1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Either do forel Transpower has admitted that the crew working 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: on the piland were the ones to blame. Yep, they 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: didn't remove nuts on two legs, they removed nuts on 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: three legs. Here's the chief executive Alis and Andrew. Yeah, 5 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: now you can't hear anything, don't worry about it anyway. 6 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: She just explains the situation for Transpower. Right, it's the Transpower, 7 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: it's the contractor who did it, Omic Soom and the Minister, 8 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: Simme and Brown. 9 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: None of them want to talk about it. 10 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: Darren Fishers, the Chief Executive North Chamber, Northland's Business Chamber, 11 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: it is with us now. 12 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 3: Hey, Darren, good evening. How are you very well? 13 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: Thank you? 14 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: Does knowing that it was just something stupid make it 15 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: better for you guys or worse? 16 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 3: I think it raises the level of anxiety, to be honest. 17 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 3: I mean I don't know if you can be ensured 18 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 3: for negligence in this respect. So as far as our 19 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 3: businesses here have concerned, I'm not sure whether they're covered 20 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,639 Speaker 3: or not. I mean, because the Transpower are certainly not 21 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 3: fronting up to any form of compensation themselves, just breaking 22 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 3: the Consumer Guarantees Act. So I mean yeah, I think 23 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 3: this has to the problem. 24 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 2: Well, okay, hold on. 25 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: So I looked at that because Alison Andrew had seen 26 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: people can make a claim through the consumer guarantees that 27 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: go through their electricity provider. I just assumed that it 28 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: was her admitting that they are liable for compo. 29 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 3: You seeing it differently, certainly seeing it differently. I think 30 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 3: consumer Guarantees act relates to you and I at home 31 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 3: as an average retailer. It doesn't relate to business. From 32 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 3: a business perspective. We're encouraged to make claims through our 33 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 3: own insurers, which would then obviously come at at a 34 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 3: premium cost to ourselves and then no doubt having an 35 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 3: effect on our ongoing premiums. And I mean those as 36 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 3: everyone in business in New Zealand. Those premiums for insurances 37 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 3: already out of control, So making a claim for negligence 38 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 3: on someone else's won't be helpful. 39 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: Darren, Have you taken legal advice. 40 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 3: Just in the process of that, now, if I've had 41 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 3: some just initial feedback through our legal partners, but I'm 42 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 3: waiting to hear some specific feedback from some of our 43 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 3: members insurance. 44 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 2: What are your lawyers telling you just initially, Oh, there's. 45 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 3: That we're not sure whether it covered or not. Really, 46 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 3: I mean that's the unknown is still unknown. 47 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: Have you tried to talk to transpar about whether they 48 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 2: are liable here? 49 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 3: Yes, So we had Transpower address ourselves and a number 50 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 3: of members of the business community North in this morning 51 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 3: at ten o'clock and you know, they already signaled to 52 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 3: us that they're going to be making announcement at one o'clock, 53 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 3: but disappointingly they wouldn't share any further information at that 54 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 3: time and the advice they gave us in was in 55 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 3: line with what they gave us again at one o'clock, 56 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 3: so not terribly helpful to them. 57 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 2: So they didn't say anything about whether they would pay compo. 58 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 3: No, definitely not. 59 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: Well, Darren, I really hope for your sake that actually 60 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: your lawyers tell you that you can go hell for 61 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: leather with these guys. 62 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time. 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