1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: As part of results season. What have we got Auckland 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: deport came to the parties Andrew alluded to a couple 3 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: of moments ago passengers up, revenue up, profit up. The CEO, 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Kerry Hudahunganui is back with us. Very good morning to you. 5 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 2: Good morning mane. 6 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: How much of your bottom line at the end of 7 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: the day is what you specifically do versus other people 8 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: doing stuff for you? 9 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 2: I e. 10 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: And airline lands they bring people in with that comes money. 11 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, great, great question. I mean as an airport you 12 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: are a passenger or traveler business. Right, You've got travelers 13 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 2: that come and so poor relationships with airlines in regards 14 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 2: to their operation. Obviously you do have retail and then 15 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: part of Oakland Airport obviously also we have the landing 16 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 2: business park and so logistics and warehouse distribution as well. 17 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: The shortage of aircraft globally, is that affecting you? And 18 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: if it is, how badly? 19 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? It is, Mike. It's quite interesting when you look 20 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: at the numbers and start to compare goggly. So we've 21 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 2: finished out that pardon me, the year at about eighty 22 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: six percent. Any even if you look at July eighty 23 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: six percent. That's only up a couple of percent from 24 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: the same time last year, whereas when you look at 25 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: other markets like US, Canada, Great Britain, Singapore, Australia, they're 26 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: all up between ten and twenty percentage points. We're up 27 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 2: to and so there is definitely a lagging for the 28 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 2: New Zealand market comparatively. 29 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: What would your view be on the tourism picture generally? 30 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: Is that part of the problem not enough planes? Is 31 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: it not enough demand? Is there something wrong with us 32 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: because the tourism picture isn't right yet? 33 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 2: I would say it's all of the above, Mike. I mean, 34 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: you have the we're geographically isolated island, so we're a 35 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: long way away. So in their line are saying, right, 36 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: we are short of aircraft, We've already we're already uperating 37 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 2: to profitable routes that potentially are closer and so you 38 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: get a better utilization. New Zealand is what they call 39 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 2: a long skinny route, which means the asset is a 40 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 2: way for longer and you've got to see the performance 41 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: to want to invest in it. That being said, airlines 42 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 2: we're talking to are still very positive about New Zealand 43 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: as a destination. And as a place that they do 44 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 2: want to expand. But you often have conversations where you're saying, yep, 45 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 2: when we get our next fleet or as things come back, 46 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 2: you absolutely kind of are one of our next destinations. 47 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: So there's positive signs, but yes, you are seeing those 48 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: global supply chain issues that are having an impact on us. 49 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: What about the domestic scene and how it's being affected 50 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: by the cycle recession. 51 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a couple of things flying out in the 52 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 2: domestic scene. You know, domestic capacity this year is thirteen 53 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 2: percent down on what it was in twenty nineteen, so 54 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 2: that takes you back to what was twenty sixteen and 55 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: seventeen levels of capacity. Now you're seeing the load factors 56 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 2: up higher as a result of that, and I think 57 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: you've got a tough economic condition, certainly locally here in 58 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: New Zealand. We have issues obviously with things like engines 59 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 2: that have spreen er New Zealand's ability to get that 60 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 2: domestic capacity, and they're working really hard to resolve it, 61 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: but nonetheless it's our issue. And one of the things 62 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 2: that we're also seeing is is there's pockets that are 63 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,399 Speaker 2: spending less, so kind of those and there's forties and fifties, 64 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: the ones you generally would see with children and mortgages. 65 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 2: You're definitely seeing a drop off in that segment in 66 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 2: regards to their travel overall. 67 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:27,119 Speaker 1: You bullish, Oh, listen. 68 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 2: I'm positive, but it is a game of two has Mike. 69 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: You've got international positive signs, lots of conversation with their owns. Now, 70 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: our job is convert that from interest to actual capacity. 71 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: But the domestic market's going to be tough this next year. 72 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: I will be inundated with the usual text about how 73 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: crappy reporters and how long the lines are and how 74 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: they didn't get their bag in terms of experience. You say, what, in. 75 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 2: Terms of experience, I think we've made tremendous headway. And 76 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 2: if we think I recall talking to you, Mike earlier 77 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 2: around queues for example, internationals. You know that's improved forty 78 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: three percent from where it was this time last year 79 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 2: instead of an average of thirty one minutes at seventeen, 80 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 2: so and that's what it should be. That's better than 81 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen performance. But we also know that we are 82 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 2: creating challenges. We are can't deny at the construction site 83 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 2: at the moment, and whilst we're trying to reduce disruption 84 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: to travelers and make sure they're safe. Sometimes that does 85 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: create challenges to customers and we're always reviewing it to 86 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 2: make sure that we're minimizing that. But we have made 87 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 2: significant improvements, but we've got more to do. 88 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: Definitely good stuff, Carring nice to catch up. Appreciate it 89 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: very much, Erry Huda hang Anui, who's the Airport Aukland 90 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: Airport CEO. 91 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: For more from the mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 92 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 2: news talks. It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 93 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio