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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks A'd be Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Stupid Girl by Garbage. Don't read into the title Chris

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Speaker 2: Chris Schultz's music review with Us this Morning. So five

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Speaker 2: years ago, let's talk through this story. Five years ago,

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Speaker 2: you were on the show. It was the middle of COVID.

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Speaker 2: You were dialing in from home. Tell us what happened?

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Speaker 3: Right, come into the studio like this. We were allowed to. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we had to dial in. It was lockdown. You couldn't

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Speaker 3: leave home. So, yeah, we were talking about a Charlie

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Speaker 3: xy X album that had come out. It was a

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Speaker 3: lockdown album. It was she'd made it at home in

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Speaker 3: her bedroom in LA and it was all about lockdown

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Speaker 3: and we were talking about it. And then you said

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Speaker 3: to me, what's gonna happen next with music? Where's this

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Speaker 3: gonna go? How is COVID going to affect the music trends?

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Speaker 3: And I, off the top of my head just blurted out,

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Speaker 3: comfort music, nostalgia. We're gonna want music that reminds us

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Speaker 3: of happier times. And so here we are five years later.

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Speaker 3: We are in the middle of a nostalgia boom. Unlike

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Speaker 3: any other Metallicas just played to fifty odd thousand people

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Speaker 3: at Eden Park. Lenny Kravitz just filled Spark Arena tonight,

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Speaker 3: Tool play the first of two shows. It's Spark Arena.

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Speaker 3: They're sold out. The Pixies start tomorrow night. They're in

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Speaker 3: town for four shows, most of those are sold out.

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Speaker 3: On top of that, Garbage are playing in December. I

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Speaker 3: could name the acts like that have dis announce shows

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Speaker 3: like Pulp are coming back, Deftnes just announced a show.

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Speaker 3: These nineties acts are reforming that they're they're they're out

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Speaker 3: onto They're playing bigger venues than they ever have before.

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Speaker 2: On mass Oasis ac DC in Australia. Like they're just

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Speaker 2: the tic tic tech tic tic right.

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Speaker 3: It's it's pretty crazy to think about how big and

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Speaker 3: how fast this happened. It's it's it's kind of unprecedented.

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Speaker 3: I do feel for younger acts who can't get a

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Speaker 3: looking at the moment. Yes, is the biggest trend in

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Speaker 3: music right now. It's nostalgia and promoters are out there.

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Speaker 3: They're pushing other acts to reform because there's money to

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Speaker 3: be made.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. See, this is the thing. I wonder if part

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Speaker 2: of this has also been driven by the streaming music age,

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Speaker 2: in that we know that artists who are putting their

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Speaker 2: music up on Spotify getting like thousands of cents the

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Speaker 2: dollar or whatever it is that they're getting. They're not

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Speaker 2: making money out of recording and selling the actual music

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Speaker 2: in the same way that they did pre streaming, right,

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Speaker 2: And so the way that they make a lot of

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Speaker 2: money is by touring, and it's by doing big shows.

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Speaker 3: And by selling a lot of expensive merd.

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Speaker 2: Exactly exactly, and so from the artist's perspective as well,

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Speaker 2: So from the audience partifically, everyone loves, you know, listening

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Speaker 2: to the music you listen to when you were twenty

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Speaker 2: three or whatever. But actually from an artist's perspective as well,

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Speaker 2: being like, well, if we go and just do the

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Speaker 2: music we already know. We don't have to write new stuff.

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Speaker 2: We don't have to go and record new stuff. We

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Speaker 2: just you know, have a couple of practice sessions, get

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Speaker 2: the show nice and tight, take it on the road,

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Speaker 2: and way you go.

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Speaker 3: I would counter that with that those big stadium shows

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Speaker 3: are not easy shows. This is true that you know,

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Speaker 3: Metallica played a thrash metal set, old school eighties thrash metal.

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Speaker 3: Most of it, and that is incredibly hard to play,

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Speaker 3: especially when you're in your sixties. I'd point to Oasis like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: they played their first two albums. That was probably a

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Speaker 3: little easier. But yeah, I think.

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Speaker 2: It's still a lot. I mean when you're doing for

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Speaker 2: some of these big groups, doing night after night after

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Speaker 2: night after night, you know.

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Speaker 3: In your sixties. Yeah, but the money is there. I

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Speaker 3: mean you saw it at the Metallica pop up store downtown.

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Speaker 3: The queues were around the block. They were selling ninety

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Speaker 3: dollars posters, one hundred and sixty dollars single, it's five

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Speaker 3: hundred and fifty dollars, cooler bags. It was wild and

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Speaker 3: people were how much like a twenty dollar picnic hamper

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Speaker 3: with chilled lining was five hundred and fifty dollars with

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Speaker 3: Metallica branded on it. I'm not joking, that's that's real. Well,

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Speaker 3: people buying it, Yeah, skateboard decks, there was books, there

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Speaker 3: were board games. There were a simple single canned beer

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Speaker 3: yeah was I think sixty dollars, Oh my god. And

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Speaker 3: people were walking out with boxes and stuff. So the

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Speaker 3: money's there. I think, you know, you're going to see

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Speaker 3: a little bit more of this. There are acts that

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Speaker 3: haven't reformed or haven't toured in a while, and the

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Speaker 3: money will be there. I'm talking about Eminem, I'm talking

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Speaker 3: about the White Stripes who just got inducted in the

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Speaker 3: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, getting Meghan Jack White

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Speaker 3: back together. For sure, the spy skills haven't been on

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Speaker 3: the road. Imagine the spy skills to it.

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Speaker 2: But it's always just will posh spice do it right?

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Speaker 2: But I mean the money's on the table.

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Speaker 3: There is that. I also think though there's a younger

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Speaker 3: group of artists, they're sitting there there waiting to take

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Speaker 3: over from these guys. This has a time limit on it,

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Speaker 3: right This is a very particular moment in time where

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Speaker 3: everyone wants this comfort music post COVID. I think there

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Speaker 3: are acts like Lord and Sabrina Carpenter and Charlie XCX

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Speaker 3: that are just sitting there. They're building up their own

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Speaker 3: nostalgia right now. I think they're in that kind of

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Speaker 3: future nostalgia era, if you like. And that's hopefully they'll

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Speaker 3: they'll sweep the metallicas and the oasises out of the wind.

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Speaker 3: They'll be filling stadiums I reckon pretty soon.

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Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, like sooner than we think. They won't have

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Speaker 2: to wait twenty years kind of.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hopefully we don't have to go through another pandemic

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Speaker 3: and I don't have to call in from my bedroom gym.

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Speaker 2: Yes, well, look you were one right the first time,

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Speaker 2: so great call on that front. And look, if EM

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Speaker 2: and M or a couple of those other groups were

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Speaker 2: to come and do a tour, I would be very pleased. Indeed,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, they have you know, willing Sello, willing buyer.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Chris, Thank you, Chris Chrisholtz a

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Speaker 2: music reviewer. Of course, you can find them on substack.

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Speaker 2: His substack is boiler Room.

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