1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Tony Quinn grew up in a wooden caravan built by 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: his dad in Aberdeen before becoming himself made millionaire through 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: pet food and confectionery we know and better these days 4 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: for motorsport. He's the visionary behind Highlands and Hampton Downs 5 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: and Tapa. Of course, his book zero to sixty and 6 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: Beyond has been re released. It's got ten new chapters 7 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: and there's a story in that and Tony Quinn's weather's tiny. 8 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: Very good morning to you. Good morning, yup, nice and 9 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: early in Australia. I take it here in Australia, are you. 10 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, some in Australia and it's the sun's up. But 11 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 2: unfortunately to no, it's not a very nice day today, 12 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 2: so we'll we'll have to put on an extra T shirt. 13 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: Good you write the stuff down. I refer to the 14 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: extra teen chapters. You're a believer in writing down what's 15 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: happening in your life? Why and for what value? 16 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: Oh gee, it's a bit of a story. But it 17 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 2: started when my grandfather passed away and my grandfather, who 18 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: was Irish, got involved in the IRA when he was 19 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 2: a young fella and he had a fantastic interesting life 20 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,559 Speaker 2: and we heard his stories. Throughout his life. He would 21 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: share some of them, but he was quite quiet about 22 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 2: his activities, and when he died, there was nothing written down, 23 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: and so there was no official record, if you like, 24 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: of his life. And I said to myself that I 25 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: would hate to do that because it's one of the 26 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 2: missing links in life if you don't know what your 27 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: heritage is. So I decided that I would write down 28 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: my exciting life that I was having and in one 29 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 2: day write not a book. It was just going to 30 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 2: write my story so that the generations behind me could 31 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: read all about why I did the things that I did. 32 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 2: And that's how it started. So I got these black books, 33 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: things that you buy from the shop, and every time 34 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: i'm on an I had a plan or whatever. If 35 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 2: I get a minute spare, I'll write the date at 36 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 2: the top of the page, and I'll write down all 37 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: the things that have happened since the last time I wrote. 38 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 2: And it could be a month, it could be two months. 39 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. But when you write the date and 40 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 2: you start writing things that have happened, you can remember 41 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 2: all the stuff that happened, and you just need to 42 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 2: put a bullet point. It doesn't need to be the 43 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 2: whole story, just a bullet point that reminds you, and 44 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 2: then one day the thing is to then just recorded 45 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 2: or put it down. And I met a guy called 46 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 2: Robert Toy in New Zealand and I said would you 47 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 2: He was a freelance journalist and I said, would you 48 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 2: be interested in writing my story? And he said, yeah, 49 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 2: no problem. So he did. But as he was writing 50 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: the story, he said, man, this is this is such 51 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: an interesting story that you should share it with other people, 52 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 2: not just your family. And I said, I don't really care, 53 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 2: that's not the point. In anyway, one thing led to another. 54 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 2: The publish got hold of it, they decided to publish it, 55 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 2: and it became very surprisingly. It became a number one 56 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 2: best seller in New Zealand and we actually never released 57 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: it in Australia for some reason. So anyway, the book 58 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: was reprinted a couple of times, and on the fifth time, 59 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: Josie said, look, we're going to have to reprint the 60 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 2: book again. It just keeps selling and I said, no, 61 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 2: I don't want to do that. It's too old. It's 62 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: seven eight years old. Why don't we do a revised 63 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: edition because it has been so much happen in the 64 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: last seven years that I think there's a lot that 65 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 2: people you know, the continuation of the story if you like. 66 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 2: But also, Mike, I wanted to share. I genuinely wanted 67 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: to share some of my business philosophies and tricks for 68 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 2: want of a bit of term, because I'd started doing 69 00:03:55,440 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: some university talks to young business entrepreneurs and I found 70 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 2: that quite enlightening and they loved it. And so in 71 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 2: the book, the new book, there's a chapter there a 72 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: bit how simply you can make money in this life. 73 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 2: It's not difficult, it's not complicated. In fact, it's very simple. 74 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 2: It's it's it's you know, it's it's I say it's easy, 75 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 2: but a lot of people don't think it's easy. But 76 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: I actually think it's quite easy to make. However much 77 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 2: money you want to make. 78 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: Well, there's a funny story in the book where you 79 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: dreamed or wanted to make a million dollars a week 80 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: and when you when you got the you couldn't believe. 81 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: Are you driven by money or are you driven by success? 82 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 2: No? Absolutely not. I'm not driven by money. Money is 83 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 2: a byproduct of hard work and good decisions. That's all 84 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 2: it is. In fact, the more money you make, the 85 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 2: more tax you pay, and you know, and the more 86 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: the government pounds you for more money. So but no money. 87 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 2: And I think that's evident because when I go on 88 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 2: a racetrack, you're actually competing with a whole heap of 89 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 2: other people that are all trying to do the same thing. 90 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 2: So it's all about the game. It's all about you know. 91 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: As a young fella, I managed to win a chess championship. 92 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 2: I knew nothing about chess, but I quickly learned how 93 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 2: to play the game, and I won a championship in chess. 94 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: So I've always liked the challenge and the winning. There's 95 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 2: no better place to stand than on the podium. 96 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: Tony, you sort of answered it before, But to a degree, 97 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: you come from a time and a place. You start young, 98 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: you start with nothing, you make a fortune. Do you 99 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: think a young person born ten years ago, fifteen years ago, 100 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: in the world in which we now live, can still 101 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: do that and live that story. 102 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 2: I don't want to sound weird, but I actually think 103 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 2: it's easier today than it's ever been. And the reason 104 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: to say that is one of the main ingredients to 105 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 2: be successful in life and business is to work hard, 106 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 2: And I can tell you that when I was a 107 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: young fella, I'm going to say a lot of people 108 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 2: worked very hard because that was what they did, and 109 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 2: so you were just one of the many people that 110 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 2: work hard. Nowadays, as I look around, as culture society 111 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 2: has designed it, a lot of young people don't really 112 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 2: work that hard, and so if they're prepared to work hard, 113 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 2: it actually is easier for them. Now it's all different 114 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 2: and a lot of young people doing like Picca is. 115 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 2: But working hard is really just that working hard, and 116 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 2: that doesn't mean digging holes for twelve hours a day. 117 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 2: It means focusing on whatever you're doing for twelve hours 118 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 2: a day. Twelve hours is a long time and you 119 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 2: can achieved so much in that time, and so I 120 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 2: do I think absolutely humans have done it all along 121 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 2: their journey. You know, the generations before us, and I'm 122 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 2: sure the generations are after us. Will The problem that 123 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 2: we've got not a problem that we've got, but the 124 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 2: issue that we've got is that the world keeps changing. 125 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 2: You know, we had COVID, nobody saw that coming. We've 126 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 2: got cryptocurrency. You know, nobody saw that coming, even you know, 127 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 2: and what is that? And do we do I understand it. No, 128 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: but young people will understand it. I just spent ten 129 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: days in Italy and saw what the Romans did two 130 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 2: thousand years ago. It was fantastic that they did so No, 131 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 2: I think young people today can certainly make their way 132 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 2: in life very successfully. And you know, I mean you 133 00:07:54,960 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: and I might we wonder at YouTube stars and Instagram 134 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 2: influences of that just wasn't a career choice when we 135 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 2: were at school. 136 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: It is what's your thinking around family and wealth in 137 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: terms of do you help your family now because you 138 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: can more than you might have, or do they have 139 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: to make their own way in the world. 140 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 2: Nobody knows the answer to that. Make it's a conundrum 141 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:26,679 Speaker 2: that everybody that's been successful and made money and life 142 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 2: is not about money. It's just one of the things. 143 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 2: But money is a tool and it can be used 144 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 2: in a positive fashion or it can be used in 145 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 2: a negative kind of fashion, and nobody knows the answer. 146 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 2: I've spoken to many, many successful, wealthy people, and we 147 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 2: all wonder what the best thing to do is with 148 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 2: our families. I chose to basically give my family enough 149 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 2: wealth that they can do something with earlier in life 150 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 2: because they had achieved they'd helped old my empare, and 151 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 2: so I gave them a share of it early so 152 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 2: they could go on and achieve things in their life. 153 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 2: And they've all done different things, so you know, nobody 154 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 2: can tell that one. I don't know what the answer is. 155 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: One of the things you have done is giving back 156 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 1: to motor racing in this country, of course, and you've 157 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: set up various foundations. You're helping a lot of people. 158 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 1: And one of the people you helped early on as 159 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: a young man called Liam Lawson, who this coming weekend 160 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: is turning up in Austin, Texas. And you must be 161 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: as we all are, as excited as anybody. 162 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, Liam's a great driver, and he proved 163 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 2: himself actually at Highlands at the Grand Prix when he 164 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 2: passed Marcus Armstrong on the outside of the last corner, 165 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 2: which is a very brave move to do, especially in 166 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 2: the damp. So he got signed up by Red Bull 167 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 2: the next week. But there's many, many other talented kiwis. 168 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what happens over there, 169 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 2: but there's a lot of talented kiwis that can drive 170 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 2: very well and on the world stage at the moment. 171 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 2: You know, we've got McLaughlin and Shane van Gisberg and 172 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 2: over in America. They had a fantastic job and both 173 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: of them, you know, guys have been involved with as well. 174 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 2: And you know, I'm just very pleased to see all 175 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 2: these young fellas doing very well. 176 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: It must be tremendously satisfying having watched you for a 177 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: number of years and all that. It must be of 178 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: all the things you've done on the stages of your life, 179 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: this must be the golden time. I mean, you're giving back, 180 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: you're successful, you live your life the way you want 181 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: to live it. I mean, you can't ask for anything 182 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: more than that, can you. 183 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 2: No? And as Dan Gaunt would say, it's my purple patch. 184 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 2: I don't know what that means that he keeps calling 185 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 2: it the purple patch. But I'm very very happy with life, Mike. 186 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 2: I mean, I can't ask for anything more. You're quite right. 187 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 2: I'm sixty seven years old. This weekend I'm going to 188 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 2: Sydney to race a Porsch GD four. And when they 189 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 2: say race, I don't race anymore. I just go round 190 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 2: and round, you know. But I have a fantastic life 191 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 2: and have very recently bought a farm in Brisbane, and 192 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 2: literally in Brisbane. I mean it was established in eighteen sixty. 193 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 2: That's so old it is. And I just love it there. 194 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 2: I just love the rurals. I mean, I'm surrounded by suburbs, 195 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 2: but I just love it. 196 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: Good on you, well, congratulations again on the book number 197 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: one best seller. Let's try it again, zero to sixteen beyond. 198 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: Tony Quinn, owner of Hampton Downs and Highlands and Tapa 199 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: and Big and Motorsport and all that sort of thing. 200 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: But it's a great read, this great story, and plenty 201 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: of motivation there for you. For more from the Mic 202 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: Asking Breakfast, listen live to news talks. It'd be from 203 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: six am weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio