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Speaker 2: Hello are you great New Zealanders? Welcome to Matt and

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Speaker 2: Tyler Full Show number two six nine for the nineteenth

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Speaker 2: of January twenty twenty six, our first podcast of the year,

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Speaker 2: Absolute Doozy. We go deep into Tyler's engagement Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: his choice of ring.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 4: There was some decisions I made controversial.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was a good chat. Actually, it was

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Speaker 2: a good chat. It was actually a fantastic chat. We

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Speaker 2: actually wanted to announce that that you'd got engaged, but

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Speaker 2: apparently it would have been announced Yeah on the radio.

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Speaker 4: One of the other hosts over summer broke the news

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Speaker 4: for me, so thank you.

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Speaker 2: A bit of a spoiler, but yeah, the details of

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Speaker 2: Chrystopher Luxeon State of the Nation comes through in the show,

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Speaker 2: so we have some in depth analysis and that's how

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Speaker 2: he thinks the country's going.

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Speaker 4: Spoiler.

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Speaker 2: He thinks it's going well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, good news, good news from as born of view.

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Speaker 4: He thanks for on the road track yep, and some

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Speaker 4: great chat actually about how much you paid for a

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Speaker 4: recent dentist visit. Yeah, was it too much?

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Speaker 2: I think so?

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Speaker 4: Should he have haggled?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? How you get a bit of deal at the dentist.

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Speaker 2: So great to be back and thanks for tuning into

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Speaker 2: the podcast.

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Speaker 4: Download, subscribe and tell everybody.

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Speaker 2: And give a taste the kiwi from Tyler and I.

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Speaker 4: All right, ain't you all right? Love you?

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the weak issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News Talk.

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Speaker 4: Said, be very good afternoon to you. Welcome into Monday show,

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Speaker 4: the first for Matt and Knife for twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 4: Feels good to be back home. Man, It's great.

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Speaker 2: We had sort of a hosking List length holiday, didn't we.

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Speaker 4: We did a Hoska day? Would you call it like that?

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Speaker 2: For so long?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: That I feel very relaxed.

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Speaker 4: Me too.

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Speaker 2: The holiday was so long and good that I last

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Speaker 2: night before I went to bed, I went, I'm looking

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Speaker 2: forward to getting back on the.

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Speaker 4: Me too, mate, me too. And as soon as I

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Speaker 4: walked into the studio and you you felt the same,

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Speaker 4: just felt like returning high. I know there's a massive cliche,

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Speaker 4: but it's true, mate, It's true.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a bit of a mess from the director show.

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Speaker 2: But apart from that, it's all good in the studio.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Now for those of us who just tuned in

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Speaker 4: at one o'clock, because we get the whole audience come

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Speaker 4: in at this point. But mentioned it at the twelve

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Speaker 4: o'clock that I had some news over the holiday bit

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Speaker 4: of a milestone, some lovely news, some lovely heart warming stuff.

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Speaker 2: And apparently this lovely, heart warming news that you wanted

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Speaker 2: to share has been spoiled.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, certainly has so. I think it was one of

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Speaker 4: the hosts over the summer break, maybe Andrew Dickens, who's

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Speaker 4: spilt the beans. But the news is that after ten

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Speaker 4: years of been with my lovely partner Mave I can

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Speaker 4: now call her at my fiance, that I finally dropped

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Speaker 4: a knee. Dropped a knee? Did you actually drop an thee?

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Speaker 4: I did actually drop anee?

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Speaker 2: Where did you drop it?

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Speaker 4: In the Bay of Islands, in a beautiful place called

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Speaker 4: Papa Bay, nice and secluded beach. Now, so the setup,

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Speaker 4: I've been planning this for a couple of weeks and

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Speaker 4: got the ring, and I'll talk about that ring in

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Speaker 4: a minute. But when I got up there, I realized

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Speaker 2: But she did. She get annoyed at you because you're

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Speaker 2: acting weird beforehand, because I've heard a lot of mates

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Speaker 2: assume you're angry at them a whole lot avon and

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Speaker 2: you can flare up just before the beautiful moment PC.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that must be a common thing, because before

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Speaker 4: you just put on something comfortable, said, what do you

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Speaker 4: No, just something comfortable. But I made it way more

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Speaker 2: I won't know how many people have pulled out of

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Speaker 2: the engagement because of the pre engagement, Barney, because you're

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Speaker 2: acting odd and they assume something's going on. They accuse

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Speaker 2: you don't need an engagement.

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Speaker 4: But so anyway, we arrived to this beech beautiful and

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Speaker 4: Just take take Pepper over there into the ocean because

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Speaker 4: she needed a weird thing. But the how was going

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Speaker 4: wrong with you? Tyler? Then I set up the little GoPro.

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Speaker 4: So I brought the GoPro out of storage and set

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Speaker 4: that up just fine, just behind the towels and got

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Speaker 4: the angle just right. But of course she turned around

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Speaker 4: sit down, and then awkwardly dropped the knee, stumbled with

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Speaker 4: the ring. The ring fell out of my hand at

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Speaker 4: But she was crying then laughing, said I don't care

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Speaker 4: about Yes, yes, she said, I don't care about the ring.

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Speaker 4: But about two minutes after that, without a word of

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Speaker 4: That'll happen, that will happen so apart from that, super smooth.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it's great. It's great that it was so lovely.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It was a nice speech. You'll go to say, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's very romantic, beautiful. Well congratulations and it only took

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Speaker 2: you ten years. But but but that's that's very very good. Congratulations,

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Speaker 2: thank you to well done and bless you. And she's

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Speaker 4: We've got a bright future. But I did mention the

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Speaker 4: ring and well, actually want to even talk about this

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Speaker 4: after three o'clock. Is that I went for what you

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Speaker 4: call a placeholder ring. So the ring that I actually

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Speaker 4: purchased was it looks good, but it's not real. You know,

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Speaker 4: it's it's not proper gold ring, the burger ring or

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Speaker 4: pretty close to it. Actually, it's it's tinted with gold,

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Speaker 4: so it's going to you know, it's going to rub

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Speaker 4: off pretty easy. And the rock is just a cubic zarconia.

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Speaker 4: So it was a couple hundred bucks. But the point

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Speaker 4: of the placeholder ring is that I'm terrible when it

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Speaker 4: comes to buying rings. I've got no idea what maybe

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Speaker 4: can go and buy something that she'll actually like. But

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Speaker 4: her aunties just said, I've never heard of that before.

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Speaker 4: Why didn't you just do what normal people do and

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Speaker 4: buy a proper ring to start off with?

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Speaker 2: She we talk about this after three o'clock. Yeah, eight

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Speaker 2: For example, she knows everything about what's stylish and what

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Speaker 2: looks good like she'll put on my partner will put

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Speaker 2: you think? And then whatever I say it doesn't matter

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Speaker 2: because I don't I'm not qualified to really comment, right,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, she's a style expert.

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Speaker 2: So it's a huge problem to spend I don't know

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but you know, let's just spend thousands

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it seems to.

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Speaker 2: Make perfect sense to have a placeholder.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, it's I would have thought.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you want to marry someone that doesn't look

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Speaker 4: Yes, very true, because if.

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Speaker 2: They say yes before they look at the ring, you

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Speaker 4: Yes, is that a real rock? Yeah? That is after

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Speaker 4: three o'clock though. And also want to talk about lab

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Speaker 4: grow and diamonds as well, because that's in the mix

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Speaker 4: right after two o'clock. This's going to be a good chat. So,

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Speaker 4: as we know, the election year is officially underweg and

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Speaker 4: Christopher Luxen's State of the Nation's speech is being treated

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Speaker 4: the economy, leadership, cabinet changes, and what voters are really feeling.

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Speaker 4: And he was on with Mike Coskin. My Coskin was

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Speaker 4: What can people expect this year?

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Speaker 11: we are and what's going on. And yeah, I think

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Speaker 11: everyone understands we inherit a hell of a mess and

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Speaker 11: we've had to fix a lot of the basics over

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Speaker 11: the last two years. But yeah, are you starting to

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Speaker 11: see all the leading indicators come right? And I think

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Speaker 11: now actually underway.

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Speaker 4: And so the question is do you want.

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Speaker 11: To just watch a recovery take place, or do you

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Speaker 11: actually want to build out and do the right reforms

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Speaker 11: and things that we need to do to set the

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Speaker 11: country up for a great future. So it's really this

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Speaker 11: notion of how do we fix the basics and we've

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Speaker 11: still got stuff we've got to continue to do daily

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Speaker 11: in that area. But also how do we think about

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Speaker 11: and actually deal with those things that we need to

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Speaker 2: So that State of the Nation speech is happening right

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Speaker 2: now as we speak. It has started, but at two

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Speaker 4: Yep, looking forward to that chat that is after two o'clock.

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Speaker 4: But right now, let's have a chat about the cost

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Speaker 4: of the dentist. Now, match, you've recently had a visit

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Speaker 2: I want to know how you deal with the cost

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Speaker 2: so I think they just need to work on that question.

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Speaker 2: The question should be is this okay? Even then you'd go,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's okay.

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Speaker 4: Are you opening up negotiations at this point?

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Speaker 2: But they get you to sign something before you go

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Speaker 4: Right? Yes? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: But how do you deal with that? Do you shop

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if you're in the dentist game, give us a call,

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Speaker 4: This is your regular dentist.

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Speaker 2: No, this is my new one.

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Speaker 4: Oh you had a new one.

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Speaker 2: This is brand new, right, brand new dentist. I've been

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Speaker 2: Right, so there's a brand new dentist.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so this is the opening salvo.

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Speaker 2: And the dentist was great guy and we had a

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Speaker 4: He was a great man, good bedside manner.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So I like him as a person. Yeah, this

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Speaker 2: I waite hundred at eighty ten eighty. How do we

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Speaker 12: Yep?

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Speaker 2: You know? Can you shop around?

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Speaker 4: Can you ask for a quote? Can you hagel?

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Speaker 2: Because can you haggle?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Is a dentist because you go to a dentist and

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Speaker 2: they're the expert, so you ask them for advice and

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Speaker 2: their advice is two thousand, eight hundred and forty dollars.

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Speaker 2: Thanks mate?

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Speaker 4: Was there one part of you when she said are

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Speaker 4: you happy with this? And you look at so it's

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, why is it four hundred and fifteen dollars

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Speaker 2: and I'm not bigg ripped off, it's just a bit

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number

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Speaker 4: to call? Nine two ninety two is the text. It's

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Speaker 4: going to be a great chat. Love to hear your thoughts.

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Speaker 4: How much you pain at the dentist and if you

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Speaker 2: Ben'say's, Matt, you've been had that's too much. It should

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Speaker 2: be more like two hundred to two. Okay, that's what

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Speaker 4: Yeah, back at the moment, is eighteen pass one.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 4: They'd be very good afternoons you twenty pass ones. We're

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Speaker 4: talking about the price of going to the dentist. Recently,

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Speaker 2: How do you know if you're paying the right amount

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Speaker 2: dentists trained hard, they do big student loans, yep, they're businesses,

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Speaker 2: They've got overheads, yep. I want dentists to be rich, yes,

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Speaker 2: I want them to have boats.

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Speaker 4: And many of them do. I don't have a problem

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Speaker 2: I just want to know that if on paying the

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Speaker 2: spent seven K fixing my teeth Within two years, everything

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Speaker 2: all pulled out and went for false teeth, costing four

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Speaker 2: point five k including extraction. I've never been happy or healthier.

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Speaker 2: More people should look at this option. I'm not good

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Speaker 2: for you, Steve. I'm not ready for false teeth just yet.

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Speaker 4: But you're a bit young for that, mate.

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Speaker 2: But good for you, Steve.

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Speaker 4: Follow up question here. But I don't know if there's

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Speaker 4: Doesn't I've got I've got private health insurance.

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Speaker 2: Mine doesn't.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so why is that? I don't know because I

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Speaker 2: It is interesting, isn't it, Because your mouth is like

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Speaker 4: Yeah. The only bones in your body that you aren't covered.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Bi, Matt and Tyler. Congratulations Tyler, great news.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: A dentist broke tooth, needed an implant. Fifteen hundred in

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Speaker 2: so far and nothing significant has been done. Extraction today

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Speaker 2: three point fifty. I think implants itself. Maybe about one

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Speaker 4: Yeah, good work, though persistence pays off Ray.

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Speaker 2: He's covering both topics there.

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Speaker 4: He certainly is. Yeah, five times, well done.

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Speaker 4: Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

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Speaker 13: My take on it's just your dental health is really

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Speaker 13: and I think that that's something that's an investment in

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Speaker 13: health plan, so yeah, and if you actually work it

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Speaker 2: Do you so?

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Speaker 2: And then in that case, you don't care at all

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Speaker 13: May no, because it's still limited to what you can claim.

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Speaker 13: But I can claim up to a certain amount and

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Speaker 13: I can't recall what that amount is. But it's also

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Speaker 13: like how much what price do you put on your health?

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Speaker 13: Not so much, we are in tear, but like if

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Speaker 13: I still think that like, if you go regularly, then

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll get on you, Mary, And what's regularly because

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Speaker 4: I don't go every year. I know people would say

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Speaker 2: Well, that's kind of what I was thinking. With my

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Speaker 2: the new science and fillings with dentists is not to

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Speaker 2: In the old days, and then the filling would stay

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Speaker 2: But now they want to, you know, protect the integrity

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Speaker 4: So not even a ballpark. You can get at least

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Speaker 4: a couple of years out of them, surely, or you

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Speaker 4: just don't know. Okay, Oh one hundred and eight Am

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Speaker 4: I right? Am I right? Dentists, yeah, oh one hundred

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Speaker 4: teach number is twenty five past one.

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Speaker 16: the Empires? Do you think we're heading back to the

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Speaker 16: age of the Empires?

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Speaker 4: There's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 11: The system that we've had for the last seventy years

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Speaker 11: is rupturing big time. And I think that's a really

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Speaker 11: big call to action for New Zealand and our relative

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Speaker 11: position because all one hundred ninety five countries are dealing

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Speaker 11: with the challenges that are out there in the world

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Speaker 11: today is actually very strong. I know a lot of

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Speaker 11: listeners will be feeling anxious about what's going on in

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Speaker 11: the world, but less control what we can control. And

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Speaker 11: we have a fantastic future and we've got a lot

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Speaker 11: of potential that's got to get realized in this country.

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Speaker 11: And that's the exciting work ahead of us.

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Speaker 2: Back tomorrow at six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast.

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Speaker 1: With Vita Retirement Communities on News Tom's.

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Speaker 4: Dead b twenty eight pass one. We're talking about the

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Speaker 4: price of dental work. One hundred and eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 4: is number to call.

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Speaker 2: Graham, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 15: You are a dentist, Yes I am, Yes, mate, thank

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Speaker 15: you for having me on the show. And matt yep so.

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Speaker 2: So first question is four hundred and fifteen dollars the

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Speaker 2: a the standard amount that you charge for an adhesive

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Speaker 2: restoration posterior tooth dash direct which imagine as a filling.

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Speaker 15: Really putting me on the spot. There's quite a bit

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Speaker 15: of variation, yeah, about a treatment. I think I sent

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Speaker 15: you that fee survey which on reflections. There's a lot

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Speaker 15: of information in it, but it all depends on how

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Speaker 15: many surfaces, how large it is, you know, all that

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Speaker 15: sort of thing. So it wouldn't be an uncommon price

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Speaker 15: and across Auckland, there's probably a bit of variation you

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Speaker 15: and quite cheap prices across Auckland. But I think I

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Speaker 15: heard Tyler suggesting an idea that if you were getting

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Speaker 15: a few feelings maybe some you might get a discount

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Speaker 15: on that basis. And so, yeah, it would depend a

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Speaker 15: little bit on those sorts of scenarios.

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Speaker 2: So you're open to hackling Graham, open to.

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Speaker 15: What would I say, getting the work done and making

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Speaker 15: people's mouths better and healthier. And and you're mindful of

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Speaker 15: of people's financial spending mere dollar for what they're getting.

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Speaker 15: And also at the same time, as a dentist, you're

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Speaker 15: mindful of health concerns, you know, just there. If you

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Speaker 15: do something now, maybe they don't need a root canal

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Speaker 15: later on.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, well I think that's one of the things

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Speaker 2: that always impresses me about dentists, because your work as

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Speaker 2: people having bad teeth, but dentists are always trying to

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Speaker 2: make you a better teeth and they you know, you

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Speaker 2: could think a unscrupulous dentist would not be telling you

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Speaker 2: to brush your teeth, not telling into floss, not telling

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Speaker 2: to look after your teeth, so they make more money

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Speaker 2: down the track. But you never come across the dentist

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Speaker 2: it behaves like that. Grant.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, sorry, I'm double I'm double trying to get a

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Speaker 15: few things done here, trying to get my lunch cocked

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Speaker 15: at the same time commanding a conversation with you guys.

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Speaker 15: So wait, sorry, sorry, Matt, I love that bit.

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Speaker 2: For a moment, I was just commending dentists for always

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Speaker 2: promoting dental hygiene and health when really they can make

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Speaker 2: more money out of bad teeth than they can good teeth.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, like, that's correct. And if you look across the Auckland,

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Speaker 15: I think you'll find a there's quite a as we know,

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Speaker 15: it's quite a spectrum of social and economic means across Auckland,

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Speaker 15: and in general, unfortunately two to k you find that

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Speaker 15: there's people have got less means for probably the decay

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Speaker 15: rates go up and all that. So, so you know,

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Speaker 15: if a dentist is in a very good bit of town,

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Speaker 15: most people buy a large Brosotis and even flass. But

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Speaker 15: in some bits of the of the city it's not

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Speaker 15: quite as good as that, unfortunately, And it not only

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Speaker 15: relates to dentistry, but it relates to other health messages

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Speaker 15: around chronic disease.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, so what you're saying is, you know, someone

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Speaker 2: like me who lives probably in an affluent part of

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Speaker 2: the country of the city, should nip over to you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, get out.

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Speaker 4: Get out to another area where drive.

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Speaker 2: Forty five minutes and then try and get my tea done.

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Speaker 15: There and then you'll find the difficulties. Dentists in those

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Speaker 15: areas are quite busy, so funny.

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Speaker 2: Time and all that, And there's not.

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Speaker 15: To take away any device you've got from your dentists.

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Speaker 15: Where you are, you though, so so very good and competent,

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Speaker 15: and by and large I know if you look at

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Speaker 15: a social media pace on dentists, it doesn't make the

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Speaker 15: most pleasant reading sometimes, but as a dentist, and no

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Speaker 15: doubt you'll be getting on your next little meter there

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Speaker 15: some feedback. But as a dentist, most dentists I know

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Speaker 15: are working pretty hard to do the right thing by

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Speaker 15: their clients and give them the right advice.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, hey, when when you say that, that say

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Speaker 2: you know, there's different types of fillings which are written

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Speaker 2: here is adhesive restoration posterior tooth, But how come all

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Speaker 2: of mine are charged at four fifteen if they're different teeth?

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Speaker 2: Surely that they don't have the same same hole in

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Speaker 2: each one.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, like yeah, like that in this day and age

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Speaker 15: of consent, you know, that's a that's a word while

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Speaker 15: discussion with your dentist and to just get them to

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Speaker 15: explain that it's but what in general, you know there

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Speaker 15: can be to be honest, if you do a small

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Speaker 15: filling or a bigger filling sometimes for the dentist is

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Speaker 15: a certain time allocated and doesn't really matter. Yeah, and

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Speaker 15: they've still got their overhead operations.

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Speaker 2: Yeah all that. Yeah, we want we want people to

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Speaker 2: make money because they've they've started a business and they've

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Speaker 2: trained to be a dentist. And I'm not I'm not

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Speaker 2: questioning the ability to make money. I think dentists are

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Speaker 2: doing an incredibly important job and you want good dentists.

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Speaker 2: And to get good dentists, they have to make the

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Speaker 2: money to put in the effect, to take their risk

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Speaker 2: to be a dentist. Hey, one question for you, Graham,

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Speaker 2: how much is so so when you're doing a filling,

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Speaker 2: a little a little box comes out, plastic box and

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Speaker 2: it has whatever that adhesive is that they put into

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Speaker 2: a filling. It's no longer anything poisonous. I believe. But

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Speaker 2: that stuff is that stuff just really expensive to buy.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's not it's not a PVA.

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Speaker 15: You'll you'll find that in general, the industry is a

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Speaker 15: service industry. So, and if you look at all service industries,

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Speaker 15: even as you went to the DHD and looked at

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Speaker 15: their operation, you'd find that probably I don't know, seventy

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Speaker 15: to eighty percent of their overhead as an staff, whether

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Speaker 15: you're paying the dentists or the assistance or the receptionist

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Speaker 15: or other support people. You're in general with dentistry, the

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Speaker 15: material costs about ten percent, right, and then probably you

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Speaker 15: know there there are variations on certain larger procedures, like

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Speaker 15: I heard you talking about implants. You know some of

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Speaker 15: those there's some higher costs involved. Yeah, so it really

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Speaker 15: does very a little bit. But in general it's about

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Speaker 15: ten percent of the cost. And over the years I've

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Speaker 15: seen financial accounts from other service industries and always been

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Speaker 15: interested in those similarities.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much, Graham, just just because you

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Speaker 2: are a dentist. What are you having lunch today?

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Speaker 15: It will be very quick, It'll be Malaysian, uh, Malaysian

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Speaker 15: fried rice?

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Speaker 4: Nice?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Do you flo us after that?

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Speaker 10: Ye?

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Speaker 2: Brush before, do you brush before or after you eat after?

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Speaker 15: Keep away from the sugar every day. I used for

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Speaker 15: toothpaste and brush regularly. And and yeah sweet drinks that

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Speaker 15: would be my message and energy drinks just every day.

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Speaker 2: Advising you've got any space in your client list.

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Speaker 15: Graham, there's always space.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'll send.

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Speaker 4: It's going to be in touch.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Graham. Enjoy your lunch.

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Speaker 4: What a great man. One hundred and eighty and eighty

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Speaker 4: is the number to call. Love to hear from you

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Speaker 4: how much you spent or it cost you your latest

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Speaker 4: visit to the dentist. And if you are in the

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Speaker 4: dental trade as well, like Graham, love to hear from

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Speaker 4: you nine to ninety twos and text number twenty four

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Speaker 4: to two.

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Speaker 17: US Talk said be headlines with blue bubble taxis it's

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Speaker 17: no trouble with a blue bubble. The Prime Minister's declared

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Speaker 17: growth is here. As he kicks off election Yere with

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Speaker 17: a set piece speech, Chris Luckson says he's more confident

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Speaker 17: than ever the recoveries arrived this year will be brighter

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Speaker 17: than the past few. The ctu's mood of the workforce

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Speaker 17: server of more than thirty five hundred People has found

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Speaker 17: workers are overwhelmingly unsatisfied with the current government. About two

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Speaker 17: thirds reported worsening workloads, just over half felt job security

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Speaker 17: had deteriorate. It corrections, says are more than doubling in

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Speaker 17: allegations of sexual assaults by prison officers from two years earlier,

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Speaker 17: could be down to reporting changes letting inmates directly report issues.

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Speaker 17: A call for education on protecting marine life as the

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Speaker 17: Oceans and Fisheries Minister considers a protective two year collection

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Speaker 17: ban at Auckland's fung A pado A peninsula. It's faired

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Speaker 17: indiscriminate harvesting from rock pools is stripping them of life.

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Speaker 17: Dunedin's hospital czars twenty five hundred per day exceeds public

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Speaker 17: sector scale. You could read more at Inzen Herald Premium.

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Speaker 17: Backmar to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Raylene. We're talking about the price

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Speaker 4: of going to a dentist and what you should be

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Speaker 4: paying for fillings. After you went to the dentist for

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Speaker 4: the first time in a couple of years and.

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Speaker 2: Two thousand, eight hundred and forty dollars for six fillings. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the question is why did you need six fillings. Brushing

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Speaker 2: and listen is a lot cheaper than that. You mup it.

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Speaker 2: I brush twice a day religiously. I'm a I am,

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Speaker 2: I am a brush. I brush hart brush connoisseur. I

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Speaker 2: put potentially brush too heart. Have you get electric? I've

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Speaker 2: got electric?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Nice?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because my denda said to me, you know, just

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Speaker 2: do one tooth and me move on. I potentially might

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Speaker 2: have brushed my way into filling.

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Speaker 4: You can't do that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, But do you need listenering? Isn't it just

636
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Speaker 2: for your breath? What does that do? I floss?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, every day.

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Speaker 2: I got those little picky flosses.

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Speaker 4: Those are good, Those are real good.

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Speaker 2: I enjoy doing those.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I look, I could. I'm I think that's

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Speaker 2: an unfair to say that these fillings that I've may

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Speaker 2: or may not have needed that cost two hundred and

646
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Speaker 2: forty dollars were as a result of poor or oral hygiene.

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Speaker 2: IM your brush mates, Yeah, I'm a psycho when it

648
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Speaker 2: comes to oral hyder.

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Speaker 4: Three minutes at a pop. What three minutes per per

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Speaker 4: per Yeah no, not per tooth? No, hell no, You'll

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Speaker 4: be there all day just as long as it takes

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Speaker 4: time out though, the electric ones. As soon as they

653
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Speaker 4: year three minutes are up. It gives you a wee.

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Speaker 2: Beep mine, doesn't. I just do all of the teeth,

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Speaker 2: step it up, and then floss them and do them again.

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Speaker 4: Oh e one hundred and eighty ten eighty the numbered

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Speaker 4: call Sharon, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 8: Oh I'm good, afternoon, you too, Happy New year grad

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Speaker 8: you're back, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Glad to have you on the on the

661
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Speaker 2: line on O hundred and eighty ten eighty. Great to

662
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Speaker 2: talk to you.

663
00:30:10,573 --> 00:30:13,893
Speaker 8: Are you most kind? I've been to the dentist on

664
00:30:13,973 --> 00:30:18,173
Speaker 8: the sixth of this month for a tooth extraction because

665
00:30:18,213 --> 00:30:21,133
Speaker 8: it was giving you being a pain in there, and

666
00:30:21,213 --> 00:30:24,813
Speaker 8: so that was three hundred and eighty nine dollars. And

667
00:30:24,893 --> 00:30:26,293
Speaker 8: I did have a bit of a problem with it

668
00:30:26,333 --> 00:30:28,013
Speaker 8: because I think it might have been a bit infective.

669
00:30:28,053 --> 00:30:29,733
Speaker 8: So I had to go back about ten days later

670
00:30:29,773 --> 00:30:31,973
Speaker 8: because I couldn't stand the pain longer. So I had

671
00:30:31,973 --> 00:30:35,373
Speaker 8: another appointment and that was free, so I didn't think

672
00:30:35,373 --> 00:30:37,573
Speaker 8: that was too bad. So that's what I had done.

673
00:30:38,253 --> 00:30:41,253
Speaker 4: Well, that's pretty good, yeah, for an extraction three hundred

674
00:30:41,293 --> 00:30:41,893
Speaker 4: and what did you say?

675
00:30:41,893 --> 00:30:45,133
Speaker 8: It was three hundred and eighty nine dollars.

676
00:30:44,733 --> 00:30:47,533
Speaker 2: It seems I considering I'm paying four to fifteen for

677
00:30:47,653 --> 00:30:51,333
Speaker 2: just a filling. Yeah, wow of a deal. Whereabouts to you, Sharon?

678
00:30:51,453 --> 00:30:53,253
Speaker 2: Just geographically generally speaking?

679
00:30:53,853 --> 00:30:54,773
Speaker 14: Oh, this was.

680
00:30:54,653 --> 00:30:56,213
Speaker 8: On the High Biscus Coast.

681
00:30:55,933 --> 00:30:59,733
Speaker 2: That I went to right in nineteen sixties or was

682
00:30:59,733 --> 00:31:00,293
Speaker 2: it recently?

683
00:31:03,133 --> 00:31:05,413
Speaker 8: No, I don't said it was on the sixth and

684
00:31:05,533 --> 00:31:06,413
Speaker 8: January of this year.

685
00:31:06,573 --> 00:31:10,693
Speaker 4: Okay, well, see you stay with that dentist. Yeah, you

686
00:31:10,733 --> 00:31:13,213
Speaker 4: wouldn't even haggle. They said that was the price any

687
00:31:13,293 --> 00:31:13,653
Speaker 4: very much.

688
00:31:13,693 --> 00:31:14,733
Speaker 2: Are you happy with the work?

689
00:31:15,813 --> 00:31:18,653
Speaker 8: Oh definitely, no, very very happy. I actually did go

690
00:31:18,813 --> 00:31:22,893
Speaker 8: beforehand to a different dentist and didn't well quite right

691
00:31:22,933 --> 00:31:25,013
Speaker 8: with it. So I got a second opinion, you know,

692
00:31:25,133 --> 00:31:27,653
Speaker 8: so to speak, and that's why I went as a

693
00:31:27,693 --> 00:31:31,213
Speaker 8: second person, and I just felt a lot happier. But yeah,

694
00:31:31,293 --> 00:31:33,653
Speaker 8: I just I thought I was the surprised. I thought

695
00:31:33,653 --> 00:31:34,453
Speaker 8: it was quite a good story.

696
00:31:34,653 --> 00:31:36,533
Speaker 2: But when you have to get a second opinion, you're

697
00:31:36,533 --> 00:31:37,973
Speaker 2: going to have to pay again, aren't you. Because you

698
00:31:37,973 --> 00:31:39,293
Speaker 2: go the dentists, you pay for the dentist.

699
00:31:39,733 --> 00:31:43,293
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, but I'm unfortunately I have medical insurance that

700
00:31:43,333 --> 00:31:44,453
Speaker 8: covers people work, so.

701
00:31:44,813 --> 00:31:48,493
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, would would you ever haggle with a dentist chair.

702
00:31:50,653 --> 00:31:52,813
Speaker 8: No, I kind of feel a bit uncomfortable doing that.

703
00:31:53,053 --> 00:31:56,133
Speaker 8: He's still a professional. I don't think that's really necessary,

704
00:31:56,173 --> 00:31:57,013
Speaker 8: but you know, if you want to.

705
00:31:57,093 --> 00:31:57,493
Speaker 9: Go for it.

706
00:31:57,693 --> 00:31:59,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Hey, thank you so much for you

707
00:31:59,293 --> 00:32:01,173
Speaker 2: call Sharon, and happy New Year. Thanks for calling.

708
00:32:01,253 --> 00:32:03,493
Speaker 4: Yeah. Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number?

709
00:32:03,573 --> 00:32:07,413
Speaker 4: Nine two nine to the text? Plenty of texts coming through,

710
00:32:07,573 --> 00:32:09,333
Speaker 4: but we better take a break because we've got a

711
00:32:09,333 --> 00:32:11,373
Speaker 4: lot of people who want to have a chat. And

712
00:32:11,413 --> 00:32:13,453
Speaker 4: if that's you, I eight one hundred eighty ten eighty

713
00:32:13,533 --> 00:32:16,413
Speaker 4: is the number to call. It is sixteen to two.

714
00:32:17,333 --> 00:32:20,773
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

715
00:32:21,093 --> 00:32:25,173
Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons, excused talks.

716
00:32:25,173 --> 00:32:28,533
Speaker 4: They'd be afternoon to you thirteen to two. And we're

717
00:32:28,533 --> 00:32:30,853
Speaker 4: talking about how much you would expect to pay for

718
00:32:30,893 --> 00:32:33,053
Speaker 4: a dentist, physic or to get some dental work. I

719
00:32:33,253 --> 00:32:34,733
Speaker 4: one hundred eighty ten eighty is at number?

720
00:32:35,053 --> 00:32:39,373
Speaker 2: Is this true? Someone says you can get the required

721
00:32:39,453 --> 00:32:43,293
Speaker 2: items for fillings on TMU for twenty nine ninety five

722
00:32:44,013 --> 00:32:45,493
Speaker 2: for a start. I don't know if Tim who does

723
00:32:45,533 --> 00:32:48,653
Speaker 2: twenty nine ninety five is prisis. But also even if

724
00:32:48,653 --> 00:32:51,413
Speaker 2: you get the stuff to do the dental work from Timu,

725
00:32:52,453 --> 00:32:53,693
Speaker 2: what do you do You get your mate to do it?

726
00:32:53,733 --> 00:32:56,213
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got to really back yourself to try and

727
00:32:56,253 --> 00:32:57,453
Speaker 4: do your own filling.

728
00:32:57,333 --> 00:32:59,693
Speaker 2: Which depends what it is. Yeah, I don't want to

729
00:32:59,693 --> 00:33:02,293
Speaker 2: do my remove my wisdom teeth with what I get

730
00:33:02,293 --> 00:33:07,773
Speaker 2: off Timu. Get my mate Spooze to do it. Steve,

731
00:33:08,413 --> 00:33:10,173
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. You've had a recent experience with

732
00:33:10,213 --> 00:33:10,773
Speaker 2: the root canal.

733
00:33:11,693 --> 00:33:14,533
Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, yeah, good topic, guys. Yeah, just going back

734
00:33:14,573 --> 00:33:16,173
Speaker 18: a bit, but I thought I'd put my two bobs

735
00:33:16,173 --> 00:33:19,533
Speaker 18: with us and I assently advise Paple when they go

736
00:33:19,613 --> 00:33:22,253
Speaker 18: to the root canal. Is even if they've had a

737
00:33:22,373 --> 00:33:24,853
Speaker 18: particular dentist for years, it's just rung around. Because I

738
00:33:24,933 --> 00:33:27,213
Speaker 18: had one of the guys from work, he went to

739
00:33:27,293 --> 00:33:29,693
Speaker 18: a dentist, had a root canal done that was eighteen

740
00:33:29,733 --> 00:33:32,613
Speaker 18: hundred bucks and he just about that he fell on

741
00:33:32,613 --> 00:33:35,213
Speaker 18: the floor. After that and a few weeks they had

742
00:33:35,213 --> 00:33:37,013
Speaker 18: to have another one that was a similar tooth on

743
00:33:37,053 --> 00:33:39,573
Speaker 18: the other side. So we're not talking about different teeth,

744
00:33:39,653 --> 00:33:42,253
Speaker 18: So it's the same sort of milder teeth. And it

745
00:33:42,373 --> 00:33:44,133
Speaker 18: was eight hundred dollars. And then on top of that,

746
00:33:44,293 --> 00:33:47,573
Speaker 18: what people don't realize is they then recommend that you

747
00:33:47,573 --> 00:33:50,133
Speaker 18: get a crown on top, which is another bloody few grand.

748
00:33:50,213 --> 00:33:53,613
Speaker 18: But I personally over the years, I've got dentists now,

749
00:33:53,653 --> 00:33:56,493
Speaker 18: but you know, I spent more time in dentist seats

750
00:33:56,533 --> 00:34:00,613
Speaker 18: and but he had to know about and ranging from Sydney,

751
00:34:00,693 --> 00:34:03,933
Speaker 18: christ Church, NUSA, Pappy, New Uni and Vericago all the rest.

752
00:34:03,933 --> 00:34:06,413
Speaker 18: And I've been to period onto so all the rest

753
00:34:06,453 --> 00:34:09,493
Speaker 18: and put a lot of spend a lot of money

754
00:34:09,613 --> 00:34:11,812
Speaker 18: and still had to end up put you getting them out.

755
00:34:11,853 --> 00:34:14,053
Speaker 18: But as far as root canals, I've had about five

756
00:34:14,133 --> 00:34:16,453
Speaker 18: over the years, and they it depends on the dentist

757
00:34:16,533 --> 00:34:18,573
Speaker 18: to go to and all the rest. And the thing

758
00:34:18,613 --> 00:34:21,253
Speaker 18: that used to get me is that for root canals,

759
00:34:21,453 --> 00:34:23,933
Speaker 18: they're not really doing much that they're drolling out.

760
00:34:23,933 --> 00:34:24,373
Speaker 5: You're filling.

761
00:34:24,373 --> 00:34:26,652
Speaker 18: If you've got a filling the out then they get

762
00:34:26,693 --> 00:34:28,453
Speaker 18: like a little pipe thing the thing thing out your

763
00:34:28,533 --> 00:34:32,013
Speaker 18: root canals. Put a plug in it, but andty biotic plug.

764
00:34:32,053 --> 00:34:35,053
Speaker 18: It put a bit of a filling in the end.

765
00:34:35,053 --> 00:34:37,053
Speaker 18: You have to go back once, you know, like a

766
00:34:37,093 --> 00:34:38,773
Speaker 18: week later and proper filling in there. And then I

767
00:34:38,773 --> 00:34:41,533
Speaker 18: always say I recommend a crown, which I never did,

768
00:34:41,613 --> 00:34:44,933
Speaker 18: and I had one that I had endodontis, and they

769
00:34:44,973 --> 00:34:46,453
Speaker 18: are like the end of the world. So they are

770
00:34:46,493 --> 00:34:49,133
Speaker 18: the guys who are the experts on root canals. And

771
00:34:49,173 --> 00:34:51,133
Speaker 18: that was one of my last teeth that lasted for

772
00:34:51,133 --> 00:34:56,253
Speaker 18: about ten years with endodontis. You know, it's just one

773
00:34:56,253 --> 00:34:57,812
Speaker 18: of those things you really need to read about.

774
00:34:57,853 --> 00:35:01,693
Speaker 2: You're getting You're getting the anesthetic on that though, on

775
00:35:01,733 --> 00:35:03,573
Speaker 2: that root canal, you can't just get that yanked out

776
00:35:04,493 --> 00:35:04,973
Speaker 2: raw dog.

777
00:35:06,813 --> 00:35:09,853
Speaker 18: No, No, it's actually one yeah, yeah, and I've had

778
00:35:09,893 --> 00:35:12,573
Speaker 18: an anesthetic on it, yeah, for sure. But then they

779
00:35:12,693 --> 00:35:15,533
Speaker 18: just sticking like a pipe cleaner, just digging out your canal,

780
00:35:15,693 --> 00:35:19,093
Speaker 18: just like anyone does welding. You get piped like a

781
00:35:19,093 --> 00:35:21,692
Speaker 18: welding tip cleaners, and they just shoving them in there.

782
00:35:21,733 --> 00:35:23,613
Speaker 18: Then when they think they've done, they leave them and

783
00:35:23,613 --> 00:35:25,093
Speaker 18: they're taking the X ray to make sure it's at

784
00:35:25,133 --> 00:35:27,292
Speaker 18: the bottom of the tooth, put them out and they usually

785
00:35:27,293 --> 00:35:29,733
Speaker 18: put an anti biotic in there, plug it with like

786
00:35:29,733 --> 00:35:30,213
Speaker 18: a rubber.

787
00:35:31,533 --> 00:35:33,853
Speaker 2: Are you on the chompers now, did you say, Steve,

788
00:35:33,933 --> 00:35:35,493
Speaker 2: so you've got I am?

789
00:35:35,613 --> 00:35:36,053
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know.

790
00:35:36,213 --> 00:35:38,133
Speaker 18: I mean I spent thousands over the years looking out

791
00:35:38,173 --> 00:35:40,813
Speaker 18: from the teeth. In the end I had I had

792
00:35:40,813 --> 00:35:42,773
Speaker 18: a tootha broke, so I had a place in there

793
00:35:42,773 --> 00:35:46,093
Speaker 18: and then the teeth that they connected to or wire

794
00:35:46,453 --> 00:35:50,453
Speaker 18: this is a wire plate and those teeth collapse. So

795
00:35:50,853 --> 00:35:52,333
Speaker 18: in the end I had to get them all pulled out,

796
00:35:52,373 --> 00:35:55,453
Speaker 18: the top ones. The best thing I've ever done, I think.

797
00:35:55,493 --> 00:35:59,053
Speaker 18: I mean, honestly, I was gutted when I got them out.

798
00:35:59,053 --> 00:36:01,053
Speaker 18: When you're first looking at your teeth sitting in your hand,

799
00:36:03,253 --> 00:36:07,933
Speaker 18: it's quite depressed, you know, apart from a re line

800
00:36:07,973 --> 00:36:10,853
Speaker 18: every so many years. You know, it's just it's eating.

801
00:36:11,053 --> 00:36:14,333
Speaker 2: Is eating with them? With the is it is?

802
00:36:14,373 --> 00:36:14,693
Speaker 9: It?

803
00:36:14,773 --> 00:36:18,853
Speaker 2: Is there any problems with that they're eating eating.

804
00:36:19,133 --> 00:36:22,093
Speaker 18: Like some people it doesn't. But with me, for example,

805
00:36:22,693 --> 00:36:24,652
Speaker 18: eating apples or something. They're going to cut the apple

806
00:36:24,733 --> 00:36:26,693
Speaker 18: up and then you know, because if I try to

807
00:36:26,733 --> 00:36:29,133
Speaker 18: chomp them, it was the front it'll pivot them. And

808
00:36:29,173 --> 00:36:32,293
Speaker 18: that that's the issue with bottom benches because if I

809
00:36:32,293 --> 00:36:33,973
Speaker 18: could have foided, I'd get a couple of pins put

810
00:36:34,013 --> 00:36:36,493
Speaker 18: in there, so you clips on there so you're not

811
00:36:36,573 --> 00:36:38,133
Speaker 18: using a dental paste?

812
00:36:38,213 --> 00:36:38,333
Speaker 10: Is it?

813
00:36:38,373 --> 00:36:39,533
Speaker 18: Where to help hold them in?

814
00:36:39,533 --> 00:36:39,692
Speaker 7: There.

815
00:36:40,773 --> 00:36:43,333
Speaker 18: Yeah, but people definitely need to ring around because the

816
00:36:43,373 --> 00:36:47,373
Speaker 18: prices can vary ridiculously, you know, and that's just for

817
00:36:47,453 --> 00:36:49,933
Speaker 18: a basic route canal, and then they recommend you to

818
00:36:49,973 --> 00:36:52,693
Speaker 18: be the next amount to get a crown put on

819
00:36:52,693 --> 00:36:55,213
Speaker 18: top of it, which can you know, run to more thousands.

820
00:36:55,213 --> 00:36:56,933
Speaker 18: So yeah, just you know.

821
00:36:57,293 --> 00:37:02,453
Speaker 4: Ring around. You've had a lot of experience, that's for sure.

822
00:37:02,533 --> 00:37:06,573
Speaker 2: So it's as denture technology like everything else, I imagine,

823
00:37:06,653 --> 00:37:11,653
Speaker 2: has increased from the old jokes with the and the

824
00:37:11,693 --> 00:37:12,853
Speaker 2: glass beside the bed.

825
00:37:12,813 --> 00:37:14,453
Speaker 4: The old wooden teeth. Yeah, I think they'll come a

826
00:37:14,493 --> 00:37:18,093
Speaker 4: long way. I mean it sounds like anymore, oh one

827
00:37:18,493 --> 00:37:21,093
Speaker 4: eighty ten eighties. Another to cool it is eight minutes

828
00:37:21,133 --> 00:37:21,653
Speaker 4: to two.

829
00:37:22,653 --> 00:37:26,933
Speaker 1: Madeath Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight hundred eighty eight.

830
00:37:27,133 --> 00:37:30,253
Speaker 1: It's Mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons.

831
00:37:29,733 --> 00:37:34,893
Speaker 4: NEWSTALGSB, News DOGSB six to two. Campbell. You're just back

832
00:37:34,933 --> 00:37:35,493
Speaker 4: from India?

833
00:37:36,213 --> 00:37:40,893
Speaker 19: Yeah, literally back a couple of weeks ago. My situation

834
00:37:41,213 --> 00:37:45,013
Speaker 19: was had a couple of teeth removed as you do,

835
00:37:45,333 --> 00:37:49,373
Speaker 19: rather than get them fixed. And you know I had

836
00:37:49,373 --> 00:37:54,212
Speaker 19: the situation where I have three missing teeth, so went

837
00:37:54,253 --> 00:38:00,573
Speaker 19: to my dentist in Wellington and was quoted eleven thousand

838
00:38:00,573 --> 00:38:10,213
Speaker 19: and nine hundred for three bridges and or full fillings,

839
00:38:10,253 --> 00:38:14,293
Speaker 19: filling in areas where the front were allegedly I've over

840
00:38:14,373 --> 00:38:16,613
Speaker 19: brushed and the worn away, so a little bit of

841
00:38:16,653 --> 00:38:20,613
Speaker 19: aesthetic work but not veneers, but most of that on

842
00:38:20,693 --> 00:38:25,533
Speaker 19: the bridges. And as I've walked out, I said to them, hey,

843
00:38:25,573 --> 00:38:28,652
Speaker 19: well you know that's great. I might actually go and

844
00:38:28,693 --> 00:38:32,053
Speaker 19: get it done in India. And they laughed and I laughed,

845
00:38:32,213 --> 00:38:36,133
Speaker 19: and I thought about it and did it. Yeah, perhaps

846
00:38:36,213 --> 00:38:39,253
Speaker 19: too much research, but you know it's away is a

847
00:38:40,013 --> 00:38:44,133
Speaker 19: good thing when you're doing something you know fairly fairly serious.

848
00:38:44,173 --> 00:38:47,413
Speaker 19: So yeah, I loved India. I was over there thirty

849
00:38:47,493 --> 00:38:50,333
Speaker 19: years ago and I thought, shit, I can go at

850
00:38:50,413 --> 00:38:56,813
Speaker 19: Christmas and yeah, I got not composites. I got top

851
00:38:56,853 --> 00:39:02,652
Speaker 19: of the line materials, so better materials, three bridges, all

852
00:39:02,653 --> 00:39:06,813
Speaker 19: of my old fillings taken out and replaced with white.

853
00:39:06,933 --> 00:39:10,293
Speaker 19: And I did it for two eight New Zealand.

854
00:39:10,493 --> 00:39:13,133
Speaker 2: Wow that is a saving, So to eight New Zealand,

855
00:39:13,133 --> 00:39:14,893
Speaker 2: that's what I paid for six fillings.

856
00:39:15,253 --> 00:39:17,013
Speaker 4: Go to India. Go to India.

857
00:39:17,053 --> 00:39:19,293
Speaker 2: Thank you for your call, Campbell. But we've come to

858
00:39:19,293 --> 00:39:20,772
Speaker 2: the end of the house, we've got to cut you off.

859
00:39:20,893 --> 00:39:22,692
Speaker 2: So the answer to my question, did I pay too

860
00:39:22,773 --> 00:39:25,893
Speaker 2: much for my fillings? Eight hundred and forty? Maybe? Maybe not.

861
00:39:26,333 --> 00:39:28,933
Speaker 2: One hack is getting your teeth done in lower economic areas,

862
00:39:29,333 --> 00:39:31,533
Speaker 2: but that's morally dubious and hard to get an appointment, right.

863
00:39:31,813 --> 00:39:33,853
Speaker 2: But the good news is Graham rang In and he

864
00:39:33,893 --> 00:39:35,413
Speaker 2: sounds like a great gentist, so I'm going to go

865
00:39:35,453 --> 00:39:37,373
Speaker 2: to him from now on. But of course, the key

866
00:39:37,453 --> 00:39:39,573
Speaker 2: is brushing your teeth at least twice a day, and

867
00:39:39,573 --> 00:39:41,053
Speaker 2: anyone can do that. I just looked up how much

868
00:39:41,133 --> 00:39:43,813
Speaker 2: toothbrush is supermarket. You get two for a dollar fifty.

869
00:39:43,813 --> 00:39:44,493
Speaker 4: Oh, that's a good deal.

870
00:39:44,533 --> 00:39:47,133
Speaker 2: They'll last you a year. Heck, and then toothpaste is

871
00:39:47,333 --> 00:39:50,813
Speaker 2: cheap as well. Yeah, three dollars fifteen, that'll last year weeks. Yeah,

872
00:39:50,853 --> 00:39:51,853
Speaker 2: anyone can brush.

873
00:39:51,573 --> 00:39:54,573
Speaker 4: Your teeth exactly. We've all got that time, right, great discussion,

874
00:39:54,613 --> 00:39:56,813
Speaker 4: Thank you very much everyone who called in texts Coming

875
00:39:56,893 --> 00:40:00,693
Speaker 4: up after two Clark Christopher Luxe's just delivered as State

876
00:40:00,813 --> 00:40:03,013
Speaker 4: of the Nation speech, So we want to have a

877
00:40:03,093 --> 00:40:05,853
Speaker 4: chat to you about what you are expecting to be

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Speaker 4: the big moment moments this election year. That's coming up.

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Speaker 1: Next talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathan Taylor

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00:40:13,773 --> 00:40:16,493
Speaker 1: Adams afternoons News Talk ZEDB.

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00:40:17,973 --> 00:40:21,613
Speaker 4: Very good afternoons, You welcome into the program. So the

882
00:40:21,653 --> 00:40:26,053
Speaker 4: election year is officially underway. Chris ofpher lux and the

883
00:40:26,053 --> 00:40:28,933
Speaker 4: Prime Minister, of course, has just finished his State of

884
00:40:29,013 --> 00:40:31,733
Speaker 4: the Nation's speech and it has been treated as a

885
00:40:31,813 --> 00:40:34,652
Speaker 4: bit of a starting gun. So with questions swirling around

886
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Speaker 4: the economy, leadership, cabinet changes and what voters are really feeling.

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Speaker 4: To break down that speech, we are joined once again

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Speaker 4: by News Talk ZB political reporter Ethan Griffiths. Ethan, thanks

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00:40:47,093 --> 00:40:48,053
Speaker 4: again for joining us.

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00:40:48,413 --> 00:40:49,013
Speaker 10: All good.

891
00:40:49,653 --> 00:40:51,413
Speaker 2: What were the biggest takeaways from the speech?

892
00:40:51,493 --> 00:40:55,773
Speaker 10: Ethan, Well, if you're hoping for new ideas or new policies,

893
00:40:55,813 --> 00:40:59,293
Speaker 10: you'll be left pretty disappointed. It's very much continuing the

894
00:40:59,333 --> 00:41:02,213
Speaker 10: same theme that we've seen in the past few years.

895
00:41:02,453 --> 00:41:04,493
Speaker 10: If you were to sum up the speech in one line,

896
00:41:04,533 --> 00:41:07,732
Speaker 10: it would be steady as she goes. The party's going

897
00:41:07,773 --> 00:41:11,173
Speaker 10: to take the same path that it has since entering government,

898
00:41:11,213 --> 00:41:14,253
Speaker 10: and there's no prizes for guessing what the biggest focus is.

899
00:41:14,373 --> 00:41:17,733
Speaker 10: It is growth. The first big takeaway from the speech,

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00:41:17,853 --> 00:41:21,533
Speaker 10: Chris Luxon's declared the economic recovery is here.

901
00:41:21,773 --> 00:41:25,053
Speaker 20: It's been two years of hard work, really hard work

902
00:41:25,173 --> 00:41:28,413
Speaker 20: in government, from businesses large and small, and in fact

903
00:41:28,453 --> 00:41:31,493
Speaker 20: from every single New Zealander. But I have to tell

904
00:41:31,533 --> 00:41:34,293
Speaker 20: you I feel more confident than ever that the recovery

905
00:41:34,293 --> 00:41:37,293
Speaker 20: has now arrived and Kiwiz can look forward to a

906
00:41:37,373 --> 00:41:39,692
Speaker 20: year which is brighter than the past few.

907
00:41:40,413 --> 00:41:43,733
Speaker 10: Now, this of course depends on how you define recovery.

908
00:41:43,773 --> 00:41:46,652
Speaker 10: Whether it's here or very close to arriving is up

909
00:41:46,693 --> 00:41:49,613
Speaker 10: for debate. But Luxon has a lot of decent numbers

910
00:41:49,613 --> 00:41:53,453
Speaker 10: to point to very high business confidence, manufacturing up, building,

911
00:41:53,493 --> 00:41:56,173
Speaker 10: consense up. And he spoke all about that as well.

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00:41:56,693 --> 00:41:59,213
Speaker 10: Last year at his State of the Nation's speech he

913
00:41:59,293 --> 00:42:02,013
Speaker 10: said twenty twenty five was the year of growth. In fact,

914
00:42:02,013 --> 00:42:04,933
Speaker 10: he mentioned the word forty three times in the speech.

915
00:42:05,453 --> 00:42:09,652
Speaker 10: Today he mentioned it three times, instead relying much more

916
00:42:09,693 --> 00:42:13,893
Speaker 10: on pointing to indicators suggesting it's here or arriving. And

917
00:42:13,933 --> 00:42:16,373
Speaker 10: that's obviously what the National Party will be banking on

918
00:42:16,453 --> 00:42:16,853
Speaker 10: this year.

919
00:42:17,493 --> 00:42:19,973
Speaker 4: And did he give give much away Ethan on what

920
00:42:20,013 --> 00:42:23,333
Speaker 4: else Nationals planning to campaign on the selection He did.

921
00:42:23,373 --> 00:42:26,373
Speaker 10: Actually three big policy planks there key we save a

922
00:42:26,453 --> 00:42:32,853
Speaker 10: reform RIMA reform and NCEEA reform. Now all are actually underway. First,

923
00:42:32,933 --> 00:42:36,733
Speaker 10: on key we say the National wants default employer and

924
00:42:36,813 --> 00:42:41,252
Speaker 10: employee contributions lifted to six percent by twenty thirty two.

925
00:42:41,333 --> 00:42:43,533
Speaker 10: That's six percent each, so a total of twelve percent.

926
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Speaker 10: He spoke about how important this is and I quote

927
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Speaker 10: because of the inevitable lift in the retirement age. Now

928
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Speaker 10: we all know zebrenuation is unaffordable. But as this may

929
00:42:55,013 --> 00:42:58,773
Speaker 10: be a hint that National could campaign again on raising

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00:42:58,853 --> 00:42:59,973
Speaker 10: the retirement age.

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00:43:00,253 --> 00:43:02,013
Speaker 2: I see, Yeah, very well.

932
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Speaker 10: On RMA reform, Luxon talked about how much time and

933
00:43:04,893 --> 00:43:07,373
Speaker 10: money Christ Bishop's new laws are going to save, hoping

934
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Speaker 10: this will lead to a mass of boost and development.

935
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Speaker 10: And then on NCA as well, we've talked a lot

936
00:43:11,693 --> 00:43:14,653
Speaker 10: about this. Education has long been seen as the issue

937
00:43:14,653 --> 00:43:17,933
Speaker 10: that Luxon's most passionate about personally. He says, this year

938
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Speaker 10: we'll see the bones of the new qualification. So there

939
00:43:21,253 --> 00:43:23,293
Speaker 10: is some interesting stuff within the speech. You'll be answering

940
00:43:23,373 --> 00:43:25,573
Speaker 10: some questions from media very shortly, so keep an air

941
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Speaker 10: out to see what he says.

942
00:43:26,413 --> 00:43:30,053
Speaker 2: Then, and what about on crime? I imagine he touted

943
00:43:30,053 --> 00:43:32,413
Speaker 2: they've had some good numbers coming through in crime.

944
00:43:33,013 --> 00:43:35,853
Speaker 10: Yeah, he did obviously at the last election. According to

945
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Speaker 10: Pol's you know, crime at Laura and order was one

946
00:43:38,093 --> 00:43:40,773
Speaker 10: of the biggest issues and it has dropped down that

947
00:43:40,893 --> 00:43:45,093
Speaker 10: list significantly. Obviously they have new sentencing laws. They've cracked

948
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Speaker 10: down on youth offending as well with things like the

949
00:43:47,573 --> 00:43:50,493
Speaker 10: young offender military academies. So all of that stuff that

950
00:43:50,533 --> 00:43:52,853
Speaker 10: he's talked about before. It'd be interesting to see if

951
00:43:52,893 --> 00:43:55,333
Speaker 10: there's much more this election campaign, but it is sort

952
00:43:55,373 --> 00:43:58,173
Speaker 10: of down the list of kiwi's priorities, which suggests that

953
00:43:58,173 --> 00:43:59,773
Speaker 10: they've probably done a reasonably good job with it.

954
00:43:59,933 --> 00:44:02,813
Speaker 4: Yeah, very interesting, Ethan, Thank you very much for joining

955
00:44:02,853 --> 00:44:04,773
Speaker 4: us once again. We'll let you get through to that

956
00:44:04,853 --> 00:44:06,893
Speaker 4: media stand up, but will catch your back here tomorrow.

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00:44:07,293 --> 00:44:07,893
Speaker 1: Cheers boys.

958
00:44:07,973 --> 00:44:12,093
Speaker 4: That Ethan Griffiths our New Storks heb political reporters. So

959
00:44:12,093 --> 00:44:13,493
Speaker 4: that's what we want to have a chat about over

960
00:44:13,533 --> 00:44:16,293
Speaker 4: the next fifty minutes or so. The State of the

961
00:44:16,373 --> 00:44:19,493
Speaker 4: Nation's speech he's listed our Prime minister has listed some

962
00:44:19,613 --> 00:44:23,333
Speaker 4: of their priorities going into this election year. But the

963
00:44:23,413 --> 00:44:26,013
Speaker 4: question we've got from you is what do you want

964
00:44:26,013 --> 00:44:28,853
Speaker 4: from national to get your vote ahead of the election?

965
00:44:29,013 --> 00:44:29,653
Speaker 4: Love to hear from you.

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00:44:29,773 --> 00:44:31,813
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the most important things to you. I'm

967
00:44:31,853 --> 00:44:35,453
Speaker 2: just flicking through because we've been given the text of

968
00:44:35,493 --> 00:44:39,333
Speaker 2: the speech quite a few pages here, very in depth.

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00:44:39,373 --> 00:44:42,053
Speaker 2: You know, it's just coming through. It's hard to take picure,

970
00:44:42,133 --> 00:44:46,133
Speaker 2: but you know, education is taking a big focus, and

971
00:44:46,333 --> 00:44:49,493
Speaker 2: you know, I'll just read some from Thanks to Erica Stanford,

972
00:44:49,533 --> 00:44:52,293
Speaker 2: we have also delivered a new structured approach to teaching

973
00:44:52,333 --> 00:44:55,693
Speaker 2: literacy and numeracy and introduced whole new curriculums for maths

974
00:44:55,693 --> 00:44:58,053
Speaker 2: and English and primary schools. Already, the number of new

975
00:44:58,213 --> 00:45:01,893
Speaker 2: entrants achieving where they should be in phonics has gone

976
00:45:01,933 --> 00:45:04,813
Speaker 2: from a dismal thirty six percent to fifty eight percent.

977
00:45:05,133 --> 00:45:08,733
Speaker 2: The number of students succeeding expectations is doubled. Then he

978
00:45:08,773 --> 00:45:12,772
Speaker 2: goes on to crime, talks about that from it thirty

979
00:45:12,773 --> 00:45:15,573
Speaker 2: eight thousand fewer victims of violent crime, you'th offending down

980
00:45:15,613 --> 00:45:18,493
Speaker 2: by sixteen percent, and ram DAIDs, ramraids down by eighty

981
00:45:18,493 --> 00:45:20,613
Speaker 2: five percent. You got us say ram raids are down.

982
00:45:20,853 --> 00:45:22,813
Speaker 4: They are absolutely It felt like the end of the

983
00:45:22,853 --> 00:45:25,652
Speaker 4: world for a while there, like ram raid againin No

984
00:45:25,933 --> 00:45:26,653
Speaker 4: Michael Hill.

985
00:45:26,573 --> 00:45:30,533
Speaker 2: Jeweler was safe for a while there. Yeah, So yeah,

986
00:45:30,533 --> 00:45:32,252
Speaker 2: how do you feel about it. Eight hundred and eighty

987
00:45:32,253 --> 00:45:34,573
Speaker 2: ten eighty. What will it take for National to get

988
00:45:34,613 --> 00:45:37,613
Speaker 2: your vote? If it is as Ethan Griffith says, steady

989
00:45:37,613 --> 00:45:39,453
Speaker 2: as she goes more of the same. Are you happy

990
00:45:39,453 --> 00:45:41,973
Speaker 2: with that? Will that that get get you a tick?

991
00:45:42,573 --> 00:45:43,573
Speaker 2: Two ticks for National?

992
00:45:43,693 --> 00:45:45,533
Speaker 4: Yeah, love to hear from you. Oh eight hundred and

993
00:45:45,573 --> 00:45:47,813
Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty is that number to call? Nine two

994
00:45:48,173 --> 00:45:50,573
Speaker 4: nine to two is the text. Let's get into this one.

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00:45:50,613 --> 00:45:53,653
Speaker 4: It is twelve past two. Back very shortly.

996
00:45:54,893 --> 00:45:59,733
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon talk, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons call. Oh,

997
00:45:59,813 --> 00:46:02,373
Speaker 1: eight hundred eighty ten eighty us talk said, be.

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00:46:03,893 --> 00:46:06,692
Speaker 4: Afternoon. So the starting whistle has blown on election year,

999
00:46:06,733 --> 00:46:10,853
Speaker 4: Christopher Larks and State of Nations speech has just been uttered,

1000
00:46:10,933 --> 00:46:13,333
Speaker 4: and it puts the government under the spotlight. Of course,

1001
00:46:13,413 --> 00:46:16,813
Speaker 4: is economic pressure, leadership scrutiny and cabinet rumors. Well, but

1002
00:46:16,853 --> 00:46:18,293
Speaker 4: the question we put to you is what do you

1003
00:46:18,333 --> 00:46:20,733
Speaker 4: want from National to get your vote this election? One

1004
00:46:20,813 --> 00:46:22,613
Speaker 4: hundred and eighteen eighty is the number to call.

1005
00:46:22,893 --> 00:46:25,613
Speaker 2: Dallas, welcome the show. How are you feeling about that?

1006
00:46:25,693 --> 00:46:25,933
Speaker 12: Have you?

1007
00:46:25,973 --> 00:46:26,213
Speaker 10: Have you?

1008
00:46:26,293 --> 00:46:27,893
Speaker 2: Have you heard what Luxon's had to say?

1009
00:46:29,373 --> 00:46:31,213
Speaker 21: And no, I haven't, but I just want to welcome

1010
00:46:31,253 --> 00:46:36,893
Speaker 21: you back, guys. And yeah, sounds like you've had expensive

1011
00:46:36,893 --> 00:46:39,333
Speaker 21: holidays in different ways. One of the teeth and another

1012
00:46:39,533 --> 00:46:40,813
Speaker 21: was getting engaged.

1013
00:46:40,613 --> 00:46:43,573
Speaker 4: Spot on Actually yeah, yeah, yeah. My bank account Leans

1014
00:46:43,613 --> 00:46:44,613
Speaker 4: is looking very small at the moment.

1015
00:46:44,693 --> 00:46:47,093
Speaker 2: Spinning two thousand, eight hundred and forty dollars on fillings

1016
00:46:47,173 --> 00:46:51,413
Speaker 2: was the highlight of my holiday. Dallison, thank you for celebrating.

1017
00:46:52,733 --> 00:46:55,013
Speaker 21: Oh, Matt, I've got a friend in Philippines that she

1018
00:46:55,093 --> 00:46:57,813
Speaker 21: said a crown in Philippines at thirty buck.

1019
00:46:58,133 --> 00:47:00,293
Speaker 4: Thirty bucks in the Philippines.

1020
00:47:00,453 --> 00:47:03,613
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, you can't be there, Tell her I'm coming over.

1021
00:47:04,773 --> 00:47:06,093
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, good.

1022
00:47:06,013 --> 00:47:06,453
Speaker 3: Thing about it.

1023
00:47:06,493 --> 00:47:10,653
Speaker 21: But as for the politics, I'm struggling to get excited

1024
00:47:10,693 --> 00:47:14,813
Speaker 21: about New Zealand politics. I'm quite excited that Luxon is

1025
00:47:14,933 --> 00:47:18,613
Speaker 21: joining this thing on Gaza, this Gaza committee set up

1026
00:47:18,613 --> 00:47:22,252
Speaker 21: by Trump, so that that's a positive thing. But as

1027
00:47:22,293 --> 00:47:26,373
Speaker 21: far as local politics, I mean, what happens is that

1028
00:47:26,813 --> 00:47:29,493
Speaker 21: we all vote in November and then Winston's decides there

1029
00:47:29,573 --> 00:47:30,692
Speaker 21: is the government going to be right?

1030
00:47:31,133 --> 00:47:31,293
Speaker 12: Yeah?

1031
00:47:31,293 --> 00:47:33,613
Speaker 2: Well, I was just thinking that before because Luxe and

1032
00:47:33,653 --> 00:47:35,493
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what the exact words were, but Chris

1033
00:47:35,533 --> 00:47:40,093
Speaker 2: Fluxen was suggesting that the age of retirement had to increase.

1034
00:47:41,093 --> 00:47:42,813
Speaker 2: It was inevitable. I think those were the words.

1035
00:47:42,893 --> 00:47:45,093
Speaker 4: Was it Thailand correct? Yes? So the line here is

1036
00:47:46,293 --> 00:47:49,053
Speaker 4: to support New Zealander's financial security against the backdrop of

1037
00:47:49,093 --> 00:47:52,812
Speaker 4: an aging society and an inevitable lift in the retirement age.

1038
00:47:52,853 --> 00:47:54,493
Speaker 2: And I was thinking, well, Winston will put his hand

1039
00:47:54,533 --> 00:47:58,013
Speaker 2: up there when it comes to coalition negotiations.

1040
00:47:57,333 --> 00:48:00,652
Speaker 4: And say no, it won't go up there.

1041
00:48:01,853 --> 00:48:03,933
Speaker 21: So Matt, why don't we just starst Winston now who

1042
00:48:04,013 --> 00:48:04,853
Speaker 21: the government is going to.

1043
00:48:04,773 --> 00:48:05,733
Speaker 5: Be all the time.

1044
00:48:05,813 --> 00:48:11,453
Speaker 2: And yeah, but that's a good point, I mean very well.

1045
00:48:11,493 --> 00:48:14,813
Speaker 2: If you look back up on you know m mp he,

1046
00:48:15,093 --> 00:48:18,933
Speaker 2: you know Winston's nailed it. Yeah, there's only every now

1047
00:48:18,973 --> 00:48:20,533
Speaker 2: and the end. Once he's been in government and had

1048
00:48:20,573 --> 00:48:23,453
Speaker 2: his way, sometimes he gets thrown out. Yeah, but he

1049
00:48:23,533 --> 00:48:26,413
Speaker 2: looks like he's in a stronger position pretty much than

1050
00:48:26,453 --> 00:48:29,533
Speaker 2: he ever has been before going into an election Onster Peters.

1051
00:48:29,613 --> 00:48:32,573
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've got no doubt Dallas he'll find a way

1052
00:48:32,613 --> 00:48:34,773
Speaker 4: to sort of row back. But we all recall when

1053
00:48:34,773 --> 00:48:37,333
Speaker 4: he mentioned that he will never do a deal with

1054
00:48:38,133 --> 00:48:41,333
Speaker 4: labor when it's been run by Chris Hipkins and I imagine. Look,

1055
00:48:41,333 --> 00:48:42,973
Speaker 4: he's a very crafty guy. And if it comes to

1056
00:48:42,973 --> 00:48:45,733
Speaker 4: play that Chris Hopkins remains as leader, and it looks

1057
00:48:45,773 --> 00:48:47,933
Speaker 4: like he will, then maybe he will have something up

1058
00:48:47,933 --> 00:48:50,293
Speaker 4: his sleeve to say no, no, no, you're taking my

1059
00:48:50,333 --> 00:48:52,493
Speaker 4: words out of out of context there. But he's going

1060
00:48:52,573 --> 00:48:53,293
Speaker 4: to have to row back on that.

1061
00:48:53,493 --> 00:48:56,613
Speaker 2: Well, you know, we would label would labor negotiate and

1062
00:48:56,853 --> 00:49:00,373
Speaker 2: in the negotiation table as you know, post election a

1063
00:49:00,613 --> 00:49:04,373
Speaker 2: Chris Hopkins being rolled so that they can get into government.

1064
00:49:04,373 --> 00:49:07,973
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, anything happened. Well, good to talk

1065
00:49:08,013 --> 00:49:10,413
Speaker 2: to you again in Dallas. I hope you have a

1066
00:49:10,413 --> 00:49:12,693
Speaker 2: fantastic twenty twenty six and look forward to talking to

1067
00:49:12,733 --> 00:49:13,613
Speaker 2: you for the whole year.

1068
00:49:14,493 --> 00:49:16,653
Speaker 4: Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

1069
00:49:16,653 --> 00:49:18,253
Speaker 4: to call. What do you want from National to get

1070
00:49:18,253 --> 00:49:19,013
Speaker 4: your vote this election?

1071
00:49:19,293 --> 00:49:21,692
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, have they got your vote? I mean,

1072
00:49:21,693 --> 00:49:23,652
Speaker 2: of course you haven't heard the State of the Nation

1073
00:49:23,693 --> 00:49:27,533
Speaker 2: because it's just been delivered, but he talked about that.

1074
00:49:27,613 --> 00:49:30,853
Speaker 2: He claims the economic recovery has arrived, citing rising business

1075
00:49:30,853 --> 00:49:34,093
Speaker 2: confidence here. He points to business confidence at its highest

1076
00:49:34,133 --> 00:49:38,652
Speaker 2: levels in twenty thirteen twenty fourteen, manufacturing growth, that it's

1077
00:49:38,693 --> 00:49:43,173
Speaker 2: strongest since late twenty twenty one. Auckland now has New

1078
00:49:43,293 --> 00:49:47,773
Speaker 2: Zealand's strongest consumer confidence according to WISPAC. The government claims

1079
00:49:47,773 --> 00:49:51,533
Speaker 2: to have locked in tight budgets. Luxon says eleven billion

1080
00:49:51,533 --> 00:49:54,373
Speaker 2: a year in savings has been delivered, equal to about

1081
00:49:54,413 --> 00:49:57,773
Speaker 2: five thousand per household. He commits to further spending cuts

1082
00:49:57,773 --> 00:49:59,893
Speaker 2: in the main budget with no room for a big

1083
00:49:59,933 --> 00:50:02,853
Speaker 2: election giveaways. That's going to be an interesting thing, isn't

1084
00:50:02,853 --> 00:50:08,813
Speaker 2: it when it becomes to the election, because give ways

1085
00:50:09,173 --> 00:50:11,573
Speaker 2: when we're currently sitting in a situation where we're borrowing

1086
00:50:11,613 --> 00:50:15,453
Speaker 2: money to pay our debt, So it's gonna be difficult

1087
00:50:15,453 --> 00:50:18,373
Speaker 2: for anyone to run a lolly scramble without a lot

1088
00:50:18,373 --> 00:50:19,413
Speaker 2: of pushback.

1089
00:50:19,013 --> 00:50:21,533
Speaker 4: Right absolutely, Yeah, So that will be coming up in May.

1090
00:50:21,573 --> 00:50:23,653
Speaker 4: But I've got to say, and I had a holiday

1091
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Speaker 4: where for by and large, I wasn't reading as much

1092
00:50:27,693 --> 00:50:29,853
Speaker 4: news as I normally would because I just wanted a

1093
00:50:29,853 --> 00:50:32,373
Speaker 4: bit of a break and it's good for the mental

1094
00:50:32,453 --> 00:50:34,253
Speaker 4: health in general for some parts. But now that we're

1095
00:50:34,293 --> 00:50:36,093
Speaker 4: back into it, I've got my head back in the game.

1096
00:50:36,173 --> 00:50:39,333
Speaker 4: But I'm feeling really positive at the start of this

1097
00:50:39,413 --> 00:50:42,293
Speaker 4: year coming into it, and I feel that around the

1098
00:50:42,293 --> 00:50:44,493
Speaker 4: country as well, and when I was traveling around in

1099
00:50:44,533 --> 00:50:49,213
Speaker 4: the holiday, felt a genuine more buoyancy than I probably

1100
00:50:49,293 --> 00:50:51,493
Speaker 4: felt personally and saw at the end of last year.

1101
00:50:51,773 --> 00:50:54,533
Speaker 4: So whether that's just because of the circles that I've

1102
00:50:54,573 --> 00:50:57,213
Speaker 4: been rolling around in, but I think it feels like

1103
00:50:57,293 --> 00:50:59,293
Speaker 4: there is a bit more positivity for this year. And

1104
00:50:59,333 --> 00:51:01,093
Speaker 4: maybe we always start off the year like that, we

1105
00:51:01,133 --> 00:51:03,533
Speaker 4: start off optimistic and saying this is our year, like

1106
00:51:03,613 --> 00:51:04,133
Speaker 4: the Warriors.

1107
00:51:04,213 --> 00:51:07,652
Speaker 2: But maybe I'm always optimistic. Yeah, I'm a big fan

1108
00:51:07,693 --> 00:51:10,093
Speaker 2: of listening what you grateful for, you know, and we've

1109
00:51:10,133 --> 00:51:12,653
Speaker 2: got so much to be grateful for in this country.

1110
00:51:13,013 --> 00:51:15,373
Speaker 2: If you're a negative person in this country, and that

1111
00:51:15,413 --> 00:51:17,733
Speaker 2: doesn't matter where you sit politically, but if you're negative

1112
00:51:17,773 --> 00:51:20,293
Speaker 2: in this country, then you know there's something seriously wrong

1113
00:51:20,333 --> 00:51:23,973
Speaker 2: with you. Yeah, because it's pretty pretty good. But Ethan

1114
00:51:24,013 --> 00:51:26,893
Speaker 2: Griffiths was saying, before you know the election November, it's

1115
00:51:26,933 --> 00:51:29,613
Speaker 2: most likely time for the election. Yep, you can't do

1116
00:51:29,653 --> 00:51:32,013
Speaker 2: it in December, No, but the government will long the

1117
00:51:32,053 --> 00:51:36,093
Speaker 2: longest runway for things to get better. Then you know

1118
00:51:36,133 --> 00:51:39,573
Speaker 2: that it starts, the weather starts to get better, and Novembers,

1119
00:51:39,773 --> 00:51:42,773
Speaker 2: maybe the ob let's get some victories whatever. Yeah, but

1120
00:51:42,853 --> 00:51:44,172
Speaker 2: I mean, as you say, it is a positive time

1121
00:51:44,213 --> 00:51:45,413
Speaker 2: A year of the holidays, isn't.

1122
00:51:45,173 --> 00:51:47,212
Speaker 4: It It is? Yeah? Oh eight one hundred and eighty

1123
00:51:47,293 --> 00:51:50,733
Speaker 4: ten eighty. So what do you want from a National

1124
00:51:50,853 --> 00:51:53,533
Speaker 4: or other parties to get your vote this election? Christoph

1125
00:51:53,533 --> 00:51:55,813
Speaker 4: election's kicked it off of the State of a Nation's speech,

1126
00:51:55,853 --> 00:51:57,493
Speaker 4: So keen to get your thoughts. I eight one hundred

1127
00:51:57,493 --> 00:51:58,133
Speaker 4: and eighty ten eighty.

1128
00:51:58,173 --> 00:52:00,133
Speaker 2: The six says it doesn't matter. The alternative doesn't be

1129
00:52:00,173 --> 00:52:01,973
Speaker 2: a thinking about it. So I'm voting National and.

1130
00:52:02,093 --> 00:52:03,893
Speaker 4: Keep those texts coming in nine two nine two. It's

1131
00:52:03,933 --> 00:52:05,013
Speaker 4: twenty one pass two.

1132
00:52:08,693 --> 00:52:12,373
Speaker 1: Mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty

1133
00:52:12,413 --> 00:52:14,013
Speaker 1: ten eighty on news Talk SIB.

1134
00:52:14,733 --> 00:52:16,853
Speaker 4: Very good afternoon to you. So we're talking about the

1135
00:52:16,893 --> 00:52:21,013
Speaker 4: State of the Nation's speech. Chris Luxon has just delivered.

1136
00:52:21,053 --> 00:52:23,853
Speaker 4: So what do you want from any of the parties

1137
00:52:23,893 --> 00:52:26,093
Speaker 4: to get you all vote this election? It's officially kicked

1138
00:52:26,093 --> 00:52:27,693
Speaker 4: off with that speech. O. Eight one hundred and eight

1139
00:52:27,773 --> 00:52:28,533
Speaker 4: ten eighty is number.

1140
00:52:28,773 --> 00:52:31,373
Speaker 2: Troy has texted through and he said, I'm thinking very

1141
00:52:31,373 --> 00:52:34,013
Speaker 2: positively about this year. November seven will be the election. Day,

1142
00:52:34,013 --> 00:52:36,933
Speaker 2: and I think National will be elected. I can't really

1143
00:52:36,973 --> 00:52:39,333
Speaker 2: speak anymore. I've been on holiday so long. We elected,

1144
00:52:40,213 --> 00:52:42,573
Speaker 2: I'll say that again, and I think National will be

1145
00:52:42,733 --> 00:52:46,053
Speaker 2: re elected. Interestingly, Luxon did not mention labor in a

1146
00:52:46,093 --> 00:52:48,893
Speaker 2: speech when he often does, instead focused on what National

1147
00:52:48,933 --> 00:52:51,693
Speaker 2: are doing and can offer Troy. Yeah, there is a

1148
00:52:51,693 --> 00:52:54,373
Speaker 2: lot of touting of success in his speech.

1149
00:52:54,573 --> 00:52:58,373
Speaker 4: Yes, Chris, how are you matey?

1150
00:52:59,333 --> 00:53:02,493
Speaker 22: Just for transparency reasons. I'm a Kiwi that lives over

1151
00:53:02,533 --> 00:53:03,293
Speaker 22: in Australia.

1152
00:53:03,413 --> 00:53:04,973
Speaker 19: Oh, still voting.

1153
00:53:05,253 --> 00:53:08,093
Speaker 22: I can still vote in the election at home. And

1154
00:53:08,773 --> 00:53:10,933
Speaker 22: I listened to a bit of the speech that Chris

1155
00:53:10,933 --> 00:53:14,973
Speaker 22: fa Luxon gave and had a great attitude about a future.

1156
00:53:16,213 --> 00:53:20,613
Speaker 22: It's also statistic proven that I've been pretty good on

1157
00:53:20,893 --> 00:53:24,653
Speaker 22: the crime rate being down, the interest rates are going down,

1158
00:53:25,013 --> 00:53:28,573
Speaker 22: in the exports from our A and P sector, et

1159
00:53:28,653 --> 00:53:32,893
Speaker 22: cetera are going up. So I see that the economy

1160
00:53:32,893 --> 00:53:38,333
Speaker 22: of home is starting quote me wrongly. These green shoots

1161
00:53:38,453 --> 00:53:43,093
Speaker 22: are coming through now and you can't expect everything to

1162
00:53:43,213 --> 00:53:46,973
Speaker 22: happen within one to three year cycle, you know. And

1163
00:53:47,333 --> 00:53:54,813
Speaker 22: I would vote on this side of the coalition because

1164
00:53:54,813 --> 00:53:58,013
Speaker 22: they're doing a better job than the last whoever party

1165
00:53:58,013 --> 00:54:01,733
Speaker 22: I vote for. That's quite interesting because I like all

1166
00:54:01,813 --> 00:54:04,773
Speaker 22: three of the New Zealand First Act and National in

1167
00:54:04,893 --> 00:54:10,213
Speaker 22: the current coalition, it'll all add to the same, right, Yeah,

1168
00:54:10,613 --> 00:54:14,493
Speaker 22: I think it's a tick for me that they are

1169
00:54:14,613 --> 00:54:20,093
Speaker 22: finally getting this country going, you know. And it wasn't

1170
00:54:21,253 --> 00:54:23,253
Speaker 22: It wasn't a lot of fault with labor because of

1171
00:54:23,293 --> 00:54:26,493
Speaker 22: the the COVID and the way we had to do things,

1172
00:54:26,493 --> 00:54:29,493
Speaker 22: et cetera. But I think a lot of News Zanders

1173
00:54:29,733 --> 00:54:33,533
Speaker 22: would still think there was a lot of overspent unnecessary money.

1174
00:54:34,253 --> 00:54:37,853
Speaker 22: I can't trust the guy that was number two behind

1175
00:54:37,973 --> 00:54:41,493
Speaker 22: your cinder. So if they were to be any serious

1176
00:54:41,653 --> 00:54:44,333
Speaker 22: labor party, I think they should pick the new Labor

1177
00:54:45,013 --> 00:54:46,253
Speaker 22: leader before the next election.

1178
00:54:46,573 --> 00:54:49,373
Speaker 2: What kind of terrifying Australian animals behind you? Are you

1179
00:54:49,413 --> 00:54:51,733
Speaker 2: sure you're safe where you're standing there, Chris?

1180
00:54:52,173 --> 00:54:56,613
Speaker 22: Actually, it's quite funny. It's an Indian minded bird right

1181
00:54:57,693 --> 00:55:02,212
Speaker 22: down here, and I feed them. They like their own

1182
00:55:02,213 --> 00:55:05,333
Speaker 22: mind of birds are the gray ones, but feed. I

1183
00:55:05,413 --> 00:55:07,453
Speaker 22: feed all birds in and I love nature.

1184
00:55:07,733 --> 00:55:09,613
Speaker 2: Right, it sounds like a dinosaur, but I have a

1185
00:55:09,653 --> 00:55:12,973
Speaker 2: screech sound about like a velociraptive. Over down the phone line.

1186
00:55:13,733 --> 00:55:15,253
Speaker 22: You should see the sides of it.

1187
00:55:17,093 --> 00:55:17,773
Speaker 4: Now of course, of.

1188
00:55:17,693 --> 00:55:19,933
Speaker 2: Course in the Poles and you know, you're you're positive

1189
00:55:19,933 --> 00:55:22,533
Speaker 2: about it and looking in from Australia and you think

1190
00:55:22,573 --> 00:55:25,093
Speaker 2: the coalition's done a good job. But Poles at the

1191
00:55:25,173 --> 00:55:27,493
Speaker 2: end of last year were showing you know, a number

1192
00:55:27,493 --> 00:55:30,173
Speaker 2: of Poles showing labor polling higher than national. How do

1193
00:55:30,173 --> 00:55:31,053
Speaker 2: you explain that.

1194
00:55:32,933 --> 00:55:35,813
Speaker 22: There's a lot of people in New Zealand that are

1195
00:55:36,013 --> 00:55:43,573
Speaker 22: used to living off the government and there's a lot

1196
00:55:43,573 --> 00:55:47,613
Speaker 22: of New Zealanders that want to walk forward and do

1197
00:55:47,773 --> 00:55:50,773
Speaker 22: their own things. So when we need to be on

1198
00:55:50,853 --> 00:55:55,373
Speaker 22: the side of not tall poppy syndrome, but reward the

1199
00:55:55,453 --> 00:55:58,733
Speaker 22: people that are giving it a go and finally break

1200
00:55:58,773 --> 00:56:01,573
Speaker 22: out from just because you've got more.

1201
00:56:01,373 --> 00:56:03,053
Speaker 5: Than me, you suck.

1202
00:56:03,213 --> 00:56:06,613
Speaker 22: How about you teach me and I grow with you

1203
00:56:07,293 --> 00:56:12,373
Speaker 22: and have a positive mindset about life moving forward. Because

1204
00:56:12,733 --> 00:56:16,453
Speaker 22: that's actually a big sue he's on compared to Australia. Ye,

1205
00:56:17,213 --> 00:56:17,933
Speaker 22: just go for it.

1206
00:56:18,293 --> 00:56:22,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm talking to Australians that have come

1207
00:56:22,693 --> 00:56:24,493
Speaker 2: over here. I've talked to Australians that come over here

1208
00:56:24,533 --> 00:56:27,573
Speaker 2: and tried to do business over here, and they are

1209
00:56:28,573 --> 00:56:30,493
Speaker 2: what this guy said is people just lining up to

1210
00:56:30,533 --> 00:56:33,893
Speaker 2: find those they sit there finding that, not even allowing

1211
00:56:34,053 --> 00:56:37,173
Speaker 2: for the conversation of maybe let's just fantasize about this happening.

1212
00:56:37,213 --> 00:56:40,293
Speaker 2: It's immediately this won't happen. Traffic management, we can't do that.

1213
00:56:40,533 --> 00:56:42,413
Speaker 2: That's South and safety, you can't do this, you know.

