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Speaker 1: Little bit of angst around the police targets the promise

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Speaker 1: five hundred new cops. We've still got nine months to go,

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Speaker 1: so while we're exercised, I don't know, but the claim

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Speaker 1: is from the unions that we've got fewer police officers

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Speaker 1: now then when the scheme was actually announced. The Police

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Speaker 1: Commissioner has already indicated that June twenty six looks like

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Speaker 1: a more achievable time frame for him. Associate Police Minister

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Speaker 1: Casey Costello was with us very good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 1: Is the claim true we have fewer police this morning

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Speaker 1: than we did when the scheme was announced.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we have our current numbers where it's there's we're

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Speaker 2: about one hundred and fifty less than we were for

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Speaker 2: We had three hundred recruits in college at the moment

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Speaker 2: and we're on track to put about six hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty recruits through the first half of this year. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: we're really positive. This had to be a big shift.

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Speaker 2: There was a real drive that when we came in

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Speaker 2: there was no one went through and seeing Brown January.

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Speaker 2: When first came into government, we had no recruitment pipeline.

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Speaker 2: We now have our fantastic pipeline. Over double the number

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Speaker 2: of applications last year than we had the previous year.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, we're really positive about where we're going.

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Speaker 1: So the six fifty you just gave us, that's the

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Speaker 1: five hundred, isn't it's the one fifty last plus five

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Speaker 1: So you will get there, you.

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Speaker 2: Say, yeah, we've got the We've got all now for

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Speaker 2: the attrition rate, so we're not taking the pressure off

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Speaker 2: where we're aiming to get to one hundred recruits in

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Speaker 2: each wing in the next couple of the next couple

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Speaker 2: of months, so that that will increase the flow. The

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Speaker 2: pressure's really gone on. But the upside is the quality

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Speaker 2: of the approach we're getting. The level of interest is

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Speaker 2: outstanding and really positive initiatives of Police of Dying. It's

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Speaker 2: a really great person campaign that will be starting announced

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Speaker 2: places today, which I'm really pleased about.

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Speaker 1: So sorry, we've got a recruitment program announcing today.

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Speaker 2: An advertising campaign, yeah, it's the commission will be launching

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Speaker 2: the video. It's really it's great. It's heartwarming stuff and

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Speaker 2: back to the old old days of what policing was

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Speaker 2: all about. The team that you're joining, the reason that

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Speaker 2: we do frontline policing, stuff, so really excited about it,

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Speaker 2: all all.

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Speaker 1: That fun stuff like rounding up gangs and yeah, and the.

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Speaker 2: Frontline community stuff that really, you know, that's why I

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Speaker 2: joined that. That was what policing was about, you being

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Speaker 2: part of the community, that part of services thick. And

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Speaker 2: that's the quality of recruits every wing. I go out

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Speaker 2: to see the graduation. It's just heartwarming that the quality

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Speaker 2: of people we're getting through.

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Speaker 1: It's the Police Commissioner write that it's more like June

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. So from the politics of it, you're

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Speaker 1: probably going to fail or can you sit here this

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Speaker 1: morning confidently say you will meet your target.

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Speaker 2: We're really confident now that we've got the pipeline going

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Speaker 2: through and the positive stuff. So we also have last figures,

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Speaker 2: I was going to over one hundred former police officers

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Speaker 2: that are trying to rejoin. So all of those factors,

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Speaker 2: and you know, we're vulnerable to attrition rates and when

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Speaker 2: attrition there peaks and troughs and attrition September genially at

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Speaker 2: a time we have a high attrition rate. So all

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Speaker 2: of those things are moving targets, and that months by

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Speaker 2: month's tracking isn't really helpful because it's veries based.

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Speaker 1: Upon the here thing, Casey. I mean, you guys deal

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Speaker 1: with the numbers and all of that, But part of

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Speaker 1: it's the vibe, isn't it. Part of it's the sense

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Speaker 1: is crime coming down? Are we feeling safe in our

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Speaker 1: cities and streets? Are the police doing their job? And

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Speaker 1: I don't think you can argue that they're not. We're

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Speaker 1: on the better side of this now, aren't we?

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Speaker 2: Exactly? Really positive stories, you know when I was had

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Speaker 2: in the podoke just recently, both early on the weekend,

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Speaker 2: you know, there's really positive energy and just outstanding, really

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Speaker 2: back to base, its frontline policing, and the vibe is

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Speaker 2: really positive, good stuff.

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Speaker 1: All right, nice to talk. Do you appreciate it? Casey Costello,

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Speaker 1: Associate policeman. It's the nine months ago. She's in charge

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Speaker 1: of the numbers. Hence we don't have Mitchell on the program.

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Speaker 2: You