1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: In Britain, Rod Little in the morning to you more 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: to your age? Now are you excited about mister Tuckle 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: speaking of sport? Is he the man for the day, 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: or the age or the hour? 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 2: Whoever takes up this poison Chalice has my full support, 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 2: sympathy and benediction when they leave. I think he's a 7 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: good idea. He's a very good football manager. He's been 8 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 2: very successful, he's won tournament. The objections over here are 9 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 2: a that he's had a rather tangled sexual life, which 10 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 2: doesn't bother me at all. This is based on the 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 2: fact that most famous manager, Sir Ralph Ramsey, who won 12 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: the World Cup, probably never had sexual intercourse at all. 13 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: Number two is that he is He failed at Chelsea, 14 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: but everybody fails at Chelsea. It's a club which would 15 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 2: suck the last bit of light out of the universe. 16 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: And thirdly that he's German of course, but you know 17 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: people who think that our football manager has to be 18 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 2: directly descended from King Alfred, that Voat has gone and 19 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 2: went a long time ago. We've had Tenure and Ericson, 20 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: We've had Fabio Capello. This guy seems to be a 21 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 2: good bet. I would slightly have preferred it if it 22 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: had been Pep Guardiola, but for a four million quit 23 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,199 Speaker 2: a year. I don't object to commuted to a Cherman 24 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 2: good stuff. 25 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: I want to get to the House of Lord's vote 26 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: in a moment. But there's assister dying bill. How I 27 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: assume it's as controversial beer as it is everywhere around 28 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: the world. 29 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: Well, you guys are a bit ahead of us here. 30 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 2: I mean you went through for you in three, three 31 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: or four years ago. It is controversial. It is subjected 32 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 2: to the not quite clean but fairly clean left right 33 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 2: split in that the left is by and large in 34 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 2: favor of it, and it's being introduced as a private 35 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: members will by a labor NP kim led better. But 36 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 2: it doesn't quite break down like that. We've had the 37 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 2: Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, who made an intervention today 38 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 2: and said, you know, it's a slippery slope. There was 39 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 2: no mention of the sanctity of life, which you might 40 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: have expected from the head of our established church. By 41 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: the same token, someone on almost as grave an ecumenical 42 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: tower as Justin Welby. Esther Ransom, Dame Esther Ransom, she 43 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 2: of that's life, and so on, has also intervened. She 44 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 2: is signed up to dipictaus in Switzerland because she has 45 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: stage four lung cancer and which is not to prolong 46 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: her existence for very much longer. So yeah, it's controversial, 47 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 2: it's difficult, it's very very emotive. The bill will finally 48 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 2: be debated at the end of November. But I think 49 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 2: that the guests, looking from the way that public is 50 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: and the way the Parliament is, it will go through. 51 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: As regards the Lord's vite, which is sort of on 52 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: its mery way as well. Is that remotely controversial or 53 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: just one of those bits of business that needed tidying 54 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: up and sorting a long time ago and no one 55 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: got around and doing it. 56 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think there's an enormous amount of 57 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 2: controversy in that. Uh you know. I think I think 58 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 2: there's a lot going on at the moment which is 59 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 2: problematic for the government, which is also obviously problematic for 60 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 2: the opposition. And I don't think that it's scarcely registered 61 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 2: over here. But then very often what what the what 62 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 2: the House of Rules doesn't register over here at all? 63 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 2: That other people are more. 64 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: Interested than we are, interesting that the white loss Jabs 65 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: thing strikes me is that controversial, because it's it's I 66 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: get what Starmer's watching Starmer and standing outside I'm attend 67 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: yesterday saying it's good for the health system, it's good 68 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: for people, it's. 69 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 2: Good all that. 70 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: I get all that. But if you're overweight and your 71 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: work but you don't have the money for the JAB, 72 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: how is it by being the same size and yet jobless, 73 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: the government will how does it square? 74 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 2: Yes, it's very difficult, isn't it. It's very difficult. My 75 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 2: argument has always been the way you get people back 76 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: into the workforce is by making the difference between being 77 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 2: on the dole and being in work significant for an 78 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 2: incentive I cannot see. And I think the hereditary peers, 79 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 2: by the way, might well have vote in favor of this, 80 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 2: but they're all vast in size. But that's besides the point. 81 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 2: I think. I don't think they've got this quite right. 82 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 2: There is undoubtedly a movement in this country and across 83 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 2: the world, and you've probably seen it as well, which 84 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 2: welcomes these weight loss drugs such as a sempit with 85 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 2: open arms and thinks that it might be a pantasy 86 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: for all of our reals. It may well be I'm 87 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 2: not a chemist. I'm not a physician, but I've read 88 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 2: an awful lot about the good that it can do. 89 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 2: What I don't think that it can do is is 90 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 2: cure slows. Yes, if I can put it like that, 91 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 2: I don't think that it will. I don't think that 92 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 2: it can do that. 93 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 1: No, exactly, we thought we might have moved on with 94 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: the business of the freebies. But he gets the tickets 95 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: to the Swift concert, and I can't remember the name 96 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: of the woman who was a minister who was on 97 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: the radio the other day who also got tickets to 98 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 1: the Swift conference, and then she was busy trying to 99 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: justify the whole thing because they were difficult to get 100 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: and the kids were whining they wanted to go. Then 101 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: we come to Soakia, who gets the Swift tickets but 102 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: then gets to meet Swift. 103 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 2: Yes, it seems to be inconceivable that he would have 104 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 2: been able to meet Swift had it not been for 105 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 2: the fact that he answered Card and various other members 106 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 2: of the Labor Party lob with the Metropolitan Police to 107 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 2: make sure that Taylor Swift got a very good escort, 108 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 2: the sort of escort you would give to someone like 109 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 2: Vladimir puted if he decided to come to the country. 110 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,239 Speaker 2: It's very difficult to argue otherwise because this all happened 111 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 2: subsequent to that decision being made. He apparently had a 112 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 2: ten minute audience with Her Highness. I don't know what 113 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 2: they talked about. Hopefully he tried to tell her about 114 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 2: his great British energy consortium, which will have riveted her 115 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 2: to the spot for those ten minutes. But this is corruption, 116 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 2: you know, it's very low level. You know, this isn't 117 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 2: Russian oligarch stuff, but it is a form of corruption. 118 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 2: And there were ten senior labor politicians who've got these 119 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 2: freebies to go and see Taylor and sit in boxes 120 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 2: and have a bit of shampers, you know, while listening 121 00:06:55,920 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 2: to this vacuous drivel, and it just rubs the public 122 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 2: up the wrong the wrong way, especially the people in 123 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 2: the in the country who would have very much liked 124 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 2: Taylor Swift tickets. And we're probably more appropriately aged tab them, 125 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 2: I you know, ten or something. So it does it 126 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: does play with the public. 127 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: Yes, it does. Go well, Mike will catch up on them, 128 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: catch up on I was going to say we'll catch 129 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: up on Thursday, but given it's already Thursday. Let's let's 130 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: make it Tuesday, shall we. For more from the Mic 131 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: Asking Breakfast, listen live to news talks It'd be from 132 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: six a m. Weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio