1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: Despite the fact that Shane Jones said no more money 2 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: for RAL, Cabinet has approved a five minute end old 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: bone for Fucking Papa Holdings limits it to buy RuPay 4 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: Who's Fucker Papa ski Field, So the loan hangs on 5 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: Fucker Papa Holdings getting a concession to run the skifield 6 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: from the Department of Conservation. This could be complete by April, 7 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: ready for the twenty twenty five ski season. So Dave 8 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: Maysie as a man trying to hold it all together 9 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: and joins in Now, Hello. 10 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 2: Dave, Hello Andrew, how are you. 11 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: I'm very good and obviously I'm a former life pass 12 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: owner from nineteen seventy six. Mate, I want this field 13 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: to go, will it? I wanted to work. 14 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 2: No, it'll go. It'll work, it will be successful and 15 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 2: it'll get back to contributing to central North of Island 16 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: economy in particular and the lifestyle of a lot of Kiwis. 17 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: It's fuck Papa Holdings in any way related to the 18 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: old RAL rupey who our plane lips? 19 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 2: No, No, I'm the own me. You're the only one 20 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: an individual that's got an association with RAL from years 21 00:00:58,840 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: gone by. 22 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: The government's giving cash I mean, do you have private 23 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: backers who will step in from April? 24 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 2: You know, there's a group of investors that come out 25 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 2: of the South Island Office, which is a cross Chage 26 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 2: based investment company and myself the investors. If you get. 27 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: Approval from the Department of If you get approval from 28 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: the Department of Conservation, it comes to in April, does 29 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: that give you enough time to be skiing in July. 30 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 2: Well, the receivers will be trading the company up until 31 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 2: that settlement day and they'll be preparing it for winter. 32 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: So yes, we don't have an issue with it. 33 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: Something I've always asked is if I wondered about is 34 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: what's happening to the ski clubs that are on Fuckerpata 35 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: because there's about forty or fifty of them up there. 36 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: I used to belong to Christiania Made of Mine, used 37 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: to be the president of Tahara Nuku. I mean, there's 38 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: a lot of infrastructure up there that is dependent on 39 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: people being able to ski. 40 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's part of the risks for Focker Parper 41 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 2: not trading going towards there's fifty eyed lodges there. They're 42 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: still they're still there. There's still very much as you 43 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 2: will remember. And if the skier is not, there reasonable 44 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: expectation that those lodges will all all those clubs will 45 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 2: fall over and that for the next five to ten years, 46 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 2: and someone's got to pick up the cost of their removing. 47 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, now that's the other thing. When when this 48 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: field falls over or touro fall falls over, the Department 49 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: of Conservation demands that you then have to re establish 50 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: the mountain. You're going to take down the kit another 51 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: and if you had to take down all the ski 52 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: field kit, that's one hundred million dollars to take down 53 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 1: a holiday kit that does nothing. 54 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 2: Why well, it's a World Heritage site that's sincerely strong 55 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: and highly regarded attributes associated with them on or it's 56 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 2: incredibly significant to local ee and you don't lead strained 57 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: their sets in a national park. When road bridges get 58 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: roads get realigned, and a bridge is redundant through a 59 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: national park, it gets fully removed in the land restored, 60 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 2: same principle. 61 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: So expensive and one last question. 62 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 2: The companies were clubs have gone into receivership or liquidation, 63 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: then that that cost falls on dark or the government. 64 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: And finally the skywalker, which is the gondola. Is that 65 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 1: separate to the ski operation? I mean, will that always 66 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: continue because it has a sightseeing thing, it has a 67 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: restaurant at the top. Is that sort of separated from 68 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: the rest of the company and the operation. 69 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: Now that it's one of the assets that will be. 70 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: Buying so which means you can operate all year long. Dave, look, 71 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: I wish you obviously only the best of luck and 72 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: we should know this by April. 73 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 2: For more from earlier edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live 74 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 2: to News Talks. It'd be from five am weekdays, or 75 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 2: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.