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Speaker 2: Hell are you great New Zealand? And welcome to Matt

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Speaker 2: and Tyler Full Show Podcast number what was it?

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Speaker 3: One? Three to two, one hundred.

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Speaker 2: And thirty two of these bad Boys for Monday, the

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Speaker 2: twenty sixth of May twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: Great chat.

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Speaker 2: We're in the dangerous wars of women on MOE, woman

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Speaker 2: on woman misogyny and look, that was very that was

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Speaker 2: interesting and we I think we traversed those waters, okay,

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Speaker 3: Which was good.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, and then we went deep into traffic chat

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Speaker 2: which actually went down a escalator chat and there were

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Speaker 2: then I thought that chat about the family walking the

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Speaker 2: Give me taste to Keevy all right, then, okay, love

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the leak issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News.

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Speaker 3: Talk said me, good afternoon to you. Welcome into the

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Speaker 3: show Monday afternoon. I hope you're doing well if you're

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Speaker 3: listening in the country, Get amen.

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Speaker 2: Gheta, Tyler, get everyone.

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Speaker 3: So my weekend was going pretty pretty good, mate, until

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Speaker 3: you decided to send what was quite a horrific picture

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Speaker 3: to the group chats. I don't know why you decided

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, so the picture that you're talking about, I

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, See well that picture, Tyler, for context, was taken

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Speaker 2: when I first started doing this radio show. And you

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Speaker 2: notice the massive motor I've got on me and how

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Speaker 2: many chins I'm running there. So I've asked my partner

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Speaker 2: she sent me that picture of me asleep and looking

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Speaker 2: rotund and pig like, and I just thought, it's it

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Speaker 2: had since you started working with me.

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Speaker 3: Look at what ZB has done to you, mate, You're

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Speaker 2: Being on used to ZB is so good for your health.

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Speaker 3: On fifteen kilo. Well done, mate, look.

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Speaker 2: At that tometime on that picture. So I thoroughly recommend

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Speaker 2: this as a health part of your health routine is

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Speaker 2: with your friends. I mean, even though you guys clearly

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Speaker 2: receive it, But but then you can, then you can

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Speaker 3: Your journey the self fat shaming. You do you put

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Speaker 2: I think you've got to do it really like so

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Speaker 2: that that's quite a stark difference. I think you can't

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Speaker 2: got to ask your lovely partner as I do, to

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Speaker 3: Now, yeah, well done mate, Absolutely we're going to try

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Speaker 2: I am ashamed, yep, but that's not me.

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Speaker 2: I'll put it on Matt eathensed on my Instagram.

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Speaker 3: after three o'clock. You may have seen this story written

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Speaker 3: great story. Traveling with children is the topic, but the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, have you had an amazing family holiday and adventure?

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Speaker 2: when you're doing these epic traveler adventures and have more fun.

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Speaker 3: It's a lot of admin, isn't it. That's after three o'clock.

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Speaker 3: After two o'clock, the road le kiwis can't seem to follow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But the people that just get in there and

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Speaker 3: That is up to two o'clock is right now. This

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Speaker 3: Her name is Carolyn mars So. She was highly critical

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Speaker 3: of Nicola Willis's choice of dress during the budget total disrespect.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I believe if anyone should say anything they

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Speaker 2: it definitely feels like hassling a female politician about what

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Speaker 2: didn't notice or even care what Nicola Willis was wearing

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Speaker 2: during her budget speech. And it reminds me, as I

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Speaker 2: say to you before. Tyler of a POSTO Saw and

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Speaker 2: a Woman wrote, it's so unfair. Men can wear the

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Speaker 2: And the first comment underneath this post was from a

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Speaker 2: it as bad as normal misogyny? No man be his

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Speaker 2: normal misogyny would be man or woman misogyny or the

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Speaker 2: most talked about misogyny. I mean, we're always being told

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Speaker 2: politicians wear? Do they should? They have a different standard

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that is the big question. Give us a ring.

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Speaker 2: One hundred eighty ten eighty should be a nicely dangerous chat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love to get into this with you. Oh,

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Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Where do you sit on

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Speaker 3: this one? Nine two nine? If you want to send

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Speaker 3: a text message, it is thirteen past one. Back for

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used

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Speaker 3: Be very good afternoon. It is sixteen past one.

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Speaker 2: Hey and Tyler, look and look. I love how the

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Speaker 2: text machine on nine two nine two keeps us honest.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: It's as this person said, it's woman and women.

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Speaker 2: The plaral of woman is women, not woman.

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Speaker 3: I didn't want to say anything, Matt, but I'm glad

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Speaker 2: Greetings Matt and Tyler, Greetings, men, who is this amazing

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Speaker 2: woman you keep talking about? Don't you mean women is

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Speaker 2: a different pronunciation? Let me educate you both. Woman is

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Speaker 3: Thank you, D. Thanks dam glad we cleared that up

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Speaker 3: before we carry it all important, it's important. Undred and

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Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty. We are talking about misogyny, women being

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Speaker 2: In this case it was a woman, yeah, argument, No,

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Speaker 2: it was women. Therese two women, women being misogynistic against

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Speaker 3: But no, really keen to chat with you on this

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Speaker 3: One is Andrea Vance's column, right, which was very.

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Speaker 2: Full on girl boss this c word that girl math this,

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Speaker 2: which would be considered pretty misogynistic if and it was

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Speaker 2: it was she was accused of that, but definitely if

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Speaker 2: it was a man saying that about a woman, there

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Speaker 2: would be problems.

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Speaker 3: Certainly would be and then of course.

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Speaker 2: We've got this fashion situation here that we were talking

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Speaker 2: about before, criticism of what Willis was wearing for her

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Speaker 2: he He's very good in front of the camera. The

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Speaker 2: I think Nicola Willis didn't really hear exactly what he

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Speaker 2: But she came back like this.

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Speaker 3: We're going to come back to that audio. I can't

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Speaker 7: It's one hundred percent crosses the line, and for the

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Speaker 2: Breakfast particular listeners. Well this how much are people going

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Speaker 2: Back tomorrow at six am, the mic hosking breakfast with

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoon to you. We're talking about misogyny women

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the vast majority of people have said that

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Speaker 2: I've been saying a name on Carolyn marm. She's sure

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Speaker 3: But let's go back to Sarah. Sarah, we were having

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Speaker 7: I think what we have is a group of very senior,

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Speaker 7: I find it really a sense of myself. I think,

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Speaker 2: Sarah, just to put the other side of it, and

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Speaker 2: But it does seem, you know, and there's different people

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Speaker 2: So the most charitable way you could look at these

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Speaker 9: Yes, I see that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I nicely said, Sarah, thank you very much, having

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Speaker 2: Well this Texas says, why did't the New Zealand fashion

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Speaker 2: just to quietly go and say, look, you're a very

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Speaker 2: Let's approach you and get you in some clothes and look,

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Speaker 2: if any fashion designers want to approach me and send

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he needs it and it's just say that I'll

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Railey, and then we're talking about

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Speaker 3: women on women misogyny. Two incidence is one of the

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Speaker 3: very publicized and Andrea Vant's article, but another one on

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Speaker 3: the weekend. We're a New Zealand fashion designer, she's female.

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Speaker 3: Took umbrage at what Nicola Willis was wearing on budget Day?

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Speaker 2: Is this misogyny and as woman misogyny becoming worse and

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Speaker 2: more acceptable? Is it worse than male on woman misogyny?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: This text says personally, as a bloke happily married for

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Speaker 2: years to the same woman, I wasn't looking at a

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Speaker 2: minister Willis as an object. I was, however, disappointed to

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Speaker 2: discover that she was promoting a British clothes designer instead

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Speaker 2: of taking a chance to show off Kiwi clothing. All

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Speaker 2: our ministers should take every opportunity to promote Kiwi. That's

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Speaker 2: from Tony that he was disappointed discover that she was

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Speaker 2: promoting a British clothes designer. I don't think she was

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Speaker 2: promoting anything. No, she was just wearing some clothes. She

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Speaker 2: was promoting blue. That's about as far as you could

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Speaker 2: take it, which is fair enough. And it just so

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Speaker 2: happened that that was from a UK designer. I believe

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Speaker 2: but I thought Chris Bishop, he made a social media

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Speaker 2: post in the weekend sort of ridiculing the idea that

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Speaker 2: a woman would be called up on what she's wearing,

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Speaker 2: whereas all the other men in Parliament that day no

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Speaker 2: one even thought or looked at them and asked what

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Speaker 2: nation their clothes come from. Listen to this now there's

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Speaker 2: been a lot.

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Speaker 11: Of interest from a New Zealand Herald as to what

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Speaker 11: our Minister of Finance was wearing on Budget Day, but

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Speaker 11: nobody has asked me. So here I am at Parliament

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Speaker 11: and post a budget urgency. I thought i'd run you

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Speaker 11: through what I'm wearing.

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Speaker 12: Now.

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Speaker 11: Listen this tie I actually got in France. It's a

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Speaker 11: lovely blue tie. This shirt is a classic New Zealand

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Speaker 11: three Wise Men blue shirt. The suit is from halfs

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Speaker 11: down on Lampton Key and I'm pretty sure it's a

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Speaker 11: rembrand suit of course, from the Hut Wonderful Place. This

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Speaker 11: is a New Zealand Music Month badge. Now the socks

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Speaker 11: the socks are from I'm not actually sure. I think

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Speaker 11: they might be a standard issue black h M pair

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Speaker 11: of socks.

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Speaker 3: And the shoes which need a.

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Speaker 11: Bit of a bit of a polish obviously, I think

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Speaker 11: they are from three wise men as well.

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Speaker 8: So there you have it.

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Speaker 11: That's what I'm wearing in post a budget urgency. I

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Speaker 11: know the huge amount of interest in what me and

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Speaker 11: a bunch of the other men in the National Party

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Speaker 11: are wearing, just to equalize things up with Nicola What

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Speaker 11: it's our fantastic Minister of Finance.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that is absolutely disgusting from him wearing a

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Speaker 2: French tie. Yeah, a dirty French tie. Because I was

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Speaker 2: about to go out and buy a New Zealand tie,

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Speaker 2: but then I was watching this. I was watching the

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Speaker 2: coverage of the budget and I saw Chris Bishop and

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Speaker 2: a French tie. Immediately thought, that's a French tie. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and now, boy, oh boy, I'm only buying European ties.

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Speaker 3: Well, would it kill him to wear some Norsewear socks?

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Speaker 3: I've got to say. You know, he couldn't tell whether

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Speaker 3: his socks were H and M or some other generic brand,

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Speaker 3: but Norseware. I'm wearing my Norseware. You gifted them to

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Speaker 3: me last week. Beautiful socks.

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Speaker 2: Oh, great socks and Norsewear socks.

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Speaker 3: It's feeling very warm down there, but beautiful socks, nice

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Speaker 3: and comfy.

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Speaker 2: Do we know if Nichola Willis was wearing Big Woods.

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Speaker 3: Where you get her on the show and find out.

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Speaker 2: Cheryl, welcome to the show. You've worked in the New

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Speaker 2: Zealand fashion industry, Cheryl?

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Speaker 3: Are you, Cheryl?

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Speaker 8: Cheryl?

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Speaker 3: Gotcha?

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 3: Sorry about that, Cheryl?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, sorry about that.

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Speaker 13: My guys, No, no worries at all. Hey, listen, I've

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Speaker 13: actually just come back from France a couple of days ago,

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Speaker 13: so I've missed all of this too, and but I

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Speaker 13: was absolutely discussed to hear what's been going on, and

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Speaker 13: you know, just just over the last couple of weeks,

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Speaker 13: and it's it's made me really really disappointed. And I

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Speaker 13: mean I'm disappointed in the majority of our journalists these

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Speaker 13: days anyway, but it's made me even more disappointed. But

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Speaker 13: going back to the manner of hand, as for because

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Speaker 13: of well, I was wearing something that was designed somewhere else.

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Speaker 13: I don't have a problem with that. And over the

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Speaker 13: years I have worked with people who are TV presenters,

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Speaker 13: et cetera, et cetera, and in the past they have

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Speaker 13: been off of fabulous clothing to wear as presenters by

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Speaker 13: designers themselves, and it's been picked up and been used

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Speaker 13: as a promotional thing. So if this girl woman whoever

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Speaker 13: she is, a so called designer, was you know it

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Speaker 13: did not approve of Nick. We're wearing something that came

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Speaker 13: from a British designer. Maybe she should just send her

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Speaker 13: an email and say, hey, next time, if you're interested,

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Speaker 13: come and have a look at what I've got and

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Speaker 13: I will actually lend you a PAS of my wear

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Speaker 13: so that you can promote that. You know, that's a

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Speaker 13: win one for both. But I had to agree with

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Speaker 13: everything that Sarah had to say before. I was just

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Speaker 13: absolutely blown away by the standard and the level that

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Speaker 13: women are coming to in this country.

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Speaker 5: It's disgusting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's normally the way you go about it, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: If you want to want to promote your product, then

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Speaker 2: in the fashion world then you you know, look at

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Speaker 2: the met Gala or Oscars or whatever it is, or

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Speaker 2: just people on Instagram influences. You give them something to

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Speaker 2: wear and then they'll be like, oh, I'll wear it.

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Speaker 2: That's fine. It's proberly going public and saying it is.

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Speaker 2: I think it was described as a total disrespect. I mean, boy,

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Speaker 2: if that's total disrespect, that there's a there's a low

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Speaker 2: bar or total disrespect is to just choose to wear,

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Speaker 2: to choose to wear some clothes that you've found in

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Speaker 2: the shop and like and have decided to wear a

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Speaker 2: total disrespect. That seems like a big call to me.

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Speaker 2: Shrem Yeah.

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Speaker 13: Well, the unfortunate thing is we don have a bit

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Speaker 13: of a problem with the test targ women with it

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Speaker 13: in Parliament. I've noticed, and the lowering of the sceneards

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Speaker 13: and especially among some of some of the women. I've

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Speaker 13: been really disappointed in the standard of dress. But then,

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Speaker 13: you know, it's the old it's the old story. You know,

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Speaker 13: you'll have one side at the table that's say, but

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Speaker 13: we have the right to wear what we want to wear,

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Speaker 13: and and that should really apply to nickle Willis too.

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Speaker 13: You know, it should be one rule for one lot

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Speaker 13: and one rule for another.

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Speaker 2: What about we just take this completely off the table

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Speaker 2: and have some boiler suits that everyone in Parliament wears

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Speaker 2: when they go into the chamber. They're all exactly the same.

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Speaker 2: They're unisex, they're just a head to toe boiler or

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Speaker 2: some kind of has matt suit and they just go

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Speaker 2: in there and then just take the whole thing right

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Speaker 2: off the table. Would you support that Sheryl.

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Speaker 13: I would imagine somebody would complain about who made the boilers,

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Speaker 13: they had a powerf attached to them, or whether they

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Speaker 13: actually had a Maori motif on one sleeve, or you know,

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Speaker 13: I don't think we're leveling. I just were just like

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Speaker 13: women in general, especially these journalists who call themselves journalists,

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Speaker 13: to just sort of take a deep breath and think

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Speaker 13: about what they're doing. You know, they're just ruining our

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Speaker 13: reputation as good women in New Zealand. And we have

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Speaker 13: fabula woman across the port from everywhere, from from our

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Speaker 13: from our working mums right through to those who are

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Speaker 13: leading our government.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, nicely said Cheryl, thank you very much for

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Speaker 3: having a chat with us.

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Speaker 2: Well, this textas says, I'm very importantly listening to what

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Speaker 2: Chris press at pat to say. Does Chris not wear

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Speaker 2: undis because he decide everything else he was wearing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he mentioned the socks, saying just.

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Speaker 2: From that, what's mail on male misogyny, Missandree, I'm going

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Speaker 2: to shame him for commando.

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Speaker 3: And the sounds like he's a bold move for a minister.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like he's going to commando in the house.

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Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to

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Speaker 3: call love to hear from you. It is sixteen to two.

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Speaker 1: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

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Speaker 1: along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News Talk.

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Speaker 3: Said, be good afternoon. It is fourteen to two. Some

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Speaker 3: great texts coming through on nine two nine two. This

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Speaker 3: one said from Scott. Guys, this doesn't matter. Her job

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Speaker 3: is to deliver a budget, not what she is wearing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, And this Texas says, at least she didn't

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Speaker 2: nick it. I don't know what that means. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if Nikola, well, I'm pretty sure she would have

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Speaker 2: paid for it.

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Speaker 3: She sent me.

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Speaker 2: What Greg your thoughts on this issue?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I think that it's a bit pretty unprofessional that

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Speaker 14: he come out and do things like especially saying about

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Speaker 14: what they're were wearing. When was the last time they

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Speaker 14: came out and commented on what a guy was wearing.

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Speaker 14: I think the last thing I remember where they commented

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Speaker 14: on what a guy was wearing was talking Morgan, and

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Speaker 14: that was those eighty dollars.

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Speaker 3: Boxers, right, that's right, Yeah, that seems that seemed crazy.

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Speaker 2: That seemed crazy back then. How much he was spending

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Speaker 2: on boxer shorts. But now, boy boy, I bought some

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Speaker 2: Calvin Klein the other day and.

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Speaker 3: Very expensive good undies.

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Speaker 15: The taxpayers money.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, No I did not. Yeah, I mean I

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Speaker 2: guess the thing with it, as us saying before though,

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Speaker 2: men primarily, and there's differences across people, but men primarily

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Speaker 2: don't really care. Like I didn't. I don't look at

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Speaker 2: what Christopher Luxeen's wearing and go I'll go and buy that. No,

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Speaker 2: you can't, it's not you're not really selling to other

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Speaker 2: men with what they're wearing. Although that's not true. I

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Speaker 2: saw Aaron Smith wearing a hat once in a post

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Speaker 2: show interview after the Highlanders, and I was immediately online

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Speaker 2: buying that cap.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're a weirdo when it comes to caps.

652
00:33:33,573 --> 00:33:34,533
Speaker 2: It was a cool Spats cap.

653
00:33:34,533 --> 00:33:36,493
Speaker 3: You've got about three hundred and fifty caps, so that's

654
00:33:36,533 --> 00:33:39,693
Speaker 3: no surprise. Yeah, but yeah, I mean to your point, generally,

655
00:33:39,773 --> 00:33:42,733
Speaker 3: I think I own two pairs of trousers. In fact,

656
00:33:42,813 --> 00:33:44,893
Speaker 3: I know I own two pairs of trousers, and not

657
00:33:44,973 --> 00:33:47,733
Speaker 3: once have you looked over you could off and say,

658
00:33:48,053 --> 00:33:49,653
Speaker 3: what the hell are you doing? You've worn those pair

659
00:33:49,693 --> 00:33:51,893
Speaker 3: of pants two weeks in a row. Yeah, you just

660
00:33:51,933 --> 00:33:55,893
Speaker 3: don't care, right, No, No, we don't.

661
00:33:56,573 --> 00:33:58,893
Speaker 14: Care about that. They care about getting on with business,

662
00:33:59,013 --> 00:34:01,733
Speaker 14: getting down and getting the job done, like what you're

663
00:34:01,733 --> 00:34:02,973
Speaker 14: wearing the second.

664
00:34:03,693 --> 00:34:03,933
Speaker 2: Yeah.

665
00:34:04,413 --> 00:34:07,613
Speaker 14: I also think that the scene that smells a bit

666
00:34:07,653 --> 00:34:10,413
Speaker 14: political because it seems all these people that are making

667
00:34:10,453 --> 00:34:13,212
Speaker 14: these comments, like you know, using the sea word and

668
00:34:13,253 --> 00:34:17,413
Speaker 14: stuff to describe National Party people. It's all it seems

669
00:34:17,453 --> 00:34:20,053
Speaker 14: like it's all political. But you don't see any of

670
00:34:20,093 --> 00:34:21,293
Speaker 14: this coming from the right.

671
00:34:21,173 --> 00:34:21,652
Speaker 16: To the left.

672
00:34:21,693 --> 00:34:23,133
Speaker 17: It's all from the left to the right.

673
00:34:23,973 --> 00:34:27,933
Speaker 14: And when it's woman, it always seems like it's character destruction.

674
00:34:29,493 --> 00:34:30,853
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, thank you for your call.

675
00:34:30,933 --> 00:34:33,453
Speaker 3: Greg Yep nicely said. Right, we're going to play some messages,

676
00:34:33,493 --> 00:34:35,253
Speaker 3: but coming up after the break, we're going to have

677
00:34:35,293 --> 00:34:38,773
Speaker 3: a chat to Die. She's also worked in the fashion industry,

678
00:34:38,813 --> 00:34:41,293
Speaker 3: so this is going to be interesting. It is eleven

679
00:34:41,373 --> 00:34:43,172
Speaker 3: to two. You're listening to Matt and Tyler.

680
00:34:44,213 --> 00:34:47,772
Speaker 1: Matt Heath, Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred

681
00:34:47,813 --> 00:34:51,853
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons.

682
00:34:51,333 --> 00:34:55,493
Speaker 3: News TALKSB, News TALKSB. It is eight to two, Die,

683
00:34:55,733 --> 00:34:57,973
Speaker 3: you have also worked in the fashion industry.

684
00:34:58,933 --> 00:34:59,253
Speaker 18: I have.

685
00:34:59,853 --> 00:35:02,613
Speaker 9: I lived in Australia for thirty five years and worked

686
00:35:02,693 --> 00:35:08,293
Speaker 9: constantly through in the fashion industry, and I'm right behind

687
00:35:08,493 --> 00:35:12,893
Speaker 9: what Sarah and Cheryl have been saying. And I think

688
00:35:13,173 --> 00:35:17,533
Speaker 9: full marks for Nichola Willis because it's really important that

689
00:35:17,733 --> 00:35:22,013
Speaker 9: she choose what she wants to wear that suits her.

690
00:35:22,973 --> 00:35:25,453
Speaker 9: And there's a lot of top designers over in Australia

691
00:35:25,533 --> 00:35:29,173
Speaker 9: they don't always wear their own brand. And the fact

692
00:35:29,293 --> 00:35:34,212
Speaker 9: is that in Nichola Willis's position, I am more important,

693
00:35:34,773 --> 00:35:39,373
Speaker 9: more impressed, and it's more important to me with her

694
00:35:39,533 --> 00:35:44,053
Speaker 9: role in how she delivers, and you know, how she performs,

695
00:35:44,173 --> 00:35:47,893
Speaker 9: and she's a professional and I have so much admiration

696
00:35:48,013 --> 00:35:52,453
Speaker 9: and respect for her. She's beautifully presented, and I think

697
00:35:52,693 --> 00:35:58,573
Speaker 9: these women who it is misogynist and she's not a maniquin.

698
00:35:59,533 --> 00:36:03,373
Speaker 9: Our top people are not maniquins. They're not there to

699
00:36:03,413 --> 00:36:07,853
Speaker 9: present the local coffee they drink or whatever. They're there

700
00:36:07,933 --> 00:36:11,133
Speaker 9: to do it job and be professional. So yeah, I

701
00:36:11,173 --> 00:36:17,053
Speaker 9: think what Chris Bishop did and what Nicholas's own remarks

702
00:36:17,133 --> 00:36:19,333
Speaker 9: were totally appropriate.

703
00:36:19,573 --> 00:36:21,493
Speaker 2: Now Die you said that, I can't believe I can't

704
00:36:21,493 --> 00:36:23,453
Speaker 2: remember the exact words, but you were saying that you know,

705
00:36:23,533 --> 00:36:25,772
Speaker 2: she looks how did you describe the way you thought

706
00:36:25,813 --> 00:36:29,333
Speaker 2: she looked? That she looked she's well presented. Do do you

707
00:36:29,333 --> 00:36:32,652
Speaker 2: think do you when you see male politicians, do you

708
00:36:32,693 --> 00:36:35,533
Speaker 2: have that same thought process about them? Do you run that?

709
00:36:35,773 --> 00:36:38,733
Speaker 2: Do you run the same critical eye over what they're

710
00:36:38,733 --> 00:36:41,413
Speaker 2: wearing as you would what Nicholas wearing.

711
00:36:42,373 --> 00:36:42,573
Speaker 7: No.

712
00:36:42,853 --> 00:36:46,253
Speaker 9: When I say well presented, I'm saying, here is a

713
00:36:46,293 --> 00:36:52,293
Speaker 9: professional person dressing for the appropriate attire for the appropriate occasion.

714
00:36:52,933 --> 00:36:56,893
Speaker 9: And we've got some very good politicians who they do

715
00:36:57,013 --> 00:37:00,413
Speaker 9: They are well turned out as and they look they're

716
00:37:00,533 --> 00:37:05,053
Speaker 9: dressed appropriately. They're showing respect to their role, and I

717
00:37:05,613 --> 00:37:07,652
Speaker 9: you know, and I think that is the important thing.

718
00:37:07,693 --> 00:37:11,813
Speaker 9: And it's what ever Nikola Willis feels comfortable wearing, because

719
00:37:12,293 --> 00:37:14,453
Speaker 9: the bottom line is a lot of people are forgetting

720
00:37:15,493 --> 00:37:20,293
Speaker 9: that when you go shopping, we choose clothes that we

721
00:37:20,373 --> 00:37:25,133
Speaker 9: feel comfortable and that fit us well, and we feel

722
00:37:25,133 --> 00:37:28,893
Speaker 9: comfortable and they're not either too out there or two

723
00:37:29,053 --> 00:37:32,893
Speaker 9: conservative that they just work for us. And that's her

724
00:37:32,973 --> 00:37:36,093
Speaker 9: choices should be respected. And I really really like her.

725
00:37:36,493 --> 00:37:40,652
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, all right, thanks die. Yeah, someone here saying

726
00:37:40,693 --> 00:37:44,053
Speaker 2: My point is that you're acting like Nichola Willis as

727
00:37:44,053 --> 00:37:46,773
Speaker 2: some kind of victim. I worked with brands that use ambassadors,

728
00:37:46,773 --> 00:37:49,373
Speaker 2: and yes, if your high profile, that's what your brands

729
00:37:49,493 --> 00:37:52,213
Speaker 2: use to promote their products. That's reality. You should also

730
00:37:52,253 --> 00:37:55,213
Speaker 2: be using Jacinda as an example of how vile Keywis

731
00:37:55,213 --> 00:37:57,573
Speaker 2: can be. You could write your thesis on the misogyny

732
00:37:57,573 --> 00:38:01,053
Speaker 2: that you are doing received from keyboard warriors. Yeah, but

733
00:38:01,173 --> 00:38:04,732
Speaker 2: keywood Warriors are very different from mainstream media. You can't

734
00:38:04,733 --> 00:38:07,613
Speaker 2: shut up the keyboard Warriors. They're irrelevant exactly in this

735
00:38:07,733 --> 00:38:09,853
Speaker 2: chat ye spot on. So it's going to be crazy

736
00:38:09,893 --> 00:38:11,853
Speaker 2: people and some of them aren't even humans. Some of

737
00:38:11,853 --> 00:38:12,573
Speaker 2: them aren't even real.

738
00:38:12,733 --> 00:38:16,133
Speaker 3: Yes, some of them are bots. And this sticks years afternoon, guys,

739
00:38:16,293 --> 00:38:19,373
Speaker 3: After years in high level corporates, I can honestly say

740
00:38:19,413 --> 00:38:23,253
Speaker 3: that females were always the more misogynistic towards other females

741
00:38:23,293 --> 00:38:26,413
Speaker 3: than the men were. Women are often incredibly challenging to

742
00:38:26,453 --> 00:38:28,813
Speaker 3: report to and work with, often more than other men.

743
00:38:29,533 --> 00:38:32,453
Speaker 3: Stuff's management need to take a look at a hard

744
00:38:32,493 --> 00:38:34,413
Speaker 3: look at themselves after that article.

745
00:38:34,853 --> 00:38:37,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, and can guys just say, from my perspective, looking

746
00:38:37,053 --> 00:38:38,692
Speaker 2: at what Tyler's wearing, would it kill you and make

747
00:38:38,693 --> 00:38:38,973
Speaker 2: a bit of.

748
00:38:38,973 --> 00:38:40,933
Speaker 3: Effort you too, mate. I'm going to say, you know you'

749
00:38:41,013 --> 00:38:43,733
Speaker 3: letting the standards slip a little Bit's come on.

750
00:38:44,253 --> 00:38:45,733
Speaker 2: If you guys can see what he's wearing, you have

751
00:38:45,933 --> 00:38:46,813
Speaker 2: no respect from it.

752
00:38:46,893 --> 00:38:49,693
Speaker 3: All right, good discussion, Thank you very much to everybody

753
00:38:49,733 --> 00:38:52,493
Speaker 3: who phoned and text. We're going to change it up

754
00:38:52,533 --> 00:38:55,453
Speaker 3: after two o'clock. We want to talk about the rowal

755
00:38:55,613 --> 00:38:59,453
Speaker 3: kiwis can't seem to follow. You all know the ones.

756
00:38:59,533 --> 00:39:03,453
Speaker 3: It's on the right hand lane. Those who decide to

757
00:39:03,573 --> 00:39:05,573
Speaker 3: go very slow. It's not the fast lane for a

758
00:39:05,573 --> 00:39:07,853
Speaker 3: lot of kiwis. Why is that? We will find out

759
00:39:07,933 --> 00:39:09,573
Speaker 3: very short. Lee oh eight one hundred and eighty ten

760
00:39:09,613 --> 00:39:11,173
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call if you want to

761
00:39:11,173 --> 00:39:13,252
Speaker 3: see a text messager more than welcome. Nine two ninety

762
00:39:13,253 --> 00:39:16,172
Speaker 3: two is that number. New Sport and Weather on its way.

763
00:39:16,173 --> 00:39:19,093
Speaker 3: You're listening to Matt and Tyler. Very very good afternoon to.

764
00:39:19,093 --> 00:39:57,573
Speaker 8: You talking with you all afternoon.

765
00:39:57,853 --> 00:40:01,453
Speaker 1: It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons news talks.

766
00:40:01,493 --> 00:40:01,733
Speaker 8: It be.

767
00:40:04,173 --> 00:40:07,413
Speaker 3: News talks. It'd be good afternoon. See just before we

768
00:40:07,453 --> 00:40:09,533
Speaker 3: move on, i'mout trying put on a brave face, but

769
00:40:09,613 --> 00:40:12,573
Speaker 3: it is stinking hot in here. Yeah, you've cranked that.

770
00:40:12,733 --> 00:40:16,093
Speaker 3: Matt Heath has cranked the aircon in here. I think

771
00:40:16,093 --> 00:40:18,373
Speaker 3: it's about twenty seven at the moment. It's slowly creeping

772
00:40:18,413 --> 00:40:18,893
Speaker 3: to about that.

773
00:40:18,933 --> 00:40:19,053
Speaker 8: Well.

774
00:40:19,093 --> 00:40:20,812
Speaker 2: I come from a radio station where we were allowed

775
00:40:20,813 --> 00:40:22,573
Speaker 2: to control our own air conditioning. Yet to write an

776
00:40:22,573 --> 00:40:26,172
Speaker 2: email upstairs to change the air conditioning. Yeah, So I

777
00:40:26,213 --> 00:40:28,453
Speaker 2: love the huge amount of control we have on the

778
00:40:28,453 --> 00:40:31,773
Speaker 2: heat of our studio, the Microsking Memorial Studio. So I've

779
00:40:31,853 --> 00:40:33,652
Speaker 2: just seen the limits of it. Can we can we

780
00:40:33,733 --> 00:40:35,893
Speaker 2: get this studio up to thirty five? Can we get

781
00:40:35,893 --> 00:40:39,133
Speaker 2: a tropical atmosphere in here just by pumping the temperature.

782
00:40:39,173 --> 00:40:41,453
Speaker 3: I'd quite like the rule downstairs to be implemented. And

783
00:40:41,493 --> 00:40:44,053
Speaker 3: here I'd go further actually, that all changes to the

784
00:40:44,093 --> 00:40:47,053
Speaker 3: aircon has to go through my cosskin. I think you'd

785
00:40:47,093 --> 00:40:47,533
Speaker 3: like that as well.

786
00:40:47,533 --> 00:40:49,693
Speaker 2: Wouldn't he keep it at the same temperature as the

787
00:40:49,733 --> 00:40:50,813
Speaker 2: toom he sleeps in at night?

788
00:40:53,013 --> 00:40:53,413
Speaker 3: Very good?

789
00:40:53,773 --> 00:40:56,172
Speaker 2: Hey, we got out of that last hour live talking

790
00:40:56,173 --> 00:41:00,093
Speaker 2: about female and female misogyny. Yes, so let's take it

791
00:41:00,093 --> 00:41:00,973
Speaker 2: to the roads, Tyler.

792
00:41:01,133 --> 00:41:03,133
Speaker 3: Let's take it to the road. So the road rule

793
00:41:03,133 --> 00:41:06,533
Speaker 3: that kiwis can't seem to follow. So chances are you've

794
00:41:06,533 --> 00:41:09,973
Speaker 3: come across the notorious right lane. A hog the driver

795
00:41:10,013 --> 00:41:12,133
Speaker 3: who sticks in the right lane going just below the

796
00:41:12,173 --> 00:41:16,453
Speaker 3: speed limit, unaware or indifferent to the queues of frustrated drivers.

797
00:41:16,493 --> 00:41:18,533
Speaker 3: So why do we do this?

798
00:41:19,173 --> 00:41:21,733
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems Is it just that people are forgetting

799
00:41:21,733 --> 00:41:25,652
Speaker 2: where they are because they're just cruising along? Because I

800
00:41:25,693 --> 00:41:28,333
Speaker 2: did this recently. I was down in Featherston and I

801
00:41:28,373 --> 00:41:29,453
Speaker 2: was driving over to great.

802
00:41:29,253 --> 00:41:31,573
Speaker 3: Town, great place, Featherstone, just jumping there.

803
00:41:31,613 --> 00:41:34,253
Speaker 2: So it's great Town, beautiful. But I was driving along

804
00:41:34,293 --> 00:41:36,373
Speaker 2: and then I realized that had a huge queue of

805
00:41:36,413 --> 00:41:40,013
Speaker 2: people behind me. And then I looked down and realized

806
00:41:40,013 --> 00:41:42,172
Speaker 2: I was driving at eighty k because I was looking

807
00:41:42,213 --> 00:41:44,253
Speaker 2: at the looking around like a total wound or at

808
00:41:44,253 --> 00:41:47,853
Speaker 2: all the beautiful scenery they hadn't seen before. Right, God,

809
00:41:47,893 --> 00:41:48,933
Speaker 2: great Town's a good place.

810
00:41:49,093 --> 00:41:50,093
Speaker 3: There's a beautiful place.

811
00:41:50,253 --> 00:41:53,773
Speaker 2: But let's move the show to great Town anyway. But

812
00:41:53,853 --> 00:41:56,533
Speaker 2: the point is, is it just people zoning out or

813
00:41:56,573 --> 00:41:59,133
Speaker 2: do they not know? And you know, there's no excuse

814
00:41:59,173 --> 00:42:01,213
Speaker 2: to zone out when you're driving. You should be aware

815
00:42:01,293 --> 00:42:04,533
Speaker 2: all the time. But so many people cruise along in

816
00:42:04,573 --> 00:42:05,933
Speaker 2: that fast lane slow.

817
00:42:06,493 --> 00:42:09,053
Speaker 3: I think here's my theory, I think fifty percent or

818
00:42:09,053 --> 00:42:13,253
Speaker 3: oblivious like you, you're so enamored with the scenery that

819
00:42:13,533 --> 00:42:16,293
Speaker 3: you've got no idea that there's fifty cars behind you,

820
00:42:16,373 --> 00:42:19,493
Speaker 3: getting angry and angrier that who is this muppet up there?

821
00:42:19,533 --> 00:42:21,893
Speaker 2: And let's be clear, you should be enamored with the

822
00:42:21,893 --> 00:42:23,293
Speaker 2: back of the car in front of you and not

823
00:42:23,333 --> 00:42:23,853
Speaker 2: the scenery.

824
00:42:24,013 --> 00:42:27,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, very good advice. But I think the other

825
00:42:27,333 --> 00:42:30,093
Speaker 3: fifty percent, it's almost like a bit of a pissing

826
00:42:30,133 --> 00:42:33,853
Speaker 3: contest that there's something ingrained in our psyche that we

827
00:42:33,893 --> 00:42:36,493
Speaker 3: see it as a personal slight when we let somebody

828
00:42:36,493 --> 00:42:40,253
Speaker 3: past us, particularly when that other person wants to speed,

829
00:42:40,373 --> 00:42:44,173
Speaker 3: and speeding it's illegal, right, and if you speed, chances

830
00:42:44,173 --> 00:42:46,293
Speaker 3: are you may get caught. But who are you, as

831
00:42:46,453 --> 00:42:49,773
Speaker 3: just a lowly old driver on the motorway or highway

832
00:42:49,813 --> 00:42:52,533
Speaker 3: to dictate how far somebody else goes if somebody wants

833
00:42:52,573 --> 00:42:54,173
Speaker 3: to go a little bit over the limit?

834
00:42:54,533 --> 00:42:55,212
Speaker 2: Yeah, right over.

835
00:42:55,453 --> 00:42:58,212
Speaker 3: It just feels like it's ingrained to say I am

836
00:42:58,573 --> 00:43:01,533
Speaker 3: taking control of the highways here. I'm going to be

837
00:43:01,573 --> 00:43:04,853
Speaker 3: a self enforced police officer, and you're going to stay

838
00:43:04,853 --> 00:43:06,053
Speaker 3: behind me no matter what you like.

839
00:43:06,093 --> 00:43:09,613
Speaker 2: Max Forsteppan Yeah, the Monaco grom analogy. He was trying

840
00:43:09,613 --> 00:43:11,813
Speaker 2: to slow everyone down. He was waiting for some kind

841
00:43:11,813 --> 00:43:15,693
Speaker 2: of safety car situation and he was slowing up Lando Norris.

842
00:43:15,733 --> 00:43:17,773
Speaker 2: So char Leclere could get right up as.

843
00:43:17,613 --> 00:43:19,053
Speaker 3: But spot on good analogy.

844
00:43:19,893 --> 00:43:24,853
Speaker 2: We're not all max for stepping at the Monica Grand

845
00:43:24,893 --> 00:43:27,853
Speaker 2: Peed anyway. That's what I stayed up last night to watch.

846
00:43:27,933 --> 00:43:30,133
Speaker 2: So hence, if I'm not speaking properties because I didn't

847
00:43:30,133 --> 00:43:30,853
Speaker 2: get much sleep.

848
00:43:30,693 --> 00:43:31,813
Speaker 3: Well, we want to hear from you on this. So

849
00:43:31,813 --> 00:43:33,933
Speaker 3: I one hundred and eighty ten eighty about these right

850
00:43:34,013 --> 00:43:37,013
Speaker 3: lane hogs and the ones doing just under the speed limit.

851
00:43:37,093 --> 00:43:39,933
Speaker 3: Why can't we follow this particular road rule? But a

852
00:43:39,973 --> 00:43:43,533
Speaker 3: follow up question is do we need to introduce refresher

853
00:43:43,613 --> 00:43:46,333
Speaker 3: courses when it comes to the driver's code.

854
00:43:46,573 --> 00:43:48,893
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if so, because a lot of people don't

855
00:43:48,933 --> 00:43:50,652
Speaker 2: know that. I think a lot of people you'd go, well,

856
00:43:50,693 --> 00:43:52,813
Speaker 2: you're if you're in the far right lane, then that

857
00:43:52,933 --> 00:43:55,652
Speaker 2: unless you're passing, then you're breaking the law. Yeah, you

858
00:43:55,653 --> 00:43:57,413
Speaker 2: can get ticketed for that. So unless you're passing, you

859
00:43:57,453 --> 00:43:59,133
Speaker 2: shouldn't be in that lane, right. I think a lot

860
00:43:59,133 --> 00:44:00,773
Speaker 2: of people wouldn't know that, right. There's a lot of

861
00:44:00,773 --> 00:44:02,693
Speaker 2: people that there's a lot of things that a lot

862
00:44:02,733 --> 00:44:05,013
Speaker 2: of people don't know. So what are those things O

863
00:44:05,053 --> 00:44:07,053
Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty that we need to

864
00:44:07,093 --> 00:44:09,053
Speaker 2: be refreshed on. What do you say when you're driving

865
00:44:09,053 --> 00:44:11,973
Speaker 2: around New Zealand cities and out on the road, where

866
00:44:12,013 --> 00:44:14,652
Speaker 2: you think this is something that that person doesn't know

867
00:44:15,053 --> 00:44:18,093
Speaker 2: that they should know and we need to refresh people on.

868
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Speaker 3: This will be good. Oh, one hundred and eighty ten

869
00:44:19,693 --> 00:44:21,613
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call eleven past.

870
00:44:21,333 --> 00:44:26,933
Speaker 1: Two your home of afternoon talk, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams

871
00:44:26,973 --> 00:44:31,133
Speaker 1: afternoons call eight hundred eighty ten eighty youth Talk said.

872
00:44:30,853 --> 00:44:35,652
Speaker 3: Be thirteen past two. And we're talking about the right

873
00:44:35,773 --> 00:44:38,453
Speaker 3: lane rule, the speeding lane so to speak. It is

874
00:44:38,493 --> 00:44:41,813
Speaker 3: a road rule that Kiwis can't seem to follow. Why

875
00:44:41,933 --> 00:44:45,213
Speaker 3: is that? But also do we need to introduce refresher

876
00:44:45,253 --> 00:44:47,853
Speaker 3: courses for our driver's licenses? And if we do, what

877
00:44:48,333 --> 00:44:50,253
Speaker 3: things do we need to refresh ourselves on?

878
00:44:50,373 --> 00:44:52,692
Speaker 2: Guys, great subject, love the show. I was getting bent

879
00:44:52,733 --> 00:44:55,172
Speaker 2: out of shape over this exact thing just last week

880
00:44:55,253 --> 00:44:57,573
Speaker 2: and it was a cop hoogging the right lane. Oh,

881
00:44:57,653 --> 00:45:00,333
Speaker 2: they're probably allowed to. Another hot point for me is

882
00:45:00,533 --> 00:45:03,653
Speaker 2: park lights. On as it's getting dark, you're not parked,

883
00:45:03,693 --> 00:45:09,053
Speaker 2: don't use them. Full disclosure. I've got no idea about

884
00:45:09,493 --> 00:45:11,252
Speaker 2: when you use what. I don't even know what park

885
00:45:11,333 --> 00:45:13,493
Speaker 2: lights are. I maybe should hand in my license. I

886
00:45:13,493 --> 00:45:17,173
Speaker 2: don't really know what park lights are or driving lights,

887
00:45:17,413 --> 00:45:19,333
Speaker 2: what lights are? What my car is automatic? It just

888
00:45:19,333 --> 00:45:20,613
Speaker 2: turns on exactly.

889
00:45:20,693 --> 00:45:21,493
Speaker 3: That's all I was going to say.

890
00:45:21,573 --> 00:45:24,533
Speaker 2: My carving depths now when you've got oncoming traffic, so

891
00:45:24,573 --> 00:45:28,533
Speaker 2: it goes full beam up and down. So and how

892
00:45:28,613 --> 00:45:30,453
Speaker 2: quickly do you forget this? Because I've probably had cars,

893
00:45:30,453 --> 00:45:33,413
Speaker 2: probably only for the last ten years that do all

894
00:45:33,413 --> 00:45:35,133
Speaker 2: those kind of things, and now I've completely forgot what

895
00:45:35,133 --> 00:45:36,773
Speaker 2: park lights are or anything to do with lights.

896
00:45:36,813 --> 00:45:39,533
Speaker 3: You just let the automatic sort it out. Is the

897
00:45:39,533 --> 00:45:42,413
Speaker 3: same in my car, but just quickly on the headlights.

898
00:45:42,453 --> 00:45:46,453
Speaker 3: The brightness of headlights is that has ratcheted up in

899
00:45:46,453 --> 00:45:47,413
Speaker 3: the last couple of years.

900
00:45:47,773 --> 00:45:48,973
Speaker 2: Yeah? Right? Has it a A?

901
00:45:49,253 --> 00:45:51,053
Speaker 3: I know there was just there was a question.

902
00:45:51,213 --> 00:45:51,573
Speaker 5: A right.

903
00:45:51,573 --> 00:45:53,652
Speaker 3: It just feels like everybody's on full beams these days.

904
00:45:53,653 --> 00:45:55,253
Speaker 2: Now, this is the questions come through. I'd like to

905
00:45:55,253 --> 00:45:58,493
Speaker 2: know the answer to on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty,

906
00:45:58,933 --> 00:46:01,613
Speaker 2: But are you allowed to exceed the speed limit when

907
00:46:01,653 --> 00:46:03,053
Speaker 2: you pass someone. I thought that was just one of

908
00:46:03,093 --> 00:46:05,293
Speaker 2: the gray areas of life that sometimes you need you

909
00:46:05,333 --> 00:46:07,293
Speaker 2: to go above the speed limit to pass someone. But

910
00:46:07,373 --> 00:46:10,093
Speaker 2: I would imagine and that you isn't legal to go

911
00:46:10,093 --> 00:46:11,533
Speaker 2: over the speed limit, as a bunch of people are

912
00:46:11,533 --> 00:46:14,652
Speaker 2: texting when you're passing someone, because why do you need

913
00:46:14,693 --> 00:46:16,293
Speaker 2: to pass them? If you have to go over the

914
00:46:16,293 --> 00:46:17,333
Speaker 2: speed limit to pass them.

915
00:46:17,253 --> 00:46:19,133
Speaker 3: I'll tell you why, and I don't know the answers

916
00:46:19,133 --> 00:46:20,573
Speaker 3: are that. But the reason you need to do that

917
00:46:20,733 --> 00:46:23,493
Speaker 3: is it's because those numpties that do aighty k until

918
00:46:23,493 --> 00:46:25,133
Speaker 3: they get to a passing lane and then all of

919
00:46:25,173 --> 00:46:27,013
Speaker 3: a sudden speed up to one hundred. So you have

920
00:46:27,133 --> 00:46:30,253
Speaker 3: to go a little bit over the speed link that'll happen.

921
00:46:30,373 --> 00:46:32,773
Speaker 2: You notice you're driving slow and you go, oh and

922
00:46:32,853 --> 00:46:35,893
Speaker 2: so you speed up. Simon, welcome to show your thoughts

923
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Speaker 2: on this, Simon.

924
00:46:39,973 --> 00:46:42,652
Speaker 3: Si gared A. Simon, Are you there?

925
00:46:42,733 --> 00:46:43,053
Speaker 2: Simon?

926
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Speaker 3: Simon?

927
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Speaker 1: Hello?

928
00:46:46,413 --> 00:46:48,413
Speaker 3: At there he is?

929
00:46:48,453 --> 00:46:49,853
Speaker 2: How are you? Simon? Welcome to the show.

930
00:46:50,053 --> 00:46:52,652
Speaker 16: Sorry, guys, don't know what happened there? Boy, have you

931
00:46:52,813 --> 00:46:57,573
Speaker 16: found my subject today? Says I lived overseas for a

932
00:46:57,573 --> 00:47:00,573
Speaker 16: good number of years in the UK and motorway driving

933
00:47:00,653 --> 00:47:02,613
Speaker 16: over there. I hate to say this about the pomes.

934
00:47:02,653 --> 00:47:06,533
Speaker 16: They like to winge by the bloody better and driving

935
00:47:06,613 --> 00:47:10,413
Speaker 16: on the motorway, there's a culture keep left unless your

936
00:47:10,813 --> 00:47:14,613
Speaker 16: path and help traffic to flow. Okay, there's about seventy

937
00:47:14,653 --> 00:47:16,613
Speaker 16: million people over there for the you have to do

938
00:47:16,653 --> 00:47:19,533
Speaker 16: it to make the country function. But we have people

939
00:47:19,573 --> 00:47:21,973
Speaker 16: that just block it up. And if you flash behind

940
00:47:22,013 --> 00:47:25,013
Speaker 16: them politely, just splash once and they pull over. They

941
00:47:25,013 --> 00:47:27,053
Speaker 16: actually get it in their heads as soon as you're

942
00:47:27,133 --> 00:47:29,093
Speaker 16: on parts and you see them pull back out into

943
00:47:29,133 --> 00:47:30,172
Speaker 16: the parts lave yeah.

944
00:47:30,293 --> 00:47:30,533
Speaker 2: Right.

945
00:47:31,693 --> 00:47:35,053
Speaker 16: And I'm on a personal mission to educate people because

946
00:47:35,093 --> 00:47:37,693
Speaker 16: as soon as I've gone past, I pull into the

947
00:47:37,773 --> 00:47:40,733
Speaker 16: left lane that you show them we're all doing it.

948
00:47:40,773 --> 00:47:42,813
Speaker 16: I might have flashed you, but I play by the

949
00:47:42,853 --> 00:47:46,293
Speaker 16: same rules. And I'm trying to start a campaign here.

950
00:47:46,533 --> 00:47:49,133
Speaker 16: I believe the first Tuesday of every month we should

951
00:47:49,133 --> 00:47:52,973
Speaker 16: have nationally, especially in Auckland. Don't drive like a deck day.

952
00:47:53,413 --> 00:47:57,813
Speaker 16: Keep traffic flowing, and I bet I bet everyone will

953
00:47:57,853 --> 00:48:00,693
Speaker 16: notice they got to where they're going about forty to

954
00:48:00,813 --> 00:48:01,493
Speaker 16: teen quicker.

955
00:48:01,573 --> 00:48:03,413
Speaker 2: I like that. I like that, don't drive like a

956
00:48:03,453 --> 00:48:07,013
Speaker 2: deck day. We can get behind that that's good. So yeah,

957
00:48:07,053 --> 00:48:09,133
Speaker 2: I mean, and that's something else happens. There is the

958
00:48:09,253 --> 00:48:11,893
Speaker 2: enforcement of this. So if there's someone that's just cruising along,

959
00:48:12,413 --> 00:48:14,853
Speaker 2: like they are allowed to just live in the far

960
00:48:14,973 --> 00:48:18,333
Speaker 2: right lane, they're just lead to cruise along there. Then

961
00:48:18,413 --> 00:48:20,893
Speaker 2: often you'll get en forces that come right up their

962
00:48:20,933 --> 00:48:23,133
Speaker 2: ass just to make the point, right, You get people

963
00:48:23,133 --> 00:48:26,053
Speaker 2: that are tailgating just to make the point that you

964
00:48:26,093 --> 00:48:28,253
Speaker 2: shouldn't be sitting in there, and then that leads to

965
00:48:28,293 --> 00:48:31,093
Speaker 2: other people driving dangerously as they try and police the

966
00:48:31,173 --> 00:48:32,293
Speaker 2: roads themselves.

967
00:48:33,253 --> 00:48:35,973
Speaker 16: Yeah, it does, and you shouldn't tell gate Like when

968
00:48:35,973 --> 00:48:38,172
Speaker 16: I flash people, I'm coming up on them and it's

969
00:48:38,173 --> 00:48:41,813
Speaker 16: just a one flash. I'm not like flashing constantly in

970
00:48:41,853 --> 00:48:45,893
Speaker 16: their mirror, and it's it's just it's iniquity. Like it's

971
00:48:45,933 --> 00:48:47,973
Speaker 16: just got to get New Zealand is bad for this.

972
00:48:48,133 --> 00:48:50,453
Speaker 16: We're greater to put in the all blacks, but then

973
00:48:50,493 --> 00:48:53,133
Speaker 16: on the roads and so there's got to get on

974
00:48:53,333 --> 00:48:57,733
Speaker 16: their culture of help traffic flow because it gets what

975
00:48:57,973 --> 00:48:59,213
Speaker 16: it helps them as well.

976
00:48:59,413 --> 00:49:01,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder if the the you know in the UK,

977
00:49:01,773 --> 00:49:03,853
Speaker 2: because you get used to it on the on the subways,

978
00:49:04,333 --> 00:49:06,533
Speaker 2: standing on you know, how you stand on the escalator.

979
00:49:06,573 --> 00:49:08,773
Speaker 2: It's drilled into you. If you're in a hurry, you

980
00:49:08,853 --> 00:49:11,813
Speaker 2: go on the you stand on the right, going up right,

981
00:49:11,893 --> 00:49:16,693
Speaker 2: and and people are very very very very harsh on that.

982
00:49:16,893 --> 00:49:19,173
Speaker 2: You know, you stand on the right, which is the

983
00:49:19,173 --> 00:49:21,333
Speaker 2: opposite of the situation on the roads to let people

984
00:49:21,373 --> 00:49:24,093
Speaker 2: go up the left right, that's right on the escalators,

985
00:49:24,093 --> 00:49:26,093
Speaker 2: and that is police Like if you if you're just

986
00:49:26,213 --> 00:49:28,732
Speaker 2: hanging out on the wrong side, not moving, then then

987
00:49:28,853 --> 00:49:31,053
Speaker 2: then someone will be like, oy the way you mop here?

988
00:49:31,093 --> 00:49:33,293
Speaker 2: What are you doing? Yeah, you're mop here?

989
00:49:34,053 --> 00:49:36,853
Speaker 12: I heard that in England, actually stepping here on the

990
00:49:36,893 --> 00:49:40,533
Speaker 12: wrong side time in London, and someone corrected me and

991
00:49:40,573 --> 00:49:43,333
Speaker 12: I actually went, oh, sorry, it didn't know. And guess

992
00:49:43,333 --> 00:49:47,453
Speaker 12: what I got with the program thereafter, because why i'd

993
00:49:47,493 --> 00:49:51,533
Speaker 12: be the person that just stops everything. We've all got

994
00:49:51,573 --> 00:49:52,853
Speaker 12: to share this world together.

995
00:49:53,133 --> 00:49:54,333
Speaker 18: You need to work it.

996
00:49:54,733 --> 00:49:56,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for you, col Simon. Can I just

997
00:49:57,013 --> 00:50:00,013
Speaker 2: complain on an offer you. Something that I think someone

998
00:50:00,013 --> 00:50:02,213
Speaker 2: should be tasered for is when you're at the airport

999
00:50:02,253 --> 00:50:05,413
Speaker 2: and you're coming down the escalator and it says it's

1000
00:50:05,413 --> 00:50:08,133
Speaker 2: got this automated message that tells everyone to be careful

1001
00:50:08,133 --> 00:50:11,373
Speaker 2: when exiting the escalator. Yes, watch mind your step when

1002
00:50:11,373 --> 00:50:12,893
Speaker 2: you're exiting the escalator at the airport.

1003
00:50:12,973 --> 00:50:13,053
Speaker 1: Ye.

1004
00:50:13,213 --> 00:50:15,413
Speaker 2: That just goes all day and out, as if there's

1005
00:50:15,453 --> 00:50:17,053
Speaker 2: a single person in the world that doesn't know how

1006
00:50:17,093 --> 00:50:20,133
Speaker 2: to get off an escalator. The amount of energy that

1007
00:50:20,173 --> 00:50:24,013
Speaker 2: they're wasting running that message over and over telling people

1008
00:50:24,053 --> 00:50:26,973
Speaker 2: how to do something as basic as getting off an escalator.

1009
00:50:27,493 --> 00:50:30,573
Speaker 2: That drives me absolutely crazy. And you know how expensive

1010
00:50:30,613 --> 00:50:33,172
Speaker 2: it is. The Auckland, the airport I'm talking about here.

1011
00:50:33,533 --> 00:50:35,733
Speaker 2: This is when you're hitting down towards the exit gates,

1012
00:50:35,773 --> 00:50:37,333
Speaker 2: you know, when you come off the plane, your departure,

1013
00:50:37,453 --> 00:50:40,693
Speaker 2: your arrival, you know. I mean, they could save some

1014
00:50:40,733 --> 00:50:43,653
Speaker 2: money right there by shutting down that stupid sign.

1015
00:50:44,133 --> 00:50:44,573
Speaker 3: They could do.

1016
00:50:44,653 --> 00:50:46,533
Speaker 2: I mean, what's the worst thing that could happen? Someone

1017
00:50:47,173 --> 00:50:49,133
Speaker 2: trips slightly coming off the escalator.

1018
00:50:49,333 --> 00:50:51,732
Speaker 3: That's it happens all the time. But maybe because they

1019
00:50:51,733 --> 00:50:53,373
Speaker 3: see that sign and they start to panic.

1020
00:50:53,933 --> 00:50:57,173
Speaker 2: Sign I put a sign up. It's just this audio

1021
00:50:57,173 --> 00:50:58,253
Speaker 2: that plays constantly.

1022
00:50:58,413 --> 00:50:59,653
Speaker 3: I haven't heard that. It's audio.

1023
00:50:59,813 --> 00:51:04,333
Speaker 2: It's just constantly. Mind. I'm going to record it next

1024
00:51:04,333 --> 00:51:07,493
Speaker 2: time because it drives me so crazy. It's the infantie,

1025
00:51:07,613 --> 00:51:10,133
Speaker 2: it's the it's the there's a word for it, the

1026
00:51:10,173 --> 00:51:15,093
Speaker 2: infantine lace. Work on the word infantizing, infantizing, let's say,

1027
00:51:15,093 --> 00:51:18,093
Speaker 2: advertizing of people treating everyone like a baby.

1028
00:51:17,893 --> 00:51:20,013
Speaker 3: One one foot in front of the other. Yeah, Oh,

1029
00:51:20,093 --> 00:51:22,453
Speaker 3: one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call

1030
00:51:22,933 --> 00:51:24,453
Speaker 3: if you want to have a chat about the escalators,

1031
00:51:24,453 --> 00:51:27,253
Speaker 3: you're more than welcome. But also this rule that we

1032
00:51:27,333 --> 00:51:30,693
Speaker 3: can't seem to follow right hand lane, the fast lane?

1033
00:51:30,693 --> 00:51:33,013
Speaker 3: Why can't we follow it? And do we need refresher

1034
00:51:33,053 --> 00:51:35,933
Speaker 3: courses when it comes to our driver's license? It is

1035
00:51:36,333 --> 00:51:38,813
Speaker 3: twenty pasts two back very shortly here on News Talks, EDB.

1036
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Speaker 8: Mad Heathen Tyler Adams.

1037
00:51:44,773 --> 00:51:48,613
Speaker 1: Afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty on Youth Talks, EDB.

1038
00:51:48,893 --> 00:51:51,853
Speaker 3: Good afternoon. We're talking about the fast lane. It's the

1039
00:51:51,933 --> 00:51:54,652
Speaker 3: road real kiwis can't seem to follow. But also asked

1040
00:51:54,653 --> 00:51:57,253
Speaker 3: the question do we need refresher courses when it comes

1041
00:51:57,293 --> 00:51:57,933
Speaker 3: to our driving?

1042
00:51:58,173 --> 00:52:01,933
Speaker 2: And the word I was looking for is the infantilistization

1043
00:52:02,693 --> 00:52:05,893
Speaker 2: infantilization of society as what we're talking about.

1044
00:52:05,973 --> 00:52:08,253
Speaker 3: And you're talking about the escalator that we audio that

1045
00:52:08,493 --> 00:52:11,293
Speaker 3: plays on a loop in the Auckland Airport it's almost

1046
00:52:11,493 --> 00:52:12,533
Speaker 3: like slow torture.

1047
00:52:12,573 --> 00:52:14,013
Speaker 2: Yeah. So we're kind of running two lines here that

1048
00:52:14,093 --> 00:52:17,173
Speaker 2: are almost contradictorary because I'm saying that, but I'm also

1049
00:52:17,213 --> 00:52:20,213
Speaker 2: saying that we need to run a no dick. You know,

1050
00:52:20,213 --> 00:52:22,613
Speaker 2: we need to re educate people on how to drive. Yeah,

1051
00:52:22,933 --> 00:52:27,333
Speaker 2: this person says, you're pathetic. Oh thanks, okay, thanks wreck. Yeah.

1052
00:52:28,013 --> 00:52:30,292
Speaker 2: Park lights are for when you park on the side

1053
00:52:30,293 --> 00:52:33,533
Speaker 2: of the road, fog lights for in fog driving, lights

1054
00:52:33,573 --> 00:52:35,853
Speaker 2: for driving on the open road. The word gives you

1055
00:52:35,893 --> 00:52:36,293
Speaker 2: the hints.

1056
00:52:37,213 --> 00:52:39,652
Speaker 3: But what you said there is your Castle's it out

1057
00:52:39,653 --> 00:52:42,773
Speaker 3: for you now. There's no need for you to you know, I.

1058
00:52:42,893 --> 00:52:45,373
Speaker 2: Was saying, Warwick, I'm on your side. I'm saying that

1059
00:52:45,413 --> 00:52:49,133
Speaker 2: I have been I have been infantilized by my car.

1060
00:52:49,573 --> 00:52:51,213
Speaker 2: But my cars for the last ten years have been

1061
00:52:51,253 --> 00:52:53,533
Speaker 2: doing everything for me, and as a result, I've lost

1062
00:52:53,533 --> 00:52:56,173
Speaker 2: the ability. It's like the way the Kiwi lost its wings.

1063
00:52:57,213 --> 00:52:59,933
Speaker 2: But it got too easy. There's no natural predators out there.

1064
00:52:59,973 --> 00:53:00,133
Speaker 3: You know.

1065
00:53:00,213 --> 00:53:02,333
Speaker 2: I'm not getting hassled for having the wrong lights on

1066
00:53:02,453 --> 00:53:04,133
Speaker 2: because my car is doing it for me. Anyway.

1067
00:53:04,253 --> 00:53:06,053
Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred and eighty to eighty is the number

1068
00:53:06,053 --> 00:53:07,293
Speaker 3: to call. Josh how you doing.

1069
00:53:08,693 --> 00:53:12,533
Speaker 15: Yeah, okay, guys, I reckon we should reduce the number

1070
00:53:12,573 --> 00:53:15,613
Speaker 15: of road codes in the country and then redirect that

1071
00:53:15,733 --> 00:53:19,933
Speaker 15: into a public campaign about educating people about road ediquit

1072
00:53:20,013 --> 00:53:25,333
Speaker 15: and manners, particularly around it long weekends and Christmas time,

1073
00:53:25,493 --> 00:53:28,493
Speaker 15: just reminder ads, you know, and it could just be hey,

1074
00:53:28,613 --> 00:53:32,013
Speaker 15: pool left if you're not passing, or all of those

1075
00:53:32,053 --> 00:53:35,053
Speaker 15: sort of things. But either think, I mean, there's some

1076
00:53:35,093 --> 00:53:37,733
Speaker 15: people that would be incredulous and think, well, you know,

1077
00:53:37,813 --> 00:53:39,733
Speaker 15: I paid for the road and not out that attitude,

1078
00:53:39,733 --> 00:53:41,933
Speaker 15: But I think that's a small number. I think most

1079
00:53:41,973 --> 00:53:47,853
Speaker 15: people are just blissfully unawares. And I do a lot

1080
00:53:47,853 --> 00:53:50,652
Speaker 15: of driving. I probably do about fifty k's a year,

1081
00:53:50,973 --> 00:53:52,173
Speaker 15: and I drive the whole.

1082
00:53:52,093 --> 00:53:53,093
Speaker 19: Length of the country.

1083
00:53:53,813 --> 00:53:56,573
Speaker 15: And one thing is I kind of know the roads,

1084
00:53:56,773 --> 00:53:59,253
Speaker 15: you know, And I think a lot of people they

1085
00:53:59,293 --> 00:54:03,493
Speaker 15: don't know the roads. And it's just little things like anticipation.

1086
00:54:03,613 --> 00:54:06,293
Speaker 15: If you're going through Wayuru and you get through that

1087
00:54:06,333 --> 00:54:09,172
Speaker 15: windy bit, you know where it's twenty thirty k there's

1088
00:54:09,213 --> 00:54:12,013
Speaker 15: an opportunity for about three hundred meters to pass a

1089
00:54:12,013 --> 00:54:15,013
Speaker 15: couple of trucks. But you need to know that that's there,

1090
00:54:15,053 --> 00:54:17,093
Speaker 15: and you need to anticipate that and if you've driven

1091
00:54:17,133 --> 00:54:19,172
Speaker 15: that road, you think, hey, there's ten people behind me,

1092
00:54:19,253 --> 00:54:21,253
Speaker 15: so I'll be on that little passing lane as quick

1093
00:54:21,293 --> 00:54:23,293
Speaker 15: as i can and get in front of this truck

1094
00:54:23,333 --> 00:54:25,853
Speaker 15: and sever an house can pass. But I think you know,

1095
00:54:26,293 --> 00:54:30,692
Speaker 15: anticipation awareness, spatial awareness, looking at your mirrors. I think

1096
00:54:30,733 --> 00:54:32,293
Speaker 15: a lot of people they just get in there and

1097
00:54:32,293 --> 00:54:33,453
Speaker 15: they're blissfully unaware.

1098
00:54:33,853 --> 00:54:36,893
Speaker 2: Yeah, saying the other day about just anticipation. Obviously you

1099
00:54:37,173 --> 00:54:38,853
Speaker 2: drive the road a lot, so you know a lot.

1100
00:54:38,933 --> 00:54:41,172
Speaker 2: But even just we were talking about the satur day

1101
00:54:41,173 --> 00:54:46,652
Speaker 2: and someone was saying, drive considering two kilometers ahead at

1102
00:54:46,693 --> 00:54:49,333
Speaker 2: any given time, So you're always considering not just you

1103
00:54:49,373 --> 00:54:52,333
Speaker 2: know the three second rule, but you're also looking into

1104
00:54:52,373 --> 00:54:55,133
Speaker 2: the far distance and thinking about whatever's quite a way

1105
00:54:55,453 --> 00:54:56,013
Speaker 2: in front of you.

1106
00:54:57,253 --> 00:55:00,133
Speaker 15: Well, it's a visual it's a visual sport, you know,

1107
00:55:00,373 --> 00:55:01,733
Speaker 15: you want to call it that, you know, because I

1108
00:55:01,773 --> 00:55:04,253
Speaker 15: mean it's the one thing you can't do with your

1109
00:55:04,253 --> 00:55:07,373
Speaker 15: eyes closed. And so you know you've got you've got

1110
00:55:07,413 --> 00:55:09,813
Speaker 15: the mirrors there for reason, just like you've got a

1111
00:55:09,853 --> 00:55:13,093
Speaker 15: seat belt. There's a reason for it, right, And I

1112
00:55:13,213 --> 00:55:15,413
Speaker 15: just think that now, like say, if you ride a motorbike,

1113
00:55:15,573 --> 00:55:17,773
Speaker 15: everything's on your vision because you know you've got to

1114
00:55:17,773 --> 00:55:19,653
Speaker 15: be looking ahead, you've got to be looking at hazards

1115
00:55:19,653 --> 00:55:21,653
Speaker 15: on the road because you can't just drive over gravel

1116
00:55:21,733 --> 00:55:24,172
Speaker 15: like a car. You've got to hit the corner at

1117
00:55:24,173 --> 00:55:27,733
Speaker 15: the right place, entry speed, exit speed. It's just you

1118
00:55:27,853 --> 00:55:30,053
Speaker 15: kind of have to just know what you're doing. And

1119
00:55:30,133 --> 00:55:32,613
Speaker 15: I just feel like people hop in a car and

1120
00:55:32,893 --> 00:55:36,493
Speaker 15: it's probably the most dangerous activity for the average person

1121
00:55:36,893 --> 00:55:39,453
Speaker 15: they will ever undertake in their whole life. They won't

1122
00:55:39,533 --> 00:55:41,652
Speaker 15: jump out of a plane with a parachute, but they'll

1123
00:55:41,653 --> 00:55:43,772
Speaker 15: hop on that car and they'll do that mundane drive

1124
00:55:43,853 --> 00:55:46,253
Speaker 15: every day. And I think it's like complacency.

1125
00:55:46,573 --> 00:55:49,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's a thing that's going on.

1126
00:55:49,333 --> 00:55:51,933
Speaker 2: It kind of plays into the safetyism of society that

1127
00:55:52,573 --> 00:55:54,533
Speaker 2: sounds like it might be contradictory ideas, But if if

1128
00:55:54,533 --> 00:55:57,053
Speaker 2: you're going down an escalator and you're told constantly to

1129
00:55:57,413 --> 00:55:59,732
Speaker 2: watch your step when you get off, then I think

1130
00:55:59,893 --> 00:56:02,373
Speaker 2: young people coming through feel like everything's going to be

1131
00:56:02,373 --> 00:56:04,293
Speaker 2: sorted for them. And then when you get out into

1132
00:56:04,333 --> 00:56:06,853
Speaker 2: a car, you have to make a whole lot of decisions,

1133
00:56:06,853 --> 00:56:09,453
Speaker 2: and they can be life or death situations where you

1134
00:56:09,573 --> 00:56:12,893
Speaker 2: actually need to be the kind of person that's competent

1135
00:56:13,053 --> 00:56:15,732
Speaker 2: and learned to look out for dangers. So the more

1136
00:56:15,813 --> 00:56:18,093
Speaker 2: we can you see kind of what I'm saying, It's

1137
00:56:18,173 --> 00:56:20,693
Speaker 2: kind of like two contradictory ideas. But the one place,

1138
00:56:20,773 --> 00:56:22,292
Speaker 2: and I say this to my kids all the time,

1139
00:56:22,373 --> 00:56:24,733
Speaker 2: the most as you say, Josh, the most dangerous thing

1140
00:56:24,773 --> 00:56:27,733
Speaker 2: you will ever do in your life is drive between cities.

1141
00:56:28,373 --> 00:56:29,733
Speaker 2: Absolutely dangerous.

1142
00:56:30,293 --> 00:56:33,293
Speaker 15: So go back that up with acc I mean, you know,

1143
00:56:33,413 --> 00:56:36,133
Speaker 15: like I mean, you know, people can work under and

1144
00:56:36,133 --> 00:56:39,013
Speaker 15: the helicopters and and they'll drive home and get and

1145
00:56:39,093 --> 00:56:39,973
Speaker 15: kill them killed.

1146
00:56:39,813 --> 00:56:40,212
Speaker 4: In the car.

1147
00:56:40,573 --> 00:56:44,893
Speaker 15: Yeah, well by somebody else. So because you're also not

1148
00:56:44,973 --> 00:56:47,533
Speaker 15: relying on yourself, you're relying on someone else. Yeah, and

1149
00:56:48,053 --> 00:56:49,933
Speaker 15: you might be a great driver and get taken out

1150
00:56:50,013 --> 00:56:51,573
Speaker 15: by someone who's just done a silly thing.

1151
00:56:52,253 --> 00:56:52,493
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1152
00:56:52,653 --> 00:56:55,173
Speaker 3: I wonder if it is, Josh, sorry to jump in there,

1153
00:56:55,213 --> 00:56:56,853
Speaker 3: I wonder if it is. You know, Matt, you talked

1154
00:56:56,853 --> 00:56:59,253
Speaker 3: about the auto lights you got going on, or you

1155
00:56:59,253 --> 00:57:01,732
Speaker 3: don't have to worry about gears. I imagine you got

1156
00:57:01,733 --> 00:57:04,413
Speaker 3: cruise controlled because it's a beautiful car. All that stuff

1157
00:57:04,453 --> 00:57:06,733
Speaker 3: is great. At least you are learning to drive. I

1158
00:57:06,773 --> 00:57:10,253
Speaker 3: mean that means you just go into autopilot mode, and

1159
00:57:10,333 --> 00:57:13,973
Speaker 3: as you say, Josh blissfully blissfully is unaware, dangerous people.

1160
00:57:14,173 --> 00:57:16,453
Speaker 2: Everyone's crucifying us. And the text message about calling it

1161
00:57:16,493 --> 00:57:18,173
Speaker 2: the fast lane, but you know what we mean by

1162
00:57:18,173 --> 00:57:21,653
Speaker 2: the fast lane, the passing the right lane. But but

1163
00:57:21,733 --> 00:57:24,453
Speaker 2: that's the thing. There's so many people just seeing zoned out,

1164
00:57:24,613 --> 00:57:27,853
Speaker 2: just driving along at the you know, holding people up,

1165
00:57:27,893 --> 00:57:30,053
Speaker 2: not getting out of the passing lane when they're and

1166
00:57:30,133 --> 00:57:32,413
Speaker 2: just using that because they're zoned out, because the car

1167
00:57:32,453 --> 00:57:34,333
Speaker 2: does everything for them until it doesn't.

1168
00:57:34,413 --> 00:57:36,693
Speaker 15: Well, it's called being present, doesn't that. I think that,

1169
00:57:36,773 --> 00:57:39,493
Speaker 15: you know, like it's something I concentrate on, and I

1170
00:57:39,533 --> 00:57:43,013
Speaker 15: take it very seriously. I'm always present. I'm always the

1171
00:57:43,013 --> 00:57:45,413
Speaker 15: person that will offer to drive everyone else because I

1172
00:57:45,533 --> 00:57:47,733
Speaker 15: know that when I sit on that seat, I am present,

1173
00:57:48,253 --> 00:57:50,573
Speaker 15: you know, and I'm not going to farm out my

1174
00:57:50,613 --> 00:57:54,293
Speaker 15: safety to too many other people, and so I take

1175
00:57:54,293 --> 00:57:57,293
Speaker 15: it seriously. I think your professional drivers, like your truck drivers,

1176
00:57:57,293 --> 00:58:00,013
Speaker 15: are people who drive equipment. They know the consequences of

1177
00:58:00,133 --> 00:58:03,893
Speaker 15: mistakes because you know these things they can't stop easy

1178
00:58:04,053 --> 00:58:06,573
Speaker 15: or you know, there's there's there's a bit of danger

1179
00:58:06,613 --> 00:58:09,813
Speaker 15: in there. And I think people like this cruise control

1180
00:58:09,893 --> 00:58:13,453
Speaker 15: and active lane as I hate all that stuff because

1181
00:58:13,573 --> 00:58:16,253
Speaker 15: I want to be in charge of the vehicle, not

1182
00:58:16,253 --> 00:58:18,493
Speaker 15: not farming out to somebody else. And I think a

1183
00:58:18,533 --> 00:58:20,573
Speaker 15: bit like you're thinking, we do. I tell you what,

1184
00:58:20,733 --> 00:58:24,573
Speaker 15: you couldn't get two people and a beautifully flat surface

1185
00:58:24,893 --> 00:58:27,933
Speaker 15: like a big open car park to drive towards each

1186
00:58:27,933 --> 00:58:30,533
Speaker 15: other at one hundred kilometers an hour and day. I

1187
00:58:30,653 --> 00:58:32,493
Speaker 15: need you to do that, but I only want three

1188
00:58:32,933 --> 00:58:34,933
Speaker 15: three feet exactly between your.

1189
00:58:36,813 --> 00:58:37,493
Speaker 17: Couldn't do it.

1190
00:58:37,893 --> 00:58:39,773
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really good way. That's a really good

1191
00:58:39,773 --> 00:58:40,573
Speaker 2: way to describe it.

1192
00:58:41,653 --> 00:58:42,693
Speaker 15: They need the white line.

1193
00:58:42,853 --> 00:58:45,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Hey, thank you so much for your call. Josh,

1194
00:58:45,853 --> 00:58:49,173
Speaker 2: right hand, you know fast, we just got the texases.

1195
00:58:49,213 --> 00:58:51,333
Speaker 2: Just call it right here and I'm going far right.

1196
00:58:52,253 --> 00:58:54,053
Speaker 3: Why can't we call it the fast lane. You don't

1197
00:58:54,133 --> 00:58:57,533
Speaker 3: understanda I call it whatever I wanted. Yeah, in the

1198
00:58:57,573 --> 00:58:58,133
Speaker 3: first lane.

1199
00:58:58,133 --> 00:59:00,693
Speaker 2: Come on, yeah, I'll call it the speeding lane if

1200
00:59:00,733 --> 00:59:04,653
Speaker 2: I want. Don't try and dictate my speech. Don't try speech,

1201
00:59:04,733 --> 00:59:07,653
Speaker 2: don't try and control my thought. Police, come on, get

1202
00:59:07,653 --> 00:59:08,173
Speaker 2: out of Monday.

1203
00:59:08,573 --> 00:59:10,533
Speaker 3: Known oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is

1204
00:59:10,653 --> 00:59:13,733
Speaker 3: the number to call after the headlines. I've just spotted

1205
00:59:13,773 --> 00:59:17,533
Speaker 3: a very very controversial text. I'll read out a little

1206
00:59:17,573 --> 00:59:20,253
Speaker 3: bit of that text coming up. I'm going to have

1207
00:59:20,333 --> 00:59:23,173
Speaker 3: to censor some words in there, but I'll read that

1208
00:59:23,213 --> 00:59:25,413
Speaker 3: out in its entirety if I can. It has bang

1209
00:59:25,453 --> 00:59:26,453
Speaker 3: on past two.

1210
00:59:29,413 --> 00:59:33,053
Speaker 10: Jus talks at the headlines, Well blue bubble taxis. It's

1211
00:59:33,133 --> 00:59:36,373
Speaker 10: no trouble with a blue bubble. The government still doesn't

1212
00:59:36,453 --> 00:59:39,933
Speaker 10: know how much it's changed to default employer and employee

1213
00:59:40,013 --> 00:59:43,533
Speaker 10: key we save for payments will impact the books despite

1214
00:59:43,533 --> 00:59:47,693
Speaker 10: announcing it in the budget. Former National MP Maryland Wearing

1215
00:59:47,773 --> 00:59:50,973
Speaker 10: set up a People's Committee to carry out the consultation

1216
00:59:51,173 --> 00:59:54,653
Speaker 10: not done before the government abruptly changed pay equity law

1217
00:59:54,973 --> 00:59:58,573
Speaker 10: under urgency this month. She says they'll hear the evidence

1218
00:59:58,653 --> 01:00:03,213
Speaker 10: Parliament should have listened to. Advocates say intensifying building in

1219
01:00:03,293 --> 01:00:07,933
Speaker 10: Auckland CBD can't come soon enough. Planning changes coming into

1220
01:00:07,973 --> 01:00:11,693
Speaker 10: effect will allow a fourfold increase in housing and businesses

1221
01:00:12,013 --> 01:00:16,293
Speaker 10: and eliminate some height limits. A woman's being charged in

1222
01:00:16,373 --> 01:00:20,333
Speaker 10: Dunedin with threatening to stab arresting police overnight at the

1223
01:00:20,453 --> 01:00:24,613
Speaker 10: Kensington Noville homeless camp. Clean up is underway and flood

1224
01:00:24,613 --> 01:00:28,853
Speaker 10: batted New South Wales after extreme rain caused widespread damage

1225
01:00:28,853 --> 01:00:33,613
Speaker 10: and evacuations, with at least five people killed and quantuses

1226
01:00:33,653 --> 01:00:36,453
Speaker 10: an ounce more cross Tasman flights during the summer peak

1227
01:00:36,773 --> 01:00:41,213
Speaker 10: in December and January. From Prisoner from Prison, I should

1228
01:00:41,293 --> 01:00:46,853
Speaker 10: say two Professor Lance Ryan's journey highlights reintegration gaps. You

1229
01:00:46,853 --> 01:00:49,293
Speaker 10: can see the full column at and said Herald Premium

1230
01:00:49,613 --> 01:00:51,573
Speaker 10: back to Matt Eathan Tyler Adams.

1231
01:00:51,213 --> 01:00:53,173
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Ray Lane. And we're talking about

1232
01:00:54,453 --> 01:00:57,613
Speaker 3: driving in the fast lane. I'm sticking with fast land. Yeah,

1233
01:00:57,693 --> 01:00:59,893
Speaker 3: come for me if you want on nine two nine two.

1234
01:01:00,133 --> 01:01:02,093
Speaker 3: But on the right hand lane. We all know it,

1235
01:01:02,133 --> 01:01:04,733
Speaker 3: and apparently Kiwis can't seem to follow that rule.

1236
01:01:04,613 --> 01:01:06,813
Speaker 2: Very I think you can just live in there. You can't.

1237
01:01:06,853 --> 01:01:08,733
Speaker 2: You're only in there when you're passing and you get

1238
01:01:08,773 --> 01:01:11,693
Speaker 2: back into the lane, the other lane, in the middle

1239
01:01:11,773 --> 01:01:13,373
Speaker 2: lane if you want, or if you're super slow, you

1240
01:01:13,413 --> 01:01:15,653
Speaker 2: go into the other lane. People need to know that.

1241
01:01:15,693 --> 01:01:18,933
Speaker 2: But we're also saying that, Look, there's a lot of

1242
01:01:18,933 --> 01:01:21,413
Speaker 2: these things that people just don't know. There's people out

1243
01:01:21,453 --> 01:01:23,453
Speaker 2: there driving that don't know any of these roles. I

1244
01:01:23,493 --> 01:01:25,213
Speaker 2: think a lot of people that are in that fast

1245
01:01:25,293 --> 01:01:28,293
Speaker 2: lane don't know, don't know that you're They just think

1246
01:01:28,333 --> 01:01:30,293
Speaker 2: that's an opportunity. If there's less people in it, then

1247
01:01:30,293 --> 01:01:31,853
Speaker 2: that's their gap.

1248
01:01:31,573 --> 01:01:31,693
Speaker 7: Ye.

1249
01:01:31,973 --> 01:01:33,933
Speaker 3: They're not being malicious, they just don't know. But that

1250
01:01:34,133 --> 01:01:36,053
Speaker 3: is the fast lane. Yeah, if you're in that lane,

1251
01:01:36,093 --> 01:01:37,053
Speaker 3: you've got to go fast.

1252
01:01:37,133 --> 01:01:39,173
Speaker 2: So I eight hundred and eighty ten eighty things that

1253
01:01:39,213 --> 01:01:41,133
Speaker 2: people don't seem to know that they should know. That

1254
01:01:41,173 --> 01:01:43,733
Speaker 2: would make the roads flow a lot better. Now, I

1255
01:01:43,773 --> 01:01:46,653
Speaker 2: was saying before about get really annoyed, and this is

1256
01:01:46,773 --> 01:01:50,253
Speaker 2: on and off the topic. Get terribly annoyed when I'm

1257
01:01:50,253 --> 01:01:54,013
Speaker 2: at the airport and they just have this constant audio

1258
01:01:54,613 --> 01:01:57,973
Speaker 2: playing every twenty seconds when you're coming down the escalator

1259
01:01:58,013 --> 01:01:59,893
Speaker 2: saying mind just step when you're getting off the escalator,

1260
01:02:00,133 --> 01:02:03,733
Speaker 2: And I just think it's the infantilization of humanity the

1261
01:02:03,773 --> 01:02:06,013
Speaker 2: safety culture. It's like, it's insulting to think that I

1262
01:02:06,053 --> 01:02:09,493
Speaker 2: can't get off an escalator. This EXTA sees airports have

1263
01:02:09,573 --> 01:02:11,413
Speaker 2: that message on the airport escalators as part of their

1264
01:02:11,453 --> 01:02:13,933
Speaker 2: liabilities under the Health and Safety Act of two thousand

1265
01:02:13,933 --> 01:02:15,893
Speaker 2: and four. If there's a mishap, then the authority will

1266
01:02:15,893 --> 01:02:19,013
Speaker 2: be all over them like white on rice fees and

1267
01:02:19,093 --> 01:02:23,133
Speaker 2: sewing cheers and Yeah, but that's then that means whoever

1268
01:02:23,573 --> 01:02:26,733
Speaker 2: is responsible for that in the Health and Safety Act

1269
01:02:26,773 --> 01:02:28,533
Speaker 2: of two thousand and four should be tasted for it.

1270
01:02:29,293 --> 01:02:31,973
Speaker 2: This this text is said, and they've texted about ten times.

1271
01:02:32,293 --> 01:02:34,813
Speaker 2: I've retrieved a bunch of fingers and toes from escalators.

1272
01:02:34,853 --> 01:02:35,653
Speaker 2: It's not much fun.

1273
01:02:35,733 --> 01:02:39,253
Speaker 3: Wow, Really, we need more, we need more information. I

1274
01:02:39,293 --> 01:02:40,253
Speaker 3: get the context of that.

1275
01:02:40,373 --> 01:02:42,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you get your fingers and toes into

1276
01:02:42,093 --> 01:02:44,893
Speaker 2: an escalator? It's got the little slightly bit and do you.

1277
01:02:44,813 --> 01:02:46,813
Speaker 3: Work a forty hour week for that? I mean, how many.

1278
01:02:46,893 --> 01:02:49,693
Speaker 2: People people riding the escalator and beer feet and it happens?

1279
01:02:49,693 --> 01:02:51,373
Speaker 2: I mean, who's getting off a plane and beer feet

1280
01:02:51,413 --> 01:02:53,533
Speaker 2: and the risk of their fingers and toes? How do

1281
01:02:53,573 --> 01:02:55,173
Speaker 2: you get your fingers into an escalator?

1282
01:02:55,253 --> 01:02:55,453
Speaker 12: Yeah?

1283
01:02:55,453 --> 01:02:57,533
Speaker 3: I can understand toes, fingers.

1284
01:02:58,053 --> 01:03:01,173
Speaker 2: I mean I've read somewhere that escalators are the safest

1285
01:03:01,173 --> 01:03:02,493
Speaker 2: one of transport in the world.

1286
01:03:02,973 --> 01:03:05,373
Speaker 3: You see where it goes wrong though, and it's not

1287
01:03:05,493 --> 01:03:06,013
Speaker 3: it's not good.

1288
01:03:06,093 --> 01:03:08,973
Speaker 2: No, that's lifts. No, that's lifts.

1289
01:03:09,053 --> 01:03:11,813
Speaker 3: But yeah, really, fingers and toes text and we want

1290
01:03:11,813 --> 01:03:12,253
Speaker 3: to hear more.

1291
01:03:13,573 --> 01:03:16,093
Speaker 2: You've texted five times the same text on the fingers

1292
01:03:16,093 --> 01:03:18,853
Speaker 2: and toes where Now, yeah, you're right, Tyler, we need

1293
01:03:18,853 --> 01:03:20,093
Speaker 2: more information on that story.

1294
01:03:19,853 --> 01:03:21,573
Speaker 3: And we chase that person up Andrew. We'll just see

1295
01:03:21,573 --> 01:03:22,493
Speaker 3: if we can get them on the blower.

1296
01:03:22,893 --> 01:03:25,333
Speaker 2: Craig, you reckon. There's three types of people on the road.

1297
01:03:26,333 --> 01:03:29,133
Speaker 17: Yeah, man, I do. I'm with you, Matt. I think

1298
01:03:29,213 --> 01:03:31,573
Speaker 17: the auto motorways the worst for it. When you're seeing

1299
01:03:31,613 --> 01:03:34,573
Speaker 17: to get out on the bomb Bays. On those expressways,

1300
01:03:34,573 --> 01:03:36,813
Speaker 17: you don't tend to have the bottom so much. But

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01:03:36,893 --> 01:03:40,693
Speaker 17: I think you've got a person that's not confident driving,

1302
01:03:41,333 --> 01:03:43,573
Speaker 17: and they know if they get in that right lane

1303
01:03:43,613 --> 01:03:46,133
Speaker 17: at Silverdale, they can get all the way to the

1304
01:03:46,133 --> 01:03:50,373
Speaker 17: Bombay Hills and it'll take them all those ways through safely.

1305
01:03:50,453 --> 01:03:54,013
Speaker 17: So they just stick in that lane knowing that it'll

1306
01:03:54,013 --> 01:03:56,653
Speaker 17: get them right for a walk clan without a handful,

1307
01:03:58,093 --> 01:04:00,573
Speaker 17: and as soon as they get out of Walford, they'll

1308
01:04:00,613 --> 01:04:05,013
Speaker 17: tend to stick in the left late. You've got also

1309
01:04:05,053 --> 01:04:08,933
Speaker 17: got the people that and I can't stand. They'll stick

1310
01:04:09,013 --> 01:04:12,133
Speaker 17: to the speed limits. That's the speed limit, that's the

1311
01:04:12,613 --> 01:04:16,253
Speaker 17: that's my right and I'll stay here, you know. And

1312
01:04:16,293 --> 01:04:19,493
Speaker 17: then they're the biggest problem because you don't know why

1313
01:04:19,573 --> 01:04:25,093
Speaker 17: someone's having to go fast that day. And and there's

1314
01:04:25,453 --> 01:04:28,133
Speaker 17: some good, valid reasons why some people have to rush,

1315
01:04:28,213 --> 01:04:32,653
Speaker 17: you know. And so I think the big one is

1316
01:04:33,013 --> 01:04:36,653
Speaker 17: not confident drivers and especially in the Auckland Motorway, they

1317
01:04:36,693 --> 01:04:38,853
Speaker 17: know that they can stick on that one lane and

1318
01:04:38,893 --> 01:04:40,013
Speaker 17: it will get them right through.

1319
01:04:41,293 --> 01:04:43,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so they.

1320
01:04:42,933 --> 01:04:46,453
Speaker 17: Do it, you know, whereas the middle lanes for that

1321
01:04:46,453 --> 01:04:48,253
Speaker 17: that gets them right through it. Well, but they don't

1322
01:04:48,253 --> 01:04:49,133
Speaker 17: need to know that one.

1323
01:04:49,493 --> 01:04:50,853
Speaker 2: Yeah. I just don't think people know.

1324
01:04:52,053 --> 01:04:52,093
Speaker 20: No.

1325
01:04:52,933 --> 01:04:55,253
Speaker 17: And it's like the left lane to me on the motorway,

1326
01:04:55,333 --> 01:04:57,693
Speaker 17: the left lanes to get off and off you're in

1327
01:04:57,693 --> 01:05:00,413
Speaker 17: the middle, yes, once you're on the motorway.

1328
01:05:00,613 --> 01:05:03,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you get on the motorway and you're in

1329
01:05:03,173 --> 01:05:04,853
Speaker 2: the left lane, and then you make your way to

1330
01:05:04,893 --> 01:05:07,573
Speaker 2: the middle lane unless you're passing someone, and then you

1331
01:05:07,613 --> 01:05:09,533
Speaker 2: go into the right lane. And if you've passed that

1332
01:05:09,573 --> 01:05:11,373
Speaker 2: person in the middle lane, you then go back into

1333
01:05:11,373 --> 01:05:13,773
Speaker 2: the middle lane. And then as you say, Craig, when

1334
01:05:13,773 --> 01:05:15,653
Speaker 2: you get when you're about to get off, you then

1335
01:05:15,853 --> 01:05:17,573
Speaker 2: make your way over to the left lane.

1336
01:05:17,653 --> 01:05:20,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, makes sense because there's no reason you should be

1337
01:05:20,053 --> 01:05:22,013
Speaker 3: in the right lane. It's not like you can get

1338
01:05:22,013 --> 01:05:23,653
Speaker 3: off the motor on the right lane. So there's no

1339
01:05:23,733 --> 01:05:26,453
Speaker 3: reason to be in that unless you're living life in

1340
01:05:26,493 --> 01:05:27,093
Speaker 3: the first lane.

1341
01:05:27,093 --> 01:05:30,013
Speaker 17: That is the first lane, okay, and peak our traffic

1342
01:05:30,053 --> 01:05:31,693
Speaker 17: in the morning. I'm going to truck every morning, and

1343
01:05:31,773 --> 01:05:34,293
Speaker 17: a peak our traffic. I get on the motorway at

1344
01:05:34,293 --> 01:05:36,773
Speaker 17: Silverdale and I get it all the way through to

1345
01:05:36,853 --> 01:05:40,493
Speaker 17: the Harbor Bridge without breaking, and I just keep trucking

1346
01:05:40,533 --> 01:05:43,533
Speaker 17: a low gear. I stick in the middle lane, and

1347
01:05:43,693 --> 01:05:47,053
Speaker 17: the cars go miles ahead, and then I'm up on them,

1348
01:05:47,493 --> 01:05:49,573
Speaker 17: and they by the time i'm on them, they're moving.

1349
01:05:50,013 --> 01:05:52,293
Speaker 17: But I don't have to break once, but everyone else

1350
01:05:52,373 --> 01:05:54,893
Speaker 17: is on and off. It breaks constantly, and it's just

1351
01:05:55,533 --> 01:05:57,773
Speaker 17: I don't know what it is. People just don't watch.

1352
01:05:57,773 --> 01:06:03,933
Speaker 17: Some let people in, and they they're most courteous when

1353
01:06:03,973 --> 01:06:05,173
Speaker 17: all the traffic lights are out.

1354
01:06:05,653 --> 01:06:10,013
Speaker 3: Well yeah, yeah, when something goes mem politeness comes out.

1355
01:06:10,693 --> 01:06:14,493
Speaker 17: And the traffic flows so much better without the traffic lights,

1356
01:06:15,053 --> 01:06:16,693
Speaker 17: you know, because people let people in.

1357
01:06:17,053 --> 01:06:20,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'd agree with that. I mean, surely, Craig,

1358
01:06:20,333 --> 01:06:22,813
Speaker 3: there's a large part of arrogance here. Maybe not on

1359
01:06:22,853 --> 01:06:27,293
Speaker 3: the Auckland motorways, but when I say the White Cattle Express,

1360
01:06:27,293 --> 01:06:29,173
Speaker 3: when I've been on that and someone's been in the

1361
01:06:29,253 --> 01:06:32,413
Speaker 3: right lane and they go and bang on a hundred

1362
01:06:32,613 --> 01:06:35,613
Speaker 3: and it might be one hundred and ten. I assume

1363
01:06:35,733 --> 01:06:38,533
Speaker 3: those people there's a touch of arrogance there that they

1364
01:06:38,533 --> 01:06:40,733
Speaker 3: think they do in the speed limit and nobody else

1365
01:06:40,813 --> 01:06:41,973
Speaker 3: is going to get around them.

1366
01:06:42,773 --> 01:06:45,093
Speaker 17: Oh that's one. And they want to place the road

1367
01:06:45,133 --> 01:06:47,333
Speaker 17: for everybody. But I don't see that so much on

1368
01:06:47,413 --> 01:06:49,893
Speaker 17: those expressways. In fact, I don't know. I never really

1369
01:06:49,973 --> 01:06:51,693
Speaker 17: see that. You know, I can go through it a

1370
01:06:51,813 --> 01:06:54,013
Speaker 17: one hundred and fifteen because it's one hundred and ten

1371
01:06:55,133 --> 01:07:00,173
Speaker 17: and it's you don't at that highest speed, you don't

1372
01:07:00,293 --> 01:07:02,493
Speaker 17: seem to get the people holding you up in the

1373
01:07:02,813 --> 01:07:06,253
Speaker 17: right hand lane as you do on the Orcy Motorway.

1374
01:07:07,213 --> 01:07:09,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll think if you all, Craig, see this is

1375
01:07:09,533 --> 01:07:12,333
Speaker 2: what Don Henley was singing in the Eagles, wasn't he

1376
01:07:12,373 --> 01:07:14,973
Speaker 2: in seventy one? Yeah, when you see I say, laugh

1377
01:07:15,053 --> 01:07:18,813
Speaker 2: in the fast lean Charlotte and make you lose your man,

1378
01:07:19,333 --> 01:07:20,693
Speaker 2: laugh in the vast lane.

1379
01:07:21,133 --> 01:07:25,053
Speaker 3: He nailed it. Listen to him nice sinking as well, Matt.

1380
01:07:25,213 --> 01:07:28,453
Speaker 2: He was talking about New Zealand traffic and people's propensity

1381
01:07:28,773 --> 01:07:31,013
Speaker 2: to lose their mind and zone out. We're in there

1382
01:07:31,013 --> 01:07:34,213
Speaker 2: passing passing the right Laneyah.

1383
01:07:33,853 --> 01:07:35,253
Speaker 3: What a karaoke tune as well.

1384
01:07:35,333 --> 01:07:37,573
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's harder to sing than you think. I mean,

1385
01:07:37,613 --> 01:07:38,253
Speaker 2: I nailed it.

1386
01:07:38,333 --> 01:07:40,053
Speaker 3: You did pretty well. Then you got to say, actually,

1387
01:07:40,053 --> 01:07:40,453
Speaker 3: world up.

1388
01:07:40,493 --> 01:07:43,893
Speaker 2: You know, it's probably a few few octaves off where

1389
01:07:43,933 --> 01:07:44,773
Speaker 2: Don had on it.

1390
01:07:45,413 --> 01:07:47,413
Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

1391
01:07:47,453 --> 01:07:50,173
Speaker 3: to call. We'll take more of your thoughts on this

1392
01:07:50,533 --> 01:07:53,053
Speaker 3: very shortly, and if you want to change nine nine

1393
01:07:53,133 --> 01:07:54,373
Speaker 3: two you see something.

1394
01:07:54,613 --> 01:07:56,293
Speaker 2: I'll just have to sort of weigh up whither I'm

1395
01:07:56,293 --> 01:07:58,893
Speaker 2: going to read that text out or not. I think

1396
01:07:58,933 --> 01:07:59,253
Speaker 2: I will.

1397
01:07:59,373 --> 01:08:02,373
Speaker 3: Okay, that's going to be going nineteen to three shocking.

1398
01:08:04,213 --> 01:08:07,693
Speaker 1: Mattie Taylor Adams with you as your afternoon rolls on

1399
01:08:07,893 --> 01:08:10,933
Speaker 1: Mattie Taylor Adams Afternoons used talk.

1400
01:08:10,973 --> 01:08:13,813
Speaker 3: Sa'd be very good afternoon to you. So we're talking

1401
01:08:13,853 --> 01:08:18,692
Speaker 3: about why Kiwis don't understand the right right lane rule

1402
01:08:18,693 --> 01:08:21,853
Speaker 3: when it comes to being in the fast lane, and

1403
01:08:21,853 --> 01:08:23,893
Speaker 3: it is the fast lane if you want to get

1404
01:08:23,933 --> 01:08:25,772
Speaker 3: somewhere a little bit quicker than other people who were

1405
01:08:25,772 --> 01:08:27,612
Speaker 3: going under the speed limit, the right lane is the

1406
01:08:27,692 --> 01:08:30,372
Speaker 3: lane you need to be in. But apparently kiwis don't

1407
01:08:30,412 --> 01:08:32,452
Speaker 3: understand that. But we've also asked, if we're going to

1408
01:08:32,772 --> 01:08:36,173
Speaker 3: introduce some sort of refresher course for driver's licenses, what

1409
01:08:36,293 --> 01:08:39,412
Speaker 3: other mistakes do we make constantly on the road.

1410
01:08:39,572 --> 01:08:41,452
Speaker 2: Great text from Reuben here that I can't read out.

1411
01:08:42,053 --> 01:08:46,932
Speaker 2: It's very sexual metaphors run there. Amuses me, but probably

1412
01:08:46,973 --> 01:08:48,412
Speaker 2: not for the airwaves.

1413
01:08:47,933 --> 01:08:49,852
Speaker 3: And quite spot on as well. If only we could

1414
01:08:49,893 --> 01:08:50,412
Speaker 3: read that out.

1415
01:08:50,532 --> 01:08:52,333
Speaker 2: I mean, it describes it exactly the situation.

1416
01:08:52,412 --> 01:08:54,853
Speaker 3: It does great analogy, but in such lude.

1417
01:08:54,572 --> 01:08:57,293
Speaker 2: Sexual terms that I'm sure I could read it out. Hey,

1418
01:08:57,293 --> 01:09:00,372
Speaker 2: this is the text here that I've decided to read out,

1419
01:09:00,492 --> 01:09:03,492
Speaker 2: even though I probably shouldn't. Yep, and interesting because I've

1420
01:09:03,492 --> 01:09:05,532
Speaker 2: decided not to read out that sexual one, which I

1421
01:09:05,532 --> 01:09:07,093
Speaker 2: think was it made a lot of sense. But I

1422
01:09:07,093 --> 01:09:09,412
Speaker 2: will read out this one, okay, which which I'll be

1423
01:09:09,452 --> 01:09:12,572
Speaker 2: interested to people hear people thoughts. I see myself as

1424
01:09:12,572 --> 01:09:15,253
Speaker 2: a road vigilante CSUS TEXTA. Someone has to do it.

1425
01:09:15,293 --> 01:09:17,333
Speaker 2: If someone is driving in the right hand land and

1426
01:09:17,532 --> 01:09:21,133
Speaker 2: lane and not moving out, I'll pass them on the inside,

1427
01:09:21,213 --> 01:09:23,133
Speaker 2: pull in just in front of them, and then start

1428
01:09:23,173 --> 01:09:25,732
Speaker 2: speeding up and slowing down to mess with them if

1429
01:09:25,732 --> 01:09:28,972
Speaker 2: they move to the middle. I follow you woke soft seas.

1430
01:09:29,652 --> 01:09:32,572
Speaker 2: We'll probably cry about this, but at least I'm doing

1431
01:09:32,612 --> 01:09:35,333
Speaker 2: something about the problem and not just whinging about it

1432
01:09:35,612 --> 01:09:36,293
Speaker 2: on the radio.

1433
01:09:36,692 --> 01:09:39,333
Speaker 3: Wow. Well the seat you and you Windo was was minimal,

1434
01:09:39,692 --> 01:09:41,972
Speaker 3: But that is that's a hell of a stance to take.

1435
01:09:42,293 --> 01:09:43,932
Speaker 2: Have you ever heard him say I see myself as

1436
01:09:43,933 --> 01:09:47,452
Speaker 2: a vigilantes? Never a good start. If you ever see

1437
01:09:47,452 --> 01:09:49,732
Speaker 2: yourself as a vigilante, that's when it's time to pump

1438
01:09:49,772 --> 01:09:50,052
Speaker 2: the brakes.

1439
01:09:50,053 --> 01:09:51,372
Speaker 3: So what if you have to if you see that

1440
01:09:51,452 --> 01:09:53,212
Speaker 3: guy out on the road just sick.

1441
01:09:53,452 --> 01:09:56,133
Speaker 2: Part of the pud not pump the brakes like this, guys,

1442
01:09:56,333 --> 01:10:00,532
Speaker 2: pump the brakes and your vigilanteism. Christine, welcome to the show.

1443
01:10:00,532 --> 01:10:04,333
Speaker 2: You're not the possessed car, Christine? Are you?

1444
01:10:04,333 --> 01:10:04,532
Speaker 18: No?

1445
01:10:04,612 --> 01:10:05,133
Speaker 21: That's not me?

1446
01:10:05,293 --> 01:10:09,293
Speaker 18: No, that's good. I just ring in the out The

1447
01:10:09,412 --> 01:10:11,852
Speaker 18: people who sit in the right hand lane's there's a

1448
01:10:11,853 --> 01:10:14,692
Speaker 18: really simple solution that's done overseas on the right hand

1449
01:10:14,732 --> 01:10:17,452
Speaker 18: line above the bridges, et cetera. But just a sign

1450
01:10:17,492 --> 01:10:19,172
Speaker 18: is saying overtaking only.

1451
01:10:21,093 --> 01:10:22,772
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never seen that sign.

1452
01:10:23,293 --> 01:10:24,852
Speaker 3: Do they have been on passing lanes?

1453
01:10:24,933 --> 01:10:26,093
Speaker 2: You've seen it? Have you seen it.

1454
01:10:26,213 --> 01:10:29,933
Speaker 18: Christ it's on the right hand lane overseas. I've seen it.

1455
01:10:30,933 --> 01:10:32,732
Speaker 2: I missed overseas. Yeah, I just have never seen it.

1456
01:10:33,732 --> 01:10:34,012
Speaker 16: Yeah.

1457
01:10:34,412 --> 01:10:37,253
Speaker 18: So and that's all it takes, and that's that solves it.

1458
01:10:37,853 --> 01:10:40,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think you're right. I think

1459
01:10:40,253 --> 01:10:43,933
Speaker 2: no one. I think no one. No one knows. I

1460
01:10:43,933 --> 01:10:45,333
Speaker 2: mean not no one knows. But I think a lot

1461
01:10:45,333 --> 01:10:47,453
Speaker 2: of the people that are doing this just just blindly

1462
01:10:47,452 --> 01:10:50,052
Speaker 2: don't know. They think that they're just driving along. They're

1463
01:10:50,093 --> 01:10:52,093
Speaker 2: happy as there, and they think, oh, this is an

1464
01:10:52,093 --> 01:10:53,412
Speaker 2: interesting lane. There don't seem to be a.

1465
01:10:53,412 --> 01:10:55,692
Speaker 3: Lot of people in it. I'll just stay here. Maybe

1466
01:10:55,692 --> 01:10:58,492
Speaker 3: it's the multi lane thing that confuses people, because arguably,

1467
01:10:58,812 --> 01:11:00,852
Speaker 3: if you've got four lanes, then three of them can

1468
01:11:00,933 --> 01:11:02,972
Speaker 3: be considered right right lanes.

1469
01:11:04,412 --> 01:11:07,972
Speaker 18: Well, the sign is over the outside right hand lane,

1470
01:11:07,973 --> 01:11:10,812
Speaker 18: which decided that somebody the country you're in, so that

1471
01:11:10,973 --> 01:11:13,692
Speaker 18: lane is Stata airs it's overtaking only.

1472
01:11:14,492 --> 01:11:17,732
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh well, yeah, thank you. If you call Christine,

1473
01:11:17,853 --> 01:11:19,213
Speaker 2: we do seem to see a lot of signs for

1474
01:11:19,293 --> 01:11:20,092
Speaker 2: a lot of other things.

1475
01:11:20,253 --> 01:11:23,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, great movie and book by the way, Chris, Christine, Yeah,

1476
01:11:23,093 --> 01:11:28,412
Speaker 3: good movie. Yeah, frightening, very scary. Possessed car yeah, hey boys.

1477
01:11:28,532 --> 01:11:31,053
Speaker 3: One thing that really frustrates me is the flow of

1478
01:11:31,333 --> 01:11:34,973
Speaker 3: traffic is people not pulling over to the left, just

1479
01:11:35,053 --> 01:11:38,052
Speaker 3: that one down there pulling over to the left when turning,

1480
01:11:38,173 --> 01:11:40,572
Speaker 3: especially when roads are wide and there is that strip

1481
01:11:40,612 --> 01:11:42,652
Speaker 3: to the left of the lane. They slow down and

1482
01:11:42,692 --> 01:11:45,772
Speaker 3: the main flow of traffic slowing everyone else behind them.

1483
01:11:45,893 --> 01:11:48,812
Speaker 3: They just don't seem to have any realization of traffic

1484
01:11:48,853 --> 01:11:50,892
Speaker 3: behind them. I see it every day, five times a day.

1485
01:11:51,293 --> 01:11:53,692
Speaker 3: I thought I was taught to pull left, mind you,

1486
01:11:53,772 --> 01:11:56,293
Speaker 3: that was forty plus years ago. Yeah, that is a

1487
01:11:56,293 --> 01:12:00,013
Speaker 3: great point. So that is when you're someone wants to

1488
01:12:00,053 --> 01:12:03,293
Speaker 3: turn off to maybe a group of shots or the mall,

1489
01:12:03,572 --> 01:12:06,572
Speaker 3: and there's a wee left hand element that they can

1490
01:12:06,692 --> 01:12:08,932
Speaker 3: kind of go that way, get off the main road,

1491
01:12:09,333 --> 01:12:12,053
Speaker 3: and then start to turn left into wherever they're going. Yeah,

1492
01:12:12,053 --> 01:12:13,612
Speaker 3: a lot of people just stay on the main load

1493
01:12:13,652 --> 01:12:18,492
Speaker 3: and then hard left or hard break instead of just

1494
01:12:18,572 --> 01:12:20,972
Speaker 3: moving slightly to the left where there's a wee lane

1495
01:12:21,013 --> 01:12:23,692
Speaker 3: that has been created for you to just slowly. I

1496
01:12:23,692 --> 01:12:25,213
Speaker 3: see what you're saying, go where you need to go.

1497
01:12:25,333 --> 01:12:27,173
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean some of that can be put down

1498
01:12:27,213 --> 01:12:31,692
Speaker 2: to panicking and missing missing your turn off and those

1499
01:12:31,772 --> 01:12:32,133
Speaker 2: kind of things.

1500
01:12:32,173 --> 01:12:35,652
Speaker 3: There's a lot of that as well. Yeah, Darren, how

1501
01:12:35,692 --> 01:12:36,572
Speaker 3: are you this afternoon?

1502
01:12:38,093 --> 01:12:38,972
Speaker 15: Yeah, good, thank you.

1503
01:12:40,093 --> 01:12:43,973
Speaker 3: And thoughts on the passing lane, it's not a.

1504
01:12:44,372 --> 01:12:45,412
Speaker 14: Yeah there's a passing lane.

1505
01:12:45,492 --> 01:12:48,372
Speaker 20: Yeah, the passing lane to use it the path of car.

1506
01:12:49,452 --> 01:12:53,293
Speaker 20: If there's nothing else you need to pass, we'll move

1507
01:12:53,333 --> 01:12:53,852
Speaker 20: to the left.

1508
01:12:53,973 --> 01:12:56,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I'll just because you were going to give me,

1509
01:12:56,452 --> 01:12:57,732
Speaker 3: give me a bit of a bit of stick for

1510
01:12:57,732 --> 01:12:59,452
Speaker 3: calling at the fast lane, which is fair enough, darre

1511
01:12:59,452 --> 01:13:01,293
Speaker 3: and so you reckon it should be called the passing

1512
01:13:01,372 --> 01:13:04,133
Speaker 3: lane for good reason that it's there to pass people

1513
01:13:04,293 --> 01:13:05,692
Speaker 3: rather than go fast.

1514
01:13:07,293 --> 01:13:08,852
Speaker 20: Yeah, it's not there for you just said at one

1515
01:13:08,933 --> 01:13:11,333
Speaker 20: hundred k or eighty k or anything. That's just simply

1516
01:13:11,372 --> 01:13:14,412
Speaker 20: there for you to pass another car. A big example

1517
01:13:14,492 --> 01:13:17,532
Speaker 20: was in the UK when I first drove in the UK.

1518
01:13:18,253 --> 01:13:21,093
Speaker 20: They they were horrified that I was sitting in.

1519
01:13:21,013 --> 01:13:22,572
Speaker 18: An outside lane.

1520
01:13:22,853 --> 01:13:26,173
Speaker 20: And then I went in and I passed the car

1521
01:13:26,293 --> 01:13:29,253
Speaker 20: on the inside lane and oh my god, I think

1522
01:13:29,452 --> 01:13:30,732
Speaker 20: it was like I killed someone.

1523
01:13:31,093 --> 01:13:33,053
Speaker 15: But you're not allowed to pass on the inside lane

1524
01:13:33,173 --> 01:13:33,532
Speaker 15: and the.

1525
01:13:33,492 --> 01:13:38,452
Speaker 20: UK on any motorway, yeah right, so yeah, that was

1526
01:13:38,572 --> 01:13:41,652
Speaker 20: in the UK. You can drive for I don't know,

1527
01:13:41,692 --> 01:13:44,933
Speaker 20: twenty thirty hundred miles and you'll never see anyone in

1528
01:13:44,973 --> 01:13:47,812
Speaker 20: the right hand lane. Yeah, yeah, everyone's in the left

1529
01:13:47,812 --> 01:13:48,652
Speaker 20: doing the speed limit.

1530
01:13:48,933 --> 01:13:51,053
Speaker 2: See, Darren, I'm on your side now, because before I

1531
01:13:51,053 --> 01:13:53,652
Speaker 2: blow up and I tell people not I'm not interested

1532
01:13:53,692 --> 01:13:55,933
Speaker 2: in compelled speech, don't tell me not to call it

1533
01:13:56,333 --> 01:13:59,572
Speaker 2: the farce lane. But I see your point. Everyone did.

1534
01:13:59,612 --> 01:14:01,652
Speaker 2: Just call it the passing lane. I know what the

1535
01:14:01,692 --> 01:14:03,293
Speaker 2: fast lane means, that you go in there when you

1536
01:14:03,333 --> 01:14:05,372
Speaker 2: need to pass someone. But you're quite right if we

1537
01:14:05,452 --> 01:14:07,013
Speaker 2: just call it the passing lane and the people at least

1538
01:14:07,093 --> 01:14:08,812
Speaker 2: know what you're supposed to doing it.

1539
01:14:08,893 --> 01:14:13,092
Speaker 3: Yeah, and as well argued that if it's a far flame,

1540
01:14:13,372 --> 01:14:16,812
Speaker 3: what speed should you be doing that outside. That's a good.

1541
01:14:16,652 --> 01:14:20,293
Speaker 2: Point because because arguably there's only one speed you should

1542
01:14:20,293 --> 01:14:22,852
Speaker 2: be doing really well, one speed you shouldn't be going

1543
01:14:22,853 --> 01:14:23,013
Speaker 2: to have.

1544
01:14:24,612 --> 01:14:26,852
Speaker 20: Another issue I think you have in the city is

1545
01:14:27,133 --> 01:14:28,412
Speaker 20: going down a bit of a dark path.

1546
01:14:28,572 --> 01:14:30,892
Speaker 17: But there's a lot of immigrants.

1547
01:14:30,333 --> 01:14:34,173
Speaker 20: Down in the cities, and I know for a fact

1548
01:14:34,173 --> 01:14:37,372
Speaker 20: that like my wife brought to your license before she

1549
01:14:37,452 --> 01:14:38,213
Speaker 20: got to New Zealand.

1550
01:14:39,133 --> 01:14:41,612
Speaker 3: Really and oh yeah.

1551
01:14:41,532 --> 01:14:44,772
Speaker 20: Yeah, if you've got a like I've got Filipino mates

1552
01:14:44,812 --> 01:14:46,812
Speaker 20: and that, and once they get their license, like they

1553
01:14:46,853 --> 01:14:49,093
Speaker 20: just hand your license in New Zealand and you're getting

1554
01:14:49,093 --> 01:14:49,692
Speaker 20: New Zealand one.

1555
01:14:49,692 --> 01:14:50,412
Speaker 17: You don't have to sit a.

1556
01:14:50,452 --> 01:14:54,612
Speaker 2: Test, right, You're not. Wow, I don't want to.

1557
01:14:54,612 --> 01:14:56,612
Speaker 15: Go down like people thinking I'm rang.

1558
01:14:56,732 --> 01:14:59,772
Speaker 20: I've got a lot of Filipino Figi and friends and stuff,

1559
01:14:59,812 --> 01:15:01,812
Speaker 20: guys that I work with and stuff like that, and

1560
01:15:01,933 --> 01:15:02,692
Speaker 20: same in the UK.

1561
01:15:03,093 --> 01:15:04,852
Speaker 15: I would put my license straight away.

1562
01:15:04,893 --> 01:15:06,333
Speaker 7: I said, here's my New Zealand one.

1563
01:15:06,452 --> 01:15:09,692
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And I don't anyone saw it that way, Darren.

1564
01:15:09,732 --> 01:15:11,812
Speaker 3: It's it's wherever you're coming from, whether it's your wish,

1565
01:15:11,933 --> 01:15:14,293
Speaker 3: UK whatever, it sounds like that'll be in the same

1566
01:15:14,333 --> 01:15:17,892
Speaker 3: camp right that you You just to get the international license.

1567
01:15:17,933 --> 01:15:19,293
Speaker 3: You don't have to do a physical test.

1568
01:15:19,973 --> 01:15:22,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, someone said, because that's what it's called in the

1569
01:15:22,412 --> 01:15:25,372
Speaker 2: road code, you muppets. Yeah I know, but you get

1570
01:15:25,372 --> 01:15:28,452
Speaker 2: my point that when people tell you how what words

1571
01:15:28,452 --> 01:15:30,852
Speaker 2: to use to describe something, your heckles can get up.

1572
01:15:30,933 --> 01:15:31,133
Speaker 21: Yeah.

1573
01:15:31,173 --> 01:15:32,972
Speaker 3: We were just pushing back on if.

1574
01:15:32,933 --> 01:15:34,532
Speaker 2: You call it fast lane and then four hundred people

1575
01:15:34,532 --> 01:15:36,333
Speaker 2: say it's not a fast lane, it's a passing lane.

1576
01:15:36,372 --> 01:15:40,093
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, my first reaction to that being

1577
01:15:40,093 --> 01:15:43,213
Speaker 2: a contrarian as don't tell me how to speak. But

1578
01:15:43,253 --> 01:15:45,572
Speaker 2: when Darren rings up and logically explains why it should

1579
01:15:45,572 --> 01:15:47,892
Speaker 2: be called the passing lane, then then look, you know

1580
01:15:47,933 --> 01:15:48,333
Speaker 2: your point?

1581
01:15:48,452 --> 01:15:48,692
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1582
01:15:48,893 --> 01:15:53,852
Speaker 3: All right, Hey, so yeah, your muppet take that. Hey,

1583
01:15:54,133 --> 01:15:58,133
Speaker 3: coming up, just after we play some messages, escalator guy

1584
01:15:58,133 --> 01:16:01,452
Speaker 3: has come back to us and explained, Okay, where all

1585
01:16:01,492 --> 01:16:02,852
Speaker 3: these fingers and toes are coming from?

1586
01:16:02,893 --> 01:16:04,333
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is going to be good, all right,

1587
01:16:04,572 --> 01:16:06,732
Speaker 2: because because I contend that there's not a lot of

1588
01:16:06,732 --> 01:16:09,973
Speaker 2: people losing fingers and tones escalators again, Wow, but a

1589
01:16:10,013 --> 01:16:12,893
Speaker 2: person that's pulled some fingers and toes out of escalators

1590
01:16:13,173 --> 01:16:14,053
Speaker 2: is disagreeing with me.

1591
01:16:14,213 --> 01:16:17,932
Speaker 1: It is eight to three the issues that affect you,

1592
01:16:18,213 --> 01:16:19,692
Speaker 1: and a bit of fun along the way.

1593
01:16:19,933 --> 01:16:23,132
Speaker 8: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News Talk.

1594
01:16:22,933 --> 01:16:23,333
Speaker 20: Said, be.

1595
01:16:24,973 --> 01:16:27,492
Speaker 3: It is five to two three a.

1596
01:16:27,492 --> 01:16:29,932
Speaker 2: Tie, lady, I believe, and this is a We've got

1597
01:16:29,973 --> 01:16:32,532
Speaker 2: two subjects going on. My saying that I think that

1598
01:16:32,572 --> 01:16:35,012
Speaker 2: we don't need to be told to be careful on escalators, yes,

1599
01:16:35,053 --> 01:16:37,372
Speaker 2: and a pushback from a lot of people saying that

1600
01:16:37,412 --> 01:16:40,812
Speaker 2: there's fingers and toes being ripped off constantly. This Texas says,

1601
01:16:41,013 --> 01:16:44,692
Speaker 2: I believe ENTI Thailand Airport, a woman had her entire

1602
01:16:44,772 --> 01:16:47,653
Speaker 2: leg sucked in by the escalator and had to be amputated.

1603
01:16:48,013 --> 01:16:51,492
Speaker 2: I believe the articles in the Daily Mail earlier this year.

1604
01:16:52,333 --> 01:16:55,253
Speaker 2: Then I'm paranoid, especially with children. I just don't understand

1605
01:16:55,293 --> 01:16:57,652
Speaker 2: how the it's got the slightly bit that's down. But

1606
01:16:58,093 --> 01:17:00,772
Speaker 2: I think anything those horror stories you steal is when

1607
01:17:00,812 --> 01:17:05,852
Speaker 2: it's a rubbish, cheap and effect of put together escalator

1608
01:17:05,893 --> 01:17:08,213
Speaker 2: that the steer brakes and you fall into the working

1609
01:17:08,652 --> 01:17:09,732
Speaker 2: for example.

1610
01:17:09,372 --> 01:17:11,452
Speaker 3: If there's a gap down the bottom where some of

1611
01:17:11,492 --> 01:17:14,333
Speaker 3: the cheaper escalators might have a gap, but otherwise.

1612
01:17:14,173 --> 01:17:16,852
Speaker 2: Yeah, well sometimes I guess maybe the actual step could

1613
01:17:16,893 --> 01:17:21,173
Speaker 2: fall in. But that Textas says, it's surprisingly common for

1614
01:17:21,253 --> 01:17:23,973
Speaker 2: accidents to happen. It is a maintenance as you if

1615
01:17:24,013 --> 01:17:25,772
Speaker 2: you see a missing tooth on a steer, that is

1616
01:17:26,133 --> 01:17:28,692
Speaker 2: that is the cause more than two missing teeth and

1617
01:17:28,732 --> 01:17:32,092
Speaker 2: you're in trouble. Also, some of the cheaper escalators installed

1618
01:17:32,093 --> 01:17:34,492
Speaker 2: are even more dangerous. People lose fingers when they trip.

1619
01:17:34,612 --> 01:17:37,853
Speaker 2: Also that it takes some time for escalators or travelators

1620
01:17:37,853 --> 01:17:40,892
Speaker 2: to stop as they are heavy beasts. Yeah okay really

1621
01:17:41,053 --> 01:17:45,052
Speaker 2: but Okay, look a couple of things. The Auckland Airport

1622
01:17:45,173 --> 01:17:49,213
Speaker 2: escalator is absolute top of the range escalator. They spend

1623
01:17:49,293 --> 01:17:52,093
Speaker 2: billions on running their airport as smoothly as they do. Yep,

1624
01:17:52,372 --> 01:17:54,093
Speaker 2: I don't think it's one of those ones where you're

1625
01:17:54,093 --> 01:17:55,532
Speaker 2: going to get sucked in and lose your leg.

1626
01:17:55,853 --> 01:17:58,293
Speaker 3: No, it's not a death trap. And I've never seen

1627
01:17:58,333 --> 01:18:00,573
Speaker 3: teeth on an escalator. I've got to say like that

1628
01:18:00,572 --> 01:18:03,692
Speaker 3: that text A said, but thank you very much.

1629
01:18:04,812 --> 01:18:06,053
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, what were you going to say?

1630
01:18:06,133 --> 01:18:08,052
Speaker 3: I was going to say, should we should we carry

1631
01:18:08,053 --> 01:18:11,173
Speaker 3: this one on one hundred eighty ten and eighty news

1632
01:18:11,253 --> 01:18:12,933
Speaker 3: is fast approaching, but we want to hear from you.

1633
01:18:13,053 --> 01:18:16,772
Speaker 3: So the old right lane kiwis apparently don't understand that

1634
01:18:16,853 --> 01:18:18,612
Speaker 3: rule that if you are in the right lane of

1635
01:18:18,652 --> 01:18:21,572
Speaker 3: a multi lane highway that is the passing lane or

1636
01:18:21,692 --> 01:18:23,812
Speaker 3: fast lane, whatever you want to call. It's a keen

1637
01:18:23,893 --> 01:18:25,892
Speaker 3: to get your view on there. But also, is it

1638
01:18:25,973 --> 01:18:29,412
Speaker 3: time we introduce refresher courses when it comes to driving.

1639
01:18:29,173 --> 01:18:31,013
Speaker 2: And what would you want those to be? What you

1640
01:18:31,013 --> 01:18:32,892
Speaker 2: want on those refresher courses? And we'll try and move

1641
01:18:32,893 --> 01:18:34,572
Speaker 2: away from the escalator thing, because I think they became

1642
01:18:34,612 --> 01:18:37,053
Speaker 2: a side issue and confused to still what's interesting though,

1643
01:18:37,133 --> 01:18:39,852
Speaker 2: particularly me new sport and weather coming up, great debut

1644
01:18:39,893 --> 01:18:41,173
Speaker 2: company as always.

1645
01:18:43,053 --> 01:18:46,053
Speaker 8: Your new home are insateful and entertaining.

1646
01:18:46,133 --> 01:18:51,532
Speaker 1: Talk It's Mattie and Taylor Adams afternoons on News Talk sebby.

1647
01:18:51,973 --> 01:18:55,372
Speaker 3: Welcome back into the shelters seven Pass three and having

1648
01:18:55,412 --> 01:18:59,812
Speaker 3: a great discussion about passing lanes. Kiwis apparently don't know

1649
01:18:59,853 --> 01:19:02,093
Speaker 3: how to use them. And if you want to call

1650
01:19:02,133 --> 01:19:04,293
Speaker 3: it the fast lane, you're more than welcome. But we

1651
01:19:04,333 --> 01:19:06,372
Speaker 3: did ever call it before the news that made a

1652
01:19:06,372 --> 01:19:08,652
Speaker 3: fair argument on what they call passing lanes, not the

1653
01:19:08,692 --> 01:19:09,372
Speaker 3: fast lane.

1654
01:19:09,492 --> 01:19:12,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're talking about multiple lane motorways here. We're

1655
01:19:12,293 --> 01:19:13,652
Speaker 2: not talking about that thing. When you're driving line and

1656
01:19:13,692 --> 01:19:16,013
Speaker 2: they say there's a passing lane coming up in two kilometers, Yeah,

1657
01:19:16,572 --> 01:19:19,293
Speaker 2: obviously that's a passing line. Yeah, clearly. But the thing

1658
01:19:19,372 --> 01:19:21,293
Speaker 2: is if you're in that far right lane, in the

1659
01:19:21,452 --> 01:19:25,692
Speaker 2: right hand lane, then you are there to pass and

1660
01:19:25,732 --> 01:19:27,013
Speaker 2: then you get back into the middle lane. Yeah, you

1661
01:19:27,053 --> 01:19:29,412
Speaker 2: don't live in there, easy as life in the fast

1662
01:19:29,492 --> 01:19:32,492
Speaker 2: lane guaranteed to get yourself a ticket. Well you won't actually,

1663
01:19:32,492 --> 01:19:34,652
Speaker 2: but apparently you can get ticketed for that for just

1664
01:19:34,652 --> 01:19:37,053
Speaker 2: sitting in the fast lane as you should in the

1665
01:19:37,093 --> 01:19:41,692
Speaker 2: passing lane. And apologies to everyone for completely derailing last

1666
01:19:41,973 --> 01:19:44,172
Speaker 2: hours chat. That's why I've had to continue this conversation

1667
01:19:44,213 --> 01:19:47,652
Speaker 2: onto this hour because I got too focused on escalators.

1668
01:19:47,973 --> 01:19:50,372
Speaker 3: But there was a texture that said, guys, you need

1669
01:19:50,412 --> 01:19:52,892
Speaker 3: devosition on escalators. As I have been listening to you

1670
01:19:52,973 --> 01:19:55,372
Speaker 3: this afternoon, it's been a great topic, but I'd love

1671
01:19:55,412 --> 01:19:56,892
Speaker 3: to hear more about escalators so well.

1672
01:19:56,893 --> 01:19:59,372
Speaker 2: This person said, guys, it's the shoelaces of kids that

1673
01:19:59,412 --> 01:20:01,692
Speaker 2: can get caught in the side gaps of escalators. I'm

1674
01:20:01,692 --> 01:20:04,253
Speaker 2: always at my son to keep clear. I have PTSD

1675
01:20:04,372 --> 01:20:05,972
Speaker 2: from when I was a kid and took the family

1676
01:20:06,013 --> 01:20:08,892
Speaker 2: cat for a walk with fishing line the lead. The

1677
01:20:08,933 --> 01:20:11,293
Speaker 2: cat took off with the fishing line dragging behind, and

1678
01:20:11,333 --> 01:20:13,412
Speaker 2: then it got caught and all I remember is a

1679
01:20:13,492 --> 01:20:18,293
Speaker 2: choking core of food. That had to stick my hand

1680
01:20:18,372 --> 01:20:20,412
Speaker 2: in with a pair of scissors to cut the line

1681
01:20:20,692 --> 01:20:23,572
Speaker 2: that had tightened around its throat. My hand got mangled

1682
01:20:23,572 --> 01:20:25,652
Speaker 2: from the cat, but I managed to cut the line free.

1683
01:20:25,893 --> 01:20:28,813
Speaker 2: Hence the difficulty with escalators in small moving gap Steve.

1684
01:20:28,853 --> 01:20:30,732
Speaker 3: Fair enough, Steve, I mean, if you went through that

1685
01:20:30,732 --> 01:20:36,133
Speaker 3: sort of trauma. You know, no judgment there, No judgment.

1686
01:20:35,812 --> 01:20:37,452
Speaker 2: There, Darli, you shouldn't laugh at Oh.

1687
01:20:37,333 --> 01:20:39,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was walking his cat with the fishing line.

1688
01:20:39,893 --> 01:20:42,213
Speaker 3: Well yeah, come on, just give him a break here, mate.

1689
01:20:42,253 --> 01:20:44,532
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right, Well let's put the escalators to bed,

1690
01:20:44,572 --> 01:20:45,133
Speaker 2: all right for now?

1691
01:20:45,213 --> 01:20:46,812
Speaker 3: Yeah, we might do that another day. But O eight

1692
01:20:46,812 --> 01:20:50,173
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Allen,

1693
01:20:50,253 --> 01:20:51,812
Speaker 3: you want to talk about refresher courses.

1694
01:20:52,772 --> 01:20:56,652
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know whether you're aware, but I've driven

1695
01:20:56,692 --> 01:20:58,773
Speaker 4: quite a lot in the UK and also in Australia.

1696
01:20:58,812 --> 01:21:01,333
Speaker 4: But in the UK, if you get a speeding ticket,

1697
01:21:01,412 --> 01:21:06,412
Speaker 4: you get the option of demerit points or attending a refresher.

1698
01:21:05,973 --> 01:21:07,492
Speaker 2: Course, right right.

1699
01:21:07,612 --> 01:21:08,652
Speaker 3: Seems like a good idea.

1700
01:21:09,492 --> 01:21:11,732
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you have to book it online and they're

1701
01:21:11,772 --> 01:21:13,532
Speaker 4: all around the place. I mean someone like the AA

1702
01:21:13,612 --> 01:21:15,692
Speaker 4: could easily run it. But I mean it gives you

1703
01:21:15,692 --> 01:21:17,452
Speaker 4: the option. I mean some people to say our buggert

1704
01:21:17,452 --> 01:21:18,053
Speaker 4: obvers take these.

1705
01:21:18,372 --> 01:21:20,532
Speaker 2: You know that seems that gets sort of the idea

1706
01:21:20,532 --> 01:21:25,093
Speaker 2: that it's just revenue generation, doesn't it, because you because

1707
01:21:25,133 --> 01:21:28,412
Speaker 2: you're saying, well, you know, really, we're we're finding people

1708
01:21:28,492 --> 01:21:30,652
Speaker 2: to make the better drivers so the roads are safer,

1709
01:21:30,893 --> 01:21:33,172
Speaker 2: so if you have the opportunity to get educated. Although,

1710
01:21:33,253 --> 01:21:34,933
Speaker 2: as I said on my show, when I got a

1711
01:21:35,093 --> 01:21:37,333
Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy dollars ticket for driving fifty one

1712
01:21:37,412 --> 01:21:39,812
Speaker 2: kilometers an hour over Hopetown Bridge because they've lowered the

1713
01:21:39,812 --> 01:21:42,253
Speaker 2: speed limit of thirty, no refresher course is going to

1714
01:21:42,253 --> 01:21:45,333
Speaker 2: make me think that's the right law. So you know,

1715
01:21:45,333 --> 01:21:47,053
Speaker 2: it wouldn't work for me on that particular law.

1716
01:21:47,173 --> 01:21:49,133
Speaker 3: We'll take the demerits over refresher on that one.

1717
01:21:49,173 --> 01:21:52,133
Speaker 2: But Ellen, if you've been hogging the you know, the

1718
01:21:52,173 --> 01:21:54,412
Speaker 2: passing lane and not moving in, then that would be

1719
01:21:54,452 --> 01:21:56,052
Speaker 2: you know, the refresher course makes a lot of sense.

1720
01:21:57,093 --> 01:21:59,612
Speaker 4: Well, that's right. And of course in Australia, you know

1721
01:21:59,772 --> 01:22:05,012
Speaker 4: the parking ticket, well, the tickets are much more expensive.

1722
01:22:05,053 --> 01:22:07,132
Speaker 4: I think I had one for three hundred and fifty

1723
01:22:07,133 --> 01:22:08,852
Speaker 4: eight dollars for kem.

1724
01:22:08,772 --> 01:22:10,012
Speaker 17: K over the speed limit.

1725
01:22:10,692 --> 01:22:13,333
Speaker 4: You know, so you shouldn't moan here. And of course

1726
01:22:13,372 --> 01:22:17,932
Speaker 4: the Australians, from my observation, don't understand flashing lights. They

1727
01:22:18,013 --> 01:22:20,133
Speaker 4: take it as aggression, so you'd probably get your lights

1728
01:22:20,133 --> 01:22:20,652
Speaker 4: punched out.

1729
01:22:21,013 --> 01:22:23,932
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got to be I always think about that.

1730
01:22:23,973 --> 01:22:25,652
Speaker 2: But people have got to be very careful when they

1731
01:22:25,732 --> 01:22:28,812
Speaker 2: try and be road vigilantes or or police the roads,

1732
01:22:28,853 --> 01:22:31,732
Speaker 2: because you never know what that person is in front

1733
01:22:31,732 --> 01:22:32,013
Speaker 2: of you.

1734
01:22:32,093 --> 01:22:32,333
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1735
01:22:32,333 --> 01:22:34,013
Speaker 2: I mean they might have been for five days on

1736
01:22:34,133 --> 01:22:36,612
Speaker 2: myth and that's why they're driving so badly. Next thing,

1737
01:22:36,612 --> 01:22:38,692
Speaker 2: you know, you flash your lights and they're coming at

1738
01:22:38,692 --> 01:22:40,812
Speaker 2: you with a tyre on or chasing you here.

1739
01:22:41,732 --> 01:22:42,133
Speaker 5: That's right.

1740
01:22:42,173 --> 01:22:45,133
Speaker 4: I have some sympathy for the escalator one, but I'll

1741
01:22:45,213 --> 01:22:47,812
Speaker 4: give you a different one for infant what do they

1742
01:22:47,893 --> 01:22:48,133
Speaker 4: call it?

1743
01:22:48,253 --> 01:22:48,612
Speaker 12: Done and.

1744
01:22:50,572 --> 01:22:53,932
Speaker 4: Fantalizing? You do you go to the supermarket and you've

1745
01:22:54,253 --> 01:22:58,092
Speaker 4: just paid for your stuff, and you constantly get don't

1746
01:22:58,133 --> 01:23:00,892
Speaker 4: forget your stuff, don't forget your stuff?

1747
01:23:01,013 --> 01:23:01,732
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

1748
01:23:02,013 --> 01:23:05,652
Speaker 4: Yeah, while you're still packing your bags and they're saying,

1749
01:23:05,732 --> 01:23:07,012
Speaker 4: don't forget your goods?

1750
01:23:07,133 --> 01:23:11,013
Speaker 3: You know, account operator? Yeah that is that does my

1751
01:23:11,093 --> 01:23:11,412
Speaker 3: head it?

1752
01:23:12,572 --> 01:23:15,732
Speaker 2: All right, have a good day, go thanks you call alam. Yeah,

1753
01:23:15,772 --> 01:23:19,333
Speaker 2: if we run a one. Two topics things about infantin

1754
01:23:19,412 --> 01:23:22,812
Speaker 2: infantalization of society. Yeah, I know I said that I

1755
01:23:22,853 --> 01:23:26,213
Speaker 2: wouldn't keep it down the escalator route. But those moments

1756
01:23:26,213 --> 01:23:31,173
Speaker 2: in society where you're being told for something constantly, the safetyization,

1757
01:23:31,293 --> 01:23:34,932
Speaker 2: the infantilization where you have been treated like a child constantly,

1758
01:23:34,973 --> 01:23:37,372
Speaker 2: because I think that makes humans less competent and leads

1759
01:23:37,412 --> 01:23:42,253
Speaker 2: to more more problems and people having worse outcomes because

1760
01:23:42,253 --> 01:23:43,652
Speaker 2: they become completely useless.

1761
01:23:43,772 --> 01:23:46,852
Speaker 3: I've got one for you, Yeah, coffee, takeaway coffee when

1762
01:23:46,853 --> 01:23:50,093
Speaker 3: it sees caution hot on the lid. Of course we

1763
01:23:50,133 --> 01:23:53,173
Speaker 3: know it's frickin hot. Oh eight one hundred and eighty

1764
01:23:53,173 --> 01:23:55,572
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call. And if you

1765
01:23:55,612 --> 01:23:57,372
Speaker 3: want to send a text, nine two nine two is

1766
01:23:57,452 --> 01:24:00,093
Speaker 3: the text number. It is twelve past three. Bearey surely

1767
01:24:00,093 --> 01:24:04,452
Speaker 3: here on news talks areb afternoon. It is fourteen pass three.

1768
01:24:04,612 --> 01:24:08,213
Speaker 3: Do we need refresher driving courses in New Zealand? And

1769
01:24:08,372 --> 01:24:11,132
Speaker 3: if we do, what do we need to refresh ourselves

1770
01:24:11,173 --> 01:24:11,372
Speaker 3: up on?

1771
01:24:11,732 --> 01:24:14,053
Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely so, says come. I met easy to solve

1772
01:24:14,093 --> 01:24:16,333
Speaker 2: the problem taser anyone in the right lane, not a

1773
01:24:16,412 --> 01:24:20,173
Speaker 2: passing another car, regards Jamie. Hard to do that. I'm

1774
01:24:20,213 --> 01:24:22,932
Speaker 2: just pulling up beside them from the middle lane and tasering.

1775
01:24:23,013 --> 01:24:24,732
Speaker 2: The window might be down. I mean, I think there's

1776
01:24:24,772 --> 01:24:26,333
Speaker 2: a lot of fish walks in that idea. I get

1777
01:24:26,333 --> 01:24:27,493
Speaker 2: the sentiment, Jamie.

1778
01:24:27,333 --> 01:24:29,572
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, don't pull back on the right now. I

1779
01:24:29,612 --> 01:24:30,973
Speaker 3: mean that's got some you know.

1780
01:24:31,133 --> 01:24:33,612
Speaker 2: Leaks to it, that idea, Sheila, Welcome to the show.

1781
01:24:35,893 --> 01:24:38,892
Speaker 3: Hello, Hello, how are you all right?

1782
01:24:38,973 --> 01:24:39,852
Speaker 21: Are you speaking to shoot it?

1783
01:24:40,213 --> 01:24:41,452
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1784
01:24:41,973 --> 01:24:43,812
Speaker 21: Yeah, I just couldn't hear you. Can you put your

1785
01:24:43,853 --> 01:24:44,333
Speaker 21: volume up?

1786
01:24:44,412 --> 01:24:46,452
Speaker 3: But please, we certainly can, Sheila. How's that?

1787
01:24:46,652 --> 01:24:47,852
Speaker 15: How's that much better?

1788
01:24:47,893 --> 01:24:48,293
Speaker 21: Thank you?

1789
01:24:48,572 --> 01:24:49,052
Speaker 3: Not a problem?

1790
01:24:49,093 --> 01:24:51,532
Speaker 21: Now. What I wanted to tell you was probably not

1791
01:24:52,013 --> 01:24:56,173
Speaker 21: quite relevant to the topic, but worth listening to. I

1792
01:24:56,213 --> 01:24:59,613
Speaker 21: think my husband came out to New Zealand from Scotland

1793
01:25:00,133 --> 01:25:08,692
Speaker 21: and brought the very first international driver's license diploma issued

1794
01:25:08,732 --> 01:25:11,053
Speaker 21: in Scofflin to New Zealand. He was the only one

1795
01:25:11,093 --> 01:25:13,772
Speaker 21: that had it. The police keep pulling him over all

1796
01:25:13,812 --> 01:25:16,412
Speaker 21: the time to drunk driving because he was driving too well,

1797
01:25:18,093 --> 01:25:20,892
Speaker 21: and then when he showed us diploma, they just sort of, oh.

1798
01:25:20,812 --> 01:25:22,293
Speaker 3: My goodness, so he wasn't drunk.

1799
01:25:23,372 --> 01:25:25,253
Speaker 2: How do you How do you drive so well that

1800
01:25:25,293 --> 01:25:26,092
Speaker 2: you appear drunk?

1801
01:25:27,853 --> 01:25:28,093
Speaker 13: Well?

1802
01:25:28,213 --> 01:25:31,213
Speaker 21: He had a PhD in backseat driving. Believe me, I

1803
01:25:31,333 --> 01:25:33,372
Speaker 21: put him off and swans and road once in stead walk.

1804
01:25:33,732 --> 01:25:38,333
Speaker 3: Okay, so tell us about this diploma. I take it.

1805
01:25:38,372 --> 01:25:40,612
Speaker 3: Do they still give out this diploma for good driving?

1806
01:25:41,013 --> 01:25:41,173
Speaker 22: Oh?

1807
01:25:41,812 --> 01:25:42,012
Speaker 8: No?

1808
01:25:42,053 --> 01:25:44,852
Speaker 21: It's not for good driving, you've got to sit a test.

1809
01:25:45,133 --> 01:25:47,372
Speaker 21: I've done the driving course, but it was no one

1810
01:25:47,452 --> 01:25:49,852
Speaker 21: to take men. I didn't want to do the diplomer anyway.

1811
01:25:50,173 --> 01:25:51,852
Speaker 21: Oh they don't give it out for good driving.

1812
01:25:51,893 --> 01:25:54,293
Speaker 3: My god, Oh I thought it was an award. I

1813
01:25:54,293 --> 01:25:54,972
Speaker 3: thought it was wrong.

1814
01:25:55,293 --> 01:26:00,612
Speaker 21: Okay, right, advanced to Boploma and driving it's really tough, mate, Wow,

1815
01:26:00,772 --> 01:26:02,333
Speaker 21: it really is.

1816
01:26:02,333 --> 01:26:03,452
Speaker 2: Is it still a thing you can do?

1817
01:26:04,293 --> 01:26:06,572
Speaker 21: I think it is. I'm not sure about that because

1818
01:26:06,572 --> 01:26:09,892
Speaker 21: I've done the course and say a few times wow.

1819
01:26:10,532 --> 01:26:13,333
Speaker 21: But we were coming round towards the city once from

1820
01:26:13,372 --> 01:26:17,012
Speaker 21: the north Shore, and about ten seconds before we turned

1821
01:26:17,013 --> 01:26:21,612
Speaker 21: the spand I sensed the tenseness and I thought, oh something,

1822
01:26:21,853 --> 01:26:24,133
Speaker 21: put my hand on my seat belt and on our

1823
01:26:24,213 --> 01:26:27,572
Speaker 21: daughter's seat belt, and we came into an oil slick.

1824
01:26:27,973 --> 01:26:31,692
Speaker 21: A truck had just up ended its petrol Please buy

1825
01:26:31,732 --> 01:26:33,732
Speaker 21: an ambulance of them putting out the cones into quick

1826
01:26:33,732 --> 01:26:38,012
Speaker 21: as possible. We went right into it, and I thought,

1827
01:26:38,053 --> 01:26:41,812
Speaker 21: that's us. She goes out the window first. And I'm

1828
01:26:41,893 --> 01:26:45,892
Speaker 21: telling you, we must have missed that bridge that hit

1829
01:26:46,013 --> 01:26:49,812
Speaker 21: with the tire by a couple of centimeters. His driving

1830
01:26:49,933 --> 01:26:54,573
Speaker 21: was so superb we turned around and saved ourselves.

1831
01:26:54,572 --> 01:26:55,492
Speaker 2: He did, Wow.

1832
01:26:55,572 --> 01:26:59,852
Speaker 21: We got out of the car, of course, stress and everything.

1833
01:27:01,293 --> 01:27:04,572
Speaker 21: He said too that it was we all. Sergeant there

1834
01:27:04,893 --> 01:27:08,452
Speaker 21: go to give me a checket for bad driving and

1835
01:27:08,572 --> 01:27:11,932
Speaker 21: read on and one of them and the said, stop it, leves,

1836
01:27:11,973 --> 01:27:15,093
Speaker 21: stop it, stop it, stop it. I've never seen such

1837
01:27:15,173 --> 01:27:19,372
Speaker 21: driving in my life, really years in the force.

1838
01:27:19,532 --> 01:27:22,173
Speaker 2: So the police officer was like, or traffic office was like,

1839
01:27:22,213 --> 01:27:24,173
Speaker 2: that is such good driving I've never seen.

1840
01:27:24,333 --> 01:27:27,732
Speaker 21: Yeah, wow, and outcomes of diploma.

1841
01:27:28,933 --> 01:27:30,253
Speaker 3: It's a good thing to carry around with you.

1842
01:27:32,133 --> 01:27:36,333
Speaker 21: I don't because I don't have it, but I a

1843
01:27:36,412 --> 01:27:40,253
Speaker 21: couple of years ago I decided to do it, you know,

1844
01:27:40,333 --> 01:27:42,692
Speaker 21: just an ordinary driving course to see how I was going.

1845
01:27:43,213 --> 01:27:45,652
Speaker 21: And I got the sky I won't say what culture,

1846
01:27:46,372 --> 01:27:49,572
Speaker 21: and he was very busy giving me instructions. I said,

1847
01:27:49,572 --> 01:27:53,053
Speaker 21: you're wrong. The road rules a lot like that. I

1848
01:27:53,213 --> 01:27:55,812
Speaker 21: was right. So we get up to Matthey and west

1849
01:27:55,853 --> 01:27:59,812
Speaker 21: Auckland and he gives me an instruction and I said,

1850
01:27:59,893 --> 01:28:03,932
Speaker 21: I own this car, I own the insurance, I own

1851
01:28:03,973 --> 01:28:06,972
Speaker 21: the license, and that's a dangerous maneuver. I'm not doing it.

1852
01:28:07,213 --> 01:28:11,173
Speaker 3: Wownds, Yeah, what what excuse me?

1853
01:28:11,333 --> 01:28:14,452
Speaker 2: Neds? What does that mean National Advanced Drivers School.

1854
01:28:14,612 --> 01:28:16,092
Speaker 3: Ah, right, that's the diplomber.

1855
01:28:16,213 --> 01:28:18,052
Speaker 2: Yeah what do you think I meant by nads?

1856
01:28:19,612 --> 01:28:22,573
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Luke, welcome.

1857
01:28:22,333 --> 01:28:22,732
Speaker 2: To the show.

1858
01:28:23,652 --> 01:28:25,572
Speaker 5: Oh good, so let's say you very good.

1859
01:28:25,692 --> 01:28:26,372
Speaker 3: What's your take on this?

1860
01:28:27,812 --> 01:28:31,973
Speaker 5: Well, obviously ours like thank you for bringing out the

1861
01:28:31,973 --> 01:28:34,253
Speaker 5: story of the cat with the nylons getting stuck in

1862
01:28:34,293 --> 01:28:37,293
Speaker 5: the escalator. I can only imagine how Matt would have

1863
01:28:37,293 --> 01:28:40,692
Speaker 5: dealt with their situation. Hey, let's come to mind.

1864
01:28:40,492 --> 01:28:44,293
Speaker 2: But we won't, Luke, let's not go into my failed

1865
01:28:44,293 --> 01:28:47,693
Speaker 2: attempts of you euthanizing a cat that has been widely parblicized.

1866
01:28:48,772 --> 01:28:52,052
Speaker 3: He has mentioned that once on this program and never again.

1867
01:28:52,133 --> 01:28:52,333
Speaker 4: Luke.

1868
01:28:52,412 --> 01:28:54,772
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, good, good good.

1869
01:28:55,013 --> 01:28:57,812
Speaker 2: Their heads are very very connected on way more than

1870
01:28:57,812 --> 01:28:59,333
Speaker 2: you think they would be anyway, Luke, what were you

1871
01:28:59,333 --> 01:29:00,932
Speaker 2: going to say?

1872
01:29:02,973 --> 01:29:04,772
Speaker 5: No, just traffic chair is so good. It's one of

1873
01:29:04,853 --> 01:29:07,532
Speaker 5: my favorite things to sit down here in Raglan, cruising

1874
01:29:07,532 --> 01:29:11,412
Speaker 5: along without any traffic or anything, and here the traffic

1875
01:29:11,452 --> 01:29:14,852
Speaker 5: reports that come on and to have a whole show

1876
01:29:14,933 --> 01:29:17,692
Speaker 5: a two hours talking about traffic just has really made

1877
01:29:17,732 --> 01:29:20,692
Speaker 5: my dam coming down with the flu and this is

1878
01:29:20,772 --> 01:29:21,972
Speaker 5: just getting me through the day.

1879
01:29:22,253 --> 01:29:22,932
Speaker 16: So thank.

1880
01:29:24,452 --> 01:29:27,572
Speaker 5: Yeah. I'm a middle lane driver though, like it's sumany

1881
01:29:27,652 --> 01:29:30,333
Speaker 5: k because I'm freaking out which lane to get in

1882
01:29:30,333 --> 01:29:32,572
Speaker 5: in case there's a right hand exit. I think there's

1883
01:29:32,572 --> 01:29:36,932
Speaker 5: one in the country, but that's what I'm doing.

1884
01:29:37,133 --> 01:29:38,652
Speaker 2: You never know where that one's going to pop up.

1885
01:29:40,372 --> 01:29:43,013
Speaker 2: That one right hand exit could just appear in any time.

1886
01:29:43,893 --> 01:29:45,572
Speaker 5: It's happened before. I think I ended up and fun

1887
01:29:45,652 --> 01:29:47,612
Speaker 5: today when I was trying to get to sort of

1888
01:29:47,652 --> 01:29:53,652
Speaker 5: the north Shore and what was I going to say? Yeah,

1889
01:29:53,692 --> 01:29:57,452
Speaker 5: the traffic chat. I've been trying to figure out a

1890
01:29:57,492 --> 01:30:01,053
Speaker 5: way to frame this. The traffic reports. You know, when

1891
01:30:01,093 --> 01:30:05,372
Speaker 5: you get out it's heavy it is heavy flows and dah.

1892
01:30:05,293 --> 01:30:06,172
Speaker 16: Da da da da.

1893
01:30:06,213 --> 01:30:08,572
Speaker 5: And I'm starting to wonder if the people don't those

1894
01:30:08,612 --> 01:30:12,293
Speaker 5: reports are having to go, like really pushing the boundary

1895
01:30:12,412 --> 01:30:16,572
Speaker 5: of like a reference how do you say it? Like No,

1896
01:30:16,652 --> 01:30:18,492
Speaker 5: it's got to do with a woman and a time

1897
01:30:18,532 --> 01:30:21,812
Speaker 5: of the month, right sort of listening, Yeah, and have

1898
01:30:21,933 --> 01:30:23,372
Speaker 5: a listen. I don't know if they're having to go,

1899
01:30:23,452 --> 01:30:27,612
Speaker 5: if they're pushing the boundary, I like someone to that broadcasting. Okay,

1900
01:30:27,652 --> 01:30:28,812
Speaker 5: so just keeping it here out.

1901
01:30:28,692 --> 01:30:30,133
Speaker 2: For that one. Yeah, Well thanks to your call. Look

1902
01:30:30,133 --> 01:30:32,412
Speaker 2: from Braggs. We'll listen out for that. Yeah, thanks, you

1903
01:30:32,452 --> 01:30:34,813
Speaker 2: are broadcasting standards authority of complaint.

1904
01:30:35,013 --> 01:30:37,452
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think that's what they're alluding to, but

1905
01:30:37,772 --> 01:30:40,892
Speaker 3: you know, we'll keep a watch on that. One eighty

1906
01:30:40,933 --> 01:30:43,412
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call. We'll take a

1907
01:30:43,452 --> 01:30:46,132
Speaker 3: quick break and we'll pick this back up very shortly.

1908
01:30:46,293 --> 01:30:48,333
Speaker 2: And there has been a suggestion that you can just

1909
01:30:48,412 --> 01:30:50,253
Speaker 2: land in New Zealand and just drive around in your

1910
01:30:50,293 --> 01:30:52,412
Speaker 2: driver's license and it's all sweet as yeah. Right, So

1911
01:30:52,452 --> 01:30:54,852
Speaker 2: I've actually done some research and I found out what

1912
01:30:54,893 --> 01:30:57,412
Speaker 2: the rules are for arriving in New Zealand, whether your

1913
01:30:57,532 --> 01:31:01,213
Speaker 2: license from where you come from is legit here or not.

1914
01:31:01,293 --> 01:31:02,852
Speaker 3: Okay, perfect, this is going to be good.

1915
01:31:02,853 --> 01:31:03,892
Speaker 2: I'll share those details.

1916
01:31:03,893 --> 01:31:12,013
Speaker 3: Twenty one past three, okay.

1917
01:31:09,933 --> 01:31:13,293
Speaker 1: Matt Heathan Tayler Adams afternoons call oh, eight hundred and

1918
01:31:13,372 --> 01:31:15,253
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on US Talk ZB.

1919
01:31:15,652 --> 01:31:19,932
Speaker 3: It is twenty four past three. Some great teas coming through.

1920
01:31:20,013 --> 01:31:21,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't want to take a bait

1921
01:31:21,133 --> 01:31:23,213
Speaker 2: to escalators. We tried to move on guys, people whose

1922
01:31:23,253 --> 01:31:25,013
Speaker 2: legs stop working as soon as they step on an

1923
01:31:25,133 --> 01:31:28,053
Speaker 2: escalator and then they don't stay left. The solution is

1924
01:31:28,053 --> 01:31:31,293
Speaker 2: cattle prods and tasers easy. That's from Simon. Yeah, I

1925
01:31:31,293 --> 01:31:33,253
Speaker 2: mean people need to know that. When you're on an escalator,

1926
01:31:33,293 --> 01:31:35,492
Speaker 2: it's a totally different issue. But that's not a time

1927
01:31:35,532 --> 01:31:39,092
Speaker 2: to be lazy and just stand there. They're still stairs

1928
01:31:39,612 --> 01:31:41,692
Speaker 2: to make you go faster. They're fast steers, so it's

1929
01:31:41,692 --> 01:31:43,972
Speaker 2: an opportunity to get to the top quicker. You don't

1930
01:31:44,213 --> 01:31:47,852
Speaker 2: take a break, that's lazy. Don't stand still on the escalator.

1931
01:31:47,933 --> 01:31:50,173
Speaker 3: I'm with you, that's my head, you know, And.

1932
01:31:50,133 --> 01:31:52,892
Speaker 2: Definitely if you do stand to one side, ye, people,

1933
01:31:53,213 --> 01:31:56,012
Speaker 2: just what are you standing still an escalator?

1934
01:31:56,213 --> 01:31:56,652
Speaker 22: Are you?

1935
01:31:56,973 --> 01:31:58,532
Speaker 2: Are you going to live forever? Have you got that

1936
01:31:58,612 --> 01:32:01,013
Speaker 2: much time? You've been gifted the opportunity to get up

1937
01:32:01,053 --> 01:32:04,333
Speaker 2: some stairs faster. If someone think, you know, the good

1938
01:32:04,333 --> 01:32:07,532
Speaker 2: people of the airport or the or the mall or

1939
01:32:07,532 --> 01:32:10,652
Speaker 2: wherever you are, the public library are spending good money

1940
01:32:10,692 --> 01:32:15,652
Speaker 2: on electricity to move people faster and you just lazy, lazy.

1941
01:32:15,732 --> 01:32:18,173
Speaker 2: Look sure, if you can't for some reason why you

1942
01:32:18,213 --> 01:32:20,532
Speaker 2: can't walk on the escalator, absolutely, but if you're able

1943
01:32:20,572 --> 01:32:24,813
Speaker 2: bodied walk walk up the escalator by yourself.

1944
01:32:24,452 --> 01:32:26,612
Speaker 3: Some time, look behind you and see the queue you're

1945
01:32:26,612 --> 01:32:28,892
Speaker 3: holding up. That's what's wrong with productivity in this country?

1946
01:32:28,933 --> 01:32:33,333
Speaker 3: People not walking on the escalator anyway, we'll bring out

1947
01:32:33,452 --> 01:32:36,452
Speaker 3: escalators tomorrow maybe because we are talking about the right

1948
01:32:36,492 --> 01:32:40,732
Speaker 3: hand lane on our multi lane highways. And Rod is

1949
01:32:40,933 --> 01:32:42,772
Speaker 3: a former driving instructor, Is that right?

1950
01:32:42,812 --> 01:32:43,372
Speaker 2: Rod?

1951
01:32:44,612 --> 01:32:44,772
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1952
01:32:44,893 --> 01:32:45,492
Speaker 19: From here?

1953
01:32:45,933 --> 01:32:48,333
Speaker 3: Get a and you used to teach people how to drive?

1954
01:32:49,973 --> 01:32:50,892
Speaker 20: Yep, yep.

1955
01:32:51,013 --> 01:32:53,052
Speaker 3: And what do you reckon on this rule that Kiwis

1956
01:32:53,093 --> 01:32:54,532
Speaker 3: don't seem to follow.

1957
01:32:56,692 --> 01:33:01,492
Speaker 19: Oh, Kiwis are not the best drivers in the world.

1958
01:33:02,133 --> 01:33:07,492
Speaker 19: And there's a reason for it. Regular testing, proper tests

1959
01:33:08,853 --> 01:33:14,612
Speaker 19: was late coming to New Zealand. Testing or driving tests

1960
01:33:14,692 --> 01:33:18,692
Speaker 19: used to be taken by a police officer and that

1961
01:33:19,333 --> 01:33:22,253
Speaker 19: was dishchat to a police when every day by the

1962
01:33:22,333 --> 01:33:25,892
Speaker 19: duty sergeant. And it was not a job they enjoyed

1963
01:33:25,933 --> 01:33:30,293
Speaker 19: doing being testing officers. And you had a very four

1964
01:33:30,412 --> 01:33:34,812
Speaker 19: standard of people passing the tests. They're the parents of

1965
01:33:34,933 --> 01:33:39,892
Speaker 19: today's kids, they're the they're the ones that need to

1966
01:33:39,933 --> 01:33:42,612
Speaker 19: be tested. And a number of years ago when I

1967
01:33:42,732 --> 01:33:46,293
Speaker 19: was when I was still a COGOD instructor, I went

1968
01:33:46,372 --> 01:33:54,173
Speaker 19: to Parliament and saw uh yeah, politicians were along with

1969
01:33:54,173 --> 01:33:59,812
Speaker 19: the colleague and we tried to get testing renew renewing

1970
01:33:59,893 --> 01:34:06,412
Speaker 19: licenses on a simple basis that you they they will

1971
01:34:06,452 --> 01:34:09,612
Speaker 19: pay for everything, the fact that you you charge him

1972
01:34:09,692 --> 01:34:17,173
Speaker 19: for this every three five years in order to keep

1973
01:34:17,253 --> 01:34:20,293
Speaker 19: them up to date with what's happening out on the roads.

1974
01:34:21,093 --> 01:34:25,173
Speaker 19: Things have changed. We've gone from the days when the

1975
01:34:25,293 --> 01:34:32,293
Speaker 19: cars we're old English trailways who could barely really get

1976
01:34:32,372 --> 01:34:36,213
Speaker 19: up to a good fifty miles per hour, not p

1977
01:34:37,692 --> 01:34:44,093
Speaker 19: for per hour. Yeah, but more more than that, the

1978
01:34:44,652 --> 01:34:46,853
Speaker 19: drivers were given proper instruction.

1979
01:34:47,652 --> 01:34:50,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for your call, Rod, appreciate Rob. Yeah,

1980
01:34:50,412 --> 01:34:52,293
Speaker 2: cars are definitely a lot faster than they used to be.

1981
01:34:52,652 --> 01:34:53,612
Speaker 3: Absolutely. Yeah.

1982
01:34:53,692 --> 01:34:56,093
Speaker 2: Hey, so I was talking before about driver's licenses. You

1983
01:34:56,133 --> 01:34:58,333
Speaker 2: can drive on an overseas car license for up to

1984
01:34:58,372 --> 01:35:01,652
Speaker 2: eighteen months right when when you first get here? Okay, Yeah,

1985
01:35:01,853 --> 01:35:06,253
Speaker 2: if you're licenses from an exempt country such as Australia, Austria, Belgium,

1986
01:35:06,652 --> 01:35:12,812
Speaker 2: Canadat Canadia, Canadia, Denmark, France, Germany, Hong Kong Island, Italy, Japan, Netherlands, Norway,

1987
01:35:12,933 --> 01:35:16,412
Speaker 2: South Korea, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, UK or USA, and there

1988
01:35:16,412 --> 01:35:18,572
Speaker 2: are some others you can convert without taking any test,

1989
01:35:18,812 --> 01:35:21,412
Speaker 2: right like this, if you're not from in Hong Kong,

1990
01:35:21,452 --> 01:35:23,972
Speaker 2: did i say, that's another one. If you're not from

1991
01:35:23,973 --> 01:35:28,452
Speaker 2: those places, then for licenses from non exempt countries, you

1992
01:35:28,492 --> 01:35:30,452
Speaker 2: must pass the theory test based on the New Zealand

1993
01:35:30,492 --> 01:35:32,933
Speaker 2: Road Code and then an in car practical test. So

1994
01:35:32,973 --> 01:35:35,372
Speaker 2: if you're not from an exempt country, then you have

1995
01:35:35,452 --> 01:35:38,572
Speaker 2: to go through all the hoops to get a proper

1996
01:35:38,612 --> 01:35:40,852
Speaker 2: license in New Zealand, which makes New Zealand license right.

1997
01:35:40,933 --> 01:35:44,252
Speaker 3: Yeah, which makes sense because I imagine those exempt countries

1998
01:35:44,293 --> 01:35:48,892
Speaker 3: their driver's license tests are pretty similar to ours.

1999
01:35:49,173 --> 01:35:51,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I guess they've decided that that there are

2000
01:35:51,732 --> 01:35:54,253
Speaker 2: a similar level. Yeah, so so if you're good enough

2001
01:35:54,253 --> 01:35:57,093
Speaker 2: to pass the test in Australia, you're probably good enough

2002
01:35:57,093 --> 01:35:57,772
Speaker 2: to pass the test here.

2003
01:35:57,853 --> 01:36:00,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, fair enough. Right, good discussion, Thank you

2004
01:36:00,532 --> 01:36:04,412
Speaker 3: very much. After the headlines, we are going to change tack.

2005
01:36:05,293 --> 01:36:08,372
Speaker 3: But some great texts that came through and enjoyed the

2006
01:36:08,412 --> 01:36:10,253
Speaker 3: cheta about escalators. We will have to bring back that

2007
01:36:10,293 --> 01:36:11,933
Speaker 3: topic another day because a lot of people wanted to

2008
01:36:11,973 --> 01:36:19,732
Speaker 3: chet about escalators. A lot of fascination there the text. Yeah, anyway, no,

2009
01:36:19,772 --> 01:36:22,253
Speaker 3: we won't read that one out. We're teasing people here,

2010
01:36:22,293 --> 01:36:25,732
Speaker 3: but that's me, but that is me. I also nearly

2011
01:36:25,772 --> 01:36:27,772
Speaker 3: fell asleep thank you very much.

2012
01:36:27,853 --> 01:36:28,013
Speaker 5: Right.

2013
01:36:28,013 --> 01:36:30,652
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number of call.

2014
01:36:30,732 --> 01:36:33,812
Speaker 3: We want to talk about traveling with your children. On

2015
01:36:33,973 --> 01:36:36,972
Speaker 3: the back of a very cool story about the Williams family.

2016
01:36:37,173 --> 01:36:39,732
Speaker 3: They walked the length of New Zealand with their four kids.

2017
01:36:40,093 --> 01:36:43,293
Speaker 3: Did they quite a journey? But sometimes is it just

2018
01:36:43,372 --> 01:36:45,852
Speaker 3: best to leave the kids at home? Oh eight hundred

2019
01:36:45,853 --> 01:36:46,412
Speaker 3: and eighty.

2020
01:36:46,173 --> 01:36:50,133
Speaker 2: Ten eighty escalators? Well, I don't know did they keep

2021
01:36:50,173 --> 01:36:51,852
Speaker 2: walking or did they stand on the escalator?

2022
01:36:51,933 --> 01:36:55,653
Speaker 3: Big questions, important questions. It is twenty nine past three.

2023
01:36:58,173 --> 01:37:01,973
Speaker 10: Jew's talk'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis it's no

2024
01:37:02,093 --> 01:37:05,612
Speaker 10: trouble with a blue bubble, the Finance Minister says. Cutting

2025
01:37:05,732 --> 01:37:08,892
Speaker 10: the government's key We say a contribution will help boost

2026
01:37:08,933 --> 01:37:13,012
Speaker 10: financial security and their confident wages will continue to grow.

2027
01:37:13,492 --> 01:37:16,652
Speaker 10: The Government's admitted today it hasn't yet worked out how

2028
01:37:16,772 --> 01:37:21,852
Speaker 10: much raising default employer contributions will impact its books. A

2029
01:37:21,893 --> 01:37:25,572
Speaker 10: group of former women MPs are scrutinizing the government's rushed

2030
01:37:25,652 --> 01:37:30,452
Speaker 10: pre budget pay equity changes. The People's Select Committee aims

2031
01:37:30,492 --> 01:37:32,652
Speaker 10: to make up with the lack of consultation on the

2032
01:37:32,772 --> 01:37:37,812
Speaker 10: change affecting pay for mostly women workers. Cordons have been

2033
01:37:37,812 --> 01:37:41,053
Speaker 10: lifted at the at building near Auckland's waterfront after a

2034
01:37:41,093 --> 01:37:44,933
Speaker 10: suspicious package was left at reception. The office was evacuated

2035
01:37:44,973 --> 01:37:49,452
Speaker 10: as a precaution and everybody is safe. Heavy rain that

2036
01:37:49,572 --> 01:37:53,372
Speaker 10: had southern parts over the weekend is moving north. A

2037
01:37:53,412 --> 01:37:57,173
Speaker 10: thunderstorm watch now applies for Northland, Auckland, Why Timor and

2038
01:37:57,253 --> 01:38:02,812
Speaker 10: Waikato and Taranaki from five this afternoon. What's really to

2039
01:38:02,853 --> 01:38:05,652
Speaker 10: blame for Smith and Coey's closure? You can see Andrew

2040
01:38:05,732 --> 01:38:09,572
Speaker 10: Dickens's full column at endsid Herald. Pre back now to

2041
01:38:09,612 --> 01:38:11,093
Speaker 10: Matt Eith and Tyler Adams.

2042
01:38:11,173 --> 01:38:13,692
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Ray Lane, and we want to

2043
01:38:13,692 --> 01:38:15,892
Speaker 3: have a chat about traveling with children. So a great

2044
01:38:15,893 --> 01:38:19,133
Speaker 3: story in the Herald written by Shane Curry. It talks

2045
01:38:19,173 --> 01:38:23,692
Speaker 3: about the Williams family and they are a family of

2046
01:38:23,933 --> 01:38:26,972
Speaker 3: six and mom and dad, Andrew and Courtney and I've

2047
01:38:27,013 --> 01:38:30,212
Speaker 3: got four children ranging from six years old to thirteen

2048
01:38:30,333 --> 01:38:33,333
Speaker 3: years old. They've just walked the length of New Zealand

2049
01:38:33,333 --> 01:38:35,213
Speaker 3: the Tea art at Ola Trail.

2050
01:38:35,772 --> 01:38:36,973
Speaker 2: That is incredible.

2051
01:38:37,053 --> 01:38:39,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, two hundred and eighteen days. So it's one of

2052
01:38:39,933 --> 01:38:42,492
Speaker 3: them six years old, right, one of them six How

2053
01:38:42,492 --> 01:38:44,893
Speaker 3: do they do their school, lessons on the road, homeschooling,

2054
01:38:45,173 --> 01:38:48,013
Speaker 3: homeschooling on the road, Yeah, homeschooling the road, walking.

2055
01:38:47,772 --> 01:38:52,452
Speaker 2: Down the street, walking down the trail, doing spelling tests

2056
01:38:52,492 --> 01:38:52,892
Speaker 2: as such.

2057
01:38:52,973 --> 01:38:54,892
Speaker 3: But of mathematics in your head, I suppose what else

2058
01:38:54,933 --> 01:38:56,772
Speaker 3: do you do if you're just walking down a highway

2059
01:38:56,812 --> 01:38:58,173
Speaker 3: and you've got a bit of time up your sleeve.

2060
01:38:58,333 --> 01:39:00,932
Speaker 2: It's pretty cool because I mean it's an education in itself,

2061
01:39:00,973 --> 01:39:03,612
Speaker 2: isn't it? Doing a walk like that? I mean, personally,

2062
01:39:03,732 --> 01:39:06,333
Speaker 2: i'd leave the kids at home. Paying the arts. Taking

2063
01:39:06,372 --> 01:39:07,293
Speaker 2: kids on trips like that.

2064
01:39:07,173 --> 01:39:09,213
Speaker 3: It's a lot of admind. I got to edmind four

2065
01:39:09,333 --> 01:39:12,972
Speaker 3: kids for a trip up the length of New Zealand.

2066
01:39:12,973 --> 01:39:14,652
Speaker 3: But that's what we want to have a chat about.

2067
01:39:14,692 --> 01:39:16,852
Speaker 3: So good on the Williams family who decided to take

2068
01:39:16,893 --> 01:39:20,492
Speaker 3: their four kids with them on this massive walking journey

2069
01:39:20,492 --> 01:39:24,212
Speaker 3: down the t Atradawa. But sometimes is it just easier

2070
01:39:24,253 --> 01:39:25,812
Speaker 3: to leave for the kids at home if you do

2071
01:39:25,853 --> 01:39:26,893
Speaker 3: one of those big.

2072
01:39:26,973 --> 01:39:29,013
Speaker 2: Yeah one hundred and eighteen eighty. Have you taken your

2073
01:39:29,053 --> 01:39:32,173
Speaker 2: kids on incredible adventures like us? We'd love to hear

2074
01:39:32,213 --> 01:39:34,572
Speaker 2: from you or be when you go overseas you dump

2075
01:39:34,572 --> 01:39:38,013
Speaker 2: your kids with the rallies and with the grandma or

2076
01:39:38,053 --> 01:39:41,372
Speaker 2: with you. When I was a kid, my parents went

2077
01:39:41,412 --> 01:39:43,772
Speaker 2: on a bunch of overseas trips. One time they dumped

2078
01:39:43,812 --> 01:39:47,532
Speaker 2: all four of us kids on my mum's twin sister, yep,

2079
01:39:47,732 --> 01:39:49,732
Speaker 2: and it just left us there. We were there for

2080
01:39:49,812 --> 01:39:52,293
Speaker 2: months and months and months. Another time they went overseas.

2081
01:39:52,293 --> 01:39:54,213
Speaker 2: Whenever they went overseas, they dump us. We'd been in

2082
01:39:54,253 --> 01:39:57,772
Speaker 2: the the cargo for months. And one time my parents

2083
01:39:57,812 --> 01:39:59,492
Speaker 2: were overseas and I sent them a letter going I

2084
01:39:59,492 --> 01:40:02,093
Speaker 2: missed you, Mum and Dad, and the letter followed them

2085
01:40:02,253 --> 01:40:04,372
Speaker 2: around and it came back just after they come back

2086
01:40:04,532 --> 01:40:06,173
Speaker 2: months months later, and it been to every one of

2087
01:40:06,213 --> 01:40:08,293
Speaker 2: their hotels. It had been to something like thirty five

2088
01:40:08,372 --> 01:40:11,253
Speaker 2: hotels and being sent on never caught up with them

2089
01:40:11,293 --> 01:40:13,293
Speaker 2: until I got it when I came back to me.

2090
01:40:13,452 --> 01:40:13,932
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2091
01:40:14,333 --> 01:40:16,053
Speaker 2: Now, And at the time I thought that's not fair.

2092
01:40:16,053 --> 01:40:18,213
Speaker 2: I'd like to be on a tour of the United States.

2093
01:40:18,213 --> 01:40:20,133
Speaker 2: But now I get it. Yeah, taking four kids on

2094
01:40:20,173 --> 01:40:22,772
Speaker 2: that trip would have been so punishing and expensive.

2095
01:40:22,853 --> 01:40:25,492
Speaker 3: Very expensive, and also takes up a lot of your time.

2096
01:40:25,532 --> 01:40:28,692
Speaker 3: If you've got four children under the age of fourteen,

2097
01:40:28,772 --> 01:40:32,372
Speaker 3: that's pretty much taking up your entire trip. Looking after

2098
01:40:32,412 --> 01:40:34,173
Speaker 3: the needs of your children. But what do you say, oh,

2099
01:40:34,213 --> 01:40:37,133
Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty, Is there anything wrong with

2100
01:40:37,253 --> 01:40:39,252
Speaker 3: leaving the children at home when you go on holiday

2101
01:40:39,492 --> 01:40:41,812
Speaker 3: or is there a lot of value in taking them

2102
01:40:41,812 --> 01:40:44,652
Speaker 3: with you if you go abroad, particularly for a length

2103
01:40:44,652 --> 01:40:46,812
Speaker 3: of time. You really keen to get your thoughts. O.

2104
01:40:46,853 --> 01:40:48,812
Speaker 3: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

2105
01:40:48,853 --> 01:40:50,852
Speaker 3: It is twenty four to four.

2106
01:40:52,452 --> 01:40:55,092
Speaker 1: Have a chat with the lads on eight hundred eighty

2107
01:40:55,093 --> 01:40:59,213
Speaker 1: ten eighty. Mad Heathen Tyler Adams Afternoons Youth Talk said, be.

2108
01:40:59,572 --> 01:41:02,333
Speaker 3: Very good afternoon to you. We're talking about traveling or

2109
01:41:02,412 --> 01:41:06,812
Speaker 3: undertaking a serious journey with children. This is the Williams family.

2110
01:41:06,973 --> 01:41:08,973
Speaker 3: Great story in The Hero written by Shane Carry the

2111
01:41:09,013 --> 01:41:13,333
Speaker 3: Williams family did just that. Parents Andrew and Courtney took

2112
01:41:13,412 --> 01:41:17,173
Speaker 3: their four children Oliver thirteen, Summer eleven, Sky nine and

2113
01:41:17,253 --> 01:41:20,572
Speaker 3: Elliot six the length of New Zealand the t ot

2114
01:41:20,612 --> 01:41:23,532
Speaker 3: Owa Trail. How long did it take them two hundred

2115
01:41:23,532 --> 01:41:27,133
Speaker 3: and eighteen days. Wow, which is the better part of

2116
01:41:27,133 --> 01:41:28,293
Speaker 3: a year? Two thirds of a year?

2117
01:41:28,372 --> 01:41:31,293
Speaker 2: Well, how much do most kids winge about doing anything

2118
01:41:31,372 --> 01:41:31,732
Speaker 2: at all?

2119
01:41:32,173 --> 01:41:33,013
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2120
01:41:33,053 --> 01:41:35,692
Speaker 2: So you know, like take the rubbish out and there's

2121
01:41:35,732 --> 01:41:38,293
Speaker 2: a massive winge. But these kids, they managed to hustle

2122
01:41:38,333 --> 01:41:39,932
Speaker 2: them full length of the country.

2123
01:41:40,133 --> 01:41:42,293
Speaker 3: So yeah, so they set aside some rest days in

2124
01:41:42,333 --> 01:41:45,212
Speaker 3: a week off at Christmas, but they averaged about twenty

2125
01:41:45,372 --> 01:41:47,173
Speaker 3: k's a day the longest war.

2126
01:41:47,213 --> 01:41:49,333
Speaker 2: Hang on, they averaged twenty k's a day. That's nothing.

2127
01:41:49,853 --> 01:41:52,372
Speaker 3: What do you mean there's nothing twenty k's. Yeah, I

2128
01:41:52,452 --> 01:41:55,173
Speaker 3: ran ten k's this morning. Yeah, but that's one where

2129
01:41:55,173 --> 01:41:56,852
Speaker 3: I went to work. Isn't that a one off for you?

2130
01:41:56,893 --> 01:41:57,133
Speaker 16: Though?

2131
01:41:57,293 --> 01:41:58,213
Speaker 3: Do you do that every day?

2132
01:41:58,213 --> 01:41:58,293
Speaker 19: No?

2133
01:41:58,372 --> 01:42:00,093
Speaker 2: I do it every second day. But I'm not walking

2134
01:42:00,133 --> 01:42:03,133
Speaker 2: the length of the country. That's not my full time occupation.

2135
01:42:03,652 --> 01:42:06,652
Speaker 2: So you what's the average I'm not going to nikel

2136
01:42:06,652 --> 01:42:07,372
Speaker 2: and die in these people.

2137
01:42:07,372 --> 01:42:09,612
Speaker 3: This does average over to eighteen days. So they're pretty

2138
01:42:09,612 --> 01:42:10,333
Speaker 3: good as all know, and.

2139
01:42:10,333 --> 01:42:12,213
Speaker 2: Like good on the six year old, it's awesome. But

2140
01:42:12,933 --> 01:42:14,492
Speaker 2: twenty k is a day, No, I get it. There's

2141
01:42:14,532 --> 01:42:16,933
Speaker 2: plenty of time for home schooling and such. So what

2142
01:42:17,253 --> 01:42:19,852
Speaker 2: speed do you walk out? I think the average let's

2143
01:42:19,893 --> 01:42:22,012
Speaker 2: just say average walking pace is about seven k's.

2144
01:42:22,333 --> 01:42:23,452
Speaker 3: Yeah, givil take so they.

2145
01:42:23,412 --> 01:42:26,412
Speaker 2: Were only walking three or four hours a day. That's

2146
01:42:26,532 --> 01:42:27,253
Speaker 2: very manageable.

2147
01:42:27,412 --> 01:42:29,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it depends on how many meters they're covering

2148
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Speaker 3: as well elevation wise. But the longest walk day was

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01:42:33,612 --> 01:42:36,253
Speaker 3: thirty two k. How's that? Thirty two k the longest

2150
01:42:36,372 --> 01:42:38,013
Speaker 3: It's all right, you're not sold on that.

2151
01:42:38,452 --> 01:42:39,812
Speaker 2: Tell you what. It's awesome for a six year old.

2152
01:42:39,893 --> 01:42:41,293
Speaker 3: It is very good for a six year old.

2153
01:42:41,492 --> 01:42:43,452
Speaker 2: This Texas says. We have four kids and travel with

2154
01:42:43,492 --> 01:42:46,372
Speaker 2: them all and also just my wife and I also

2155
01:42:46,412 --> 01:42:48,253
Speaker 2: travel without them two thousand and seventy and we spent

2156
01:42:48,293 --> 01:42:51,253
Speaker 2: three weeks in La San Diego and Las Vegas. Twenty nineteen,

2157
01:42:51,253 --> 01:42:53,772
Speaker 2: my wife and I went to La and Vegas by ourselves.

2158
01:42:54,093 --> 01:42:56,933
Speaker 2: Oh these guys like Las Vegas, don't they? How it

2159
01:42:56,973 --> 01:42:59,532
Speaker 2: had to cancel twenty twenty due to COVID Last August,

2160
01:42:59,532 --> 01:43:01,812
Speaker 2: we took our four kids and her parents away for

2161
01:43:01,853 --> 01:43:04,612
Speaker 2: four weeks San Diego, La, Las Vegas, and back to

2162
01:43:04,732 --> 01:43:07,932
Speaker 2: LA again. These people are punishing Las Vegas. My wife

2163
01:43:07,973 --> 01:43:10,573
Speaker 2: I going back to LA for seven weeks for our anivestory.

2164
01:43:10,612 --> 01:43:12,412
Speaker 3: Look at that, and fair enough to Las Vegas is

2165
01:43:12,452 --> 01:43:14,293
Speaker 3: a great place, particularly if you don't have the kids.

2166
01:43:14,293 --> 01:43:17,053
Speaker 3: So I'm sure you're an agreement, Heath, what's that Las

2167
01:43:17,173 --> 01:43:18,612
Speaker 3: Vegas is a great place without the kids.

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01:43:18,853 --> 01:43:20,692
Speaker 2: It's a great place without the kids. But actually people

2169
01:43:20,692 --> 01:43:23,253
Speaker 2: don't realize about Las Vegas. There's lots with the kids

2170
01:43:23,253 --> 01:43:25,692
Speaker 2: as well. Yeah, it's changed a lot over the year

2171
01:43:25,692 --> 01:43:28,053
Speaker 2: from just sin city. There's some fantastic stuff you can

2172
01:43:28,093 --> 01:43:30,492
Speaker 2: do around there, and in fact it's great, it's great.

2173
01:43:30,692 --> 01:43:32,692
Speaker 2: It's sort of Disneyland side to it as well.

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01:43:33,013 --> 01:43:36,093
Speaker 3: Here's my question that those and I know I've got

2175
01:43:36,133 --> 01:43:38,172
Speaker 3: a lot of friends that do this. So they travel

2176
01:43:38,333 --> 01:43:42,732
Speaker 3: with infants I'm talking under three years old, So they

2177
01:43:42,772 --> 01:43:48,813
Speaker 3: travel to quite far flung places with their under three children. Honestly,

2178
01:43:49,652 --> 01:43:52,452
Speaker 3: what is the point in that? Because those children are

2179
01:43:52,492 --> 01:43:54,772
Speaker 3: not going to remember a lot of those places that

2180
01:43:54,812 --> 01:43:57,093
Speaker 3: you go and see at cost a fortune, You've got

2181
01:43:57,133 --> 01:44:01,372
Speaker 3: to deal with infants on planes, genuinely, what is the

2182
01:44:01,572 --> 01:44:05,013
Speaker 3: what is the positives of traveling with children that long

2183
01:44:05,053 --> 01:44:07,652
Speaker 3: if you are young, if you're going on an international trip.

2184
01:44:09,133 --> 01:44:12,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean that's really frustrating. Well, my son

2185
01:44:12,572 --> 01:44:14,293
Speaker 2: when he was one and a half eighteen months, he

2186
01:44:14,333 --> 01:44:16,452
Speaker 2: traveled the entirety of the United States and a tour

2187
01:44:16,532 --> 01:44:19,173
Speaker 2: van with his mum, who was a Who's a band

2188
01:44:19,213 --> 01:44:22,132
Speaker 2: was touring the states, So he was he was eighteen

2189
01:44:22,133 --> 01:44:23,852
Speaker 2: months old. No, he was younger than that. No, he

2190
01:44:24,013 --> 01:44:27,973
Speaker 2: was less than a year old. That's right. And he

2191
01:44:28,133 --> 01:44:30,612
Speaker 2: was on the road for ages and the bass of

2192
01:44:30,652 --> 01:44:32,652
Speaker 2: the guitarist of the band said he cried less than

2193
01:44:32,973 --> 01:44:35,852
Speaker 2: the guitarist of the band did. But he can't. He

2194
01:44:35,853 --> 01:44:37,452
Speaker 2: can't remember it, and a kind of anoys him to

2195
01:44:37,492 --> 01:44:39,253
Speaker 2: the day. He's like, oh, I've been to the Grand

2196
01:44:39,253 --> 01:44:41,892
Speaker 2: canonon but I've never seen it. Matt, he threw a deck.

2197
01:44:41,933 --> 01:44:45,253
Speaker 2: Imagine a six year olds walking twenty k's every day,

2198
01:44:45,732 --> 01:44:47,772
Speaker 2: says this text, And Matt, you're an idiot. They weren't

2199
01:44:47,772 --> 01:44:49,452
Speaker 2: doing the twenty k's on the flat, even if you're

2200
01:44:49,452 --> 01:44:51,612
Speaker 2: going uphill. I'm saying, I'm not I'm not I'm not

2201
01:44:51,692 --> 01:44:54,892
Speaker 2: hassling them. I'm just saying that twenty k's in this

2202
01:44:54,973 --> 01:44:57,133
Speaker 2: family that walked the length of the country. I'm saying,

2203
01:44:57,133 --> 01:45:00,173
Speaker 2: twenty k's is manageable and good on these parents. It's

2204
01:45:00,213 --> 01:45:05,452
Speaker 2: a fantastic invention, an invention and adventure. Sorry, but when

2205
01:45:05,532 --> 01:45:07,372
Speaker 2: you first hear it, you go, how's that even possible?

2206
01:45:07,372 --> 01:45:09,253
Speaker 2: The six year old? But then that they're averaging twenty

2207
01:45:09,333 --> 01:45:11,053
Speaker 2: k's a day. It seems quite possible. I mean a

2208
01:45:11,093 --> 01:45:12,892
Speaker 2: six six year old can do twenty k's and today

2209
01:45:12,933 --> 01:45:13,333
Speaker 2: they love it.

2210
01:45:13,492 --> 01:45:15,772
Speaker 3: Yeah, I adde hundred eighty t and eighty. If you've

2211
01:45:15,772 --> 01:45:20,372
Speaker 3: done the TA Trail, let Matt know how easy or

2212
01:45:20,412 --> 01:45:22,372
Speaker 3: difficult it is to do twenty k's a day. There'll

2213
01:45:22,333 --> 01:45:24,653
Speaker 3: be a lot of people that have done the TA

2214
01:45:24,732 --> 01:45:28,093
Speaker 3: Travel Trail. I should say I wede hundred eighty t

2215
01:45:28,173 --> 01:45:30,692
Speaker 3: and eighty. How many k's did you average a day?

2216
01:45:30,973 --> 01:45:34,412
Speaker 3: I mean you'll extrapolate that out to two hundred and

2217
01:45:34,412 --> 01:45:38,292
Speaker 3: eighteen days. Twenty k a day? That is, that's some footwork.

2218
01:45:38,973 --> 01:45:41,812
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's doable. Though this text Do you agree with

2219
01:45:41,853 --> 01:45:46,012
Speaker 2: this textas says, wow, selfish parents? Why is that selfish

2220
01:45:46,013 --> 01:45:48,293
Speaker 2: to take your kids away for that long? I don't know.

2221
01:45:49,692 --> 01:45:51,532
Speaker 2: Tom Phillips is on an epic junny, it's not. We're

2222
01:45:51,532 --> 01:45:53,652
Speaker 2: not talking about a Tom Phillips the type situation here.

2223
01:45:53,652 --> 01:45:54,772
Speaker 2: It's very very different.

2224
01:45:56,013 --> 01:45:58,652
Speaker 3: This one says, guys, they may be kids who don't

2225
01:45:58,652 --> 01:46:02,293
Speaker 3: eat vast quantities of sugar and play sports, and maybe

2226
01:46:02,812 --> 01:46:05,093
Speaker 3: if they also respect each other and it would be

2227
01:46:05,213 --> 01:46:07,572
Speaker 3: no problem to walk for six months from g.

2228
01:46:07,772 --> 01:46:10,532
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think you could eat vast amounts of

2229
01:46:10,572 --> 01:46:12,692
Speaker 2: sugar if you're walking twenty k's a day. I don't

2230
01:46:12,732 --> 01:46:15,333
Speaker 2: think you'd have to worry about your kids sugar and take.

2231
01:46:15,333 --> 01:46:16,972
Speaker 2: In fact, you might want to give them some barley

2232
01:46:16,973 --> 01:46:18,092
Speaker 2: sugars on that kind of journey.

2233
01:46:18,173 --> 01:46:21,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, And Mike says, guys, we've been to Europe on

2234
01:46:21,333 --> 01:46:25,093
Speaker 3: business when our kids were ten and thirteen and we

2235
01:46:25,173 --> 01:46:28,492
Speaker 3: fit them. Next time we go over it will take

2236
01:46:28,532 --> 01:46:31,492
Speaker 3: you with us. And they remembered when they were eighteen

2237
01:46:31,532 --> 01:46:33,972
Speaker 3: and twenty one and we took them to Munich, London,

2238
01:46:34,013 --> 01:46:37,572
Speaker 3: Barcelona and Ala for a work thing. Great trip, great time,

2239
01:46:37,812 --> 01:46:38,773
Speaker 3: great memories.

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Speaker 2: Okay, there's a lot of support for taking your kids, Yeah,

2241
01:46:41,532 --> 01:46:44,133
Speaker 2: and a lot of pushback on my idea that's better

2242
01:46:44,173 --> 01:46:44,772
Speaker 2: to leave them home.

2243
01:46:44,893 --> 01:46:46,612
Speaker 3: Oh, eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty, if you've

2244
01:46:46,612 --> 01:46:50,732
Speaker 3: done the Ta trail, Matt's is keenda have a chat

2245
01:46:50,772 --> 01:46:53,892
Speaker 3: with your with the twenty ks is a long way

2246
01:46:53,933 --> 01:46:56,812
Speaker 3: to go on an average day. And also traveling with

2247
01:46:56,853 --> 01:46:58,932
Speaker 3: your children is it too much? Edmond? Is there anything

2248
01:46:58,973 --> 01:47:01,772
Speaker 3: wrong with leaving them with the rallies, particularly if the

2249
01:47:01,933 --> 01:47:03,972
Speaker 3: infant's really came to hear from your On eight hundred

2250
01:47:03,973 --> 01:47:05,692
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty.

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01:47:05,973 --> 01:47:08,293
Speaker 2: The average walking speed, saysys Textter, is about five kilo.

2252
01:47:08,372 --> 01:47:09,892
Speaker 2: Mean is an hour, so twenty k is in days,

2253
01:47:09,893 --> 01:47:11,852
Speaker 2: about four hours walking. I'm not sure what the average

2254
01:47:12,093 --> 01:47:13,772
Speaker 2: walking speed for a six year old is.

2255
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Speaker 3: They I'm going to get out the Catchil Admiral will

2256
01:47:15,492 --> 01:47:17,093
Speaker 3: figure that out. It is quarter to four.

2257
01:47:18,412 --> 01:47:21,932
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

2258
01:47:22,133 --> 01:47:26,492
Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons Used Talks, EDB,

2259
01:47:27,213 --> 01:47:29,132
Speaker 1: Newstalks EDB, Very.

2260
01:47:28,973 --> 01:47:31,013
Speaker 3: Good afternoon to you. We're talking about this family, the

2261
01:47:31,053 --> 01:47:34,572
Speaker 3: Williams family, tight knit. Andrew and Courtney are the parents,

2262
01:47:34,572 --> 01:47:37,572
Speaker 3: and they took their four kids, Oliver, Summer, Sky and

2263
01:47:37,772 --> 01:47:42,972
Speaker 3: Elliott the length of New Zealand, the troa trail. Incredible effort,

2264
01:47:42,973 --> 01:47:45,452
Speaker 3: two hudred and eighteen days. But traveling with kids, that's

2265
01:47:45,492 --> 01:47:47,732
Speaker 3: the question we've asked sometimes, is it just a bit

2266
01:47:47,772 --> 01:47:48,293
Speaker 3: too much head?

2267
01:47:48,492 --> 01:47:48,652
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2268
01:47:48,652 --> 01:47:50,572
Speaker 2: And look these people that are saying I'm dissing this walk.

2269
01:47:50,933 --> 01:47:53,612
Speaker 2: I've been talking up this walk. I think it's absolutely

2270
01:47:53,692 --> 01:47:55,253
Speaker 2: awesome that they did it. What I was saying is

2271
01:47:55,293 --> 01:47:57,412
Speaker 2: that good on those parents for taking their kids because

2272
01:47:57,412 --> 01:48:00,093
Speaker 2: it's such a hassle. But also I was saying that

2273
01:48:00,133 --> 01:48:02,732
Speaker 2: twenty kilometers at our day. You know, when you break

2274
01:48:02,772 --> 01:48:05,093
Speaker 2: it down, it does seem more manageable than to twenty

2275
01:48:05,133 --> 01:48:06,932
Speaker 2: kilometers a day. So I don't know, some people don't

2276
01:48:06,933 --> 01:48:09,732
Speaker 2: listen very closely and fair enough. You can enjoy or

2277
01:48:10,013 --> 01:48:12,133
Speaker 2: not enjoy this radio show any you want, But to

2278
01:48:12,492 --> 01:48:15,932
Speaker 2: say that I was dussing this family, how dare you ben?

2279
01:48:17,053 --> 01:48:19,972
Speaker 2: You reckon? You often walk twenty comanies a day?

2280
01:48:21,053 --> 01:48:23,852
Speaker 23: Yeah, yeah, well you know more than more than say,

2281
01:48:24,133 --> 01:48:27,452
Speaker 23: maybe a couple of times a months easy, but yeah,

2282
01:48:27,532 --> 01:48:30,172
Speaker 23: certain times of the year, just even in the yards,

2283
01:48:30,173 --> 01:48:33,492
Speaker 23: like I'll do ten k's in the morning shifting a

2284
01:48:33,572 --> 01:48:34,092
Speaker 23: deer break.

2285
01:48:34,173 --> 01:48:35,892
Speaker 7: You're looking at ten.

2286
01:48:35,732 --> 01:48:38,333
Speaker 23: Times four hundred meters and that's just one part of

2287
01:48:38,372 --> 01:48:41,133
Speaker 23: the job during the day. So it doesn't take long.

2288
01:48:41,173 --> 01:48:43,173
Speaker 23: I mean, if you follow the female around the shop

2289
01:48:43,213 --> 01:48:45,133
Speaker 23: so I reckon, I reckon, those girls would knock up

2290
01:48:45,253 --> 01:48:46,372
Speaker 23: a few k's pretty quick.

2291
01:48:46,692 --> 01:48:49,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder how many steps twenty k would be.

2292
01:48:49,412 --> 01:48:51,612
Speaker 3: That would be about fifteen thousand steps we take.

2293
01:48:52,452 --> 01:48:54,173
Speaker 23: Yeah, Well, like I said, I've done well over ten

2294
01:48:54,253 --> 01:48:57,053
Speaker 23: thousand in the morning before, just in the deer it's

2295
01:48:57,093 --> 01:48:59,532
Speaker 23: just going in out of the yards you're pretty much

2296
01:48:59,532 --> 01:49:03,892
Speaker 23: walking the whole time. But yeah, so i'd suggest, like, well,

2297
01:49:03,973 --> 01:49:06,732
Speaker 23: the concept of walking twenty kimeenters even a cimeter when

2298
01:49:06,772 --> 01:49:08,093
Speaker 23: you sort of get out and you think I'm better

2299
01:49:08,093 --> 01:49:09,852
Speaker 23: walked from here to there. It's going to be quite

2300
01:49:09,853 --> 01:49:12,452
Speaker 23: a long time. But once you start, you seem to

2301
01:49:12,492 --> 01:49:13,412
Speaker 23: get there pretty quickly.

2302
01:49:13,692 --> 01:49:14,333
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2303
01:49:14,372 --> 01:49:16,852
Speaker 23: Well, you know, I mean kids in toe that would

2304
01:49:16,893 --> 01:49:18,173
Speaker 23: be four Oh I'm there.

2305
01:49:18,572 --> 01:49:22,173
Speaker 2: Yeah. And also these parents were carrying a bunch of

2306
01:49:22,213 --> 01:49:23,372
Speaker 2: stuff on their backpacks as.

2307
01:49:23,253 --> 01:49:26,692
Speaker 3: Well, exactly, so you've got fifteen k on your back. Yeah,

2308
01:49:26,732 --> 01:49:29,012
Speaker 3: and you're smashing twenty k with four kids. It's pretty

2309
01:49:29,053 --> 01:49:29,812
Speaker 3: good efing. Oh yeah.

2310
01:49:30,133 --> 01:49:33,173
Speaker 23: Oh, and for some strange reason, like five and six

2311
01:49:33,293 --> 01:49:35,572
Speaker 23: year old seem to want to pick up every second rock.

2312
01:49:36,973 --> 01:49:38,012
Speaker 23: Can you imagine it?

2313
01:49:38,572 --> 01:49:40,612
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's that's a very good part of it.

2314
01:49:40,652 --> 01:49:42,572
Speaker 2: And then suddenly they want to carry a massive stick

2315
01:49:42,652 --> 01:49:45,452
Speaker 2: for a while, and it's a massive drama if they

2316
01:49:45,452 --> 01:49:47,372
Speaker 2: can't take this stick back to the acorn.

2317
01:49:47,572 --> 01:49:47,812
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2318
01:49:47,853 --> 01:49:50,492
Speaker 3: But if you see a good stack becomes a part

2319
01:49:50,532 --> 01:49:53,452
Speaker 3: of them. Yeah yeah, but come on, as fellers here,

2320
01:49:53,572 --> 01:49:55,652
Speaker 3: you can recognize a good stick when you see one.

2321
01:49:55,652 --> 01:49:58,213
Speaker 23: Surely, Oh you a good stick?

2322
01:49:58,812 --> 01:50:01,772
Speaker 2: Stick? Think I for your call, Ben, We'll let you

2323
01:50:01,772 --> 01:50:04,253
Speaker 2: get back to you to your job. So ten thousand steps,

2324
01:50:04,253 --> 01:50:05,812
Speaker 2: which was that thing they always say that you should,

2325
01:50:06,333 --> 01:50:07,612
Speaker 2: you know, walk in the day. You know, that's just

2326
01:50:07,652 --> 01:50:09,572
Speaker 2: actually been made up. There's no science behind the ten

2327
01:50:09,612 --> 01:50:12,133
Speaker 2: thousand steps. That was just a particular device that was

2328
01:50:12,133 --> 01:50:14,932
Speaker 2: made in Japan that happened to track ten thousand steps.

2329
01:50:15,093 --> 01:50:18,612
Speaker 2: But ten thousand steps is just under eight k right,

2330
01:50:18,732 --> 01:50:20,812
Speaker 2: so they say just in an average day you should

2331
01:50:20,812 --> 01:50:21,892
Speaker 2: walk ten thousand steps.

2332
01:50:22,173 --> 01:50:24,972
Speaker 3: So we're talking twenty five thousand steps twenty k p day.

2333
01:50:24,973 --> 01:50:28,412
Speaker 3: That's a good nudge, guys. I've watched this family's YouTube

2334
01:50:28,452 --> 01:50:31,972
Speaker 3: videos covering their trip. Those kids learnt more in two

2335
01:50:32,093 --> 01:50:34,772
Speaker 3: hundred and eighteen days walking the country than they ever

2336
01:50:34,933 --> 01:50:37,692
Speaker 3: would have at school. Credits to their parents were being

2337
01:50:37,692 --> 01:50:38,372
Speaker 3: brave enough to do it.

2338
01:50:38,492 --> 01:50:40,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. I always think of that when parents want

2339
01:50:40,333 --> 01:50:42,213
Speaker 2: to take their kids away on holiday and that time

2340
01:50:42,253 --> 01:50:44,972
Speaker 2: that you spend with your parents and seeing other things.

2341
01:50:45,013 --> 01:50:47,772
Speaker 2: Just generally even walking up the country fantastic, walking the

2342
01:50:47,812 --> 01:50:50,652
Speaker 2: link of the country, but I mean primary school and

2343
01:50:50,692 --> 01:50:54,412
Speaker 2: intermediately here really learning anything that isn't that is as

2344
01:50:54,452 --> 01:50:56,052
Speaker 2: important as that time with your family.

2345
01:50:56,213 --> 01:50:57,933
Speaker 3: Very good call, Nick. How are you?

2346
01:51:00,492 --> 01:51:02,412
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, Nick? Oh sorry, we had a bit of

2347
01:51:02,412 --> 01:51:06,173
Speaker 2: a problem with their phones there, Nick. Traveling with kids. Yep,

2348
01:51:06,173 --> 01:51:06,932
Speaker 2: we can hear you good.

2349
01:51:07,173 --> 01:51:11,532
Speaker 24: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you just hear me out here. Quite

2350
01:51:11,532 --> 01:51:14,013
Speaker 24: a number of years ago, thirty five years ago, we

2351
01:51:14,053 --> 01:51:18,412
Speaker 24: took our two children. One was one turn six in

2352
01:51:18,492 --> 01:51:21,572
Speaker 24: Eastern Europe and one turned one. The youngest turned one

2353
01:51:21,612 --> 01:51:24,732
Speaker 24: in the Netherlands. We're away for six months. We're away

2354
01:51:24,732 --> 01:51:31,812
Speaker 24: for six months. My oldest daughter has is now the

2355
01:51:31,812 --> 01:51:35,372
Speaker 24: international flight crew. I have since had another two daughters.

2356
01:51:35,933 --> 01:51:39,452
Speaker 24: One has been in London for six years, has cycled

2357
01:51:39,452 --> 01:51:41,732
Speaker 24: from London to Auckland, and now that my youngest one

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Speaker 24: is at present been in London for six years and

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01:51:43,732 --> 01:51:47,572
Speaker 24: traveled all over the place over there. All I'm trying

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01:51:47,612 --> 01:51:52,452
Speaker 24: to say here is it's, you know, it's such a

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01:51:52,532 --> 01:51:55,532
Speaker 24: great thing for children, like doing something like this, like

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01:51:55,652 --> 01:51:58,572
Speaker 24: what this family did, it's so valuable, you know what

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01:51:58,612 --> 01:52:03,013
Speaker 24: it does for them, for the in the futures. It's actually, yeah,

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01:52:03,253 --> 01:52:06,972
Speaker 24: you don't need xboxes and all those sorts of things,

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01:52:07,013 --> 01:52:10,372
Speaker 24: you know. It's it's so we don't regret what we

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01:52:10,412 --> 01:52:14,092
Speaker 24: did with our children. Of we've taken them all around

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01:52:14,093 --> 01:52:18,613
Speaker 24: the world more than once, and it's very, very valuable.

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Speaker 24: You know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, good on your neck. It sounds like you've

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01:52:20,853 --> 01:52:23,852
Speaker 2: created some intrepid journeyists. Hey, guys, have you seen some

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01:52:23,853 --> 01:52:25,852
Speaker 2: of the terrain on that walk? Incredibly difficult.

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01:52:26,053 --> 01:52:28,133
Speaker 3: Look, boy, boy, think you're getting a lot of stick

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01:52:28,173 --> 01:52:28,333
Speaker 3: on this.

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Speaker 2: I I'm saying. When I heard the walk, I was like,

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01:52:31,893 --> 01:52:34,133
Speaker 2: that sounds wow, that sounds impossible. But then when you

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01:52:34,173 --> 01:52:35,812
Speaker 2: hear it's twenty k's a day, when you break it

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01:52:35,853 --> 01:52:38,253
Speaker 2: down on average, then you see that it is obviously

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01:52:38,293 --> 01:52:41,333
Speaker 2: it's possible because they did it. Yeah, but you can

2379
01:52:41,372 --> 01:52:44,412
Speaker 2: get your head around it. You know, incrementally it won't

2380
01:52:44,412 --> 01:52:47,213
Speaker 2: having to twenty k day. That's just phenomenal, phenomenal, there's

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01:52:47,213 --> 01:52:49,732
Speaker 2: no doubt. And carrying the backpacks and the kids wanting

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01:52:49,732 --> 01:52:51,772
Speaker 2: to carry different sticks and all those kind of problems,

2383
01:52:51,772 --> 01:52:54,852
Speaker 2: absolutely all respect to them. This Texas says the kids

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01:52:54,853 --> 01:52:56,732
Speaker 2: should be carrying the backpacks like little sherpas.

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Speaker 20: Yeah.

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01:52:56,933 --> 01:52:57,573
Speaker 2: I agree.

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Speaker 3: Mary. What's your thoughts about what this family's done.

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01:53:03,652 --> 01:53:04,613
Speaker 5: I think they've.

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Speaker 22: Done an amazing thing. I was reading it in the

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01:53:08,133 --> 01:53:12,013
Speaker 22: paper on the weekid and thinking, what amazing kids to

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01:53:12,133 --> 01:53:15,412
Speaker 22: do that, and they did have their own little fake

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01:53:15,572 --> 01:53:19,053
Speaker 22: packs on their from what I could read, and I

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01:53:19,093 --> 01:53:21,812
Speaker 22: thought was good on them. But I was also just

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01:53:21,973 --> 01:53:25,852
Speaker 22: commenting on my way home from golf to say that

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01:53:25,973 --> 01:53:29,213
Speaker 22: you can walk ten k's pushing a cart around the

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01:53:29,253 --> 01:53:30,852
Speaker 22: golf course very easily.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so true. Yeah, that's some serious case perspective. Yeah, absolutely,

2398
01:53:37,692 --> 01:53:38,852
Speaker 2: thanks so much for you call Marie.

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01:53:38,893 --> 01:53:43,532
Speaker 3: That is a good point. Yeah, Mary, Mary, Mary, Hey,

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01:53:43,572 --> 01:53:46,172
Speaker 3: Matt and Tyler. We are walking the South Island Coastline

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01:53:46,173 --> 01:53:49,652
Speaker 3: with our small dog. We average fifteen k'sbou day. Check

2402
01:53:49,652 --> 01:53:53,772
Speaker 3: out our Facebook page, the Walk of Goodness. Lots of

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01:53:53,973 --> 01:53:57,492
Speaker 3: photos and kilometers walked each day and quite the tale

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01:53:57,612 --> 01:54:00,612
Speaker 3: to read as well. That's from Katie. So we'll go

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01:54:00,812 --> 01:54:03,293
Speaker 3: and have a look at that Facebook page, the Walk

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01:54:03,293 --> 01:54:04,572
Speaker 3: of Goodness. Go check it out.

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01:54:05,532 --> 01:54:10,372
Speaker 2: Grunt, oh Grant, Oh that is you. This is you

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01:54:10,452 --> 01:54:12,973
Speaker 2: Grant that's doing that South Island coastal coastline walk. How

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01:54:13,013 --> 01:54:13,692
Speaker 2: small is your dog?

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01:54:15,093 --> 01:54:17,093
Speaker 25: A he's a little border Terrier, so he's one of

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01:54:17,093 --> 01:54:19,532
Speaker 25: the smaller he's a small model of the border terrier.

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01:54:19,572 --> 01:54:22,452
Speaker 25: But he's got the attitude and heard of a bigger dog.

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01:54:23,812 --> 01:54:25,892
Speaker 2: And so but dogs love a walk don't they.

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01:54:26,253 --> 01:54:28,133
Speaker 25: Oh, absolutely, and especially on the beach.

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01:54:28,213 --> 01:54:29,173
Speaker 17: So yeah, he's done.

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01:54:29,053 --> 01:54:31,372
Speaker 25: The whole lot. He's done a whole lot from christ

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01:54:31,372 --> 01:54:34,333
Speaker 25: Shoots all the way down to past Tirie.

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01:54:34,812 --> 01:54:36,772
Speaker 2: That we've got to it, and so are you. You're

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01:54:36,772 --> 01:54:38,653
Speaker 2: doing it all in a line in a row, or

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01:54:38,693 --> 01:54:41,173
Speaker 2: you're picking it off and at different times.

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01:54:41,533 --> 01:54:43,892
Speaker 25: We're doing it at different times. We do it in

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01:54:43,933 --> 01:54:48,253
Speaker 25: consecutive legs. So every once or twice a month we

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01:54:48,373 --> 01:54:50,932
Speaker 25: head off down the coast to where we finished last

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01:54:50,973 --> 01:54:54,693
Speaker 25: time and do another lenks. So yeah, we're just about down,

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01:54:54,893 --> 01:55:00,253
Speaker 25: as I say, past Tirie south of Dunedin, crossing the cluster. Yeah,

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01:55:00,613 --> 01:55:01,973
Speaker 25: you're going coming weekend.

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01:55:01,733 --> 01:55:04,212
Speaker 2: You're going to wander down the Catlands way.

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01:55:04,453 --> 01:55:06,613
Speaker 25: Yes, yeah, we're going to get through the Catlands and

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01:55:06,613 --> 01:55:11,453
Speaker 25: then down to Bluff and round to the Fiordland coastline.

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01:55:11,693 --> 01:55:14,012
Speaker 2: How cute you die? Just saw a picture.

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01:55:14,053 --> 01:55:15,852
Speaker 3: We're just having a look at your Facebook page now,

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01:55:15,973 --> 01:55:16,653
Speaker 3: very cute dog.

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01:55:18,772 --> 01:55:20,772
Speaker 2: All right, we've lost grant. Where can they follow? We'll

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01:55:20,772 --> 01:55:21,213
Speaker 2: follow that.

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01:55:21,253 --> 01:55:24,453
Speaker 3: So if you go to the path of goodness, the

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01:55:24,493 --> 01:55:26,772
Speaker 3: walk of Goodness, I should say on Facebook, and you'll

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01:55:26,772 --> 01:55:29,453
Speaker 3: be able to follow that journey. Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 2: Well, Thank you so much for listening to the show

2439
01:55:31,853 --> 01:55:33,453
Speaker 2: that brings us at the end of that podcast will

2440
01:55:33,493 --> 01:55:36,213
Speaker 2: be out very soon. Where you get your podcast if

2441
01:55:36,213 --> 01:55:37,852
Speaker 2: you're mis sending our chats. The one on the rise

2442
01:55:37,893 --> 01:55:40,253
Speaker 2: of woman and woman misogyny was particularly good.

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01:55:40,253 --> 01:55:41,012
Speaker 3: He was spicy.

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01:55:41,253 --> 01:55:44,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, and one day we'll get to the full examination

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01:55:44,533 --> 01:55:46,493
Speaker 2: of escalators in New Zealand.

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01:55:46,693 --> 01:55:49,173
Speaker 3: It's on the list for next time. Thank you very much.

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01:55:49,213 --> 01:55:50,733
Speaker 3: As always, we'll do it all again tomorrow.

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01:55:50,853 --> 01:55:54,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, my mate Heathers up next Until tomorrow afternoon. Wherever

2449
01:55:54,253 --> 01:55:57,413
Speaker 2: you are, what you're doing, have a great rest of

2450
01:55:57,453 --> 01:55:59,533
Speaker 2: your day and give them a taste of Kiwi from us.

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