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Speaker 1: We're enjoined now by our political editor Jason Walls. You're

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Speaker 1: still here, Y're still here.

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Speaker 2: By what they say.

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Speaker 1: Every time I told to you, I think it's the

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Speaker 1: last time I'm going to talk to you. But now

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Speaker 1: here we are once again.

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Speaker 2: Every different time as a present for me.

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Speaker 1: As a joy and delight and oil. I guess expiration

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Speaker 1: is back on the menu. Boys.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, great Lord of the Rings reference there, mister Dickens.

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Speaker 2: As expected this past in the House today with the

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Speaker 2: government parties voting for it and the opposition voting against it,

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Speaker 2: so there was not really anything outside of the ordinary there.

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Speaker 2: The debate was, as also expected, quite fierce at times.

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Speaker 2: Here's what Meagan Wood said during her speech.

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Speaker 3: The government needs to front up with some facts to

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Speaker 3: New Zealanders and come claim that what they are doing

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Speaker 3: is right wing virtue signaling and it is nothing more

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Speaker 3: than an ideological desire to look to the past instead

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Speaker 3: of investing in the future.

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Speaker 2: So there were quite a few speeches along that line.

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Speaker 2: Right wing virtue signaling seemed to be the labor parties

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Speaker 2: go to freeze acts. Simon Court also had a crack

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Speaker 2: at the labor in the Greens.

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Speaker 4: And mister Steve Abel, I tell you how important it

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Speaker 4: is for you and even people in the Green Party.

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Speaker 4: It's those critical minerals that this bill will enable to

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Speaker 4: be extracted and developed, that power your solar panels, your satellites,

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Speaker 4: your mobile phone, that keeps humans like all of us,

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Speaker 4: even building the Green Party connected and on social media.

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Speaker 2: So he was directing that at Steve Abel who is

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Speaker 2: from the Green Party, and Green Stephen Abel rather had

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Speaker 2: a clap back for him.

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Speaker 5: That is why it is a futile effort on the

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Speaker 5: part of this government to try and bring this industry back,

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Speaker 5: because this industry knows full well that when this side

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Speaker 5: of the house is back on that side of the

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Speaker 5: House in eighteen months time, the ban on oil and

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Speaker 5: gas is coming back into place.

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Speaker 2: So I actually think that is one of the most

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Speaker 2: important things that were said in this debate, because the

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Speaker 2: government can reverse the ban. But if you're an oil

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Speaker 2: and a gas company, why the heck would you bother

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Speaker 2: coming here? You could be losing billions and billions of

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Speaker 2: dollars because another government might reverse the reversal of the

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Speaker 2: oil and gas ban, and then another one might come

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Speaker 2: in and reverse the reversal of the reversal, so it's

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Speaker 2: just not really worth it for these big companies.

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Speaker 1: Shane Jones has been nice about this, like how are

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Speaker 1: you going to ring fience and how are you going

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Speaker 1: to strengthen it and make sure that that doesn't happen

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Speaker 1: that we don't have flip flops? So has he got

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Speaker 1: an answer for it?

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Speaker 2: Shane Jones wasn't actually here today unfortunately it was his

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Speaker 2: baby in the house, but he wasn't the one shepherding

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Speaker 2: it through today. It was Simon Watts as Energy Minister.

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Speaker 2: But I'm sure listen, it's a bit tough because governments

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Speaker 2: are sovereign. They're elected by the country, so if they

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Speaker 2: want to do something, they can do it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Now the Malting Party and they're taking legal action

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Speaker 1: over alleged voter de registration.

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Speaker 2: They are indeed departy Marty have filed urgent proceedings in

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Speaker 2: the High Court following what they say is an alarming

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Speaker 2: reports that Marty acts across the country have been removed

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Speaker 2: from the electoral role or shifted off the Mahdi roll

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Speaker 2: without their knowledge, content or due process. Quote. We are

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Speaker 2: witnessing what can only be described as voter suppression. Our

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Speaker 2: farmao are being stripped of their democratic right in silence.

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Speaker 2: And that's according to TI Party Marii co leader Debbie Nadi,

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Speaker 2: were packat now pretty serious allegations here. The party has

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Speaker 2: sent formal letters to both the Electoral Commission, the Ministry

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Speaker 2: of Justice and the Ombudsman demanding urgent action, including a

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Speaker 2: full investigation of the enrollment system and an extensive registration

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Speaker 2: or an extensive look into the registration process in the

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Speaker 2: upcoming Tamaki Makoto by election. Now, if I were Tea

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Speaker 2: Party Marii, I'd probably not raise issues to do with

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Speaker 2: electoral problems when it comes to Tamaki Maikoto given the

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Speaker 2: investigations around their own voting behavior in the Manu Rewa

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Speaker 2: Marai and the last election. But hey, that's just me.

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Speaker 2: Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith, who's in charge of the Electoral Commission,

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Speaker 2: was asked about this and he said, there's nothing to

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Speaker 2: see here.

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Speaker 6: Well, yes, I am consumed by the reports or the

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Speaker 6: advice I've had from the Electoral Commission is that they

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Speaker 6: can see no issue. So if the multi party suggesting

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Speaker 6: that there is, my encouragement of them is to give

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Speaker 6: some specific details to the Electoral Commission and let them join.

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Speaker 2: So the Electoral Commission have actually said that they've heard

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Speaker 2: some concerns that people have been unable to find their

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Speaker 2: employment records or it's our enrollment records on the website,

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Speaker 2: and they've checked and there are no technical issues with

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Speaker 2: our enrollment system. Quote. If you can't find your enrollment record,

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Speaker 2: it might be because you're not enrolled, or you're on

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Speaker 2: the unpublished role. There are a few other reasons why

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Speaker 2: enrollment records might not come up immediately or might not

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Speaker 2: be available on Volte New Zealand. So they're saying nothing

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Speaker 2: to see here as well. But I guess we'll wait

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Speaker 2: to see what the High Court says.

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Speaker 1: I guess on the previous issue where you said that's

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Speaker 1: just me, don't worry, Jason, it's not just you.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think it was.

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Speaker 1: It's me too, and an awful lot of other people

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Speaker 1: who have an awful lot of concerns. And Jason, it's

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Speaker 1: been lovely working with you. I'm presuming this is the

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Speaker 1: last time we talked, but then again, that could be

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Speaker 1: wrong as well. And I thank you for more.

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