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Speaker 1: The issues, suits, the interviews and the inside. Ryan Bridge

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Speaker 1: new for twenty twenty four on the early edition with

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Speaker 1: Smith City, New Zealand's furniture beds and a player store.

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Speaker 2: News Talks EDB, Good morning, it has just gone six

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Speaker 2: half to five News Talk ZB. It looks like Israel

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Speaker 2: is going to go into Lebanon. This is boots on

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Speaker 2: the ground. The Israeli Defense minister just in the last

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Speaker 2: week while says the next phase of the war will begin.

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Speaker 2: Quote soon, We'll have updates for you. Acts Simon Court

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Speaker 2: on the new Infrastructure Agency. Have they included labor in

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Speaker 2: their plans? The insurance industry says, stop building in dumb places.

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Speaker 2: What are dumb places? Dono Tomatow out of Australia and

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Speaker 2: guess the age of the latest Miss Universe candidate.

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Speaker 1: The agenda.

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Speaker 2: It is Tuesday, the first of October. You're on News

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Speaker 2: Talks EDB. Israel looks set to put boots on the

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Speaker 2: ground in southern Lebanon. The US says it could imminently

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Speaker 2: launch a limited ground incursion. Meanwhile, Netanyahu addressed the Iranian people.

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Speaker 3: That regime plunges our region deeper into darkness and deeper

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Speaker 3: into war. Every day, their puppets are eliminated. As muhammadev

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Speaker 3: Asna Suela. There is nowhere in the Middle East Israel

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Speaker 3: cannot reach.

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Speaker 2: The death toll from Hurricane Helen. In the Southeast United

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Speaker 2: States now more than one hundred two million still without power.

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Speaker 1: Our state Emergency Response team has completed nearly nine hundred

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Speaker 1: and seventy four missions and they're actively fulfilling fifteen hundred more.

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Speaker 2: Japan's going to the polls a snap election for them.

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Speaker 2: The incoming Prime minister wants the poll held in a month,

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Speaker 2: not in a year when it was planned. Shigeru Ishiba

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Speaker 2: was just elected by his party and says the people

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Speaker 2: should judge him. Ride that honeymoon Aeshiba. Ride that honeymoon

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Speaker 2: back home. The government's crowing about a triple whammy of

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Speaker 2: good news, childcare payments, new cancer drug funding kicking today.

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Speaker 2: Everybody will be talking about no, not that, how much

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Speaker 2: lux and soldiers houses forward. Did you see the TV

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Speaker 2: one story last night. I'll tell you about that in

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Speaker 2: just a few moments.

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Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines. Ryan Bridge you for twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four on early edition with Smith City, New Zealand.

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Speaker 1: Furniture beds and a Planet Store News.

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Speaker 2: Talk said, be here's an idea. How would you feel

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Speaker 2: about and this is the hospital in Dunedan that everybody's

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Speaker 2: talking about. How would you feel about private funding for

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Speaker 2: a public hospital? How would you feel about a private

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Speaker 2: company building it. There is a company that does this,

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Speaker 2: it's called Vital Healthcare and they have been for years

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Speaker 2: banging on Labour's door. That then government saying we want

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Speaker 2: to build stuff and then we'll rent it back to you,

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Speaker 2: and Labour said no. They put a line through it

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Speaker 2: in terms of health and in terms of education infrastructure,

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Speaker 2: they said, nah, we don't want to borrow it. How

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Speaker 2: do you feel about that? If it gets the damn

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Speaker 2: thing built? They reckon they can do things cheaper, They reckon,

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Speaker 2: they can do them more effectively. Nine two ninety two

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Speaker 2: with it. Build cheaper, build better, rent back to us.

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Speaker 2: What's the problem? Nine two nine two the number to text.

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Speaker 2: Would be great to have your feedback on that this morning.

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Speaker 2: And I am going to ask Simon Cought about that.

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Speaker 2: He's the he's the guy. He's an undersecretary. A bit demeaning,

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Speaker 2: but he's the under secretary for the Minister for RMA

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Speaker 2: and the Minister of Infrastructure as well, so we'll ask

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Speaker 2: him about that just before six o'clock. Also a bunch

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Speaker 2: build a house? I would have thought in a flood zone.

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Speaker 2: But if you want to build your house in a

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Speaker 2: should the government stop you? I mean, obviously no one's

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Speaker 2: It's your life, you know. If you want a drown

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Speaker 2: in it, that's your choice. Minutes after five.

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Speaker 2: You're on Newstalk, said B. News and Views.

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Speaker 1: You trust to start your days early edition with Ryan

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Speaker 1: Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture, beds and a

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Speaker 2: News Talk said B thirteen after five, Great to have

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Speaker 2: One News? It was a story about Chris Luxen and

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Speaker 2: his property saying, oh, he's making so much profit half

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Speaker 5: Two is pending settlement for nine hundred and thirty thousand,

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Speaker 5: resulting in a two hundred and eighty k profit. Combined

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Speaker 2: Is it property profit? Because what they failed to add

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Speaker 2: of it. This is what they bought it for, this

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Speaker 2: five cran Bridge, speaking of property, insurers, want to make

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Speaker 2: in land flooding. Bruce Where is a urban designer at

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Speaker 2: Saddleback Planning and Urban Design, is with us this morning. Bruce,

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Speaker 2: good morning, Good morning, Ryan. Good to have you on

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Speaker 2: the show. Do people want? Do people want to build

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Speaker 4: Everywhere we want to live is played with a few issues,

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Speaker 4: Look, I think what it is is that. Look, it

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Speaker 2: Well, they don't want to be, but they have a

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Speaker 2: I mean, they're obviously just a warning saying we're not

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Speaker 4: Well, the way I see it is so we're trying

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Speaker 4: you know, look, if you drive drunk, you lose your license, right,

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Speaker 4: you know what's coming. You're not insured, your car's uninsured.

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Speaker 1: Why do we.

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Speaker 4: Somehow we have to bail everybody out when they do

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Speaker 2: Tell you, I forget that Bible saying that the man

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Speaker 2: And I forget how it goes, but it's that kind

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Speaker 2: urban designer at Saddleback Planning and Urban Design, talking there

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Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge New for twenty twenty four on early edition

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Speaker 1: with Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Beds and a Flying Store.

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Speaker 2: News Talk. Sibby, it is twenty after five. You're on

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Speaker 2: news Talk, said, be couple of quick bits of information

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Speaker 2: economy in general. They also expect to lift. That's up

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Speaker 2: consumers business is feeling good, Consumers still battling and borrowing,

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Speaker 2: twenty four percent year on year increase in financial hardship cases.

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Speaker 2: a little bit more positive and thinking, well, I can

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Speaker 2: get that credit card now because things will improve in

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Speaker 2: the future. In any case, there's an OCR decision next week.

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Speaker 2: It is twenty one after five Bridge. You might have

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Speaker 2: seen this in New Zealand's pulling out of in the

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Speaker 2: Cargo Wellington route. This is happening in January. They say

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Speaker 2: that the decision came down to engine issues and softening

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Speaker 2: of demand. Domestically, Customers can still go to in Vicargo

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Speaker 2: from Wellington, but you've got to go via christ Church.

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Abbas singing it here is with us this morning

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Speaker 2: from the Great South, which is the tourism agency down there.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for being with me. Is this a big

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Speaker 2: loss the Wellington route?

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Speaker 6: Definitely is. We're very disappointed. We've worked really hard as

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Speaker 6: a region to establish where we are at this point

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Speaker 6: in time. Economic development's been really good, the growth has

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Speaker 2: I suppose. So there you're going. That's happening in Mexico

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Speaker 2: We're going to our reporters around the country. Calum Proctor

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Speaker 8: Thinking about I have to let Nana know about that.

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Speaker 2: A positive trend continues for Canterbury University.

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Speaker 9: Yes, well for christ Church in general. Ryan. This year

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Speaker 2: Well, that's cool. How's your weather fine?

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Speaker 2: Thank you Claire on this universe Ken's text and once

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Speaker 10: They're partly cloudy, some stronger winds today, northerlies fifteen. The

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Speaker 2: We've got a future fund to look forward to here, Yes,

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Speaker 11: It was created to diversify the council's major investments to

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Speaker 2: I know it's cool, isn't it good? It good on it?

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Speaker 2: And she looks fantastic, does she? I do want to know?

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Speaker 11: And they'd have to change the questions. Imagine if she

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Speaker 11: What would you ask her? Doesn't probably be married about

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Speaker 2: Want to ask her how she looks so good? I

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Speaker 2: Exactly? Weather a year weather please?

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Speaker 11: Light ChEls this morning? Very warm though.

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Speaker 2: and First, Donna demays Australia correspondent Donna an email Blunder.

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Speaker 12: Absolutely This happened at the Victorian Victims of Crime Assistance Tribunal.

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Speaker 12: It was called an administrative eraror basically, hundreds of email

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Speaker 12: addresses have been shared and it's understood up to about

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Speaker 12: four hundred and eighty people recipients that were all on

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Speaker 12: this single email all received the same email. But they're

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Speaker 12: calling it an accident. But the question is, isn't apology enough.

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Speaker 12: These email addresses were shared now some are believed to

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Speaker 12: belong to victims of crime, and lawyers say that it's

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Speaker 12: such a serious privacy breach. It's they've condemned the incident,

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Speaker 12: saying that it could actually add trauma for so many

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Speaker 12: vulnerable people, including victims of attempt at murder or family violence.

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Speaker 12: And well, the tribunal is offering support and has apologized,

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Speaker 12: but one person's already spoken out, telling the ABC they're

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Speaker 12: very frightened. Another reports suggest that one person has already

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Speaker 12: received graphic footage from another person in that email change.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's awful story, but you also do have to

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Speaker 2: feel probably for whoever the person was that you know

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Speaker 2: that accidentally sent the email.

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Speaker 12: Absolutely, I'm sure they feel terrible about it.

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Speaker 2: Hey, The Bushfire season kicks off today.

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Speaker 12: Are you ready, Yes, well some aren't. We're hearing from

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Speaker 12: New South Wales Fire Service and they're saying that they've

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Speaker 12: already responded to more than sixteen hundred bush and grass

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Speaker 12: fires across the state since the start of July. And

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Speaker 12: there's been years of wet weather vegetation growth and that's

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Speaker 12: making it harder for fire authorities to prepare for the

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Speaker 12: bushfire season. As you mentioned, it does start today, so

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Speaker 12: they've issued those warnings to residents to start preparing from

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Speaker 12: now and there's a number of things they need to do,

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Speaker 12: including have a bushfire survival plan. Interestingly, we heard from

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Speaker 12: the Bureau of Meteorology earlier this month and they said, oh, sorry,

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Speaker 12: last month and they said that they found that large

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Speaker 12: parts of Queensland, the Northern Territory, the southwest of Victoria

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Speaker 12: and the southeast corner of South Australia face a greater

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Speaker 12: risk of bushfires this spring.

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Speaker 2: Old yeah, not good. Hopefully they have sort of things

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Speaker 2: out and prepared themselves done and to our Australia correspondent,

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Speaker 2: it is twelve minutes away from six Bryan Bridge. The

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Speaker 2: government's released it's Q four action plan. It's got forty

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Speaker 2: three points and it's the ones we're looking at this morning,

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Speaker 2: RMA reform and establishing the National Infrastructure Agency, which is

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Speaker 2: coming by Christmas. We are promised in this action Plan.

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Speaker 2: Simon Court is act MP and Under Secretary to the

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Speaker 2: Minister responsible for RMA reform and for Infrastructure. Simon good morning,

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Ryan, thanks for being with me. The Infrastructure

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Speaker 2: Agency that we want to set up by Christmas. Have

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Speaker 2: you got any idea on what it's going to cost us?

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Speaker 7: No, but it's vital that we do have an agency

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Speaker 7: that can coordinate funding from the private sector that we

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Speaker 7: need to put it into the PPP projects, and that

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Speaker 7: has the expertise, say to accept and review market lead

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Speaker 7: proposals when the private sector has a really, really good

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Speaker 7: idea and they want to take it to government. Say

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Speaker 7: for example, when I was in Texas and twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 7: a Spanish consortium said, look, we've provided a proposal to

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Speaker 7: upgrade State Highway one and upgrade the Northern Express Busway

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Speaker 7: at no cost to the taxpayer. All we wanted was

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Speaker 7: a fifty year right to operate it. There was no

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Speaker 7: one to receive that proposal. So the National Infrastructure Agency

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Speaker 7: is intended to be the front door for really really

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Speaker 7: good ideas and the coordinator between private and institutional finance

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Speaker 7: and the big profit.

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Speaker 2: Partnership had any offers so far, sod you've announced that

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Speaker 2: it's coming.

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Speaker 7: Well. What we heard at the Building Nations conference, which

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Speaker 7: is New Zealand's big infrastructure conference about a month ago,

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Speaker 7: was it this massive desire to participate in these big

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Speaker 7: public private partnership projects.

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Speaker 2: But you haven't challenge You haven't had any specific offers

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Speaker 2: that you're aware of, the government has any specific offers

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Speaker 2: from from interested parties.

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Speaker 7: I'm aware that there are a number of parties that

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Speaker 7: are lining up to make submissions when we've got the

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Speaker 7: National Infrastructure Agency open.

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Speaker 2: Do you know how many or what their names are?

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Speaker 7: And I certainly don't. And that's the that's one of

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Speaker 7: the challenges is maintaining privatey and people have really really

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Speaker 7: good ideas. We don't want them to be in a

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Speaker 7: situation where they present the folder of good ideas to

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Speaker 7: government and then it gets shopped around all the competitors

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Speaker 7: or treated in a way that.

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Speaker 2: Have you guys spoken to Labor about the establishment of

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Speaker 2: this year? Have you have you guys been in contact

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Speaker 2: with Barbibans et cetera, because it was it all needed

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Speaker 2: to be come by our according to the Expert Advisory Panel.

