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Speaker 2: A cutter good afternoon and welcome into Weekend Sport on

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Speaker 2: News Talks EDB, Saturday April five. I'm Jason Pine Show

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Speaker 2: producer Andy McDonald. We're here until three cricket, rugby, football,

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Speaker 2: rugby league and lots more including a bunch of live

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Speaker 2: sport to get suck into this afternoon. But I want

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Speaker 2: to get straight into the show today and just a warning.

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Speaker 2: Our first segment of the show today discusses serious themes,

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Speaker 2: including suicide. Former All Whites goalkeeper Jake Gleeson, who played

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Speaker 2: eight times for the national side between twenty eleven and

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Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, has been awarded thirty five million thirty five

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Speaker 2: point seven million New Zealand dollars and damages after he

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Speaker 2: brought a medical malpractice lawsuit against an ex team doctor

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Speaker 2: at Portland Timbers Football Club. His career came to a

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Speaker 2: halt in twenty eighteen after surgery to treat a stress

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Speaker 2: fracture in his leg went terribly wrong. Both legs became

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Speaker 2: properly sterilized. This led to multiple surgeries, serious medical problems,

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Speaker 2: joining us to tell us the story. Take us back

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Speaker 2: to twenty eighteen, back to the start, and tell us

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I appreciate having me on. Yeah, it's kind

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Speaker 4: For some shin splints.

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Speaker 3: Went in for an X ray one day, and yeah,

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Speaker 3: they told me that I had some some stress stress fractures.

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Speaker 3: So it's a bit of a bit of a Cafar

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Speaker 3: So yeah, left left the training field that day not

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Speaker 2: Really, when did it become apparent after that initial surgery

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Speaker 3: put on some medication then for it to help subside it,

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Speaker 3: So the play that got inserted that only went through

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Speaker 3: So they went in there, pulled out the plate and

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Speaker 3: On my one week follow up, I went to see

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Speaker 3: I feel like I'm rotting from the inside. I went

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Speaker 3: Once you develop ostroumolitis. It's it's about it bad as

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Speaker 3: which with all this medicine still coursing through me every week.

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Speaker 3: So it was after the first surgery of the new

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Speaker 2: Right, So what'sn't until then that you learned of the

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Speaker 2: unsterilized plate being put in you in the very first surgery.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the doctor had essentially broken national state and his

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Speaker 4: At this point, it's I want.

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Speaker 3: To say, October of twenty eighteen, and I've lost a

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Speaker 4: So yeah, it happened really really, really.

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Speaker 2: So Jake, at that point, are you still hopeful of

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Speaker 3: that means that those six holes in my league didn't

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Speaker 4: And I knew that.

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Speaker 3: So when in for more surgeries, was on placed on

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Speaker 3: So eventually it was in the hospital. Was really sick.

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Speaker 4: So you just have to.

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Speaker 2: And I mean that's the physical side of this. What

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Speaker 3: And I'll do my best not to break down for you, mate,

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Speaker 3: There are points where I just didn't want to live

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Speaker 3: I was just a burden on my friends, a burden

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Speaker 3: And the worst that got was I basically had a

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Speaker 3: It never went through with that, which I'm I'm happy about,

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Speaker 2: All right, Jak, that might be a good time to

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Speaker 2: with more from Jake Gleeson right after this on Weekend Sport.

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Speaker 1: The Voice of Sport on your home of Sport Weekend

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Speaker 1: Sport with Jason Hin and GJ. Gunnomes New Zealand's most

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Speaker 2: Talks twelve twenty seven on Weekend Sport. Our guest is

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Speaker 2: former All Whites goalkeeper Jake Gleeson, awarded thirty five point

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Speaker 2: seven million New Zealand dollars and damages after he brought

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Speaker 2: Portland Timbers Football Club. So you've told us about what

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when once I found out what had occurred in

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Speaker 3: I didn't even know what my rights were, even though

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Speaker 3: And my uncle responded, he's you may not be the

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Speaker 3: So yeah, at that point, I think once I found

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Speaker 4: The way that I can explain it.

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Speaker 3: It's like putting a piece of rock chicken in a

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Speaker 3: There was no turning back once once I found that out,

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Speaker 3: But I think hopefully that it puts in perspective that,

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Speaker 3: I was like, if they don't want to, you know,

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Speaker 2: How has this changed your relationship with with the Portland

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Speaker 3: I felt, well, the football club, I would say, tweet

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Speaker 3: You know, to play at the club for nine years

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Speaker 3: So although I felt like I was thrown out blay

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great. It's not getting away from the fact that,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's still a long way to go

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Speaker 4: Still. Trial is a very.

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Speaker 4: If anybody's asking. It doesn't work like that.

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Speaker 3: So you know, once it all see it was and

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Speaker 3: I think it is growing and I think there is

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Speaker 2: Last question, have you fallen out of love with football?

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Speaker 4: It's a great question, no, because if you.

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Speaker 3: If I could play one more professional game and walk out,

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Speaker 3: whether it be with All White game, Timbers game, I

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Speaker 3: would I would give a lot to do that, basically anything.

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Speaker 3: And the reason I know I haven't is that there

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Speaker 3: are still mornings I wake up and I forget everything

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Speaker 3: that's happened, and I actually get up thinking I'm about

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Speaker 3: to go into training. It's a game that gave me

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Speaker 3: a lot of opportunity. I owe the game a lot.

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Speaker 3: There was a period after all this where I had

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Speaker 3: to walk away from it, and I did, and I

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Speaker 3: looked at it as a source of anger or anxiety

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Speaker 3: or stress. But I think slowly, over time, I can't

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Speaker 3: deny the fact that I love football and that's that's

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Speaker 3: been in me since I was a kid.

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Speaker 4: So I'm I'm excited to watch more.

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Speaker 3: I haven't really watched much, and to slowly get back

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Speaker 3: into it and hopefully it hurts a little bit less

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Speaker 3: and less over time that I can no longer do it,

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Speaker 3: and I think one I'm most excited for us to

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Speaker 3: see the boys in between twenty six course some upsets

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Speaker 3: in the States. I couldn't be more excited for the

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Speaker 3: Al Whites and the boys on the team that I know,

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Speaker 3: and all the young guns coming through. I mean, they're

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Speaker 3: an impressive bunch, so I'll be there supporting them for sure.

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Speaker 2: As well we all. Jake, I can't thank you enough

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Speaker 2: for being so open and honest about what you've been through.

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Speaker 2: I wish more than anything that you didn't have to

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Speaker 2: go through this and I could find you that time machine.

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Speaker 2: But now that you have and you're out the other

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Speaker 2: side and the US justice system has done its job.

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Speaker 2: I wish you only peace and fulfillment in the years ahead.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much again for joining us in such

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Speaker 2: an authentic way.

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Speaker 3: No, I appreciate I appreciate you reaching out and it's

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Speaker 3: a story that I think needs to be heard. And

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Speaker 3: I'll say it again, if anybody needs any help or

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Speaker 3: is going through anything, reach out to me. I'll hopefully

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Speaker 3: I'll have something a little bit more established as we

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Speaker 3: move forward. But yeah, like I said, it's a story

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Speaker 3: I needed to tell to me. Make sure that it

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Speaker 3: didn't happen to anyone else. So appreciate your time, mate,

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Speaker 3: Appreciate your riching out, and you'll see what the future holds.

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Speaker 3: But I think it's a little brighter than the last

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Speaker 3: seven years, which is hopeful.

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Speaker 2: No doubt, no doubt. Thanks Jake Jake Gleason, their former

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Speaker 2: All Whites and Portland Timbers goalkeeper with quite the tale,

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Speaker 2: Quite the story twenty five to one. I eight one

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Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty If anything stood out there,

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Speaker 2: you want to react to heaps of feedback coming through

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Speaker 2: on text, which is great to see any thoughts, anything

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Speaker 2: you want to add anything you want to say about

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Speaker 2: a quite remarkable story. I eight hundred eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 2: is our number nine two nine two text messages twenty

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Speaker 2: five to one. News Talks EB the Big Issues.

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Speaker 1: On and after Fields Call eight hundred eighty gen eighty

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Speaker 1: Weekends Forward with Jason Fain and GJ. Gunnomes, New Zealand's

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Speaker 1: first trusted home builder, News Talks, BB.

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Speaker 2: News Talks at being Weekend Sport. It's what are we

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Speaker 2: twenty one away from one? Heaps of feedback coming through

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Speaker 2: on the text line about the Jake Gleeson interview. A

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Speaker 2: chance to listen back to it. All of our all

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Speaker 2: of our material goes on to our podcast feed, So

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Speaker 2: wherever you your podcast, just look for Weekend Sport and

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Speaker 2: all of our interviews are put up there welly pretty

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Speaker 2: shortly after they play. So if you didn't get the

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Speaker 2: chance to listen to it, then then I hope you

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Speaker 2: will get the chance to really listen. Great and sobering interview,

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Speaker 2: says Mike, what a journey. In one sense, it's beneficial

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Speaker 2: it happened in the US, as he would have got

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Speaker 2: no financial compensation in New Zealand. I hope Jake's future

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Speaker 2: is a positive one. Julie says, what an incredible interview.

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Speaker 2: In a response to your question about his love sport.

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Speaker 2: He got me crying, Thanks Julie. Jason, this is heartbreakingly tragic.

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Speaker 2: What an awesome young guy. My heart goes out to

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Speaker 2: him so brutal and I hope he heals Okay, Jason,

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Speaker 2: I can't find anything to say, says Judy. I'm so

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Speaker 2: glad he made it through the dark days and has

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Speaker 2: won his case. It won't replace his health, but he'll

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Speaker 2: have financial support now, Thanks Judy. And Greek says Jake.

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Speaker 2: I've been through some medical misadventures, knowing there what you've

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Speaker 2: been through, mate, but just want to say all strength,

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Speaker 2: do you stay strong? And kia kaha. Yeah, really really

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Speaker 2: interesting stuff and another one that has just come through here.

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Speaker 2: Everything to be said for advocating for ones self, trusting

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Speaker 2: one's instincts, and accepting that doctors and specialists sometimes aren't

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Speaker 2: all that Wishing Jake all the strength and I don't

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Speaker 2: have the right words in the world to him. I've

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Speaker 2: had my own chronic and life sentence experience. One of

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Speaker 2: the most difficult and heartbreaking things is looking functional but

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Speaker 2: living with a health related experience or condition that is

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Speaker 2: incomprehensible to others. Don't compromise on your own truth would

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Speaker 2: be my best advice. You'll meet those that impose their

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Speaker 2: own ideas of how you are, those that need you

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Speaker 2: to be normal in order to be acceptable, and you'll

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Speaker 2: meet those who will let you be crap and that's

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Speaker 2: okay their gold. An extraordinary young man. Thanks and really

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Speaker 2: appreciate you taking the time to put your thoughts down

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Speaker 2: on a text to us as well. Oh eight hundred

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Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty other meters around today, there is

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Speaker 2: a bit going on. I can tell you. We need

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Speaker 2: to cover off for RUGB, we need to cover off

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Speaker 2: a bit of football. We need to cover off some cricket.

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Speaker 2: In fact, let's start with the cricket, shall we, Because

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Speaker 2: the third and final One day International between New Zealand

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Speaker 2: and Pakistan has been delayed by rain in Well, I

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Speaker 2: think it was overnight rain more than anything, because it

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Speaker 2: pretty much rained everywhere in the Upper North Island over

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Speaker 2: the last forty eight hours, didn't it so at Bay

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Speaker 2: Oval and mountamong Going to week, the match has been

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Speaker 2: reduced to forty two overs per side. Forty two overs

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Speaker 2: per side, Pakistan one the toss and have sent New

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Speaker 2: Zealand into bat a forty two over a side match

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Speaker 2: and one change to the New Zealand side, with Tim

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Speaker 2: Seifert coming into the eleven. He'll play his first One

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Speaker 2: Day International since twenty nineteen. So Tim Seifert in Nathan

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Speaker 2: Smith will drop out and as I say, play reduced

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Speaker 2: to forty two overs a side. Nick Kelly and Reese

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Speaker 2: Martyhoo about to go out to bat for New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Henry nichols Dale on Mitchell, Tim Seifert, Michael Brace, wore

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Speaker 2: the captain, Mhammada Bas, Mitch Hay, Ben se As, Jacob Duffy,

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Speaker 2: Will O'Rourke. Shame they couldn't find a way to get

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Speaker 2: Addie as Shock a game in this series. He's in

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Speaker 2: the team the Auckland spinner, but has not has not

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Speaker 2: managed to get himself a game. I guess the pictures

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Speaker 2: have been kind of dirty green seamers for want of

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Speaker 2: a better phrase, haven't they. So just you know whether

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Speaker 2: it's too nil, isn't it?

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Speaker 5: Andy?

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Speaker 2: We won the first two of these, didn't we. It's

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Speaker 2: too nil? Yeah, So I know it's a shame they

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Speaker 2: didn't give him a crack addie as shock. Anyway, they've

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Speaker 2: made their decision and out they'll go New Zealand to

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Speaker 2: bat first against Pakistan very very shortly. Also this afternoon

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Speaker 2: the start of a Super Rugby quadruple header, so if

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Speaker 2: you wanted to, could you could follow along on Goldsport

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Speaker 2: and iHeartRadio. Four straight Super Rugby matches, five pasts to

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Speaker 2: this afternoon, one a Pacifica off the back of that

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Speaker 2: magnificent one over the Crusaders last time out, welcome the

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Speaker 2: war Retars to North harborst Stadium, So five pass two

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Speaker 2: for that one. The Warritars, of course, smarting after they

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Speaker 2: had fifty pot on them by the Hurricanes a week ago.

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Speaker 2: Then were up to Fiji, up to Suva, where the

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Speaker 2: Fiji and Drewer welcomed the Crusaders off the back of

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Speaker 2: that lost to mine A Pacifica and Crusaders fans, and

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Speaker 2: in fact many rugby fans will know that Fiji hasn't

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Speaker 2: necessarily been a happy hunting ground for other Crusaders. In fact,

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Speaker 2: I don't think they've won up there since the Fiji

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Speaker 2: and Drewer entered the competition. So they'll give that another

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Speaker 2: crack this afternoon from four to thirty five Eden Park

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Speaker 2: in Auckland Tonight five past seven. This is said to

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Speaker 2: be another little Bobby Dazzler the Blues against the Hurricanes.

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Speaker 2: The Blues trying to break out of this dreadful run

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Speaker 2: of form that has seen them with just one win

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Speaker 2: in their first six games as they look to defend

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Speaker 2: their Super Rugby Pacific title. The only thing that's keeping

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Speaker 2: them off the bottom of the table is the Fijian

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Speaker 2: drivers slightly inferior points differential. But the Blues welcome the

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Speaker 2: Hurricanes this afternoon themselves. They've had a pretty inconsistent season.

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Speaker 2: Took them a while to get going, but the win

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Speaker 2: over the Waratars last weekend potentially was a launching pad

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Speaker 2: after a narrow loss before the bye, a narrow wind

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Speaker 2: before the by against the Highlanders. So after two o'clock

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Speaker 2: we'll chat two members of both sides, Kurt Ecklund out

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Speaker 2: of the Blues, Duplessy Kadifi out of the Hurricanes, and

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Speaker 2: the final match tonight nine thirty five out West in Perth,

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Speaker 2: as the Highlanders, speaking of inconsistency, look to break out

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Speaker 2: of theirs. They started so promisingly the Highlanders didn't They

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Speaker 2: We sort of watched them at the start of the

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Speaker 2: season and you know, I thought maybe they were a

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Speaker 2: team that could perhaps rise above the stuff that they've

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Speaker 2: been doing in recent times. They had a couple of wins,

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Speaker 2: didn't they. They beat the Blues. That was I think

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Speaker 2: the one where everyone thought, Okay, this team's got a

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Speaker 2: bit about them. Then they went to Albany and beat

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Speaker 2: Mina Pacifica. They were up in the sort of the

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Speaker 2: top two, top three. Unfortunately, it's gone west a little

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Speaker 2: bit since then, So Highland is four, so more in

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Speaker 2: Pacific Warriortors five past two, Fiji Androi Crusaders four to

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Speaker 2: thirty five, Blues Hurricanes five past seven, Forced Highlanders nine

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Speaker 2: thirty five. All of those games are live and free

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Speaker 2: on gold Sport and on iHeartRadio. Now the game that

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Speaker 2: has been played was last night in the pouring rate,

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Speaker 2: the torrential rain that we saw in Hamilton last night,

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Speaker 2: and it was the Chiefs who got there. They were

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Speaker 2: ten all at halftime with the Reds thirteen ten with

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Speaker 2: about ten minutes to go, and then a couple of

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Speaker 2: late tries got them across the line. The Chiefs against

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Speaker 2: the Reds. Roger Randall assistant coach in charge of attack

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Speaker 2: is going to join us after one o'clock ause we

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Speaker 2: have a have a we chat about that. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's quite a bit of rugby to focus on this

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Speaker 2: afternoon as well. And let's not forget the football. Auckland FC.

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Speaker 2: I've got a game this afternoon against the Western Sydney

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Speaker 2: Wanders five o'clock out at Mount smart Well. I get

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Speaker 2: inside the Auckland FC camp as well before before we

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Speaker 2: knock the show on the head. Fourteen away from one

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Speaker 2: lines are open. Oh, eight hundred and eighty, ten eighty.

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Speaker 2: Anything you want to pick up on it can be

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Speaker 2: some rugby. We've got more of that to come after

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Speaker 2: one o'clock, but you can pick up on it early

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Speaker 2: if you like anything from the Jake Gleason interview or

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Speaker 2: anything that's caught your eye around the cricket. When New

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Speaker 2: Zealand have got an underweight against Pakistan batting first, I

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Speaker 2: Mount Bong and two forty drives a side. Reese Mauter,

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Speaker 2: you and Nick Kelly are out there to open the

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Speaker 2: batting for New Zealand Weekend Sport on News Talk SEP.

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Speaker 2: We're back after this.

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Speaker 1: Let's go from the trag Fields and the Court on

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Speaker 1: your home of Lord weekends for.

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Speaker 2: New TALKSB, News TALKSB and Weekend Sport. Ten to one

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Speaker 2: safe start for the black Caps, one without loss. They

647
00:34:16,067 --> 00:34:19,227
Speaker 2: are through the first over. Reece Martio and Nick Kelly

648
00:34:20,067 --> 00:34:24,107
Speaker 2: together some talk around the office yesterday and initiated by

649
00:34:24,107 --> 00:34:27,667
Speaker 2: me actually that a team of under thirty year old

650
00:34:27,707 --> 00:34:31,587
Speaker 2: black Caps might be a good chance to beat a

651
00:34:31,627 --> 00:34:35,027
Speaker 2: team of over thirty year old black Caps. Because what's

652
00:34:35,027 --> 00:34:38,947
Speaker 2: happened now is we've built this next generation depth in

653
00:34:38,987 --> 00:34:41,787
Speaker 2: the New Zealand side. It is now possible for the

654
00:34:41,787 --> 00:34:44,907
Speaker 2: black Caps to field a team of players with international

655
00:34:44,947 --> 00:34:48,907
Speaker 2: experience entirely under the age of thirty. Now bear in

656
00:34:48,947 --> 00:34:50,987
Speaker 2: mind this is probably for a white ball game. I'm

657
00:34:50,987 --> 00:34:53,507
Speaker 2: not sure you'd send this team out in a test match,

658
00:34:53,547 --> 00:34:55,747
Speaker 2: but you could in a One day international. Here it

659
00:34:55,827 --> 00:34:58,227
Speaker 2: is Reee Martyo who's playing in this current game. He's

660
00:34:58,227 --> 00:35:01,587
Speaker 2: twenty three years old, opening with Finn Allen who is

661
00:35:01,747 --> 00:35:04,827
Speaker 2: twenty five years old, and then Tim Robinson coming in

662
00:35:04,827 --> 00:35:06,987
Speaker 2: at first drop he's twenty two. Then you get to

663
00:35:07,147 --> 00:35:11,027
Speaker 2: the experienced core of the team, Rich and Ravendra he's

664
00:35:11,027 --> 00:35:14,267
Speaker 2: still only twenty five, and Glenn Phillips, he's twenty eight

665
00:35:14,347 --> 00:35:18,707
Speaker 2: years old, and then the freshly arrived but hugely exciting

666
00:35:19,187 --> 00:35:22,627
Speaker 2: twenty one year old Muhammad Abas. So there's your top six.

667
00:35:22,707 --> 00:35:26,267
Speaker 2: Then wicket keeper batsman Mitch Hay look at the other

668
00:35:26,307 --> 00:35:29,067
Speaker 2: day ninety nine not out, he's only twenty four. And

669
00:35:29,107 --> 00:35:33,067
Speaker 2: then there's a pace quartet Nathan Smith twenty six years old,

670
00:35:33,227 --> 00:35:37,147
Speaker 2: Zach Folks twenty two, Ben Sears twenty seven, and Will

671
00:35:37,187 --> 00:35:39,947
Speaker 2: O'Rourke who is twenty three. And if you wanted that

672
00:35:40,027 --> 00:35:42,467
Speaker 2: spin option, then Addie Ashock, as I say, who's played

673
00:35:42,947 --> 00:35:44,987
Speaker 2: a couple of games of white ball cricket for New Zealand.

674
00:35:44,987 --> 00:35:47,067
Speaker 2: He could play twenty two years old. That's a pretty

675
00:35:47,107 --> 00:35:56,227
Speaker 2: good team, don't you think, Mario Allen, Robinson, Revendra Phillips, Abbas, Hay, Smith, Folks, Sears, O'Rourke.

676
00:35:57,067 --> 00:36:00,027
Speaker 2: How do you reckon that team would go in a

677
00:36:00,067 --> 00:36:04,347
Speaker 2: T twenty game against an over thirties team. If you

678
00:36:04,387 --> 00:36:07,427
Speaker 2: wanted your over thirties team, you'd you could pick. I

679
00:36:07,467 --> 00:36:11,107
Speaker 2: guess you'd go Will Young and Devin Conway. Then came Williamson,

680
00:36:11,347 --> 00:36:13,227
Speaker 2: Mark Chapman, who I actually thought was younger than thirty,

681
00:36:13,267 --> 00:36:17,507
Speaker 2: but doesn't Daryl Mitchell, Tom Latham, Michael Bracewell, Mitchell Santner,

682
00:36:18,387 --> 00:36:20,587
Speaker 2: Kyle Jamison, another one I thought was under thirty, but

683
00:36:20,627 --> 00:36:24,947
Speaker 2: doesn't Matt Henry, Jacob Duffy. I mean that team would

684
00:36:25,027 --> 00:36:28,467
Speaker 2: probably win, wouldn't it, just for its greater experience, But

685
00:36:29,027 --> 00:36:30,747
Speaker 2: in a T twenty game, you think, well, the other

686
00:36:30,747 --> 00:36:33,947
Speaker 2: team's pretty exciting. I think what the point is, the

687
00:36:33,987 --> 00:36:37,027
Speaker 2: most salient point of the whole thing, is that we

688
00:36:37,067 --> 00:36:41,627
Speaker 2: are now able to even choose a team like that

689
00:36:41,627 --> 00:36:43,707
Speaker 2: that's under thirty, because for a long time I think

690
00:36:43,747 --> 00:36:47,907
Speaker 2: that was the discussion, wasn't it. There's no you know,

691
00:36:47,947 --> 00:36:50,547
Speaker 2: there's no regeneration going on, and for a long time

692
00:36:50,547 --> 00:36:53,347
Speaker 2: there didn't need to be, especially around the Test side

693
00:36:53,387 --> 00:36:55,667
Speaker 2: when they were doing so well and around the World

694
00:36:55,747 --> 00:36:59,147
Speaker 2: Test Championship, and you know, the store warts of that

695
00:36:59,307 --> 00:37:02,787
Speaker 2: of that time came Williamson and Ross Taylor, and then

696
00:37:02,827 --> 00:37:07,067
Speaker 2: of course the three pronged pace attack of Neil Wagner,

697
00:37:07,427 --> 00:37:11,507
Speaker 2: Trent Bolt, Tim Saudi with Jamison and latter times jumping

698
00:37:11,547 --> 00:37:14,307
Speaker 2: in there Matt Henry of course too. You know, we

699
00:37:14,347 --> 00:37:16,747
Speaker 2: didn't need to regenerate necessarily. But I think through the

700
00:37:16,787 --> 00:37:20,907
Speaker 2: white ball side they've definitely done it. There's no question

701
00:37:20,987 --> 00:37:23,707
Speaker 2: that that. You know, we've started to build a little

702
00:37:23,707 --> 00:37:25,907
Speaker 2: bit of depth in our in our white ball cricket,

703
00:37:25,987 --> 00:37:28,907
Speaker 2: so that's great to see. We might have a chat

704
00:37:28,947 --> 00:37:31,667
Speaker 2: about that tomorrow actually on the show. How has this

705
00:37:31,787 --> 00:37:34,027
Speaker 2: depth been built and is there you know, is there

706
00:37:34,027 --> 00:37:38,427
Speaker 2: a bright future for perhaps some you know, for those

707
00:37:38,467 --> 00:37:41,187
Speaker 2: players who then who once they gained some white ball experience,

708
00:37:41,667 --> 00:37:43,187
Speaker 2: then start to play a bit of red ball cricket.

709
00:37:43,267 --> 00:37:46,507
Speaker 2: Vicky says, I love this idea, Jason, bringing cricket to

710
00:37:46,587 --> 00:37:49,827
Speaker 2: a younger market as well. Make it happen. Make it happen. Look,

711
00:37:49,867 --> 00:37:51,587
Speaker 2: I don't know where they've put it in the calendar,

712
00:37:51,627 --> 00:37:53,867
Speaker 2: but it's only one day, isn't it. Surely they could

713
00:37:53,867 --> 00:37:57,107
Speaker 2: do it in over thirties and under thirties. I'm reasonably

714
00:37:57,147 --> 00:38:00,147
Speaker 2: sure they'd find they'd find a reason not to. But

715
00:38:00,627 --> 00:38:02,307
Speaker 2: I don't know. It feels like cricket would be a

716
00:38:02,347 --> 00:38:04,387
Speaker 2: game where you could do it. If you did it

717
00:38:04,427 --> 00:38:08,067
Speaker 2: in some other sports, slightly more contact sports, then you

718
00:38:08,147 --> 00:38:10,747
Speaker 2: might find yourself in a little bit of trouble. Hey,

719
00:38:10,787 --> 00:38:13,787
Speaker 2: Formula one as well. David Coltard is our guest on

720
00:38:13,867 --> 00:38:18,347
Speaker 2: the show tomorrow Oscar Piastre ended Friday on top at

721
00:38:18,387 --> 00:38:22,947
Speaker 2: the Japanese Grand Prix. He was fastest during free practice too. Now,

722
00:38:23,547 --> 00:38:27,147
Speaker 2: the session was disrupted by several red flags, the first

723
00:38:27,107 --> 00:38:31,107
Speaker 2: stoppage coming after a heavy crash for Jack doan Lando

724
00:38:31,227 --> 00:38:34,747
Speaker 2: Norris set the pace during the first free practice earlier

725
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Speaker 2: in the day, in a session that also saw home

726
00:38:37,427 --> 00:38:42,467
Speaker 2: favorite Yuki Sonoda making his debut for Red Ball. The

727
00:38:42,547 --> 00:38:44,787
Speaker 2: driver's return to action for the second hour of practice

728
00:38:44,787 --> 00:38:48,947
Speaker 2: around three local time, dry and sunny conditions. But if

729
00:38:48,987 --> 00:38:53,427
Speaker 2: you look at you look at the best practice results

730
00:38:53,427 --> 00:38:55,987
Speaker 2: in practice too, you don't have to go down too

731
00:38:55,987 --> 00:39:03,027
Speaker 2: far to find Liam Lawson. He was fifth fastest in

732
00:39:03,067 --> 00:39:06,987
Speaker 2: the second free practice session. So look, we all know

733
00:39:07,027 --> 00:39:10,307
Speaker 2: the story around Liam Lawson coming out of the Red

734
00:39:10,307 --> 00:39:14,387
Speaker 2: Bull team and into the Racing Balls team. But both

735
00:39:14,507 --> 00:39:18,907
Speaker 2: Racing Balls drivers Liam Lawson and Isaac Hadjar went faster

736
00:39:18,987 --> 00:39:23,867
Speaker 2: than both Red Bull drivers Max Forstappen and Yuki Sonoda,

737
00:39:23,907 --> 00:39:26,707
Speaker 2: who's all the way down the bottom. There was more

738
00:39:26,747 --> 00:39:27,947
Speaker 2: to it than that, and I don't really have the

739
00:39:27,987 --> 00:39:29,947
Speaker 2: time unfortunately to go into it. But what it does

740
00:39:30,027 --> 00:39:35,587
Speaker 2: prove is that Liam Lawson can drive fast even in

741
00:39:35,627 --> 00:39:39,427
Speaker 2: a supposedly slob a vehicle. Isaac Hadjar the same, so

742
00:39:39,547 --> 00:39:43,747
Speaker 2: Piastre was the fastest and practiced too. Then Lando Norris

743
00:39:43,747 --> 00:39:46,347
Speaker 2: then Hadjar, then Lewis Hamilton and the Ferrari and Liam

744
00:39:46,427 --> 00:39:49,187
Speaker 2: Lawson making up the top five. So clearly he's found

745
00:39:49,187 --> 00:39:54,507
Speaker 2: his mojo back, certainly in practice anyway, qualifying as this afternoon,

746
00:39:54,707 --> 00:39:56,707
Speaker 2: there's one more practice sestion, I think around three o'clock,

747
00:39:56,747 --> 00:39:59,627
Speaker 2: then qualifying later on tonight, and the race itself goes

748
00:39:59,667 --> 00:40:02,707
Speaker 2: at around five o'clock tomorrow afternoon. So yeah, David Coultart

749
00:40:02,827 --> 00:40:05,187
Speaker 2: is our guest just after midday tomorrow to break this

750
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Speaker 2: all down. Final few time X messages before we go

751
00:40:07,427 --> 00:40:10,227
Speaker 2: to the news. Pint of the over thirties would smash them.

752
00:40:10,507 --> 00:40:14,987
Speaker 2: They're mentally stronger, says mentally stronger. You know what, I

753
00:40:15,027 --> 00:40:17,787
Speaker 2: don't know that at MEDS in T twenty i'd back,

754
00:40:17,867 --> 00:40:21,307
Speaker 2: but I'd back my young guns in that game. But

755
00:40:21,347 --> 00:40:24,267
Speaker 2: the thing is also those older heads, there is no

756
00:40:24,347 --> 00:40:27,147
Speaker 2: way in the world that they would want to give

757
00:40:27,187 --> 00:40:29,987
Speaker 2: up bragging right to a bunch of young upstarts. So

758
00:40:30,067 --> 00:40:32,907
Speaker 2: maybe it would be the over thirties who who would

759
00:40:32,947 --> 00:40:34,787
Speaker 2: do what was required to get in the heads of

760
00:40:34,867 --> 00:40:38,227
Speaker 2: the Younger Brigade. I don't know, Shirley says, thanks for

761
00:40:38,267 --> 00:40:42,067
Speaker 2: the very revealing story from Jake Gleeson, courageous young man,

762
00:40:42,107 --> 00:40:44,067
Speaker 2: strong and his belief for his right to wellness after

763
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Speaker 2: all that medical misadventure. We wish him the best for

764
00:40:46,587 --> 00:40:50,707
Speaker 2: a long, happy and healthy life, wishing him every success.

765
00:40:50,707 --> 00:40:52,827
Speaker 2: Thank you surely. And another one from Mars after that.

766
00:40:52,867 --> 00:40:54,627
Speaker 2: And to be Pinty, I don't think I'll ever complain

767
00:40:55,307 --> 00:40:58,267
Speaker 2: about having a sore back ever again or saw knees.

768
00:40:58,907 --> 00:41:00,667
Speaker 2: I just feel so bad for Jake, which I'm sure

769
00:41:00,707 --> 00:41:02,787
Speaker 2: is the last thing he wants people feeling sorry for him.

770
00:41:02,787 --> 00:41:05,667
Speaker 2: But you honestly can't buy your health, mate, that's for sure.

771
00:41:05,787 --> 00:41:08,947
Speaker 2: Thanks Mars, and Peter says, great, I'd hear about the

772
00:41:08,987 --> 00:41:11,627
Speaker 2: overs and Unders, Pinty. Remember when the Junior All Blacks

773
00:41:11,667 --> 00:41:14,107
Speaker 2: played the All Blacks and Fat Graig we could do

774
00:41:14,147 --> 00:41:17,947
Speaker 2: that too, under twenty five All Blacks. This is over

775
00:41:18,027 --> 00:41:21,227
Speaker 2: twenty five All Blacks. Yeah, I mean, I've often said,

776
00:41:21,667 --> 00:41:24,507
Speaker 2: and the quest for you know, cut through. Nothing should

777
00:41:24,507 --> 00:41:28,227
Speaker 2: be off the table. Overs and Unders news next at

778
00:41:28,227 --> 00:41:30,707
Speaker 2: one o'clock and then Roger Randall out of the Chiefs.

779
00:41:31,947 --> 00:41:34,867
Speaker 1: It's the only place to discuss the biggest fours issues

780
00:41:34,947 --> 00:41:36,627
Speaker 1: on and after fields.

781
00:41:37,147 --> 00:41:38,387
Speaker 6: It's all on Winter.

782
00:41:38,227 --> 00:41:41,307
Speaker 1: And Sport with Jason Taine on your Home of.

783
00:41:41,267 --> 00:41:46,027
Speaker 2: Sport or one o seven. Welcome in. This is Weekend

784
00:41:46,067 --> 00:41:48,627
Speaker 2: Sport on News Talks dB. I'm Jason Pine. Andy McDonald

785
00:41:48,747 --> 00:41:53,947
Speaker 2: is the show's producer and brains. We're here until three.

786
00:41:55,387 --> 00:41:59,347
Speaker 2: Roger Randall shortly assistant coach at the Chiefs. They got

787
00:41:59,347 --> 00:42:01,787
Speaker 2: there last night. Man, how wet was it down there?

788
00:42:02,067 --> 00:42:02,267
Speaker 7: Oh?

789
00:42:02,307 --> 00:42:05,467
Speaker 2: My god, so west in Hamilton. But they got the

790
00:42:05,547 --> 00:42:08,027
Speaker 2: job done. Beating the Reds twenty seven to fifteen will

791
00:42:08,027 --> 00:42:11,547
Speaker 2: cover that off. Your thoughts on that game or the

792
00:42:11,587 --> 00:42:13,307
Speaker 2: four that are coming up today, I'm not sure that

793
00:42:13,347 --> 00:42:15,947
Speaker 2: you could with any degree of certainty pick the four

794
00:42:15,987 --> 00:42:20,707
Speaker 2: winners today. I mean, you obviously know who you think

795
00:42:21,747 --> 00:42:25,467
Speaker 2: might win, but I'm not sure that if we all

796
00:42:25,627 --> 00:42:27,307
Speaker 2: had a big bet, if we all just sent in

797
00:42:27,387 --> 00:42:30,747
Speaker 2: our four winners, we might even do that. Let's let's

798
00:42:30,747 --> 00:42:35,267
Speaker 2: do that. Set that up, will you. We'll do that shortly.

799
00:42:35,747 --> 00:42:37,987
Speaker 2: Send in your four winners from today and let's see

800
00:42:37,987 --> 00:42:41,867
Speaker 2: if anybody gets it right. Adam Peacock from across the

801
00:42:41,867 --> 00:42:44,027
Speaker 2: Tasman as well, will keep eyes on the cricket for

802
00:42:44,067 --> 00:42:48,307
Speaker 2: you two. Also, today I know around the country a

803
00:42:48,347 --> 00:42:50,587
Speaker 2: lot of winter sport is starting, a lot of you know,

804
00:42:50,627 --> 00:42:55,507
Speaker 2: the grassroots senior winter sport and football, rugby, rugby league,

805
00:42:55,707 --> 00:42:58,747
Speaker 2: netball such like. So it may well be that that's

806
00:42:58,747 --> 00:43:01,227
Speaker 2: where you're off to. You're heading off to begin your

807
00:43:01,307 --> 00:43:07,747
Speaker 2: season of lower grade football or praises, rugby, your master's

808
00:43:07,787 --> 00:43:10,427
Speaker 2: neb or hockey whatever it is, rugby league. Hope the

809
00:43:10,467 --> 00:43:15,027
Speaker 2: season goes well, and just remember the governing body of

810
00:43:15,067 --> 00:43:17,867
Speaker 2: your sport is not waiting on the edge of their

811
00:43:18,067 --> 00:43:22,027
Speaker 2: seat for your result to come through, So treat your

812
00:43:22,027 --> 00:43:27,387
Speaker 2: game in that fashion and it'll be better for everybody,

813
00:43:28,507 --> 00:43:32,387
Speaker 2: Andrew says Piney. Jake Gleeson's story brought back scary memories

814
00:43:32,907 --> 00:43:35,587
Speaker 2: six years ago when our son had an infection inside

815
00:43:35,627 --> 00:43:39,387
Speaker 2: his ankle. Ultrasound picked it up, no wound or spray

816
00:43:39,467 --> 00:43:42,507
Speaker 2: and he was rushed to Wellington Hospital and operated on immediately.

817
00:43:42,547 --> 00:43:45,667
Speaker 2: Spent two weeks in hospital recovering. Took another eighteen months

818
00:43:46,147 --> 00:43:49,107
Speaker 2: for him to mentally and physically recover. Jake spoke so

819
00:43:49,267 --> 00:43:53,947
Speaker 2: honestly about his situation. All the best of him. Keep

820
00:43:53,987 --> 00:43:56,227
Speaker 2: the great interviews coming. By the way, says Andrew, my

821
00:43:56,307 --> 00:43:58,747
Speaker 2: son's back playing football and duneed and today the season

822
00:43:58,787 --> 00:44:02,627
Speaker 2: starts today. Good stuff, excellent, excellent stuff. Are from the

823
00:44:02,627 --> 00:44:05,467
Speaker 2: cricket in Mount Monganui. New Zealand have lost their first

824
00:44:05,467 --> 00:44:08,827
Speaker 2: wik at Nick Kelly is the man out and so

825
00:44:08,947 --> 00:44:11,707
Speaker 2: through five overs, New Zealand are twenty four for one,

826
00:44:12,187 --> 00:44:15,387
Speaker 2: twenty four for one, Nick Kelly out four to three.

827
00:44:16,147 --> 00:44:18,627
Speaker 2: Reece Marty who is unbeaten on fourteen. His Canterbury team

828
00:44:18,667 --> 00:44:21,987
Speaker 2: mate Henry Nichols is there on two. New Zealand twenty

829
00:44:22,147 --> 00:44:25,307
Speaker 2: four for one at the end of the fifth over.

830
00:44:25,387 --> 00:44:28,627
Speaker 2: We'll keep you posted from the beautiful Bay Oval in

831
00:44:28,667 --> 00:44:32,187
Speaker 2: Mount Mortganui where Reecee Martio has just dispatched one over

832
00:44:32,267 --> 00:44:35,707
Speaker 2: midwicket for six, so thirty for one now good stuff.

833
00:44:35,947 --> 00:44:39,147
Speaker 2: The Chiefs back to the top of the Super Rugby

834
00:44:39,227 --> 00:44:42,627
Speaker 2: Ladder a twenty seven to fifteen win over the in

835
00:44:42,867 --> 00:44:45,867
Speaker 2: form Reds of Queensland and Hamilton last night.

836
00:44:46,267 --> 00:44:48,907
Speaker 1: They're now three outs advantage to the Chiefs.

837
00:44:51,787 --> 00:44:55,507
Speaker 8: Takeyaho makes an eighteen ten rampling.

838
00:44:55,827 --> 00:44:58,867
Speaker 9: Oh he gets through two, three, four, He's a capital

839
00:44:58,947 --> 00:44:59,427
Speaker 9: meters out.

840
00:44:59,427 --> 00:45:00,187
Speaker 6: He's a meter out.

841
00:45:00,427 --> 00:45:01,267
Speaker 10: Rose got any.

842
00:45:04,027 --> 00:45:07,187
Speaker 2: Saving a row Minty and Steve. We've gone and loving

843
00:45:07,187 --> 00:45:09,187
Speaker 2: it there in Hamilton. Last night it was so where

844
00:45:09,187 --> 00:45:11,227
Speaker 2: it wasn't it tries in the final ten minutes to

845
00:45:11,227 --> 00:45:14,227
Speaker 2: hook a summer Sauny Tokiajo and half bag zavir Row

846
00:45:14,307 --> 00:45:17,067
Speaker 2: getting the Chiefs across the line after the score was

847
00:45:17,067 --> 00:45:21,267
Speaker 2: locked at ten all at halftime. Chiefs assistant coach Roger

848
00:45:21,347 --> 00:45:23,787
Speaker 2: Randall is with us here on weekend Sport. Thanks for

849
00:45:23,827 --> 00:45:26,147
Speaker 2: joining us, Roger. Is it any better down there today

850
00:45:26,187 --> 00:45:28,227
Speaker 2: in Hamilton? Weather wise? Mate?

851
00:45:28,667 --> 00:45:32,427
Speaker 11: Pretty much was raining all from Thursday night or yesterday

852
00:45:32,627 --> 00:45:35,627
Speaker 11: until to start the kick off and she's a blue

853
00:45:35,667 --> 00:45:36,387
Speaker 11: sky at the moment.

854
00:45:38,667 --> 00:45:41,107
Speaker 2: The irony, the irony. How much did the weather I

855
00:45:41,147 --> 00:45:43,587
Speaker 2: mean it looked terrible on TV. How much did the

856
00:45:43,627 --> 00:45:45,267
Speaker 2: conditions affect your game plan?

857
00:45:46,787 --> 00:45:50,307
Speaker 11: Oh? Yeah, both teams MO day game plan. We knew

858
00:45:50,307 --> 00:45:52,507
Speaker 11: it was going to be wet. I think midweek we

859
00:45:54,467 --> 00:45:57,307
Speaker 11: saw what was going to happen with the weather. You know,

860
00:45:57,347 --> 00:45:59,747
Speaker 11: you make adjust months, but it's still really really difficult.

861
00:46:00,027 --> 00:46:04,507
Speaker 11: Havcoon raiser before our game. So the field we held

862
00:46:04,547 --> 00:46:08,107
Speaker 11: up pretty well, but she's never going to be a

863
00:46:08,107 --> 00:46:11,867
Speaker 11: pretty game. But that we got the job done.

864
00:46:12,107 --> 00:46:15,587
Speaker 2: Yeah, with ball in hand it must obviously it changes

865
00:46:15,627 --> 00:46:18,427
Speaker 2: things completely. So when you're when you're devising your attacking

866
00:46:18,467 --> 00:46:20,867
Speaker 2: strategies and you you know, you look at the forecast

867
00:46:20,867 --> 00:46:22,787
Speaker 2: and you say, man, it's going to absolutely team down.

868
00:46:23,187 --> 00:46:24,907
Speaker 2: How much does that change the way you put your

869
00:46:24,907 --> 00:46:25,587
Speaker 2: attack together.

870
00:46:27,987 --> 00:46:28,147
Speaker 12: Oh?

871
00:46:28,227 --> 00:46:31,227
Speaker 11: Yeah, you have to have a pretty good set piece,

872
00:46:32,747 --> 00:46:35,867
Speaker 11: and Scrum was going really rough our line out. I

873
00:46:35,907 --> 00:46:38,067
Speaker 11: had a few wobbles in the first half, I think

874
00:46:38,107 --> 00:46:42,547
Speaker 11: both both teams, and then second half come good. Having

875
00:46:42,547 --> 00:46:45,787
Speaker 11: that set piece carrying pain of discipline, you know, went

876
00:46:45,867 --> 00:46:48,867
Speaker 11: in the year with some of the contestables. So when

877
00:46:48,907 --> 00:46:52,867
Speaker 11: we were able to control that, you know, we're able

878
00:46:52,907 --> 00:46:56,267
Speaker 11: to a bit of pressure. But when we weren't, that

879
00:46:56,387 --> 00:46:59,627
Speaker 11: gave them entries into our twenty two and it made

880
00:46:59,587 --> 00:47:00,787
Speaker 11: it difficult for ourselves.

881
00:47:00,987 --> 00:47:03,107
Speaker 2: The defense of the rolling mall though they're rolling all,

882
00:47:03,147 --> 00:47:05,947
Speaker 2: I mean, your defense of it was was pretty good.

883
00:47:06,547 --> 00:47:08,707
Speaker 2: How how pleasing was it that you were able to

884
00:47:08,867 --> 00:47:10,907
Speaker 2: withstand that kind of pressure that they were putting on you.

885
00:47:12,867 --> 00:47:19,547
Speaker 11: Yeah, John O Gibson. The forwards done a great job there. Yeah,

886
00:47:19,627 --> 00:47:23,507
Speaker 11: Like you said, they haven't kicked a goal penalty goal

887
00:47:23,587 --> 00:47:26,907
Speaker 11: this year any of their game, so they often kept

888
00:47:26,907 --> 00:47:29,787
Speaker 11: to the sideline and give them a nudge and back

889
00:47:29,827 --> 00:47:34,507
Speaker 11: their scrums. So they've come to Hamilton with a pretty

890
00:47:36,107 --> 00:47:40,187
Speaker 11: pretty uh obvious game plan, game plan that's really suited them.

891
00:47:40,387 --> 00:47:44,547
Speaker 11: And yeah for the forwards to withstand that was pleasing

892
00:47:45,107 --> 00:47:45,507
Speaker 11: early in.

893
00:47:45,507 --> 00:47:48,947
Speaker 2: The second half the run and near triy for Harry

894
00:47:49,027 --> 00:47:51,987
Speaker 2: McLaughlan Phillips. Uh, did you think it got that down

895
00:47:52,027 --> 00:47:52,347
Speaker 2: at first?

896
00:47:52,427 --> 00:47:52,627
Speaker 5: Luck?

897
00:47:55,187 --> 00:47:58,907
Speaker 11: No, No, we thought it had knocked on a rolled

898
00:47:58,907 --> 00:48:02,547
Speaker 11: out of his because we have about five angles up

899
00:48:02,547 --> 00:48:05,107
Speaker 11: at our box, so we're just waiting for them to

900
00:48:05,107 --> 00:48:08,587
Speaker 11: go to the view five. Frequently the five rolls out.

901
00:48:08,627 --> 00:48:12,347
Speaker 11: But yeah, I was touch and go there when we

902
00:48:12,347 --> 00:48:15,867
Speaker 11: were listening to the combos between the TMO and in

903
00:48:15,947 --> 00:48:16,467
Speaker 11: the referee.

904
00:48:16,627 --> 00:48:18,947
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's definitely he hasn't got it down,

905
00:48:18,987 --> 00:48:21,787
Speaker 2: but I mean you look at it and yeah, you

906
00:48:21,787 --> 00:48:23,547
Speaker 2: can see why they took so long, but at least

907
00:48:23,587 --> 00:48:26,027
Speaker 2: they reached the right decision and then you know, you

908
00:48:26,347 --> 00:48:29,027
Speaker 2: pulled away at the end thirteen ten ahead. I think

909
00:48:29,067 --> 00:48:31,467
Speaker 2: as we reached the seventy minute mark, what do you

910
00:48:31,507 --> 00:48:33,187
Speaker 2: think gave you the ability to pull away with those

911
00:48:33,187 --> 00:48:33,867
Speaker 2: two late tries?

912
00:48:36,867 --> 00:48:39,187
Speaker 11: Probably just going back to was talked about before getting

913
00:48:39,187 --> 00:48:44,907
Speaker 11: our set piece right, Our discipline was good. We're getting

914
00:48:44,907 --> 00:48:47,347
Speaker 11: our catching our high balls and then we're able to

915
00:48:48,747 --> 00:48:51,107
Speaker 11: exactly some pressure our kick game into the twenty two.

916
00:48:51,667 --> 00:48:54,467
Speaker 11: Just jacb come on and got a fifty to twenty two.

917
00:48:55,307 --> 00:48:59,467
Speaker 11: So that was outstanding. And yeah, got our set piece

918
00:48:59,507 --> 00:49:03,667
Speaker 11: sorted and we're able to get the big funny over

919
00:49:03,827 --> 00:49:06,667
Speaker 11: for one of the more tries and the xavier just

920
00:49:07,747 --> 00:49:10,427
Speaker 11: through the amount of pressure we put in put them

921
00:49:10,707 --> 00:49:13,627
Speaker 11: through in the twenty two. Come up with those couple

922
00:49:13,627 --> 00:49:14,467
Speaker 11: of chores.

923
00:49:14,707 --> 00:49:17,027
Speaker 2: You mentioned Josh Jacob there. How have you assist his

924
00:49:17,107 --> 00:49:18,267
Speaker 2: development this year?

925
00:49:19,507 --> 00:49:23,307
Speaker 11: Oh, outstanding. He's he's probably had more super games than

926
00:49:23,307 --> 00:49:27,027
Speaker 11: his now. So he's been in the twenty three every

927
00:49:27,067 --> 00:49:33,147
Speaker 11: week and said about four or five starts come on

928
00:49:33,227 --> 00:49:36,187
Speaker 11: at critical times last twenty minutes to ten and they

929
00:49:36,267 --> 00:49:40,067
Speaker 11: made some beat the fifteen. So even just watching Damian

930
00:49:40,187 --> 00:49:44,347
Speaker 11: and how he runs a week and has been outstanding

931
00:49:44,387 --> 00:49:49,227
Speaker 11: for us as a young a young player. You know

932
00:49:49,467 --> 00:49:56,587
Speaker 11: that's there's been prousting to her a super super rugby

933
00:49:56,627 --> 00:49:58,947
Speaker 11: team to lead them around the field. Like I said,

934
00:49:58,947 --> 00:50:03,947
Speaker 11: without a hell of a lot of EBC experience, he's

935
00:50:04,027 --> 00:50:06,307
Speaker 11: doing a great job at the moment. He's only go

936
00:50:06,387 --> 00:50:06,907
Speaker 11: to get better.

937
00:50:07,027 --> 00:50:09,387
Speaker 2: He must have been quite a levelhead as well, Roger,

938
00:50:09,427 --> 00:50:11,347
Speaker 2: because a lot of guys, I mean, everybody wants to

939
00:50:11,347 --> 00:50:13,987
Speaker 2: play right and he did for the first three games

940
00:50:13,987 --> 00:50:16,827
Speaker 2: while Seawan Stevenson was away and Damien was playing fullback.

941
00:50:16,867 --> 00:50:19,147
Speaker 2: But but you know, and now that Damien McKenzie has

942
00:50:19,147 --> 00:50:22,627
Speaker 2: just signed a new four year deal, Josh Jacob must

943
00:50:22,627 --> 00:50:24,907
Speaker 2: have a you know, a pretty good outlook on it all,

944
00:50:24,907 --> 00:50:27,787
Speaker 2: thinking okay, well I'll stay and I'll benefit from being here,

945
00:50:27,867 --> 00:50:30,267
Speaker 2: even if it is behind Damien McKenzie.

946
00:50:32,667 --> 00:50:35,187
Speaker 11: Yeah, like I said, we're both in the twenty three

947
00:50:35,227 --> 00:50:39,227
Speaker 11: and give him some real good game time. So Josh

948
00:50:39,347 --> 00:50:43,507
Speaker 11: is learning a lot and he's with his own spin

949
00:50:43,627 --> 00:50:47,907
Speaker 11: on things. He's got some different attributes to Damon as well,

950
00:50:47,947 --> 00:50:51,507
Speaker 11: which are really beneficial for us. So he's gone, good guns.

951
00:50:51,547 --> 00:50:51,987
Speaker 11: We love him.

952
00:50:52,267 --> 00:50:54,747
Speaker 2: Sean Stevenson one hundred games for the Chiefs. Can you

953
00:50:54,987 --> 00:50:57,347
Speaker 2: articulate his contribution to your site?

954
00:50:59,147 --> 00:51:01,307
Speaker 11: Well, yeah, he's not many people will be able to

955
00:51:01,387 --> 00:51:06,227
Speaker 11: do that. So, yeah, come back from Japan and get

956
00:51:06,227 --> 00:51:08,427
Speaker 11: these you know, those last three or four games that

957
00:51:08,507 --> 00:51:12,067
Speaker 11: he was after and you know, hopefully put into the season. Well,

958
00:51:12,107 --> 00:51:15,867
Speaker 11: but reflect back on the last ten years, he's you

959
00:51:15,907 --> 00:51:17,867
Speaker 11: know how much he's grown. I guess as a person

960
00:51:17,907 --> 00:51:23,187
Speaker 11: as well, seen that he's quite enigmatic. I guess during

961
00:51:23,227 --> 00:51:27,427
Speaker 11: the during that that career where fish really doores do

962
00:51:27,547 --> 00:51:29,747
Speaker 11: some some really great stuff and got in and out

963
00:51:29,747 --> 00:51:31,827
Speaker 11: of the team. But like in the last three or

964
00:51:31,827 --> 00:51:35,947
Speaker 11: four years, this last three years, he's really just owned

965
00:51:36,107 --> 00:51:40,427
Speaker 11: his position and probably one of our first backs packed

966
00:51:40,627 --> 00:51:46,147
Speaker 11: each week's stuff because of his consistency giving assistent game time,

967
00:51:46,227 --> 00:51:49,107
Speaker 11: which helps him, you know, showcase the things he's really

968
00:51:49,147 --> 00:51:52,587
Speaker 11: really good at, which is attacking ability. So you know,

969
00:51:52,587 --> 00:51:53,867
Speaker 11: he's a big, big cog.

970
00:51:53,667 --> 00:51:57,667
Speaker 2: For us, no doubt. And interesting situation with obviously Clayton McMillan,

971
00:51:57,787 --> 00:51:59,507
Speaker 2: you know, leaving at the end of the season that

972
00:51:59,587 --> 00:52:02,067
Speaker 2: was telegraphed a long way out. How has that changed

973
00:52:02,107 --> 00:52:04,747
Speaker 2: things in the coaching group or has it not?

974
00:52:06,427 --> 00:52:09,347
Speaker 11: Not really other than Haven having to shop more copies for.

975
00:52:09,387 --> 00:52:11,347
Speaker 6: The coaches fair enough, fair enough?

976
00:52:12,387 --> 00:52:15,947
Speaker 11: Yeah no, No, it's a B A U. And then

977
00:52:16,227 --> 00:52:21,907
Speaker 11: that's you did say, that's what we're doing. So by

978
00:52:21,987 --> 00:52:26,387
Speaker 11: a couple of jokes generally from me towards them, it's

979
00:52:26,427 --> 00:52:30,027
Speaker 11: everybody just pretty focused about getting the job done. He's

980
00:52:30,027 --> 00:52:33,027
Speaker 11: been awesome, like he's you know, he's making sure he

981
00:52:33,107 --> 00:52:36,307
Speaker 11: keeps having on the track as well. So you know,

982
00:52:36,347 --> 00:52:39,347
Speaker 11: these players that will go off contract at in a

983
00:52:39,507 --> 00:52:42,987
Speaker 11: year and coaches as well, firs part of the business.

984
00:52:43,027 --> 00:52:45,507
Speaker 11: And we've got a job to do this year and.

985
00:52:45,467 --> 00:52:47,347
Speaker 2: Just back to the team to finish. I mean, this

986
00:52:47,427 --> 00:52:49,827
Speaker 2: feels like last year. It feels like the year before.

987
00:52:49,867 --> 00:52:52,547
Speaker 2: You made it to the Grand Final both times without

988
00:52:52,547 --> 00:52:55,107
Speaker 2: being able to take that final step. Do you I

989
00:52:55,147 --> 00:52:56,747
Speaker 2: don't know. Do you have to lose a couple to

990
00:52:56,787 --> 00:52:57,187
Speaker 2: win one?

991
00:52:57,267 --> 00:52:57,507
Speaker 13: Is that?

992
00:52:57,627 --> 00:52:59,947
Speaker 2: Is that accurate? Do you feel in a better shape

993
00:52:59,987 --> 00:53:01,547
Speaker 2: this time around? Can you win this thing?

994
00:53:03,307 --> 00:53:03,507
Speaker 4: Yeah?

995
00:53:03,507 --> 00:53:06,907
Speaker 11: We believe we can, and I know there's a few

996
00:53:06,907 --> 00:53:09,267
Speaker 11: other teams that believe the same thing. So we're still

997
00:53:09,267 --> 00:53:13,387
Speaker 11: only eight nine rounds into the competition, so there's a

998
00:53:13,427 --> 00:53:15,107
Speaker 11: lot of rugby to be played yet to try and

999
00:53:15,107 --> 00:53:17,467
Speaker 11: get into the top six. So then, you know, I

1000
00:53:17,507 --> 00:53:19,067
Speaker 11: think good enough again in the top six, you's just

1001
00:53:19,107 --> 00:53:22,307
Speaker 11: trying to get enough points to be potentially in the

1002
00:53:22,307 --> 00:53:25,947
Speaker 11: top two and get towards those home semis. But there's

1003
00:53:25,987 --> 00:53:32,347
Speaker 11: a lot of rugby to be played, and yeah, so hopefully,

1004
00:53:32,827 --> 00:53:35,227
Speaker 11: but you know, I'll bully, I'll tell you in about

1005
00:53:35,547 --> 00:53:36,187
Speaker 11: two months time.

1006
00:53:36,227 --> 00:53:38,107
Speaker 2: I was both fair enough, we'll have a chat then, Hey,

1007
00:53:38,147 --> 00:53:41,067
Speaker 2: congrats on the win last night. That Roger. Enjoy the

1008
00:53:41,107 --> 00:53:42,147
Speaker 2: sunshine and the tron.

1009
00:53:41,987 --> 00:53:45,867
Speaker 11: Today, mate, all do, thank you, thank.

1010
00:53:45,747 --> 00:53:47,987
Speaker 2: You, Roger, Roger Randle, that assistant coach of the Chiefs

1011
00:53:48,427 --> 00:53:52,027
Speaker 2: in charge of attack, which I'm sure was a slightly

1012
00:53:52,027 --> 00:53:54,347
Speaker 2: different brief as he said last night with all that rain.

1013
00:53:54,427 --> 00:53:56,227
Speaker 2: But the Chiefs, well they got the job done, didn't

1014
00:53:56,267 --> 00:53:58,507
Speaker 2: They back to the top. They jumped over the top

1015
00:53:58,547 --> 00:54:01,027
Speaker 2: of the Reds who were top before last night. So

1016
00:54:01,107 --> 00:54:03,547
Speaker 2: the Chiefs twenty six points from their seven games, the

1017
00:54:03,587 --> 00:54:07,227
Speaker 2: Reds twenty three from their seven games. Then the Crusaders

1018
00:54:07,227 --> 00:54:10,507
Speaker 2: on nineteen, the Brumbies on nineteen, the Warritars on seventeen,

1019
00:54:10,547 --> 00:54:15,507
Speaker 2: the Fourth on fifteen. All four Australian sides inside the

1020
00:54:15,507 --> 00:54:18,627
Speaker 2: top six. Now that might change, of course, Hurricanes Highlanders

1021
00:54:18,747 --> 00:54:21,027
Speaker 2: could jump into the top six depending on how their

1022
00:54:21,067 --> 00:54:25,107
Speaker 2: results go today. Even Wheer Pacifica could do that if

1023
00:54:25,147 --> 00:54:27,027
Speaker 2: they get all five points against the Wartars. But the

1024
00:54:27,067 --> 00:54:30,627
Speaker 2: fact remains, it's you know, it's what we've talked about

1025
00:54:30,667 --> 00:54:34,187
Speaker 2: for a long time, a competition where the Australian sides

1026
00:54:34,187 --> 00:54:39,427
Speaker 2: are competitive. Always disappointing, says this text when the Chiefs

1027
00:54:39,867 --> 00:54:42,627
Speaker 2: play on Friday night, because the quality of the remaining

1028
00:54:42,707 --> 00:54:46,627
Speaker 2: games over the weekend is that much poor. Yes, spoken

1029
00:54:46,707 --> 00:54:50,507
Speaker 2: like a true Chiefs fan. They are favorites something Chiefs fans,

1030
00:54:50,547 --> 00:54:54,227
Speaker 2: Are you willing to embrace the favorites tag? Because it

1031
00:54:54,267 --> 00:54:55,467
Speaker 2: seems to me, and I think I've said this on

1032
00:54:55,827 --> 00:54:58,387
Speaker 2: the show quite often, that when the Chiefs do well,

1033
00:54:58,387 --> 00:55:00,347
Speaker 2: which is most of the time in the last three years,

1034
00:55:00,387 --> 00:55:02,947
Speaker 2: nobody from that part of the country is willing to

1035
00:55:02,987 --> 00:55:05,987
Speaker 2: come on and beat your chest. You're just too humble

1036
00:55:06,027 --> 00:55:11,147
Speaker 2: about But maybe that's because of what happened last year

1037
00:55:11,147 --> 00:55:13,667
Speaker 2: and the year before two years ago, in particular twenty

1038
00:55:13,667 --> 00:55:15,827
Speaker 2: twenty three, the Chiefs were by far and away the

1039
00:55:15,867 --> 00:55:19,427
Speaker 2: best team right across the round robin into the finals,

1040
00:55:19,427 --> 00:55:22,147
Speaker 2: and they hosted the final where the Crusaders came up

1041
00:55:22,187 --> 00:55:25,747
Speaker 2: and did a job on you and raised a got

1042
00:55:25,747 --> 00:55:28,147
Speaker 2: his breakdancing routine out for the last time as the

1043
00:55:28,187 --> 00:55:30,427
Speaker 2: Crusaders won. There was seventh in a row. Whatever it

1044
00:55:30,467 --> 00:55:34,827
Speaker 2: was last year, not perhaps quite as dominant across the season,

1045
00:55:34,867 --> 00:55:38,947
Speaker 2: but sensational performance down in Wellington to beat the Hurricanes

1046
00:55:38,947 --> 00:55:40,707
Speaker 2: and then into the final where they were well beaten

1047
00:55:40,787 --> 00:55:43,867
Speaker 2: by the Blues. So yeah, I think last season was

1048
00:55:43,907 --> 00:55:45,827
Speaker 2: a bit of a step back from twenty twenty three,

1049
00:55:46,267 --> 00:55:50,507
Speaker 2: but still into the final. It just seems like this

1050
00:55:50,627 --> 00:55:53,627
Speaker 2: year well, I mean, the Blues have completely fallen off

1051
00:55:53,627 --> 00:55:56,107
Speaker 2: a cliff. Now that might change, obviously, but at the

1052
00:55:56,107 --> 00:55:58,547
Speaker 2: moment that's the way it looks. The Crusaders, I think

1053
00:55:58,587 --> 00:56:00,947
Speaker 2: there was a bit of a well, bit of optimism,

1054
00:56:01,307 --> 00:56:04,347
Speaker 2: a fair degree of optimism when they beat the Hurricanes

1055
00:56:04,347 --> 00:56:06,147
Speaker 2: first up, but then lost to the Chiefs. Then three

1056
00:56:06,187 --> 00:56:08,587
Speaker 2: were in a row, including that big win over the

1057
00:56:08,587 --> 00:56:14,387
Speaker 2: Blues at Eden Park, but then a lost to Mowana Pacifica.

1058
00:56:15,947 --> 00:56:18,107
Speaker 2: So the drew of this afternoon, then the Hurricanes, then

1059
00:56:18,147 --> 00:56:19,827
Speaker 2: the Blues, then the Highlanders. So the Crusader's got a

1060
00:56:19,827 --> 00:56:23,067
Speaker 2: bit of a bit of interesting match play coming up.

1061
00:56:23,787 --> 00:56:25,867
Speaker 2: So if it's not the Chiefs who are favorites, then

1062
00:56:25,907 --> 00:56:30,107
Speaker 2: who is it. I'm almost certain it's not the Blues.

1063
00:56:30,427 --> 00:56:33,467
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure it's not the Crusaders. The only other

1064
00:56:33,507 --> 00:56:35,467
Speaker 2: team rarely I guess you could put in the conversation

1065
00:56:35,507 --> 00:56:38,827
Speaker 2: would be the Brumbies, although they've had three losses from

1066
00:56:38,907 --> 00:56:43,067
Speaker 2: their seven games. Who is Super Rugby favorite and can

1067
00:56:43,147 --> 00:56:46,547
Speaker 2: we look at this remaining can we look at this

1068
00:56:47,267 --> 00:56:50,947
Speaker 2: remaining quadrant of games? Is that even a word? The

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00:56:51,107 --> 00:56:54,267
Speaker 2: four games to come up today and try and pick

1070
00:56:54,307 --> 00:56:57,027
Speaker 2: winners for them. Jump on the phone and join me

1071
00:56:57,027 --> 00:56:59,307
Speaker 2: in a game of pick the winner. Eight hundred and

1072
00:56:59,307 --> 00:57:02,067
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty is our number. We'd love you to

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00:57:02,067 --> 00:57:06,227
Speaker 2: do that. I've got Moonda pacifica Warratas Fiji and Drewer Crusaders, Blues,

1074
00:57:06,507 --> 00:57:11,547
Speaker 2: Raccainn's Force Highlanders, And this is what we have always wanted.

1075
00:57:13,427 --> 00:57:16,707
Speaker 2: Four games where really you don't know who would be

1076
00:57:16,747 --> 00:57:19,147
Speaker 2: the biggest favorite in all of those games. I'd say

1077
00:57:19,187 --> 00:57:23,947
Speaker 2: probably I was going to say the Crusaders over in Fiji,

1078
00:57:23,987 --> 00:57:26,467
Speaker 2: but they haven't won over there. Maybe the Force would

1079
00:57:26,467 --> 00:57:30,227
Speaker 2: be the biggest favorites against the Highlanders. Oh, eight hundred

1080
00:57:30,267 --> 00:57:32,747
Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty, give us a hol let's go

1081
00:57:32,747 --> 00:57:34,027
Speaker 2: through some of these games. Or even if you just

1082
00:57:34,067 --> 00:57:35,347
Speaker 2: want to pick the winner of one or two, I

1083
00:57:35,387 --> 00:57:37,067
Speaker 2: want to make a point about the Chiefs or any

1084
00:57:37,107 --> 00:57:40,627
Speaker 2: of your favorite teams or your favorite team in Super Rugby.

1085
00:57:40,667 --> 00:57:42,587
Speaker 2: We're great to get your thoughts on it. O eight

1086
00:57:42,587 --> 00:57:46,187
Speaker 2: one hundred eighty ten eighty it is what are we?

1087
00:57:46,227 --> 00:57:48,827
Speaker 2: Twenty three past one. Quick update from the cricket where

1088
00:57:49,587 --> 00:57:53,947
Speaker 2: we threw to forty six with not without lost forty

1089
00:57:53,947 --> 00:57:57,547
Speaker 2: six for one, forty six for one New Zealand at

1090
00:57:57,547 --> 00:58:00,467
Speaker 2: the end of the eighth over Mari. You're there on

1091
00:58:00,547 --> 00:58:05,867
Speaker 2: thirty Henry Nichols alongside unbeaten on nine forty six for

1092
00:58:05,947 --> 00:58:07,947
Speaker 2: one News Zeland having been sent in and what is

1093
00:58:07,947 --> 00:58:11,827
Speaker 2: now a forty two over a side match one twenty four.

1094
00:58:11,867 --> 00:58:14,427
Speaker 2: Back with your calls after this on weekend Sport one.

1095
00:58:14,587 --> 00:58:19,827
Speaker 1: Crutch Hold Engaged Weekends for It with Jason Pave and GJ.

1096
00:58:19,987 --> 00:58:24,107
Speaker 1: Gunnerhomes New Zealand's most trusted home builder News Talk to Baby.

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00:58:24,027 --> 00:58:26,827
Speaker 2: One twenty seven. Our text line is nine two ninety two.

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00:58:27,107 --> 00:58:31,427
Speaker 2: Text me the winners these four games. Mina Pacific out Warritas.

1099
00:58:31,667 --> 00:58:35,507
Speaker 2: I've got Mana Pacifica winning that Fiji and Drewer Crusaders.

1100
00:58:36,427 --> 00:58:41,027
Speaker 2: I've got the Drawer winning that Blues Hurricanes. Of course,

1101
00:58:41,067 --> 00:58:48,627
Speaker 2: I'd have the Hurricanes winning that Force Highlanders Force Highlanders. Yeah,

1102
00:58:48,827 --> 00:58:52,947
Speaker 2: i think I've got the Highlanders winning that. So Maaanda Pacificer,

1103
00:58:53,067 --> 00:58:57,107
Speaker 2: Fiji and Drewer Hurricanes Highlanders for me nine two nine two,

1104
00:58:58,307 --> 00:59:00,147
Speaker 2: fire them through. Let's see how close we can get.

1105
00:59:00,147 --> 00:59:01,867
Speaker 2: I don't I don't. As I said before, I don't

1106
00:59:01,907 --> 00:59:05,227
Speaker 2: give anybody a better than fifty to fifty chance of

1107
00:59:05,227 --> 00:59:08,707
Speaker 2: picking four winners today. If you can't, then you're better

1108
00:59:08,707 --> 00:59:09,267
Speaker 2: than most of us.

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00:59:09,267 --> 00:59:10,987
Speaker 6: Hello, Calvin, they're going to.

1110
00:59:10,947 --> 00:59:12,987
Speaker 13: Athenn to you, Jason. From where I live here in

1111
00:59:12,987 --> 00:59:15,747
Speaker 13: the tron I when they're playing rugby at what I

1112
00:59:15,787 --> 00:59:18,627
Speaker 13: still call Rugby Park, the stadium, I can see the

1113
00:59:18,787 --> 00:59:22,947
Speaker 13: lights and hear the old fireworks and see them going off.

1114
00:59:23,227 --> 00:59:27,427
Speaker 13: But I'm I'm only a follow of rugby union, you know,

1115
00:59:27,667 --> 00:59:30,227
Speaker 13: but from a distance. But I would definitely put down

1116
00:59:30,267 --> 00:59:36,627
Speaker 13: the Chiefs, and of course the Damien McKenzie. His class

1117
00:59:36,747 --> 00:59:39,507
Speaker 13: is one of the best, if not the best he's

1118
00:59:39,547 --> 00:59:42,067
Speaker 13: in a rugby player. And then there at the moment,

1119
00:59:42,107 --> 00:59:45,867
Speaker 13: isn't it. It's only in recent weeks a lot of

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00:59:45,867 --> 00:59:48,507
Speaker 13: people were boo pooingham putting him down.

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00:59:48,667 --> 00:59:50,227
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just on the new four year deal,

1122
00:59:50,267 --> 00:59:53,027
Speaker 2: hasn't he Calvin? So clearly, clearly the powers that be

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00:59:53,107 --> 00:59:54,627
Speaker 2: at the Chiefs are big fans.

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Speaker 13: Now my brain's getting on for eighty four years of age.

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00:59:58,267 --> 01:00:03,107
Speaker 13: Now I still rightly or wrongly, sendra a recall Damien

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01:00:03,187 --> 01:00:07,187
Speaker 13: McKenzie being in the New Zealand marry or was he

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01:00:07,627 --> 01:00:09,227
Speaker 13: was that correct? Or am I dreaming that?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure you're right there. I don't think. I

1130
01:00:11,347 --> 01:00:14,107
Speaker 2: don't think you're you've you've knotted off and are having

1131
01:00:14,107 --> 01:00:16,027
Speaker 2: a dream about that, Calvin. We'll check, but I'm pretty

1132
01:00:16,027 --> 01:00:18,067
Speaker 2: sure he's played for the New Zealand Molory Year or

1133
01:00:18,107 --> 01:00:18,987
Speaker 2: the Moldy All Blacks.

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01:00:19,467 --> 01:00:21,587
Speaker 13: Yeah, well he's a he's a good man. He's got

1135
01:00:22,667 --> 01:00:26,387
Speaker 13: he's a redhead, you know, a ginger blue eyes and

1136
01:00:26,467 --> 01:00:29,187
Speaker 13: white skin soas and he's a married team good on him.

1137
01:00:29,187 --> 01:00:32,907
Speaker 13: He's only a small bugger too. No, he's going great

1138
01:00:32,947 --> 01:00:34,427
Speaker 13: now that you put me down for the Chiefs a

1139
01:00:34,427 --> 01:00:34,907
Speaker 13: big time.

1140
01:00:35,787 --> 01:00:37,907
Speaker 2: Well, well I will, Calvin, And there was never any

1141
01:00:37,947 --> 01:00:40,507
Speaker 2: doubt that you would go that way. Yes, he has.

1142
01:00:41,067 --> 01:00:43,827
Speaker 2: He has played for the Maori All Blacks. Damien McKenzie,

1143
01:00:44,947 --> 01:00:48,067
Speaker 2: just getting confirmation of that that he I'm just trying

1144
01:00:48,067 --> 01:00:51,027
Speaker 2: to get the against the lines in twenty seventeen, Thank

1145
01:00:51,067 --> 01:00:54,027
Speaker 2: you very much. Indeed, Andy any McDonald doing his uh

1146
01:00:54,227 --> 01:00:59,347
Speaker 2: his wonderful researching in the background. So yes, Damien McKenzie

1147
01:00:59,347 --> 01:01:01,347
Speaker 2: has played for the maldy All Blacks. It's it's we

1148
01:01:01,427 --> 01:01:04,267
Speaker 2: talked about this during the week when he signed his

1149
01:01:04,427 --> 01:01:07,867
Speaker 2: new deal. You know, it's that's such an interesting time

1150
01:01:08,027 --> 01:01:10,987
Speaker 2: around that first five position. Boden Barrett is back for

1151
01:01:11,027 --> 01:01:14,107
Speaker 2: the Blues tonight. Speaking of first fives, how will that go?

1152
01:01:14,187 --> 01:01:18,147
Speaker 2: Hopefully well for the Blues. They hope he as many

1153
01:01:18,147 --> 01:01:20,267
Speaker 2: games the mist he didn't play the Chiefs or the Crusaders.

1154
01:01:20,307 --> 01:01:21,747
Speaker 2: Did he bote in Barrett, But he is back in

1155
01:01:21,787 --> 01:01:25,147
Speaker 2: the starting side tonight. I was thinking about this yesterday

1156
01:01:25,147 --> 01:01:28,547
Speaker 2: from a Hurricanes' point of view, and of course, you

1157
01:01:28,587 --> 01:01:31,387
Speaker 2: know they will. They'll be looking to bounce back from

1158
01:01:31,427 --> 01:01:34,147
Speaker 2: a very ordinary start to the season for them, given

1159
01:01:34,227 --> 01:01:36,227
Speaker 2: the fact that they were, you know, across the round

1160
01:01:36,307 --> 01:01:38,787
Speaker 2: robin the best team last year, lost to the Crusaders,

1161
01:01:38,827 --> 01:01:41,547
Speaker 2: beat the Druer, then lost to the Blues, lost in

1162
01:01:41,627 --> 01:01:44,467
Speaker 2: more one in Pacifica, so down the barrel of one

1163
01:01:44,587 --> 01:01:47,107
Speaker 2: win from the first four games squeaked in against the

1164
01:01:47,187 --> 01:01:51,227
Speaker 2: Highlanders beat the Warritars comfortably a week ago. As a

1165
01:01:51,307 --> 01:01:53,867
Speaker 2: Hurricanes fan, I just worry a little bit about the

1166
01:01:53,867 --> 01:01:58,987
Speaker 2: Blues tonight and just the desperation inside that team because

1167
01:01:59,427 --> 01:02:01,587
Speaker 2: you know, they had that loss at Eden Park it

1168
01:02:01,627 --> 01:02:03,307
Speaker 2: was two weeks ago, wasn't it, Because they're coming off

1169
01:02:03,307 --> 01:02:06,827
Speaker 2: the buye and they were so poor that night. Blues

1170
01:02:07,587 --> 01:02:12,667
Speaker 2: so below where we expect them to be, or certainly

1171
01:02:12,747 --> 01:02:14,827
Speaker 2: below where they were last year. Last year they just

1172
01:02:15,227 --> 01:02:18,467
Speaker 2: they were like a juggernaut. Last year they just rolled

1173
01:02:18,467 --> 01:02:23,427
Speaker 2: on and on and on and swept all before them.

1174
01:02:24,747 --> 01:02:27,267
Speaker 2: But this season has been a very different story. It's

1175
01:02:27,307 --> 01:02:29,067
Speaker 2: it's very similar, isn't it to what happened with the

1176
01:02:29,067 --> 01:02:31,787
Speaker 2: Crusaders last year off the back of their success not

1177
01:02:31,867 --> 01:02:34,707
Speaker 2: just the year before that, but the years plural before that.

1178
01:02:34,747 --> 01:02:36,667
Speaker 2: But you look at the Blue side that is going

1179
01:02:36,707 --> 01:02:38,947
Speaker 2: to take the field tonight and it is quite different,

1180
01:02:40,227 --> 01:02:42,307
Speaker 2: quite different from the side that lost to the Crusaders.

1181
01:02:42,307 --> 01:02:44,307
Speaker 2: Even though you looked at that team that played the

1182
01:02:44,347 --> 01:02:46,027
Speaker 2: Crusader and say, well, there's a fair sprinkling of all

1183
01:02:46,067 --> 01:02:49,427
Speaker 2: blacks and there's still a fair amount of you know,

1184
01:02:49,507 --> 01:02:53,027
Speaker 2: particularly in the backs where you had Caleb Clarke on

1185
01:02:53,027 --> 01:02:55,987
Speaker 2: one wing, Mark Tlayer on the other and ricco Yowanni

1186
01:02:56,067 --> 01:02:58,907
Speaker 2: at center. You know, three first choice all blacks really

1187
01:02:59,467 --> 01:03:04,147
Speaker 2: in their positions. Stephen Petifetta was at first five that night,

1188
01:03:04,987 --> 01:03:07,507
Speaker 2: Harry Plummer came off the bench from memory and slaughtered

1189
01:03:07,507 --> 01:03:10,267
Speaker 2: in there quite early on in the piece. Finm like

1190
01:03:10,347 --> 01:03:12,347
Speaker 2: Christy came off the bench. But anyway, tonight's game, I

1191
01:03:12,427 --> 01:03:17,027
Speaker 2: just it feels like it's a more formidable Blues side.

1192
01:03:19,147 --> 01:03:22,187
Speaker 2: Boden Barrett for starters in at first five, Patrick Twey,

1193
01:03:22,267 --> 01:03:25,147
Speaker 2: Pilot Tou who missed the Crusaders game. He was in

1194
01:03:25,147 --> 01:03:27,307
Speaker 2: a moonboot, but clearly has recovered from that. He seems

1195
01:03:27,307 --> 01:03:30,987
Speaker 2: to have remarkable powers of recovery. Patrick Twey Plot two,

1196
01:03:30,987 --> 01:03:34,867
Speaker 2: he's back in there tonight. Anton Segner, who wasn't in

1197
01:03:34,987 --> 01:03:38,667
Speaker 2: the team against the Crusaders, having played in a variety

1198
01:03:38,667 --> 01:03:41,027
Speaker 2: of positions. Actually he's in the number six jersey tonight.

1199
01:03:41,187 --> 01:03:43,627
Speaker 2: That's he's played all the loose forward positions from the

1200
01:03:43,667 --> 01:03:47,467
Speaker 2: start now or will have no he was in the

1201
01:03:47,507 --> 01:03:51,067
Speaker 2: blind side position for the first game. So Anton Segna

1202
01:03:51,067 --> 01:03:55,627
Speaker 2: has become a pretty important part of this of this

1203
01:03:55,947 --> 01:04:00,427
Speaker 2: Blues side. And yeah, Patrick two Poloto as I mentioned,

1204
01:04:00,467 --> 01:04:03,107
Speaker 2: and Boden Barrett too, So yeah, it just feels like

1205
01:04:03,187 --> 01:04:06,627
Speaker 2: they're a better side. Stephen Petterfetta will come off the

1206
01:04:06,667 --> 01:04:12,627
Speaker 2: bench tonight, so that's a change for him. Nine nine

1207
01:04:12,707 --> 01:04:15,027
Speaker 2: two is our text line. Oh eight hundred and eighty

1208
01:04:15,147 --> 01:04:19,667
Speaker 2: ten eighty is our phone number. Thanks Dana Pinty. The

1209
01:04:19,667 --> 01:04:23,587
Speaker 2: Blues are like your phoenix getting smashed as common. That's

1210
01:04:23,667 --> 01:04:25,787
Speaker 2: a bit harsh on the Blues, I have to say,

1211
01:04:25,947 --> 01:04:28,347
Speaker 2: it's a bit harsh on the Blues. Speaking of football

1212
01:04:28,387 --> 01:04:30,147
Speaker 2: though there was a game this afternoon as well. I

1213
01:04:30,227 --> 01:04:31,947
Speaker 2: was bringing a piece on in the Herald this morning

1214
01:04:31,987 --> 01:04:36,467
Speaker 2: about how Auckland sports fans are just absolutely spoilt for

1215
01:04:36,627 --> 01:04:41,187
Speaker 2: choice this weekend. They've got so many things that they

1216
01:04:41,187 --> 01:04:44,667
Speaker 2: can get along to, either to get to or to

1217
01:04:44,867 --> 01:04:49,867
Speaker 2: take in Albany this afternoon on the North Shore, Mowana

1218
01:04:49,907 --> 01:04:54,267
Speaker 2: Pacifica up against the Warratars at five past two. Then

1219
01:04:54,307 --> 01:04:56,867
Speaker 2: you can get across if you've if you want to

1220
01:04:57,027 --> 01:05:01,467
Speaker 2: to go Media Stadium where Auckland FC up against Western

1221
01:05:01,507 --> 01:05:03,867
Speaker 2: Sydney Wanderers that's at five o'clock, or if you would

1222
01:05:04,027 --> 01:05:07,667
Speaker 2: rather get straight to Eden Park there is the Super

1223
01:05:07,747 --> 01:05:11,707
Speaker 2: Rugby opicky clash between the Blues women and the Hurricanes

1224
01:05:11,747 --> 01:05:14,147
Speaker 2: POI at around four thirty and then tonight of course

1225
01:05:14,147 --> 01:05:18,227
Speaker 2: of Eden Park Blues Hurricanes. So spoilt for choice if

1226
01:05:18,267 --> 01:05:23,707
Speaker 2: you're in the Auckland region, interested to know what's taking

1227
01:05:23,787 --> 01:05:27,227
Speaker 2: your what's catching your attention, what's taking your fancy this afternoon,

1228
01:05:27,427 --> 01:05:29,587
Speaker 2: Auckland sports fans, or are you just going to sort

1229
01:05:29,587 --> 01:05:32,467
Speaker 2: of watch and listen from a distance. New Zealand is

1230
01:05:32,547 --> 01:05:35,067
Speaker 2: sixty for one, sixty for one near the end of

1231
01:05:35,227 --> 01:05:38,827
Speaker 2: the tenth over, batting first against Pakistan at Mount Monganery

1232
01:05:38,867 --> 01:05:41,867
Speaker 2: Bayoval and Mount Monganery forty two overs aside. This game

1233
01:05:41,907 --> 01:05:45,427
Speaker 2: there was a delayed start because the rain had affected

1234
01:05:45,467 --> 01:05:47,307
Speaker 2: the pitch overnight, but they got it dried out. It's

1235
01:05:47,307 --> 01:05:49,587
Speaker 2: a nice day in the Mount, so forty two overs

1236
01:05:49,587 --> 01:05:51,507
Speaker 2: a side and New Zealand at the end of the

1237
01:05:51,547 --> 01:05:54,067
Speaker 2: tenth over our sixty one for one race Muddy, who

1238
01:05:54,187 --> 01:05:57,027
Speaker 2: is making a pretty good fist of playing for New Zealand.

1239
01:05:57,067 --> 01:05:59,467
Speaker 2: This guy that I've been talking about for a long

1240
01:05:59,547 --> 01:06:01,867
Speaker 2: time down in Canterbury. He's thirty four not out off

1241
01:06:01,907 --> 01:06:04,427
Speaker 2: that many balls, a couple of sixers and four fourths.

1242
01:06:04,427 --> 01:06:07,107
Speaker 2: Henry Nichols also garnered to run a ball now eighteen

1243
01:06:07,587 --> 01:06:10,907
Speaker 2: unbeaten off eighteen deliveries. New zually on sixty one for

1244
01:06:11,027 --> 01:06:13,067
Speaker 2: one in the tenth over. The man out as Nick Kelly,

1245
01:06:13,587 --> 01:06:17,307
Speaker 2: who was dismissed for three when the score was thirteen.

1246
01:06:17,587 --> 01:06:20,187
Speaker 2: So these two are building nicely. A second BIK of partnership.

1247
01:06:20,227 --> 01:06:22,227
Speaker 2: Tim Seifert is back into the side today as well.

1248
01:06:22,227 --> 01:06:23,627
Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to keep wicket. I think

1249
01:06:23,707 --> 01:06:26,107
Speaker 2: Mitch Hay will keep the gloves. But Tim Seifert's come

1250
01:06:26,107 --> 01:06:29,107
Speaker 2: into the squad to stiffen up the batting. With Nathan

1251
01:06:29,267 --> 01:06:31,987
Speaker 2: Smith dropping out, I guess that means they have to

1252
01:06:32,067 --> 01:06:34,347
Speaker 2: find those ten overs elsewhere all of my b ten

1253
01:06:34,347 --> 01:06:36,067
Speaker 2: overs will it only be eight overs with a forty

1254
01:06:36,107 --> 01:06:40,467
Speaker 2: two over a side situation. But they can get those

1255
01:06:40,547 --> 01:06:43,667
Speaker 2: overs out of the likes of Braceweiller, Bass, Duffy, Seers,

1256
01:06:43,707 --> 01:06:48,067
Speaker 2: O'Rourke Daryl Mitchell could bowl a couple if need be,

1257
01:06:48,147 --> 01:06:49,667
Speaker 2: so I'm pretty sure they'll be able to get the

1258
01:06:49,707 --> 01:06:51,987
Speaker 2: forty two overs out no problem at all. Twenty five

1259
01:06:52,027 --> 01:06:53,307
Speaker 2: to two. Let's take a break. When we come back

1260
01:06:53,307 --> 01:06:56,507
Speaker 2: across the Tasman, we go Adam Peacock, our regular Australian correspondent,

1261
01:06:56,587 --> 01:06:59,987
Speaker 2: talking about Super rugby and how these four Australian sides

1262
01:07:00,027 --> 01:07:03,427
Speaker 2: have all ended up inside the top six. Were across

1263
01:07:03,507 --> 01:07:05,867
Speaker 2: the Tasman in a moment. Text line remains open on

1264
01:07:06,107 --> 01:07:10,427
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty nine, two ninety two on text. Just

1265
01:07:10,467 --> 01:07:12,307
Speaker 2: a text before we go. I know there's a lot

1266
01:07:12,307 --> 01:07:14,187
Speaker 2: of sport on in New Zealand, but please don't forget

1267
01:07:14,267 --> 01:07:16,627
Speaker 2: practice three and qualifying for Formula one today and this

1268
01:07:16,787 --> 01:07:22,267
Speaker 2: evening lean Lean. Absolutely we will not forget that, as

1269
01:07:22,307 --> 01:07:25,147
Speaker 2: we understand that the next or the third practice session

1270
01:07:25,267 --> 01:07:28,107
Speaker 2: just after three o'clock and then qualifying a couple of

1271
01:07:28,187 --> 01:07:30,107
Speaker 2: hours after that sort of five six o'clock tonight, and

1272
01:07:30,147 --> 01:07:33,347
Speaker 2: then the race tomorrow at five. We're absolutely not forgetting that.

1273
01:07:33,427 --> 01:07:35,307
Speaker 2: I get the feeling our sports news will be led

1274
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Speaker 2: by that a little bit later on. And then I

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01:07:38,707 --> 01:07:41,547
Speaker 2: mentioned last hour, but it bears repeating. David Coulthard is

1276
01:07:41,747 --> 01:07:44,587
Speaker 2: our guest on the show tomorrow after midday, by which

1277
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Speaker 2: stage will know the starting positions on the grid, how

1278
01:07:47,467 --> 01:07:50,467
Speaker 2: Lawson's looking, how Sonoda's looking for Stappan as well, and

1279
01:07:50,587 --> 01:07:54,467
Speaker 2: all of the others. David Coulthard's a Red Bull ambassador

1280
01:07:54,667 --> 01:07:57,507
Speaker 2: as well. I mean, I'm not exactly sure what that means,

1281
01:07:57,947 --> 01:08:00,907
Speaker 2: but he will have no doubt some insight if he's

1282
01:08:00,907 --> 01:08:02,947
Speaker 2: able to give it to us of what happened with

1283
01:08:03,067 --> 01:08:06,147
Speaker 2: the Laws and Sonoda switch. You know we've gone over

1284
01:08:06,187 --> 01:08:08,187
Speaker 2: there quite a bit in the last week. I don't

1285
01:08:08,227 --> 01:08:11,067
Speaker 2: want to religate old old stuff, but yeah, have a

1286
01:08:11,107 --> 01:08:13,347
Speaker 2: chat to David about that. But don't worry, Leanne. We

1287
01:08:13,467 --> 01:08:17,707
Speaker 2: have not forgotten Formula one. Absolutely not the case at all.

1288
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Speaker 2: Back in a sec note Across the Tasman with Adam Peacock.

1289
01:08:21,907 --> 01:08:24,787
Speaker 1: You be the TMO have your say on eight hundred

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01:08:24,787 --> 01:08:29,627
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty Weekend Sport with Jason Vain and GJ. Gunnerholmes,

1291
01:08:29,827 --> 01:08:32,667
Speaker 1: New Zealand's most trusted home builder news Dogs, they'd.

1292
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Speaker 2: Be coming up twenty to two. Across the Tasman and

1293
01:08:35,147 --> 01:08:37,987
Speaker 2: sec from Paul. He sent in his predictions for Super Rugby.

1294
01:08:38,027 --> 01:08:41,347
Speaker 2: In normal circumstances, says Paul, the Drewer might win, but

1295
01:08:42,107 --> 01:08:45,347
Speaker 2: the Crusaders have a do or die game they must

1296
01:08:45,387 --> 01:08:48,787
Speaker 2: win to even be considered a good team anymore. Well,

1297
01:08:49,587 --> 01:08:52,867
Speaker 2: I honestly think that the Drawer are probably favorite. But no, sorry, Paul,

1298
01:08:52,867 --> 01:08:55,467
Speaker 2: I shouldn't digress from your your thoughts. But okay, so

1299
01:08:55,467 --> 01:08:58,387
Speaker 2: I've got the Crusaders up there, the Blues over the

1300
01:08:58,467 --> 01:09:02,227
Speaker 2: Hurricanes for me, says Paul. Well, they will lose the

1301
01:09:02,307 --> 01:09:05,827
Speaker 2: following week Highlands forced fifty to fifty. It really is.

1302
01:09:07,187 --> 01:09:09,507
Speaker 2: I checked the odds before that. The Force are a

1303
01:09:09,587 --> 01:09:13,547
Speaker 2: dollar sixty favorites for that game over the Highlanders. I

1304
01:09:13,667 --> 01:09:16,987
Speaker 2: think it's way more fifty to fifty than that. Yes,

1305
01:09:17,027 --> 01:09:18,547
Speaker 2: the Force are in the top six, and yes the

1306
01:09:18,827 --> 01:09:21,547
Speaker 2: Highlanders have been a bit underwhelming in the last month

1307
01:09:21,707 --> 01:09:25,147
Speaker 2: or so, but I still I don't know. Again, it's

1308
01:09:25,427 --> 01:09:28,987
Speaker 2: perhaps a situation where they are desperate to find you

1309
01:09:29,267 --> 01:09:31,307
Speaker 2: a sceric of form and getting themselves back into the

1310
01:09:31,667 --> 01:09:34,707
Speaker 2: top six race. Lost to the Brumbies over in Canberra

1311
01:09:34,907 --> 01:09:36,707
Speaker 2: last weekend, but there's no disgrace in that. I guess

1312
01:09:36,707 --> 01:09:38,147
Speaker 2: you got to get all the way to Perth. They

1313
01:09:38,187 --> 01:09:39,867
Speaker 2: would have stayed there, they wouldn't they the Highlanders. They

1314
01:09:39,867 --> 01:09:42,547
Speaker 2: would have stayed over there and sort of just jumped

1315
01:09:42,547 --> 01:09:45,707
Speaker 2: on a plane across the Perth. Last time the Highlanders

1316
01:09:45,747 --> 01:09:47,427
Speaker 2: won a game was that more one of PACIFICA match

1317
01:09:47,467 --> 01:09:50,787
Speaker 2: on the twenty eighth of February. It's the fifth of April. Now,

1318
01:09:51,067 --> 01:09:52,667
Speaker 2: as I said, they beat the Blues, they beat more

1319
01:09:52,707 --> 01:09:54,587
Speaker 2: on a PACIFICA two wins from their first three and

1320
01:09:54,627 --> 01:09:57,667
Speaker 2: that narrow loss first up against the Waratars over there,

1321
01:09:58,067 --> 01:10:00,267
Speaker 2: so only a try from memory right at the end

1322
01:10:00,267 --> 01:10:03,227
Speaker 2: of that game that gave the war Retars to win.

1323
01:10:03,267 --> 01:10:05,107
Speaker 2: The Highlanders were ahead at the eighty minute mark and

1324
01:10:05,107 --> 01:10:08,107
Speaker 2: lost at thirty seven thirty six anyway, So Highlanders and

1325
01:10:08,267 --> 01:10:11,067
Speaker 2: Warrators over more one for me, says Paul. Thanks Paul,

1326
01:10:11,187 --> 01:10:13,347
Speaker 2: appreciate you taking the time to send us your thoughts.

1327
01:10:13,387 --> 01:10:15,267
Speaker 2: Yours are welcome as well. Are eight hundred and eighty

1328
01:10:15,387 --> 01:10:18,347
Speaker 2: ten eighty or nine two ninety two on the text machine.

1329
01:10:18,467 --> 01:10:21,587
Speaker 2: Just tell us yeah, as Paul has who you got

1330
01:10:21,747 --> 01:10:23,907
Speaker 2: in these four games, the first of which is only

1331
01:10:23,947 --> 01:10:27,107
Speaker 2: about twenty five minutes away. Nathan Limb has the call

1332
01:10:27,187 --> 01:10:31,307
Speaker 2: for you on gold Sport and iHeartRadio. Andy Duff executive

1333
01:10:31,387 --> 01:10:34,827
Speaker 2: producer of our rugby coverage this afternoon. So nothing will

1334
01:10:34,907 --> 01:10:38,387
Speaker 2: go wrong. I can tell you that Australian correspondent Adam

1335
01:10:38,387 --> 01:10:39,227
Speaker 2: Peacock is with us.

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Speaker 14: Has your week been made a bit of a quiet

1337
01:10:42,947 --> 01:10:46,707
Speaker 14: one ahead of Champions League returning next week when as

1338
01:10:46,707 --> 01:10:49,587
Speaker 14: the Quacks go back over here this weekend? So yes,

1339
01:10:50,107 --> 01:10:51,947
Speaker 14: that can be a pretty alarm clock. So I need

1340
01:10:51,987 --> 01:10:55,147
Speaker 14: all the busy stiff I can get before the big

1341
01:10:55,227 --> 01:10:57,667
Speaker 14: stuff quarterfinals over there kick off.

1342
01:10:57,667 --> 01:10:59,107
Speaker 11: So it should be great looking forward to that.

1343
01:10:59,187 --> 01:11:02,267
Speaker 2: All right, some Australian sporting matters to discuss today. Let's

1344
01:11:02,347 --> 01:11:05,627
Speaker 2: up with a super rugby table. All four Australian teams

1345
01:11:05,747 --> 01:11:07,587
Speaker 2: in the top six right now. The Read's golf beaton

1346
01:11:07,627 --> 01:11:09,187
Speaker 2: and the rain last night by the Chicks, but they're

1347
01:11:09,187 --> 01:11:11,587
Speaker 2: still on the top six. Do you think the removal

1348
01:11:11,627 --> 01:11:14,747
Speaker 2: of the rebels, the distribution of talent across four teams

1349
01:11:14,787 --> 01:11:16,667
Speaker 2: and not five, has been a big part of this.

1350
01:11:17,547 --> 01:11:21,427
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, it's been affect I think a couple of

1351
01:11:21,507 --> 01:11:25,507
Speaker 14: maybe also players not going given what's on here in

1352
01:11:25,547 --> 01:11:27,747
Speaker 14: the next couple of years, namely with the Lions two

1353
01:11:27,907 --> 01:11:29,987
Speaker 14: here and then maybe the World Cup might be a

1354
01:11:30,027 --> 01:11:32,707
Speaker 14: bit out of stretch for twenty twenty seven. But it's

1355
01:11:33,027 --> 01:11:35,707
Speaker 14: maybe in a back of some players' minds that ordinarily

1356
01:11:35,827 --> 01:11:39,027
Speaker 14: those players might have gone and taken overseas opportunities, but

1357
01:11:39,427 --> 01:11:41,667
Speaker 14: maybe hung around just to stay in front of like

1358
01:11:42,867 --> 01:11:45,667
Speaker 14: front of mine for selectors and things. So yeah, a

1359
01:11:45,747 --> 01:11:49,067
Speaker 14: few factors, and the fact I think where they're at

1360
01:11:49,187 --> 01:11:52,107
Speaker 14: at the moment, the drawers have gone to a couple

1361
01:11:52,147 --> 01:11:54,667
Speaker 14: of our teams. Samely the warts have. You didn't even

1362
01:11:54,707 --> 01:11:57,347
Speaker 14: have to go there or it felt like for the

1363
01:11:57,427 --> 01:12:01,307
Speaker 14: first month of the season that they got my owner

1364
01:12:01,307 --> 01:12:03,907
Speaker 14: pacificate today obviously, but yeah, as soon as you sent

1365
01:12:03,947 --> 01:12:06,507
Speaker 14: me that message, mate, oh let's talk about the your

1366
01:12:06,547 --> 01:12:09,107
Speaker 14: fixt sense do really well you're going to have last night,

1367
01:12:09,627 --> 01:12:10,787
Speaker 14: So yeah, thanks for that.

1368
01:12:12,187 --> 01:12:14,427
Speaker 2: Look, I didn't mean to jinx anything. And to be fair,

1369
01:12:14,867 --> 01:12:17,067
Speaker 2: what's that game and the Reds weren't so till quite

1370
01:12:17,107 --> 01:12:19,347
Speaker 2: near the end. So look, it's I think from our

1371
01:12:19,387 --> 01:12:21,267
Speaker 2: point of view over here, we've always wanted a competition

1372
01:12:21,387 --> 01:12:23,267
Speaker 2: that's some that's you know, got Jeopardy week to week,

1373
01:12:23,307 --> 01:12:24,467
Speaker 2: game to game, and that's what we're getting.

1374
01:12:25,347 --> 01:12:27,667
Speaker 14: Yeah, and I mean how long did it go piney

1375
01:12:27,747 --> 01:12:30,787
Speaker 14: when I think there's this ridiculous streak where not one

1376
01:12:30,867 --> 01:12:33,387
Speaker 14: super rugby side from over here beat one super rugby

1377
01:12:33,467 --> 01:12:36,587
Speaker 14: side from over there. Yeah, it was insane. I think

1378
01:12:36,627 --> 01:12:39,947
Speaker 14: with the Yeah, the distribution of talent not as stretched

1379
01:12:39,947 --> 01:12:42,227
Speaker 14: because let's face it, we don't have bottomless pit over here.

1380
01:12:42,267 --> 01:12:44,427
Speaker 14: That that's probably the overriding factor.

1381
01:12:44,587 --> 01:12:47,467
Speaker 2: Just all right, long mate, continual, Let's go to rugby league,

1382
01:12:47,947 --> 01:12:51,227
Speaker 2: where the state of origin eligibility rules have been in

1383
01:12:51,307 --> 01:12:51,947
Speaker 2: the news this week.

1384
01:12:51,987 --> 01:12:54,667
Speaker 14: Tell us more about this, Yeah, this is a really

1385
01:12:55,507 --> 01:12:58,547
Speaker 14: odd story that not an odd story, but something that

1386
01:12:58,907 --> 01:13:01,867
Speaker 14: looks like common sense has just changed. But there seems

1387
01:13:01,867 --> 01:13:04,107
Speaker 14: a bit of pushback over here that. Okay, a key

1388
01:13:04,307 --> 01:13:07,587
Speaker 14: one nation in rugby league is Australia, England and New Zealand.

1389
01:13:08,067 --> 01:13:11,267
Speaker 14: So basically they say, if you declare your allegiance to

1390
01:13:11,547 --> 01:13:15,587
Speaker 14: England like Victor Radley has done, or New Zealand internationally,

1391
01:13:15,667 --> 01:13:17,267
Speaker 14: you can't play state of origin no matter where you

1392
01:13:17,347 --> 01:13:19,827
Speaker 14: were born. Now may if you're eligible to play state

1393
01:13:19,867 --> 01:13:22,867
Speaker 14: of origins in New South Wales or Queensland, playing your

1394
01:13:22,907 --> 01:13:26,347
Speaker 14: first and your footy, I think as a teenager in

1395
01:13:26,427 --> 01:13:29,787
Speaker 14: those states you can't play. But it's seems a bit

1396
01:13:29,787 --> 01:13:31,827
Speaker 14: odd because you can do it if you're from Tomra

1397
01:13:31,947 --> 01:13:35,467
Speaker 14: or Sama. Now, last time I checked, those two sides

1398
01:13:35,467 --> 01:13:37,787
Speaker 14: are rapidly closing the gap between New Zealand, England and

1399
01:13:37,827 --> 01:13:42,547
Speaker 14: Australia in l footage. So what about we kind of

1400
01:13:42,627 --> 01:13:45,467
Speaker 14: repurpose these rules and not say open flather. If you

1401
01:13:45,507 --> 01:13:47,707
Speaker 14: were born in New Zealand, then you come across here

1402
01:13:47,747 --> 01:13:50,187
Speaker 14: and play nurl, you're all of a sudden eligible to play.

1403
01:13:50,227 --> 01:13:53,147
Speaker 14: And you said, well no, it's those players who perhaps

1404
01:13:53,187 --> 01:13:56,307
Speaker 14: were born over here, but elect to represent New Zealand.

1405
01:13:56,867 --> 01:14:00,347
Speaker 14: Open it up, there's no harm. So yeah, I think

1406
01:14:00,427 --> 01:14:02,707
Speaker 14: they need a tweet because Michael challis my colleague. On

1407
01:14:02,747 --> 01:14:05,547
Speaker 14: the podcast over here the Triple Lamb made the point

1408
01:14:05,587 --> 01:14:09,027
Speaker 14: that twenty years ago, not one or not one New

1409
01:14:09,067 --> 01:14:12,867
Speaker 14: South player was eligible for another nation. Now seven are,

1410
01:14:13,427 --> 01:14:15,947
Speaker 14: so yeah, don'thing that's to change. I think they've got

1411
01:14:16,027 --> 01:14:18,467
Speaker 14: to rethink it because the demographic of player and where

1412
01:14:18,467 --> 01:14:22,467
Speaker 14: they're coming from has has definitely changed with the rise

1413
01:14:22,587 --> 01:14:27,747
Speaker 14: of the where these plays like the Polynesian Malanesian population,

1414
01:14:27,827 --> 01:14:31,427
Speaker 14: it's Sydney massive and yeah, they've been born and bred

1415
01:14:31,427 --> 01:14:33,427
Speaker 14: to you. But then I elect to play for Sama

1416
01:14:33,547 --> 01:14:36,787
Speaker 14: Tima to make their family proud, which is unreal. And

1417
01:14:36,947 --> 01:14:39,627
Speaker 14: you want to strengthen that international game. But don't dilute

1418
01:14:39,667 --> 01:14:41,667
Speaker 14: state of Rhods and just because you've got an archaic rule.

1419
01:14:41,867 --> 01:14:44,387
Speaker 2: Yeah no, very well said, very well said. Let's go

1420
01:14:44,467 --> 01:14:47,387
Speaker 2: to football. Sam Kirk back with the Matilda. She's been

1421
01:14:47,467 --> 01:14:50,427
Speaker 2: out with her acl injury for quite some time and

1422
01:14:50,467 --> 01:14:53,067
Speaker 2: of course her court case has gone on during that period.

1423
01:14:53,387 --> 01:14:56,507
Speaker 2: How has her reintegration into the Matilda's been received.

1424
01:14:57,307 --> 01:15:00,267
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, great by all accounts. That the players of

1425
01:15:00,347 --> 01:15:02,827
Speaker 14: loves having her back. The public as well. She was

1426
01:15:02,907 --> 01:15:04,227
Speaker 14: up on the big screen a couple of times early

1427
01:15:04,307 --> 01:15:07,187
Speaker 14: in this game against Korea last night. Crowd went nuts.

1428
01:15:07,227 --> 01:15:10,347
Speaker 14: So yeah, any any confirmation about the fact that what

1429
01:15:10,507 --> 01:15:13,707
Speaker 14: she's been through and obviously they hashett quickly she was.

1430
01:15:14,027 --> 01:15:18,507
Speaker 14: She was in court for allegedly abusing a police officer

1431
01:15:18,587 --> 01:15:21,787
Speaker 14: in London what two years ago now, but she was

1432
01:15:21,787 --> 01:15:25,027
Speaker 14: acquitted of those charges. She made her piece with Football

1433
01:15:25,027 --> 01:15:26,827
Speaker 14: Australia and they all got on the same page and

1434
01:15:27,027 --> 01:15:29,187
Speaker 14: welcome her back into camp. She's not ready yet, she's

1435
01:15:29,587 --> 01:15:33,747
Speaker 14: just rehabbing and continuing her rehabilitation. From an atl inside

1436
01:15:33,787 --> 01:15:36,747
Speaker 14: the camp, she's nearly ready, but no. By all accounts,

1437
01:15:36,787 --> 01:15:39,827
Speaker 14: the buzz around the camp was higher with having Sam

1438
01:15:39,947 --> 01:15:42,587
Speaker 14: there as it would be because she's she's a positive

1439
01:15:42,867 --> 01:15:45,587
Speaker 14: person with her teammates and yeah, they're like having her back.

1440
01:15:45,507 --> 01:15:48,147
Speaker 2: Apparently absolute superstar. I bet I bet they are. And

1441
01:15:48,267 --> 01:15:51,467
Speaker 2: just to finish, a couple of AFL fans brought their

1442
01:15:51,627 --> 01:15:54,907
Speaker 2: guns to a game between Carlton and Colling. What I

1443
01:15:54,907 --> 01:15:58,587
Speaker 2: shouldn't laugh? They how how did they even get the money?

1444
01:15:59,587 --> 01:16:01,587
Speaker 14: I had chuckled at some of the headlines in Melbourne,

1445
01:16:01,667 --> 01:16:04,507
Speaker 14: which is basically something happens in AFL like that, and

1446
01:16:04,547 --> 01:16:07,347
Speaker 14: it's a societal problem. Something happened like that in a

1447
01:16:07,507 --> 01:16:10,587
Speaker 14: league you and I know, finding that the canceled sport.

1448
01:16:11,187 --> 01:16:15,067
Speaker 14: So yeah, it's a little two faced how it's come across,

1449
01:16:15,107 --> 01:16:16,667
Speaker 14: but it's a se if this matter. Obviously, we're not

1450
01:16:17,627 --> 01:16:19,267
Speaker 14: not having to go at the fact that it is

1451
01:16:19,307 --> 01:16:21,307
Speaker 14: an absolute serious now that these two guys are apparently

1452
01:16:21,387 --> 01:16:24,907
Speaker 14: out in bail there there run. Yeah, they haven't been

1453
01:16:24,947 --> 01:16:26,347
Speaker 14: on the right side of the law all their life,

1454
01:16:26,387 --> 01:16:29,587
Speaker 14: put it that way. And they got in apparently they've

1455
01:16:29,587 --> 01:16:32,627
Speaker 14: got these screeners that that AI based or something, and

1456
01:16:33,067 --> 01:16:36,267
Speaker 14: they got in. They didn't know they're carrying on like

1457
01:16:36,347 --> 01:16:38,827
Speaker 14: idiots in the ground, so they ended up getting chucked

1458
01:16:38,827 --> 01:16:40,307
Speaker 14: out and when they got chucked out, they kind of

1459
01:16:40,347 --> 01:16:44,787
Speaker 14: got searched. So two loaded guns, so pretty insane that

1460
01:16:45,347 --> 01:16:47,787
Speaker 14: by all accounts, they weren't going to do anything. They

1461
01:16:47,947 --> 01:16:50,827
Speaker 14: just you know, they're tough guys. They thought they'd walk

1462
01:16:50,867 --> 01:16:52,987
Speaker 14: them through to the loaded gun, which I don't know

1463
01:16:53,067 --> 01:16:54,747
Speaker 14: how you get to that stage in life, but anyway,

1464
01:16:55,347 --> 01:16:59,027
Speaker 14: so do it. But yeah, pretty serious. All the security

1465
01:16:59,067 --> 01:17:01,347
Speaker 14: protocols have been looked at the mcg all.

1466
01:17:01,267 --> 01:17:03,627
Speaker 2: Right, well, thankfully nobody was hurt in the whole thing.

1467
01:17:03,707 --> 01:17:07,307
Speaker 2: Yeah maybe a yeah, maybe just a tale of increased security.

1468
01:17:07,387 --> 01:17:09,707
Speaker 2: And I don't know, maybe humanized are better than AI

1469
01:17:10,027 --> 01:17:13,267
Speaker 2: eyes after all, I don't know. We will leave that

1470
01:17:13,347 --> 01:17:15,667
Speaker 2: for we'll leave that. Who would have thought we'll leave

1471
01:17:15,707 --> 01:17:17,547
Speaker 2: that for another day? Great, Deten has always mate, enjoy

1472
01:17:17,547 --> 01:17:19,507
Speaker 2: your weekend and we'll catch up next ourday.

1473
01:17:20,147 --> 01:17:21,907
Speaker 14: Thanks everyone, You have a go one to mate.

1474
01:17:21,907 --> 01:17:25,867
Speaker 2: Allen Peacock, our regular Australian correspondent. Around this time every

1475
01:17:26,067 --> 01:17:29,587
Speaker 2: Saturday afternoon, eleven to two, Nicholas has sent in his

1476
01:17:30,267 --> 01:17:32,827
Speaker 2: picks for Super Rugby. First up, though, Nicholas says, matchup

1477
01:17:32,867 --> 01:17:37,147
Speaker 2: of the day Zarn Sullivan against Rico Yoanni in the centers.

1478
01:17:37,547 --> 01:17:40,067
Speaker 2: That will be a battle. You're so right, Bailan Sullivan

1479
01:17:40,107 --> 01:17:42,907
Speaker 2: has been sorry, Bailan Sullivan, not Zaran Sullivan, bayl and

1480
01:17:42,947 --> 01:17:47,547
Speaker 2: Sullivan has been playing so well, so well. He started

1481
01:17:47,587 --> 01:17:49,907
Speaker 2: off at center, but he's moved into second five. It's

1482
01:17:49,947 --> 01:17:52,027
Speaker 2: an odd one, they often say. You know, center and

1483
01:17:52,587 --> 01:17:55,427
Speaker 2: second five are interchangeable, but in many ways, you know,

1484
01:17:56,187 --> 01:17:58,267
Speaker 2: guys sort of tend to settle on one or the other.

1485
01:17:58,307 --> 01:18:00,827
Speaker 2: I mean Riccae Yuanni doesn't play second five very often.

1486
01:18:01,107 --> 01:18:04,307
Speaker 2: For example, but the Hurricanes had had bail And Sullivan

1487
01:18:04,347 --> 01:18:07,027
Speaker 2: at center for the first five games and Peter Umuger

1488
01:18:07,067 --> 01:18:09,947
Speaker 2: Jensen at second five. Last week they flipped them for

1489
01:18:09,987 --> 01:18:12,547
Speaker 2: the one over the Warratas and they've kept that same combo.

1490
01:18:12,667 --> 01:18:15,627
Speaker 2: So Sullivan's gone into second five and Umunger Jensen des center.

1491
01:18:15,667 --> 01:18:17,507
Speaker 2: Look when they line up in a back line, either

1492
01:18:17,787 --> 01:18:21,267
Speaker 2: defensively or on attack, sometimes they interchange. But in terms

1493
01:18:21,307 --> 01:18:24,947
Speaker 2: of jersey number, that's interesting. Rico Yuwanni, Yes, you know,

1494
01:18:25,147 --> 01:18:27,787
Speaker 2: I don't think he's had the most convincing season for

1495
01:18:28,907 --> 01:18:32,187
Speaker 2: the Blues. He's started every game. He's I think one

1496
01:18:32,227 --> 01:18:34,147
Speaker 2: of only two players. He and Mark Talaya are the

1497
01:18:34,227 --> 01:18:41,507
Speaker 2: only two players to have started every game. And as

1498
01:18:41,547 --> 01:18:44,267
Speaker 2: far as the rest of the selections, before we move

1499
01:18:44,307 --> 01:18:47,067
Speaker 2: on to Nicholas the selections, he says, bizarre selection of

1500
01:18:47,107 --> 01:18:49,867
Speaker 2: the day, pinety sever Reese at thirteen. What's that about?

1501
01:18:50,067 --> 01:18:52,827
Speaker 2: What is that about? Down in Crusaders Country. I didn't

1502
01:18:52,827 --> 01:18:55,507
Speaker 2: even know sever Reese could play at center. Ampat him

1503
01:18:55,547 --> 01:18:58,107
Speaker 2: during the week, say that he might. You know that

1504
01:18:58,907 --> 01:19:02,067
Speaker 2: he's played there he was growing up, But I mean

1505
01:19:02,147 --> 01:19:05,107
Speaker 2: I know David Harvili is not there, so that's compelled

1506
01:19:06,467 --> 01:19:09,107
Speaker 2: Dallas McLeod to go in one to second five. But

1507
01:19:09,347 --> 01:19:13,547
Speaker 2: they've got Levir Moore and he played center last week.

1508
01:19:14,387 --> 01:19:16,307
Speaker 2: Yes it was in a loss, so maybe he just

1509
01:19:16,347 --> 01:19:19,507
Speaker 2: didn't They just don't trust Leevir Moore in the centers anymore,

1510
01:19:19,667 --> 01:19:22,227
Speaker 2: or just want to try something different with sever Reese.

1511
01:19:22,467 --> 01:19:24,507
Speaker 2: He's from Fiji, isn't he, So maybe he turns up

1512
01:19:24,547 --> 01:19:27,467
Speaker 2: there and just has an absolute blinder in thirteen and

1513
01:19:27,547 --> 01:19:28,867
Speaker 2: all of a sudden he's an option there for the

1514
01:19:28,907 --> 01:19:31,627
Speaker 2: All Blacks as well. Anyway, sever Rees and the thirteen jumper.

1515
01:19:31,667 --> 01:19:37,347
Speaker 2: So Nicholas's production predictions Crusaders by four, Hurricanes by eight,

1516
01:19:38,347 --> 01:19:45,067
Speaker 2: Highlanders by one, Mowana Pacifica by thirteen. All right, yeah,

1517
01:19:45,067 --> 01:19:49,907
Speaker 2: well yeah it could easily be the other way around,

1518
01:19:49,987 --> 01:19:54,507
Speaker 2: but thanks Nicholas for sending your your predictions through quick Check.

1519
01:19:54,547 --> 01:19:56,027
Speaker 2: On the black Caps before we go to the break,

1520
01:19:56,027 --> 01:19:59,347
Speaker 2: they're batting first against Pakistan in a forty two over

1521
01:19:59,427 --> 01:20:01,907
Speaker 2: a side match now at Bay Oval and Mount Moganui.

1522
01:20:01,947 --> 01:20:05,387
Speaker 2: This is the final match of the men's international home summer,

1523
01:20:06,347 --> 01:20:08,747
Speaker 2: and having been sent into bat they've reached drinks after

1524
01:20:08,827 --> 01:20:11,987
Speaker 2: fourteen overs seventy five for one, seventy five for one

1525
01:20:12,067 --> 01:20:14,707
Speaker 2: recemat are you thirty nine not out or forty five balls?

1526
01:20:14,787 --> 01:20:17,747
Speaker 2: So going along nicely as he looks to notch up

1527
01:20:17,827 --> 01:20:22,107
Speaker 2: a maiden international half century. Henry Nichols, who's been around

1528
01:20:22,147 --> 01:20:24,267
Speaker 2: for a long long time. There's plenty of those twenty

1529
01:20:24,307 --> 01:20:27,427
Speaker 2: seven unbeaten off thirty one balls. These two came together

1530
01:20:28,067 --> 01:20:30,387
Speaker 2: when the first wik at fell out of Nick Kelly

1531
01:20:30,987 --> 01:20:33,547
Speaker 2: thirteen for one, So they've had what sixty two runs

1532
01:20:33,587 --> 01:20:36,347
Speaker 2: so far? Looking good. The spinners are on at Mount

1533
01:20:36,387 --> 01:20:40,827
Speaker 2: Montanui four Pakistan New Zealand's seventy five for one, batting

1534
01:20:40,867 --> 01:20:44,947
Speaker 2: first in this forty two over a side game. A

1535
01:20:45,027 --> 01:20:47,187
Speaker 2: Pintey apparently said, who played all his rugby at center

1536
01:20:47,667 --> 01:20:49,827
Speaker 2: until he went to the Crusaders and got put on

1537
01:20:49,907 --> 01:20:50,147
Speaker 2: the wing?

1538
01:20:50,267 --> 01:20:50,707
Speaker 13: Is that right?

1539
01:20:51,387 --> 01:20:51,587
Speaker 6: Andy?

1540
01:20:51,667 --> 01:20:56,507
Speaker 2: You probably know you're a Crusaders fan? Sever rees? Did

1541
01:20:56,587 --> 01:20:58,667
Speaker 2: he play at center before he got to the while

1542
01:20:58,747 --> 01:20:59,707
Speaker 2: he was at the Chiefs before?

1543
01:20:59,827 --> 01:21:00,107
Speaker 10: Wasn't he?

1544
01:21:00,667 --> 01:21:00,827
Speaker 12: Was he?

1545
01:21:01,067 --> 01:21:03,587
Speaker 2: I can't ever remember him playing center. I don't recall

1546
01:21:03,707 --> 01:21:07,307
Speaker 2: him playing center for US at least, So he might be.

1547
01:21:07,507 --> 01:21:09,467
Speaker 2: He might be amazing. He could be He might have

1548
01:21:09,547 --> 01:21:12,067
Speaker 2: forgotten though as well. The other thing is also it's like,

1549
01:21:12,107 --> 01:21:14,147
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever seen Severa Reese pass the ball,

1550
01:21:14,347 --> 01:21:14,587
Speaker 2: have you?

1551
01:21:15,067 --> 01:21:17,747
Speaker 9: He doesn't have to when he's on the wells faster

1552
01:21:17,827 --> 01:21:20,067
Speaker 9: than everyone else on the field and runs and runs

1553
01:21:20,107 --> 01:21:22,547
Speaker 9: in and the only passing he ever does is from

1554
01:21:22,707 --> 01:21:24,947
Speaker 9: his hand down to the try lines.

1555
01:21:24,827 --> 01:21:28,147
Speaker 2: Try line. He forces it and says, right, that's a try.

1556
01:21:28,227 --> 01:21:31,987
Speaker 9: That's that's that's me passing five points from from the

1557
01:21:32,187 --> 01:21:33,867
Speaker 9: from my team to the scoreboard.

1558
01:21:34,867 --> 01:21:35,347
Speaker 5: That's good.

1559
01:21:35,467 --> 01:21:37,347
Speaker 2: I don't mind it. Yes, So, I mean we always

1560
01:21:37,347 --> 01:21:40,187
Speaker 2: talk about sentence having to sit up there outsides. I

1561
01:21:40,307 --> 01:21:43,307
Speaker 2: hope he has a blinder. I hope Severa Reese's man

1562
01:21:43,387 --> 01:21:46,427
Speaker 2: of the match at center. Let's see seven to two

1563
01:21:46,467 --> 01:21:46,907
Speaker 2: news Talks.

1564
01:21:46,907 --> 01:21:50,587
Speaker 1: He be analyzing every view from every angle in the

1565
01:21:50,707 --> 01:21:55,387
Speaker 1: Sporting World Weekend Sport with Jason Hie they call eighties

1566
01:21:55,547 --> 01:21:56,787
Speaker 1: eight us Talks.

1567
01:21:57,227 --> 01:22:00,027
Speaker 2: Four to two After two will focus in on a

1568
01:22:00,067 --> 01:22:03,147
Speaker 2: couple of big sporting fixtures in the next few hours

1569
01:22:03,387 --> 01:22:06,227
Speaker 2: and go Media Stadium five o'clock this afternoon. Auckland FC

1570
01:22:06,427 --> 01:22:08,507
Speaker 2: up against the Western Sydney Wanderers. Win this game at

1571
01:22:08,507 --> 01:22:11,787
Speaker 2: Auckland FC will go ten points clear for the meantime anyway,

1572
01:22:11,907 --> 01:22:15,227
Speaker 2: and could could secure the Premier's plate in the A

1573
01:22:15,387 --> 01:22:18,987
Speaker 2: League as early as next weekend. Dan Hall back into

1574
01:22:19,027 --> 01:22:21,627
Speaker 2: the side after a long layoff with a broken ankle

1575
01:22:22,187 --> 01:22:23,787
Speaker 2: and a big part of the clean sheet they kept

1576
01:22:23,867 --> 01:22:25,827
Speaker 2: last week against Brisbane, so he's on the show before

1577
01:22:25,907 --> 01:22:29,827
Speaker 2: three o'clock. First up though after the News Blues the Hurricanes,

1578
01:22:30,067 --> 01:22:33,187
Speaker 2: Eden Park will get inside both camps Kurt Eklund out

1579
01:22:33,187 --> 01:22:36,427
Speaker 2: of the Blues and Duplessi Cudifee first up from the Hurricanes.

1580
01:22:38,227 --> 01:22:41,027
Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest fours issues on

1581
01:22:41,507 --> 01:22:42,667
Speaker 1: and after fields.

1582
01:22:43,187 --> 01:22:44,987
Speaker 6: It's all on Weekend Sport.

1583
01:22:44,787 --> 01:22:49,507
Speaker 1: With Jason Paine on your home of Sport New Talk.

1584
01:22:50,747 --> 01:22:52,907
Speaker 2: Hello, do this is Weekend Sport on News Talks. He'd

1585
01:22:52,947 --> 01:22:55,467
Speaker 2: be until three. Tim Beverage will take over after that.

1586
01:22:55,627 --> 01:22:57,707
Speaker 2: Lots to get through before we can hand over though.

1587
01:22:58,387 --> 01:23:00,267
Speaker 2: As you heard during our Sports news, New Zealand have

1588
01:23:00,347 --> 01:23:02,787
Speaker 2: lost their second wicked of Mount Bonganui. Henry Nicholls out

1589
01:23:02,787 --> 01:23:06,427
Speaker 2: for thirty one, New Zealand ninety one for two in

1590
01:23:06,467 --> 01:23:10,467
Speaker 2: the eighteenth over Reese Mario's brought up his maiden international

1591
01:23:10,747 --> 01:23:14,027
Speaker 2: half century unbeaten on fifty off fifty five balls at

1592
01:23:14,067 --> 01:23:16,787
Speaker 2: the moment, joined by Daryl Mitchell, who's faced three balls

1593
01:23:16,827 --> 01:23:19,547
Speaker 2: without yet scoring ninety one for two. It's a forty

1594
01:23:19,667 --> 01:23:23,787
Speaker 2: two overmatch to finish out the international home summer meantime,

1595
01:23:24,027 --> 01:23:27,907
Speaker 2: on Auckland's north shore at North Harbor Stadium, Albany, they're

1596
01:23:27,947 --> 01:23:31,707
Speaker 2: underway between Wana Pacifica and the Waratars. What on earth

1597
01:23:31,787 --> 01:23:32,947
Speaker 2: is going on with these shirts?

1598
01:23:35,547 --> 01:23:35,827
Speaker 5: Andy?

1599
01:23:35,907 --> 01:23:38,587
Speaker 2: What is going on with these shirts? Who is who?

1600
01:23:39,827 --> 01:23:40,507
Speaker 6: Who is who?

1601
01:23:40,707 --> 01:23:43,347
Speaker 9: Well, poney, pony, and I'll make it easy for you.

1602
01:23:43,507 --> 01:23:47,227
Speaker 9: In blue is Minor Pacifica and in blue is the

1603
01:23:47,307 --> 01:23:47,867
Speaker 9: war Retars.

1604
01:23:48,187 --> 01:23:50,867
Speaker 2: Did that clear that up? I mean my Wana Pacifica

1605
01:23:51,067 --> 01:23:53,227
Speaker 2: are slightly darker blue, and that is it?

1606
01:23:53,387 --> 01:23:53,547
Speaker 6: Right?

1607
01:23:54,747 --> 01:23:54,947
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1608
01:23:55,027 --> 01:23:59,387
Speaker 9: Well kind of like the shorts are the same color

1609
01:23:59,547 --> 01:24:02,987
Speaker 9: as the Waratar's shirts, yes, and vice versa. Yeah, and

1610
01:24:03,067 --> 01:24:08,467
Speaker 9: the Waratars shirts of the and shure it's the same

1611
01:24:08,467 --> 01:24:09,667
Speaker 9: as mine and Pacifica's shirt.

1612
01:24:09,747 --> 01:24:14,867
Speaker 2: So this sort of back to front I suppose. I'm

1613
01:24:14,907 --> 01:24:16,507
Speaker 2: not sure what's going on. What I can tell you

1614
01:24:16,667 --> 01:24:19,667
Speaker 2: is they're underway and there is no score through ninety

1615
01:24:19,707 --> 01:24:21,867
Speaker 2: seconds of this game. We'll keep you up to date

1616
01:24:21,907 --> 01:24:23,827
Speaker 2: with that and with the cricket and anything else that

1617
01:24:23,907 --> 01:24:27,027
Speaker 2: jumps into our radar as well. This out Duplicy Codifi

1618
01:24:27,067 --> 01:24:29,067
Speaker 2: out of the Hurricanes, Kurdkland out of the Blues, dan

1619
01:24:29,147 --> 01:24:31,507
Speaker 2: hallland of Auckland FC. As we look forward to a

1620
01:24:31,547 --> 01:24:33,867
Speaker 2: big few hours ahead in the City of Sales. Before

1621
01:24:33,867 --> 01:24:36,027
Speaker 2: we get to any of that, though, as we always

1622
01:24:36,067 --> 01:24:38,387
Speaker 2: do around about this time on weekend sport, let's get

1623
01:24:38,387 --> 01:24:39,947
Speaker 2: you up to date with some of the things that

1624
01:24:40,067 --> 01:24:43,147
Speaker 2: you might have missed in case you missed it, as

1625
01:24:43,187 --> 01:24:45,867
Speaker 2: the name of the feature, and we start with golf,

1626
01:24:46,387 --> 01:24:51,787
Speaker 2: the Valero Texas Open and an ace for Tony final.

1627
01:24:55,587 --> 01:25:06,067
Speaker 6: Good line again, that's one way to get inside.

1628
01:25:05,787 --> 01:25:08,227
Speaker 2: The number of yeah holdand one for Tony Fenale still

1629
01:25:08,267 --> 01:25:09,947
Speaker 2: a bit off the pace though tied for thirty eighth

1630
01:25:10,027 --> 01:25:12,547
Speaker 2: kee we Ryan Fox though has missed the Cup, tied

1631
01:25:12,587 --> 01:25:15,267
Speaker 2: for one hundred and thirty thirty won't play the weekend

1632
01:25:15,867 --> 01:25:18,387
Speaker 2: to the A League and MacArthur picking up a big

1633
01:25:18,507 --> 01:25:21,987
Speaker 2: win over the woefully out of form Brisbane Raw in Brisbane.

1634
01:25:22,067 --> 01:25:25,747
Speaker 6: Now it's a seventh added type silver to send it

1635
01:25:25,867 --> 01:25:30,347
Speaker 6: in and Sire does get his car maybe with the

1636
01:25:30,467 --> 01:25:33,707
Speaker 6: last touch to the ball of the night.

1637
01:25:33,827 --> 01:25:39,147
Speaker 2: That's up Cot five one MacArthur over Brisbane. Liam Lawson

1638
01:25:39,467 --> 01:25:43,947
Speaker 2: impressive in practice session number two at the Japanese Grand Prix.

1639
01:25:44,147 --> 01:25:47,707
Speaker 8: Who with Piastri we go now towards spoot Curve, such

1640
01:25:47,747 --> 01:25:49,107
Speaker 8: a crucial corner.

1641
01:25:48,987 --> 01:25:52,507
Speaker 15: As Lawson goes third fastest to get right on entry.

1642
01:25:52,427 --> 01:25:54,827
Speaker 2: Add that to the on exit too, so Liam Lawson

1643
01:25:54,907 --> 01:25:58,427
Speaker 2: finishing the disrupted practice session with the fifth fastest time

1644
01:25:58,867 --> 01:26:01,787
Speaker 2: ahead of both of the Red Bull cars. Third practice

1645
01:26:01,787 --> 01:26:03,467
Speaker 2: session coming up in about an hour or so, then

1646
01:26:03,547 --> 01:26:06,147
Speaker 2: qualifying later on tonight, the race tomorrow and in the

1647
01:26:06,347 --> 01:26:09,107
Speaker 2: the NRL. South Sydney had the better of the roosters

1648
01:26:09,147 --> 01:26:10,827
Speaker 2: in their blood feud or looking.

1649
01:26:10,707 --> 01:26:12,867
Speaker 8: At field goal, they couldn't have done it any better.

1650
01:26:14,267 --> 01:26:15,147
Speaker 6: With sous Are up.

1651
01:26:15,147 --> 01:26:18,907
Speaker 5: Shallow, Mitchell shows up for pass.

1652
01:26:19,347 --> 01:26:23,507
Speaker 8: What a show that what a starf tat Staff in

1653
01:26:23,627 --> 01:26:24,187
Speaker 8: the quarner.

1654
01:26:25,267 --> 01:26:26,587
Speaker 6: That is remarkable.

1655
01:26:27,107 --> 01:26:29,907
Speaker 2: Twenty fourteen they're in favor of the Bunnies. Also, the

1656
01:26:29,987 --> 01:26:33,547
Speaker 2: Penrith Panthers have gone for in a row. But shockingly

1657
01:26:33,747 --> 01:26:37,667
Speaker 2: it's four losses in a row for the Panthers as

1658
01:26:37,747 --> 01:26:40,187
Speaker 2: they fell to New Depths losing to the Cowboys. They

1659
01:26:40,267 --> 01:26:41,707
Speaker 2: need to score right here.

1660
01:26:42,347 --> 01:26:46,307
Speaker 10: It's Kennyth dummy half he goes to Cleary shows a

1661
01:26:46,547 --> 01:26:49,547
Speaker 10: clean out, the back comes back to the middle, Schneider

1662
01:26:49,907 --> 01:26:54,627
Speaker 10: puts it down, Clifford curses the era and the Cowboys

1663
01:26:54,947 --> 01:26:57,227
Speaker 10: have run for the second week.

1664
01:26:57,387 --> 01:26:57,907
Speaker 8: In a row.

1665
01:26:58,907 --> 01:27:03,867
Speaker 1: Breaking down the hail Mary's and the epic fields Weekend

1666
01:27:03,947 --> 01:27:07,747
Speaker 1: Sport with Jason Vine, new Stalk Envy incredible.

1667
01:27:07,747 --> 01:27:10,947
Speaker 2: The Penrith Panthers continue to show they are human after all.

1668
01:27:11,147 --> 01:27:13,347
Speaker 2: No Nathan Clary though, of course, which is a big

1669
01:27:13,427 --> 01:27:15,467
Speaker 2: part of all of that. He was there last night,

1670
01:27:15,547 --> 01:27:19,547
Speaker 2: all right, even he couldn't rescue them. Goodness me, Penrith,

1671
01:27:19,587 --> 01:27:21,707
Speaker 2: what's going on? I guess all dynasties do have to

1672
01:27:21,747 --> 01:27:24,387
Speaker 2: come to an end at some point. Let's go to

1673
01:27:24,467 --> 01:27:27,907
Speaker 2: Super Rugby Blues Hurricanes, Eden Park just after seven tonight

1674
01:27:27,987 --> 01:27:30,667
Speaker 2: on Gold Sport and iHeartRadio. They've picked it up from.

1675
01:27:30,587 --> 01:27:32,227
Speaker 5: The both Roy Guard the Little sell and go. He's

1676
01:27:32,267 --> 01:27:32,787
Speaker 5: boken through.

1677
01:27:33,027 --> 01:27:34,587
Speaker 12: He's got crave on the inside.

1678
01:27:34,787 --> 01:27:38,667
Speaker 2: Tuplicy can Ave is away, Tupy Cave Star.

1679
01:27:39,147 --> 01:27:41,427
Speaker 5: Thirty eight minu hen he loves it.

1680
01:27:41,787 --> 01:27:44,467
Speaker 16: Can Right Guard, welcome back, the Canes.

1681
01:27:44,187 --> 01:27:46,467
Speaker 2: Are up by five to know our nice work. Cross

1682
01:27:46,507 --> 01:27:49,027
Speaker 2: Bond on the commentary, Hurricanes loose forward and co captain

1683
01:27:49,067 --> 01:27:52,187
Speaker 2: Duplasy Kadifi is with us here on Weekend Sport. Thanks

1684
01:27:52,227 --> 01:27:55,067
Speaker 2: for joining us on game day, Duplicity, as you look

1685
01:27:55,187 --> 01:27:58,867
Speaker 2: to break out of some early season inconsistency. How big

1686
01:27:58,947 --> 01:28:02,147
Speaker 2: a result has significant a result and a performance was

1687
01:28:02,267 --> 01:28:05,227
Speaker 2: last weekend's big win over the Waratars in Wellington.

1688
01:28:06,387 --> 01:28:11,027
Speaker 16: The last week's game was it's the awesome I guess

1689
01:28:11,147 --> 01:28:13,667
Speaker 16: note to the coaching and work we've been doing throughout

1690
01:28:13,707 --> 01:28:15,307
Speaker 16: the week, so it was really nice to just see

1691
01:28:15,387 --> 01:28:18,187
Speaker 16: things click in a sense and build a little bit

1692
01:28:18,227 --> 01:28:21,347
Speaker 16: of momentum following on from the Hollander's winning the Bie week,

1693
01:28:21,467 --> 01:28:24,587
Speaker 16: so you know, hopefully we can build on that again

1694
01:28:25,307 --> 01:28:26,587
Speaker 16: this evening against the Blues.

1695
01:28:27,307 --> 01:28:28,987
Speaker 2: When you look back on the first four games of

1696
01:28:29,027 --> 01:28:31,067
Speaker 2: the season, just the one win there, as you were

1697
01:28:31,067 --> 01:28:32,907
Speaker 2: trying to work out, you know, what was going on,

1698
01:28:33,347 --> 01:28:35,907
Speaker 2: were you able to put your finger on any specific

1699
01:28:36,107 --> 01:28:38,027
Speaker 2: reasons for the slow ish start.

1700
01:28:40,507 --> 01:28:46,107
Speaker 16: Yeah, it's a good question, I think, you know, yeah,

1701
01:28:46,107 --> 01:28:48,027
Speaker 16: there is probably a few things that you could probably

1702
01:28:49,347 --> 01:28:52,747
Speaker 16: I guess look towards. But I think just we've seen

1703
01:28:52,827 --> 01:28:55,227
Speaker 16: in the Highlanders game a real trust in our system,

1704
01:28:55,347 --> 01:28:59,907
Speaker 16: especially on defense, and I think that flowed on to

1705
01:29:00,027 --> 01:29:02,187
Speaker 16: the to the Warrtars game. But you just saw the

1706
01:29:02,227 --> 01:29:06,147
Speaker 16: boys playing with a real sense of connection, trust and

1707
01:29:06,347 --> 01:29:10,227
Speaker 16: each other, trust in the plan, and you know that

1708
01:29:10,427 --> 01:29:13,227
Speaker 16: that held us in good stead. So yeah, I would

1709
01:29:13,307 --> 01:29:15,827
Speaker 16: I would tend to say that might be one of

1710
01:29:15,907 --> 01:29:18,267
Speaker 16: the one of the big rocks that we kind of.

1711
01:29:18,467 --> 01:29:19,187
Speaker 11: Have looked to fix.

1712
01:29:19,307 --> 01:29:22,187
Speaker 16: But yeah, it's probably a few other things.

1713
01:29:22,867 --> 01:29:25,307
Speaker 2: Just on that defensive system and the trust in that system.

1714
01:29:25,347 --> 01:29:27,707
Speaker 2: It's an interesting concept to me. So what does that

1715
01:29:27,827 --> 01:29:31,627
Speaker 2: look like when there is full trust in a defensive system?

1716
01:29:31,707 --> 01:29:31,827
Speaker 12: Is it?

1717
01:29:31,987 --> 01:29:35,507
Speaker 2: Is it basically knowing that that your teammates are going

1718
01:29:35,587 --> 01:29:37,307
Speaker 2: to do what's required of them as long as you

1719
01:29:37,427 --> 01:29:38,387
Speaker 2: do what's required of you.

1720
01:29:40,427 --> 01:29:43,467
Speaker 16: Yeah, to put it as simply as possible, it's trusting

1721
01:29:43,587 --> 01:29:45,347
Speaker 16: that just like you say, the guy next to he's

1722
01:29:45,347 --> 01:29:48,307
Speaker 16: going to do his job, which means you won't see

1723
01:29:48,387 --> 01:29:52,187
Speaker 16: boys go out of said system or you know, try

1724
01:29:52,267 --> 01:29:56,187
Speaker 16: to make things happen for the group. They just do

1725
01:29:56,427 --> 01:29:59,907
Speaker 16: what as required of them in their particular moment, knowing

1726
01:29:59,947 --> 01:30:02,467
Speaker 16: that someone else is going to do the same in

1727
01:30:02,547 --> 01:30:06,227
Speaker 16: the next moment. So yeah, it's pretty much like that.

1728
01:30:06,427 --> 01:30:08,187
Speaker 16: You know, we've got fifteen boys on the field, and

1729
01:30:09,667 --> 01:30:12,227
Speaker 16: you know if we're not trusting each other and boys

1730
01:30:12,227 --> 01:30:14,187
Speaker 16: are trying to step on each other's toes and do

1731
01:30:15,107 --> 01:30:17,027
Speaker 16: do X y Z, and it's it's not going to help.

1732
01:30:17,107 --> 01:30:20,347
Speaker 16: So yeah, that's kind of yeah, like you say, that's

1733
01:30:20,387 --> 01:30:20,827
Speaker 16: how it goes.

1734
01:30:21,427 --> 01:30:25,867
Speaker 2: The Hurricanes have probably the most stacked loose forward unit

1735
01:30:25,947 --> 01:30:28,827
Speaker 2: in the whole comp There's yourself, Braidon, You'll see Peter Larkeye,

1736
01:30:28,867 --> 01:30:30,867
Speaker 2: Brad Shields. All of you have had at least one

1737
01:30:30,947 --> 01:30:33,467
Speaker 2: game off the bench. Brandon and Peter have played in

1738
01:30:33,507 --> 01:30:37,467
Speaker 2: different positions. How does that loose forward dynamic work during

1739
01:30:37,507 --> 01:30:39,907
Speaker 2: the week as you're prepare for the role that each

1740
01:30:39,987 --> 01:30:41,827
Speaker 2: of you us asked to play in each game.

1741
01:30:44,027 --> 01:30:47,267
Speaker 16: Yeah, we're really we're really blessed, I guess with the

1742
01:30:47,507 --> 01:30:51,027
Speaker 16: talent and the not just the talent, but the work

1743
01:30:51,067 --> 01:30:54,187
Speaker 16: ethic that we have within our listrio. You know, we

1744
01:30:54,307 --> 01:30:57,107
Speaker 16: were boys that we're at home they haven't played yet,

1745
01:30:57,147 --> 01:31:02,187
Speaker 16: that are challenging us every week. Johnnie Halloeyla Patrick reci

1746
01:31:02,827 --> 01:31:05,467
Speaker 16: even Devin Flanders he's coming back from a broken ankle.

1747
01:31:05,587 --> 01:31:09,787
Speaker 16: So you know, we're we're really lucky in their sense

1748
01:31:09,827 --> 01:31:12,227
Speaker 16: and the group works really well to you to figure

1749
01:31:12,227 --> 01:31:14,427
Speaker 16: out what what the boys who are playing need and

1750
01:31:14,547 --> 01:31:17,547
Speaker 16: we go after that. So yeah, it's a massive challenge.

1751
01:31:17,547 --> 01:31:19,387
Speaker 16: And I don't en be our coaches trying to pick

1752
01:31:19,427 --> 01:31:23,747
Speaker 16: the tree each week because you know, any number of

1753
01:31:23,827 --> 01:31:26,907
Speaker 16: us could start week and week out. So I think

1754
01:31:27,067 --> 01:31:30,667
Speaker 16: as players and as a group, our focus is just

1755
01:31:30,707 --> 01:31:32,427
Speaker 16: to put our best foot forward and make that decision

1756
01:31:32,467 --> 01:31:35,147
Speaker 16: as hard as possible for the coaches, and then once

1757
01:31:35,147 --> 01:31:37,827
Speaker 16: they make the decision, just trust that they're making the

1758
01:31:37,907 --> 01:31:40,347
Speaker 16: decision for the right reasons and work of that. And

1759
01:31:40,507 --> 01:31:43,107
Speaker 16: so you know, testament to Brad, he was on the

1760
01:31:43,147 --> 01:31:45,867
Speaker 16: bench last week and he's there again, but you would

1761
01:31:45,947 --> 01:31:48,707
Speaker 16: never you would never tell if you were talking to

1762
01:31:48,787 --> 01:31:51,387
Speaker 16: him throughout the week. Nothing changes around his breath and

1763
01:31:51,467 --> 01:31:54,227
Speaker 16: how he leads the group. Heiece fully supportive of the

1764
01:31:54,307 --> 01:31:58,467
Speaker 16: three that are starting. And yeah, I just have an

1765
01:31:58,507 --> 01:32:01,867
Speaker 16: extreme admiration for players like that who don't change whether

1766
01:32:01,907 --> 01:32:04,147
Speaker 16: they're starting on the bench or not playing.

1767
01:32:04,427 --> 01:32:08,027
Speaker 2: Yeah, total pro that's for sure. When you review your

1768
01:32:08,107 --> 01:32:10,747
Speaker 2: own performance, as dupes, when you on a Monday or

1769
01:32:10,787 --> 01:32:13,467
Speaker 2: whenever it is, review your own performance, what are the

1770
01:32:13,587 --> 01:32:17,587
Speaker 2: metrics or the stats that you pay particular attention.

1771
01:32:17,347 --> 01:32:21,587
Speaker 16: To look at a lie party, I don't look at

1772
01:32:21,627 --> 01:32:26,267
Speaker 16: any stets, I just look at whether I'm effective or not.

1773
01:32:28,787 --> 01:32:31,907
Speaker 16: And so an example of that is, there's a ruck

1774
01:32:31,947 --> 01:32:34,467
Speaker 16: that I need a claim. Have I done a good

1775
01:32:34,787 --> 01:32:37,307
Speaker 16: Am I effective there and done exactly what we need

1776
01:32:37,587 --> 01:32:40,947
Speaker 16: in that moment, you know, to produce goodball for a

1777
01:32:41,067 --> 01:32:44,347
Speaker 16: half bit, there's a tackle that needs to be made. Yeah,

1778
01:32:44,347 --> 01:32:45,987
Speaker 16: I could make the tackle in their counts as a

1779
01:32:46,027 --> 01:32:48,507
Speaker 16: tackle made, but you know, is it an effective tackle?

1780
01:32:48,587 --> 01:32:52,507
Speaker 16: Is it a dominant tackle? So yeah, just to shed

1781
01:32:52,507 --> 01:32:55,867
Speaker 16: a little bit of line in your Christian I don't

1782
01:32:55,947 --> 01:32:58,707
Speaker 16: really look at stats because I don't think stets pay

1783
01:32:58,747 --> 01:33:02,227
Speaker 16: the whole picture. I look at whether or not what

1784
01:33:02,387 --> 01:33:04,947
Speaker 16: I did in the moment benefited our team in a

1785
01:33:04,987 --> 01:33:06,947
Speaker 16: positive way or if it put us on the bad foot.

1786
01:33:07,027 --> 01:33:10,827
Speaker 2: So yeah, good answer. I do have a step. I

1787
01:33:10,907 --> 01:33:14,187
Speaker 2: do have a step for you. Though you've you personally

1788
01:33:14,347 --> 01:33:19,467
Speaker 2: have only conceded two penalties in six games this season.

1789
01:33:20,067 --> 01:33:21,907
Speaker 2: Is that a part of the game that you have

1790
01:33:22,027 --> 01:33:25,507
Speaker 2: specifically worked hard on? I mean, look, you and I've

1791
01:33:25,507 --> 01:33:26,947
Speaker 2: spoken about this on the past. You know I used

1792
01:33:26,947 --> 01:33:28,627
Speaker 2: to give up penalties. You know you don't give them

1793
01:33:28,707 --> 01:33:30,707
Speaker 2: up very often at all. Now, is it a work

1794
01:33:30,787 --> 01:33:32,787
Speaker 2: on that you have specifically focused on.

1795
01:33:34,947 --> 01:33:37,587
Speaker 16: It is definitely a work on that I've focused on,

1796
01:33:37,787 --> 01:33:41,467
Speaker 16: but I haven't focused on not giving away penalties. Are

1797
01:33:41,547 --> 01:33:45,067
Speaker 16: focused on just being better and making better decisions, and

1798
01:33:45,187 --> 01:33:47,187
Speaker 16: the penalty count as a byproduct.

1799
01:33:46,747 --> 01:33:47,347
Speaker 14: Of that, I hope.

1800
01:33:50,067 --> 01:33:52,947
Speaker 16: Yeah, it's something that I'm really really proud of. But

1801
01:33:52,987 --> 01:33:57,027
Speaker 16: it's no like, yeah, I guess it's no biggie because

1802
01:33:57,067 --> 01:33:58,347
Speaker 16: at the end of the day, that's all we want

1803
01:33:58,347 --> 01:34:00,147
Speaker 16: for our players is to be reliable and not give

1804
01:34:00,187 --> 01:34:03,387
Speaker 16: away penalties. So yeah, in a sense, I'm actually just

1805
01:34:03,467 --> 01:34:07,547
Speaker 16: doing my job. So yeah, I think I've just yeah,

1806
01:34:07,547 --> 01:34:10,147
Speaker 16: I've just really worked on my decision making. And I

1807
01:34:10,267 --> 01:34:13,587
Speaker 16: think early on in my career, especially you know, twenty nineteen,

1808
01:34:13,707 --> 01:34:17,467
Speaker 16: twenty twenty one, a lot of those penalities were driven

1809
01:34:17,507 --> 01:34:20,827
Speaker 16: by ego me thinking that I could get something that

1810
01:34:21,707 --> 01:34:26,987
Speaker 16: you know definitely could not get, you know, like and

1811
01:34:27,107 --> 01:34:29,707
Speaker 16: then we allude back to the trust, which we talked

1812
01:34:29,747 --> 01:34:33,547
Speaker 16: about it out of the start of the interview. There

1813
01:34:33,667 --> 01:34:36,707
Speaker 16: wasn't a lot of trust from me in the system,

1814
01:34:36,947 --> 01:34:40,107
Speaker 16: whereas now I don't need to put myself out there

1815
01:34:40,147 --> 01:34:43,387
Speaker 16: in a compromised position because I know that we might

1816
01:34:43,467 --> 01:34:45,467
Speaker 16: get the ball back a few phases later or someone

1817
01:34:45,507 --> 01:34:47,067
Speaker 16: else is going to do it in a better position.

1818
01:34:47,267 --> 01:34:50,667
Speaker 16: So yeah, it is a it's a byproduct, I guess,

1819
01:34:50,747 --> 01:34:54,107
Speaker 16: the penal account of just making better decisions and trusting everyone.

1820
01:34:54,947 --> 01:34:58,187
Speaker 2: Well, it's part of your game. That is part of

1821
01:34:58,227 --> 01:35:00,787
Speaker 2: the whole game, which is turning a lot aheads your

1822
01:35:00,827 --> 01:35:05,267
Speaker 2: performances this season. Most people are picking you to make

1823
01:35:05,307 --> 01:35:07,307
Speaker 2: the All Blacks this year. Uh are you aware of

1824
01:35:07,427 --> 01:35:07,907
Speaker 2: that noise?

1825
01:35:10,547 --> 01:35:15,387
Speaker 16: Yeah, you didn't know. I guess be under a rock

1826
01:35:15,547 --> 01:35:17,267
Speaker 16: not to not to see it and feel it. But

1827
01:35:18,267 --> 01:35:20,507
Speaker 16: I think I'm mature enough now to not take any

1828
01:35:20,547 --> 01:35:22,587
Speaker 16: of it in my stride, not you know, like not

1829
01:35:22,707 --> 01:35:24,587
Speaker 16: let it thick me. If they think my week, I

1830
01:35:24,667 --> 01:35:29,827
Speaker 16: think my prep just taking it in my stride. You,

1831
01:35:29,987 --> 01:35:31,707
Speaker 16: for example, plenty of a lot of respect to you,

1832
01:35:31,787 --> 01:35:33,227
Speaker 16: so I always want to give you my time. But

1833
01:35:34,347 --> 01:35:38,347
Speaker 16: I don't feel like, you know, doing media is something

1834
01:35:38,427 --> 01:35:41,827
Speaker 16: that has a negative effect on me. Yeah, it's just

1835
01:35:41,907 --> 01:35:43,547
Speaker 16: part of the job, really, And at the end of

1836
01:35:43,587 --> 01:35:45,827
Speaker 16: the day, it's not up to me. It's not up

1837
01:35:45,867 --> 01:35:48,907
Speaker 16: to the media hopex the thing. It's up to the

1838
01:35:49,787 --> 01:35:52,627
Speaker 16: after the big dogs. And you know, if I'm in

1839
01:35:52,707 --> 01:35:55,667
Speaker 16: that picture Soviet, if I'm not, then all I can

1840
01:35:55,707 --> 01:35:58,547
Speaker 16: do is play well for the Hurricane and at the moment,

1841
01:35:59,187 --> 01:36:01,387
Speaker 16: you know, that's something I'm extremely passionate about and so

1842
01:36:01,547 --> 01:36:05,387
Speaker 16: hopefully we can. Yeah, hopefully I'll.

1843
01:36:05,267 --> 01:36:07,987
Speaker 2: Put my beast for forward for our You're certainly doing that.

1844
01:36:08,227 --> 01:36:11,147
Speaker 2: And last week you recommitted to the Hurricanes and New

1845
01:36:11,187 --> 01:36:14,107
Speaker 2: Zealand Rugby through until the end of twenty twenty seven.

1846
01:36:14,427 --> 01:36:16,227
Speaker 2: Like I'm sure you could have. You could have earned

1847
01:36:16,227 --> 01:36:19,107
Speaker 2: a lot more money overseas. How big was the lure

1848
01:36:19,147 --> 01:36:22,787
Speaker 2: of of the black jersey and your your love for

1849
01:36:22,867 --> 01:36:25,587
Speaker 2: this Hurricanes club and your decision to stay.

1850
01:36:28,947 --> 01:36:34,107
Speaker 16: Yeah, it was messive. I wouldn't say it was. I

1851
01:36:34,147 --> 01:36:35,787
Speaker 16: wouldn't say it was the whole piece of the Like,

1852
01:36:36,547 --> 01:36:38,427
Speaker 16: was the whole reason for me to stay. A lot

1853
01:36:38,467 --> 01:36:45,067
Speaker 16: of the decision decision came around fulfillment leaving and having

1854
01:36:45,187 --> 01:36:47,667
Speaker 16: water kind of questions floating in the back of my mind,

1855
01:36:49,387 --> 01:36:51,947
Speaker 16: feeling like I wasn't using my you know, my best

1856
01:36:52,027 --> 01:36:57,187
Speaker 16: rugby years to their full extent. So yeah, a lot

1857
01:36:57,227 --> 01:37:01,347
Speaker 16: of it actually was that they were just just knowing

1858
01:37:01,387 --> 01:37:03,027
Speaker 16: that I had a little bit more to gourb or

1859
01:37:03,107 --> 01:37:06,147
Speaker 16: more to gurb and and things. I guess that I'm

1860
01:37:06,387 --> 01:37:08,187
Speaker 16: out the way we wanted them to. Then at least

1861
01:37:08,187 --> 01:37:10,987
Speaker 16: I know and within myself that I gave them my

1862
01:37:11,067 --> 01:37:12,987
Speaker 16: all and I can be at peace in a sense.

1863
01:37:14,387 --> 01:37:16,507
Speaker 2: All right, let's circle back to tonight to finish the

1864
01:37:16,587 --> 01:37:20,627
Speaker 2: Blues just the one win in their six games against you. Actually,

1865
01:37:21,467 --> 01:37:24,347
Speaker 2: even given that, how threatening an opponent do you expect

1866
01:37:24,387 --> 01:37:25,507
Speaker 2: them to beat in part tonight?

1867
01:37:26,947 --> 01:37:27,067
Speaker 12: Oh?

1868
01:37:27,227 --> 01:37:30,267
Speaker 16: Massively, there's no. Yeah, there's no two ways about it.

1869
01:37:31,267 --> 01:37:33,427
Speaker 16: They're having a you know, they'll be the first to

1870
01:37:33,507 --> 01:37:36,027
Speaker 16: admit that they're having a rough season, but that does

1871
01:37:36,107 --> 01:37:38,707
Speaker 16: not mean that on the night they can they can't

1872
01:37:38,747 --> 01:37:41,667
Speaker 16: beat anyone. So we know that they're raigning champs. They've

1873
01:37:41,667 --> 01:37:43,267
Speaker 16: got a lot of boys coming back from injury this

1874
01:37:43,387 --> 01:37:47,027
Speaker 16: week and they're calling me side a lot of a

1875
01:37:47,107 --> 01:37:50,027
Speaker 16: lot of experience in their group, So you know, the

1876
01:37:50,107 --> 01:37:52,227
Speaker 16: challenge in front of us is one that we're we're

1877
01:37:52,267 --> 01:37:55,787
Speaker 16: extremely aware of, one that we're really looking forward to

1878
01:37:55,867 --> 01:37:58,947
Speaker 16: as well, and we know that last time down and

1879
01:38:00,587 --> 01:38:03,547
Speaker 16: down in Wellington we probably didn't play to our standards

1880
01:38:03,547 --> 01:38:07,267
Speaker 16: as well, So you know, extremely extremely dexcited to be

1881
01:38:07,307 --> 01:38:09,907
Speaker 16: playing and we know that the Blues are going to present.

1882
01:38:09,707 --> 01:38:13,107
Speaker 2: A mess of absolutely good on your thanks indeed, for

1883
01:38:13,147 --> 01:38:15,267
Speaker 2: the chap made all the best tonight. That's duplicit codify.

1884
01:38:15,387 --> 01:38:18,387
Speaker 2: Out of the Hurricanes Blues their opponent tonight, Kurt Ecklund

1885
01:38:18,747 --> 01:38:20,707
Speaker 2: out of the Blues with us shortly. What an impressive

1886
01:38:20,707 --> 01:38:23,907
Speaker 2: guy like you know, very biased of course because the

1887
01:38:24,027 --> 01:38:25,747
Speaker 2: Hurricanes are my team, but I don't think you have

1888
01:38:25,867 --> 01:38:29,027
Speaker 2: to be one eye to see that he is having

1889
01:38:29,067 --> 01:38:33,867
Speaker 2: a terrific season. Duplaicit codify. And the race for that

1890
01:38:34,147 --> 01:38:36,667
Speaker 2: seven jersey in the All Blacks is a race with

1891
01:38:36,787 --> 01:38:39,987
Speaker 2: him in it now, There's no question about it. He really,

1892
01:38:40,027 --> 01:38:43,587
Speaker 2: if you look across the New Zealand sides, is probably

1893
01:38:43,667 --> 01:38:47,467
Speaker 2: the form seven across the New Zealand teams. You look

1894
01:38:47,507 --> 01:38:49,867
Speaker 2: at the Crusaders and Ethan blackatter I see is coming

1895
01:38:49,907 --> 01:38:53,507
Speaker 2: off the bench tonight. He's He's worn seven though for

1896
01:38:54,067 --> 01:38:57,667
Speaker 2: the Crusaders for four games this season, so he's obviously

1897
01:38:58,107 --> 01:39:00,267
Speaker 2: in the conversation. I actually really like what I've seen

1898
01:39:00,307 --> 01:39:03,907
Speaker 2: from Sean Withe as well from the Highlanders or they

1899
01:39:03,987 --> 01:39:06,667
Speaker 2: see he's playing number eight tonight and has the last

1900
01:39:06,707 --> 01:39:09,107
Speaker 2: little while there is this versatility that comes into it.

1901
01:39:09,187 --> 01:39:13,667
Speaker 2: Of course. Up in Chiefs Country, the likes of Luke Jacobson,

1902
01:39:13,787 --> 01:39:18,587
Speaker 2: although oddly he hasn't played seven. It's been been others

1903
01:39:18,587 --> 01:39:20,507
Speaker 2: who have been in the seven jumper there and of

1904
01:39:20,627 --> 01:39:24,667
Speaker 2: course for the Blues you land on Dalton Papal. Another

1905
01:39:24,747 --> 01:39:26,787
Speaker 2: good battle tonight, you know, the battle of the sevens.

