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Speaker 1: The only drive show you can trust to ask the questions,

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Speaker 1: get the answers by the facts and give the analysis.

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Speaker 1: Heather du to c Ellen Drive with One New Zealand.

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Speaker 1: Let's get connected and news talk as they'd be.

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Speaker 2: Hey, good afternoon, Welcome to the show. Coming up today,

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Speaker 2: Chris Luxon's meeting Charless and King Charles for the first

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Speaker 2: time today. That's pretty exciting. So we're going to go

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Speaker 2: to some more and just see what level of excitement

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Speaker 2: We're right. The Police Minister has met with Auckland Transport

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Speaker 2: about what to do on the buses to keep people safe.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to him. And a bunch of Wellington luminaries

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Speaker 2: have formed a group to try to save Wellington, presumably

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Speaker 2: from the council. We'll speak to one of them, Former

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Speaker 2: Mayor Dame fran Wilde Ether due to see Ellen. Long weekend,

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Speaker 2: how good? I mean, how good? Of all the long weekends,

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Speaker 2: this is the one that I'm hanging out for the

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Speaker 2: most because I don't know about you, but I need

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Speaker 2: a break from the nonsense. It's been going on in

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Speaker 2: politics this week on two fronts. The first is Andrew Bailey.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is trivial stuff, right, This was a

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Speaker 2: dad joke gone wrong, and the opposition has spent all

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Speaker 2: week trying to turn it into something else, trying to

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Speaker 2: turn it into a situation where he was drunk he

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Speaker 2: apparently wasn't, trying to turn it into a situation where

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Speaker 2: he'd lied, he apparently hadn't. And so far, absolutely none

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Speaker 2: of the stuff is stuck. It's just, as far as

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Speaker 2: we can see, a dad joke gone wrong, like it

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Speaker 2: was on Friday last week. And the second issue that

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Speaker 2: I'm glad we are hopefully going to move on from

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Speaker 2: is the Casey Costello and the tobacco tax saga. Now,

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Speaker 2: to be fair, okay, there are some questions definitely to

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Speaker 2: answer in the saga. That's my problem is not the

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Speaker 2: focus on it, it's the level of the focus on it.

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Speaker 2: Right there is extensive obsessive coverage going on in some

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Speaker 2: sections of the media, and I have to listen to

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Speaker 2: this and read this stuff for my job as boring

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Speaker 2: it is so dull. I want us to move on

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Speaker 2: from this. I've had a gutsful of it. Having said

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Speaker 2: all of that, word to the wise. For Chippy, Chippy's

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Speaker 2: got to be a little careful about how quickly he

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Speaker 2: tells fhibbs, because that's probably the worst aspect of this

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Speaker 2: whole Casey Costello thing so far, as far as I

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Speaker 2: can see. When Winston Peters first revealed a couple of

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Speaker 2: days ago that someone and Minister Casey Costello's in a

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Speaker 2: circle was actually a family member of her opponent, aischeverril,

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Speaker 2: who was launching attacks on her, and that this person

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Speaker 2: and no one had told Casey Costello that this was

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Speaker 2: a relative of her opponent, the first thing that Chippy

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Speaker 2: said was a manner, just a distant relative will come on, mate,

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Speaker 2: a sister in law, which is now what it turns

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Speaker 2: out this person is as not a distant relative. I

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Speaker 2: see my sister in law on the regular, because I

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Speaker 2: see my brother on the regular. So a sister in

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Speaker 2: law is not somebody like distant woo who I have

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Speaker 2: nothing to do with you anymore. Chippy has unfortunately a

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Speaker 2: bit of a habit of telling FIBs too quickly. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he told He's told a lot of FIBs right. He

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Speaker 2: told fibbs about the women who crossed the Northland border

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Speaker 2: during the COVID lockdown of Auckland. He told fibbs about

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Speaker 2: the pregnant journalist in Afghanistan, Charlotte Ballast and I suspect

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Speaker 2: there was another FIB that was told about the KFC worker,

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Speaker 2: but frankly, I just couldn't be bothered going back and

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: The thing is, the Casey Costello story is actually, frankly

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Speaker 2: too complicated for many of us to follow the details on.

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Speaker 2: But it's been going on for weeks and it's just

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Speaker 2: got more and more and more complicated. But what people

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Speaker 2: can understand very simply is a fib because a fib

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Speaker 2: is something we come across every single day ourselves, and

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Speaker 2: so when we see one, we know one, and it

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Speaker 2: sticks in our heads. So Chippy stop fibbing all the time.

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Speaker 2: It's not a good idea. And the rest of us

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Speaker 2: here is hoping that the long we can resets the

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Speaker 2: politicians so they start dealing with the issues we actually

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Speaker 4: Heather Do for Cela nineteen nine.

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Speaker 2: Tier is the text and understand a text. Fees apply

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Speaker 2: now to something that I do care about, less so

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Speaker 2: The ACT Party have launched a new member's bill to

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Speaker 2: abolish the remaining liquor monopolies, a crown around the country. Now,

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Speaker 2: the bill would repeal the current trusts model. It would

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Speaker 2: allow locals to sell booze under the same nationwide scheme

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Speaker 2: like the supermarkets and bottle stores and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: Simon Court, as a west Auckland based act MP and

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Speaker 2: is with us. Now, Hey, Simon, good afternoon, Heather Born

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Speaker 2: from your own personal frustration at not being able to

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Speaker 2: get the booze from the normal places like the rest

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Speaker 5: It's incredibly frustrating, it's confusing to visitors who come to

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Speaker 5: West Auckland, and it's frankly condescending to the nearly three hundred

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Speaker 5: thousand people who live in west Auckland that we can't

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Speaker 5: enjoy the same access to hospitality, being able to buy

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Speaker 2: New Zealand says we don't trust the bergains with the booze.

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Speaker 5: Well, well, yeah indeed, but yeah, the same also applies

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Speaker 5: to Invercargo and Gore Matada. Well, we also have.

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Speaker 3: Life hotspots, isn't that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, we think we deserve the same rights as

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Speaker 5: all the rest of New Zealanders. And I'll just give

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Speaker 5: you one stat that really triggers me. There's three hundred

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Speaker 5: The rest of Auckland has one bar for every three thousand,

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Speaker 5: two hundred people. We've got one for every thirty seven

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Speaker 5: thousand people. Not only are we lacking, but there's a

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Speaker 5: huge opportunity here in terms of jobs and economy for

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Speaker 5: west Aukland to participate that we currently don't have. So

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Speaker 5: what my members bill does is said, you can these

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Speaker 5: lack of licensing trusts can keep owning bars, they can

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Speaker 5: keep selling alcohol, but they will no longer have a monopoly.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So if your bill passes and becomes law, does

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Speaker 2: it just basically wipe it immediately, and it's it just

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Speaker 2: it starts from the get go. It just resets it

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Speaker 2: so that it becomes like everywhere else in the country.

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Speaker 5: That's all this is. That would mean that they can

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Speaker 5: continue with business, but that anyone else who will now

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Speaker 5: set up a hospitality business.

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Speaker 2: Famously in the past, and I don't know what the

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Speaker 2: situation is at the moment, but famously in the past

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Speaker 2: in the cargo actually used this model for a lot

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Speaker 2: of good. Do they not do that anymore?

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Speaker 5: Well, the trusts have had a real struggle in the

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Speaker 5: past few years. Their overheads have gone up in Auckland

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Speaker 5: They struggle to make a profit. They've closed stores, but

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Speaker 5: when you actually lift the hood, eighty percent of their

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Speaker 5: they should do it. But they shouldn't have a monopoly

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Speaker 5: in selling alcohol and they shouldn't have a monopoly on

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Speaker 5: running hospitality venus in West Aorkland.

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Speaker 2: You realize that you would be moving West Auckland in

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Speaker 2: a completely different direction of travel to the rest of

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Speaker 2: is basically trying to shut down the places you can

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Speaker 5: Well, unfortunately we're also subject to the local alcohol policies,

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Speaker 5: but we have even less opportunity to participate in the

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Speaker 5: throwback era here to prohibition and temperance. And what my

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Speaker 5: Commerce Commission that's meant to be smashing monopolies. Unfortunately we've

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Speaker 5: got this law that says that we're enforcing a monopoly

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Speaker 5: we're going to give West's and the people of South

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Speaker 5: and Freedom back brilliant stuff.

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Speaker 2: Hey, so I'm in best of lucky that Simon called

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Speaker 2: ACTMP for West Aalkland. I've started a war with the Bogans.

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Speaker 2: I've had a text from the Queen of the Bogans already,

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Speaker 2: Paula Bennett. Heather, leave the Bogans alone, Paula Bennett. So

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Speaker 2: Massive day by the way, for tesla on the markets

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Speaker 2: closed up nearly. He's a rich one though. She has

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Speaker 2: closed up nearly twenty two percent in just one day.

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Speaker 2: Now twenty two percent gain and your shares is massive.

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Speaker 2: they've had at Tesla in over a decade. And the

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Speaker 2: reason is because Elon is just exuding confidence. He's gone

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Speaker 2: he said also he's been slashing the production costs, so

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Speaker 6: Helloa, Hey, two fifty.

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Speaker 2: Nine is not that bad for.

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Speaker 7: Us as it, I reckon, it's all right, there runs

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Speaker 7: on the board, right, I mean, two fifty nine doesn't

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Speaker 7: seem like a huge total.

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Speaker 6: It's not.

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Speaker 7: Probably it's about middling, I guess and Test cricket, but

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Speaker 7: on a pitch that's going to turn more and more

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Speaker 6: I think one of the crucial points here is that

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Speaker 7: Going to have to bat last on this pitch when

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Speaker 7: the presumably anyway the wicket is turning the most.

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Speaker 6: So I think two fifty nine's all right.

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Speaker 7: You wouldn't want India to get many more than I

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Speaker 7: don't know, one hundred ahead. So it's quite an important

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Speaker 7: They would have loved a lot more, but we're still

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 7: I think the Test match is well and truly alive.

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Speaker 7: Only had one day, but yeah, today might be quite crucial. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: don't want to let them get away from us.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever heard of this? Chap Washington? Soon before?

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Speaker 6: I hadn't actually no what a great name though, had

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Speaker 6: a great name.

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Speaker 2: So how many of our wickets did he take?

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Speaker 5: Seven?

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Speaker 7: Seven for fifty nine he got so yeah, so I

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Speaker 7: think we've all heard of him now, maybe that was

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Speaker 7: a problem. No one in the black Caps knew who

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Speaker 2: What a legend. And so Ann's was telling me before

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, that's interesting stuff. Then just for a

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Speaker 2: at midday tomorrow here on News Talk ZB Here the

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Speaker 2: west Auckland sucks. You have to go to a handful

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Speaker 2: of booze stores to purchase. Trusts are expensive and spend

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Speaker 2: Heather get rid of the west Auckland Trust. Flatmates cafe

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Speaker 2: That'd be Dan Mitchins in our US correspondence with US

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, what everybody wants, and in particular the Deputy Mayor

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Speaker 2: They're only there to stop low level stuff. So it's

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Speaker 2: not gonna fix the problem. And if we spend time

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Speaker 2: Zy justify their thank you e cards. You are not

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Speaker 2: And the reason Sports New Zealand doesn't want to have

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Speaker 2: It means nothing to me. I delete it. I want

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Speaker 2: rugby bulls. Thank you to the Taxpayers Union for digging

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Speaker 2: know what's going on at Sports New Zealand, but somebody

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Speaker 2: because I clearly got way too much. It's just wasting it.

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Speaker 2: You're not going to hear from them, but the Sports

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Speaker 2: So if Sports New Zealand thinks that they dodge a

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Speaker 2: Been Verry sobers with us in ten minutes time. Dan

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Speaker 2: Mitchinson is standing by out of the US. Heads up,

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Speaker 2: I run a restaurant in west Auckland, you know, buy

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Speaker 2: It has been a busy day and some more At

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Speaker 2: Quia as well. Albo says they talked about climate change.

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Speaker 9: Are we today discussed importantly our new Climate and Energy

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Speaker 2: Our political edits ad Jason wols is at Chogam. He'll

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Speaker 2: making another attempt to get negotiations for a Gaza sees

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Speaker 2: And finally, a plague of ticks may or may not

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Speaker 2: It's just a population boom that happens every single year,

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Speaker 1: The Friday Sports Huddle International correspondence with Ends and Eye

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Speaker 2: Dan mentioned some US correspondents with US.

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Speaker 4: Now, Hey, Dan, uptick, I get it now?

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Speaker 12: three major networks over here because of how they fact

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Speaker 12: checked him and his running mate during the debates, and

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Speaker 12: the coverage that he says is not unfair. Well, that's

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Speaker 12: not how it works over here. We've got the FCC,

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Speaker 12: the Federal Communications Commission, and they licensed television and the

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Speaker 12: radio stations here, but those Big three they own you know,

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Speaker 12: eighty local TV stations among them. So those are the

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Speaker 12: concerns that, well, maybe there could be some pressure put

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Speaker 12: on those local licenses right now. And then we had

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Speaker 12: the La Times deciding not to endorse a candidate, and

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Speaker 12: you owner, the paper made that decision, and there's already

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Speaker 12: been at least one resignation from the paper over that.

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Speaker 12: So I mean, I think there's concern. You know, are

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Speaker 12: these some of these companies really in the back pocket

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Speaker 12: of the left or the right?

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Speaker 2: I mean, is it really the end of the world

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Speaker 2: if some of them are pulling their I mean, I'm

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Speaker 2: not saying that they should pull their punches on Trump,

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Speaker 2: but he gets a bloody hard time. I mean if

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Speaker 2: they pulled their punches sort of just evening it up

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Speaker 2: a week, but would.

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Speaker 3: Live well, I think it would be.

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Speaker 12: It really depends on where you listen and where you watch,

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Speaker 12: and where you get your news from too. I mean,

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Speaker 12: you've got cable, you know, companies over here that are

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Speaker 12: very part is in one way leading to the left

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Speaker 12: like MSNBC, or to the right on Fox.

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Speaker 3: But you're right.

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Speaker 12: I mean, it seems like a lot of the media

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Speaker 12: companies tend to pick one candidate or the other sometimes

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Speaker 12: and they tend to favor one over the other. And

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Speaker 12: in this case, you know, there seems to be a

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Speaker 12: lot of love over Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah too. Right now, look, have we actually had

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Speaker 2: a recentencing decision on the Menindez brothers.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, this is fascinating only because this this whole thing

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Speaker 12: has taken off, just not on social media and in

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Speaker 12: the real world. But I mean Netflix has this Menendez

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Speaker 12: series that has popped number one, And today the La

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Speaker 12: County District Attorney said, you know what, they're going to

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Speaker 12: recommend that the brothers get a new sentence in a

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Speaker 12: fifty years to life because they were under I think

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Speaker 12: it was the age of twenty six years old when

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Speaker 12: they committed these murders of their parents. And so they're

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Speaker 12: going to go tomorrow and file a petition and the

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Speaker 12: could make a decision in the next month or so.

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Speaker 12: And because of the time served, these guys could be free.

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Speaker 12: I mean, they've been tried twice for their parents' murders.

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Speaker 12: The first trial ended in a hung jury, and the

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Speaker 12: second one was you know, they're serving the sentence for

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Speaker 12: that right now. So, I mean, it's just a fascinating

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Speaker 12: case right now because so many people said, well, all

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Speaker 12: this evidence that that you're just bringing up right now,

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Speaker 12: I mean a lot of this has been out there

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Speaker 12: for for years and years, and why are you doing

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Speaker 12: this now just a week and a half before the election,

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Speaker 12: he said, The DA said, this has nothing to do

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Speaker 12: with the election. This has to do with how many

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Speaker 12: cases that we have in the system.

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Speaker 2: It does it have anything to do with the Netflix interest?

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Speaker 3: I don't think so.

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Speaker 12: But I think there's been a ton more of interest

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Speaker 12: just because this happened to come out. And then we

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Speaker 12: got this news about a week or two ago that

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Speaker 12: the DA was going to make a decision, and now

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Speaker 12: this is happening, So it's I mean, and and then

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Speaker 12: the bits and pieces I've seen from the Netflix show,

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Speaker 12: which I do want to watch this weekend, have just

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Speaker 12: been fascinating too.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So it's just it's just it's just coincidental, just

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Speaker 2: really interesting.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it is.

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Speaker 2: Now, look how much time Okay, if New York City

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Speaker 2: gives pidos paid time. I'm off to kiva sick animals.

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Speaker 2: How much time are we talking?

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Speaker 12: Well, I think that's one of the things that are

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Speaker 12: still up in the air right now. They're trying to

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Speaker 12: amend this sickly loss so that the pet owners can

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Speaker 12: take time off not just to care for their kids,

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Speaker 12: or their spouse or their their partner, but for their

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Speaker 12: their pets right now. And I mean there's a lot

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Speaker 12: of vague warding. I was trying to understand this when

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Speaker 12: I was reading through it earlier today, that it's not

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Speaker 12: just going to be you know, cats and dogs, but

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Speaker 12: it could be other animals that are covered under this

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Speaker 12: right now. Like you if you say that I have

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Speaker 12: a and we've had people that have tried to get

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Speaker 12: on airplanes over here with a peacock or something like

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Speaker 12: that or a goat and say it's my emotional support animal.

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Speaker 12: And if you're saying, well, my pet pig, which is

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Speaker 12: my emotional support animal, is not feeling well today, I'm

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Speaker 12: going to call in sick. I'm going to take a

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Speaker 12: sick day on that. I mean, what would you do

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Speaker 12: if you were a boss, or would you say you

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Speaker 12: know fair enough? I mean, it's your sick time. It's

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Speaker 12: yours to do with what you want.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, it's just.

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Speaker 2: About it's about the amount of time, right. So how

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Speaker 2: much do you get caring for a sick kid?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean you don't.

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Speaker 12: I mean, like, for instance, maybe say the one of

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Speaker 12: the companies I work for, I get to maybe seven

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Speaker 12: days of sick leave. Yeah, you know year, right, so

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Speaker 12: you get maybe forty hours a year. How are you

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Speaker 12: going to spend that? Oh, I seem to have tonselidis.

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Speaker 12: Do you have to take care of a sick child

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Speaker 12: or do you just say I need a mental healthy

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Speaker 12: for myself. So I think that is what they're looking at,

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Speaker 12: that this would fall under that. But they're worried that

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Speaker 12: more people are going to take the time off and

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Speaker 12: that's going to cost companies more.

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Speaker 2: Too interesting, Dan, Thank you, Dan Mitchinson, US correspondent, will

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Speaker 2: talk to you again next week. Enjoy your weekend and

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Speaker 2: your Menindez Brother's viewing here, the tics are actually arachnids.

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Speaker 2: They're related to spiders. That just makes it worse, doesn't it.

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Speaker 2: Knowing that spider is sucking your blood as well as

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Speaker 2: the Spider's bad enough. Now King Charles has given a

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Speaker 2: speech at Chogham. He emphasized the importance of standing together

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Speaker 2: as we see more global tension. He's talked about the

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Speaker 2: challenges of disinformation and extremism, and then he also went

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Speaker 2: hard on climate change.

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Speaker 13: We are well passed believing it is a problem for

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Speaker 13: the future since it is already.

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Speaker 8: Undermining the development gains we have long afforded for.

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Speaker 2: Barry Soper is with US next coming up Quarter two.

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Speaker 1: Politics with centric credit, check your customers and get payments, certainty.

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Speaker 2: Very so senior political correspondence with US now are buried.

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Speaker 14: Good afternoon, Heather.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So, jeez, Willie Jackson's very upset about Prebble being

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Speaker 2: being as appointed to the White Hongey Tribunal.

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Speaker 14: Yes, well, the appointment was announced a by this time yesterday,

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Speaker 14: in fact, when we were just going to air. And

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Speaker 14: the irony is with Richard Prebble being appointed is that

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Speaker 14: he first came to Parliament in nineteen seventy five and

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Speaker 14: that's the very year that the White Hongey Tribunal was established.

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Speaker 14: So he's got a pretty good understanding of the tribunal.

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Speaker 14: Not only that he's an experienced lawyer. He was, as

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Speaker 14: we know, an MP, was a Cabinet minister and a

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Speaker 14: fairly prominent one under the Longey administration. Apparently he's has

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Speaker 14: a great knowledge of Maldi language and he's as a lawyer,

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Speaker 14: he's represented EU on their behalf on various forupes. But

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Speaker 14: the entries thing is the Act put out a statement

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Speaker 14: of course on the announcement and of course he used

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Speaker 14: to be the leader of Act and it said, and

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Speaker 14: this is probably what God under all Willy skin was

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Speaker 14: that Act looked forward. It said to his contributions, ensuring

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Speaker 14: that the Treaty of why Tongy is interpreted and applied

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Speaker 14: in a manner that reflects what it actually says. And

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Speaker 14: of course, with that, because we all know that the

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Speaker 14: Treaty Principal's Bill is being sponsored by David Seymour Well

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Speaker 14: Labour's Willie Jackson, he says that Prev's appointment is simply unbelievable.

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Speaker 14: This is what he said on Radio New Zealand this morning.

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Speaker 15: I think it's a shocking appointment. It's a real kick

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Speaker 15: in the guts for Mary. Here we've got a government

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Speaker 15: saying they're not anti Maori and defending themselves in terms

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Speaker 15: of getting rid of the real according in the legislation

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Speaker 15: text right across the specter and they appoint Richard Preble.

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Speaker 15: It's unbelievable. Really, it's like a point in Mike to

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Speaker 15: run national radio, or he should be the head of

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Speaker 15: public broadcasting. I mean, what needs is he going to

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Speaker 15: run the Tribunal. It's just a real kick in the

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Speaker 15: guts for Martin Well.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's actually quite funny and a.

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Speaker 14: Terrible I think it's funny he said it on Radio

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Speaker 14: New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: It's a really bad analogy from him because I would

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Speaker 2: argue that probably Aura and Z could do with having

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Speaker 2: Mike Holskin run the show, given that he is the

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Speaker 2: most successful radio broadcaster in the country. Right, yeah, well

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Speaker 2: they should be grateful asking it.

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Speaker 14: At one stage, of course Front Morning.

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Speaker 2: Report and it was actually half decent.

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Speaker 14: And it was half decent then, but look at it now,

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Speaker 14: Well there you go. You know, we'll look at the

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Speaker 14: whole station to be perfectly honest. And you don't want

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Speaker 14: to criticize your opposition.

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Speaker 2: And yet you have yet you have.

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Speaker 14: I listened to it every day, but I don't get

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Speaker 14: a hell of a lot out of it.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, And you keep going, okay, that's enough

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Speaker 2: of that now listen to the Ministry of Health. Could

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Speaker 2: you explain to me why the Ministry of Health did

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Speaker 2: not tell the Minister Casey Costello that one of the

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Speaker 2: people that she was relying on, in fact the sister

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Speaker 2: in law of her opponent.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, it's a disgrace. Actually, Love apologized the Health Ministry

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Speaker 14: now for not declaring that.

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Speaker 2: Telling everything they must have they should knew, because i mean,

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Speaker 2: come on, they had leak after leak after leak of

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Speaker 2: health documents coming out, and surely at some stage they

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Speaker 2: should have been I'm not saying that it was the

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Speaker 2: sister in law who was doing it, but at some

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Speaker 2: stage they should have been like, where could these leaks

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Speaker 2: possibly have come from? By the way, we should probably

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Speaker 2: tell you about this.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, no, no, it's they've fallen well short and there

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Speaker 14: should be some action. I think it.

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Speaker 2: Actually, you'd have to be suspicious that they sat on

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Speaker 2: that information deliberately.

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Speaker 14: Well, absolutely, I mean the acting Director General of how

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Speaker 14: for Marie Roberts. She said the ministry official had adhered

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Speaker 14: strictly to the conflict of interest rules, but the Ministry

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Speaker 14: had failed to then specifically pass on the conflict to

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Speaker 14: Casey Costello. Well, honestly, they sat on that knowledge knowing

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Speaker 14: full well that the person that was advising Casey Costello

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Speaker 14: on tobacco legislation was in fact the sister in law

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Speaker 14: of a Cheverrol. Now verel knew that too and obviously

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Speaker 14: sat on that information. And you can't tell me that

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Speaker 14: as Chris Hipkins has indicated that it was a distant relative.

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Speaker 14: I mean it's a sister in law. Hipkins said that

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Speaker 14: he pointed the finger at Winston Peters, who's been making

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Speaker 14: a lot of noise about this in Parliament this week.

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Speaker 14: He said Peter's actions were yet another example of the

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Speaker 14: government's contempt for workers. I mean, get real, he said,

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Speaker 14: Winston Peters has dragged another MP's family into political debate

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Speaker 14: and named and attack a public servant who can't answer

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Speaker 14: back a man. Rarely where does Chris Hipkins.

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Speaker 2: Come from trying to pretend that I Scheverral's sister in

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Speaker 2: law has some poor hard done by worker.

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Speaker 14: That's right.

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Speaker 2: Oh jeez, Verry, thanks very much. I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Rap the political week that was later with you, that's

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Speaker 2: very sober, Senior political reporter Chaipa. If it wasn't for

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Speaker 2: the fact that he had such a nice smiley face.

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Speaker 2: You'd just be so cross at him the whole time.

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Speaker 2: Eight away from six.

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Speaker 1: Putting the time questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 16: Social Investment Minister Nicola Willis is with us. To my eye,

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Speaker 16: it's got a slightly wooly sort of feel. I mean,

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Speaker 16: what is social investment, what specifically is it and what changes?

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Speaker 17: Well you think about basic concept. Everyone in New Zealand degrees.

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Speaker 17: Let's not have an ambulance at the bottom of the quest.

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Speaker 18: Let's build thing.

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Speaker 17: That's what social investment's about.

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Speaker 18: It's about proper prevention and proper.

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Speaker 17: Early intervention so that people don't go on to lead

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Speaker 17: life of crime, wealthy, dependency, under achievement, cleaning all of

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Speaker 17: that up and being much more pristical about what we

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Speaker 17: invest in and whether it's working.

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Speaker 16: Fact Tuesday from six am, the Mike Hosking Breakfast at

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Speaker 16: the Rain driver of the last news talk ZV.

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Speaker 2: Hey, as I was telling earlier, by the way, it's

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Speaker 2: four away from five, not six, I'm getting ahead of myself,

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Speaker 2: just trying to get to that long weekend, aren't you.

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Speaker 2: By the way, as I was telling you earlier, it's

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Speaker 2: a big day for Luxeon today because he's going to

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Speaker 2: have dinner with Charles and Camilla at Chogham along with

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Speaker 2: all the other heads of government, and he's got to

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Speaker 2: meet the King for the first time. And even for

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Speaker 2: somebody who identifies as a soft Republican, I reckon that

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Speaker 2: would be pretty cool. It sounds like the chat Win

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Speaker 2: quite well.

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Speaker 19: I wished him all the very best from all of

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Speaker 19: us in New Zealand for a speedy recovery and importantly also, yeah,

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Speaker 19: it was very obvious in our conversation that he has deep,

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Speaker 19: deep affection for New.

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Speaker 2: Zealand, not deep enough to come and visit us. So

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Speaker 2: let's calm that farm right down. But anyway, I suppose

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Speaker 2: the man's got an excuse at the moment he's not

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Speaker 2: particularly well. We're going to talk to Jason Wall's, a

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Speaker 2: political editor who is in some ware at Chogham. He

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Speaker 2: will be with us after five. David Warner is back,

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Speaker 2: as in like David Old sand Paper Gate, Ossie, Cricket,

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Speaker 2: evil Nemesis, you know, bad guy. He's back because Cricket

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Speaker 2: Australia has scrapped the lifetime leadership band that they gave him.

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Speaker 2: And this was by the way, just to because you're

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Speaker 2: probably wondering, like, how long has that been? Six years

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Speaker 2: Sam paper Gate was six years ago. Anyway, what happened

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Speaker 2: is that Cricket Australia changed the rules recently so that

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Speaker 2: players could appeal bands like this, like really long term bands,

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Speaker 2: and he thought about it and he decided he wasn't

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Speaker 2: going to because he couldn't be bother going through all

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Speaker 2: the kerfuffle because they really got done over these guys.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they got their punishment from the public on it.

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Speaker 2: But in the end somebody convinced him, now you need

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Speaker 2: to appeal. So he has a three person panel found

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Speaker 2: him to be genuinely sorry. He says he's taken responsibility.

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Speaker 2: He says he's been doing good things. He's been mentoring

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Speaker 2: the next generation of cricketers and blah blah blah, and

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Speaker 2: so basically the band's gone. He will now be able

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Speaker 2: to hold a formal leadership role with the Big Bash

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Speaker 2: League's Sydney Thunder this summer. So he's back doing the

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Speaker 2: thing that he loves. And we're going to have a

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Speaker 2: chat to the Sports Tuddle when they're with us after

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Speaker 2: hulf Us five about whether whether we're going to light

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Speaker 2: or has he actually done his time. I tend to

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Speaker 2: think he's done his time. So we have a chat

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Speaker 2: to them about that. And remember Mark Mitchell is also

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Speaker 2: with us very shortly on what that meeting has resolved

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Speaker 2: in terms of what to do on the buses. News

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Speaker 2: Talks dB.

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Speaker 1: Pressing the newspakers to get the real story. It's hither

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Speaker 1: dup to c Ellen drive with one New Zealand, let's

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Speaker 1: get connected.

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Speaker 4: News Talks dB.

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Speaker 2: Afternoon. The Prime Minister has met King Charles for the

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Speaker 2: first time. They're both at the Commonwealth Heads of Government

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Speaker 2: meeting and some more and Christopher Luxen says his meeting

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Speaker 2: with the King went well.

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Speaker 19: He was very knowledgeable about a number of issues, very

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Speaker 19: knowledgeable about New Zealand, very interested in New Zealand. And

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Speaker 19: you know, it was a very natural conversation and it

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Speaker 19: was just the two of us sitting outside and having

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Speaker 19: a chat on a couple of seats.

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Speaker 2: News talks HEDB Political edits to Jason Woolls. Is in

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Speaker 2: some war for us? Hey, Jason, good afternoon, Header. Do

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Speaker 2: we know what the two of them talked about?

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Speaker 20: We have very little information as to what actually they

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Speaker 20: talked about. I mean, there is this apparently according to

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Speaker 20: the Prime Minister. There is a bit of a royal

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Speaker 20: protocol where you don't actually talk about what was said,

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Speaker 20: but you can kind of give a sort of vague

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Speaker 20: implication as what they talked about. And as you just

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Speaker 20: heard in that clip, they talked about how much the

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Speaker 20: King likes New zealand how much he has a deep

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Speaker 20: knowledge for it, and the Prime Minister said that he

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Speaker 20: was quite charming. So we know quite a lot of

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Speaker 20: surface level information such as that, but anything a little

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Speaker 20: bit deeper we probably won't know.

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Speaker 2: Did Luxon apologize over the navy ship sinking?

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Speaker 20: Well, listen, he's sort of always has apologized in a sense,

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Speaker 20: I mean, he said from the beginning. He said he's

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Speaker 20: made his apologies clear to the Samoan governments and that

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Speaker 20: has been a theme throughout this whole time he's been

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Speaker 20: in Samoa for the Commonwealth Heads Forum. He talked about

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Speaker 20: it yesterday when he was addressing press. He talked about

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Speaker 20: it again today. But interestingly, interestingly, on the other side

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Speaker 20: of town, we're talking to Deputy Prime Minister Winston Peters

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Speaker 20: who said that there is no apology necessary essentially, and

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Speaker 20: we just got finished with that stand up. So it

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Speaker 20: sounds like the two. We were on a slightly different

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Speaker 20: footing when it comes to that. But of course the

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Speaker 20: Prime Minister says he's already conveyed those apologies, so it's

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Speaker 20: already been done.

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Speaker 2: So tell me what's the vibe that you're getting there

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Speaker 2: on the ground. Are they angry about the thing going down?

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Speaker 11: Oh?

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Speaker 20: Well, the thing is it's literally on the other side

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Speaker 20: of the island, so we can't physically see it, and

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Speaker 20: so there isn't this looming shadow from where we're sitting. However,

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Speaker 20: obviously it is metaphorically looming over this over Choggham. I mean,

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Speaker 20: there is a New Zealand Navy vessel that sunk in

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Speaker 20: their waters. I mean, there is a lot of climate

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Speaker 20: mitigation work going on.

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Speaker 3: Luxon was very clear.

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Speaker 20: Yesterday that it has not been as bad as he

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Speaker 20: thought it was or any of the initial estimates in

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Speaker 20: terms of the environmental damage, and he said he's talking

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Speaker 20: that up to a big a good win, and of

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Speaker 20: course the fact that nobody died. So at this stage,

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Speaker 20: because there is a very limited environmental damage, it doesn't

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Speaker 20: seem like there is overwhelming upset. There was, as I understand,

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Speaker 20: supposed to be a protest planned around that, but that

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Speaker 20: didn't even go ahead today, so you know, if a

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Speaker 20: protest doesn't go ahead, you can't really assume that things

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Speaker 20: are really out of control with anger.

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Speaker 2: There's some very interesting that Charles and his speech actually

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Speaker 2: addressed this issue of his government over in the UK

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Speaker 2: paying reparations for slavery, historic slavery. Has it been any

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Speaker 2: reaction to.

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Speaker 3: That in terms of the Prime Minister.

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Speaker 20: No, we were pretty focused on just I mean, there

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Speaker 20: was a lot of climate change chat that commentary that

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Speaker 20: King Charles had in his speech, and we briefly try

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Speaker 20: to bring it up with Winston Peters, who is less

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Speaker 20: than forthcoming to reporters about whether New Zealand has to.

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Speaker 3: Or what his reaction was to that.

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Speaker 20: But it's the sort of thing. You know, you have

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Speaker 20: these deliberate lines in these set piece speeches, especially from

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Speaker 20: a monarch, that are specifically designed to set a news

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Speaker 20: agenda and start a conversation, and you can bet your

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Speaker 20: bottom dollar that's exactly what the press team and the

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Speaker 20: Royal in Castle Windsor we're doing.

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Speaker 3: Brilliant.

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Speaker 2: Jason, thanks very much, enjoy your time. There's news talks

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Speaker 2: there be political leader to Jason Woosey over in the UK.

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Speaker 2: This has been a massive, massive debate of late as

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Speaker 2: to whether the UK government needs to pay reparations to

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Speaker 2: people who were affected in country colonial You know, parts

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Speaker 2: of the colony and parts of the Empire that were

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Speaker 2: affected by the Transatlantic slave trade, and the precious really

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Speaker 2: been ratcheted up on the government. Sir Ki Starhm has

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Speaker 2: shot that down, but so has Charles today in his speech,

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Speaker 2: which I thought was interesting because normally they're supposed to

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Speaker 2: stay out of politics awebit. He acknowledged there were painful

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Speaker 2: aspects of Britain's past and then said none of us

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Speaker 2: can change the past, but we can commit to learning

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Speaker 2: its lessons, indicating no reparations coming. Eleven past five.

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Speaker 4: Heather Duplice Ellen Now.

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Speaker 2: Officials have held an urgent meeting this afternoon following the

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Speaker 2: fatal bus attack in Auckland on Wednesday. Thirty seven year

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Speaker 2: old kale Le Owner has been charged with murder. He

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Speaker 2: will appear in court next month. Auckland Transport Police and

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Speaker 2: government minister Simi and Brown and Mark Mitchell were involved

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Speaker 2: in today's meeting. Mark Mitchell is obviously the police minister Hamrich.

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Speaker 5: Hi, how are you very well?

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Speaker 2: Thank you so did you make any decisions at this

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Speaker 2: meeting today.

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Speaker 21: So basically, Sabian's going to have some announcements to make tomorrow.

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Speaker 21: From the police side of it, police had already searched

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Speaker 21: additional staff in and around the transport nodes and hubs

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Speaker 21: as a source of reassurance. We want to reassure people.

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Speaker 21: We want them to feel that it's safe to access

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Speaker 21: and use public transport and look to be honestly, there's

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Speaker 21: been some conversations over the last few weeks attempt with

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Speaker 21: Auckland transporters as well in terms of what else can

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Speaker 21: we do to sort of make that public transport yet

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Speaker 21: we're safe up.

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Speaker 2: So I mean, I'm guessing that I'm guessing the announcements tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: The fact that there's an announcement means something's going to change,

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Speaker 2: and I'm guessing that's going to be boosting safety on

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Speaker 2: at least some of the buses.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, yeah, I think some of it. And his team

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Speaker 21: will be working really hard on this and I think

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Speaker 21: that he will have an announcement tomorrow. I don't want

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Speaker 21: to get ahead of that. I can certainly talk to

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Speaker 21: what police have been doing. I mean, you know, they've

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Speaker 21: been outstanding their response. The offender nows and custody, which

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Speaker 21: was critically important. They'll have more to say and more

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Speaker 21: information to come in relation to the incident. But now

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Speaker 21: I'm really focused on reassurance and also, of course my

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Speaker 21: heart goes out to the family. I've reached out to

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Speaker 21: them and said if they want me to come and

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Speaker 21: see them with the visiting, I can do to support them.

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Speaker 21: They only have to ask Mitch.

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Speaker 2: Look, the thing is, I appreciate that there will be

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Speaker 2: an element of kind of making reassuring the public by

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Speaker 2: putting a safety element on the buses, but the fact

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Speaker 2: is that's not actually going to solve the fundamental problem here.

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Speaker 2: The fundamental problem is that we have got more people

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Speaker 2: in society who are acting up and who are unwell

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Speaker 2: and probably need to spend time behind bars. Isn't that

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Speaker 2: really how we fix this?

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Speaker 21: Yeah, it is a societal issue, without a doubt, it's

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Speaker 21: a big one and there's something that we have to

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Speaker 21: really figure out and tackle. I mean, it doesn't matter

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Speaker 21: whether it's our first responders, whether it's retail workers. For

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Speaker 21: some reason in society, some people seem to have taken

873
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 21: taken upon themselves that they can act in a way

874
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 21: that's actually not acceptable, whether it be verbal or physical assaults,

875
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 21: and that is something that you know we're having to

876
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 21: deal with. But I'm optimistic. I'm very focused. We're very

877
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 21: focused in terms of what we have to do around policing,

878
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,720
Speaker 21: and I'm also quite excited about the fact that obviously

879
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 21: we've got our Social Investment Agency standing up and that

880
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 21: is going to in my view, that is how we're

881
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 21: going to get lasting change in terms of dealing with

882
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 21: these real, deep, inter generational problems that we've been experiencing

883
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 21: as a country for a long time.

884
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 2: All Right, Mitch, thanks very much, Mark Mitchell, Police Minister together,

885
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 2: do for sea el get a load of this. Okay,

886
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 2: If Wellington City keeps fixing the pipes underneath the ground,

887
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 2: all the broken pipes and stuff at the rate that

888
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 2: they are at the moment, it will only take six thousand,

889
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 2: three hundred and eighty eight years to replace them all.

890
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 2: So when none of us are going to be around

891
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 2: for that, are we probably? But you're being rated for it.

892
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 2: We're paying the rates for the next six thousand, three

893
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty eight years in Wellington. Aren't ye imported?

894
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,919
Speaker 2: Or are They're doing a little bit faster. It'll take

895
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 2: them to replace all the broken pipes and what not

896
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 2: five three hundred and twenty five years. Hut City absolutely fantastic.

897
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 2: They will nail it in three hundred and seventy one years.

898
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 2: And if you live in Wellington and you really want

899
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 2: to relocate to a place where the pipes are going

900
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 2: to be fixed with priority and much quicker, moved to

901
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 2: Upper Hut because there it will only take two hundred

902
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: and thirty three years. Quarter past here, the security guards

903
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 2: on buses would probably be a pointless waste of money.

904
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 2: They would be in the same category as the security

905
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 2: guards who sit outside Michael Hill jewelry stores and people

906
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 2: who sit in a van all day while watching YouTube videos,

907
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 2: neither of which would be able to stop an incident happening.

908
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 2: I totally agree with you on that, Robin. Right now,

909
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 2: it's eighteen past five. Now do you remember the Ardeppa

910
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 2: brain drink saga, Well, these guys are taking another crack

911
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 2: at this. About this time last year, Ardepa found themselves

912
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 2: in hot water when the government officials decided that made

913
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 2: some unsubstantiated health claims of cognitive and physical physical boosting

914
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 2: abilities and stuff, and they were forced to amend these claims.

915
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 2: They are now back launching a new brain drink plus.

916
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 2: It's called Uplift and Angus Brown is a co founder

917
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 2: of Ardepa Hay.

918
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 3: Angus half known either Hi, I'm.

919
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 2: Very well, thank you. So is this actually you can

920
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: say a brain drink this time you're not going to

921
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 2: get in trouble.

922
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 22: Yes, So we canively say a brain drink.

923
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 11: And we're very proud to say a brain drink.

924
00:41:58,480 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 2: Why is it a brain drink?

925
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 22: Well, it's a brain drink because we've committed a lot

926
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 22: of time and effort towards conducting human clinical research and

927
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 22: having that peer review and published and at showing some

928
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 22: really interesting things.

929
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 2: What are the interesting things?

930
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 22: Well, unfortunately, due to the food code here in New Zealand,

931
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 22: we're unable to say the outcomes of our research until

932
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 22: we've put that through a.

933
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 11: Self substantiated dossier.

934
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 22: And so we have already submitted our first self substantiated

935
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 22: dossia with regards to one of our ingredients called our

936
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 22: thenain and then we're just waiting for more of our

937
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 22: published research to come through before we submit something entirely

938
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 22: on our formula.

939
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:45,919
Speaker 3: But we know.

940
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 22: That there's definitely something in the drink that works, and

941
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 22: we're really excited to slowly show the world about it.

942
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 2: Are you as frustrated at redtape in this country as

943
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 2: I am?

944
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 22: Yeah, it is quite to it's tough being a food product.

945
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 22: If we're a dietary supplement, we would be able to

946
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 22: talk about our published research more and link it even

947
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 22: on our website. So it's really really it is a

948
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 22: really tough market. But we kind of I kind of

949
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 22: respect that in a way in sense that you really

950
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 22: have to hold yourself to the highest standard to be

951
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 22: able to claim something in a food which is you know,

952
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 22: to be honest.

953
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 11: That the biggest goal.

954
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 22: And so we're on that journey and we're certainly making

955
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 22: some strides towards it, and we're still one of the

956
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 22: only drinks that you can pick up in the supermarket

957
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 22: that's got clinical research behind it. And then this learning

958
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 22: and this toughness in New Zealand is teaching us about

959
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 22: how we can become fitter for entering into bigger markets

960
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 22: like the US.

961
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 11: So it's a blessing and a curse.

962
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 2: Hey, so where are you at with R But did

963
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 2: you manage to get this turned around by MPI? You're

964
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 2: still fighting them.

965
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 22: No so Empire, so it's a bit of phoebe there.

966
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 22: So MPI have given us the all clear for all

967
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 22: of our labeling.

968
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 11: And website, which is great.

969
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 22: We've been working with them very closely on that, and

970
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 22: then we've just submitted our first round of health claims

971
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,439
Speaker 22: that they are currently reviewing, so we're really looking forward

972
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 22: to and we're working closely with them on those health

973
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 22: claims to ensure that they comply with the schedule sex

974
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 22: and one point two point seven of Hey go about

975
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 22: doing this, it's a very hard feat. There are not

976
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 22: many companies in New Zealand that have been able to

977
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 22: get health claims signed off by MPI. So we're enjoying

978
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 22: the process and we're on really good terms with them.

979
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 2: Oh that's I'm pleased to hear it. I'm just loving

980
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 2: all that red tape you've got to get through. Angus.

981
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 2: That's Angus Brown, the ARTPA co founder. Hey, I want

982
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 2: to talk next about Shane Jones. He's done something I'm liking,

983
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 2: So let's discuss five twenty one.

984
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 4: The man you trust to get the answers you need.

985
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 1: Heather due to see allan drive with one New Zealand

986
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: let's get connected the news talk as z'd be.

987
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 2: It's twenty four past five. Now let me tell you

988
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 2: about something that I reckon is probably about the best

989
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 2: thing I've read today, and it's this Shane Jones given

990
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 2: an interview and he is revealed that when he and

991
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,919
Speaker 2: New Zealand first go through all the pieces of law,

992
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 2: deleting the Treaty principles from them like they've promised to do,

993
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: he is especially keen to focus on the Conservation Act

994
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 2: and the Treaty principles in there. Now, for the nerds,

995
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 2: we're talking about Section four of the Conservation Act, which

996
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 2: requires anyone working under the Act to give effect to

997
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 2: the principles of the Treaty of White Pungi when interpreting

998
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 2: or administering anything under the Act. And this, of course

999
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 2: is the Act that governs what the Department of Conservation does. Now,

1000
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 2: this is wonderful news because for the longest time I

1001
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 2: have been so frustrated at what the Treaty Principles in

1002
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 2: the Conservation Act is doing to DOC. It is part

1003
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 2: of the reason why DOC cannot find a buyer for

1004
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 2: the chateau and Tonga Edo because the local Ewi have

1005
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 2: used the treaty principle to insist that whoever buys that

1006
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 2: chateau only gets to run the place for the next

1007
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 2: five to ten years. Max and Doc has to do

1008
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 2: what the EWI says, because the treaty principle says it

1009
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 2: has to. Which investor, though, is going to pour millions

1010
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 2: and millions and millions and millions of dollars into fixing

1011
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 2: that place up if they know that they might only

1012
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 2: get five years of running the place. So they've tidied

1013
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 2: the place right up and then in five years that's it.

1014
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,959
Speaker 2: You're out. Sorry, your concession was for five years. Who's

1015
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 2: gonna put money into that? Who's gonna buy it? Nobody? Why?

1016
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 2: Treaty principle. It's also part of the reason the treaty

1017
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 2: principle is also part of the reason why there was

1018
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: so much trouble trying to find anyone to take over

1019
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 2: the to a pair whose ski fields and do it

1020
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 2: properly because the EWE once again got to call shots

1021
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 2: on the concessions because the treaty principle. And don't even

1022
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 2: get me started on what's going on with Lake y

1023
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 2: Kdemawana with the massive closures and the huts being removed

1024
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 2: and the disrepair because of Touhoi. Now DOC has got

1025
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 2: its hands tied, like absolutely tired by this treaty principle.

1026
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 2: It is from what I understand, this is DOC, in

1027
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 2: this relationship with EWE all around the country, not the

1028
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 2: dominant partner. Right, It doesn't get to call the shots.

1029
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 2: It is the subservient partner when it comes to making

1030
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 2: decisions because the treaty principle makes the local ee the

1031
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 2: dock prominent partner. Now that makes Doc's life very hard,

1032
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 2: and it also makes things very expensive for US taxpayers.

1033
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 2: So I'm glad that Shane Jones has got this particular

1034
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 2: treaty principle in this particular law in his sights. And also,

1035
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 2: do you know what the best but about it is,

1036
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 2: Unlike with them Acts Treaty Principles Bill, this actually has

1037
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 2: the support, by the sounds of things, of all of

1038
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 2: the coalition partners. So when they go through delete delete, delete, delete,

1039
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 2: nobody in that coalition is going to argue about it.

1040
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 2: It's going to get done. Ever, dupuy Ellen, We're going

1041
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 2: to talk to the sports Huttle very shortly. They'll bet

1042
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 2: the US straight after the news. Carmala Harris. Now listen,

1043
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 2: Carmala Harris is doing exactly the same thing that Clinton

1044
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton did in twenty sixteen. She is going hard

1045
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,439
Speaker 2: on the old celebrities, leaning hard on them to help

1046
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 2: her out. In the last couple of weeks of the campaign,

1047
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 2: so she had Obama as in Barack and Bruce Springsteen

1048
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 2: out helping her at a rally in Georgia. And now

1049
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 2: there are rumors that she is going to be roping

1050
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 2: in Beyonce as well. Now I know that you go, oh, whatever,

1051
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 2: Beyond say, we've heard this before because we all remember

1052
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 2: with the DNA see, and everybody's getting excited about Beyond

1053
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 2: Beyonce is going to be on stage. We'll sat around going, yep,

1054
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 2: is pink coolper Beyonce? And then she never showed up,

1055
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 2: and it was really weird because they just let us

1056
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 2: believe that nobody killed the rumors. But this time, apparently,

1057
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 2: according to three people familiar with the matter, Beyonce is

1058
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 2: going to appear at a Houston rally for Karmela in

1059
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 2: the next day or so, so we might finally get

1060
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 2: our wish a free concert from Beyonce. Headline's next.

1061
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: On your smart speaker on the iHeart app and in

1062
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 1: your car on your drive home, hither dup to see

1063
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 1: allan drive with one New Zealand let's get connected and

1064
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 1: news talk as z' beelsdy.

1065
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 22: Just take it.

1066
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 2: It's to find us desperation. If you're needing to lean

1067
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 2: so heavily on so called celebrit they're not listen. Beyonce's

1068
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 2: I'm so called celebrity, Nora's, Barack Obama, Nors, Bruce Springstring,

1069
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 2: they are just straight out celebrities. These are like a

1070
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 2: class celebrities. But it's not a great it's not a

1071
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 2: great strategy, and I probably should have finished my thought

1072
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 2: earlier because the problem is Hillary did this in twenty sixteen,

1073
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 2: and what it made her look like was completely out

1074
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 2: of touch with the common person because she was she

1075
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 2: was Hilary. He hung out with celebrities, and meanwhile Donald

1076
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 2: Trump was out there rooting for the common man and

1077
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 2: kind of ish. Karmela's not falling into the same same

1078
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 2: trapped kind of the same extent, but she's not far

1079
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 2: off it because Trump's Flippenburger's at McDonald's, but she's hanging

1080
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 2: out with Beyonce's probably I don't know, and he's hanging

1081
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 2: out with the Hulk Hogan, all those kinds of people,

1082
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So it's kind of starting

1083
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 2: to do the same thing all over again. Listen, I

1084
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 2: don't know if you caught it in the bulletin just before,

1085
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:55,760
Speaker 2: but Chippies acknowledged calling Aisheviril's sister in law was maybe

1086
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Speaker 2: not a fib that he should have told. He said

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Speaker 2: he chosen the wrong form of words when he described

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Speaker 2: her as a distant relative. He says, I'll own that

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Speaker 2: it was an impromptu question from the media that I

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Speaker 2: wasn't necessarily expecting, which is to say, when I get questions,

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Speaker 2: I'm not expecting. I just think I should have used

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Speaker 2: a different phrase. I should have said relation by marriage

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00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 2: or some other description. I mean, what, who cares? Just so, yeah,

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00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 2: it's a relative. Listen, after six o'clock, we're going to

1095
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 2: but good on him for you know, like I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: forgive him it out because at least he fest up

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00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 2: and was I get what was a mistake. Now, some

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00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,919
Speaker 2: of Wellington's luminaries have banded together to form a group

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Speaker 2: to try to save Wellington City from the shamozzle it

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Speaker 2: finds itself in. Frankly it's eighteen of them who formed

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Speaker 2: a group called Vision for Wellington and it's a pretty

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00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 2: punchy group this It's got Kerry Prendergast in there, Dame

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Speaker 2: excuse me, Dame Kerry Prendergast, Dame Patsy Ready, Dame Therese Walsh,

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Speaker 2: Dame fran Wild, Sir Bob Jones, Rob Morrison, Miles Rob

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00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 2: Morrison's a very very well to do businessman, Miles Gaisley,

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00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 2: the guy who sells all the cars and is you know,

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00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,919
Speaker 2: man about town. Simon Wolf the photographer and also former

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00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 2: Wellington City councilor current Regional counselor. Mike Egan who owns

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Speaker 2: Monsoon Peronin is a mover and shaker in the hospitality business.

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Speaker 2: Our very own fran O'Sullivan, they're very lucky to have her.

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00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 2: And then Neil Paviersmith who's the Forsyth bar managing director,

1112
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 2: former Victoria University chancellor, and the list goes on like

1113
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 2: it's a really it's a smart group of people. They

1114
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 2: have apparently been working in the background for months, but

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00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 2: they were forced to show their hand when the government intervened,

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00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 2: and the suggestion is that they may have lobbied the

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00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 2: government to intervene. We're going to talk to fran Wild

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00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 2: after six. We'll ask her about that also, what I

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00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 2: It's one thing to form a group, but what are

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Speaker 2: you going to do now that you've formed a group?

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00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 2: Will have chat to her and just see what the

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00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 2: plan is. Twenty two away from.

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Speaker 1: Six Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty

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Speaker 1: elevate the marketing of your home Chance Chance and Gone

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00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 1: Washington Sunder's.

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Speaker 15: Got for As each goes, the preparation picks up another

1127
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 15: level and it's about making.

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Speaker 5: Sure that we're connected closely as a group.

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00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 20: Game over New Zealand, comprehensive winners.

1130
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 7: Over Australia for the second game in a row.

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00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 2: On the Sports title this evening we had Andrew Gordy

1132
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 2: n zbkey we head of Communications and Nick Bewley, News

1133
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 2: Talk ZB Canterbury Sports Reader.

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00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 19: Hello you too, evening.

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00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 2: Hit up Nick, tell me you've heard of Washington Cinder before.

1136
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 23: I have, probably not to the same degree that I

1137
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 23: did yesterday when he took seven for Korea beast figures

1138
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,280
Speaker 23: in a first class match, let alone in a Test

1139
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 23: match against New Zealand. But yeah, seven wickets it was

1140
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 23: always going to be a spinner's paradise, wasn't it? The

1141
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 23: wherever the next Test was after our boys, our seam

1142
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,720
Speaker 23: bowlers in particular Matt Henry and Will O'Rourke, caused havoc

1143
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 23: in that First Test to a famous victory for New Zealand.

1144
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 3: But now we're sort of back to where we're more accustomed.

1145
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 23: To being in India, of battling the unfamiliar conditions. Although

1146
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 23: I see both our spinners AJS Patel and Mitchell Sant

1147
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 23: there as things standard are trying to make a good

1148
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 23: fist of it in response.

1149
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's going to be a tough ass, that's

1150
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 3: for sure.

1151
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 2: Is it going to be a tough ask? Audio or

1152
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:16,879
Speaker 2: would you still write our chances?

1153
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 6: Oh, it's always a tough ask.

1154
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 24: Heither, and I think we probably should have expected it

1155
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 24: was going to be a tough ask after that performance

1156
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 24: in the First Test, expecting nothing other than to play

1157
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 24: cricket on an absolute dust bowl of a pitch there

1158
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 24: and no surprise to see Indian spinners claim all ten wickets.

1159
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 24: It's probably not even really much point in playing any

1160
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 24: past bowlers in this Test. So yeah, looking forward to

1161
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 24: seeing what ags and Santana can do. But I wouldn't

1162
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 24: rule us out completely just yet. She's still early days.

1163
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 2: She is early days, right, I mean, if you think

1164
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 2: about it, Nick, we notched up to fifty nine. That's

1165
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 2: not the world's worst innings.

1166
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 23: No, obviously, there's two hundred and fifty eight numbers lower

1167
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 23: than two dred and fifty nine. Heare little Look yeah

1168
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 23: for one, yeah, look, look, but I suppose the counter

1169
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 23: to that is it could have been a lot better.

1170
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 3: I mean, New Zealand found themselves in a pretty handy

1171
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 3: position there. Thing it's about one eighty to three.

1172
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,919
Speaker 23: Some established batters just didn't go on as they did

1173
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 23: in Bengalaru guys like Conway Ravendra and then the middle

1174
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 23: to lower order, which has been a real archy ales

1175
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 23: here for this New Zealand Test cricket side for some

1176
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,919
Speaker 23: time sort of wilted under the pressure. So look, yeah,

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00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 23: as Gordy said that, they're not out of it. This

1178
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 23: is a critical day though. You know, India could really

1179
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 23: take it beyond a Black Caps win here if they

1180
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 23: can knuckle down and handle our spinners.

1181
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 2: Now, listen, Gordy, I reckon the most likely outcome in

1182
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 2: the netball between New Zealand and Australia is two a piece,

1183
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 2: isn't it. We win the two at home, they win

1184
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 2: the two in Australia and it's a tie.

1185
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 24: Yeah, I won't disagree with you there. That seems to

1186
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 24: be the way history goes with this competition, doesn't it.

1187
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 24: Two wins from New Zealand, two wins for Australia, or

1188
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 24: vice versa, depending on who's hosting the first game. So

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00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,240
Speaker 24: I don't actually personally mind the way that they've decided

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Speaker 24: to go about setting these new rules with a bit

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00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 24: of sort of sudden death extra time when it comes

1192
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Speaker 24: to deciding the overall tournament. Personally, I think there is

1193
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 24: perhaps an argument to retain the aggregate score, but perhaps

1194
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 24: that's only for the purpose of ensuring that neither team

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00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 24: sends a week in side across the tasma, knowing that

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00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 24: they can just simply stack their team when it comes

1197
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Speaker 24: across the other side.

