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Speaker 2: Hello there you, good afternoon, and welcome into the Saturday

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Speaker 2: edition of Weekend Sport on News Talks ed B. December sixth,

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Speaker 2: Happy twenty ninth birthday to black Caps all around the Glen Phillips.

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Speaker 2: Today I'm Jason Pine Show producer Today Corbyn Boyd. We're

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Speaker 2: here until three talking sport, a big football show for you.

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Speaker 2: In large part today the draw for the twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: six feet for World Cup made this morning in Washington, DC. Eventually,

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Speaker 2: with your Whites landing in Group G, New Zealand will

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Speaker 2: play Iran in their opener in either Los Angeles or

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Speaker 2: Seattle on June fifteen, that is June sixteen, News in Time,

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Speaker 2: Egypt in La or Vancouver six days later, and Belgium

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Speaker 2: in Seattle or Vancouver five days after that. Iran Egypt, Belgium.

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Speaker 2: How does that stack up? As a group head coach

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Speaker 2: Darren Baisley standing by the chat to us from Washington,

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Speaker 2: DC after this morning's draw. Kee de defend of Michael

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Speaker 2: Boxer as well, who knows a bit about football in

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Speaker 2: the United States, having spent the last decade with Minnesota United.

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Speaker 2: How are the team feeling about this draw and how

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Speaker 2: are they placed? Seven months out from a return to

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Speaker 2: the FIFA World Cup. Your thoughts are welcome too. Can

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Speaker 2: we get out of this group? Feels like it right,

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Speaker 2: It's way better than it could have been. No easy

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Speaker 2: and you think there are results to be had. So

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Speaker 2: a lot of football discussion around the World Cup this

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Speaker 2: out and after two going to zero in on a

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Speaker 2: domestic clash which has very quickly become compulsory sports viewing

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Speaker 2: the New Zealand A League men's derby Auckland FC and

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Speaker 2: the Wellington Phoenix Go Media Stadium from five o'clock this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Both coaches on the show after two. Steve Couric are

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Speaker 2: going to join us in Gianclo, Italiana as well after

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Speaker 2: two o'clock and your thoughts on the Darby two. Can

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Speaker 2: Willington finally win one of these things? Beautiful day in

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Speaker 2: Auckland today compared to a week ago when Auckland do

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Speaker 2: you see it to pland torrential rain against the Newcastle

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Speaker 2: Jets are much better today other matters around today, the

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Speaker 2: stoush has intensified between those pushing for a franchise based

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Speaker 2: T twenty cricket competition here and a consortium in support

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Speaker 2: of the governing body New Zealand Cricket further weighing up options.

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Speaker 2: An open letter was sent out on Thursday, signed by

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Speaker 2: fifteen former national representatives questioning whether the NZ twenty proposal

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Speaker 2: should go ahead, and they made some rather interesting claims

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Speaker 2: in that letter. One of the signatory's, former international Richard Petrie,

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Speaker 2: going to join us after one and we will look

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Speaker 2: forward to getting your calls and thoughts on that as well.

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Speaker 2: Very sad news meantime in the cricket world this week

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Speaker 2: the passing of former England batsman Robin Smith at the

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Speaker 2: age of just sixty two. Former New Zealand opener Brian

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Speaker 2: Young established a strong friendship with Robin Smith, having played

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Speaker 2: against him several times during the nineties. He's going to

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Speaker 2: join us to pay tribute. Adam Peacock and his regular

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Speaker 2: slot too, with Australian sporting matters, including the Soakaroos World

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Speaker 2: Cup group and the Second Ashes Test, which has already

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Speaker 2: gone longer than the first one. We start day three

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Speaker 2: but later on today and we'll play a sporting chants.

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Speaker 2: Your opportunity to place a one hundred and fifty dollars

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Speaker 2: live sport to keep eyes on this afternoon. Day five

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Speaker 3: That seems out of reach.

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Speaker 2: But well, the two West Indies players at the crease

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Speaker 2: at the moment are looking very very good. Indeed, Shay

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Speaker 2: it is a rather depleted New Zealand bowling attack too

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Speaker 2: I don't think five thirty one is in their wretch.

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Speaker 2: eyes on that for you. And some blanket shield action

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Speaker 2: around the place. And the third round of Golf's Australian

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Speaker 2: Open underway at Royal Melbourne. Five kiwis have made the cup.

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Speaker 2: Ryan Fox and Daniel Hillier are the best of them.

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Speaker 2: Both six under Hillia underway around one seventeen this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Ryan Fox is on the tea at one twenty eight.

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Speaker 2: They're already out on course in round three. We will

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Speaker 2: The All Whites will face Belgium, Egypt and Iran and

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Speaker 2: Group G at next year's FIFA World Cup. New Zealand

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Speaker 2: was the forty eighth and final ball plucked out in

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Speaker 2: the first ever draw of that size. Ice hockey's greatest

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Speaker 2: Wayne Gretzky, announcing their name to the world New Zealand.

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Speaker 4: And finally New Zealand thanks to the expansion of the

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Speaker 4: tournament to forty eighteens. The All Whites are the first

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Speaker 2: So Belgium are eighth in the world, Iran a twentieth

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Speaker 2: and Egypt are thirty fourth. For reference, New Zealand currently

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Speaker 2: eighty sixth in the world. That does sound like a

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Speaker 2: constrict a little bit, you know, certainly in a one

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Speaker 2: off situation like a World Cup match. Now, the full

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Speaker 2: match schedule is released tomorrow, but the All Whites know

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Speaker 2: their first game will be against Iran, then Egypt, then

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Speaker 2: Belgium with fixtures and either Los Angeles, Seattle or Vancouver.

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Speaker 2: All Whites coach Darren Baisley is with US out of Washington,

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Speaker 2: d C. Where he was present this morning to see

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Speaker 2: the drawer play out. What do you make of it? Bays, Iran, Egypt,

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Speaker 5: I think it's a good group.

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Speaker 6: You know, we knew coming into it, you know that

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Speaker 6: any group was going to be challenging. You know, they're

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Speaker 5: You know, they're good teams. They're all good teams, and

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Speaker 6: Wait till the very last ball coming out to to

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Speaker 5: But yeah, it's a good it's a good group, exciting group.

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Speaker 3: As you say.

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Speaker 2: The way the drawer played out, the groups are filled

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Speaker 2: Pop four where New Zealand was So did you look

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure we want to be in there.

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Speaker 6: There was definitely a couple of there was a couple

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Speaker 6: of really tough groups, yeah, really really tough groups, and

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Speaker 6: a couple of groups go that would be a good one.

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Speaker 6: That would be a good one. And you know, I

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Speaker 6: challenge we now face. You know, we've got one of

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Speaker 6: they're very good, you know. And then the Pop two

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Speaker 6: and I think some of those some of those groups

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Speaker 2: So when you look at the three matches you have

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Speaker 2: So do you naturally target the game against Egypt, for example,

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Speaker 6: I mean we'll go into every game trying to win

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Speaker 6: I think they're all going to be slightly different games,

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Speaker 2: And as far as the schedule is concerned, you don't

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Speaker 2: is that right? Will it be I run Egypt Belgium?

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Speaker 6: I think as far as I know that's right, I

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Speaker 6: think you're right with that. And we know that we're

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Speaker 6: We don't know the exact one yet, but yeah, I

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Speaker 2: And up till now, I mean you qualified in March Bays.

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Speaker 2: the state's been in the diary is okay, we're going

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Speaker 2: to find out who we play. Have you been able

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Speaker 2: to plan in any way, any significant way up till

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Speaker 6: It's I mean, it's so random. There were so many

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Speaker 6: could be there. I think the probabilities were like endless

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Speaker 6: But yeah, I think it was drawers are pretty random.

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Speaker 2: Exciting time space. You know who you're playing now, you

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Speaker 3: Good to chat base, Good on you mate.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, Darren, and know it's been a

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Speaker 2: That's Darren Baisley out of Washington, DC, coach of the

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Speaker 2: This is News Talks EDB and the World Cup draw

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Speaker 2: keen to kick this around? Also, if you or had

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Speaker 2: so far in the sinnings. I may may have picked

432
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Speaker 2: up or I thought I picked up on something like

433
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Speaker 2: that last night when he there was a suggestion that

434
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Speaker 2: he might not be able to bowl on the fifth

435
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Speaker 2: and final day either. So it looks like it might

436
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Speaker 2: just be Folks, Duffy, Bracewell and Ravendra who are in

437
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Speaker 2: charge of getting these final five western these wickets on

438
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Speaker 2: text Line's open spere one there for you if you

439
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Speaker 2: want to jump on O eight hundred and eighty ten

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Speaker 2: eighty text says, good afternoon, Jason. If the your Whites

441
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Speaker 2: are to have any chance to pick up wins against

442
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Speaker 2: Iran and Egypt, we need fully fit players to start

443
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Speaker 2: the matches. The only area of our game I'm really

444
00:21:56,747 --> 00:21:59,627
Speaker 2: worried about is that we have no good backup for

445
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Speaker 2: Chris Wood. Since Ben Wayne left Wellington Phoenix, he's taken

446
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Speaker 2: a bit of a step backwards. He needs to get

447
00:22:05,027 --> 00:22:06,467
Speaker 2: back to the A League, get some formed back in

448
00:22:06,507 --> 00:22:09,547
Speaker 2: his game, and he needs goals that normally build up confidence.

449
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Speaker 2: It's a great point that you make. Ben Wayne is

450
00:22:13,667 --> 00:22:16,107
Speaker 2: now playing at Port Vale and the third tier of

451
00:22:16,707 --> 00:22:21,187
Speaker 2: English football and has been very very underutilized, shall we say,

452
00:22:21,227 --> 00:22:24,147
Speaker 2: In fact, he's hardly played. He's hardly played and Darren

453
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Speaker 2: Basley said there we need a fully fit squad, but

454
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Speaker 2: we also need players playing now. The squad size for

455
00:22:31,187 --> 00:22:34,267
Speaker 2: the World Cup next year is twenty six. You can

456
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Speaker 2: take between twenty three and twenty six as the latest

457
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Speaker 2: information that we have. There's been no real confirmation of this.

458
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Speaker 2: Normally the squad size has been twenty three. It was

459
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Speaker 2: twenty six and cutter, but that was mainly around the

460
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Speaker 2: COVID situation at that time. But as I understand the

461
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Speaker 2: latest intellers you can take twenty six players. So I'm

462
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Speaker 2: not sure that Ben Wayne is currently in that twenty

463
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Speaker 2: six anyway, that's maybe a discussion for another day. Must's

464
00:23:03,307 --> 00:23:04,827
Speaker 2: find I don't know much about football, but they all

465
00:23:04,827 --> 00:23:07,747
Speaker 2: sound pretty beatable, don't they Belgium I think will be

466
00:23:07,867 --> 00:23:10,067
Speaker 2: very tough. You know, we're talking about a team in

467
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Speaker 2: the top ten in the world. You know, you look

468
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Speaker 2: at some of the players they have at their disposal

469
00:23:15,547 --> 00:23:18,027
Speaker 2: and you know that they had a bit of a

470
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Speaker 2: golden generation a wee while ago, which never really came

471
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Speaker 2: to fruition in terms of getting results at big tournaments.

472
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Speaker 2: But they were unbeaten in European qualifying five wins and

473
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Speaker 2: three draws. Kevin de Bruyner, who many people will remember

474
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Speaker 2: from his time at Manchester City now playing at Napoli,

475
00:23:37,867 --> 00:23:42,347
Speaker 2: is probably their biggest star. Leandro Trossar out of Arsenal,

476
00:23:42,947 --> 00:23:47,667
Speaker 2: Manchester City's Jeremy Doccu and Romulu Lukaku also at Napoli.

477
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Speaker 2: With Kevin de Bruyne, they're a major attacking threats. As

478
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Speaker 2: I say, by the time we get to there, by

479
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Speaker 2: the time we get to the Belgium game, which is

480
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Speaker 2: the last of the games for the All Whites at

481
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Speaker 2: this World Cup, you'd have to hope that they would

482
00:24:00,467 --> 00:24:03,227
Speaker 2: have done enough in the first two to be in

483
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Speaker 2: with a really, really good chance of making it through

484
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Speaker 2: the first two games. That are probably the ones, in fact,

485
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Speaker 2: definitely the ones which New Zealand will be targeting as

486
00:24:14,667 --> 00:24:20,667
Speaker 2: as winnable in the group stages. So Belgium, Egypt and

487
00:24:20,667 --> 00:24:24,227
Speaker 2: Iran at the FIFA World Cup. One of the most

488
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Speaker 2: important members of the All Whites is Michael Boxel. He's

489
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Speaker 2: been based in the United States for the last decade

490
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Speaker 2: with Minnesota United in Major League Soccer and he joins US. Now,

491
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Speaker 2: what do you make of it, Michael, Belgium, Egypt and Iran.

492
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Speaker 2: How do you feel about that as a as a

493
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Speaker 2: group at the World Cup next year?

494
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Speaker 9: Yeah, as they were pulling out all the teams out

495
00:24:46,067 --> 00:24:49,747
Speaker 9: of Pop four, there was Yeah, some tough groups need

496
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Speaker 9: to be filled, so yeah, it could have been a

497
00:24:52,427 --> 00:24:54,707
Speaker 9: lot worse. Obviously, it's going to be three very very

498
00:24:54,707 --> 00:24:59,947
Speaker 9: difficult games, but no exciting. Obviously we qualified way back

499
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Speaker 9: in March, which feels like a lifetime ago, and just

500
00:25:02,907 --> 00:25:05,427
Speaker 9: kind of counted down to today and yeah, glad to

501
00:25:05,507 --> 00:25:07,147
Speaker 9: finally get games on the books.

502
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Speaker 7: Now.

503
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Speaker 2: Indeed, we'll find out tomorrow where exactly you'll play each

504
00:25:10,787 --> 00:25:12,227
Speaker 2: of these teams, but the group is going to be

505
00:25:12,307 --> 00:25:15,347
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles, Seattle, and Vancouver.

506
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Speaker 3: Have you played regularly in one or all of those cities?

507
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Speaker 9: Yeah, As Minnesota. We're in the Western Conference, so we

508
00:25:24,867 --> 00:25:27,587
Speaker 9: plan all of those cities. Yeah, at least once every year.

509
00:25:27,867 --> 00:25:29,707
Speaker 9: So yeah, pretty familiar.

510
00:25:29,987 --> 00:25:33,667
Speaker 2: And in terms of June and July weather wise, what

511
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Speaker 2: what are we talking box? Is it going to be

512
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Speaker 2: in the in the high twenties early thirties as we

513
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Speaker 2: understand it. I know you work on fahrenheit now, but

514
00:25:41,787 --> 00:25:44,787
Speaker 2: will it be Will it be comfortable playing in June

515
00:25:44,867 --> 00:25:45,667
Speaker 2: in those places?

516
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Speaker 9: I think it would be. Seattle's probably a similar climate

517
00:25:51,147 --> 00:25:57,827
Speaker 9: to a Kiwi summer, so yeah, probably in the mid twenties.

518
00:25:58,587 --> 00:26:00,427
Speaker 9: I mean, still potential for rain in those areas, but

519
00:26:00,467 --> 00:26:03,267
Speaker 9: I think I'm pretty sure La as well as Vancouver

520
00:26:03,347 --> 00:26:09,627
Speaker 9: stadiums are covered and indoors or yeah, rain when sun won't

521
00:26:09,627 --> 00:26:12,187
Speaker 9: be too much of a factor there. So I'm definitely

522
00:26:12,227 --> 00:26:15,187
Speaker 9: lucky to avoid the humidity of the East Coast and

523
00:26:15,307 --> 00:26:16,587
Speaker 9: Texas and Florida for sure.

524
00:26:16,667 --> 00:26:17,627
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was going to say so.

525
00:26:17,667 --> 00:26:19,507
Speaker 2: On the other side, on the Eastern Seaboard, there will

526
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Speaker 2: be some more uncomfortable playing conditions for some of the

527
00:26:21,747 --> 00:26:23,307
Speaker 2: teams drawn into groups over there.

528
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Speaker 9: Yeah, absolutely, those Like whenever I get my own Molestra,

529
00:26:26,867 --> 00:26:29,947
Speaker 9: I just beg. We don't have a Houston or or

530
00:26:30,027 --> 00:26:34,707
Speaker 9: Florida away in June July, because those are nightmares to play.

531
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Speaker 2: So how do you evaluate where your Whites are? As

532
00:26:37,587 --> 00:26:40,267
Speaker 2: you say, qualification was secured back in March, the team's

533
00:26:40,267 --> 00:26:42,587
Speaker 2: been together fairly regularly in the time since, with some

534
00:26:42,667 --> 00:26:45,227
Speaker 2: good quality matches. How do you evaluate where you are

535
00:26:45,387 --> 00:26:47,347
Speaker 2: six months, seven months out from the World Cup.

536
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think each window we've had at least one

537
00:26:52,067 --> 00:26:56,107
Speaker 9: kind of really solid performance and then the other where

538
00:26:56,107 --> 00:26:58,907
Speaker 9: we've i don't know, made a few changes or not

539
00:26:58,987 --> 00:27:01,667
Speaker 9: been able to match the level that we didn't in

540
00:27:01,467 --> 00:27:04,827
Speaker 9: the previous match. So I think we're in a good spot.

541
00:27:04,867 --> 00:27:07,067
Speaker 9: I think the most important thing for us now is

542
00:27:07,347 --> 00:27:10,387
Speaker 9: we need to get everybody healthy and playing really and

543
00:27:10,427 --> 00:27:12,747
Speaker 9: fully fit. I think we haven't. I don't think base

544
00:27:12,787 --> 00:27:19,667
Speaker 9: has had a fully healthy squad select from since maybe June,

545
00:27:19,707 --> 00:27:22,107
Speaker 9: which is always a tricky window for the European guys

546
00:27:22,187 --> 00:27:25,427
Speaker 9: coming off in the middle of their off season. So yeah,

547
00:27:25,467 --> 00:27:27,987
Speaker 9: I'd just like to see us fully fit. Obviously, Woodsy

548
00:27:28,427 --> 00:27:31,827
Speaker 9: keep it healthy. Libby as well obviously huge pieces for

549
00:27:31,947 --> 00:27:34,707
Speaker 9: us if we really want to want to be firing

550
00:27:34,787 --> 00:27:36,547
Speaker 9: come June twenty twenty six.

551
00:27:37,067 --> 00:27:40,467
Speaker 2: With qualification secured, as you say back in March, no

552
00:27:40,547 --> 00:27:42,667
Speaker 2: doubt you're talking about the World Cup. Before today, you

553
00:27:42,707 --> 00:27:44,147
Speaker 2: didn't know who you were playing, that sort of thing.

554
00:27:44,147 --> 00:27:46,387
Speaker 2: But how driven are you as a playing group to

555
00:27:46,947 --> 00:27:48,387
Speaker 2: make a bit of history of this World Cup, a

556
00:27:48,427 --> 00:27:50,187
Speaker 2: first ever one perhaps getting out of the group for

557
00:27:50,227 --> 00:27:52,467
Speaker 2: the first time at a senior means World Cup.

558
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think that's kind of what we've been talking

559
00:27:55,947 --> 00:27:59,467
Speaker 9: about behind closed doors, and I'm pretty sure I've mentioned

560
00:27:59,467 --> 00:28:02,067
Speaker 9: it to a few times before, where it's a lot

561
00:28:02,067 --> 00:28:05,987
Speaker 9: of these guys were motivated and inspired by the twenty

562
00:28:05,987 --> 00:28:08,507
Speaker 9: ten in South Africa and so they want to turn

563
00:28:08,547 --> 00:28:10,907
Speaker 9: around and do the same thing to all the young

564
00:28:10,987 --> 00:28:14,347
Speaker 9: kiwi's playing in New Zealand now. So I think that's yeah,

565
00:28:14,387 --> 00:28:17,267
Speaker 9: winning getting picking up our first first win, and then

566
00:28:18,067 --> 00:28:21,427
Speaker 9: I don't think getting out of the group is is

567
00:28:21,427 --> 00:28:25,227
Speaker 9: super unrealistic with kind of the performance that we're performances

568
00:28:25,227 --> 00:28:27,747
Speaker 9: that we've put together in the last two or three windows.

569
00:28:28,227 --> 00:28:31,387
Speaker 2: Have you seen some excitement in the United States about

570
00:28:31,387 --> 00:28:33,867
Speaker 2: the World Cup next year or are we too far

571
00:28:33,947 --> 00:28:35,667
Speaker 2: out for that to have happened just yet.

572
00:28:37,187 --> 00:28:39,027
Speaker 9: I think there's always a little bit of buzz, a

573
00:28:39,027 --> 00:28:42,987
Speaker 9: little bit of mentioned about it, But I think today's

574
00:28:43,427 --> 00:28:47,627
Speaker 9: the hottest my phone's been since since back in March probably,

575
00:28:47,707 --> 00:28:50,667
Speaker 9: So yeah, I think all the casual fans that are

576
00:28:50,667 --> 00:28:53,507
Speaker 9: starting to we'll start to look at tickets and know

577
00:28:53,867 --> 00:28:56,387
Speaker 9: where teams are going to be, and yeah, I think

578
00:28:56,387 --> 00:28:58,827
Speaker 9: the buzz is only going to, yeah, continue to get

579
00:28:58,867 --> 00:29:01,147
Speaker 9: higher and higher as we get closer.

580
00:29:01,387 --> 00:29:03,627
Speaker 2: And confirmation this week that the audites will be back

581
00:29:03,627 --> 00:29:06,587
Speaker 2: home in March as you put your final preparation touches on.

582
00:29:06,947 --> 00:29:09,427
Speaker 2: We wait to see who those games are against. But

583
00:29:09,547 --> 00:29:11,627
Speaker 2: you know, how nice will it be for you and

584
00:29:11,307 --> 00:29:13,547
Speaker 2: the team to have a couple of games on home

585
00:29:13,587 --> 00:29:15,547
Speaker 2: soil or I don't know, a fear well, I.

586
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Speaker 3: Wish you well kind of a week here in New Zealand.

587
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Speaker 10: I mean, yeah, that's massive.

588
00:29:20,187 --> 00:29:24,827
Speaker 9: I'm yeah, superstoked, that pregnant when the New Zealand footbaboard

589
00:29:24,827 --> 00:29:27,267
Speaker 9: managed to get that across the line. Yeah, I kind

590
00:29:27,267 --> 00:29:31,627
Speaker 9: of thought that that game it mounts smart against Australia,

591
00:29:31,787 --> 00:29:33,747
Speaker 9: sitting on the bench for ninety minutes was going to

592
00:29:33,747 --> 00:29:36,747
Speaker 9: be the last time I play an in z So

593
00:29:37,027 --> 00:29:39,147
Speaker 9: the fact that yeah, we get another one, another hitout

594
00:29:39,147 --> 00:29:41,867
Speaker 9: and in front of our fans who've yes, been huge

595
00:29:42,027 --> 00:29:44,427
Speaker 9: and supporting us. It's going to be really cool.

596
00:29:44,507 --> 00:29:46,227
Speaker 2: Yeah, looking forward to seeing your home. You were saying

597
00:29:46,267 --> 00:29:48,467
Speaker 2: about the hot temperatures before, But are you shoveling snow

598
00:29:48,667 --> 00:29:50,147
Speaker 2: at the moment? Why don't you get off this call

599
00:29:50,187 --> 00:29:50,427
Speaker 2: from me?

600
00:29:51,867 --> 00:29:55,267
Speaker 9: Yeah, I've had to do it about three or four

601
00:29:55,267 --> 00:29:58,187
Speaker 9: times the last couple of days. It's got down to

602
00:29:58,267 --> 00:30:00,587
Speaker 9: a nice minus twenty degrees yesterday.

603
00:30:00,907 --> 00:30:01,147
Speaker 11: Wow.

604
00:30:01,987 --> 00:30:04,307
Speaker 9: Yeah, hopefully hopefully I've been in said in a few

605
00:30:04,347 --> 00:30:07,187
Speaker 9: days to soak up some sun. Should Yeah, it should

606
00:30:07,227 --> 00:30:09,347
Speaker 9: be a little bit nicer than didan where I'm at

607
00:30:09,467 --> 00:30:09,787
Speaker 9: right now.

608
00:30:09,827 --> 00:30:12,827
Speaker 2: Brilliant stuff, Boxy, Thanks for taking taking the call this afternoon.

609
00:30:12,867 --> 00:30:13,227
Speaker 3: Exciting.

610
00:30:13,227 --> 00:30:15,627
Speaker 2: We know who you're playing next year now, look forward

611
00:30:15,627 --> 00:30:17,027
Speaker 2: to catching up when you're down here with the All

612
00:30:17,027 --> 00:30:18,467
Speaker 2: Whites in March.

613
00:30:18,507 --> 00:30:19,507
Speaker 9: Just funny, always a pleasure.

614
00:30:19,587 --> 00:30:21,147
Speaker 3: Now, it was a pleasure talking to you too, Michael.

615
00:30:21,147 --> 00:30:23,427
Speaker 2: Michael boxall there, who is said to be a huge

616
00:30:23,427 --> 00:30:27,267
Speaker 2: part of the All Whites squad for the World Cup

617
00:30:27,347 --> 00:30:29,827
Speaker 2: next year based in the United States, knows all about

618
00:30:29,867 --> 00:30:32,827
Speaker 2: the conditions that sort of thing, but also just an

619
00:30:32,867 --> 00:30:38,427
Speaker 2: absolute lynch pin of this team. He's he debuted for

620
00:30:38,427 --> 00:30:40,867
Speaker 2: the All Whites Michael Boxlan twenty twelve, so a couple

621
00:30:40,907 --> 00:30:42,707
Speaker 2: of years after they last went to a World Cup,

622
00:30:42,707 --> 00:30:47,107
Speaker 2: and has been through unsuccessful qualifications for twenty fourteen, for

623
00:30:47,187 --> 00:30:49,467
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen and for twenty twenty two. He has been

624
00:30:49,507 --> 00:30:53,707
Speaker 2: an absolutely brilliant servant to football in this country and

625
00:30:53,747 --> 00:30:56,347
Speaker 2: it's just a fitting way I think for him to

626
00:30:56,387 --> 00:30:59,467
Speaker 2: probably bring the curtain down on his international career. He'll

627
00:30:59,507 --> 00:31:01,707
Speaker 2: be thirty seven thirty eight even by the time the

628
00:31:01,747 --> 00:31:07,867
Speaker 2: tournament rolls around, but is hugely, hugely experienced and keeps

629
00:31:07,907 --> 00:31:11,627
Speaker 2: himself so fit, still running around like a like a youngster.

630
00:31:12,147 --> 00:31:14,787
Speaker 2: Michael box were great to have him. Heaps of feedback

631
00:31:14,827 --> 00:31:15,347
Speaker 2: on text.

632
00:31:15,827 --> 00:31:16,387
Speaker 3: I would like to.