1906
01:39:26,827 --> 01:39:29,427
Speaker 2: We talked before too about the battle of the of

1907
01:39:29,507 --> 01:39:33,707
Speaker 2: the midfielders tonight, in particular Sullivan up against Yowanne. Well,

1908
01:39:34,467 --> 01:39:36,907
Speaker 2: not that sevens necessarily go head to head, but you

1909
01:39:36,987 --> 01:39:38,507
Speaker 2: can certainly at the end of tonight look at it

1910
01:39:38,507 --> 01:39:42,587
Speaker 2: and say who stood out more, Dalton Papale or duplas

1911
01:39:42,827 --> 01:39:46,507
Speaker 2: koifiet the feeling we will get the you know, get

1912
01:39:46,587 --> 01:39:51,907
Speaker 2: further clarity perhaps around who the form number seven is

1913
01:39:52,107 --> 01:39:54,987
Speaker 2: in the competition by watching that game tonight. I mean

1914
01:39:55,067 --> 01:39:57,747
Speaker 2: I think Dalton Papoali, by his own admission, would say, look,

1915
01:39:57,747 --> 01:40:00,707
Speaker 2: he hasn't had an absolute standout season, but you know

1916
01:40:00,827 --> 01:40:04,507
Speaker 2: he's a quality footballer, a quality player inside the Blues

1917
01:40:04,507 --> 01:40:06,467
Speaker 2: camp at a moment. This from a short time go

1918
01:40:06,627 --> 01:40:10,387
Speaker 2: though at North Harbor Stadium, Albany on the North Shore,

1919
01:40:10,427 --> 01:40:11,427
Speaker 2: courtesy of gold Sport.

1920
01:40:11,587 --> 01:40:14,467
Speaker 17: Attacking open side left now for Kitty flings the ball

1921
01:40:14,507 --> 01:40:18,187
Speaker 17: out to Swale bit a space numbers on the outside quotes.

1922
01:40:17,947 --> 01:40:21,267
Speaker 8: The passover O'Reilly tight time in the left corner. Tars

1923
01:40:21,347 --> 01:40:24,147
Speaker 8: gone five nil four a half gone a golf sport night.

1924
01:40:24,067 --> 01:40:26,227
Speaker 2: Hard right out Nathan Linn with the call of a

1925
01:40:26,307 --> 01:40:29,867
Speaker 2: Waratar's try which was converted, so seven nil. They lead

1926
01:40:29,907 --> 01:40:33,427
Speaker 2: the Warritars seven nil over Winea Pacifica at Albany, with

1927
01:40:33,507 --> 01:40:35,827
Speaker 2: about twenty minutes gone in that game and New Zealand

1928
01:40:35,827 --> 01:40:38,747
Speaker 2: had lost another wicke at Reece, Martio has been dismissed.

1929
01:40:38,787 --> 01:40:41,307
Speaker 2: He did get through to fifty though a maiden fifty

1930
01:40:41,467 --> 01:40:44,347
Speaker 2: in national colors for Reece. Mardio dismissed for fifty eight.

1931
01:40:44,747 --> 01:40:47,387
Speaker 2: New Zealander one hundred and ten for three in the

1932
01:40:47,467 --> 01:40:50,107
Speaker 2: twenty second over. With Tim Seifert back in the team

1933
01:40:50,307 --> 01:40:53,427
Speaker 2: the one to eighteen for the first time since twenty nineteen,

1934
01:40:54,187 --> 01:40:56,587
Speaker 2: he's joined Darryl Mitchell siphon. I'm beaten on one and

1935
01:40:56,747 --> 01:40:59,587
Speaker 2: Mitchell on ten, one hundred and ten for three, batting

1936
01:40:59,667 --> 01:41:03,187
Speaker 2: first in the twenty second of forty two overs two

1937
01:41:03,267 --> 01:41:04,787
Speaker 2: twenty five on the dot. When we come back, we're

1938
01:41:04,787 --> 01:41:07,227
Speaker 2: into the Blues camp. Kurt Ecklund to join us after this.

1939
01:41:08,187 --> 01:41:09,987
Speaker 4: It's more than just a game.

1940
01:41:10,347 --> 01:41:15,027
Speaker 1: Weekend sport with Jason Hyne and TJ. Gunnomes New Zealand's

1941
01:41:15,027 --> 01:41:16,147
Speaker 1: most trusted home builder.

1942
01:41:16,307 --> 01:41:19,707
Speaker 2: News Talks MB two twenty eight on News Talks EDB

1943
01:41:19,987 --> 01:41:23,267
Speaker 2: Super Rugby Round eight continues Tonight Blues Hurricanes Eden Park

1944
01:41:23,307 --> 01:41:27,147
Speaker 2: seven o'clock kickoff on Gold Sport and iHeartRadio. They march

1945
01:41:27,227 --> 01:41:30,347
Speaker 2: forward the Blues as Christy Pickins and more players from

1946
01:41:30,347 --> 01:41:33,107
Speaker 2: the backline marching towards the twilight over. They go Kurt

1947
01:41:33,147 --> 01:41:35,787
Speaker 2: Eckland the try for the Blues and they are packing it.

1948
01:41:36,467 --> 01:41:37,947
Speaker 2: I don't even know when that game was.

1949
01:41:38,667 --> 01:41:39,787
Speaker 6: When was that game?

1950
01:41:40,027 --> 01:41:43,547
Speaker 2: I don't even remember that try, calling that try from

1951
01:41:43,667 --> 01:41:46,347
Speaker 2: Kurt Eckland. When was it the start of last season?

1952
01:41:46,507 --> 01:41:49,547
Speaker 9: Money Kurt Eckland tryvus the Hurricanes, obviously because you were

1953
01:41:49,587 --> 01:41:51,787
Speaker 9: commentating that, I'm glad you picked what he was playing

1954
01:41:51,827 --> 01:41:54,907
Speaker 9: for the Phoenix for some reason. I'm glad you picked

1955
01:41:54,947 --> 01:41:58,467
Speaker 9: out that try. Kurt Eckland himself will be delighted, I'm

1956
01:41:58,507 --> 01:42:01,427
Speaker 9: sure he joins us. Now, thanks for your time, just

1957
01:42:01,507 --> 01:42:04,467
Speaker 9: a second appearance of the season for you. So what

1958
01:42:04,627 --> 01:42:07,947
Speaker 9: was the injury that kept out for the first month

1959
01:42:08,027 --> 01:42:08,667
Speaker 9: or so of the season.

1960
01:42:09,387 --> 01:42:11,307
Speaker 12: It's been a bit of a frustrating one of.

1961
01:42:12,907 --> 01:42:13,907
Speaker 4: Torn where my.

1962
01:42:15,707 --> 01:42:21,027
Speaker 12: What is it? My editor ad meets my where I'm

1963
01:42:21,027 --> 01:42:21,987
Speaker 12: supposed to have ads?

1964
01:42:22,027 --> 01:42:22,467
Speaker 16: It torn that.

1965
01:42:23,147 --> 01:42:26,187
Speaker 12: Anyways, it's been a bit of a frustrating one. I've

1966
01:42:26,187 --> 01:42:27,907
Speaker 12: got a bit of a Scots issue there that keeps

1967
01:42:28,107 --> 01:42:31,507
Speaker 12: getting reaggravated. And you know, it's on a good course

1968
01:42:31,587 --> 01:42:34,267
Speaker 12: coming back for that Chiefs game, but probably a little

1969
01:42:34,267 --> 01:42:37,267
Speaker 12: bit too much too soon sort of thing. So having

1970
01:42:38,387 --> 01:42:40,787
Speaker 12: missed the following game and having by which I think

1971
01:42:40,827 --> 01:42:42,507
Speaker 12: has given a good time to settled down and be

1972
01:42:42,547 --> 01:42:43,347
Speaker 12: ready for tonight.

1973
01:42:43,427 --> 01:42:45,427
Speaker 2: All right, so you feel like it, I mean, I

1974
01:42:45,507 --> 01:42:47,707
Speaker 2: guess you can never be entirely certain, can you, But

1975
01:42:47,787 --> 01:42:49,267
Speaker 2: you feel like like you'll be able to get a

1976
01:42:49,307 --> 01:42:51,227
Speaker 2: run of games and now that this is kind of

1977
01:42:51,267 --> 01:42:53,387
Speaker 2: behind you, Yeah, I'm hoping that.

1978
01:42:53,587 --> 01:42:56,547
Speaker 12: I think I'm just around my management of load and

1979
01:42:56,627 --> 01:42:58,827
Speaker 12: things like that throughout the week and then the way

1980
01:42:58,867 --> 01:43:02,027
Speaker 12: we're playing the games. If I'm smarter about that, then yeah,

1981
01:43:02,027 --> 01:43:04,387
Speaker 12: hopefully it's just so be a good run into the

1982
01:43:04,707 --> 01:43:05,387
Speaker 12: rest of the season.

1983
01:43:05,667 --> 01:43:07,507
Speaker 2: I guess nobody likes to be injured. But how how

1984
01:43:07,587 --> 01:43:10,187
Speaker 2: doubly frustrating was it watching on as the Blues you know,

1985
01:43:10,387 --> 01:43:12,587
Speaker 2: endured a pretty tough start of the season and you

1986
01:43:12,667 --> 01:43:14,307
Speaker 2: weren't really able to do too much about it.

1987
01:43:15,067 --> 01:43:17,307
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's tough, mate, Like you know, you're in their

1988
01:43:17,387 --> 01:43:21,027
Speaker 12: environments and you feel are hurt, you know, and I've

1989
01:43:21,027 --> 01:43:23,307
Speaker 12: been able to get out there to help or try

1990
01:43:23,387 --> 01:43:28,867
Speaker 12: and you know, ye do your thing to help the team.

1991
01:43:29,387 --> 01:43:32,667
Speaker 12: As frustrating, but you know, you can only support the

1992
01:43:32,707 --> 01:43:34,467
Speaker 12: boys where you can, and that's what I was trying

1993
01:43:34,507 --> 01:43:36,747
Speaker 12: to do, mate, Just try and keep the level of

1994
01:43:36,907 --> 01:43:39,427
Speaker 12: energy and enthusiasm up. And you know, I think, like

1995
01:43:39,547 --> 01:43:42,947
Speaker 12: we're still going a really good team and we only

1996
01:43:43,027 --> 01:43:44,707
Speaker 12: missed out in a couple of games by like one

1997
01:43:44,787 --> 01:43:48,267
Speaker 12: or two points, So I've been there there, you know.

1998
01:43:48,347 --> 01:43:50,747
Speaker 12: Once we make it all click and hopefully that's tonight,

1999
01:43:50,827 --> 01:43:52,827
Speaker 12: then yeah, things start going our way.

2000
01:43:53,027 --> 01:43:55,347
Speaker 2: Oh, no doubt. You're a good team. There's there's absolutely

2001
01:43:55,387 --> 01:43:57,227
Speaker 2: no question about there. With a couple of others coming

2002
01:43:57,267 --> 01:43:59,627
Speaker 2: back and as well yourself, but also a couple of

2003
01:44:00,107 --> 01:44:02,307
Speaker 2: ye your big big players, Patrick Doop a lot to

2004
01:44:02,787 --> 01:44:04,627
Speaker 2: Bote and boar It both back in the mix. How

2005
01:44:04,707 --> 01:44:07,147
Speaker 2: influent influential are those guys around your environment?

2006
01:44:07,787 --> 01:44:11,947
Speaker 12: Yeah, that are great leaders and the experience and probably

2007
01:44:12,027 --> 01:44:15,867
Speaker 12: the composure that they bring to the team is you know,

2008
01:44:15,907 --> 01:44:18,307
Speaker 12: probably what we need at this time of the season.

2009
01:44:18,427 --> 01:44:20,427
Speaker 12: So you know, we'll be looking forward to having them

2010
01:44:20,427 --> 01:44:22,147
Speaker 12: back out on the field and see what they can do.

2011
01:44:22,547 --> 01:44:24,547
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, they you've lost your front row mate or for

2012
01:44:24,627 --> 01:44:27,587
Speaker 2: talking the fussy for the rest of the season. I'm

2013
01:44:27,627 --> 01:44:30,027
Speaker 2: sure you're all getting around him to add support. But

2014
01:44:30,267 --> 01:44:31,427
Speaker 2: how big a loss is he?

2015
01:44:32,427 --> 01:44:34,587
Speaker 12: Yeah, again, he's one of those players like you just

2016
01:44:35,427 --> 01:44:38,467
Speaker 12: mentioned before. You know, the experience and maturity that he

2017
01:44:38,547 --> 01:44:40,907
Speaker 12: brings to the team is huge. You know, he's going

2018
01:44:40,947 --> 01:44:44,027
Speaker 12: to be like greatly missed. He's been great for their

2019
01:44:44,787 --> 01:44:47,547
Speaker 12: young front rows and has been for the last few years,

2020
01:44:47,587 --> 01:44:50,147
Speaker 12: you know, really helped getting around them, learning their roles

2021
01:44:50,187 --> 01:44:52,467
Speaker 12: and things like that. But you know we've got some

2022
01:44:52,587 --> 01:44:56,227
Speaker 12: young boys as well who can step up and take

2023
01:44:56,267 --> 01:44:59,627
Speaker 12: their opportunity now. But you know, well we'll still get

2024
01:44:59,667 --> 01:45:01,787
Speaker 12: around Offer and he'll he'll be in and around the

2025
01:45:01,867 --> 01:45:04,267
Speaker 12: camp and stuff like that, so you know, I'm sure

2026
01:45:04,347 --> 01:45:06,747
Speaker 12: he'll still be involved as much as he as a

2027
01:45:07,227 --> 01:45:07,347
Speaker 12: or U.

2028
01:45:07,427 --> 01:45:09,267
Speaker 2: Let's talk on field stuff, Kurt, Well, what have you

2029
01:45:09,427 --> 01:45:11,667
Speaker 2: mainly focused on in the past week or so building

2030
01:45:11,747 --> 01:45:14,947
Speaker 2: up towards tonight in your quest? You know, to turn

2031
01:45:15,027 --> 01:45:17,187
Speaker 2: things around and to start to gain some consistency.

2032
01:45:17,987 --> 01:45:21,347
Speaker 12: Yeah, well that's a big thing. Consistency. We talk about,

2033
01:45:21,387 --> 01:45:23,587
Speaker 12: you know, being good in patches, but been able to

2034
01:45:23,587 --> 01:45:26,987
Speaker 12: play the game for the whole eighty basics man, And

2035
01:45:27,147 --> 01:45:30,627
Speaker 12: that's like any rugby game. You know, you you now

2036
01:45:30,667 --> 01:45:33,347
Speaker 12: your basics, you hold onto the boy right into the field,

2037
01:45:33,707 --> 01:45:35,787
Speaker 12: and then you know, things start going your way. So

2038
01:45:35,867 --> 01:45:39,827
Speaker 12: I think just three if we've got a game plan

2039
01:45:40,027 --> 01:45:43,907
Speaker 12: that seems pretty drummed into us, and everyone seems pretty

2040
01:45:43,907 --> 01:45:46,947
Speaker 12: clear on the role that they need to be taken.

2041
01:45:47,067 --> 01:45:48,747
Speaker 12: So you know, it's been a good week of training too.

2042
01:45:48,827 --> 01:45:51,307
Speaker 12: The intensity has been good. I think the break, the

2043
01:45:51,387 --> 01:45:55,547
Speaker 12: week off has let everyone just refresh, get away from

2044
01:45:55,667 --> 01:45:56,987
Speaker 12: ugbly a little bit, and come back with a bit

2045
01:45:57,027 --> 01:45:57,787
Speaker 12: of enthusiasm.

2046
01:45:58,707 --> 01:46:00,707
Speaker 2: The nature of your role of it's always interested me

2047
01:46:00,867 --> 01:46:02,987
Speaker 2: in the hooking role in that it's very rare these

2048
01:46:03,067 --> 01:46:05,507
Speaker 2: days to play eighty minutes and and you know you

2049
01:46:05,587 --> 01:46:07,867
Speaker 2: play a mixed don't. I think last year you applied

2050
01:46:07,867 --> 01:46:10,987
Speaker 2: a mix of starting hook or an impact hooker. Swapping

2051
01:46:11,107 --> 01:46:14,067
Speaker 2: sometimes from week to week, are the roles quite different

2052
01:46:14,107 --> 01:46:16,667
Speaker 2: if you're wearing two rather than sixteen or vice versa.

2053
01:46:18,427 --> 01:46:22,787
Speaker 12: I think, like for a mindset, they're a little bit

2054
01:46:22,827 --> 01:46:26,507
Speaker 12: different because when you're starting, you're getting all the reps

2055
01:46:26,547 --> 01:46:28,347
Speaker 12: throughout the week, you're getting everything that you need, and

2056
01:46:28,387 --> 01:46:31,067
Speaker 12: when you're coming off the bench, you probably get a

2057
01:46:31,187 --> 01:46:36,787
Speaker 12: little bit less around training. So your mindset around your

2058
01:46:36,827 --> 01:46:39,827
Speaker 12: homework and your clarity has to be right on because

2059
01:46:39,867 --> 01:46:42,507
Speaker 12: you aren't getting as many reps. And then when you're

2060
01:46:42,507 --> 01:46:45,467
Speaker 12: coming off the bench, you've got to be very clear

2061
01:46:45,587 --> 01:46:51,427
Speaker 12: because you don't have time to like work out what's

2062
01:46:51,467 --> 01:46:53,147
Speaker 12: going well. You've got the time on the bench to

2063
01:46:53,187 --> 01:46:54,587
Speaker 12: work that what's going on, but you just got to

2064
01:46:54,627 --> 01:46:56,627
Speaker 12: slot in where when you're starting, you know, if you

2065
01:46:56,747 --> 01:46:59,147
Speaker 12: feel the game out a little bit, see how things

2066
01:46:59,187 --> 01:47:01,227
Speaker 12: are flying. But once you're coming off the bench, you

2067
01:47:01,347 --> 01:47:06,307
Speaker 12: really got a job to lift the energy. Now you're

2068
01:47:06,427 --> 01:47:08,867
Speaker 12: set peace and you've got to slip in seamlessly. Does

2069
01:47:08,907 --> 01:47:09,387
Speaker 12: that make sense?

2070
01:47:09,467 --> 01:47:09,907
Speaker 6: It makes it?

2071
01:47:10,027 --> 01:47:10,307
Speaker 12: It does?

2072
01:47:10,467 --> 01:47:13,027
Speaker 2: It makes perfect sense. Yeah, No, it's great insight tonight.

2073
01:47:13,067 --> 01:47:14,387
Speaker 2: Of course, you don't have to worry about coming off

2074
01:47:14,387 --> 01:47:16,907
Speaker 2: the bench starting. Do you do you look across the

2075
01:47:17,387 --> 01:47:19,387
Speaker 2: you know, across the other team, and do you do

2076
01:47:19,507 --> 01:47:22,627
Speaker 2: you have a personal battle with the opposition hooker Tonight

2077
01:47:22,707 --> 01:47:26,067
Speaker 2: I suffer a more pretty powerful, pretty powerful ball runner.

2078
01:47:26,107 --> 01:47:29,067
Speaker 2: Do you have a personal battle with the opposition?

2079
01:47:29,107 --> 01:47:34,867
Speaker 12: Hooker's good players isn't here? Yeah, he's big boy too personal.

2080
01:47:34,947 --> 01:47:37,627
Speaker 12: I don't know if it's personal, but you never want

2081
01:47:37,667 --> 01:47:42,067
Speaker 12: to go out in a game and get one taking

2082
01:47:42,147 --> 01:47:43,707
Speaker 12: over you? Is it? What am I trying to say?

2083
01:47:43,987 --> 01:47:45,507
Speaker 12: You never want somebody to get one over you?

2084
01:47:45,707 --> 01:47:48,067
Speaker 14: Yep, especially if he's your opposition.

2085
01:47:48,827 --> 01:47:51,027
Speaker 12: So personal, I'm not too sure. You know, like stuff

2086
01:47:51,027 --> 01:47:53,147
Speaker 12: as a god dude, may you know mind him at all?

2087
01:47:54,387 --> 01:47:56,707
Speaker 12: But you know, when it comes to like I said,

2088
01:47:56,747 --> 01:47:58,787
Speaker 12: you never want your opposition to get one over this.

2089
01:47:59,587 --> 01:48:01,027
Speaker 12: You know, you get out, You get out there and

2090
01:48:01,107 --> 01:48:03,067
Speaker 12: do everything you can to make sure that doesn't happen.

2091
01:48:03,907 --> 01:48:06,267
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's still plenty of time left this season.

2092
01:48:06,387 --> 01:48:09,467
Speaker 2: Do you feel as though it'll just take one performance perhaps,

2093
01:48:10,027 --> 01:48:11,987
Speaker 2: or maybe that consistency of a couple of wins in

2094
01:48:12,067 --> 01:48:14,467
Speaker 2: a row to spring board yourselves back to where you

2095
01:48:14,587 --> 01:48:16,707
Speaker 2: really want to be as you look to defend your title.

2096
01:48:17,467 --> 01:48:19,307
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think seriously made If we can get this

2097
01:48:19,427 --> 01:48:23,227
Speaker 12: one on tomorrow, then you know the positivity and the

2098
01:48:23,387 --> 01:48:27,267
Speaker 12: energy are really listing Just for the confidence, I think,

2099
01:48:28,747 --> 01:48:32,347
Speaker 12: not that we lack in confidence, but you know, winning

2100
01:48:32,507 --> 01:48:34,667
Speaker 12: is contagious and if you can get one or two

2101
01:48:34,707 --> 01:48:36,627
Speaker 12: under your belt then things just have a flowing affair

2102
01:48:36,667 --> 01:48:38,227
Speaker 12: from that. So made if we can get this one

2103
01:48:38,267 --> 01:48:39,827
Speaker 12: over the line tonightw it'll be huge.

2104
01:48:39,787 --> 01:48:41,667
Speaker 2: Outstanding, Hey kurk, great to get the chance to chat

2105
01:48:41,707 --> 01:48:42,987
Speaker 2: to you, mate, all the best. Great to have you

2106
01:48:43,067 --> 01:48:45,067
Speaker 2: back from injury as well, and all the best against

2107
01:48:45,067 --> 01:48:47,907
Speaker 2: the Gaines. Thank you, Brett, Thank you, Kurt, Kurt Eklin.

2108
01:48:47,947 --> 01:48:50,867
Speaker 2: There back into the two jumper tonight for the Blues

2109
01:48:50,867 --> 01:48:54,667
Speaker 2: against the Hurricanes. A very very interesting proposition, this one.

2110
01:48:55,467 --> 01:48:57,267
Speaker 2: No way really of knowing. I don't think who's going

2111
01:48:57,307 --> 01:48:59,107
Speaker 2: to win it. I see the Blues are favorites at

2112
01:48:59,147 --> 01:49:01,227
Speaker 2: the tab. That would have to be by home advantage

2113
01:49:01,267 --> 01:49:03,267
Speaker 2: only and the fact maybe they've got a couple of

2114
01:49:03,307 --> 01:49:06,707
Speaker 2: their they're more important players back the likes of to

2115
01:49:06,787 --> 01:49:08,267
Speaker 2: be Pu lot to Inbode and Barratt. But yeah, it

2116
01:49:08,267 --> 01:49:10,267
Speaker 2: Canes are a chance, especially after the way they dealt

2117
01:49:10,267 --> 01:49:14,427
Speaker 2: to the Waratars last weekend. Speaking of who this from

2118
01:49:14,467 --> 01:49:16,347
Speaker 2: a short time to go a short time ago at

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01:49:16,427 --> 01:49:17,827
Speaker 2: North Harbor Stadium.

2120
01:49:17,587 --> 01:49:20,747
Speaker 8: It's Swalli straight through the gap, Joseph Swali in space

2121
01:49:20,867 --> 01:49:22,787
Speaker 8: up to the tent. He's going to play on the inside.

2122
01:49:23,067 --> 01:49:25,627
Speaker 8: Tristan Riley, there's no one in front of him. Tristan

2123
01:49:25,747 --> 01:49:28,307
Speaker 8: Roddy's gonna run it for the try at war Tars

2124
01:49:28,467 --> 01:49:33,107
Speaker 8: are gonna go intoed. Tristan Riley gets two twelve No,

2125
01:49:33,587 --> 01:49:37,507
Speaker 8: the Warrtars leads twenty three. Got a Godsport and iHeartRadio.

2126
01:49:36,947 --> 01:49:38,747
Speaker 2: Now, I think by their own admission a week ago,

2127
01:49:38,827 --> 01:49:41,867
Speaker 2: the war Tars were very very average, particularly in the

2128
01:49:41,907 --> 01:49:44,067
Speaker 2: second half against the Hurricanes where I think the Cane's

2129
01:49:44,067 --> 01:49:48,147
Speaker 2: got thirty three unanswered points or something. The Warritars opened

2130
01:49:48,147 --> 01:49:49,827
Speaker 2: the scoring and then scored early in the second half,

2131
01:49:49,867 --> 01:49:52,147
Speaker 2: but that was it anyway. They've scored two unanswered tries

2132
01:49:52,147 --> 01:49:55,227
Speaker 2: against Mana Pacifica who had by most metrics, their best

2133
01:49:55,387 --> 01:49:59,627
Speaker 2: ever victory last weekend against the Crusaders. So again week

2134
01:49:59,707 --> 01:50:02,307
Speaker 2: to week, game to game, you just do not know

2135
01:50:03,027 --> 01:50:05,227
Speaker 2: what's going to happen in Super Rugby. You can hear

2136
01:50:05,307 --> 01:50:07,747
Speaker 2: full commentary of all all games involving the New Zealand

2137
01:50:07,827 --> 01:50:11,787
Speaker 2: sides on gold Sport and iHeartRadio right across this Super

2138
01:50:11,867 --> 01:50:15,427
Speaker 2: Rugby season just on the Cricket one twenty nine for

2139
01:50:15,627 --> 01:50:17,987
Speaker 2: three New Zealand one twenty nine for three about to

2140
01:50:18,027 --> 01:50:21,507
Speaker 2: become one thirty one for three as Tim seiferd and

2141
01:50:21,987 --> 01:50:25,227
Speaker 2: Daryl Mitchell are together. We're in the twenty fifth over

2142
01:50:25,467 --> 01:50:27,707
Speaker 2: or near the end of it, only forty two overs

2143
01:50:27,867 --> 01:50:32,587
Speaker 2: side Mount Montganuit Seiphered nineteen and Mitchell on thirteen not

2144
01:50:32,747 --> 01:50:37,187
Speaker 2: out one twenty nine for three after twenty five one

2145
01:50:37,267 --> 01:50:40,747
Speaker 2: thirty one for three after twenty five overs at Bay Oval.

2146
01:50:41,587 --> 01:50:43,987
Speaker 2: We'll change the shape of the ball from oval to

2147
01:50:44,187 --> 01:50:46,547
Speaker 2: round when we come back. Auckland f C can take

2148
01:50:46,587 --> 01:50:49,827
Speaker 2: another big step towards the Premier's plate in the A

2149
01:50:49,987 --> 01:50:52,147
Speaker 2: League Men's if they can beat the Western Sydney Wanderers

2150
01:50:52,507 --> 01:50:54,947
Speaker 2: at go Media Stadium in a few hours from now.

2151
01:50:55,107 --> 01:50:57,947
Speaker 2: Dan Hall, big part of their side, back into the

2152
01:50:57,987 --> 01:50:59,947
Speaker 2: team after a long time out with a broken ankle.

2153
01:51:00,347 --> 01:51:03,187
Speaker 2: He'll join us next here on news Talk seit b the.

2154
01:51:03,307 --> 01:51:06,827
Speaker 1: Tough questions off the turf weekends for it. It's Jason

2155
01:51:06,907 --> 01:51:11,067
Speaker 1: him and GJ. Gardner Holmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder.

2156
01:51:10,907 --> 01:51:14,147
Speaker 2: News Dogs nineteen to three ten haul out of Auckland

2157
01:51:14,227 --> 01:51:16,027
Speaker 2: f C in just a moment. But Mawna Pacifica have

2158
01:51:16,107 --> 01:51:18,667
Speaker 2: finally arrived in the rugby game after thirty minutes in

2159
01:51:18,707 --> 01:51:19,147
Speaker 2: deepended so.

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01:51:19,147 --> 01:51:21,067
Speaker 8: Well so by Tavia right top, go back to the left,

2161
01:51:21,227 --> 01:51:22,387
Speaker 8: bustling it up, Savia.

2162
01:51:22,427 --> 01:51:23,347
Speaker 2: Can you get the ball down?

2163
01:51:23,627 --> 01:51:26,147
Speaker 8: No, just shorton picking go now from side to op

2164
01:51:26,307 --> 01:51:28,627
Speaker 8: ow he's over the line type time Mowanna.

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01:51:29,987 --> 01:51:30,987
Speaker 6: They're on the board.

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01:51:30,827 --> 01:51:33,347
Speaker 8: Fourteen to five on the right hand side of the

2167
01:51:33,387 --> 01:51:36,947
Speaker 8: field and it's side to how with the trip majana.

2168
01:51:36,747 --> 01:51:40,987
Speaker 2: And converted by Patrick Palegrini, So fourteen seven. Now the

2169
01:51:41,067 --> 01:51:44,787
Speaker 2: Waratars lead Mowana pacifica with about two or three minutes

2170
01:51:44,827 --> 01:51:48,587
Speaker 2: to go in the first half there at Albany Auckland

2171
01:51:48,707 --> 01:51:52,547
Speaker 2: FC Western Sydney Wanderers this afternoon, five o'clock Go Media Stadium.

2172
01:51:53,827 --> 01:51:58,747
Speaker 7: That's the last opportunity of the contest. Auckland too strong

2173
01:52:00,107 --> 01:52:05,147
Speaker 7: in this battle of first versus second from bottom. The

2174
01:52:05,267 --> 01:52:10,907
Speaker 7: form guide respected, the league table respected, and most importantly,

2175
01:52:11,707 --> 01:52:15,107
Speaker 7: seven points clear the top the standings with just five

2176
01:52:15,187 --> 01:52:16,067
Speaker 7: matches left to play.

2177
01:52:16,307 --> 01:52:17,707
Speaker 2: Isn't he that was a week ago and went over

2178
01:52:17,787 --> 01:52:20,667
Speaker 2: Brisbane Raw this afternoon Western Sydney should provide a much

2179
01:52:21,107 --> 01:52:25,227
Speaker 2: stiffer opponent. Let's bring an Auckland FC central defender Dan Hall,

2180
01:52:25,747 --> 01:52:27,867
Speaker 2: who has recently returned to the side from a long

2181
01:52:27,947 --> 01:52:30,307
Speaker 2: stint on the sidelines with a broken ankle. Dan, great

2182
01:52:30,307 --> 01:52:31,467
Speaker 2: to have you back in the side and thanks for

2183
01:52:31,547 --> 01:52:33,947
Speaker 2: joining us on match day. How do you reflect back

2184
01:52:33,947 --> 01:52:36,707
Speaker 2: on your time out? By my maths, it was ninety

2185
01:52:36,827 --> 01:52:39,547
Speaker 2: nine days out of the side. How do you reflect

2186
01:52:39,587 --> 01:52:40,467
Speaker 2: back on that time.

2187
01:52:41,147 --> 01:52:45,507
Speaker 15: Hey, Piney. Obviously I didn't do the math, but it

2188
01:52:45,587 --> 01:52:47,787
Speaker 15: did feel like a long time, so ninety nine days

2189
01:52:47,827 --> 01:52:51,027
Speaker 15: makes sense to me. It was obviously frustrating because I

2190
01:52:51,067 --> 01:52:53,987
Speaker 15: wanted to be there helping my team, but you know,

2191
01:52:54,067 --> 01:52:56,507
Speaker 15: the boys did really well without me there, and I

2192
01:52:56,587 --> 01:52:58,307
Speaker 15: was just proud to watch on from the sideline and

2193
01:52:58,427 --> 01:53:00,227
Speaker 15: focus on my rehab to be back out on the

2194
01:53:00,267 --> 01:53:00,787
Speaker 15: pitch with him.

2195
01:53:01,227 --> 01:53:03,427
Speaker 2: How did the injury actually happen?

2196
01:53:04,987 --> 01:53:08,347
Speaker 15: Yeah, so it was actually just a incident. It was

2197
01:53:08,467 --> 01:53:12,747
Speaker 15: literally the lot final ball of training, match day minus two,

2198
01:53:12,827 --> 01:53:15,787
Speaker 15: and I've gone for a slide tackle. I do a

2199
01:53:15,827 --> 01:53:18,947
Speaker 15: lot of them usually in training, and my foot just

2200
01:53:19,027 --> 01:53:22,107
Speaker 15: got stuck in the ground and I've just gone over

2201
01:53:22,147 --> 01:53:24,827
Speaker 15: the top of my ankle and then yeah, broken fibular

2202
01:53:24,907 --> 01:53:25,747
Speaker 15: and torn ligaments.

2203
01:53:25,827 --> 01:53:26,987
Speaker 12: So not ideal.

2204
01:53:27,307 --> 01:53:31,987
Speaker 2: Not ideal. Indeed, had you suffered an injury previously in

2205
01:53:32,107 --> 01:53:34,067
Speaker 2: your career which had kept you out for that length

2206
01:53:34,107 --> 01:53:35,067
Speaker 2: of time or even longer.

2207
01:53:36,707 --> 01:53:39,427
Speaker 15: No, this was probably my most severe injury today. And

2208
01:53:39,467 --> 01:53:41,307
Speaker 15: I've had obviously a few things that have kept me

2209
01:53:41,347 --> 01:53:45,307
Speaker 15: out for a while, but for one that's during the season,

2210
01:53:45,387 --> 01:53:47,627
Speaker 15: this has definitely been the most severe for sure.

2211
01:53:48,187 --> 01:53:51,227
Speaker 2: And how were you watching? I know most most sports

2212
01:53:51,267 --> 01:53:54,147
Speaker 2: people don't like watching injured. How were you watching from

2213
01:53:54,187 --> 01:53:56,947
Speaker 2: the sidelines as you as you recovered and rehabbed.

2214
01:53:58,307 --> 01:54:02,027
Speaker 15: Yeah, it's it's obviously a different vibe when watching and playing.

2215
01:54:02,067 --> 01:54:04,267
Speaker 15: I honestly think I was more stressed just watching ON

2216
01:54:04,427 --> 01:54:07,827
Speaker 15: than playing. I feel like when you're when you're actually playing,

2217
01:54:07,947 --> 01:54:11,107
Speaker 15: you know, it's you, just you're in the moment, much

2218
01:54:11,147 --> 01:54:13,107
Speaker 15: more than watching on the sideline, where you know you

2219
01:54:13,507 --> 01:54:15,507
Speaker 15: ride every tackle when you're watching and stuff like that.

2220
01:54:15,627 --> 01:54:17,547
Speaker 15: So it was stressful times watching ON for sure.

2221
01:54:18,027 --> 01:54:20,827
Speaker 2: So you came back in after all that time away,

2222
01:54:20,907 --> 01:54:23,187
Speaker 2: you could have been forgiven for being a bit short

2223
01:54:23,227 --> 01:54:26,027
Speaker 2: of match fitness, But you've played ninety minutes and both

2224
01:54:26,067 --> 01:54:29,827
Speaker 2: of the games since your return, So how are you

2225
01:54:29,907 --> 01:54:32,507
Speaker 2: able to keep your your aerobic fitness and your match

2226
01:54:32,547 --> 01:54:33,747
Speaker 2: fitness up while you were out?

2227
01:54:35,587 --> 01:54:35,787
Speaker 12: Yeah?

2228
01:54:37,267 --> 01:54:42,027
Speaker 15: Obviously it wasn't wasn't it wasn't easy, but credit to

2229
01:54:42,147 --> 01:54:45,987
Speaker 15: credit to the physio teams and the people doing my rehab.

2230
01:54:46,987 --> 01:54:48,827
Speaker 15: I guess I spent the last three months I was

2231
01:54:48,907 --> 01:54:50,747
Speaker 15: in the gym and then on the assault bike. I've

2232
01:54:50,827 --> 01:54:53,707
Speaker 15: became quite familiar with the assault bike every day, so

2233
01:54:55,307 --> 01:54:57,667
Speaker 15: you know they've done well. Even though I couldn't physically

2234
01:54:57,787 --> 01:54:59,947
Speaker 15: run and stay fit that way, there was other ways

2235
01:54:59,987 --> 01:55:02,347
Speaker 15: to try and keep me fit, and you know, I

2236
01:55:02,427 --> 01:55:04,827
Speaker 15: was just grateful that I somehow got through the first ninety.

2237
01:55:04,827 --> 01:55:07,067
Speaker 15: And then once you get through that first ninety, then

2238
01:55:07,147 --> 01:55:07,947
Speaker 15: you know you're good to go.

2239
01:55:08,627 --> 01:55:10,907
Speaker 2: Yeah, that first came back, it was ironically enough against

2240
01:55:10,907 --> 01:55:12,867
Speaker 2: your former side, the Mariners. I think you said to

2241
01:55:12,907 --> 01:55:15,147
Speaker 2: me afterward, John, he's supposed to play an hour, but

2242
01:55:15,507 --> 01:55:16,787
Speaker 2: I mean, were you're blowing near the end of But

2243
01:55:16,827 --> 01:55:19,227
Speaker 2: how are you feeling after the ninety? The first ninety

2244
01:55:19,267 --> 01:55:19,787
Speaker 2: minutes back?

2245
01:55:20,907 --> 01:55:23,867
Speaker 6: Yeah, man, it was pretty funny.

2246
01:55:23,947 --> 01:55:26,427
Speaker 15: I mean I remember looking up thinking like, I don't

2247
01:55:26,427 --> 01:55:28,107
Speaker 15: know how much longer I got, and it was literally

2248
01:55:28,187 --> 01:55:32,627
Speaker 15: the fifty third minutes. So I think just a lot

2249
01:55:32,707 --> 01:55:36,347
Speaker 15: of I think, you know, I think for my family

2250
01:55:36,467 --> 01:55:38,307
Speaker 15: was sending me their best wishes and prayers, So I

2251
01:55:38,347 --> 01:55:40,707
Speaker 15: think that's what got me through, to be honest, fantastic.

2252
01:55:40,867 --> 01:55:42,707
Speaker 2: Well, you're back in there now. Last time out to

2253
01:55:42,827 --> 01:55:46,107
Speaker 2: miliwin away at Brisbane. That's the first clean sheet the

2254
01:55:46,427 --> 01:55:49,947
Speaker 2: team has kept for the last four games. How pleasing

2255
01:55:50,067 --> 01:55:51,547
Speaker 2: was it to, you know, to keep the clean sheet

2256
01:55:51,587 --> 01:55:53,427
Speaker 2: against Brisbane and come away with the three points.

2257
01:55:54,707 --> 01:55:54,907
Speaker 12: Yeah?

2258
01:55:56,027 --> 01:55:58,827
Speaker 15: Obviously, you know, at the start of the season we

2259
01:55:58,947 --> 01:56:03,427
Speaker 15: focused on maintaining clean sheets and we were very strong defensively.

2260
01:56:03,947 --> 01:56:06,707
Speaker 15: I think we've still been quite strong defensively, just eating

2261
01:56:07,227 --> 01:56:10,427
Speaker 15: a few unfortunate goals here and there. But as I said,

2262
01:56:10,947 --> 01:56:12,827
Speaker 15: you know, the coaches please with us getting back on

2263
01:56:12,907 --> 01:56:16,547
Speaker 15: that clean sheet mentality and hopefully we continue that come

2264
01:56:16,627 --> 01:56:17,107
Speaker 15: the weekend.

2265
01:56:17,587 --> 01:56:20,467
Speaker 2: You came into the side, I mean everybody's new, right,

2266
01:56:21,187 --> 01:56:24,587
Speaker 2: So you came into a defensive unit that you were

2267
01:56:24,587 --> 01:56:28,267
Speaker 2: pretty unfamiliar with in terms of personnel, but quickly established

2268
01:56:28,347 --> 01:56:31,587
Speaker 2: a really solid defensive unit. I mean, all those clean

2269
01:56:31,667 --> 01:56:33,907
Speaker 2: sheets in a row to start the season. How did

2270
01:56:33,947 --> 01:56:34,747
Speaker 2: that all come about?

2271
01:56:37,147 --> 01:56:37,347
Speaker 12: Yeah?

2272
01:56:37,627 --> 01:56:40,627
Speaker 15: I think with any team, I think it's important that

2273
01:56:40,747 --> 01:56:43,987
Speaker 15: you build good connections off the pitch and then as

2274
01:56:43,987 --> 01:56:47,267
Speaker 15: a result, you know, you see the good results on

2275
01:56:47,387 --> 01:56:52,547
Speaker 15: the pitch. But obviously credit to the scouting team from Auckland.

2276
01:56:52,547 --> 01:56:56,027
Speaker 15: I see they've put together a very strong team and

2277
01:56:56,227 --> 01:56:59,747
Speaker 15: talented players and good people as well. So whoever's in

2278
01:56:59,827 --> 01:57:02,187
Speaker 15: that role, playing center back or playing left back, right back,

2279
01:57:02,227 --> 01:57:03,707
Speaker 15: then you know they put do a job for the team.

2280
01:57:03,747 --> 01:57:07,027
Speaker 15: And obviously when you have Alex Tolson behind you, if

2281
01:57:07,027 --> 01:57:09,467
Speaker 15: you do make a mistake, there's a good likelihood that

2282
01:57:09,467 --> 01:57:11,587
Speaker 15: he'll bail you out, so credit to him as well.

2283
01:57:12,027 --> 01:57:15,107
Speaker 2: So your next assignment Western Sydney this afternoon. They're the

2284
01:57:15,227 --> 01:57:19,267
Speaker 2: league's leading goal scorers. So how big a defensive challenge

2285
01:57:19,387 --> 01:57:21,707
Speaker 2: are you expecting from the Wanderers this afternoon?

2286
01:57:23,347 --> 01:57:28,027
Speaker 15: Yeah, there are credits. They are a very good side. Obviously,

2287
01:57:28,307 --> 01:57:30,827
Speaker 15: they score lots and lots of goals. So I guess

2288
01:57:30,987 --> 01:57:32,587
Speaker 15: for a defend there, it's my job to try and

2289
01:57:32,627 --> 01:57:35,587
Speaker 15: prevent that today. And you know, I think we're just

2290
01:57:35,747 --> 01:57:39,067
Speaker 15: trying and focus on trusting the process and what we've

2291
01:57:39,107 --> 01:57:42,147
Speaker 15: done throughout the week in practice to try and you know,

2292
01:57:42,347 --> 01:57:45,107
Speaker 15: keep them quiet is hopefully what we'll do. And I

2293
01:57:45,147 --> 01:57:46,827
Speaker 15: guess at the end of the ninety we'll see who

2294
01:57:46,907 --> 01:57:47,627
Speaker 15: comes out on top.

2295
01:57:47,867 --> 01:57:50,267
Speaker 2: I guess the feature of their side two. Dan Is,

2296
01:57:50,307 --> 01:57:51,827
Speaker 2: they've got a number of three. You know, it's not

2297
01:57:51,947 --> 01:57:55,187
Speaker 2: just one guy's getting all their goals. Nicholas Milanovitch has

2298
01:57:55,227 --> 01:57:58,227
Speaker 2: got ten, but Bojid arkry of seven, Zac Sapsford seven,

2299
01:57:58,667 --> 01:58:02,307
Speaker 2: Mark Zentenson six, Brandon Morello current SOCCERU with six. How

2300
01:58:02,387 --> 01:58:04,267
Speaker 2: much more challenging does it make it when you're not

2301
01:58:04,387 --> 01:58:06,747
Speaker 2: just focusing on on shutting down one guy?

2302
01:58:08,587 --> 01:58:09,307
Speaker 12: Yeah, exactly.

2303
01:58:09,907 --> 01:58:13,787
Speaker 15: When obviously a quality side like the Wonderers have goals

2304
01:58:13,867 --> 01:58:17,787
Speaker 15: coming in from every way, it's obviously quite a challenge.

2305
01:58:17,827 --> 01:58:22,027
Speaker 15: But you know, I think we're quite sound defensively as well,

2306
01:58:22,147 --> 01:58:24,267
Speaker 15: So I think as a defender, you know, you look

2307
01:58:24,307 --> 01:58:27,547
Speaker 15: forward to these games where you know there's multiple threats

2308
01:58:27,587 --> 01:58:30,147
Speaker 15: coming in at once. So I'm excited to play and

2309
01:58:30,187 --> 01:58:30,907
Speaker 15: I'll see how I go.

2310
01:58:31,827 --> 01:58:35,067
Speaker 2: So depending on how things go over the next couple

2311
01:58:35,147 --> 01:58:38,507
Speaker 2: of weeks, it's possible that you could secure the Premier's

2312
01:58:38,547 --> 01:58:41,507
Speaker 2: plate as early as next weekend. This relies on a

2313
01:58:41,627 --> 01:58:44,107
Speaker 2: few things happening, you guys, winning other teams, not that

2314
01:58:44,227 --> 01:58:46,387
Speaker 2: sort of thing. Do you look at the table, do

2315
01:58:46,467 --> 01:58:49,147
Speaker 2: you do the maths? Are you that kind kind of play?

2316
01:58:49,307 --> 01:58:52,067
Speaker 2: You got that kind of footballer Piiney.

2317
01:58:52,147 --> 01:58:55,667
Speaker 15: Look, I've never been very good at math, so I

2318
01:58:55,787 --> 01:58:58,507
Speaker 15: feel like even if I wanted to do the math,

2319
01:58:58,547 --> 01:59:00,187
Speaker 15: I wouldn't be able to work it out in my head,

2320
01:59:00,267 --> 01:59:01,907
Speaker 15: or I'll be here till the end of the season

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Speaker 15: trying to figure out if we've won or not. So

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Speaker 15: that being said, you know, it's been quite common throughout

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Speaker 15: the team that we all stay humble and we just

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Speaker 15: look at it each week by week and hopefully, you

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Speaker 15: know we're trusting the process by building results each week,

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Speaker 15: we'll get their awards by the end of the season.

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Speaker 2: Well, you you come in with championship pedigree. Of course,

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Speaker 2: you went back to back A league championships with the

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Speaker 2: Mariners last two seasons. Last season, you want a treble

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Speaker 2: of trophies? Do you since in this Auckland FC team

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01:59:31,387 --> 01:59:34,587
Speaker 2: some similar qualities to the Mariners teams that you were

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Speaker 2: a part of in the last couple of seasons.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 15: I think, you know, having a winning mentality and just

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Speaker 15: being very competitive in training translates a lot to the games.

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Speaker 15: And obviously with my former side and current side, you

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Speaker 15: know there's good people around you that push you each

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Speaker 15: week and each day. So I think that's just the

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Speaker 15: recipe for success, and it's working so far.

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Speaker 2: Certainly is. And you are still waiting for your first

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01:59:58,347 --> 02:00:00,987
Speaker 2: Auckland FC goal. I know you've been out for a while,

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Speaker 2: you know that, so that hasn't helped. But has that

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Speaker 2: been a topic of conversation at or Nando's got one friend,

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02:00:06,627 --> 02:00:09,707
Speaker 2: he's got one Heroki? You know, has it been talked

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Speaker 2: about at all that you're still to open your account?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well I'm glad.

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Speaker 15: I think you're the first one to mention it because

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Speaker 15: I've been, to be fair Finney, I've been thinking about it.

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Speaker 15: I mean, this Nando guy that plays next to me

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Speaker 15: is almost our leading golf scorer, so it's not making

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Speaker 15: me look very good. So I think I'll have to

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Speaker 15: work out something because I've got enough. I've got lots

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02:00:30,227 --> 02:00:31,907
Speaker 15: and lots of celebrations to pull out when I do

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02:00:32,067 --> 02:00:32,747
Speaker 15: finally get one.

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Speaker 4: So you'll have to stay tuned.

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Speaker 2: I will stay tuned. I'll hopefully it will happen this

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Speaker 2: afternoon or certainly at a very important time. Dan, such

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Speaker 2: a pleasure to catch up. Awesome to have you back

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Speaker 2: out there with Auckland FC for the run towards the finals.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for the chat mate, and all the best against

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Speaker 2: the Wanderers this afternoon.

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Speaker 15: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: Take care now you take care to Dan Hall. What

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Speaker 2: a character center back for Auckland. The FC Western Sydney

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Speaker 2: Wanderers are their opponent this afternoon, five o'clock kickoff at

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Speaker 2: Go Media Stadium in Auckland, nine and a half to three.

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Speaker 2: News Talks it'd be when it's down to the line,

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Speaker 2: you may do call.

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Speaker 1: Eighty Weekend Sport with Jason Hine News Talk ZMB.

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Speaker 2: Coming up six away from three back to Albany. We

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Speaker 2: go on gold Sport.

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Speaker 17: Warritas trying to get the shunt on front row, goes

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Speaker 17: down Monkey Glease and takes it off the back short

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Speaker 17: side right.

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Speaker 8: Crichton floats the ball over the top to Callaway right

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Speaker 8: head corner pass try nineteen seven.

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Speaker 17: They go off check the coum be negaging to go

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Speaker 17: into the break, leading three tries to one. Andrew Callaway

2379
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Speaker 17: scores in the right corner and.

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Speaker 2: Was converted to half time. At Albany and the Waratars

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Speaker 2: twenty one seven ahead of Mowana Pacifica twenty one points

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Speaker 2: to seven in the early game. You can catch the

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02:01:44,907 --> 02:01:48,427
Speaker 2: second half on gold Sport and iHeartRadio to the cricket

2384
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Speaker 2: in Mount Woganui, where New Zealand are into the twenty

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Speaker 2: ninth of forty two overs, having consented the bat in

2386
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Speaker 2: the third and final ODII against Pakistan one forty five

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Speaker 2: for three. Tim Cipher back in the side to run

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02:01:58,787 --> 02:02:01,547
Speaker 2: a ball twenty five and Dalril Mitchell there on twenty one,

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Speaker 2: but slower Darrin Mitchell twenty one not out of thirty

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02:02:04,987 --> 02:02:09,147
Speaker 2: nine balls, one forty five for three. As we approach

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Speaker 2: the end of the twenty ninth over, that is the

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Speaker 2: end of weekend sport for today. We're back tomorrow. Just

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Speaker 2: reminding you our guest after midday tomorrow is David Coulthard

2394
02:02:19,027 --> 02:02:22,707
Speaker 2: the Formula One Royal team. The third and final practice

2395
02:02:22,747 --> 02:02:25,067
Speaker 2: is about to start in Japan, followed by qualifying bo

2396
02:02:25,307 --> 02:02:27,027
Speaker 2: so by the time we chat to David tomorrow will

2397
02:02:27,107 --> 02:02:30,107
Speaker 2: know where Liam Lawson is in relation to for staff

2398
02:02:30,147 --> 02:02:33,147
Speaker 2: and Sonoda and others. Lots of other things to cover

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Speaker 2: off on the show tomorrow as well, including football and rugby.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for listening in some beverage after three any McDonald

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Speaker 2: superb job producing what's our exit song? Today?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: Piney A lot of chat this week about tariff's. I

2404
02:02:46,587 --> 02:02:49,107
Speaker 9: don't know what a tariff is actually, can you are

2405
02:02:49,107 --> 02:02:50,067
Speaker 9: you able to enlighten me.

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02:02:50,227 --> 02:02:53,027
Speaker 2: A look, I just know that whenever you talk about them,

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Speaker 2: it's usually negative.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: I don't know what they are. I know they're sort

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02:02:55,987 --> 02:03:00,027
Speaker 9: of money related. So I've gone for dia straits money

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02:03:00,107 --> 02:03:03,547
Speaker 9: for nothing. To stay on theme, I think of this

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Speaker 9: week again. If anyone wants to explain to me what's

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Speaker 9: going on, Actually, I probably won't listen.

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Speaker 6: It sounds boring.

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02:03:09,467 --> 02:03:15,427
Speaker 2: Your grasp of geopolitics and dump and such like is

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02:03:15,587 --> 02:03:19,027
Speaker 2: just astounding. Thanks mate, money for nothing of us to

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02:03:19,067 --> 02:03:20,787
Speaker 2: take us out. We'll see them Mark midday buff.

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Speaker 4: Now that ain't working.

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02:03:30,067 --> 02:03:30,987
Speaker 5: That's the way you're doing.

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02:03:32,267 --> 02:03:34,587
Speaker 4: You've play a guitar on MTV.

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02:03:35,787 --> 02:03:40,507
Speaker 5: That ain't working. That's and do it. Money born nothing

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02:03:40,667 --> 02:03:55,427
Speaker 5: and your chicks for breathing money for nothing, chicks, look

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02:03:55,467 --> 02:03:56,187
Speaker 5: at that, look at that.

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Speaker 1: Ships money for more from Weekends Sport with Jason Fine.

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Speaker 1: Listen live to news talks at B Weekends from midday,

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