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Speaker 7: Well, there is cross party support for delivering infrastructure. Different

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Speaker 7: political parties have different priorities, but the coalition's priority is

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Speaker 7: to get major roads of national significance consented and built totally.

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Speaker 2: And I get that. But the problem is you guys

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Speaker 2: start it, they stop it. The next one starts that,

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Speaker 2: they stop it. So you need to be an agreeance.

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Speaker 2: Have you guys spoken to Labor or not.

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Speaker 7: Well, I've certainly spoken to people at Barbara Emon's on

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Speaker 7: a regular basis. But here's the challenge for Labor Ryan.

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Speaker 7: They need to grow up. In countries like Australia, there

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Speaker 7: is no dispute whether roads are part of the nation's

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Speaker 7: infrastructure mix. For some reason, the left wing in New

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Speaker 7: Zealand still want to argue about where the roads are.

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Speaker 7: A good idea. They just need to grow up and

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Speaker 7: get with the proo.

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Speaker 2: I think everybody needs to grow up. Really, let's talk

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Speaker 2: about Dunedin, the hospital there. Why don't we have a

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Speaker 2: privately owned hospital built?

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Speaker 7: Well, that's a really good question. I have a delegation

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Speaker 7: to look into the key options and to develop policy

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Speaker 7: to make it much easier for those kind of projects

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Speaker 7: to go ahead with private capital. At the moment, the

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Speaker 7: government is really short of money, but public private partnerships

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Speaker 7: direction they're not. They're not just to get more money,

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Speaker 7: they're actually to get better whole of life maintenance outcomes,

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Speaker 7: bring more innovation.

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Speaker 2: And there's private companies that do this. They build health

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Speaker 2: care facilities, they build hospitals, and then we rent them back.

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Speaker 2: Would you like to see that in somewhere like to

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Speaker 2: need them.

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Speaker 7: Well, I think that's one of the options that should

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Speaker 7: be on the table. Is it necessarily Well, it may

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Speaker 7: not necessarily apply to to Needen, but it certainly should

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Speaker 7: in the health portfolio, education portfolio and other social services

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Speaker 7: going forward.

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Speaker 2: Does nationally agree with that, because at the moment they've owned,

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Speaker 2: they've limited it to acc super fund, etc.

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Speaker 7: Well, we developed the Public Product Partnership Policy Model Update

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Speaker 7: and that's going to be available in the next couple

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Speaker 7: of months, and at that point it's going to be

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Speaker 7: quite clear there's a simpler pathway for a whole of

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Speaker 7: private investors and really good quality builders to get together

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Speaker 7: and provide these solutions to government over a longer period

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Speaker 7: of time.

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Speaker 2: You're giving me the scope, simon, aren't You're saying that

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Speaker 2: hospitals and health are both fair game for private private

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Speaker 2: capital to build PPPs, to come and build them and

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Speaker 2: we rent them back.

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Speaker 7: Well, that's a government policy to consider the better use

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Speaker 7: of private institutional capital and delivering infrastructure. That's no secret, right,

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Speaker 7: but of the one of the things you've learned from

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Speaker 7: looking at Transmission Gully and some of these other projects

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Speaker 7: is actually the risk balance isn't right between the crown

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Speaker 7: and the private sector. There's some risk that the crown

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Speaker 7: should should take hold of and retain and then you

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Speaker 7: actually get a better value, smarter outcome from the private sector.

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Speaker 7: So those are one of the things that we're working

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Speaker 7: to deliver the best design and the best value for

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Speaker 7: money in the next In the next couple of months,

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Speaker 7: we'll be making an announcement about that.

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Speaker 2: But just to be clear, National has so far limited

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Speaker 2: funding or ideas for funding for health and education to

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Speaker 2: the a sec Fund, the super Fund and key we Saver.

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Speaker 2: Are you saying that it could be open to private

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Speaker 2: enterprise companies like vital.

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Speaker 7: Well in the education space, you know, there are already

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Speaker 7: education pvps so at Waktapu School in Auckland, at Holbsonville.

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Speaker 7: We're private capital, not just acc and these other government

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Speaker 7: funds are already engaged. So we just want to make

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Speaker 7: sure that there's a simpler pathway to do it and

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Speaker 7: that the Crown is ready, because the Crown hasn't necessarily

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Speaker 7: been ready to have this engagement. The last six years

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Speaker 7: have seen the withering away of crown's capability to engage

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Speaker 7: with the private sector. We're making sure that we're ready

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Speaker 7: to do it and we'll have a policy an ounce

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Speaker 7: and taken the next couple of months.

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Speaker 2: All right, Simon, thank you very much for your time

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Speaker 2: this morning. That's act MP and Under Secretary for Aromy

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Speaker 2: and Infrastructure, Simon Court at a six to six.

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Speaker 12: use up all the music, time, all the way up.

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