633
00:31:16,387 --> 00:31:18,987
Speaker 2: Actually chat to somebody about this. If you've got any

634
00:31:19,067 --> 00:31:20,707
Speaker 2: views at all, there is a line there for you

635
00:31:20,787 --> 00:31:24,187
Speaker 2: to jump on. We'll pivot across the cricket after one o'clock.

636
00:31:24,227 --> 00:31:26,867
Speaker 2: But if you do have any thoughts on this, maybe

637
00:31:27,387 --> 00:31:32,267
Speaker 2: maybe a cursory perhaps some warning about these sides. As

638
00:31:32,307 --> 00:31:34,107
Speaker 2: I say, you look at them and you think, okay, well,

639
00:31:34,267 --> 00:31:36,747
Speaker 2: they're not superpowers. It's not as though we have to

640
00:31:36,747 --> 00:31:39,947
Speaker 2: play Brazil, Argentina and Spain, which was never going to

641
00:31:39,947 --> 00:31:40,307
Speaker 2: be the case.

642
00:31:40,307 --> 00:31:40,827
Speaker 3: Anyway, But.

643
00:31:42,987 --> 00:31:45,387
Speaker 2: Are we in a situation now where we can start

644
00:31:45,387 --> 00:31:49,027
Speaker 2: thinking about history being made at this tournament next year?

645
00:31:50,507 --> 00:31:52,867
Speaker 2: Jason says this text from me. The two key All

646
00:31:52,867 --> 00:31:57,187
Speaker 2: Whites for me, Libby Cacaci and Francis Dvrees, especially in

647
00:31:57,267 --> 00:32:00,827
Speaker 2: beating Egypt. Those who can nullify Mohammed Salah is of

648
00:32:00,867 --> 00:32:03,507
Speaker 2: course Mosallah, the Liverpool star plays for Egypt. If they

649
00:32:03,507 --> 00:32:07,907
Speaker 2: can nullify Salar but also exploit his inability to track

650
00:32:07,987 --> 00:32:10,547
Speaker 2: back and defend that left hand side.

651
00:32:10,347 --> 00:32:10,987
Speaker 3: Then we could be in.

652
00:32:11,067 --> 00:32:13,907
Speaker 2: It's not the scoring of goals so much as the

653
00:32:13,947 --> 00:32:17,987
Speaker 2: ability to stop others from scoring against them.

654
00:32:18,387 --> 00:32:18,627
Speaker 10: Yeah.

655
00:32:18,667 --> 00:32:21,227
Speaker 2: Look, I know that for a fact that the All

656
00:32:21,227 --> 00:32:25,227
Speaker 2: Whites technical staff, the football department if you like, will

657
00:32:26,067 --> 00:32:30,587
Speaker 2: be already starting to gather information data on these three sides,

658
00:32:30,627 --> 00:32:34,387
Speaker 2: in particular on Iran and Egypt. Those are the two

659
00:32:34,387 --> 00:32:37,627
Speaker 2: games that they'll absolutely be targeting when the World Cup

660
00:32:37,707 --> 00:32:40,547
Speaker 2: rolls around next year. Eighteen away from one, we're back

661
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Speaker 2: with more after this.

662
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Speaker 1: The Big Issues on and After Field Call eight hundred

663
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664
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Speaker 1: Gunnerhomes New Zealand's most trusted home builder News talks, there'd be.

666
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Speaker 2: A caught it to one back to the football on

667
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Speaker 2: a sec. But as they often saying, cricket one brings too.

668
00:32:58,307 --> 00:33:00,507
Speaker 2: Is that what they say? One brings two? You get

669
00:33:00,547 --> 00:33:02,187
Speaker 2: a wicket and then you get another one. That's what's

670
00:33:02,227 --> 00:33:05,987
Speaker 2: happened in christ Church. After securing a Shay Hope for

671
00:33:05,987 --> 00:33:09,707
Speaker 2: one hundhundred and forty, Tevin im Lark has been caught

672
00:33:09,747 --> 00:33:12,867
Speaker 2: in front by Zach Foxs LBW for four. So the

673
00:33:12,907 --> 00:33:15,427
Speaker 2: Western these two hundred and eighty five for six now

674
00:33:15,867 --> 00:33:18,227
Speaker 2: just the four wickets needed for New Zealand to claim

675
00:33:18,307 --> 00:33:21,507
Speaker 2: victory in christ Church. So yeah, good to get a

676
00:33:21,547 --> 00:33:23,147
Speaker 2: couple of wickets while we're on the air. Not that

677
00:33:23,187 --> 00:33:25,587
Speaker 2: we're claiming responsibility, of course, nothing to do with us.

678
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Speaker 12: Hello Andrew, Hey, Piny, how's it going?

679
00:33:28,747 --> 00:33:29,907
Speaker 3: Very good mate, very good?

680
00:33:30,627 --> 00:33:30,867
Speaker 12: Good?

681
00:33:30,947 --> 00:33:31,147
Speaker 7: Hey.

682
00:33:31,347 --> 00:33:33,467
Speaker 12: I mean I go up and watch the draw this

683
00:33:33,507 --> 00:33:36,267
Speaker 12: morning for the Football Cup. I think this is as

684
00:33:36,307 --> 00:33:40,027
Speaker 12: good a group that we could be in. I mean

685
00:33:40,707 --> 00:33:43,187
Speaker 12: the outside anning one of the hosts and from Pot one,

686
00:33:43,307 --> 00:33:44,827
Speaker 12: but I think, you know, this is as good as

687
00:33:44,867 --> 00:33:46,547
Speaker 12: we're going to get. And I mean I think I

688
00:33:46,587 --> 00:33:47,867
Speaker 12: was saying to somebody during the week if we go

689
00:33:47,907 --> 00:33:49,467
Speaker 12: to the World Cup and get a win, they'd be

690
00:33:49,987 --> 00:33:51,387
Speaker 12: be great. Now I'm thinking if we go to the

691
00:33:51,427 --> 00:33:53,587
Speaker 12: World Cup and get out of the group, that'll be

692
00:33:53,627 --> 00:33:54,387
Speaker 12: bloody fantastic.

693
00:33:54,547 --> 00:33:54,787
Speaker 5: Yeah.

694
00:33:54,867 --> 00:33:58,907
Speaker 2: Look, it's it feels more doable, doesn't it, Andrew. You know,

695
00:33:58,987 --> 00:34:00,707
Speaker 2: just just before we we talk a bit more about

696
00:34:00,707 --> 00:34:03,587
Speaker 2: the games. What about the what about the show itself?

697
00:34:03,587 --> 00:34:05,147
Speaker 2: I don think they've got the first ball out until

698
00:34:05,147 --> 00:34:06,627
Speaker 2: the seven got.

699
00:34:06,547 --> 00:34:08,547
Speaker 3: Up at six to watch ninety minutes of like a

700
00:34:08,587 --> 00:34:10,227
Speaker 3: half time show at the Super Bowl or something.

701
00:34:11,067 --> 00:34:12,627
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, I'm not sure if the

702
00:34:13,307 --> 00:34:15,507
Speaker 12: song is going to be a banger like the twentand

703
00:34:15,747 --> 00:34:19,547
Speaker 12: Shakira one. No, And I'm much of the audience to

704
00:34:19,547 --> 00:34:21,987
Speaker 12: do much Aboutlauren Hill either. So yeah, it was quite

705
00:34:22,067 --> 00:34:22,627
Speaker 12: quite interesting.

706
00:34:22,987 --> 00:34:24,027
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was all right.

707
00:34:24,027 --> 00:34:27,627
Speaker 2: So you look at it Belgium, Egypt, Iran, as you say, Andrew,

708
00:34:27,667 --> 00:34:31,187
Speaker 2: you know, you look at it, and really there's no group

709
00:34:31,187 --> 00:34:33,827
Speaker 2: of death as there were as there usually was with

710
00:34:33,947 --> 00:34:36,267
Speaker 2: thirty two teams, forty eight teams. The you know, the

711
00:34:36,347 --> 00:34:39,267
Speaker 2: talent gets spread out and so you know, the teams

712
00:34:39,267 --> 00:34:42,627
Speaker 2: and pots three and four, you know, tend to make

713
00:34:42,667 --> 00:34:44,547
Speaker 2: it a sort of a more equalized draw.

714
00:34:44,587 --> 00:34:45,747
Speaker 3: But I don't know.

715
00:34:45,787 --> 00:34:47,947
Speaker 2: It just feels as though the results are there for

716
00:34:48,027 --> 00:34:50,947
Speaker 2: New Zealand. You know, Iran Egypt, they're both in the

717
00:34:50,987 --> 00:34:53,147
Speaker 2: sort of twenties and thirties in the world on a

718
00:34:53,147 --> 00:34:53,747
Speaker 2: given day.

719
00:34:53,947 --> 00:34:55,307
Speaker 3: Would have to be a chance, wouldn't we.

720
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Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, And I think I mean, like someone like Iran,

721
00:34:58,267 --> 00:34:59,867
Speaker 12: I mean, I don't think they're going to be supported

722
00:34:59,907 --> 00:35:03,387
Speaker 12: by the US match probably, I mean, you know, so

723
00:35:03,507 --> 00:35:04,907
Speaker 12: like that might be a bit of a home game

724
00:35:04,947 --> 00:35:06,707
Speaker 12: for US. And then I think the other as well,

725
00:35:06,707 --> 00:35:09,507
Speaker 12: that which now favor. Is this your way for playoff?

726
00:35:09,547 --> 00:35:12,027
Speaker 12: I mean the fact that those six teams are all

727
00:35:12,027 --> 00:35:14,067
Speaker 12: in POP four that's helped us as well a lot.

728
00:35:14,307 --> 00:35:16,067
Speaker 12: I had whod rooms they were going to change it up,

729
00:35:16,067 --> 00:35:17,187
Speaker 12: but I'm glad they didn't.

730
00:35:17,507 --> 00:35:20,907
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, it's it's look, it's now that we

731
00:35:21,027 --> 00:35:23,307
Speaker 2: know who we're playing. I think that's a that's obviously

732
00:35:23,347 --> 00:35:26,147
Speaker 2: a major milestone, right we know who we've got we

733
00:35:26,227 --> 00:35:28,747
Speaker 2: can and like I say, the eastern sorry western side

734
00:35:28,787 --> 00:35:31,267
Speaker 2: of the United States and Canada is is probably you know,

735
00:35:31,387 --> 00:35:34,227
Speaker 2: quite friendly for a number of reasons. Are you have

736
00:35:34,267 --> 00:35:35,147
Speaker 2: you got money saved?

737
00:35:35,147 --> 00:35:35,307
Speaker 7: Mate?

738
00:35:35,347 --> 00:35:36,387
Speaker 3: You're hopping on a plane.

739
00:35:37,467 --> 00:35:38,027
Speaker 7: I wish.

740
00:35:38,027 --> 00:35:39,947
Speaker 12: I wish I could, and I'm sure my sister in

741
00:35:39,987 --> 00:35:42,347
Speaker 12: Rod some would wish we could as well, because he's mad,

742
00:35:42,467 --> 00:35:45,667
Speaker 12: mad king, But probably not at the moment. But you know,

743
00:35:46,227 --> 00:35:47,627
Speaker 12: there's always a lot of tonight, Isn't there there?

744
00:35:47,827 --> 00:35:48,187
Speaker 3: Andrew?

745
00:35:48,187 --> 00:35:48,587
Speaker 7: There is?

746
00:35:48,627 --> 00:35:49,307
Speaker 3: That's the spirit.

747
00:35:49,547 --> 00:35:51,907
Speaker 2: There's always a way. God on you hate. Thanks for

748
00:35:52,027 --> 00:35:54,547
Speaker 2: calling in and having a chat. We'll obviously talk more

749
00:35:54,587 --> 00:35:57,427
Speaker 2: as the tournament draws closer. Derek, I was hoping you'd

750
00:35:57,427 --> 00:36:00,027
Speaker 2: call because you're a regular caller on football matters.

751
00:36:00,027 --> 00:36:01,587
Speaker 3: So what's your assessment of group G.

752
00:36:03,467 --> 00:36:06,267
Speaker 13: Look, I think that that guy that teachts you about

753
00:36:06,547 --> 00:36:08,907
Speaker 13: I don't know what this narrative is. All of a sudden,

754
00:36:09,267 --> 00:36:11,867
Speaker 13: the season in England starts and suddenly most sale doesn't

755
00:36:11,907 --> 00:36:13,947
Speaker 13: know how to defend. That's the schepest thing I've ever heard.

756
00:36:14,067 --> 00:36:15,907
Speaker 13: Who's the defender that's been behind him in the last

757
00:36:15,947 --> 00:36:18,827
Speaker 13: seven or eight years, Trent Alexander Arnold. He'll be a

758
00:36:18,867 --> 00:36:21,947
Speaker 13: giant of the defensive structure. Yeah, don't worry about Mo.

759
00:36:22,107 --> 00:36:24,147
Speaker 13: He won't play in that same role for Egypt. He'll

760
00:36:24,147 --> 00:36:26,587
Speaker 13: play more of a number ten role. They'll play center forward,

761
00:36:26,627 --> 00:36:30,667
Speaker 13: they'll play another winger and Mowell play a drifting number

762
00:36:30,707 --> 00:36:33,867
Speaker 13: ten role where the team will be about given Moa

763
00:36:34,147 --> 00:36:35,907
Speaker 13: the ball in the last third of the field so

764
00:36:35,947 --> 00:36:38,667
Speaker 13: he can run at defenders and create chances. Yeah yeah,

765
00:36:38,667 --> 00:36:40,107
Speaker 13: how he does that cross for the outside of his

766
00:36:40,187 --> 00:36:42,747
Speaker 13: left foight and defense things. That's what he'll we do

767
00:36:42,827 --> 00:36:45,587
Speaker 13: and he'll he'll have a little defensive responsibility as possible.

768
00:36:45,707 --> 00:36:47,947
Speaker 13: Doesn't mean he can't get back to defend. He's the

769
00:36:47,947 --> 00:36:50,547
Speaker 13: fittest player at the Liverpool club. He has been for

770
00:36:50,587 --> 00:36:53,067
Speaker 13: the last seven or eight years. I read reports on it.

771
00:36:53,147 --> 00:36:55,387
Speaker 13: He's the fittest player they've had there. But I think

772
00:36:55,387 --> 00:36:58,427
Speaker 13: New Zealand to win. Look, I would have liked us

773
00:36:58,467 --> 00:37:01,987
Speaker 13: to have drawn Argentina because you know we would have

774
00:37:02,027 --> 00:37:04,467
Speaker 13: been playing against the world champions and the greatest player

775
00:37:04,507 --> 00:37:07,667
Speaker 13: of all time. What experience that would have. But look

776
00:37:07,707 --> 00:37:10,267
Speaker 13: there's games there they can win. I mean, I run,

777
00:37:10,587 --> 00:37:13,107
Speaker 13: We've got to have our best team out for a run.

778
00:37:13,587 --> 00:37:15,747
Speaker 13: He had a text before about liberty to cars and

779
00:37:15,787 --> 00:37:19,827
Speaker 13: Chris Wood. Look for me, it's all about think as

780
00:37:19,907 --> 00:37:23,307
Speaker 13: return to form this year, his confidence levels. I mean

781
00:37:23,347 --> 00:37:25,787
Speaker 13: against Australia, we set up two fantastic chances that we

782
00:37:25,827 --> 00:37:29,227
Speaker 13: didn't take. Advantage of going forward, shooting, taking free checks.

783
00:37:29,347 --> 00:37:31,147
Speaker 13: This is the guy for me or be the key

784
00:37:31,347 --> 00:37:34,547
Speaker 13: because he's a number ten. He creates chances. And if

785
00:37:34,547 --> 00:37:36,147
Speaker 13: I look at the team in eighty two and I

786
00:37:36,147 --> 00:37:39,187
Speaker 13: look at the teams in twenty ten, we've always lacked

787
00:37:39,307 --> 00:37:42,227
Speaker 13: that creative dynament field. Someone can pick the ball up,

788
00:37:42,467 --> 00:37:44,227
Speaker 13: we can give him the ball and he can create

789
00:37:44,347 --> 00:37:46,347
Speaker 13: chances for everyone around him. He can take free checks,

790
00:37:46,387 --> 00:37:48,627
Speaker 13: he can score goals, he can beat a man with

791
00:37:48,707 --> 00:37:51,347
Speaker 13: a shuffle. I mean, this guy for me is going

792
00:37:51,427 --> 00:37:53,867
Speaker 13: to be the key, and he's just coming back in

793
00:37:53,947 --> 00:37:55,667
Speaker 13: the fitness and form at the right time for me.

794
00:37:55,987 --> 00:37:59,427
Speaker 13: So I think that when it comes to a game

795
00:37:59,467 --> 00:38:02,307
Speaker 13: that we're going to targets as a country over there,

796
00:38:02,427 --> 00:38:04,027
Speaker 13: I think we've got a target run. I think we

797
00:38:04,107 --> 00:38:06,627
Speaker 13: can beat them. I think that they'll be technically good,

798
00:38:07,347 --> 00:38:09,347
Speaker 13: but I think defensively they'll be as strong as us,

799
00:38:09,467 --> 00:38:11,107
Speaker 13: and I think that's what we can get hold of them.

800
00:38:11,267 --> 00:38:14,427
Speaker 13: I mean, obviously, Chris Wood is a striker who finishes

801
00:38:14,587 --> 00:38:17,347
Speaker 13: chances off. I mean the last season obviously got twenty goals,

802
00:38:17,427 --> 00:38:19,427
Speaker 13: but he had two fantastic wingers on either side, and

803
00:38:19,507 --> 00:38:21,347
Speaker 13: he had a great number ten, and I think that's

804
00:38:21,387 --> 00:38:22,947
Speaker 13: where we have to set up Chris Wood to finish

805
00:38:22,987 --> 00:38:25,547
Speaker 13: off our chances. Will we be defensively structured, you know,

806
00:38:25,627 --> 00:38:29,347
Speaker 13: structurally sound. Have a look at twenty ten. Ricky Herbert

807
00:38:29,427 --> 00:38:31,947
Speaker 13: put together a team there and a team plan that

808
00:38:32,067 --> 00:38:35,747
Speaker 13: everybody brought into the players. We had three great center

809
00:38:35,787 --> 00:38:38,467
Speaker 13: backs and we had a goalkeyper who was tremendous at

810
00:38:38,587 --> 00:38:41,827
Speaker 13: saving shots from distance and Mark Passon, and I think

811
00:38:41,907 --> 00:38:44,307
Speaker 13: what we did was we restricted any shots in any

812
00:38:44,387 --> 00:38:46,347
Speaker 13: danger in those sorts of areas. I think what we've

813
00:38:46,387 --> 00:38:48,587
Speaker 13: got to do is be have a water type back

814
00:38:48,667 --> 00:38:50,707
Speaker 13: for and I'm assuming we're going to have a back

815
00:38:50,747 --> 00:38:52,827
Speaker 13: four because they've got two good fullbacks, and then we'll

816
00:38:52,867 --> 00:38:54,707
Speaker 13: go on from there. But once again, I go back

817
00:38:54,707 --> 00:38:57,387
Speaker 13: to what I started. I think we could target run.

818
00:38:57,627 --> 00:38:59,467
Speaker 13: I've got a great feeling about Iran. I think we

819
00:38:59,507 --> 00:39:01,827
Speaker 13: could beat them. And also I had a look at

820
00:39:02,787 --> 00:39:05,387
Speaker 13: Separate seeing the way he's been playing in some really

821
00:39:05,427 --> 00:39:08,947
Speaker 13: good fixtures recently against good teams like Ecuador. He's really

822
00:39:09,027 --> 00:39:11,067
Speaker 13: looked the business and I think he can do the

823
00:39:11,147 --> 00:39:14,347
Speaker 13: job for us. But you know, I look around these groups.

824
00:39:14,667 --> 00:39:17,027
Speaker 13: I don't like the fact that the tournaments in a

825
00:39:17,107 --> 00:39:19,587
Speaker 13: non footballing country, you know, where football is not the

826
00:39:19,667 --> 00:39:22,107
Speaker 13: national game in America. I don't like that, and you're right,

827
00:39:22,147 --> 00:39:24,547
Speaker 13: I agree with you. It's too inflated for me. I'd

828
00:39:24,627 --> 00:39:26,587
Speaker 13: like to get it. It's a little bit too wide.

829
00:39:26,627 --> 00:39:28,787
Speaker 13: But having said all that, because there's a chance to

830
00:39:28,867 --> 00:39:30,627
Speaker 13: finally win our first game, and I think it's going

831
00:39:30,707 --> 00:39:32,387
Speaker 13: to be I think the game and goes so Iran

832
00:39:32,707 --> 00:39:35,307
Speaker 13: is going to be tremendous. The game against the play

833
00:39:35,347 --> 00:39:37,387
Speaker 13: against most Sella is going to be a joy for

834
00:39:37,427 --> 00:39:41,827
Speaker 13: a lot of players. Belgium, Ah, they've got some fantastic players,

835
00:39:42,107 --> 00:39:44,467
Speaker 13: but I just feel their key players like Kevin Debroader

836
00:39:45,027 --> 00:39:47,507
Speaker 13: just the shape past their best. Still great players. They'll

837
00:39:47,547 --> 00:39:49,587
Speaker 13: still shine for a little while, but maybe not over

838
00:39:49,627 --> 00:39:52,547
Speaker 13: the full ninety minutes. Maybe for you know, sixteen minutes,

839
00:39:52,547 --> 00:39:54,427
Speaker 13: and they'll be taken off. They've obviously got more depth

840
00:39:54,467 --> 00:39:57,027
Speaker 13: than we have. But look, there's a lot of positive

841
00:39:57,067 --> 00:39:59,307
Speaker 13: things about this group. Piney and I'm feeling in a

842
00:39:59,347 --> 00:40:01,307
Speaker 13: good movie because the mom awaited about part stadium. I'm

843
00:40:01,307 --> 00:40:03,147
Speaker 13: getting picked up at three o'clock and I'm going to

844
00:40:03,187 --> 00:40:05,267
Speaker 13: be going to going to the dub matchwok up my

845
00:40:05,307 --> 00:40:08,427
Speaker 13: season ticket ready and look as exciding times of football.

846
00:40:08,507 --> 00:40:11,507
Speaker 3: Ah, good stuff, A great summary from yours, always great

847
00:40:11,667 --> 00:40:12,427
Speaker 3: summary mate.

848
00:40:12,467 --> 00:40:12,667
Speaker 7: Thanks.

849
00:40:12,747 --> 00:40:14,867
Speaker 2: Indeed, look, by the time we played Belgium we might

850
00:40:14,907 --> 00:40:19,427
Speaker 2: already be confirmed. You know, Belgium in the last game.

851
00:40:19,507 --> 00:40:21,827
Speaker 2: You'd hate to arrive at that game and thinking okay,

852
00:40:21,867 --> 00:40:24,187
Speaker 2: we need to result here to go through. Look, I'm

853
00:40:24,267 --> 00:40:27,187
Speaker 2: being very rose tintity. Look I know for a fact

854
00:40:27,587 --> 00:40:30,547
Speaker 2: that if there are radio shows talking football at the

855
00:40:30,587 --> 00:40:34,667
Speaker 2: moment in Egypt and Iran, which they probably are, they'll

856
00:40:34,707 --> 00:40:37,267
Speaker 2: be looking at at New Zealand as a laydown three points.

857
00:40:37,827 --> 00:40:40,427
Speaker 2: They won't even be thinking about it. The surprise element

858
00:40:40,547 --> 00:40:42,147
Speaker 2: you see seven to one news stalks.

859
00:40:41,947 --> 00:40:46,107
Speaker 1: EDB analyzing every view from every angle in the Sporting

860
00:40:46,187 --> 00:40:48,787
Speaker 1: World Weekend Sport with Jason Vye.

861
00:40:48,867 --> 00:40:49,347
Speaker 8: They call.

862
00:40:50,987 --> 00:40:52,587
Speaker 3: Us Talks EDB four to one.

863
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Speaker 2: We're going to circle back to football after two with

864
00:40:54,907 --> 00:40:57,547
Speaker 2: the derby this afternoon derby two of the season, derby

865
00:40:57,667 --> 00:41:00,587
Speaker 2: five point zho. They're calling it the fifth a League

866
00:41:00,587 --> 00:41:03,387
Speaker 2: men's derby between Auckland f C and the Wellington Phoenix.

867
00:41:03,507 --> 00:41:06,627
Speaker 2: All four previous derby's won by Auckland f C. Of course,

868
00:41:06,747 --> 00:41:09,707
Speaker 2: can the Phoenix turn the tide this afternoon. Their coach

869
00:41:10,107 --> 00:41:12,707
Speaker 2: Jian Callow, aaliana going to pop in the studio. Steve Coricker,

870
00:41:12,947 --> 00:41:15,227
Speaker 2: head coach of Auckland FC, is also on the show

871
00:41:15,387 --> 00:41:19,267
Speaker 2: after one though Richard Petree a group of players. He's

872
00:41:19,347 --> 00:41:22,147
Speaker 2: one of a group of players expressing concern about n

873
00:41:22,307 --> 00:41:23,027
Speaker 2: Z twenty.

874
00:41:24,827 --> 00:41:27,667
Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on

875
00:41:28,107 --> 00:41:29,267
Speaker 1: and after fields.

876
00:41:29,787 --> 00:41:30,387
Speaker 7: It's all on.

877
00:41:30,467 --> 00:41:33,867
Speaker 1: WI jens Ford with Jason Tide on your home of.

878
00:41:33,947 --> 00:41:37,467
Speaker 3: Sport News Talk MB well No.

879
00:41:37,587 --> 00:41:37,827
Speaker 7: Seven.

880
00:41:37,867 --> 00:41:39,587
Speaker 2: Welcome back into the show. This is weekend Sport on

881
00:41:39,667 --> 00:41:41,147
Speaker 2: News TALKSB. I'm Jason Pine.

882
00:41:41,987 --> 00:41:42,827
Speaker 7: Good to have you with us.

883
00:41:42,827 --> 00:41:44,907
Speaker 2: We're chatting sport till three. We'll look at the Derby

884
00:41:44,987 --> 00:41:48,587
Speaker 2: after two. Auckland f C Wellington Phoenix from five o'clock

885
00:41:48,627 --> 00:41:51,267
Speaker 2: this afternoon, both coaches with us. Just updating a bit

886
00:41:51,307 --> 00:41:53,147
Speaker 2: of live sport for you before we move on at

887
00:41:53,187 --> 00:41:54,867
Speaker 2: the Australian opens the golf.

888
00:41:54,987 --> 00:41:56,827
Speaker 3: Obviously five keyws have made the cut.

889
00:41:57,747 --> 00:41:59,947
Speaker 2: Ryan Fox and Daniel Hilly are both six under the card,

890
00:42:00,067 --> 00:42:01,987
Speaker 2: just three shots off the lead at off. Soon Dan

891
00:42:02,067 --> 00:42:05,147
Speaker 2: Hilly is under weighing around ten minutes or so. Ten

892
00:42:05,187 --> 00:42:08,227
Speaker 2: minutes after that, Ryan Fox will go. They're tied for seventh.

893
00:42:08,827 --> 00:42:11,707
Speaker 2: Nick vok Is even parts round through nine holes, he's

894
00:42:11,707 --> 00:42:14,227
Speaker 2: won under for the tournament. Tyler Hodge won over through

895
00:42:14,347 --> 00:42:17,027
Speaker 2: six is also one under for the tournament. Kerry mount

896
00:42:17,147 --> 00:42:21,107
Speaker 2: Castle won over through thirteen holes one over for the tournament.

897
00:42:21,147 --> 00:42:23,427
Speaker 2: Those are the kiwis involved and as you heard in

898
00:42:23,547 --> 00:42:25,707
Speaker 2: our sports news, they've gone to lunch at Hagleyoval in

899
00:42:25,787 --> 00:42:28,427
Speaker 2: christ Church. With the West Indies two hundred and ninety

900
00:42:28,507 --> 00:42:30,947
Speaker 2: five for six in their second innings, they need a

901
00:42:30,987 --> 00:42:33,827
Speaker 2: further two hundred and thirty six runs, which seems unlikely

902
00:42:33,907 --> 00:42:35,987
Speaker 2: to win the Test match. New Zealand need a further

903
00:42:36,107 --> 00:42:39,547
Speaker 2: four wickets to take a one zero lead in the

904
00:42:39,667 --> 00:42:44,787
Speaker 2: three match Series one eight. The stoush has intensified between

905
00:42:44,827 --> 00:42:48,147
Speaker 2: those pushing for a revamped n Z twenty short format

906
00:42:48,267 --> 00:42:51,747
Speaker 2: cricket competition and a consortium in support of New Zealand cricket.

907
00:42:52,107 --> 00:42:55,227
Speaker 2: Further weighing up their options, an open letter signed by

908
00:42:55,347 --> 00:42:59,907
Speaker 2: fifteen former national representatives has questioned several aspects of the

909
00:43:00,027 --> 00:43:03,907
Speaker 2: NZ twenty proposal. NZ twenty backers have responded to that

910
00:43:04,067 --> 00:43:07,627
Speaker 2: virus statement, saying they have engaged transparent manner with New

911
00:43:07,707 --> 00:43:10,387
Speaker 2: Zealand Cricket, which has appointed two board members to sit

912
00:43:10,427 --> 00:43:13,987
Speaker 2: on their committee and that cooperation will be sought throughout

913
00:43:14,067 --> 00:43:16,867
Speaker 2: the process. One of the signatories to the open letter,

914
00:43:16,907 --> 00:43:20,867
Speaker 2: which was published on Thursday is former international Richard Petrie,

915
00:43:20,867 --> 00:43:24,067
Speaker 2: who joins US now. Richard, why are you opposed to

916
00:43:24,547 --> 00:43:25,627
Speaker 2: n Z twenty.

917
00:43:27,387 --> 00:43:31,547
Speaker 7: Yeah? Hi, Jason. Yeah, there's a number of people who

918
00:43:31,587 --> 00:43:34,867
Speaker 7: are opposed to it. We're not opposed to T twenty

919
00:43:35,147 --> 00:43:40,587
Speaker 7: competition per se. What we're opposed to is a private

920
00:43:40,747 --> 00:43:47,667
Speaker 7: organization coming in taking over that January window for profit

921
00:43:47,747 --> 00:43:52,387
Speaker 7: making reasons basically, and really putting New Zealand Cricket in turmoil.

922
00:43:52,787 --> 00:43:55,867
Speaker 7: I don't know if people realize how much turmoil the

923
00:43:56,027 --> 00:44:00,267
Speaker 7: game is in. At national level. The board is split.

924
00:44:01,747 --> 00:44:04,667
Speaker 7: I think there was released a letter from Hadley and

925
00:44:04,787 --> 00:44:09,507
Speaker 7: Stedden and Bach and Murdoch to the board asking them

926
00:44:09,587 --> 00:44:13,667
Speaker 7: to you know, they're severely worried about what's going on

927
00:44:13,987 --> 00:44:18,507
Speaker 7: at that level. There are two sides. It's not as

928
00:44:18,747 --> 00:44:22,827
Speaker 7: friendly as as maybe the MS twenty people are making out.

929
00:44:23,227 --> 00:44:26,707
Speaker 7: It's and really it's a battle for control of the game.

930
00:44:26,747 --> 00:44:28,427
Speaker 7: I think that's the best way to sum it up,

931
00:44:28,547 --> 00:44:31,387
Speaker 7: and I can sort of explain why if if.

932
00:44:31,267 --> 00:44:32,827
Speaker 3: You want to know, I do want to know.

933
00:44:32,947 --> 00:44:35,467
Speaker 2: But before we get into that, do you think change

934
00:44:35,947 --> 00:44:38,347
Speaker 2: to our domestic T twenty game is needed?

935
00:44:41,347 --> 00:44:44,187
Speaker 7: Possibly? And there's lots of options on the table, including

936
00:44:44,227 --> 00:44:46,747
Speaker 7: the Big Bash, which I believe is a very viable

937
00:44:46,787 --> 00:44:51,147
Speaker 7: option and a very profitable option, but one where New

938
00:44:51,227 --> 00:44:55,907
Speaker 7: Zealand Cricket maintains control of the whole situation. So there

939
00:44:55,947 --> 00:44:58,067
Speaker 7: are a number of options. I know Scott Weenix looking

940
00:44:58,067 --> 00:45:00,507
Speaker 7: at four. He's listed out four of them, and you

941
00:45:00,587 --> 00:45:03,667
Speaker 7: know he's very keen to look at all four because

942
00:45:03,707 --> 00:45:07,867
Speaker 7: it's really important they go down here. If they go

943
00:45:07,987 --> 00:45:11,107
Speaker 7: down the wrong path, there are some big consequences, all right.

944
00:45:11,707 --> 00:45:11,907
Speaker 8: Well.

945
00:45:12,347 --> 00:45:13,267
Speaker 3: New Zealand twenty.

946
00:45:14,747 --> 00:45:17,947
Speaker 2: The head of the establishing Committee, Don McKinnon, was on

947
00:45:18,027 --> 00:45:19,587
Speaker 2: the radio with me a couple of weeks ago and

948
00:45:19,667 --> 00:45:22,467
Speaker 2: said that yes, they are one of four options being

949
00:45:22,507 --> 00:45:25,507
Speaker 2: looked at, and it's good governance from New Zealand Cricket

950
00:45:25,587 --> 00:45:27,947
Speaker 2: to be looking at all four options and that they

951
00:45:27,987 --> 00:45:31,907
Speaker 2: will cooperate with any process and be fine with the outcome.

952
00:45:32,067 --> 00:45:36,067
Speaker 2: So the letter that was sent on Thursday seemed to

953
00:45:36,147 --> 00:45:42,027
Speaker 2: talk about things like dealing covertly and other such language.

954
00:45:43,027 --> 00:45:46,467
Speaker 2: Can you expand on why you believe they're dealing covertly

955
00:45:47,187 --> 00:45:49,907
Speaker 2: to push their league as is written here.

956
00:45:51,107 --> 00:45:55,027
Speaker 7: Yeah, sure, my understanding. Our understanding is that you know

957
00:45:55,147 --> 00:45:58,307
Speaker 7: they've Don McKinnon and other people have done a tour

958
00:45:58,347 --> 00:46:03,747
Speaker 7: around the country and told players. There are players that

959
00:46:03,827 --> 00:46:05,987
Speaker 7: we know of who have been told keep this quiet,

960
00:46:06,067 --> 00:46:09,147
Speaker 7: keep it to yourself, we need to establish things and

961
00:46:09,267 --> 00:46:11,467
Speaker 7: don't you know, sort of don't let anything out about

962
00:46:11,467 --> 00:46:14,147
Speaker 7: what we're discussing. So that's our understanding of what was happening.

963
00:46:14,227 --> 00:46:15,827
Speaker 2: Okay, can I pick up on that, Ben, because on

964
00:46:15,907 --> 00:46:18,267
Speaker 2: the statement we received yesterday from m Z twenty it

965
00:46:18,387 --> 00:46:21,547
Speaker 2: said mister McKinnon has never presented to any of the

966
00:46:21,627 --> 00:46:25,707
Speaker 2: players or major associations about the NZED twenty league, save

967
00:46:25,787 --> 00:46:28,027
Speaker 2: on one occasion when m Z twenty met with the

968
00:46:28,067 --> 00:46:32,027
Speaker 2: major associations with two New Zealand Cricket directors. Any suggestion

969
00:46:32,627 --> 00:46:35,747
Speaker 2: anyone has been sworn to secrecy is false and a

970
00:46:35,827 --> 00:46:40,147
Speaker 2: slur on the character of those involved. So they unequivocally

971
00:46:40,707 --> 00:46:41,787
Speaker 2: refute that suggestion.

972
00:46:42,947 --> 00:46:46,787
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, the technical terms there that there have been

973
00:46:46,867 --> 00:46:50,827
Speaker 7: tours round where players have been approached and spoken to.

974
00:46:51,547 --> 00:46:54,667
Speaker 7: I know of players who I mean, that's where I've

975
00:46:54,747 --> 00:46:57,107
Speaker 7: heard of players who are reporting that that's been the case.

976
00:46:57,147 --> 00:46:58,467
Speaker 7: They were told not to say anything.

977
00:47:00,627 --> 00:47:03,507
Speaker 2: So, in other words, so you're refuting this statement. You're

978
00:47:03,507 --> 00:47:08,347
Speaker 2: saying that players have been approached private lee and sport.

979
00:47:09,827 --> 00:47:12,427
Speaker 7: In groups, in groups they well, you know, they've been

980
00:47:12,427 --> 00:47:15,987
Speaker 7: approached in groups and and told to keep it to themselves.

981
00:47:16,387 --> 00:47:17,947
Speaker 7: That's that's our understanding. Yep.

982
00:47:18,747 --> 00:47:20,107
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I guess we're in a bit of

983
00:47:20,187 --> 00:47:23,547
Speaker 2: a bit of an impasse there and that that's your understanding.

984
00:47:23,747 --> 00:47:28,707
Speaker 2: They have refuted that, so let's move. Your open letter

985
00:47:28,787 --> 00:47:31,107
Speaker 2: was addressed to Stephen Fleming, Heath Mills, Don mckinn and

986
00:47:31,187 --> 00:47:35,307
Speaker 2: David Holme in the NZ twenty consortium. Why didn't you

987
00:47:35,427 --> 00:47:37,627
Speaker 2: send the letter direct to those that was addressed to?

988
00:47:42,347 --> 00:47:46,107
Speaker 7: As I said, I think we're former players. We're not

989
00:47:46,987 --> 00:47:50,187
Speaker 7: we're not New Zealand Cricket. We're not any sort of

990
00:47:50,387 --> 00:47:52,827
Speaker 7: we don't have any power or authority. We've just got

991
00:47:52,907 --> 00:47:56,227
Speaker 7: a vested interest in the game that we love. We're

992
00:47:56,307 --> 00:48:00,747
Speaker 7: more fans and so we're not directly involved with these guys,

993
00:48:01,547 --> 00:48:04,787
Speaker 7: but we are very concerned about, you know, what potentially

994
00:48:04,867 --> 00:48:07,587
Speaker 7: can happen to the in New Zealand. Like you said,

995
00:48:07,667 --> 00:48:12,067
Speaker 7: the board is fractured. Our understanding the board is fractured.

996
00:48:12,107 --> 00:48:13,947
Speaker 7: It is split. There's there's some of them wanting to

997
00:48:14,027 --> 00:48:16,467
Speaker 7: go one way, someone wanting to go the other. And

998
00:48:16,627 --> 00:48:20,707
Speaker 7: it's it's it's not a happy it's not a happy camp.

999
00:48:22,027 --> 00:48:23,747
Speaker 3: That's not Z twenty's fault, though, is it.

1000
00:48:27,667 --> 00:48:31,787
Speaker 7: It's not inc twenties fault. This is a What you've

1001
00:48:31,787 --> 00:48:34,947
Speaker 7: got to understand is it's a power play here. If

1002
00:48:34,947 --> 00:48:38,307
Speaker 7: the NZ twenty come and set up a tournament, and

1003
00:48:39,307 --> 00:48:42,547
Speaker 7: they run a tournament, that's fine. They have kind of

1004
00:48:42,667 --> 00:48:45,827
Speaker 7: drafted the major associations or not all of them, but

1005
00:48:46,067 --> 00:48:50,867
Speaker 7: most of them to want to back this thing with.

1006
00:48:51,547 --> 00:48:54,267
Speaker 7: You know, there's been money promised to them and so

1007
00:48:54,387 --> 00:48:57,187
Speaker 7: the major associations are wanting to sort of look down

1008
00:48:57,307 --> 00:49:02,587
Speaker 7: this route. The Planers Association are actively involved. The problem is,

1009
00:49:03,107 --> 00:49:04,787
Speaker 7: you know, you're gonna look at one of the consequences

1010
00:49:04,827 --> 00:49:07,707
Speaker 7: because because that's what it's all about. You know, let's

1011
00:49:07,747 --> 00:49:12,547
Speaker 7: say a game that New Zealand Cricket has no stake in,

1012
00:49:12,787 --> 00:49:15,667
Speaker 7: Like in every other country where there's a T twenty tournament,

1013
00:49:15,787 --> 00:49:21,307
Speaker 7: like South Africa, England, Australia, the governing the national governing

1014
00:49:21,427 --> 00:49:24,107
Speaker 7: body are the ones that own and run that tournament

1015
00:49:25,187 --> 00:49:30,347
Speaker 7: right in this situation, what they're proposing is a T

1016
00:49:30,547 --> 00:49:32,667
Speaker 7: twenty tournament where they're trying to raise a lot of

1017
00:49:32,707 --> 00:49:34,987
Speaker 7: money and pay a whole lot of people out, including

1018
00:49:35,107 --> 00:49:38,667
Speaker 7: major associations. And do you know New Zealand Cricket's stake

1019
00:49:38,707 --> 00:49:41,627
Speaker 7: in this in this operation zero?

1020
00:49:42,547 --> 00:49:44,827
Speaker 3: But Richard, they do have to sign but they do

1021
00:49:45,067 --> 00:49:46,027
Speaker 3: have to sign it off.

1022
00:49:46,467 --> 00:49:49,827
Speaker 2: They have the final sign off on this competition on

1023
00:49:49,987 --> 00:49:53,307
Speaker 2: the way forward here in New Zealand. Whatever they decide,

1024
00:49:53,787 --> 00:49:56,947
Speaker 2: they sign off. So why would New Zealand Cricket grant

1025
00:49:57,107 --> 00:49:59,147
Speaker 2: end Z twenty a license if it would be to

1026
00:49:59,227 --> 00:49:59,867
Speaker 2: their detriment?

1027
00:50:01,227 --> 00:50:04,747
Speaker 7: That's a very good question. Why would they? Why would

1028
00:50:05,267 --> 00:50:07,707
Speaker 7: And it's done at B level so it's only the

1029
00:50:07,747 --> 00:50:11,067
Speaker 7: board that can do it right now that you've got

1030
00:50:11,147 --> 00:50:12,707
Speaker 7: to ask you, And that's the question of ours and

1031
00:50:12,747 --> 00:50:17,747
Speaker 7: the media under why would a New Zealand national board

1032
00:50:18,347 --> 00:50:24,227
Speaker 7: give away their IP their players during January, compromising their

1033
00:50:24,387 --> 00:50:28,307
Speaker 7: national obligations to the i c C. Why would it?

1034
00:50:28,427 --> 00:50:31,867
Speaker 7: Why would a national board of directors or whatever they

1035
00:50:31,907 --> 00:50:36,347
Speaker 7: are vote for that? And you know it's a real thing,

1036
00:50:36,427 --> 00:50:39,787
Speaker 7: it could happen, and that's the question, that's the question

1037
00:50:39,867 --> 00:50:42,147
Speaker 7: you'd be asking the board, why would you do what's

1038
00:50:42,307 --> 00:50:45,827
Speaker 7: in the benefit for New Zealand cricket to to compromise

1039
00:50:45,907 --> 00:50:50,787
Speaker 7: your national, your international schedule, to put your TV rights

1040
00:50:50,827 --> 00:50:54,747
Speaker 7: which are huge at risk, and those TV rights are

1041
00:50:54,787 --> 00:50:57,987
Speaker 7: what runs the whole game in New Zealand. Right if

1042
00:50:58,307 --> 00:51:03,427
Speaker 7: if sonny And and Sky TV don't get the game

1043
00:51:03,507 --> 00:51:05,667
Speaker 7: they want, don't get the players they want, and that

1044
00:51:05,787 --> 00:51:08,187
Speaker 7: you know, and that January window, there's a very real

1045
00:51:08,387 --> 00:51:11,947
Speaker 7: risk that they would withdraw. They've paid a lot of money,

1046
00:51:12,107 --> 00:51:14,747
Speaker 7: They paid a lot of money for TV rights for

1047
00:51:14,787 --> 00:51:15,867
Speaker 7: the black Caps, but.

1048
00:51:15,907 --> 00:51:18,027
Speaker 2: There's no suggestion that players will be pulled out of

1049
00:51:18,067 --> 00:51:21,747
Speaker 2: international cricket. There's there's no suggestion of that at all.

1050
00:51:23,987 --> 00:51:26,387
Speaker 7: There is a suggestion that all players that sign up

1051
00:51:26,427 --> 00:51:29,147
Speaker 7: to this need to be available for this January window. So,

1052
00:51:29,347 --> 00:51:32,307
Speaker 7: I mean, that's that's a question that needs to be clarified, right.

1053
00:51:32,467 --> 00:51:37,827
Speaker 7: I listened to that Dan McCarty interview yesterday with Don McKinnon. Yeah,

1054
00:51:38,267 --> 00:51:40,467
Speaker 7: there's way more questions that need to be asked to

1055
00:51:40,547 --> 00:51:42,547
Speaker 7: those guys as exactly how it's going to work. But

1056
00:51:42,907 --> 00:51:46,227
Speaker 7: it's not New Zeon's cricket tournament you know, why would

1057
00:51:46,307 --> 00:51:52,627
Speaker 7: Nwzeon Cricket hand over the keys to anyone else to

1058
00:51:52,747 --> 00:51:55,547
Speaker 7: go out and make money off their game.

1059
00:51:55,827 --> 00:51:57,707
Speaker 2: Well, then in that case, then why would we send

1060
00:51:57,787 --> 00:52:00,187
Speaker 2: two teams to the Big Bash, as is one of

1061
00:52:00,227 --> 00:52:02,427
Speaker 2: the other suggestions on the table.

1062
00:52:03,467 --> 00:52:07,147
Speaker 7: Well, it's controlled by New Zeng Cricket, and Cricket maintains

1063
00:52:07,187 --> 00:52:07,747
Speaker 7: control of it.

1064
00:52:07,947 --> 00:52:10,267
Speaker 3: But the Big not the Big not the Big Bash,

1065
00:52:10,907 --> 00:52:12,267
Speaker 3: not the Big basin control.

1066
00:52:12,627 --> 00:52:15,667
Speaker 7: They main control. They maintain control of their own players

1067
00:52:15,867 --> 00:52:19,027
Speaker 7: and the terms and conditions for how it all works.

1068
00:52:19,147 --> 00:52:21,547
Speaker 7: And there's there's decent money in that, but that works.

1069
00:52:22,547 --> 00:52:23,067
Speaker 7: That works.

1070
00:52:25,267 --> 00:52:28,347
Speaker 2: The reason I think that people think this is a

1071
00:52:28,427 --> 00:52:32,387
Speaker 2: good idea is because the Super Smash is losing money.

1072
00:52:32,867 --> 00:52:35,227
Speaker 2: There's no broadcast deal for it next year, which it

1073
00:52:35,267 --> 00:52:37,787
Speaker 2: has I'm sure you know the broadcast deal with Sky

1074
00:52:38,467 --> 00:52:41,587
Speaker 2: which comes into effect next summer is International Cricket. So

1075
00:52:41,627 --> 00:52:45,467
Speaker 2: at the moment, there's no broadcast partner for the Super Smash,

1076
00:52:45,547 --> 00:52:50,387
Speaker 2: which means that there's no revenue stream created by that competition. Again,

1077
00:52:50,467 --> 00:52:54,267
Speaker 2: I just don't understand why you are not in favor

1078
00:52:54,387 --> 00:52:56,187
Speaker 2: of investment in the game here.

1079
00:52:57,427 --> 00:52:59,907
Speaker 7: It's is it investment in the game or is it

1080
00:53:00,027 --> 00:53:04,387
Speaker 7: investment in NZ twenty. When you say investments in the game,

1081
00:53:04,747 --> 00:53:07,227
Speaker 7: where does the money go? It doesn't go to New

1082
00:53:07,307 --> 00:53:07,907
Speaker 7: Zealand Cricket.

1083
00:53:08,067 --> 00:53:10,547
Speaker 2: Well, the major associations are part of New Zealand Cricket

1084
00:53:10,587 --> 00:53:13,067
Speaker 2: and as I understand it, they get a very good

1085
00:53:13,227 --> 00:53:17,107
Speaker 2: chunk of the revenue generated from this competition, that proposed competition.

1086
00:53:18,187 --> 00:53:20,627
Speaker 7: They do, they do, and then what do we end

1087
00:53:20,707 --> 00:53:23,427
Speaker 7: up with? If your money is coming from n Z twenty,

1088
00:53:23,587 --> 00:53:26,067
Speaker 7: not from New Zealand Cricket, what do you end up with?

1089
00:53:26,987 --> 00:53:28,627
Speaker 7: You know, do you end up with a cohesive New

1090
00:53:28,707 --> 00:53:31,027
Speaker 7: Zealand cricket scene or do you end up with a

1091
00:53:31,067 --> 00:53:37,507
Speaker 7: whole lot of minor associations, you know, independent operating independent.

1092
00:53:37,667 --> 00:53:39,987
Speaker 7: New Zealand's a small nation, right, we punch above our

1093
00:53:40,027 --> 00:53:43,107
Speaker 7: weight on the international circuit. Right, We've done really, really well.

1094
00:53:43,187 --> 00:53:45,307
Speaker 7: But the only way we can do that is if

1095
00:53:45,387 --> 00:53:49,627
Speaker 7: we maintain a cohesive unit where we're led from you know,

1096
00:53:50,187 --> 00:53:53,907
Speaker 7: the top down, and we're well organized. We play smart,

1097
00:53:54,027 --> 00:53:57,587
Speaker 7: we train smart. We shouldn't be performing the way we

1098
00:53:57,667 --> 00:54:00,987
Speaker 7: do on the world stage. We're a small, reasonably poorly

1099
00:54:01,107 --> 00:54:05,747
Speaker 7: funded country, right, we can't afford to be fractured. So,

1100
00:54:06,427 --> 00:54:09,747
Speaker 7: you know, there are other options. There's the big bash option.

1101
00:54:09,907 --> 00:54:11,547
Speaker 7: If it was such a great idea to run a

1102
00:54:11,587 --> 00:54:14,827
Speaker 7: franchise system, then why wouldn't you zeond Cricket run it.

1103
00:54:16,227 --> 00:54:18,027
Speaker 7: Why would they outsource it to someone else?

1104
00:54:18,347 --> 00:54:21,147
Speaker 2: Well, you said before that every other competition in the

1105
00:54:21,187 --> 00:54:25,587
Speaker 2: world has has ownership from its national association. Well, the IPL,

1106
00:54:25,747 --> 00:54:29,307
Speaker 2: the IPL, the IPL doesn't, The Caribbean Premier League doesn't.

1107
00:54:29,347 --> 00:54:31,427
Speaker 2: And I think that's the one that NZ twenty have

1108
00:54:31,547 --> 00:54:33,787
Speaker 2: kind of looked towards as a as a bit of

1109
00:54:33,827 --> 00:54:35,467
Speaker 2: a model for this proposal.

1110
00:54:36,307 --> 00:54:38,227
Speaker 7: Yeah, you're right. No, I didn't say all of them.

1111
00:54:38,307 --> 00:54:42,307
Speaker 7: I said the South African, the the BBL, the English

1112
00:54:42,387 --> 00:54:45,667
Speaker 7: one hundred are all owned by the governing association. The

1113
00:54:45,747 --> 00:54:48,987
Speaker 7: West Indian one, You're right, it's owned by some Irish billionaire,

1114
00:54:49,027 --> 00:54:54,027
Speaker 7: I think, And I don't think the West Indian model

1115
00:54:54,107 --> 00:54:56,187
Speaker 7: was the model to be following. If that's the model

1116
00:54:56,187 --> 00:55:01,067
Speaker 7: they're following, then we're in trouble. Why so, Well, the

1117
00:55:01,347 --> 00:55:04,387
Speaker 7: state of West Indian Cricket. I mean they can't get

1118
00:55:04,427 --> 00:55:06,307
Speaker 7: their plate you know, from where they were to wear

1119
00:55:06,427 --> 00:55:11,587
Speaker 7: they are now they're not a cohesive unit. They're struggling

1120
00:55:11,667 --> 00:55:14,227
Speaker 7: on the world stage. They've got they can't get their

1121
00:55:14,307 --> 00:55:18,347
Speaker 7: best players playing for the national team. It's difficult for them.

1122
00:55:18,787 --> 00:55:21,787
Speaker 7: They've lost to some degree, they've lost control. And this

1123
00:55:21,947 --> 00:55:24,827
Speaker 7: is what we fear is when New Zealand Cricket loses

1124
00:55:24,947 --> 00:55:30,107
Speaker 7: control of the game, then New Zealand Cricket at grassroots

1125
00:55:30,187 --> 00:55:32,347
Speaker 7: level but even up to the up to the international

1126
00:55:32,467 --> 00:55:36,347
Speaker 7: level will not be as strong. And I just think,

1127
00:55:36,467 --> 00:55:39,387
Speaker 7: you know, the game needs to be controlled by New

1128
00:55:39,467 --> 00:55:44,227
Speaker 7: Zealand Cricket and this board, this board need to look

1129
00:55:44,307 --> 00:55:45,667
Speaker 7: after New Zealand Cricket.

1130
00:55:46,787 --> 00:55:48,867
Speaker 3: Well, look, you won't get an argument from me on that.

1131
00:55:49,227 --> 00:55:49,547
Speaker 3: You're right.

1132
00:55:49,667 --> 00:55:53,187
Speaker 2: It's the board's responsibility to administer or other oversee the

1133
00:55:53,307 --> 00:55:57,827
Speaker 2: game strategically at all levels, including at international level. But

1134
00:55:57,947 --> 00:55:59,787
Speaker 2: as I said before Itchard, New Zealand Cricket have the

1135
00:55:59,867 --> 00:56:03,667
Speaker 2: final sign off on what happens next to our domestic

1136
00:56:03,787 --> 00:56:08,147
Speaker 2: T twenty competition. So why on earth would they grant

1137
00:56:08,307 --> 00:56:10,907
Speaker 2: n Z twenty a license you know NZ twenty dom

1138
00:56:10,947 --> 00:56:13,587
Speaker 2: mcinn and I listened to Daniel McCarty's interview yesterday and

1139
00:56:13,627 --> 00:56:15,987
Speaker 2: he said, look, have they decide that where the best option,

1140
00:56:16,187 --> 00:56:18,307
Speaker 2: then then we'll embrace that. If they decide we're not,

1141
00:56:18,427 --> 00:56:20,827
Speaker 2: then we'll shake hands and walk away. Why would New

1142
00:56:20,907 --> 00:56:23,707
Speaker 2: Zealand Cricket go down a path which would be detrimental

1143
00:56:23,787 --> 00:56:24,067
Speaker 2: to them?

1144
00:56:27,267 --> 00:56:29,107
Speaker 7: Well, well, that's a question you have to ask the

1145
00:56:29,187 --> 00:56:34,307
Speaker 7: board members, right. You know, from my point of view,

1146
00:56:34,507 --> 00:56:36,467
Speaker 7: having having been and watched and played in the game

1147
00:56:36,547 --> 00:56:40,267
Speaker 7: and being involved, it seems the craziest decision I have

1148
00:56:40,427 --> 00:56:43,747
Speaker 7: ever seen, you know, in the history of you know,

1149
00:56:43,867 --> 00:56:47,467
Speaker 7: since I've been around. It's unbelievable. And I know I'm

1150
00:56:47,507 --> 00:56:49,347
Speaker 7: not the only one, and you know, I've got a

1151
00:56:49,387 --> 00:56:53,627
Speaker 7: lot of contacts, but there are people on the board

1152
00:56:54,027 --> 00:56:56,707
Speaker 7: who who are either you know, it's a I think

1153
00:56:56,747 --> 00:56:59,627
Speaker 7: it's a very weak board at one end, that's that's

1154
00:56:59,707 --> 00:57:01,467
Speaker 7: the nicest thing you could say about it. At the

1155
00:57:01,507 --> 00:57:07,187
Speaker 7: other end, it's potentially compromised. So summer on that scale,

1156
00:57:08,387 --> 00:57:11,947
Speaker 7: if that board lets this happen, you know, what's the

1157
00:57:12,107 --> 00:57:14,067
Speaker 7: space it's it's a dangerous thing to do.

1158
00:57:15,427 --> 00:57:19,107
Speaker 2: Again, the Board are in charge of the future direction

1159
00:57:19,307 --> 00:57:22,267
Speaker 2: and strategy of New Zealand Cricket at all levels and

1160
00:57:22,347 --> 00:57:25,187
Speaker 2: then they hand down that decision to the CEO and

1161
00:57:25,227 --> 00:57:27,747
Speaker 2: the operational team to execute that strategy.

1162
00:57:27,947 --> 00:57:30,507
Speaker 3: So again they they.

1163
00:57:32,307 --> 00:57:36,587
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's there it's their duty, their responsibility

1164
00:57:36,707 --> 00:57:39,747
Speaker 2: to come up with the best outcome, isn't it.

1165
00:57:40,187 --> 00:57:45,387
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's there, Absolutely it is. And it's our duty

1166
00:57:45,427 --> 00:57:48,747
Speaker 7: as former players to say to put our point and

1167
00:57:48,907 --> 00:57:52,267
Speaker 7: say we think if you're thinking of going down this path,

1168
00:57:52,867 --> 00:57:55,627
Speaker 7: we think it's the wrong path. I mean, they'll make

1169
00:57:55,667 --> 00:57:57,587
Speaker 7: the decision. It won't be me or anyone else. But

1170
00:57:58,147 --> 00:58:00,627
Speaker 7: you know, rest assured that that board is not a

1171
00:58:00,667 --> 00:58:01,267
Speaker 7: happy board.

1172
00:58:01,867 --> 00:58:03,627
Speaker 2: All right, just back to just back to what it

1173
00:58:03,667 --> 00:58:06,107
Speaker 2: could mean then, as you say we're going down this path,

1174
00:58:06,347 --> 00:58:08,747
Speaker 2: as I understand that the proposal is for our top

1175
00:58:08,827 --> 00:58:11,267
Speaker 2: female cricketers to be available for three weeks in December,

1176
00:58:11,747 --> 00:58:13,907
Speaker 2: and our top male cricket is to be available for

1177
00:58:13,947 --> 00:58:17,507
Speaker 2: pretty much the calendar month of January, you know, inside

1178
00:58:17,747 --> 00:58:21,027
Speaker 2: existing agreements. And I saw it suggested that perhaps players

1179
00:58:21,027 --> 00:58:23,227
Speaker 2: will be pulled out of the Test series against Australia

1180
00:58:23,307 --> 00:58:26,587
Speaker 2: in January next year, which has never been suggested, never

1181
00:58:26,707 --> 00:58:30,747
Speaker 2: been talked about. But let's say it's January. There isn't

1182
00:58:30,747 --> 00:58:33,827
Speaker 2: any international cricket here in January anyway, Richard. There wasn't

1183
00:58:33,907 --> 00:58:37,627
Speaker 2: last summer, there isn't this summer. So why wouldn't that

1184
00:58:37,707 --> 00:58:38,667
Speaker 2: window be a good one.

1185
00:58:39,747 --> 00:58:42,507
Speaker 7: Well, if it's completely open then from a point of

1186
00:58:42,587 --> 00:58:46,867
Speaker 7: view of cricket, fine, But I think there's the Fourth

1187
00:58:46,987 --> 00:58:49,747
Speaker 7: Test that falls into January, and there's a Shri Lankan

1188
00:58:49,787 --> 00:58:51,387
Speaker 7: tour that falls into January, isn't there?

1189
00:58:51,707 --> 00:58:54,427
Speaker 3: Yeah, there is, And as I'm sure you heard Don

1190
00:58:54,507 --> 00:58:57,427
Speaker 3: McKinnon say yesterday, there is no suggestion that players would

1191
00:58:57,427 --> 00:59:00,747
Speaker 3: be pulled out of their test commitments in January to

1192
00:59:01,587 --> 00:59:04,067
Speaker 3: play n Z twenty if in fact that is the

1193
00:59:04,147 --> 00:59:05,307
Speaker 3: proposal that goes ahead.

1194
00:59:06,427 --> 00:59:08,947
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, they've been pretty light on detail. But he

1195
00:59:09,027 --> 00:59:11,627
Speaker 7: also said there'd be three to four international players in

1196
00:59:11,667 --> 00:59:14,107
Speaker 7: each team, didn't Hey, yep, that's what I picked up. Yep.

1197
00:59:14,147 --> 00:59:14,987
Speaker 3: He said that to me as well.

1198
00:59:15,027 --> 00:59:17,627
Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, Well where are they coming from?

1199
00:59:18,707 --> 00:59:21,907
Speaker 2: Well, I guess internationally would be from the cricket playing

1200
00:59:21,987 --> 00:59:25,467
Speaker 2: nations around the world. The same part types of players

1201
00:59:25,747 --> 00:59:27,747
Speaker 2: that they're playing the Big Bash, that play in the

1202
00:59:27,827 --> 00:59:31,107
Speaker 2: South African competition. Those sorts of players, i'd imagine would

1203
00:59:31,107 --> 00:59:32,867
Speaker 2: be the ones that he's talking about.

1204
00:59:33,827 --> 00:59:35,667
Speaker 7: Well, they're playing in the Big Bash and they're playing

1205
00:59:35,667 --> 00:59:36,347
Speaker 7: in South Africa.

1206
00:59:36,467 --> 00:59:38,787
Speaker 2: Come on, Rich, there's more than there's a lot of

1207
00:59:38,827 --> 00:59:39,907
Speaker 2: cricketers around the world.

1208
00:59:41,187 --> 00:59:44,827
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, but you know, three to four international players

1209
00:59:44,867 --> 00:59:47,707
Speaker 7: and these teams, I mean they're a bit light on

1210
00:59:47,827 --> 00:59:50,987
Speaker 7: detail because I don't think he actually means that seriously,

1211
00:59:51,187 --> 00:59:55,107
Speaker 7: because you know, what we need is I think way

1212
00:59:55,187 --> 00:59:59,307
Speaker 7: more detail on this because and it's just a highly

1213
00:59:59,947 --> 01:00:03,707
Speaker 7: risky situation that they need to answer a lot more

1214
01:00:03,787 --> 01:00:07,267
Speaker 7: questions on it. It's you know, I can tell you

1215
01:00:07,387 --> 01:00:13,187
Speaker 7: now that it's a very divided there's two sides. It's

1216
01:00:13,307 --> 01:00:18,107
Speaker 7: very divided. It's quite emotional. It's you know, there's a

1217
01:00:18,187 --> 01:00:20,027
Speaker 7: lot going on behind the scenes.

1218
01:00:19,987 --> 01:00:22,947
Speaker 2: Which is a shame because emotion needs to be taken

1219
01:00:23,027 --> 01:00:25,187
Speaker 2: out of this. In many ways, we need to hover

1220
01:00:25,267 --> 01:00:27,387
Speaker 2: above this and say what is best for the game.

1221
01:00:27,467 --> 01:00:29,867
Speaker 2: I know you want what's best for the game. You

1222
01:00:29,947 --> 01:00:32,987
Speaker 2: know a further a former international player and someone who's

1223
01:00:33,027 --> 01:00:35,227
Speaker 2: always been deeply invested in it, Richard, you and I've

1224
01:00:35,267 --> 01:00:37,187
Speaker 2: talked a lot about cricket, all in all sorts of

1225
01:00:37,227 --> 01:00:39,867
Speaker 2: different ways over the time that I have known you.

1226
01:00:40,067 --> 01:00:42,467
Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, the game has

1227
01:00:42,507 --> 01:00:44,507
Speaker 2: to sit in the middle of this conversation. It can't

1228
01:00:44,547 --> 01:00:46,987
Speaker 2: be hijacked by emotion and hyperbole.

1229
01:00:49,307 --> 01:00:50,987
Speaker 7: I agree, it's got to be the best decision for

1230
01:00:51,067 --> 01:00:53,107
Speaker 7: the game. And that's what the letter from Hadley and

1231
01:00:53,227 --> 01:00:58,747
Speaker 7: Sneden and Murdoch and Stephen Boch were saying is listen, guys,

1232
01:00:59,147 --> 01:01:01,427
Speaker 7: you've got to put cricket first and you've got to

1233
01:01:01,627 --> 01:01:04,667
Speaker 7: sort this out. One of their comments was you've got

1234
01:01:04,707 --> 01:01:07,187
Speaker 7: to play the play the play the ball, not the man.

1235
01:01:08,427 --> 01:01:08,587
Speaker 7: You know.

1236
01:01:08,907 --> 01:01:11,747
Speaker 2: Again, that's that's removing emotion, isn't it. That's another way

1237
01:01:11,747 --> 01:01:14,187
Speaker 2: of saying, let's remove the emotion from this. Let's look

1238
01:01:14,227 --> 01:01:16,387
Speaker 2: at the options on the table and let's work out

1239
01:01:16,387 --> 01:01:17,507
Speaker 2: what is best going forward.

1240
01:01:19,627 --> 01:01:23,867
Speaker 7: Absolutely absolutely, it's what work out what's best going forward.

1241
01:01:24,147 --> 01:01:26,827
Speaker 7: And I guess what I'm saying is, or what we're

1242
01:01:26,867 --> 01:01:30,267
Speaker 7: saying is, you know, you've got to have New Zealand

1243
01:01:30,347 --> 01:01:34,427
Speaker 7: Cricket in control of New Zealand Cricket. Once you once

1244
01:01:34,467 --> 01:01:39,267
Speaker 7: you vote to give away power and put your revenue

1245
01:01:39,307 --> 01:01:43,027
Speaker 7: streams at risk, you're putting yourself in a weak position

1246
01:01:43,387 --> 01:01:47,347
Speaker 7: and it's very hard to get it back. So you know,

1247
01:01:47,547 --> 01:01:50,147
Speaker 7: New Zealand Cricket needs to be running New Zealand Cricket.

1248
01:01:51,067 --> 01:01:53,667
Speaker 2: All right, we are going to disagree obviously on a

1249
01:01:53,947 --> 01:01:56,147
Speaker 2: couple of points here. One final thing I wanted to

1250
01:01:56,227 --> 01:01:59,027
Speaker 2: ask you, you accept this as not a rebel.

1251
01:01:58,787 --> 01:01:59,707
Speaker 3: League, right.

1252
01:02:01,867 --> 01:02:03,227
Speaker 7: It depends on how you define it.

1253
01:02:03,547 --> 01:02:04,347
Speaker 3: How do you define it.

1254
01:02:09,627 --> 01:02:12,187
Speaker 7: I would say a rebel league as where outsiders come

1255
01:02:12,267 --> 01:02:15,947
Speaker 7: in and look to take over a situation using all

1256
01:02:16,067 --> 01:02:17,387
Speaker 7: sorts of means possible.

1257
01:02:19,387 --> 01:02:21,867
Speaker 2: And also I think I think the suggestion is that

1258
01:02:21,947 --> 01:02:25,147
Speaker 2: it would run alongside an existing league, which there's no

1259
01:02:25,307 --> 01:02:28,067
Speaker 2: suggestion that this would. I like the the ic L,

1260
01:02:28,147 --> 01:02:30,627
Speaker 2: I think, which ran alongside the I p L. Ic

1261
01:02:30,907 --> 01:02:34,147
Speaker 2: L was a rebel league, which which wasn't sanctioned any

1262
01:02:34,187 --> 01:02:36,147
Speaker 2: competition that's run here in New Zealand. As I say,

1263
01:02:36,187 --> 01:02:37,867
Speaker 2: it's going to be sanctioned by New Zealand Cricket. This

1264
01:02:38,027 --> 01:02:39,947
Speaker 2: is not a rebel league, that's right.

1265
01:02:40,067 --> 01:02:42,547
Speaker 7: No, No, you're right on that basis. You know it

1266
01:02:42,587 --> 01:02:46,107
Speaker 7: would be if it was sanctioned by by the Board

1267
01:02:46,107 --> 01:02:49,707
Speaker 7: of New Zealand Cricket. I mean the question is the

1268
01:02:49,747 --> 01:02:52,307
Speaker 7: Board of New Zealand Cricket. You know that's an interesting one.

1269
01:02:52,947 --> 01:02:55,467
Speaker 7: That's an interesting group, all right.

1270
01:02:55,547 --> 01:02:58,267
Speaker 2: Richard always enjoyed chatting. Thanks for being so frank and

1271
01:02:58,827 --> 01:02:59,827
Speaker 2: joining us this afternoon.

1272
01:03:00,987 --> 01:03:02,947
Speaker 7: No problem, Thanks Jason, Thanks Richard.

1273
01:03:02,787 --> 01:03:05,667
Speaker 2: Richard Petrie joining us. There a lot to unpack there

1274
01:03:05,787 --> 01:03:10,427
Speaker 2: a lot to un pack. My overwriting feeling on this

1275
01:03:10,787 --> 01:03:14,387
Speaker 2: is that the game of cricket is being forgotten in.

1276
01:03:17,027 --> 01:03:20,347
Speaker 3: The emotion of this, the.

1277
01:03:21,907 --> 01:03:27,827
Speaker 2: Personality conflicts of this, the slinging back and forth. I

1278
01:03:27,907 --> 01:03:30,827
Speaker 2: read the open letter signed by Richard Petree and others

1279
01:03:30,867 --> 01:03:33,467
Speaker 2: on Thursday, and I thought that was high on emotion

1280
01:03:35,387 --> 01:03:38,547
Speaker 2: more so than substance. That's why I wanted to get

1281
01:03:38,627 --> 01:03:40,027
Speaker 2: him on the show and ask him about a couple

1282
01:03:40,067 --> 01:03:43,267
Speaker 2: of things. I thought he put his point across, and

1283
01:03:43,587 --> 01:03:46,627
Speaker 2: I don't agree with him, and I'm not sure that

1284
01:03:46,667 --> 01:03:49,307
Speaker 2: we all have to agree. I think n ZED twenty

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Speaker 2: would be the shot in the arm that the game

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Speaker 2: needs here in New Zealand, in its shortest format. I

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Speaker 2: think again, it's just a proposal, and moving forward, it

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Speaker 2: would mean that our top female players would play in

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Speaker 2: instead twenty the women's competition into December, and our top

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Speaker 2: men's players, all of them, all of our top black Caps,

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Speaker 2: would play a n Z twenty the men's competition in

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Speaker 2: January every year. That is my understanding of it. Look,

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Speaker 2: there's no international men's cricket in January anyway, not this year,

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Speaker 2: not last year. And there's no international women's cricket in December.

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Speaker 2: Why can't it be carved out that little window, well,

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Speaker 2: not at a window, that window in the heart of summer.

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Speaker 2: So we have international cricket for the men before Christmas,

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Speaker 2: as we have right now, and then we revert back

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Speaker 2: to that mid February and into March and April like

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Speaker 2: we used to. Teams have been coming to New Zealand

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Speaker 2: and February and March.

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Speaker 3: Forever. But the big, the big point to remember here,

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Speaker 3: the main point to remember.

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Speaker 2: Is that whatever is decided, it will be decided with

1305
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Speaker 2: New Zealand Crickets sign off. N Z twenty can't just

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Speaker 2: come in and start up. That is not the way

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Speaker 2: these things work. They need to work in a collaborative

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Speaker 2: way with New Zealand Cricket. As to all of if

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Speaker 2: anybody else had an idea, the big bash idea, you know,

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Speaker 2: a way to supersize the current super smash, any idea

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01:05:27,827 --> 01:05:30,627
Speaker 2: needs to be collaborative and New Zealand Cricket needs to

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Speaker 2: look at all the options on the table and say, right,

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Speaker 2: that is the one for us, that's the one we're

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Speaker 2: taking forward. Look, it's not n Z twenty's job to

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Speaker 2: decide for New Zealand cricket. What the best way forward is.

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Speaker 2: They're not going to look at the other options and

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Speaker 2: say why quite like that? All that one's okay. They're

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Speaker 2: going to say, look, this is what we think we've

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Speaker 2: got together, and here is what we think would really

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Speaker 2: benefit the game. Here the T twenty game, a franchise

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Speaker 2: competition with three maybe four imports per team, six teams

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Speaker 2: based loosely on the major associations, playing in December for

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Speaker 2: the women, January for the men, and holiday high spots

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Speaker 2: around the place, selling it to a broadcaster, having foreign investment,

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Speaker 2: and for some reason that has become in some ways

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Speaker 2: a negative thing when narrative has been thrown around about this,

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Speaker 2: but foreign investors, there is so much money in Indian cricket.

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Speaker 2: There are Indian individuals who would invest in the league

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Speaker 2: and in the teams here in New Zealand, so they

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Speaker 2: would invest and bring in players. Look, the argument I've

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01:06:40,587 --> 01:06:41,987
Speaker 2: seen is that there are a lot of players playing

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Speaker 2: in the Big Bash and the South African competition at

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Speaker 2: the same time. If an owner of one of these

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Speaker 2: teams wanted to go and get a high profile person

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Speaker 2: and they were willing to pay for it, so be

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Speaker 2: it that money doesn't come out of New Zealand Cricket,

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01:06:54,787 --> 01:06:57,627
Speaker 2: it comes out of the pocket of the owner. Do

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Speaker 2: not underestimate how much money there is an Indian cricket

1339
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Speaker 2: and how much ambition there is for ownership of teams. Again,

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Speaker 2: I take it back, anything that happens here has to

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Speaker 2: be signed off and sanctioned by New Zealand Cricket. And

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Speaker 2: sed B Hello Grant, Yeah, Hony.

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Speaker 14: I think the key thing in my mind is New

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Speaker 14: Zealand Cricket having control over the competition because the way

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Speaker 14: it's proposed at the moment, it appears once if they

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Speaker 14: sign off and give them a license, then that's it

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Speaker 14: for that.

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Speaker 3: They lose control of the t of the T twenty game.

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Speaker 14: Here grant yes, yeah, yeah, and then you know the

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Speaker 14: T twenty people can change the schedule all around.

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Speaker 3: No no, no, no Grant, no no no.

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Speaker 2: They are basically what they would sign off on is

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01:09:16,827 --> 01:09:20,347
Speaker 2: an agreed plan between the two between those who are

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Speaker 2: running in Z twenty and New Zealand Cricket. They would

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01:09:23,707 --> 01:09:26,027
Speaker 2: if New Zealand Cricket decide that this is the way forward,

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01:09:26,507 --> 01:09:28,547
Speaker 2: then they would give that the tick and then the

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Speaker 2: two parties would sit down and say, okay, here is

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01:09:30,707 --> 01:09:34,867
Speaker 2: the framework within which we will operate and inn Z twenty,

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01:09:35,027 --> 01:09:37,307
Speaker 2: let's say it is them if we take this down

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01:09:37,347 --> 01:09:40,667
Speaker 2: that path, would agree to a set of terms, in

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01:09:40,787 --> 01:09:45,387
Speaker 2: particular around time frames, access to players, availability, that sort

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01:09:45,427 --> 01:09:48,147
Speaker 2: of thing. Both parties would agree to that, they'd sign

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01:09:48,267 --> 01:09:49,307
Speaker 2: it and away we'd go.

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Speaker 14: Well, I would certainly want that. You know, a lot

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Speaker 14: of King's Councils on New Zealand Cricket side going over

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01:09:59,187 --> 01:10:02,267
Speaker 14: agreements to make sure that's right, because there are all

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01:10:03,147 --> 01:10:07,627
Speaker 14: sort of subtle ways of you know we I mean,

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Speaker 14: the thing is, these people are in it for property

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Speaker 14: and not the best interest in New Genera cricket. They're

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Speaker 14: they're in it for profit and the you know the thing.

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Speaker 7: Oh well you know this player.

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Speaker 14: These players can't be available for test cricket at the

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Speaker 14: moment because they're injured. Using cricket. Might say, well, can

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Speaker 14: we have our New Zealand cricket doctor look at them? No,

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01:10:30,107 --> 01:10:32,227
Speaker 14: we have our doctor. He sees they're injured. The end

1402
01:10:32,267 --> 01:10:32,707
Speaker 14: of story.

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01:10:33,267 --> 01:10:36,787
Speaker 3: But but they that would operate outside in a different window.

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01:10:37,427 --> 01:10:38,147
Speaker 3: You say that that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why the two things can both be

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01:10:41,387 --> 01:10:44,067
Speaker 2: to Grant, why can't this and the best interest of

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01:10:44,147 --> 01:10:45,627
Speaker 2: New Zealand cricket be the same thing?

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Speaker 14: Uh, we're where there's private enterprise involved, sometimes there is corruption.

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01:10:58,987 --> 01:11:02,987
Speaker 2: Okay, well, well, Grant, I think we're we're getting into

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01:11:03,027 --> 01:11:07,467
Speaker 2: a very dangerous area there where there's private investment involved,

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01:11:07,907 --> 01:11:11,387
Speaker 2: there is also resource. Look at Auckland f C. Auckland

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Speaker 2: f C the football team. I know you're a huge

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01:11:13,267 --> 01:11:16,307
Speaker 2: football fan, but you I'm sure I have seen the

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01:11:16,507 --> 01:11:20,267
Speaker 2: rise of Auckland f C under foreign investment from Bill Foley.

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Speaker 3: Why does it have to be a bad thing?

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01:11:27,547 --> 01:11:32,427
Speaker 14: Foreign invest investment per se is not bad thing. But

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01:11:33,067 --> 01:11:37,227
Speaker 14: every I in every T needs to be dotted because

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01:11:37,467 --> 01:11:41,147
Speaker 14: certainly you don't take anyone's word for anything, and I

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01:11:41,267 --> 01:11:44,387
Speaker 14: would think I would wonder if the board members that

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01:11:44,827 --> 01:11:47,467
Speaker 14: is like a fifty to fifty split. Roughly, it seems

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01:11:47,547 --> 01:11:51,427
Speaker 14: to be who are you know, very in favor of this.

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01:11:52,227 --> 01:11:55,067
Speaker 14: Do they have a cricketing background, those board members or

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01:11:55,107 --> 01:11:56,147
Speaker 14: are they business people?

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Speaker 2: Well Richard. When Richard said the board was split, I didn't.

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01:12:00,267 --> 01:12:02,187
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the first I've heard of that. And

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Speaker 2: also so I've got no idea if there is a split,

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01:12:05,067 --> 01:12:07,707
Speaker 2: and down which lines it is if there is one.

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01:12:08,227 --> 01:12:11,507
Speaker 2: But the board has brought together, the board of any

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01:12:12,507 --> 01:12:16,347
Speaker 2: you know, organization has brought together from a variety of backgrounds,

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01:12:16,867 --> 01:12:19,867
Speaker 2: and their job is to strategize the best way forward

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01:12:20,147 --> 01:12:23,067
Speaker 2: for their organization. That's the board's job. It felt to

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01:12:23,107 --> 01:12:25,347
Speaker 2: me as though Richard doesn't believe that the current board

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Speaker 2: you know, has the capability to do that, and again

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01:12:29,947 --> 01:12:31,867
Speaker 2: that that's probably a discussion to be have with the

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01:12:31,907 --> 01:12:34,267
Speaker 2: board rather the be it than to be had with

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Speaker 2: New Zealand with m Z twenty who have come to

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01:12:37,347 --> 01:12:40,907
Speaker 2: New Zealand cricket with an idea and said, hey what

1438
01:12:40,987 --> 01:12:43,227
Speaker 2: about this? This is this is something we think could work.

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01:12:43,707 --> 01:12:44,627
Speaker 2: That's what they've done.

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Speaker 14: He used, you know, for legal reasons, he used the word,

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01:12:52,427 --> 01:12:55,027
Speaker 14: some of these board members could be compromised.

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01:12:56,187 --> 01:12:58,307
Speaker 2: I think we know in what way though, and what

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01:12:58,627 --> 01:13:01,827
Speaker 2: and what possible way could they be compromised? How could

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01:13:01,827 --> 01:13:04,227
Speaker 2: they be compromised? You know, I think we need to

1445
01:13:04,707 --> 01:13:08,627
Speaker 2: we need to get away from this idea that the

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01:13:08,747 --> 01:13:13,667
Speaker 2: game is somehow being taken away from us. The people

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01:13:13,747 --> 01:13:19,827
Speaker 2: involved in NZ twenty are very proud New Zealand Cricket identities.

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Speaker 2: Stephen Fleming. Is Stephen Fleming really going to do anything

1449
01:13:25,747 --> 01:13:27,747
Speaker 2: that is going to be to the detriment of the

1450
01:13:27,867 --> 01:13:32,347
Speaker 2: game of cricket here in New Zealand? Is he really

1451
01:13:32,467 --> 01:13:35,307
Speaker 2: going to go down a path which is going to

1452
01:13:35,467 --> 01:13:38,147
Speaker 2: have a detrimental effect on the game here?

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Speaker 11: Is he?

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01:13:40,867 --> 01:13:44,547
Speaker 2: Don McKinnon is one of the most respected sports administrators

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01:13:44,667 --> 01:13:47,347
Speaker 2: in this country. Would he lend his name to something

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01:13:47,387 --> 01:13:53,227
Speaker 2: that would turn into a dumpster fire? Eighteen away from two?

1457
01:13:53,307 --> 01:13:54,827
Speaker 2: Thanks for your call, Grand always good to chat to you.

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Speaker 2: We'll take a break come back with our Australian correspondent

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Speaker 2: Adam Peacock.

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Speaker 2: Let's Pop across the Tasman. Adam Pacock, our Australian correspondence here,

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Speaker 2: Hello mate, Piey, how are very good things? Lots to

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01:14:18,827 --> 01:14:20,827
Speaker 2: get through with you? Can we start with the cricket?

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01:14:20,907 --> 01:14:23,707
Speaker 2: The second Nash's Test has already lasted longer than the

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Speaker 2: first one. We're into day three today, England three thirty four,

1469
01:14:27,267 --> 01:14:29,027
Speaker 2: Australia three seventy eight for six.

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Speaker 3: It stumps on day two. How do you assist the

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Speaker 3: first couple of days.

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Speaker 15: Even up until point and I think that point came

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01:14:38,507 --> 01:14:42,067
Speaker 15: probably last hour of the second session, and then it

1474
01:14:42,147 --> 01:14:44,587
Speaker 15: started to tip in Australia's favor. England tried to drag

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01:14:44,667 --> 01:14:48,667
Speaker 15: it back, but man, it's beautifully set up. Today we've

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Speaker 15: got in Brisbane. I'm in Brisbane. Actually I'm actually in

1477
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Speaker 15: the gym as I speak, because last night we're staying

1478
01:14:53,707 --> 01:14:56,427
Speaker 15: in Fortitude Valley and any of your listeners, no Fortitude

1479
01:14:56,507 --> 01:14:58,987
Speaker 15: Valley in Brisbane. It's a place where the next day

1480
01:14:59,027 --> 01:15:00,187
Speaker 15: you need to go to the gym, if you know

1481
01:15:00,227 --> 01:15:00,587
Speaker 15: what I mean.

1482
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Speaker 3: Love Ith.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, the outside is stinking hot thirty five degrees, but

1484
01:15:07,187 --> 01:15:08,707
Speaker 15: we're going to cop a storm a bit later on,

1485
01:15:08,907 --> 01:15:11,747
Speaker 15: so that could that could throw a few a few

1486
01:15:11,827 --> 01:15:15,867
Speaker 15: houstones from the from the heavens, but a bit. Australia

1487
01:15:15,947 --> 01:15:19,027
Speaker 15: are just ahead. A lot of good judges think that

1488
01:15:19,107 --> 01:15:21,027
Speaker 15: they're actually with a good bit of weather, it could

1489
01:15:21,067 --> 01:15:24,147
Speaker 15: be done today that England will fold. I'm not quite

1490
01:15:24,187 --> 01:15:25,067
Speaker 15: of that opinion, but.

1491
01:15:25,667 --> 01:15:26,347
Speaker 13: Yeah, Australia.

1492
01:15:26,707 --> 01:15:29,067
Speaker 15: Australia going okay in England there to lift and find

1493
01:15:29,147 --> 01:15:31,947
Speaker 15: something because at the moment they're bowling looks a little pedestrian.

1494
01:15:32,467 --> 01:15:36,027
Speaker 2: The big selection question around this, or the big selection

1495
01:15:36,307 --> 01:15:39,707
Speaker 2: discussion point, was Nathan Lyon dropped out of the side.

1496
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Speaker 2: He plays every teast pretty much on a dirty green

1497
01:15:42,987 --> 01:15:45,067
Speaker 2: sema to a dust bowl in the you know, up

1498
01:15:45,107 --> 01:15:47,187
Speaker 2: and up in India. How big a shock was it

1499
01:15:47,547 --> 01:15:49,827
Speaker 2: with Nathan Lyon being left out of the eleven.

1500
01:15:50,747 --> 01:15:51,107
Speaker 7: Yeah it was.

1501
01:15:51,307 --> 01:15:54,147
Speaker 15: It was big and it was you can understand if

1502
01:15:54,187 --> 01:15:56,027
Speaker 15: it was Pat Tummins coming back into the team, but

1503
01:15:56,107 --> 01:15:58,827
Speaker 15: it was for Michael Meisa who they went. They went

1504
01:15:58,907 --> 01:15:59,507
Speaker 15: the same option.

1505
01:15:59,627 --> 01:16:00,627
Speaker 7: They just looked deaf.

1506
01:16:01,027 --> 01:16:03,427
Speaker 15: They looked at the conditions with the pink ball and thought, yeah,

1507
01:16:03,467 --> 01:16:05,427
Speaker 15: Nathan's not going to really have a full effect here.

1508
01:16:06,067 --> 01:16:08,427
Speaker 15: I look, if they win the Test match, they can

1509
01:16:08,427 --> 01:16:11,507
Speaker 15: turn around and go well yeah, any problem with that.

1510
01:16:11,707 --> 01:16:14,467
Speaker 15: But yeah, I'm a little uncomfortable with this one. Look

1511
01:16:14,507 --> 01:16:16,827
Speaker 15: he got dropped in the West Indies with when they

1512
01:16:16,867 --> 01:16:18,627
Speaker 15: looked at the deck and went, well, this Test is

1513
01:16:18,667 --> 01:16:20,307
Speaker 15: going to go two days and so it proved with

1514
01:16:20,387 --> 01:16:22,987
Speaker 15: the West Indies were just horrible. But this one was

1515
01:16:23,027 --> 01:16:26,547
Speaker 15: a massive shock and George Bailey, the Chiefs selector, has

1516
01:16:26,547 --> 01:16:30,147
Speaker 15: said that Nathan's definitely back in for Adelaide. But yeah,

1517
01:16:30,227 --> 01:16:33,067
Speaker 15: it's just it was a weird one left field, but

1518
01:16:33,467 --> 01:16:36,067
Speaker 15: at the moment it seems to be just about working.

1519
01:16:36,187 --> 01:16:37,787
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess you can justify it with a result.

1520
01:16:38,027 --> 01:16:40,267
Speaker 3: How did he take his omission?

1521
01:16:40,467 --> 01:16:44,027
Speaker 15: Nathan Lyne, he's cooking, Yeah, absolutely cooking.

1522
01:16:44,107 --> 01:16:44,267
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1523
01:16:44,507 --> 01:16:47,267
Speaker 15: I saw him briefly yesterday and he goes, yeah he

1524
01:16:47,787 --> 01:16:49,787
Speaker 15: was over it by day two or not totally over it,

1525
01:16:49,867 --> 01:16:51,867
Speaker 15: but yeah, you know he's running the gloves yesterday and

1526
01:16:51,907 --> 01:16:55,427
Speaker 15: everything like that. But I said, oh, was there a

1527
01:16:55,467 --> 01:16:58,547
Speaker 15: thought that you go and play Sheffield Shield which started yesterday?

1528
01:16:58,547 --> 01:17:01,187
Speaker 15: And he lifted up his trousers and he had this

1529
01:17:01,427 --> 01:17:02,667
Speaker 15: massive bruise.

1530
01:17:02,347 --> 01:17:03,707
Speaker 7: On his shin because he went to the.

1531
01:17:04,107 --> 01:17:06,307
Speaker 15: After he got dropped, he went in bold. It was

1532
01:17:06,347 --> 01:17:08,507
Speaker 15: when Kuwajar and bow Webster who also missed out on

1533
01:17:08,587 --> 01:17:11,467
Speaker 15: selection and apparently bo Webs that cracked this straight drive

1534
01:17:11,547 --> 01:17:13,507
Speaker 15: and it went straight into Nathan Shin. So it just

1535
01:17:13,507 --> 01:17:16,427
Speaker 15: stopped off a wonderful day for the lad. Anyway, he's

1536
01:17:16,467 --> 01:17:18,867
Speaker 15: a good guy. He'll bounce back and everyone will support

1537
01:17:18,947 --> 01:17:20,867
Speaker 15: him when he plays in Adelaide.

1538
01:17:21,187 --> 01:17:23,987
Speaker 2: Alamata's around Today, the FIFA World Cup draw has been made.

1539
01:17:24,067 --> 01:17:27,987
Speaker 2: The soccer US grouped with the United States, Paraguay and

1540
01:17:28,227 --> 01:17:32,547
Speaker 2: a European playoff winner one of Slovakia, Kosovo, Turkey or Romania.

1541
01:17:33,307 --> 01:17:34,947
Speaker 3: That looks all right to me. How do you evaluate

1542
01:17:34,987 --> 01:17:36,267
Speaker 3: your ability to get out of that group?

1543
01:17:37,107 --> 01:17:39,587
Speaker 15: Yeah, it's a possibility. I think it's a pretty even

1544
01:17:39,627 --> 01:17:41,947
Speaker 15: group really, US. We don't know how they'll perform in

1545
01:17:41,987 --> 01:17:44,907
Speaker 15: front of home crowd. Paraguy will have support, but they're

1546
01:17:44,907 --> 01:17:47,587
Speaker 15: not the biggest South American nation. There'll be difficult to beat.

1547
01:17:47,667 --> 01:17:50,787
Speaker 15: From my memory of Paraguay, they're always hard to break down.

1548
01:17:51,267 --> 01:17:53,867
Speaker 15: And that European nation where you can get anything there.

1549
01:17:53,947 --> 01:17:58,787
Speaker 15: Turkey will be a good side. Turkey sometimes can not

1550
01:17:58,947 --> 01:18:01,427
Speaker 15: live up to the hype of what their collective could

1551
01:18:01,547 --> 01:18:02,507
Speaker 15: potentially bring.

1552
01:18:02,707 --> 01:18:05,787
Speaker 7: But yeah, I like the draw we go.

1553
01:18:06,667 --> 01:18:10,747
Speaker 15: Importantly for me, finance all about geography and place is

1554
01:18:10,787 --> 01:18:13,347
Speaker 15: going to visit. I'm looking forward to Vancouver, Seattle and

1555
01:18:13,707 --> 01:18:16,427
Speaker 15: San Francisco. How did the all whites fare in terms

1556
01:18:16,467 --> 01:18:18,507
Speaker 15: of not just all but venues well?

1557
01:18:18,587 --> 01:18:22,667
Speaker 2: Venue similar Vancouver, Seattle and Los Angeles for us, So look,

1558
01:18:22,707 --> 01:18:24,547
Speaker 2: you and I may well bump into it another of

1559
01:18:24,627 --> 01:18:27,067
Speaker 2: four things go well in sort of June.

1560
01:18:26,867 --> 01:18:27,787
Speaker 3: And July of next year.

1561
01:18:27,787 --> 01:18:29,947
Speaker 2: I've also had it pointed out to me that if

1562
01:18:30,027 --> 01:18:32,187
Speaker 2: we are runner up in our group, and look, this

1563
01:18:32,307 --> 01:18:34,587
Speaker 2: is drawing a long bow because we've got Belgium, Egypt

1564
01:18:34,707 --> 01:18:37,947
Speaker 2: and Egypt and Iran and your runner up in your group,

1565
01:18:38,467 --> 01:18:41,227
Speaker 2: then New Zealand would play Australia in the round of

1566
01:18:41,307 --> 01:18:41,827
Speaker 2: thirty two.

1567
01:18:42,747 --> 01:18:46,227
Speaker 3: No way, yeah, yeah, how good?

1568
01:18:46,307 --> 01:18:46,827
Speaker 12: Do you know where?

1569
01:18:47,107 --> 01:18:47,627
Speaker 7: I don't know.

1570
01:18:48,027 --> 01:18:51,027
Speaker 2: I'm sure I should have checked where, but no, I

1571
01:18:51,107 --> 01:18:53,147
Speaker 2: don't know where. But I mean it's not beyond the realms,

1572
01:18:53,187 --> 01:18:55,587
Speaker 2: so possible. I think, you know, you guys, finishing runners

1573
01:18:55,627 --> 01:18:57,627
Speaker 2: up in that group is well and truly on the table.

1574
01:18:57,667 --> 01:18:58,987
Speaker 2: We'd probably need to do a bit of work, but

1575
01:18:59,387 --> 01:19:00,987
Speaker 2: I ran and Egypt, you know there are games that

1576
01:19:01,347 --> 01:19:03,027
Speaker 2: we had the All Whites coach there and basically on

1577
01:19:03,147 --> 01:19:04,627
Speaker 2: last hour and he said, yeah, well, you know, we

1578
01:19:05,187 --> 01:19:06,707
Speaker 2: know they're going to be tough, but we are going

1579
01:19:06,787 --> 01:19:07,907
Speaker 2: to try and win those games.

1580
01:19:08,747 --> 01:19:12,107
Speaker 15: That's not Yeah, that's not a horrible drawer either, No, no, yeah,

1581
01:19:12,267 --> 01:19:14,307
Speaker 15: I think that's what you get with the forty eight.

1582
01:19:15,147 --> 01:19:17,827
Speaker 15: You get a bit of hope about your group because

1583
01:19:18,747 --> 01:19:21,867
Speaker 15: you know, I think if Graham Arnold gets through with

1584
01:19:21,907 --> 01:19:24,827
Speaker 15: a ruck, he's got an absolute shot up with his

1585
01:19:25,027 --> 01:19:30,667
Speaker 15: group France, Senegal and one other three handy nations, that's

1586
01:19:30,707 --> 01:19:34,147
Speaker 15: about as bad as it gets. So yeah, Pop four

1587
01:19:34,187 --> 01:19:37,627
Speaker 15: teams are kind of less vulnerable, but I don't think

1588
01:19:37,707 --> 01:19:39,507
Speaker 15: so many of them will look at it and go, yeah, well,

1589
01:19:39,947 --> 01:19:42,707
Speaker 15: what's the point of even showing up. It's really spread

1590
01:19:42,747 --> 01:19:42,987
Speaker 15: it a bit.

1591
01:19:43,067 --> 01:19:43,227
Speaker 7: Sin.

1592
01:19:43,627 --> 01:19:43,827
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1593
01:19:43,827 --> 01:19:46,427
Speaker 2: The other team in that group is Norway with Earling Arland.

1594
01:19:48,227 --> 01:19:52,347
Speaker 2: You go there, Arnie, exactly brilliant.

1595
01:19:52,387 --> 01:19:54,907
Speaker 3: And speaking of World Cups and draws for World Cups,

1596
01:19:54,907 --> 01:19:56,587
Speaker 3: there was a Rugby World Cup draw this week and

1597
01:19:57,387 --> 01:19:59,787
Speaker 3: the Wallabies and the All Blacks are in the same

1598
01:19:59,907 --> 01:20:01,827
Speaker 3: Paul at a World Cup for the first time. Surely

1599
01:20:02,227 --> 01:20:04,187
Speaker 3: that's the opening game of the tournament.

1600
01:20:06,347 --> 01:20:11,307
Speaker 15: Imagined, so, but it's it's the World Rugby, so you

1601
01:20:11,387 --> 01:20:14,667
Speaker 15: don't know what they cake in the world. Sometimes, yeah,

1602
01:20:15,027 --> 01:20:18,547
Speaker 15: you'd imagine that Stadium Australia or Home Bush in Sydney

1603
01:20:18,667 --> 01:20:23,587
Speaker 15: becomes the opening game there where of course do we

1604
01:20:23,667 --> 01:20:26,747
Speaker 15: mention two thousand and three were happily?

1605
01:20:26,827 --> 01:20:28,547
Speaker 2: I think, actually it's going to be in Perth. Well

1606
01:20:28,547 --> 01:20:31,187
Speaker 2: I don't know whether that's good or not, but yeah, no,

1607
01:20:31,307 --> 01:20:33,147
Speaker 2: the opening game of the Rugby World Cups and Perth.

1608
01:20:34,387 --> 01:20:38,747
Speaker 2: Why well, all I'm giving you is the information. I

1609
01:20:38,827 --> 01:20:40,027
Speaker 2: can't give you an explanation.

1610
01:20:41,107 --> 01:20:44,827
Speaker 15: Yeah, maybe that's European cver your audience and had a

1611
01:20:44,867 --> 01:20:48,467
Speaker 15: bit of power over that. But if it's a stratoners anyway,

1612
01:20:48,587 --> 01:20:52,347
Speaker 15: whatever played on the Moon will probably watch. But yeah,

1613
01:20:53,227 --> 01:20:56,587
Speaker 15: interesting draw. Not a great one for the Wallabies. Of course,

1614
01:20:56,867 --> 01:21:00,227
Speaker 15: they seriously need to lift in the next eighteen months

1615
01:21:00,227 --> 01:21:02,507
Speaker 15: that they're going to even think about getting past a

1616
01:21:03,267 --> 01:21:06,427
Speaker 15: quarter final there at the World Cup. But yeah, how

1617
01:21:06,547 --> 01:21:08,507
Speaker 15: was it received over there? Was it like New Beauty

1618
01:21:08,547 --> 01:21:09,187
Speaker 15: who got to try?

1619
01:21:09,467 --> 01:21:09,507
Speaker 7: No?

1620
01:21:09,947 --> 01:21:13,107
Speaker 2: Well, I think what the bigger conversation was what happens

1621
01:21:13,947 --> 01:21:16,147
Speaker 2: if New Zealand win the group which is obviously a

1622
01:21:16,187 --> 01:21:18,427
Speaker 2: possibility beat Australia in the other two minnots and you

1623
01:21:18,547 --> 01:21:21,267
Speaker 2: finished top. That puts us on a collision course with

1624
01:21:21,467 --> 01:21:26,547
Speaker 2: South Africa in the quarter finals. Would you believe Wow? Yeah, yeah,

1625
01:21:27,107 --> 01:21:28,987
Speaker 2: not great, So we might throw that game. We might

1626
01:21:29,027 --> 01:21:30,307
Speaker 2: throw that game against the Wallabas.

1627
01:21:30,867 --> 01:21:33,547
Speaker 7: Yeah, who knows exactly?

1628
01:21:33,947 --> 01:21:34,387
Speaker 3: Good stuff?

1629
01:21:34,387 --> 01:21:35,867
Speaker 2: All right, make good to talk to you a Derby

1630
01:21:35,907 --> 01:21:38,427
Speaker 2: this afternoon, New Zealand Derby, Auckland c Wellingston, Phoenix. You

1631
01:21:38,467 --> 01:21:42,027
Speaker 2: have any faith in the Knicks to finally get something

1632
01:21:42,067 --> 01:21:42,627
Speaker 2: out of one of these?

1633
01:21:44,347 --> 01:21:48,227
Speaker 15: Not so sure. I mean I think Auckland. Auckland will

1634
01:21:48,467 --> 01:21:51,627
Speaker 15: be filthy about what they came up with against Newcastle

1635
01:21:51,707 --> 01:21:53,427
Speaker 15: last week. I thought the Jets are really good. Actually

1636
01:21:54,147 --> 01:21:56,547
Speaker 15: I can't work out how that game went on past

1637
01:21:56,547 --> 01:21:59,027
Speaker 15: seventy five minutes, but that's by the bye. I think

1638
01:21:59,467 --> 01:22:02,467
Speaker 15: it's more to the point that Auckland will find a

1639
01:22:02,507 --> 01:22:04,547
Speaker 15: way to bounce back that that wasn't then last week.

1640
01:22:04,627 --> 01:22:08,867
Speaker 15: I don't reckon so the mixt I'll go. I'll go

1641
01:22:09,107 --> 01:22:09,987
Speaker 15: soon that one, all right?

1642
01:22:10,067 --> 01:22:12,187
Speaker 2: Nice one mate, Always good to chat. Enjoy Brisbane. Adam

1643
01:22:12,187 --> 01:22:14,667
Speaker 2: Peacock are Australian correspondent six and a half to two.

1644
01:22:15,547 --> 01:22:20,547
Speaker 1: Breaking down the Hail Mary's and the epic fails. Weekend

1645
01:22:20,627 --> 01:22:23,547
Speaker 1: Sport with Jason Vine, News Talk zen.

1646
01:22:23,467 --> 01:22:24,427
Speaker 3: B three to two.

1647
01:22:24,547 --> 01:22:27,507
Speaker 2: After News at two, we focusing on the Derby. Head

1648
01:22:27,547 --> 01:22:31,067
Speaker 2: coaches of Auckland FC, Steve Corica and Wellington Phoenix gian

1649
01:22:31,187 --> 01:22:33,867
Speaker 2: Carlo Eteliano both join us after two.

1650
01:22:34,907 --> 01:22:39,067
Speaker 1: The only plays for the big names, the big issues,

1651
01:22:39,867 --> 01:22:44,747
Speaker 1: the big controversies and the big conversations. It's all on

1652
01:22:44,907 --> 01:22:48,667
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Vin on your home of Sport

1653
01:22:49,147 --> 01:22:49,827
Speaker 1: News Talk.

1654
01:22:49,707 --> 01:22:53,427
Speaker 2: Zed B two o seven. Welcome in or welcome back,

1655
01:22:53,467 --> 01:22:55,427
Speaker 2: as the case may be. This is Weekend Sport until

1656
01:22:55,507 --> 01:22:58,467
Speaker 2: three toime. Beverage takes the mic after three o'clock for

1657
01:22:58,547 --> 01:23:03,267
Speaker 2: the Saturday edition of the Weekend Collective before.

1658
01:23:03,027 --> 01:23:06,787
Speaker 3: We hand it over Football Darby.

1659
01:23:07,987 --> 01:23:11,027
Speaker 2: Second of the season, fifth in history Auckland f C

1660
01:23:11,187 --> 01:23:15,827
Speaker 2: Wellington Phoenix that already has become pretty compulsory viewing and

1661
01:23:15,907 --> 01:23:19,827
Speaker 2: one of the biggest domestic sporting contests in New Zealand.

1662
01:23:20,307 --> 01:23:23,227
Speaker 2: Going to talk to both coaches. Head coach of Auckland FC,

1663
01:23:23,387 --> 01:23:26,547
Speaker 2: Steve Corriker first up and then head coach of Wellington

1664
01:23:26,547 --> 01:23:31,667
Speaker 2: Phoenix Younkeloi Taliano on the show also this hour. Sad

1665
01:23:31,747 --> 01:23:34,507
Speaker 2: news in the cricketing world this week the passing of

1666
01:23:34,627 --> 01:23:37,347
Speaker 2: former England batsman Robin Smith at the age of just

1667
01:23:37,427 --> 01:23:40,347
Speaker 2: sixty two. What a player, by the way, what a player.

1668
01:23:40,747 --> 01:23:42,707
Speaker 2: I remember him being here in the early nineties and

1669
01:23:42,867 --> 01:23:46,947
Speaker 2: just flaying us to all parts of what was Lancaster Park.

1670
01:23:47,027 --> 01:23:49,907
Speaker 2: Then in a One Day International ahead of the nineteen

1671
01:23:49,987 --> 01:23:52,507
Speaker 2: ninety two Cricket World Cup, man he could play. Former

1672
01:23:52,547 --> 01:23:55,387
Speaker 2: New Zealand opener Brian Young established a strong friendship with

1673
01:23:55,507 --> 01:23:58,187
Speaker 2: Robin Smith. He's going to join us to pay tribute

1674
01:23:58,587 --> 01:24:02,427
Speaker 2: and we'll play a sporting chance. Your opportunity to place

1675
01:24:02,467 --> 01:24:04,627
Speaker 2: a one hundred and fifty dollars bonus bet from the

1676
01:24:04,667 --> 01:24:07,307
Speaker 2: tab and collect the winnings if it comes in.

1677
01:24:07,947 --> 01:24:09,507
Speaker 3: We'll do that before three o'clock as well.

1678
01:24:09,587 --> 01:24:11,667
Speaker 2: Keep you up to date with a cricket being played

1679
01:24:11,667 --> 01:24:13,987
Speaker 2: at the moment at Hagley three nineteen for six the

1680
01:24:14,067 --> 01:24:18,787
Speaker 2: West Indies. New Zealand still need those four wickets the

1681
01:24:18,867 --> 01:24:19,467
Speaker 2: West Indies.

1682
01:24:19,627 --> 01:24:20,027
Speaker 7: What do I need?

1683
01:24:20,067 --> 01:24:22,787
Speaker 3: Two hundred and fourteen, two hundred and twelve to twelve

1684
01:24:22,827 --> 01:24:23,227
Speaker 3: to one.

1685
01:24:24,027 --> 01:24:26,787
Speaker 2: So I guess all three results are still theoretically on

1686
01:24:26,867 --> 01:24:29,347
Speaker 2: the table at the Australian Golf Open as well. We'll

1687
01:24:29,387 --> 01:24:32,027
Speaker 2: keep eyes on that and in particular the Keiwez, Daniel

1688
01:24:32,107 --> 01:24:34,827
Speaker 2: Hillier and Ryan Fox started to day six under. Hillyo

1689
01:24:34,867 --> 01:24:37,627
Speaker 2: is through two holes even par Ryan Fox has dropped

1690
01:24:37,627 --> 01:24:39,027
Speaker 2: a shot through two holes, is down.

1691
01:24:38,907 --> 01:24:42,107
Speaker 3: To five under. The leaders are underway as well or

1692
01:24:42,107 --> 01:24:42,587
Speaker 3: the Yeah.

1693
01:24:42,587 --> 01:24:47,347
Speaker 2: The two leaders are Rasmus near Guard Peterson the Norwegian

1694
01:24:47,947 --> 01:24:51,227
Speaker 2: and Daniel Rodriguez from Portugal, both at nine under. Both

1695
01:24:51,507 --> 01:24:53,187
Speaker 2: have pared their opening holes, so we'll keep.

1696
01:24:53,107 --> 01:24:55,027
Speaker 3: You up to date with that as well.

1697
01:24:55,267 --> 01:24:57,947
Speaker 2: But as we tick towards nine past two, as we

1698
01:24:58,067 --> 01:25:00,787
Speaker 2: always do at around about this time on weekend sport,

1699
01:25:00,827 --> 01:25:02,147
Speaker 2: it's time to get you up to date with some

1700
01:25:02,227 --> 01:25:04,507
Speaker 2: of the stuff that you may well have missed over

1701
01:25:04,547 --> 01:25:08,707
Speaker 2: the last little while of sporting action in the last

1702
01:25:08,747 --> 01:25:10,547
Speaker 2: little while, in case you missed it.

1703
01:25:10,827 --> 01:25:12,227
Speaker 3: And there's that music.

1704
01:25:12,307 --> 01:25:12,667
Speaker 1: There it is.

1705
01:25:13,627 --> 01:25:19,187
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't want to start without it. There it is,

1706
01:25:19,227 --> 01:25:19,627
Speaker 3: and here we go.

1707
01:25:19,707 --> 01:25:22,507
Speaker 2: The Adelaie thirty sixers have continued their hot streak in

1708
01:25:22,587 --> 01:25:26,867
Speaker 2: the Australian Basketball League a convincing win over Brisbane last

1709
01:25:26,947 --> 01:25:28,387
Speaker 2: night to stay second on the ladder.

1710
01:25:28,547 --> 01:25:30,827
Speaker 3: But it's a big win for the Adelaide thirty six

1711
01:25:30,867 --> 01:25:32,507
Speaker 3: as they win five games.