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Speaker 6: So this sudden death stop.

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Speaker 2: It's much more fun, isn't it, Nick? Because I mean,

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Speaker 2: who wants to get to the end of the fourth

1201
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 2: mat the fourth game, and then we've got to go

1202
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 2: and sit there and count numbers to see who won.

1203
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 2: I'd rather have them battle it out for the next

1204
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 2: few minutes.

1205
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 3: Wouldn't you just to pivot back to the cricket. It

1206
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 3: looks like New Zealand a spin bowl is taken awak

1207
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 3: at here this that's pretty.

1208
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 2: Ext We took girl, didn't we.

1209
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 25: Review?

1210
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1211
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 23: Sorry, yeah, hopefully sends aren't listening. But yeah, back on

1212
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 23: the netball. I suppose in a perfect world personally, I mean,

1213
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 23: I can't stand even a mount of games in a series.

1214
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 23: You know, we need an odd number, you know, New

1215
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 23: Zealand cricket, just to go back to that.

1216
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,800
Speaker 3: For so long we're given two Test series.

1217
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 23: It's brilliant that this one against India is actually three,

1218
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 23: But why can't we have five or three and alternate it,

1219
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 23: you know, aggregate but the extra time.

1220
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,439
Speaker 3: I like the extra time. But the year who sat

1221
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 3: there and.

1222
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 2: Went do you know what? We can decide who's the

1223
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 2: best if we play for like that person obviously didn't

1224
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 2: do school seemaths? Did they.

1225
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 3: No? No to agree?

1226
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 23: There's obviously there's obviously some sort of given and take

1227
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 23: there on both sides. Maybe they don't like being having

1228
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 23: to share. You know, you get more net this year

1229
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,959
Speaker 23: than vice versa the next year. But I think we're

1230
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 23: over complicating it. It adds an element of intrigue and I

1231
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 23: personally agree.

1232
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:50,240
Speaker 3: It's better than the aggregate score.

1233
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 23: I no one's to be sitting there with their calculator

1234
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 23: going off. We only lose by ten, We're still going

1235
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 23: to hold the trophy at the end, but.

1236
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 3: Just on the silver fence, like, well, where has this

1237
00:56:58,760 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 3: team been?

1238
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 23: Like I was sitting there watching the England series with

1239
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 23: my wife and they were just so far, you know,

1240
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 23: removed from what they look like against Australia, and Australia's

1241
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 23: beating England.

1242
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 3: It's a real kid scratcher that, you know.

1243
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:15,879
Speaker 23: Something's a significant turn of events obviously, but look, as

1244
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 23: the formers suggested and the history suggested this competition, whoever

1245
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 23: plays at home WinCE?

1246
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 2: Yeah too, right, Okay, we'll take a break. Come but

1247
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 2: by the way, Sat nabold Girl LBW, so the go.

1248
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 2: That's not bad at all. Come back and just to

1249
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 2: take sixte away from.

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Speaker 1: Six The Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty,

1251
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: local and global exposure like no other.

1252
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 2: Back with the Sports Hittle Andrew Gordy and Nick Buley. Gordy,

1253
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 2: what's going on? With Sports New Zealand spending all this

1254
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 2: money on these little like e little emails you can

1255
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 2: send volunteer coaches and it could send to about three

1256
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 2: hundred of minute across, like five hundred and seventy five

1257
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 2: dollars per email.

1258
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 24: I've just seen this this afternoon here that what on

1259
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 24: earth are they spending five hundred and seventy five dollars

1260
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 24: on an email for what can possibly go in to

1261
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 24: an email that costs five hundred and seventy five No,

1262
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 24: absolutely backfled by that.

1263
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 2: How much money do you reckon? You have to have

1264
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 2: to think that five hundred and seventy five dollars for

1265
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 2: an email that the rest of us just do for

1266
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 2: free is a good idea.

1267
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 6: Way too much.

1268
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 26: You've got to have way too and what we're talking

1269
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 26: one hundred and seventy one thousand, five hundred and ninety

1270
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 26: eight dollars to say thank you to a few coaches.

1271
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 26: There's way way better ways to spend that money. And

1272
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 26: I think people are kind of right to be outraged

1273
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 26: by this. There are I mean, we could come up

1274
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 26: with it. We could have a pretty good brainstorming session,

1275
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 26: I think, on this very show to figure out how

1276
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 26: we might be able to spend five hundred and seventy

1277
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 26: five dollars per person as a better way to say

1278
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 26: thank you.

1279
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 2: I literally would have rather than have anything than an

1280
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 2: email to say thank you, wouldn't you?

1281
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 23: It's not my choice of communication. I think you know

1282
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 23: the warmest regards.

1283
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 3: And all that. Just pick up the phone. I do

1284
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 3: work about that? Look what about it?

1285
00:58:58,560 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 2: If I gain you, shouldn't it.

1286
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 3: Be fivendred and seventy five dollars all up?

1287
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,439
Speaker 23: Because don't you just cut and paste the same thing?

1288
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 23: I just I'm baffled by it.

1289
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 8: All.

1290
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 3: You just changed the name, don't you. It's just bizarre.

1291
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 2: Would because because this is what we could have done

1292
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 2: is instead of sending them these emails, we could have

1293
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 2: bought each one of them fourteen crates of space. Now

1294
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 2: what would you rather have? An E card or fourteen

1295
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 2: crates of space?

1296
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 24: It wouldn't be spats, to be perfectly honest. So I

1297
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 24: think we could better option that space, couldn't we.

1298
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 26: I know that you were down there in.

1299
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 3: Christ tough for US Southern listeners, but yes.

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Speaker 24: I'm humping with something better than space perfectly well, I.

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Speaker 2: Would I would have taken the fourteen crates of space

1302
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Speaker 2: and then traded them for something else, like just maybe

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00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,959
Speaker 2: one creative parrot dog. But I would absolutely I would

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Speaker 2: absolutely have taken something in my hands, not just a

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00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 2: bloody email. It's ridiculous. Hey, Nick, do you reckon that

1306
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 2: that Warner's done his time and deserves to come back.

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Speaker 3: It's an interesting one, isn't it.

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Speaker 23: I'm a bit baffled by the whole thing, given he's

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Speaker 23: so late in his career. I know it's a lifetime

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Speaker 23: ban and a lifetime leadership ban. How do you even

1311
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 23: how do you police leadership? It's quite subjective, isn't I

1312
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 23: suppose it's just a captain's arm band. But you can

1313
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 23: be a mentor and a leader in any capacity. But yeah,

1314
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Speaker 23: I mean how long ago was it now? Twenty eighteen,

1315
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 23: six years ago? Lifetime ban? I think when we reflect,

1316
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 23: it's probably a little bit harsh when we compare it

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Speaker 23: up to other lifetime bans.

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Speaker 3: I'm personally okay with it.

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Speaker 23: I just think the whole thing's a bit weird, and

1320
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Speaker 23: maybe it's just more ego striking for David one.

1321
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Speaker 3: And I'm not too sure you, Gordy.

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Speaker 24: I think it's probably just another example how many times

1323
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 24: do you see in sport, especially some kind of lifetime

1324
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 24: ban dished out and then a few years later, once

1325
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 24: the dust is settled and everyone's forgotten about it, you

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01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 24: just overturn it. I mean, I think it was probably

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01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 24: just a bit of an overreaction at the time, but

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Speaker 24: I think if you cast your mind back to that period,

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Speaker 24: this was one of the most serious and appalling acts

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Speaker 24: in Australian sporting history that struck right at the very

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01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 24: heart of the integrity of Australian sport, which is pretty

1332
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 24: flimsy to be fair, but I can understand why they

1333
01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 24: came down hard at the time, but at zero surprised

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01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 24: to see them come to this point overturn at the

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Speaker 24: bloke's thirty seven years old. It's not as though when

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Speaker 24: it comes to wearing the baggy green he's going to

1337
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 24: have much more of a meaningful contribution to make to

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Speaker 24: Australian cricket in the years going forward. But when it

1339
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 24: comes to I suppose, you know, perhaps a post career

1340
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 24: and coaching and things like that, or god forbid, administration.

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Speaker 24: I don't know if I'd trust David Warner with any

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Speaker 24: kind of administrative role within you know, Australian cricket or

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Speaker 24: state cricket for that matter.

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Speaker 11: But I've got my issue with it.

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01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 2: Hey, Coally gone for one fifty three bowl by Saturary again,

1346
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 2: how thought about that? Stick your finger in the air

1347
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 2: and wave it about like you just don't care. Hey,

1348
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Speaker 2: I see, I'm a dad. I'm a dad making dad jokes.

1349
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 2: Neko see you're trying desperately to get us to give

1350
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 2: you an NRL franchise down there?

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Speaker 3: Oh desperately?

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Speaker 23: Well, I think you're just going to look at the

1353
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,919
Speaker 23: wave of momentum of Rugday League in the South Island Heather.

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Speaker 23: We've sold out this double header the Test the Kiwi

1355
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 23: fans and Kiwis and the Jilarus and Kangaroos on Sunday

1356
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 23: seventeen zerousand was sold out some time ago.

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Speaker 3: That's on top of the Warriors.

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Speaker 23: We're down here earlier in the year and sold out

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Speaker 23: our temporary stadium there.

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Speaker 3: They're coming back next year and they're pretty keen to Yeah, a.

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Speaker 2: Regular NRL law. Is it just because it's an event? Like,

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Speaker 2: are you guys just desperate for.

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Speaker 23: Any I mean that's a fair point. Look, is it

1364
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 23: the novelty factor? And we don't get a lot of

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Speaker 23: rugby league here. I tend to think that there is

1366
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 23: while it is, you know, by and large a rugby

1367
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 23: union region, that there is a groundswell of momentum building

1368
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:28,439
Speaker 23: in and around the code. We've now got the back

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01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 23: to back secondary school national title team Addison Thomas's.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of players playing both.

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Speaker 23: Sorry Gordy, look, but with the stadium and with the

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Speaker 23: NRL's ambitions to get to twenty teams, and yes, it

1373
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 23: almost looks at fat of Komple they're going to get

1374
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Speaker 23: into Papa New Guinea with some government support as well.

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Speaker 23: But it seems an absolute no brainer to me, and

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01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 23: I think it's long overdue. Hopefully Andrew Abdo and all

1377
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Speaker 23: those administrators looking.

1378
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Speaker 3: On Sunday just go. Look, it's a matter of when,

1379
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 3: not if, we need to get this done.

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Speaker 2: I'm increasingly convinced, Gordy, what about you?

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Speaker 24: I got to say, I'm changing my mind on this

1382
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 24: as well, because the point I would make is that

1383
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Speaker 24: when this NRL franchise was being talked about for the

1384
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 24: first time, it came off the back of the sensational crowds.

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Speaker 24: I suppose that they got for a Warriors ficture down

1386
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 24: there the preseason fixture and I was sort of sitting

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Speaker 24: there going is this about them supporting the Warriors or

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01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 24: supporting the code? And as you quite rightly say, nak

1389
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 24: turning out to watch the kiwis now which suggests it's

1390
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Speaker 24: more than just an NRL thing. It's a support for

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01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 24: the code and everything. Well, I suppose that rugby league

1392
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 24: in the NRAL has now become so I can see

1393
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 24: now that. Yeah, perhaps there is a change or turning

1394
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 24: of the tide there. It's not just about supporting the

1395
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 24: Warriors and the clear height that's being built around that club,

1396
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Speaker 24: especially over the last couple of years, but perhaps there

1397
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 24: is a genuine groundswell of support for the code itself.

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Speaker 24: And if you've got that, then you probably do have

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Speaker 24: the foundations to build a franchise down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have the idea. Guys. Thank you, Enjoy

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01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 2: your week in a sport appreciated. Get Andrew Gordy mcberley

1402
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 2: a huddle this evening, seven away from six.

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Speaker 1: I'm you're a smart speaker on the iHeart app and

1404
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 1: in your car on.

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Speaker 4: Your drive home.

1406
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 1: Heather Duplice Alan drive with one New Zealand one giant

1407
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Speaker 1: Leap for business news talk.

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Speaker 2: As I should include the Sports New Zealand statement, shouldn't I?

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01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 2: Primary goal of the Sports nd Z Coaching campaign was

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01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 2: to highlight the importance of volunteer coaches as fundamental contributors

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01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 2: to the well being of tamaikend rang atahi across altse

1412
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 2: heat or do you hate them already? Because that first

1413
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 2: sentence already triggered me, hasn't it is what word salad?

1414
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 2: General awareness of the campaign was high, with more than

1415
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 2: twelve point five million impressions across digital media and while

1416
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 2: there were two hundred and ninety eight personal messages of

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01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 2: thanks to coaches throughout New Zealand. The campaign was designed

1418
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 2: to highlight how important coaches are and to encourage more

1419
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Speaker 2: coaches to step up and volunteer, and without them, the

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Speaker 2: sports system could not function, and a secondary objective was

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01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 2: enabling young people to send a direct thank you to

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Speaker 2: their coach. I'll tell you what, I could save them

1423
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 2: a lot of money, guess So basically what they're saying

1424
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 2: is their actual ecard. Sending the emails was not actually

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01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 2: what it was about. It was just about raising awareness

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Speaker 2: of volunteers. What I would have done was I would

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Speaker 2: have got so they spend one hundred and seventy K, right,

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01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 2: so I would have taken maybe ten K, and then

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01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 2: I would have bought something really really cool for one

1430
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 2: volunteer coach. Then I would have gone to seven sharp

1431
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 2: and all the other soft media out there, and I

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01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 2: would have said, come and watch us treat this volunteer

1433
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 2: coach with this amazing present that we've bought for ten

1434
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 2: thousand dollars. And then I would have got shed loads

1435
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 2: of media coverage of it, and I would have saved

1436
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 2: myself one hundred and sixty thousand dollars and raise just

1437
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 2: as much awareness. Probably they need better media people. It's

1438
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 2: quite simple. Anyway, Now we're going to have to move

1439
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 2: on because now I've just decided to talk about them again.

1440
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 2: So they should probably have come on the show and

1441
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 2: talked themselves, because we've talked a lot about how stink

1442
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 2: Sport New Zealand is and no real defense from Sport

1443
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 2: New Zealand because they decided they didn't want to talk

1444
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 2: about it. They could have come on for free and

1445
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 2: talked about volunteer That would have helped raise them, like

1446
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. You could have come on

1447
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 2: and talked about it and then just been like volunteer

1448
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 2: coaches are awesome. Voluntary got some more digital awareness of

1449
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 2: it if they wanted to, if they're really smart at

1450
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 2: their jobs. Anyway, We're going to talk to Dame fran

1451
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 2: Wild next about what Vision New Zealand is going to do.