1214
00:56:42,853 --> 00:56:44,493
Speaker 2: So I think I think that's a that's a that's

1215
00:56:44,693 --> 00:56:46,933
Speaker 2: a very good point, Chris, that I think just generally

1216
00:56:46,973 --> 00:56:50,533
Speaker 2: in New Zealand, we do need to celebrate the positive war.

1217
00:56:50,653 --> 00:56:53,333
Speaker 2: We've got to say, yes, whoever is in whoever's in power,

1218
00:56:53,893 --> 00:56:56,333
Speaker 2: because government's come and go. But we need to be

1219
00:56:56,453 --> 00:56:58,813
Speaker 2: more positive as a people. And you've got every reason

1220
00:56:58,813 --> 00:56:59,853
Speaker 2: to be positive in this country.

1221
00:56:59,893 --> 00:57:01,173
Speaker 4: We do. We live in paradise.

1222
00:57:01,933 --> 00:57:04,693
Speaker 2: Someone says, Tyler, how are you measuring that things are

1223
00:57:04,693 --> 00:57:06,973
Speaker 2: getting better? Honestly, how many people did you speak to

1224
00:57:07,053 --> 00:57:10,573
Speaker 2: that told you that for you to make that conclusion, Well,

1225
00:57:10,573 --> 00:57:11,813
Speaker 2: you said you got a vibe. You said it was

1226
00:57:11,813 --> 00:57:13,652
Speaker 2: a vibe. You said over the holidays, Tyler, that you

1227
00:57:13,693 --> 00:57:17,173
Speaker 2: had the vibe yep, that people were feeling more positive

1228
00:57:17,173 --> 00:57:18,053
Speaker 2: and things were getting better.

1229
00:57:18,133 --> 00:57:18,373
Speaker 5: Yep.

1230
00:57:18,573 --> 00:57:20,533
Speaker 4: And to quote the Castle, that's exactly what it is.

1231
00:57:20,573 --> 00:57:23,173
Speaker 4: It was the vibe. And that is important because perception

1232
00:57:23,573 --> 00:57:26,613
Speaker 4: can become reality, and when people are genuinely more happy

1233
00:57:26,693 --> 00:57:30,013
Speaker 4: and optimistic and positive about the future, then that's when

1234
00:57:30,173 --> 00:57:33,133
Speaker 4: it gets It's contagious, right, and then people start saying

1235
00:57:33,213 --> 00:57:35,653
Speaker 4: yes more and things can start to be delivered and

1236
00:57:35,773 --> 00:57:38,773
Speaker 4: action happens. So the vibe is important. I don't have

1237
00:57:38,813 --> 00:57:40,693
Speaker 4: facts and figures right in front of me right now,

1238
00:57:40,733 --> 00:57:43,973
Speaker 4: but the general vibe I found out there was that

1239
00:57:44,013 --> 00:57:45,933
Speaker 4: this is our year, so come on New Zealand.

1240
00:57:46,573 --> 00:57:49,613
Speaker 2: So that's so he's got to ask your question text,

1241
00:57:49,653 --> 00:57:51,213
Speaker 2: so he's got no stats or for us to.

1242
00:57:51,133 --> 00:57:53,853
Speaker 4: Pack up the vibe in the castle.

1243
00:57:54,253 --> 00:57:56,533
Speaker 2: We have every reason to feel positive. However, I'm sure

1244
00:57:56,653 --> 00:57:58,853
Speaker 2: that now the political media are back at work will

1245
00:57:58,853 --> 00:58:00,533
Speaker 2: try to drum up as much as you get use

1246
00:58:00,573 --> 00:58:04,493
Speaker 2: as possible. Can't help it, thinking we better off without them. Okay, okay,

1247
00:58:05,173 --> 00:58:07,613
Speaker 2: keep those sticks coming through, right. Well, I'll just pack

1248
00:58:07,653 --> 00:58:08,813
Speaker 2: it in then and go back on all of that.

1249
00:58:09,333 --> 00:58:11,493
Speaker 4: One hundred eighty ten eighty is a number to call.

1250
00:58:11,573 --> 00:58:13,573
Speaker 4: What do you want to see from any of the

1251
00:58:13,613 --> 00:58:16,293
Speaker 4: major parties to get your vote this election? It is

1252
00:58:16,333 --> 00:58:18,133
Speaker 4: twenty nine past two.

1253
00:58:18,693 --> 00:58:22,453
Speaker 17: You've talk said be headlines with blue bubble taxis it's

1254
00:58:22,573 --> 00:58:25,613
Speaker 17: no trouble with a blue bubble. Police say the victim

1255
00:58:25,613 --> 00:58:29,013
Speaker 17: of a targeted shooting in South Auckland's or Nihunger is

1256
00:58:29,093 --> 00:58:33,333
Speaker 17: critical but stable in hospital with gunshot wounds to the abdomen.

1257
00:58:34,133 --> 00:58:37,413
Speaker 17: A CTU survey of more than thirty five hundred workers

1258
00:58:37,413 --> 00:58:42,573
Speaker 17: across industries found many are unsatisfied with the government, reporting

1259
00:58:42,613 --> 00:58:48,453
Speaker 17: worsening workloads and deteriorating job security. Police have prosecuted fewer

1260
00:58:48,493 --> 00:58:51,573
Speaker 17: than one in ten abuse cases referred to them during

1261
00:58:51,613 --> 00:58:54,973
Speaker 17: the Inquiry into abuse in state and faith based institutions

1262
00:58:55,133 --> 00:58:59,133
Speaker 17: from nineteen fifty to nineteen ninety nine. They say historical

1263
00:58:59,173 --> 00:59:03,453
Speaker 17: cases are challenging, with some people dying and some accusers

1264
00:59:03,653 --> 00:59:08,813
Speaker 17: deciding not to prosecute. Trepidation As global leaders prepared to

1265
00:59:08,813 --> 00:59:12,213
Speaker 17: descend on Switzerland for the World Economic Forum, as Donald

1266
00:59:12,213 --> 00:59:15,773
Speaker 17: Trump threatens to European leaders with tariffs, is leverage to

1267
00:59:15,853 --> 00:59:20,093
Speaker 17: push his attempt to take Greenland. Prime Minister Chris Larkson

1268
00:59:20,133 --> 00:59:23,413
Speaker 17: says he's more confident than ever the recoveries arrived as

1269
00:59:23,413 --> 00:59:25,933
Speaker 17: he kicks off election year with a set piece State

1270
00:59:25,973 --> 00:59:29,293
Speaker 17: of the Nation's speech in Auckland. When the people of

1271
00:59:29,333 --> 00:59:32,853
Speaker 17: Iran ask you to stand with them. This is what

1272
00:59:32,893 --> 00:59:35,893
Speaker 17: they mean. See the full column at Enzid Herald Premium.

1273
00:59:36,133 --> 00:59:38,013
Speaker 17: Mack now to Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

1274
00:59:38,173 --> 00:59:40,653
Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Raylean. So we are discussing the

1275
00:59:40,693 --> 00:59:43,693
Speaker 4: State of the Nation speech by the Prime Minister Christopher Luxean.

1276
00:59:44,013 --> 00:59:46,573
Speaker 4: It is the starting gun for election year. So the

1277
00:59:46,653 --> 00:59:48,293
Speaker 4: question we have put to you is what do you

1278
00:59:48,333 --> 00:59:50,453
Speaker 4: want to see from any of the major parties to

1279
00:59:50,493 --> 00:59:52,853
Speaker 4: get your vote this election? Oh one hundred and eighty

1280
00:59:52,853 --> 00:59:53,893
Speaker 4: ten eighty is that number to call.

1281
00:59:53,973 --> 00:59:56,453
Speaker 2: You're taking a little bit of heat there, Tyler around

1282
00:59:56,493 --> 00:59:58,573
Speaker 2: your claims that you feel like the vibe across the

1283
00:59:58,613 --> 01:00:00,253
Speaker 2: nation as you were traveling around. Where did you go

1284
01:00:00,293 --> 01:00:01,413
Speaker 2: to your mountains?

1285
01:00:01,453 --> 01:00:03,253
Speaker 4: Yeah, went up to the Bay of Islands, went down

1286
01:00:03,293 --> 01:00:06,373
Speaker 4: to the Marlborough Sounds. Yep, hang hang out in Auckland's

1287
01:00:06,933 --> 01:00:08,173
Speaker 4: Jesus say that that.

1288
01:00:08,533 --> 01:00:08,773
Speaker 12: So the.

1289
01:00:10,493 --> 01:00:13,013
Speaker 2: Vibe at batches and holiday parks was positive.

1290
01:00:13,093 --> 01:00:15,613
Speaker 4: Yachtis were very happy, mate, yachties were very happy about

1291
01:00:15,613 --> 01:00:16,333
Speaker 4: life in New Zealand.

1292
01:00:16,413 --> 01:00:18,213
Speaker 2: Well this Texas is Auckland. As they're out of touch.

1293
01:00:18,253 --> 01:00:20,013
Speaker 2: Come to Wellington, tell us we're doing well. I was

1294
01:00:20,133 --> 01:00:22,493
Speaker 2: just down in Wellington and it is and I had

1295
01:00:22,493 --> 01:00:24,573
Speaker 2: a great time. And it did actually seem positive down

1296
01:00:24,573 --> 01:00:25,293
Speaker 2: in Wellington as well.

1297
01:00:25,293 --> 01:00:26,253
Speaker 4: Good vibe down in Wellington.

1298
01:00:26,293 --> 01:00:27,813
Speaker 2: It was actually a good vibe down in Wellington.

1299
01:00:27,893 --> 01:00:28,533
Speaker 4: Yeah, good good.

1300
01:00:28,533 --> 01:00:31,373
Speaker 2: But I think we sort of have had this collective

1301
01:00:31,453 --> 01:00:34,573
Speaker 2: Wellington sucks vibe and there's definitely some challenges down there,

1302
01:00:34,613 --> 01:00:37,533
Speaker 2: and there's some challenges and CBDs around the entire country,

1303
01:00:37,573 --> 01:00:40,693
Speaker 2: but the CBD of Wellington has definitely taken hammering yes

1304
01:00:40,853 --> 01:00:42,293
Speaker 2: from various policy decisions.

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01:00:42,373 --> 01:00:42,613
Speaker 1: Yep.

1306
01:00:42,653 --> 01:00:45,973
Speaker 2: Boy, I was just in Totonger over the weekend and

1307
01:00:46,653 --> 01:00:48,813
Speaker 2: they've got some problems in the center of the town.

1308
01:00:48,893 --> 01:00:52,133
Speaker 2: This CBD, Yes, out in the mound, it's buzzing. Yeah,

1309
01:00:52,173 --> 01:00:56,573
Speaker 2: you know, it feels like you're some kind of international buzzing,

1310
01:00:57,213 --> 01:01:01,293
Speaker 2: incredible vibe. You go into the town and it feels

1311
01:01:01,333 --> 01:01:04,373
Speaker 2: very dead. But anyway, that's another question to answer.

1312
01:01:04,453 --> 01:01:06,893
Speaker 4: But I thought the vibe and Wellington was okay. Yeah, yeah, oh,

1313
01:01:06,933 --> 01:01:09,333
Speaker 4: one hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you Wellington love

1314
01:01:09,333 --> 01:01:10,693
Speaker 4: to hear from you. If you don't, if you're not

1315
01:01:10,693 --> 01:01:13,093
Speaker 4: feeling that same vibe, by all means, come on through

1316
01:01:13,653 --> 01:01:17,773
Speaker 4: nine two ninety two. Is that text number is well okay?

1317
01:01:17,893 --> 01:01:20,533
Speaker 2: So I want tougher penalties on those that abuse animals,

1318
01:01:21,253 --> 01:01:24,173
Speaker 2: plus much tougher penalties put on owners that do not vaccinate,

1319
01:01:24,253 --> 01:01:27,613
Speaker 2: dsex and register their dogs. There has been far too

1320
01:01:27,653 --> 01:01:30,813
Speaker 2: many dog attacks. If that's not a person, that's someone's pet.

1321
01:01:31,133 --> 01:01:35,453
Speaker 2: I want a fireband. I want fireband and maybe just

1322
01:01:36,173 --> 01:01:38,693
Speaker 2: have public displays. So fire works, I'm just looking through

1323
01:01:39,973 --> 01:01:40,813
Speaker 2: lux and speech.

1324
01:01:41,693 --> 01:01:43,253
Speaker 4: Nothing there on fireworks bands.

1325
01:01:44,933 --> 01:01:47,653
Speaker 2: It didn't make a State of the Nation. I don't

1326
01:01:47,653 --> 01:01:48,733
Speaker 2: see anything anything.

1327
01:01:48,533 --> 01:01:50,733
Speaker 4: Time to crack down on fireworks.

1328
01:01:50,733 --> 01:01:54,093
Speaker 2: Nothing, I'm cracking down on animal abuse. See, just flicking

1329
01:01:54,093 --> 01:01:55,173
Speaker 2: through the speech.

1330
01:01:55,133 --> 01:01:57,093
Speaker 4: So you might you might be out of luck for now,

1331
01:01:57,173 --> 01:02:00,773
Speaker 4: dear text, but you never know. It's another potentially eight

1332
01:02:00,813 --> 01:02:03,173
Speaker 4: months or so, or maybe longer until the election. But oh,

1333
01:02:03,253 --> 01:02:05,013
Speaker 4: one hundred and eighty ten eighty he was more.

1334
01:02:05,053 --> 01:02:07,773
Speaker 2: Inflation has fallen from over seven percent to three percent

1335
01:02:07,813 --> 01:02:10,773
Speaker 2: in straight have dropped in many households, reflecting from seven

1336
01:02:10,773 --> 01:02:12,573
Speaker 2: percent to four percent. More kind of that kind of thing.

1337
01:02:12,653 --> 01:02:14,413
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a bit more stable ground I think.

1338
01:02:14,373 --> 01:02:17,093
Speaker 2: For the ADP, growth has been driven by manufacturing experts,

1339
01:02:17,093 --> 01:02:20,733
Speaker 2: business investment, not housing speculations. So fireworks didn't come into

1340
01:02:20,773 --> 01:02:21,213
Speaker 2: that chat.

1341
01:02:21,933 --> 01:02:23,333
Speaker 4: Treva, how are you this afternoon?

1342
01:02:23,973 --> 01:02:24,573
Speaker 6: Are you guys.

1343
01:02:24,613 --> 01:02:26,533
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, very good. So what do you reckon?

1344
01:02:27,253 --> 01:02:29,173
Speaker 6: Well, I think that once again it's going to be

1345
01:02:29,293 --> 01:02:32,093
Speaker 6: coalition partners and a couple of things on that. I mean,

1346
01:02:32,173 --> 01:02:34,453
Speaker 6: I do say this quite regularly. I just hope just

1347
01:02:34,493 --> 01:02:37,933
Speaker 6: Sinder doing sends Winston a thank you card at least

1348
01:02:37,933 --> 01:02:40,653
Speaker 6: fun to year, because if it wasn't for Winston, we

1349
01:02:40,693 --> 01:02:42,773
Speaker 6: wouldn't have got to Sunder and the woke world and

1350
01:02:42,813 --> 01:02:46,973
Speaker 6: have got to Cinder, probably because in twenty seventeen National

1351
01:02:47,093 --> 01:02:50,453
Speaker 6: won the most seats and it was generally accepted Winston

1352
01:02:50,573 --> 01:02:52,813
Speaker 6: was going to go for them. Then he shocked everybody

1353
01:02:52,853 --> 01:02:55,653
Speaker 6: by putting the country voted right and went and put

1354
01:02:55,653 --> 01:02:56,533
Speaker 6: a left party in.

1355
01:02:56,853 --> 01:02:58,253
Speaker 4: Did you see him doing that again, Trevor?

1356
01:02:59,013 --> 01:02:59,533
Speaker 15: Wow?

1357
01:03:00,493 --> 01:03:00,853
Speaker 22: Why not?

1358
01:03:01,013 --> 01:03:02,733
Speaker 6: That's the real problem. He said, you won't.

1359
01:03:02,773 --> 01:03:04,773
Speaker 5: But why not because a lot of people.

1360
01:03:04,493 --> 01:03:06,693
Speaker 6: Were shocked that he did. He didn't have a bit

1361
01:03:06,693 --> 01:03:08,173
Speaker 6: of a reason, I suppose. I mean, he didn't tell

1362
01:03:08,533 --> 01:03:11,573
Speaker 6: for that election that he was taking some National MP's

1363
01:03:11,653 --> 01:03:14,213
Speaker 6: to court because of he said they lead some of

1364
01:03:14,253 --> 01:03:18,613
Speaker 6: his timement policy. But anyway, so as I say, I mean,

1365
01:03:18,733 --> 01:03:20,853
Speaker 6: as I say, I just hope to Sinda keeps in

1366
01:03:20,893 --> 01:03:23,453
Speaker 6: touch with him because she wouldn't be doing what she's

1367
01:03:23,493 --> 01:03:25,853
Speaker 6: doing now if it wasn't for Winston, you know. And

1368
01:03:25,973 --> 01:03:29,693
Speaker 6: also on coalitions, you know, if we criticize Chris Lucktin,

1369
01:03:30,053 --> 01:03:33,973
Speaker 6: we have to congratulate them on keeping this coalition of

1370
01:03:34,053 --> 01:03:37,733
Speaker 6: three parties together and seems to be working pretty well

1371
01:03:37,773 --> 01:03:42,013
Speaker 6: because the other two leaders in the coalition are pretty staunch,

1372
01:03:42,453 --> 01:03:46,053
Speaker 6: single minded, strong talking people, and they have her little

1373
01:03:46,053 --> 01:03:49,213
Speaker 6: personal digits of each other, but they're still professional enough

1374
01:03:49,253 --> 01:03:52,213
Speaker 6: to you know, carry on with the job that they

1375
01:03:52,213 --> 01:03:55,253
Speaker 6: were given in the last election. So yeah, so I'd

1376
01:03:55,253 --> 01:03:57,453
Speaker 6: say you have to give it a Christopher, the Christopher

1377
01:03:57,533 --> 01:03:58,093
Speaker 6: Lucton for that.

1378
01:03:58,533 --> 01:04:00,893
Speaker 2: I mean, people forget what a basket case National was

1379
01:04:01,533 --> 01:04:03,533
Speaker 2: at night before lucks And came in, he had there's

1380
01:04:03,653 --> 01:04:07,893
Speaker 2: fighting factions, there were leaks absolutely everywhere. So before they

1381
01:04:07,933 --> 01:04:11,373
Speaker 2: could even and move forward, that had to be steadied up.

1382
01:04:11,413 --> 01:04:13,573
Speaker 2: The whole the whole organization need to be studied up.

1383
01:04:13,613 --> 01:04:16,413
Speaker 2: And whether you whether you like or support National or not,

1384
01:04:16,493 --> 01:04:19,053
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone can deny that he's sorted out there.

1385
01:04:19,093 --> 01:04:20,333
Speaker 2: You know, he righted the ship.

1386
01:04:21,213 --> 01:04:24,933
Speaker 6: Just one other thing, talking about coalitions, maybe the future one,

1387
01:04:25,093 --> 01:04:27,813
Speaker 6: I mean people monted this one, but I mean let's

1388
01:04:27,813 --> 01:04:29,773
Speaker 6: face it, there's going to be a very good chance

1389
01:04:30,293 --> 01:04:33,213
Speaker 6: if Labor do get into power, it will be worth

1390
01:04:33,453 --> 01:04:35,573
Speaker 6: it could be and it's a good chance, but it'll

1391
01:04:35,613 --> 01:04:38,373
Speaker 6: be with the Green and to party Marry and look,

1392
01:04:38,413 --> 01:04:40,573
Speaker 6: I just want to remind people, you know, how staunch

1393
01:04:40,613 --> 01:04:43,093
Speaker 6: will the Greens be. I mean, you know, we want

1394
01:04:43,133 --> 01:04:46,413
Speaker 6: Tabitha Paul to be the Minister Police. She defunds the police,

1395
01:04:47,053 --> 01:04:48,773
Speaker 6: she won't have a job then. But you know their

1396
01:04:48,853 --> 01:04:54,173
Speaker 6: theory is that the fund the police. The Greens policy

1397
01:04:54,413 --> 01:04:57,053
Speaker 6: is that everybody on a benefit should be given two

1398
01:04:57,173 --> 01:05:00,733
Speaker 6: hundred and fifty dollars straight away every week, so they're

1399
01:05:00,773 --> 01:05:01,653
Speaker 6: on a Liverpool wage.

1400
01:05:01,693 --> 01:05:02,373
Speaker 12: So this is what.

1401
01:05:02,293 --> 01:05:04,973
Speaker 6: People have to think about. What will the Green's bottom

1402
01:05:04,973 --> 01:05:05,333
Speaker 6: line be.

1403
01:05:05,933 --> 01:05:10,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting actually because you know that you know,

1404
01:05:10,093 --> 01:05:12,493
Speaker 2: the coalition of Chaos attack hasn't really worked, has it,

1405
01:05:12,733 --> 01:05:16,533
Speaker 2: because they keep saying coalition of chaos, coalition of chaos,

1406
01:05:16,573 --> 01:05:19,693
Speaker 2: coalition of chaos, but you know they can't point to

1407
01:05:19,773 --> 01:05:23,413
Speaker 2: their potential coalition as not being a coalition of chaos.

1408
01:05:23,893 --> 01:05:26,453
Speaker 4: Trevor, thank you very much for your point on that.

1409
01:05:26,653 --> 01:05:28,653
Speaker 4: I think just on the coalition they're going to have

1410
01:05:28,773 --> 01:05:31,093
Speaker 4: to whether it's Labor or National. I think National being

1411
01:05:31,093 --> 01:05:32,853
Speaker 4: pretty clear on who they can and can't work with,

1412
01:05:33,013 --> 01:05:34,493
Speaker 4: But Labor's going to have to right, They're going to

1413
01:05:34,573 --> 01:05:35,813
Speaker 4: have to put a line in the sand when it

1414
01:05:35,813 --> 01:05:38,493
Speaker 4: comes to the Pati Mario I No. Chris Hipkins had

1415
01:05:38,533 --> 01:05:41,533
Speaker 4: some stronger language at the end of last year saying

1416
01:05:41,573 --> 01:05:43,813
Speaker 4: that they are not ready for government. Didn't quite rule

1417
01:05:43,893 --> 01:05:46,453
Speaker 4: them out. But then the Green Party, I mean, certainly

1418
01:05:46,493 --> 01:05:48,493
Speaker 4: they need the Greens, but he's going to have to

1419
01:05:48,613 --> 01:05:50,613
Speaker 4: take a stand and say, yes, we're going to form

1420
01:05:50,613 --> 01:05:52,053
Speaker 4: a coalition with the Greens. Are we going to work

1421
01:05:52,053 --> 01:05:53,253
Speaker 4: with the Greens or we're not going to work with

1422
01:05:53,293 --> 01:05:53,653
Speaker 4: the Greens.

1423
01:05:53,693 --> 01:05:57,733
Speaker 2: Can we really imagine a situation though, where as we

1424
01:05:57,813 --> 01:06:01,653
Speaker 2: had in twenty seventeen when Bill English and his National

1425
01:06:01,653 --> 01:06:06,653
Speaker 2: Party got the most votes and then Winston decided to

1426
01:06:06,653 --> 01:06:08,973
Speaker 2: go with Labor. Can can you imagine this situation like that?

1427
01:06:09,053 --> 01:06:10,893
Speaker 2: Surely Winston wouldn't do that.

1428
01:06:10,853 --> 01:06:13,613
Speaker 4: Again, you say that now you just never know with

1429
01:06:13,693 --> 01:06:16,613
Speaker 4: Winston Peters Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty love to

1430
01:06:16,653 --> 01:06:19,013
Speaker 4: hear from you. What are you hoping to see from

1431
01:06:19,053 --> 01:06:23,213
Speaker 4: either of the big parties this election season? And when

1432
01:06:23,253 --> 01:06:25,133
Speaker 4: it comes to policies, what should be announced.

1433
01:06:25,173 --> 01:06:27,773
Speaker 2: Well, this person wants harsher penalties for meth dealers, reduce

1434
01:06:27,813 --> 01:06:30,533
Speaker 2: food prices, better mental health services, the listers endless.

1435
01:06:30,613 --> 01:06:30,813
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1436
01:06:30,813 --> 01:06:32,653
Speaker 4: Oh, eight one hundred and eighty ten eighties. That number

1437
01:06:32,653 --> 01:06:35,013
Speaker 4: are called twenty two three.

1438
01:06:35,293 --> 01:06:38,853
Speaker 1: Matt Heath Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight hundred

1439
01:06:38,933 --> 01:06:42,253
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons

1440
01:06:42,413 --> 01:06:42,973
Speaker 1: news talks.

1441
01:06:42,973 --> 01:06:45,013
Speaker 4: They'd be it is eighteen to three.

1442
01:06:45,213 --> 01:06:48,573
Speaker 2: The Sexy says, rubbish, your Muppets National wouldn't work with

1443
01:06:48,573 --> 01:06:51,093
Speaker 2: Winston Peters. Get your facts right. That's not what happened

1444
01:06:51,093 --> 01:06:54,733
Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen. Bill English wasn't as willing to give

1445
01:06:54,773 --> 01:06:59,493
Speaker 2: as much like the as much as the as Label

1446
01:06:59,493 --> 01:07:01,533
Speaker 2: were willing to give. Yeah, Winston Peters, I think when

1447
01:07:01,573 --> 01:07:03,293
Speaker 2: we go back and look at it, that's what it basically.

1448
01:07:03,453 --> 01:07:04,853
Speaker 2: Labour said everything.

1449
01:07:05,053 --> 01:07:07,053
Speaker 4: Yep, we'll give you whatever you want, just as long

1450
01:07:07,053 --> 01:07:07,973
Speaker 4: as we within reason.

1451
01:07:07,773 --> 01:07:10,733
Speaker 2: As long as we can power. Yeah, yeah we're Bill

1452
01:07:10,773 --> 01:07:11,453
Speaker 2: English was like.

1453
01:07:11,613 --> 01:07:13,653
Speaker 4: No, no, you can't do that. Yeah, we've got the

1454
01:07:13,653 --> 01:07:15,693
Speaker 4: forty four percent here, Winston. But yeah, we all know

1455
01:07:15,733 --> 01:07:17,293
Speaker 4: how that went in the end. Oh one hundred and

1456
01:07:17,293 --> 01:07:19,413
Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty is the number to call boys.

1457
01:07:19,493 --> 01:07:21,933
Speaker 2: I'll be voting for one of the one of two

1458
01:07:22,013 --> 01:07:25,133
Speaker 2: of the coalition parties except Winston Peters. He has done

1459
01:07:25,133 --> 01:07:27,613
Speaker 2: a great job as a foreign Minister, but I don't

1460
01:07:27,613 --> 01:07:30,813
Speaker 2: trust him not to do a twenty seventeen again on

1461
01:07:30,853 --> 01:07:33,853
Speaker 2: some minor issue by national We have done too many

1462
01:07:33,893 --> 01:07:36,213
Speaker 2: hard yards to waste it all and put labor back.

1463
01:07:36,213 --> 01:07:37,453
Speaker 2: And that's from Alphy.

1464
01:07:37,933 --> 01:07:40,493
Speaker 4: Interesting pious, How.

1465
01:07:40,333 --> 01:07:42,053
Speaker 12: Are you a good things?

1466
01:07:42,173 --> 01:07:45,653
Speaker 4: It's a great name, by the way, Thank you. So,

1467
01:07:45,653 --> 01:07:49,093
Speaker 4: so you're in Wellington and what's what's the vibe like

1468
01:07:49,133 --> 01:07:51,453
Speaker 4: for you? Are you? Are you feeling some more positivity

1469
01:07:51,493 --> 01:07:52,013
Speaker 4: in Wellington?

1470
01:07:53,213 --> 01:07:53,453
Speaker 9: Well?

1471
01:07:53,493 --> 01:07:56,653
Speaker 12: To be honest, I think the ViBe's gone down there.

1472
01:07:56,733 --> 01:08:00,413
Speaker 12: Used to be look forward to Friday Bears after work,

1473
01:08:00,573 --> 01:08:04,293
Speaker 12: but now you kind of have to cut back on

1474
01:08:04,413 --> 01:08:07,813
Speaker 12: all those nice things. And you know, the vibe gets

1475
01:08:08,453 --> 01:08:10,093
Speaker 12: worse when you don't get to the stress.

1476
01:08:10,093 --> 01:08:13,493
Speaker 4: They yeah, And so what do you think that is?

1477
01:08:13,493 --> 01:08:15,253
Speaker 4: Is that? I mean, Matt, you mentioned you were down

1478
01:08:15,253 --> 01:08:17,133
Speaker 4: in Wellington and the vibe was pretty good where you

1479
01:08:17,213 --> 01:08:20,772
Speaker 4: were operating. But is this, you know, the contagian thing

1480
01:08:20,813 --> 01:08:22,492
Speaker 4: that if people are still feeling a bit blue and

1481
01:08:22,532 --> 01:08:25,053
Speaker 4: a bit negative that carries on, whereas you just need

1482
01:08:25,093 --> 01:08:26,652
Speaker 4: a bit of spark something there. I mean, you've got

1483
01:08:26,652 --> 01:08:29,532
Speaker 4: a new mayor, does that help helping well?

1484
01:08:30,293 --> 01:08:36,372
Speaker 12: I think that Wellington as a whole is They're resilient

1485
01:08:36,452 --> 01:08:40,732
Speaker 12: because of the weather and the window obviously, but you know,

1486
01:08:40,893 --> 01:08:44,812
Speaker 12: like lately, just like without having to have a bear

1487
01:08:44,893 --> 01:08:48,053
Speaker 12: after work and having the extra coin to put on

1488
01:08:48,133 --> 01:08:52,253
Speaker 12: other nice things, and it's there around the town. It's yeah,

1489
01:08:52,293 --> 01:08:54,892
Speaker 12: it's never seen it like this in my lifetime. In

1490
01:08:54,973 --> 01:08:58,732
Speaker 12: the CBD how well, the shops are just closing down

1491
01:08:58,732 --> 01:09:02,732
Speaker 12: and there's been a domino effect everywhere, even filters down

1492
01:09:02,772 --> 01:09:05,932
Speaker 12: to the trades and I'm in trade as myself. And

1493
01:09:06,933 --> 01:09:10,013
Speaker 12: as far as the political thing, I'm like all for

1494
01:09:10,293 --> 01:09:14,013
Speaker 12: like like here we ingenuity, Like why can't we like

1495
01:09:14,412 --> 01:09:17,053
Speaker 12: we come from a good line of inventors like the

1496
01:09:17,093 --> 01:09:21,133
Speaker 12: Pretendia bike and McLaren and whatnot, why can't we make

1497
01:09:21,253 --> 01:09:25,932
Speaker 12: up our own democracy, like like think of something outside

1498
01:09:25,933 --> 01:09:30,453
Speaker 12: the box that's more better, more fairer, that makes minister's

1499
01:09:30,532 --> 01:09:34,692
Speaker 12: answer for promises they break and things like that. You know,

1500
01:09:34,772 --> 01:09:36,133
Speaker 12: that is what I'm would do.

1501
01:09:36,293 --> 01:09:39,412
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, interesting, thank you for your care pise yeah,

1502
01:09:39,452 --> 01:09:43,372
Speaker 2: I mean rewriting the entire democracy might be a difficult

1503
01:09:43,372 --> 01:09:44,532
Speaker 2: one to do before November.

1504
01:09:44,812 --> 01:09:47,213
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a big job. That does a very big job.

1505
01:09:47,293 --> 01:09:51,173
Speaker 2: Although we are looking at the four year term being

1506
01:09:51,452 --> 01:09:53,213
Speaker 2: part of the election, aren't we. Oh yeah, correct them

1507
01:09:53,213 --> 01:09:53,372
Speaker 2: on that.

1508
01:09:53,492 --> 01:09:55,293
Speaker 4: Yep, I believe, and I think most people would be

1509
01:09:55,293 --> 01:09:58,253
Speaker 4: in favor of that. Nineteen ninety two is the text number.

1510
01:09:58,333 --> 01:09:59,452
Speaker 4: Love to you from you though on our eight one

1511
01:09:59,492 --> 01:10:01,852
Speaker 4: hundred and eighty ten eighty. What is the big priority

1512
01:10:01,893 --> 01:10:03,852
Speaker 4: for you heading into the election year? What do you

1513
01:10:03,853 --> 01:10:05,172
Speaker 4: want to see from the big parties?

1514
01:10:05,293 --> 01:10:08,773
Speaker 2: The six this afternoon, you young boomers.

1515
01:10:08,933 --> 01:10:09,372
Speaker 4: I kind of.

1516
01:10:09,372 --> 01:10:12,372
Speaker 2: Stopped listening to people when they bring up a deern. Now,

1517
01:10:13,053 --> 01:10:15,973
Speaker 2: can National supports stick to what National is doing or do?

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Speaker 2: I'm sick of the winging about others. Let's just hear

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Speaker 2: what your party will do and not what others might do.

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01:10:22,772 --> 01:10:25,972
Speaker 2: Matt Well, that is interesting actually, because Ethan did say

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01:10:26,173 --> 01:10:29,932
Speaker 2: in Christopher Luxen's State of the Nation's speech he didn't

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01:10:29,973 --> 01:10:32,972
Speaker 2: mention labor nearly as much as he had in the past.

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01:10:33,053 --> 01:10:36,932
Speaker 4: Yeah, which good. It's fantastic because I think most people

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01:10:36,973 --> 01:10:39,213
Speaker 4: out there, when you start blaming the other guys for

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01:10:39,293 --> 01:10:41,572
Speaker 4: too long. People get a bit tight of that. It's

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01:10:41,572 --> 01:10:43,852
Speaker 4: time to start actually looking ahead on what you can deliver.

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01:10:43,893 --> 01:10:46,132
Speaker 4: And it seems in the State of a Nation speech

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01:10:46,173 --> 01:10:49,412
Speaker 4: you just delivered, they're looking to do just there. Oh eight,

1529
01:10:49,412 --> 01:10:51,732
Speaker 4: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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01:10:52,093 --> 01:10:54,372
Speaker 4: Let's have a chat to ray, get a ray. How

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01:10:54,412 --> 01:10:56,412
Speaker 4: do you feel about the year ahead?

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Speaker 3: Matt A.

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01:10:58,412 --> 01:11:01,172
Speaker 9: Tyler. First of all, congratulations, I'm getting engaged.

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01:11:01,173 --> 01:11:02,052
Speaker 12: There's awesome news.

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01:11:02,133 --> 01:11:03,452
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you.

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01:11:04,133 --> 01:11:04,293
Speaker 12: Hey.

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Speaker 9: So I reckon politically, I reckon. The vibe is pretty good.

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01:11:07,612 --> 01:11:10,173
Speaker 9: Like I think a lot of the films actually doing better,

1539
01:11:10,652 --> 01:11:12,972
Speaker 9: doing well on things are not too tough for them.

1540
01:11:13,732 --> 01:11:15,772
Speaker 9: Two things that I'd really like to see from the

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01:11:15,812 --> 01:11:19,012
Speaker 9: elections this year. One I'd like to see whence Peter's

1542
01:11:19,053 --> 01:11:21,892
Speaker 9: actually commits to being part of the coalition. He's been

1543
01:11:21,933 --> 01:11:24,532
Speaker 9: part of the coalition coalition for the past three years,

1544
01:11:24,732 --> 01:11:28,213
Speaker 9: he's been the deputy Prime Minister. He actually needs for

1545
01:11:28,293 --> 01:11:30,173
Speaker 9: a line on the grounds I have caused I'm going

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01:11:30,253 --> 01:11:33,452
Speaker 9: with national and act. Of course, I'm not going to

1547
01:11:33,492 --> 01:11:35,932
Speaker 9: go with the pilleral Left. I'd like to see him

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01:11:35,933 --> 01:11:38,572
Speaker 9: for line on the ground and state that clearly.

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01:11:39,293 --> 01:11:41,693
Speaker 2: So he said. All he said is that he will

1550
01:11:41,772 --> 01:11:45,412
Speaker 2: not go into he thinks Chris, sorry, Chris Hopkins is

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01:11:45,452 --> 01:11:48,372
Speaker 2: a liar. Hopkins is a liar, and he won't go

1552
01:11:48,452 --> 01:11:51,612
Speaker 2: into a coalition with Hipkins. But I think, I think,

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01:11:51,612 --> 01:11:54,732
Speaker 2: I think Hopkins is Hopkins is locked in for the election.

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01:11:54,853 --> 01:11:56,812
Speaker 4: I seems pretty secure because Labor.

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01:11:57,933 --> 01:12:01,372
Speaker 2: Labor's polling quite well, so I don't think Hopkins is

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01:12:01,412 --> 01:12:04,173
Speaker 2: in trouble there. But then again, you know, as we

1557
01:12:04,173 --> 01:12:06,732
Speaker 2: were saying before Ray, you can mention the situation where

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01:12:06,933 --> 01:12:09,893
Speaker 2: in part of the negotiation it's contest to go like

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01:12:09,933 --> 01:12:11,612
Speaker 2: there's always a way you can spin it where we

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01:12:11,652 --> 01:12:12,173
Speaker 2: could do it.

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01:12:12,973 --> 01:12:16,213
Speaker 9: That's I'd really want one some paters to be clear

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01:12:16,293 --> 01:12:18,412
Speaker 9: with the public about who he'll go with, and it's

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01:12:18,452 --> 01:12:21,572
Speaker 9: got to be National and Act. I think the second

1564
01:12:21,572 --> 01:12:23,133
Speaker 9: thing I'd like to see, which I haven't seen anyone

1565
01:12:23,173 --> 01:12:27,093
Speaker 9: talking about, is I was like to know the positions

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01:12:27,173 --> 01:12:31,492
Speaker 9: of National Act and Zarmfirs on immigration. Now a n

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01:12:31,572 --> 01:12:34,293
Speaker 9: anti immigration. I think immigration is a good thing, but

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01:12:34,933 --> 01:12:37,573
Speaker 9: I think we need to get immigrants from all countries,

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01:12:37,893 --> 01:12:41,932
Speaker 9: not just from China and India, like, in my opinion,

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01:12:42,093 --> 01:12:43,932
Speaker 9: we need I want to know how how is only

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01:12:43,973 --> 01:12:47,293
Speaker 9: going to get the high value immigrants from from America,

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01:12:47,532 --> 01:12:51,133
Speaker 9: from Canada, from Europe, from Australia. How are we going

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01:12:51,173 --> 01:12:53,412
Speaker 9: to attract those people can do on? That's what I'd

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01:12:53,412 --> 01:12:57,012
Speaker 9: love to know. I'd love to hear a political party

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01:12:57,093 --> 01:13:02,932
Speaker 9: say we recognize that New Zealand is a country based

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01:13:02,933 --> 01:13:06,372
Speaker 9: on Anglo Saxon valleys, and we want to attract a

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01:13:06,532 --> 01:13:09,133
Speaker 9: range of immigrants, but we also want to pull them

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01:13:09,133 --> 01:13:13,372
Speaker 9: from countries very similar things on such as America, Australia,

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01:13:13,893 --> 01:13:18,253
Speaker 9: Europe and Canada. Like I concerns me that we're only

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01:13:18,293 --> 01:13:21,333
Speaker 9: getting immigration from our cold countries. And as said, I'm

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01:13:21,372 --> 01:13:24,573
Speaker 9: not anti immigration. I would just like to see immigration

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01:13:24,652 --> 01:13:29,412
Speaker 9: from all countries who would have similar values to New Zealand.

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01:13:29,812 --> 01:13:32,293
Speaker 2: It's interesting for me. I see a lot of I

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01:13:32,532 --> 01:13:34,333
Speaker 2: need to bring the stats up, but I think we

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01:13:34,412 --> 01:13:37,132
Speaker 2: still get a lot. I mean, if we'll take people

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01:13:37,173 --> 01:13:39,612
Speaker 2: from anywhere, we're not ruling out any particular countries that

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01:13:39,652 --> 01:13:43,253
Speaker 2: I know of. Yeah, so really, if you know, And

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01:13:43,692 --> 01:13:46,333
Speaker 2: when I'm around meeting people, and maybe these are just

1589
01:13:46,372 --> 01:13:48,293
Speaker 2: the circles that I operate in, but I run into

1590
01:13:48,333 --> 01:13:50,772
Speaker 2: a lot of people that have migrated here from Great Britain.

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01:13:51,412 --> 01:13:55,612
Speaker 2: So I think it goes Indian, Philippines, China and Great

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01:13:55,652 --> 01:13:56,692
Speaker 2: Britain's up there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but how do you I mean, you've got to

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01:14:00,652 --> 01:14:02,692
Speaker 4: be competiti off on the global stage, right. If you

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01:14:02,732 --> 01:14:07,932
Speaker 4: want the high value migrants from whatever country, you've got

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01:14:07,973 --> 01:14:09,213
Speaker 4: to give them some good offers. And I think the

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01:14:09,253 --> 01:14:11,293
Speaker 4: Golden Visa goes some way to get the very wealthy

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01:14:11,293 --> 01:14:13,612
Speaker 4: individuals here. But also you're going to be competitive as

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01:14:13,612 --> 01:14:15,692
Speaker 4: a country because you know, there's a lot of options

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01:14:15,692 --> 01:14:16,612
Speaker 4: for those people out there.

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01:14:17,333 --> 01:14:20,213
Speaker 9: You know, you know which country these are needs to

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01:14:20,253 --> 01:14:25,412
Speaker 9: be like Ireland, Ireland or Singapore, Like both those countries

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01:14:25,452 --> 01:14:27,932
Speaker 9: made as ill was really attractive for business to come

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01:14:28,013 --> 01:14:30,852
Speaker 9: to there. You think about lecal new premier from Singapore

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01:14:30,933 --> 01:14:35,133
Speaker 9: turns Singapore around within a generation. Like this is above

1606
01:14:35,213 --> 01:14:38,652
Speaker 9: my pay grade, But I'd love to see politians go, Okay,

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01:14:38,692 --> 01:14:40,093
Speaker 9: well this is how we make and he's on an

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01:14:40,093 --> 01:14:42,772
Speaker 9: attracts of place for people to come to because we've

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01:14:42,772 --> 01:14:46,892
Speaker 9: got this beautiful, peaceful country. But is it the place

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01:14:46,933 --> 01:14:49,333
Speaker 9: you would want to go if you had the options

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01:14:49,333 --> 01:14:53,772
Speaker 9: of Australia, America, Canada, Europe? Maybe, But like, what can

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01:14:53,812 --> 01:14:56,772
Speaker 9: we do to really make ourselves attractive as a country

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01:14:56,812 --> 01:14:59,653
Speaker 9: to get over those high value immigrants.

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01:15:00,853 --> 01:15:03,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you I saw this interesting thing from Jimmy Carr.

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01:15:03,213 --> 01:15:05,732
Speaker 2: You know, the comedian's actually a deep thinker, and he

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01:15:05,893 --> 01:15:07,812
Speaker 2: was he was talking about high value. He's talking about

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01:15:07,812 --> 01:15:09,892
Speaker 2: Great Britain, saying that they're always talk about getting higher

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01:15:09,933 --> 01:15:12,412
Speaker 2: value immigrants there. But he were saying, isn't it kind

1619
01:15:12,412 --> 01:15:15,253
Speaker 2: of a failure when you have failed to train your

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01:15:15,293 --> 01:15:19,692
Speaker 2: people in your own country to do these jobs? Say

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01:15:19,732 --> 01:15:23,372
Speaker 2: you take it? So he was saying that you take doctors.

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01:15:23,412 --> 01:15:25,972
Speaker 2: We always say we don't have enough doctors, but why

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01:15:26,013 --> 01:15:27,253
Speaker 2: aren't we training enough doctors.

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01:15:27,333 --> 01:15:29,852
Speaker 4: It's a good point because if you just rely on

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01:15:29,893 --> 01:15:33,053
Speaker 4: importing good doctors and that's not a sustainable change the.

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01:15:33,013 --> 01:15:34,932
Speaker 2: System such that we have a lot of doctors that

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01:15:34,973 --> 01:15:37,612
Speaker 2: we train here. Yeah, hey, thanks you, thank you. Cool.

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01:15:37,692 --> 01:15:40,572
Speaker 2: Ray appreciate it. Oh no, you go sorry, Ray, Sorry.

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Speaker 15: Ray.

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Speaker 9: One more point. I was like, what we know in

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01:15:42,812 --> 01:15:45,412
Speaker 9: your tell is that the one of the fastest growing

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01:15:45,452 --> 01:15:50,972
Speaker 9: populations are maray. So in my twenty fifty about about

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01:15:51,372 --> 01:15:54,253
Speaker 9: a third of the population run fifteen percent will be married.

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01:15:54,293 --> 01:15:57,492
Speaker 9: So what I would love to see from political parties

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01:15:57,572 --> 01:16:00,612
Speaker 9: is how are going to ensure that Mary is get

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01:16:00,652 --> 01:16:03,492
Speaker 9: into the positions where they can be doctors, lawyers, where

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01:16:03,492 --> 01:16:05,492
Speaker 9: we can make sure they're taking going into all those

1638
01:16:05,893 --> 01:16:08,812
Speaker 9: high paying jobs like i'd really love to see.

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01:16:09,013 --> 01:16:13,813
Speaker 2: Well we have, you know, Tiger University for example, there's pathways.

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01:16:14,893 --> 01:16:18,093
Speaker 2: You know. I've got a kid I was talking to

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01:16:18,173 --> 01:16:23,652
Speaker 2: recently who has has marks were incredibly high. He's of

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01:16:23,732 --> 01:16:28,173
Speaker 2: Chinese ancestry, but Kiwi and he didn't get into med

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01:16:28,213 --> 01:16:31,293
Speaker 2: school because med school does have pathways for Maori and

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01:16:31,293 --> 01:16:34,452
Speaker 2: Pacifica that are different from the pathways from from for

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01:16:34,492 --> 01:16:38,893
Speaker 2: everyone else. Yeah sure, yeah, all right, Hey, thank you

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01:16:38,933 --> 01:16:39,532
Speaker 2: for you cool ray.

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01:16:39,652 --> 01:16:40,812
Speaker 4: Interesting points are.

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01:16:42,293 --> 01:16:46,812
Speaker 2: The Philippines. So this is the rivals goes Philippines. Oh hang,

1649
01:16:47,692 --> 01:16:50,572
Speaker 2: migrant arrivals. Okay, so we get a lot of people

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01:16:50,612 --> 01:16:56,933
Speaker 2: from the Philippines, China, Fiji, South Africa, United Kingdom, Sri Lanka, Vietnam.

1651
01:16:57,213 --> 01:16:59,532
Speaker 2: So those are the biggest places that people come from

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01:16:59,893 --> 01:17:00,412
Speaker 2: to New Zealand.

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01:17:00,532 --> 01:17:03,292
Speaker 4: I mean, if you want to go for US migrants

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01:17:03,333 --> 01:17:05,612
Speaker 4: to this country, it's competitives though, right They've got a

1655
01:17:05,652 --> 01:17:07,532
Speaker 4: lot of options. They could go to Canada, they could

1656
01:17:07,532 --> 01:17:09,692
Speaker 4: go to the UK, they can go to Ireland, and

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01:17:09,732 --> 01:17:11,452
Speaker 4: I think you've just got to be a competitive country,

1658
01:17:11,452 --> 01:17:13,652
Speaker 4: to say you can come here and do what you

1659
01:17:13,692 --> 01:17:16,532
Speaker 4: need to do, and start saying use a bit more.

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01:17:16,532 --> 01:17:18,412
Speaker 4: Maybe oh e one hundred and eighty ten eighty is

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01:17:18,452 --> 01:17:20,133
Speaker 4: the number to call. Got to take a quick break,

1662
01:17:20,133 --> 01:17:22,093
Speaker 4: meet very shortly. It is seven to three.

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Speaker 1: The issues that affect you, and a bit of fun

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01:17:25,452 --> 01:17:29,333
Speaker 1: along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons news talks.

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Speaker 7: They'd be.

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Speaker 4: Afternoon to you. It is five to three.

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01:17:34,333 --> 01:17:37,213
Speaker 2: Well, Chrish Luxen has delivered a State of the Nation's speech.

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01:17:37,293 --> 01:17:39,652
Speaker 2: I've been reading through it while I can get from it,

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01:17:39,732 --> 01:17:42,932
Speaker 2: he says. The says inflation is down from seven percent

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01:17:42,973 --> 01:17:45,772
Speaker 2: to around three percent, interest rates are easy, and confidence

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01:17:45,812 --> 01:17:49,572
Speaker 2: and construction are rebounding. Says the government has delivered eleven

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01:17:49,612 --> 01:17:52,772
Speaker 2: billion a year in savings while keeping a path back

1673
01:17:52,812 --> 01:17:56,932
Speaker 2: to surplus at some point. Lux and records. Educational reforms

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01:17:56,933 --> 01:18:00,612
Speaker 2: have lifted literacy results, with phonics achievements from thirty six

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01:18:00,652 --> 01:18:04,293
Speaker 2: to fifty eight percent. Tougher policing has cut violent crime

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01:18:04,652 --> 01:18:08,492
Speaker 2: statistics down eighty five percent, less ram raids apparently up.

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01:18:08,572 --> 01:18:12,013
Speaker 2: He argues these games, along with stronger trade deals and

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01:18:12,133 --> 01:18:16,293
Speaker 2: reforms to Kiwi saver and NCA and planning roles. I

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01:18:16,293 --> 01:18:18,612
Speaker 2: mean New Zealanders. New Zealand is in a strong position

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01:18:19,492 --> 01:18:21,572
Speaker 2: and better set up for hire income some jobs in

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01:18:21,572 --> 01:18:22,812
Speaker 2: the future. So what do you reckon?

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01:18:22,933 --> 01:18:23,173
Speaker 12: Yeah?

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01:18:23,173 --> 01:18:24,532
Speaker 2: Has he done enough to get your vote?

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01:18:24,732 --> 01:18:27,013
Speaker 4: So eleven months give or take into the election, so

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01:18:27,053 --> 01:18:29,372
Speaker 4: it is going to be a big Yeah, that's for sure.

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01:18:29,572 --> 01:18:32,372
Speaker 2: Well, you know there's only one poll that counts, Tyler.

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01:18:32,572 --> 01:18:34,092
Speaker 2: That's that's the one in November.

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01:18:34,173 --> 01:18:37,293
Speaker 4: Yeah, beautifully said right. Coming up after three o'clock, I

1689
01:18:37,372 --> 01:18:39,772
Speaker 4: want to have chats about rings. As I mentioned before,

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01:18:39,973 --> 01:18:42,572
Speaker 4: after ten years, I finally dropped the knee and proposed

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01:18:42,572 --> 01:18:45,652
Speaker 4: to my lovely fiance May. But I've gone for what

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01:18:45,692 --> 01:18:48,093
Speaker 4: they call a placeholder ring and there's been some raised

1693
01:18:48,093 --> 01:18:51,372
Speaker 4: eyebrows about that. But also want to ask about lab

1694
01:18:51,412 --> 01:18:53,492
Speaker 4: grow and diamonds. Does that make me cheap if I

1695
01:18:53,572 --> 01:18:55,213
Speaker 4: want to lab grown diamond That's next.

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Speaker 1: You're on New Home for Insightful and Entertaining Talk. It's

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01:19:02,772 --> 01:19:09,013
Speaker 1: Mattie and Taylor Adams afternoons on news Talk sebby very Afternoons.

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01:19:09,053 --> 01:19:12,293
Speaker 4: You welcome back into the show. There's six past three

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01:19:12,372 --> 01:19:15,732
Speaker 4: greats of your company as always and lovely to be back.

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01:19:16,093 --> 01:19:20,772
Speaker 2: Now, Tyler, over the break you, I'll just get straight

1701
01:19:20,812 --> 01:19:21,053
Speaker 2: to it.

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01:19:21,372 --> 01:19:25,093
Speaker 4: You dropped a knee, dropped a knee, proposed and made

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01:19:25,133 --> 01:19:28,053
Speaker 4: an honest woman out of me mine, now, fiance, can

1704
01:19:28,093 --> 01:19:31,053
Speaker 4: you still say that I might get canceled for that?

1705
01:19:32,013 --> 01:19:33,173
Speaker 4: You know, it just rolls off the tongue.

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01:19:33,253 --> 01:19:35,133
Speaker 2: Nice you would have said, Actually, mean you made an

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01:19:35,173 --> 01:19:35,652
Speaker 2: honest woman.

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01:19:36,093 --> 01:19:37,772
Speaker 4: Have a google and go back in history. You made

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01:19:37,772 --> 01:19:39,372
Speaker 4: an honest woman. I saw you.

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01:19:39,772 --> 01:19:43,052
Speaker 2: So what you're saying is that you, guys, you haven't

1711
01:19:43,173 --> 01:19:43,812
Speaker 2: laid with her.

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01:19:45,133 --> 01:19:47,492
Speaker 4: That's the traditional sense of it. Yeah, yeah, I'll leave

1713
01:19:47,492 --> 01:19:49,612
Speaker 4: it to I mean, we've been together ten years, so

1714
01:19:49,652 --> 01:19:53,133
Speaker 4: if that was the case, I wouldn't be doing well

1715
01:19:53,173 --> 01:19:58,972
Speaker 4: in life. The chat's gone off piece as gone off piece.

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01:19:59,013 --> 01:20:01,492
Speaker 4: But yes, I dropped the knee. I proposed it up

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01:20:01,492 --> 01:20:03,372
Speaker 4: on the Bay of Islands, and if I do say

1718
01:20:03,412 --> 01:20:08,053
Speaker 4: so myself, it all went off pretty smoothly. But the

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01:20:09,133 --> 01:20:12,692
Speaker 4: I went for what they call a placeholder ring, And

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01:20:12,973 --> 01:20:15,213
Speaker 4: what that effectively is is that I went for a

1721
01:20:15,253 --> 01:20:17,812
Speaker 4: budget option ring that looks nice when you take a

1722
01:20:17,853 --> 01:20:19,772
Speaker 4: photo of it, because that's you know, we've got to

1723
01:20:19,772 --> 01:20:21,652
Speaker 4: take a photo for social media and post it up.

1724
01:20:22,933 --> 01:20:25,013
Speaker 4: But when I mentioned that to the auntie. So the

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01:20:25,053 --> 01:20:27,572
Speaker 4: idea behind the placeholder you go cheap option. Then me

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01:20:27,692 --> 01:20:31,612
Speaker 4: and Mayve can go and select a ring that she

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01:20:31,732 --> 01:20:34,692
Speaker 4: would prefer herself instead of a numpty like me going

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01:20:34,732 --> 01:20:37,572
Speaker 4: out there making a design choice which I know I'm

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01:20:37,572 --> 01:20:39,812
Speaker 4: going to stuff up and she hates the ring, So

1730
01:20:39,893 --> 01:20:42,652
Speaker 4: this way she gets to pack the forever ring that

1731
01:20:42,692 --> 01:20:43,572
Speaker 4: she actually likes.

1732
01:20:43,933 --> 01:20:49,892
Speaker 2: But shouldn't the ring be a couple of things. A firstly,

1733
01:20:50,933 --> 01:20:53,412
Speaker 2: a show of how much money you're willing to spend

1734
01:20:53,412 --> 01:20:57,652
Speaker 2: on them. So you're saying the amount the value is

1735
01:20:57,652 --> 01:21:01,772
Speaker 2: equal to your love. So you'll say, here is my offer.

1736
01:21:02,532 --> 01:21:06,812
Speaker 2: My offer is for your hand, but this is how

1737
01:21:06,893 --> 01:21:08,973
Speaker 2: much I think it's worth. And so when you have

1738
01:21:08,973 --> 01:21:12,253
Speaker 2: a placeholder ring, you're saying it's worth whatever. Placeholder rings worth.

1739
01:21:12,173 --> 01:21:15,213
Speaker 4: Couple hundred bucks. Yeah.

1740
01:21:15,253 --> 01:21:18,852
Speaker 2: And secondly, it's just like any gift, it's a statement

1741
01:21:19,293 --> 01:21:22,612
Speaker 2: of what you believe in your heart. They will like

1742
01:21:22,732 --> 01:21:25,532
Speaker 2: in a demonstration of how much you know them. So

1743
01:21:26,053 --> 01:21:28,973
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Tyler, is that the placeholder ring is

1744
01:21:29,013 --> 01:21:33,572
Speaker 2: a cowards ring. Well, it's a cheap cowards ring. I

1745
01:21:33,572 --> 01:21:35,452
Speaker 2: don't take this the wrong way. I mean, why I

1746
01:21:35,532 --> 01:21:38,012
Speaker 2: shed a tear when when I when when I heard

1747
01:21:38,053 --> 01:21:42,013
Speaker 2: that you would finally drop the drop the question, did

1748
01:21:42,053 --> 01:21:43,132
Speaker 2: the knee dropped the knee.

1749
01:21:43,173 --> 01:21:45,652
Speaker 4: More emotional than I was. I was, yea, which is

1750
01:21:45,652 --> 01:21:46,173
Speaker 4: a nice thing.

1751
01:21:47,372 --> 01:21:49,253
Speaker 2: I thought it beautiful. But when you talk about this

1752
01:21:49,293 --> 01:21:51,492
Speaker 2: placeholder ring, like the two words that come to my

1753
01:21:51,532 --> 01:21:54,212
Speaker 2: mind is cheap and thoughtless.

1754
01:21:54,213 --> 01:21:58,973
Speaker 23: But well, but you bitted that because when I when

1755
01:21:59,013 --> 01:22:01,652
Speaker 23: I talked about the placeholder ring and maves Aunties, love

1756
01:22:01,732 --> 01:22:04,973
Speaker 23: Mave's Aunties, the phenomenal people, and and I've got a

1757
01:22:04,973 --> 01:22:07,932
Speaker 23: good eye for good stuff as well, but they kind

1758
01:22:07,933 --> 01:22:09,652
Speaker 23: of raise the eyebrow a little bit, and they said,

1759
01:22:09,692 --> 01:22:11,213
Speaker 23: and they were trying to be diplomatic, but I know

1760
01:22:11,253 --> 01:22:11,933
Speaker 23: what they were getting at.

1761
01:22:11,933 --> 01:22:13,812
Speaker 4: And they said, I've never heard of that before. Why,

1762
01:22:14,173 --> 01:22:17,892
Speaker 4: you know, most most people, most most men just gone

1763
01:22:17,893 --> 01:22:19,692
Speaker 4: by a lovely ring. And if it's not quite the

1764
01:22:19,732 --> 01:22:21,973
Speaker 4: right style, well that's okay because it's a show of

1765
01:22:22,492 --> 01:22:25,852
Speaker 4: your commitment long term. Start off with the real ring

1766
01:22:26,452 --> 01:22:29,212
Speaker 4: you die, you don't get a fake ring. First towdly

1767
01:22:29,452 --> 01:22:31,372
Speaker 4: and then go and pick the real thing.

1768
01:22:31,973 --> 01:22:34,932
Speaker 2: But just and so I one hundred and eighty ten eighty,

1769
01:22:35,612 --> 01:22:38,052
Speaker 2: let's talk about this. Let's take it to the Farnes

1770
01:22:38,213 --> 01:22:41,492
Speaker 2: please and the text machine, you know, because there's a

1771
01:22:41,532 --> 01:22:45,652
Speaker 2: huge amount of anxiety for a man asking a woman

1772
01:22:45,732 --> 01:22:47,572
Speaker 2: to marry them for a number of reasons, but one

1773
01:22:47,572 --> 01:22:49,532
Speaker 2: of them is that you're about to spend a lot

1774
01:22:49,532 --> 01:22:52,612
Speaker 2: of money on something. Yep, but you know that you

1775
01:22:52,652 --> 01:22:54,692
Speaker 2: don't have good a taste as they do, and you

1776
01:22:54,692 --> 01:22:56,812
Speaker 2: certainly don't know what they like as much as they

1777
01:22:56,933 --> 01:22:58,133
Speaker 2: like as you know. What I was saying before is

1778
01:22:58,173 --> 01:23:00,133
Speaker 2: maybe you should maybe you should know them well enough

1779
01:23:00,173 --> 01:23:03,772
Speaker 2: that you know exactly what particular ring they were like.

1780
01:23:03,973 --> 01:23:07,412
Speaker 2: But but isn't that Yeah, I'm not sure. I feel

1781
01:23:07,412 --> 01:23:08,053
Speaker 2: like it's part of it.

1782
01:23:08,412 --> 01:23:10,013
Speaker 4: Did I make the right wrong choice here with the

1783
01:23:10,013 --> 01:23:12,372
Speaker 4: old placeholder ring? Is that what you should do? Because

1784
01:23:12,412 --> 01:23:14,812
Speaker 4: I thought I'm being, you know, a modern man here,

1785
01:23:15,213 --> 01:23:17,772
Speaker 4: that it's not really up to me to be the

1786
01:23:17,772 --> 01:23:21,692
Speaker 4: patriarch and just to get something that's that's very blingy man,

1787
01:23:22,173 --> 01:23:24,852
Speaker 4: it's up to it's up to mave my fiance to

1788
01:23:24,893 --> 01:23:25,972
Speaker 4: go and pick what she wants.

1789
01:23:26,013 --> 01:23:28,253
Speaker 2: But ladies love you taking charge.

1790
01:23:28,293 --> 01:23:30,852
Speaker 4: What I didn't realize would be real with him some do.

1791
01:23:31,253 --> 01:23:33,452
Speaker 4: What I didn't realize would be real awkward is that

1792
01:23:33,532 --> 01:23:36,772
Speaker 4: people saw the picture Alan's is that? Jeez, that's a

1793
01:23:36,772 --> 01:23:38,732
Speaker 4: big rock. How much did you pay for that?

1794
01:23:39,053 --> 01:23:39,173
Speaker 9: Right?

1795
01:23:39,452 --> 01:23:41,372
Speaker 4: May? If you lucky? Gil? And then we had to

1796
01:23:41,412 --> 01:23:43,612
Speaker 4: do the awkward thing and say it's not real, it's

1797
01:23:43,652 --> 01:23:45,253
Speaker 4: not real, it's just a cubicxiconia.

1798
01:23:45,612 --> 01:23:45,852
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1799
01:23:46,013 --> 01:23:47,933
Speaker 4: So now I've put myself in the corner here and

1800
01:23:47,973 --> 01:23:50,932
Speaker 4: you're quite right. Now, do I set a budget on

1801
01:23:51,053 --> 01:23:55,293
Speaker 4: what Mave can spend on the ring that she's going

1802
01:23:55,372 --> 01:23:56,172
Speaker 4: to design herself.

1803
01:23:56,412 --> 01:23:59,652
Speaker 2: Arguably this puts you on the back foot because now

1804
01:23:59,893 --> 01:24:02,293
Speaker 2: because you could have you could have picked a ring

1805
01:24:02,372 --> 01:24:04,892
Speaker 2: within your range that was probably at the lower range

1806
01:24:04,893 --> 01:24:06,892
Speaker 2: of what she wanted, but enough to just get across

1807
01:24:06,933 --> 01:24:07,253
Speaker 2: the line.

1808
01:24:07,372 --> 01:24:09,652
Speaker 4: Yeah, I quite like the idea of lab grind diamonds.

1809
01:24:09,772 --> 01:24:11,572
Speaker 4: It's a good discourt price. But what do you say,

1810
01:24:11,612 --> 01:24:14,293
Speaker 4: Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call?

1811
01:24:14,372 --> 01:24:16,972
Speaker 4: Did you go the placeholder ring? And I am keen

1812
01:24:17,013 --> 01:24:19,093
Speaker 4: to have a chat about lab grind diamonds? They they

1813
01:24:19,173 --> 01:24:21,173
Speaker 4: to me are pretty much the same deal with just

1814
01:24:21,213 --> 01:24:23,053
Speaker 4: a lot lot less expensive.

1815
01:24:23,093 --> 01:24:25,573
Speaker 2: The sex is Hey, guys, money should never be associated

1816
01:24:25,612 --> 01:24:30,253
Speaker 2: with love, but asn't a part of a marriage or

1817
01:24:30,452 --> 01:24:36,972
Speaker 2: like an engagement, saying that I think there is a

1818
01:24:37,013 --> 01:24:38,052
Speaker 2: financial part of it.

1819
01:24:38,013 --> 01:24:41,173
Speaker 4: You reckon. It's that commitment that I'm spending so many thousands.

1820
01:24:41,372 --> 01:24:46,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sacrificing you know. I think you're this important

1821
01:24:46,133 --> 01:24:48,613
Speaker 2: and I'll take this much of a hit for you financially.

1822
01:24:48,652 --> 01:24:50,532
Speaker 4: What's the resale value on an engagement ring? Can you

1823
01:24:50,532 --> 01:24:54,532
Speaker 4: get your money beg to diamonds to diamonds go down

1824
01:24:54,572 --> 01:24:57,013
Speaker 4: to value? Can you Is there a.

1825
01:24:56,933 --> 01:24:59,972
Speaker 2: Good secondhand engagement ring market? Or have they got bad

1826
01:25:00,213 --> 01:25:03,253
Speaker 2: bad Yeah? Are they possessed with bad spirits of the

1827
01:25:03,452 --> 01:25:06,293
Speaker 2: if the weddings, you know, turn back turns out.

1828
01:25:06,333 --> 01:25:07,612
Speaker 4: If that's you, I want to hear from you. Oh,

1829
01:25:07,612 --> 01:25:08,893
Speaker 4: one hundred eighty.

1830
01:25:08,933 --> 01:25:10,852
Speaker 2: Do you have to give the ring back if Mayve

1831
01:25:10,893 --> 01:25:12,492
Speaker 2: pulls out? Does you have to give the ring back

1832
01:25:12,532 --> 01:25:13,333
Speaker 2: if you buy a nice one?

1833
01:25:13,333 --> 01:25:15,612
Speaker 4: It's a good question. On't expects. So nineteen ninety two

1834
01:25:15,692 --> 01:25:17,852
Speaker 4: is the text number. Let's get into it as thirteen

1835
01:25:17,853 --> 01:25:21,213
Speaker 4: past three news talk s'd be very good afternoon, quarter

1836
01:25:21,253 --> 01:25:23,333
Speaker 4: past three. So we're talking about the idea of a

1837
01:25:23,372 --> 01:25:25,733
Speaker 4: placeholder ring. This is what I did when I proposed

1838
01:25:25,812 --> 01:25:31,052
Speaker 4: to my beautiful fiance. Now, fiance, Mayve and Matt, you've

1839
01:25:31,093 --> 01:25:33,293
Speaker 4: made a couple of claims here that won it might

1840
01:25:33,333 --> 01:25:34,092
Speaker 4: be a bit cowardly.

1841
01:25:34,293 --> 01:25:37,532
Speaker 2: So you bought a cheap placeholder ring, yep, and that

1842
01:25:37,772 --> 01:25:41,213
Speaker 2: was because you Your argument is that you wanted her

1843
01:25:41,253 --> 01:25:42,532
Speaker 2: to pick what she wants.

1844
01:25:42,732 --> 01:25:45,812
Speaker 4: Yes, I had no idea really on the design that

1845
01:25:45,933 --> 01:25:47,333
Speaker 4: was going to work for her. That I could have

1846
01:25:47,372 --> 01:25:49,932
Speaker 4: spent thousands of dollars on something that I thought looked

1847
01:25:49,973 --> 01:25:53,612
Speaker 4: really nice. But I just thought maybe she should be

1848
01:25:53,692 --> 01:25:54,412
Speaker 4: the one to pick it.

1849
01:25:55,053 --> 01:25:57,293
Speaker 2: Well, as I said, and I would be interested to

1850
01:25:57,293 --> 01:25:58,932
Speaker 2: see what people think. I know eight hundred and eighty

1851
01:25:58,973 --> 01:26:01,772
Speaker 2: ten eighty as I said, Well, I think that you

1852
01:26:01,812 --> 01:26:04,093
Speaker 2: ask you may have to marry you was a beautiful thing.

1853
01:26:04,173 --> 01:26:07,093
Speaker 2: I think your use of a placeholder ring was both

1854
01:26:07,173 --> 01:26:08,012
Speaker 2: cheap and cowardly.

1855
01:26:10,173 --> 01:26:14,093
Speaker 5: Being how are you mate, I'm good, boys, I'm good Now.

1856
01:26:15,013 --> 01:26:17,333
Speaker 5: I went next level, and so was a friend of mine.

1857
01:26:17,812 --> 01:26:18,733
Speaker 5: He went ringless.

1858
01:26:19,293 --> 01:26:19,933
Speaker 2: Wow.

1859
01:26:21,053 --> 01:26:23,772
Speaker 5: Yeah. So my friend was at the top of Mount

1860
01:26:23,853 --> 01:26:27,213
Speaker 5: Kilimanjaro and he thought, you know, it feels right for

1861
01:26:27,412 --> 01:26:31,293
Speaker 5: the trigger. He made a ring out of a bottle cap,

1862
01:26:31,412 --> 01:26:34,452
Speaker 5: I believe, or maybe the a candle lid.

1863
01:26:34,732 --> 01:26:35,132
Speaker 2: Thrifty.

1864
01:26:35,853 --> 01:26:38,732
Speaker 5: They still they still have it. They didn't happen to

1865
01:26:38,732 --> 01:26:40,852
Speaker 5: be a ring shop at the top of Mount Kiliman Jarrow,

1866
01:26:40,933 --> 01:26:45,173
Speaker 5: so you know, there wasn't a ring handy. And then

1867
01:26:45,293 --> 01:26:47,492
Speaker 5: on the way home from Dubai they stopped off and

1868
01:26:48,452 --> 01:26:50,893
Speaker 5: purchased a ring on the way home that she or

1869
01:26:50,933 --> 01:26:51,612
Speaker 5: they both liked.

1870
01:26:51,612 --> 01:26:53,652
Speaker 4: I guess that takes you a better start.

1871
01:26:53,772 --> 01:26:59,293
Speaker 5: Why yeah, Mine wasn't quite as picturesque and dramatic as that.

1872
01:26:59,372 --> 01:27:03,333
Speaker 5: Mine was a kitchen table and I made the ring

1873
01:27:03,412 --> 01:27:07,172
Speaker 5: out of a white chocolate lint ball wrapper.

1874
01:27:09,812 --> 01:27:13,932
Speaker 2: And was this because being you it was the spare

1875
01:27:13,973 --> 01:27:15,812
Speaker 2: of the moment thing? Or was was this part of

1876
01:27:15,853 --> 01:27:19,372
Speaker 2: your plan to to you know, no plan.

1877
01:27:19,572 --> 01:27:22,652
Speaker 5: No plan. I've been thinking about it during the day.

1878
01:27:23,372 --> 01:27:25,093
Speaker 5: People had asked me when if I got to pop

1879
01:27:25,093 --> 01:27:28,412
Speaker 5: the question. I was like, yeah, why not, got home,

1880
01:27:28,572 --> 01:27:30,053
Speaker 5: had a few drinks and us and thought, you know,

1881
01:27:30,452 --> 01:27:34,452
Speaker 5: pull the trigger, let's go. And once again, no ring

1882
01:27:34,492 --> 01:27:37,692
Speaker 5: shop hand The whole like concept of I know what

1883
01:27:37,732 --> 01:27:39,532
Speaker 5: it must be like you might be explained to like

1884
01:27:39,572 --> 01:27:41,732
Speaker 5: going to decide you're going to do it, going out

1885
01:27:41,812 --> 01:27:45,492
Speaker 5: to buy said ring in trying to create a moment,

1886
01:27:45,572 --> 01:27:48,692
Speaker 5: hopefully it goes well, or you know, you get to

1887
01:27:48,732 --> 01:27:49,892
Speaker 5: the point you've had a bit of a you know

1888
01:27:49,973 --> 01:27:52,092
Speaker 5: the day hasn't gone that well and she's a bit upset,

1889
01:27:52,173 --> 01:27:53,692
Speaker 5: so you know, do you're back out of it?

1890
01:27:55,253 --> 01:27:55,773
Speaker 19: Yeah?

1891
01:27:56,333 --> 01:27:57,012
Speaker 5: How was the day?

1892
01:27:57,333 --> 01:27:59,252
Speaker 4: How was your ball of lunch received?

1893
01:27:59,293 --> 01:27:59,532
Speaker 2: Ben?

1894
01:28:00,692 --> 01:28:04,333
Speaker 4: Was a ball? Was one of those little lers like

1895
01:28:04,372 --> 01:28:05,333
Speaker 4: quite shiny?

1896
01:28:05,372 --> 01:28:08,293
Speaker 5: They n chocolate, chocolate chocolate.

1897
01:28:08,853 --> 01:28:10,333
Speaker 2: That's a lot more fancy. I thought it was just

1898
01:28:10,333 --> 01:28:12,492
Speaker 2: some lunch out of your pocket releases gold foil.

1899
01:28:12,612 --> 01:28:16,612
Speaker 5: No, that'd be crazy, wold gone.

1900
01:28:17,053 --> 01:28:19,253
Speaker 2: And so did you get on one knee? Did you

1901
01:28:19,293 --> 01:28:21,133
Speaker 2: get on the on your knee to handed this bit

1902
01:28:21,133 --> 01:28:22,173
Speaker 2: of rubbish or what?

1903
01:28:23,692 --> 01:28:23,892
Speaker 17: Yeah?

1904
01:28:23,973 --> 01:28:25,293
Speaker 5: I had to have two goes in it. So I

1905
01:28:25,333 --> 01:28:28,852
Speaker 5: got told office of being inappropriate and what they're joking?

1906
01:28:28,973 --> 01:28:32,133
Speaker 5: And I was then my my sister in law said

1907
01:28:32,133 --> 01:28:33,412
Speaker 5: that you have to get down on one knee and

1908
01:28:33,412 --> 01:28:33,652
Speaker 5: do it.

1909
01:28:33,692 --> 01:28:35,372
Speaker 2: So so there was an audience round two.

1910
01:28:36,333 --> 01:28:37,132
Speaker 5: Yes, the audience.

1911
01:28:39,093 --> 01:28:41,413
Speaker 4: That is a spur of the moment thing, mate, and

1912
01:28:41,412 --> 01:28:43,293
Speaker 4: and so yeah, but then.

1913
01:28:44,333 --> 01:28:46,093
Speaker 2: No, no, you go you tell the story, you talk

1914
01:28:46,173 --> 01:28:48,812
Speaker 2: us through the dropping that from the first from the

1915
01:28:48,853 --> 01:28:51,132
Speaker 2: first knee drop to write through to what happened.

1916
01:28:51,213 --> 01:28:54,253
Speaker 5: Okay, so so round one is like, right, let's do it,

1917
01:28:54,253 --> 01:28:57,772
Speaker 5: because get married. Anyone's like went a bit white. What

1918
01:29:00,812 --> 01:29:05,213
Speaker 5: are you serious and from? Yeah, so I didn't know.

1919
01:29:05,253 --> 01:29:06,892
Speaker 5: You've got to get down on one end. Ah right,

1920
01:29:06,973 --> 01:29:09,213
Speaker 5: you so did the whole down on one knee and

1921
01:29:09,652 --> 01:29:11,652
Speaker 5: your uncle and we got married and hey we're still married.

1922
01:29:11,692 --> 01:29:12,692
Speaker 5: We've got a kid in the wrist of it.

1923
01:29:12,772 --> 01:29:12,972
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1924
01:29:13,612 --> 01:29:16,532
Speaker 2: But did you get did you? Did you invest in

1925
01:29:15,652 --> 01:29:20,093
Speaker 2: a proper engagement ring and wedding ring down the track

1926
01:29:20,532 --> 01:29:21,133
Speaker 2: moving forward?

1927
01:29:21,213 --> 01:29:25,973
Speaker 5: Yes, we did, we did. Yeah, ironically I chose. I

1928
01:29:26,412 --> 01:29:30,892
Speaker 5: chose the design. Yeah, I we a design that we

1929
01:29:30,933 --> 01:29:34,892
Speaker 5: agreed on prominately. I found it and we used some

1930
01:29:34,973 --> 01:29:37,412
Speaker 5: of my gold that would mind out of the gold

1931
01:29:37,412 --> 01:29:40,293
Speaker 5: mining operation in the ring itself to.

1932
01:29:40,293 --> 01:29:41,253
Speaker 1: Work out in the Yeah.

1933
01:29:41,293 --> 01:29:42,052
Speaker 4: That's a nice touch.

1934
01:29:42,213 --> 01:29:43,973
Speaker 2: So when you say a gold mining operation, if you

1935
01:29:44,053 --> 01:29:46,532
Speaker 2: just got a pan and some and some rocks, you've

1936
01:29:46,532 --> 01:29:47,532
Speaker 2: got an actual operation.

1937
01:29:49,213 --> 01:29:50,612
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, diggers and stuff.

1938
01:29:50,652 --> 01:29:53,093
Speaker 2: All right? Well, well, I mean not many people have

1939
01:29:53,133 --> 01:29:56,612
Speaker 2: that option to actually, you know, dig up the gold

1940
01:29:56,652 --> 01:29:56,892
Speaker 2: for them.

1941
01:29:57,213 --> 01:29:59,412
Speaker 4: You have your own gold mines to excess.

1942
01:29:59,612 --> 01:30:01,892
Speaker 5: Well, you're living in the wrong place because you living

1943
01:30:01,893 --> 01:30:03,732
Speaker 5: on Whiz Coast. We're surrounded by the stuff.

1944
01:30:03,853 --> 01:30:06,372
Speaker 2: Yeah right, But then again, if you run your own

1945
01:30:06,412 --> 01:30:09,572
Speaker 2: gold mine, still giving a that bet of rubbish as

1946
01:30:09,572 --> 01:30:12,612
Speaker 2: a ring, chocolate rubbish at the ring sort of you know,

1947
01:30:13,333 --> 01:30:15,093
Speaker 2: you know, couldn't you have got her some sort of

1948
01:30:15,093 --> 01:30:17,973
Speaker 2: gold engagement ring? No, a spear of the moment, that's right.

1949
01:30:17,973 --> 01:30:21,853
Speaker 2: You've got a few drinks and you yeah at the moment. Yeah,

1950
01:30:21,893 --> 01:30:22,333
Speaker 2: so you reckon?

1951
01:30:22,412 --> 01:30:23,772
Speaker 4: I need to come down to the West coast and

1952
01:30:23,812 --> 01:30:26,693
Speaker 4: do some gold panning then, just for some some raw materials.

1953
01:30:26,973 --> 01:30:28,253
Speaker 4: That does sound very romantic?

1954
01:30:28,253 --> 01:30:31,173
Speaker 5: Why not? That would be putting some efident And a

1955
01:30:31,253 --> 01:30:34,692
Speaker 5: friend of mine also did that. He took his girlfriend

1956
01:30:34,692 --> 01:30:37,333
Speaker 5: gold panning and a bit of a resk and he

1957
01:30:37,532 --> 01:30:40,053
Speaker 5: dropped the ring into the gold pan and got her

1958
01:30:40,133 --> 01:30:46,253
Speaker 5: to pan the ring up. Oh beautiful, yeah, next level way.

1959
01:30:47,053 --> 01:30:49,013
Speaker 2: How long would it take me with a gold pan

1960
01:30:49,133 --> 01:30:50,772
Speaker 2: to get enough for a ring? Ben?

1961
01:30:51,853 --> 01:30:52,213
Speaker 5: Are you?

1962
01:30:52,253 --> 01:30:52,452
Speaker 18: Matt?

1963
01:30:52,532 --> 01:30:53,253
Speaker 5: Probably months?

1964
01:30:54,853 --> 01:30:55,852
Speaker 4: Fair? Very fair?

1965
01:30:56,452 --> 01:30:58,933
Speaker 5: What's some what's some aide we could probably point in

1966
01:30:58,933 --> 01:30:59,492
Speaker 5: the right direction?

1967
01:30:59,893 --> 01:31:02,812
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, look over here kind of thing.

1968
01:31:03,652 --> 01:31:07,093
Speaker 5: I mean, come with me, here's a better gold.

1969
01:31:07,532 --> 01:31:11,012
Speaker 2: Slip me a nugget when she's not looking. Actually yeah yeah.

1970
01:31:11,053 --> 01:31:14,372
Speaker 2: And so how long have you been together since their proposal? Ben?

1971
01:31:15,612 --> 01:31:17,652
Speaker 5: I want to say seven years, maybe a bit over.

1972
01:31:17,692 --> 01:31:20,293
Speaker 5: I'm not very good with numbers or birthdays, but I'm

1973
01:31:20,333 --> 01:31:21,892
Speaker 5: probably going to get corrected when I get home.

1974
01:31:22,173 --> 01:31:22,333
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1975
01:31:22,412 --> 01:31:24,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's seven year ch So how are you

1976
01:31:24,093 --> 01:31:27,612
Speaker 2: feeling right now? Famously seven years? When you start looking.

1977
01:31:27,452 --> 01:31:31,333
Speaker 5: Around, I'm good, prying that busy yet Yeah there's not

1978
01:31:31,452 --> 01:31:34,012
Speaker 5: much yet, no looking around.

1979
01:31:34,372 --> 01:31:37,653
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I need to write lady.

1980
01:31:37,732 --> 01:31:40,932
Speaker 5: Yeah that's all I like to think. Yeah, yeah, committed.

1981
01:31:40,973 --> 01:31:43,173
Speaker 5: I'm a man of the words, So you know I'm

1982
01:31:43,213 --> 01:31:43,612
Speaker 5: going to do.

1983
01:31:43,612 --> 01:31:46,692
Speaker 2: Something well, Ben, Thank you so much. So nice to

1984
01:31:46,692 --> 01:31:47,492
Speaker 2: talk to her. Romantic.

1985
01:31:47,612 --> 01:31:50,772
Speaker 4: Yeah, there we go. So not not only just not

1986
01:31:50,812 --> 01:31:53,612
Speaker 4: a placeholder ring, but a bit of a little foil,

1987
01:31:53,732 --> 01:31:56,772
Speaker 4: gold foil wrapped around her beautiful finger. Got the job

1988
01:31:56,812 --> 01:31:59,932
Speaker 4: done like your style, mate, have a good one.

1989
01:32:01,293 --> 01:32:02,052
Speaker 2: To you and the missus.

1990
01:32:02,093 --> 01:32:03,852
Speaker 4: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

1991
01:32:03,893 --> 01:32:06,253
Speaker 4: to call placeholder ring. It's what I went for. Did

1992
01:32:06,253 --> 01:32:07,892
Speaker 4: I make a mistake? Was it a bit cowardly?

1993
01:32:08,173 --> 01:32:08,492
Speaker 1: Or why?

1994
01:32:08,893 --> 01:32:11,012
Speaker 4: Is it what you should do? In twenty twenty six.

1995
01:32:10,933 --> 01:32:13,692
Speaker 2: Jans is wrong move? Tyler Mave would have had twenty

1996
01:32:13,732 --> 01:32:16,133
Speaker 2: seconds looking at and seen the fake, her heart would

1997
01:32:16,133 --> 01:32:18,652
Speaker 2: have dropped. Propose either with the real ring, You've done

1998
01:32:18,692 --> 01:32:21,612
Speaker 2: your homework on or no ring and no announcement till

1999
01:32:21,612 --> 01:32:24,013
Speaker 2: the ring thing is brought. So when you showed it

2000
01:32:24,013 --> 01:32:25,492
Speaker 2: to her, how quickly did you tell her that it

2001
01:32:25,572 --> 01:32:29,452
Speaker 2: was a placement ring and not the actual final deal? Tyler?

2002
01:32:29,853 --> 01:32:32,173
Speaker 4: I let her have those hopes and dreams for at

2003
01:32:32,333 --> 01:32:34,452
Speaker 4: least a couple of minutes before I said because he's hit,

2004
01:32:34,853 --> 01:32:36,812
Speaker 4: so say, man, that's a big rock, and that I

2005
01:32:36,853 --> 01:32:39,093
Speaker 4: had to say at that point as to say, look,

2006
01:32:39,093 --> 01:32:41,253
Speaker 4: this is just a placeholder ring. That's not a real

2007
01:32:41,333 --> 01:32:44,652
Speaker 4: diamond by any of the imagination. Oh eighte hundred and

2008
01:32:44,652 --> 01:32:46,572
Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty is another to call nine two nine

2009
01:32:46,572 --> 01:32:47,653
Speaker 4: sees the text.

2010
01:32:47,452 --> 01:32:49,652
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm taking a bit of a hammering on the text.

2011
01:32:49,532 --> 01:32:51,173
Speaker 4: Or she had that next twenty three past three.

2012
01:32:51,213 --> 01:32:59,052
Speaker 16: I'm actually a very deep individual, Matt Heathen Tyler Adams

2013
01:32:59,093 --> 01:33:02,333
Speaker 16: afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty on used

2014
01:33:02,372 --> 01:33:03,213
Speaker 16: talk ZIB.

2015
01:33:03,293 --> 01:33:05,532
Speaker 4: Twenty five past three. So we're talking about the idea

2016
01:33:05,572 --> 01:33:08,612
Speaker 4: of a placeholder ring. This is a budget style that

2017
01:33:08,732 --> 01:33:12,093
Speaker 4: looks okay in many aspects, but it's fake. That's what

2018
01:33:12,133 --> 01:33:14,532
Speaker 4: I did when I proposed to mave. Was that the

2019
01:33:14,612 --> 01:33:16,412
Speaker 4: wrong move? It seems to be fifty to fifty at

2020
01:33:16,452 --> 01:33:18,892
Speaker 4: the moment between whether the placeholder ring is a bit

2021
01:33:18,973 --> 01:33:21,852
Speaker 4: cheap and tasteless and whether it was you know, makes

2022
01:33:21,853 --> 01:33:23,333
Speaker 4: sense for her to pick the design.

2023
01:33:23,812 --> 01:33:25,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think the problem as well is that

2024
01:33:25,412 --> 01:33:29,012
Speaker 2: you went for a big rock on a big fake rock. Yeah,

2025
01:33:29,093 --> 01:33:31,572
Speaker 2: that's the piece of information you've just shared recently. So

2026
01:33:31,652 --> 01:33:34,852
Speaker 2: then she's looking at going, Tyler spent fifty thousand dollars

2027
01:33:34,893 --> 01:33:36,572
Speaker 2: on this, and.

2028
01:33:36,572 --> 01:33:38,412
Speaker 4: I had to break your little heart. You say, what

2029
01:33:38,772 --> 01:33:43,852
Speaker 4: two hundred? It's a nice looking ring. And the secondary question.

2030
01:33:43,652 --> 01:33:46,572
Speaker 2: You're talking about here, Tyler and these people are saying

2031
01:33:46,572 --> 01:33:49,412
Speaker 2: I'm shallow because I'm talking about the money and saying

2032
01:33:49,452 --> 01:33:51,093
Speaker 2: that the money doesn't matter. I think that. I think

2033
01:33:51,173 --> 01:33:53,892
Speaker 2: money is part of a relationship. I think it is

2034
01:33:54,412 --> 01:33:57,772
Speaker 2: because marriage is. It's about being able to provide for someone.

2035
01:33:57,853 --> 01:33:59,612
Speaker 2: Isn't it? Isn't that? Aren't you saying I'm going to

2036
01:33:59,692 --> 01:34:02,732
Speaker 2: look after you? Isn't that? Is that? An old is that.

2037
01:34:02,732 --> 01:34:05,572
Speaker 4: Sexist ladies can handle themselves. Gount they a one hundred

2038
01:34:05,572 --> 01:34:06,412
Speaker 4: and eighty to daddy.

2039
01:34:06,333 --> 01:34:08,333
Speaker 2: What they can, but they don't. Maybe the don't want to.

2040
01:34:08,812 --> 01:34:11,973
Speaker 2: Aren't you saying like I'm gonna I'm gonna you know

2041
01:34:12,053 --> 01:34:14,012
Speaker 2: you're going to be okay, you don't have to worry

2042
01:34:14,053 --> 01:34:16,053
Speaker 2: about stuff anymore. Isn't that the whole point? And then

2043
01:34:16,093 --> 01:34:17,132
Speaker 2: you go look at me, Look, I've.

2044
01:34:16,973 --> 01:34:19,293
Speaker 4: Just I've just dropped twenty five thousand dollars on this

2045
01:34:19,412 --> 01:34:22,692
Speaker 4: massive rock broke. Now I've got no money for the wedding.

2046
01:34:22,973 --> 01:34:26,092
Speaker 2: Bad news is foreclosed on the mortgage.

2047
01:34:27,572 --> 01:34:31,053
Speaker 4: Diane, how are you very well? Thank you, nice to

2048
01:34:31,133 --> 01:34:33,253
Speaker 4: chat with you. So let's start with placeholder rings.

2049
01:34:33,333 --> 01:34:33,492
Speaker 10: Is that?

2050
01:34:33,612 --> 01:34:35,252
Speaker 4: Is that a bit nath Is it a bit cowardly?

2051
01:34:35,612 --> 01:34:36,532
Speaker 4: Or is it the right move?

2052
01:34:37,853 --> 01:34:38,093
Speaker 9: Well?

2053
01:34:38,492 --> 01:34:45,173
Speaker 7: Purchase saying an engagement is a very emotional purture and

2054
01:34:45,452 --> 01:34:50,173
Speaker 7: deserves all the attention to detail required for the best

2055
01:34:50,412 --> 01:34:54,492
Speaker 7: outcome to the stroll the person that is receiving it,

2056
01:34:54,652 --> 01:34:58,012
Speaker 7: and to make the experience with a person acquiring plain,

2057
01:34:58,133 --> 01:35:02,093
Speaker 7: sailing and informative and give him confidence he's got it right.

2058
01:35:02,652 --> 01:35:05,093
Speaker 4: Well, okay, it is deep. You've thought about this, you

2059
01:35:05,133 --> 01:35:10,692
Speaker 4: have so and so then we look at the lab

2060
01:35:10,732 --> 01:35:13,972
Speaker 4: growing versus that the natural diamond. I'm a big fan

2061
01:35:14,013 --> 01:35:18,412
Speaker 4: of lab growing because I think it is identical to

2062
01:35:18,452 --> 01:35:21,732
Speaker 4: a natural diamond in every aspect except it's a bit cheaper.

2063
01:35:21,732 --> 01:35:22,412
Speaker 4: What would you say to.

2064
01:35:22,372 --> 01:35:24,572
Speaker 1: That dimond, Okay.

2065
01:35:25,093 --> 01:35:29,852
Speaker 7: A natural diamond is a finite product, which is not

2066
01:35:30,173 --> 01:35:36,372
Speaker 7: a limited, endless supply, whereas a manufactured diamond someone can say, oh,

2067
01:35:36,452 --> 01:35:41,412
Speaker 7: let's produce ten thousands of detailer. You know, one carrot

2068
01:35:43,213 --> 01:35:48,013
Speaker 7: a diamond today. So therefore, if it's if it's not

2069
01:35:48,253 --> 01:35:53,093
Speaker 7: a limitless it's limitless product. Where is the value? So

2070
01:35:54,293 --> 01:35:57,772
Speaker 7: it's whereas the diamond holds its value is because they

2071
01:35:57,812 --> 01:36:01,852
Speaker 7: are pressures, they are rare, and every diamond is unique,

2072
01:36:02,213 --> 01:36:05,852
Speaker 7: where as a manufactured diamond is just as it would

2073
01:36:05,893 --> 01:36:07,652
Speaker 7: suggest they just manufacture them.

2074
01:36:08,213 --> 01:36:11,173
Speaker 2: Is that as an engagement ring though, an investment that

2075
01:36:11,253 --> 01:36:14,053
Speaker 2: holds its value? Or is the value in the engagement

2076
01:36:14,053 --> 01:36:18,933
Speaker 2: when the love? And therefore can't that be a like

2077
01:36:19,053 --> 01:36:20,892
Speaker 2: lab grown love? You know, like.

2078
01:36:22,333 --> 01:36:26,372
Speaker 7: I guess that that really is the perception of the

2079
01:36:26,412 --> 01:36:27,492
Speaker 7: person receiving it.

2080
01:36:29,452 --> 01:36:31,572
Speaker 4: So I don't know nothing says I love you like

2081
01:36:31,652 --> 01:36:35,532
Speaker 4: a scientist getting down and dirty and creating a beautiful diamond,

2082
01:36:36,013 --> 01:36:38,572
Speaker 4: which is bye by all aspects. It is exactly the

2083
01:36:38,612 --> 01:36:41,253
Speaker 4: same as one dug out of the ground. It's just

2084
01:36:41,412 --> 01:36:43,212
Speaker 4: as Diane says, you can make a few.

2085
01:36:43,013 --> 01:36:46,293
Speaker 2: More of them. Some people can tell some people can't tell. Yeah,

2086
01:36:46,333 --> 01:36:50,133
Speaker 2: but this sort of there's another question here. And you

2087
01:36:50,133 --> 01:36:52,693
Speaker 2: know when you went through the placeholder ring and someone's

2088
01:36:52,772 --> 01:36:54,213
Speaker 2: texted her here, and so when you said you'd go

2089
01:36:54,253 --> 01:36:56,412
Speaker 2: to a placehold ring, I thought you just cut a

2090
01:36:56,412 --> 01:36:58,372
Speaker 2: hole in a placeholder mat on a table and give

2091
01:36:58,412 --> 01:37:00,852
Speaker 2: it to placeholder ring. As you've spent about two hundred

2092
01:37:00,853 --> 01:37:02,732
Speaker 2: bucks and it looks like a ring. So you can

2093
01:37:02,772 --> 01:37:05,972
Speaker 2: get down on the knee, open the little wounding package

2094
01:37:06,013 --> 01:37:09,013
Speaker 2: and hand it over and she goes. You know, but

2095
01:37:09,812 --> 01:37:11,732
Speaker 2: that part of it is you're saying, is that you

2096
01:37:11,812 --> 01:37:14,932
Speaker 2: didn't know what she would like, so you didn't want

2097
01:37:14,973 --> 01:37:18,333
Speaker 2: to spend the money. But surely that doesn't matter. She

2098
01:37:18,372 --> 01:37:21,013
Speaker 2: should love whatever you give her because you gave it

2099
01:37:21,053 --> 01:37:23,652
Speaker 2: to her, even if it's a nice are So every

2100
01:37:23,692 --> 01:37:25,412
Speaker 2: time she looks down at some I don't know what

2101
01:37:25,452 --> 01:37:28,253
Speaker 2: would be some how you could mess it up. I

2102
01:37:28,293 --> 01:37:30,213
Speaker 2: don't know how you can mess up? Can you mess

2103
01:37:30,293 --> 01:37:33,333
Speaker 2: up a ring? Is the ugly engagement rings? Aren't they

2104
01:37:33,372 --> 01:37:34,812
Speaker 2: all kind of the same and just kind of diamond

2105
01:37:34,853 --> 01:37:36,093
Speaker 2: on them and some crap around them?

2106
01:37:36,173 --> 01:37:37,812
Speaker 4: Yeah, A nice rock and a bit of gold I

2107
01:37:37,853 --> 01:37:39,372
Speaker 4: think does the trick. I will say that.

2108
01:37:40,213 --> 01:37:43,012
Speaker 2: The woman you want to marry the woman that just goes.

2109
01:37:43,692 --> 01:37:47,492
Speaker 2: I love that because you picked it, and well, it

2110
01:37:47,532 --> 01:37:50,133
Speaker 2: may demonstrate that you're a bit of an idiot. I

2111
01:37:50,173 --> 01:37:51,293
Speaker 2: still love it because that's you.

2112
01:37:51,732 --> 01:37:53,692
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I agree, And I will say she was

2113
01:37:53,732 --> 01:37:56,492
Speaker 4: looking at that fake ring for most of the trip

2114
01:37:56,532 --> 01:37:58,893
Speaker 4: after the proposal. Yeah, so she was still chuffed with it.

2115
01:37:59,372 --> 01:38:01,412
Speaker 4: But also I think she was kind of looking at

2116
01:38:01,412 --> 01:38:03,213
Speaker 4: it with a we smile and her face saying I

2117
01:38:03,253 --> 01:38:05,173
Speaker 4: know exactly what I want and how much I want

2118
01:38:05,213 --> 01:38:06,932
Speaker 4: to spend when we go and get the real thing.

2119
01:38:07,293 --> 01:38:09,213
Speaker 4: Oh had one hundred and eight ten eighty is another

2120
01:38:09,293 --> 01:38:12,253
Speaker 4: to call placeholder ring? Have I made a mistake here?

2121
01:38:12,412 --> 01:38:14,213
Speaker 4: Or is that the way to go? In twenty twenty five,

2122
01:38:14,293 --> 01:38:16,213
Speaker 4: love to hear from your headlines with railing coming.

2123
01:38:16,133 --> 01:38:21,333
Speaker 17: Up, you've talk said bee headlines with blue bubble taxis

2124
01:38:21,452 --> 01:38:24,412
Speaker 17: it's no trouble with a blue bubble. The Prime Minister

2125
01:38:24,572 --> 01:38:27,732
Speaker 17: says the government's focus is keeping the books in order

2126
01:38:27,893 --> 01:38:31,452
Speaker 17: and it won't be making big election promises. Chris Luckson's

2127
01:38:31,492 --> 01:38:33,892
Speaker 17: told a business audience in its State of the Nation

2128
01:38:34,053 --> 01:38:38,692
Speaker 17: address today economic recovery has arrived, but voters should keep

2129
01:38:38,732 --> 01:38:43,573
Speaker 17: expectations in check. Meanwhile, a CTU Mood of the Workforce

2130
01:38:43,652 --> 01:38:46,852
Speaker 17: survey of more than thirty five hundred people this month

2131
01:38:47,213 --> 01:38:50,013
Speaker 17: has resoundingly scored the government one or two out of

2132
01:38:50,133 --> 01:38:53,972
Speaker 17: five for the past year's performance. The union and non

2133
01:38:54,093 --> 01:38:58,693
Speaker 17: union workers across industries range from nurses, factory workers, cleaners

2134
01:38:58,732 --> 01:39:03,253
Speaker 17: and public servants. Pelisse, a sixty six year old tramper

2135
01:39:03,412 --> 01:39:07,813
Speaker 17: found alive yesterday after three weeks lost in Tasman Bush,

2136
01:39:07,933 --> 01:39:13,213
Speaker 17: is extremely lucky. Contractors discovered Graham Garnett yesterday at Venus Hut.

2137
01:39:13,452 --> 01:39:16,412
Speaker 17: He got lost after making a wrong turn, but made

2138
01:39:16,452 --> 01:39:19,173
Speaker 17: his way to the hut through streams and ridges along

2139
01:39:19,253 --> 01:39:24,253
Speaker 17: Cuameo River. After Trump reignites a trade war over Greenland

2140
01:39:24,412 --> 01:39:27,532
Speaker 17: europe ways going all out. You can see the full

2141
01:39:27,572 --> 01:39:30,572
Speaker 17: analysis at en said Herald Premium. Now back to Matt

2142
01:39:30,612 --> 01:39:31,652
Speaker 17: Heath and Tyner Adams.

2143
01:39:31,652 --> 01:39:34,132
Speaker 4: Thank you very much. Raellan saving an in depth discussion

2144
01:39:34,133 --> 01:39:36,412
Speaker 4: about the idea of a placeholder ring. It's what I

2145
01:39:36,492 --> 01:39:39,732
Speaker 4: went for when I dropped the knee to propose to Mave,

2146
01:39:39,893 --> 01:39:43,293
Speaker 4: my partner now fiance, and it's heating up. I think

2147
01:39:43,333 --> 01:39:46,013
Speaker 4: it's about fifty to fifty between The placeholder was the

2148
01:39:46,133 --> 01:39:48,053
Speaker 4: right move because then she gets to pick what she

2149
01:39:48,093 --> 01:39:51,253
Speaker 4: wants versus the other side of the equation that why

2150
01:39:51,293 --> 01:39:52,852
Speaker 4: didn't you just man up and get a proper ring

2151
01:39:52,893 --> 01:39:53,293
Speaker 4: the first time?

2152
01:39:53,372 --> 01:39:53,532
Speaker 13: Yeah?

2153
01:39:53,532 --> 01:39:55,652
Speaker 2: As I said, it's cowardly and weak. No offense, buddy,

2154
01:39:55,692 --> 01:39:57,372
Speaker 2: and congratulations to engagement.

2155
01:39:57,372 --> 01:39:58,772
Speaker 4: Thank you beautiful words.

2156
01:40:00,013 --> 01:40:02,412
Speaker 2: Tyler. Did you think in your ten years getting to

2157
01:40:02,452 --> 01:40:05,133
Speaker 2: know may you might have got some hints of what

2158
01:40:05,213 --> 01:40:08,173
Speaker 2: she liked. Then you could have done shopping and she

2159
01:40:08,372 --> 01:40:11,173
Speaker 2: would have thought, gosh, Tyler, you listen to me. So

2160
01:40:11,253 --> 01:40:14,612
Speaker 2: that's that's that's the point there. If you if you

2161
01:40:14,612 --> 01:40:18,253
Speaker 2: don't know what she likes, then have you been paying

2162
01:40:18,253 --> 01:40:19,492
Speaker 2: attention for the last ten years?

2163
01:40:19,492 --> 01:40:21,452
Speaker 4: But how do you do that without giving the game away?

2164
01:40:21,492 --> 01:40:24,252
Speaker 4: Because I thought about that? But how do you subtly

2165
01:40:24,652 --> 01:40:29,652
Speaker 4: drop hints on what is her style without it basically

2166
01:40:29,692 --> 01:40:32,293
Speaker 4: saying I'm about to propose because I wanted it to

2167
01:40:32,532 --> 01:40:34,452
Speaker 4: be a bit of a surprise, you know, ten years

2168
01:40:34,452 --> 01:40:34,932
Speaker 4: and waiting.

2169
01:40:35,372 --> 01:40:37,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, but okay, this is a question for you, Tyler.

2170
01:40:37,333 --> 01:40:37,972
Speaker 2: Are you perfect?

2171
01:40:38,532 --> 01:40:40,572
Speaker 4: Yeah? Absolutely? Are you well in what way?

2172
01:40:41,013 --> 01:40:45,772
Speaker 2: Well? Just you know, are you the perfect choice? What

2173
01:40:45,812 --> 01:40:50,293
Speaker 2: I'm saying is does the shouldn't the ring represent you?

2174
01:40:52,492 --> 01:40:54,572
Speaker 2: And see where you go with it anyway. Yeah, yeah,

2175
01:40:54,612 --> 01:40:56,692
Speaker 2: are you a fifty thousand dollars ring? That's what I'm saying,

2176
01:40:56,692 --> 01:40:59,412
Speaker 2: all right, Tyler, isn't the idea of marriage that she

2177
01:40:59,492 --> 01:41:02,253
Speaker 2: wears your ring, one that you chose and she loves

2178
01:41:02,293 --> 01:41:04,772
Speaker 2: it because you chose it. I wouldn't have thought it's

2179
01:41:04,812 --> 01:41:08,012
Speaker 2: her choice, that's her ring, not yours.

2180
01:41:08,093 --> 01:41:08,253
Speaker 6: Yet.

2181
01:41:08,492 --> 01:41:11,253
Speaker 2: See that's the thing. It's it's the ring that you

2182
01:41:11,372 --> 01:41:14,293
Speaker 2: choose for her, and it's and that's part of it.

2183
01:41:14,293 --> 01:41:16,293
Speaker 2: That's why I say your choice was cowardly and cheap,

2184
01:41:16,333 --> 01:41:22,492
Speaker 2: because because really, be honest, you didn't want to spend

2185
01:41:22,492 --> 01:41:25,532
Speaker 2: a lot of money on something that she might not like. Yeah, exactly,

2186
01:41:25,612 --> 01:41:26,372
Speaker 2: So that's cowardly.

2187
01:41:26,812 --> 01:41:28,892
Speaker 4: Well, but now I can spend a lot of money

2188
01:41:28,893 --> 01:41:31,732
Speaker 4: on something she's absolutely gone to love because she's lined

2189
01:41:31,812 --> 01:41:34,893
Speaker 4: up about seven different jewelers to go and have a consultation.

2190
01:41:35,013 --> 01:41:37,973
Speaker 2: But you haven't taken a risk then, and part of

2191
01:41:38,492 --> 01:41:41,092
Speaker 2: part of it is the risk of spending some money

2192
01:41:41,692 --> 01:41:43,492
Speaker 2: on what you believe she likes.

2193
01:41:43,973 --> 01:41:46,732
Speaker 4: But you know me well enough, mate. Imagine if if

2194
01:41:46,772 --> 01:41:50,053
Speaker 4: I dropped ten k on an engagement ring and then

2195
01:41:50,213 --> 01:41:52,333
Speaker 4: she didn't like it, and I knew she didn't like it.

2196
01:41:52,372 --> 01:41:55,133
Speaker 2: I'm surprised you dropped two hundred on the placement the

2197
01:41:55,173 --> 01:42:01,972
Speaker 2: placeholder ring. Michael, welcome to the show. Are you there, Michael, Michael?

2198
01:42:03,173 --> 01:42:03,772
Speaker 4: Are you Michael?

2199
01:42:04,452 --> 01:42:04,572
Speaker 5: Oh?

2200
01:42:04,973 --> 01:42:05,293
Speaker 1: Come he.

2201
01:42:07,093 --> 01:42:09,133
Speaker 2: Sorry, mate, I don't know how are you?

2202
01:42:09,452 --> 01:42:11,053
Speaker 3: Congratulations on the engagement.

2203
01:42:11,253 --> 01:42:11,972
Speaker 4: Thank you, Michael.

2204
01:42:12,692 --> 01:42:13,493
Speaker 3: It's nice.

2205
01:42:13,812 --> 01:42:13,972
Speaker 5: Hey.

2206
01:42:14,013 --> 01:42:16,812
Speaker 3: I just wanted to say, now I'm in a gay marriage,

2207
01:42:16,812 --> 01:42:19,652
Speaker 3: so I wanted a bit of gay representation. But I

2208
01:42:19,652 --> 01:42:22,333
Speaker 3: don't know about placeholder rings because it kind of it

2209
01:42:22,412 --> 01:42:24,213
Speaker 3: kind of made me assume that you hadn't had the

2210
01:42:24,333 --> 01:42:28,372
Speaker 3: talk about getting married anyway. A placeholder rings more for

2211
01:42:28,492 --> 01:42:31,812
Speaker 3: a surprise engagement. Should they not be like a joint

2212
01:42:31,853 --> 01:42:34,412
Speaker 3: discussion anyway about something so serious?

2213
01:42:35,013 --> 01:42:37,253
Speaker 2: Michael? Can I ask did you propose or were you

2214
01:42:37,293 --> 01:42:40,692
Speaker 2: proposed to or was it a proposal actually to give it?

2215
01:42:41,452 --> 01:42:44,492
Speaker 3: Yeah, I decided together we were sending good friends of

2216
01:42:44,492 --> 01:42:48,932
Speaker 3: ours their wedding, and during the day, couple of drinks,

2217
01:42:48,973 --> 01:42:52,412
Speaker 3: we just just decided, oh we could do this, let's

2218
01:42:52,412 --> 01:42:54,173
Speaker 3: get married, and we did so.

2219
01:42:54,452 --> 01:42:55,812
Speaker 2: But one of you must have been the first thing

2220
01:42:55,812 --> 01:42:58,333
Speaker 2: and said, because you know, you know, there's always and

2221
01:42:58,333 --> 01:43:00,532
Speaker 2: this happens a lot of marriages, right, you know, at weddings,

2222
01:43:00,772 --> 01:43:02,492
Speaker 2: people go, maybe we could get married. But someone has

2223
01:43:02,532 --> 01:43:06,013
Speaker 2: to go we could get married. Someone has to initiate

2224
01:43:06,053 --> 01:43:08,093
Speaker 2: the conversation, right, even if it's not a pure on

2225
01:43:08,133 --> 01:43:12,452
Speaker 2: the drop a knee engagement, someone someone turns the conversation

2226
01:43:12,572 --> 01:43:12,892
Speaker 2: that way.

2227
01:43:14,492 --> 01:43:17,093
Speaker 3: That's a fair point. Actually, Nah, I think it was

2228
01:43:17,133 --> 01:43:19,772
Speaker 3: probably my husband Luke who said, but there was no

2229
01:43:19,853 --> 01:43:22,093
Speaker 3: dropping on the knee. It was just a conversation. It

2230
01:43:22,173 --> 01:43:23,973
Speaker 3: was very kind of organic.

2231
01:43:24,532 --> 01:43:27,892
Speaker 2: Tell it's amazing, and maybe this is part of being

2232
01:43:27,893 --> 01:43:30,852
Speaker 2: a New Zealander. But so many of the texts I

2233
01:43:30,893 --> 01:43:32,372
Speaker 2: asked when I was esteemed.

2234
01:43:32,213 --> 01:43:34,812
Speaker 4: Or you need a lot of Dutch carriage. Appearently we

2235
01:43:35,013 --> 01:43:37,053
Speaker 4: had a few drinks.

2236
01:43:36,772 --> 01:43:39,172
Speaker 2: It seems to be a big part of the romance

2237
01:43:39,173 --> 01:43:39,852
Speaker 2: in this country.

2238
01:43:39,812 --> 01:43:42,333
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you were, you saying, Michael. But I never

2239
01:43:42,412 --> 01:43:45,093
Speaker 4: found a subtle way to drop that in because I

2240
01:43:45,732 --> 01:43:48,293
Speaker 4: dropped over the ten years. I dropped a few sort

2241
01:43:48,333 --> 01:43:51,012
Speaker 4: of questions in there and found the right time. For example,

2242
01:43:51,053 --> 01:43:54,133
Speaker 4: when another friend decided to propose, and then I'd say

2243
01:43:54,133 --> 01:43:56,972
Speaker 4: to Mave and say, hey, when I finally drop a knee,

2244
01:43:57,253 --> 01:43:59,772
Speaker 4: would you prefer that I give your father and mother

2245
01:43:59,812 --> 01:44:02,093
Speaker 4: are heads up? For example. But I never really found

2246
01:44:02,133 --> 01:44:04,612
Speaker 4: the right moment to say, hey, Mave, what are you

2247
01:44:04,612 --> 01:44:06,133
Speaker 4: looking for in a ring? What's your style?

2248
01:44:06,173 --> 01:44:06,612
Speaker 10: What do you want?

2249
01:44:06,652 --> 01:44:08,572
Speaker 4: You're want a massive diamond? Do you want gold? You

2250
01:44:08,572 --> 01:44:11,372
Speaker 4: wint white gold? You know I just never found that moment.

2251
01:44:11,372 --> 01:44:15,853
Speaker 2: There is ten years I'm with you.

2252
01:44:15,973 --> 01:44:17,692
Speaker 3: I've been shopping with her in ten years.

2253
01:44:19,492 --> 01:44:22,532
Speaker 2: Have you you never walked past like a store with

2254
01:44:22,572 --> 01:44:25,173
Speaker 2: some rings and gone, I quite like her this one

2255
01:44:25,173 --> 01:44:28,972
Speaker 2: and pointed, you know, I like I like that engagement

2256
01:44:29,053 --> 01:44:30,293
Speaker 2: ring and she goes, no, I don't.

2257
01:44:30,372 --> 01:44:32,293
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I've got a memory of a goldfish. Well

2258
01:44:32,333 --> 01:44:33,972
Speaker 4: I should have taken a photo of it. I hear

2259
01:44:33,973 --> 01:44:36,253
Speaker 4: what you're saying. But isn't it nice of Michael that

2260
01:44:36,692 --> 01:44:39,773
Speaker 4: now she gets to go and meet all these jewelers.