1712
01:25:32,347 --> 01:25:34,827
Speaker 16: In a row for the first time in eight years,

1713
01:25:35,187 --> 01:25:38,147
Speaker 16: and they do it to the tube a twenty five

1714
01:25:38,347 --> 01:25:41,787
Speaker 16: points full time in Adelaide, it's for thirty six is

1715
01:25:41,947 --> 01:25:43,707
Speaker 16: nineties Brisbane sixty five.

1716
01:25:44,107 --> 01:25:46,547
Speaker 2: Staying on that side of the Tasman Perth Glory have

1717
01:25:46,707 --> 01:25:49,507
Speaker 2: won their third straight A League football match to leap

1718
01:25:49,587 --> 01:25:52,307
Speaker 2: to fourth on the ladder. I won neil victory over

1719
01:25:52,427 --> 01:25:54,587
Speaker 2: Western Sydney in Western Australia.

1720
01:25:54,707 --> 01:25:58,107
Speaker 17: Ball continues to slide through the penalty area. Kacharski and

1721
01:26:00,067 --> 01:26:06,187
Speaker 17: sat Desmotowski. What for his glory, young stuff? What is

1722
01:26:06,707 --> 01:26:11,387
Speaker 17: Test seven? He is off aginning league.

1723
01:26:11,587 --> 01:26:12,667
Speaker 3: To the Ashes.

1724
01:26:12,667 --> 01:26:15,387
Speaker 2: Australia have a forty four run lead after day two

1725
01:26:15,427 --> 01:26:17,067
Speaker 2: of the second Test at the Gabber.

1726
01:26:17,307 --> 01:26:19,227
Speaker 3: They are three hundred and seventy eight for six.

1727
01:26:19,707 --> 01:26:22,667
Speaker 2: Opener Jake weather All scoring has made in Test fifty

1728
01:26:22,747 --> 01:26:24,427
Speaker 2: in just his second Test match.

1729
01:26:26,587 --> 01:26:32,787
Speaker 3: Click away fifty for take weather All and what a

1730
01:26:32,867 --> 01:26:36,627
Speaker 3: time to do it as well. We'll enjoy that. Take

1731
01:26:36,667 --> 01:26:37,987
Speaker 3: a deep breath, raise the fat.

1732
01:26:39,627 --> 01:26:41,947
Speaker 2: Australia were two ninety one for three at one stage,

1733
01:26:42,027 --> 01:26:44,427
Speaker 2: but while every batsman has scored double figures, weather All

1734
01:26:44,507 --> 01:26:46,387
Speaker 2: seventy two, the top score in the inning so far.

1735
01:26:46,707 --> 01:26:49,427
Speaker 2: Day three underway at five o'clock and as mentioned, Ryan

1736
01:26:49,507 --> 01:26:51,787
Speaker 2: Fox and Daniel Hilly are leading the Kiwi charge at

1737
01:26:51,827 --> 01:26:54,347
Speaker 2: the halfway mark of the Australian Golf Open in Melbourne.

1738
01:26:54,707 --> 01:26:57,267
Speaker 2: Both tied for seventh at six under the card after

1739
01:26:57,387 --> 01:26:59,187
Speaker 2: two rounds, three back from the lead.

1740
01:26:59,267 --> 01:26:59,587
Speaker 3: MeeTime.

1741
01:26:59,587 --> 01:27:03,427
Speaker 2: Australian minwoo Lee provided a highlight on day two with

1742
01:27:03,547 --> 01:27:06,467
Speaker 2: his second shot on the par four tenth Hule.

1743
01:27:06,627 --> 01:27:08,827
Speaker 11: Kenny conjure ups and magic on this back nine.

1744
01:27:09,307 --> 01:27:11,667
Speaker 12: Our beautiful looking shot, this one straight at it.

1745
01:27:11,747 --> 01:27:17,307
Speaker 11: This will be really close. You're not wrong.

1746
01:27:19,147 --> 01:27:22,387
Speaker 17: Now he is officially cooking Memori Lee.

1747
01:27:22,787 --> 01:27:26,267
Speaker 3: I ran off for tea and then night into the hole.

1748
01:27:26,547 --> 01:27:28,947
Speaker 1: At ten weekend sport.

1749
01:27:29,747 --> 01:27:30,667
Speaker 3: On News Talk to b.

1750
01:27:30,827 --> 01:27:34,067
Speaker 2: It is Derby Day at go Media Stadium, the second

1751
01:27:34,107 --> 01:27:35,227
Speaker 2: one this season.

1752
01:27:36,627 --> 01:27:40,947
Speaker 18: As Derby domination continues.

1753
01:27:41,947 --> 01:27:44,827
Speaker 3: But I dare you to have imagined this.

1754
01:27:46,667 --> 01:27:52,267
Speaker 18: I challenge you to find fitter sporting theater then this.

1755
01:27:52,787 --> 01:27:55,747
Speaker 2: It was quite the game back in round three, Auckland

1756
01:27:55,867 --> 01:27:57,947
Speaker 2: FC winning at two to one, but down to nine

1757
01:27:58,067 --> 01:28:01,427
Speaker 2: men after Dan Hall and Logan Rogerson were both scen off.

1758
01:28:02,027 --> 01:28:04,587
Speaker 2: It is the second derby of the season this afternoon

1759
01:28:04,627 --> 01:28:09,547
Speaker 2: five o'clock kickoff at Go Medius in Penrose, Auckland. Auckland

1760
01:28:09,667 --> 01:28:12,227
Speaker 2: FC head coach Steve Carriker joined U. Steve, thanks for

1761
01:28:12,267 --> 01:28:13,707
Speaker 2: taking the time for a chat. I want to ask

1762
01:28:13,747 --> 01:28:16,827
Speaker 2: you about the way you approach these derbies. First of all,

1763
01:28:16,947 --> 01:28:20,667
Speaker 2: you have always as a head coach embraced these games

1764
01:28:20,747 --> 01:28:23,587
Speaker 2: and the occasions that they are. Some coaches say, oh, look,

1765
01:28:23,627 --> 01:28:25,827
Speaker 2: it's just another game. They're all worth three points, it's

1766
01:28:26,147 --> 01:28:29,067
Speaker 2: no different from playing and other opponents. But you always

1767
01:28:29,107 --> 01:28:32,467
Speaker 2: talk about how big these derbies are for fans and

1768
01:28:32,587 --> 01:28:34,107
Speaker 2: for players, and I guess the coaches as well.

1769
01:28:34,147 --> 01:28:36,187
Speaker 3: Why do you take that view?

1770
01:28:37,067 --> 01:28:39,627
Speaker 19: Well, they're all worth three points, but the derbies are

1771
01:28:39,667 --> 01:28:41,587
Speaker 19: something special, I think, and you have to treat them

1772
01:28:41,627 --> 01:28:45,707
Speaker 19: that way. You know, it's the first time, well second

1773
01:28:45,827 --> 01:28:47,867
Speaker 19: year in a row now that there's been a Derby

1774
01:28:47,907 --> 01:28:51,107
Speaker 19: in New Zealand. So and you saw the first three

1775
01:28:51,227 --> 01:28:53,587
Speaker 19: were amazing, even the last one that we won with

1776
01:28:53,747 --> 01:28:56,747
Speaker 19: nine men. They always bring something special and I think

1777
01:28:56,987 --> 01:29:00,747
Speaker 19: Derby's are meant to be like that. The fans love them,

1778
01:29:02,547 --> 01:29:05,267
Speaker 19: you know. Today obviously there's going to be a hopefully

1779
01:29:05,307 --> 01:29:09,627
Speaker 19: a full house in our Go Media Stadium, which obviously

1780
01:29:09,707 --> 01:29:12,907
Speaker 19: they bring the noise and bring the atmosphere and that's

1781
01:29:12,947 --> 01:29:14,867
Speaker 19: what that's what football's about as well.

1782
01:29:15,347 --> 01:29:18,067
Speaker 2: Did you all love of these big occasions get sort

1783
01:29:18,107 --> 01:29:20,707
Speaker 2: of fostered by your time as boss of Sydney FC,

1784
01:29:20,827 --> 01:29:23,987
Speaker 2: when you had those those derbies against Western Sydney two

1785
01:29:24,027 --> 01:29:26,427
Speaker 2: or three times a year and you embraced those occasions

1786
01:29:26,427 --> 01:29:26,787
Speaker 2: as well.

1787
01:29:27,387 --> 01:29:28,627
Speaker 10: Yeah, definitely we do.

1788
01:29:29,827 --> 01:29:33,067
Speaker 19: You know, there are some amazing atmospheres as well in

1789
01:29:33,387 --> 01:29:36,187
Speaker 19: the Sydney Derby even I think when I was an

1790
01:29:36,187 --> 01:29:39,507
Speaker 19: assistant coach under Graham Arnold we had sixty five thoers

1791
01:29:39,547 --> 01:29:44,107
Speaker 19: and I think at Anz Stadium for a domestic derby,

1792
01:29:44,347 --> 01:29:48,587
Speaker 19: So you know, that's pretty special, I think, you know,

1793
01:29:48,707 --> 01:29:51,907
Speaker 19: and you can just feel the passion, the noise and

1794
01:29:52,347 --> 01:29:55,827
Speaker 19: obviously the Kiwi Derby is going down that track. It's

1795
01:29:55,867 --> 01:30:00,227
Speaker 19: obviously you know, obviously at the moment we're fort nila up.

1796
01:30:00,347 --> 01:30:04,307
Speaker 19: But you know, you can't take you can't rest on

1797
01:30:04,787 --> 01:30:07,827
Speaker 19: what's happened in the past. It's it's if game. Football

1798
01:30:07,947 --> 01:30:10,987
Speaker 19: is a strange game. You can play your best football

1799
01:30:11,027 --> 01:30:11,907
Speaker 19: and still lose.

1800
01:30:11,827 --> 01:30:14,067
Speaker 2: So you have to be right on your on the

1801
01:30:14,147 --> 01:30:16,987
Speaker 2: game and your passion for these games and your attitude

1802
01:30:17,027 --> 01:30:20,587
Speaker 2: towards them is clearly permeated into your players as well.

1803
01:30:20,667 --> 01:30:23,307
Speaker 2: The way they've talked about these games during the week,

1804
01:30:23,507 --> 01:30:26,147
Speaker 2: Do you have to step in any way control their

1805
01:30:26,187 --> 01:30:29,187
Speaker 2: emotions and weeks like this and going into games like these,

1806
01:30:31,027 --> 01:30:32,107
Speaker 2: you definitely.

1807
01:30:31,827 --> 01:30:34,907
Speaker 19: Can tell when it's Derby week. You know, they get

1808
01:30:35,227 --> 01:30:38,787
Speaker 19: very excited. Obviously they know it's coming. Trying not to

1809
01:30:39,027 --> 01:30:42,347
Speaker 19: treat every game on his laurels and that Derby's obviously

1810
01:30:42,507 --> 01:30:44,667
Speaker 19: something different, and I think that's the way we try

1811
01:30:44,707 --> 01:30:49,107
Speaker 19: and treat them. You know, it's sometimes you have to

1812
01:30:49,347 --> 01:30:50,347
Speaker 19: calm them down a little bit.

1813
01:30:50,387 --> 01:30:51,027
Speaker 10: You don't want to.

1814
01:30:51,467 --> 01:30:54,467
Speaker 19: Overplay the game too much in your head during the week.

1815
01:30:54,507 --> 01:30:58,667
Speaker 19: You want to stay obviously just focused. And during the

1816
01:30:58,707 --> 01:31:00,467
Speaker 19: week we try and keep it must the same to

1817
01:31:00,627 --> 01:31:03,867
Speaker 19: make sure that you know, they do continue doing what

1818
01:31:03,987 --> 01:31:08,387
Speaker 19: they do normally in games, but then when you get

1819
01:31:08,427 --> 01:31:12,427
Speaker 19: to match day, you know it's different. So, yeah, it's

1820
01:31:12,467 --> 01:31:16,067
Speaker 19: been working for us, and hopefully we continue to keep winning.

1821
01:31:16,187 --> 01:31:20,867
Speaker 19: Obviously winning is nice, never nice to lose one, but

1822
01:31:21,427 --> 01:31:22,787
Speaker 19: hopefully that won't happen today.

1823
01:31:23,147 --> 01:31:24,787
Speaker 2: You come into this game off the back of a

1824
01:31:24,907 --> 01:31:27,987
Speaker 2: rare defeat. Do you have to filter last week through

1825
01:31:28,027 --> 01:31:30,587
Speaker 2: the fact that for the last twenty minutes or so,

1826
01:31:30,707 --> 01:31:32,347
Speaker 2: the conditions were basically unplayable.

1827
01:31:34,387 --> 01:31:37,467
Speaker 19: There's a lot of positives out of last week. We

1828
01:31:37,587 --> 01:31:41,587
Speaker 19: created a lot of chances. Probably a negative part of

1829
01:31:41,707 --> 01:31:44,787
Speaker 19: that is we didn't punish them when we had the opportunity.

1830
01:31:44,907 --> 01:31:48,787
Speaker 19: And then obviously the conditions were tough for both teams

1831
01:31:49,227 --> 01:31:51,027
Speaker 19: come the end of the game, which they had the

1832
01:31:51,147 --> 01:31:53,027
Speaker 19: lead already by then, so it's made it a little

1833
01:31:53,027 --> 01:31:56,987
Speaker 19: bit more difficult for us. But I've also spoke about

1834
01:31:57,227 --> 01:32:00,027
Speaker 19: you know, we're conceding. We can see the two goals

1835
01:32:00,107 --> 01:32:02,067
Speaker 19: last week and they were quite sloppy goals.

1836
01:32:02,187 --> 01:32:06,147
Speaker 10: So it's about working hard, keeping clean sheets this week

1837
01:32:06,387 --> 01:32:07,507
Speaker 10: and we see.

1838
01:32:07,347 --> 01:32:07,667
Speaker 7: How we go.

1839
01:32:08,547 --> 01:32:12,347
Speaker 3: Are you missing Hierarchi Sarkis on field leadership.

1840
01:32:13,507 --> 01:32:16,467
Speaker 19: Well, he doesn't talk much Hiroki, but you know he

1841
01:32:16,707 --> 01:32:19,507
Speaker 19: does lead by example on the pitch, and you know,

1842
01:32:19,667 --> 01:32:21,867
Speaker 19: as much as Kellen Elliots I think has done it

1843
01:32:21,947 --> 01:32:24,867
Speaker 19: has done a great job for us. You know, I

1844
01:32:24,947 --> 01:32:28,867
Speaker 19: think the boys know when Hiroki's not playing, so he

1845
01:32:28,987 --> 01:32:31,387
Speaker 19: sort of calms the team a little bit just by

1846
01:32:31,427 --> 01:32:36,667
Speaker 19: his presence and his experience. So you know, obviously we'll

1847
01:32:36,667 --> 01:32:39,187
Speaker 19: have him back into the squad next week, but right

1848
01:32:39,227 --> 01:32:41,707
Speaker 19: now we don't have him today, and you know, Kellen's

1849
01:32:41,707 --> 01:32:43,587
Speaker 19: been doing a great job for us, so you know,

1850
01:32:43,707 --> 01:32:46,627
Speaker 19: if he remains focused Kellen and he does what he's

1851
01:32:46,667 --> 01:32:48,667
Speaker 19: been doing in the last couple of weeks, that's all

1852
01:32:48,707 --> 01:32:49,187
Speaker 19: we can ask.

1853
01:32:49,707 --> 01:32:52,507
Speaker 2: Was there any temptation to try and have Hiroki involved

1854
01:32:52,707 --> 01:32:53,507
Speaker 2: in this one today?

1855
01:32:54,787 --> 01:32:55,547
Speaker 10: No, none at all.

1856
01:32:55,707 --> 01:32:58,587
Speaker 19: I think we you know, we knew six weeks ago

1857
01:32:58,867 --> 01:33:02,387
Speaker 19: this is the game he's going to come back. Hamstrings

1858
01:33:02,387 --> 01:33:05,267
Speaker 19: are quite quite tough if you try and force them back.

1859
01:33:05,747 --> 01:33:08,107
Speaker 19: You know, even a couple of days earlier, a week early,

1860
01:33:08,507 --> 01:33:11,067
Speaker 19: you know you could be facing another six to twelve

1861
01:33:11,107 --> 01:33:11,627
Speaker 19: weeks out.

1862
01:33:11,747 --> 01:33:12,987
Speaker 10: So we didn't want to risk that.

1863
01:33:13,547 --> 01:33:17,187
Speaker 19: Obviously, Darby's are important, but I think it's important that

1864
01:33:17,307 --> 01:33:20,907
Speaker 19: we get Hierarchie back fully fit and continues for the

1865
01:33:20,947 --> 01:33:23,227
Speaker 19: rest of the season as much as, you know, as

1866
01:33:23,547 --> 01:33:25,787
Speaker 19: as quickly as possible after today.

1867
01:33:26,227 --> 01:33:29,107
Speaker 3: What about Gijiomo Mai. We saw him this last week.

1868
01:33:29,187 --> 01:33:31,667
Speaker 2: He'd played the first five games of the season, but

1869
01:33:32,587 --> 01:33:34,467
Speaker 2: it felt as though looked as though, and you'll be

1870
01:33:34,507 --> 01:33:35,907
Speaker 2: able to confirm this, that he was he wasn't one

1871
01:33:35,947 --> 01:33:36,387
Speaker 2: hundred percent.

1872
01:33:36,427 --> 01:33:37,987
Speaker 3: He picked up another knock. I know last week.

1873
01:33:38,267 --> 01:33:41,147
Speaker 2: What's his likely contribution this afternoon going to be he's

1874
01:33:41,147 --> 01:33:42,387
Speaker 2: in the mesh day squad presumably.

1875
01:33:43,307 --> 01:33:45,667
Speaker 19: Yeah, he sees back in. He's trained the last couple

1876
01:33:45,707 --> 01:33:47,267
Speaker 19: of the last three days.

1877
01:33:47,467 --> 01:33:49,107
Speaker 7: So yeah.

1878
01:33:49,347 --> 01:33:53,107
Speaker 10: Listen, he had an operation on his knee in pre season.

1879
01:33:55,227 --> 01:33:58,147
Speaker 19: You know, obviously desperate to get back for the start

1880
01:33:58,187 --> 01:34:00,667
Speaker 19: of the season, so you know he was back for that,

1881
01:34:00,867 --> 01:34:02,227
Speaker 19: not fully fit as well.

1882
01:34:02,467 --> 01:34:03,707
Speaker 10: Once he did come back.

1883
01:34:04,227 --> 01:34:07,587
Speaker 19: Physically, it's taken him a little bit of time and

1884
01:34:07,627 --> 01:34:10,587
Speaker 19: obviously still feeling a little bit of that knees it

1885
01:34:10,587 --> 01:34:11,187
Speaker 19: will swollen.

1886
01:34:11,307 --> 01:34:13,867
Speaker 10: He got he got it drained last week and had some.

1887
01:34:15,387 --> 01:34:18,707
Speaker 19: Some of the stuff, so you know, hopefully he said

1888
01:34:18,707 --> 01:34:20,507
Speaker 19: it's much better this week, but you know, I think

1889
01:34:20,547 --> 01:34:22,267
Speaker 19: it's gonna be ongoing for a little bit longer.

1890
01:34:22,427 --> 01:34:25,627
Speaker 10: So but it's good to have him back into the squad.

1891
01:34:25,747 --> 01:34:28,627
Speaker 19: And you know, he's a quality player and he did

1892
01:34:28,747 --> 01:34:30,947
Speaker 19: so well for us last year and we just need

1893
01:34:30,987 --> 01:34:32,867
Speaker 19: to get him back to what he was doing last

1894
01:34:33,147 --> 01:34:33,707
Speaker 19: last season.

1895
01:34:34,347 --> 01:34:36,907
Speaker 2: Both of your goals in the first derby the season

1896
01:34:37,027 --> 01:34:40,627
Speaker 2: came from defeating the Phoenix. As much talked about high line,

1897
01:34:41,227 --> 01:34:43,507
Speaker 2: how much of your attacking focus has has been on

1898
01:34:43,587 --> 01:34:45,707
Speaker 2: that again, or do you expect to have to use

1899
01:34:46,267 --> 01:34:47,587
Speaker 2: different strategies today?

1900
01:34:49,507 --> 01:34:52,267
Speaker 19: Well, I think, you know, definitely that plays the part

1901
01:34:52,307 --> 01:34:55,547
Speaker 19: of it, because they are playing still playing the high line,

1902
01:34:55,627 --> 01:34:58,867
Speaker 19: so obviously that's something we've spoken about and worked on

1903
01:34:59,747 --> 01:35:03,627
Speaker 19: today and for today's game. And but there's there's obviously

1904
01:35:03,707 --> 01:35:07,347
Speaker 19: other ways as well to to beat them, and you know,

1905
01:35:07,507 --> 01:35:10,387
Speaker 19: we can't be just one dimensional. We have to have

1906
01:35:10,467 --> 01:35:13,307
Speaker 19: other options as well, and you know we've looked at

1907
01:35:13,347 --> 01:35:17,187
Speaker 19: that also, and yeah, so we'll go from there and

1908
01:35:17,627 --> 01:35:19,387
Speaker 19: hopefully it all pans out nicely.

1909
01:35:19,667 --> 01:35:21,467
Speaker 3: And I know you're only worrying about today, but after

1910
01:35:21,587 --> 01:35:24,987
Speaker 3: this game, five or of your next six are away

1911
01:35:25,067 --> 01:35:29,467
Speaker 3: from home, and how much does your prep and approach change,

1912
01:35:29,827 --> 01:35:33,067
Speaker 3: Steve in a typical week with so much travel to

1913
01:35:33,187 --> 01:35:34,187
Speaker 3: be factored into it all.

1914
01:35:35,107 --> 01:35:39,707
Speaker 19: Yeah, you know, we've had three home games, which are

1915
01:35:39,787 --> 01:35:42,387
Speaker 19: going to be great, obviously great, but then you've got

1916
01:35:42,467 --> 01:35:44,907
Speaker 19: to travel. So we got three in a row and

1917
01:35:45,067 --> 01:35:46,787
Speaker 19: then I think one at home and then I think

1918
01:35:46,827 --> 01:35:50,067
Speaker 19: another two or three away. So it's going to be difficult,

1919
01:35:50,107 --> 01:35:53,587
Speaker 19: there's no doubt about that. But I think last year

1920
01:35:53,787 --> 01:35:56,827
Speaker 19: we showed we were just as good away from home.

1921
01:35:56,907 --> 01:35:58,187
Speaker 10: As at home, so.

1922
01:35:59,747 --> 01:36:01,907
Speaker 19: I'm hoping it's going to be much the same this season.

1923
01:36:02,027 --> 01:36:05,547
Speaker 19: But you know, the travel does take its toll on players,

1924
01:36:06,747 --> 01:36:09,787
Speaker 19: you know, physically. Obviously, we try and do the best

1925
01:36:09,867 --> 01:36:12,427
Speaker 19: we can to make sure that they recover properly and

1926
01:36:13,347 --> 01:36:16,747
Speaker 19: give them days off so they can freshen up. But yeah,

1927
01:36:17,227 --> 01:36:20,467
Speaker 19: I'm actually looking forward to obviously having a few games

1928
01:36:20,507 --> 01:36:22,947
Speaker 19: away from home as well well.

1929
01:36:23,067 --> 01:36:25,227
Speaker 2: Looking forward to a big occasion to go Media Stadium

1930
01:36:25,227 --> 01:36:27,147
Speaker 2: this afternoon. In the first instance. Thanks for chatting to

1931
01:36:27,267 --> 01:36:28,747
Speaker 2: us on match day. Steve, all the best today.

1932
01:36:29,347 --> 01:36:30,987
Speaker 10: Thanks, thank you, Ban, Thank you mate.

1933
01:36:31,027 --> 01:36:34,587
Speaker 2: That is Steve Coriker, head coach of Auckland FC, Head

1934
01:36:34,627 --> 01:36:37,627
Speaker 2: coach of Wellington Phoenix. Jim Calo Italiana has arrived. He's

1935
01:36:37,627 --> 01:36:40,707
Speaker 2: live and studio very very shortly, just updating you on

1936
01:36:40,827 --> 01:36:44,107
Speaker 2: some live sport at the Australian Golf Open. Daniel Hillier

1937
01:36:44,187 --> 01:36:47,587
Speaker 2: and Ryan Fox underway in their third rounds, having started

1938
01:36:47,747 --> 01:36:51,907
Speaker 2: six under the card. Daniel Hillia has part of the

1939
01:36:51,947 --> 01:36:54,267
Speaker 2: first three holes to remain at six under. Ryan Fox

1940
01:36:54,387 --> 01:36:56,307
Speaker 2: is bogie one of the first two. He is five

1941
01:36:56,427 --> 01:37:00,307
Speaker 2: under now through two holes in his third round. At

1942
01:37:00,307 --> 01:37:02,867
Speaker 2: the top of the leaderboard. The two overnight leaders are

1943
01:37:02,907 --> 01:37:05,107
Speaker 2: both parted the opening hole to stay at nine under.

1944
01:37:05,747 --> 01:37:10,307
Speaker 2: Rasmus Neerguard Peterson and Daniel Rodriguez. And if I just

1945
01:37:10,387 --> 01:37:12,827
Speaker 2: filter this through country, if you just bear with me,

1946
01:37:13,307 --> 01:37:16,587
Speaker 2: I can bring you the scores of the other New

1947
01:37:16,667 --> 01:37:17,547
Speaker 2: Zealanders in the field.

1948
01:37:17,587 --> 01:37:18,307
Speaker 3: There are three of them.

1949
01:37:18,387 --> 01:37:21,707
Speaker 2: Nick Vogue, as he's done pretty well today's one under

1950
01:37:21,707 --> 01:37:23,747
Speaker 2: through fifteen holes to move to two under for the

1951
01:37:23,787 --> 01:37:24,947
Speaker 2: tournament type for thirty fourth.

1952
01:37:25,267 --> 01:37:27,067
Speaker 3: Tyler Hodge is even part.

1953
01:37:26,947 --> 01:37:29,547
Speaker 2: Through eleven holes, also to under also tie for thirty fourth,

1954
01:37:30,027 --> 01:37:33,547
Speaker 2: and Kerry Mountcastle even path through seventeen holes in his

1955
01:37:33,627 --> 01:37:37,107
Speaker 2: third rounds he is in fact even part of the

1956
01:37:37,187 --> 01:37:40,187
Speaker 2: tournament as well, in a tie for fifty sixth and

1957
01:37:40,387 --> 01:37:43,467
Speaker 2: at Hagley Oval. The grind goes on for New Zealand

1958
01:37:43,507 --> 01:37:45,387
Speaker 2: as they look for these final four wickets the West

1959
01:37:45,427 --> 01:37:47,627
Speaker 2: and these three hundred and thirty five for six. They

1960
01:37:47,667 --> 01:37:49,787
Speaker 2: need one hundred and ninety six runs to win the Tests.

1961
01:37:50,187 --> 01:37:52,987
Speaker 2: New Zealand need four wickets. And there are a couple

1962
01:37:52,987 --> 01:37:56,107
Speaker 2: of bowlers down Matt Henry not sighted today, Nathan Smith

1963
01:37:56,147 --> 01:37:59,467
Speaker 2: with a side strain. So it's folks Duffy Bracewell and

1964
01:37:59,587 --> 01:38:03,267
Speaker 2: Ravendra Michael Braceball's bowling is thirty fifth over of the innings.

1965
01:38:03,787 --> 01:38:05,587
Speaker 2: I haven't got the stats in front of me, but

1966
01:38:05,627 --> 01:38:07,227
Speaker 2: i'd imagine that to be as many as he's bold

1967
01:38:07,267 --> 01:38:10,307
Speaker 2: in any Test Inning's Michael Bracewell. He has picked up

1968
01:38:10,307 --> 01:38:13,507
Speaker 2: the wicket. He picked up a wicket yesterday. Justin Greeves

1969
01:38:13,547 --> 01:38:15,347
Speaker 2: has brought up one hundred hundred and sixteen not out.

1970
01:38:15,427 --> 01:38:18,707
Speaker 2: Keemar Roach is there on thirty three point thirty five

1971
01:38:18,787 --> 01:38:21,507
Speaker 2: for six the Western These just in terms of how

1972
01:38:21,587 --> 01:38:23,787
Speaker 2: long there is to go. We're only in the second session.

1973
01:38:23,827 --> 01:38:27,147
Speaker 2: Of course, still over fifty overs left for New Zealand

1974
01:38:27,187 --> 01:38:29,547
Speaker 2: to pick up these four wickets today, so we'll keep

1975
01:38:29,587 --> 01:38:32,107
Speaker 2: eyes on that for you. Two twenty two after this

1976
01:38:32,347 --> 01:38:34,547
Speaker 2: Jihn Carlo Atelliano, Wellington Phoenix head coach.

1977
01:38:35,347 --> 01:38:38,707
Speaker 1: It's more than just a game weekends for it. With

1978
01:38:38,907 --> 01:38:42,947
Speaker 1: Jason Vine and TJ. Garnomes, New Zealand's most trusted home

1979
01:38:43,027 --> 01:38:44,307
Speaker 1: builder news Dogs, they'd be.

1980
01:38:44,587 --> 01:38:47,027
Speaker 2: Two twenty five. Corbyn just told me that we've dropped

1981
01:38:47,027 --> 01:38:49,707
Speaker 2: a catch. I looked up and saw the replay. Difficult,

1982
01:38:50,267 --> 01:38:53,427
Speaker 2: but they say at this level you should be taking them.

1983
01:38:53,667 --> 01:38:56,707
Speaker 2: So a life for one of the West Indies Batsmen,

1984
01:38:56,787 --> 01:39:00,307
Speaker 2: they still six down. You can hear commentary incidentally via

1985
01:39:00,387 --> 01:39:03,027
Speaker 2: the Alternative commentary collective on iHeart. If you want to

1986
01:39:03,067 --> 01:39:05,667
Speaker 2: follow along, we'd love it if you'd stay with us.

1987
01:39:05,827 --> 01:39:08,107
Speaker 2: But if you want to listen to the cricket, the

1988
01:39:08,187 --> 01:39:13,107
Speaker 2: acc are your go to on iHeartRadio two twenty six.

1989
01:39:13,227 --> 01:39:16,027
Speaker 2: Back to the derby Aukland FC Wellington Phoenix five o'clock

1990
01:39:16,067 --> 01:39:19,227
Speaker 2: this afternoon. The Phoenix bring some momentum into this one.

1991
01:39:22,267 --> 01:39:26,907
Speaker 18: In the Wellington Phoenix, they climbed from their recent frunt

1992
01:39:27,827 --> 01:39:33,027
Speaker 18: to beat one of the competition's form sites and stringboard

1993
01:39:33,107 --> 01:39:36,787
Speaker 18: themselves into next weekend's derby es.

1994
01:39:36,867 --> 01:39:40,707
Speaker 2: Indeed, Wellington Phoenix boss Jian Carlo Italiana has popped into

1995
01:39:41,227 --> 01:39:42,947
Speaker 2: the studio ahead of this one. Nice to see you, mate,

1996
01:39:42,947 --> 01:39:45,787
Speaker 2: Thanks for taking the time. You come into today off

1997
01:39:45,867 --> 01:39:48,187
Speaker 2: the back of Ireck and your best performance of the

1998
01:39:48,227 --> 01:39:51,627
Speaker 2: season beating Adelaide two one a week ago at Sky Stadium.

1999
01:39:51,627 --> 01:39:54,547
Speaker 2: How much confidence, how much belief, how much momentum does

2000
01:39:54,667 --> 01:39:56,267
Speaker 2: that give you heading into today?

2001
01:39:57,547 --> 01:40:00,547
Speaker 20: I think it was important. I think I said this

2002
01:40:00,707 --> 01:40:06,107
Speaker 20: yesterday in my interview post training interview that I didn't

2003
01:40:06,107 --> 01:40:08,147
Speaker 20: want to go into this game. You know, with three

2004
01:40:08,747 --> 01:40:10,747
Speaker 20: on the trot, losing through on the trot. I don't

2005
01:40:10,747 --> 01:40:15,027
Speaker 20: think the team deserves it first and foremost because I

2006
01:40:15,067 --> 01:40:18,347
Speaker 20: think that the form has been pretty good, probably maybe

2007
01:40:18,707 --> 01:40:21,187
Speaker 20: one half of football against MacArthur where we went out

2008
01:40:21,347 --> 01:40:25,387
Speaker 20: at our best. But yeah, I felt as though last

2009
01:40:25,427 --> 01:40:27,907
Speaker 20: week was a good step in the right direction. But

2010
01:40:28,347 --> 01:40:29,427
Speaker 20: again doesn't mean anything.

2011
01:40:29,987 --> 01:40:31,827
Speaker 3: I just said then, the best performance of the season.

2012
01:40:31,867 --> 01:40:33,467
Speaker 3: That's through my eyes. What about yours? Do you think

2013
01:40:33,507 --> 01:40:36,107
Speaker 3: it was your best performance of the season so far?

2014
01:40:38,027 --> 01:40:41,027
Speaker 20: Are we including friendly matches? I think just a league match, yeah,

2015
01:40:41,107 --> 01:40:41,827
Speaker 20: just a league matches.

2016
01:40:41,907 --> 01:40:42,067
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2017
01:40:42,067 --> 01:40:44,587
Speaker 20: I think it was the first time that we've put

2018
01:40:44,667 --> 01:40:47,747
Speaker 20: more than seventy minutes of the stole together and the

2019
01:40:47,787 --> 01:40:50,307
Speaker 20: way we want to play, and that's also from talking

2020
01:40:50,347 --> 01:40:54,107
Speaker 20: from a defensive perspective. One thing we didn't cater for

2021
01:40:54,347 --> 01:40:57,147
Speaker 20: last week and we did a little bit on the run,

2022
01:40:57,427 --> 01:40:59,267
Speaker 20: was we went more to a mid block when the

2023
01:40:59,307 --> 01:41:01,467
Speaker 20: subs came on because we felt the press kind of

2024
01:41:02,467 --> 01:41:04,907
Speaker 20: not dropped off, but just the quality of the press

2025
01:41:05,307 --> 01:41:08,987
Speaker 20: wasn't what we had for the first seventy But then

2026
01:41:08,987 --> 01:41:10,707
Speaker 20: the boys adapted actually very very well.

2027
01:41:10,747 --> 01:41:11,627
Speaker 7: So I was very happy with.

2028
01:41:11,667 --> 01:41:15,747
Speaker 20: That response from the group. I maybe one or too

2029
01:41:15,787 --> 01:41:20,427
Speaker 20: many changes that influence the shape, but yeah, last week

2030
01:41:20,587 --> 01:41:22,347
Speaker 20: was probably the best overall.

2031
01:41:22,707 --> 01:41:24,467
Speaker 3: You pick up on a really interesting point. They're about

2032
01:41:24,507 --> 01:41:26,827
Speaker 3: the changes that you make during a game, and I know,

2033
01:41:26,947 --> 01:41:29,747
Speaker 3: you know you have to adapt to the match situation,

2034
01:41:29,987 --> 01:41:34,187
Speaker 3: but how challenging a part of football management is that

2035
01:41:34,347 --> 01:41:38,067
Speaker 3: knowing who to inject, when to inject, and also who

2036
01:41:38,147 --> 01:41:38,667
Speaker 3: to take off.

2037
01:41:39,267 --> 01:41:41,587
Speaker 20: Yeah, I think this is probably the most crucial part

2038
01:41:41,627 --> 01:41:45,467
Speaker 20: of game day coaching. I think outside of that, obviously,

2039
01:41:45,587 --> 01:41:47,827
Speaker 20: what you do during the week is probably the most

2040
01:41:47,867 --> 01:41:50,547
Speaker 20: important thing that influences the game overall.

2041
01:41:50,707 --> 01:41:51,907
Speaker 10: But in game.

2042
01:41:51,787 --> 01:41:55,347
Speaker 20: Management, the subs and how you change tactics in the

2043
01:41:55,387 --> 01:41:58,147
Speaker 20: game is probably the second most important thing. I think

2044
01:41:58,227 --> 01:42:01,387
Speaker 20: that if you look at my first year in charge,

2045
01:42:01,467 --> 01:42:04,147
Speaker 20: when I took over, because I knew the playing group

2046
01:42:04,267 --> 01:42:08,387
Speaker 20: and I knew the the capabilities and restrictions of all players,

2047
01:42:08,427 --> 01:42:11,667
Speaker 20: it was easier to manipulate in game changes and changing

2048
01:42:11,747 --> 01:42:14,267
Speaker 20: things on the run. Last year we found it more

2049
01:42:14,307 --> 01:42:16,347
Speaker 20: difficult because we had a little bit more of an

2050
01:42:16,667 --> 01:42:19,147
Speaker 20: inexperienced group. Even with the senior players that come in

2051
01:42:19,467 --> 01:42:23,587
Speaker 20: the visas and so on, didn't understand maybe the nuances

2052
01:42:23,627 --> 01:42:27,267
Speaker 20: that were required and that's also partly, well a large

2053
01:42:27,307 --> 01:42:30,667
Speaker 20: part of my fault, because you know, my expectation was

2054
01:42:30,667 --> 01:42:33,507
Speaker 20: probably a lot higher than what I anticipated the players

2055
01:42:33,547 --> 01:42:37,347
Speaker 20: could deliver. But this year we went back to a

2056
01:42:37,427 --> 01:42:43,347
Speaker 20: more structured approach of having one solid formation base and

2057
01:42:43,987 --> 01:42:46,707
Speaker 20: more around the intent and the style, and then we

2058
01:42:46,827 --> 01:42:49,227
Speaker 20: work off that. So now when I make a sub,

2059
01:42:50,227 --> 01:42:55,387
Speaker 20: I feel as though in game changes aren't as detrimental

2060
01:42:55,547 --> 01:42:59,747
Speaker 20: to the game flow and momentum. So now I'm finding

2061
01:42:59,867 --> 01:43:02,627
Speaker 20: that even you know, the Brisbane game was probably the

2062
01:43:02,667 --> 01:43:08,147
Speaker 20: best example. Both Luke Brooks and Corbs came on, had

2063
01:43:08,187 --> 01:43:10,427
Speaker 20: a distinct role but within the system, and they came

2064
01:43:10,507 --> 01:43:13,227
Speaker 20: on and fighted to execution and we ended up winning.

2065
01:43:13,307 --> 01:43:15,947
Speaker 3: So you know, but it also goes the other way

2066
01:43:15,987 --> 01:43:16,307
Speaker 3: as well.

2067
01:43:16,427 --> 01:43:19,187
Speaker 20: I've made subs where sometimes it ruins the flow of

2068
01:43:19,267 --> 01:43:22,587
Speaker 20: the game and it goes against you. But again, once

2069
01:43:22,667 --> 01:43:27,587
Speaker 20: the players build more belief in the system and understanding,

2070
01:43:27,667 --> 01:43:28,947
Speaker 20: then those things become easier.

2071
01:43:29,587 --> 01:43:33,307
Speaker 2: Let's talk about today, how much from Derby won the

2072
01:43:33,427 --> 01:43:36,107
Speaker 2: season against Auckland a month ago is useful today?

2073
01:43:37,027 --> 01:43:37,907
Speaker 7: Oh, I think it's.

2074
01:43:39,707 --> 01:43:42,987
Speaker 20: It gave us a lot of insight into how they think,

2075
01:43:44,347 --> 01:43:47,627
Speaker 20: how how we prepare, how we prepare and in game

2076
01:43:47,707 --> 01:43:51,067
Speaker 20: management for all scenarios, you know, So it knocked a

2077
01:43:51,107 --> 01:43:52,987
Speaker 20: lot of things on the head that I think were

2078
01:43:54,787 --> 01:43:56,987
Speaker 20: we're very important, you know, over these three at this

2079
01:43:57,147 --> 01:44:02,787
Speaker 20: three game series. I actually thought that in the first half,

2080
01:44:02,827 --> 01:44:04,627
Speaker 20: I thought Auckland would be a little bit more brave

2081
01:44:04,747 --> 01:44:07,107
Speaker 20: through the with a ball through in the middle, and

2082
01:44:07,387 --> 01:44:10,187
Speaker 20: I felt as though they felt that the easy out

2083
01:44:10,387 --> 01:44:13,067
Speaker 20: was the ball over, you know, trying to catch the

2084
01:44:13,147 --> 01:44:16,147
Speaker 20: line off they got, you know, they got very they

2085
01:44:16,227 --> 01:44:18,307
Speaker 20: got very lucky with two attempts which are probably against

2086
01:44:18,307 --> 01:44:20,227
Speaker 20: the run the player. One was obviouslyelf kickoff, which was

2087
01:44:20,547 --> 01:44:24,267
Speaker 20: poured from up from us. But I found that quite surprising.

2088
01:44:24,747 --> 01:44:26,667
Speaker 20: And then once the red card came in, obviously that

2089
01:44:26,747 --> 01:44:28,987
Speaker 20: played to their strengths of defending and made it very

2090
01:44:29,027 --> 01:44:31,707
Speaker 20: difficult for us. But in saying that, now we know

2091
01:44:31,787 --> 01:44:34,227
Speaker 20: what to do if we're placing that scenario, and also

2092
01:44:34,467 --> 01:44:36,107
Speaker 20: the other way as well, you know, like what happens

2093
01:44:36,147 --> 01:44:38,067
Speaker 20: when we go to ten man, how we deal with

2094
01:44:38,067 --> 01:44:39,947
Speaker 20: the emotion of leading, how we deal with the emotion

2095
01:44:40,107 --> 01:44:43,427
Speaker 20: of conceding as well. So in terms of maturity, it

2096
01:44:43,507 --> 01:44:45,947
Speaker 20: went a long way on progressing the group.

2097
01:44:46,787 --> 01:44:50,987
Speaker 2: Do you use the magnitude of the occasion in any

2098
01:44:51,067 --> 01:44:53,427
Speaker 2: way in terms of your preparation. You know, the fans

2099
01:44:53,507 --> 01:44:56,547
Speaker 2: love it, we in the media love it. Do you

2100
01:44:56,947 --> 01:44:59,307
Speaker 2: do you use how big an occasion it is as

2101
01:44:59,387 --> 01:45:00,347
Speaker 2: part of your prep.

2102
01:45:00,707 --> 01:45:05,067
Speaker 20: I did that last year and a backfire. Look, I

2103
01:45:05,147 --> 01:45:07,347
Speaker 20: think it really comes down to the group. I think

2104
01:45:07,507 --> 01:45:11,187
Speaker 20: Derbies within themselves are separate to the league in the

2105
01:45:11,267 --> 01:45:14,427
Speaker 20: sense that the Derbies are everything to die for. You know,

2106
01:45:14,507 --> 01:45:16,187
Speaker 20: you're playing for prior, you're playing for the you know

2107
01:45:16,587 --> 01:45:19,667
Speaker 20: who owns who owns football? Within that, you know that

2108
01:45:19,827 --> 01:45:26,187
Speaker 20: Derby sphere. I think that one of the biggest eras

2109
01:45:26,307 --> 01:45:29,267
Speaker 20: last season going into the Derby's were we already had

2110
01:45:29,307 --> 01:45:31,827
Speaker 20: a presumption that going into the Derbies. And this is

2111
01:45:31,907 --> 01:45:33,507
Speaker 20: not me, this is more than I would say some

2112
01:45:33,707 --> 01:45:37,827
Speaker 20: players that you know that we were the number one team,

2113
01:45:38,507 --> 01:45:40,987
Speaker 20: and that it made it a lot easier for Auckland

2114
01:45:41,067 --> 01:45:42,147
Speaker 20: to go, all right, well we're going to try to

2115
01:45:42,187 --> 01:45:43,947
Speaker 20: knock them off the perch. They had the incentive to

2116
01:45:44,027 --> 01:45:46,547
Speaker 20: knock us off the perch. And then the way we

2117
01:45:46,667 --> 01:45:50,107
Speaker 20: lost that first game was was something that I don't

2118
01:45:50,107 --> 01:45:53,307
Speaker 20: think any of the group can you conceived as being possible.

2119
01:45:53,427 --> 01:45:56,027
Speaker 20: And then that kind of you know, rattled us. But

2120
01:45:56,147 --> 01:45:59,667
Speaker 20: I think as time progresses, you know, the players that

2121
01:45:59,747 --> 01:46:02,987
Speaker 20: are that are here and the new players, you know,

2122
01:46:03,267 --> 01:46:05,347
Speaker 20: they go into that game, or they'll go into today's

2123
01:46:05,387 --> 01:46:08,187
Speaker 20: games as a grand final. It's more of a semi final.

2124
01:46:08,627 --> 01:46:08,747
Speaker 7: You know.

2125
01:46:08,867 --> 01:46:12,187
Speaker 20: There'll be you know, a lot of a lot of

2126
01:46:12,547 --> 01:46:15,187
Speaker 20: good you know, fifty to fifty challengers, and there'll be

2127
01:46:15,227 --> 01:46:17,307
Speaker 20: an intensity to the game that you don't usually get

2128
01:46:17,347 --> 01:46:19,867
Speaker 20: in the league match. So I don't really need to

2129
01:46:19,907 --> 01:46:22,027
Speaker 20: play into that. I just need to guide them in

2130
01:46:22,067 --> 01:46:24,387
Speaker 20: the right direction. If I get to animated, I know

2131
01:46:24,467 --> 01:46:26,387
Speaker 20: what will happen. I think, you know, we'll have two

2132
01:46:26,467 --> 01:46:29,027
Speaker 20: or three red cards after twenty minutes, because you know,

2133
01:46:29,147 --> 01:46:31,187
Speaker 20: sometimes when I get a little bit intense as well,

2134
01:46:31,227 --> 01:46:32,627
Speaker 20: you know, it rubs off on the player, so I

2135
01:46:32,747 --> 01:46:35,787
Speaker 20: have to try and measure it. But I think the

2136
01:46:35,867 --> 01:46:38,907
Speaker 20: players are fully cognizant of the fact that, okay, this

2137
01:46:39,107 --> 01:46:40,627
Speaker 20: is a big game. They're up for it, you know,

2138
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Speaker 20: and I just have to make sure I manage them well.

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01:46:44,227 --> 01:46:46,547
Speaker 3: And someone's the last year two Derby's in the first

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01:46:46,627 --> 01:46:50,387
Speaker 3: what seven weeks of the season or thereabouts, will any

2141
01:46:50,427 --> 01:46:52,187
Speaker 3: part of you be quite pleased to get today out

2142
01:46:52,227 --> 01:46:54,947
Speaker 3: of the way, leave the higher emotion of these games behind,

2143
01:46:55,667 --> 01:46:58,067
Speaker 3: and I guess focus forward on. I don't want to

2144
01:46:58,107 --> 01:47:00,747
Speaker 3: call them normal football matches, but other football matches any

2145
01:47:00,787 --> 01:47:02,547
Speaker 3: part of your you know, just begin to get the

2146
01:47:02,587 --> 01:47:03,987
Speaker 3: emotion of today data move on.

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01:47:04,827 --> 01:47:05,467
Speaker 7: I thought about this.

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01:47:06,467 --> 01:47:08,467
Speaker 20: I actually thought about this probably about a week ago,

2149
01:47:09,907 --> 01:47:14,147
Speaker 20: and I think the one thing that just it not

2150
01:47:14,307 --> 01:47:18,187
Speaker 20: irritates me, but it just sits in them. It doesn't

2151
01:47:18,227 --> 01:47:20,547
Speaker 20: sit well with me is that we've had two derbies

2152
01:47:20,587 --> 01:47:23,307
Speaker 20: now and by round seven. No normal league in the

2153
01:47:23,347 --> 01:47:26,187
Speaker 20: world has two derbies after you know, eight rounds, and

2154
01:47:26,307 --> 01:47:29,827
Speaker 20: a lot can be said about the team season's performance,

2155
01:47:29,867 --> 01:47:31,867
Speaker 20: you know, after having two doubles.

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01:47:31,547 --> 01:47:31,667
Speaker 8: You know.

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01:47:32,107 --> 01:47:34,307
Speaker 20: I think these things need to be built into you know,

2158
01:47:34,427 --> 01:47:37,027
Speaker 20: like an early derby's great, you know, but if you're

2159
01:47:37,027 --> 01:47:39,907
Speaker 20: playing three weeks after, you know, not not a lot

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01:47:39,947 --> 01:47:43,467
Speaker 20: of waters under that bridge. So I think that that's

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01:47:43,627 --> 01:47:45,787
Speaker 20: the irritating part. I mean, look, if we win today,

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01:47:46,227 --> 01:47:51,027
Speaker 20: you know, there won't be another consideration. But I think that, yeah,

2163
01:47:51,427 --> 01:47:53,787
Speaker 20: we kind of lose sight of what the actual end

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01:47:53,827 --> 01:47:56,147
Speaker 20: goal is. But if you ask me what I want,

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01:47:56,187 --> 01:47:57,827
Speaker 20: I want to win today and I win to win

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01:47:57,907 --> 01:48:00,227
Speaker 20: every derby. I don't want to let Auckland win any games.

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01:48:01,147 --> 01:48:03,987
Speaker 20: You know that goes without saying. But yeah, once we

2168
01:48:04,067 --> 01:48:05,867
Speaker 20: get this game out of the way again, you know,

2169
01:48:05,907 --> 01:48:10,107
Speaker 20: we've got to games at home, and you know, I

2170
01:48:10,227 --> 01:48:12,707
Speaker 20: think today winning today would also put a dn in

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01:48:12,747 --> 01:48:14,067
Speaker 20: Auckland's progression.

2172
01:48:13,627 --> 01:48:14,187
Speaker 10: For the season.

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01:48:14,707 --> 01:48:18,667
Speaker 20: The table's ridiculously close at the moment. Any sort of momentum,

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01:48:18,707 --> 01:48:20,267
Speaker 20: you win two three games, you know, you go from

2175
01:48:20,347 --> 01:48:22,227
Speaker 20: last to like third or fourth or whatever it is.

2176
01:48:22,307 --> 01:48:25,147
Speaker 20: You know, so we need to make sure we capitalize

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01:48:25,147 --> 01:48:26,387
Speaker 20: on those those moments.

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01:48:26,467 --> 01:48:27,787
Speaker 3: All right, Just before you go, I, oh, you've got

2179
01:48:27,787 --> 01:48:29,747
Speaker 3: a busy day. World Cup draw this morning. I got

2180
01:48:29,747 --> 01:48:31,267
Speaker 3: a bunch of players in your team, I'm sure who

2181
01:48:31,627 --> 01:48:34,387
Speaker 3: have got their eyes on a place in the World

2182
01:48:34,427 --> 01:48:38,707
Speaker 3: Cup squad next year Belgium, I run Egypt. Dye of

2183
01:48:38,707 --> 01:48:41,387
Speaker 3: assays that as a draw for the all Whites.

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01:48:42,867 --> 01:48:45,667
Speaker 20: Speaking honestly, I think it would be disappointing now if

2185
01:48:45,667 --> 01:48:48,307
Speaker 20: they don't get out of the group, because I think

2186
01:48:48,387 --> 01:48:52,587
Speaker 20: that with eight teams from third place progressing through to

2187
01:48:52,667 --> 01:48:55,547
Speaker 20: the round of I think it's thirty two now. I

2188
01:48:55,667 --> 01:48:58,867
Speaker 20: think that finishing third minimum third in that group is

2189
01:48:58,987 --> 01:49:02,667
Speaker 20: very realistic. I don't think two points will be enough.

2190
01:49:02,707 --> 01:49:04,867
Speaker 20: I think they definitely need to win one game. I

2191
01:49:04,947 --> 01:49:07,307
Speaker 20: think the team is very very capable of picking up

2192
01:49:07,347 --> 01:49:12,627
Speaker 20: six points. Film more honest opinion. Knowing the Kiwi Boys

2193
01:49:12,667 --> 01:49:15,787
Speaker 20: have come through my squad and been associated with New

2194
01:49:15,867 --> 01:49:18,787
Speaker 20: Zealand football now for seven years, I think that what

2195
01:49:18,907 --> 01:49:22,427
Speaker 20: gets underplayed is actual quality of our players and the

2196
01:49:22,467 --> 01:49:25,107
Speaker 20: players that play abroad, and it's just finding the right

2197
01:49:25,507 --> 01:49:29,467
Speaker 20: mixture of you know, combination of players and also working

2198
01:49:29,547 --> 01:49:33,387
Speaker 20: to what is strong within the squad. You know, obviously

2199
01:49:33,507 --> 01:49:35,867
Speaker 20: Chris Wood is a big focal point, but even if

2200
01:49:35,907 --> 01:49:38,787
Speaker 20: you get players like off the bench like Costa, they

2201
01:49:38,827 --> 01:49:41,947
Speaker 20: give you a different dynamics sing I'm a big fan

2202
01:49:42,067 --> 01:49:44,467
Speaker 20: of Jesse Randall. I think, you know, if you put

2203
01:49:44,547 --> 01:49:48,427
Speaker 20: him an oldie together, seeing you've got a very creative midfield.