1452
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 2: Somebody's text through Collins texts through suggesting this team of

1453
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 2: eighteen people are going to try to influence the election

1454
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 2: the next council elections by standing a team who will

1455
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 2: do well for Wellington. I don't hate that idea. We'll

1456
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 2: ask her if that's what they're about. NEWSTALKSB to start them.

1457
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 1: We're Business meets Insight the Business Hour. We'd hinder Duplessy,

1458
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 1: Allen and my Hr on NEWSTALKSB.

1459
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 2: Even in coming up for the next hour. Antonio Gutris

1460
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 2: has turned up at that meeting in Russia, Brazil, Russia, India, China,

1461
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 2: South Africa, bricks for a lot of them. Peter Lewis

1462
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 2: is going to talk us through why he's there. Barry

1463
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 2: Soople will rap the political week that was and Gavin

1464
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:58,959
Speaker 2: Gray out of the UK for US seven past six.

1465
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 2: Now prominent Wellingtonians have formed a group to try to

1466
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 2: get the capital out of the doldrums. Sir Bob Jones,

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01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 2: Dames Patsy Ready and Kerry Prendergaste, even our own fran

1468
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 2: O'Sullivan are all members of the group Vision for Wellington,

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01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 2: that's what they're calling themselves. Is being pitched as a

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01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 2: non partisan group that will consult the public to work

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Speaker 2: out ways of fixing Wellington's problems. And also part of

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Speaker 2: the group is Dame fran Wild who's with us now,

1473
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 2: Hafran How are you, Heather. I'm very well and it's

1474
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 2: good to talk to you.

1475
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 3: Now.

1476
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 2: Tell me you've been around in Wellington for a while, right,

1477
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 2: How does this particular low point, this slump rate in

1478
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 2: terms of what you've seen? Is it the worst or

1479
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 2: is it comparable to what you saw in the late

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01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 2: eighties early nineties.

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Speaker 18: It's pretty bad. When I took over as mayor in

1482
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 18: the early nineties, it was Wellington was in the doldrums.

1483
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 18: But we got a council and that were prepared to

1484
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 18: work together and it was interesting. We had people of

1485
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 18: so versus Rex Nichols on one side and too Keduley

1486
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 18: who was Green, and yes, they all had their views,

1487
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 18: but there was a compromise enough to get big things done.

1488
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 18: And we don't seem to be getting this with this COUMP.

1489
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 2: Well, your reckon has gone wrong that they can't work together.

1490
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 18: I think it's just been a slow slide into it

1491
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 18: party politics, people just getting entrenched views and then personalizing issues.

1492
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 18: It's just not working. Local government should be different from that.

1493
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:25,599
Speaker 2: So what is vision for Wellington's plan?

1494
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 18: Well, first of all, it was just a few of

1495
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 18: us who every now and again saw one another and said,

1496
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 18: oh my god, you know it's pretty bad, and then well,

1497
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:37,680
Speaker 18: what are we going to do about it? And so

1498
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:39,680
Speaker 18: I'm glad you said the were ateen. I thought, oh

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01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 18: my gosh, I don't even know how many people there are,

1500
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 18: but there's a group. And we thought, why don't we

1501
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 18: actually say something publicly and say we want to provide

1502
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:52,639
Speaker 18: a platform where Wellingtonians, whoever they are, can come on

1503
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 18: board and be part of a conversation about how we

1504
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:57,680
Speaker 18: would like the city to be.

1505
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 2: Will you what candidates at the next election?

1506
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 18: Not as a group, not not that I'm aware of.

1507
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 18: We haven't certainly that's not been what our objective is.

1508
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 18: It's possible people may stand, but the group will get

1509
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 18: quite big. We think we've already had hundreds today contacting us.

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Speaker 18: But I think the one big thing about the next

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Speaker 18: election is people have to vote. In the last by election,

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Speaker 18: I think it was down to only about a quarter

1513
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 18: of the role voting. So frankly, I've always said, if

1514
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 18: you don't vote, you can't complain about the what the

1515
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:34,720
Speaker 18: bugers do?

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Speaker 21: You know?

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01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 18: Afterwards? You're disqualifying yourself from criticizing if you don't vote.

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01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 2: Talking talking is one thing, but I mean it would

1519
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 2: probably help if you had money behind you.

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Speaker 18: Do you No, we don't. But actually we're hoping that again,

1521
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 18: this will be something which will be much more generic, crowdsourced.

1522
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 18: This is not just a few wealthy people saying well

1523
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 18: a whole lot of money at it. We haven't even

1524
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 18: talked about that, frankly. But what we have talked about

1525
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:07,800
Speaker 18: quite recently, because it's all quite new, is we try

1526
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 18: and get some groups together to talk about different issues

1527
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,719
Speaker 18: and come up with some great ideas that we think

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01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 18: Wellingtonians generally will buy into and present them to the council.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I see what you're going to do there. So

1530
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:21,719
Speaker 2: how long have you guys been working together?

1531
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 3: Then?

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Speaker 18: It hasn't been that long. I've trying to work that

1533
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 18: out today. As I've said, it's grown from a few

1534
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 18: of us who saw each other every now and again

1535
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 18: to now in the last few weeks saying that we

1536
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 18: have to actually do something about this, and we probably

1537
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 18: should do something publicly. So it's pretty recent.

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01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 2: There is a suggestion that some members of the group

1539
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 2: had lobbied the government to get the government to intervene.

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01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 2: Is that true?

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01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 18: Well said, it's really interesting because I know we're all

1542
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 18: accused of having met up with particularly Simin Brown. Last

1543
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 18: time I saw him was December last year and it

1544
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 18: was actually talking about Auckland. Not willing to but nothing

1545
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 18: wrong in Auckland. Oh no, no, not perfect. But actually

1546
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:09,559
Speaker 18: it is possible people have talked to I mean, some

1547
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 18: of these people talk to menus. There's a lot they're

1548
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:14,800
Speaker 18: working with them. So I'm you know, yes, people will

1549
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 18: have talked to ministers, but actually we certainly haven't had

1550
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 18: a you know, any kind of formal lobby.

1551
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:26,640
Speaker 2: With informal not formally. Do you think the government's done

1552
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 2: the right thing to intervene.

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01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:33,599
Speaker 18: I certainly do. I think that the having a Crown

1554
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 18: observer is will be it's a big shot across the bows.

1555
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:40,680
Speaker 18: This is not just about the mayor of Bonington. This

1556
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:44,680
Speaker 18: is about the whole councilor and counselor behavior and so

1557
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 18: having somebody there watching how things are working, being able

1558
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:52,559
Speaker 18: to dig down a bit and see, you know, what

1559
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 18: is behind decision making will be really critical.

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Speaker 2: Friend, thank you so much for talking us through and

1561
01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 2: thanks also for stepping in to do something about it.

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01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 2: The city deserves it. Dame fran Wild, who's a Vision

1563
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 2: for Wellington, a Vision Wellington member. Now looks like we've

1564
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 2: taken another wicket in the cricket.

1565
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 27: I'm going to do my best say that your shaves

1566
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:08,719
Speaker 27: e jay as well.

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01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 2: I'm not going to repeat it. Okay, taken by whom

1568
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 2: Phillips hold on and it's just going to go and

1569
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:17,599
Speaker 2: check this fat it's.

1570
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Speaker 27: Anyway, how good?

1571
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 2: What is Phillips? A spin bowler? Yes, there we go,

1572
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:26,559
Speaker 2: So it's the spin bowlers. Look look at us. It's

1573
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 2: like we actually know what we're talking about with a

1574
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 2: cricket seventy two for four. So actually, don't count us

1575
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 2: out of this test too early, because it looks like

1576
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 2: we're doing okay, a little bit of a reality check

1577
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 2: for us on the economy, because look, here's the thing

1578
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 2: I and I need a reality check as well. I'm

1579
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:44,599
Speaker 2: very excited, very very very very excited about the interest

1580
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 2: rate cuts, like I think a lot of people are.

1581
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 2: But and it did cause a bounce in confidence all

1582
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:52,719
Speaker 2: over the show, but consumer confidence has fallen down again.

1583
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:55,799
Speaker 2: This is according to the latest alien zed Roy Morgan's survey.

1584
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 2: It was up on the up for three months in

1585
01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:00,160
Speaker 2: a row, but then this month down four points to

1586
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 2: ninety one point two. Current and future confidence indicas both

1587
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 2: reported toclines. Regional data pointing to deteriorating job security is

1588
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 2: a key factor. A net net fourteen percent rather of

1589
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 2: us expect to be better off this time next year.

1590
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 2: That's down eleven points. Perception of the economy in twelve

1591
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 2: months is down as well, two points. It's not massive,

1592
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 2: it's down to nineteen percent. Outlook for five years fell

1593
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 2: by three points to plus six percent. Oh, by the way,

1594
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 2: it was negative nineteen I should have said before. So

1595
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:32,679
Speaker 2: it seems like what's happened is we all got, like myself,

1596
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 2: a little too excited about the interest rates coming down,

1597
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:36,679
Speaker 2: but then we realized it's going to take a while

1598
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 2: for those interest rates to actually change our budgets. Plus

1599
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 2: we've still got to go through all the job losses

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01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 2: and all that nonsense as a result of Adrian squeezing

1601
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 2: the economy, so the realities, maybe a little bit of

1602
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 2: exuberance and then a little bit of a resettling fourteen

1603
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 2: past six.

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01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 1: Crunching the numbers and getting the results. It's Heather du

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01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 1: for c Ellen with the Business Hours thanks to my

1606
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 1: HR the HR platform on.

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01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 2: Talksp Heather, I'm so happy about the Wellington Group. Praise

1608
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 2: the Lord Jeremy. I couldn't agree with you more. I mean, look,

1609
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 2: if even if all of these if the only thing

1610
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 2: that these people do is stitch together some good ideas

1611
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 2: and take it to the council, that will be doing

1612
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 2: us an enormous favor in terms of trying to save

1613
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 2: the capital, because surely the people around that council table

1614
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 2: will realize that the ideas are coming from two former

1615
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:29,639
Speaker 2: and very successful mayors of the capital city, a guy

1616
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 2: who owns like squillions of dollars worth of commercial property

1617
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:34,639
Speaker 2: and has dragged himself up by his own bootstraps, being

1618
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 2: Sir Bob Jones, knows how to make a dollar, knows

1619
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:38,599
Speaker 2: how to make things work right, and they would look

1620
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:40,640
Speaker 2: at all the other luminaries in that group and be like,

1621
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 2: surely they would think even two of those people are

1622
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 2: smarter than all of us combined. We should listen to them. Amen.

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01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 2: Just hope it works anyway. Eighteen past six now Barry Soper,

1624
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 2: Senior political correspondent, rapping the political week that was for us.

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01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:56,880
Speaker 2: Welcome back, Barry, Hello again, have tho. Okay, So in

1626
01:14:56,920 --> 01:15:00,680
Speaker 2: the end, it's probably damaged Andrew Bailey. It actually it's

1627
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 2: damaged Andrew Bailey, and it's damaged Chris lux In a

1628
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 2: weep at the saga, right because it wasn't becoming of

1629
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 2: Andrew Bailey. And Luxon hasn't handled this particularly well. Yeah,

1630
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 2: but on the scale of things, not that big.

1631
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 14: No, well, on the scale of things, it shouldn't really

1632
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 14: have been very much at all for people that know

1633
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 14: Andrew Bailey. And I've done a lot of talking around

1634
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 14: about this because I know Andrew Bailey relatively well, and

1635
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 14: you know, I've had a beer in the Coral Club

1636
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 14: with him on the old occasion when I used to

1637
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 14: commute between Wellington and Auckland. But the people that know

1638
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 14: him better than I do, so that he sees humor

1639
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:43,680
Speaker 14: in the way other people might not see it, And

1640
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:48,679
Speaker 14: that's not excusing it. That's just I guess the eq equation.

1641
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 2: It means he makes lame jokes.

1642
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:56,799
Speaker 14: He makes jokes that he finds extraordinarily funny and laughs

1643
01:15:56,880 --> 01:16:00,600
Speaker 14: at them, but few others do laugh. And some of

1644
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 14: us can be guilty of that from time to time.

1645
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:06,639
Speaker 14: And you know, I don't think there was any malice

1646
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 14: in this at all, even though his political opponents would

1647
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 14: say it's a disgrace, he should be demoted, removed from cabinet,

1648
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:21,639
Speaker 14: that's ridiculous. I think he made a genuine mistake and

1649
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:25,800
Speaker 14: as he said on God only knows how many occasions

1650
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 14: in the debating chamber that he was mortified that somebody

1651
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 14: had taken offense at what he had said. And you know,

1652
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 14: I think we should say, Okay, move on, he's done

1653
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 14: a mayor collpa. Accept it for what it is.

1654
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, because because the whole, the whole thing that has

1655
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 2: been so far, the opposition has tried to stitch together

1656
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 2: some sort of a narrative and catch him out lying

1657
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 2: or it's just there's nothing else other than this complaint.

1658
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 14: Well, you know, I think it's a bit rich and

1659
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 14: it made me think back. Dare I say it to

1660
01:16:56,920 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 14: the Gindadurn days when they basically didn't address issues. One

1661
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 14: was a sexual predator within the ranks, not an MP,

1662
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 14: but certainly an official that worked for labor and just

1663
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:19,640
Speaker 14: day after day after day refused to become involved in it.

1664
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 14: And that was much more outrageous than what we've seen

1665
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 14: here with Andrew Baileyard.

1666
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 2: Suggest Tory fano rough week for her though.

1667
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:32,519
Speaker 14: Well, if they can't have seen that coming, I don't know.

1668
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 14: Perhaps it's a good indication of what the council is

1669
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:39,880
Speaker 14: all about. The writing was on the wall from the

1670
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 14: time that somebody as senior as Nikola Willis said that

1671
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:48,360
Speaker 14: the Council was shambolic and a government does have the

1672
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 14: power that we saw today or we saw this week.

1673
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 14: I should say that Samin Brown has, and that is

1674
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 14: to a point what is effectively a nark in the

1675
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:02,000
Speaker 14: council meetings to see how they are run if they

1676
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 14: are efficient, and I think it's pretty obvious they particularly

1677
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:09,599
Speaker 14: inefficient when they can't arrive at a long term plan,

1678
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 14: and it would seem that Tory fun now in terms

1679
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:15,800
Speaker 14: of leadership. She can't remember what she said at the

1680
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 14: beginning of an interview towards the end of an interview,

1681
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 14: and that's happened on more than one occasion. I mean,

1682
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 14: this woman is clearly not capable of leadership and she's

1683
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:31,040
Speaker 14: shown that through the Wellington City Council and the long

1684
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 14: suffering ratepayer, and Wellington are the ones that have to

1685
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:37,559
Speaker 14: bear the brunt and also bear the brunt I might say,

1686
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 14: of this political observer or this Crown observer.

1687
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 2: They'll be paying for that.

1688
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:47,000
Speaker 14: And I think there's a Freudian slip that Simeon Brown

1689
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 14: made this week when he said Colm yeah and then

1690
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 14: crowded on, but he was meaning a commissioner. And I

1691
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 14: think you'll find in the end when the NARK reports

1692
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 14: back to the local body Minister, you'll find there'll probably

1693
01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 14: more action.

1694
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 2: Than what we saw this week as in commissioners. Yeah,

1695
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 2: mixed bag for the Greens though, because the Tory Fano

1696
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 2: thing was pretty bad. But then on the other hand

1697
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:12,840
Speaker 2: they managed to get a win and get rid of Darling,

1698
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 2: so that's good for them.

1699
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 14: Yes, absolutely, And you know there was an expectation that

1700
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:22,839
Speaker 14: maybe they would have waited until the Court of Appeal

1701
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:26,880
Speaker 14: process was through about her sacking in the first place

1702
01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:31,160
Speaker 14: by the Greens, but they decided no well, the Speaker

1703
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 14: did that the walker jumping legislation was appropriate in this case,

1704
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:39,639
Speaker 14: and again it was obvious. I mean, when you remove

1705
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 14: an MP from a political party, you upset the proportionality

1706
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 14: of the party. Regardless of whether that MP consistently votes

1707
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 14: for the party that got her into Parliament in the

1708
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:54,639
Speaker 14: first place, it's still they can't rely on her. So

1709
01:19:55,120 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 14: the proportionality is upset, and the walker jumping legislation. Finally,

1710
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:02,920
Speaker 14: he is seen by the Greens as their way out.

1711
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 2: Barry, thanks very much, really appreciate it's very so pre

1712
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 2: senior political correspondent. Wrapping the political week that was Listen

1713
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 2: dropped a catch unfortunately, could have taken Safa as calm

1714
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 2: but dropped. Santa was bowling but dropped its slip and

1715
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:19,599
Speaker 2: it was a tough one to take. But Mitchell will

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01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 2: probably be frustrated by that because geez, I mean, what

1717
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 2: would that That would have been three wickets in the

1718
01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 2: space of what thirty runs. We're doing quite well six

1719
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:29,559
Speaker 2: twenty three.

1720
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Speaker 4: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

1721
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Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Heather duper c Eland and my

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Speaker 1: Hr the HR solution for busy smys on News Talk

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Speaker 1: ZB taken pennt.

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Speaker 2: He's gone eighty three for five. How good, and he's

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Speaker 2: out for eighteen. Okay, baby Roue. Now I have been

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Speaker 2: following the Baby Roux case. I'm sure that you have.

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Speaker 2: I'm very pleased to see the police announcement today they

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Speaker 2: have done a targeted search in a semi rural area

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Speaker 2: north of Wellington along Moonshine Row, which is off State

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Speaker 2: Highway fifty eight, which is twenty minutes by car sorry

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Speaker 2: from the tit to home where Roue lived and was killed.

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Speaker 2: They say they got so it sounds to me like

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Speaker 2: this is where stuff was dumped. Right, It's not at

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Speaker 2: a house. It just seems to be like out in

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Speaker 2: the field somewhere or something like that. So items are

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Speaker 2: properly highly relevant to the homicide investigation. Now, police were

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Speaker 2: looking for a douvet cover, a strap, a hard drive

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Speaker 2: used to record CCTV footage, and the power backup units.

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Speaker 2: So I suspected some of that or all of that.

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Speaker 2: They say the information did not come from the public,

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Speaker 2: which suggests to me that one of the three who

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Speaker 2: were at the house or people who know them have

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Speaker 2: finally knarked and told cops where to find the stuff.

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Speaker 2: That has presumably being dumped. So I'm very pleased to

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Speaker 2: see this. Hopefully it brings them a little bit closer

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Speaker 2: to being able to close this one down and figure

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Speaker 2: out who did what. Really interesting study into what young

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Speaker 2: people want I reckon from the TV and the movies

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Speaker 2: they are watching. So the UCLA has done a study

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Speaker 2: of kids between the age of tens, between the ages

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Speaker 2: of ten and twenty four and the mask on what

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Speaker 2: is it that you want to see on TV when

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Speaker 2: you're watching your shows, you're streaming of your movies or whatever.

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Speaker 2: They say, Less sex, less, fewer shows about rich people,

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Speaker 2: and more fantasy as a genre. So apparently sixty four

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Speaker 2: percent of them, which is a significant majority, do not

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Speaker 2: want to watch shows about They don't want to watch

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Speaker 2: shows with sex in them. They want to watch and

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Speaker 2: romantic relationships, I want any of that nonsense. They want

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Speaker 2: to watch shows about friends and family and acquaintances and

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Speaker 2: stuff like that. Now I don't know why that is,

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Speaker 2: but I have a sneaky suspicion that it's because we're

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Speaker 2: going a little hard on the sex and kind of

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Speaker 2: weird stuff. Like if you've watched Saltburn, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean. That's weird sex right, and Game of Thrones

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Speaker 2: that's weird and kind of gratuitous, so maybe they're just

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Speaker 2: reacting to that. Also, they love and the fantasy, So

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Speaker 2: thirty six percent of them say it's their favorite genre.

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Speaker 2: That's up from sixteen percent last year. And what that

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Speaker 2: says is that they want to escape from life like

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Speaker 2: life is grim at the moment. You always see this historically,

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Speaker 2: when life is grim, people want escapism, and that's what

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Speaker 2: that's about. Yeah, it's fascinating in Headline's next.

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Speaker 4: Crunching the numbers and getting the results.

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Speaker 1: It's Hither duplicy Ellen with the Business Hour thanks to

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Speaker 1: my HR, the HR solution for busy s Emmy's on

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Speaker 1: news talks.

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Speaker 4: It'd be.

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Speaker 2: Like Kenny Gray is going to be a US and

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Speaker 2: ten minutes time Hither. The media going on about Andrew

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Speaker 2: Bailey is like it's winter, Greg, It's so cringe, No

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Speaker 2: wonder they're failing. Is that kind of a look. It's

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Speaker 2: a fair point. I think the problem that the Andrew

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Speaker 2: Bailey story is a fair story.

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Speaker 4: To a point.

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Speaker 2: Right, at some point you go, okay, like how much

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Speaker 2: more are you gonna ring out of old mate stick?

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Speaker 2: And the l sign to his forehead like that's really

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Speaker 2: we're on day wash now seven six whenever, wrapped up.

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Speaker 2: I don't really know anyway, So there is a little

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Speaker 2: bit of there is an argument for some restraint on

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Speaker 2: some things and the proportion, you know, how much how

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Speaker 2: much weight you give things. And I think it's a

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01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 2: fair argument to make that if all you're doing is

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01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:23,519
Speaker 2: serving up trivia in the media all of the time

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Speaker 2: and kind of hammering a story that everybody's kind of

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Speaker 2: moved on from and can see that there's nothing left

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Speaker 2: in it, I'm not sure that it is going to

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Speaker 2: entice people to come back and consume your products are

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Speaker 2: more because it's a bit a little bit boring and repetitive.

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Speaker 2: Twenty three away from seven anyway, Peter Lewis our Asia

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Speaker 2: business corresponds with us right now.

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Speaker 13: He Peter good evening, Heather, Now, what do you.

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Speaker 2: Make of the expansion of bricks Well, it's interesting.

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Speaker 13: I mean the five original countries Brazil, Russia, India, China

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Speaker 13: and South Africa have been joined now by four you members,

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Speaker 13: the Egypt, Theopia, Iran and the UAE. Argentina was also

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Speaker 13: supposed to be a member, but after the it's new

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Speaker 13: prime minister poured them out because it didn't want to

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Speaker 13: be part of the same group as Brazil and Saudi

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Speaker 13: Arabia can't make up its mind one way or the

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Speaker 13: other whether it wants to be in or out. The

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Speaker 13: original idea of bricks the term was first coined by

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Speaker 13: a Goldman Sachs economist about three decades ago, was it

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Speaker 13: was an investment theme. These were five emerging markets that

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Speaker 13: were all quite exciting and growing fast, and it made

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Speaker 13: a nice investment theme. It was never intended to turn

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Speaker 13: into a political grouping in the way that it has

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Speaker 13: now with these countries leaders and finance ministers actually meeting,

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Speaker 13: and one of the issues I think it has is

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Speaker 13: that there's not very much agreement between them there. These

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Speaker 13: are vastly different countries, not all of them get along

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Speaker 13: that well with each other, and they can't particularly agree

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Speaker 13: on the agenda. But the one thing that Russia wanted

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Speaker 13: to promote the meeting is to try and find an

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Speaker 13: alternative payment system that doesn't involve the US dollar. And

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Speaker 13: the reason for that, of course, is that they've been

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Speaker 13: cut out of dollar payments because of the sanctions put

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Speaker 13: on Russia by the West, and that was highlighted by

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Speaker 13: the fact that before the summit, Russia has remind all

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Speaker 13: of the leaders to bring cash because their credit cards

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Speaker 13: won't work in Russia. Now, of course, the problem is

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01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:29,040
Speaker 13: if you want an alternative to the dollar, what is

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Speaker 13: it going to be. There aren't really any other ready

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Speaker 13: alternatives available. The Chinese you are on. President GDP would

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Speaker 13: love that you are to be an alternative currency, but

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Speaker 13: first of all, it's not big enough, and secondly it's

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Speaker 13: not freely convertible into other countries into other currencies, so

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Speaker 13: that rules that out straight away. Vadimir Putin was trying

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Speaker 13: to promote a new global payments system, the alternative to Swift,

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Speaker 13: which is the US dollar payment system. But the problem

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Speaker 13: is gone that not all the countries there want to

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Speaker 13: have an alternative payment system, and particularly if it's not theirs,

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Speaker 13: and they don't want themselves to be cut out of

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Speaker 13: US dollar payments. So really, other than a talking shop,

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Speaker 13: there's not really very far that this Bricks meeting can go.

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Speaker 13: The other thing that they can't agree on, which is

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Speaker 13: the other big issue for debate, is who else to

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Speaker 13: invite to join BRIGS. But again they can't agree on

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Speaker 13: that either, so it's really sort of become an anti

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Speaker 13: West club that the whole point of joining it is

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01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:38,759
Speaker 13: to be anti American. But again they're not every country

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Speaker 13: wants to tread that path either. I mean China talks

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Speaker 13: about a new multipolar world. Well that's code for basically

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01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:50,640
Speaker 13: a world that isn't centered around American dominance and is

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Speaker 13: centered around Chinese dominance. But countries like India, that's the

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Speaker 13: last thing they want. So I don't think anything substantial

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01:27:58,800 --> 01:27:59,680
Speaker 13: is going to come out of this.

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Speaker 2: So tell me give me your thoughts on Antonio Gutira's

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Speaker 2: turning up, because I can't quite decide if it is

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Speaker 2: a bad thing for him to endorse what is essentially

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Speaker 2: a more like a group creating more division in the world,

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Speaker 2: or if it's a smart thing for him to just

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Speaker 2: override those divisions and be there on both sides.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, it's interesting because it does show that Russia isn't

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Speaker 13: as isolated as Europe in particular would like it to be,

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Speaker 13: because you have all these leaders there, you have Antonio

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Speaker 13: Gutari's and other leaders of multilateral and regional organizations there.

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Speaker 13: I think from his perspective, he doesn't see it as

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Speaker 13: endorsing Russia or certainly not its stance on Ukraine, but

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Speaker 13: does seem as supporting what they call now the Global South,

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01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:50,160
Speaker 13: which seems to be this new term for emerging markets.

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Speaker 13: And obviously he wants to promote economic development in the

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Speaker 13: global self and he sees himself as being a big

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Speaker 13: supporter of that, which are I think is why we

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Speaker 13: have his attendance there. But certainly this meeting which is

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Speaker 13: being held in Russia has got a lot of global attention.

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Speaker 2: Peter run me really quickly through the implication of the

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Speaker 2: North Korean troops deploying to Russia, because that feels to

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Speaker 2: me like quite an escalation.

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Speaker 13: It is a huge escalation, and for Europe, the EU,

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Speaker 13: it's a totally unacceptable escalation as well. Now no one's

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Speaker 13: quite sure just what's going on here, if troops have

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Speaker 13: actually been sent to the front line, and how many

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Speaker 13: there's talking maybe up to twelve thousand North Korean troops

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Speaker 13: getting ready to be basically put into Ukraine to try

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Speaker 13: and take back or to try and take more of

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Speaker 13: the Dombas region from Ukraine. So this is a major,

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01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 13: major escalation. It certainly crosses all the lines, and the

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Speaker 13: problem with it, of course is that it involves Asia,

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Speaker 13: so it has implications for the Asia Civic region. It

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Speaker 13: also begs the question what about China. China has always

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Speaker 13: said it's totally against any escalation of the situation in

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Speaker 13: the Ukraine. But China, of course has huge influence over

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Speaker 13: North Korea. In China is its biggest economic sponsor, and

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Speaker 13: without China, North Korea's economy will probably completely collapse. So

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Speaker 13: what is China that's been very quiet on this issue

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Speaker 13: going to say are going to do about it? And

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Speaker 13: of course we're all waiting to see President chi jing

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Speaker 13: Ping's response to that.

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Speaker 2: Fascinating. Peter has always loved talking to you. We'll talk

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Speaker 2: to you in a week's time. Again, that's Peter Lewis

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Speaker 2: Asia Business Correspondent. Got another work, Kat, Who is it?

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Speaker 2: Safarez out for eleven, bowled by sant and a court

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Speaker 2: by handsome will ow' rourke. I mean, that's a collapse,

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Speaker 2: isn't it? Because what are they like? Ninety five for six? Oh,

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Speaker 2: it's just wonderful. It's just do you know what? There

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Speaker 2: are a few things in the world that are better

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01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:57,439
Speaker 2: then beating a team at home, the dominant team who

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01:30:57,479 --> 01:30:59,400
Speaker 2: are playing at home and you come in and they

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Speaker 2: don't think. I don't think you're going to be that

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Speaker 2: good and then smash them around. How good here that

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Speaker 2: the kids are getting their sex scenes from Pornhub. Anything

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Speaker 2: else is not required. That's from Dean, and I suspect

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Speaker 2: that you're right that I need to watch that nonsense

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Speaker 2: anymore on Netflix because they've got it twenty four to

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Speaker 2: seven on the YouTube. Friend of mine the other day

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Speaker 2: she's got weekids as well, and she was telling me,

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize this porn usage in this country spikes

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Speaker 2: at what time of the day, three o'clock. Kids come

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01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:31,719
Speaker 2: home from school straight onto. It isn't that sad, sixteen

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Speaker 2: away from seven.

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Speaker 1: Whether it's macro micro or just playing economics, it's all

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Speaker 1: on the Business Hour with Heather dupic Allen and my HR.

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Speaker 4: The HR solution for busy SMEs newstogs.

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Speaker 2: FB Heather ninety five for six versus New Zealand is

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01:31:47,080 --> 01:31:49,080
Speaker 2: going to turn into four hundred and ninety seven for

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Speaker 2: six in a minute. Look, that's the way to approach this.

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Speaker 2: It's just to have have low expectations because you can

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Speaker 2: never be disappointed, because all too often we are disappointed

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Speaker 2: by the black Caps. But somehow I feel like we're

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Speaker 2: going to through this time thirteen away from Stephen gevn

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Speaker 2: Gray are UK correspondents with us now even in Gevin.

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Speaker 2: What did you make of King Charles addressing the reparations

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Speaker 2: hid on at Choggham.

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Speaker 28: Yes, interesting because this is something that the UK government

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Speaker 28: has been saying it is not on the agenda to

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01:32:20,479 --> 01:32:24,800
Speaker 28: discuss slavery. So Kirstarmer or the Prime Minister has been

1939
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Speaker 28: saying we want to look at the current problems and

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Speaker 28: he lists in their climate change and the rising water

1941
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Speaker 28: levels which affect so many of the members of the Commonwealth.

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Speaker 28: But yeah, apparently a great deal of anger behind the

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Speaker 28: doors of those, particularly from the Caribbean countries within the Commonwealth,

1944
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Speaker 28: who say, look, we really have got to discuss slavery.

1945
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Speaker 28: It must be on the agenda and of course it

1946
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Speaker 28: could be very expensive for the UK, which one report

1947
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Speaker 28: by the University of West Indies suggested that the UK

1948
01:32:57,040 --> 01:33:01,240
Speaker 28: owed more than thirty six trillion New Zealand dollars in

1949
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Speaker 28: reparations for its role in slavery in fourteen Caribbean countries.

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Speaker 28: So it's interesting that the King is in his speech

1951
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Speaker 28: acknowledging that most painful aspects of our past in order

1952
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Speaker 28: to learn lessons and quote right inequalities that endure. But

1953
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Speaker 28: that was pretty much as close as he got. We

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Speaker 28: did not get the apology still, which apparently has to

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Speaker 28: be sanctioned by the government as it is deemed to

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Speaker 28: be an acceptance of wrong.

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Speaker 2: And so, how many of these Commonwealth countries are after

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Speaker 2: the reparations.

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Speaker 28: Well, almost all the Caribbean Commonwealth countries, But some of

1960
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Speaker 28: them are just saying, you know what, it would be

1961
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Speaker 28: just nice to hear the word we apologize. It would

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Speaker 28: just be nice to hear that. Others are saying, we

1963
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Speaker 28: could just do with some help for education, setting up

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Speaker 28: new schools to teach people about slavery, and others are

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Speaker 28: very keen on the whole amount of money. And certainly

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Speaker 28: some of those who are leading the countries or want

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Speaker 28: to be leaders of those countries also very keen on that.

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Speaker 2: And indeed some of the.

1969
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Speaker 28: Commonwealth in Africa are suggesting that there should be reparations

1970
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Speaker 28: as well. So this is a thing that is not

1971
01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:09,280
Speaker 28: going to go away in this two day summer.

1972
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Speaker 2: Kate Busche recording some more music. How do you feel

1973
01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:15,479
Speaker 2: about this? Are you excited or are you terrified of

1974
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:16,240
Speaker 2: that voice again.

1975
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Speaker 28: No, I think it's exciting news. I mean, let's not

1976
01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:23,320
Speaker 28: get ahead of ourselves. So Kate Bush has just done

1977
01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:26,640
Speaker 28: a four minute black and white animated video called The

1978
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:32,519
Speaker 28: Little Shrew. She has basically directed it and written it

1979
01:34:32,840 --> 01:34:37,160
Speaker 28: to raise money for children affected by war. And during

1980
01:34:37,160 --> 01:34:40,400
Speaker 28: an interview she was giving about this animation film, she

1981
01:34:40,520 --> 01:34:43,160
Speaker 28: also said that she is very keen to start working

1982
01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:45,640
Speaker 28: on new music and has lots of ideas that she

1983
01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:48,360
Speaker 28: wants to pursue. And she says, and I quote, I'm

1984
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:50,960
Speaker 28: really looking forward to getting back into that creative space.

1985
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:54,519
Speaker 28: It's been a long time, it sure has. Her last album,

1986
01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:57,479
Speaker 28: studio album, was in twenty eleven. Kate Bush, of course,

1987
01:34:57,560 --> 01:34:59,400
Speaker 28: is one of these sort of marmite figures. I think

1988
01:34:59,400 --> 01:35:01,559
Speaker 28: you love all her I hate her, but she's certainly

1989
01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:05,200
Speaker 28: come up with a new generation of fans in twenty

1990
01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:07,639
Speaker 28: twenty two with that song Running Up the Hill used

1991
01:35:07,680 --> 01:35:09,479
Speaker 28: by the Netflix series Stranger Things.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, do you know what?

1993
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Speaker 2: And I've kind of I am not hating the fact

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Speaker 2: that the kids are discovering music that we can enjoy

1995
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Speaker 2: a second time around, are you No?

1996
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Speaker 28: Although one of my friends who's my age, said his

1997
01:35:22,360 --> 01:35:25,320
Speaker 28: daughter and said Oh there's this woman. She's like seventy,

1998
01:35:25,439 --> 01:35:27,720
Speaker 28: she's never had a hit, she's quite poor, and all

1999
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:30,840
Speaker 28: of a sudden she's number one with her song running

2000
01:35:30,880 --> 01:35:32,880
Speaker 28: up that hell And we said, hang on a minute.

2001
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Speaker 28: First of all, she has had a lot of hit. Secondly,

2002
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Speaker 28: she's not penniless, and third she is not new to

2003
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Speaker 28: music and seventy.

2004
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Speaker 2: Oh that's funny. I really appreciate it, Gavin.

2005
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Speaker 27: Thank you.

2006
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Speaker 2: Gevin gray are UK corresponded, We'll talk to you again

2007
01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:49,720
Speaker 2: on Monday. Sticky finger up in the air, got another wicket,

2008
01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:53,800
Speaker 2: Ravi Eshwin gone for four, one hundred and three for seven.

2009
01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:56,160
Speaker 2: Do you know Boldham? Well, it was caught, wasn't he?

2010
01:35:56,320 --> 01:36:00,800
Speaker 2: Or was he bold? Was he bold? Boys don't even know.

2011
01:36:01,040 --> 01:36:02,479
Speaker 2: I was kind of half watching. I mean I was

2012
01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:05,680
Speaker 2: listening to Gavin AnyWho. It was Satna who bowled the

2013
01:36:05,720 --> 01:36:07,880
Speaker 2: ball that eventually got him out. However, so Satana's got

2014
01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:09,400
Speaker 2: four wickets to his name. How good is that? How

2015
01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:12,360
Speaker 2: good is that? Age away from seven, whether it's.

2016
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Speaker 1: Macro MicroB or just playing economics, it's all on the

2017
01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:19,760
Speaker 1: Business Hour with Heather Duplicy, Allen and my HR, the

2018
01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:21,640
Speaker 1: HR platform for SME.

2019
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Speaker 2: USB, LBW that's how he was out, so that Santana's

2020
01:36:26,439 --> 01:36:28,439
Speaker 2: to claim for himself. Now listen, I meant to tell

2021
01:36:28,439 --> 01:36:30,280
Speaker 2: you this earlier in the week, and it's six away

2022
01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:31,720
Speaker 2: from seven. I meant to tell you this earlier in

2023
01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:33,160
Speaker 2: the week, but I ran out of time. But I

2024
01:36:33,280 --> 01:36:35,200
Speaker 2: need to tell you before the week is out, because

2025
01:36:35,200 --> 01:36:40,559
Speaker 2: this is big news and it's bad news. The roading

2026
01:36:40,600 --> 01:36:43,800
Speaker 2: work on the Brinduwins has killed two frogs. They are

2027
01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:47,160
Speaker 2: not just any frogs. They are very rare frogs, the

2028
01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:51,960
Speaker 2: hotch Stettter frog, which obviously, I mean, you know about

2029
01:36:51,960 --> 01:36:54,160
Speaker 2: the frog, and I know about the hotch Stetter frog.

2030
01:36:54,160 --> 01:36:56,760
Speaker 2: It's a very important frog, very special. I don't I

2031
01:36:56,760 --> 01:36:59,280
Speaker 2: can't remember why the special, but anyway, where they are.

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Speaker 2: So what happened is that before the work on the

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01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:06,960
Speaker 2: brinduuins began, the ecologists went there and they counted the

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Speaker 2: hotch Steta frogs that were living there, and there were

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Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty three hotch Steta frogs. But then

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01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:13,880
Speaker 2: after the road was closed and the work was going

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01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:16,519
Speaker 2: to start and stuff or had started all like whatever,

2038
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Speaker 2: over a couple of a couple of periods, the ecologists

2039
01:37:19,960 --> 01:37:22,080
Speaker 2: went back to save the frogs, and they spent a

2040
01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:24,639
Speaker 2: lot of time saving them frogs. They were therefore three

2041
01:37:24,680 --> 01:37:27,840
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty seven hours in total trying to find them.

2042
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Speaker 2: But they only found one hundred and fifty live ones

2043
01:37:30,400 --> 01:37:33,040
Speaker 2: and they found two dead ones and one is missing.

2044
01:37:33,400 --> 01:37:37,320
Speaker 2: So we've got one fifty live, two dead one mia

2045
01:37:37,600 --> 01:37:39,400
Speaker 2: no one knows. We could probably count that one dead

2046
01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:41,840
Speaker 2: because if it's not with the other frogs, the hotch

2047
01:37:41,840 --> 01:37:44,120
Speaker 2: Steta frog out there by themselves and the Brindurwans is

2048
01:37:44,120 --> 01:37:46,400
Speaker 2: going to be dead. They think that the reason that

2049
01:37:46,439 --> 01:37:50,360
Speaker 2: the frogs dying is because they've built a concrete culvert

2050
01:37:51,200 --> 01:37:54,160
Speaker 2: and concrete if you know your science, which you will

2051
01:37:54,240 --> 01:37:56,920
Speaker 2: because you know the hot Steta frog, it changes the

2052
01:37:56,920 --> 01:38:00,280
Speaker 2: water acidity because of the concrete, and the frogs don't

2053
01:38:00,320 --> 01:38:02,519
Speaker 2: really it doesn't work well for the frogs, and they're

2054
01:38:02,520 --> 01:38:04,200
Speaker 2: not sure that that's what's killed the frogs, but they

2055
01:38:04,240 --> 01:38:06,840
Speaker 2: think that's what's killed the frogs. So we've lost two.

2056
01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:11,280
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, for all of you people driving

2057
01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:13,600
Speaker 2: across the Brindowins, just think about that. When you just

2058
01:38:13,600 --> 01:38:15,479
Speaker 2: think about that, when you're driving across and you ask

2059
01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:19,280
Speaker 2: yourself was it worth it? Because you lost two Frogs.

2060
01:38:18,920 --> 01:38:22,360
Speaker 27: Hence into Sandman by Metallica to players out tonight. As

2061
01:38:22,360 --> 01:38:24,240
Speaker 27: we teased yesterday on the show, that is a big

2062
01:38:24,280 --> 01:38:26,760
Speaker 27: news as well. Metallica is coming to New Zealand. They'll

2063
01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:30,000
Speaker 27: be performing just the one show at Eden Parks. You've

2064
01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:32,639
Speaker 27: got plenty of time to save up for it. Well,

2065
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:34,920
Speaker 27: not to save up. Actually, the tickets go on sale

2066
01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:36,320
Speaker 27: in about five days.

2067
01:38:36,360 --> 01:38:38,120
Speaker 2: What did I say Yesterday's like.

2068
01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:40,200
Speaker 27: Oh, they're just coming in a month, and you were

2069
01:38:40,240 --> 01:38:42,960
Speaker 27: half right. They are coming in November, next November, So

2070
01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:44,400
Speaker 27: there's a whole year and a month.

2071
01:38:44,439 --> 01:38:46,360
Speaker 2: Pay to read the year bit of the end.

2072
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:48,200
Speaker 27: Yeah, but make sure you're reading by the tickets.

2073
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:51,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, four fourth of November, I think is when they go.

2074
01:38:52,040 --> 01:38:52,920
Speaker 2: Is it the fourth of November?

2075
01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:55,200
Speaker 27: I think there are some fancy pre sales, Yes, some

2076
01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:55,599
Speaker 27: pre sales.

2077
01:38:55,600 --> 01:38:59,160
Speaker 2: There's like an Eden Park presale. There's a Live Nation presale.

2078
01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:00,599
Speaker 27: And all ages as well. Hear this, So you can

2079
01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:02,720
Speaker 27: take your long trucks some muffs on them and get

2080
01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:04,320
Speaker 27: them into some you know, some Metallica as well.

2081
01:39:04,360 --> 01:39:08,720
Speaker 2: We good cool, yeah, and also dedicated into Sandman to

2082
01:39:08,760 --> 01:39:11,000
Speaker 2: the two hot step of Frogs. See you next.

2083
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:59,880
Speaker 25: Week Tuesday, Long we can enjoym

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