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Speaker 1: The newsmakers and the personalities the big names talk to

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Speaker 1: like my Cosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, your local

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Speaker 2: Heead Be William Welcome today. Health New Zealand finds hundreds

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Speaker 2: of millions of dollars in savings, butch Leicester leaves back

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Speaker 2: with us got some good numbers from tourism for you.

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Speaker 2: Singing in Brown and his power stripping act on Auckland

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Speaker 2: Transport Scrutiny Week comes to politics Wednesday and I'm the

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Speaker 2: chief Scrutinier Richard Arnld, Steve Price, they lobby and from

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Speaker 2: offshore as well. Past gig Welcome to the day, seven

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Speaker 2: past six, with apologies to the rest of the country.

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Speaker 2: A quick word, if I might, on the announcement yesterday

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Speaker 2: from the Transport Minister and the Auckland Mayor on the

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Speaker 2: future of Auckland Transport and the desire by the government

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Speaker 2: to strip them of a large chunk of what they do. Firstly,

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Speaker 2: it was close to another announcement of an announcement. First

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Speaker 2: they got to write the legislation, then introduce the legislation,

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Speaker 2: then send it off to a select committee. It is

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Speaker 2: only at that point the next stage of the process starts,

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Speaker 2: and that will take months. The Minister wanted it all

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Speaker 2: up and running and sorted. I think by about two

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Speaker 2: twenty seven. I mean we've got an election before then,

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Speaker 2: for goodness sake. The upside is Auckland Transport gets what

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Speaker 2: was coming to them. Basically, at are arrogant, incompetent, belligerent

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Speaker 2: a fifdom of the worst sort and have got their comeuppance.

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Speaker 2: They have buggered Auckland Transport Wise downside, the power taken

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Speaker 2: from them ends up with the council. The theory is

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Speaker 2: the councilor accountable to the people, which on paper is true.

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Speaker 2: In reality, not a lot of people actually vote, and

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Speaker 2: the people they vote for not all but a lot,

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Speaker 2: be running a lot of important stuff. The proof of

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Speaker 2: that is Auckland and the state of it. It is

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Speaker 2: not a great council, It is not frequented by great people.

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Speaker 2: Hence the idea of an at type operation staff by

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Speaker 2: high performing people who actually bring expertise to a high

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Speaker 2: wire job like transport in the nation's largest city and

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Speaker 2: biggest economy. So neither options really fill you with confidence.

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Speaker 2: Forced were a gun to my head to make a choice,

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Speaker 2: I would go with what the government has decided, but

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Speaker 2: only because at is such an object and obvious failure.

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Speaker 2: Of course, it would be nice to think we all

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Speaker 2: decide that participating in local democracy is a good thing,

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Speaker 2: and maybe, just maybe, if we see a council making

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Speaker 2: bigger and better and bolder decisions, we might like to

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Speaker 2: back that with an increased turnout once every three years.

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Speaker 2: But the overarching listen, and I hope this sinson well

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Speaker 2: beyond Auckland transport to the many other victims of this

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Speaker 2: country who think they know best. If you aren't accountable

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Speaker 2: and you run away with yourself, it might just be

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Speaker 2: they pull a rug out from under you.

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Speaker 1: Who news of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: Right hihdrama and Korea. As the President gives Marshal Law

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Speaker 3: I hereby declare an emergency martial law in order to

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Speaker 3: defend the Free Republic of Korea from the threat of

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Speaker 3: North Korean communist forces and to eradicate the shameless pro

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Speaker 3: North anti state forces that are depriving our people of

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Speaker 3: their freedom and happiness.

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Speaker 2: Didn't last long. The parliamentarians all turned up and voted

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Speaker 2: to lift it. The end of the war. This is Ukraine,

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Speaker 2: where once again the NATO boss is what NATO bosses

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Speaker 2: say a lot these days, is not interested in peace.

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Speaker 4: He's pressing on trying to take more territory because he

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Speaker 4: thinks he can break Ukraine's.

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Speaker 2: He's off and ours, but he's wrong. In Trumpville, he

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Speaker 2: had justin from Canada over for dinner and he came

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Speaker 5: Deell laughed nervously, but Trump then said, look, if Canada

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Speaker 5: becomes a state, you could be the Governor of Canada,

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Speaker 5: but admitted that Prime Minister of Canada is probably a

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Speaker 2: Bunch of stuff. In Britain, firstly, the Queen's canceled yet

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Speaker 2: more engagements, indicating the original illness was not as uneventful

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Speaker 6: It obviously become clear that doctors, because she was suffering

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Speaker 2: On the Greg Wallace messes up into the face of schedule.

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Speaker 7: At the BBC, the current series of Master Chef the

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Speaker 8: I congratulate Jaguar on making a noise.

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Speaker 2: Not just Korea. Andrew Davies. Who's he Well, he won

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Speaker 2: a confidence vote, but then he quit. This is the

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Speaker 2: Conservative leader in the Welsh Parliament, so that it was

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Speaker 2: split too close for him nine to seven. One of

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Speaker 2: the Tories in the Welsh Parliament and he's quit. Before

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Speaker 2: a mess. Fifteen past six now dealing funds management. Greg Smith,

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Speaker 2: morning to you more. If you we'll get into this,

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Speaker 2: deary in the moment, because that's good news and we're

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Speaker 2: all about that meantime, US job openings. What's the seven

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Speaker 10: So yeah, the self economic landing looks on I think.

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Speaker 10: So this is the so called Jolts survey. So seven

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Speaker 10: we yet to see material signs of big pickup and

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Speaker 10: pretty good. The hiring rate did drop to lowes since June,

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Speaker 10: We've actually got the non fun payrolls numbers due this Friday,

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Speaker 10: It's all pretty relevant to the FED. A couple of

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Speaker 10: a pretty good chance of another rate reduction in a

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Speaker 2: Okay, mask, where's he it with his paper? He's battling.

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Speaker 2: This isn't he he's battling.

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Speaker 10: So this The latest saga is that a Delaware judge

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Speaker 10: has denied the reinstatement of his fifty six billion dollar

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Speaker 10: pay package. Recall, this relates to his remuneration in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 10: It was the largest still his largest compensation planned in

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Speaker 10: and they've also actually awarded three undred and forty five

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Speaker 10: So Maskie said the decisions corrupt. Shareholders should control company votes,

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Speaker 10: not judges. And he's gone on again about regretting incorporating

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Speaker 10: UK they're facing a lawsuit of a billion sterling actually

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Speaker 10: Milk, that's right, So yeah, we've got that said. The

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Speaker 10: latest JDT in the exit was up one point two percent.

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Speaker 10: The latest auction that follows gains in the previous who

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Speaker 10: about raising its forecast. Payer and farmers can potentially look

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Speaker 10: Prices for dairy have been on the rise, but also

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Speaker 10: been going down, so that's actually a pretty good equation.

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Speaker 10: So terms of trade up two point four percent, caught

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Speaker 2: The old wool debates is back, this time Kanga Aura,

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Speaker 2: price is the problem. It's thirty four percent cheaper to

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Speaker 13: Well, it's it's a bloody good question and there's no

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Speaker 2: If they came to you, could you match nylon or

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Speaker 13: Well solution died. Nylon and woll are often very comparable

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Speaker 2: dealing in large meterridge, absolutely what would that be worth

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Speaker 13: to us. And let's say I say there's no compromise

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Speaker 2: Next time I get a minister and I'll ask them

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Speaker 2: Greeg appreciate it very much. Greg Smith Bream with chief Executive. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: well task eggccruning myke wallcarpet great, it has poor stone resistance,

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Speaker 2: not ideal for KO homes. That's simply not true. It's

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Speaker 2: absolute crap. I've had wallcarpet my entire life. I'm a

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Speaker 2: big advocate for wallcarpet, and I've spilled stuff all the time,

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Speaker 2: lots of red wine, lots of red wine. And no

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Speaker 2: than me. Mike. Just the fire safety side of wool

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Speaker 2: I was pondering a moment to go higg Seth. Is

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Speaker 2: he a gags two point zero?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: He's got a few issues.

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Speaker 8: Though, as the madness continues from the Capitol here as

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Speaker 8: trump choices for defense and security posts are raising, well

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Speaker 8: a few more questions. Aren't they doing the rounds right now?

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Speaker 8: Is Hecseth the Trump pick for Defense secretary? The biggest

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Speaker 8: military enterprise and existence? Of course, the New Yorker magazine

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Speaker 8: has come out with the disclosure that Pete Higseth was

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Speaker 8: forced out of a couple of leadership roles in two

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Speaker 8: military veterans associations this well, as they say he used

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Speaker 8: money from the organizations to party, including one where he

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Speaker 8: took his staff as to a strip club and had

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Speaker 8: to be restrained apparently from jumping on stage with the

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Speaker 8: dancing strippers. While at another veterans event he got quote

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Speaker 8: totally slashed and had to be literally carried back to

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Speaker 8: his room. Now this in addition to the twenty seventeen

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Speaker 8: sexual assault allegation against him. Then there's the New York

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Speaker 8: Times publication of an email that Hegsy's mother sent to

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Speaker 8: him during this fellow's apparently difficult divorce in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 8: His mum wrote, in part quote, I have no respect

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Speaker 8: for any man that belittles lies, sheets, sleeps around and

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Speaker 8: uses women for his own parent ego. You are that man.

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Speaker 8: End quote. She continued, quote. We are on the side

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Speaker 8: of good and that is not you. We still love you,

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Speaker 8: but we are broken by your behavior and lack of

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Speaker 8: character on behalf of all the women. And I know

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Speaker 8: it's many you have abused in some way. I say,

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Speaker 8: get some help. In quote his mum now is backing

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Speaker 8: away from this. Now has become public and says she

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Speaker 8: retracted her remarks. A day later, she insists, so the

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Speaker 8: senators looking into his confirmation can assessful of that. Meantime,

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Speaker 8: Cash Betel, whom Trump has chosen to head the ear BI,

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Speaker 8: with its enormous police powers, has been calling for top

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Speaker 8: FBI officials to be fired unless they are loyal to

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Speaker 8: the incoming president. In his twenty twenty three book entitled

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Speaker 8: Government Gangsters, he also includes an enemy's list. There are

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Speaker 8: sixty names of folks whom he calls members of the

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Speaker 8: deep state. So he has this list, including the names

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Speaker 8: of the outgoing president Joe Biden, Vpcumway Harrison. On the

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Speaker 8: Battel enemies list is Bill Barr, transformer Attorney General now

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Speaker 8: a Trump critic. John Bolton, a former National security advisor

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Speaker 8: under Trump now also a critic many lower level national

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Speaker 8: security figures and Chris Ray, the current FBI director, So

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Speaker 8: it seems his confirmation hearings ahead going to be pretty interesting.

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Speaker 13: Right.

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Speaker 2: So now one of your high drama stories, Richard woman, Yep,

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Speaker 2: no breaks lake. Yeah, take at what to do?

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Speaker 9: Right?

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Speaker 8: This is all pretty amazing. This woman in Illinois was

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Speaker 8: driving in the early morning hours in his small town

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Speaker 8: as the south of Chicago breaks faiut she found herself

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Speaker 8: in a runaway car heading for a freezing lake. She

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Speaker 8: had the wherewithal who would be able to do this.

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Speaker 8: She was able to call police emergency and.

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Speaker 13: Need my brakes won't stop, my car won't stop, my

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Speaker 13: brakes aren't working.

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Speaker 8: Yeah. If she went into the fridgid like her chances

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Speaker 8: of getting out would be slim. So it is something

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Speaker 8: that with all this going on, she was sounding at

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Speaker 8: times relatively come.

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Speaker 14: I'm twenty weeks perty.

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Speaker 8: I cannot die today, Yeah, twenty weeks pregnant. The police

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Speaker 8: operator also remained relatively cool for it all.

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Speaker 12: You need to turn now, I'm scared.

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Speaker 15: Turn right at the next road.

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Speaker 16: Okay.

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Speaker 12: If you don't turn, you're gonna go into a lake.

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Speaker 17: We need you to turn okay.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 8: That's when highway police arrived and there was only one

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Speaker 8: thing to do. One of the police guys moved in

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Speaker 8: front of this woman's vehicle, so they backed.

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Speaker 2: Into the thing.

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Speaker 16: I'm gonna hit him.

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Speaker 13: Boom.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't mean to.

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Speaker 8: This was the plan, of course, the only way to

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Speaker 8: save her life, police said, spray out to make sure

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Speaker 8: she was fine.

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Speaker 5: Ran up to that vehicle to make sure that it

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Speaker 5: was in park and that the driver was okay.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, she's good. The two cars a bit deaded, but

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Speaker 8: right place, right time for this police intervenure.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic see I Friday mate Richard Arnold state. So she

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Speaker 2: wasn't quite as calm by the individual, was she really

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Speaker 2: when you think about it. By the way, Gavin Newsom,

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Speaker 2: he's called a special legislative session. This is in californiaa

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Speaker 2: to safeguard California from potential federal overreach. So what they're

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Speaker 2: doing is creating a new litigation fund of up to

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Speaker 2: twenty five million to support California's legal resources in anticipation

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Speaker 2: of policy proposals that would harm the state. And you

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Speaker 2: know what he's talking about. Of course. Meantime, Ontario while

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Speaker 2: Justin's been down at marri Lago having dinner with Donald Ontario,

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Speaker 2: which is the biggest trading part of Canada. With the

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Speaker 2: United States worried about these twenty five percent tariffs led

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Speaker 2: by Doug Ford. It's like a family member stabbing you

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Speaker 2: right in the heart, he said. Anyway, they they've got

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Speaker 2: about half a billion dollars worth of trade. Anyway, They've

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Speaker 2: launched an ad campaign, which is there's going to be

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Speaker 2: signs at Washington, the airports, They're going to be on billboards,

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Speaker 2: going to feature on Fox Sport apps in key states,

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Speaker 2: Run America advertised during the Football League games and on

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Speaker 2: Fox News advertising the fact that you don't want to

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Speaker 2: put tariff's on Canadian goods. I'm just not sure. I Mean,

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Speaker 2: I love advertising and all that sort of stuff, but

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure you're going to change Trump's mind with

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Speaker 2: an ad campaign. Turn Away from seven on.

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Speaker 1: My cost Gel Breakfast with Alveda, Retirement, Communities News togs

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Speaker 1: dead Be.

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Speaker 2: Remind me to talk to Rod about this tomorrow. This

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Speaker 2: fury in Britain overnight, they've counted that, I reckon, there

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Speaker 2: must be when labor governments like Australia, New Zealand and

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Speaker 2: Britain get to power. They've obviously got a singular book

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Speaker 2: they look too to how to run the country because

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Speaker 2: they've set up sixty seven this is Starma, sixty seven

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Speaker 2: taxpayer funded reviews in one hundred and fifty days, basically

553
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Speaker 2: a review every second day. Now where does that remind you? Hey?

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Speaker 2: What does that remind you of? By the way, Scrutiny

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Speaker 2: Week has been under way, I hope you've been following it.

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Speaker 2: Fascinating week. Nichola Willis was in front of the Finance

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Speaker 2: Committee yesterday. She came out with the information that come

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Speaker 2: the next budget in May, and I'm very pleas to

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Speaker 2: hear us we might be getting a new approach to charities.

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Speaker 2: Because there's nothing wrong with charities of the real charities

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Speaker 2: in terms of tax treatment. But there are a few

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Speaker 2: people that and no names, but there's a few people

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Speaker 2: in this country that you think, are you really a charity? Honestly,

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Speaker 2: you're honestly a charity. There we come to Air New

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Speaker 2: Zealand just in time for the Christmas season to piss

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Speaker 2: you off. So what they're doing is they're cutting back

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Speaker 2: on their domestic services yet again. Now under normal circumstances.

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Speaker 2: What happens is they go, well, we've got no engines

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Speaker 2: and we've got no planes, and so you go, well,

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Speaker 2: that's not very good. But nevertheless, this has got nothing

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Speaker 2: to do with that this time. It's got to do

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Speaker 2: with lack of demand. So under normal circumstances you go,

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Speaker 2: fair enough, if no one wants to fly, then you know,

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Speaker 2: why put a plane in the air. But of course

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Speaker 2: we've got this unfortunate set of circumstances in this country

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Speaker 2: where we don't have quite enough airlines to bring in

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Speaker 2: real competition. So there is that ongoing belief, rightly or wrongly,

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Speaker 2: that Air New Zealand might be just dominating that domestic

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Speaker 2: mark a wee bit much and a little bit too

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Speaker 2: much control. Therefore they can jurymander the prices to suit

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Speaker 2: their circumstances and therefore by pulling back in certain markets

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Speaker 2: and certain services. They say two percent of the schedule.

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Speaker 2: This is between February and June. So it depends on

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Speaker 2: where you are and where you're flying and what you're paying.

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Speaker 2: But it's it's the old you know, there's a certain

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Speaker 2: angst anyway about it in New Zealand at the best

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Speaker 2: of times and those sort of announcements come to Christmas season,

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Speaker 2: don't really go down that well do they five minutes

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Speaker 2: away from seven.

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Speaker 9: Well, the ins and the ouse.

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Speaker 1: It's the biz. With business fiber, take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next level.

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Speaker 2: I am in the business of good news though, because

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Speaker 2: we've had the good news this morning from the dairy sector.

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Speaker 2: That auction result was a nice one this morning. Got

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Speaker 2: good news later from the tourism sector. That's very good

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Speaker 2: news actually, so I'm looking forward to that. But we've

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Speaker 2: also got some optimism. According to the prosper Sme Insight report,

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Speaker 2: it's found this morning fifty one percent of smeth say

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Speaker 2: that this season's very important for their business for the year. Well,

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Speaker 2: that's hardly a surprised. With forty three percent they expect

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Speaker 2: the season to be better than last year. There you

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Speaker 2: go needs to be. Half of all SMEs only have

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Speaker 2: a quarter's worth of expenses covered by cash reserves before

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Speaker 2: they're dipping into more debt seventeen percent, so they only

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Speaker 2: got a month's worth of cash reserves. Some concerns, what

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Speaker 2: have we got holiday period? Biggest issue is staff Thirty

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Speaker 2: six percent worried they won't have enough staff to reach demand.

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Speaker 2: Seventeen percent are worried about generating the customer demand to

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Speaker 2: justify the staff. So that's your egging, your checking and

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Speaker 2: your checking in your egg, isn't it. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: I'm going to employ O'Brian over there, but I need

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Speaker 2: the customers once I'm paying Brian. But then the customers

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Speaker 2: come in. But you didn't employ Brian. So what do

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Speaker 2: you do? Ay trials and tribulations of being a smeeth

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Speaker 2: So fifty two percent feel pressured. Now this is interesting. Inside.

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Speaker 2: Fifty two percent feel pressure to offer sales or discount

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Speaker 2: pricing to remain competitive. But we have optimism. Sixty two

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Speaker 2: percent feel positive about their business and the current health

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Speaker 2: sixty two percent.

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Speaker 17: That's good.

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Speaker 2: Fifty six percent are feeling good about their business over

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Speaker 2: the next twelve months. Very good done. I can't remember

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Speaker 2: the name of the company. I think RP Hell does

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Speaker 2: that name? Ring A Bell ape L does that name?

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Speaker 2: They do? Fragrance local fragrance company. They close down on

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Speaker 2: Good Friday. And this goes back to my six hundred

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Speaker 2: dollars bottle of wine that I got so much grief

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Speaker 2: of over the other day. What I was trying to

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Speaker 2: say and what they did brilliantly. They closed their website

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Speaker 2: down on Friday, on Black Friday, and they said, what

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Speaker 2: we want you to do is spend with intent. In

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Speaker 2: other words, work out what you really want and spend

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Speaker 2: with intent. Don't just buy crap for the sake of

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Speaker 2: buying craps sake. And so they closed down their website.

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Speaker 2: So next Black Friday, I'm closing down the show because

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking to myself, listen with intent. Don't just listen

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Speaker 2: to the bits you want, Listen with intent. So anyway,

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Speaker 2: they came to my rescue sort off. Couldn't stop everybody,

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Speaker 2: given their grief about it, they I can only try

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Speaker 2: Lester Levy. Now there's a man with a job. We'll

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Speaker 2: talk to him after the news, which is.

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Speaker 1: Next big news Bold opinions the MYC Hosking breakfast with

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Speaker 1: the range Rover villa designed to intrigue.

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Speaker 2: You can use togs bring Seven past seven, So good

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Speaker 2: news from Health New Zealand. Still ugly, but it ain't

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Speaker 2: as ugly as it was. The one point seven six

648
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Speaker 2: billion dollar deficit has been revised down to one point one.

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Speaker 2: The target, though, of returning to budget, has been pushed

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Speaker 2: back a year to mid twenty seven, Health New Zealan

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Speaker 2: Commissioner Lester Levy back with us. Morning to you, morning, MIKEE.

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Speaker 2: Is the six hundred ish million so far proof it

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Speaker 2: can be done and this is progress?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 17: I think it is progress definitely. The issue, really, Mike,

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Speaker 17: is that the time that it actually takes to arrange

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Speaker 17: the cost out and that's the main reason for the

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Speaker 17: rephasing over three years. In the first year a lot

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Speaker 17: of the work gets done, the majority of the work actually,

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Speaker 17: but do you find the savings really mainly fall into

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Speaker 17: the following year, the twenty five twenty six year, so

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Speaker 17: it's still the same amount. The aim is still to

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Speaker 17: get to zero deficit, but this will take three years rather.

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Speaker 2: Than two two. Are you present this morning with more clarity?

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Speaker 2: In other words, you can say with confidence it will

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Speaker 2: be done or not.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, well, you know it's always difficult to say with

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Speaker 17: absolute confidence. But right at the moment, you know, it

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Speaker 17: depending if nothing else happens. That's significant, you know, that's unexpected. Yeah,

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Speaker 17: I think that's very confident that we will get the

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Speaker 17: deficit down to zero. Yeah, very confident about that. I

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Speaker 17: guess the main issue for us is that's a temporary

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Speaker 17: and fixable problem. What we're really putting our attention to

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Speaker 17: is the real problem, and that is the long waiting

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Speaker 17: times for patients. Yeah, that's really what we have to fix, of.

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Speaker 2: Course, and so the big question is can you do

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Speaker 2: that with the money that you are allocated once you

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Speaker 2: get back to budget.

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Speaker 17: Yes, we believe we can. You know, we've got a

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Speaker 17: six point four percent uplift. Unlike most other public organized sessions,

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Speaker 17: we have that in place for the next two years,

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Speaker 17: so we've got a three year track. Yeah, it's quite

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Speaker 17: difficult because there's a lot of change in the organization.

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Speaker 17: There's a lot of change about the organization's culture and

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Speaker 17: the way in which it works, which we're working on.

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Speaker 17: But yeah, within our current resources, there is very significant

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Speaker 17: opportunity and potential to do a lot more.

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Speaker 2: How much difficulty are you facing with the public messaging

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Speaker 2: given there are so many stories out there. You're underfunded,

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Speaker 2: nurses can't get jobs, the waiting lines are a disaster.

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Speaker 2: Hospitals or a shambles, nurses are on strike. It just

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Speaker 2: paints an overall picture of chaos, whether the result not.

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Speaker 17: I don't think it is chaos, but I think there

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Speaker 17: is a lot happening, and of course in healthcare there

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Speaker 17: are and always have been, different vested interests and different messages.

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Speaker 17: I think that the key important messages funding hasas and

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Speaker 17: continues to increase, and on an international comparative basis, we're

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Speaker 17: in a very good position. There's been a recent article

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Speaker 17: in the New England General Medicine that actually clearly shows.

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Speaker 2: That we're above a number of other countries that we

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Speaker 2: might be surprised about.

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Speaker 17: Indeed countries that are wealthier than ours. So I think

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Speaker 17: the issue for us, and it's not often thought about,

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Speaker 17: is it's not the funding we get, but it's also

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Speaker 17: the efficiency and effectiveness with which we allocate that funding

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Speaker 17: within our organization. And we're doing a lot to change that.

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Speaker 17: We want to bring more of our resources to be

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Speaker 17: more proximal to the outcomes that we're actually looking for,

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Speaker 17: primarily waiting time reduction. This will require productivity, which hasn't

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Speaker 17: been a focus for the organization. There is more we

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Speaker 17: can do with the resources we have, so one can do.

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Speaker 2: That as you well for the Christmas season. Lester Lester Levy,

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Speaker 2: the Health New Zealand Commissioner with us this morning. I

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Speaker 2: tend to agree. I was going to put it to them,

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Speaker 2: but I'm I'm not going to ask Lester why they

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Speaker 2: continue to underfund health. There is no deficit, just chronic underfunding.

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Speaker 2: It's simply not true. The Prime Minister's right when he

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Speaker 2: says thirty billion dollars for a country of five million

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Speaker 2: people is more than enough. The key, as he said,

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Speaker 2: is not the amount of money, it's how you spend it.

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Speaker 2: Eleven past seven TH's some good news from the tourism sector.

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Speaker 2: Boy do we need that. In the year to September,

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Speaker 2: visitor numbers up seventeen percent. The key here though, is

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Speaker 2: the spend spend is up thirty percent, So we brought

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Speaker 2: in eleven point seven billion, So that's good. Surely Tourism

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Speaker 2: holding Stuke executive Grant Websters back whether it's Grant very,

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Speaker 2: good morning to you.

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Speaker 18: And good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Are you seeing it hi?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 18: Absolutely, In New Zellan you are seeing both those stats

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Speaker 18: come through really strongly. I think of note that visitor

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Speaker 18: spend when you adjusted for inflation, clearly it's around the

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Speaker 18: same as as psited numbers, so around that's sort of

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Speaker 18: eighty five percent to pre COVID levels.

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Speaker 2: So we're still not cracking one hundred do you see

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Speaker 2: us getting back to do we need to get back

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Speaker 2: to because every time I talk to a minute that

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Speaker 2: they go, oh, don't worry about that, and talk about

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Speaker 2: the quality. It's all about the quality.

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Speaker 18: Look, we have the ability of the infrastructure, and clearly

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Speaker 18: when you see that growth in total GDP and that

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Speaker 18: export earnings to New Zealand, it makes sense for us

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Speaker 18: to continue to focus on getting back to one hundred

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Speaker 18: percent and beyond. I mean we can manage it. We

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Speaker 18: can manage it more effectively than we did pre COVID

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Speaker 18: as well, so we've got more digital capability, we've got

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Speaker 18: better companies doing more things.

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Speaker 2: What do you see as a handbreak? I mean some

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Speaker 2: would argue capacity, the number of airlines and seats isn't

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Speaker 2: quite back. Is that it is an image problem?

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Speaker 13: What is.

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Speaker 18: I think we're actually still suffering from opening late. I

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Speaker 18: think that's part of it. Then on top of that, yes,

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Speaker 18: when you look at that growth rate calendar twenty five,

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Speaker 18: I think is going to be a bit of a

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Speaker 18: struggle because we've got that airline capacity issue. We've obviously

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Speaker 18: got the barriers put up by the government this year

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Speaker 18: with increasing the OVL and visa costs and so forth.

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Speaker 18: So we've actually now got to get back up and

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Speaker 18: say twenty twenty sticks is where we're really going to

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Speaker 18: get our marke shareback on class.

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Speaker 2: Actually you're talking about general economy in that sense, because

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Speaker 2: the banks are saying exactly the same thing. Next year

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Speaker 2: is a grind. Twenty six is where the growth comes.

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Speaker 2: So tourism aligns with the economy if you like.

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Speaker 18: Oh look, I think yes, But for those different reasons,

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Speaker 18: we haven't got that their capacity. We've put up these barriers.

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Speaker 18: So we've got to get back on the world stage.

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Speaker 18: And you know, there's still some talk around about Tourism

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Speaker 18: New Zealand having reduced funding, which in my mind's just idiotic.

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Speaker 18: We we we give Team Zed less per capita and

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Speaker 18: per GDP than any of our main competitors. We've got

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Speaker 18: to refocus on growth and pleadingly, the Tourism Minister has

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Speaker 18: said he's launched a tourism growth roadmap that's going to

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Speaker 18: come out next year.

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Speaker 2: Good time to hear it, good good, good, all right, Gruant,

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Speaker 2: go well, Grant Webster, Tourism holding the sun. See you

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Speaker 2: oh thirteen minutes past seven past like I heard you

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Speaker 2: say this morning, they found gas. Megan Wood said there

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Speaker 2: was no gas to find exactly. Mike, mate, why isn't

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Speaker 2: it a big story? We found two just the I

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Speaker 2: will repeat if you weren't on the program before seven o'clock,

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Speaker 2: We've found a gas amount of gas that adds two

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Speaker 2: to three percent of everything we need in this country.

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Speaker 2: Surely that's a big deal, Mike ree in New Zealand downturns,

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Speaker 2: probably due to their horrendous bloody pricing. I knew you'd

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Speaker 2: say that, Mike. Do you have any information about South Korea?

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Speaker 9: Yes?

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Speaker 13: I do.

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Speaker 2: President went Nuts declared martial law. Politicians turned up, voted

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Speaker 2: to bail it. Now there's a whole lot of people

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Speaker 2: standing outside Parliament milling around. You got to remember it's

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Speaker 2: the middle of the night. Fourteen past seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: So Mean Brown Transport Minister after seven thirty, Mark and

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Speaker 2: Jinny after eight o'clock this morning, seventeen past seven. Now

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Speaker 2: you would have seen sever rees yesterday, of course, very apologetic,

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Speaker 2: having been discharged without conviction following a post Cup Day party.

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Speaker 2: He was initially facing a couple of charges of intentional

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Speaker 2: damage taking a card dishonestly without claim. One charge was

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Speaker 2: dropped in New Zealand Planers Association boss Rob Nichols with

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Speaker 2: this morning, Good Body Mine. I think it's important to

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Speaker 2: point out, isn't it. In this case the judge said

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Speaker 2: any one would have been treated the same way, so

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Speaker 2: he didn't get a special deal because of who he is.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, and look, at some point we've all got to

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Speaker 16: step back and trust judicial system. But it is interesting

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Speaker 16: whether it's a rugby player or another person with a

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Speaker 16: high profile, as they're involved in an incident that ultimately

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Speaker 16: needs police to intervene. You know, there's an intensity and

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Speaker 16: scrutiny on the police to get it right. So that

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Speaker 16: tends to mean that they're definitely hold to account and

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Speaker 16: put before the courts when they do go before the courts.

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Speaker 16: Because of the attention, we find the courts are pretty

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Speaker 16: good about name suppression, to allow people to gather themselves,

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Speaker 16: get me good advice, take stock of the situation. And

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Speaker 16: then as the process goes on. There's a very high

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Speaker 16: threshold put against people with profile and for them to

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Speaker 16: get a discharge without conviction, they have to demonstrate a

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Speaker 16: lot to the court. Probably more than a normal person,

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Speaker 16: but that's part of the package.

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Speaker 2: Do you argue with these guys that if they ever

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Speaker 2: end up in the situation he did, that you don't

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Speaker 2: chase down name suppression in other words, trying to hide

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Speaker 2: from it. Is there an instruction there or not?

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Speaker 19: There's no instruction.

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Speaker 16: I mean, it's very much about the individual person getting

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Speaker 16: their own legal advice. But by large our approach, to

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Speaker 16: be perfectly honest is normally have you stuffed up here

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Speaker 16: or not? Because if you did our expectation as you

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Speaker 16: own it, and in owning it, yes, you've got to

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Speaker 16: get your advice and initial name suppression, which the courts

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Speaker 16: are pretty good at granting, just because of the media

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Speaker 16: scrutiny not just on the person of profile that's involved,

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Speaker 16: but also on the victim or complainants in these situations.

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Speaker 16: You know, often when these things come before the courts,

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Speaker 16: everyone needs a bit of time to gather themselves and

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Speaker 16: having the whole country, in some cases the world aware

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Speaker 16: of it doesn't help anyone. So the courts are pretty

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Speaker 16: good about that side of it. But we're very much

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Speaker 16: about if you didn't do it, and you're going to defend,

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Speaker 16: then fair call. But if you did do it, you know,

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Speaker 16: the way in which you approach it, the way you

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Speaker 16: own the situation, the way you demonstrate to everyone, including

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Speaker 16: the victims and complainants, that you have recognized your stuffed

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Speaker 16: up and you take positive stemps. And if the court

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Speaker 16: sees that that tends to help. But it doesn't matter

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Speaker 16: whether you're a personal profile or not. But I'll tell

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Speaker 16: you what discharge without conviction that you're still all over

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Speaker 16: the TV, You're all over the media. I don't think

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Speaker 16: there's a ciston in the country that won't know what's

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Speaker 16: taking place here and that that brings a level of

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Speaker 16: accountability on their actions. You know, Sivu's stopped drinking, he's

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Speaker 16: you know, he's taken a lot of steps and shown

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Speaker 16: actually really good growth over the last year and a half.

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Speaker 16: So whilst I have a lot of empathy for the

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Speaker 16: victims in the situation, it's also actually a good thing

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Speaker 16: for him in terms of the steps he's taken. And

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Speaker 16: I guess that's what we want from our judicial system, right.

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Speaker 2: I think, so, Okay, I appreciate it. Rob Nickeol out

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Speaker 2: gift giving a breeze, and a much cheaper one of

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Speaker 2: that too. So head and store or online pick up

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Speaker 2: Britney Spears Fantasy Midnight one hundred mil DP only thirty

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Speaker 2: two ninety nine. They've got the unbeatable prices on the classics.

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Speaker 2: The Kelvin client ck won two hundred mills for just

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Speaker 2: forty nine ninety nine. Favorite DC ten signature. This is

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Speaker 2: Dan Carter of course, one hundred mills DT only thirty

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Speaker 2: nine to ninety nine. Grabbed the Fragrance gift that everyone's

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Speaker 2: talking about Nassis Rodriguez for her one hundred mills DP

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Speaker 2: three piece set just one hundred and twenty nine to

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Speaker 2: ninety nine. While you're in store or browsing online, you

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Speaker 2: don't want to forget to check out the huge Chemists

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Speaker 2: Warehouse range of vitamins, baby essentials, beauty, cosmetic, skincare and

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Speaker 2: why not grab something for yourself a Chemist's Warehouse. They're

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Speaker 2: offering an extra ten percent off all gift and toys.

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Speaker 2: It's for goodness sake. Until the twenty fourth of December.

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Speaker 2: A chemist warehouse, great savings every day and you stop

885
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Speaker 2: paying too much the chemist's warehouse PASKI twenty four. So

886
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 2: from our it worked fine, even though many didn't think

887
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 2: it would file. Two things. Thing number one those benefits sanctions,

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00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 2: the hand ringers argued, were unfair and not nice. Turns out,

889
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 2: virtually no one's hit red. Remember that green, orange red.

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00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 2: All the government ever asked in introducing them was you

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00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 2: do you bet? You are not sanctioned for not having

892
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 2: a job. You are sanctioned for not trying. Virtually everyone

893
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Speaker 2: is doing their bit. One percent are on red. Now

894
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 2: those are the ones you can't help. They don't want help,

895
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Speaker 2: they don't want to work, they don't want to contribute.

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Speaker 2: That's on them. Most interesting thing, by the way, the

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Speaker 2: Prime Minister said Monday as they announced their new support

898
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Speaker 2: program for those looking for work, is in many cases

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Speaker 2: we're down to the nitty gritty. The current rate of

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Speaker 2: unemployment a bit under five percent, isn't actually that high historically,

901
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,720
Speaker 2: Mostly if you lose your job, you go get another one.

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00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 2: So as moving town reasonable, I mean the answer is yes.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you're sixty two spent your whole life

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Speaker 2: in a small town. I guess maybe not, but I

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Speaker 2: noted with interest when those mills in the Central North

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Speaker 2: Island closed, a lot of people instantly said they're off

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Speaker 2: to Australia. I mean a lot of people generally have

908
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Speaker 2: been off to Australia lately. So moving for lifestyle or

909
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 2: work isn't clearly a major hurdle. So why would we

910
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 2: think it would be one to find a job locally?

911
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 2: Simple truth as you either want to work or you don't.

912
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 2: You're either driven or you aren't. So some sanctions the

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Speaker 2: thread of akck in the pants not really the end

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Speaker 2: of the world that it was made out to be.

915
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 2: Is it second to Papa charging tourists? This was bad news?

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Speaker 2: Apparently we would put people off Apparently seven hundred and

917
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Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars in tickets in two months, pretty much

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Speaker 2: exactly the name of a number of tickets they thought

919
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 2: they would. They're now filling a funding gap by letting

920
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 2: people know, especially internationals, nothing's free. So once again, not

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Speaker 2: really the end of the world. My guess is the

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Speaker 2: new entry fee to come into the country that'll be

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Speaker 2: the same prices went up. End of the world a

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Speaker 2: price to end of the national parks will be the

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Speaker 2: same start charging end of the world. The cost of

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Speaker 2: a visa will be the same. Price went up. Oh,

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Speaker 2: they won't come. We need to break the mentality that

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Speaker 2: the government, I, EU and me pay for everything. It

929
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Speaker 2: isn't real, but it is a habit. What is real.

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Speaker 2: There is a few rules and a few charges are

931
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Speaker 2: only an impediment if you think they are pasking. Very

932
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Speaker 2: very good read if you want to get into it.

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Speaker 2: Gregor Paul yesterday on Rugby in General would have gone

934
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Speaker 2: there with Rob if I had time. But you know

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Speaker 2: what he's like. It does not lack revenue, who writes,

936
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Speaker 2: but it has a dangerously out of control cost management problem.

937
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Speaker 2: So they're caught up in a culture, he argues of

938
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Speaker 2: excessive pay. Annual accounts show the number of executives on

939
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Speaker 2: the payroll jump from nine to thirteen. Their total remuneration

940
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Speaker 2: went from four to six million dollars. Now per person

941
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Speaker 2: it's four hundred and forty four thousand dollars up to

942
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Speaker 2: four hundred and sixty seven thousand dollars. Yet New Zealand

943
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Speaker 2: Rugby posted a significant financial loss, so you pay them

944
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Speaker 2: more to earn less. Now is that how it works

945
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Speaker 2: in the real world. No, it doesn't. The total amount

946
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Speaker 2: paid to board directors almost doubled increase came mostly from

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Speaker 2: the New Zealand Rugby Commercial which is NZRC. That's the

948
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Speaker 2: separate company set up to manage the game's commercial assets.

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Speaker 2: So the interesting thing about that they got a couple

950
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Speaker 2: of people who are on the board plus on the

951
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Speaker 2: commercial side of the equation. Double dipping. What's that about?

952
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Speaker 2: Somebody at Bailey Mackie and Dame Patsy Ready, she hasn't

953
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 2: clearly gone yet. So anyway, I'm not against paying for

954
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Speaker 2: people a lot of dough. I love paying people a

955
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Speaker 2: lot of dough. Pay them more if they're any good.

956
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Speaker 2: But hold on, you've got to come to the party

957
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Speaker 2: with the goods, don't you. And they're not coming to

958
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Speaker 2: the party with the goods. Read the whole thing. It's

959
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Speaker 2: a very very good insight and a very good ring.

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Speaker 2: Swimming and brown and kicking at to touch? How does

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Speaker 2: this work? How long will it take? Will it actually

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Speaker 2: improve anything?

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Speaker 1: Demanding the answers from the decision makers, the mic asking

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Speaker 1: breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, your local experts across residential,

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Speaker 1: commercial and rural news togsdead.

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Speaker 2: Beats Mitchel Ginny Anderson after write a Clock Politics Wednesday

967
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Speaker 2: at twenty three minutes away from a to Grand All

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Speaker 2: Day in Auckland is one of the city's more disliked operations.

969
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 2: Auckland Transport got a fair bit of power taken off

970
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Speaker 2: them and it will be transferred back to the council.

971
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Speaker 2: We need some laws passed to make it all happen,

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Speaker 2: and that is the job of the Transport. Then it's

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Speaker 2: the Simming and Brown who is with us? Morning?

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Speaker 20: Good morning mine?

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Speaker 2: Did they? And I watched the co I watched the

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Speaker 2: press conference live yesterday, so I know your answer. But

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Speaker 2: helped me out a little bit here when you went

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Speaker 2: to them at and said this is happening one. It

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Speaker 2: can't have been a surprise, but did did they arc

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Speaker 2: up a bit?

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Speaker 20: I think the reality is this is this is a

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Speaker 20: conversation which has been going on to some time and

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Speaker 20: they spoke to the CE. He was very tended to

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Speaker 20: work with us how we implement this make sure it

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Speaker 20: works well. Our job now is to get the legislation

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Speaker 20: drafted in the House through Parliament and then implement it

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00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,919
Speaker 20: for Auckland. To make sure that Auckland does have more,

988
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Speaker 20: will have democratic accountability over decisions made in the city

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00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 20: which affect their daily lives.

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Speaker 2: That was the part that I was disappointed. And why

991
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 2: is this so slow? You're going to draw the legislation up,

992
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 2: put it and send it off to select committees taking forever.

993
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 20: Well, that's that is parliamentary process, so that does take time.

994
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 20: But today's about sending very key message around the decisions

995
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 20: that have been made. We've got a busy legislative agenda

996
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 20: as a government, so going through Parliament next year and

997
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 20: then it'll be up to the new council elected next

998
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 20: in the next year to implement it.

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00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 2: What was the was the weak point that at was

1000
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 2: so useless? Would you have still done it no matter

1001
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 2: how good were or not.

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00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 20: I think the key thing here is every other region

1003
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:08,439
Speaker 20: across New Zealand, decisions around who approves the regional land

1004
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 20: transport plan, the road controlling authority, those decisions sit with

1005
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 20: elected members. In Auckland, it does not, So this is

1006
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 20: actually a principal decision to restore democracy to those decisions

1007
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 20: and allow Aucklanders if they don't like the fact that

1008
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Speaker 20: their local board or their counselors are removing some car

1009
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,959
Speaker 20: parks to put in a cycle way they can vote

1010
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 20: them out. At the moment, they don't have that ability.

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00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 20: It's Barkeley messages. As Aucklanders aren't happy with the decisions

1012
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 20: that have made. They all know who's responsible and we

1013
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 20: have a hold them to account for those decisions.

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00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 2: So the disappoints. So I agree with that concept. But

1015
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 2: the disappointing part is what about all the dumpty doos

1016
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 2: on the local board who rightly or wrongly you elect

1017
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 2: idiots in general. And so you've got people who are

1018
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 2: now with tremendous power in their hands, and they may

1019
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 2: or may not be up to it.

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00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,919
Speaker 20: Well, the problem is these people haven't had power, don't

1021
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 20: just been there to be sort of an advocacy kind

1022
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 20: of body which just go around advocating for things they like.

1023
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 20: Now they're going to have power, and now the local

1024
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 20: people who vote for them will know who to blame

1025
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 20: for decisions in their local community and directly hold them

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Speaker 20: to account. And I encourage people to put their names

1027
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Speaker 20: forward and I encourage people to make sure they hold

1028
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Speaker 20: these people to account. At the moment, they don't have

1029
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 20: that ability in that power in Auckland. We're restoring it

1030
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 20: and putting it in local people's hands.

1031
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 2: Understand that, but how variable will it be and how

1032
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 2: much individual and specific power do they have because a

1033
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 2: local board out west is not a local board down

1034
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Speaker 2: south or out east or up north. In Alton, it's

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Speaker 2: a big sittrect Yeah.

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Speaker 20: So one of the key things will be there'll be

1037
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Speaker 20: some parts of the road controlling authority which will have

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00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 20: a regional impact.

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Speaker 18: So for example, key routes.

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00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 20: Obviously those decisions need be made at a regional level,

1041
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 20: so that will be done by the duvn'ty body. What

1042
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 20: happened on a local street with some local shops and

1043
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 20: the car parks outside it. Ultimately that's a local decision

1044
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 20: that should be pushed down to the local board. So

1045
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 20: that's actually the principle already set in the Local Government

1046
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 20: Act for Auckland. It just hasn't been implemented. And this

1047
00:48:58,280 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 20: is going to formalize that into legislation.

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00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 2: All right, good to talk to you appreciate it. I

1049
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 2: mean Brown Transport Minister with us this morning, nineteen minutes

1050
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Speaker 2: away from eight posty, can we get the calm competent

1051
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,439
Speaker 2: Lester Levy to explain to Chris Hopkins government's rapacious tax

1052
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 2: and spend policies are a very bad idea, Mike, simply refreshing,

1053
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 2: isn't it? Yes, Andy, he is a lot of people

1054
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Speaker 2: seem to like Lester leaving Solar zero. I've been doing

1055
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Speaker 2: a lot of reading because the first thing I wanted

1056
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Speaker 2: to know when Solar zero fell over the other day

1057
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 2: was is it Solar that's the problem or is it

1058
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 2: an individual company that just wasn't doing well? So another word,

1059
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 2: solar is a general concept is fine, And it's taken

1060
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Speaker 2: several days to get to the conclusion, but I think

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Speaker 2: we might have some answers more shortly. Nineteen two, the.

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Speaker 1: Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News.

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Speaker 2: Talks it be we're at sixteen to nine? Are sixteen

1064
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Speaker 2: to eight? Rather great questions? Mike, how is at better?

1065
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Speaker 2: Giving decision making?

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Speaker 9: Too?

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Speaker 2: Numpties? That is my I mean, there's no elegant, real solution.

1068
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 2: There's no obvious black white right wrong here. You're taking

1069
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Speaker 2: the power off a bunch of idiots and power freaks

1070
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Speaker 2: and giving it in some cases, not all, but in

1071
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Speaker 2: some cases to incompetence. And that's my great concern, and

1072
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Speaker 2: I challenge you name me three people on your local board.

1073
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Speaker 2: You wouldn't have a clue. Most people don't even vote right.

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Speaker 2: Solar zero five hundred and ninety eight unsecured creditors who

1075
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Speaker 2: are owed about thirty five million. At this stage, it's

1076
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Speaker 2: unknown if there are any funds available to make those payments.

1077
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,280
Speaker 2: So black Rock were into it. They paid one hundred

1078
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Speaker 2: and ten million from the founders of the company back

1079
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Speaker 2: in mid twenty two. The deal required overseas investment approval.

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00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:40,919
Speaker 2: They got it because it was over one hundred million dollars.

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00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 2: Since the acquisition, black Rock hasn't injected of a further one

1082
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty seven million, so they're in the whole

1083
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 2: the turn of fifty million dollars. Hence they called the

1084
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 2: plant because they've done the numbers and it's not working

1085
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 2: for them. The ministers is where we are involved, are

1086
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 2: the New Zealand Green Fund, the Investment Bank, which is

1087
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 2: at quote unquote arms length from the government, but nevertheless

1088
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 2: it is our money. They've thrown one hundred and fifteen

1089
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 2: million at it. So the chances are from what you've

1090
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 2: just heard me say, I E. They've got nothing left

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00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 2: when we're going to burn that. So that's unfortunate. My

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00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 2: understanding here's the quote. My understanding is the business model

1093
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 2: they were running required significant funding and then the time

1094
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 2: when funding has been relatively expensive. This is Adrian Or Again,

1095
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,399
Speaker 2: of course it does call the business model into question.

1096
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 2: So in other words, the business model didn't work. So

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00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:31,240
Speaker 2: a lot of questions here. They pulled the plug because

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00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,280
Speaker 2: it realized solar in New Zealand is a tough, barely

1099
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 2: profitable business. Now this is my real concern. I feel

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00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 2: sorry for the company and all the people who are

1101
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 2: owed money, but this is my overarching concern. And dare

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00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 2: I suggest I could reintroduce the topic of nuclear back

1103
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:49,240
Speaker 2: into the conversation here, because if solar is a quote

1104
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 2: barely profitable business, why the hell are we going down

1105
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 2: that track? Because otherwise it just becomes a charity. So, yes,

1106
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 2: it's renewable, fantastic, But if you can't make any money

1107
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 2: and no one wants to make any money because they

1108
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 2: can't make any money, then how are you going to

1109
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 2: get New Zealand on solar? So this is from a

1110
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 2: guy called John Harmon who runs another company called Lightface Solar.

1111
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 2: Lightface Solar was twenty percent down on its budget, lowered

1112
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,720
Speaker 2: its prices, laid off ten staff in the last two months.

1113
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 2: No one in the industry is making money at all.

1114
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 2: So we're chasing a dream ie renewable energy with a

1115
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 2: model that doesn't pay. You can't make money. No one

1116
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 2: is making money. Some are making less than no money.

1117
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 2: And the government's and the hold to the channel O

1118
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 2: fifteen million dollars. Glenn, give me one of my special stinks,

1119
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 2: because I'm in the mood for one of those. Asking

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00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 2: Hello brings me to Jaguar. So Jaguar did the ads

1121
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 2: the other day and they were out there. There's no

1122
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 2: question about that. They weren't personally to my taste, but

1123
00:52:56,160 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 2: then they're only ads. So what they need to do

1124
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 2: is reinvent themselves. What they are doing is reinventing themselves.

1125
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 2: And Elon Musk, who's a hot head and an idiot,

1126
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 2: came out immediately and he gaves, do you sell cars?

1127
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 2: And I thought, oh, yeah, he doesn't get what's happening here.

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Speaker 2: So what's happening here is you launch the campaign, you

1129
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 2: get people talking now right or wrong? Did people talk?

1130
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 2: You bet their talk? Name me the last campaign globally

1131
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 2: for a car or indeed, anything that created the sort

1132
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 2: of noise that Jaguar managed to create the other day,

1133
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 2: and there hasn't been one for.

1134
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 12: A rugg who the buggeraad?

1135
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 2: Yeah it could be, but it's a long time ago,

1136
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 2: Glenn Boomer, right. So then they come up with a

1137
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 2: car as of yesterday, the Type zero zero. So this

1138
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 2: is where I think we're dealing with potentially a stroke

1139
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 2: of sheer genius, because the car, to my eye, actually,

1140
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 2: let me give you a real critics answer. My wife said,

1141
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 2: and I quote, I want the pink one. Now, this

1142
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 2: is not a woman who is in love with cars,

1143
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 2: interested in cars, erroll. But when a woman sits down

1144
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 2: and sees and goes, I want the pink one. And

1145
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 2: she was referring to the car head. By the way,

1146
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 2: you're in the car itself.

1147
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 12: Look look it up.

1148
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 2: I'm sorry now that was you, not may. I was

1149
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 2: doing it cleanly. Have a look at the car itself.

1150
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 2: It's beautiful and it looks very much like the Rollsworth

1151
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 2: Specter did in concept form. The picture you look at

1152
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 2: will not be what the car looks like in the

1153
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 2: real world, for fairly obvious reasons. That's how the car

1154
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 2: industry works. But you got the ad, you got the car.

1155
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 2: The car is going to become a reality. It's got

1156
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 2: the hype, it's got the noise, it's done essentially everything.

1157
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 2: In so far as you heard Richard Hammond say earlier on,

1158
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 2: he likes what they're doing. He likes the look of

1159
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 2: the car. It might well just be in a couple

1160
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 2: of years time. They were way brighter than most people

1161
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 2: saw them, which is good. I wish them well. Ten

1162
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 2: minutes away from.

1163
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 1: A costume breakfasts with the range.

1164
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 2: Rover of the line, Mike, it looks like Lady Penelope's

1165
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 2: car or the Thunderbirds, only right, not the similar eight

1166
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 2: minutes away from it? Are they using artificial intelligence in

1167
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 2: the meat industry? So Alliance has launched this new tech

1168
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 2: for farmers who can see the eating quality of their

1169
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 2: lamb and beef through AI in real time. These are

1170
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 2: special probes. They analyze fat and lamb and marbling and

1171
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 2: beef anyway. The Alliance group CEO Willie Bess will this

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00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 2: will eat morning to you.

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Speaker 21: I'm Mike morning, thanks for thanks for having me.

1174
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 2: Not at all a probe already exists. I mean there

1175
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 2: are probes all over the place. What does the AI

1176
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 2: bit do?

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00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:32,919
Speaker 21: So what the aim would do us more than link

1178
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 21: to genetics and then the predictability of performance of livestock

1179
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 21: unit performance, specifically lamb and beef, and that's where where

1180
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:45,280
Speaker 21: the algorithms run and it used machine learning to better predict.

1181
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 21: We have also test and validated the outcomes of that

1182
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:54,720
Speaker 21: level of prediction versus with wet chemistry test. So initially

1183
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 21: it was when we initially launched this, the initial view

1184
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,760
Speaker 21: was how do we ensure that we can manage eating

1185
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:05,720
Speaker 21: experience in a consistent way. So it's done that working

1186
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 21: with ac Research and asked me in Australia. It's been

1187
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 21: a twelve month twelve month project that's been delivered. The

1188
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 21: next bit is how do we provide our farmers with

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00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 21: information so they can make behind the gate decisions to

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00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 21: get better value. First of all, so it wasn't initially

1191
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 21: linked to genetics because the farmers know what genetics and

1192
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 21: they already using and what parts of the farm and

1193
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 21: what their farming systems is. So we've seen significant improvement already.

1194
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 21: But we've also seen really crossbreed lamps outperforming our whole

1195
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 21: host of other genetic lamps, and that's on farm practice.

1196
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 21: So there's a combination of that, then we've moved more

1197
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 21: into the AI around how do we provide farmers with

1198
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 21: a predictable outcome because obviously there's editory genetic transition which

1199
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Speaker 21: is roughly around fifty percent as they grow their flocks,

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Speaker 21: So how do we predict the performance of that and

1201
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 21: therefore how does the farmer better budget how does the

1202
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 21: farmer better predict a return based on Because what we

1203
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 21: do in alliance, which is in a lot of cases

1204
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 21: different to some other processes, we have two key components

1205
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 21: that we look at for in how we reward our farmers.

1206
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 21: The one is rewarding for quality and this is specifically

1207
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 21: the yield performance that we measure. So we measure lean

1208
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 21: meat yield with obviously scanning technology that's on the one axis.

1209
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 21: On the other axises the intramuscular fat that is done

1210
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 21: through the probes, and then for beef we also use

1211
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 21: a camera after twelve hours of chilling to actually validate

1212
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 21: the information and to provide additional information. So that was

1213
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 21: the first but so on that we created a sweet

1214
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 21: spot to say the lands that has got operate within

1215
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 21: these lean meat yield parameters and that operate within this

1216
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 21: intramuscular fat parameter that is the sweet spot that go

1217
00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:00,959
Speaker 21: into our handpicked premium program or our luminar program, which

1218
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 21: is separate from your normal baseline baseline LAMB products. And

1219
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 21: it's in that that we then track that we track

1220
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 21: it to the region. We can compare farmers and how

1221
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 21: they perform relative to their region.

1222
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 13: We can see how they perform relative to the.

1223
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 21: National averages as well, and that information our farmers are

1224
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 21: Platinum Royal farmers. They can access it through a farmer

1225
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 21: portal and they can see that straight after primary processing

1226
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 21: after them spin killed.

1227
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Speaker 2: That's cutting edge. I love it, Willie, Thanks for the insight.

1228
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 2: I appreciate it very much. Willy Visa, who's the Alliance

1229
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 2: Group CEO? Four minutes away from eight skiing? That's a

1230
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 2: good example of good AI, isn't it.

1231
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 9: Mike?

1232
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 2: The new Jaguar is supposed to be five meters long?

1233
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 2: How and where will you park it? And you see,

1234
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 2: this is the interesting thing. I was talking to Ryan

1235
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 2: Bridge about this. Ryan knows just to let you and

1236
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 2: he knows nothing about cars, so he said, what do

1237
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 2: you make of this? And so I had to explain

1238
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 2: all this to him. Do you realize that five meters

1239
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 2: is not actually a big car. A rain drove is

1240
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 2: actually longer. A Rolls Royce is longer. Most big su

1241
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 2: visa longer five meters. They're about five point two sometimes

1242
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 2: five point three meters long, even five point one meters.

1243
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 2: So it's not a huge car. It's a large car,

1244
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 2: but it's not a huge car. So in asking where

1245
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 2: would you park a Jaguar, where do you park a

1246
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 2: range Rover, you park it in the same place because

1247
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 2: a rain rod is actually longer. You see what I'm saying.

1248
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 2: So it looks and that's the interesting thing. I reckon

1249
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 2: people and looking at that picture are going to go, jeez,

1250
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 2: that looks gargantuan because it does look tank like, But

1251
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 2: in reality it won't be nearly as big. It'll be

1252
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 2: the something like think of a Bentley Continental. Have a

1253
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 2: look at that that It'll be about that size car

1254
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 2: and there's plenty of those. Mark and Ginny we'll do

1255
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 2: politics Wednesday for us after the news, which is next

1256
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 2: here a news talk Zippy.

1257
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: Your trusted source for news and fuse the Mic Hosking

1258
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: Breakfast with al Vida, Retirement, Communities, Life your Way, News talks,

1259
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Speaker 1: Hea'd be this world, Mam Hey.

1260
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 22: Roman seven day If as well as a mine. I'd

1261
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 22: take you a jeans and middlemos. If there's well as mine,

1262
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 22: I take your hand of amusing fun and do something today.

1263
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 2: I'm a big Kendred Lamar fam. I'm not into this

1264
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 2: sort of music generally, but he's I think, genuinely clever.

1265
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 2: So he's got some West Coast scorches here. I don't

1266
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 2: say West Coast scorches. This is a surprise sixth set.

1267
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 2: We weren't expecting this. Apparently this is lightning in a bottle.

1268
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 2: Jack Kentsonov's there, Lil Wayne snoop snoops everywhere. You're getting

1269
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 2: sick of snoop snoop, but comes too much snoop.

1270
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 12: You can't really get sick of snoop?

1271
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 2: You reckon? Is he that call? I got sick of

1272
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 2: them in Paris at the Olympics. I thought, come on,

1273
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 2: it's ridiculous. Have you seen the documentary Martha Stuart speaking

1274
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 2: of Snoop? Do you want to see that? I saw

1275
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 2: the promar got put off it scissors. There got a

1276
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 2: lot of people and they've got thirteen tracks. No, we

1277
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 2: haven't got twelve tracks and forty four minutes worth of

1278
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 2: Kendrick Lamar it is eight minutes past eight. It is

1279
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 2: time for politics Wednesday, Marke Mitchell, Ginny Ander, some morning

1280
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 2: to you, Jenney Scrutiny weak. I think last year came

1281
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:23,439
Speaker 2: on this program and spoke glowingly of it. Does year

1282
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:24,959
Speaker 2: two live up to plan?

1283
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 14: I've only had one day yet, so a bit early

1284
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 14: out the gates. But if we were able to invite

1285
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 14: ministers to the Justice Committee, so in the opposition we

1286
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 14: wanted to invite Minister of Police Nicole McKees, Firearms Goldsmith Justice,

1287
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 14: we didn't get the opportunity to invite any of those ministers,

1288
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 14: so it's a bit of a fizzer out the gates already.

1289
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 2: So I watched some of the financial stuff yesterday. It

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Speaker 2: seemed just a lot of back and forth bitching. Is

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Speaker 2: that all that goes on?

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Speaker 14: Well, it's important to hold them accountable. If people are

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Speaker 14: saying things that aren't true, then they need to front

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Speaker 14: up and explain where they got their numbers from. And

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Speaker 14: so with health, it's pretty shaky ground that you're trying

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Speaker 14: to basically manufacture a crisis and you've got newses on

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Speaker 14: strike already in pay rounds, so it's not looking pretty

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Speaker 14: for the health set.

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Speaker 2: What do you think of scrutiny week generally?

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Speaker 9: Mate, I think it's good.

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Speaker 23: I think it's another way of you know, I was

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Speaker 23: obviously having scrutiny and transparency around what agencies are doing.

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Speaker 23: All the chief executives are a period in front of

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Speaker 23: the committee. It's no different between labor and government. I've

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Speaker 23: appeared in front of the committee, I will do again,

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Speaker 23: and I'm appearing in front of the one of the committees.

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Speaker 9: This week in emergency measuement.

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Speaker 23: I think it's like I said, I just think we've

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Speaker 23: had but we've got one of the most transparence systems

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Speaker 23: and we should keep improving that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the conference Jinny over the weekend, Isaac has they'd

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Speaker 2: a beautiful location.

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Speaker 9: Beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fantastic. This business of tax How is it

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Speaker 2: We built up to it last week, going mate, you

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Speaker 2: know we're going to have a talk about it, going

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Speaker 2: to have a vote on it, and then it's still

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Speaker 2: we're not talking about it anymore.

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Speaker 14: Well, maybe your colleagues in the media could explain that

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Speaker 14: because we were always going to have a discussion. We

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Speaker 14: did have that discussion, and we've opted to take a

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Speaker 14: good look at those two options and do some further work.

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Speaker 2: So you voted to go forward with the idea.

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Speaker 14: We're going to take a further look at both capital

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Speaker 14: gains and wealth text.

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Speaker 2: Do the work on it, Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 14: Collect So there's a bunch of things in there, whether

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Speaker 14: it's realized or unrealized, is in terms of where it

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Speaker 14: would sit, what areas it would kept her, what are

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Speaker 14: the flow on effects of either? So all those analysises

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Speaker 14: have to be done before you can come out of

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Speaker 14: the gate and stuff.

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Speaker 2: What about the charities thing that came out of the

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Speaker 2: Nicola Willis yesterday and scrutiny we're speaking, which she says

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Speaker 2: she might treat charities differently. You'd go along with that,

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Speaker 2: wouldn't you.

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Speaker 14: Well, I think you have to be cautious about how

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Speaker 14: it was structured. I know Nichola Willis is scrambling to

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Speaker 14: find additional fund so there will be some sneaky taxes

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Speaker 14: that she'll be looking to do. So I would be

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Speaker 14: dubious to see if this is one of those.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what do you reckon?

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Speaker 13: Mark?

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Speaker 2: I mean, would you are you in favor of changing

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Speaker 2: the tax on charities?

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Speaker 23: The only one that does sneaky things around Texas is

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Speaker 23: labor They are desperately trying to ford.

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Speaker 9: The tobacco dudes.

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Speaker 14: That's pretty snaky.

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Speaker 23: They desperately trying to find ways of texting Kiwi's more.

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Speaker 23: They're not convicted. They want Kiwis to sort of say,

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Speaker 23: oh ye, no, no, we're up for that instead of

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Speaker 23: just living by the convictions.

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Speaker 9: If they want to text the country more, just come

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Speaker 9: out and do it.

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Speaker 23: And instead of talking about it all the time, look

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Speaker 23: at and in terms of other textas it's entirely up

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Speaker 23: to Nicholas she is doing. Here is an awful economy

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Speaker 23: with bonfires everywhere, and we've been working flat out for

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Speaker 23: a year to get those damp and down, get them

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Speaker 23: sorted out.

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Speaker 9: And when we're will and check on doing that.

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Speaker 2: All right, listen, just hold on there. Come back in

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Speaker 2: a couple of moments. So Politics Wednesday, Mike Mitchell, Jinny Anderson,

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Speaker 2: twelve past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeart Radio,

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Speaker 1: How the News Talks.

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Speaker 2: It Be Talks. There'll be fourteen minutes past eight Politics Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: are Mike Mitchell, Jinny Anderson might.

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Speaker 23: Just really cut the I'm sorry this is random because

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Speaker 23: we're coming up to Christmas. You are right, I promised, well,

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Speaker 23: I promised the Otara Community Corrections Team.

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Speaker 2: Like a cash callers. I mean, what are we doing?

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Speaker 23: They say, are huge Mike Hoskins fans and they asked

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Speaker 23: me to do it, and I said, he doesn't like

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Speaker 23: me doing this sort of stuff, but because it's.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. You're right, Genny, I do love it.

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Speaker 2: So sorry. So who is the Otara what?

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Speaker 23: It's the o Tara Community Corrections Team. They do an

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Speaker 23: outstanding jewelry on public safety. I was with them last

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Speaker 23: week and they said, please please can you can you

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Speaker 23: give us a share that we love Moight Hoskins?

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Speaker 2: No, that's lovely. Now will you thank them very much

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01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 2: for me? Who have you met this week? Jenny? That

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Speaker 2: loves me?

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Speaker 14: Who have I met?

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Speaker 2: Well, there would have been a lot of people at

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Speaker 2: the Isaac Hayes.

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Speaker 9: Can I say?

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Speaker 14: The real secret is that my mum is warming up

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Speaker 14: to you, believe it or not. I mean, I come

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Speaker 14: from a strong socialist family and my mom's starting to

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01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 14: listen to you. So you know you've got like ros.

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Speaker 2: I slowly one at a time. Mark, what's your what's

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Speaker 2: your what's your mother's name? Jenny, Trisha, Trisia and hellth

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Speaker 2: in West Aalkland, PA. Tricia of west Auckland. How old

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Speaker 2: is she.

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Speaker 14: Without She's over seventy five.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that exciting that that at that stage of life

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Speaker 2: you can come to a realization that perhaps you've been

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Speaker 2: wrong all those years.

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Speaker 14: Dad, you haven't got dad? Sorry, okay, but.

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Speaker 2: I think I think I've taken it from this, ye Jinny,

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Speaker 2: I think you're a bit of a listen to the

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01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 2: program reluctantly, aren't you.

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01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 14: Yeah, I listen.

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Speaker 21: You know.

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Speaker 14: I think it's a good way of staying connected to

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Speaker 14: the range of views. And I've always been the belief

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01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 14: that if you surround yourself with the same views as

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Speaker 14: everyone that you believe in all the time, that makes

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01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 14: you pretty boring. So you need to challenge yourself and

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Speaker 14: understand what other people's points.

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Speaker 2: Of view are there. You go, hey, Mark, would you move?

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Speaker 2: Do you think it is fair? Because I don't think

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Speaker 2: we've got a definitive answer this week from Louise or

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Speaker 2: the Prime Minster. Is it acceptable to have to move

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Speaker 2: town to find a job?

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Speaker 23: Um? Look, it depends on how much you want that job.

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Speaker 2: And look, yeah, but what the states sanction you if

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Speaker 2: they say? Look, mate, you're here in the middle of nowhere,

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Speaker 2: small town, five hundred people, the mills closed down, the

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Speaker 2: road one hundred miles is work. You got to go.

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Speaker 23: Look, that's a really that's a difficult I know. When

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Speaker 23: I joined the police, I didn't have a choice. So

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Speaker 23: I had to go where they needed me and where

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Speaker 23: the work was.

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Speaker 9: And so that a lot of that is around personal choice.

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Speaker 9: It's a really difficult one part.

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Speaker 23: So I think that Look, in terms of the mill,

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Speaker 23: I asked the police and said, look, get in and

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Speaker 23: do a recruiting drive at that and can lead because

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Speaker 23: those people are shift workers, are hard workers, they've got

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Speaker 23: a great work ethic. They'd make great police officers. So

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Speaker 23: I am listening to this. We're recruiting, come and sign up.

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Speaker 2: What about you, Ginny, I mean, obviously under your government

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Speaker 2: you didn't do it. Are you open to it?

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Speaker 9: Well?

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Speaker 14: I think I lived on Great Barrier Island when I

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01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:36,479
Speaker 14: was young, and I remember a time after we moved

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Speaker 14: off the island that I think I'm pretty sure it's

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Speaker 14: international that they just stopped paying an employment benefit there

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01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 14: because if there wasn't employment the year and so a

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Speaker 14: lot of people did move out over that time, and

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Speaker 14: so I think it has been done in the past.

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Speaker 14: How strictly it's enforced is the question, because how do

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Speaker 14: you engauge how many jobs are there in the town

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Speaker 14: when there could be an opportunity if someone sticks around,

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Speaker 14: And then you have to wigh the cost to the

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Speaker 14: taxpayer and the social cost of shifting house, taking kids

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Speaker 14: out of school, all of the social fragmentation that happens

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Speaker 14: off the back of that. So that needs to be

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Speaker 14: weighed up as well.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Ginny, just quickly at the council what happened yesterday,

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Speaker 2: broadly for it or not?

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Speaker 14: Well, I just have to see, Like the problem is

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Speaker 14: consistency if you've got local boards making individual decisions about

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Speaker 14: where things go. In terms of transport, I mean, I

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Speaker 14: thought the whole point of a supercity was to have

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Speaker 14: coordination right across au Cli Metro. So the riskers that

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Speaker 14: you fragment it and don't have a single standard, I.

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Speaker 2: Tend to agree, Mark, can you do us a favor?

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Speaker 13: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so kaying Aura didn't even look at wall carpet.

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Speaker 2: They're gone with the nylon. The wall people said. The

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Speaker 2: wall people said they could compete on price. I thought

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Speaker 2: you were they were under instruction to support local product,

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Speaker 2: get some wall in some houses. Can you find out

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Speaker 2: what the hell's going on there?

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Speaker 9: I'll go and find out for You's go.

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Speaker 2: And talk that program anyway. Listen, you go well for Christmas,

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Speaker 2: and thank you for the year, and we'll look for

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Speaker 2: to your company in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 14: Thank you, Mike, thank you for having us both.

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Speaker 2: No worries it all. You go well, both of you.

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Speaker 2: Mark Mitchell, Ginny Anderson eight nineteen The.

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Speaker 2: eight twenty three, Mike, is it fear to move towns

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Speaker 2: for a job? If I didn't have a job, I'd

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Speaker 2: go anywhere to feed my family in most would if

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Speaker 2: there were no benefits available. I think most people, Dave

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Speaker 2: would agree with you. I left school Mike at seventeen,

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Speaker 2: moved from Tarong to Wellington by myself, booked into the

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Speaker 2: YWCA Willis Street and got a retail job. I'm female,

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Speaker 2: were well done you. I did something similar. I mean

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Speaker 2: when I applied for a job and it started working

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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty two. I was sixteen years old and the

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01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 2: job that was available to me wasn't Wellington. I was

1507
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:41,719
Speaker 2: in christ You to no point did it even occur

1508
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 2: to me ever occur to me that I wouldn't move

1509
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 2: to Wellington. It was just where the job was. I

1510
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 2: wanted a job and there it was. Bang, I was off, Mike.

1511
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 2: Is it incredible that a year after being obliterated in

1512
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 2: the election, Labour's vision to re election as more taxes

1513
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 2: when they wasted billions of increased revenue. It's going to

1514
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:58,640
Speaker 2: be really really interesting in the campaign twenty six if

1515
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 2: the economies going well and the current coalition have got

1516
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 2: things broadly under control, and the optimism's up a bit,

1517
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:07,680
Speaker 2: and the big pole where we think the country is

1518
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 2: going generally in the right direction of all those attracking well,

1519
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:13,679
Speaker 2: and then the opposition comes to the frame going, hey us,

1520
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 2: the Greens and the Maori Party would like to form

1521
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 2: a government. And one of the things we would like

1522
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 2: to do after the election has charge you more by

1523
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 2: way of tax. I'm going to be fascinated to see

1524
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 2: how that goes. And I can tell you I know

1525
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 2: how it's going to go, but it's going to be

1526
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 2: fascinated to watch it. Might move from Gismond to christ

1527
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 2: Church doubled Massalary husband doesn't have to work any more

1528
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 2: life changing. There you go. It can't go wrong. A

1529
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:36,680
Speaker 2: lot of people going to christ jute though, Nick, how

1530
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:38,600
Speaker 2: many people shift countries to work? That was what I

1531
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 2: was trying to say earlier on. What fascinated me out

1532
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 2: of this whole conversation this week and all the whining

1533
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 2: that went on when the announcement was made on Monday,

1534
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:49,679
Speaker 2: is there seems to be no shortage of people who

1535
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 2: are more than happy to leave the country, which is

1536
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 2: kind of a separate story in itself because it's depressing,

1537
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 2: But there seems to be no shortage of people have

1538
01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 2: more than happy to leave the country to go to

1539
01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:01,599
Speaker 2: places like Australia. But all of a sudden, the idea

1540
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:03,720
Speaker 2: that you might have to just wander down the road

1541
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 2: a bit if you want a continued level of government

1542
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 2: supports all too much. Isn't that interesting, Mike. I've moved

1543
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 2: around New Zealand chasing work. It's better to move and

1544
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 2: be employed than stay unemployed. Couldn't agree more, Mike. She

1545
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 2: said she listened. She doesn't tell you she likes you. Well,

1546
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 2: n any of people listen to this program don't like me.

1547
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 12: Yeah, some people say that they're never listening again every

1548
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 12: single day.

1549
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:23,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, the number of people if I had a dollar

1550
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 2: for every person who said that's it. I'm off I'd

1551
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:28,440
Speaker 2: have a lot of dollars.

1552
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 12: And then and then do you make another dollar in

1553
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 12: the next day they say the same thing again.

1554
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:35,160
Speaker 2: Exactly Mike, we finally get FM Dunedin and now you're

1555
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 2: going on holiday. What a bloody tease. Well, no, don't

1556
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 2: be like that. I see this as a long term

1557
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 2: investment because this has been a sustained, long term campaign

1558
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 2: of mine in Dnedin to get FM into the area.

1559
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 2: And so we'll be back next year of the year

1560
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 2: after the year. I mean, this is a this is

1561
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:51,439
Speaker 2: a twenty five to thirty year project of mine, so

1562
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 2: will be here for a very very long time.

1563
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:57,599
Speaker 12: And trust me, you really only want hosking and full

1564
01:12:57,880 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 12: surround sound in small doses.

1565
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 2: Once I think that it's my gift to Dunedin, because

1566
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:05,639
Speaker 2: once you get me an FM, even though you love

1567
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 2: me in am, you'll be thinking, oh my.

1568
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 12: Lord, it's like having the concentrated dishwash liquid instead of

1569
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:16,240
Speaker 12: the exactly what it is, the weak stuff. So although

1570
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 12: the bottle looks smaller, it actually goes further.

1571
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:21,640
Speaker 2: You're getting more bang for back, aren't you. The unemployment

1572
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 2: forecast Interestingly enough from S and P Global came out

1573
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 2: yesterday for this country. And this goes back to the

1574
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:29,919
Speaker 2: economy electioneer all that sort of stuff. So US Ratings Agency,

1575
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 2: this is their Asia Pacific economic outlook. They're thinking five

1576
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 2: point three. So glass half full, glass half empty because

1577
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 2: the headline this is from newsroom and they tend to

1578
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 2: be a bit doer. Unemployment to hit pandemic level highs

1579
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five, so they come up with a

1580
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 2: forecast of five point three. They say, we're going to

1581
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 2: be one of the worst in the Asia Pacific region,

1582
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 2: which technically is correct. We are the only other country

1583
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 2: that's right up there in terms of unemployment next year

1584
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:57,479
Speaker 2: with US is China, and I don't think anyone wants

1585
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 2: to compare themselves to China economically at the moment, Indonesia's

1586
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 2: going to be at fire, but if you go to

1587
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 2: a place like Singapore, it's one point nine. But anyway,

1588
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 2: here's the point. It wasn't that long ago. In fact,

1589
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:08,680
Speaker 2: it was only a couple of months ago that some

1590
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 2: of the banks, at least one of the banks was

1591
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 2: forecasting six six percent as an unemployment rate. Then it

1592
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 2: came back to five point five, and you'll notice the

1593
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 2: other day that it came back from the Reserve Bank

1594
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 2: to five point two. And that's as bad as it gets. Now.

1595
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 2: Five point two is as bad as it gets. Of

1596
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:25,560
Speaker 2: all the bad things that have happened to the economy,

1597
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:30,799
Speaker 2: unemployment won't be one of them. The house market didn't

1598
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:33,880
Speaker 2: crash and tens of thousands didn't lose the jobs the

1599
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 2: way we thought. So that's glass half fall for He

1600
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:38,480
Speaker 2: was in a couple of moments when we crossed the Tasman.

1601
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 1: Talk with Steve Rice, setting the news agenda and digging

1602
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:46,679
Speaker 1: into the issues. The mic Hosking breakfast with the range

1603
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 1: Rover villa designed to intrigue and use tog dad.

1604
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:51,640
Speaker 2: B Here we go, Mike at nineteen and the mid

1605
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 2: nineties in England, I had a crap job as a

1606
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 2: dropped out of school when I was sixteen. I got

1607
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 2: the chance for a good one. But in Germany, no internet,

1608
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 2: no cell phone, no credit card is there wasn't then.

1609
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 2: It was terrifying, but I did it. I then went

1610
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 2: round the world working. Did okay, if you make excuses,

1611
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:07,639
Speaker 2: you'll go nowhere. Good text, Mike. My husband was made

1612
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 2: redundant in twenty fifteen in Australia. So we moved here

1613
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 2: to New Zealand, love, but no plans to go back. Mike,

1614
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 2: you make your own luck, but to many many people

1615
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 2: think luck is something that's given. Jeff, well done, twenty

1616
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 2: three minutes away from.

1617
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 1: That international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of

1618
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business.

1619
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 2: And going to speak fast morning to you mate.

1620
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:28,640
Speaker 19: Yes, it's good to be with.

1621
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 2: What happens to this group you told us about on

1622
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:35,840
Speaker 2: Monday that they said don't do Australia Day And it's

1623
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:38,559
Speaker 2: a large group. It's two hundred odd pubs around the place,

1624
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 2: and they would have an hrred apartment. They would have

1625
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 2: groups of people who sit around a boardroom thinking about

1626
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:45,679
Speaker 2: these things. What do you reckon? Happens in those meetings

1627
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 2: and nobody at any point goes this has got trouble

1628
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 2: written all over it. Guys, let's not go there and

1629
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 2: yet look like it.

1630
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 19: You would think. I mean, I'm writing a column right now,

1631
01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 19: I haven't finished it yet about exactly who's the marketing

1632
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:03,719
Speaker 19: genius who sat in that meeting and said this would

1633
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 19: be a good idea if we announced this. I mean,

1634
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:08,680
Speaker 19: you can do it without even telling anyone you just

1635
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 19: don't have major celebrations in your hotels if you don't

1636
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:14,559
Speaker 19: want to. But why would you come out and announce it.

1637
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:17,759
Speaker 19: The company we're talking about is the Australian Venue Company.

1638
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 19: Ironic that it's got the name of Australia and it

1639
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 19: decided to say, oh well, Australia Day, January twenty six,

1640
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 19: it causes hurt and suffering, we're not going to do

1641
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 19: anything about it, and the world exploded. I've never seen

1642
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 19: a reaction quite like it. Internet newspaper online comments site

1643
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:38,639
Speaker 19: just blew up with people saying, right, here's the name

1644
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 19: of the pubs. I mean, every newspaper in the country

1645
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 19: might listed the two hundred venues. So if you lived

1646
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 19: in Melbourne, I mean, it just makes you laugh. There's

1647
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 19: a pub in Melbourne called the Duke of Wellington, for

1648
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:54,720
Speaker 19: God's sake. There's a hotel in Adelaide called The Colonist

1649
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:58,879
Speaker 19: and they're going on about colonization and hurt and suffering,

1650
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 19: and I mean, somebody in that company has got to

1651
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 19: be sacked. You would think it's owned by a Hong

1652
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:08,600
Speaker 19: Kong merchant banking outfit, so that might make some explanation

1653
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 19: as to why they had no idea what they were

1654
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:14,759
Speaker 19: doing and they've now beened. This is delicious. The senior

1655
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 19: politician head of the Nationals, David little Proud, says, Okay,

1656
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 19: you've made a mistake. You apologize now, so why don't you,

1657
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 19: as a gesture, for go the fifteen percent surcharge that

1658
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 19: you have on every beer cell on Australia Day as

1659
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 19: a gesture of saying sorry. I mean, they really have

1660
01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:32,799
Speaker 19: buried themselves.

1661
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:35,679
Speaker 2: It's amazing this housing How do you describe it? Because

1662
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 2: as far as I know, most people, I was reading

1663
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:39,720
Speaker 2: about Ireland yesterday, right, so Ireland. I don't know if

1664
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 2: you followed this, but they've had this magnificent windfall from

1665
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 2: Apple and all the corporates that have gone to Ireland,

1666
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 2: so financially they're in clover. They've had an election, the

1667
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:50,839
Speaker 2: government gets re elected, but they still have a housing crisis.

1668
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 2: Most of the western world, as far as I can

1669
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 2: work out, has a housing crisis. How bad is yours?

1670
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 2: And who do they blame?

1671
01:17:57,680 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 19: It's dreadful and it's driven by a larger by migration.

1672
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:04,920
Speaker 19: I mean, we are still bringing six figure numbers of

1673
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 19: people into the country on a regular basis. And there's

1674
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 19: nowhere for them to live. And one of the reasons

1675
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:14,599
Speaker 19: is that all of the tradesmen tradespeople have been sucked

1676
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:17,840
Speaker 19: into these big build projects by people like Victorian governments

1677
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:22,600
Speaker 19: who are building massively expensive underground tunnels for trains that

1678
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 19: might never be finished, new road tunnels. So all of

1679
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 19: the tradees are working on government projects guaranteed incomes, got

1680
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:33,839
Speaker 19: a job for the next five years on massive salaries,

1681
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 19: so no one's around to build houses, and so we've

1682
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:39,759
Speaker 19: got this massive housing crisis and mid Melbourne is currently

1683
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:41,360
Speaker 19: a city of five million that's going to end up

1684
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 19: being eight million by twenty thirty, and there's nowhere for

1685
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 19: anybody to live. Master builders have run a pole overnight

1686
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:50,400
Speaker 19: of sixteen hundred people, and sixty five percent of those

1687
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 19: people hold blame Canberra for the housing crisis. They're the

1688
01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:57,680
Speaker 19: ones that they say are causing the problem. But most disturbingly,

1689
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:00,439
Speaker 19: one in three say that they've had to give up

1690
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 19: medical treatment, food on the table, education costs to actually

1691
01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 19: pay their rent or their mortgage. So we've got this

1692
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 19: double problem. High high interest rates. As you know, we're

1693
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 19: still haven't had an interest rate cut, and people can't

1694
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 19: find anywhere to rent because there's just too many people

1695
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 19: in the country. It's a mess.

1696
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 2: Funny you should say that. Was reading a piece yesterday

1697
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 2: about the Australian Reserve Bank and they still haven't cut

1698
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:25,839
Speaker 2: They're thinking maybe next year now and there's growing concern

1699
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 2: correctly that this is wrong, that they might actually be

1700
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 2: reading this wrong and when they get there, they'll have

1701
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 2: got there too late. Is that fair or not very fair?

1702
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 19: And I think you did it right and not you.

1703
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:40,720
Speaker 19: I know you're in charge of a lot of things.

1704
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:43,519
Speaker 19: You're not charge to New Zealand economy, but your country

1705
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 19: did the right thing. You plunged into what appeared to

1706
01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 19: be a recession, took the pain, and then came out

1707
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 19: and started to drop interest rates. I mean, if I

1708
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 19: got that right now, Yes, all the economic experts in

1709
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:58,599
Speaker 19: this country, so New Zealand properly, we've done it badly

1710
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 19: and the Reserve banking is under huge pressure.

1711
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:03,559
Speaker 2: Now correct me if I'm wrong. But I thought I

1712
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 2: heard this correctly the other day. So the woman's in prison,

1713
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 2: she wants to get pregnant with IVF and the state's

1714
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 2: going to pay for that. Is that how it was

1715
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:11,759
Speaker 2: going to work?

1716
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 19: Correct? She's a charmer. Alicia Schiller stabbed to death a

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01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 19: mother of three over an argument about fifty dollars. She's

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01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:24,719
Speaker 19: in jail for a lengthy period of time for murder,

1719
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:27,839
Speaker 19: and she decides, oh, well, I'd like to have a baby.

1720
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:30,520
Speaker 19: The only way to do it is to have IVF.

1721
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:34,640
Speaker 19: And so she goes to the IVF and to the

1722
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 19: government and they say, yeah, no worries, we'll let you

1723
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 19: come out of charge. You can have the IVF treatment.

1724
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:43,800
Speaker 19: And it's caused outrage from the survivors. The woman she

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01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:46,040
Speaker 19: stabbed to death had three children. I mean, they're going,

1726
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 19: we'll hang on a minute. You kill my mother. But

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01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:50,840
Speaker 19: now the government and the taxpayer is going to pay

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01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:53,759
Speaker 19: for you to go and have a baby anyway, Thank goodness,

1729
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 19: overnight she's changed her mind. There is one caveat on

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01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:58,960
Speaker 19: that thought. The government is saying, oh, well, if you

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01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:00,040
Speaker 19: do really want to do.

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01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 16: It, come back to us at a later date and

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01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:02,720
Speaker 16: we'll do it for you.

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01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 9: Unreal.

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01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 2: Hey, listen, I'm off for Christmas. So you had a

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01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:10,720
Speaker 2: lovely break and a holiday December fourth, Well, I'm not

1737
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:13,840
Speaker 2: leaving today. I've got the rest. I've got the rest

1738
01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:15,599
Speaker 2: of the week to go. But but it's just because

1739
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:18,479
Speaker 2: I knew you do this when you were in Italy,

1740
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:23,759
Speaker 2: and you remember in Greece. You know, Italy and Greece,

1741
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:25,519
Speaker 2: there were two separate holidays. Do you remember when you

1742
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 2: were in those place? When you were there, I was working,

1743
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:31,480
Speaker 2: I was toiling, and I'm, you know, now exhausted.

1744
01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:35,000
Speaker 19: I think there'd be people around you who would suggest

1745
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 19: toiling maybe an exaggeration, but it's been another challenging year,

1746
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 19: very interesting, and I've enjoyed every minute of it.

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01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 2: Thank you, mate, and listen, do enjoy your what was

1748
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 2: it cross? Was it Azuk Vitara cross, Suzuki.

1749
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:52,719
Speaker 19: Tracks? Something?

1750
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:55,639
Speaker 2: The tracks? Arras cross?

1751
01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:58,360
Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah, that's a Yaris Cross.

1752
01:21:58,479 --> 01:22:02,040
Speaker 2: Okay, whatever that is. You enjoy that, enjoy our beautiful country.

1753
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:03,080
Speaker 19: Thank you.

1754
01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:04,840
Speaker 2: I will see you in twenty twenty five.

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01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 12: I tried to buy one yesterday.

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01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 2: Oh you've been trying to buy one for months? What happened?

1757
01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:12,800
Speaker 2: So you were going to find they're out, not even

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01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:13,639
Speaker 2: a secondhand one.

1759
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 12: That's I'm only interested in the second end one.

1760
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:19,600
Speaker 2: So you went into the yard, show me your Toyota

1761
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 2: Yaris crosses and I've just sold it. No can do?

1762
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:25,679
Speaker 2: Was it a demo?

1763
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:28,240
Speaker 12: No? No, no, no, it was just it was and

1764
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 12: it was in red too, which is the color that

1765
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:31,599
Speaker 12: I want. He sold it to somebody else.

1766
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 2: Really, let me have a look here, motors. What year

1767
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 2: you want?

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01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 12: It doesn't really matter. I just want relatively low case

1769
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 12: right a Toyota Yaris Cross.

1770
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, hold on, standby, I'm going to get you one

1771
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 2: right now. Yeah. Oh see it, there aren't any it's

1772
01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 2: just got a yarrus. No, no, I know what you're

1773
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 2: talking about. I know you want the one to hang on.

1774
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:56,640
Speaker 2: Here we go.

1775
01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:00,160
Speaker 12: This is compelling listening, isn't it.

1776
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 2: Well, we want to get Glenna car for Christmas? Do

1777
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 2: you want the gr interested in the gr at All

1778
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:07,599
Speaker 2: one point six?

1779
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 12: I honestly don't mind which he just have the three

1780
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:12,360
Speaker 12: models the years.

1781
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:15,440
Speaker 2: No, but the one you want? This one's six speed manual.

1782
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 12: Oh no, what are you talking about?

1783
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:21,599
Speaker 2: Are you looking at the six six with the rear wing? Oh?

1784
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:23,879
Speaker 12: Yeah, No, that's the sporty one and a splitter.

1785
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:25,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't you want to splitter?

1786
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 12: Come on, it does have the that's got the core

1787
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:30,000
Speaker 12: wheels on it too.

1788
01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:32,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got the it's got the very cool wheels

1789
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:35,240
Speaker 2: on it. What about the r Z edition you want

1790
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 2: one of those. There's hundreds of them here, Glenn. Most

1791
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:39,680
Speaker 2: of them are read. For goodness sake, how are you

1792
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:44,200
Speaker 2: looking so fourteen? Gosh doesn't time fly fourteen minutes away

1793
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:46,439
Speaker 2: from nine the like?

1794
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:50,680
Speaker 1: Asking Breakfast Fall Show podcast on iHeart Radio powered by

1795
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:51,240
Speaker 1: News Talks.

1796
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Speaker 2: It'd be I don't know how many of you have

1797
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 2: seen You're funny? Are you sure you're spelling Yers correctly?

1798
01:23:57,120 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 2: Not searching for yarbis Mikey Sherman jokes. They didn't correct

1799
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:04,240
Speaker 2: that we were talking about that off here. They didn't

1800
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 2: correct that last night, and they probably should have. I

1801
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 2: assume they're too embarrassed. But what they did was lead

1802
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 2: to you to believe that there were no truck driving

1803
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:15,800
Speaker 2: jobs in Hawk's Bay when there are. And that was

1804
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 2: on them, not on the fact that there are a

1805
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:19,679
Speaker 2: lack of truck driving jobs and Hawks Bay two hundred

1806
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:21,760
Speaker 2: and one results Glenn for Yaris cross on trade me.

1807
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:24,240
Speaker 2: There are seventy eight second and years crosses in Auckland alone.

1808
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 2: Plenty out there for you, Glenn. China just quickly out

1809
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:31,479
Speaker 2: of Australia, China this morning is announced they'd lifted the

1810
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 2: last of the tariff. So the scott Morrison, let's have

1811
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 2: a look at where COVID came from. Oh do you okay, well,

1812
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:40,320
Speaker 2: we'll slap tariffs on you for that. That's year's worth

1813
01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:42,680
Speaker 2: of tariff's thirteen billion dollars worth of business. Anyway, the

1814
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 2: last of those tariffs have been lifted this morning. It's

1815
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 2: red meat and lobster. The lobster is going to be

1816
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 2: back by the end of the year, so that's encouraging. Then,

1817
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 2: of concern this Mosaic thing, which we should be interested in,

1818
01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 2: basically because Mosaic have hundreds of stores, seven hundred of them,

1819
01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 2: some of which are in New Zealand. They do the katies,

1820
01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:02,040
Speaker 2: non dmailers, et cetera, as we've talked about of times before. Anyway,

1821
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 2: turns out that they got debts of at least two

1822
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:07,200
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty million dollars and highly unusual for a

1823
01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:09,759
Speaker 2: publicly listed company not to pay for insurance for directors.

1824
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 2: Looks like the directors may not have any insurance, so

1825
01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:16,280
Speaker 2: that's a bit ugly. They've got the unenviable task to

1826
01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:20,679
Speaker 2: KPMG of trying to manage the retailer's furious supply network

1827
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 2: because Mosaics suppliers are being asked to continue to supply

1828
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:26,799
Speaker 2: the retailer because they're still trading while you know, in liquidation,

1829
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 2: still supply them with clothes and footwear, even though there

1830
01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:36,280
Speaker 2: are owed tens of millions of dollars. So before Mosaic

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01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:40,200
Speaker 2: were put into an administration management, we're asking suppliers in

1832
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:43,639
Speaker 2: Bangladesh and China and India and Australia to accept contracts

1833
01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:48,439
Speaker 2: which deferred payments extending in some instances to over three years,

1834
01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:51,840
Speaker 2: and to accept a third or half of what they

1835
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:54,680
Speaker 2: were owed. So you owe me ten thousand dollars, I

1836
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:57,519
Speaker 2: could probably give you five while I'm paying you the five.

1837
01:25:58,240 --> 01:26:01,760
Speaker 2: Can you keep giving me? Shure and give them to me?

1838
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:05,080
Speaker 2: And you may or may not see the money. It's

1839
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:08,559
Speaker 2: just are you serious anyway? I guess we wish them well.

1840
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:09,719
Speaker 2: Nine Away from nine.

1841
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:15,679
Speaker 1: All dumb, Mike Costing, Breakfast with a Vita, retirement, Communities, News,

1842
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:16,400
Speaker 1: togs Head vs.

1843
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:18,920
Speaker 2: All the medium businesses the lifeblood of the country, of course,

1844
01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:20,719
Speaker 2: But anyone in the same boat as you will agree

1845
01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 2: that the last little while has been pretty tough. So

1846
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 2: maybe you've held off putting investment into the old business,

1847
01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:28,160
Speaker 2: or you know, just focused on getting through basically, well,

1848
01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 2: maybe it's time to give yourself a break and your

1849
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 2: business a bit of a boost with taxi now. Taxi

1850
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:35,720
Speaker 2: is the funding solution that lets you use your provisional

1851
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:38,920
Speaker 2: tax payments to secure funding for your business. So built

1852
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 2: by accountants and tax special is super flexible and significantly

1853
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:44,519
Speaker 2: more affordable to when it comes to a loan from

1854
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:47,040
Speaker 2: a bank. In fact, taxi funding is about half the

1855
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 2: cost of a typical big bank overdraft and at just

1856
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:51,559
Speaker 2: five point nine percent per annum, are you likely going

1857
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 2: to be saving a whack on the old business loans.

1858
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 2: So there's no personal guarantees needed, doesn't impact other leaning arrangements,

1859
01:26:56,920 --> 01:26:58,439
Speaker 2: means you can get the funding you need to make

1860
01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:00,760
Speaker 2: improvements to your business in the year ahead. So maybe

1861
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 2: you'll even be able to relax over your summer break

1862
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:04,960
Speaker 2: knowing that you've got a source of business funding available.

1863
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:07,599
Speaker 2: So for business purposes only teas and season fees apply.

1864
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:10,800
Speaker 2: Lending criteria applies, of course, but pay your provisional via

1865
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:14,680
Speaker 2: taxi before jan fifteen at go Taxi dot co dot Nz.

1866
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 2: You got to go taxi dot co dot en z

1867
01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:22,680
Speaker 2: pasking I know that slipknot are coming. I love Slipknot.

1868
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:31,639
Speaker 2: They're at March eleven Spark Arena, Mike Wire add three

1869
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:33,720
Speaker 2: and a half thousand dollars for any New Zealand fair

1870
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:36,920
Speaker 2: from somewhere if you're not in Auckland, Mike, we're flat

1871
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 2: out with stone fruit. We desperately need forklift drivers still, Really,

1872
01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:40,840
Speaker 2: I mean is it that?

1873
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:41,320
Speaker 23: I mean?

1874
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:44,760
Speaker 2: Isn't forklift driving one of the great fun things of

1875
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:46,759
Speaker 2: the world. Five minutes away from nine.

1876
01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 11: Trending now quin Chemist Warehouse, the home of big brand Ftalmens.

1877
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 2: Right Washington Football News meeting with the US Committee on

1878
01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:57,799
Speaker 2: Energy and Natural Resources, it was voted that the RFK

1879
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:01,800
Speaker 2: Stadium would be transferred into ownership by the district, meaning

1880
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 2: they can get a new stadium. Also, it's being confirmed

1881
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:08,759
Speaker 2: that Roger Goodle, who's the ogadill, who's the NFL commission

1882
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 2: to amit with the command designers, there's the Washington commanders

1883
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:14,040
Speaker 2: of the team and the lawmakers to make some changes.

1884
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:15,920
Speaker 2: They're not bringing back the Ridskins. They're not going to

1885
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 2: be called the Washington Redskins, because that apparently is racist.

1886
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 2: But the logo of the Indian head will almost certainly

1887
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:25,520
Speaker 2: be coming back. This is Steve Daines.

1888
01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:29,320
Speaker 15: This is honoring a Blackfeet chief who was born in Montana.

1889
01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:34,200
Speaker 15: He's highly esteemed the Blackfeet Tribe of Montana. They're current chairman,

1890
01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:36,919
Speaker 15: and the tribal council signed a letter in strong support

1891
01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 15: to bring the logo back. It honors Indian country. So

1892
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:44,760
Speaker 15: we've had good discussions with the NFL and with the commanders.

1893
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 15: There's good faith and negotiations going forward. It's going to

1894
01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 15: allow this logo to be used again. Perhaps revenue is

1895
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:54,559
Speaker 15: going to a foundation that could help Native Americans and

1896
01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:57,679
Speaker 15: sports and so forth. We're making good progress and based

1897
01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:01,320
Speaker 15: on the good faith negotiations, I made this support this

1898
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:02,800
Speaker 15: bill yesterday in the committee.

1899
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:05,280
Speaker 2: It's a fantastic logo if you've never seen it, and

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01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 2: it's certainly better than the doub that they have on

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01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:10,000
Speaker 2: the side of their heads at the moment. And they're

1902
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:12,560
Speaker 2: a very good team at the moment. They're one of

1903
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:15,240
Speaker 2: the great comeback stories of the NFL season of twenty

1904
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:17,640
Speaker 2: twenty four. I'm glad I got that year right. I

1905
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:19,679
Speaker 2: said to Steve, I'd see him in twenty twenty six,

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01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:22,840
Speaker 2: which technically is true, but I'll also see him for

1907
01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:25,040
Speaker 2: quite a bit of twenty twenty five, as well, so

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01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:28,240
Speaker 2: you can see how the range done. Getting anyway back tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Happy Days Pickable for more from the Mic Asking Breakfast,

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01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:36,200
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