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Speaker 1: Now it's time to talk about the gen zs. These

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Speaker 1: are the guys who were born between nineteen ninety seven

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Speaker 1: and twenty twelve. Now, according to new research, when they

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Speaker 1: were asked what their primary career goal was, only six

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Speaker 1: percent of the gen zs said that they want to

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Speaker 1: reach a leadership position. Rowan O'Neil Stevens is gen Z.

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Speaker 1: He's also the deputy mayor of Nelson and with us now, Rowan.

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Speaker 2: Hello, I cured a Heather, why don't.

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Speaker 1: You guys want to be leaders?

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Speaker 2: I'm not convinced that looking through the survey, it's as

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Speaker 2: much about not wanting to be leaders but more being

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Speaker 2: driven by other things within the workplace. I mean, when

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Speaker 2: you look at the top scoring results there, it's things

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Speaker 2: like maintaining a good work life balance and achieving financial independence,

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Speaker 2: which doesn't necessarily exclude leadership as a part of that.

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Speaker 1: Yees. So it's kind of like not wanting to go

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Speaker 1: for leadership for the sake of leadership with all the

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Speaker 1: burnout and all the stress and all of that stuff.

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Speaker 1: Is that right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? And I think it's critical to understand, especially I'm

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Speaker 2: always a skeptic when we talk in generational teens because

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Speaker 2: there's so much nuance to that, but understanding, you know,

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Speaker 2: gen Z's grown up through a time that's been sort

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Speaker 2: of focused on the risks and thread of climate change

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Speaker 2: of a mass development and technology, but also financial instability,

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Speaker 2: a housing crisis and the anxiety that goes along with that.

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Speaker 2: To me, it makes perfect sense that if you're asked

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Speaker 2: what your main goal out of your job is, it's

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Speaker 2: you want to live a happy life and for that

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Speaker 2: to be a part of it.

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Speaker 1: You guys have actually copped a lot of grief for

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Speaker 1: being unambitious, and this is not the only time that

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Speaker 1: you have. But is it actually maybe possible that what

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Speaker 1: you are is just actually wise beyond your years and

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Speaker 1: you just realize you don't have to spoil your life

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Speaker 1: with too much hard work, and what you want is

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Speaker 1: just a good life.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's very generous of you. But

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Speaker 2: I do think that increasingly that is the focus I

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Speaker 2: know within my friends is it's not that it's an

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Speaker 2: avoidance of leadership, but it's about looking at how can

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Speaker 2: I take steps to live as good life as possible?

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Speaker 2: And oftentimes leadership does fall into that, And you know,

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Speaker 2: I think about my own experiences leadership wasn't the goal

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Speaker 2: that was finding meaningful work that aligned with my values

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Speaker 2: and through that stumbled into positions of leadership.

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Speaker 1: Yep, now I'm talking to you because you're standing down,

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Speaker 1: aren't you? Why are you standing down?

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Speaker 2: Really sort of along those same lines of one wanting

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Speaker 2: to make space for new leaders to step up, but

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Speaker 2: also to find new challenges and new ways to find

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Speaker 2: meaning in my work and to contribute to our community.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, Hey, Rowan, thanks very much, appreciate it. Rowan O'Neil

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Speaker 1: Stevens gen Z, Deputy Mayor of Nelson, Standing Down. For

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