1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,719 Speaker 1: I get greenland in our own backyard. We've got growing 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: action in the Pacific between America and China. This is 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: not breaking news, but the States is trying to renew 4 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: its strategic compact ties as we speak with places like 5 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: Palau and the Marshals, and the testimony in front of 6 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: the House Committee on Natural Resources suggests China is waging 7 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: a sustain This is America. China is waging a sustained 8 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: influence campaign aimed at weakening democratic institutions and strategic alignment 9 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: and the Pacific. Now, this is all good news for US, 10 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 1: as far as they can work out, given it felt 11 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: like America wasn't that overtly interested in the Pacific these 12 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: past few years. But Trump seems active everywhere, so the 13 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 1: more they're alert to what's going on. The better downside, though, 14 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: is there appears nothing we can do despite the efforts 15 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: of US and Australia. Too many Pacific nations these days 16 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: have gone to a degree with China, and that is 17 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: for the simple reason of money, in whatever form. Places 18 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: with no do tend to like large checks. And when 19 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: our moderate science checks got replaced with much bigger checks, 20 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: the writing I would have thought was on the wall 21 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: now the cooks as you're best and closest example. Of course, 22 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: we can withhold aid until we are blue in the face. 23 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: It is not going to make a jot of difference. 24 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: Enter Winston Peters, who I always thought had a good 25 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: advantage of experience in matters like this, and it has 26 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: and is making him a very able foreign minister. But 27 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 1: he's come on the show a number of times and 28 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: argued the value of friendship. As I pointed out the 29 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: cold hard reality of Chinese money and promises, he counters 30 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: with what seems to be this genuine belief that friendship 31 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,559 Speaker 1: actually matters. Now I fear that's an old man talking. 32 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: Is view muddled or muddied by a bygone era and 33 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: some hope and some good vibes. It'll be nice to 34 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: think friendship was a thing, but it doesn't beat dollars. 35 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: I can tell you that some of the Pacific We'll 36 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: still say it could have been different if we in 37 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: Australia had been more generous over the years. But I 38 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: don't believe that for a minute. Either. China are here 39 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: and they're shopping. The upside is America at last is 40 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: not just woken up. But they might just be awaken, 41 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: alarmed enough to do something about it. For more from 42 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: the mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to news talks that'd 43 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: be from six am weekdays, or follow the podcast on 44 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio