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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story.

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Speaker 2: It's Heather duper c Ellen drive with One New Zealand

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Speaker 2: to coverage like no one else, News talks Heavy.

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Speaker 3: Hey, good afternoon, Welcome to the show. Coming up today,

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Speaker 3: Nikola Willis has finally told us what it's going to

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Speaker 3: take to get us to the fuel rationing if we

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Speaker 3: ever get there, So we'll have a chat to her

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Speaker 3: about that. After five Winston Pedis is campaigning on giving

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Speaker 3: millions of dollars to the Christ Church Cathedral for the rebuild.

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Speaker 3: Will get you across that, and we'll have a chat

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Speaker 3: to the new boss of the warehouse about the half

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Speaker 3: year results.

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Speaker 1: Heather duper c Ellen.

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Speaker 3: Now, look, it may not altogether surprise you today to

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Speaker 3: hear that the International Olympic Committee has banned transgender women

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Speaker 3: from competing in female events, because this was so obviously

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Speaker 3: going to happen once Kirsty Coventry was elected the president

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Speaker 3: of the IOC. She was clearly going to do it,

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Speaker 3: given that she had campaigned on doing this. But you

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Speaker 3: may be surprised to realize what an enormous u turn

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Speaker 3: this actually is. I had to go back and have

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Speaker 3: a look at it. At it to actually believe it.

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Speaker 3: Five year years ago, the IOC publicly praised Laurel Hubbard

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Speaker 3: for having quote courage and tenacity as the first transgender

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Speaker 3: athlete to compete at the Olympics, and they said, everyone

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Speaker 3: agrees that trans women are women. So to go from

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Speaker 3: that to now banning Laurel Hubbard from ever being able

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Speaker 3: of five short years, it's actually, when you think about it,

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Speaker 3: quite an extraordinary turnaround. Now, obviously, what's happened is that

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Speaker 3: public opinion has shifted. Five years ago was before the

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Speaker 3: cast report was delivered in the UK on the dangers

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Speaker 3: of puberty blockers and kids. Five years ago was before

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Speaker 3: the bud light controversy. Five years ago was before the

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Speaker 3: Algerian boxer won gold despite questions of whether she actually

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Speaker 3: was female. Five years ago, the prevailing opinion was that

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Speaker 3: inclusion of transgender athletes mattered a lot more, and discussing

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Speaker 3: transgender related subjects was pretty taboo. Today, the prevailing opinion

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Speaker 3: appears to be more about fairness to women and we

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Speaker 3: are openly debating transgender related subjects. Clearly, the IOC, like

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Speaker 3: any global sporting body, is sensitive to politics. I mean,

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Speaker 3: they may say sport is paramount, and we may like

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Speaker 3: to believe that sport's the only thing that they care about,

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Speaker 3: and maybe sports still is the most important thing for them.

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Speaker 3: But they are not deaf to public opinion. They would

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Speaker 3: have to be stupid to be. Now, how you judge

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Speaker 3: the IOC for this is up to you. Really, you

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Speaker 3: could see them as fickle blowing in the wind of

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Speaker 3: to be pragmatic in the times that they live, whatever

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Speaker 1: Women together do for c Ellen.

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Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety two is the text number standard text fees.

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Speaker 3: Supply we'll have a chat to the n ZOC about

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Speaker 3: this after half past five, just before we have a

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Speaker 3: chat to the sports huddle. Now to another subject altogether.

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Speaker 3: It is only three days until Spark turns off its

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Speaker 3: three G. If you have a three G phone, you

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Speaker 3: and that includes one one one calls. This is Tuesday,

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Speaker 3: next week. Spark is urging one with the three G

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Speaker 3: Ashford is Spark's chief brand and Corporate Affairs officer and

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Speaker 3: with us now, Hi Leela.

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Speaker 4: Hey, hey you going very well?

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Speaker 3: Thank you? How many people have you still got a

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Speaker 4: So looking at it yesterday, we've got about zero point

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Speaker 4: one point six percent of our devices. Now that's made

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Speaker 4: up of lots of different things. It's not all individuals

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Speaker 2: So there's still.

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Speaker 4: People on there and that's why we are encouraging them

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Speaker 3: What does that translate into actual numbers the percentage.

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Speaker 4: Well, it differs because there's lots of different connections on there,

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Speaker 3: Be thousands though wouldn't it.

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Speaker 4: It would be in the thousands.

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Speaker 4: We've done a lot of research into it. We've been

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Speaker 4: so we've been testing awareness. Awareness is really really high,

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Speaker 4: But what customers tell us is there's a large proportion

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Speaker 3: But we do expect if my Kendle Leila has run

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Speaker 4: So it will be I'm not sure. I'm not exactly

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Speaker 4: We've also been doing that for well over a year now.

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Speaker 3: So if the knowledge out there, like the awareness is

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Speaker 3: as high as you say it is, does this mean

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Speaker 3: we're not going to have the same problem as in Australia.

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Speaker 3: Because in Australia, as you well know, when the three

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Speaker 4: Look, we know technology change isn't fun for anyone, and

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Speaker 4: we suspect despite every best intention. I mean, we've sent

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Speaker 3: Okay, now what is this business with you turning off

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Speaker 3: three hundred four G phones Because four G is not

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Speaker 3: the network you're shutting down, So why are you shutting

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Speaker 4: So this is a really unique situation where there's this

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Speaker 4: So basically, once three G shuts down, they'll be able

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Speaker 4: they'll be using the four G network as normal. But

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Speaker 4: then if they go to call Triple one, their device

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Speaker 4: I need to go and figure out what's going on,

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Speaker 4: and then we will get them onto the right phone.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Leela, listen, thanks very much for talking us through it,

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Speaker 3: and good luck for next Tuesday, and I look forward

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Speaker 3: to all the Winges who come out and definitely talk

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Speaker 3: to stuff in the Herald about it. Leelah Ashford, Spark,

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Speaker 3: Chief Branding Corporate Affairs Officer. By the way, how cool

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Speaker 3: is this? There is a KEYWI Mind worker who's going

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Speaker 3: to be at the bell ringing ceremony at the New

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Speaker 3: York Stock Exchange for the Oceania Gold next month. This

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Speaker 3: chap's name is Quentin Johnston. He's from Warrington, which is

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Speaker 3: just north of Dunedin. Been working at mccray's Mind for

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Speaker 3: twenty eight years. The plant man, you're there, He's going

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Speaker 3: with the chief executive to New York to ring the bell.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what that would be one of You

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Speaker 3: know that there are those things in life that would

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Speaker 3: the things that would be really cool to do to

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Speaker 3: be there for the bell ringing quarter.

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Speaker 3: Heather, are you going to talk about Hipkins? Is the

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Speaker 3: poper Catholic musk? Yes, just hang on a tick. Just

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Speaker 3: Jason Pine weekend sport hosters. So that's hello, Piney.

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Speaker 6: Priorities, mus priorities who.

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Speaker 3: First we deal with the transgender issue, then we will

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Speaker 3: deal with hipkins. Not in orders of importance necessarily, Piney.

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Speaker 3: Talk to me about the Warriors of you in a

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Speaker 3: win tonight?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think so. I think they'll be okay, won't they.

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Speaker 7: I mean, if they play anything close to what they've

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Speaker 7: done the last three games, surely. I mean they're on

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Speaker 7: a bit of a roll, aren't they. I know it's early,

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Speaker 7: but the West Tigers, look, I think they present as

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Speaker 7: who were also unbeaten. Luke Metcalfe back in the team.

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Speaker 7: That's earlier than everybody expected. Momentum. I mean, we've had

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Speaker 7: surprise and I don't think it'll add any sense of

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Speaker 7: anything really to the game tonight. I just think They're

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Speaker 3: Now, Piney, I'm going to illustrate for you immediately why

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Speaker 3: I'm not doing your show because I don't know what

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about. But what I noticed in the last

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Speaker 3: when their star players were out, they overperformed. And the

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Speaker 3: minute the star players came back, they almost went a

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Speaker 3: bit funny again. And I'm just I'm a little bit

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Speaker 7: You could easily do my show with incisive analysis like that.

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Speaker 3: Was Jesus a low bar, then lowbar to your show

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Speaker 3: if that's all you need me.

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Speaker 6: No, it's a good but it's a good observation.

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Speaker 1: And and you're right.

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Speaker 7: When a player comes back in and they're a star,

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Speaker 7: and Luke Metcalf's a star, let's not get away from

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Speaker 7: that fact. He's a terrific player. Yeah, I guess there

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Speaker 3: Always enjoy your football Tonight. Jason Pine and Sports Talk

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Speaker 2: Where's one New Zealand coverage? Like no one else news talks,

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Speaker 3: Chris Hipkins, Heather, do you think Chris Hipkins has anything

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Speaker 3: to answer for here? He's coming across as quite arrogant, Heather.

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Speaker 3: else have labor got to replace him?

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Speaker 1: It's the world wires on news Talks. He'd be drive.

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump has again extended the deadline for a run

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Speaker 1: I just want to get back to work as quick

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Speaker 12: Hell is a nice little least to.

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Speaker 13: Ease you traumatic at home.

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Speaker 2: International correspondence with ends an eye Insurance peace of mind

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Speaker 1: Business with US.

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Speaker 3: Now is Dan Mittinson now US correspondent. Hi Dan, Hello Heather,

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Speaker 3: Happy birthday to you mate.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you very much, but.

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Speaker 3: I see what you're doing. So you're doing you're double

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Speaker 5: I am I would be.

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Speaker 3: True if I had that option. Now, what do you

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Speaker 5: I think it's just another chance for him to hope

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Speaker 5: The market's been tanking, he says. The talks aren't going

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Speaker 5: big doubt about Washington's willingness to negotiate. So who do

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, neither of them are known to be,

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Speaker 5: fifteen point plan earlier in the week, when they just said,

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Speaker 5: oh no, we're not ready to do this, or we're

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Speaker 5: not going to do this. I'm sure that the US

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Speaker 5: is now saying, okay, here's plan B. What if we

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Speaker 5: were to do this, this and this, and you know,

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Speaker 5: with oil prices shooting up over here right now, gasoline

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Speaker 5: prices are topping six dollars on the West Coast, I mean,

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Speaker 5: there's concern that this is going to drag on and

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Speaker 5: this is affecting. This is more than just headlines on

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Speaker 5: the news and something that's happening thousands of mile So wait,

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Speaker 5: this is this is impacting me, This is impacting everybody

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Speaker 5: else too, with our in our wallets.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, quite right, Okay, So what is causing all these

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Speaker 3: problems that you guys have got at the.

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Speaker 5: Airports, Well, it's it's what's going on as the TSAs

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Speaker 5: and not paying them, although President has come out today

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Speaker 5: and said, you know what, we are going to pay

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Speaker 5: the Transportation Security Administration people that we're getting the longest

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Speaker 5: wait times ever in the twenty fourth history. There wait

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Speaker 5: times at airports are exceeding four hours. We spoke with

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Speaker 5: one person earlier, I believe it was today, that had

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Speaker 5: arrived at three point thirty in the morning, her flight

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Speaker 5: left at six thirty. She didn't get through customs till

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Speaker 5: seven thirty, and she said that people were there before

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Speaker 5: her that didn't have a flight till eleven thirty that morning.

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Speaker 5: So some people are showing up, you know, eight nine,

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Speaker 5: ten hours ahead of time. And there's been a five

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Speaker 5: hundred percent increase in assaults against these officers. And I

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Speaker 5: got to tell you howther they don't make much. They

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Speaker 5: make eighteen maybe twenty bucks an hour, based on some

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Speaker 5: of the job ads that I've seen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, jeez, that's a bit rough. Tell me about the

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Speaker 3: fact tex what's going on here?

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Speaker 5: Oh boy? This is Southwest Airlines, which is probably the

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Speaker 5: most popular domestic airline that we have over here, for

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Speaker 5: you know, discounts. They are singling out people that are

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Speaker 5: overweight and they are forcing them to buy another seat

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Speaker 5: to accommodate that, something that they've never had to do before.

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Speaker 5: There are a number of videos online for passengers at

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Speaker 5: customers who are who are showing this right now. There's

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Speaker 5: been a number of investigations into this, and what the

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Speaker 5: airline is seeing is that customers who encroach upon the

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Speaker 5: neighboring seats will have to buy the number of seats needed.

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Speaker 5: And the arm rest is considered to be the definitive boundary,

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Speaker 5: and they said, you know, we're going to take a

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Speaker 5: look at this. It's in our policy. It states this.

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Speaker 5: And there may be somebody that comes along a flight,

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Speaker 5: attenant or the captain, and it will be their discretion

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Speaker 5: to say, you know what, you're going to have to

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Speaker 5: buy another seat or you can't fly with us.

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Speaker 3: I love to be I'd love to be the person

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Speaker 3: who has to go and deliver that bad news.

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Speaker 1: Oh co.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, Dan, and happy birthday for tomorrow and

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Speaker 3: enjoy it. Dan Mitchinson, a US correspondent eighteen away from.

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Speaker 1: Five ever duper sel.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So this is one of the consequences of panic

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Speaker 3: buying fuel. They are now farms in this country that

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Speaker 3: have run out of diesel. There's a family called the

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Speaker 3: Kirk family. They run a farm in Ruakawa in Central

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Speaker 3: Hawk's Bay. Completely run out, well completely, I think it's

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Speaker 3: completely run out of fuel. Usually it gets its fuel

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Speaker 3: delivered once a month, but the fuel that was due

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Speaker 3: to a rine ten days ago didn't arrive ten days

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Speaker 3: ago and still hasn't arrived. And so they've run out

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Speaker 3: of diesel last week, and they ran out of unleaded

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Speaker 3: this week, and this is a problem because they need

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Speaker 3: to run the reticulated They need the fuel to run

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Speaker 3: the reticulated drinking water system for the livestock. What's happened

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Speaker 3: is that they get their fuel from a rural fuel

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Speaker 3: distributed called fern Energy. Fern Energy is allocating who it

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Speaker 3: gives its fuel to first because it is on a

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Speaker 3: fuel allocation limit from its importers. And the reason for

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Speaker 3: this is because of what they call artificial demand. Now,

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Speaker 3: artificial demand is basically panic buying, panic buying, stockpiling of

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Speaker 3: fuel as the prices go up and so on, so

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Speaker 3: every time, So just remember this when you hear that

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Speaker 3: our gas stations run out of fuel, or that truckes

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Speaker 3: can't get fuel, or that farms are running out of fuel,

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Speaker 3: or that there's allocation of fuel, it's not because there

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Speaker 3: is a shortage of fuel in this country. It's because

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Speaker 3: we are creating a shortage of fuel by buying as

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Speaker 3: much as we are. Anyway, Nicola Willis, as I said,

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Speaker 3: is going to be with us just after five, so

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Speaker 3: we'll have a chat to her about that seventeen away

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Speaker 3: from five six.

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Speaker 2: With Centric Credit, check your customers and get payment certainty, right.

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Speaker 3: Barry Soper senior political correspondents with us at fourteen away

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Speaker 3: from five High Barry.

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Speaker 10: Good afternoon, HEATHERA, So did.

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Speaker 3: You buy Chippy's excuse?

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm not sure what his excuses really, I can

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Speaker 6: explain it to you.

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Speaker 3: His excuse. His excuse was.

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Speaker 10: I'm being cynical.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, carry on where you go. Oh, so his

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Speaker 3: excuse was do you remember when he said that he

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Speaker 3: didn't know, he didn't never got the information, that he

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Speaker 3: wasn't supposed to force kids under the age of eighteen

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Speaker 3: to get the JAB. Now he's saying, because now we

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Speaker 3: know he did get that information because he had a

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Speaker 3: cabinet paper and his name bearing that information. Now he's saying, oh, no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: he did get that information, but he got it too late.

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Speaker 14: He got it too late, and he forgot about.

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Speaker 3: It, and he forgot about it and yeah. And then

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Speaker 3: Ginny was saying on on Herold now this morning, and

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Speaker 3: Ashley changed him his mind as well and gave a

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Speaker 3: different verbal briefing, Well, okay, what.

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Speaker 14: I'm cynical about it is that he has told so

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Speaker 14: many stories about this particular that, of course it is

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Speaker 14: hard to believe him.

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Speaker 10: And when you appreciate that.

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Speaker 14: He was the COVID minister preaching from the pulpit of

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Speaker 14: truth in the beehive every day during the COVID outbreak.

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Speaker 10: You know, I suppose he could.

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Speaker 14: Forget a few things, but this was something that was

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Speaker 14: of course, of course covered in the Royal Commission of

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Speaker 14: Inquiry into the COVID response. The advice, they said, though,

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Speaker 14: was never delivered to ministers, but a cabinet paper in

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Speaker 14: his Hipkin's name shows that indeed it was delivered. Now

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Speaker 14: Winston Peters and Health Minister Simeon Brown, they've questioned Hipkins

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Speaker 14: about the why didn't he make the information public? Well,

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Speaker 14: ain't nothing to see here, seems to be Hipkins's explanation

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Speaker 14: over why there wasn't a public statement showing the dangers

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Speaker 14: of a second JAB. It was everyone else's fault.

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Speaker 1: But has when they were being removed.

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Speaker 13: It was reference to cabinet paper, but we certainly weren't

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Speaker 13: made aware of it at the time. Didn't recall the

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Speaker 13: existence of the cabinet paper in question, And had I

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Speaker 13: done so, I might have added an extra word too

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Speaker 13: to what I said earlier, which was at the time

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Speaker 13: the decisions were being made. I mean, we tried to

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Speaker 13: proactively release all of those cabinet papers. Now, I wasn't

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Speaker 13: manually checking the website every day to make sure that

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Speaker 13: they were going up. But when we made those decisions,

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Speaker 13: when the Cabinet and the ministers said yes, this cabinet

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Speaker 13: paper should be proactively released, was absolutely my expectation that

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Speaker 13: it would be nothing.

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Speaker 14: Now, that was Argent Schultz out of Hogan's Yeah.

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Speaker 3: We know, Barry, don't need to explain your joke.

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Speaker 14: Well, no, no, maybe some listeners are too young to

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Speaker 14: remember that ever, But no, it's extraordinary just this issue

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Speaker 14: has become such a big thing because it all gets

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Speaker 14: down to the credibility. Now, this man wants to be

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Speaker 14: Prime minister later this year, and you know he's had

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Speaker 14: a few I guess a few blips on his way

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Speaker 14: to the beehive on that one. Not just on this one,

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Speaker 14: but on other matters as well.

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Speaker 10: As we know.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you've had a lovely and very pleasant afternoon sitting

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Speaker 3: at you can shortling away to Donald Trump. So what

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Speaker 3: is it that you and.

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Speaker 14: Joy and you've got to say what a wonderful man

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Speaker 14: Donald Trump is. He gives us a laugh a minute. Well,

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Speaker 14: if it wasn't so serious, I'd be laughing. But the

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Speaker 14: presidential propaganda flows with Trump's most extravagant claim yet that

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Speaker 14: he was offered the job of becoming run this new

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Speaker 14: spiritual leader. That's certainly news to the Iranians, but at

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Speaker 14: least it does seem some sort of dialogue, as you

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Speaker 14: mentioned earlier, is taking place now. He could become a

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Speaker 14: very busy man when you think about it, Heather running Gaza,

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Speaker 14: turning it into.

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Speaker 10: The Riviera of the Middle East.

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Speaker 14: Room of that offer, then there's him running the harmers straight.

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Speaker 14: Another offer he's made. And at least he suggested his

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Speaker 14: Secretary of State Marco Rubio, could look after Cuba once

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Speaker 14: he's conquered that, he says shortly so on the Supreme

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Speaker 14: Leader's job, though the President tells us he said thanks,

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Speaker 14: but no thanks.

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Speaker 1: Here he is.

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Speaker 9: There's never been ahead of a country that wanted that

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Speaker 9: job less than being the head of Iran.

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Speaker 1: I don't want it.

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Speaker 9: We'll listen to some of the things they say. We

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Speaker 9: aim very clearly. They say, I don't want it. Would

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Speaker 9: like to make you the next Supreme Leader, No, thank you,

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Speaker 9: I don't want it. They were winning so big, nobody's

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Speaker 9: ever seen anything like we're doing in the Middle East

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Speaker 9: with Iran, and they are negotiating, by the way, and

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Speaker 9: they want to make it deal so badly, but they're

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Speaker 9: afraid to say it because they figure.

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Speaker 1: They'll be killed by their own people. They're also afraid

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Speaker 1: they'll be killed by us.

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Speaker 9: But with your help this November will defeat the radical

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Speaker 9: left Democrats and we'll win a midterm victory like our

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Speaker 9: country has never seen. For whatever reason, I don't know

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Speaker 9: what it is, but a president who wins Republican or

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Speaker 9: Democrat almost always as poorly in the midterms. Nobody knows why,

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Speaker 9: even if it's a successful presidency. And there are those

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Speaker 9: that say this has been the first I mean really

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Speaker 9: the best first year ever for a president, and I

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Speaker 9: agree with them, I must argue.

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Speaker 14: So of course he was preaching to the converted there.

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Speaker 14: It was the Republican followers he's got. But did you

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Speaker 14: hear him contradicting himself on the mid term saying that,

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Speaker 14: you know, a president normally does.

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Speaker 10: Poorly even though they're doing well.

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Speaker 14: But then he says, in the first breath, says, no,

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Speaker 14: but I'm going to prove that a president can do

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Speaker 14: well as well as you've ever seen in the history

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Speaker 14: of the country before. Well, you know, a total contradiction.

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Speaker 1: Berry.

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Speaker 3: That's I don't know why you guys get so hung

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Speaker 3: up on this. It's clear what he's doing. He's trying

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Speaker 3: to look confident ahead of the midterms while at the same.

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Speaker 10: He's trying to disguise his dementia.

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Speaker 3: While while at the same time preparing his voters for

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Speaker 3: the obvious drubbing he's going to get. It's just political management.

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Speaker 3: One I won well, carry on.

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Speaker 14: I wish you would deliver it in a much more

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Speaker 14: mature way. I can just imagine people in the United States,

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Speaker 14: and I'll talk to a few of them marstons. Trump

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Speaker 14: was reelected. They cringe now, and they voted for him,

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Speaker 14: and his popularity rating is now the.

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Speaker 10: Most it's ever been.

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Speaker 6: So you know, at least some people in the United

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Speaker 6: States have a few clues.

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Speaker 14: But not this one, I'm afraid.

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Speaker 3: Okay, thanks very much, Marry. I can't wait to talk

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Speaker 3: to you when you're rat the political week at quarter

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Speaker 3: past six seven away from five.

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Speaker 2: The headlines and the hard questions, it's the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 15: To twelve to seventeen year old's reader myocaditis, what we

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Speaker 15: do know to be true? Is Hipkins did get the advice.

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Speaker 15: Simeon Brown's the Health Minister and he's with us.

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Speaker 16: It's very clear that Chris Hopkins knew about these concerns.

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Speaker 16: He was provided advice in late December twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 16: And when they were provided the advice, they didn't ask

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Speaker 16: any questions or do anything about it. And the reality

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Speaker 16: is he came on your show said he didn't know.

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Speaker 16: He's got questions he needs to answer, so.

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Speaker 15: He was hiding. But the COVID inquiry missed. The COVID

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Speaker 15: inquiry says they claim they didn't see it, didn't know,

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Speaker 15: and they accepted that.

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Speaker 16: The COVID inquiry found that the Ministry of Health didn't

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Speaker 16: provide the information clearly enough, and I think that's an

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Speaker 16: absolute finding.

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Speaker 15: Back Monday from six am, The Mike asking Breakfast with

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Speaker 15: rain Drivers fort SV News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: Do you realize that this year is the twenty fourth

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Speaker 3: anniversary of the Lord of the Rings? Which who cares? Really?

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Speaker 3: Who cares? But this is fascinating tourism. New Zealand reckons

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Speaker 3: that to this day, one in five visitors who come

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Speaker 3: from the US reckon that they're coming to New Zealand

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Speaker 3: because of the Lord of the Rings. That is their

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Speaker 3: main reason for coming here, which who cares? That's who cares.

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Speaker 3: That's so you actually got a good, good point. Thank

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Speaker 3: you very thanks for paying attention as to me, which

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Speaker 3: means that this is going to be a big year.

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Speaker 3: It should be a big year from the US anyway.

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Speaker 3: Bruce Hopkins was it was what was his name? Was

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Speaker 3: he gambling or something like that? It's one of that there.

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Speaker 17: I'm not one of the twenty percent.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, he was in the Lord of the Rings is

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Speaker 3: one of the elves back in the day twenty five

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Speaker 3: years ago. He's going to be with us at about

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Speaker 3: twenty minutes and talk us through how big he's expecting

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Speaker 3: it to be. I thought this was quite interesting from

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Speaker 3: Chris Bishop. So Chris Bishop is at the Infrastructure sector conference, right,

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Speaker 3: and he tells them that he doesn't think that we

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Speaker 3: understand yet as a public how bad the fuel crisis

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Speaker 3: is going to get. Now, No, don't freak out because

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to do a Matthew houton on you.

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Speaker 3: No one needs that level of psycho But this is

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Speaker 3: what he says, this is a quote right, says he

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Speaker 3: doesn't think the public fully comprehends how bad the fuel

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Speaker 3: crisis might get. Quote, it's a scary prospect and I'm

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Speaker 3: not one hundred percent sure the public have quite worked

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Speaker 3: it out yet. Now I quite like Nicholaulas to explain

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Speaker 3: what Bishop means by that? What is he freaked out

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Speaker 3: about that he thinks we haven't got sufficiently freaked out about.

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Speaker 3: She's with us. Next chat to New.

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Speaker 2: I guess the only drive show you can trust trust

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Speaker 2: to ask the questions, get the answers, find a fact

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Speaker 2: and give the analysis.

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Speaker 1: Here the duplicy on and Drive with.

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Speaker 2: One New Zealand and the power of satellite mobile news

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Speaker 2: Talk ZV.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon. The government has laid out at what point

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Speaker 3: they would consider introducing measures like fuel rationing. There are

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Speaker 3: six criteria that they would consider, and that includes things

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Speaker 3: like fuel dipping below our minimum storage obligations and refineries

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Speaker 3: that supply us introducing their own restrictions. Finance Minister Nikola

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Speaker 3: Willis is with us right now, Hi, Nicola, Are we

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Speaker 3: anywhere close to going to level two?

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Speaker 18: No?

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Speaker 19: Not right now. There are six assessment criteria. One of

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Speaker 19: them would have to change for us to go into

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Speaker 19: an assessment. So first we'd let you know, right one

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Speaker 19: of the criteria have been triggered, we're going to do

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Speaker 19: an assessment. Then they'd be a gap while we went

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Speaker 19: in consulted with industry and talked to them. Then we'd

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Speaker 19: make the assessment and we may or may not go

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Speaker 19: into level two at that point. So if we're going

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Speaker 19: to make an assessment, we'd let you know.

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Speaker 3: At this point, looking at everything that you can assess,

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Speaker 3: are you seeing anything that has given you concern? Are

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Speaker 3: our refinery still giving us fuel, Are there any ships

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Speaker 3: being diverted, are we sure of are we going to

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Speaker 3: run out of diesel in three weeks? Anything like that

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Speaker 3: to worry about.

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Speaker 19: Well, what the fuel companies are telling us now is

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Speaker 19: we're good. We've got those seven weeks. They've got orders

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Speaker 19: still being filled through to May, and we know that

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Speaker 19: the ships that are on the water are making their

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Speaker 19: way safely here. But we're in a state of readiness

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Speaker 19: because what we're anticipating could happen in the future. It

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Speaker 19: might not, but happen is that a fuel company could

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Speaker 19: have difficulty filling a number of orders. They, of course,

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Speaker 19: in the first instance, would then try and get fuel

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Speaker 19: from somewhere else in the world, But if there were

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Speaker 19: delays or problems with that, we would want to know

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Speaker 19: well in advance, so that New Zealand was prepared.

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Speaker 3: Why would they have that trouble.

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Speaker 19: Well, if they, for example, had an order quickly canceled

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Speaker 19: out of a country in Southeast Asia with someone using

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Speaker 19: force masure saying actually, we just literally can't give you

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Speaker 19: the fuel, and then they went to source it from

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Speaker 19: America or South America or somewhere else in the world,

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Speaker 19: that would take longer to get to New Zealand than

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Speaker 19: their normal order would, so that could create a delay.

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Speaker 19: We would want at that point to know that we

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Speaker 19: had sufficient fuel in the country. Good news is we

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Speaker 19: have minimums stockholding obligations in New Zealand, which means that

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Speaker 19: all fuel companies are required to have a safety buffer

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Speaker 19: a reserve of fuel in the country. And so we

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Speaker 19: haven't had any notification that anyone's at any risk of

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Speaker 19: breaking those minimum stockholding obligations, and we would expect to

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Speaker 19: get a very good warning if that was going to

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Speaker 19: be the case.

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Speaker 3: Okay, why is it that the public dashboards like endsed

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Speaker 3: Oil Watch and the Taxpayers Union Fuel Clock reckon that

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Speaker 3: we have less diesel in the country in particular than

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Speaker 3: what MB says we've got.

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Speaker 19: Well, there was some confusion with some of the information

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Speaker 19: that MB released during the week, and I acknowledged that

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Speaker 19: today because what they've been doing is releasing two types

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Speaker 19: of information. Fuel that's in the country and then fuel

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Speaker 19: that's on the water, and so people are reading on

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Speaker 19: the water and thinking, gosh, that could be days and

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Speaker 19: days away. So what I did today was I updated

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Speaker 19: and said, actually a big proportion of that is actually

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Speaker 19: just literally ships discharging at port, so literally putting the

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Speaker 19: diesel in at port, or is going from port to

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Speaker 19: port in New Zealand, or is less than a day's

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Speaker 19: shipping away because it's in our sovereign water. So I

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Speaker 19: gave a breakdown of that. We've got eighteen point one

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Speaker 19: days of diesel in the country, fifth day, ze point

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Speaker 19: eight days of diesel on the water in our sovereign waters,

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Speaker 19: and twelve and a half days of diesel and ships

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Speaker 19: that's on its way to New Zealand but not yet

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Speaker 19: in our sovereign waters. So that pig for much clearer picture.

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Speaker 3: Okay. Now, Chris Bership was at an infrastructure summit and

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Speaker 3: made the following comment. He said, read the fuel crisis.

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Speaker 3: It's a scary prospect what may happen, and I'm not

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Speaker 3: one hundred percent sure the public have quite worked it

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Speaker 3: out yet. What does he mean by that?

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Speaker 19: I well, I wouldn't want to put words in Chris

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Speaker 19: Bishop's mouth, but I think what he's anticipating is if

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Speaker 19: we ever had to move to a Phase three or

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Speaker 19: four as we outline today, that wouldn't be great for

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Speaker 19: the New Zealand economy. It wouldn't be great for anyone

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Speaker 19: for jobs or livelihoods, which is why we're working so

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Speaker 19: hard now to try and prevent that ever being possible.

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Speaker 19: But we also recognize these are events outside our control,

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Speaker 19: and we're really conscious that the price spike that you

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Speaker 19: experiencing right now could persist for some time and that's

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Speaker 19: going to be corrosive for people's cost of living, for

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Speaker 19: our economy, and that really bites and we understand that.

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Speaker 19: But these are international events that do remain outside our control.

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Speaker 3: Do you reckon we haven't worked it out? Because I'm

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Speaker 3: of the view that we have worked it out, and

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Speaker 3: we're just keeping calm about it, and we're reading columns

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Speaker 3: like Matthew Houston's and going and basically choosing not to

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Speaker 3: be freaked out. Isn't that what we're doing.

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Speaker 19: I hope that New Zealanders are choosing to be calm

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Speaker 19: about it. That's been my experience with many people absorbing

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Speaker 19: the information, understanding what's happening, and I hope that we

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Speaker 19: continue to see that because I think the government's role

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Speaker 19: here is to make sure we're doing everything that we

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Speaker 19: can to secure fuel supplies and have a plan if

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Speaker 19: they're disrupted, and I think people understand that events happening

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Speaker 19: in the Middle East are having a big impact here

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Speaker 19: at home and we're doing everything we can.

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Speaker 3: Call Nichola, thank you very much for your time, Nichola

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Speaker 3: Willis's finance minister. Actually tell me if you've worked it

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Speaker 3: out yet. Have you worked out how bad this could

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Speaker 3: be in your chuth to just be calm about it,

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Speaker 3: or have you just not even thought about it all?

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Speaker 3: Nine two nine two. I'm quite interested to find out.

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Speaker 3: Five twelve.

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Speaker 1: Heather dupusy Ellen New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: First is promising fifteen million dollars in taxpayer funding for

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Speaker 3: the christ Church Cathedral rebuild, but only if they are

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Speaker 3: re elected. Mark Stewart is a member of the christ

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Speaker 3: Church Cathedral Rebuild board and is with us high mark. Hi,

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Speaker 3: hear that it's fifteen I'm well, thank you, it's fifteen

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Speaker 3: million enough. Or does it still leave you with the

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Speaker 3: short fall?

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Speaker 11: No, we've still got a short fall. We're probably in

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Speaker 11: the twenty five to thirty million dollars shortfall range at

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Speaker 11: the moment, which is getting closer to allowing us to

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Speaker 11: restart the reconstruction. But nonetheless, we've got conversations still going

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Speaker 11: with the christ Church City Council at present, and in

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Speaker 11: fact they've been out for public consultation recently about public

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Speaker 11: funding for heritage buildings across the city. So, in fact,

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Speaker 11: submissions closed tonight and it was very welcome to have

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Speaker 11: mister Peters at the today making the announcement that he made.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so how much do you expect to get from

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Speaker 3: the city.

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Speaker 11: Council, Well, that's up to them to determine. I guess

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Speaker 11: at the end of the day, we have indicated to

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Speaker 11: them what our shortfalls look like. We certainly got commitments

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Speaker 11: from the church in terms of what they are capable

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Speaker 11: of putting up to continue the rent statement. And I'm

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Speaker 11: pretty confident about the fundraising possibilities in the philanthropic community.

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Speaker 11: So effectively, we have to get back to the Council

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Speaker 11: in terms of them making some commitment or not to

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Speaker 11: the reinstatement of this building.

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Speaker 3: So do you think that you're going to be able

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Speaker 3: to get to to forty five million dollars that you

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Speaker 3: need to get the front bit built?

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Speaker 11: Well, I'm hoping. So, I mean, that's our plan, and

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Speaker 11: we've got a robust plan to open this cathedral. What

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Speaker 11: we're trying to do is ring the bells for the

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Speaker 11: twentieth earthquake of commemorations if you like, twenty thirty one,

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Speaker 11: and that's also one hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the

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Speaker 11: opening of the cathedral. So that's our intention, and we're

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Speaker 11: getting closer by the moment today's announcement. If that comes

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Speaker 11: to fruition, If Misiss Peters is part of a government

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Speaker 11: plus November seventh, which I'm sure that he probably will

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Speaker 11: looking at it today, then then so much closer to

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Speaker 11: getting there.

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Speaker 14: Mark.

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Speaker 3: Just remind me, even if you get all of this

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Speaker 3: money and you start the rebuild for this bit, how

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Speaker 3: much are you short for the whole thing?

876
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 11: We're in the ninety to ninety five million dollars, right,

877
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 11: that's what it costs to reopen this cathedral. That's come

878
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 11: down significantly from obviously where we were a year or

879
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 11: so ago considering how to stage this opening. But ninety

880
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 11: five million dollars gives us a functioning nave, gives us

881
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 11: a new tower, the bells ringing in it, the rose window,

882
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,879
Speaker 11: the western facade looking at the square, and more importantly, actually, Heather,

883
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 11: it opens up the square for the future of Christ Dutch.

884
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 11: Right now it's a wasteland and it will stay.

885
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 3: Hey, thank you very much, really appreciate your time. Mark

886
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 3: this marks to you at CCRL board member. By the way,

887
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,959
Speaker 3: at least the stadium has been open there the old

888
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 3: opening ceremony today that Dan Carter was there, took a

889
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 3: kick from the twenty two. Didn't even look like he's

890
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,919
Speaker 3: still got it. Christ Church's mayor was there. He said,

891
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 3: isn't this grouse better than slice bread? Sixteen past five? Listen?

892
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 3: If you want a luxurious EV and frankly, electric vehicles

893
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 3: make a lot of sense at the moment, don't they.

894
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 3: But if you want an EV and you want it

895
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 3: to be luxurious, you cannot go past the BYDC Lion eight.

896
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 3: You need to see this one. This is the big car.

897
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 3: This is their big car, and this is a luxurious vehicle.

898
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 3: It's got twenty one speakers inside. It's got massarging seats,

899
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 3: but it's not just for mummy and daddy in the front.

900
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 3: The massarging seats are in the front and in the back.

901
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 3: Google is pre installed. It's a seven seater by the way.

902
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 3: So if you decide that you really want a brood,

903
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 3: like you want to have a lot of children, or

904
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 3: a lot of children and all their friends, you're going

905
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 3: to be able to accommodate this. It is a plug

906
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 3: in hybrid, but you can also do one hundred and

907
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 3: fifty k's range just in the pure EV mode and

908
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 3: then another thousand in hybrid. How good is that? And

909
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 3: because it's a super hybrid, you don't have to have

910
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 3: a charge. If you don't have a charge, it don't

911
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 3: worry because you just never have to plug it in.

912
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 3: It's fast, it's zero to one hundred and under five

913
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 3: k's three hundred and fifty nine killer what power. But

914
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 3: it uses as little as one liter of petrol per

915
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 3: one hundred ks. How good does that sound? At the moment.

916
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 3: A European equivalent would set you back over two hundred

917
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 3: thousand dollars. This one, though, starts at seventy four thousand,

918
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 3: nine ninety. Check it out byd auto dot co dot.

919
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: MZ Heather Duplt.

920
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 3: Loads of texts coming in on being calm, so we're

921
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 3: going to get to that in a minute. First of

922
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 3: all those twenty past five. This year is the twenty

923
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 3: fifth anniversary of the first Lord of the Rings film,

924
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 3: and it continues to be a major success for this

925
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 3: country tourism New Zealand. Rickens. One in five visitors from

926
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 3: the US come here because of Lord of the Rings.

927
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 3: Bruce Hopkins is a key we actor who pay played

928
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 3: Gambling in the original Lord of the Rings trilogy and

929
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 3: is with US.

930
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 20: High Bruce Kilder, how are you heaving?

931
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:54,959
Speaker 21: Well?

932
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 3: Thank you? Are you surprised at how many people still

933
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 3: come here for the from the US?

934
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 5: Just for this? Oh?

935
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 20: It's astounding.

936
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Speaker 11: Hey.

937
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 20: I in fact, I did my first ever. I did

938
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Speaker 20: a bit of tour guiding after the movies came out.

939
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 20: I didn't want to move try and move to LA

940
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 20: or any of that stuff. I wanted to be with

941
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 20: my kids because they were still just coming up to

942
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 20: their teen years, and so I stuck around here and

943
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 20: as with most actors, I had to do other work.

944
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 20: And I realized I'd get invited to fan conventions around

945
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 20: the world, and I realized they're all coming here. So

946
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 20: I became a tour guide. But I hadn't done any

947
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 20: of that for a long time. And then last two

948
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 20: weeks ago, I got asked by a tour company just

949
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 20: accompany a coach load of people down to hobbitont And

950
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 20: they are Australians and it's just astounding, Like half them

951
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 20: you haven't seen the movies, but they just love Hobbitont

952
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 20: as a destination. And I tell you the new Hobbit

953
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 20: Hole that i'd heard about, this new Hobbit hole that's

954
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 20: been completely built, a whole Hobbit hole, not just the

955
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 20: little frontages that they used to have. It is astounding.

956
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 20: Everyone that goes in there wants to move in.

957
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 3: I'm hoping that can stand. And so it's made for humans.

958
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 3: Do you reckon though? With the new films coming out

959
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 3: and all the stuff that's going on that it's just

960
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 3: going to keep this tourism generating for us.

961
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 20: I had a crazy experience last year, Heather I got

962
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 20: I hadn't gone to any I know hadn't wanted to

963
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 20: go to any fan conventions over the probably the last decade.

964
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 20: I'd sort of had other things that I was doing,

965
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 20: and I got invited to one last year in London

966
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 20: called for the Love of Fantasy. It was the first

967
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 20: fan convention of any anything that he's been involved in

968
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 20: that Ian McCallen has ever gone to. So it was

969
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 20: Ian McAllen, Elijah Andy, Sean, Sean Aston, myself, Billy and Dom.

970
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 20: It was just there were thousands there. Most of them

971
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 20: would have been in primary school when the movies came out.

972
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 20: So this just continues. It's the next generations. They just

973
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 20: it's Tolkien. It's it's the realm of Tolkien brings them in.

974
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, brilliant. I'm pleased to hear that. I'm happy for

975
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 3: all the money coming in. Bruce, look after yourself. Bruce

976
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 3: Hopkins key reactor who is in Lord of the Rings

977
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 3: five twenty two.

978
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 2: Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Heather dupicl and

979
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 2: Drive with one New Zealand coverage like no one else

980
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 2: news talks.

981
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 3: They'd be all right, We're going to have a chat

982
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 3: to n ZOC about the ruling from the IOC from

983
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 3: the International Olympic Committee that transgender women are not to

984
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 3: compete in female categories. That's after the news. It's five

985
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 3: twenty five now on Chippy. Is anyone else finding it

986
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 3: harder and harder to believe Chrishipkins when he says he

987
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 3: didn't know it was unsafe to force kids under eighteen

988
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 3: to have two COVID jabs. So he's held a press

989
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 3: conference this afternoon explaining the latest revelation, which is that

990
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 3: there is a cabinet paper in his name that makes

991
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 3: it clear that two jabs for kids between the ages

992
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 3: of twelve and seventeen adds unnecessary risks to their hearts.

993
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 3: The relevance of this is that it proves he did

994
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 3: know there was a risk, He was told there was

995
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 3: a risk. But now his story has changed because of

996
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 3: this paper. First he said he didn't get any information.

997
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 3: Now he sang, oh, yeah, he did actually get the information,

998
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 3: but he only got them information after he'd made the

999
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 3: decision to force the kids to have the jab, because

1000
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 3: that decision was made in October, and this cabinet paper

1001
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 3: was in March, and look, the mandates were going to

1002
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 3: end in April anyway, so dot dot and then Ginny

1003
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,959
Speaker 3: pops up this morning with a totally different spin, saying,

1004
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 3: oh yes, but Ashley Bloomfield changed his mind and gave

1005
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 3: verbal advice in cabinet, which actually I think sounds like

1006
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 3: she's confusing one fib for another and only making things

1007
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 3: look worse. And you will notice that Chippy is not

1008
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 3: on this show today. Of course we asked Chippy to

1009
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 3: be on the show today. He's too busy. Now I

1010
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 3: don't like doing this, but if he's not going to

1011
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 3: come on the show and explain himself, I'm going to

1012
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 3: tell you what I think may have happened here. I

1013
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 3: think that they did know that it was risky. I

1014
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 3: think they might have known it was risky. I've seen

1015
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 3: COVID expert advice going back to November warning Ashley that

1016
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 3: there is a risk of heart problems and kids getting

1017
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 3: two jabs. I find it hard to believe that Ashley

1018
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 3: didn't mention anything to Aisha and Chippy when they were

1019
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 3: meeting every week. Remember they're meeting every week. There is

1020
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 3: a mandate on these kids. Do you not think that

1021
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 3: at some point Ashley goes hey, Chippy and Aisha, I

1022
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 3: know you're forcing the kids to get the jab but

1023
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:07,919
Speaker 3: do you know that We've got a lot of health

1024
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 3: advice that says you probably you really don't think that

1025
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 3: that happened. I think what happened is that they were

1026
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 3: so desperate to keep their message intact that the JAB

1027
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 3: was safe because Jacinda said the JAB was safe, that

1028
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 3: they couldn't risk saying, look, guys, new advices, it's safe

1029
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 3: for everybody except for kids. Now, whether they did that

1030
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 3: consciously or unconsciously, I don't know, but I think that's

1031
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 3: what happened. But I will continue to believe that this

1032
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 3: is what happened unless there is a better explanation, and

1033
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 3: telling us that they didn't see the documents and didn't

1034
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 3: know anything about the JAB being unsafe is frankly becoming

1035
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,720
Speaker 3: very very very hard to believe.

1036
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: Ever, due for see Ellen Hither.

1037
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,280
Speaker 3: I'm definitely fully aware of how bad this fuel situation

1038
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 3: could be if the fuel shortage continues, but I'm not

1039
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 3: going to become dramatic about it, well said Hither, I'm

1040
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 3: starting to just get on with life if I can.

1041
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 3: I can't control the situation, can't control the fuel stocks,

1042
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 3: So what can we do? A point at no point

1043
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 3: about it, no point stressing out Hither, I'm I'm very

1044
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 3: calm about this. Hither I did work it out a

1045
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 3: month ago. Hither I worked it out three weeks ago.

1046
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 3: I've stuck stocked up on four hundred and ten liters

1047
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 3: of diesel and I saved six hundred and twelve dollars

1048
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 3: doing so. It was a good investment. Yeah, I think

1049
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 3: Biship is wrong. I think we know how bad it is.

1050
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 3: We're just trusting them to do the right thing, and

1051
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 3: I think we're doing this. Can't control the situation, not

1052
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 3: stressing out Sports Title. Next news took Zippis.

1053
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 1: The day's newspakers talked to Heather first.

1054
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 2: Heather duples the Ellen drive with one New Zealand and

1055
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 2: the power of satellite mobile new sorgs end b.

1056
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 3: You're so right herether, I recall some of the uncomfortable

1057
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 3: moments and glances that Ashley would give them at the

1058
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 3: press conferences. Well, it's not a case of goodies and

1059
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 3: baddies here because Ashley ain't anywhere to be seen as

1060
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 3: he not fronting up either sports title is going to

1061
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 3: be with us shortly. The Warehouse, by the way, has

1062
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 3: reported its half year results not bad net profit after

1063
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 3: tacks of close to sixteen million dollar. Interesting thing is

1064
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 3: they're going to open a store in Munga Fi. Now

1065
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 3: this is the first time they'll be opening a store

1066
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 3: since twenty twenty three, so you'd have to say that

1067
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 3: it's a vote of confidence and where the business is headed.

1068
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 3: We'll talk to the new CEO, who'll be with us

1069
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 3: after six o'clock. It's twenty four away from six. Now

1070
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 3: let's have a chat about the Olympics. The IOC has

1071
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 3: today banned transgender women from competing in the female category

1072
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 3: at the upcoming Olympics. Athletes will have to do a

1073
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 3: gene test to establish their sex. Here's the IOC president,

1074
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 3: Kirsty Coventry.

1075
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 18: The Olympic Games has a focus on elite sport and

1076
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 18: an elite sport, we must ensure the fairness, safety and

1077
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 18: integrity of all competitions within the Games.

1078
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 3: Nick Nickel is the NZOC president, Hi Nikki hi heavo.

1079
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 3: Is this going to affect any of our athletes?

1080
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 22: Well, at the moment, it wouldn't affect any of our

1081
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 22: athletes if we think about the current trajectories through to

1082
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 22: Los Angeles. But what it has done in bringing in

1083
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 22: this new policy means we have very clear and definitive guidelines.

1084
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 22: As we build towards the qualification pathway for Los Angeles.

1085
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 3: What happens. Do you think that this is going to

1086
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 3: affect what happens at the community sport level. Maybe eventually

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Speaker 3: one day.

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Speaker 22: No, I don't think so. I mean, I think from

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00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 22: a community perspective, inclusion is probably the stronger of the

1090
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 22: three lenses. We talk about fairness, we talk about inclusion,

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00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:22,879
Speaker 22: and we talk about safety, and certainly, you know, as

1092
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 22: a mum of two teenage daughters who have done sport,

1093
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 22: I think inclusion at that community level is still a

1094
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 22: really important part and all the benefits of sport that

1095
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 22: comes with that is still a paramount.

1096
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 3: Now I've had a look at the guidelines and still

1097
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 3: I just want to make sure that I've got this right.

1098
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 3: You tell me if this is how you understand it. So,

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00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,919
Speaker 3: transgender women are obviously barred, but it gets a little

1100
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 3: bit more complicated with intersex people. And in this case,

1101
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 3: what they've decided if is an intersex woman with low

1102
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 3: testosterone they are able to compete, but with high testosterone

1103
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 3: they can't. Is that basically it?

1104
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,720
Speaker 22: Or we're just sort of received the policy that's coming overnight,

1105
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 22: like you, But our understanding is that for anyone participating

1106
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 22: in the women's category, female category, they will have to

1107
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 22: undertake the gene screening the sry gene that they're looking

1108
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 22: for and making sure there's a negative test for all

1109
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 22: women to participate. Now, there is an exception that has

1110
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,240
Speaker 22: been included, and we haven't gotten got all the details

1111
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,760
Speaker 22: around that fine print for what they call DSD different

1112
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 22: sexual disorders, and so that will be highly nuanced and

1113
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 22: it is a very complex area, but I think that

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00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 22: will be You know, that is the exception, not the normal.

1115
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 3: Now, what do you think an enormal And if you

1116
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 3: cast your mind back to how much the IOC loved

1117
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,760
Speaker 3: the fact that Laurel Hubbard was participating as a woman,

1118
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 3: you cast your mind back to that, you think about

1119
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 3: the massive u turn that has happened in just a

1120
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 3: few years, what do you think that does to public

1121
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 3: perceptions of the IOC.

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00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 22: Yeah, I think the IOC have applied what they have

1123
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 22: felt were the appropriate rules at the time, and I

1124
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 22: think even over the last two years, we've seen a

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00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 22: significant increase in the scientific research. And we also know

1126
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 22: that Kersey Commentry, under her mandate as the IOC president,

1127
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 22: has had a really strong focus on this area. So

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00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 22: what you see I think of both of those two

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00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 22: things coming together under this new policy.

1130
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Speaker 3: Nikki, thank you very much for your time. As always, Nicky,

1131
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 3: nicol nzoc Ceo. It's twenty one away from six.

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Speaker 18: Today we the International Olympic Committee have published a policy

1135
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 18: on the protection of the female category. I understand that

1136
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 18: this is very sensitive topic.

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Speaker 3: Prise the author to take tech.

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Speaker 14: Nicky, you'll give it night.

1139
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 20: Heads on DA got a right moment, Little Warious on

1140
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 20: the very last day.

1141
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 3: They've explored against the Knights again and.

1142
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 5: Switching sports now on to football.

1143
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 12: Three new faces will feel sure in the Frega Boys

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00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 12: twenty seven months squad.

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Speaker 3: On the huddle of us this evening sports title, we

1146
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,320
Speaker 3: have Darcy Watergrave Sports Talk hoast and Jim Ka Sports commentator.

1147
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 3: Hi lads, Dullo, good afternoon. This isn't the end of

1148
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 3: the matter, is it? Because I'd imagine the likes of

1149
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 3: Casta Semna would take if she was banned from competing

1150
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 3: against other women. She would take it to court.

1151
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 6: Woldn't she so complex, so extraordinarily complex, And this may

1152
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 6: be an unpopular with a number of particularly leaning individuals.

1153
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 6: The amount of people this effects is so small, it

1154
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 6: is so small. Is it really worth the explosion of

1155
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 6: debate over that? And they would say, yes, it is,

1156
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 6: absolutely it is. There are people out there with DSD

1157
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 6: and they've got this chromosome that suggests that, yes, they're

1158
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 6: going to develop into a man. Therefore they are determined

1159
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 6: as being a man. That Let's look at the very

1160
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 6: top of the sporting world and the amount of people

1161
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 6: that move up to that very top of the world

1162
00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 6: that have this issue. Think that there are so few

1163
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 6: people in that space, so few people in that space

1164
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 6: at that very high level, that maybe too much has

1165
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 6: been made of it. Now I'm probably going to get

1166
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 6: attacked for saying that I'm a very woke human being.

1167
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 3: I'm going to argue with you because I'm going to

1168
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 3: say to you, it's not just the people who are

1169
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 3: into sex DSD or the people who are transgender who

1170
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 3: are affected by it, but it's also the competitors who

1171
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 3: are cisgender women who may lose a medal because of

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00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 3: their extra strength so great.

1173
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 6: But no the people who are going to be banned

1174
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 6: or let through regardless you go. There are so few

1175
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 6: people that's not going to affect the amount of people

1176
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 6: at an Olympic level. Say you've got a thousand people,

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00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 6: maybe point zero zero zero one of them are going

1178
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 6: to be in that situation. So how does that going

1179
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 6: to affect people down the line if they who do

1180
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:52,720
Speaker 6: actually compete.

1181
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 3: Well, I know what I'm okay, Well, either way, it's

1182
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 3: still a small number, but it's not insignificant because there

1183
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 3: is an Algerian boxer who now has the gold medal

1184
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 3: in female boxing and is arguably under these criteria are

1185
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 3: going to be banned, Yes, and significant.

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00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 6: That Well, I don't know, And Jim cay is when

1187
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 6: I climb.

1188
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 12: Into this, Yeah, but well I tend to agree with

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00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 12: what Dark is saying. But I can see what you're

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00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 12: saying heither, because if you have a thousand people and

1191
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,760
Speaker 12: they're all affected by one person, then it's not insignificant.

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00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 12: So you know, there's I think I think you're both

1193
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 12: right because there's you know, there will be very few

1194
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 12: people who are personally affected by it who make it

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00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 12: to that top level, but those people could have a

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00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 12: ripple off because.

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Speaker 3: Because I mean, you make a very good point here,

1198
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 3: because what is going on, Jim, is it's not just

1199
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Speaker 3: the Algerian boxer who is affected right now, it's the

1200
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 3: entire Algerian boxing federation that now sits underneath her, and

1201
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 3: then also the boxing federation that sits underneath the one

1202
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:49,919
Speaker 3: who should have got gold but now got silver.

1203
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 6: I think they've simplified everything, and if anything, that's possibly

1204
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,720
Speaker 6: the best thing about this is it makes it very simple.

1205
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 6: Is our black and whitelaw, here's our black and white rule.

1206
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 10: If you don't, you can't.

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00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 3: Go, Jim.

1208
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 12: But they've already got scientists that have come out arguing

1209
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 12: the Titans saying this system is not going to work,

1210
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 12: and that system is not going to work. And I'll

1211
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 12: tell you what that. I firmly believe that the IOC

1212
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 12: has done this massive backflip because the Orange man who

1213
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 12: runs the United States has banned transgender.

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00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: I was going to bring that up.

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00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 6: It's the Dodge Trump syndrome.

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00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 3: Guys. When did Donald Trump? When did Donald When did

1217
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 3: he issue that edict.

1218
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 12: When he first came He doesn't need that, he doesn't

1219
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 12: need to issue the edit killer he did.

1220
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 3: It was an Executive Order, saib CO and Kirsty Coventry

1221
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 3: were campaigning on this before that, so it is actually

1222
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 3: by internal IOC stuff as well.

1223
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Speaker 12: And look at the io C. How ethical is that organization?

1224
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 20: I mean, come off.

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00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 6: There's an interesting piece from the General of Sportsman and

1226
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 6: saying no scientific data of acceptable quality regarding sport performance

1227
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 6: as an advantage people with DSDs possessing an SR wide gene.

