Speaker 1: Welcomes of football fevers talks.
Speaker 2: It's Monday, start of a new week, an exciting week
Speaker 2: ahead and exciting couple of weeks ahead. This is football fever.
Speaker 2: I'm Jason Pine with Bonnie Jansen alongside. We know who
Speaker 2: Auckland FC are going to play in the A League
Speaker 2: Men's semi finals. Bonnie, it's Melbourne Victory. How are you
Speaker 2: feeling about that in general terms?
Speaker 1: Well, I had a feeling this was going to happen.
Speaker 1: Finey I think I've said it for some time. I've
Speaker 1: just you know what that the hurt we all went
Speaker 1: through about this time last year with the Wellington Phoenix
Speaker 1: and how they came so close and Melbourne Victoria are
Speaker 1: so good this time of year. Heading into that elimination
Speaker 1: final over the weekend, I just knew they were going
Speaker 1: to get up despite the incredible form Wes since Sydney
Speaker 1: have had at the moment, I just, you know, thought
Speaker 1: Melbourne Victory are too good at this time of year
Speaker 1: and proved just that.
Speaker 2: Yep, So it proved. You sent me a message saying
Speaker 2: exactly that before the game. I went back to and said, no, no,
Speaker 2: it'll be Western Sydney who come through. So we all
Speaker 2: know who was right there you as per usual a
Speaker 2: two to one win at Combank Stadium, so on Western
Speaker 2: Sydney's home ground for Melbourne Victory, Casey Boss with an
Speaker 2: early goal to put them one up, Zach Sapsford square
Speaker 2: the LEDGEI midway through the first half and then just
Speaker 2: before half times in a den mashash gave Victory a
Speaker 2: two to one lead which they never relinquished. Pretty even
Speaker 2: game really was. I don't know, I was a little
Speaker 2: bit underwhelmed by Western Sydney. I have to sign the
Speaker 2: second half for you know, knowing that this season was
Speaker 2: on the line. Nicholas Milanovitch, for example, had one of
Speaker 2: his quietest games of the whole season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought the same Piney that that first half
Speaker 1: was super exciting. Obviously with the three goals, I thought
Speaker 1: were for sure we were in for a big game.
Speaker 1: But obviously the second half was a little bit more lackluster.
Speaker 1: But no, you're right, Western Sydney have had such a
Speaker 1: good season. They've had the best recent run of other
Speaker 1: than Auckland f C. I believe so. Yeah that it
Speaker 1: was surprising and a real shame their season had to
Speaker 1: be in that way.
Speaker 2: But Melbourne victory. You're right, you know, and I probably
Speaker 2: should have seen this, just know how to get things
Speaker 2: done at this time of the season. They are perennial
Speaker 2: finalists going back through history. I saw a stat yesterday
Speaker 2: they've won more finals games than anybody else in the
Speaker 2: twenty year history of the A League. And they just
Speaker 2: got it done. Daniel Arzani was the standout, assisting the
Speaker 2: first goal and amazing run to set up the winner.
Speaker 2: Before we really unpack it me who would be favorite
Speaker 2: for the semi final? Would it be Melbourne victory with
Speaker 2: their history and their proud pedigree or is it the
Speaker 2: new boys Auckland f who and take you any bias
Speaker 2: out of this, who would be favorite to go through
Speaker 2: to the grand final?
Speaker 1: You know, you look at the season Auckland f C
Speaker 1: of having and it's hard to look past them being
Speaker 1: the favorites, particularly with the defense have had. It's not
Speaker 1: going to be easy for Melbourne to break down. But honestly,
Speaker 1: I feel like Melbourne victory just with the experience that
Speaker 1: they have at this time of year in these knockout games,
Speaker 1: these big games. We don't know what Auckland are like.
Speaker 1: They've shown us time and time again they can get
Speaker 1: up in big moments and they can push right to
Speaker 1: the end of it of a match and get a
Speaker 1: late winner. But you know, this is new territory for Auckland. No,
Speaker 1: new territory doesn't scare them. It hasn't scared them all
Speaker 1: season long. But yeah, it's they'll be feeling nerves, I'm
Speaker 1: sure far more than than Melbourne victory will.
Speaker 2: Now such a unique situation too, across the two legs.
Speaker 2: It's not like anything they've had to do before. Because
Speaker 2: when the final whistle blows on Saturday night, we're only
Speaker 2: at halftime, aren't we in the tie? So we'll talk
Speaker 2: about what a good, bad and in between result is
Speaker 2: in a moment. There is the schedule. Auckland f C.
Speaker 2: Melbourne victory in the semi final Leg one this coming Saturday,
Speaker 2: the seventeenth of May, Amy Park in Melbourne, nine thirty
Speaker 2: five pm New Zealand time, Saturday night. Now, Tyler Street, Sport,
Speaker 2: the brit and Tuckle Tye Square are all hosting watch parties.
Speaker 2: They're putting a big thirty meters screen up in Tucker
Speaker 2: Tie Square having some cage football or DJ and other games.
Speaker 2: So they're saying that's good for families. Tyler Street Sport
Speaker 2: I think is where the port will be, and the
Speaker 2: Brits I think a little more relaxed and suited to
Speaker 2: I guess the less fanatical football fan. I don't know
Speaker 2: any of these places. Have I got that right?
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, I think you've yeah, you've said it. Well,
Speaker 1: it's down in Britamar and it's yeah, big open space.
Speaker 1: It should go well down there. I'm currently tossing up
Speaker 1: myself as a fan whether I go down there and
Speaker 1: watch it and so can all the atmosphere and be
Speaker 1: with people that will be so obsessed with the game
Speaker 1: like I will be, or whether it's better for me
Speaker 1: to sit at home, pony and watch it locked in
Speaker 1: with no distractions. I'm not sure yet. I'm still deciding.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's good Auckland putting on a show. I
Speaker 1: mean we're not surprised, are we, with the amount of
Speaker 1: shows that put on all season.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's a great innovation again by them to not
Speaker 2: only come up with one idea, but you know, three
Speaker 2: different ideas, three different environments that you can watch this
Speaker 2: game from. You've got a few days to make up
Speaker 2: your mind whether you choose one of those environments or
Speaker 2: the environment of your couch. The Second League is on
Speaker 2: the Saturday, May twenty fourth, go Media six o'clock. They're
Speaker 2: adding twenty seven hundred extra seats for the semi another
Speaker 2: eight hundred of Auckland FC make the Grand Final. General
Speaker 2: admission tickets incidentally for the home leg of the Semi
Speaker 2: go on sale tomorrow Tuesday at three o'clock. Members have
Speaker 2: all been having the opportunity already to buy them. Without
Speaker 2: doubt this game will sell out, So Auckland FC Melbourne victory.
Speaker 2: They've played one another twice this season, a nil all
Speaker 2: draw at go Media Stadium on New Year's Day and
Speaker 2: then just three and a bit weeks ago Auckland f
Speaker 2: C won two nil at Amy Park with goals to
Speaker 2: Louis Vustrata and Gizmo May and what is widely regarded
Speaker 2: as one of Auckland f C's best performances of the season.
Speaker 2: In that game, Bonnie, he went with a back five.
Speaker 2: He brought Callen Elliott into the starting lineup, Sarki Hall
Speaker 2: Pinekeer Devrees. They all started the strata Guy Gossen Brimmer
Speaker 2: and midfield My and Rogerson up fronts given it work
Speaker 2: so well, three weeks ago, you reckon he'll go back
Speaker 2: to a back five on Saturday.
Speaker 1: It's so hard to call piney. I don't think he will.
Speaker 1: I think what he'll do instead is start someone like
Speaker 1: Nate Modano, who tends to drop a little bit deeper.
Speaker 1: Ye see, he played with that back three and all
Speaker 1: back five as you like to call it. So well,
Speaker 1: but that was the only time they've really played with
Speaker 1: that this season other than when you know, late in
Speaker 1: the game when they like to bring Tommy Smith on.
Speaker 1: But I don't feel like they'll pull out that one again,
Speaker 1: particularly now that Melbourne victory. No, that's you know, they
Speaker 1: can play that way and they did that so well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe it's a one and done kind of arrangement.
Speaker 2: And yeah they did it, and it was somewhat of
Speaker 2: a surprise to Melbourne victory. It wouldn't be a great surprise,
Speaker 2: to be honest, because again, Steve Corack can go one
Speaker 2: of two ways. He can do that again, or he
Speaker 2: can do what he traditionally does as you say, with
Speaker 2: the back four. Just go SARKI hauled Pinekeer divrees and
Speaker 2: then whatever he decides to do in front. The only
Speaker 2: thing that might be perhaps swinging him towards the five
Speaker 2: is just how good Melbourne victory are. In the attacking
Speaker 2: third mentioned Daniel Larzani, Nishan Vloupola and other current SOCCA
Speaker 2: roon Nikos Virgos, Bruno Fauna Roli who will likely come
Speaker 2: off the bench. Zinnadin Mashasho scored the winner the other night.
Speaker 2: Ryan Tige sort of sits there. They do have a
Speaker 2: lot of attacking threats. I kind of feel like at
Speaker 2: home they'll go for it. So I wonder whether Auckland
Speaker 2: FC might just want to soak that up in the
Speaker 2: first leg.
Speaker 1: Well that's why I don't think they'll go for a
Speaker 1: back three, because they'll want to have that type back
Speaker 1: four and yeah, just not sit off, but do something
Speaker 1: that they've done so well all season, right They've they've
Speaker 1: had the best defense in the league. Maybe it's that
Speaker 1: second game where they do look to attack a little
Speaker 1: bit more with the with wing backs. I'm not sure,
Speaker 1: but I was listening to your show on the weekend
Speaker 1: Pineyer on Weekend Sport with the A League commentator I
Speaker 1: can't quite remember his name.
Speaker 2: Oh, Daniel McBrien, Yes, yes.
Speaker 1: Yes, And I think you guys both thought or Daniel
Speaker 1: thought that maybe Auckland f C would hold off a
Speaker 1: bit in that first game and maybe not attack and
Speaker 1: put full you know, full foot on the throttle. But
Speaker 1: I just think the complete opposite. I feel like Auckland
Speaker 1: f C a not a team to shy away from
Speaker 1: a challenge. And we know Steve Corricer's mentality all season
Speaker 1: has been to win, so I feel like they'll they'll
Speaker 1: go at it and want to you know, get up
Speaker 1: a couple of goals in that first leak.
Speaker 2: We know that the Phoenix didn't do that last season.
Speaker 2: They went to Melbourne victory and we're extremely happy to
Speaker 2: come away with the nil draw to bring back home
Speaker 2: and eventually it didn't work out for them, but I
Speaker 2: don't know whether that was to do with the way
Speaker 2: they played in the first leg. But yeah, okay, they
Speaker 2: answer me this. It's nil all after seventy minutes on
Speaker 2: Saturday night, Okay, remembering it's only the first leg. Seventy minutes.
Speaker 2: So if you look to the bench, do you see
Speaker 2: Jesse Randall coming on or Tommy Smith.
Speaker 1: Steve Cricle will bring on Tommy Smith.
Speaker 2: Yeah, kick, so your close at nil all. That's what
Speaker 2: you're feeling rather than.
Speaker 1: At seventy minutes. But in terms of the starting lineup,
Speaker 1: I feel like he's starting Nita Medano, Gmo, even Maxmutter
Speaker 1: and Logan. You know, I feel like he wants, he
Speaker 1: wants to go hard in that first seventy minutes.
Speaker 2: Yep, look, you may well be right, and I hope
Speaker 2: you're right. Actually, I don't know where there being kg
Speaker 2: actually fits the DNA of Auckland FC. Even when they
Speaker 2: played five at the back that day against Melbourne Victory,
Speaker 2: you know, still from memory anyway, created quite a bit.
Speaker 2: Well they won turnill, didn't they their second goals right
Speaker 2: at the end. But yeah they Yeah, they don't seem
Speaker 2: like a park the bust type of proposition to me.
Speaker 1: You just have to look at their last two games
Speaker 1: right their game against their home game against Perth Glory
Speaker 1: and their final round game against Western United. Both of
Speaker 1: those matches they had already won the league. Yet Steve
Speaker 1: Corricer still put on his best or best about starting
Speaker 1: lineup and where he could have rested players or could
Speaker 1: have gone for a more defensive or more attacking approach,
Speaker 1: you know, he didn't he played his best eleven or
Speaker 1: what he thought at the time and they went for it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I just don't see them, as you say,
Speaker 1: it's not in their DNA. I don't see them, yeah,
Speaker 1: ben kg at all.
Speaker 2: All right, So a good results of win, if they
Speaker 2: bring a win back home, they will absolutely back themselves
Speaker 2: to close that out, either by winning again or by
Speaker 2: drawing in the home league. If it's a draw, I
Speaker 2: thing that's a bad result. In fact, it's one of
Speaker 2: those that if you offered it. Steve Coricker obviously wants
Speaker 2: to win, but if you offered it to him, this
Speaker 2: is hypothetical, he would probably take a drawer and then
Speaker 2: just turn the home leg into a one off game.
Speaker 2: What is the What is a deficit that would have
Speaker 2: you really worried? Like, for example, if they come back
Speaker 2: and if Melbourne Victory win one nill on Saturday night,
Speaker 2: that doesn't seem too bad to me, But I don't
Speaker 2: know what is it. What is a deficit that that
Speaker 2: would be too big for them to pull back?
Speaker 1: Yeah? One nill certainly stresses me out because it's you know,
Speaker 1: the pressures immediately on and you know Melbourne Victory come
Speaker 1: with this mindset where they don't they just can't concede
Speaker 1: you know, and they can come and part the bus
Speaker 1: in Auckland and get in Auckland's head and slow the
Speaker 1: game down and things like that. So one nil, you know,
Speaker 1: definitely able to come back from, particularly with the way
Speaker 1: they sell out and play play at home. But anything
Speaker 1: more than that, yeah, it's a really tough field claim.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's the other thing about these games as well,
Speaker 2: is that if you're one nil down late in the
Speaker 2: game on Saturday night the First League, you've still got
Speaker 2: to defend as though your life depends on it, right
Speaker 2: because you know, one nil is okay, you don't want
Speaker 2: to be coming back two nils, so you've got to
Speaker 2: play the whole ninety minutes on Saturday night. See that
Speaker 2: the mood among the crowd at you know, if it's
Speaker 2: at Britdemat or wherever it is among Auckland FC fans
Speaker 2: will be so interesting because regardless of what happens on
Speaker 2: Saturday night, there won't be this explosion of elation, will there,
Speaker 2: you know, because they haven't made the Grand Final, We've
Speaker 2: only like I say, reached half time. So quite an
Speaker 2: interesting viewing experience as well, Yeah it is.
Speaker 1: And I mean, you know, most football fans and football
Speaker 1: heads know that in these home and away games you
Speaker 1: look at it as the first half. In the second half,
Speaker 1: so well, they won't be able to you know, think
Speaker 1: of it as a done deal. If if they come
Speaker 1: away and win three nil or whatever they do over
Speaker 1: in Melbourne, they can certainly carry some confidence if if
Speaker 1: they're on the right side of the score sheet Auckland Auckland.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's going to be interesting score prediction.
Speaker 1: I think it'll be two nil to Auckland f C.
Speaker 2: All right, I've got a goal of straw in the
Speaker 2: first one. Yeah, I do, I do. Yeah, for whatever reason,
Speaker 2: I just think a goal of straw.
Speaker 1: The deficit I am worried about is injuries or cards
Speaker 1: read cards or injuries. You know, I think that's probably more.
Speaker 1: Maybe Auckland f C's concerned, yes, that their depth is growing,
Speaker 1: but I still do worry about they don't that their
Speaker 1: starting lineup is so so good, that that starting core
Speaker 1: of like eleven to thirteen players, But then after that,
Speaker 1: you know it's getting a bit Nigoli.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's another very good point, another very good point.
Speaker 2: All right. So that's Saturday night, the other semi final
Speaker 2: by the way, home and away between Melbourne City and
Speaker 2: Western United. Western United been Adelade three to two Friday night.
Speaker 2: No a bot, it's got two goals. Both legs of
Speaker 2: that semi are going to be at Amy Park, which
Speaker 2: is a bit odd. I feel a bit for Western United.
Speaker 2: They took the game the other night against Adelaide out
Speaker 2: to iron Bark Fields out at Tarnet, but clearly the
Speaker 2: A League has decided that's not big enough for a
Speaker 2: semi final. So both legs are the semi going to
Speaker 2: be at Amy Park. The first one is on Friday night,
Speaker 2: the second one is on Saturday the twenty fourth, So
Speaker 2: after the Auckland FC melbourn victory one, who is your
Speaker 2: pick to go through from Melbourne City in Western United?
Speaker 1: I think wes Sydney United. I can already feel it now.
Speaker 1: It's going to be a West Sidney United Auckland FC final.
Speaker 2: Do you think then that Steve Corika, the players, anybody
Speaker 2: associated with the club, its fans us, do you think
Speaker 2: that they would rather have Western United knocked out given
Speaker 2: the fact that they've beaten Auckland FC twice reasonably convincingly
Speaker 2: already this season.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. I remember speaking to them at the Auckland
Speaker 1: f C Awards night, which we'll get on too soon.
Speaker 1: But I do remember after a few beverages. It's coming
Speaker 1: back to me, but that Steve Courica and Nick Becker
Speaker 1: and people like them wanted to play Adelaide. They were
Speaker 1: really keen to play Adelaide because they hadn't beaten them,
Speaker 1: and that was kind of their mindset that they wanted
Speaker 1: to get one up. So I do wonder if maybe
Speaker 1: that's their mindset with Western United as well, that they
Speaker 1: want to play the next best team and they want
Speaker 1: to beat the team that they couldn't beat two times.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Maybe they just say that for show
Speaker 1: and they actually would prefer them to get knocked out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's out of their hands anyway, isn't it. You know,
Speaker 2: you can say who would you rather play? You know,
Speaker 2: whoever they play well, First of all, they have to
Speaker 2: look after their own business, don't they, and get through
Speaker 2: to the grand final themselves before we can even talk
Speaker 2: about who they might play. So Melbourne City in Western
Speaker 2: United in one semi final and Auckland FC and Melbourne
Speaker 2: Victory in the other. As you alluded to, Bonnie, you
Speaker 2: went to the Auckland FC Awards night last week the glitzy,
Speaker 2: glamorous affair. I also was at the awards night for
Speaker 2: Wellington Phoenix, which was slightly more subdued, you might say,
Speaker 2: given the season that that had. You were sending me
Speaker 2: information across the evening members Player of the Year, Francis Devrees, Players,
Speaker 2: Player of the Alex Paulson MVP, Gazumo. My you happy
Speaker 2: enough with those three award winners.
