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Speaker 1: In de Bradia. UK correspondents back of us Indo.

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Speaker 2: How are you hello, Heather. I'm great. Yeah, just back

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Speaker 2: in the UK literally just landed from Peru, so kind

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Speaker 2: of getting my head around being in London again. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's stretching and we've been following your progress and the

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Speaker 1: fact that you did was it two leagues out of five?

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Speaker 2: Yes, So I called it a day. At the end

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Speaker 2: of stage three, I was five kilometers from the end

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Speaker 2: in the Amazon and it was getting dark, and I'd

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Speaker 2: seen some very seriously good runners get injured leg breaks, ankles,

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Speaker 2: collar bonds, dislocated shoulders. One woman collapsed because of the humidity,

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Speaker 2: and I thought they're all far fitter and more knowledgeable

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Speaker 2: than me. And I was faced with the prospect of

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Speaker 2: heading back into the Amazon as night fell with a

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Speaker 2: head torch and it was like an assault course. I

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Speaker 2: mean it was heat, humidity, altitude, every insect in the

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Speaker 2: world trying to eat you alive. It was an amazing experience,

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Speaker 2: but I called it a day. At the end of

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Speaker 2: stage three, met some rod There was some rugby blocks

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Speaker 2: from South Africa who were very much fun to be around,

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Speaker 2: and one of them said to me, we've got a

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Speaker 2: minibus leaving here out of the Amazon. There's a space

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Speaker 2: for you. Do you want to come drink some cold beers?

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Speaker 2: So I spent seven hours, seven hours on a minibus

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Speaker 2: with these rugby blokes from East London in South Africa,

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Speaker 2: and they were so much fun, hilarious.

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Speaker 1: Fellas loading you in the minibass. How nice would you

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Speaker 1: have got out?

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Speaker 2: You basically stay with the race until each stage concludes,

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Speaker 2: so you will, but it was like sleep, sleeping in

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Speaker 2: hammocks to humidity. It's called the jungle Ultra. They call

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Speaker 2: it the most difficult race in the world, and it

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Speaker 2: absolutely is. It's not. It's not a running race for me.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm done with ultra running. I'm gonna go back

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Speaker 2: to marathons on flat surfaces in lovely cities, and at

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Speaker 2: some stage I'll visit New Zealand and we will drink

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Speaker 2: something cold and nice at the end after forty two kilometers.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, if you give me enough of

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Speaker 1: a hits up that you can and I might do

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Speaker 1: the marathon with you. I mean, obviously I'm not doing it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not doing it with you because of You're like, whooa,

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Speaker 1: why I hear it? I'll be behind, but I might.

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Speaker 2: Give it a home for you. Amazing. We'll find an

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Speaker 2: amazing charity in New Zealand and I'll hold you to

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Speaker 2: that promise.

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Speaker 1: Myself in trouble already. Okay, Now this winter, this winter

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Speaker 1: fuel payment, U turn, What a surprise, wasn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, it was a stupid move to begin with.

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Speaker 2: Starmer and Rachel Reeves said that there was no money

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Speaker 2: we can't afford to be giving rich pensioners, you know,

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Speaker 2: six hundred dollars every winter for their fuel allowance. There

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Speaker 2: is an issue in that. Yeah, every every pensioner gets it.

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Speaker 2: And yes there are many many millionaire pensioners who don't

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Speaker 2: need it. But unfortunately the people who support labor, the

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Speaker 2: working class do need that payment. FRAS has been making

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Speaker 2: political hay on this and Starmer's been basically forced into

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Speaker 2: a very embarrassing climbdown. So they now need to find

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Speaker 2: two and a half billion dollars to fund it.

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Speaker 1: Listen, Inda, I feel uncomfortable about this. Who has told

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Speaker 1: Gary Lineka that he can't speak at this memorial service.

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Speaker 2: So Lineker, the England X soccer player and very famous

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Speaker 2: broadcaster now from the BBC, who has just quit the BBC.

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Speaker 2: He was lifelong friends with a sportswriter called Brian Glanville,

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Speaker 2: who was one of the best writers. I used to

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Speaker 2: read him when I was a kid in Ireland. He's

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Speaker 2: passed away at the age of ninety three. There is

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Speaker 2: a memorial service coming up now. Brian Glanville was Jewish.

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Speaker 2: His daughter decided that she would like Gary Lineker to

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Speaker 2: speak at the memorial service, and now the sun has

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Speaker 2: come out and said categorically not, we can't have him speaking.

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Speaker 2: My father was a proud friend of Israel and what

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Speaker 2: Lineker retweeted the other week with the Ratamoji was basically

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Speaker 2: symbolic of the Nazis in the nineteen thirties and forties.

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Speaker 2: So Lineker won't be speaking at the memorial service. I

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Speaker 2: think it's a great shame because Gary is such a

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Speaker 2: kind man. He is not anti Semitic. I think, like

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Speaker 2: a lot of us, he has very serious concerns about

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Speaker 2: what Israel is doing in Gaza, and he has spoken

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Speaker 2: up and raised his voice. But unfortunately, the son of

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Speaker 2: Brian Landville believes that it would be the wrong thing,

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Speaker 2: and ultimately it's a family service for his dad's so

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Speaker 2: he gets the call. But it's a shame for Gary

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Speaker 2: because I think Gary's getting such an awful backlash for

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Speaker 2: something which he has apologized for and said it was

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Speaker 2: Had he seen that Emogi, he would not have retweeted

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Speaker 2: it too right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, as you say, it is his call, but

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Speaker 1: the divisions continue. Enda, thank you very much, really appreciate.

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Speaker 1: We'll chat you in a couple of days. Enjoy your

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Speaker 1: break being home, Enda Brady, UK correspondent.

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