1228
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 6: So nuanced. It's extreme, extremely so. And if you look

1229
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 6: through a number of other quotes from people and statements

1230
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 6: from various medical bodies, there's not really a standard point

1231
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 6: that they all agree on. There are so many points

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00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 6: to be it's really.

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Speaker 12: Really at the mindfield.

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Speaker 3: It totally is mindfield. Let's take a quick break, come

1235
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 3: back shortly. It's quarter two.

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00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:40,080
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Speaker 3: Brand right back of the sports hittle Jim K's Darcy

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Speaker 3: water Grave. Jim, how are you feeling for the Warriors

1240
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 3: this evening? Confident?

1241
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 10: Stop there? Stop there?

1242
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 3: Do you want to now?

1243
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 5: So crack it up?

1244
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Speaker 1: I tell you what.

1245
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Speaker 12: I sent the story to a few of my mates

1246
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 12: in la Island, but I'm more of rugular person that

1247
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 12: a Warrior's person. Although I do follow the Warriors and

1248
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 12: I wish them all the success. But the Herald ran

1249
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 12: a story after their first game, and honestly, it was

1250
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 12: like they'd won the competition. No one gets as excited

1251
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 12: about the Warriors as a Warriors fan, and no one

1252
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 12: gets as far ahead of themselves as Warriors fans do.

1253
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 12: So you know this is the Warriors. Yeah, if you

1254
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 12: if you have five percent of Warriors in you, then

1255
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 12: you're thinking that this is going to be the year

1256
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 12: and that they're going to win the title.

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00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 6: You say that if you get into the top four,

1258
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 6: you actually you can only say it's our year. If

1259
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 6: they're in the final, one say it might be our Yeah,

1260
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 6: it's such a hard competition.

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00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 3: Preparing it sounds like you're preparing themselves for a loss.

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00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 3: Settled down, now you're the rugby guy, can you explain

1263
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 3: to us why the Lions have gone back to the cake.

1264
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 12: Tin pressure from the captain to return There would be my.

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00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,040
Speaker 3: Are they getting a bit of a discount?

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01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 12: Look, NPC should be played in the smaller stadium as

1267
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 12: you can find, so that you're create a bit of atmosphere.

1268
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 12: When Tony Giles, the CEO of Run and Rugby, took

1269
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,439
Speaker 12: them out to Potty Do it. It was fantastic, it was

1270
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 12: it was a great move and all credit to him

1271
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 12: for doing it. I can only surmise that the cakedin

1272
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 12: has said, hey, mate, we need you back in the stadium,

1273
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 12: We need you playing games here. You know, you say

1274
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 12: exactly saying about Auckland and Eden Park. You could probably

1275
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 12: say it about Waikato and FMG Stadium. The NPC should

1276
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 12: be played at both heat grounds. Bay a plenty have

1277
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 12: have the best setup of those top teams because they

1278
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 12: play it total on the domain and it's just fantastic.

1279
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 12: It looks really cool, so that you know, I think

1280
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 12: it's it's pressure and I think it's a real pity

1281
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:45,919
Speaker 12: that they're not playing their games at smaller stadiums where

1282
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 12: people get up close and personal and intimate with the team.

1283
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 6: Really hard to get to Potty Do and Jerry Collins

1284
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 6: Stadium from anywhere around Wellington's the transports so awful from

1285
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 6: the lower Heart, from the uppart from the city, but

1286
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 6: it really cuts it off and it's it can't get

1287
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 6: any further and any bigger facilities aren't great either. Bring

1288
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 6: it to back to Wellington, to cake Tin to Henry

1289
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 6: Stadium whatever it's called now, and then work on other

1290
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 6: activations to try and attract more people there. It's at

1291
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 6: the end of train lines, it's right in the middle

1292
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 6: of town. And no, it doesn't work with a big

1293
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 6: yellow seats, but you've got to aid higher. And I

1294
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 6: think that with Henry Stadium and the way they built that,

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01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 6: they are.

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01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 10: That they can run into Nationals.

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Speaker 6: They got all blacks, but they are not best to

1298
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 6: play anything as far as NPC is concerned. Tony Gils

1299
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 6: on the show yesterday and he goes, we need to

1300
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 6: think big. We need to attract people. We need to

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Speaker 6: make it closer and we don't want to be taking

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Speaker 6: them all the way out to pott It do. It's

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Speaker 6: got a lift and the bigger ground. It may not

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01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 6: look great, but we've got Free to Wear TV now

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Speaker 6: through TV and Z we're going to get a whole

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Speaker 6: lot more eyeballs on the game. Therefore, we've got sponsors

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Speaker 6: and promotions going on within the park and that will

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Speaker 6: attract people. And that's what David him.

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Speaker 3: That's a lot of heavy lifting for the free to

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Speaker 3: air broadcast. But you know, fingers crossed? Now what are

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Speaker 3: you doing?

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Speaker 6: Jim's strangling his phone?

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01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 3: Is are you reversing?

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Speaker 6: Jim looks like it's just the sports hitle with Darcy

1315
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 6: and Heather. Doesn't it happened to?

1316
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 1: I mean?

1317
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 3: Is that what a car crash sounds?

1318
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 6: What may be?

1319
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 3: I don't know, right reggae boys? Is that the best nickname,

1320
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 3: isn't it?

1321
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 6: The best nickname in sport by the length of a

1322
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 6: straight is the monkey Hangers? Do you know the story?

1323
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 6: A football team in Hartleypool, the Hartleypool monkey Hangers? Why

1324
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 6: are they called the monkey Hangers? And the Napoleonic Wars?

1325
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Speaker 1: My ship?

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Speaker 10: No, no, this is great.

1327
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 6: A ship was wrecked, a French ship was wrecked offside

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01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 6: the beach, okay, and the only person that survived. Person

1329
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Speaker 6: that survived was this ship's monkey, right, And the ship's

1330
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 6: monkey was dressed up in a French military uniform to

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01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 6: amuse the people on the boat. But they all died

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01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 6: and it was left. So the locals they never seen

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01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 6: a frenchman, They've never seen a monkey. They had no

1334
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 6: idea what was going on. So they had a trial

1335
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 6: on the beach and they put the monkey to death

1336
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 6: as it's punishment. They hung it, They strung it up

1337
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 6: on the beach. Therefore they became known Hartlepool as the

1338
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 6: monkey Hangers, and their football team is called the monkey Hangers.

1339
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 6: Is there a better one than that?

1340
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,439
Speaker 3: If you get this crap, like, how do you feel?

1341
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 3: It's not crap? I love it. It's what happened to you, Jimmy,

1342
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 3: you saw life?

1343
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 12: Yeah no, sorry. What happened was that my daughter stole

1344
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 12: my car and my phone connected to the car, which

1345
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 12: was the only way that I knew that.

1346
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 3: Did she hear us talking to her? Was she like?

1347
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 1: Who might have?

1348
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 12: She might have? But what happens when there's a petrol crisis,

1349
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 12: hither your kids come out and take your car?

1350
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 3: That's right. Well, I'm glad that you're saying, because we

1351
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 3: will briefly worried you'd had a car crash. Lads, it's

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01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 3: wonderful to talk to you. Thank you very much, Darcy.

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Speaker 3: I loved you, young Darcy Waldgrave. We're back for sports

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01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 3: talk at seven in gin k sports commentator ate away

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Speaker 3: from six.

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Speaker 2: It's the Heather Dupless Allen Drive Show podcast on my

1357
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 2: Art Radio powered by News Talks Be.

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Speaker 3: I've got Peter Lewis with us. Just have to have

1359
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 3: buy sex. He's going to talk us through how things

1360
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 3: are going in Asia with a fuel crisis and whatnot. Heather,

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01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 3: a man dressed in a monkey costume, was elected as

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01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 3: the Heartpool mayor about fifteen years ago. Thank you, Dan, Heather.

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01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 3: Only a fool would argue that biological males do not

1364
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 3: have an advantage over biological females in physical sports events. Actually, interestingly,

1365
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 3: the IOC has put some numbers behind this, so they reckon.

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01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 3: This is the document that they put out basically supporting

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01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 3: their position, their decision today. What they say is male

1368
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 3: performance advantage over biological women is about ten to twelve

1369
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 3: percent in most running and swimming events. In throwing and

1370
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 3: jumping events, they reckon it's at least twenty percent. And

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01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 3: in explosive power events including punching sports so obviously boxing,

1372
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 3: it can be greater than one hundred percent, which is,

1373
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 3: to be honest, a lot more than I thought it

1374
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 3: would be. But I tell you what, I'm still very

1375
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 3: much of the view that this is not at all

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01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 3: finished yet. I think the likes of Casta Semenya. If

1377
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 3: you look at the rules Casta Semenia intersex woman runs

1378
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 3: in the women's category intersex. Yep should be allowed to

1379
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 3: run in the women's category as intosex, but because her

1380
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 3: testosterone is so high, she may well be excluded. In

1381
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 3: which case, who does cast a semena run against so

1382
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 3: she can run against the blokes. She's clearly like she's

1383
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 3: a woman. She can run against the blokes, or she's

1384
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 3: not going to run at all, goes to court. That's

1385
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 3: where I think this is going four away from six.

1386
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 3: Now I thought this is really interesting. There's a yarn

1387
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 3: today about how they're catching hedgehogs down in Canterbury. This

1388
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 3: is on the Kayitaretti Spit. This is the long finger

1389
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 3: of land that separates the lake from the sea down there. Anyway,

1390
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 3: they reckon they're so successful. Hedgehogs are a pest. Obviously,

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01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 3: you don't need me to tell you that. They reckon

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01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 3: that they've already caught ninety eight to ninety nine percent

1393
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 3: of the hedgehogs down there. They had more than a thousand.

1394
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 3: They've caught more than a thousand. They reckon they've got

1395
01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 3: about twenty to fifty left. Stably confident they're going to

1396
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 3: clear them all up. They've got a drone that just

1397
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 3: runs up and down the spit flashing a light, which

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01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 3: they have warned people. It's not a UFO. It's got

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01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 3: a thermal camera attached to it, and basically the camera

1400
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 3: sees the hedgehogs, and then they also have this whole

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01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 3: network of ground cameras and some of them the minute

1402
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 3: that it sees a hedgehog, it uploads it to one

1403
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 3: of the team members phone apps within seconds. One time

1404
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 3: they had a detection. They were there within seven minutes

1405
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 3: at the site. They found the hedgehog about fifteen twenty

1406
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 3: meters away from the camera location, took the herejog, put

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01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 3: the hedgehog down. Ferrets are all gone, heageogs are going

1408
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 3: to be gone soon. Then they reckon they'll get rid

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01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 3: of the possums in two months, and then after that

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01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 3: the weasels, stoats and feral cats are in line pretty good.

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01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 17: Aim I had the Darcy reckons that the bloke who

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01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 17: won that election in Hartlepool with the costume, the council

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01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 17: made a rule that he wasn't allowed to wear his

1414
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 17: monkey costume while serving as mayor, so clearly they're.

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01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 3: Still not quite an He knows about that as well.

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01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 17: I think Darcy might be running into the mirror party

1417
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 17: pool at this point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, warehouses next.

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01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 2: Down, what were the major calls and how will it

1420
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 2: affect the economy? The big business questions on the Business hour,

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01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 2: We're they had the dup for c Allen and Mass

1422
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 2: insurance and investments.

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01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 1: Your futures had good hands U Storks be.

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01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 3: Good evening coming up in the next hour. Peter Lewis

1425
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 3: is going to run us through the fertilizer problem as

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01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 3: a result of the Iran war. After half past Barry

1427
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 3: Sober will rap the political week that was Gavin Gray

1428
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 3: is with us out of the UK. We have the

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01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 3: numbers and just to take at seven past six now

1430
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 3: not a bad result for the warehouse. It's reported a

1431
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 3: net profit after tacks of nearly sixteen million dollars for

1432
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:35,959
Speaker 3: the half year, but it is warning of tough times

1433
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 3: ahead if the Iran war drags on. The chief executive

1434
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 3: is Mark Sturton.

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01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 1: Hi, Mark, Hi, that are you well?

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01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 3: Thank you know, I see you're opening your first stores

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01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 3: in three years. This is a bit of a vote

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01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 3: of confidence, isn't it.

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01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 23: Yeah, you know it's part of a growth path that

1440
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 23: we want to get back onto. You know, we were

1441
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:56,920
Speaker 23: closed three stores in the last couple of years, and

1442
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 23: you know, retailer needs to be expanding, and we see

1443
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 23: that Mangifi area is just a really great catchment for us,

1444
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 23: and we're really excited about it.

1445
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, why why go to Amongafi?

1446
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 23: Well, I think it's just a growing catchment. I think

1447
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 23: it's one of the fastest growing catchments in the country

1448
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 23: at the moment. And you know, with just the communities

1449
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 23: growing really nasty, and you know, the ware house history

1450
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 23: has all been about getting into communities and serving in

1451
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 23: those communities, and I think our offering is really appropriate

1452
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 23: for there. But it's a growing catchment and we need

1453
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:27,720
Speaker 23: to be a part of these growing catchments.

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01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 3: Now, obviously this is a business that has not always

1455
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 3: been in the best shape. So give me a status

1456
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 3: report on where you think it is after the tidy

1457
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 3: up you've already done.

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01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 23: Yeah, I think it's that I'm pleased with the results,

1459
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 23: you know, in the circumstances and the economic conditions, and

1460
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 23: also acknowledging, like you say, the turnaround that job that

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01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 23: we've got to do. I think we're probably in the

1462
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 23: first third of it, particularly in the red the warehouse business.

1463
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:58,799
Speaker 23: I think I'm pleased with where our warehouse safety business

1464
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:02,879
Speaker 23: is really perform forming Nasty and really a standout performance

1465
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 23: out of the three and our not leaving business and

1466
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:07,680
Speaker 23: made the same amount of profit that it made the

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01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 23: whole of last year in this first half. So I

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01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:13,720
Speaker 23: think from a contribution perspective, we're happy with Knowles in

1469
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 23: the and were health stationary, but the Red business we've

1470
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 23: still got some work to do on margins and we've

1471
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 23: still got some work to do on some of our assortments,

1472
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 23: which is going to take a little bit more time

1473
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 23: as we work through some of all the assortments that

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01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 23: you know we've bought previously. So but yeah, I think,

1475
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 23: but we're doing good cost control and can kind of

1476
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:35,599
Speaker 23: control the elements of our business that are within our

1477
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 23: gam bit of control, and that's we've done quite well

1478
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:41,679
Speaker 23: over this half on bringing those down.

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01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 14: Yeah.

1480
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 3: And so do you think you've got on top of

1481
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 3: buying stuff, you know, being better at choosing the stuff

1482
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 3: that is on trend and that we want to buy.

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01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 23: Yes, I think we're definitely getting much much stronger than

1484
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 23: when I first arrived at this business. I'm really excited

1485
01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 23: probably for some of this year. It is probably the

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01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 23: best in the cation of our new buying team, a

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01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 23: new head of merchandise and head of planning, and I

1488
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 23: think that extra planning discipline that we've added to the

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01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 23: business is really going to pay dividends for us because

1490
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 23: you know, it's better stock management, better margin control, and

1491
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 23: also it actually just controls risks in a in a

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01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 23: very you know, more conclusive way than we've done potentially

1493
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 23: in the past.

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01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 3: How do you tidy something like this up? Because I mean,

1495
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 3: I would imagine that that deciding what to buy and

1496
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 3: deciding what Heather of ponsmbe is going to want to

1497
01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 3: buy is quite a subjective thing. So how do you

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01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:33,599
Speaker 3: how do you nail that well?

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01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 23: I think it's a lot of your research and the

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01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 23: work that you do upfront, and some of that is

1501
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 23: in trends. Some of that is that you've got to

1502
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 23: improve your le times.

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01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 16: You know.

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01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 23: One of the big things that we've we struggling well

1505
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:45,720
Speaker 23: is that our lee times are too long. So to

1506
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:47,559
Speaker 23: your point is that if you don't touch your lee

1507
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:50,719
Speaker 23: times down in your responsiveness, you get stuck in product

1508
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:53,720
Speaker 23: that's moved on, you know, and their customer has moved on.

1509
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:56,680
Speaker 23: So you know, it's all in the buying and merchandising

1510
01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 23: processes upfront, which obviously I've got quite a bit of

1511
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 23: experience from our past which I'm hopefully bringing to the business.

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01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 23: And we've got some great leaders in there that have

1513
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 23: also got some good experience that are new and fresh blood.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so what are the problems that you see you

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Speaker 3: look at Iran, what do you see?

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Speaker 23: Actually Iran is obviously you've got these flow on effects

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Speaker 23: across the world and I think you know a lot

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Speaker 23: of uncertainty that's flowing into supply chains. I think that's

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Speaker 23: the real real challenge. And obviously oil is the big, uh,

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Speaker 23: you know, the big topic at the moment, because if

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Speaker 23: you don't move oil and oils, that's half pricess or

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Speaker 23: not only just where the prass of oil, but the

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Speaker 23: access to oil is really the real challenge. And also

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Speaker 23: you know with the supply chain with both and you know,

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Speaker 23: there's a lot of blank sailings and contention for both.

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Speaker 23: So just the reliability of us of things hitting our

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Speaker 23: shores at the right time there's also one fact. And

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Speaker 23: then obviously the flow on of prass is another thing

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Speaker 23: that we're very conscious of.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look that that is probably one of

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Speaker 3: the most important fallouts is that we're likely to have

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Speaker 3: another cost to living crisis as a result of this

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Speaker 3: in some way, can you guys weather that.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, I mean we're a value retail and the mission

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Speaker 23: doesn't change, you know, depending on the on the circumstances.

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Speaker 23: You know, we deal with foreign exchange challenges and various

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01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 23: different commodity challenges all the time. Obviously this scale feels bigger,

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Speaker 23: and we've got contingency plans and things that we use internally,

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Speaker 23: and we've started to look at scenarios on our own business,

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Speaker 23: which any good business around New Zealand is doing, I

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01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 23: presume at this time. And we're working with all our

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Speaker 23: stakeholders to mitigate as much of this flow on effect

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Speaker 23: as we can. But you know, we believe, you know,

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01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:41,640
Speaker 23: value retailer and tough times should do well and you

1545
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 23: know we well positioned as a value retailer to do that,

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01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 23: especially as our assortments get better.

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Speaker 3: Michaelson, thank you very much. I really appreciate your time.

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Speaker 3: That's Mark Sturtain, the chief executive of the Warehouse. Heather

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Speaker 3: from Ponsonby. I don't think is shopping at the warehouse,

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Speaker 3: Thank you. Hayden Heather from Ponsib is shopping at the warehouse.

1551
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 3: Actually got a fantastic spider Man toy there. The other

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Speaker 3: days it's a place for kids toys. Actually spend too

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01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 3: much money at the warehouse. I'm singularly keeping I'm keeping

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Speaker 3: it afloat so that it's so I'm helping them with

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01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:10,799
Speaker 3: the turnaround. That that's what I tell myself that anyway,

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Speaker 3: here's the numbers ends. It's pretty flat. Not a lot

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Speaker 3: has moved today so INZIDEX fifty is down zero point

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01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 3: three two percent. A six fifty down zero point two

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01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:21,720
Speaker 3: percent so far today barrel of Brent crude costs one

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Speaker 3: hundred and seven US dollars. It's done down only half

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Speaker 3: a cent half a percent. One New Zealand dollar is

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Speaker 3: worth fifty eight US cents, eighty four Australian cents, fifty

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Speaker 3: euro cents, forty three UK pence and ninety two yen.

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Speaker 3: Fourteen pass six.

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Speaker 2: It's the Heather Duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 2: on my Heart Radio, empowered by news dog Zebbi.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I have got something cool to tell you about

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Speaker 3: rugby when I get a chance, so stand by for

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01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 3: that right now. It's sixteen pass six and Barry Sopa

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Speaker 3: our political Our senior political correspondent obviously raps the week

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Speaker 3: that was at this time. Welcome back, Barry.

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Speaker 10: Thank you that nice to be right here.

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Speaker 3: After you, after your your cross it you did at

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Speaker 3: quarters of five. I've got a text from an MP

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Speaker 3: for you. Attention is one caps, which is a joke,

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01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 3: I suppose Trump joke. Attention Barry Trump is funny and

1577
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:11,680
Speaker 3: wild and has the world's greatest military at his disposable disposal.

1578
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:13,880
Speaker 3: He is currently the master of our universe. Sorry for

1579
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 3: your tds.

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Speaker 10: Do you know where I reckon that came from.

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01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 14: I came from a man yesterday who I accused of

1582
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Speaker 14: asking patsy questions of his leader in parliament.

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Speaker 10: That's all I'll say. That's all i'll say.

1584
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 14: But why I have maybe a derangement syndrome when it

1585
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:33,719
Speaker 14: comes to Donald Trump is that I covered his first

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01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:37,719
Speaker 14: campaign in twenty sixteen, and I've got to say, back then,

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Speaker 14: I never thought the American public would vote in a narcissistic,

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01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 14: misogynistic person like Donald Trump. The only reason I've got

1589
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 14: maybe derangement syndrome is that one man has disrupted the

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Speaker 14: whole world. You know, tariffs for a start, then the

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Speaker 14: the Iranian thing and everything affects us, you and me.

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01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:09,160
Speaker 14: So anyone out there who accuses me of having TDEs,

1593
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 14: fine by me. But just think, are you happy paying

1594
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 14: so much more for your petrol? Are you happy that

1595
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 14: things are costing you more in the supermarket? Well you

1596
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 14: can blame one man. You can blame Trump because it's

1597
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:25,679
Speaker 14: all as a result of the actions he's taken, while

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01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 14: these muppets that sit behind him, up beside him are

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01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:34,640
Speaker 14: nod And he even talked about sharpe pens, but he

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01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:38,240
Speaker 14: doesn't for a reseminary what promoting sharp epns?

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Speaker 10: He talks now, wonderful?

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01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 3: He talks about sharpie pens at the moment for a reason,

1603
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 3: which is that he can see that his opinion polling

1604
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:47,479
Speaker 3: is tanking, so he's trying to distract from the topic.

1605
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 10: Dujure, Well he sounds mad.

1606
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 3: I know that this is where but this is where

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01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:53,800
Speaker 3: I think your TDS gets in the way, and that

1608
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 3: you can't see. It's fine to criticize him for buffoonish behavior,

1609
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 3: but that doesn't make him mental. He is doing these

1610
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:03,440
Speaker 3: things for a reason and that there's a perfect explanation

1611
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 3: for it. Half the time.

1612
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:07,559
Speaker 14: Oh great, okay, no more, we'll have more Trump leaders

1613
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:09,479
Speaker 14: around the world and see where we end up with that.

1614
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:11,680
Speaker 3: Also, I mean, let me ask you this question to

1615
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 3: test your TDS. Is there anything that Trump has done

1616
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 3: that actually was the right thing to do in this

1617
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:20,599
Speaker 3: second administration, was the right thing to Has he done anything?

1618
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:24,720
Speaker 14: Well, he could have done what he did in Venezuela

1619
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 14: and take the leader of the country out and pack

1620
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:30,720
Speaker 14: him onto a plane and get them back to New

1621
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 14: York to stand trial. Now, why couldn't he have done

1622
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 14: that with Hominy? He couldn't because he's too well protected,

1623
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 14: I guess, But.

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Speaker 3: Because administration biggest concern is Heather.

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Speaker 14: I'm a pacifist. I hate wars and I hate civilians,

1626
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 14: particularly children, being killed in wars. And the first hit

1627
01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 14: was on a school in Iran of young young women.

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01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 14: I just think it's that that charges me when it

1629
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:05,600
Speaker 14: comes to a war like this.

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Speaker 3: Okay, But again, what I would say to you is

1631
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:11,640
Speaker 3: that is that is a particularly New Zealand attitude to

1632
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 3: the world because we live in a benign, reasonably benign

1633
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 3: part of the world. No one's firing missiles. You may

1634
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:20,719
Speaker 3: have a completely different attitude if you're living in Israel

1635
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 3: and these guys are funding the guys who are coming

1636
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:23,680
Speaker 3: for you.

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01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 10: Well, you know, when I.

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01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:32,600
Speaker 14: Was in Iraq flying in an American gunship helicopter, the

1639
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:35,600
Speaker 14: man at the back was sitting with the soldier was

1640
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:38,599
Speaker 14: sitting with the machine gun, looking down at the ground

1641
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 14: because it was when.

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01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 10: Isis was big.

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01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 6: And I looked at all the farms below me, and

1644
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:45,719
Speaker 6: they went that far below me, a few hundred feet,

1645
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 6: and I thought, these poor buggers, they're just trying to

1646
01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 6: get on with their jobs, and they've been invaded, you know,

1647
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 6: because of Saddam Hussein. And you know, there were no

1648
01:17:57,920 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 6: weapons or whatever.

1649
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:02,679
Speaker 14: They claim that were there at the time. But it's

1650
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:06,720
Speaker 14: the people I'm concerned about. And this man that's never

1651
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 14: known any hardship in his life, being Donald Trump, inflicting

1652
01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 14: this sort of punishment on the world and inexcusable.

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01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 3: Well, I see, I disagree with you. This war has

1654
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 3: been in the making at the US end for decades. Right,

1655
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 3: It's not like he just came out for fifty years.

1656
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 3: It's not like he just came in and had a

1657
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 3: brain fart and decided to explode things. Anyway, Listen, we've

1658
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:29,599
Speaker 3: got to just cover domestic politics really quickly, very quickly.

1659
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 3: Were you surprised at how badly the fifty dollars a

1660
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 3: week landed, how grumpy people were about it.

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01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:38,280
Speaker 6: Well, of course you're going to get these wines and mowers.

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01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:40,480
Speaker 6: These are the people on benefits.

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01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:43,599
Speaker 14: You know, if they really want to get a benefit

1664
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:45,759
Speaker 14: like this, get out and do some work.

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01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:46,799
Speaker 10: And I know it's.

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01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:49,760
Speaker 6: Hard for a lot of people to do that, but

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01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:52,719
Speaker 6: you know there's a lot that don't try very hard,

1668
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 6: and they normally are the ones that are saying we

1669
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 6: want another government handout. This was to people who put

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01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:01,559
Speaker 6: in a day's work and get a bit more money

1671
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 6: in their pockets.

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Speaker 3: All right, Barry, I'm wrong with it. Thank you, Thank

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01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 3: you very much. Barry Soper, Senior political correspondent, rapping the

1674
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 3: political week that was and Donald Trump six twenty two.

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01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 2: Scrudging the numbers and getting the results. It's Heather Dupercy

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01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 2: Allen on the Business Hour with mass insurance and investments.

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Speaker 1: Your futures in good hands used talks edb Hither.

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01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 3: I totally agree with Barry. He could have reminded he

1679
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:28,680
Speaker 3: could have mentioned our retirement savings being eroded. Also here

1680
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 3: that does Barry not realize that the world desperately needed disrupting,

1681
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 3: decide for yourself. Never the Twain shall meet. I think now,

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01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 3: I always winge about rugby, you know, I winge about

1683
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 3: rugby so and basically what I winge about is that

1684
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 3: it needs to be more exciting. Think football, think nurl.

1685
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 3: So I have got an example of what rugby needs

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01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:52,640
Speaker 3: to do, and what I am going to point you

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01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 3: to is something that rugby is doing, so that I

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01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:57,600
Speaker 3: think this is a fantastic idea. They are turning the

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01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 3: weekend that the new stadium in christ Church is opening,

1690
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:01,720
Speaker 3: you know, with its first games, They're turning that into

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01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 3: basically a festival. So the entire Super Rugby Pacific competition

1692
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 3: is going to descend on christ Church for a three

1693
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:10,880
Speaker 3: day sporting extravaganza. They reckon it'll bring six million dollars

1694
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 3: in visitor spending into christ Church. Fourteen thousand people are

1695
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:15,560
Speaker 3: going to travel to the city and so on. Scribe

1696
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 3: is going to play a Super Bowl style show at

1697
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:19,720
Speaker 3: halftime in one of the games. They're gonna have an

1698
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 3: Anzac ceremony because it's at ANZAC weekend. They're gonna have

1699
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 3: the New Zealand Army Band there. They are going to

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01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:27,920
Speaker 3: have a fantastic time now, I reckon, that's the kind

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01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 3: of thing that that Rugby needs to do things that

1702
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 3: make people who wouldn't ordinarily go to a game go

1703
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:34,800
Speaker 3: to a game because it's not just a game. It's

1704
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 3: a game inscribe and a game in anzac, a band

1705
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:39,680
Speaker 3: and all kinds of you know what I mean, Like

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01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 3: it's more festivally. I reckon, that's the answer, at least

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01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:44,800
Speaker 3: part of the answer. Six twenty six.

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01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:48,320
Speaker 1: There's no business like show business.

1709
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:51,920
Speaker 10: Look at you, you're taking me So.

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01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:54,640
Speaker 3: The iHeartRadio Music Awards were on tonight, and we've got

1711
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 3: all the details for you. The show was hosted by Ludacris.

1712
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:00,640
Speaker 3: They had some good performances. Alex Warren covered from his

1713
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:03,560
Speaker 3: technical glitch at the Grammys and delivered a powerhouse performance.

1714
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:06,720
Speaker 3: Ray sang the House down, TLC, Salt and Pepper in

1715
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 3: Vogue in Vogue one on Vogue. I'm not really sure

1716
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 3: anyway that they brought up the nostalgia part. They were

1717
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 3: there too. The big winner of the night was Taylor Swift,

1718
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 3: who took home Artist of the Year. She made her

1719
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 3: first award show appearance with her new fiance Travis Caltzy,

1720
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 3: and the fans were so excited by her when they

1721
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:24,799
Speaker 3: didn't even let her give her her acceptance speech.

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Speaker 5: I just want to say, first of all, to receive

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Speaker 5: Oh thank.

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Speaker 3: You Ordinary, which is the song you were listening to before?

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Speaker 3: Ordinary one song of the year. Not surprised considering we

1726
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:46,839
Speaker 3: played about a million times on this show. Other awards

1727
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:49,679
Speaker 3: went to Lincoln Park's Somber twenty one pilots Leon Thomas

1728
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:51,880
Speaker 3: and Moore. The two Legacy awards of the night were interesting.

1729
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:55,799
Speaker 3: John Mellencamp took home the Icon Award, Miley Cyrus received

1730
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 3: the Innovator Award and she got a Standing Ovation.

1731
01:21:58,760 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 21: Innovation.

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Speaker 24: For me, high haven't been about leaving who I've been behind,

1733
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 24: but about keeping the journey of finding myself a lot

1734
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 24: of fun. I've always written songs and told stories because

1735
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:10,640
Speaker 24: I love it, and winning awards for that work is

1736
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 24: of course rewarding, but it's not my compass, because if

1737
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 24: it was, I'm sure I'd end up very last.

1738
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Speaker 3: Actually quite a good speech for Hannah Montana. Yes, three

1739
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:22,519
Speaker 3: shows in a row that we have mentioned Hannah Montana.

1740
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 2: News is next, whether it's macro micro or just plain economics.

1741
01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 2: Fall on the Business Hour with head the Duplicila and

1742
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 2: mass insurance and investments. Your futures in good hands? Used

1743
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:38,719
Speaker 2: talks envy?

1744
01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:40,680
Speaker 1: Could you take me?

1745
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:50,360
Speaker 3: Come on, We've just mentioned that we've played this million

1746
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 3: times and it's was like that's not enough. A million

1747
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:52,800
Speaker 3: and one?

1748
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 22: Here we go.

1749
01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:53,679
Speaker 2: Sorry.

1750
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 17: I know Sam's a huge fan of the song, so

1751
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:56,360
Speaker 17: that's all I'll given with a.

1752
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 3: Lord, I mean, I don't know, should we should we?

1753
01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:00,840
Speaker 3: Should we do the golden tree on it? What do

1754
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 3: you think to be fair?

1755
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:04,799
Speaker 17: I'm if it's sick of it, so yeah.

1756
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 3: Let's do the golden treatment. We'll get rid of it.

1757
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:11,479
Speaker 3: It's a bit miserable, isn't it? Honestly, just like Buzz.

1758
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 17: Was that was a big A lot of pop music

1759
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:15,479
Speaker 17: reviewers said the same thing last ye when that song

1760
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:15,720
Speaker 17: was big.

1761
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:18,439
Speaker 3: Yet Yeah, okay, thank you and thanks for being so amenable.

1762
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 3: If you could teach Barry to be as amenable as that,

1763
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 3: life would be a lot easier, wouldn't it.

1764
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:22,360
Speaker 1: Now?

1765
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 5: CO two?

1766
01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:25,599
Speaker 3: What did we find out? What did we find out

1767
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 3: when we shut down the old Marsden Point oil refinery? Whoops?

1768
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 3: Turns out the byproduct CO two is quite handy for

1769
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 3: the old phizzies, isn't it got the same problem over

1770
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:37,679
Speaker 3: in the UK. So they're going to reopen a carbon

1771
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 3: monoxide plant about one hundred million dollars. Gam Gray will

1772
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 3: talk us through it when he's with us in about

1773
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:44,920
Speaker 3: ten minutes time. It's twenty four away from seven. Peter

1774
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 3: Lewis Asia Business Correspondents with us. Hello Peter, Hello, Heather

1775
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:51,800
Speaker 3: Man alive. So what is the oil price doing to

1776
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:53,520
Speaker 3: the Marcus?

1777
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Speaker 25: Hugely volatile every single day since the since the war started.

1778
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 25: We're seeing call breaking volatility. And last night another good

1779
01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 25: example of that, brentwrude oil in New York closed at

1780
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 25: one hundred and eight dollars a bowt. Then moments afterwards,

1781
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 25: Donald Trump made his announcement about extending the deadline for

1782
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:19,879
Speaker 25: a tax on Iranian infrastructure by ten days. Oil plummets

1783
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:22,160
Speaker 25: four dollars in the space of just a few minutes.

1784
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:25,240
Speaker 25: But since then it's made all of that back. Now

1785
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:27,560
Speaker 25: it's almost trading back up at about one hundred and

1786
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:31,600
Speaker 25: eight dollars where it started from. So this is just

1787
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:34,599
Speaker 25: going on every single day at the moment. But there

1788
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:37,840
Speaker 25: are a couple of things that we can reduce right

1789
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:40,280
Speaker 25: now from what's happening in the oil markets. First of all,

1790
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 25: even when it looks like there may be some signs

1791
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:46,919
Speaker 25: of talks being held and some sort of peace agreement

1792
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:51,679
Speaker 25: being reached. Oil still holds now above one hundred dollars,

1793
01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:53,639
Speaker 25: and you have to remember that it wasn't that long ago.

1794
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:56,559
Speaker 25: It was trading about sixty. So it suggests that there

1795
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 25: is a risk premium being baked into the oil price

1796
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:04,040
Speaker 25: and that some long term damage is being done and

1797
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 25: we're not going to see oil prices come back down

1798
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:09,599
Speaker 25: below that level. And the other thing is the oil

1799
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 25: market is in what we call backwidation. Now this is

1800
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 25: a phenomenon where futures where you have near term deliveries

1801
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 25: cost more than the longer dated contracts. That's the wrong

1802
01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:23,719
Speaker 25: way round because normally, if you have to deliver oil

1803
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:26,679
Speaker 25: in say six months time, you've got to pay to

1804
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 25: store it in the meantime, so it costs more. So

1805
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:34,080
Speaker 25: this backwidation means that traders in the markets don't really

1806
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 25: believe that this term oil is going to be over

1807
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:41,360
Speaker 25: any sign anytime soon, and they see it continuing for

1808
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:45,000
Speaker 25: a while. And that's certainly the impression you get when

1809
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:50,840
Speaker 25: you talk to oil executives around the region and shipping executives.

1810
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:54,559
Speaker 25: A couple of consequences of all of this. First of all,

1811
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:57,559
Speaker 25: inflation is going up very fast. We just had a

1812
01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:02,080
Speaker 25: forecast from the OECD yesterday that said that US inflation

1813
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:04,960
Speaker 25: now it expects to go up to four point two

1814
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:09,559
Speaker 25: percent for the G twenty economies overall, for inflation to

1815
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 25: be about four percent, considerably higher than what the central

1816
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:16,639
Speaker 25: banks have been forecasting. And at the same time, global

1817
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:20,880
Speaker 25: growth is going to slow, the OECD forecasting growth to

1818
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 25: slow from three point three percent last year now to

1819
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:28,840
Speaker 25: two point nine percent. Well, that raises the specter of stagflation,

1820
01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:33,680
Speaker 25: where you have high inflation and low growth, and it's

1821
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:37,360
Speaker 25: a nightmare for central banks. The other consequences of this

1822
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:41,720
Speaker 25: is financial markets extremely volatile as well, and there's a

1823
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:46,920
Speaker 25: very simple inverse relationship that's held every single day since

1824
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:51,240
Speaker 25: this started. Oil up, stocks and bonds down, and we've

1825
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 25: seen the reverse happen when oil has slipped. That's the

1826
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 25: days when you see stocks and bonds recover. That's been

1827
01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 25: going on almost every single all days since the war started.

1828
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:05,960
Speaker 3: Now, we obviously know about this fertilizer problem that we've

1829
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 3: got out of the Middle East because we are deeply

1830
01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:09,800
Speaker 3: affected by it as well. But is there anywhere else

1831
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:11,720
Speaker 3: in the world that we can get fertilizer at.

1832
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:15,960
Speaker 25: Short notice, well, it's very difficult. That's governments around the

1833
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:21,720
Speaker 25: world are doing exactly that. They're looking for supplies of fertilizer,

1834
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:26,320
Speaker 25: particularly in the northern hemisphere because we're entering planting seasons,

1835
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 25: so farmers knead your ear phosphates fertilizers as they start to.

1836
01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 1: Plant their crops.

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01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:39,680
Speaker 25: People are buying Venezuelan fertilizer. The US has lifted sanctions

1838
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:45,080
Speaker 25: on Venezuela. There are countries like Russia and China which

1839
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:50,680
Speaker 25: export fertilizer, but they're putting increasing controls on their exports,

1840
01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:54,200
Speaker 25: which is making it harder and harder to get. So

1841
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:57,160
Speaker 25: this is putting a lot of pressure on countries that

1842
01:27:57,280 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 25: do have to buy fertilizer because you're you're competing with

1843
01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:04,680
Speaker 25: other countries around the world who want to buy it.

1844
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:08,599
Speaker 25: At About seventy percent of the world's fertilizer comes through

1845
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:11,479
Speaker 25: the golf right now, as the case maybe doesn't come

1846
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 25: through the golf, so they're turning to alternative sources, but

1847
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 25: not particularly reliable sources. For example, some countries are buying

1848
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:24,919
Speaker 25: fertilizer for Morocco, but whatever happens is this is putting

1849
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:28,200
Speaker 25: a lot of pressure on the price and again this

1850
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:30,400
Speaker 25: is going to be very inflationary.

1851
01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:32,840
Speaker 3: Too, right It is hey as always, Peter, It's good

1852
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 3: to talk to you and we'll check in with you

1853
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:35,599
Speaker 3: again next week and hopefully things are looking a little

1854
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:38,799
Speaker 3: bit better. That's Peter Lewis, our Asia Business correspondent, nineteen

1855
01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:39,559
Speaker 3: away from seven.

1856
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:43,559
Speaker 26: Heather Doula, you probably picked up on this by now,

1857
01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:45,519
Speaker 26: but Artie Yes has confirmed, Yeah, he is going to

1858
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:48,080
Speaker 26: go to England the English Super Rugby League, signed with

1859
01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:51,240
Speaker 26: Wakefield Trinity for two years and Darcy's with us.

1860
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 3: In about nineteen minutes to talk us through all the

1861
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:56,599
Speaker 3: sport of the week and whatnot. Now this is yeah.

1862
01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:59,080
Speaker 3: I don't know if you're aware of this because this

1863
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:00,680
Speaker 3: is not something that I think got a lot of

1864
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:03,040
Speaker 3: coverage around the time of COVID. This is the story

1865
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:06,760
Speaker 3: of Duffy. Duffy is doing a documentary about her kidnap.

1866
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:07,439
Speaker 1: You.

1867
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:10,200
Speaker 3: I reckon this one's going to get big streams because

1868
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:13,280
Speaker 3: the story is just so bloody wild. You'll remember Duffy

1869
01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:15,120
Speaker 3: because Duffy was the one who was really big in

1870
01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:18,160
Speaker 3: the late naughties Welsh singer had the song Mercy You

1871
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:20,840
Speaker 3: got Me Bagging You for Mercy, did an album Rock

1872
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:24,320
Speaker 3: Fairy and was like huge, and then just disappeared, just

1873
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:27,880
Speaker 3: nothing heard from her. And she then re emerged in

1874
01:29:27,960 --> 01:29:30,840
Speaker 3: twenty twenty, so about six years ago, and said what

1875
01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:33,600
Speaker 3: happened was that she was at her birthday party in

1876
01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:35,280
Speaker 3: twenty ten, so she would have been about thirty one

1877
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:37,400
Speaker 3: years old. Nod On, no, twenty six years old. It

1878
01:29:37,439 --> 01:29:40,479
Speaker 3: must have been about twenty six years old, because she's

1879
01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:43,680
Speaker 3: forty one now, and she was drugged, and then she

1880
01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:46,559
Speaker 3: was kidnapped, and she was taken to another country on

1881
01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:48,599
Speaker 3: a plane, and she was put in a hotel room

1882
01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:51,120
Speaker 3: and she was sexually assaulted. And this kidnapping thing went

1883
01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:55,280
Speaker 3: on four days, and after she managed to get out

1884
01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:58,439
Speaker 3: of the situation and obviously get herself to safety. While

1885
01:29:58,479 --> 01:30:00,880
Speaker 3: she might have been physically safe, me until she was

1886
01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:03,479
Speaker 3: really not coping with it well at all, as you

1887
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:06,880
Speaker 3: can imagine. And so for the next ten years she

1888
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:08,759
Speaker 3: basically just retreated into herself.

1889
01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:09,439
Speaker 6: She reckoned.

1890
01:30:09,479 --> 01:30:12,799
Speaker 3: She spent about ten years completely alone, estranged from her family.

1891
01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:16,000
Speaker 3: Relationships broke down all over the show. Initially, she didn't

1892
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:18,519
Speaker 3: want to get in touch with the cops, but somebody

1893
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:21,360
Speaker 3: threatened to out her and tell her story, and so

1894
01:30:21,400 --> 01:30:24,439
Speaker 3: she did then get in touch and go public about it.

1895
01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:28,280
Speaker 3: She reckons the perpetrator is still at large, so she

1896
01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:30,640
Speaker 3: has now she's done some counseling and stuff like that

1897
01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:32,960
Speaker 3: and has decided and she's sort of bit by bit.

1898
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:34,519
Speaker 3: If you've been following it, you'll have seen there have

1899
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:37,120
Speaker 3: been a little bit, just a little bit of information

1900
01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:38,840
Speaker 3: here and there, and talking to some reporters and sort

1901
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:41,080
Speaker 3: of getting bolder and braver about it. Anyway, now she's

1902
01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 3: decided she's going to do a documentary with Disney. Plus

1903
01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:45,160
Speaker 3: they haven't got a release date on it just yet.

1904
01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:46,720
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, I think it doesn't take a

1905
01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:49,000
Speaker 3: rocket scientist to figure out that when that does finally land,

1906
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 3: it's going to be huge. Seventeen away from seven.

1907
01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:56,880
Speaker 2: Everything from SMEs to the big corporates, the Business Hour

1908
01:30:57,040 --> 01:30:59,759
Speaker 2: where they had the duper c Allen and Mas insurance

1909
01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:04,840
Speaker 2: and investments, your futures in good heads US talks, it'd be.

1910
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:08,679
Speaker 3: It seems to be. We're obviously in rate season again,

1911
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:11,000
Speaker 3: so the latest council that's indicated what they're going to

1912
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:14,000
Speaker 3: charge rates, wises in the Cargo City Council proposed to

1913
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:17,200
Speaker 3: seven percent rates increase. Now I don't know if that

1914
01:31:17,240 --> 01:31:19,439
Speaker 3: includes the clock tower or not, because I think that

1915
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:21,400
Speaker 3: is yet to be debated and voted on. I could

1916
01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:24,360
Speaker 3: be completely wrong. It could include the clock tower, but

1917
01:31:24,439 --> 01:31:26,599
Speaker 3: maybe not. Maybe that's on top of the seven percent

1918
01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 3: that they've proposed fourteen away from seven and Gavin Gray,

1919
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:33,040
Speaker 3: a UK correspondents with us Lgavin Hi, they have it.

1920
01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:34,519
Speaker 3: So you guys look like you're going to do it

1921
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:36,760
Speaker 3: pretty tough economically as a result of the Iran War.

1922
01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 27: Yes, the OECD, the Organization of Economic Cooperation and Development,

1923
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:45,160
Speaker 27: has listed the G twenty countries and its latest set

1924
01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:48,960
Speaker 27: of forecasts because of the Iran War. It actually cites

1925
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:52,320
Speaker 27: the UK as suffering the most of any country in

1926
01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:56,040
Speaker 27: the G twenty when it comes to economic growth. Indeed,

1927
01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:59,320
Speaker 27: their forecast has been slashed from one point two percent

1928
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:02,360
Speaker 27: this year to zero point seven percent. As I said,

1929
01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 27: very very lowly. And also it is suggesting that inflation

1930
01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:09,839
Speaker 27: is going to get higher, interest rates will remain higher,

1931
01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:13,120
Speaker 27: and therefore debt repayments on the national debt will also

1932
01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:16,400
Speaker 27: be pretty high too. It's a very very poor outlook,

1933
01:32:16,439 --> 01:32:20,960
Speaker 27: that is for sure, Australia has over two percent growth

1934
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:24,559
Speaker 27: the nearest market to yourselves, so all triple what the

1935
01:32:24,680 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 27: UK is expected to get. So bad news on that front.

1936
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Speaker 27: Another side issue as well from the Iran war this

1937
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Speaker 27: week is the government has just announced it's going to

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Speaker 27: invest some two hundred and twenty million Ausie dollars to

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Speaker 27: reopen a carbon dioxide plant in a contingency plan against

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Speaker 27: a supply disruption issue caused by the war in Iran.

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Speaker 27: And the basically it supplies healthcare products as well as

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Speaker 27: the food industry, and the UK had agreed to deal

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Speaker 27: with the US for the US to supply all the

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Speaker 27: carbon dioxide, but obviously it's beginning to get shaky that

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Speaker 27: it might its own too now.

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Speaker 3: So what is the thinking behind this carbon dioxide plant.

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Speaker 27: Well, it's it was closed down just in September and

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Speaker 27: there was a bit of a fraA at the time

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Speaker 27: with people saying, well, we might need to produce our

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Speaker 27: own carbon dioxide here. It is a byproduct of some processes,

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Speaker 27: particularly the production of fertilizer and so forth. But it's

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Speaker 27: used in packaging to keep food fresh, it's used in

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Speaker 27: fizzy drinks, it's used to stun livestock during slaughter. It

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Speaker 27: is used in lots of different food and pridgingk and also,

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Speaker 27: as I said, by hospitals who need a supply of

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Speaker 27: carbon DIK side. So the idea that the US would

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Speaker 27: suddenly stop supplying us because it said he didn't have

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Speaker 27: enough for its eyes were focused elsewhere because of Iran

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Speaker 27: was very worrying and that's why the UK government has

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Speaker 27: now stepped in.

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Speaker 3: Now, Kevin, do you reckon this pressure on Sarah Ferguson

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Speaker 3: re Epstein is going to bear any fruit?

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Speaker 27: I think it's just another added little thing, isn't it

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Speaker 27: for her to be pressured about? So this is all

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Speaker 27: about a letter that's come from a congressman which is

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Speaker 27: basically saying, Sarah Ferguson, we need your help with trying

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Speaker 27: to find out as much about the late disgraced financier

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Speaker 27: Jeffrey Epstein as possible. And of course in the past

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Speaker 27: both Prince Andrew or Andrew Mountbatten wins as he is

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Speaker 27: now and Sarah Ferguson have said no, got nothing to say,

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Speaker 27: and indeed in this she can't be forced to say anything,

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Speaker 27: but there is going to be I think extended pressure

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Speaker 27: on her now. She's been asked politely by the congressman

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Speaker 27: Sue has supermanion, and he said, look, we think you've

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Speaker 27: got information. You described him as your long lost brother,

1976
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Speaker 27: you offer to marry him in one of your letters.

1977
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Speaker 27: He's given you a lot of money, you took your

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Speaker 27: two daughters to see him when he came out of

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Speaker 27: prison for a sex offense. And while you're at it,

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Speaker 27: not just what you know, but also what you think

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Speaker 27: you know of what your former husband, Prince Andrew might

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Speaker 27: have known. So there's lots in here for them to unpack.

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Speaker 27: But I sense she's probably jan who demure such an

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Speaker 27: invitation to appear.

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Speaker 3: Hey, was this stuff about the young people going back

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Speaker 3: to church not quite up to scratch.

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Speaker 27: No, So, at the end of last year there was

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Speaker 27: a report commissioned by the Bible Society called Quiet Revival.

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Speaker 27: In it, people were surveyed and they said there was

1990
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Speaker 27: a resurgence of young people going to church. In twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 27: just four percent of eighteen to twenty year old survey

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Speaker 27: said that they were Christian and went to church at

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Speaker 27: least once a month. That has risen fourfold by twenty

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Speaker 27: twenty four. According to the report. However, the authors of

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Speaker 27: the report have now retracted it. Why because they say

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Speaker 27: the underlying data is flawed. What do they mean where

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Speaker 27: they said some of the respondents who completed the surveys

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Speaker 27: were fraudulent. In other words, people have been lying on

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Speaker 27: the form saying they went to church because perhaps that

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Speaker 27: was what the surveyor wanted to hear. And the posters

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Speaker 27: are saying they normally have quality control measures in place

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Speaker 27: they usually remove such responses, but that was not applied

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Speaker 27: due to human error, and consequently, a report which was

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Speaker 27: really heralded about young people turning to Jesus here in

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Speaker 27: the UK, all of a sudden has been been saying

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Speaker 27: it's not reliable and it's not good. Interestingly, a little

2007
01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:22,240
Speaker 27: bit of a spat between the commissioners, the Bible Society

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01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:25,519
Speaker 27: and the posters, with the posters saying we've been saying

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Speaker 27: for the Bible Society for some time that this is wrong,

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Speaker 27: but nothing's been done, so actually we are now basically

2011
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Speaker 27: withdrawing that report saying it's not reliable.

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Speaker 3: Interesting dodgery. Yeeskevin, thank you very much. Devin Gray UK corresponding, Hey,

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Speaker 3: by the way, on the IOC ruling on the transgendered women.

2014
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Speaker 3: Interesting point ticks came through saying hither until nineteen ninety nine,

2015
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Speaker 3: all of them, for gthlics underwent cheek swabs to confirm

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Speaker 3: their biological six which is actually true. Going back to

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01:36:52,200 --> 01:36:54,439
Speaker 3: the cheek swabs to make sure the sixers is not

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Speaker 3: actually that controversial because we used to do it. Eis

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Speaker 3: away from seven.

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Speaker 2: powered by News Talk Zibby.

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Speaker 3: Uh here there's someone damaged my vehicle's gas cap in

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Speaker 3: christ Church and drained the tank dry. One hundred and

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Speaker 3: eighty dollars of gas is gone? This wild thing to do,

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Speaker 3: isn't it?

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Speaker 11: Here?

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Speaker 3: The why is Willis running this?

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Speaker 9: Do you know?

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Speaker 3: That is a very good question why? Because then then

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Speaker 3: it goes question mark luxon question mark the reason Nikola

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Speaker 3: Willis is running this? And somebody else takes me earlier

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Speaker 3: and was like, why is the energy minister not running this?

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Speaker 1: The reason?

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Speaker 3: Who is the energy minister?

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Speaker 1: Is it?

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Speaker 3: Simon Watt's.

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Speaker 21: Isn't it?

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Speaker 1: I think it is?

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Speaker 17: Yeah, he's Energy and then Shane Jones's Resources right, how

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Speaker 17: that one works?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's just work process of elimination right see

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Speaker 3: Shane Jones is like sort of running it. But Shane

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Speaker 3: Jones is very hard to take seriously. He's sort of

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Speaker 3: okay for an occasional, you know, flirtation or is this

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Speaker 3: something outrageous, but you don't really want him running your response.

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Speaker 3: Simon Watts, you also don't want him running your response

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Speaker 3: because he's not He's not bad, he's just not like

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Speaker 3: Nikola Willis good and I think you're getting the pint

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Speaker 3: of what I'm painting here, and then lux and as

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Speaker 3: well luxe and stuffed up the original thing. He's not

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Speaker 3: actually that nimble. I actually think the reason Nichola Willis

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Speaker 3: is running it is because she's doing an awesome job

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Speaker 3: of it. Like she's she's just doing a really good job.

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Speaker 3: She's not freaking anyone out. She sounds like she's in control.

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Speaker 3: She's just able to communicate the information pretty well. I

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Speaker 3: think it's as simple as that. By the way, if

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Speaker 3: you like mine sweeper, you're gonna like this one. They've

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Speaker 3: made mine sweeper in the shape of the map of

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01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:30,880
Speaker 3: the Strait of Hormus, so you can go and sweep

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Speaker 3: the straight, so it is sweep the straight dot com

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Speaker 3: I got I reckon I got about a third. It

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Speaker 3: was actually only half concentrating. But I've got a third

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Speaker 3: of the way through, how about you?

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Speaker 17: And I've tried so many times this she was. I

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Speaker 17: was playing with more of my mattbook at home, where

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Speaker 17: the track pad often mistakes a right click for a

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Speaker 17: left click. Well, so normally it's a minor annoyance, but

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Speaker 17: in a game of mine, sweet, yeah, it's a little

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Speaker 17: bit of a problem. I'll get there though, don't you worry.

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Speaker 23: Trump.

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Speaker 17: I'm coming to help Scribe and pe Money stop the

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Speaker 17: music to play us out tonight just too. Yeah, the

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Speaker 17: announcement has come out that Scribe will you playing at

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Speaker 17: halftime off the Crusaders Waratars game at that big super

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Speaker 17: Rugby super Round that they're going to do at the

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Speaker 17: new Stadium in christ Church. That's going to happen over

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Speaker 17: An's that weekend, the twenty fourth to twenty fifth and

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Speaker 17: twenty six to eight for all. If you want a

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Speaker 17: ticket to the game that he's going to be doing

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Speaker 17: the Crusaders Warriors, well good luck because it's sold out

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Speaker 17: so you'll get to fall some stringth.

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Speaker 3: What did I say? But ants This feels to me

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Speaker 3: like it falls in a category of music I'm not

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Speaker 3: sure whether you'd love it or hate it?

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Speaker 11: All right?

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Speaker 5: Do you kidding?

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Speaker 17: This is the best song scribes done. I'm being very

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Speaker 17: cheeky even playing this because he's not in any point

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Speaker 17: from here on out, But it's so good that Pea

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Speaker 17: money production.

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Speaker 3: We found something that we like and ants really likes.

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Speaker 3: There is a point in the then diagram where we

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Speaker 3: all meet up the enjoy a weekend.

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Speaker 21: I'll see it in Monday.

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