1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Beninda Brady, our UK correspondent, is with us evening. 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 2: Inda, Hey, heaven right, speaking again, what. 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Do you think Putin does now? 4 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 2: Things going to be very interesting there obviously will be 5 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 2: something and the big fear here is that he may 6 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 2: use a nuclear weapon. Now I don't think he's that stupid. 7 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 2: I actually spent some time last week interviewing the Russian 8 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 2: ambassador to the UK, and you've got to really sit 9 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 2: down and think after you speak to these people. And 10 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 2: the overriding sentiment I got from half an hour of 11 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 2: direct questioning with this guy is they want peace. He 12 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: said it about four times. Now when you look at 13 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: what they want, yes, okay, you can say you want piece. 14 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 2: He also wants a rather large piece of Ukraine. Now, 15 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: what he was saying to me was that they would 16 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: like to talk peace, but at the current boundaries, so 17 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: basically everyone keeps the land they have as of today, 18 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:56,319 Speaker 2: which would mean monumentally gains for the Russians. They'd get 19 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: basically the whole of don Yetsk, get the whole of 20 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 2: lu Hans that keep crying. Yeah, I could see Putin 21 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: being very happy with that. But the Ukrainians are not 22 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 2: going to give an inch. But in terms of what 23 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: he does next. I think we watch and wait, and 24 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 2: it's a really interesting interview in the newspapers today here 25 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: from the Chief of the Defense Staff, Sir Tony Radikin, 26 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: and he's calling on people to get resilient and get 27 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: ready for war. And earlier in the week we had 28 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 2: Sweden telling its citizens to prepare for war. So I think, 29 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't want to be scared mungery, 30 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: but these are very fraud times in Europe. 31 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: But into what are the chances that this is propaganda 32 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: and that it's designed knowing that the Russians will read it. 33 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: It's designed to send the message that there is resolve. 34 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 2: There is resolve. But I think if you look in 35 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: any kind of critical way of the UK defense forces 36 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: where they are numerically, they haven't been this small for 37 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 2: half a century. The money is not there. Britain can't 38 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: defend itself. They're pulling projects left, stright and center on 39 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 2: the military such side of things, just to save a 40 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 2: few hundred million here and there. Everything is going into 41 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 2: getting the economy moving and the health service to stop 42 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: it from crumbling completely. So there's no great appetite to 43 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 2: pump money into the military, and I think we're in 44 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: a very kind of dangerous time as to what he 45 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 2: does next. But he's not stupid yet. We know he's 46 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 2: we know he's extremely dangerous. He's far from stupid. 47 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: So I was reading the Telegraph earlier today and the 48 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: Defense Affair, the Defense and Foreign Affairs editor there was 49 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: making the case that now that Ukraine can use these 50 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: long range missiles from the US and the UK, it 51 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: actually means there is a chance for the first time 52 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: in quite a while for Ukraine to win. Do you 53 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 1: buy that? 54 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 2: No, absolutely not. It's a frozen stalemate. They do need 55 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 2: to see this sounds as unpalatable as this sounds to 56 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: everyone this war. Russia won't win it, Ukraine won't win it. 57 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: It is completely a frozen stalemate. And you know, I 58 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: said to the Russian ambassador the other day when I 59 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: saw him, you know your special operation that was going 60 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: to take three days, Well, we're now looking down the 61 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 2: barrel of a three year anniversary. And of course they 62 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 2: pick up and they deflect, and they don't want to 63 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 2: answer questions or address time scales. But I think, in 64 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 2: all honesty, what we're likely to see, I think at 65 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 2: some point in early next year peace talks and then 66 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: the Russians will say that Ukraine can never join NATO, 67 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: but had a push, they might be allowed into the 68 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 2: European Union. And by the way, we're keeping every inch 69 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: of land we've stolen from you since February twenty twenty two. 70 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: Hey, by the way, Jeremy Clark's ambastard, isn't he? 71 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, big time. So look he's done a lot of good. 72 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: And I come from a farming family in Ireland, my 73 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: grandparents and their grandparents and the whole way back where 74 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 2: dairy farmers in North County Longford. I've seen firsthand how 75 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 2: difficult it is to farm, how it takes over your life. 76 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 2: And I think in the UK Clarkson has done extraordinary 77 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 2: work showing ordinary people who are not farmers, what goes 78 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 2: on on a farm, how expensive everything is. You never 79 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: get a break, you're tied to the land. But a 80 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: bit of an own goal. This week he headed off 81 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 2: to Westminster to protest against inheritance tax changes brought in 82 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 2: by Keir Starmer. And it only affects the four percent 83 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 2: of the richest farms in the UK, so you've got 84 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: to be inheriting north of six million en z dollars 85 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 2: before you pay a cent of this new tax. It's 86 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: not going to affect your average working class farmers at all. 87 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 2: And Clarkson was asked the question, isn't it true that 88 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 2: you only bought your farm to avoid paying inheritance tax? 89 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 2: And Clarkson rounded on the reporter berated her and she 90 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: was quoting his words back to him. From twenty ten, 91 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 2: he gave an interview to the Sunday Time saying it 92 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: was a great way of avoiding inheritance tax to buy farmland. 93 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 2: And he's not the only one. There's a lot of 94 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 2: very very well healed people in the UK who have 95 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 2: invested in a novel money in farmland, and they're not farmers. 96 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 2: Andrew Lloyd Weber, you know, great at making. Yeah, I'm 97 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 2: not sure he'd know how to get John Deere out 98 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 2: of second gear. But there we are. 99 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 3: Into thanks very much appreciated Into Brady, UK Correspondent eight. 100 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 3: What it did to say the stale the war is 101 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 3: at a stalemate. I'm gonna have to sit down and negotiate. 102 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 3: And whose policy does that sound like? 103 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive listen live to 104 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 2: news talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 105 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio