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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Tam podcast

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Speaker 3: Matriki Morina, Good morning and happy Mataiki. Welcome to News

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Speaker 3: Talk Seed be Jack time with you through to twelve

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Speaker 3: o'clock this long Matariki weekend. We have a fantastic feature

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Speaker 3: interview for you after ten o'clock this morning. Just imagine

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Speaker 3: this for a moment. Imagine being an escape artist being

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Speaker 3: tethered to a sixty cagy block of concrete, submerged in

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Speaker 3: an aquarium, surrounded by rays, fish and sharks. The TV

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Speaker 3: cameras are rolling, You've got various locks, You've got a

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Speaker 3: to that concrete undone. You're trying not to panic, You're

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Speaker 3: trying to hold your breath. You're trying to stay calm

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Speaker 3: as the world watches. What do you do? That is

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Speaker 3: the question I will be posing to our feature interview

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Speaker 3: after ten this morning. He is I reckon Australasia's answer

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Speaker 3: to Harry Houdini. His name is Costantino and he's going

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Speaker 3: to be with us very soon, so I cannot wait

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Speaker 3: for that before ten. If you're looking for a bit

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Speaker 3: a little bit of me. We'll share that with you

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Speaker 3: very shortly. Right now, it's eight minutes past nine.

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Speaker 4: Jack Team.

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Speaker 3: I really don't know what he said at the end

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Speaker 3: said either. That was it, that was at the moment,

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Speaker 3: the line, the death knell, and the crazy thing about

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Speaker 3: the words that probably best defined the twenty twenty four

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Speaker 3: presidential election debate is that Donald Trump wasn't blustering or

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Speaker 3: lying or even being mean. He was being honest. I

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Speaker 3: don't think anyone who had seen Joe Biden's attempt at

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Speaker 3: an answer honestly disagreed. Election debates are rarely significantly consequential.

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Speaker 3: You know, they might give a candidate or a party

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Speaker 3: or you know, some choice clips for social media or

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Speaker 3: campaign advertisements. But as much as the Democrats are in

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Speaker 3: damage control today playing down the significance of their candidate's

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Speaker 3: performance last night, this will go down in history as

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Speaker 3: the moment that lost Joe Biden the presidency, the moment

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Speaker 3: where it became absolutely crystal clear for millions of people

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Speaker 3: watching live and the billions of people watching the subsequent

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Speaker 3: or Joe Biden will be defeated. The crazy thing to

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Speaker 3: remember is that everything about the debate was played on

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Speaker 3: his terms. This was the Democrat's big play to dispel

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Speaker 3: the criticisms of his competence and energy. Joe Biden took

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Speaker 3: a full week to prepare, a week as president to

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Speaker 3: prepare for that performance. His team requested rules around the

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Speaker 3: microphone being cut off to stop Donald Trump from interrupting,

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Speaker 3: And yet with all of the prep all of the resources,

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Speaker 3: elderly man. If the goal was to prove the president

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Speaker 3: It was a stunning own goal. Trump didn't damage Biden.

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Speaker 3: He didn't need to. Biden damaged Biden. And if you

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Speaker 3: out of it at a simple human level, it was sad.

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Speaker 3: I've covered the last three US elections, from Biden's vice

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Speaker 3: personally that age alone is no reason for someone not

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Speaker 3: and vigor most certainly is age. Isn't the concern Competency is.

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Speaker 3: I've taken time to get to this point. Like twelve

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Speaker 3: able to dispel the criticisms and the noise. Now, comparing

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Speaker 3: that debate performance with his debates from just four years ago,

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Speaker 3: I cannot see a way in which he recovers his campaign.

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Speaker 3: stand down, they must do it, and do it now.

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Speaker 3: If you step back, there are maybe a couple of

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Speaker 3: in twenty seventeen when Andrew Little stepped aside and Jacinder

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Speaker 3: possible to imagine a world in which a new Democrat

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Speaker 3: Karmela Harris. And look, even if a new candidate didn't

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Speaker 3: that which they're heading towards right now. It's simple, as

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Speaker 3: far as I'm concerned, either Joe by and stands aside

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Speaker 3: It's interesting I see Joe Biden's out there today saying, oh, yep,

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Speaker 3: it's true. I don't quite have the same energy for

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Speaker 3: there saying, oh, look, you know we've all had bad nights. Nah. Nah,

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Speaker 3: this is in another stratosphere altogether. I'm sorry, I just

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Speaker 3: I cannot see a world in which that performance is

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Speaker 3: going to be recoverable before November. But let me know

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Speaker 3: your thoughts. Very shortly. We're going to catch up with

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Speaker 3: for Mataliki weekend tonight. Right now, it's fourteen minutes past nine.

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Speaker 3: Kevin Milon will kick us off for our Saturday Morning

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Speaker 4: No better way to kick off your weekend than with Jack.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Team and bepwured on co dot

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for your messages, he pouring in Jack.

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Speaker 3: I'm an American, I've never felt so incredibly embarrassed and

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Speaker 3: distraught from my fellow country. But what a catastrophic debate.

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Speaker 3: I am all the more grateful to be living in

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Speaker 3: God's own says Lizzie. Thanks Lizzie, best opening monologue ever.

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Speaker 3: Jack totally agreed Jack. The scariest thing about Biden's performance

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Speaker 3: be incapable of doing his job. I mean, yeah, that's concerning.

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Speaker 3: The thing is I reckon. This is a really good

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Speaker 3: argument to be made that Biden's record as a legislator

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Speaker 3: don't think anyone watching Last Night would have had much

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Speaker 3: let alone the next four and a half years. Honestly, Jack,

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Speaker 3: it was a poor result for Biden. But how can

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Speaker 3: you say Trump didn't lie? You're dreaming. No, I'm not

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Speaker 3: saying that, Dallas. Trump absolutely lied, and of course he lied.

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Speaker 3: But isn't it interesting that the focus today is not

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Speaker 3: on Trump's line? The focus is entirely on Biden. What

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, he didn't lie. And there was that one line,

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Speaker 3: think he did either, because I'm personally watching it, I

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Speaker 3: had zero idea what Biden was saying. Anyway, Ninety ninety

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Speaker 3: Killed Kevin happy Matadikiya.

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Speaker 5: Mana White here, Mariky. I thought you're opening monologue, as

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Speaker 5: was the listener. But excellent. Yeah, I just I watched

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Speaker 3: I mean this, there's scrambling today. The deams are scrambling today.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I just I just there's no way

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Speaker 5: For me like that in the first place, who was.

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Speaker 3: Biden Team Biden agreed to it. They were the ones

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Speaker 3: who said, yeah, let's do it. So they dictated the terms.

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Speaker 3: They said, we want to have a microphone that gets

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Speaker 3: week's prep. Yes, I'm sorry as a fiesco. So yeah, anyway,

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Speaker 3: it's going to be very interesting to see what happens

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Speaker 3: you know that they're they're annual conference where they're oh there,

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Speaker 3: know what, actually I'm gonna I'm gonna be the one

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Speaker 5: But yeah, it's just surrounding, isn't it, Jack, that that

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Speaker 3: Oh they do know, They've got they've got I mean,

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Speaker 3: Because the president in America is all powerful, and if

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Speaker 3: What they need is for people to take him aside

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Speaker 3: and say, look, you are threatening your legacy in the

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Speaker 3: like the kind of state of democratic norms around the world.

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Speaker 3: And and you know, for everything that you've achieved in life,

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Speaker 3: you are going to do more damage than all the

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Speaker 3: good you've done if you stand and lose. And I

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Speaker 3: don't know who's gonna who's going to make that call,

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Speaker 3: but anyway, be very interesting to watch how this, how

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Speaker 3: this unfolds And Kevin, you were intrigued by another headline

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Speaker 5: Yeah, my headline of the week was news Herem's biggest

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Speaker 5: time Rocket Labs better back Matt or Nick Mowbray, the

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Speaker 5: Toy Entrepreneurs, graphics Maestro Sirian Taylor. No, none of them,

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Speaker 5: The biggest brain they were thinking about was Burma, the

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Speaker 5: Auckland Zoos elephant, New Zealand's last remaining elephant. It's considered

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Speaker 5: unfair that Burma should have to live as a lone

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Speaker 5: elephant any longer. He's off to Manato's Fari Park and

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Speaker 5: South Australia to join two other Asian elephants. I have

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Speaker 5: no issue with this, the Animal's Welfare's countermount. But it's

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Speaker 5: sad also, isn't it for New Zealand kids that they'll

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Speaker 5: no longer have an elephant to wonder at? Maybe we

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Speaker 1: Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday Morning with Jack team

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Speaker 3: Maria agrees with me, she says on the Texas Morning Jack,

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Speaker 3: You're totally right, Biden has to go. Paul's got an

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Speaker 9: So I can guarantee they won't be having Joe Biden

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Speaker 9: for their pregame speech today. Nah, that would take about

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Speaker 9: See, is it one of those anomalies that some of

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Speaker 9: another sail out to the sevening at Nunt Smart Sonny

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Speaker 3: I feel like Warriors fans are given an advantage when

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Speaker 9: Isn't it great for younger Warriors fans they learn mass at.

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Speaker 8: The same this is it exactly as I got.

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Speaker 3: There's a public service element. So instead of telling me

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Speaker 9: That's a very good question. Hard to put the finger On.

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Speaker 9: I know why Scott Barrett is because of his crusader's

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Speaker 9: He's extremely popular. You only had to look at the

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Speaker 3: I just love in the football this Our entire house

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very good, thanks Sev. Get you so in that

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Speaker 4: Jack.

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Speaker 3: There's only one American born Democrat on the planet who

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Speaker 3: could pull a win out of the bag. Michelle Obama. Intelligent, young, strong, attractive, happy,

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Speaker 3: That's not the main point to come out of that debate.

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Speaker 3: This is Dua Lipa, who is of course headlining Glaston

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Speaker 3: picks this weekend. Hey Francesca, good morning. Let's start off

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Speaker 3: us about Inside oh, let's have a listen to Inside

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Speaker 3: Out too. This is joy coming you.

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Speaker 4: Live in Riley's mind, our little girls growing.

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Speaker 3: Up so fast it should be nothing but smooth sailing

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Speaker 3: from Hello. Well, I'm anxiety.

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Speaker 6: Where can I put my stuff?

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Speaker 10: A new emotion? Sorry, we wanted to make such a

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Speaker 10: good first impression.

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Speaker 4: What do you mean we?

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Speaker 11: I'm envy?

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Speaker 4: That's on we that's embarrassment.

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Speaker 12: You're welcome to headquarters embarrassment.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that is sorry. That is inside Out too. So

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Speaker 3: that's showing in cinemas and time for the school holidays certainly.

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Speaker 13: And so this is of course the sequel to the

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Speaker 13: twenty fifteen smash It, which we all loved because it

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Speaker 13: was original and clever and filled with humor and heart,

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Speaker 13: and it impacted affected everybody. Everybody sort of took an

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Speaker 13: emotional hit from that film. My daughter saw that film

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Speaker 13: when she was sick, possibly a little bit too young

449
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Speaker 13: to understand it all, but going back to see this

450
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Speaker 13: film at age fifteen, she was just nodding along, going, oh, yep.

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Speaker 13: Because I think any child who's been through puberty and

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Speaker 13: understands the concept of the renovation of the brain will

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Speaker 13: understand what's happening here to Riley, who's just turned thirteen,

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Speaker 13: and the control the skin side Riley's mind gets handed

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Speaker 13: over to new emotions, so anger and disgust and fear

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Speaker 13: and joy and sadness they're all still there, but they

457
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Speaker 13: hand over the console to anxiety, embarrassment, envy, on we

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Speaker 13: and her French accent, which I just love, and these

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Speaker 13: new emotions kind of take over and we go through puberty.

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Speaker 14: I really enjoyed this.

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Speaker 13: It's a delight to be back with this team. This

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Speaker 13: film doesn't have that same of emotional hits the original,

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Speaker 13: possibly because we're in familiar territory. We've sort of been

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Speaker 13: here before. I watched this and thoughts they've done a

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Speaker 13: very good job of appealing to young, younger, you know, kids,

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Speaker 13: which obviously is the point. It simplifies things at times,

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Speaker 13: But then there's just some lovely other gags which appealed

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Speaker 13: to adults who maybe had to deal with children going

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Speaker 13: through puberty. I think probably the most important thing to

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Speaker 13: know about this film is it is a pecks our film, Jack,

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Speaker 13: So while we're dealing with puberty, we Riley gets a pimple,

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Speaker 13: but not her period. She has friendship issues, but she

473
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Speaker 13: doesn't get crushes on boys and it all gets messy

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Speaker 13: with romance stuff like that. So they've pepped it.

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Speaker 9: Still quite.

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Speaker 15: Sweet, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 13: It's still very pexi and sweet and trying to take

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Speaker 13: this step it the sort of story and advance her on.

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Speaker 13: And I think it's really going to work because, as

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Speaker 13: I said, there's lots of kids like my daughter who

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Speaker 13: saw the first one have now grown up and gone

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Speaker 13: through uh huh oh yeah when you remember anxiety coming

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Speaker 13: in yes, so you know it's a delight to have

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Speaker 13: them back. As I said, it doesn't quite have that

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Speaker 13: emotional part of the food film, but I think we'll

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Speaker 13: still be hugely popular in tolerdon Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Nice. Okay, that's inside out too, So that's showing at

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Speaker 3: the movies showing on Netflix. Let's have a listen to

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Speaker 3: a family affair.

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Speaker 4: This is madness. Hey, yeah, this is your mom and

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Speaker 4: your boss.

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Speaker 12: Do you hate it's weird?

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Speaker 11: Mom?

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Speaker 4: Sorry? If you can hear me, name the movie. I

495
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Speaker 4: want a Teen Choice Award for it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, tell us about a family of.

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Speaker 13: Okay, so romances have been would quite a romentous coming

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Speaker 13: at us? Yeah, we had and has away with the

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Speaker 13: idea of you. We've had Glen Powell's hit Man, which

500
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Speaker 13: is playing on Netflix, which is kind of a bit quirky.

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Speaker 13: We've had the Tennis love Triangle with Challenges, and we

502
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Speaker 13: had some fun. We had some action comedy with the

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Speaker 13: Fallout guy, and I sort of thought, okay, cool going

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Speaker 13: into a family said pretty good paths Zach from Nicole Kedman,

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Speaker 13: Joey King, Kathy Bates. I thought, great, this was going

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Speaker 13: to be some more sort of you know, decent escaped

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Speaker 13: for some stant sort of romance to kind of enjoy. Okay,

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Speaker 13: to be honest with you, it's just a little lackluster.

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00:28:20,133 --> 00:28:25,013
Speaker 13: It's a little bit lifeless, pretty pretty familiar plot whereby

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Speaker 13: Joey King, she is an assistant to a Hollywood star

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Speaker 13: played by Zach Efron, who does a very good job

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Speaker 13: of kind of taking the mickey out of Highwood stars

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Speaker 13: and how they don't live in the real world, and

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Speaker 13: he falls for her mother played by Nicole Kidman, who

515
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Speaker 13: is sixteen years older than Haman, a very well known writer,

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Speaker 13: but her husband died eleven years ago and she sort

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Speaker 13: of presently got back out into the dating Wilson's then,

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Speaker 13: so you've got all these very sort of familiar tropes,

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00:28:52,013 --> 00:28:54,813
Speaker 13: tropes here Jack familiar kind of story and off we go.

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Speaker 13: A lot of physical comedy in here. There are a

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Speaker 13: few laughs, but I don't think the chemistry was quite

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Speaker 13: there between Zack Fron and Nicole Caedman and just yeah,

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Speaker 13: just fout. A little lackluster, a little lifeless.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, but you know what, it's a long weekend.

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Speaker 13: If you need to slug it up and just want

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Speaker 13: some wine entertainment.

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Speaker 3: Listen, see you could be an option. Okay, very good,

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Francesca. So that is a family

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Speaker 3: affair that's on Netflix. The first film the pixarl One

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Speaker 3: is inside Out too, that is showing at movie theaters,

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Speaker 3: and of course all the details for those films will

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Speaker 3: be up on our website Newstalk sidb dot co dot

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Speaker 3: mzed Ford slash Jack Hi. Jack says, Mike bad debate,

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Speaker 3: but Biden just mopped the floor with Trump and a

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Speaker 3: brilliant speech in Atlanta. There's still all to play for. Well,

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Speaker 3: I agree that there's still all to play for, but

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Speaker 3: I totally disagree that today matters.

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Speaker 14: Mike.

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Speaker 3: Last night matted the debate, matted. That was the moment,

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Speaker 3: And sorry, Biden, utterly blew it. He completely failed, and yeah,

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Speaker 3: it doesn't matter how good he is today in front

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Speaker 3: of a crowd of his supporters. Last night was the

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Speaker 3: moment that mattered. Ninety two ninety two is the text

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Speaker 3: number if you want to flick us the message. This morning,

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Speaker 3: a delicious recipe for self sourcing banana and pecan pudding

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Speaker 3: for you in a couple the minutes on News Dogs.

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Speaker 1: EDB Saturday Mornings with Jack Day keeping the conversation going

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Speaker 1: through the weekend with bpure dot cot on in here

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Speaker 1: for high quality supplements.

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Speaker 3: US fourteen to ten on News Dogs EDB Cook Mickey

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Speaker 3: Wix is here this morning, killed.

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Speaker 6: A KYOLDA good morning Jack.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, it's I'm pleased to hear that you

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Speaker 3: are making the most of this holiday as you always

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Speaker 3: do by setting up in Paradise this weekend.

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Speaker 16: Look, i am I'm a little fan of Camp Evans.

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Speaker 16: I never was, but then COVID came around. One of

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Speaker 16: the great things about that was that THHL, who owns

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Speaker 16: all the campas, they had to hire them out to

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Speaker 16: New Zealanders. Oh yeah for three day minimums, which it

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Speaker 16: never is it's usually five.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 16: This is not an advertisement, no, no, no, and they

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Speaker 16: were sort of fifty bucks a day, whereas usually there

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Speaker 16: are a lot more in summer.

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Speaker 6: They are way beyond my reach. But at the moment,

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Speaker 6: I'm away, sitting right at a campground, right.

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Speaker 16: On top of Mount Monganui Beach, and it is beautiful,

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Speaker 16: and I love my creature comforts. So I love the

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Speaker 16: idea of camping, just like the idea of I like

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Speaker 16: the idea of liking horses, but I don't, And.

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Speaker 6: So this is great.

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Speaker 3: I get to I have a little kitchen, yeah you.

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Speaker 6: Know, and I have running water, hot and cold, and

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Speaker 6: a comfy bed.

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Speaker 3: So but you have all the benefits of camping, but

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Speaker 3: without the possibility of a leaking fly, the leaking.

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Speaker 16: Fly, the chili bin that even though you took a

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Speaker 16: million ice packs away, everything is still wet.

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Speaker 6: And yeah, yeah, yeah, blah blah blah.

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Speaker 3: Sounds paradise.

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Speaker 6: How can we not be loving this weather?

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Speaker 3: Well, speaking of creature comforts, this morning, you have a

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Speaker 3: creature comfort treaty dessert for us I do.

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Speaker 16: I have a self sourcing banana and pecan pudding, which

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Speaker 16: I'm going to admit to the fact that I actually

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Speaker 16: bought a slice of something very similar on my way

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Speaker 16: down to the mount and I we heated it up

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Speaker 16: in a microwave or sun with custom gelato. But this

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Speaker 16: one you can make at home. This pudding is gooey,

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Speaker 16: it's caramel. It's got this beautiful light sort of bananarees sponge.

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Speaker 16: It's amazing, super.

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Speaker 6: Easy to make. Jack throw your oven one hundred.

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Speaker 16: And seventy degrees celsius butter a nice, big, large ovenproof dish.

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Speaker 16: There's no cooking for one year. This serves about six

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Speaker 16: or eight people. Soak some dates for half about fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 3: It's some boiling hot water.

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Speaker 16: I've used half a cup of dates, and once those

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Speaker 16: kind of soften up a little bit, you then drain

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Speaker 16: them off and blend them in a food processor. Add

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Speaker 16: two bananas too, nice right bananas, and blend all of

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Speaker 16: that until it's well mixed. If you don't have a

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Speaker 16: food processor, you could arguably do it on a chopping board.

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Speaker 16: Just chop, chop, chopp til it's all a big mash.

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Speaker 16: That's what you're after. And then in a big bowl,

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Speaker 16: whisk in two eggs, some brown sugar, and I've got about.

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Speaker 6: A cup, but I think you could probably take.

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Speaker 16: That down to about three quarters even two thirds of

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Speaker 16: a cup without that affecting the bake. So wisk off

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Speaker 16: those that sugar in the butter and that becomes quite thick,

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Speaker 16: light and fluffy. Adds the melted butter eighty grams of that,

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Speaker 16: and then throw in your dat and banana puree and

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Speaker 16: mix that till it's combined, and then fold in one

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Speaker 16: and a half cups of flour. That's got three taste

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Speaker 16: teaspoons of baking powder. You can again and cut that

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Speaker 16: back to but I quite like this with a good rise.

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Speaker 16: Half a teaspoon of cinnamon possibly in there, and seventy

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Speaker 16: grams of pecans. For a cheaper alternative, you could use

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Speaker 16: walnuts of work in there. Scrape that batter in der

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Speaker 16: grease dish, and then kind of like that old chocolate

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Speaker 16: self saucing pudding in a jug or even in the

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Speaker 16: bowl that you just mixed everything in. We're going to

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Speaker 16: do two cups of boiling water from the jug, about

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Speaker 16: half to three quarters of a cup of brown sugar

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Speaker 16: and one teaspoon of corn flour and seventy grams of

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Speaker 16: chopped up butter, and stir all that together and your

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Speaker 16: butter will melt in the boiling water and just carefully

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Speaker 16: pour it over.

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Speaker 6: You about it it really feels like too much?

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Speaker 2: You like?

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Speaker 3: Yup?

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Speaker 16: Bake it off for forty minutes or so until the

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Speaker 16: top is set and that cake Claire will be cooked

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Speaker 16: through and eat it sort of with I don't know,

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Speaker 16: cream ice cream, trusted all three.

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Speaker 3: There's always the best, isn't it? The challenging that trying

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Speaker 3: to decide which which other desserts to have your dessert with.

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Speaker 6: I know, I know, I know, and so look, this

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Speaker 6: is a real treat thing.

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Speaker 16: But I just think with a long week end front

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Speaker 16: Zealanders in some parts of the country really need a treat.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, you know, take it for someone else.

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Speaker 16: If you don't eat too many sickly things, and take

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Speaker 16: it for them and take it to them and say

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Speaker 16: happy holidays.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so good. So do I ask you you're

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Speaker 3: going to be taking a bit of a midwinter dip.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I took one yesterday. Oh an East Coast beach

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Speaker 16: for me is a real treat. Living on the wild

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Speaker 16: West coast is may I'm sorry, Oh yeah, of course.

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Speaker 16: Oh it's so great that white sand that those shells

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Speaker 6: So yes, yeah, after I've spoken with you. That is

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Speaker 6: my little treat. I shall go and take a very

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Speaker 6: lovely refreshing.

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Speaker 3: Oh how good, hey, thank you so much. NICKI go

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666
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Speaker 3: are a lot of big Selendion fans out there. If

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Speaker 3: I'm totally honest, I do not include myself and that populace. Nonetheless,

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Speaker 8: Jack.

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Speaker 3: There is really only one realistic Democrat candidate that, in

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Speaker 3: my opinion is Gavin Newsom. Very articulate, looks like a president,

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Speaker 3: says Scott Jack. My friends in the US all think

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Speaker 3: that Gavin Newsom, the governor of California, is being ready

676
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Speaker 3: to subthern for Joe Biden. Orchestrating this successfully would be challenging. However,

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Speaker 3: I agree that Gavin Newsom is super charismatic, that he's

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Speaker 3: really good in front of the cameras he goes on

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Speaker 3: Fox News. He defends himself really well. I think he

680
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Speaker 3: would be outstanding in debates against Donald Trump. I think

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Speaker 3: the problem with California Governor Gavin Newsom is that he's

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Speaker 3: the California governor in that California is a state that

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Speaker 3: people have a lot of strong thoughts and feelings about,

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Speaker 3: and his record in California is a little bit questionable.

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Speaker 3: Maybe Nonetheless, yep, I think he would be one of

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Speaker 3: several good possible candidates to take over from Joe Biden.

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Speaker 3: If indeed that happens, It is going to be fascinating

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Speaker 3: to see what happens in the next next week or so.

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Speaker 3: I reckon once the initial surge of analysis from that

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Speaker 3: debate ends and the Democrats actually decide whether or not

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Speaker 3: they can continue, it is going to be really intriguing

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Speaker 3: to watch seven to ten on News. Doalgs edb.

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Speaker 1: Giving you the inside scoop on All You Need to

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Speaker 3: Edb There are two objects that should never be in

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Speaker 3: the same room together, Joe Biden's thumb and the red

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Speaker 3: button for the nuclear codes. Yeah, I mean this is

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Speaker 3: this is a really good point. This is one of

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Speaker 3: the problems. If Biden was to come out and say, ah,

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Speaker 3: you know, I am going to stand out, I'm not

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Speaker 3: going to run for president for the next four years.

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Speaker 3: What does that say about the next six months or so?

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Speaker 3: Because remember that whoever wins in November has to wait

705
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Speaker 3: until January as well, until they're actually sworn in as presidents.

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Speaker 3: Oh what a fiesco a fiasco of their own making.

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Speaker 3: It has to be said, thank you for that. Text

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Speaker 3: ninety two ninety two is our text number if you

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Speaker 3: want to get in touch after ten o'clock this morning. Ah,

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Speaker 3: a fascinating interview for you with Cozantino. He was named

711
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Speaker 3: the International Magician of the Year. But as well as

712
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Speaker 3: his conjuring and magician trick, he is a really keen

713
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Speaker 3: escape artist and that's really what I want to ask about. Hey,

714
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Speaker 3: I reckon. He is kind of like the Austrolasian version

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Speaker 3: of Harry Houdini. He says that Houdini was a real

716
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Speaker 3: inspiration for him, and so he's always doing those crazy

717
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Speaker 3: kind of stunts where he locks himself underwater with various

718
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Speaker 3: padlocks that he has to pick before he runs out

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Speaker 3: of air. So he's going to be with us right

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Speaker 3: after the ten o'clock news this morning, ahead of his

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Speaker 3: New Zealand tour. Cannot wait for that. It is almost

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Speaker 3: ten o'clock though it is Saturday morning. For this Mataiki Weekend,

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Speaker 3: I'm Jack Tayman.

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Speaker 1: This is news Dog ZEDV, A cracking way to start

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Speaker 4: News Talk said, be.

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Speaker 3: In a good morning. You've a Jack Taime on Newstalks.

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Speaker 3: He'd be this Mataniki weekend through the midday. An ultimate

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Speaker 3: master of illusion, Cozanino exploded into the world of magic

731
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Speaker 3: on Australia's Got Talent back in twenty eleven and has

732
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Speaker 3: since wild audiences around the world on stage and on

733
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Speaker 3: screen with his tricks and incredible death defying escape acts.

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Speaker 3: Cosentino has earned titles like International Magician of the Year

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Speaker 3: no Biggie, and he's here today to pull back the

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Speaker 3: curtain on the magic scene. Ahead of his New Zealand tour.

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Speaker 3: He old a good morning, good morning, great to see

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Speaker 3: him for having me seeing you in person, So take

739
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Speaker 3: us right back. How does one get into this kind

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Speaker 3: of business stupidity?

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Speaker 12: I think looking back now, my gosh, No. I started

742
00:40:18,613 --> 00:40:20,773
Speaker 12: when I was twelve. I was a very shy kid,

743
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Speaker 12: believe it or not, very introverted, had a lot of

744
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Speaker 12: learning difficulties, didn't learn to read until I was twelve.

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Speaker 12: My mother was a school principal. She's going mad and crazy,

746
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Speaker 12: so she has this bright idea. She says, I'll take

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Speaker 12: him to the local library. For all the kids listening

748
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Speaker 12: out there, that's a place where they have books because

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Speaker 12: now you just go to Google, right doesn't exist, or

750
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Speaker 12: it does, but yeah, So she takes me to the library,

751
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Speaker 12: and that's the last place a Q you can't read, obviously,

752
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Speaker 12: really wants to be. So I'm looking at books with

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Speaker 12: pictures and I stumbled, by coincidento across a book called

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Speaker 12: the Encyclopaedia of Magic. I found that out later on.

755
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Speaker 12: But the reason why I opened it. It had these

756
00:40:59,973 --> 00:41:04,293
Speaker 12: beautiful pictures and posters or famous magicians, and to me,

757
00:41:04,413 --> 00:41:06,253
Speaker 12: they look like comic They predate comic books, but they

758
00:41:06,373 --> 00:41:08,853
Speaker 12: look like comic books. They're beautifully illustrated. If you've ever

759
00:41:08,893 --> 00:41:12,173
Speaker 12: seen these vaudevillian posts, they're gorgeous. So the book's open.

760
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Speaker 12: My mother sees open. She thinks, great, he's interested in

761
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Speaker 12: the book. I'm just looking at the picture and there's

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Speaker 12: a photo, like a drawing of a man in all

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Speaker 12: his handcuffs and chains. And I said to my mother,

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Speaker 12: what's this. Who's this? And she said, that's the great

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Speaker 12: Harry Houdini. And she reads his barline, which says, under

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Speaker 12: the post and nothing on earth can hold Heudeni a prisoner.

767
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Speaker 12: And I ask her what does that mean and she says, well,

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Speaker 12: you know, nobody can stop Eudini, and he would escape

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Speaker 12: from handcuffs and chains and people would lock you in

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Speaker 12: jails around the world, and people thought that he could

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Speaker 12: melt through them and de materialize. And I'm like, oh, wow,

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Speaker 12: he's a superhero. He's like in the comic books. And

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Speaker 12: my mother says, yeah, but he's not make believe, he's real.

774
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Speaker 12: So that was fascinating. Anyway, we worried a book. We

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Speaker 12: take it home. She reads these stories and adventures to me, escapades.

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Speaker 12: I'm very fascinated about Houdini, Howard Thurston, Dante. And in

777
00:41:58,933 --> 00:42:01,213
Speaker 12: the back of the book there's magic tricks. But to

778
00:42:01,373 --> 00:42:05,493
Speaker 12: learn the tricks, you had to really analyze the wording.

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00:42:05,853 --> 00:42:07,893
Speaker 12: So you you read the description of the trick, what

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Speaker 12: it's supposed to look like to the audience, and then

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Speaker 12: you read the method or the secret, and it says

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Speaker 12: things like grab a packet of cards, put it in

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Speaker 12: your left hand. This is called mechanics script. So you

784
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Speaker 12: look at the little illustration, you go, oh, okay, and

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Speaker 12: then says put your left little pinky in this position,

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Speaker 12: and you go okay, And then you write indexing. So

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00:42:23,053 --> 00:42:26,933
Speaker 12: by breaking down each word and analyzing it, I slowly

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Speaker 12: learned to read. And so it was the first time

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Speaker 12: that I was engaged and connected because before that, when

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Speaker 12: you're a child and things are difficult, you kind of

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Speaker 12: you push it. I don't want to do it. I'm

792
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Speaker 12: not good at it. Yeah, So I love learning these tricks,

793
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Speaker 12: and I slowly learned to read. And then I show

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Speaker 12: my father my first trick, which was making a little

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Speaker 12: coin vanish and he's a structural engineer, and he said

796
00:42:51,813 --> 00:42:54,093
Speaker 12: to me he was a genius. Yeah, I'm twelve and

797
00:42:54,293 --> 00:42:58,213
Speaker 12: he he makes bridges and buildings stand up using mathematics.

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Speaker 12: That's you know. So this coin vanishes and my father says,

799
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Speaker 12: how did you do it? And all of a sudden,

800
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Speaker 12: there's a transfer of power because I can do something

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Speaker 12: that my father cannot. So that's very empowering to a

802
00:43:11,493 --> 00:43:15,373
Speaker 12: kid who is struggling. Who is it has to stay

803
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Speaker 12: and at lunch time to do extracurriculum. Who's taken to

804
00:43:18,093 --> 00:43:20,213
Speaker 12: all these specialists because you couldn't read because they thought, oh, mak,

805
00:43:20,213 --> 00:43:21,813
Speaker 12: there's something wrong with his hearing, or you can't see

806
00:43:21,853 --> 00:43:24,413
Speaker 12: properly or whatever it might have been. And so now

807
00:43:24,573 --> 00:43:28,093
Speaker 12: I'm in control. And so all the original tricks that

808
00:43:28,173 --> 00:43:30,253
Speaker 12: I performed had to do with control and power. Like

809
00:43:30,293 --> 00:43:32,293
Speaker 12: I would take a five dollars none and make it ten.

810
00:43:32,413 --> 00:43:35,053
Speaker 12: I would eat fire, I made birds appear, creating life.

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Speaker 12: So that's how it started. And it became this obsession

812
00:43:37,773 --> 00:43:40,453
Speaker 12: of being in control, having that kind of power because

813
00:43:40,493 --> 00:43:42,133
Speaker 12: I had I didn't have any of it. And do

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Speaker 12: you think it was addictive?

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Speaker 3: Yes, you know, having all of all of a sudden

816
00:43:45,973 --> 00:43:48,493
Speaker 3: feeling that that transfer of power. It's oh man, I

817
00:43:48,533 --> 00:43:49,813
Speaker 3: want I want to feel that again and.

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Speaker 12: Again correct and the better you get, the more powerful

819
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Speaker 12: you get. It sounds like some kind of Jedi thing,

820
00:43:54,893 --> 00:43:57,853
Speaker 12: doesn't it. But really that's what it was about. As

821
00:43:57,853 --> 00:44:00,933
Speaker 12: an adult. Now it's not about that anymore. But as

822
00:44:00,933 --> 00:44:03,533
Speaker 12: a child, yes, I'm told when to wake up, what

823
00:44:03,693 --> 00:44:06,653
Speaker 12: to eat, when to sleep, what to do at school, sport,

824
00:44:06,693 --> 00:44:08,493
Speaker 12: I have to play, blah blah blah blah. And now

825
00:44:08,533 --> 00:44:11,333
Speaker 12: all of a sudden, I'm this little performer and I'm saying,

826
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Speaker 12: you know, pick a card and I'm going to read

827
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Speaker 12: your mind.

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Speaker 3: So do you define yourself with any one thing except

829
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Speaker 3: for performer? Because it strikes me that you have this

830
00:44:19,653 --> 00:44:24,453
Speaker 3: real blend of talents and passions. Yes, you've got the

831
00:44:24,693 --> 00:44:27,213
Speaker 3: the there's the illusionist in you, there's the magician if

832
00:44:27,253 --> 00:44:30,733
Speaker 3: you like. But then you you love the escape act

833
00:44:30,813 --> 00:44:32,853
Speaker 3: as well, and you're a dancer like you have these

834
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Speaker 3: kind of these different threads to your performances.

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Speaker 12: And all happened organically. I would go to the video

836
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Speaker 12: store as a little kid, and I'd go into the

837
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Speaker 12: nostalgic section and borrow a VHS tape on Gene Kelly

838
00:44:46,733 --> 00:44:49,573
Speaker 12: and Fred Astaire singing there, and so I don't even

839
00:44:49,613 --> 00:44:51,693
Speaker 12: know how to answer that, like that's what I was

840
00:44:51,773 --> 00:44:54,253
Speaker 12: just this is for dancing, correct. And I would just

841
00:44:54,293 --> 00:44:57,573
Speaker 12: watch these, these these old films of Charlie Chaplin and

842
00:44:58,693 --> 00:45:00,813
Speaker 12: and I remember the video store guy saying to my

843
00:45:00,973 --> 00:45:03,133
Speaker 12: mother once, why is your son in? Why is any in?

844
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Speaker 12: Like the eighties action section, look the current action section,

845
00:45:07,613 --> 00:45:10,333
Speaker 12: late eighties, early nineties, and my Mom's like, I don't

846
00:45:10,333 --> 00:45:11,813
Speaker 12: know you. Just like so I would just watch these

847
00:45:11,893 --> 00:45:13,893
Speaker 12: video tapes and I would watch them in slow motion,

848
00:45:14,453 --> 00:45:17,013
Speaker 12: fast forward and rewind and copy, and I'd put little

849
00:45:17,053 --> 00:45:18,613
Speaker 12: socks on and I would kind of skid around on

850
00:45:18,693 --> 00:45:23,253
Speaker 12: the tiles and mimic. That's even that predates the magic.

851
00:45:24,133 --> 00:45:28,613
Speaker 12: And then I discovered the book Judini and Escapes, and

852
00:45:28,693 --> 00:45:30,813
Speaker 12: then I kind of put the two together with the dat.

853
00:45:30,893 --> 00:45:33,213
Speaker 12: It wasn't like this a great genius idea. I thought, Okay,

854
00:45:33,253 --> 00:45:34,573
Speaker 12: I'm going to take this dance. I'm going to take

855
00:45:34,573 --> 00:45:36,333
Speaker 12: the escapes. I'm going to take the magic and combine it,

856
00:45:36,373 --> 00:45:37,973
Speaker 12: and now I'm going to have a career. I just

857
00:45:38,093 --> 00:45:41,093
Speaker 12: played around with things that I enjoyed and then it

858
00:45:41,213 --> 00:45:44,453
Speaker 12: kind of it came together, but there was pushback in Australia.

859
00:45:44,453 --> 00:45:46,413
Speaker 12: When I first started doing magic, I joined the Little

860
00:45:46,453 --> 00:45:51,133
Speaker 12: Magic Club. Young kids would go once a month and

861
00:45:51,253 --> 00:45:53,373
Speaker 12: I was entering a competition and I did my act

862
00:45:53,653 --> 00:45:56,773
Speaker 12: and they kind of review your act constructive criticism, and

863
00:45:57,053 --> 00:45:59,733
Speaker 12: the constructive criticism was take out or the dance, because

864
00:45:59,773 --> 00:46:02,293
Speaker 12: it's not a dance competition. It's a magic competition. And

865
00:46:02,333 --> 00:46:04,053
Speaker 12: I remember going home as a twelve year old, thirteen

866
00:46:04,093 --> 00:46:07,173
Speaker 12: year old, and I was really upset about it. And

867
00:46:07,213 --> 00:46:08,533
Speaker 12: I was like, you know, they've told me the act

868
00:46:08,693 --> 00:46:10,813
Speaker 12: is good, but you know the dance is all rubbish

869
00:46:10,893 --> 00:46:13,413
Speaker 12: and it should come out. And my brother, my older

870
00:46:13,413 --> 00:46:15,373
Speaker 12: brother who works with me, he still works with me today,

871
00:46:15,413 --> 00:46:18,013
Speaker 12: he was like, ah, time to get stuffed. I said, oh,

872
00:46:18,053 --> 00:46:19,093
Speaker 12: you know, I'm just going to do the act I

873
00:46:19,173 --> 00:46:21,493
Speaker 12: want to do. And I went to Adelaide as a

874
00:46:21,573 --> 00:46:24,373
Speaker 12: little kid. My father took me and I won this

875
00:46:24,453 --> 00:46:28,093
Speaker 12: competition against people twice my age and three times as experience.

876
00:46:28,213 --> 00:46:29,813
Speaker 12: I was doing the act that I wanted to do.

877
00:46:30,333 --> 00:46:32,453
Speaker 12: So all of a sudden, I've now won this competition

878
00:46:32,533 --> 00:46:35,453
Speaker 12: against peers, people better than me. You're older than me,

879
00:46:35,573 --> 00:46:38,973
Speaker 12: more experienced than me doing it my way, so that

880
00:46:39,093 --> 00:46:40,493
Speaker 12: set me on the path. Well, I'll just do what

881
00:46:40,533 --> 00:46:40,933
Speaker 12: I want to do.

882
00:46:40,973 --> 00:46:44,493
Speaker 3: It's a validation, right, correct. I want to ask you

883
00:46:44,573 --> 00:46:46,893
Speaker 3: about some of the escape X because you've done some

884
00:46:47,613 --> 00:46:52,053
Speaker 3: crazy things and I as beast you can. Can you

885
00:46:52,133 --> 00:46:54,853
Speaker 3: describe to us your kind of mindset when you find yourself,

886
00:46:55,053 --> 00:46:58,853
Speaker 3: for example, locked up underwater trying to peck locks while

887
00:46:58,893 --> 00:47:00,893
Speaker 3: holding your breath for an extended period of time in

888
00:47:00,973 --> 00:47:03,293
Speaker 3: front of television cameras and a live audience, because it

889
00:47:03,373 --> 00:47:05,213
Speaker 3: strikes me as being the sort of thing that would

890
00:47:05,773 --> 00:47:09,373
Speaker 3: be totally overwhelming for ninety nine point nine nine nine

891
00:47:09,413 --> 00:47:10,013
Speaker 3: percent of us.

892
00:47:10,773 --> 00:47:11,013
Speaker 4: It is.

893
00:47:11,133 --> 00:47:15,213
Speaker 12: It's it's very so to hold your breath lying on

894
00:47:15,293 --> 00:47:21,933
Speaker 12: a couch, static, comfortable, no stress. I can go seven

895
00:47:21,973 --> 00:47:26,293
Speaker 12: plus minutes. That's amazing, it's and and that's not that

896
00:47:26,413 --> 00:47:27,813
Speaker 12: difficult to do it, and you can be trained to

897
00:47:27,893 --> 00:47:28,093
Speaker 12: do that.

898
00:47:28,333 --> 00:47:30,613
Speaker 3: I can do three having not been training.

899
00:47:31,493 --> 00:47:33,333
Speaker 12: So that's a long time because most people can only

900
00:47:33,373 --> 00:47:35,973
Speaker 12: do forty five ninety seconds, So that's a long time.

901
00:47:36,053 --> 00:47:37,573
Speaker 3: You traine stuff.

902
00:47:38,053 --> 00:47:39,573
Speaker 12: Do you push for it like you train for it?

903
00:47:39,893 --> 00:47:39,933
Speaker 7: No?

904
00:47:40,133 --> 00:47:42,573
Speaker 3: No, no, just naturally I can do three. But then

905
00:47:42,773 --> 00:47:45,813
Speaker 3: but then I start to convert like my chies starts.

906
00:47:45,533 --> 00:47:47,653
Speaker 12: To yes, yes, but you can push through that.

907
00:47:48,173 --> 00:47:49,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's deeply unpleasant.

908
00:47:50,293 --> 00:47:54,973
Speaker 12: Yes, it's deeply unpleasant. Wow, I'm impressed because most people

909
00:47:55,013 --> 00:47:56,933
Speaker 12: can't do three, but not the average.

910
00:47:57,013 --> 00:47:59,653
Speaker 3: I mean that's it's to do seven. You have to

911
00:47:59,693 --> 00:48:02,093
Speaker 3: be able to completely lower your heart rate, right you have.

912
00:48:02,133 --> 00:48:05,493
Speaker 12: Yes, it's under fifty beats. Yes, it's meditation. So what

913
00:48:05,733 --> 00:48:09,213
Speaker 12: I do is I go through the alphabet in my head,

914
00:48:10,453 --> 00:48:12,853
Speaker 12: starting at A, obviously, and I go through all the

915
00:48:12,893 --> 00:48:14,613
Speaker 12: people I know with the letter A in their name,

916
00:48:15,373 --> 00:48:16,613
Speaker 12: and then I go to B and I move on

917
00:48:16,653 --> 00:48:17,733
Speaker 12: and I go through a whole alfe abad. And the

918
00:48:17,733 --> 00:48:21,053
Speaker 12: reason why you do this is you distract yourself from

919
00:48:21,413 --> 00:48:24,053
Speaker 12: everything else that's happening around you, and you focus in,

920
00:48:24,213 --> 00:48:27,373
Speaker 12: and by focusing and zoning in, you can lower your

921
00:48:27,413 --> 00:48:29,693
Speaker 12: heart rate. And then once I finished all the alphabet

922
00:48:29,733 --> 00:48:32,533
Speaker 12: and then go into my my I go through my house.

923
00:48:33,013 --> 00:48:35,893
Speaker 12: I walk through the front door, and I picture vividly

924
00:48:36,893 --> 00:48:39,093
Speaker 12: my hand grabbing the front door and the key, going

925
00:48:39,133 --> 00:48:41,693
Speaker 12: inside and opening the door, then shutting it and walking in.

926
00:48:41,813 --> 00:48:44,573
Speaker 12: What's on the left hand side, what's inside the vase?

927
00:48:44,933 --> 00:48:46,373
Speaker 12: What pictures are on the wall and by the time

928
00:48:46,413 --> 00:48:47,933
Speaker 12: you go through this press and even just talking about

929
00:48:47,933 --> 00:48:52,893
Speaker 12: it right, you can so. But then doing it in

930
00:48:53,013 --> 00:48:57,373
Speaker 12: a tank with the cameras moving around so not static.

931
00:48:57,813 --> 00:49:00,733
Speaker 12: As soon as this add movement to it, it changes everything.

932
00:49:01,253 --> 00:49:03,053
Speaker 12: And then you add the pressure of going let's say

933
00:49:03,093 --> 00:49:06,013
Speaker 12: five meters or ten meters deep and half a hemisphere

934
00:49:06,013 --> 00:49:08,173
Speaker 12: of pressure on your lungs, it reduces it automatically by

935
00:49:08,213 --> 00:49:11,413
Speaker 12: fifty percent, so you don't have the capacity to do.

936
00:49:11,813 --> 00:49:15,213
Speaker 12: And then you have people watching on the outside. The

937
00:49:15,333 --> 00:49:19,653
Speaker 12: expectation of you know, the television crew and the network

938
00:49:19,853 --> 00:49:22,453
Speaker 12: and people that have come to see it live. It

939
00:49:22,573 --> 00:49:25,653
Speaker 12: all just kind of compounds very very quickly. And I

940
00:49:26,653 --> 00:49:28,533
Speaker 12: had the ambulance there and they were measuring my heart

941
00:49:28,613 --> 00:49:30,293
Speaker 12: rate and I wanted to go into an under fifty

942
00:49:30,333 --> 00:49:33,493
Speaker 12: beats for my first TV special. Yeah, and I was

943
00:49:33,573 --> 00:49:36,693
Speaker 12: going in at like ninety. It was because I was

944
00:49:36,773 --> 00:49:39,693
Speaker 12: just anxious. Yeah, of course, so I started on the

945
00:49:39,693 --> 00:49:40,653
Speaker 12: wrong foot to begin with.

946
00:49:41,493 --> 00:49:41,733
Speaker 15: It is.

947
00:49:41,813 --> 00:49:44,813
Speaker 12: It was terrible, but you in that moment you push through.

948
00:49:45,053 --> 00:49:47,573
Speaker 12: Something interesting about the escapes too. It's the only time

949
00:49:47,613 --> 00:49:50,693
Speaker 12: when I do it on stage. It's the only time

950
00:49:50,973 --> 00:49:54,133
Speaker 12: when I'm by myself and I can't hear the audience.

951
00:49:54,893 --> 00:49:58,573
Speaker 12: I can just hear my heartbeat. Very calm. I mean,

952
00:49:58,613 --> 00:50:01,133
Speaker 12: if you relate to this, if you hold your breath,

953
00:50:01,173 --> 00:50:03,813
Speaker 12: you know that kind of calm. It's really odd. There's

954
00:50:03,853 --> 00:50:04,933
Speaker 12: something surric.

955
00:50:05,133 --> 00:50:06,133
Speaker 3: It's like it's like meditating.

956
00:50:07,493 --> 00:50:11,093
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's really really special. It's a special feeling. And

957
00:50:12,893 --> 00:50:14,693
Speaker 12: when you get there and you can get to that

958
00:50:14,853 --> 00:50:18,213
Speaker 12: really calm state, that medication state, it's it's pretty epic.

959
00:50:18,333 --> 00:50:20,773
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're listening to news talks in the jec tam

960
00:50:20,973 --> 00:50:24,093
Speaker 3: speaking with Cosantino, a hit of his New Zealand shows.

961
00:50:25,053 --> 00:50:27,453
Speaker 3: Has anything ever gone wrong when you're doing that? Like,

962
00:50:27,573 --> 00:50:29,773
Speaker 3: what's the most wrong something has ever gone?

963
00:50:30,373 --> 00:50:32,613
Speaker 12: We did a stunt called dropped. I was in a

964
00:50:32,693 --> 00:50:37,333
Speaker 12: perspects bubble. Oh yeah, perspects kind of I don't know,

965
00:50:37,413 --> 00:50:38,413
Speaker 12: explained like a perspects.

966
00:50:38,693 --> 00:50:38,893
Speaker 4: Yeah.

967
00:50:38,893 --> 00:50:40,853
Speaker 12: It's like a big bubble. Yeah, And it was dropped

968
00:50:40,893 --> 00:50:44,133
Speaker 12: ten meters deep in like a silo. It's actually like

969
00:50:44,133 --> 00:50:47,173
Speaker 12: a diving tank, a training diving tank, and the bubble

970
00:50:47,333 --> 00:50:50,493
Speaker 12: was the same width as the actual tank, so there

971
00:50:50,573 --> 00:50:52,293
Speaker 12: was no divers and no one could get to me.

972
00:50:52,733 --> 00:50:54,573
Speaker 12: A little hatch on the top and I was handcuffed

973
00:50:54,613 --> 00:50:58,373
Speaker 12: chained beally chains, locked up leg irons, and the night

974
00:50:58,413 --> 00:51:00,333
Speaker 12: before the TV special, so we set up all the cameras.

975
00:51:00,333 --> 00:51:02,413
Speaker 12: There was a special remote camera underneath, there was cameras

976
00:51:02,413 --> 00:51:04,333
Speaker 12: on the side, there was GoPros all over it, blah

977
00:51:04,333 --> 00:51:07,653
Speaker 12: blah blah, and we'll just take sting everything the night before.

978
00:51:08,133 --> 00:51:10,093
Speaker 12: So I'm doing my test run and I go down

979
00:51:10,413 --> 00:51:11,613
Speaker 12: and I'm only down there for like two and a

980
00:51:11,613 --> 00:51:14,013
Speaker 12: half a minutes. It's not a long hold, but again

981
00:51:14,093 --> 00:51:17,493
Speaker 12: five mint is deep. It's and I start to I

982
00:51:17,533 --> 00:51:20,613
Speaker 12: couldn't equalize the pressure in my head. So once I

983
00:51:20,733 --> 00:51:22,813
Speaker 12: got my first handcuff off, I'm trying to equalize my pressure.

984
00:51:22,853 --> 00:51:25,053
Speaker 12: I don't. That's one thing I hate. I hate the pressure.

985
00:51:25,773 --> 00:51:27,733
Speaker 12: Like if I do do a water tank escape and

986
00:51:27,773 --> 00:51:31,973
Speaker 12: I and it's kind of just on stage. I cannot

987
00:51:32,013 --> 00:51:33,773
Speaker 12: do my breath hole much longer. Once I get the

988
00:51:33,813 --> 00:51:37,173
Speaker 12: pressure on me me personally, I find that really really challenging.

989
00:51:37,173 --> 00:51:39,253
Speaker 3: Just to be clear pressure as in the ear pressure

990
00:51:39,733 --> 00:51:40,853
Speaker 3: from being underwater.

991
00:51:40,533 --> 00:51:44,413
Speaker 12: Wall correct the water pressure. Yes, so I'm being dropped down,

992
00:51:44,453 --> 00:51:46,973
Speaker 12: I'm ten meters deep. I start to feel the pressure

993
00:51:46,973 --> 00:51:49,173
Speaker 12: on my head. I get my handcuff off and I'm thinking, jeez,

994
00:51:49,173 --> 00:51:50,853
Speaker 12: there's a lot of pressure in my head. So I

995
00:51:51,453 --> 00:51:53,693
Speaker 12: equalize by blowing through my nose, like what you do

996
00:51:53,693 --> 00:51:55,853
Speaker 12: when you're on an aeroplane. And I hear this little

997
00:51:55,893 --> 00:51:57,773
Speaker 12: pop and I think, oh great, because there's a relief.

998
00:51:58,093 --> 00:52:00,293
Speaker 12: But then all of a sudden, this excruciating pain in

999
00:52:00,413 --> 00:52:02,453
Speaker 12: my right year. So I blew my right ear drum.

1000
00:52:02,533 --> 00:52:06,533
Speaker 12: Yeah right, So of course if you blow. When you

1001
00:52:06,533 --> 00:52:08,693
Speaker 12: blown drum, you get disorientated, you get nauseous. And I'm

1002
00:52:08,733 --> 00:52:10,373
Speaker 12: locked up and chained and no one can get to me.

1003
00:52:10,973 --> 00:52:13,973
Speaker 12: And this is rehearsal, and my my team is filming

1004
00:52:13,973 --> 00:52:16,493
Speaker 12: it on an iPhone, just certain they know how to

1005
00:52:16,533 --> 00:52:18,893
Speaker 12: tell the cameras how to film it tomorrow when the crew,

1006
00:52:18,973 --> 00:52:22,253
Speaker 12: when everyone comes in. Anyway, I managed to get out

1007
00:52:22,253 --> 00:52:24,173
Speaker 12: of all the chains. This is all on video, by

1008
00:52:24,173 --> 00:52:27,613
Speaker 12: the way, on the tested go pro footage. And I

1009
00:52:27,693 --> 00:52:29,813
Speaker 12: swim to the top and they can see it.

1010
00:52:29,893 --> 00:52:30,413
Speaker 4: I pop the top.

1011
00:52:30,453 --> 00:52:31,733
Speaker 12: They could do something's wrong. They could see in my

1012
00:52:31,773 --> 00:52:33,133
Speaker 12: face and you can see it on a film. And

1013
00:52:33,253 --> 00:52:35,133
Speaker 12: so my brother pulls back my hair and you see

1014
00:52:35,173 --> 00:52:38,293
Speaker 12: the blood still coming out of my ear. Literally, so

1015
00:52:38,413 --> 00:52:40,853
Speaker 12: blooty ear drum. And we had to cancel the entire stuff,

1016
00:52:40,933 --> 00:52:43,653
Speaker 12: putting it on an aeroplane. Couldn't do my live shows anymore.

1017
00:52:43,813 --> 00:52:45,613
Speaker 12: Had to go back to the network, explained to them,

1018
00:52:45,653 --> 00:52:47,013
Speaker 12: you know the big stunt we had at the end

1019
00:52:47,053 --> 00:52:48,773
Speaker 12: that we spent all this money on. Yeah, it's gone.

1020
00:52:49,173 --> 00:52:51,533
Speaker 12: It's not. People Ala say, oh, you've dramatized it so much,

1021
00:52:51,573 --> 00:52:54,813
Speaker 12: But it wasn't a you know, we didn't aim to.

1022
00:52:54,933 --> 00:52:58,373
Speaker 3: That wasn't even a lot worse could have correct. Do

1023
00:52:58,413 --> 00:53:01,413
Speaker 3: you ever see that show. We're of the same generation

1024
00:53:01,493 --> 00:53:02,373
Speaker 3: win stunts go bad?

1025
00:53:02,613 --> 00:53:07,973
Speaker 12: Yes, yes, yes, please, whatever you do, don't yes, I

1026
00:53:08,133 --> 00:53:10,133
Speaker 12: know you see, it can all go pair shaped. And

1027
00:53:10,173 --> 00:53:12,533
Speaker 12: when you're filming a TV show under a lot of

1028
00:53:12,573 --> 00:53:16,213
Speaker 12: pressure and the time restraints, I just to accomplish what

1029
00:53:16,293 --> 00:53:18,493
Speaker 12: they really want, you just don't have enough. There's not

1030
00:53:18,573 --> 00:53:20,573
Speaker 12: enough budget to do it, to do it no matter how.

1031
00:53:20,733 --> 00:53:23,013
Speaker 12: And also when you do, you're always thinking big for TV,

1032
00:53:23,333 --> 00:53:26,013
Speaker 12: so no matter how much budget you get, for some reason,

1033
00:53:26,053 --> 00:53:27,253
Speaker 12: it's never enough enough.

1034
00:53:27,373 --> 00:53:29,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're almost out of time, So tell us about

1035
00:53:29,933 --> 00:53:30,173
Speaker 3: the show.

1036
00:53:30,973 --> 00:53:33,653
Speaker 12: Yes to send him. It's a celebration of my life

1037
00:53:33,693 --> 00:53:36,533
Speaker 12: in magic ten years. Hence the name of the sendim

1038
00:53:36,573 --> 00:53:40,093
Speaker 12: Who Latin for ten and off a decade, and I

1039
00:53:40,213 --> 00:53:42,253
Speaker 12: bring together a close up slide of hand magic, so

1040
00:53:42,413 --> 00:53:45,213
Speaker 12: it's all projected onto video screens and people sit opposite

1041
00:53:45,293 --> 00:53:48,893
Speaker 12: me and we borrow objects, rings, and they sign cards

1042
00:53:48,933 --> 00:53:52,213
Speaker 12: and they really participate in amazing things. Miracles happen under

1043
00:53:52,253 --> 00:53:54,093
Speaker 12: their noses, and the whole audience gets to watch it.

1044
00:53:54,813 --> 00:53:57,733
Speaker 12: And then these crazy death defying demonstrations. My head's in

1045
00:53:57,773 --> 00:54:00,333
Speaker 12: a perspex box with kitchen knives dangling above my head

1046
00:54:00,373 --> 00:54:02,613
Speaker 12: and I've got to get out and escape. And then

1047
00:54:02,653 --> 00:54:06,133
Speaker 12: the illusions people appearing and disappearing and levitating and teleporting

1048
00:54:06,173 --> 00:54:10,373
Speaker 12: and mind reading and predicting the future. And it's really

1049
00:54:10,493 --> 00:54:13,013
Speaker 12: powerful because when you watch it on TV, you can

1050
00:54:13,093 --> 00:54:15,493
Speaker 12: often justify what I'm doing in your head. You might

1051
00:54:15,533 --> 00:54:17,773
Speaker 12: say to yourself, Ah, it's an actor, or it's set up,

1052
00:54:18,093 --> 00:54:20,133
Speaker 12: which it's not, but you might say that, or if

1053
00:54:20,173 --> 00:54:22,093
Speaker 12: I was there, I would know how it's done. So

1054
00:54:22,173 --> 00:54:25,253
Speaker 12: when you come and witness the show, and you come

1055
00:54:25,333 --> 00:54:27,133
Speaker 12: up on stage or your spouse comes up on stage,

1056
00:54:27,173 --> 00:54:28,693
Speaker 12: and I read their mind and you go, well, hang on,

1057
00:54:29,493 --> 00:54:31,293
Speaker 12: if this isn't set up. He doesn't know me, he

1058
00:54:31,333 --> 00:54:33,933
Speaker 12: doesn't know my partner. How did he know how could

1059
00:54:33,973 --> 00:54:36,773
Speaker 12: he do that? Or you're watching someone float through the

1060
00:54:36,853 --> 00:54:39,853
Speaker 12: air and you're sitting in the front row and you're going, well,

1061
00:54:39,893 --> 00:54:42,733
Speaker 12: there's no strings, there's no magnets, how is that possible?

1062
00:54:42,893 --> 00:54:45,213
Speaker 12: So you get caught up in the atmosphere and people

1063
00:54:45,253 --> 00:54:48,893
Speaker 12: around you are gasping and laughing, and so the show

1064
00:54:49,053 --> 00:54:52,893
Speaker 12: is as immersive as you want it to be. So

1065
00:54:52,933 --> 00:54:54,493
Speaker 12: you could just sit and watch the show and observe,

1066
00:54:54,933 --> 00:54:56,733
Speaker 12: or you can participate and come up and make sure

1067
00:54:56,773 --> 00:54:58,933
Speaker 12: the knives are real, or that the handcuffs are real

1068
00:54:59,133 --> 00:55:01,133
Speaker 12: and that it's not gimmicked or set up in any way.

1069
00:55:01,773 --> 00:55:05,013
Speaker 12: Or you can be the person who selects the cards,

1070
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Speaker 12: so you know. So it's it's a really obviously it's

1071
00:55:10,133 --> 00:55:11,893
Speaker 12: a magic trip, but there's a lot of humor, and

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00:55:11,893 --> 00:55:13,373
Speaker 12: there's a dance and then there's all a little light

1073
00:55:13,413 --> 00:55:14,933
Speaker 12: and we bring all the lighting in, we bring all

1074
00:55:14,973 --> 00:55:17,493
Speaker 12: the sets in, we bring all the costumes, and everything's bespoke.

1075
00:55:18,133 --> 00:55:20,693
Speaker 12: So it's a it's a great night of family entertainment

1076
00:55:20,733 --> 00:55:23,213
Speaker 12: and no one really walks out from my experience, and

1077
00:55:23,253 --> 00:55:27,053
Speaker 12: with toured just show in Singapore, Malaysia, all across Australia,

1078
00:55:27,653 --> 00:55:29,413
Speaker 12: and no one really walks out saying, oh, I love

1079
00:55:29,493 --> 00:55:31,413
Speaker 12: that trick where he levitated the person. What they do

1080
00:55:31,493 --> 00:55:33,693
Speaker 12: walk out saying is that's a really good night of entertainment.

1081
00:55:33,813 --> 00:55:35,973
Speaker 12: And that's the biggest compliment. Yeah, because they don't pin

1082
00:55:36,053 --> 00:55:37,693
Speaker 12: it to just one thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I love that. I'm so excited to have

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00:55:40,613 --> 00:55:42,093
Speaker 3: it here. We're gonna have all the details for to

1085
00:55:42,133 --> 00:55:44,213
Speaker 3: seeing him up on the news talks. He'd be website.

1086
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Speaker 3: But it is so good to see you, gys.

1087
00:55:45,653 --> 00:55:47,013
Speaker 12: Thank you pleasure, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: That is Cozantino, magician, escape artist, extraordinary, got a big

1089
00:55:53,253 --> 00:55:55,613
Speaker 3: hour on news talks. He'd be before eleven o'clock. We're

1090
00:55:55,613 --> 00:55:58,573
Speaker 3: going to tell you about this incredible new AI system

1091
00:55:58,573 --> 00:56:00,493
Speaker 3: they're getting up for the for the Olympics and a

1092
00:56:00,533 --> 00:56:04,813
Speaker 3: couple of weeks time. So basically it tailors your Olympics

1093
00:56:04,933 --> 00:56:07,613
Speaker 3: highlights to the sports you prefer. And you might think, oh,

1094
00:56:07,613 --> 00:56:09,773
Speaker 3: well that's easy enough, right, So it works out that

1095
00:56:09,853 --> 00:56:12,173
Speaker 3: you like the athletics, you like the swimming, so it

1096
00:56:12,253 --> 00:56:14,373
Speaker 3: gives you that at the top of your highlights package

1097
00:56:14,413 --> 00:56:17,373
Speaker 3: every day. But as well as that, it has computer

1098
00:56:17,773 --> 00:56:21,973
Speaker 3: generated commentary. So it has computer generated commentary. This comment

1099
00:56:22,173 --> 00:56:24,413
Speaker 3: has never actually said these words. It has commentary that

1100
00:56:24,533 --> 00:56:28,253
Speaker 3: goes along with the sporting events, tailored to your likings.

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00:56:28,293 --> 00:56:29,813
Speaker 3: So we're going to tell you about that very shortly

1102
00:56:29,893 --> 00:56:31,973
Speaker 3: in our technology segment. Next up, though, if you're looking

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00:56:32,013 --> 00:56:35,293
Speaker 3: for some nice light relief this weekend, three shows to

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00:56:35,373 --> 00:56:38,133
Speaker 3: recommend in our screen time segment. Right now, it's twenty

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00:56:38,173 --> 00:56:39,133
Speaker 3: four minutes past ten.

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00:56:40,133 --> 00:56:43,573
Speaker 1: Start your weekend off in style. Saturday Mornings with Jack

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Speaker 1: tam and vpure dot code on inzet for high quality

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00:56:48,213 --> 00:56:51,293
Speaker 3: SEDB twenty seven past ten. You know what that means.

1110
00:56:51,333 --> 00:56:53,933
Speaker 3: It's screen time time on news Talk seid B. Tara

1111
00:56:53,973 --> 00:56:56,533
Speaker 3: Award has three shows to tell us all about. Hey Tara,

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00:56:57,773 --> 00:57:00,373
Speaker 3: good morning. Let's begin with a new show streaming on

1113
00:57:00,453 --> 00:57:03,693
Speaker 3: TV and Z Plus starring Julianne Moore, tell us about

1114
00:57:03,893 --> 00:57:05,173
Speaker 3: Mary and George.

1115
00:57:06,933 --> 00:57:08,573
Speaker 6: This is a new historical drama.

1116
00:57:08,613 --> 00:57:10,773
Speaker 17: And if you think the historical dramas are a bit

1117
00:57:10,853 --> 00:57:13,413
Speaker 17: boring or a bit stuffy, I think this one will

1118
00:57:13,573 --> 00:57:16,013
Speaker 17: change your mind. This is a British drama set in

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00:57:16,053 --> 00:57:19,053
Speaker 17: the sixteen hundreds and it's about the Villiers family who

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00:57:19,173 --> 00:57:21,853
Speaker 17: are led by the matriarch Mary, who's played by Julianne

1121
00:57:21,853 --> 00:57:26,093
Speaker 17: Moore and Mary is this cunning, calculating woman. She's a

1122
00:57:26,213 --> 00:57:28,973
Speaker 17: desperate social climber and she'll do whatever it takes for

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00:57:29,053 --> 00:57:32,133
Speaker 17: her family to survive. And she hatches this plan for

1124
00:57:32,293 --> 00:57:35,293
Speaker 17: her second son to become a romantic interest of the king,

1125
00:57:35,493 --> 00:57:37,693
Speaker 17: and the show is about how she schemes and plots

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00:57:37,733 --> 00:57:40,093
Speaker 17: and pulls all sorts of strings for her son to

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00:57:40,173 --> 00:57:42,973
Speaker 17: gain this position of power in a world where a

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00:57:43,053 --> 00:57:45,493
Speaker 17: lot of other powerful people are determined to keep her

1129
00:57:45,653 --> 00:57:48,253
Speaker 17: and her family in their place. It is based on

1130
00:57:48,333 --> 00:57:51,013
Speaker 17: a true story, although I'm not too sure how historically

1131
00:57:51,133 --> 00:57:53,293
Speaker 17: accurate it is, and I don't think the show cares

1132
00:57:53,333 --> 00:57:53,733
Speaker 17: too much.

1133
00:57:54,173 --> 00:57:55,613
Speaker 6: It's just having a lot of fun here.

1134
00:57:55,773 --> 00:57:59,173
Speaker 17: This looks stunning. The costumes and the sets are just

1135
00:57:59,293 --> 00:58:01,813
Speaker 17: so rich and gorgeous. It's just beautiful to watch. And

1136
00:58:01,893 --> 00:58:05,533
Speaker 17: it's full of this really dark humor. It's quite irreverent,

1137
00:58:05,813 --> 00:58:09,373
Speaker 17: and just so much energy and attitude here. I think

1138
00:58:09,373 --> 00:58:11,853
Speaker 17: if you're a fan of The Favorite or the Great,

1139
00:58:12,053 --> 00:58:14,893
Speaker 17: you know it feels quite similar to that those historical shows,

1140
00:58:14,933 --> 00:58:18,133
Speaker 17: but with some real energy and sharp and funny and

1141
00:58:18,253 --> 00:58:19,013
Speaker 17: lots of dark humor.

1142
00:58:19,133 --> 00:58:21,493
Speaker 3: Oh good, Okay, that sounds great. Mary and George is

1143
00:58:21,533 --> 00:58:25,573
Speaker 3: on TV and Z Plus on Prime video. I Am Celendon.

1144
00:58:27,533 --> 00:58:27,733
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1145
00:58:27,773 --> 00:58:31,253
Speaker 17: This is the new, highly anticipated documentary about the life

1146
00:58:31,373 --> 00:58:35,093
Speaker 17: of superstar singer Celendion, and it was filmed not long

1147
00:58:35,213 --> 00:58:38,653
Speaker 17: after her diagnosis with a very rare condition called stiff

1148
00:58:38,693 --> 00:58:41,453
Speaker 17: person syndrome, which has meant she hasn't been able to

1149
00:58:41,573 --> 00:58:43,613
Speaker 17: perform for a few years now and she can't sing

1150
00:58:43,773 --> 00:58:46,293
Speaker 17: like she used to, and a lot of the documentary

1151
00:58:46,413 --> 00:58:49,413
Speaker 17: is about her coming to terms with that diagnosis.

1152
00:58:48,853 --> 00:58:50,653
Speaker 6: And the struggle of not being able to perform.

1153
00:58:50,813 --> 00:58:54,253
Speaker 17: And for someone whose life has her whole life has

1154
00:58:54,293 --> 00:58:57,053
Speaker 17: been performance and music and singing in front of thousands

1155
00:58:57,093 --> 00:58:59,693
Speaker 17: of people every night, having to step away from that,

1156
00:59:00,013 --> 00:59:02,973
Speaker 17: not on her own terms is quite devastating for her.

1157
00:59:03,493 --> 00:59:06,293
Speaker 17: So this is Celene Dion as we've never seen her before.

1158
00:59:06,413 --> 00:59:09,413
Speaker 17: And often when you watch a documentary about a famous

1159
00:59:09,453 --> 00:59:12,453
Speaker 17: person or a musical icon, there's a certain.

1160
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Speaker 6: Level of ego involved.

1161
00:59:13,413 --> 00:59:17,533
Speaker 17: You know they're conscious or protective about what about being

1162
00:59:17,573 --> 00:59:20,133
Speaker 17: seen in a certain way. But there's no ego here.

1163
00:59:20,213 --> 00:59:23,293
Speaker 17: This is Celdion. You know, without a scrap of makeup on,

1164
00:59:23,533 --> 00:59:26,693
Speaker 17: she is raw and emotional. There's some very tough scenes

1165
00:59:26,733 --> 00:59:29,373
Speaker 17: in this. It really captures the reality of her life

1166
00:59:29,413 --> 00:59:32,573
Speaker 17: now and it is hard to watch at times, but

1167
00:59:32,653 --> 00:59:34,653
Speaker 17: there's hope here as well, and it's less of a

1168
00:59:34,693 --> 00:59:37,013
Speaker 17: look back on her career, which was kind of a

1169
00:59:37,053 --> 00:59:39,333
Speaker 17: bit more of what I was expecting and more of

1170
00:59:39,453 --> 00:59:42,013
Speaker 17: a this is where I am now sort of explaining

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00:59:42,053 --> 00:59:42,933
Speaker 17: that to her fans.

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Speaker 12: But you'll need the tissues for this without a doubt.

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Speaker 3: Oh nice. Well, yeah, sounds really good to see her

1174
00:59:48,173 --> 00:59:53,733
Speaker 3: in that kind of unvarnished state. So that's I Am Celdion.

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00:59:53,933 --> 00:59:56,853
Speaker 3: That's on Prime Video on Disney plus the third season

1176
00:59:56,933 --> 00:59:58,773
Speaker 3: of the ever popular The Bear.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, one of the most intense shows on television is back.

1178
01:00:03,253 --> 01:00:05,693
Speaker 17: And this is the award winning series about a chef

1179
01:00:05,733 --> 01:00:08,213
Speaker 17: called Kami who comes home after the death of his

1180
01:00:08,333 --> 01:00:11,773
Speaker 17: brother and starts running the family restaurant in Chicago. He's

1181
01:00:11,853 --> 01:00:15,413
Speaker 17: determined to turn this rundown but much love Sandwich bar

1182
01:00:15,613 --> 01:00:19,493
Speaker 17: into a Michelin star restaurant and somehow bring his staff

1183
01:00:19,573 --> 01:00:23,253
Speaker 17: with him despite their reluctance and lack of formal training.

1184
01:00:23,333 --> 01:00:26,013
Speaker 17: And season three picks up with the restaurant about to open.

1185
01:00:26,133 --> 01:00:28,613
Speaker 17: There's quite a different feel to the first episode at least,

1186
01:00:29,133 --> 01:00:30,933
Speaker 17: but if you haven't seen the Bee. Yet I really

1187
01:00:31,253 --> 01:00:35,053
Speaker 17: really recommend it. It's gritty and intense, and those early

1188
01:00:35,133 --> 01:00:37,173
Speaker 17: episodes it feels like you're actually in the kitchen.

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Speaker 6: It's quite stressful.

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Speaker 17: The show keeps winning awards in the comedy category, but

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01:00:41,893 --> 01:00:44,293
Speaker 17: it's definitely not a comedy. This is a drama and

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01:00:44,773 --> 01:00:46,293
Speaker 17: a drama with a lot of heart as well.

1193
01:00:46,453 --> 01:00:49,413
Speaker 3: And so the leads, the lead actor, Jeremy Allen White,

1194
01:00:49,853 --> 01:00:52,053
Speaker 3: is he's sort of become a bit of a superstar

1195
01:00:52,253 --> 01:00:52,933
Speaker 3: kind of over night.

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01:00:53,053 --> 01:00:53,293
Speaker 7: Really.

1197
01:00:53,373 --> 01:00:53,893
Speaker 5: I know he was.

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Speaker 3: He had a fair little success before, but he's really

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Speaker 3: kind of gone through to the next strata in terms

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Speaker 3: of success. You know, he's a very much a Hollywood

1201
01:01:01,213 --> 01:01:03,973
Speaker 3: ay list Now. I might be putting on the spot here, Tara,

1202
01:01:04,813 --> 01:01:07,013
Speaker 3: what do you think do you think do you think

1203
01:01:07,053 --> 01:01:07,733
Speaker 3: he's really handsome?

1204
01:01:09,053 --> 01:01:10,573
Speaker 1: I do think he's really handsome. Jack.

1205
01:01:10,693 --> 01:01:13,733
Speaker 17: Yeah, there's something I think because he's, as you know,

1206
01:01:13,813 --> 01:01:17,933
Speaker 17: he's quite different and not necessarily trying to fit that mold.

1207
01:01:18,093 --> 01:01:21,013
Speaker 17: Like everything about the beer is sort of against that

1208
01:01:21,653 --> 01:01:24,973
Speaker 17: Hollywood TV show kind of ideas. So I think that's

1209
01:01:25,013 --> 01:01:26,973
Speaker 17: maybe the appeal that he's quite different to that sort

1210
01:01:27,013 --> 01:01:29,773
Speaker 17: of standard Hollywood manufactured hero.

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Speaker 3: Because yeah, well yeah, I mean, you're not alone. I

1212
01:01:32,093 --> 01:01:33,293
Speaker 3: know that he's sort of put up as a bit

1213
01:01:33,333 --> 01:01:35,133
Speaker 3: of a heartthrob, but of a pin up these days.

1214
01:01:35,213 --> 01:01:37,013
Speaker 3: My wife has made it very clear that she thinks

1215
01:01:37,053 --> 01:01:41,173
Speaker 3: he's rather handsome as well, but of a dish. So well,

1216
01:01:41,293 --> 01:01:43,213
Speaker 3: whether or not you find its stressful as one thing,

1217
01:01:43,253 --> 01:01:45,533
Speaker 3: but there are plenty of reasons to watch the beer.

1218
01:01:46,213 --> 01:01:49,213
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, exactly, Thank you so much. That

1219
01:01:49,413 --> 01:01:51,653
Speaker 3: is The Beer is on Disney Plus. I am Selene,

1220
01:01:51,693 --> 01:01:54,213
Speaker 3: Dianna's on Prime Video, Mary and George's on TV and

1221
01:01:54,293 --> 01:01:56,013
Speaker 3: Z Plus, and all of those shows will be up

1222
01:01:56,053 --> 01:01:58,213
Speaker 3: on the Newstalks dB website. It's just after ten.

1223
01:01:58,173 --> 01:02:03,773
Speaker 4: Thirty, getting your weekends started.

1224
01:02:04,013 --> 01:02:13,533
Speaker 1: It's Saturday Morning with Jack Team on News TALKSBS.

1225
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Speaker 10: Of shooting.

1226
01:02:18,853 --> 01:02:19,213
Speaker 11: Swell.

1227
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Speaker 3: This is pretty ah. It's Anna Coddington. The song is

1228
01:02:30,213 --> 01:02:34,093
Speaker 3: called Beams. She's many things, Anna Coddington. She's a musician.

1229
01:02:34,373 --> 01:02:36,733
Speaker 3: She is a law student to mother and author, a

1230
01:02:36,813 --> 01:02:38,293
Speaker 3: karate backed black belt.

1231
01:02:39,893 --> 01:02:40,133
Speaker 6: Get this.

1232
01:02:40,293 --> 01:02:42,613
Speaker 3: Before she actually decided to dedicate her time to music,

1233
01:02:42,693 --> 01:02:45,733
Speaker 3: she did a master's degree in linguistics and wrote her

1234
01:02:45,813 --> 01:02:48,373
Speaker 3: thesis on the way that New Zealanders pronounced words when

1235
01:02:48,413 --> 01:02:51,653
Speaker 3: they sing with strong Kiwi accents. How interesting is that?

1236
01:02:52,213 --> 01:02:54,453
Speaker 3: It's intriguing a She's got a passion for language, and

1237
01:02:54,493 --> 01:02:57,213
Speaker 3: it's always played her like a really significant part in

1238
01:02:57,333 --> 01:03:00,293
Speaker 3: her songwriting, which makes sense when you listen to her

1239
01:03:00,413 --> 01:03:02,493
Speaker 3: music because she sings in both to El Maldi and

1240
01:03:02,613 --> 01:03:06,053
Speaker 3: in English, and she describes her new album as her

1241
01:03:06,053 --> 01:03:09,013
Speaker 3: own take on Maldi funk. So we're going to listen

1242
01:03:09,093 --> 01:03:11,253
Speaker 3: to that album a little bit more after eleven o'clock

1243
01:03:11,893 --> 01:03:14,773
Speaker 3: this morning. Yeah, she is. Yeah, that is really intriguing.

1244
01:03:14,933 --> 01:03:17,213
Speaker 3: What an amazing thesis. I feel like there was a

1245
01:03:17,293 --> 01:03:20,453
Speaker 3: real transition in about two thousand and two, two thousand

1246
01:03:20,453 --> 01:03:24,293
Speaker 3: and three. I remember listening to Almenop's first album and

1247
01:03:24,373 --> 01:03:26,213
Speaker 3: it was the first time I'd ever heard New Zealand

1248
01:03:26,253 --> 01:03:29,893
Speaker 3: musicians really sounding like New Zealanders, you know. And if

1249
01:03:29,933 --> 01:03:33,013
Speaker 3: you think about Almenop's music, you're familiar with element Pas

1250
01:03:33,093 --> 01:03:36,093
Speaker 3: music and they're doing like it's eleven fifty seven, yeah,

1251
01:03:37,533 --> 01:03:38,933
Speaker 3: and we're running out of time.

1252
01:03:39,973 --> 01:03:40,213
Speaker 7: It was.

1253
01:03:40,413 --> 01:03:42,613
Speaker 3: It was quite a novel thing just twenty years ago

1254
01:03:42,693 --> 01:03:45,533
Speaker 3: to hear Kiwi singing with Kiwi accents. So yeah, look

1255
01:03:45,733 --> 01:03:47,893
Speaker 3: forward to listening to a bit more of Anna Connington's

1256
01:03:48,213 --> 01:03:50,333
Speaker 3: album after eleven o'clock this morning. If you want to

1257
01:03:50,373 --> 01:03:52,813
Speaker 3: get in touch, ninety two ninety two as the text number, Jack,

1258
01:03:52,893 --> 01:03:55,853
Speaker 3: the bear sounds great going to start binge watching that immediately.

1259
01:03:56,813 --> 01:03:59,813
Speaker 3: I do recommend the bear, and I recommend watching it

1260
01:03:59,893 --> 01:04:01,533
Speaker 3: during the daytime. Actually, it's a good that you don't

1261
01:04:01,533 --> 01:04:03,133
Speaker 3: want to watch the Bear just before you go to sleep,

1262
01:04:03,213 --> 01:04:06,693
Speaker 3: not because it's scary, but because it is stressful, quite

1263
01:04:06,693 --> 01:04:09,973
Speaker 3: an anxious watch. So I think you binging it immediately

1264
01:04:10,493 --> 01:04:12,173
Speaker 3: is a very good idea. Indeed, right now it is

1265
01:04:12,213 --> 01:04:14,253
Speaker 3: twenty three minutes to eleven non news talks.

1266
01:04:14,133 --> 01:04:19,293
Speaker 1: Edby entertain the Mic Hosking Breakfast.

1267
01:04:19,333 --> 01:04:20,853
Speaker 18: I want to a need to have a few entrepreneurs

1268
01:04:20,893 --> 01:04:23,173
Speaker 18: about the place with news of something bold and progressive.

1269
01:04:23,213 --> 01:04:25,413
Speaker 18: One hundred million dollar surf park and Autland's been given

1270
01:04:25,413 --> 01:04:27,453
Speaker 18: the green lights to John Kerwin as one of the partners,

1271
01:04:27,493 --> 01:04:27,933
Speaker 18: and listen.

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01:04:27,813 --> 01:04:28,253
Speaker 9: These with us.

1273
01:04:28,293 --> 01:04:29,933
Speaker 7: Mike, I'm going to take you surfing. I'm going to

1274
01:04:29,973 --> 01:04:32,213
Speaker 7: have you surfing, like in about a month, you'd be.

1275
01:04:32,253 --> 01:04:33,853
Speaker 4: Out there for entertainment purposes.

1276
01:04:33,893 --> 01:04:36,333
Speaker 18: Only I can assure you shouldn't need to be more

1277
01:04:36,453 --> 01:04:37,453
Speaker 18: than just a wave park.

1278
01:04:37,653 --> 01:04:39,133
Speaker 7: I think you have to now, is it a thing?

1279
01:04:39,213 --> 01:04:39,413
Speaker 19: Like this.

1280
01:04:39,533 --> 01:04:41,813
Speaker 7: For me, it's about community. So what does the community

1281
01:04:41,893 --> 01:04:44,053
Speaker 7: want now? Just can't be for surfers, you know, although

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Speaker 7: just foty four thousand surfers in Auckland alone, the data

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Speaker 7: center makes it sustainable. We're very teen to try and

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Speaker 7: put a solar farm up there as well, try and

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Speaker 7: make it as off the great as possible.

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Speaker 18: Back Monday from six am the Mike Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 18: Jaguar News Talk.

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Speaker 3: Zb AI is coming to the Olympics. Not a great surprise,

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Speaker 3: I suppose, given the hype around the technology, but it's

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Speaker 3: amazing to conser of the ways in which one streaming

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Speaker 3: service is going to be applying artificial intelligence to its products.

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Speaker 3: Our texpert Paul Stenhouse is here with the details. What's

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Speaker 3: it going to mean?

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Speaker 20: Paul, Yeah, I think you need to be watching Jack

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Speaker 20: very closely because your job could be in jeopardy here

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Speaker 20: based on some of these advancements. Let me tell you so,

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Speaker 20: there's an Olympic broadcaster who's worked over here for both

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Speaker 20: the ABC and NBC, considered one of the great voices

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Speaker 20: of the Olympics, and they have managed to computer generate

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Speaker 20: his voice and he will be narrating personalized for you,

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Speaker 20: a show called your Daily Olympic Recap, which will be

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Speaker 20: on the big streaming service in the US called Peacock,

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01:05:47,533 --> 01:05:50,173
Speaker 20: which has the rights to the Olympics during the course

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Speaker 20: of the games. And I am bringing you all of

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01:05:52,373 --> 01:05:55,133
Speaker 20: the big highlights. Well it's not say you the folks

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01:05:55,173 --> 01:05:57,773
Speaker 20: in America. Yeah, bringing all of the big highlights, and

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01:05:57,853 --> 01:06:00,253
Speaker 20: it will be personalized. So if you say that you

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01:06:00,373 --> 01:06:04,053
Speaker 20: really like rowing where I really like I don't know, archery,

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01:06:04,573 --> 01:06:06,893
Speaker 20: you'll be getting more of that in your personal life feed.

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01:06:07,413 --> 01:06:10,893
Speaker 20: And they don't even need to have a human behind

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01:06:10,933 --> 01:06:14,173
Speaker 20: the microphone because they can do all of it with

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Speaker 20: this computer generated voice of a bit of a legend.

1313
01:06:17,773 --> 01:06:20,693
Speaker 20: That's amazing, scary huh yeah yeah, can I can I

1314
01:06:20,733 --> 01:06:23,733
Speaker 20: go one step further of the factor they didn't even

1315
01:06:23,813 --> 01:06:26,373
Speaker 20: have to put him back behind the microphone to create

1316
01:06:27,053 --> 01:06:29,373
Speaker 20: this voice. So what they did is they grabbed all

1317
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Speaker 20: of his broadcasts from back in the day, train the

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01:06:33,053 --> 01:06:36,973
Speaker 20: AI on that and then have effectively unleashed it.

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01:06:37,333 --> 01:06:37,493
Speaker 14: Now.

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Speaker 20: Good news, he is being compensated, So maybe there's some

1321
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Speaker 20: hope for your future check tain.

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01:06:42,173 --> 01:06:44,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I mean I feel sort of

1323
01:06:45,053 --> 01:06:48,373
Speaker 3: mixed on this, like I can really see some upsides

1324
01:06:48,413 --> 01:06:50,693
Speaker 3: to it, and of course you know some downsides as well,

1325
01:06:50,733 --> 01:06:52,693
Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't know. It sounds like a sounds

1326
01:06:52,733 --> 01:06:55,613
Speaker 3: like kind of a novel use of AI, and from

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Speaker 3: from a consumer perspective, it sounds odd. Do you want

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Speaker 3: to say? Kind of good?

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Speaker 20: It's an interesting use case for it, right, Yeah, you're

1330
01:07:03,333 --> 01:07:04,973
Speaker 20: going to get to see the things that matter to you,

1331
01:07:05,133 --> 01:07:06,893
Speaker 20: but you're also going to get it the way that

1332
01:07:07,053 --> 01:07:08,973
Speaker 20: is going to feel familiar, like what if you were

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Speaker 20: just watching it on TV.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so terribly interesting.

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Speaker 20: I'm interested to see what other voices maybe come back

1336
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Speaker 20: from the past.

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Speaker 3: Right, so remember that with Anthony Bourdain that was a

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01:07:18,733 --> 01:07:21,093
Speaker 3: bit creepy and that was very controversial when they did it.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, you're right, you can bring back all sorts

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Speaker 3: of voices with AI. Now, given the state of the technology,

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01:07:26,053 --> 01:07:29,133
Speaker 3: Hey i am Microsoft is facing a multi billion dollar

1342
01:07:29,173 --> 01:07:30,653
Speaker 3: fine in the EU. What's happening?

1343
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Speaker 20: Yeah, so the European Commission has sided with Slack basically

1344
01:07:35,533 --> 01:07:39,573
Speaker 20: to say that when Microsoft put teams in with their

1345
01:07:39,653 --> 01:07:43,133
Speaker 20: office bundle, that that was anti competitive. Slack went to

1346
01:07:43,173 --> 01:07:45,533
Speaker 20: them and said, hey, we've got a collaboration platform. At

1347
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Speaker 20: the time that was really about instant messaging, and they said,

1348
01:07:48,173 --> 01:07:50,013
Speaker 20: how do we compete with this? You know people are

1349
01:07:50,253 --> 01:07:53,733
Speaker 20: getting this for free. We're trying to basically charge people

1350
01:07:53,773 --> 01:07:56,733
Speaker 20: for bucks and months per user. And they have sided

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Speaker 20: with them and said that Microsoft was forcing office customers

1352
01:08:00,693 --> 01:08:03,493
Speaker 20: to acquire teams right. It also does not help and

1353
01:08:03,533 --> 01:08:07,453
Speaker 20: the Commission said this too, that Teams isn't really operable

1354
01:08:07,533 --> 01:08:10,133
Speaker 20: with any other competitors. So it may have looked at

1355
01:08:10,173 --> 01:08:13,373
Speaker 20: it a little more favorably if say it integrated with Slack,

1356
01:08:13,533 --> 01:08:17,133
Speaker 20: or you could easily have Slacked to teams type conversations,

1357
01:08:17,173 --> 01:08:19,013
Speaker 20: and maybe it was a little more of an open

1358
01:08:19,093 --> 01:08:22,133
Speaker 20: standard or open platform. But they said no, and so

1359
01:08:22,413 --> 01:08:24,453
Speaker 20: they could be fined up to ten percent of their

1360
01:08:24,493 --> 01:08:28,973
Speaker 20: global revenue, which puts the fine if they go through

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01:08:29,053 --> 01:08:32,693
Speaker 20: with it, up to twenty one billion US dollars, which

1362
01:08:32,773 --> 01:08:35,533
Speaker 20: is no small sneeze. And it's not the only time

1363
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Speaker 20: actually this week, Jack, that the EU regulators have cracked down.

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01:08:39,813 --> 01:08:43,893
Speaker 20: They've accused Apple two of breaking some of its digital

1365
01:08:43,933 --> 01:08:47,893
Speaker 20: competition rules under the recently past Digital Markets Act, which

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01:08:48,053 --> 01:08:52,293
Speaker 20: basically is trying to allow startups and small companies to

1367
01:08:52,453 --> 01:08:54,933
Speaker 20: actually have a shot at competing against some of these

1368
01:08:55,453 --> 01:08:57,973
Speaker 20: big giants, and this is all to do with how

1369
01:08:58,133 --> 01:09:00,413
Speaker 20: you basically pay for apps on the App Store, So

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Speaker 20: Apple was also been slapped on the rest. It's going

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01:09:03,493 --> 01:09:06,333
Speaker 20: to be fascinating to see how much they actually try

1372
01:09:06,493 --> 01:09:08,733
Speaker 20: to crack down on this, because they really have been

1373
01:09:08,813 --> 01:09:13,133
Speaker 20: leading in many ways some of this tech regulation globally.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fascinating, Thanks, Paul, appreciate it. As always. That

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01:09:16,413 --> 01:09:19,773
Speaker 3: is our texpert, Paul Stenhouse. Before eleven o'clock, we are

1376
01:09:19,973 --> 01:09:22,733
Speaker 3: in the garden with our man Rude climb past. Next up,

1377
01:09:23,053 --> 01:09:24,933
Speaker 3: if you're looking for a good drop this weekend, our

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01:09:25,013 --> 01:09:27,893
Speaker 3: Master of Wine has his recommendation. It's quarter to eleven.

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01:09:29,013 --> 01:09:31,093
Speaker 1: No better way to kick off your weekend than with

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01:09:31,413 --> 01:09:34,693
Speaker 1: Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack, Tay and bepwured on co

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Speaker 1: dot Nz for high quality supplements used Talks EDB.

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Speaker 3: Fourteen to ten on Newstalk's EDB Jack. Will the Democrats

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01:09:41,213 --> 01:09:44,373
Speaker 3: be using AI for the next debate? Honestly, it'd be

1384
01:09:44,413 --> 01:09:46,933
Speaker 3: a significant improvement, wouldn't it. Thank you for that. Ninety

1385
01:09:46,973 --> 01:09:48,853
Speaker 3: two ninety two as our text number. It's time to

1386
01:09:48,893 --> 01:09:51,133
Speaker 3: catch up with our Master of Wine, Bob Campbell for

1387
01:09:51,253 --> 01:09:53,573
Speaker 3: his best buy this week and he has chosen an

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01:09:53,693 --> 01:09:57,413
Speaker 3: Alan Scott cecerely a brute from Marlborough for twenty four dollars.

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01:09:57,453 --> 01:09:58,573
Speaker 3: So why did you pick this, Bob?

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01:09:59,813 --> 01:10:03,693
Speaker 14: Well, I haven't chosen a struggling wine in a while,

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01:10:03,893 --> 01:10:06,933
Speaker 14: so I thought we were over due for a good,

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01:10:07,173 --> 01:10:11,853
Speaker 14: a good sticky as busy. Well, I should say I

1393
01:10:12,013 --> 01:10:15,693
Speaker 14: also like it very much, especially at that price, So

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01:10:16,293 --> 01:10:21,133
Speaker 14: that's a motive. It's a perfect stand by wine. Sparkling

1395
01:10:21,173 --> 01:10:23,693
Speaker 14: wine is a perfect stand by wine in case of

1396
01:10:23,813 --> 01:10:27,373
Speaker 14: unexpected visitors, and with the sort of weather we're having

1397
01:10:27,413 --> 01:10:32,733
Speaker 14: at the moment, expect visitors. I mean people should want

1398
01:10:32,733 --> 01:10:37,053
Speaker 14: to get out and get the get that gorgeous summer

1399
01:10:37,373 --> 01:10:43,613
Speaker 14: weather in the winter. It's also a real crowd pleaser.

1400
01:10:43,653 --> 01:10:47,853
Speaker 14: Who doesn't like sparkling wine. I mean it's so you're

1401
01:10:47,933 --> 01:10:50,293
Speaker 14: on a winner there. And as I say, it's a

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01:10:50,333 --> 01:10:55,813
Speaker 14: wine for all seasons. It's uh just just the perfect

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01:10:55,853 --> 01:10:57,173
Speaker 14: wine for the for the moment.

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01:10:57,493 --> 01:10:58,453
Speaker 3: It's what does it taste like?

1405
01:11:00,973 --> 01:11:05,773
Speaker 14: Well, it's a blend of pino noir and chardney and

1406
01:11:05,853 --> 01:11:10,813
Speaker 14: it's got a really creamy yeastern fused palette that's both

1407
01:11:10,973 --> 01:11:13,933
Speaker 14: fresh and mellow. It's got a bit of maturity, but

1408
01:11:14,013 --> 01:11:16,853
Speaker 14: it's but it's got freshness as well, which I like.

1409
01:11:19,093 --> 01:11:19,133
Speaker 7: It.

1410
01:11:20,653 --> 01:11:24,013
Speaker 14: It's got a perfect balance of sort of subtle sweetness

1411
01:11:24,053 --> 01:11:27,213
Speaker 14: you're hardly aware of it, and mouth watering acidity that

1412
01:11:27,493 --> 01:11:30,613
Speaker 14: that's very refreshing. It really really gives the line a

1413
01:11:30,773 --> 01:11:31,493
Speaker 14: terrific lift.

1414
01:11:31,773 --> 01:11:35,013
Speaker 3: And you reckon it's pretty good value. Why is it

1415
01:11:35,093 --> 01:11:35,813
Speaker 3: such a good bargain?

1416
01:11:37,013 --> 01:11:41,693
Speaker 14: Well, bottle famented starkling wine is expensive to make. You

1417
01:11:41,773 --> 01:11:44,773
Speaker 14: won't find too many good examples under twenty five dollars,

1418
01:11:45,053 --> 01:11:49,253
Speaker 14: and this is a standout in that category, so it's

1419
01:11:49,373 --> 01:11:49,893
Speaker 14: just a winner.

1420
01:11:51,653 --> 01:11:53,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, where can you pick it up?

1421
01:11:55,453 --> 01:11:55,653
Speaker 7: Well?

1422
01:11:55,693 --> 01:11:58,133
Speaker 14: I found the best prize I found was from Whisky

1423
01:11:58,253 --> 01:12:01,173
Speaker 14: and More in the White Kaddow and it was twenty

1424
01:12:01,413 --> 01:12:07,453
Speaker 14: dollars ninety nine. Big barrel stores I found a few

1425
01:12:07,573 --> 01:12:11,573
Speaker 14: were carrying it at less than twenty three dollars. Glengarry

1426
01:12:11,613 --> 01:12:13,973
Speaker 14: in Auckland twenty two ninety nine is a good price.

1427
01:12:14,053 --> 01:12:17,133
Speaker 3: So no, yeah, and where would you what would you

1428
01:12:17,173 --> 01:12:17,613
Speaker 3: met your web?

1429
01:12:18,933 --> 01:12:24,133
Speaker 14: Well, Canna Pays is the knee jerk sort of choice

1430
01:12:24,173 --> 01:12:29,773
Speaker 14: for striking wine, especially seafood, particularly oysters. I love oysters

1431
01:12:29,813 --> 01:12:34,653
Speaker 14: a not everybody does, of course, and it also like

1432
01:12:35,253 --> 01:12:38,733
Speaker 14: have a good method champ nonoires. It doesn't need the

1433
01:12:38,813 --> 01:12:42,453
Speaker 14: complication of food, so it's quite on its sign.

1434
01:12:42,373 --> 01:12:45,173
Speaker 15: And what it keep do you think it's good for

1435
01:12:45,213 --> 01:12:45,773
Speaker 15: a few years.

1436
01:12:45,853 --> 01:12:49,173
Speaker 14: But the problem is it isn't vintage dated at most

1437
01:12:49,293 --> 01:12:53,893
Speaker 14: aren't and so you never know all it is. So

1438
01:12:54,093 --> 01:12:56,133
Speaker 14: my advice is drawing it up and enjoy it.

1439
01:12:56,573 --> 01:12:58,933
Speaker 3: Very good. Thanks Bob, appreciate your time. That's our master

1440
01:12:59,013 --> 01:13:01,373
Speaker 3: of wine. Bob Campbell has wine this week and Alan

1441
01:13:01,453 --> 01:13:04,773
Speaker 3: Scott Cecilia Brute from Marlborough for twenty four dollars. It's

1442
01:13:04,813 --> 01:13:09,693
Speaker 3: ten to eleven. Today we have Lisa from Beep.

1443
01:13:10,373 --> 01:13:14,133
Speaker 1: Gardening with still Shop free accessories this winter at still Shot.

1444
01:13:14,213 --> 01:13:16,573
Speaker 3: Tell you what is the weekend for anyone who enjoys

1445
01:13:16,613 --> 01:13:19,133
Speaker 3: a bit of the outdoors. So if you like counting things,

1446
01:13:19,853 --> 01:13:21,333
Speaker 3: you don't want to count sheep, you want to count

1447
01:13:21,373 --> 01:13:23,973
Speaker 3: other animals. Good news the Whale and Dolphin Count. The

1448
01:13:24,013 --> 01:13:26,173
Speaker 3: official Whale and Dolphin Count is this weekend, So if

1449
01:13:26,213 --> 01:13:29,253
Speaker 3: you happen to be out on the water and you

1450
01:13:29,453 --> 01:13:33,173
Speaker 3: come across some migrating whales, make sure you take part

1451
01:13:33,213 --> 01:13:34,773
Speaker 3: in the Whale and Dolphin Count. But of course the

1452
01:13:34,893 --> 01:13:37,893
Speaker 3: annual Garden Bird survey begins this weekend as well. It

1453
01:13:37,933 --> 01:13:39,773
Speaker 3: goes for about a week or so, I think maybe

1454
01:13:39,853 --> 01:13:42,973
Speaker 3: nine days or so. So yeah, lots happening this weekend

1455
01:13:43,053 --> 01:13:45,693
Speaker 3: on that front. Now, Man in the garden root climb past,

1456
01:13:45,733 --> 01:13:48,973
Speaker 3: I'm sure will be counting everything every which way. Good morning, sir,

1457
01:13:49,973 --> 01:13:50,773
Speaker 3: I certainly will.

1458
01:13:50,853 --> 01:13:53,533
Speaker 2: Good morning Jack. By the way, they're also doing spoon

1459
01:13:53,613 --> 01:13:55,253
Speaker 2: bill counts here in Lake Ellesmere.

1460
01:13:55,333 --> 01:13:59,013
Speaker 3: Oh, very good, just say it. Yeah nothing, they're not

1461
01:13:59,133 --> 01:14:00,373
Speaker 3: counting really, yeah.

1462
01:14:00,413 --> 01:14:01,093
Speaker 2: No, that's right.

1463
01:14:01,173 --> 01:14:01,293
Speaker 7: Now.

1464
01:14:02,853 --> 01:14:06,493
Speaker 2: Why don't we start counting in nitrogen and carbon for

1465
01:14:06,613 --> 01:14:08,253
Speaker 2: a change. Let's make some compost.

1466
01:14:08,573 --> 01:14:10,253
Speaker 3: Okay, very good, Well that makes it.

1467
01:14:10,453 --> 01:14:11,493
Speaker 2: Do you have a compost then?

1468
01:14:11,933 --> 01:14:14,493
Speaker 3: I do have a compost bin, but it's mainly it's

1469
01:14:15,013 --> 01:14:17,093
Speaker 3: very grass clippings heavy, I've got to be honest.

1470
01:14:18,413 --> 01:14:21,213
Speaker 2: Yes, I would expect so. And then after a couple

1471
01:14:21,293 --> 01:14:23,493
Speaker 2: of months it becomes quite slimy and yucky.

1472
01:14:23,693 --> 01:14:25,173
Speaker 3: Yeah it does. And I just shove it out the

1473
01:14:25,213 --> 01:14:27,133
Speaker 3: bottom and then go and chuck it on the garden basically.

1474
01:14:27,253 --> 01:14:28,973
Speaker 3: But I've put a few leaves in there as well,

1475
01:14:29,133 --> 01:14:29,933
Speaker 3: a bit of nitrogen.

1476
01:14:30,053 --> 01:14:32,653
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, But hang on the grass, what

1477
01:14:32,733 --> 01:14:33,853
Speaker 2: do you think the grass.

1478
01:14:33,613 --> 01:14:36,493
Speaker 3: Is nitrogen leaves.

1479
01:14:36,773 --> 01:14:37,413
Speaker 11: Yeah, you got it.

1480
01:14:37,533 --> 01:14:40,053
Speaker 2: So you're quite heavy on the nitrogen. So what I

1481
01:14:40,173 --> 01:14:42,333
Speaker 2: want you to do is go and see somebody who

1482
01:14:42,493 --> 01:14:46,973
Speaker 2: actually knows how to cut trees and chip it them down. Yeah,

1483
01:14:49,333 --> 01:14:52,573
Speaker 2: and put those chips in your bin as well, because

1484
01:14:52,653 --> 01:14:54,813
Speaker 2: generally speaking, and a lot of people don't realize that.

1485
01:14:55,053 --> 01:14:57,853
Speaker 2: For if you have a ratio of carbon to nitrogen,

1486
01:14:57,973 --> 01:15:02,773
Speaker 2: you need thirty carbon to one nitrogen. That is about

1487
01:15:02,813 --> 01:15:05,693
Speaker 2: how so too much NuGen becomes really slippery and slimy.

1488
01:15:05,853 --> 01:15:08,813
Speaker 2: Yeah right, Actually that's so that's quite an important one.

1489
01:15:09,253 --> 01:15:12,373
Speaker 2: So if you're talking about compost starters, for instance, you

1490
01:15:12,413 --> 01:15:13,893
Speaker 2: know you can buy compost starters.

1491
01:15:14,093 --> 01:15:14,293
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1492
01:15:14,453 --> 01:15:18,893
Speaker 2: Do you think do you think nature used to use status? No, No,

1493
01:15:19,133 --> 01:15:23,093
Speaker 2: I don't think so. If you keep your thirty to one,

1494
01:15:23,253 --> 01:15:25,653
Speaker 2: if you like got twenty five to one carbon to nitrogen,

1495
01:15:25,893 --> 01:15:28,573
Speaker 2: you've got to start to basically built into the whole thing.

1496
01:15:28,973 --> 01:15:31,413
Speaker 2: And I love that sort of stuff. Here's another one

1497
01:15:31,493 --> 01:15:33,733
Speaker 2: I've just I've actually been doing all the myths. You

1498
01:15:33,813 --> 01:15:36,453
Speaker 2: can now get it. They're the greatest myths for gardeners.

1499
01:15:37,373 --> 01:15:39,733
Speaker 4: Crushed shells. If you've got problems with.

1500
01:15:39,733 --> 01:15:42,373
Speaker 2: Slugs and snails, you put crushed shells down because that's

1501
01:15:42,413 --> 01:15:45,853
Speaker 2: of course a very sharp material on which which the

1502
01:15:46,733 --> 01:15:49,413
Speaker 2: on which the shells that what do you call it?

1503
01:15:49,493 --> 01:15:53,453
Speaker 2: The oh, my goodness, shells, eggs, shells, you got it,

1504
01:15:53,573 --> 01:15:55,693
Speaker 2: that sort of stuff. So what you then get is

1505
01:15:55,973 --> 01:15:58,733
Speaker 2: you everybody says, slugs and snails can't stop go over

1506
01:15:58,813 --> 01:16:02,453
Speaker 2: that because it's too sharp for them. Sorry, doesn't work,

1507
01:16:02,693 --> 01:16:05,413
Speaker 2: because these slugs and snails will not go on the

1508
01:16:05,493 --> 01:16:08,733
Speaker 2: surface direct They actually go on the slime that they produce.

1509
01:16:08,973 --> 01:16:10,653
Speaker 4: Huh, So they're never.

1510
01:16:10,653 --> 01:16:13,693
Speaker 2: In touch with those shells. So forget about that. And

1511
01:16:13,853 --> 01:16:16,053
Speaker 2: if you then put that same stuff, for instance, these

1512
01:16:16,133 --> 01:16:19,493
Speaker 2: crushed shells into your compost bin, it takes a lot

1513
01:16:19,573 --> 01:16:22,173
Speaker 2: of time for that to become a little bit of

1514
01:16:22,493 --> 01:16:26,493
Speaker 2: of fertilizer, and be quite honest, a lot of years.

1515
01:16:26,773 --> 01:16:30,453
Speaker 2: That is absolutely the time it takes to literally get

1516
01:16:30,533 --> 01:16:34,253
Speaker 2: those fertilizers into the system. And on the other hand,

1517
01:16:34,333 --> 01:16:36,813
Speaker 2: you don't really get much calcium and things like that

1518
01:16:36,933 --> 01:16:39,173
Speaker 2: from those shells, so you might as well not bother

1519
01:16:39,293 --> 01:16:43,333
Speaker 2: too much, just chuck it in and forget about it. Yeah, Hey,

1520
01:16:43,493 --> 01:16:46,853
Speaker 2: speeding up composting. A lot of people say you need aeration,

1521
01:16:47,013 --> 01:16:50,213
Speaker 2: that's right, and we need to turn the heap, you know,

1522
01:16:50,293 --> 01:16:52,813
Speaker 2: with a fork or a spade, So every now and

1523
01:16:52,853 --> 01:16:54,813
Speaker 2: then you turn it off to be quite honest, check,

1524
01:16:55,133 --> 01:16:57,733
Speaker 2: I've just done my back in. Oh no, I fell

1525
01:16:57,773 --> 01:17:01,133
Speaker 2: off the second story of of what you call it,

1526
01:17:01,213 --> 01:17:06,613
Speaker 2: the double bed you know, bed double bed bug bed? Yeah, yes,

1527
01:17:07,413 --> 01:17:10,413
Speaker 2: and yeah, so I can't really dig much at the moment.

1528
01:17:10,493 --> 01:17:12,213
Speaker 2: And besides I don't have time to dig.

1529
01:17:12,933 --> 01:17:13,973
Speaker 6: And what does nature do?

1530
01:17:14,373 --> 01:17:19,653
Speaker 2: Nature chucks things down and basically it will mix itself, right,

1531
01:17:20,653 --> 01:17:24,253
Speaker 2: especially the creatures that live under the compost. Can I say,

1532
01:17:24,573 --> 01:17:27,293
Speaker 2: rats and mice that make tunnels, et cetera, et cetera,

1533
01:17:27,333 --> 01:17:27,773
Speaker 2: et cetera.

1534
01:17:28,013 --> 01:17:31,933
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're doing a really good job, there are on

1535
01:17:32,133 --> 01:17:32,533
Speaker 4: the point.

1536
01:17:33,053 --> 01:17:33,813
Speaker 11: Yeah, you got it.

1537
01:17:33,933 --> 01:17:36,493
Speaker 2: So there's so many of these different things. Have a

1538
01:17:36,533 --> 01:17:39,893
Speaker 2: look on the website that they'll be put together for you,

1539
01:17:40,213 --> 01:17:42,213
Speaker 2: and you'll find all the things about can you put

1540
01:17:42,293 --> 01:17:44,533
Speaker 2: cooked food in the compost bed? Can you put pool

1541
01:17:44,573 --> 01:17:47,933
Speaker 2: in the compost bed? Dead animals, left over meat? Of

1542
01:17:48,053 --> 01:17:52,453
Speaker 2: course you can, because everything that once lived can be composted.

1543
01:17:52,893 --> 01:17:55,613
Speaker 3: Very good, Okay, thank you. Yeah, that device is all

1544
01:17:55,733 --> 01:17:57,693
Speaker 3: up on the news talks he'd be website newstalks, he'd

1545
01:17:57,733 --> 01:17:59,653
Speaker 3: be or code on in did Ford's last jet you

1546
01:17:59,773 --> 01:18:02,693
Speaker 3: get well, rude, hope you're feeling a bit better. It's

1547
01:18:02,693 --> 01:18:05,573
Speaker 3: almost eleven o'clock, which means news is next. You reject

1548
01:18:05,613 --> 01:18:07,853
Speaker 3: timet Saturday Morning, and this is news Talk's.

1549
01:18:07,693 --> 01:18:11,973
Speaker 1: EDB Saturday Mornings with Jack Ta keeping the conversation going

1550
01:18:12,093 --> 01:18:15,253
Speaker 1: through the weekend with Bpere dot co dot inst for

1551
01:18:15,373 --> 01:18:17,533
Speaker 1: high quality supplements News Talks EDB.

1552
01:18:40,453 --> 01:18:44,853
Speaker 3: Well, how about that? My goodness, you see, this is it.

1553
01:18:45,013 --> 01:18:47,453
Speaker 3: We're on the cutting edge. On Saturday Mornings on Newstalk's

1554
01:18:47,573 --> 01:18:51,173
Speaker 3: EDB nine o'clock. I start the show saying that's it

1555
01:18:51,293 --> 01:18:54,373
Speaker 3: for Biden. He's done, he's done, He's done. Less than

1556
01:18:54,453 --> 01:18:57,173
Speaker 3: two hours later, the New York Times editorial Board, who

1557
01:18:57,253 --> 01:19:00,893
Speaker 3: no doubt are keen listeners to Saturday Mornings on Newstalks EDB,

1558
01:19:01,613 --> 01:19:05,653
Speaker 3: come out and call on the president to end his campaign. Yep,

1559
01:19:05,733 --> 01:19:07,813
Speaker 3: that's right. The New Times editorial board has called on

1560
01:19:07,893 --> 01:19:10,253
Speaker 3: Joe Biden to drop out of the race. I'm just

1561
01:19:10,293 --> 01:19:11,733
Speaker 3: going to read to you a couple of lines from

1562
01:19:11,773 --> 01:19:15,013
Speaker 3: their editorial that has just been published. Quote. Mister Biden

1563
01:19:15,053 --> 01:19:17,213
Speaker 3: has said he is the candidate with the best chance

1564
01:19:17,293 --> 01:19:20,333
Speaker 3: of taking on the threat of tyranny and defeating it.

1565
01:19:20,693 --> 01:19:23,493
Speaker 3: His argument rests largely on the fact that he beats

1566
01:19:23,533 --> 01:19:26,813
Speaker 3: Donald Trump in twenty twenty. And get this, there is

1567
01:19:26,933 --> 01:19:30,173
Speaker 3: no longer a sufficient that is no longer a sufficient

1568
01:19:30,253 --> 01:19:33,653
Speaker 3: rationale for why Joe Biden should be the Democratic nominee

1569
01:19:33,693 --> 01:19:37,493
Speaker 3: this year. That is, from the perspective of the President,

1570
01:19:37,573 --> 01:19:42,133
Speaker 3: Joe Biden absolutely devastating, absolutely devastating. It's going to be

1571
01:19:42,173 --> 01:19:45,493
Speaker 3: so intriguing to see how the White House and Joe

1572
01:19:45,533 --> 01:19:48,813
Speaker 3: Biden's campaign team respond to that. But to have the

1573
01:19:48,893 --> 01:19:50,893
Speaker 3: New York Times editorial board come out and say he

1574
01:19:50,933 --> 01:19:53,133
Speaker 3: should drop out of the race just five months before

1575
01:19:53,173 --> 01:19:56,053
Speaker 3: the election really is devastating. Right now, it is eight

1576
01:19:56,133 --> 01:20:00,533
Speaker 3: minutes past eleven on Newstalk zb Jack. It's the twenty

1577
01:20:00,613 --> 01:20:05,413
Speaker 3: ninth of June, this Martiniki weekend, which means we are

1578
01:20:05,493 --> 01:20:09,613
Speaker 3: a day away from being halfway through the year. That's insane,

1579
01:20:09,693 --> 01:20:12,973
Speaker 3: isn't it. It also means that we're about to start July,

1580
01:20:13,133 --> 01:20:16,413
Speaker 3: and for many kiwis, July is an opportunity to take

1581
01:20:16,613 --> 01:20:18,693
Speaker 3: a bit of a pause when it comes to drinking.

1582
01:20:19,053 --> 01:20:22,453
Speaker 3: Dougal Sutherland from Umbrella Well Being, as a clinical psychologist

1583
01:20:22,493 --> 01:20:24,333
Speaker 3: who's with US this morning, counter doogal.

1584
01:20:25,253 --> 01:20:28,053
Speaker 8: You're a jack happy happy matiki to you.

1585
01:20:28,213 --> 01:20:30,613
Speaker 3: Did you did you catch up with your better half

1586
01:20:30,733 --> 01:20:32,333
Speaker 3: this week? Bony chance?

1587
01:20:34,413 --> 01:20:34,733
Speaker 5: I did.

1588
01:20:34,813 --> 01:20:37,773
Speaker 15: She said she'd bumped into you, or perhaps I don't know,

1589
01:20:37,853 --> 01:20:40,053
Speaker 15: bumping into your quite right to made herself known to

1590
01:20:41,093 --> 01:20:42,053
Speaker 15: get her own celebrity.

1591
01:20:43,493 --> 01:20:45,013
Speaker 3: Celebrity is a bit of a streets but it was

1592
01:20:45,093 --> 01:20:47,453
Speaker 3: so nice. I was so just for our listeners and

1593
01:20:47,573 --> 01:20:50,973
Speaker 3: unaware of us I was. I was standing on the

1594
01:20:51,013 --> 01:20:53,813
Speaker 3: side of the street on Molsworth Street outside outside the

1595
01:20:53,853 --> 01:20:57,053
Speaker 3: Beehive the other day and a very friendly person came

1596
01:20:57,133 --> 01:20:59,053
Speaker 3: up to me and said, Hi Jack, Hi Jack, Hi Jack.

1597
01:20:59,093 --> 01:21:00,853
Speaker 3: I said hi, and I did that thing with just

1598
01:21:00,933 --> 01:21:04,373
Speaker 3: for a second, I searched her face, subconsciously thinking do

1599
01:21:04,533 --> 01:21:07,173
Speaker 3: I do I know that this person? I'm should And

1600
01:21:07,293 --> 01:21:09,693
Speaker 3: she said, oh, I'm really sorry. I'm Google Sutherlan's wife.

1601
01:21:09,773 --> 01:21:10,253
Speaker 4: So there you go.

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01:21:10,493 --> 01:21:12,293
Speaker 3: It was lovely, lovely to speak with her.

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01:21:13,693 --> 01:21:16,613
Speaker 19: Thank you, you know, she texted me, since you've seen.

1604
01:21:16,453 --> 01:21:20,413
Speaker 3: You, Yeah, small world. Anyway, Drive July in a couple

1605
01:21:20,453 --> 01:21:22,733
Speaker 3: of days, and it is a really good opportunity, whether

1606
01:21:22,813 --> 01:21:25,253
Speaker 3: or not you are participating in Drive July or otherwise,

1607
01:21:25,693 --> 01:21:30,453
Speaker 3: to pause and take stock a little bit of alcohol use.

1608
01:21:30,613 --> 01:21:34,053
Speaker 3: And it is just an incredibly stressful moment in time

1609
01:21:34,173 --> 01:21:36,893
Speaker 3: right now, And it's kind of understandable that lots of

1610
01:21:36,933 --> 01:21:39,693
Speaker 3: people might be drinking a bit more than they would

1611
01:21:39,813 --> 01:21:43,453
Speaker 3: like to be. But yeah, you know, the stress of

1612
01:21:43,533 --> 01:21:45,773
Speaker 3: this moment, whether it's the economy or anything else, can

1613
01:21:45,893 --> 01:21:49,693
Speaker 3: lead to some pretty you know, unhealthy behaviors.

1614
01:21:49,213 --> 01:21:55,133
Speaker 15: Right, yeah, absolutely, I mean yeah, even without the whole

1615
01:21:55,173 --> 01:21:57,053
Speaker 15: drive your life thing, it's just as you say, very

1616
01:21:57,693 --> 01:21:59,613
Speaker 15: it's a stressful time for lots of people. And when

1617
01:22:00,133 --> 01:22:02,293
Speaker 15: we know that when people are stressed, they sort of

1618
01:22:03,653 --> 01:22:05,693
Speaker 15: and we can all do this, we can kind of

1619
01:22:05,733 --> 01:22:08,493
Speaker 15: slip into unhealthy behaviors. You know, you eat a bit

1620
01:22:08,573 --> 01:22:11,613
Speaker 15: more junk food than you want to, You perhaps don't

1621
01:22:11,733 --> 01:22:14,653
Speaker 15: exercise as much. And the other thing I guess is

1622
01:22:14,693 --> 01:22:17,213
Speaker 15: that you can end up just gradually drinking a bit

1623
01:22:17,293 --> 01:22:18,813
Speaker 15: more and a bit more and a bit more than

1624
01:22:18,933 --> 01:22:20,533
Speaker 15: maybe is ideally good for you.

1625
01:22:20,853 --> 01:22:22,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, it can be a bit of a bit of

1626
01:22:22,933 --> 01:22:26,813
Speaker 3: a slippery slope pain. And I think you know, and

1627
01:22:26,893 --> 01:22:30,893
Speaker 3: I'm saying this from personal experience, like some of those

1628
01:22:30,973 --> 01:22:33,733
Speaker 3: behaviors are kind of self rewarding, right, Like you say,

1629
01:22:33,853 --> 01:22:36,573
Speaker 3: I just need to relax or I've got through the

1630
01:22:36,613 --> 01:22:39,493
Speaker 3: week and it's a reward or you know whatever else.

1631
01:22:40,773 --> 01:22:43,973
Speaker 15: Yeah, absolutely, I mean I think we often do that.

1632
01:22:44,093 --> 01:22:47,813
Speaker 15: We kind of justify our alcohol use by going, oh, well,

1633
01:22:47,893 --> 01:22:49,573
Speaker 15: you know, it has been tough and I just need

1634
01:22:49,693 --> 01:22:52,573
Speaker 15: this to unwind and to relax. And of course, if

1635
01:22:52,613 --> 01:22:55,653
Speaker 15: you're using it to unwind and relax and it's more

1636
01:22:55,733 --> 01:22:57,773
Speaker 15: stressful in your life than you might find that you're

1637
01:22:57,813 --> 01:22:59,293
Speaker 15: gradually using it more and more.

1638
01:22:59,213 --> 01:23:01,133
Speaker 19: Because life is more stressful and you do need to

1639
01:23:01,173 --> 01:23:01,733
Speaker 19: relax more.

1640
01:23:02,413 --> 01:23:04,053
Speaker 15: And so, as you said, it's a bit of a

1641
01:23:04,093 --> 01:23:07,213
Speaker 15: slippery slope and it can be look at kevi if

1642
01:23:07,253 --> 01:23:10,253
Speaker 15: it full to take up you lead a healthy lifestyle.

1643
01:23:10,293 --> 01:23:12,373
Speaker 15: It takes willpower, and it takes a bit of you know,

1644
01:23:12,493 --> 01:23:14,933
Speaker 15: it takes a bit of planning and strength and mental

1645
01:23:14,973 --> 01:23:17,413
Speaker 15: strength and that kind of thing. So it's not surprising

1646
01:23:17,453 --> 01:23:19,373
Speaker 15: and it's not a blame game at all. It's just

1647
01:23:20,213 --> 01:23:22,973
Speaker 15: a good opportunity to recognize what you're doing and to

1648
01:23:23,053 --> 01:23:24,413
Speaker 15: stop and have a bit of a look at and

1649
01:23:24,853 --> 01:23:25,973
Speaker 15: you know what you are consuming.

1650
01:23:26,093 --> 01:23:28,693
Speaker 3: Are there some some kind of telltale signs that maybe

1651
01:23:29,173 --> 01:23:32,173
Speaker 3: your alcohol use is becoming a bit more problematic?

1652
01:23:33,533 --> 01:23:35,853
Speaker 15: I mean, the obvious one is that you're obviously spending

1653
01:23:35,933 --> 01:23:39,253
Speaker 15: more money, or you know you have more you know,

1654
01:23:39,293 --> 01:23:41,373
Speaker 15: there are more bottles in the recycling or whatever. But

1655
01:23:42,973 --> 01:23:44,973
Speaker 15: I think some other signs are that it becomes a

1656
01:23:45,013 --> 01:23:48,413
Speaker 15: little bit more difficult to enjoy yourself or to have

1657
01:23:48,533 --> 01:23:53,293
Speaker 15: a social occasion without alcohol, or somebody might have made

1658
01:23:53,373 --> 01:23:54,653
Speaker 15: some sort of pass and commented that.

1659
01:23:54,693 --> 01:23:59,773
Speaker 3: You know, oh gosh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1660
01:23:59,973 --> 01:24:02,013
Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah, that sort of thing. Oh, you drinking, I

1661
01:24:02,093 --> 01:24:02,493
Speaker 19: think too.

1662
01:24:02,653 --> 01:24:06,213
Speaker 15: The other thing is that you gradually end up drinking

1663
01:24:06,453 --> 01:24:09,813
Speaker 15: more days than you perhaps used to in the past.

1664
01:24:09,893 --> 01:24:12,773
Speaker 15: You know, maybe you only drink alcohol on a at

1665
01:24:12,813 --> 01:24:14,493
Speaker 15: the weekend, and all of a sudden that's sort of

1666
01:24:14,573 --> 01:24:16,573
Speaker 15: Tuesday or Wednesday, and you're having oh I just don't

1667
01:24:16,573 --> 01:24:19,613
Speaker 15: have a bottle of glass of wine or whatever. And

1668
01:24:20,133 --> 01:24:23,253
Speaker 15: that's another telltale sign that it's just leaking out sort

1669
01:24:23,293 --> 01:24:26,293
Speaker 15: of more than perhaps that you would usually drink.

1670
01:24:26,453 --> 01:24:28,293
Speaker 3: Yeah. Sure. So what would be your tips then, for

1671
01:24:28,333 --> 01:24:30,933
Speaker 3: anyone considering drive July or a bit of a pause

1672
01:24:30,973 --> 01:24:32,733
Speaker 3: on their alcohol intake. What would you suggest?

1673
01:24:33,613 --> 01:24:36,293
Speaker 19: Well, and I think even if you know, I would

1674
01:24:36,373 --> 01:24:37,213
Speaker 19: say too, you don't have to be.

1675
01:24:37,213 --> 01:24:39,653
Speaker 15: A raging alcoholic to sort of do dried your live

1676
01:24:39,893 --> 01:24:41,533
Speaker 15: if you were, I sometimes think of it, if you

1677
01:24:41,693 --> 01:24:43,013
Speaker 15: dry curious, you know.

1678
01:24:43,053 --> 01:24:43,893
Speaker 8: What would it be like?

1679
01:24:44,533 --> 01:24:44,693
Speaker 4: You know?

1680
01:24:45,013 --> 01:24:49,053
Speaker 15: Yeah, then make a commitment. And we know that if

1681
01:24:49,173 --> 01:24:52,853
Speaker 15: people make a commitment, either by writing it down or

1682
01:24:53,293 --> 01:24:56,773
Speaker 15: by telling somebody else, that can often help us stick

1683
01:24:56,893 --> 01:24:59,253
Speaker 15: to that sort of commitment to do a new thing.

1684
01:24:59,493 --> 01:25:04,773
Speaker 15: So that's one thing is writing it down, keeping a diary,

1685
01:25:04,973 --> 01:25:09,893
Speaker 15: and really keeping a diary focused on not not kind

1686
01:25:09,933 --> 01:25:12,053
Speaker 15: of didn't have any drink today, didn't have any drink today,

1687
01:25:12,093 --> 01:25:14,093
Speaker 15: but more what you did do instead?

1688
01:25:14,173 --> 01:25:14,213
Speaker 21: What?

1689
01:25:14,373 --> 01:25:16,693
Speaker 15: Actually, how has your life become a bit richer and

1690
01:25:16,733 --> 01:25:19,253
Speaker 15: a bit better? What have you managed to fit in?

1691
01:25:19,413 --> 01:25:21,053
Speaker 15: Maybe you've got more money and you're able to go

1692
01:25:21,093 --> 01:25:22,933
Speaker 15: out for dinner or you know, buy I don't know,

1693
01:25:23,013 --> 01:25:25,413
Speaker 15: whatever it is, because you had a little bit more money.

1694
01:25:25,493 --> 01:25:28,733
Speaker 15: So I think keeping a diary to really make it

1695
01:25:28,933 --> 01:25:30,373
Speaker 15: salient in your life.

1696
01:25:30,453 --> 01:25:32,133
Speaker 19: What what what benefit you're getting?

1697
01:25:32,453 --> 01:25:32,613
Speaker 18: Right?

1698
01:25:32,693 --> 01:25:38,693
Speaker 3: Okay, that's interesting. Yeah, So basically trying to have some

1699
01:25:39,413 --> 01:25:43,013
Speaker 3: kind of third party measures for accountability, right.

1700
01:25:43,773 --> 01:25:45,413
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, yeah.

1701
01:25:45,333 --> 01:25:49,133
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, And we know that almost if you're writing

1702
01:25:49,253 --> 01:25:52,013
Speaker 15: things down, you almost act as your own third party.

1703
01:25:52,053 --> 01:25:55,733
Speaker 15: If that doesn't sound too weird. Yeah, accountable to yourself.

1704
01:25:56,813 --> 01:25:56,893
Speaker 7: Now.

1705
01:25:57,013 --> 01:25:58,933
Speaker 15: The thing I'd say too is if you do sort

1706
01:25:58,933 --> 01:26:02,373
Speaker 15: of cut down, don't try to avoid, if possible, having

1707
01:26:02,413 --> 01:26:04,613
Speaker 15: the whole sort of notion that come the end of

1708
01:26:04,693 --> 01:26:07,533
Speaker 15: July blow out, you know, and I'm just going to

1709
01:26:07,613 --> 01:26:09,933
Speaker 15: make up for it again. That's because that's really just

1710
01:26:09,973 --> 01:26:12,373
Speaker 15: sort of going back into a bit of a binging pattern.

1711
01:26:13,293 --> 01:26:15,493
Speaker 15: And and it may it may be that you get

1712
01:26:15,493 --> 01:26:17,173
Speaker 15: to the end of the months and go and that's

1713
01:26:17,213 --> 01:26:19,093
Speaker 15: a really great time to take stock and go, actually,

1714
01:26:19,173 --> 01:26:20,613
Speaker 15: how has this month been for me?

1715
01:26:20,733 --> 01:26:21,373
Speaker 19: What have I learned?

1716
01:26:21,413 --> 01:26:24,413
Speaker 15: What have I what have I gained from this month?

1717
01:26:24,533 --> 01:26:27,093
Speaker 15: And how do I take that and go forward with

1718
01:26:27,213 --> 01:26:28,973
Speaker 15: it rather than just going, well, that's it and I've

1719
01:26:28,973 --> 01:26:30,893
Speaker 15: done it, and now I'll just get really you know,

1720
01:26:31,293 --> 01:26:32,293
Speaker 15: blotto this weekend.

1721
01:26:32,453 --> 01:26:32,653
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1722
01:26:32,853 --> 01:26:35,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got a lot of friends who, you know,

1723
01:26:35,373 --> 01:26:38,013
Speaker 3: who in the last couple of years have have decided

1724
01:26:38,093 --> 01:26:41,373
Speaker 3: to you know, to go alcohol free or to massively

1725
01:26:41,613 --> 01:26:44,213
Speaker 3: cut down on their alcohol intake. And I'm yet to

1726
01:26:44,253 --> 01:26:47,013
Speaker 3: come across someone who has gone through that and has

1727
01:26:47,013 --> 01:26:48,733
Speaker 3: said it's been a bad thing in their life.

1728
01:26:49,173 --> 01:26:49,333
Speaker 4: You know.

1729
01:26:49,653 --> 01:26:50,853
Speaker 19: Yeah, absolutely, it's.

1730
01:26:51,093 --> 01:26:53,973
Speaker 3: You know, it's no one seems to have had you know,

1731
01:26:54,133 --> 01:26:56,133
Speaker 3: regrets when they when they decide to make a decision

1732
01:26:56,213 --> 01:26:59,573
Speaker 3: like that. And I suppose, you know, an opportunity to

1733
01:26:59,653 --> 01:27:02,213
Speaker 3: like driver lie actually means that people can can take

1734
01:27:02,293 --> 01:27:04,453
Speaker 3: stock a little bit and and maybe take a bit

1735
01:27:04,493 --> 01:27:07,653
Speaker 3: of support from having other people around them going through

1736
01:27:08,293 --> 01:27:09,253
Speaker 3: some of the little period.

1737
01:27:10,333 --> 01:27:10,973
Speaker 19: Yeah, I think so.

1738
01:27:11,173 --> 01:27:14,453
Speaker 15: You know, again, it's that sort of accountability and not

1739
01:27:14,653 --> 01:27:16,613
Speaker 15: just sort of I'm accountable to somebody, but also the

1740
01:27:16,733 --> 01:27:18,693
Speaker 15: sense of I'm doing it with other people, and that

1741
01:27:18,813 --> 01:27:23,493
Speaker 15: often makes changing behavior easier because we know that other

1742
01:27:23,533 --> 01:27:25,493
Speaker 15: people are doing it. It's not just us. There's some

1743
01:27:25,613 --> 01:27:27,773
Speaker 15: support around and I can chat to other people and

1744
01:27:28,573 --> 01:27:30,413
Speaker 15: that often helps us if we're trying to engage in

1745
01:27:30,453 --> 01:27:31,533
Speaker 15: some sort of new behavior.

1746
01:27:31,893 --> 01:27:34,813
Speaker 3: Very good. Now, you guys have got a webinar on Tuesday, right,

1747
01:27:35,013 --> 01:27:37,533
Speaker 3: so second of July, So if you can make it

1748
01:27:37,613 --> 01:27:39,173
Speaker 3: through the first of July without a drink and then

1749
01:27:39,173 --> 01:27:40,093
Speaker 3: you've got a tip through.

1750
01:27:41,813 --> 01:27:43,893
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, we've got a free webinar, so it doesn't

1751
01:27:43,893 --> 01:27:46,613
Speaker 15: cost anything, and we're doing it in conjunction with a

1752
01:27:46,693 --> 01:27:49,213
Speaker 15: place called State of Play, who are an alcohol free brewery,

1753
01:27:49,373 --> 01:27:51,613
Speaker 15: and the founder of that's got a really interesting story

1754
01:27:51,613 --> 01:27:54,533
Speaker 15: about he's started to drive July about four years.

1755
01:27:54,333 --> 01:27:55,373
Speaker 19: Ago and hasn't stopped.

1756
01:27:56,773 --> 01:27:59,133
Speaker 15: But yeah, I've got opportunity just to come along and

1757
01:27:59,173 --> 01:28:01,533
Speaker 15: here some tips and some reasons.

1758
01:28:01,613 --> 01:28:04,573
Speaker 19: So if you're thinking about it, the easiest thing is

1759
01:28:04,653 --> 01:28:05,213
Speaker 19: to jump.

1760
01:28:05,053 --> 01:28:07,693
Speaker 15: On Umbrella Well Being Facebook page actually, and you can

1761
01:28:07,773 --> 01:28:10,293
Speaker 15: sign up through that, but it's just it's only half

1762
01:28:10,293 --> 01:28:11,493
Speaker 15: a now, you can do it in your lunch break.

1763
01:28:11,573 --> 01:28:15,093
Speaker 15: Just hear a few tips and tricks and maybe that

1764
01:28:15,253 --> 01:28:16,533
Speaker 15: might be the motivation that you need.

1765
01:28:16,813 --> 01:28:19,613
Speaker 3: Superb love your work, Thanks so much. Dooglele is Google

1766
01:28:19,653 --> 01:28:22,373
Speaker 3: Sutherland from Umbrella Wellbeing. We'll put all of us tips

1767
01:28:22,413 --> 01:28:25,573
Speaker 3: there and a link to that Facebook page. She can

1768
01:28:25,613 --> 01:28:28,653
Speaker 3: sign up for that webinar on the news talk zb website.

1769
01:28:28,973 --> 01:28:30,853
Speaker 3: Before midday, we got new music to play for you

1770
01:28:31,053 --> 01:28:34,613
Speaker 3: from Anna Coddington. She's a really interesting musician. She does

1771
01:28:34,653 --> 01:28:37,453
Speaker 3: a lot of music. She mixes English lyrics and today

1772
01:28:37,493 --> 01:28:39,773
Speaker 3: or Maudi lyrics. She's got a new album out called

1773
01:28:40,853 --> 01:28:42,373
Speaker 3: So we're going to listen to that really kind of

1774
01:28:42,413 --> 01:28:45,573
Speaker 3: beautiful music that will play you before midday. We'll have

1775
01:28:45,653 --> 01:28:48,413
Speaker 3: your box picks as well. Next up, our travel Correspondent's

1776
01:28:48,413 --> 01:28:51,093
Speaker 3: taking us all to Warmer Climbs on the Sunshine Coast

1777
01:28:51,573 --> 01:28:52,853
Speaker 3: seventeen past eleven.

1778
01:28:53,773 --> 01:28:57,973
Speaker 1: Travel with Wendy WU Tours unique fully inclusive tours around

1779
01:28:58,053 --> 01:28:58,453
Speaker 1: the world.

1780
01:28:59,013 --> 01:29:01,853
Speaker 3: Mike Yardby is our travel correspondent. He's taking us on

1781
01:29:01,933 --> 01:29:05,173
Speaker 3: a trip this morning through the great outdoors on the

1782
01:29:05,213 --> 01:29:05,893
Speaker 3: Sunshine Post.

1783
01:29:05,933 --> 01:29:08,093
Speaker 8: Hey Mike, good morning Jack.

1784
01:29:08,133 --> 01:29:09,773
Speaker 15: I was just going to say, with respect to the

1785
01:29:09,853 --> 01:29:13,213
Speaker 15: New York Times and Biden, I actually think Jill Biden

1786
01:29:13,293 --> 01:29:15,573
Speaker 15: holds the key here for pulling the rip cord, and

1787
01:29:15,813 --> 01:29:19,013
Speaker 15: I'm just amazed that she still seems to be insisting,

1788
01:29:19,133 --> 01:29:22,533
Speaker 15: he say in the race, At what point is this

1789
01:29:22,813 --> 01:29:25,973
Speaker 15: verge on looking like elder abuse? Yeah, I.

1790
01:29:27,693 --> 01:29:30,893
Speaker 3: Think it does risk being really humiliating for him, and

1791
01:29:31,053 --> 01:29:34,053
Speaker 3: for someone who's really cherished, you know, and has good

1792
01:29:34,093 --> 01:29:38,733
Speaker 3: reason to cherish his record in public life and public service.

1793
01:29:39,813 --> 01:29:42,893
Speaker 3: I think there's a huge risk that he completely destroys

1794
01:29:43,013 --> 01:29:47,373
Speaker 3: that reputation by making the wrong decision here. And look

1795
01:29:48,453 --> 01:29:51,613
Speaker 3: behind closed doors, just to imagine the kind of conversations

1796
01:29:51,653 --> 01:29:53,893
Speaker 3: that are happening behind closed doors in the upper echelons

1797
01:29:53,893 --> 01:29:56,293
Speaker 3: of power around the White House at the moment, Because

1798
01:29:56,413 --> 01:29:58,573
Speaker 3: you know, I was amazing to look at the Joe Biden,

1799
01:29:59,733 --> 01:30:02,293
Speaker 3: you know, after the debate last night when Joe Biden

1800
01:30:02,373 --> 01:30:04,373
Speaker 3: can managed. He was hosting him with a support party,

1801
01:30:04,973 --> 01:30:08,453
Speaker 3: and she was like, great to go, Joe. You answered

1802
01:30:08,533 --> 01:30:12,653
Speaker 3: all the questions. I was like, yeah, did he Yeah,

1803
01:30:12,813 --> 01:30:17,173
Speaker 3: good on you. You made noises sometimes the questions were asked,

1804
01:30:17,213 --> 01:30:19,733
Speaker 3: but I just, yeah, I think you're right. I think

1805
01:30:19,893 --> 01:30:22,893
Speaker 3: I'm sure. I'm sure those people closest to him kind

1806
01:30:22,933 --> 01:30:26,013
Speaker 3: of hold the key here, including you know, his wife

1807
01:30:26,053 --> 01:30:30,013
Speaker 3: and and also his senior advisors. Because nothing about the

1808
01:30:30,093 --> 01:30:32,533
Speaker 3: performance made me think that he has, you know, any

1809
01:30:32,613 --> 01:30:35,213
Speaker 3: real likelihood of beating Trunk. And that's I've got to

1810
01:30:35,253 --> 01:30:37,253
Speaker 3: be honest, you know, that's a totally different position to

1811
01:30:37,373 --> 01:30:39,573
Speaker 3: than one I previously had. I had previously, you know,

1812
01:30:39,653 --> 01:30:41,413
Speaker 3: a year ago, I thought he's probably got it, he's

1813
01:30:41,453 --> 01:30:44,253
Speaker 3: probably got it. But then seeing that last night was

1814
01:30:44,333 --> 01:30:48,653
Speaker 3: just the detail for me. It was a yeah, yeah, yeah, anyway,

1815
01:30:48,813 --> 01:30:51,293
Speaker 3: we'll wait and see what happens. I just think the

1816
01:30:51,413 --> 01:30:54,933
Speaker 3: Dems have to be relieved that there's a bit of time.

1817
01:30:55,413 --> 01:30:57,693
Speaker 3: I mean, if they are, you know, I mean the

1818
01:30:57,853 --> 01:31:00,213
Speaker 3: better time. Not a whole lot, but it's a little

1819
01:31:00,253 --> 01:31:01,453
Speaker 3: bit of time, you know.

1820
01:31:01,653 --> 01:31:03,653
Speaker 15: Just the one till we're lightning to having a newly debate.

1821
01:31:03,813 --> 01:31:07,413
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah. Anyway, So, like I said, we're focusing

1822
01:31:07,493 --> 01:31:09,693
Speaker 3: on the great outdoors on the Sunshine Coast this morning.

1823
01:31:09,733 --> 01:31:12,173
Speaker 3: And there are more direct services these days right connecting

1824
01:31:12,213 --> 01:31:13,493
Speaker 3: New Zealand to the Sunshine Coast.

1825
01:31:14,293 --> 01:31:17,413
Speaker 15: Indeed, yeah, I think it underscores the growing love affair

1826
01:31:17,693 --> 01:31:19,853
Speaker 15: we seem to have with the region. So in New

1827
01:31:19,933 --> 01:31:24,253
Speaker 15: Zealand start their direct flights this week from Auckland to

1828
01:31:24,293 --> 01:31:27,773
Speaker 15: Maruchi door and Jetstar as part of a big announcement

1829
01:31:27,813 --> 01:31:30,133
Speaker 15: a week or so ago they will be flying the

1830
01:31:30,253 --> 01:31:34,213
Speaker 15: route from later this year. So the welcome mat to

1831
01:31:34,293 --> 01:31:37,453
Speaker 15: the Sunshine Coast is being very thickly laid out to Jack.

1832
01:31:37,693 --> 01:31:37,893
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1833
01:31:38,253 --> 01:31:40,413
Speaker 3: Nice. Any mountains take your fancy.

1834
01:31:41,253 --> 01:31:44,253
Speaker 15: Well, this is the thing. You've got one hundred kilometers

1835
01:31:44,293 --> 01:31:48,013
Speaker 15: of glittering beaches at your disposal. But don't just throw

1836
01:31:48,133 --> 01:31:51,133
Speaker 15: your togs in the suitcase, because there are some seriously

1837
01:31:51,293 --> 01:31:55,213
Speaker 15: seenic mountain trails worth packing your boots for. Two, you'll

1838
01:31:55,333 --> 01:31:59,533
Speaker 15: definitely want to shimooze with the Sunshine Coasts rock Stars.

1839
01:31:59,653 --> 01:32:03,373
Speaker 15: Those are eleven thrusting, vertical rocky columns that comprise the

1840
01:32:03,493 --> 01:32:07,453
Speaker 15: Glasshouse Mountains. There are so many you can take, but

1841
01:32:07,613 --> 01:32:10,733
Speaker 15: my favorite, the one I would highly recommend is the

1842
01:32:10,933 --> 01:32:14,893
Speaker 15: Mount Nunu hike, And the reason for that is because

1843
01:32:14,893 --> 01:32:19,093
Speaker 15: it's got this central position in that parade of mountain sisters.

1844
01:32:19,173 --> 01:32:23,093
Speaker 15: So you just feel immersed in all of that glasshouse

1845
01:32:23,173 --> 01:32:25,573
Speaker 15: glory when you get to the top of Mount Nunu

1846
01:32:25,653 --> 01:32:29,013
Speaker 15: and it's it's it's not hard work that walk.

1847
01:32:29,173 --> 01:32:30,093
Speaker 3: It's got a few.

1848
01:32:29,973 --> 01:32:33,213
Speaker 15: Short, short steep sections, but it's certainly not strenuous.

1849
01:32:33,333 --> 01:32:37,373
Speaker 3: Oh very good. How about Coolam, Yes, north.

1850
01:32:37,213 --> 01:32:37,933
Speaker 4: Of Malula Bar.

1851
01:32:38,133 --> 01:32:40,573
Speaker 15: I'm sure many people who have been over to the

1852
01:32:40,613 --> 01:32:43,173
Speaker 15: Sunshine Coast when they've been in Malula Bar, they look

1853
01:32:43,373 --> 01:32:45,413
Speaker 15: to the north and they can see Mount Kolam. It's

1854
01:32:45,533 --> 01:32:50,533
Speaker 15: like this volcanic dome rising up from the coastline. Quite

1855
01:32:50,573 --> 01:32:53,053
Speaker 15: dramatic really. But the funny thing is, and I know

1856
01:32:53,213 --> 01:32:57,733
Speaker 15: Kiwi snigger about this mountains in Australia. Now Mount Coolim.

1857
01:32:58,173 --> 01:33:01,093
Speaker 15: It's altitude tops out at just two hundred meters, but

1858
01:33:01,253 --> 01:33:05,573
Speaker 15: it's a mountain. The thing about it, though, is it's

1859
01:33:06,573 --> 01:33:10,573
Speaker 15: twenty five million year old lack alith. You don't come

1860
01:33:10,613 --> 01:33:14,493
Speaker 15: across a laculithe every day, Jack, And even though it's

1861
01:33:14,533 --> 01:33:17,773
Speaker 15: only two hundred meters, it is amazing. The perspective going

1862
01:33:17,853 --> 01:33:20,333
Speaker 15: up two hundred meters can give you. You get the

1863
01:33:20,613 --> 01:33:25,693
Speaker 15: most irresistible wrap around panorama of the Sunshine Coast when

1864
01:33:25,773 --> 01:33:29,173
Speaker 15: you are on top of Mount Coolam and both walks,

1865
01:33:29,253 --> 01:33:32,573
Speaker 15: both Mount Munu and Mount Coolam. You can knock both

1866
01:33:32,613 --> 01:33:34,733
Speaker 15: of those off in about ninety minutes.

1867
01:33:35,013 --> 01:33:37,133
Speaker 5: Definitely do them early in the day.

1868
01:33:37,333 --> 01:33:38,093
Speaker 15: Beat the heat.

1869
01:33:38,773 --> 01:33:38,973
Speaker 7: Ah.

1870
01:33:39,453 --> 01:33:42,173
Speaker 3: Okay, that's even in winter, you reckon. That's a key

1871
01:33:42,293 --> 01:33:44,133
Speaker 3: or maybe might not be so bad this time of year.

1872
01:33:44,813 --> 01:33:47,133
Speaker 15: It's amazing when I'm over there a couple of weeks ago.

1873
01:33:48,213 --> 01:33:51,173
Speaker 15: The days start off in June, July August at about

1874
01:33:51,213 --> 01:33:55,013
Speaker 15: you know, six seven degrees, pretty fresh, but by eleven

1875
01:33:55,013 --> 01:33:58,893
Speaker 15: o'clock she is twenty three, twenty four, twenty five degrees.

1876
01:33:59,013 --> 01:34:00,653
Speaker 8: Yeah, oh yes, go early.

1877
01:34:00,933 --> 01:34:05,333
Speaker 3: Yes, excuse my ignorance here, Yes, what's a lack oflithe?

1878
01:34:07,973 --> 01:34:12,413
Speaker 15: Well, from my schedule understanding, a laclith is formed by

1879
01:34:12,453 --> 01:34:18,133
Speaker 15: a whole lot of magma pressing upwards and the rock,

1880
01:34:18,213 --> 01:34:21,693
Speaker 15: the ignis rock forms into a dome like shape, and

1881
01:34:21,813 --> 01:34:23,493
Speaker 15: that's that's what Mount Kulam is.

1882
01:34:23,813 --> 01:34:26,853
Speaker 3: Okay, very good. So I'm really putting you on this

1883
01:34:26,893 --> 01:34:31,533
Speaker 3: one here. How do you spell it? L A C

1884
01:34:32,053 --> 01:34:33,773
Speaker 3: c okay C C.

1885
01:34:34,053 --> 01:34:39,613
Speaker 15: O l I t H lack O lifts.

1886
01:34:39,933 --> 01:34:47,213
Speaker 3: Okay, yes, no, very good. It's an igneous intrusion. Very good.

1887
01:34:47,293 --> 01:34:48,813
Speaker 3: Do you go all learning?

1888
01:34:49,053 --> 01:34:50,973
Speaker 8: Okay, I have won the Lounde suite.

1889
01:34:51,133 --> 01:34:54,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, very good, Mike, that's that's super impressive.

1890
01:34:54,293 --> 01:34:54,573
Speaker 5: Okay.

1891
01:34:54,973 --> 01:34:56,333
Speaker 3: Where is good for whale watching?

1892
01:34:57,973 --> 01:35:01,493
Speaker 15: Go out with Sunnery from the Lula Bar and over

1893
01:35:01,573 --> 01:35:04,093
Speaker 15: the course of four hours you will be treeated to

1894
01:35:04,333 --> 01:35:08,053
Speaker 15: the most magnificent spectacle of backs at play. Lots of

1895
01:35:08,173 --> 01:35:11,853
Speaker 15: juveniles in particular, and true to form Jack. When you

1896
01:35:11,933 --> 01:35:16,653
Speaker 15: think juvenile, you think show off. Yes, very flamboyant. With

1897
01:35:16,773 --> 01:35:21,453
Speaker 15: the breaching of the water off Malulabar. These juveniles whod

1898
01:35:21,493 --> 01:35:25,813
Speaker 15: you mentioned before eleven about whale counting really interesting now

1899
01:35:25,893 --> 01:35:28,893
Speaker 15: the water's off Molulabarb. Obviously they form part of Australia's

1900
01:35:29,213 --> 01:35:34,173
Speaker 15: Humpback Highway. Typically they play host of forty thousand humpbacks

1901
01:35:34,693 --> 01:35:38,573
Speaker 15: cruising up from Antarctica to breed and give booth. The

1902
01:35:38,653 --> 01:35:42,933
Speaker 15: Sunshine Coast population is growing at about ten percent a year,

1903
01:35:43,013 --> 01:35:44,213
Speaker 15: which is pretty impressive.

1904
01:35:44,973 --> 01:35:46,693
Speaker 1: So the other.

1905
01:35:46,733 --> 01:35:49,853
Speaker 15: Amazing insight I glenned when I was out with sun

1906
01:35:49,973 --> 01:35:54,693
Speaker 15: Reef satellite tracking has been observing their migratory path and

1907
01:35:54,813 --> 01:35:58,453
Speaker 15: it's incredibly consistent, so they stick to the same north

1908
01:35:58,533 --> 01:36:03,013
Speaker 15: south track within one degree year on year on a

1909
01:36:03,093 --> 01:36:06,573
Speaker 15: ten thousand kilometer return swamp. That is pretty good navigation,

1910
01:36:06,773 --> 01:36:07,653
Speaker 15: isn't it one degree?

1911
01:36:08,173 --> 01:36:13,053
Speaker 3: One degree? That's extraordinary. Yeah, yeah, that's amazing. Okay. What

1912
01:36:13,253 --> 01:36:15,973
Speaker 3: makes Caloundra such a popular holiday base?

1913
01:36:16,853 --> 01:36:19,453
Speaker 15: Yeah, I would really recommend it because I think it

1914
01:36:19,573 --> 01:36:22,973
Speaker 15: has been somewhat underrated by kiwis as a holiday hot spot.

1915
01:36:24,053 --> 01:36:26,453
Speaker 15: But it's the southern bell of the Sunshine Coast, so

1916
01:36:26,533 --> 01:36:30,213
Speaker 15: it's Bobymlulabar. But the thing about Caloundra they have got

1917
01:36:30,253 --> 01:36:34,413
Speaker 15: the most insane abundance of beaches and bays fringing the

1918
01:36:34,533 --> 01:36:38,613
Speaker 15: town and the headland. For example, there was this gorgeous

1919
01:36:38,653 --> 01:36:41,493
Speaker 15: little beach to the south called Golden Beach and it

1920
01:36:41,653 --> 01:36:45,093
Speaker 15: itches the waterway that separates Caloundra from the tip of

1921
01:36:45,333 --> 01:36:49,733
Speaker 15: Bribe Island. So it's very smooth water and it's such

1922
01:36:49,813 --> 01:36:51,853
Speaker 15: a great spot to do a bit of kayaking and

1923
01:36:51,933 --> 01:36:54,253
Speaker 15: if you want a side serving of wildlife while you're

1924
01:36:54,293 --> 01:36:58,053
Speaker 15: doing your kayaking, so many wading birds. You'll be floating

1925
01:36:58,093 --> 01:37:01,333
Speaker 15: along with pelicans on a we float, you know, it's

1926
01:37:01,373 --> 01:37:04,333
Speaker 15: just so cool. And then in the center of town

1927
01:37:04,413 --> 01:37:08,613
Speaker 15: in Caloundra at Kings Beach, Queenslanders, right, this is one

1928
01:37:08,653 --> 01:37:11,493
Speaker 15: of the all time family favorite beaches of the state.

1929
01:37:11,653 --> 01:37:13,653
Speaker 15: And at the end of the beach the most spectacular

1930
01:37:13,773 --> 01:37:17,013
Speaker 15: ocean pools complex and it's adorned with sail shades, so

1931
01:37:17,053 --> 01:37:18,653
Speaker 15: if it's getting really hot on the day, you can

1932
01:37:18,773 --> 01:37:22,893
Speaker 15: still swim in seawater in these ocean pools and the

1933
01:37:23,013 --> 01:37:25,293
Speaker 15: free to use. So that really is a crowning jewel

1934
01:37:25,333 --> 01:37:25,893
Speaker 15: of Caloundra.

1935
01:37:26,053 --> 01:37:28,413
Speaker 3: Oh nice. And how big and how long is their

1936
01:37:28,493 --> 01:37:29,373
Speaker 3: coastal pathway?

1937
01:37:30,293 --> 01:37:34,533
Speaker 15: Oh wow, what a wopp are twenty five kilometers all

1938
01:37:34,693 --> 01:37:37,413
Speaker 15: around the tucks and folds of the Caloundra So whether

1939
01:37:37,453 --> 01:37:40,173
Speaker 15: you're on foot or by bike, it is such a

1940
01:37:40,293 --> 01:37:43,093
Speaker 15: magnificent pathway and it will take you to all of

1941
01:37:43,173 --> 01:37:47,693
Speaker 15: those fabulous beaches they have like Shelley and Moffatt, Golden Kings,

1942
01:37:48,093 --> 01:37:52,693
Speaker 15: Dicky Beach. There's this fantastic memorial up on the headland

1943
01:37:53,173 --> 01:37:56,493
Speaker 15: just past King's Beach called Centaur Park, and I mean,

1944
01:37:56,533 --> 01:37:59,333
Speaker 15: it's a great spot for sizzling views, but the memorial

1945
01:37:59,453 --> 01:38:02,133
Speaker 15: is to his Centaur. I've never heard about this, but

1946
01:38:02,253 --> 01:38:05,093
Speaker 15: this was an Australian the hospital ship, and it was

1947
01:38:05,253 --> 01:38:08,013
Speaker 15: sunk just off the host of Caloundra by a Japanese

1948
01:38:08,053 --> 01:38:10,813
Speaker 15: submarine during World War Two. It killed two hundred and

1949
01:38:10,853 --> 01:38:14,213
Speaker 15: fifty people. They were basically nervous on a hospital ship.

1950
01:38:14,333 --> 01:38:14,533
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1951
01:38:14,853 --> 01:38:18,413
Speaker 15: So yeah, I've done a gorgeous memorial via to the centaur.

1952
01:38:18,893 --> 01:38:22,813
Speaker 15: But yeah, make that pathway your holiday highway while you

1953
01:38:22,973 --> 01:38:24,733
Speaker 15: gaze out on the humpback highway.

1954
01:38:24,853 --> 01:38:25,053
Speaker 19: Check.

1955
01:38:25,253 --> 01:38:25,493
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1956
01:38:25,693 --> 01:38:27,773
Speaker 3: Yeah, so very good. Hey, thank you so much, Mike.

1957
01:38:27,853 --> 01:38:30,013
Speaker 3: That does sound amazing. I've just googled it too. So

1958
01:38:30,253 --> 01:38:32,613
Speaker 3: lack of lists, lots of lack of lists everywhere, well,

1959
01:38:32,893 --> 01:38:35,253
Speaker 3: not lots xy they're kind of rear on Earth, but

1960
01:38:36,453 --> 01:38:39,973
Speaker 3: apparently heats on the moon. Really a lot of lack

1961
01:38:40,013 --> 01:38:43,333
Speaker 3: oflists on the moon and some of the some of them.

1962
01:38:43,853 --> 01:38:47,213
Speaker 3: Yeah really yeah, yeah, so there you go. Okay, they're

1963
01:38:47,253 --> 01:38:50,493
Speaker 3: all learning. But also not to be confused with a

1964
01:38:50,613 --> 01:38:54,373
Speaker 3: batholith or a lot of life. Oh I know that

1965
01:38:54,533 --> 01:38:57,453
Speaker 3: was concerned to you. Yeah, so you've got your lapolists,

1966
01:38:57,493 --> 01:38:59,493
Speaker 3: your batholists, and your lack of lists. A lot of

1967
01:38:59,573 --> 01:39:04,973
Speaker 3: lists in geology. Anyway, we're all learning. Thank you so much.

1968
01:39:05,613 --> 01:39:08,093
Speaker 3: All of Mike's two for wintering over in the Sunshine

1969
01:39:08,173 --> 01:39:09,933
Speaker 3: Coast to be up on the news talks. He'd be Wedstard.

1970
01:39:09,973 --> 01:39:10,973
Speaker 3: It's eleven thirty.

1971
01:39:14,613 --> 01:39:16,253
Speaker 4: Getting your weekends started.

1972
01:39:16,493 --> 01:39:20,053
Speaker 1: It's Saturday morning with Jack team on News Talks EDB,

1973
01:39:37,053 --> 01:39:38,453
Speaker 1: News Talks EDB.

1974
01:39:39,733 --> 01:39:42,813
Speaker 3: I hope you're enjoying your Marta Ricky long weekend. I'm

1975
01:39:43,133 --> 01:39:46,653
Speaker 3: I've got my nephews and niece up visiting this weekend.

1976
01:39:47,453 --> 01:39:48,893
Speaker 3: A sister and her kids have come up to the

1977
01:39:48,973 --> 01:39:51,453
Speaker 3: Big Smoke, the O nine, all the way from Nelson,

1978
01:39:51,653 --> 01:39:54,813
Speaker 3: very very exciting. We took the kids to their first

1979
01:39:55,013 --> 01:39:57,173
Speaker 3: Indian dinner in a restaurant last night. So my two

1980
01:39:57,253 --> 01:40:01,333
Speaker 3: year old niece, Elsie discovered mango lussies for the first time.

1981
01:40:01,493 --> 01:40:03,653
Speaker 3: Fair to say she's a fan. Fair to say that

1982
01:40:03,733 --> 01:40:07,173
Speaker 3: she got mango lussy across every single part of her

1983
01:40:07,333 --> 01:40:10,493
Speaker 3: entire body, as well as every part of the table,

1984
01:40:10,573 --> 01:40:13,133
Speaker 3: every part of the restaurant walls as well. This afternoon

1985
01:40:13,173 --> 01:40:15,573
Speaker 3: we're heading along to Wauklande Museum. They've got that amazing

1986
01:40:15,653 --> 01:40:18,013
Speaker 3: lego exhibition, so I cannot wait for that. But it

1987
01:40:18,093 --> 01:40:20,013
Speaker 3: is of course a big weekend of sport as well.

1988
01:40:20,173 --> 01:40:22,453
Speaker 3: The Warriors kick off at five o'clock home game this

1989
01:40:22,533 --> 01:40:25,773
Speaker 3: afternoon against the Broncos, and the All Blacks training camp

1990
01:40:25,893 --> 01:40:29,573
Speaker 3: is underway where Jason Pine will be broadcasting from this

1991
01:40:29,693 --> 01:40:30,773
Speaker 3: afternoon for weekend sport.

1992
01:40:30,853 --> 01:40:33,653
Speaker 8: Gay Party, I've got a Jack Hado mate, Yeah.

1993
01:40:33,613 --> 01:40:35,333
Speaker 3: Very well, thanks, So big week come with the All

1994
01:40:35,413 --> 01:40:37,453
Speaker 3: Backs being named, of course you're gonna be catching up

1995
01:40:37,453 --> 01:40:38,893
Speaker 3: with the rais of this afternoon.

1996
01:40:39,013 --> 01:40:41,293
Speaker 8: Yeah, between one and two. Looking forward to chatting to

1997
01:40:41,733 --> 01:40:44,773
Speaker 8: Scott Robertson. I'm really curious as to how the last

1998
01:40:45,453 --> 01:40:47,693
Speaker 8: six months have been because ordinarily, of course he's been

1999
01:40:48,013 --> 01:40:51,573
Speaker 8: coaching the Crusaders to glory, but not having the opportunity

2000
01:40:51,653 --> 01:40:53,293
Speaker 8: this year and sort of having to sit on the

2001
01:40:53,333 --> 01:40:56,413
Speaker 8: sidelines in many ways and watch and plan for what

2002
01:40:56,613 --> 01:40:59,173
Speaker 8: lies ahead. And what lies ahead is a pretty interesting

2003
01:40:59,213 --> 01:41:01,693
Speaker 8: back end of twenty twenty four for Scott Robertson and

2004
01:41:01,813 --> 01:41:04,333
Speaker 8: for the All Blacks. Two Test matches against England, then

2005
01:41:04,653 --> 01:41:08,053
Speaker 8: CG and Sandy Diego, the Right Championship of course, and

2006
01:41:08,613 --> 01:41:11,773
Speaker 8: a Northern Tour fourteen test matches to look forward to.

2007
01:41:11,973 --> 01:41:14,413
Speaker 8: So he's finally got his team together, he's finally got

2008
01:41:14,413 --> 01:41:17,613
Speaker 8: his players and at the wonderful New Zealand Campus of

2009
01:41:17,653 --> 01:41:20,213
Speaker 8: Innovation and Sport and Upperhart. They've been here since Wednesday,

2010
01:41:20,773 --> 01:41:22,693
Speaker 8: so keen to find out what has been focused on

2011
01:41:22,813 --> 01:41:24,813
Speaker 8: in the first few days and what the plan is

2012
01:41:24,893 --> 01:41:26,973
Speaker 8: for the for the year ahead, and just a bit

2013
01:41:27,053 --> 01:41:30,773
Speaker 8: more from you know, Scott Robertson's coaching toolbox as well,

2014
01:41:30,853 --> 01:41:32,093
Speaker 8: to try and unpick up.

2015
01:41:32,173 --> 01:41:34,173
Speaker 3: It'll be interesting just to get a sense of how

2016
01:41:34,493 --> 01:41:38,893
Speaker 3: exactly he has been prioritizing his time over the last

2017
01:41:39,253 --> 01:41:41,333
Speaker 3: months or so, to get a bit of a sense

2018
01:41:41,373 --> 01:41:44,493
Speaker 3: of his sense of direction for yeah, for the coming

2019
01:41:44,613 --> 01:41:46,693
Speaker 3: weeks and years. How are you saying about the Warriors

2020
01:41:46,733 --> 01:41:47,253
Speaker 3: this afternoon.

2021
01:41:48,373 --> 01:41:53,333
Speaker 8: I'm interested in how they go. I mean, obviously, you know,

2022
01:41:53,933 --> 01:41:55,813
Speaker 8: what we all hope is that last week was a

2023
01:41:55,893 --> 01:42:01,333
Speaker 8: complete outlier, an aberration, and something that will be remembered

2024
01:42:01,373 --> 01:42:03,053
Speaker 8: in years to come and say, I remember that time

2025
01:42:03,133 --> 01:42:05,773
Speaker 8: the Titans beat us sixty six six, and we'll all

2026
01:42:05,773 --> 01:42:08,053
Speaker 8: sort of, you know, broke our s, broke our chins,

2027
01:42:08,093 --> 01:42:10,533
Speaker 8: and look into the middle and wonder how it all happened.

2028
01:42:10,653 --> 01:42:12,253
Speaker 8: I guess what we'll find out this afternoon is a

2029
01:42:12,253 --> 01:42:15,373
Speaker 8: bit about the Warriors' ability to bounce back from disappointment.

2030
01:42:15,573 --> 01:42:18,293
Speaker 8: And it was a huge disappointment for the most part.

2031
01:42:18,333 --> 01:42:20,853
Speaker 8: Andrew Websters kept the same team thirteen of the seventeen

2032
01:42:21,173 --> 01:42:23,533
Speaker 8: who played last weekend, we'll back up again today, so

2033
01:42:23,573 --> 01:42:25,173
Speaker 8: he's given them the opportunity to go out and put

2034
01:42:25,213 --> 01:42:27,493
Speaker 8: it right. Yes, I want to cover that off this afternoon.

2035
01:42:27,573 --> 01:42:30,253
Speaker 8: And the Tour de France, one of the world's most

2036
01:42:30,453 --> 01:42:34,013
Speaker 8: iconic sporting events, underway tonight. It's starting in Italy for

2037
01:42:34,093 --> 01:42:36,813
Speaker 8: the very first time tonight New Zealand time, so I

2038
01:42:36,853 --> 01:42:38,533
Speaker 8: want to want to have a decent preview of the

2039
01:42:39,333 --> 01:42:40,213
Speaker 8: Tour de France as well.

2040
01:42:40,613 --> 01:42:42,573
Speaker 3: Nice hey, thank you, sir. Looking forward to this afternoon.

2041
01:42:42,653 --> 01:42:45,053
Speaker 3: Jason Pine behind the mic for Weekend Sport right after

2042
01:42:45,133 --> 01:42:47,413
Speaker 3: the twelve o'clock news before midday, We've got that new

2043
01:42:47,533 --> 01:42:50,653
Speaker 3: music for you from Anna Coddington. It's a fourth studio album.

2044
01:42:50,773 --> 01:42:55,413
Speaker 3: She's just a really interesting musician and creator, so looking

2045
01:42:55,453 --> 01:42:57,133
Speaker 3: forward to coming out. Bit of Space so we can

2046
01:42:57,173 --> 01:42:59,573
Speaker 3: play a couple of her new songs next up. If

2047
01:42:59,613 --> 01:43:01,813
Speaker 3: you're looking for a cracking read this weekend, our book

2048
01:43:01,893 --> 01:43:05,333
Speaker 3: reviewer has two recommendations for us haul It's twenty four

2049
01:43:05,413 --> 01:43:06,853
Speaker 3: to twelve bit a way to.

2050
01:43:06,893 --> 01:43:07,693
Speaker 4: Kick off your weekend.

2051
01:43:07,853 --> 01:43:11,573
Speaker 1: Then with Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack Day and bepwured

2052
01:43:11,613 --> 01:43:14,973
Speaker 1: on codet enz for high quality supplements used Talk.

2053
01:43:14,853 --> 01:43:18,093
Speaker 3: Zenb twenty to twelve on Newstalk z'be Katherine Rains as

2054
01:43:18,133 --> 01:43:20,853
Speaker 3: our book reviewer. She's got two reads for us this weekend.

2055
01:43:20,893 --> 01:43:25,213
Speaker 3: Hey Catherine, Morning Jack. Let's begin with Storm Child by

2056
01:43:25,293 --> 01:43:26,173
Speaker 3: Michael Robotham.

2057
01:43:27,453 --> 01:43:29,693
Speaker 21: So this is in a series, and so this is

2058
01:43:29,733 --> 01:43:33,773
Speaker 21: the fourth in the series of Ev Cormack, and you

2059
01:43:33,853 --> 01:43:35,853
Speaker 21: get to learn a little bit more about her mysterious

2060
01:43:35,933 --> 01:43:38,973
Speaker 21: past and she's very silent on her name and background

2061
01:43:39,133 --> 01:43:43,173
Speaker 21: and a precaution for her own self preservation and she's

2062
01:43:43,253 --> 01:43:45,413
Speaker 21: a for a psychologist to go. And I'm Sarah Cyrus,

2063
01:43:45,493 --> 01:43:48,333
Speaker 21: Haven and Nottingham for the last three years. And they

2064
01:43:48,373 --> 01:43:50,573
Speaker 21: decide to take a holiday trip to Cleethorpe's on the

2065
01:43:50,653 --> 01:43:54,733
Speaker 21: Lincolnshire coast, and this horrifying site plays out before their

2066
01:43:54,773 --> 01:43:57,053
Speaker 21: eyes as these bodies of migrants are washed up on

2067
01:43:57,093 --> 01:44:01,293
Speaker 21: the beach, including a little boy, and there's a teenage survivor,

2068
01:44:01,613 --> 01:44:04,613
Speaker 21: a boy named Arburn. And this tragedy has a particular

2069
01:44:04,733 --> 01:44:05,733
Speaker 21: impact on Ev.

2070
01:44:06,453 --> 01:44:07,733
Speaker 6: And Cyrus works with the.

2071
01:44:07,773 --> 01:44:12,093
Speaker 21: Nottingham Police Force and he's drafted to help this inquiry

2072
01:44:12,173 --> 01:44:14,933
Speaker 21: that's going on and he finds himself very involved in this,

2073
01:44:15,133 --> 01:44:17,413
Speaker 21: and it turns out of a llegal boat trafficking of

2074
01:44:17,533 --> 01:44:20,813
Speaker 21: refugees and gangs and led by this mythical guy they

2075
01:44:20,893 --> 01:44:23,773
Speaker 21: call the Fairyman who damages the boats of refugees who

2076
01:44:23,813 --> 01:44:28,053
Speaker 21: don't pay him, and you know, revengeful compensation and all

2077
01:44:28,053 --> 01:44:30,973
Speaker 21: sorts of things going on, and the narrative alternates between

2078
01:44:31,053 --> 01:44:34,173
Speaker 21: ev and Cyrus, and the situation brings back a lot

2079
01:44:34,213 --> 01:44:37,413
Speaker 21: of Evie's memories and a little bit more of her backstory,

2080
01:44:37,413 --> 01:44:40,053
Speaker 21: and he gets ever changing plot that's told in flashbacks

2081
01:44:40,093 --> 01:44:42,653
Speaker 21: that trigger memories and drama and all sorts of things,

2082
01:44:43,413 --> 01:44:45,773
Speaker 21: and these recollections from the present day storyline in this

2083
01:44:45,973 --> 01:44:48,453
Speaker 21: dark tale. So you lots of things, the refugee situation

2084
01:44:49,293 --> 01:44:52,293
Speaker 21: and modern slavery and Evie's mind and the way things

2085
01:44:52,333 --> 01:44:55,133
Speaker 21: are working for her, and it's just it's a fascinating

2086
01:44:55,653 --> 01:44:57,893
Speaker 21: unraveling of her tail, which is a little bit more

2087
01:44:57,933 --> 01:44:58,213
Speaker 21: of her.

2088
01:44:58,173 --> 01:45:01,933
Speaker 3: Tail, Okay, called That's a Storm charb by Michael Robotham.

2089
01:45:02,253 --> 01:45:06,053
Speaker 3: You've also read Agent Zoe by Clear Mulley, So this

2090
01:45:06,213 --> 01:45:06,693
Speaker 3: is that's.

2091
01:45:06,533 --> 01:45:11,213
Speaker 21: The story of ELIZABETHA. Zowaka. She was a Polish World

2092
01:45:11,253 --> 01:45:15,333
Speaker 21: War II female resistance fighter and her name was Agent Zo.

2093
01:45:16,093 --> 01:45:18,453
Speaker 21: And so the story sort of starts out actually after

2094
01:45:18,573 --> 01:45:21,373
Speaker 21: the war in September fifth, nineteen fifty one, and she

2095
01:45:21,493 --> 01:45:23,853
Speaker 21: arrives home from her teaching job to find these two

2096
01:45:23,893 --> 01:45:27,373
Speaker 21: officials waiting for her, and they ransack her flat in

2097
01:45:27,453 --> 01:45:30,973
Speaker 21: northern Poland, and they find this cotton rail containing a

2098
01:45:31,093 --> 01:45:34,733
Speaker 21: ten dollar note of all things, and only foreign currency

2099
01:45:34,853 --> 01:45:37,253
Speaker 21: in communist Poland at that time carried a ten year

2100
01:45:38,013 --> 01:45:42,453
Speaker 21: sentence including torture, and it was just an absurd part

2101
01:45:42,533 --> 01:45:45,413
Speaker 21: of her story. And this woman who had fought to

2102
01:45:45,613 --> 01:45:50,133
Speaker 21: defend eastern Poland from the Nazis. She joined the Home Army,

2103
01:45:50,213 --> 01:45:52,773
Speaker 21: which was one of the largest resistance movements in Europe.

2104
01:45:53,293 --> 01:45:56,333
Speaker 21: She'd run a network of couriers taking information to the

2105
01:45:56,693 --> 01:45:59,453
Speaker 21: Polish government, which happened to be an exile in London.

2106
01:46:00,053 --> 01:46:04,093
Speaker 21: She trained volunteers of the British Special Operations Executive and

2107
01:46:04,253 --> 01:46:07,573
Speaker 21: of underground resistance fighters. And she was the only woman

2108
01:46:07,653 --> 01:46:11,373
Speaker 21: that was parachuted back into occupied Poland. And there these

2109
01:46:11,453 --> 01:46:14,773
Speaker 21: amazing physical challenges she undertook as well, you know, deep

2110
01:46:14,813 --> 01:46:17,213
Speaker 21: snow and the Pyrenees and bombed by the English and

2111
01:46:17,293 --> 01:46:20,733
Speaker 21: shot out by border guards and Claire Marlet Mulley, who's

2112
01:46:20,773 --> 01:46:23,733
Speaker 21: told this story, said that Agent Zoe had set herself

2113
01:46:23,813 --> 01:46:26,133
Speaker 21: to missions in life to bring freedom to a country

2114
01:46:26,333 --> 01:46:30,333
Speaker 21: and the quality of opportunity, rank and recognition to her

2115
01:46:30,373 --> 01:46:34,933
Speaker 21: fellow service woman. And she actually ironically achieves the last

2116
01:46:34,973 --> 01:46:37,133
Speaker 21: one of those right at the end of her life,

2117
01:46:37,213 --> 01:46:40,053
Speaker 21: and she's officially recognized and awarded the Order of the

2118
01:46:40,133 --> 01:46:42,973
Speaker 21: White Eagle, and at ninety seven she was given the

2119
01:46:43,053 --> 01:46:46,653
Speaker 21: military title of Brigadier General retired. And of course an

2120
01:46:46,693 --> 01:46:50,093
Speaker 21: independent democratic Poland, which was her first wish. But she's

2121
01:46:50,293 --> 01:46:54,453
Speaker 21: just an astonishing woman. And you know there's detailed account

2122
01:46:54,573 --> 01:46:56,893
Speaker 21: of history in Poland in the twentieth century as well,

2123
01:46:56,973 --> 01:47:00,853
Speaker 21: you know, invaded simultaneously by Hitler and Stalin, and you know,

2124
01:47:00,973 --> 01:47:03,413
Speaker 21: the Poles were amazing. You know, they provided nearly half

2125
01:47:03,453 --> 01:47:06,213
Speaker 21: of Britain's war time intelligence and you know, made these

2126
01:47:06,453 --> 01:47:10,373
Speaker 21: and valuable contributions.

2127
01:47:08,733 --> 01:47:09,973
Speaker 6: To the war effort.

2128
01:47:10,453 --> 01:47:13,573
Speaker 21: And yeah, and then finally in old age, she's recognized

2129
01:47:13,613 --> 01:47:16,413
Speaker 21: as who she should have been recognized and bright from

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Speaker 21: day one. But the story and yeah, is amazing as

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Speaker 21: she kind of steps through I can't all you know

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Speaker 21: of lots of these World War two female resistance workers fighters, sorry,

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Speaker 21: and lots of people and pilots and all sorts of things,

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Speaker 21: and you just the stories are unmanageable of what they

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Speaker 21: put themselves to.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sounds great.

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Speaker 8: Cool.

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Speaker 3: Okay, there's Agent Zo by Clear Mulley, Catherine's first book,

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Speaker 3: A Storm Child by Michael Robot, and both of those,

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Speaker 3: of course be listed up on the news talks he'd

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Speaker 3: b website. It's sixteen to twelve.

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Speaker 1: Giving you the inside scoop on all you need to

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Speaker 1: us Saturday Mornings with Jack Dame and Bpure dot co

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Speaker 1: dot nz for high quality supplements used talks.

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Speaker 3: B Oh, that's cool. A. This is Anna Collington. She's

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Speaker 3: just released a new album called That song is called Honeyback.

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Speaker 3: It features Troy Kingy and it's interesting because I think

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Speaker 3: she said this album is kind of a funky take

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Speaker 3: and that song has certainly got some funky elements. Ah,

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Speaker 3: and obviously Troy Kingy is into a bit of funk

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Speaker 3: from time to time as well. Anyway, our music reviewer

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Speaker 3: at cel Cliffe has been listening to the album. She's

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Speaker 3: with us Morning Now Marley Funk.

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Speaker 10: That's where we're going.

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Speaker 22: Cool, It's very cool and you know, the first listener

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01:48:53,813 --> 01:48:56,653
Speaker 22: was like, Oh, it's got some Prince esque kind of

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Speaker 22: sound about it, and I think that is and A's

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Speaker 22: rhythm guitar that she does, but also those real strong

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Speaker 22: basslines and drums that come through. She's a fan of Prince.

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Speaker 22: I mean, who isn't. And then actually, when all the

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01:49:09,333 --> 01:49:11,973
Speaker 22: things I've read about the album, I'm not alone and

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01:49:12,333 --> 01:49:15,333
Speaker 22: you know, totally that was some of her vibe bring

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01:49:15,413 --> 01:49:17,853
Speaker 22: that album together. And then yeah, like you say, when

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01:49:17,853 --> 01:49:20,293
Speaker 22: you've got collbs like Troy Kingey he did that whole

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Speaker 22: funk album that he's done in his ten ten ten collection,

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Speaker 22: And she actually wrote that Honeybacks because you can hear

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01:49:26,373 --> 01:49:27,733
Speaker 22: it's got a bit of sassay.

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Speaker 10: Like take that boy.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, So she was writing that to say to a friend,

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Speaker 22: you know, take your power back, let them be. But

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Speaker 22: then she wanted kind of like the guy's perspective of

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01:49:37,373 --> 01:49:40,493
Speaker 22: what's their story, and in her imagination, imagine if the

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Speaker 22: guy came back and had some apologies and wanted to

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Speaker 22: take responsibility for what went down. And so that's kind

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01:49:46,573 --> 01:49:49,453
Speaker 22: of where Troy comes in. But God, their voices just

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01:49:49,573 --> 01:49:54,013
Speaker 22: blend so beautifully together. Their whole I think, just the

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Speaker 22: whole manner of those two working together is just such

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Speaker 22: a beautiful thing. This album is really important because I

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01:50:00,173 --> 01:50:02,493
Speaker 22: for me, one of my favorite albums growing up was

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Speaker 22: Tucky from Mowana and the More Hunters. Yeah, when that

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01:50:05,693 --> 01:50:08,133
Speaker 22: album came out, it blew my mind that someone could

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01:50:08,133 --> 01:50:11,333
Speaker 22: do a bilingual album and just make to del Mardy

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Speaker 22: pop just for me. I don't know if i'd heard

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Speaker 22: that as much as I realized that it could just

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01:50:17,493 --> 01:50:19,533
Speaker 22: be in this mainstream kind of way. And before you

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01:50:19,653 --> 01:50:21,653
Speaker 22: know it, you're like singing along to all these songs

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01:50:21,693 --> 01:50:24,573
Speaker 22: and to del Mardy and you don't necessarily have to

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01:50:24,653 --> 01:50:29,533
Speaker 22: have a full understanding. I think you kind of just

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01:50:29,613 --> 01:50:32,853
Speaker 22: get taken away with these catchy hooks and melodies. And

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Speaker 22: I mean, what a way to learn a language, right, totally.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 22: If I watched my five year old, you know she

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01:50:37,613 --> 01:50:40,333
Speaker 22: can't read yet, so that's how she learns. She listens,

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01:50:40,573 --> 01:50:43,133
Speaker 22: he takes it on board, and I think that just

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Speaker 22: continue through your journey of life. And I just think,

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01:50:45,533 --> 01:50:48,013
Speaker 22: what a way to embrace the language then just singing,

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Speaker 22: and when they make it so catchy into this pop

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Speaker 22: kind of music, yeah, you know you're quickly getting sort

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01:50:53,893 --> 01:50:55,213
Speaker 22: of taken away. With it, and I think that this

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01:50:55,733 --> 01:50:58,093
Speaker 22: album from Anna is a new version of what that is.

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Speaker 22: It's got these really slip, funky beats that pull you

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01:51:01,493 --> 01:51:05,253
Speaker 22: in the synth grooves every now and then, and just

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01:51:05,293 --> 01:51:08,573
Speaker 22: a real beautiful blender of language and heart, and I

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01:51:09,093 --> 01:51:12,133
Speaker 22: just think it's really clever. I like that combination as

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01:51:12,213 --> 01:51:16,293
Speaker 22: well as just some absolute jams totally, which I think

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01:51:16,413 --> 01:51:20,653
Speaker 22: is really really awesome. The opening track what you're going

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01:51:20,693 --> 01:51:26,813
Speaker 22: to play some of as well. It's like even the

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Speaker 22: music video when you see her in it, it's like, yes, girl,

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01:51:29,453 --> 01:51:32,773
Speaker 22: you are just fire in some sets, you know, like

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Speaker 22: you ain't ready for all the awesome of Anna. I

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01:51:36,973 --> 01:51:41,093
Speaker 22: think it's great because often artists don't empower themselves like that,

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01:51:41,253 --> 01:51:43,733
Speaker 22: you know, like check it out, we've got something awesome

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01:51:43,773 --> 01:51:46,693
Speaker 22: to offer. So it's really refreshing to hear that. That's

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01:51:46,733 --> 01:51:51,133
Speaker 22: my interpretation of the song. Anyway, she's got her coven

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01:51:51,253 --> 01:51:54,133
Speaker 22: on the backing vocals. She's admitted they have a coven.

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01:51:54,213 --> 01:51:57,093
Speaker 22: Chat Holly Smith, Nick Moore, Julia Dean's.

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Speaker 6: Are in there.

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Speaker 22: One of the great tracks you should definitely make sure

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01:52:00,653 --> 01:52:04,933
Speaker 22: you listen to is call Your Mother Okay, amazing bassline,

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01:52:05,333 --> 01:52:08,453
Speaker 22: she really plays with her voice in the verses of

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01:52:08,573 --> 01:52:11,133
Speaker 22: the song. In some of the lyrics, you think that

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01:52:11,213 --> 01:52:12,933
Speaker 22: you don't need me, but I'm the one that makes

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01:52:12,973 --> 01:52:14,013
Speaker 22: the world go round.

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Speaker 8: Hello.

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Speaker 22: And it's a good reminder this long weekend you should

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Speaker 22: call your mother.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's on your to do lists. Sounds really good,

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01:52:24,373 --> 01:52:24,933
Speaker 3: sounds great.

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01:52:25,733 --> 01:52:28,893
Speaker 22: It's great, stellar voice, and it's always had a wonderful voice.

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01:52:28,933 --> 01:52:33,453
Speaker 22: And I like how she's quite sort of quite silky,

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01:52:33,573 --> 01:52:36,173
Speaker 22: ah like this quality to it, but she's quite playful

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01:52:36,253 --> 01:52:39,453
Speaker 22: in what she's delivering. So there's a real fun, energetic

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01:52:39,573 --> 01:52:43,093
Speaker 22: vibe about this. And I think as someone who's done

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01:52:43,133 --> 01:52:46,733
Speaker 22: the reclamation journey of her language, you know, it must

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01:52:46,773 --> 01:52:48,893
Speaker 22: have been such joy to be able to then write

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01:52:49,053 --> 01:52:51,533
Speaker 22: in the language. Yeah, put that music together, Like I

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01:52:51,773 --> 01:52:55,293
Speaker 22: just I really feel that, and I'm like, that's so awesome,

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01:52:55,333 --> 01:52:57,133
Speaker 22: and it just so it has a real positive energy

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Speaker 22: and quite danceable. Who doesn't need a little boogie, Yeah,

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01:53:01,333 --> 01:53:03,173
Speaker 22: I don't know, around your kitchen or something this long

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01:53:03,213 --> 01:53:04,773
Speaker 22: behand while you're calling your mother.

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Speaker 3: Good auswer sounds really good. That's really good way of

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01:53:09,253 --> 01:53:10,453
Speaker 3: a good listen. Yes, so what do you get?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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01:53:10,973 --> 01:53:11,933
Speaker 22: Yeah, it's a ten out of ten.

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01:53:11,973 --> 01:53:12,213
Speaker 8: Ten.

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01:53:12,613 --> 01:53:17,373
Speaker 3: Ten, that's fantastic. So that's ten out of ten for

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01:53:18,333 --> 01:53:21,173
Speaker 3: by Anna Collington. Hey, good news for your style as well. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 3: Anna is going to come on our show next week.

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Speaker 3: She's going to be our feature interview next week after

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01:53:25,653 --> 01:53:28,653
Speaker 3: ten o'clock. So very much having a catch over there

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01:53:28,693 --> 01:53:31,533
Speaker 3: then yeah, yeah, that's awesome. I know, I know it's

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01:53:31,533 --> 01:53:33,013
Speaker 3: going to be awesome. So we'll pick out a good

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Speaker 3: song to play in a couple of minutes time. Thank

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Speaker 3: you so much, man, have a good Matadiki and we

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01:53:39,933 --> 01:53:42,693
Speaker 3: will catch you again very soon. So ten out of

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01:53:42,773 --> 01:53:45,173
Speaker 3: ten for like I said, we'll play you a couple

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01:53:45,293 --> 01:53:47,213
Speaker 3: more songs in a couple of minutes. Eight to twelve.

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Speaker 1: A cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday mornings with

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Speaker 1: quality supplements, news talks cool.

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Speaker 3: That is us for another Saturday morning together. Thank you

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01:54:01,333 --> 01:54:04,453
Speaker 3: so much for your company, all of your thoughtful texts

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Speaker 3: with you this afternoon. It's a special weekend sport. He

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Speaker 3: is inside the All Backs training camp after one o'clock

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01:54:23,693 --> 01:54:26,453
Speaker 3: has feature interview this afternoon other than All Backs coach

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01:54:26,733 --> 01:54:29,853
Speaker 3: Scott Raiser Robinson. It would be really interesting to hear

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Speaker 3: from those two together. Thanks to my wonderful producer Libby

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01:54:32,693 --> 01:54:34,493
Speaker 3: for doing all the tough stuff. I'm back with you

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Speaker 3: next Saturday morning from nine until then, We're gonna leave

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Speaker 3: you with Anna Collington. Her new album is Miha ten

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Speaker 3: out of ten Now Music. Rea reckons it's worth This

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01:54:44,573 --> 01:54:46,653
Speaker 3: song is called car two out of here.

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Speaker 11: Don't both looking straight into the sun. You might get

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01:55:12,733 --> 01:55:15,813
Speaker 11: a many in my land had done him, but you

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01:55:16,053 --> 01:55:24,613
Speaker 11: won't be the only on the You're done A brown

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01:55:24,893 --> 01:55:32,813
Speaker 11: baby shape to hear a tire Charles wish your love

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01:55:32,933 --> 01:55:42,693
Speaker 11: before you say my name. Come to Joy Reddics. Then

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01:55:42,773 --> 01:55:50,893
Speaker 11: I fired on the same to do Redics. I'll see

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01:55:51,013 --> 01:56:01,053
Speaker 11: your giant's attention, Joy Red. Then I fire I say.

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Speaker 15: Not to.

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Speaker 11: D see your giant, Joy Joy the same, see your giant.

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01:56:58,053 --> 01:57:00,053
Speaker 4: It's a cry in change.

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