2261
01:44:39,933 --> 01:44:43,452
Speaker 4: We can have a wed chat, formalize that design, and

2262
01:44:43,492 --> 01:44:45,692
Speaker 4: then she'll be so stoked with that ring. That is

2263
01:44:46,412 --> 01:44:48,133
Speaker 4: what she genuinely loves.

2264
01:44:48,532 --> 01:44:50,972
Speaker 3: Yes, I do love that idea. I think it's wrong

2265
01:44:51,412 --> 01:44:56,492
Speaker 3: for for for somebody to choose their ring for their partner.

2266
01:44:56,853 --> 01:45:00,452
Speaker 3: They should they should be involved because it's very personal

2267
01:45:00,532 --> 01:45:02,572
Speaker 3: to them as well, Like, yes, it's nice to think

2268
01:45:02,772 --> 01:45:05,013
Speaker 3: you got her this ring. She might look at it

2269
01:45:05,053 --> 01:45:07,093
Speaker 3: every day and think this is beautiful. This is what

2270
01:45:07,213 --> 01:45:09,293
Speaker 3: he got me. Yeah, some people might be like that,

2271
01:45:09,372 --> 01:45:11,213
Speaker 3: but I think most women I know, they want to

2272
01:45:11,213 --> 01:45:12,372
Speaker 3: be involved in the conversation.

2273
01:45:12,412 --> 01:45:13,372
Speaker 1: Here's the ring.

2274
01:45:13,333 --> 01:45:15,932
Speaker 2: Here's the ring. Tyler got me, warts and all, and

2275
01:45:16,013 --> 01:45:19,372
Speaker 2: I've chosen and I've taken him as my husband. Warts

2276
01:45:19,412 --> 01:45:22,213
Speaker 2: and all. You know, there's beauty. There's a beauty in

2277
01:45:22,253 --> 01:45:24,372
Speaker 2: the fuggly nature of the ring, you know what I'm saying.

2278
01:45:24,772 --> 01:45:29,733
Speaker 3: Yes, And there's also beauty in simplicity, Like I don't think.

2279
01:45:29,973 --> 01:45:31,772
Speaker 3: I think it's a bit of a red flag when

2280
01:45:32,772 --> 01:45:35,812
Speaker 3: when somebody needs to spend thirty thousand dollars to show

2281
01:45:35,893 --> 01:45:37,812
Speaker 3: people what kind of ring they have, I think that's

2282
01:45:37,853 --> 01:45:39,013
Speaker 3: a bit of a red flag for me.

2283
01:45:39,213 --> 01:45:40,333
Speaker 4: I agree, I agree.

2284
01:45:40,412 --> 01:45:41,612
Speaker 2: Thank you for your call, Michael.

2285
01:45:41,772 --> 01:45:44,133
Speaker 4: Can I just say why I think I nailed the

2286
01:45:44,133 --> 01:45:46,973
Speaker 4: placeholder ring is that I actually spent a bit of

2287
01:45:47,013 --> 01:45:50,412
Speaker 4: time trying to find it a beautiful placeholder ring. So

2288
01:45:50,452 --> 01:45:52,732
Speaker 4: I actually did some research on design and what it

2289
01:45:52,732 --> 01:45:55,972
Speaker 4: should look like, even for the placeholder ring. And then

2290
01:45:55,973 --> 01:45:57,652
Speaker 4: when I dropped the knee and put it on her finger,

2291
01:45:57,692 --> 01:45:59,772
Speaker 4: and she loved it, no doubt about it. She she

2292
01:45:59,853 --> 01:46:01,492
Speaker 4: loved it. And there were tears and all sorts of

2293
01:46:01,572 --> 01:46:04,213
Speaker 4: good stuff there. But a little bit later on she

2294
01:46:04,253 --> 01:46:07,973
Speaker 4: did say it's not quite my style, right, It's not

2295
01:46:08,772 --> 01:46:10,892
Speaker 4: what I'd go for myself. So at that point I'm like,

2296
01:46:11,013 --> 01:46:13,013
Speaker 4: yes for this, because then I would have gone I

2297
01:46:13,013 --> 01:46:14,852
Speaker 4: would have done the same thing for the real deal.

2298
01:46:14,933 --> 01:46:17,293
Speaker 2: Okay, here's a question then, So if someone gets you

2299
01:46:17,333 --> 01:46:20,013
Speaker 2: a ring and they've spent the requisite what is it

2300
01:46:20,053 --> 01:46:22,892
Speaker 2: twenty percent of your wage on it or whatever? Twenty percent? Yeah,

2301
01:46:22,933 --> 01:46:25,732
Speaker 2: something like that. Okay, I know if someone knows the

2302
01:46:25,812 --> 01:46:28,652
Speaker 2: not there's a number, right, you're supposed to spend. Yeah,

2303
01:46:28,692 --> 01:46:30,933
Speaker 2: and you get given the ring, it's put on you,

2304
01:46:31,013 --> 01:46:33,932
Speaker 2: and you go that as a freaking iceore? Do you

2305
01:46:33,973 --> 01:46:35,253
Speaker 2: say do you say so?

2306
01:46:35,973 --> 01:46:37,692
Speaker 4: Surely? Not sure? So you can't say that?

2307
01:46:38,013 --> 01:46:39,973
Speaker 2: Do you say to the guy that's just dropped a

2308
01:46:40,053 --> 01:46:43,973
Speaker 2: knee this ring? I love you and I want to

2309
01:46:43,973 --> 01:46:47,133
Speaker 2: marry you, but this monstrosity that you've spent money on.

2310
01:46:47,692 --> 01:46:49,652
Speaker 2: We need to get this melted down instantly.

2311
01:46:50,253 --> 01:46:51,652
Speaker 4: If you've done that, love to hear from you.

2312
01:46:53,253 --> 01:46:55,213
Speaker 2: As a female. I love that he has given her

2313
01:46:55,293 --> 01:46:57,852
Speaker 2: the choice. What if she wants to add family diamonds

2314
01:46:57,893 --> 01:47:00,732
Speaker 2: to a ring, and you've lifted to her choice, her style.

2315
01:47:00,812 --> 01:47:03,372
Speaker 2: I respect the placeholder ring absolutely, Chantelle, thank you for

2316
01:47:03,412 --> 01:47:05,652
Speaker 2: your feedback. I think it's cowardly and cheap. But you

2317
01:47:05,652 --> 01:47:07,253
Speaker 2: know we've got a variety.

2318
01:47:06,933 --> 01:47:09,852
Speaker 4: Of Yeah, more Chanteals coming through. Please nineteen ninety two,

2319
01:47:10,093 --> 01:47:11,492
Speaker 4: there's eighteen to four.

2320
01:47:13,013 --> 01:47:17,852
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon talk, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams. Afternoons call, Oh,

2321
01:47:17,933 --> 01:47:19,932
Speaker 1: eight hundred eighty ten eighty youth talk.

2322
01:47:20,053 --> 01:47:22,972
Speaker 4: They'd be for a good afternoon sixteen to four. We're

2323
01:47:22,973 --> 01:47:25,093
Speaker 4: talking about the idea of a placeholder ring where you

2324
01:47:25,173 --> 01:47:27,892
Speaker 4: get a budget option ring before you drop a knee

2325
01:47:27,893 --> 01:47:32,652
Speaker 4: and propose to partner and then rope them in to

2326
01:47:32,853 --> 01:47:35,333
Speaker 4: design the real thing. Did I make a mistake? That's

2327
01:47:35,372 --> 01:47:37,572
Speaker 4: exactly what I did. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty

2328
01:47:37,652 --> 01:47:38,492
Speaker 4: is the number to call.

2329
01:47:38,412 --> 01:47:41,293
Speaker 2: The Sony facets to this isn't there? Because is it

2330
01:47:41,372 --> 01:47:45,173
Speaker 2: better to have a ring that's off the in the

2331
01:47:45,213 --> 01:47:48,892
Speaker 2: window or one that's been designed and built specifically custom?

2332
01:47:49,133 --> 01:47:49,412
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2333
01:47:49,532 --> 01:47:52,052
Speaker 2: Are you going to go off the shelf for custom

2334
01:47:52,333 --> 01:47:56,333
Speaker 2: now that you've you've given her the placement wounder.

2335
01:47:56,053 --> 01:47:59,732
Speaker 4: She's booked three consultations with jewelers, so I think customer

2336
01:48:00,093 --> 01:48:04,652
Speaker 4: is the way to go. But what do you say, Dale, Hi?

2337
01:48:04,692 --> 01:48:08,213
Speaker 14: There, I was on the receiving end of a place

2338
01:48:08,372 --> 01:48:08,852
Speaker 14: hold a ring.

2339
01:48:08,933 --> 01:48:11,932
Speaker 2: Ah, you're the person to talk to you. So how

2340
01:48:11,933 --> 01:48:12,652
Speaker 2: did it was?

2341
01:48:12,732 --> 01:48:17,492
Speaker 14: How did you feel a great experience for us and me?

2342
01:48:20,253 --> 01:48:22,973
Speaker 14: I had also been with my now husband for the

2343
01:48:23,013 --> 01:48:25,772
Speaker 14: better part of ten years before he proposed.

2344
01:48:26,013 --> 01:48:26,812
Speaker 2: It took him so long.

2345
01:48:29,372 --> 01:48:31,652
Speaker 14: We were pretty young when we got together, so I

2346
01:48:31,692 --> 01:48:36,133
Speaker 14: don't think we were expecting it too early. But we

2347
01:48:36,173 --> 01:48:38,572
Speaker 14: had traveled all over the world and I was like, yep,

2348
01:48:39,372 --> 01:48:41,772
Speaker 14: maybe this is it, you know, as we're hoty ballooning

2349
01:48:41,772 --> 01:48:49,333
Speaker 14: in Turkey and Terras and then after, you know, six

2350
01:48:49,372 --> 01:48:52,612
Speaker 14: months after returning home, I was like, maybe maybe it's

2351
01:48:52,692 --> 01:48:58,173
Speaker 14: not for us or whatever, and then he, yeah, popped

2352
01:48:58,173 --> 01:49:02,893
Speaker 14: out a placeholder ring, and yeah, it was perfect. I

2353
01:49:02,933 --> 01:49:06,772
Speaker 14: don't really wear jewelry, and so he wouldn't have had

2354
01:49:06,772 --> 01:49:09,772
Speaker 14: an inclination of what I wanted.

2355
01:49:10,893 --> 01:49:13,133
Speaker 2: Did you then go on to are you still wearing

2356
01:49:13,133 --> 01:49:14,692
Speaker 2: the placeholder ring? Or did you go on to get

2357
01:49:14,732 --> 01:49:16,173
Speaker 2: an actual ring?

2358
01:49:17,692 --> 01:49:19,892
Speaker 14: I do have an actual ring, but I loved my

2359
01:49:20,013 --> 01:49:23,293
Speaker 14: placeholder so much that I tried to get it resized

2360
01:49:24,093 --> 01:49:26,492
Speaker 14: so I can still wear it just on my other head.

2361
01:49:26,692 --> 01:49:29,652
Speaker 4: Oh, how good bless. Yeah, this is making me feel good.

2362
01:49:29,732 --> 01:49:32,612
Speaker 4: Dale making me feel very good. So did he say

2363
01:49:32,692 --> 01:49:34,772
Speaker 4: roughly how much he spent on the placeholder? Did he

2364
01:49:34,812 --> 01:49:35,733
Speaker 4: give you that information?

2365
01:49:38,452 --> 01:49:42,772
Speaker 14: It was a more job, So I expect that it

2366
01:49:42,812 --> 01:49:45,732
Speaker 14: came from like Lovisa and costs in the realm of

2367
01:49:46,013 --> 01:49:47,412
Speaker 14: ten dollars.

2368
01:49:48,452 --> 01:49:51,093
Speaker 2: Now that this is an interesting part of as well.

2369
01:49:51,133 --> 01:49:52,812
Speaker 2: That's so many facets of this conversation. We can talk

2370
01:49:52,812 --> 01:49:55,612
Speaker 2: about this for months. But how do you know the

2371
01:49:55,612 --> 01:49:59,932
Speaker 2: size of your partner's finger, even for the placeholder ring?

2372
01:50:00,333 --> 01:50:02,093
Speaker 2: Because you can't like sneak up under him and sleep

2373
01:50:02,133 --> 01:50:04,133
Speaker 2: with a measuring tape and measure their ring, can you?

2374
01:50:04,412 --> 01:50:04,892
Speaker 2: Bigger part?

2375
01:50:05,372 --> 01:50:07,253
Speaker 14: Yeah, well that's what I say. Mine had to get

2376
01:50:07,293 --> 01:50:09,612
Speaker 14: resized because I I think he put it on his

2377
01:50:09,692 --> 01:50:12,492
Speaker 14: biggest finger and said that'll be great, and naturally it

2378
01:50:12,572 --> 01:50:13,772
Speaker 14: was too big for my hand.

2379
01:50:13,973 --> 01:50:18,372
Speaker 4: Yeah. I actually may have never take She's got a

2380
01:50:18,372 --> 01:50:20,852
Speaker 4: couple of rings on her fingers, generational rings that mean

2381
01:50:20,893 --> 01:50:23,133
Speaker 4: a lot to her and she hardly ever takes them off.

2382
01:50:23,133 --> 01:50:25,333
Speaker 4: But the one time and she left it in the bed.

2383
01:50:25,372 --> 01:50:26,772
Speaker 4: I think it was a bit of a message. Actually,

2384
01:50:26,812 --> 01:50:29,732
Speaker 4: But I downloaded an app so you could check the size,

2385
01:50:29,772 --> 01:50:32,133
Speaker 4: and I thought I nailed it, but even then I

2386
01:50:32,173 --> 01:50:34,612
Speaker 4: still went a little bit too small, so we've got

2387
01:50:34,612 --> 01:50:35,372
Speaker 4: to get it resized.

2388
01:50:36,772 --> 01:50:38,572
Speaker 14: Yeah. Nice, No, I think it's a nice thing to

2389
01:50:38,612 --> 01:50:41,452
Speaker 14: hold on to, and you know, like depending on the

2390
01:50:41,492 --> 01:50:44,772
Speaker 14: proposal and everything, it's a special special thing for you

2391
01:50:44,812 --> 01:50:46,412
Speaker 14: to share, regardless of what it costs.

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01:50:46,572 --> 01:50:48,732
Speaker 2: Now Dale, seeing as you love the placeholder ring and

2393
01:50:48,732 --> 01:50:50,412
Speaker 2: then you you know, wanted to get it resized so

2394
01:50:50,412 --> 01:50:52,293
Speaker 2: you can wear. In another hand, it seems to me

2395
01:50:52,492 --> 01:50:54,692
Speaker 2: that you would have loved whatever he gave you, so

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01:50:54,772 --> 01:50:56,412
Speaker 2: he couldn't have got it wrong. If just if he

2397
01:50:56,452 --> 01:50:58,973
Speaker 2: had gone and chosen the ring that he thought that

2398
01:50:59,053 --> 01:51:02,492
Speaker 2: you would would have liked, it seems to me that

2399
01:51:02,612 --> 01:51:04,612
Speaker 2: he would have probably got it right just because you

2400
01:51:04,652 --> 01:51:06,372
Speaker 2: would have loved it, because it's what he gave you.

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01:51:09,053 --> 01:51:12,213
Speaker 14: A little bit. But I also have a generalization to

2402
01:51:12,253 --> 01:51:16,333
Speaker 14: make sweeping statements that I then go back on ages later.

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01:51:18,333 --> 01:51:23,333
Speaker 4: Beautifully. Yeah, and did you go did you go real

2404
01:51:23,372 --> 01:51:24,492
Speaker 4: diamond when you picked it out?

2405
01:51:26,213 --> 01:51:30,732
Speaker 14: We did, But knowing what I do now about the

2406
01:51:30,812 --> 01:51:34,812
Speaker 14: diamond industry, I think the money that we spent on

2407
01:51:34,933 --> 01:51:39,213
Speaker 14: my ring, which are were forever would have been I

2408
01:51:39,213 --> 01:51:42,612
Speaker 14: would have been equally as happy ending a tenth of

2409
01:51:42,692 --> 01:51:45,933
Speaker 14: that hon a ring from an estate sale that I

2410
01:51:45,933 --> 01:51:47,372
Speaker 14: would still love because.

2411
01:51:47,053 --> 01:51:50,932
Speaker 24: It's for you know, so you can get a dead

2412
01:51:50,973 --> 01:51:55,652
Speaker 24: person's ring, You sure can, right, That's a good option

2413
01:51:56,452 --> 01:51:58,613
Speaker 24: if you want like a fire.

2414
01:51:58,652 --> 01:52:02,692
Speaker 14: Or something that's got a you know, like a royal

2415
01:52:02,772 --> 01:52:05,092
Speaker 14: looking ring that's got a colored stone in the middle

2416
01:52:05,253 --> 01:52:09,372
Speaker 14: and got lots of finger on the outside. Lots of

2417
01:52:09,652 --> 01:52:12,652
Speaker 14: people who have died that might have been in fashion

2418
01:52:13,133 --> 01:52:15,692
Speaker 14: severe engagement ring. So you can scoop them up at

2419
01:52:16,452 --> 01:52:19,213
Speaker 14: maybe five thousand dollars or less. If you were to

2420
01:52:19,253 --> 01:52:21,572
Speaker 14: buy the brand new they might cost five times that

2421
01:52:21,732 --> 01:52:22,452
Speaker 14: for the same thing.

2422
01:52:22,973 --> 01:52:25,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, noted, if you want to go really cheap, you

2423
01:52:25,173 --> 01:52:28,612
Speaker 2: could dig someone up and grab the ring off their fingers.

2424
01:52:29,053 --> 01:52:33,213
Speaker 2: That Tyler does may have know this text of us.

2425
01:52:33,293 --> 01:52:35,372
Speaker 2: Tyler does may have know you discussing this. You could

2426
01:52:35,412 --> 01:52:37,892
Speaker 2: discuss this with her now instead of with a bunch

2427
01:52:37,893 --> 01:52:41,412
Speaker 2: of randoms so many opinions that don't matter. This was

2428
01:52:41,452 --> 01:52:43,732
Speaker 2: a special occasion. You've ruined it by talking about it

2429
01:52:43,732 --> 01:52:44,213
Speaker 2: on the radio.

2430
01:52:44,253 --> 01:52:45,972
Speaker 4: See. But that's the trust I have with So I'm

2431
01:52:45,973 --> 01:52:47,492
Speaker 4: not saying that this is what the text is. Yeah,

2432
01:52:47,492 --> 01:52:49,612
Speaker 4: that's the trust I have with our audience and and

2433
01:52:49,732 --> 01:52:53,213
Speaker 4: you dear text. But I suspect mayve knows I was

2434
01:52:53,213 --> 01:52:55,572
Speaker 4: going to talk about this because when I got the

2435
01:52:55,812 --> 01:52:58,213
Speaker 4: we eyebrows from people who are a bit more traditional,

2436
01:52:58,652 --> 01:53:00,412
Speaker 4: I thought I'd done the right thing. But I think

2437
01:53:00,412 --> 01:53:02,133
Speaker 4: this is important. There'll be a lot of fellas out

2438
01:53:02,133 --> 01:53:04,492
Speaker 4: there right now thinking, how cheap can I go with

2439
01:53:04,492 --> 01:53:05,812
Speaker 4: the placement hold a ring?

2440
01:53:06,492 --> 01:53:09,292
Speaker 2: Yeah, Matthew, how cheap can he go with a placeholder?

2441
01:53:09,293 --> 01:53:10,253
Speaker 2: When you're an next jeweler?

2442
01:53:12,293 --> 01:53:16,013
Speaker 25: Yeah, I used to work for myself and my specialty

2443
01:53:16,093 --> 01:53:20,092
Speaker 25: was custom making from from scratch, basically by the granules

2444
01:53:20,093 --> 01:53:23,732
Speaker 25: of gold, melt them down and that's it. So the

2445
01:53:24,013 --> 01:53:30,133
Speaker 25: first point is man made diamonds absolutely, not just just

2446
01:53:30,853 --> 01:53:32,852
Speaker 25: no one should buy a man made diamond.

2447
01:53:33,333 --> 01:53:35,812
Speaker 2: Can you tell that it's a man made diamond without

2448
01:53:35,812 --> 01:53:36,652
Speaker 2: your big jewelers?

2449
01:53:36,933 --> 01:53:41,572
Speaker 25: Absolutely, because that's perfect and no diamond is perfect.

2450
01:53:41,652 --> 01:53:42,892
Speaker 4: You can tell with the naked eye.

2451
01:53:43,812 --> 01:53:44,492
Speaker 14: Ah.

2452
01:53:44,532 --> 01:53:47,812
Speaker 2: Some Yeah, if you ask someone to If you ask

2453
01:53:48,133 --> 01:53:49,892
Speaker 2: a girl to marry you and you're down on her

2454
01:53:49,933 --> 01:53:51,972
Speaker 2: knee and she pulls out one of those she pulls

2455
01:53:51,973 --> 01:53:55,013
Speaker 2: out one of those first reaction, she pulls out like

2456
01:53:55,013 --> 01:53:56,492
Speaker 2: a jeweler's.

2457
01:53:56,133 --> 01:53:58,652
Speaker 4: Eye piece, then you know you screwed.

2458
01:53:58,812 --> 01:54:00,972
Speaker 2: No, you know you got the right one.

2459
01:54:01,213 --> 01:54:09,253
Speaker 25: No, just yeah, it's just there's been man or simulant

2460
01:54:09,253 --> 01:54:13,372
Speaker 25: diamonds forever. That started with Cubic Xiconia and then then

2461
01:54:13,452 --> 01:54:16,572
Speaker 25: Moss Nights and they just give this, you know, in

2462
01:54:16,652 --> 01:54:19,492
Speaker 25: this latest one is here they are carbon is where

2463
01:54:19,732 --> 01:54:24,372
Speaker 25: Cubic Ziconia wasn't. Yeah, but you can tell the difference

2464
01:54:24,412 --> 01:54:27,893
Speaker 25: because they are flawless, because you know, and that is

2465
01:54:27,572 --> 01:54:30,333
Speaker 25: that there's that otherwise a no, two diamonds are the same.

2466
01:54:31,492 --> 01:54:36,253
Speaker 25: So yeah, but just on that. When I when I

2467
01:54:36,293 --> 01:54:40,012
Speaker 25: was working for myself, as every girl wanted a carrot

2468
01:54:40,013 --> 01:54:45,932
Speaker 25: diamond ring and mister m h was selling carrot diamond

2469
01:54:46,013 --> 01:54:49,733
Speaker 25: rings for six ninety five, you know, six five hundred,

2470
01:54:50,133 --> 01:54:56,173
Speaker 25: and they're rubbish. They look like sugar. And yeah, my

2471
01:54:56,373 --> 01:54:59,132
Speaker 25: advice to a guy if you, if your partner wants

2472
01:54:59,293 --> 01:55:01,972
Speaker 25: a carrot diamond ring, have a talk with a jeweler

2473
01:55:02,693 --> 01:55:05,733
Speaker 25: and go for a better quality, slightly smaller diamond.

2474
01:55:06,493 --> 01:55:10,772
Speaker 2: Okay, did you, Yeah, Matthew, expect a call from Tyler.

2475
01:55:10,812 --> 01:55:13,093
Speaker 2: He's got fifty thousand dollars burning a hole in his

2476
01:55:13,133 --> 01:55:14,733
Speaker 2: pocket that he's really to spend on a ring.

2477
01:55:14,653 --> 01:55:16,173
Speaker 4: If you can give me a discount, Matthew, I'm all

2478
01:55:16,453 --> 01:55:18,772
Speaker 4: is one hundred and eighty. Ten eighty is number to call.

2479
01:55:18,973 --> 01:55:20,012
Speaker 4: It is eight to four.

2480
01:55:20,893 --> 01:55:24,293
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

2481
01:55:24,613 --> 01:55:28,733
Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks.

2482
01:55:28,733 --> 01:55:32,932
Speaker 4: That'd be very good afternoon, Jim, it is five to four.

2483
01:55:34,173 --> 01:55:36,892
Speaker 2: I already know what I would like my jeweler nose,

2484
01:55:36,933 --> 01:55:39,013
Speaker 2: So I just give my partner their business cards and

2485
01:55:39,053 --> 01:55:41,413
Speaker 2: he can decide if and when he wants to propose.

2486
01:55:42,093 --> 01:55:48,133
Speaker 2: So you just you go in choose the ring, get

2487
01:55:48,173 --> 01:55:50,093
Speaker 2: it or sort of with the jeweler, and then hand

2488
01:55:50,133 --> 01:55:51,892
Speaker 2: your partner a business card and say, look if at

2489
01:55:51,893 --> 01:55:54,212
Speaker 2: any point you want to propose, And that's that sort.

2490
01:55:54,053 --> 01:55:56,733
Speaker 4: Of yeah, yeah, that's my specified jeweler. That is love

2491
01:55:56,812 --> 01:55:57,133
Speaker 4: right there.

2492
01:55:57,173 --> 01:55:59,892
Speaker 2: How bloody romantic? Hey, Tyler, wouldn't you just give her

2493
01:55:59,933 --> 01:56:05,972
Speaker 2: a voucher dropping lovely dropping the in handover Michael Hill

2494
01:56:06,053 --> 01:56:06,733
Speaker 2: voucher just.

2495
01:56:06,653 --> 01:56:08,213
Speaker 4: In one of those little ring boxes. That would have

2496
01:56:08,253 --> 01:56:08,812
Speaker 4: been perfect.

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01:56:09,373 --> 01:56:12,173
Speaker 2: I hate this commercialism. She should have been happy with

2498
01:56:12,173 --> 01:56:17,373
Speaker 2: the rubber band. There you go, docking you know, you

2499
01:56:17,812 --> 01:56:21,213
Speaker 2: use the docking tool on her finger. Yeah, beautiful anyway,

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01:56:22,213 --> 01:56:24,333
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to the show. Everyone's

2501
01:56:24,333 --> 01:56:25,213
Speaker 2: great to be back, isn't it.

2502
01:56:25,213 --> 01:56:26,173
Speaker 4: Tyler, certainly is.

2503
01:56:26,333 --> 01:56:26,493
Speaker 12: Yeah.

2504
01:56:26,493 --> 01:56:28,253
Speaker 4: It felt like we never left and that's the way

2505
01:56:28,293 --> 01:56:28,812
Speaker 4: we like it.

2506
01:56:28,933 --> 01:56:32,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I was wondering if I could still broadcast.

2507
01:56:33,173 --> 01:56:36,573
Speaker 2: It turns out a cup the podcast will be up

2508
01:56:36,733 --> 01:56:39,772
Speaker 2: and about an hour or so, the Mighty Mighty Ryan

2509
01:56:39,812 --> 01:56:44,132
Speaker 2: Bridge is in next. But right now, Tyler, my good friend,

2510
01:56:44,173 --> 01:56:45,253
Speaker 2: why am I playing this song?

2511
01:56:45,373 --> 01:56:48,253
Speaker 4: Huey Lewis and the news The Power of Love replacement

2512
01:56:48,293 --> 01:56:50,173
Speaker 4: rings that says I love you man. There's a lot

2513
01:56:50,173 --> 01:56:50,693
Speaker 4: of power in that.

2514
01:56:50,973 --> 01:56:54,413
Speaker 2: Congratulations to you, and may thank you a lovely couple,

2515
01:56:54,493 --> 01:56:58,053
Speaker 2: and you should be together and bloody good on you

2516
01:56:58,173 --> 01:57:00,892
Speaker 2: for after ten years finally dropping an.

2517
01:57:00,933 --> 01:57:02,613
Speaker 4: Thank you mate. It's beautiful words.

2518
01:57:02,893 --> 01:57:06,733
Speaker 2: All right, we'll be back tomorrow. Until then, give him

2519
01:57:06,772 --> 01:57:08,493
Speaker 2: a taste of gey from us. Okay, all right, then,

2520
01:57:08,573 --> 01:57:08,812
Speaker 2: see you.

2521
01:57:08,933 --> 01:57:09,413
Speaker 4: I love you.

2522
01:57:09,413 --> 01:57:12,932
Speaker 2: Stay busy.

2523
01:57:17,573 --> 01:57:20,213
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01:57:20,293 --> 01:57:23,253
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