Speaker 1: I probably wouldn't have had my as the MVP. I
Speaker 1: was surprised by by that one. I thought he was
Speaker 1: such a standout all season long and the way he
Speaker 1: contributed on and off the boards was incredible. Obviously was
Speaker 1: the top goal scorer as well. But when you look
Speaker 1: at a team that is they have prided themselves on
Speaker 1: their defense all season long, and they've conceded the least
Speaker 1: least goals, why wouldn't you put someone in the back
Speaker 1: line like Alex Paulson, like your Francis Tavreiz, Dan Hall
Speaker 1: or Hiroki Saka.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure, yeah, I said afterwards. I think I
Speaker 2: tweeted this out that you know you if you said
Speaker 2: to a lot of said, a bunch of people are here,
Speaker 2: who's Aukland FC's best player? Being and you ask them
Speaker 2: to name it. I think a lot of people would
Speaker 2: say Hiroki Saka has been across the season, but you know,
Speaker 2: doesn't pick up an award. I'm sure he doesn't care
Speaker 2: at all. And you know you can only give these
Speaker 2: awards to one person, you know. Players player is one
Speaker 2: that I think if you're in a team, you know
Speaker 2: that's the one you probably want to win, right The
Speaker 2: one that is is voted for by your fellow your
Speaker 2: fellow men, your fellow teammates, your fellow women. The players
Speaker 2: player is almost I think, more illustrious, isn't it than MVP.
Speaker 2: I don't don't even know who votes for MVP.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I believe it was a pool of the
Speaker 1: coaching staff and the club staff, So I think either
Speaker 1: of those members. Player of the Year would also be
Speaker 1: cool to win. But yeah, I agree with you Piney
Speaker 1: that that players play. Certainly you want to feel, you
Speaker 1: want to feel good amongst your peers, don't you.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent? Absolutely, that's that's the one I'd want
Speaker 2: to win if I was in a top class football team.
Speaker 2: What was the mood?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: I saw a few photos. I could almost smell the
Speaker 2: after shave.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was it was a fun night. There were
Speaker 1: members from the Port there. It was great to see
Speaker 1: John o' ross there, who was obviously one of the
Speaker 1: founders of the Port, who obviously got Ellen Sydney was
Speaker 1: it Sydney game Melbourne game, and yeah, got stuck over
Speaker 1: in Australia and missed that that final home game, so
Speaker 1: it was good to see him there. And yeah, it
Speaker 1: was a fun night. The players were told they weren't
Speaker 1: able to have a large one and they had training
Speaker 1: first thing the next morning. I believe they said their
Speaker 1: final night for celebrations was that the end of that
Speaker 1: following game Western United. I think they had a big
Speaker 1: night over in Melbourne that weekend and then yet it
Speaker 1: was back full focused on in the semifinals. So no,
Speaker 1: it was a good night. It was a fun vibe
Speaker 1: and you got the sense that this was only just
Speaker 1: the first night of celebrations and they're hoping to do
Speaker 1: something similar in a few weeks hopefully when they left
Speaker 1: the trophy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, slightly odd day that and I think most teams
Speaker 2: do it. They have their awards night before the season ends,
Speaker 2: you know, because they don't know they're going to make
Speaker 2: the finals or whatever. Maybe they've got a book venues.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but yeah, I mean, what if somebody
Speaker 2: is absolutely sensational in the in the two semi finals,
Speaker 2: in the final. But yeah, maybe that is to say,
Speaker 2: maybe they have an extended awards night or something. Wellington
Speaker 2: Phoenix had their awards night last week as well, Costa
Speaker 2: Barbarusis and Annale Longo absolutely cleaning up. Costa Barbarusis won
Speaker 2: Fans Player, Media Player, Players Player, Goal of the Year,
Speaker 2: Golden Boot and MVP, so he went home with plenty
Speaker 2: of medals. Annale similarly Fans Player, Media Player, Players Player,
Speaker 2: Overall Women's Play, MVP and also a very illustrious award
Speaker 2: at Wellington Phoenix HQ, the Spirit of the Phoenix Award,
Speaker 2: which is given out every year to somebody who you know,
Speaker 2: who shows just that really spirit and you know a
Speaker 2: kind of humanity and just the qualities that the club
Speaker 2: and the club owner like owners like to see in
Speaker 2: those who are connected to the club. So Anally Longo
Speaker 2: with plenty of there. Corbyn Piper was the Young Player
Speaker 2: of the Year, Mania Elliott the Young Player of the
Speaker 2: Year for the women. So yeah, like I say, by
Speaker 2: comparison a little bit more subdued. Although I have to say,
Speaker 2: you know, people say, oh, why would you have an
Speaker 2: awards after such a bad season. You still have to
Speaker 2: have them, And I had also acknowledged a lot of people,
Speaker 2: particularly the volunteers, who all got a good night out,
Speaker 2: they got to get dressed up. They know, they enjoyed themselves.
Speaker 2: They look after the volunteers. I have to say, at
Speaker 2: Wellington Phoenix they have awards for them, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 2: It was actually I came away thinking, you know what,
Speaker 2: that was actually okay, given the season that the Phoenix
Speaker 2: have had, that was all right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and at least you know, they would have been
Speaker 1: able to celebrate and not have to think about the
Speaker 1: finals this time around like they had last year. Parney,
Speaker 1: do you think your mate Scott Wotton was ripped off?
Speaker 2: He was second in the MVP voting, So yeah, I
Speaker 2: find it hard not to give it to Costa if
Speaker 2: I'm honest. I know, when we gave out our awards
Speaker 2: last week, I chose Scotty over over Costa barbarusis. But yeah,
Speaker 2: you can see how Costa got it, you know, and look,
Speaker 2: given the fact that he won all of the awards.
Speaker 2: I think the general mood and Annalie as well, whether
Speaker 2: they were the standout, standout place just on Scott Wotton,
Speaker 2: you would have seen this news today. The Phoenix have
Speaker 2: confirmed that he and Sam Sutton leaving the club. They'll
Speaker 2: play in the Australia Cup game against Brisbane Raw in
Speaker 2: Darwin on Wednesday night and then leave, both having played
Speaker 2: over one hundred games and all competitions for the team.
Speaker 2: I think their legacy at Phoenix HQ, both of them
Speaker 2: is pretty sound, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Yeah? I yes, Scott Wooton has been had another great
Speaker 1: season and he was particularly good last season for for
Speaker 1: the Phoenix. I think looking at Sam Sutton, it's the
Speaker 1: right move for him. He was guaranteed minutes at the
Speaker 1: Phoenix and they hope wherever he's going, we think it's
Speaker 1: Perth Glory. But wherever he's going, he continues to get
Speaker 1: minutes because that's going to be crucial if he wants
Speaker 1: to put his hand up for the World Cup next year.
Speaker 1: But no, yeah, two obviously starters and experienced players that
Speaker 1: chief you will certainly miss.
Speaker 2: Indeed, so they as you say, we don't know where
Speaker 2: they're going, we're pretty sure they're going to Perth Glory.
Speaker 2: By the time you listen to this, Perth Glory might
Speaker 2: even have made an announcement on that, but yeah, there
Speaker 2: are They're finished as Phoenix player Sam Sutton and Scott
Speaker 2: Wooton leaving the club following the Australia Cup Wednesday night.
Speaker 2: Just before we leave the Phoenix, Amy Shephard was re
Speaker 2: signed in the last week or so as Wellington Phoenix
Speaker 2: women's assistant coach. She was assistant to Paul Temple, who
Speaker 2: we know is leaving. She'll be interim head coach until
Speaker 2: a permanent appointment is made in late July. Bonnie. In
Speaker 2: late July, Bev Priestman's band runs out. It does two
Speaker 2: plus two make four hair? Surely it does.
Speaker 1: I think something like that, Pinty. You know, when you
Speaker 1: think about Beev Priestman, you know her partner, her wife
Speaker 1: works for the Wellington Phoenix. They seem pretty settled back
Speaker 1: here in New Zealand. The Phoenix, on the other hand,
Speaker 1: have not had you know, a great campaign really in
Speaker 1: any of their seasons in the woman's competition. Bev is
Speaker 1: available as far as I know, and might just be
Speaker 1: the perfect candidate to take this woman's team. And I
Speaker 1: think the thing is is she you know, some people
Speaker 1: might write her off because of that that drone scandal
Speaker 1: last year at the Olympics, but I think what can't
Speaker 1: be forgotten is the fact she's a gold Olympic gold
Speaker 1: medalist winning coach. You know, she coached one of the
Speaker 1: best teams in the world for some time, that being Canada,
Speaker 1: of course, So I hope, I hope. So for the
Speaker 1: Phoenix women's case.
Speaker 2: I remember when we spoke about it on an earlier
Speaker 2: pod that she might be in the mix for the
Speaker 2: Football Ferns job. I thought that might be a bit
Speaker 2: close to home, given the fact that it was the
Speaker 2: Football Ferns that she was caught spying on with the drone.
Speaker 2: But you're dead right. She's a top class coach. Emma Humphries,
Speaker 2: her wife works as academy director at the club. She
Speaker 2: was at the awards night the other night, you know,
Speaker 2: as Emma's wife. So you know, whether you can put
Speaker 2: two and two together there, I think it would be
Speaker 2: a good appointment and one that I think would be
Speaker 2: very palatable to players who were thinking about coming to Wellington.
Speaker 2: If they're trying to attract players and Bev Priestman as
Speaker 2: your head coach, then I think that probably maybe swings
Speaker 2: things in the favor of the Phoenix. We'll wait and
Speaker 2: see that appointment whoever it might be expected in late July.
Speaker 2: This is football, even and so we moved to the
Speaker 2: Ninja A League. The A League Women's Competition semi finals
Speaker 2: are done. The second leag Eggs Claudia Bunge and Melbourne
Speaker 2: Victory safely through to the final six' to two on
Speaker 2: aggregate back to back three to one wins Over Adelaide.
Speaker 2: United they will play The Central Coast, mariners who have
Speaker 2: made it through to their first EVER A League Women's
Speaker 2: Grand final courtesy of a one nil win Over Melbourne
Speaker 2: city right at the end of extra time. Yesterday Isabel,
Speaker 2: gomez of, course Former phoenix, player scoring the goal in
Speaker 2: the one hundred and twentieth, minute just as we were
Speaker 2: all ready for a penalty shootout to send The mariners.
Speaker 2: THROUGH i have never seen a more blatant offside goal than.
Speaker 1: That it's actually AM i completely agree, Firstly. Piney, SECONDLY
Speaker 1: i feel really bad for the lino and the referee
Speaker 1: because they're going to have to go back and look
Speaker 1: at that on replay and just know they absolutely got that.
Speaker 1: WRONG i feel terrible for The Melbourne city players that you,
Speaker 1: know after their incredible beaten season that that's how their season.
Speaker 1: Ends maybe it's one that they can just laugh at
Speaker 1: and know they were absolutely. Robbed i'm not. Sure and,
Speaker 1: yeah it JUST i don't even want to get started on, It,
Speaker 1: piney because it just rous me up on why still
Speaker 1: there is not firstly more camera angles in the woman's
Speaker 1: game and secondly why there's No. Var it's just a.
Speaker 2: Joke, well Hopefully bond this will be a catalyst for.
Speaker 2: That this will be the incident that will compel them
Speaker 2: to say we can't not Have, var because look what
Speaker 2: happens when we. Don't you know THAT var would have
Speaker 2: pulled that one back, Right you're right the LINE i
Speaker 2: should have got, it. Didn't people make. Mistakes that was
Speaker 2: a big, mistake you. KNOW i think the angle that
Speaker 2: we all saw on, television it just seems so obvious
Speaker 2: That Isabelle gomez was two or three meters. Offside BUT
Speaker 2: i wonder whether this might be the catalyst for investment
Speaker 2: INTO var in The NINJA A, league because otherwise how
Speaker 2: serious are?
Speaker 1: They well you'd think, so you hope. So and you
Speaker 1: know the only Thing i'll except you, know If AUCKLAND
Speaker 1: fc aren't going to get a woman's team next, year
Speaker 1: which also rails me. Up but if they're, nice and
Speaker 1: if that's because THE A league doesn't have enough, money that's.
Speaker 1: Fine But i'm hoping that that money is being spent,
Speaker 1: wisely and it is being spent ON. Var that should
Speaker 1: be the, first the first point of.
Speaker 2: CALL i, think, YEAH i don't think you'll get an
Speaker 2: argument from anybody who watched that game. Yesterday even The
Speaker 2: mariness Coach Emily husband, Said i'm going to be honest with.
Speaker 2: YOU i knew it was, offside but the flag didn't
Speaker 2: go up and that's, football, look you, know and she's,
Speaker 2: right she's. Right you, know this isn't the first decision
Speaker 2: that's been missed by. Officials you, know many many were
Speaker 2: in the PRE var. Era Melbourne city Coach Michael, MATRASIANI
Speaker 2: i thought he was quite Diplomatic. Ashley he, says, yeah
Speaker 2: of courses, offside but these things. Happen everybody makes, mistakes
Speaker 2: so THAT'S i think that's very magnanimous of him to,
Speaker 2: not you, know chuck his toys out of the cock
Speaker 2: AS i tell you WHAT i would Have Melbourne city,
Speaker 2: though like they, were in some ways the architects of
Speaker 2: their own. Demise they Lost Lordes bosh after twenty five
Speaker 2: minutes for an inexplicable red. CARD i don't know what
Speaker 2: she's doing here in such a big. Game you, know
Speaker 2: she got into a bit of AN rgi bargie and
Speaker 2: just basically threw her hands in an opponent's. Head there's
Speaker 2: only one way you're going to go from, there and
Speaker 2: that's off the. Field.
Speaker 1: YEAH i saw clips of, that and, YEAH i just
Speaker 1: that's the, thing LIKE i mentioned before with The AUCKLAND,
Speaker 1: defc we can't be having any of, that you, know
Speaker 1: they can't be you, know in these home and away,
Speaker 1: leagues it's a little you gotta play things a little
Speaker 1: bit safer and, yeah probably just silly heat of the moment.
Speaker 2: Stuff Melbourne city also Lost holly, McNamara who's such a
Speaker 2: big player for, them with concussion after eighteen. Minutes so
Speaker 2: even if they had made it through to the, final
Speaker 2: she probably wouldn't have been available And bosh would. Neither
Speaker 2: she would have been serving a. Suspension they're not. There
Speaker 2: The mariners Against Melbourne Victory Amy park this Coming sunday
Speaker 2: at five point, fifteen just before we go a couple
Speaker 2: of of kiwis. Overseas Chris wood scored his Twentieth Premier
Speaker 2: league goal of the season this. Morning wasn't enough to
Speaker 2: Give forest victory Over, lester but eighty nine all Time
Speaker 2: Premier league goals now For Chris, Wood Michael boxall Marked
Speaker 2: Leonel messi. YESTERDAY i love This Minnesota united against Into
Speaker 2: miami And boxy played pretty well actually even threw in
Speaker 2: a long throw for an assisted goal in there for one.
Speaker 2: Win And Ben wayne has been released By Plymouth. Arguyle
Speaker 2: Ben wayne does not have a. Club can you see
Speaker 2: him back in THE A league with Either Wellington phoenix
Speaker 2: or Even AUCKLAND fc next?
Speaker 1: Season not, REALLY i would love for that to be.
Speaker 1: TRUE i feel like we had similar discussions this time
Speaker 1: last year About jackie hand and whether you know she
Speaker 1: would potentially come back and play in THE A. League
Speaker 1: obviously she's The Football ferns, forward AND i feel like
Speaker 1: when You Ben wayne's on a similar kind of, level and,
Speaker 1: YEAH i mean it be. Great he'd be guaranteed. Minutes
Speaker 1: that's what these players. Need we speak about it almost
Speaker 1: every podcast about these all whites. Players but, NO i
Speaker 1: feel like he's done really well over seas and maybe
Speaker 1: he will want to stay over In.
Speaker 2: Europe, YEAH i just wonder whether he has to be,
Speaker 2: playing you, know especially given Its World cup. Time, again
Speaker 2: these guys just know they have to be somewhere where
Speaker 2: they're getting. Games, Look i'm sure his agent's got irons
Speaker 2: in the, fire but he knows if he comes back
Speaker 2: here and plays for either The phoenix Or auckland F.
Speaker 2: C If Max marta, goes for, example he might get
Speaker 2: recalled from his, loan he might not be. There Ben
Speaker 2: wayne's a straight swap For Max marta At auckland F.
Speaker 2: C if he comes To Wellington, phoenix he knows he's
Speaker 2: going to play every week and so in the lead
Speaker 2: up to A World CUP i wonder whether that's the
Speaker 2: most important. Thing and If auckland F c have shown
Speaker 2: us anything it's the players can come, back play well
Speaker 2: and then go again if they want. To Nando pinneker
Speaker 2: is an absolute case study in this wasn't really sure
Speaker 2: what he was going to, do came back, here has
Speaker 2: said a terrific. Season we'll probably have one maybe two
Speaker 2: more in then go. Again there's nothing wrong with that
Speaker 2: For Ben, wayne AND i don't Reckon he's only twenty
Speaker 2: two to twenty three years. Old there were plenty of,
Speaker 2: time but he has to be.
Speaker 1: PLAYING i find it hard to see him going To AUCKLAND,
Speaker 1: fc given he is a hut boy and played you,
Speaker 1: know very well for The Wellington phoenix for some. Time
Speaker 1: but you never. Know there might be a bit more
Speaker 1: uproar from from both clubs after what happened To Alex
Speaker 1: paulson And Logan. ROGERSON i guess.
Speaker 2: Too, yeah different, situation but, yeah who. KNOWS i, MEAN
Speaker 2: i THINK i think the next twenty thirty forty years
Speaker 2: will be littered with players who play for. Both you,
Speaker 2: know there's a lot of players who play for. Both
Speaker 2: Melbourne victory In Melbourne, City Western, United SYDNEY. Ffc everyone jumps.
Speaker 2: Around Once AUCKLAND fc has been around for a, Decade
Speaker 2: i'm sure you will find players who play for.
Speaker 1: Both the leveraging of these two odd players between these
Speaker 1: two clubs have be, insane Right they would probably be
Speaker 1: threaten to Know i'm going to The, phoenix So i'm
Speaker 1: going To AUCKLAND. Fe it'd be, great it'd be great
Speaker 1: to be behind behind those doors and in the involved
Speaker 1: with the agent's. CONVERSATIONS i don't mind.
Speaker 2: That, ACTUALLY i don't mind that because up until, now you,
Speaker 2: Know New zealand player have only had The, phoenix so you,
Speaker 2: know often it's a matter of, okay take it or leave,
Speaker 2: it you. Know from that To, LEAVERRIDGE i don't think
Speaker 2: it's too. BAD i don't think it's too. Bad, Hey,
Speaker 2: bonnie good luck making your decision. Around we are going
Speaker 2: to watch the game On saturday. Night what are you
Speaker 2: leaning towards as we sit here On monday?
Speaker 1: Afternoon, well like hearing that you're going to be Commentating
Speaker 1: piney AND i don't have to listen to The. AUSSIES
Speaker 1: i think Probably i'm going to have to be locked
Speaker 1: in at home and THE tv on full. Volume, Okay, well.
Speaker 2: LOOK i hope that's not the tipping point in your decision,
Speaker 2: making Because i'm sure they'll have the commentary on down
Speaker 2: at the fans own as. Well, yeah looking for looking
Speaker 2: forward to to commentating this. One, look whatever you, decide
Speaker 2: enjoy the. Game we'll reconvene a week from now and
Speaker 2: see which of our, predictions if either of, them is
Speaker 2: right with this first. Leg but until, then, everybody thanks
Speaker 2: for joining us On Football. Fever see you Next, monday
Speaker 2: Bonny Ma too a