2204
01:49:49,107 --> 01:49:51,587
Speaker 20: I'm a big fan of obviously Staminach and I think

2205
01:49:51,707 --> 01:49:54,947
Speaker 20: Rufer as well. I think I think the pairings there

2206
01:49:55,627 --> 01:49:57,427
Speaker 20: and the boys have been playing there for a long time,

2207
01:49:57,547 --> 01:50:00,827
Speaker 20: so I think that it's a really big opportunity for

2208
01:50:00,947 --> 01:50:04,347
Speaker 20: them to you know, grind through the tournament and if

2209
01:50:04,387 --> 01:50:06,147
Speaker 20: they get to round of thirty two, who knows, you know,

2210
01:50:06,507 --> 01:50:08,867
Speaker 20: Like I think I mentioned to you earlier. I don't

2211
01:50:08,907 --> 01:50:11,547
Speaker 20: think in any of the groups are saying a real

2212
01:50:11,627 --> 01:50:14,187
Speaker 20: group of death or a group of life. I think

2213
01:50:14,227 --> 01:50:16,427
Speaker 20: that the groups are evenly distributed, which is you know,

2214
01:50:16,507 --> 01:50:18,627
Speaker 20: first time ever that I've seen a World Cup draw

2215
01:50:18,787 --> 01:50:21,947
Speaker 20: like that. So it's a massive opportunity for New Zealand

2216
01:50:21,987 --> 01:50:24,667
Speaker 20: and I think that it'd be great to see them

2217
01:50:24,707 --> 01:50:25,867
Speaker 20: get into the knockout stages.

2218
01:50:25,947 --> 01:50:27,987
Speaker 3: Indeed, great to see you chief, thanks for stopping it

2219
01:50:27,987 --> 01:50:29,347
Speaker 3: on match day. All the best this afternoon.

2220
01:50:29,627 --> 01:50:29,907
Speaker 7: Thank you.

2221
01:50:30,187 --> 01:50:33,307
Speaker 2: That is Gianclo Ataliano, head coach of Wellington Phoenix. Five

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01:50:33,307 --> 01:50:36,347
Speaker 2: o'clock kick off at go Media Stadium, Auckland FC up

2223
01:50:36,387 --> 01:50:39,867
Speaker 2: against Wellington Phoenix in the second Kiwe Darby of the

2224
01:50:39,987 --> 01:50:42,987
Speaker 2: A League season, twenty three away from three before three

2225
01:50:42,987 --> 01:50:46,707
Speaker 2: o'clock and a check to Brian Young, former New Zealand batsman,

2226
01:50:47,187 --> 01:50:50,227
Speaker 2: not about his career, not about anything he did necessarily

2227
01:50:50,267 --> 01:50:52,707
Speaker 2: apart from the fact he played against Robin Smith and

2228
01:50:52,907 --> 01:50:56,507
Speaker 2: established a firm friendship with the England batter who tragically

2229
01:50:56,547 --> 01:50:58,667
Speaker 2: passed away this week at the age of just sixty two.

2230
01:50:59,067 --> 01:51:03,707
Speaker 2: Wanted to get some recollections from Brian Young on Robin Smith,

2231
01:51:03,787 --> 01:51:06,747
Speaker 2: but before that time to play a sporting chain. Answer

2232
01:51:06,747 --> 01:51:09,187
Speaker 2: with the tab. I'm going to offer you the chance

2233
01:51:09,227 --> 01:51:11,627
Speaker 2: of three bets. The choice of three bets, not the

2234
01:51:11,747 --> 01:51:14,187
Speaker 2: chance of three. The choice of three bets are short,

2235
01:51:14,627 --> 01:51:17,947
Speaker 2: evens and long. You decide which one you want. We

2236
01:51:18,067 --> 01:51:20,747
Speaker 2: will place a one hundred and fifty dollars bonus bet

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Speaker 2: on your behalf. If it comes home the winnings minus

2238
01:51:23,707 --> 01:51:24,587
Speaker 2: the initial one fifty?

2239
01:51:24,627 --> 01:51:25,067
Speaker 3: Are yours?

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Speaker 10: Got to be over?

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Speaker 3: Eighteen call out call a five oh eight hundred and

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01:51:28,867 --> 01:51:30,147
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty.

2243
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Speaker 1: The tough questions off the turf Weekends for It with

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01:51:34,187 --> 01:51:38,107
Speaker 1: Jason Tyne and GJ. Gunnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home

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Speaker 1: builder News Dogs b It's time for a spawning chance

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Speaker 1: thanks to tab.

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01:51:46,947 --> 01:51:49,907
Speaker 2: Yes, it is a very popular competition. This one I

2248
01:51:50,027 --> 01:51:53,507
Speaker 2: give somebody, and today's somebody is Pat. I'm going to

2249
01:51:53,547 --> 01:51:56,587
Speaker 2: give Pat the choice of three bets, are short and evens,

2250
01:51:56,587 --> 01:51:58,747
Speaker 2: are a long. He's going to decide which one he likes,

2251
01:51:59,107 --> 01:52:00,707
Speaker 2: will place the bet and if it comes in, the

2252
01:52:00,787 --> 01:52:03,267
Speaker 2: winnings minus the one fifty or yours Pat?

2253
01:52:03,307 --> 01:52:04,227
Speaker 3: How does that sound.

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01:52:06,867 --> 01:52:09,147
Speaker 2: Good on your Pat? All right, here are your three options.

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01:52:09,707 --> 01:52:14,867
Speaker 2: Your short It's a Cricket Bet Second Ashes Test top

2256
01:52:14,947 --> 01:52:19,467
Speaker 2: Australian first innings run scorer Alex Carey at a dollar

2257
01:52:19,547 --> 01:52:20,427
Speaker 2: eighty five now.

2258
01:52:20,467 --> 01:52:24,427
Speaker 3: He is currently forty six not out. The current top.

2259
01:52:24,347 --> 01:52:26,747
Speaker 2: Scorer in the innings is Jake Weatherwold, who made seventy

2260
01:52:26,787 --> 01:52:29,427
Speaker 2: two yesterday. So Kerrey would need to go on to

2261
01:52:29,467 --> 01:52:32,107
Speaker 2: go past seventy two and have nobody else score more

2262
01:52:32,147 --> 01:52:34,827
Speaker 2: than him. You would win one hundred and twenty seven

2263
01:52:34,907 --> 01:52:39,427
Speaker 2: dollars fifty. That is your short option. Okay, yep, even

2264
01:52:39,947 --> 01:52:42,587
Speaker 2: the cream rises to the top. Special Formula One drivers

2265
01:52:42,667 --> 01:52:48,267
Speaker 2: Championship overall twenty twenty five winner Max for Stappin. There's

2266
01:52:48,307 --> 01:52:50,507
Speaker 2: one race to go, as you may know, Abu Dhabi

2267
01:52:50,587 --> 01:52:53,307
Speaker 2: Monday morning. He has to win it and hope that

2268
01:52:53,427 --> 01:52:55,827
Speaker 2: Lando Norris doesn't get on the podium or something like that.

2269
01:52:55,947 --> 01:52:58,947
Speaker 2: If Max for Stappan wins the Drivers' Championship, it's paying

2270
01:52:59,027 --> 01:53:02,547
Speaker 2: three dollars fifty. You would win three hundred and seventy five.

2271
01:53:02,707 --> 01:53:09,627
Speaker 2: Pat That is your evans. You understand, I understand, and

2272
01:53:09,827 --> 01:53:14,187
Speaker 2: you're long the breaking the Derby Domination special Auckland FC

2273
01:53:14,347 --> 01:53:18,587
Speaker 2: Wellington Phoenix exact score Phoenix to win two to one.

2274
01:53:19,307 --> 01:53:23,747
Speaker 2: It's paying fifteen dollars, you would win two thousand, one

2275
01:53:23,907 --> 01:53:27,467
Speaker 2: hundred so to recap Alex Carey to be top scorer

2276
01:53:27,507 --> 01:53:29,707
Speaker 2: in Australia's first innings, you'd win one twenty seven to

2277
01:53:29,747 --> 01:53:32,747
Speaker 2: fifty max for stepping. To win the twenty twenty five

2278
01:53:32,827 --> 01:53:36,547
Speaker 2: Drivers Championship, you'd win three seventy five. The Phoenix to

2279
01:53:36,587 --> 01:53:39,467
Speaker 2: beat Auckland by exactly two to one. This afternoon, you'd

2280
01:53:39,507 --> 01:53:43,067
Speaker 2: win two thousand, one hundred. Which of those do you like?

2281
01:53:43,187 --> 01:53:43,387
Speaker 7: Pat?

2282
01:53:44,907 --> 01:53:47,827
Speaker 12: I think, Jason, I think I'm going to take option three.

2283
01:53:48,067 --> 01:53:53,147
Speaker 15: Option three been a having been a Phoenix supporter since

2284
01:53:53,227 --> 01:53:53,627
Speaker 15: day one.

2285
01:53:54,547 --> 01:53:55,707
Speaker 12: Yep, I'll go with that.

2286
01:53:55,827 --> 01:53:56,107
Speaker 5: Thanks.

2287
01:53:56,227 --> 01:53:58,227
Speaker 2: Good on your Pat, Good on you up the knicks

2288
01:53:58,227 --> 01:53:59,987
Speaker 2: as they say, Pat, We're going to place that bet

2289
01:54:00,067 --> 01:54:02,627
Speaker 2: for you. If the Phoenix win two one, not only

2290
01:54:02,707 --> 01:54:05,707
Speaker 2: will you be a happy Phoenix Foundation supporter, but you'll

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01:54:05,707 --> 01:54:07,587
Speaker 2: also be two thousand and one hundred dollars rich and

2292
01:54:07,707 --> 01:54:09,347
Speaker 2: not not a bad couple of hours.

2293
01:54:10,707 --> 01:54:11,827
Speaker 9: That'd be great, Jason.

2294
01:54:11,867 --> 01:54:14,867
Speaker 3: I look fort to your phone call tomorrow. Got on you, Pad.

2295
01:54:14,947 --> 01:54:17,507
Speaker 2: I love it, mate, I love it, I love the optimism.

2296
01:54:17,547 --> 01:54:19,187
Speaker 2: I look forward to calling you tomorrow. Put you back

2297
01:54:19,187 --> 01:54:20,587
Speaker 2: on hold. Corbyn's going to make sure he's got all

2298
01:54:20,627 --> 01:54:22,947
Speaker 2: your details. We will place that bet for you and

2299
01:54:23,027 --> 01:54:25,747
Speaker 2: certainly hope that it happens and we'll do it all

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01:54:25,787 --> 01:54:28,027
Speaker 2: again next week. Thanks to our mates at the tab.

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01:54:28,427 --> 01:54:32,987
Speaker 2: As always, please bet responsibly. Very sad news this week

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01:54:33,067 --> 01:54:35,987
Speaker 2: with the passing of former England batsman Robin Smith at

2303
01:54:36,027 --> 01:54:39,507
Speaker 2: the age of just sixty two. Robin Smith played sixty

2304
01:54:39,547 --> 01:54:42,427
Speaker 2: two Test matches for England between nineteen eighty eight and

2305
01:54:42,547 --> 01:54:45,147
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety six, scoring four thousand, two hundred and thirty

2306
01:54:45,187 --> 01:54:47,627
Speaker 2: six runs at an average of nearly forty four with

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01:54:47,787 --> 01:54:51,067
Speaker 2: nine centuries. In a first class career that stretched for

2308
01:54:51,187 --> 01:54:55,507
Speaker 2: more than two decades, he scored over twenty six thousand runs.

2309
01:54:55,947 --> 01:54:58,907
Speaker 2: He also played in seventy one One Day Internationals and

2310
01:54:59,107 --> 01:55:00,987
Speaker 2: was part of the England squad that reached the nineteen

2311
01:55:01,107 --> 01:55:05,107
Speaker 2: ninety two World Cup final. Former New Zealand opener Brian

2312
01:55:05,227 --> 01:55:09,747
Speaker 2: Young played against Smith several times and formed a friendship

2313
01:55:09,827 --> 01:55:13,667
Speaker 2: with him, including a three Test series in England in

2314
01:55:13,827 --> 01:55:14,707
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety four.

2315
01:55:14,827 --> 01:55:15,627
Speaker 3: Brian Young's with US.

2316
01:55:15,627 --> 01:55:18,907
Speaker 2: Brian understand that before that series in England in nineteen

2317
01:55:18,987 --> 01:55:22,867
Speaker 2: ninety four, Robin Smith and Martin Crowe had a wee

2318
01:55:23,067 --> 01:55:24,267
Speaker 2: side bet, Is that right?

2319
01:55:25,627 --> 01:55:29,947
Speaker 11: Yes, Jackson in good afternoon, everybody listening in.

2320
01:55:30,347 --> 01:55:36,467
Speaker 8: Yes, Judge, Robin Smith and Martin Crow we're very old

2321
01:55:36,547 --> 01:55:40,227
Speaker 8: mates and I got no I got to know Judge

2322
01:55:40,307 --> 01:55:41,467
Speaker 8: pretty well as well.

2323
01:55:41,547 --> 01:55:43,467
Speaker 11: But he and Martin went back a long way.

2324
01:55:43,547 --> 01:55:48,547
Speaker 8: And during the ninety four tour event, as mates do,

2325
01:55:48,787 --> 01:55:50,387
Speaker 8: they sort of have a bit of bit of banter

2326
01:55:51,027 --> 01:55:54,227
Speaker 8: and a little bit of I'm going to score more

2327
01:55:54,267 --> 01:55:56,427
Speaker 8: runs than you in the Test series, and so there

2328
01:55:56,467 --> 01:55:59,467
Speaker 8: was obviously a wage you put on it, which probably

2329
01:55:59,507 --> 01:56:04,707
Speaker 8: involved dinner and drinks and maybe maybe maybe a little

2330
01:56:04,827 --> 01:56:07,027
Speaker 8: hundred quidal or whatever. I don't know the details, but

2331
01:56:07,147 --> 01:56:09,347
Speaker 8: it was it was a personal bet between the two.

2332
01:56:09,987 --> 01:56:12,107
Speaker 3: And well, let's go to the end of the series.

2333
01:56:12,147 --> 01:56:15,267
Speaker 2: Martin Cross called three hundred and eighty runs in that series,

2334
01:56:15,627 --> 01:56:17,627
Speaker 2: including one hundred and forty and the second Test at

2335
01:56:17,707 --> 01:56:21,107
Speaker 2: Lord's Well. Robin Smith just the one hundred and twenty

2336
01:56:21,227 --> 01:56:24,107
Speaker 2: runs across the series. So fear to say Martin won

2337
01:56:24,187 --> 01:56:24,427
Speaker 2: the bet.

2338
01:56:24,547 --> 01:56:28,387
Speaker 8: Okay, Yes, And that's where that's where the story gets

2339
01:56:28,827 --> 01:56:31,987
Speaker 8: gets really humorous, you know. And I have to say

2340
01:56:32,107 --> 01:56:35,987
Speaker 8: that Judge was as a lot of the plaudits around

2341
01:56:36,027 --> 01:56:39,307
Speaker 8: the around the world have have probably shown he was

2342
01:56:39,467 --> 01:56:43,387
Speaker 8: an outstanding human being, just a great guy. One of

2343
01:56:43,467 --> 01:56:47,787
Speaker 8: the time great guys do anything for anybody, passionate, just

2344
01:56:48,187 --> 01:56:52,547
Speaker 8: a quietly spoken and just a just a lovely guy.

2345
01:56:52,667 --> 01:56:57,747
Speaker 8: A brutal destroyer of bowling attacks. You wouldn't think that

2346
01:56:57,827 --> 01:57:00,627
Speaker 8: he was a gentle man at all, but he really

2347
01:57:00,707 --> 01:57:04,387
Speaker 8: really was. And you know, obviously our heart go our

2348
01:57:04,467 --> 01:57:08,067
Speaker 8: hearts go out to his family and friends and everyone

2349
01:57:08,107 --> 01:57:11,387
Speaker 8: around the globe who knew him. But and also very

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Speaker 8: humorous man as well, which was which was part of it.

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Speaker 8: And the thing that I remember the most. We were

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01:57:17,147 --> 01:57:23,907
Speaker 8: at lords at the second Test and Martin scored an

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Speaker 8: incredible one hundred and forty literally on one leg, if

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01:57:26,587 --> 01:57:30,267
Speaker 8: everyone might remember, he had a carbon fiber brace on

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Speaker 8: his leg and he was hobbling around and he scored

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Speaker 8: this magnificent one forty odd at Lord's which was quite

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Speaker 8: sobering for the rest of us. And poor old Judge

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01:57:44,547 --> 01:57:48,587
Speaker 8: was horrendously out formed. Like he was, he did not

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Speaker 8: know where his next run was coming from. He was

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Speaker 8: under extreme pressure from the selectors, from the media or

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01:57:54,107 --> 01:57:55,947
Speaker 8: what the you know, what the English are like, was,

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Speaker 8: you know, putting pressure on people who are underperforming, and

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01:57:59,627 --> 01:58:02,307
Speaker 8: he knew that he was on He was on the

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01:58:02,707 --> 01:58:09,107
Speaker 8: precipice of being dropped. And in the first innings we

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Speaker 8: were walking between overs and Mark was at gully and

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Speaker 8: I was at second slip. And so when you walk

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Speaker 8: in between overs, you tend to walk down the line

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01:58:17,587 --> 01:58:19,427
Speaker 8: of the wicket and you tend to walk close to

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Speaker 8: where the batsmen are having a chat in the middle

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Speaker 8: between overs.

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Speaker 11: And I remember saying, good good morning, judge, how are you?

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Speaker 8: And he says in a South African accent, and I

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01:58:30,267 --> 01:58:33,467
Speaker 8: do apologize for people listening, and he said, ah, youngie.

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Speaker 21: He says, I've got this rash on the back of

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Speaker 21: my neck. My head's been on the chopping block for

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01:58:37,667 --> 01:58:41,667
Speaker 21: so long. I've got this massive rash. And this is

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Speaker 21: a that's the sort of guy he was.

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Speaker 8: He was like, here he is in the middle of

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Speaker 8: the wicket, you know, having it with Graham Gooch or

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Speaker 8: Michael Atherton or whoever it was.

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Speaker 11: And I've just said, you know, get a judge, how

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01:58:55,707 --> 01:58:55,907
Speaker 11: are you?

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Speaker 8: And he's just tucking the living mickey out of himself,

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01:58:59,147 --> 01:59:03,107
Speaker 8: trying to, I think, probably alleviate the pressure and have

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01:59:03,187 --> 01:59:05,467
Speaker 8: a bit of a laugh because you're bat better if

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01:59:05,467 --> 01:59:08,267
Speaker 8: you're smiling. But it didn't work, and he didn't get

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01:59:08,347 --> 01:59:12,427
Speaker 8: very many, I don't think. And then, of course, you know,

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01:59:12,947 --> 01:59:15,707
Speaker 8: this is a little later on. He's still struggling and

2389
01:59:15,787 --> 01:59:17,427
Speaker 8: he would get a loose delivery and he'd hit it

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01:59:17,547 --> 01:59:17,907
Speaker 8: straight to.

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01:59:17,907 --> 01:59:20,387
Speaker 11: A field when he wouldn't get the gap. And we

2392
01:59:20,467 --> 01:59:22,347
Speaker 11: were warmed between the overs again.

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Speaker 8: At another time, and I didn't say anything, but Martin

2394
01:59:25,627 --> 01:59:29,427
Speaker 8: Crowe said, you know, keep you know, how's it going, judge,

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01:59:29,827 --> 01:59:35,307
Speaker 8: And he motioned to his his chest and he opened

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01:59:35,467 --> 01:59:38,347
Speaker 8: up what was like a pretend if he was wearing

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01:59:38,547 --> 01:59:40,667
Speaker 8: a blazer or a jacket and if you can imagine

2398
01:59:41,067 --> 01:59:44,507
Speaker 8: somebody imagining he's got to make believe jacket on, and

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01:59:44,587 --> 01:59:47,987
Speaker 8: he opened up his opened up this make believe jacket,

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01:59:48,227 --> 01:59:48,987
Speaker 8: and he said.

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01:59:49,227 --> 01:59:51,867
Speaker 11: Hey, Hogan, how would you like me to pay?

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01:59:51,907 --> 01:59:55,107
Speaker 8: It would make me to pay way visa MasterCard or

2403
01:59:55,147 --> 02:00:01,467
Speaker 8: American Express. Wonderful, because yeah, it was just honestly, I

2404
02:00:01,707 --> 02:00:05,427
Speaker 8: was creasing myself. So was Martin, So was so was

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02:00:05,987 --> 02:00:09,387
Speaker 8: Robin's smouth, Judge, and it was he was basically saying,

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02:00:09,547 --> 02:00:12,947
Speaker 8: you've scored this magnificent one hundred and forty and I

2407
02:00:13,147 --> 02:00:14,187
Speaker 8: can't score a run.

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02:00:14,587 --> 02:00:17,147
Speaker 11: There's no way on winning this bed. How would you

2409
02:00:17,267 --> 02:00:17,787
Speaker 11: like me to pay?

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Speaker 7: You know?

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Speaker 3: But that was the measure of the man.

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Speaker 8: In the middle of a Test match where you know,

2413
02:00:25,467 --> 02:00:29,347
Speaker 8: a full house at Lord's, the pressure's on, you know,

2414
02:00:29,427 --> 02:00:32,027
Speaker 8: the microscoes on, all the cameras are on you, and

2415
02:00:32,747 --> 02:00:36,347
Speaker 8: and a difficult situation and here he was trying to

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02:00:36,507 --> 02:00:37,747
Speaker 8: make light of the situation.

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Speaker 11: And I think that's the measure of the guy.

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Speaker 2: What a great what a great couple of stories, Brian, brilliant.

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Speaker 2: But as you say, he might have been out of

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02:00:45,187 --> 02:00:48,427
Speaker 2: form in that particular series. But man, he could bat,

2421
02:00:48,747 --> 02:00:50,787
Speaker 2: couldn't well. I remember watching him come over here for

2422
02:00:50,867 --> 02:00:53,867
Speaker 2: a one day series headed that nineteen ninety two World Cup,

2423
02:00:53,987 --> 02:00:56,787
Speaker 2: and just the way he used to play, you know,

2424
02:00:57,147 --> 02:01:00,627
Speaker 2: cover drives and you know all around the wicket.

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02:01:00,747 --> 02:01:02,627
Speaker 3: He could play, couldn't he. Robin Smith?

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Speaker 11: Oh, well, certainly square of the wicket.

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Speaker 8: And you know there's some eight series against the West

2428
02:01:07,627 --> 02:01:10,827
Speaker 8: Indies at the at the hep of their powers and

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02:01:10,947 --> 02:01:12,747
Speaker 8: he would take them on. So he was not a

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Speaker 8: He was a destructive player and he would never he

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02:01:15,147 --> 02:01:21,227
Speaker 8: would try and dominate. And I used to love fielding

2432
02:01:21,267 --> 02:01:23,427
Speaker 8: at point and The reason I used to love fielding

2433
02:01:23,467 --> 02:01:26,827
Speaker 8: a point is because in One day Internationals and what

2434
02:01:26,907 --> 02:01:28,867
Speaker 8: have you, I was often slip in the Test matches.

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02:01:28,907 --> 02:01:31,547
Speaker 8: But I used to love being around point because that's

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Speaker 8: where a lot of action used to happen.

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Speaker 11: The ball used to come quickly, and I used to

2438
02:01:34,707 --> 02:01:35,387
Speaker 11: like that and what have you.

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02:01:35,747 --> 02:01:37,387
Speaker 8: I can tell you when you played England and Robin

2440
02:01:37,427 --> 02:01:40,267
Speaker 8: Smith was batting, I'd go, Harry, would you like to

2441
02:01:40,307 --> 02:01:41,067
Speaker 8: go a point, mate?

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02:01:43,627 --> 02:01:48,667
Speaker 11: Because he was probably one of the fiercest, fiercest cutters.

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02:01:48,347 --> 02:01:51,107
Speaker 8: Of the ball and no one would hit it harder.

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02:01:51,547 --> 02:01:52,907
Speaker 8: And I can tell you if you were at point,

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02:01:52,987 --> 02:01:56,547
Speaker 8: you were in for sore hands, that for sure. But yeah,

2446
02:01:56,867 --> 02:02:01,027
Speaker 8: look it's very sad news, but we should celebrate, you know,

2447
02:02:01,227 --> 02:02:05,747
Speaker 8: a terrific person first and foremost, and a terrific player secondly.

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Speaker 2: You've absolutely done that for us this afternoon. Brian, thank

2449
02:02:09,067 --> 02:02:11,787
Speaker 2: you so much for joining us. And yeah, we two

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02:02:12,387 --> 02:02:14,587
Speaker 2: wish the family of Robin Smith all the best, Brian,

2451
02:02:14,627 --> 02:02:17,267
Speaker 2: great to chat. Thanks for taking our call, My pleasure,

2452
02:02:17,867 --> 02:02:21,227
Speaker 2: Brian Young. They're paying tribute to us of mate Robin Smith.

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02:02:21,347 --> 02:02:23,347
Speaker 3: Great stuff. Eight Away from three News Talks edb.

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Speaker 1: The Scoons from the trash fields and the court on

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02:02:27,747 --> 02:02:31,747
Speaker 1: your home of sport, Weekend Sport with Jason Vine News.

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Speaker 2: Talks NB five to three. That pretty much wraps us

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02:02:34,227 --> 02:02:35,867
Speaker 2: for a weekend sport today. Thank you so much for

2458
02:02:35,947 --> 02:02:38,827
Speaker 2: listening in the West. And he's hanging on still six

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02:02:38,947 --> 02:02:40,747
Speaker 2: down in christ Church. But a bit of time for

2460
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Speaker 2: the black Caps to get these four remaining wickets to

2461
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Speaker 2: win the first Test. We'll get inside the black Caps

2462
02:02:45,547 --> 02:02:47,587
Speaker 2: camp tomorrow on the show regardless of what happens. We'll

2463
02:02:47,587 --> 02:02:49,667
Speaker 2: also look at the final round of Formula One with

2464
02:02:49,787 --> 02:02:53,067
Speaker 2: the Drivers' Championship coming down to the very last race.

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Speaker 2: And after midday tomorrow we have the exit interview with

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Speaker 2: New Zealand Rugby CEO Mark Robinson, the last time he'll

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02:03:00,547 --> 02:03:03,267
Speaker 2: join us in that role as he prepares to depart

2468
02:03:03,867 --> 02:03:07,147
Speaker 2: New Zealand Rugby. What's he proudest of? Are there are

2469
02:03:07,187 --> 02:03:09,587
Speaker 2: things that he wished he could have accomplished and didn't.

2470
02:03:09,947 --> 02:03:11,787
Speaker 2: Does he leave New Zealand Rugby in a better place

2471
02:03:11,827 --> 02:03:15,587
Speaker 2: than he found it? Mark Robinson our guest after midday tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Huge thanks to Carmen Boy for producing the show today,

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02:03:18,187 --> 02:03:20,227
Speaker 2: Top Manmate, enjoyed the rest of your afternoon, thank you

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02:03:20,307 --> 02:03:20,707
Speaker 2: for listening.

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Speaker 3: In Tim Beverage after three, taking us out.

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02:03:23,307 --> 02:03:26,547
Speaker 2: We're seeing that the All White's going to be probably

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02:03:26,587 --> 02:03:30,947
Speaker 2: playing a game in Seattle. One of Seattle's most famous bands,

2478
02:03:31,387 --> 02:03:34,147
Speaker 2: Pearl Jam and Better Man, taking us out today, said

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Speaker 2: him right at mid day.

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