1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Bridge Wall Streets. Heavyweight banks have kicked off earning season 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: there and the message is pretty clear US consumer is bending, 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: but certainly not at this point breaking. Sam Dickey from 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: Fisher Funds is with me now, Hey Sam, good evening, right, 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: So where are we at this reporting season? Who's reported 6 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: so far? How the result's been looking. 7 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 2: Yes, we're less than ten percent of the way through. 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: But the big US banks always kick things off, and 9 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: they've got a pretty good bird's eye view of the 10 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: US and the global economy. And they mostly beat expectations, 11 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: which is quite interesting given how bearish sentiment was sort 12 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 2: of two months ago. So JP Morgan and City Bank, 13 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 2: especially two giant banks, beaty expectations and that's probably no 14 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 2: surprise now given stock markets through at all time highs 15 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 2: and bond markets have been volatile, so their trading floors 16 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: have been humming and minting cash and. 17 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: How households spending habits going at the moment starting to crack? 18 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 2: Yet, yes, that they do have a great view of 19 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 2: that and the answer is not yet. So JP Morgan's 20 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: Jamie Diamond said the consumer is resilient still and City 21 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: Group CEO said the consumer is holding up nicely. Bank 22 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 2: of America said solid consumer spending data and no signs 23 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 2: of a recession. 24 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: All right, So what rests of the bank's really worried 25 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: about here? Sam? 26 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's a really good question, because everything we've 27 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,279 Speaker 2: talked about so far was backwards looking for the first half, 28 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: and most sounded notes of caution for the second half. 29 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 2: So Wells Fargo said they expect pressure on borrowing demand 30 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: for the rest of twenty twenty five because interest rates 31 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: remain high. Jamie Diamond lamented how expensive equity markets looked 32 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: and asset prices look pretty high. And as a group, 33 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 2: they all talked about the risks of geopolitics, US government 34 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: debt levels and generally higher interest rates pressuring the ability 35 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: of the US government to to pay the interest on 36 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: that debt, and of course, the uncertainty of tariffs and 37 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 2: whether they'll kick in in August was talked about a 38 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 2: lot by the big banks. 39 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, still a lot of it on setting around that. 40 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: What does all this mean for investors? Sam? 41 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: The US economy remains exceptionally robust, and we've seen this 42 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 2: many times since COVID when people expected a recession as 43 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 2: at April for example this year, post Liberation Day and 44 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 2: it just remains very, very robust. But stop market sentiment 45 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: is red hot. It's been an incredible run in equity 46 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: market since April the eighth. And the only other thing 47 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 2: I would say is it's all about AI at the moment, 48 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: and any company with AI and the name is going up. 49 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 2: And it does seem like the US economy is a 50 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 2: little bit of a sideshow at the moment until it's not. So, 51 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 2: I would just say in a note caution there given 52 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 2: the exceptional run that equity markets have had. 53 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: And it has been exceptional, Sam, thank you for that. 54 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: Sam Dickey Fisher Funds. 55 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive listen live to 56 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 2: news talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays FOLLO the 57 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: podcast on iHeartRadio