1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: International correspondence with endsit Eye Insurance, peace of mind for 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: New Zealand business Jonathan Cares. 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 2: The US correspondence with US Jonathan. 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: Has the world ended, Heather? It is? 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 3: I just lost you a bit there, but my word, 6 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 3: the United States is, and much of the rest of 7 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 3: the world. I think we can call today Swift Kelsey Day. 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 3: Is the wedding bells. 9 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: Have been set. 10 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 3: The two year romance is heading down the aisles. 11 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: Everybody can get excited. 12 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 3: There's an album out and there's a wedding coming out. 13 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: It's all happening for Taylor Swift. 14 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: You know what, I knew that you'd be into this. 15 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: How much airtime is getting. There's this getting in the US. 16 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 3: It's dominating airtime and it dominated right across all facets. 17 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 3: There was the US Open Tennis was taking place. As 18 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 3: she took to social media to make the announcement. The 19 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 3: commentary was interrupted to declare that Taylor Swift was engaged. 20 00:00:55,360 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 3: Television news stations broke into a momentary excitement TM website 21 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 3: and their newsroom went into essential meltown, and likewise, in 22 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 3: our newsroom, we jumped full into gear to get all 23 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 3: into the Swift Kelsey action. As She essentially announced the 24 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 3: world that yes, it is happening at even interrupted Donald 25 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 3: Trump's marathon four hour a cabinet meeting where he was 26 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 3: asked himself for his own views. I know that your 27 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 3: Prime minister has opened up New Zealand's doors, opened up 28 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 3: the borders and said come on in, have the wedding, 29 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 3: have the honeymoon there. Maybe if it's not the United 30 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 3: States or Europe or New Zealand or Australia, who knows 31 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,479 Speaker 3: where it could be. But if it is in New Zealand, 32 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 3: maybe they just renamed the country swift Kelsey for a week, 33 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 3: a bit of tourism plug. 34 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: For the nation. 35 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 2: Look, we'll take all the ideas. I mean, I hate 36 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 2: that idea, but you know, all ideas are welcome. 37 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 3: Thank you, Jonathan. 38 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 2: What did we get out of this marathon cabinet meeting 39 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 2: four hours? 40 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 3: What we got was a lot of praise from Donald 41 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 3: Trump's cabinet secretary. 42 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: So, I mean it was four hours. They were all 43 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: in the room together at the White House. 44 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 3: The press were in there for about three hours and 45 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 3: seventeen minutes of it, I think, And it took probably 46 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 3: more than two and a half hours for him to 47 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 3: get around each and every one of his respective secretaries, 48 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 3: and he. 49 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: Does this every single time. 50 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 3: And essentially what they spend these five or ten minutes 51 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 3: each each heaping praise on him and on his leadership 52 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 3: in terms of substance, Well, what we got out of 53 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 3: it with some stuff on Russia and Ukraine, some expressions 54 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 3: of frustration with Vladimir Putin, particularly around Moscow's criticisms and 55 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 3: attacks on Vladimir Zelenski. He used the BS word to 56 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 3: describe that what he said was posturing. Clearly he is frustrated. 57 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 3: It is now almost two weeks since that summit in 58 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 3: Anchorage in Alaska. He wants this conflict to come to 59 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 3: an end. He said he could resolve it in a day. 60 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 3: And maybe, just maybe he's realizing he can't trust Vladimir 61 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 3: Putin as far as he can throw it. 62 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 2: This business about of Vladimir doesn't want to meet with 63 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 2: Vladimir because he doesn't like Vladimir. That sounds like Trump 64 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 2: is already making excuses for Putin, doesn't it. 65 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, look it does, because what he wants is these 66 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 3: two leaders to sit around table first, because it seems 67 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 3: as though that was one of the strictest conditions post 68 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 3: anchorage that the two leaders would meet and then maybe 69 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 3: he would come into play after those two men. Now, 70 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 3: the Kremlin essentially has dodged every single element of the 71 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 3: question about whether this will actually take place, saying that 72 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 3: talks will continue out high range and they're working to 73 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 3: make the conditions right and saying what the Kremlin normally 74 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 3: says in these circumstances. You've also got to try and 75 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 3: understand the idea that the Kremlin essentially half offered an 76 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 3: invite for Voladimir Zelenski to go to Moscow. 77 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: Well, that's not going to happen. 78 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 3: So clearly there is very little movement in terms of 79 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 3: these two leaders meeting. Now, if there's not movement in 80 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: terms of those two leaders meeting, well where is their 81 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 3: movement in terms of peace? 82 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: And then what is Donald Trump's next move? 83 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 3: Because he's essentially seen himself as a peace maker, he 84 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 3: wants a Nobel Peace Prize, he wants the feather and 85 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 3: his cap as having resolved this conflict. 86 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: It is far from resolved. 87 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 3: And essentially, I think what you're seeing is Vladimir Putin 88 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 3: is playing a very long form game chess, as he 89 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 3: has long always done, particularly with Donald Trump and particularly 90 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 3: now with this war. 91 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 2: In ukrame very much so, Jonathan, good to talk to you, 92 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, and congratulations on the Teleswift News today. 93 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: Jonathan Kurzley how us corresponding. 94 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 3: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive. 95 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 2: Listen live to News Talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, 96 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 2: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio