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Speaker 2: Be gutta and welcome to Inside Nipple, our full crew
Speaker 2: on board today to review round one, preview Round two,
Speaker 2: and chat with Stars coach Timmy Patter Bailey Jin.
Speaker 3: You had the weekend of resting your new eyes.
Speaker 4: My new eyes, I can see everything.
Speaker 2: Well, what did you see from the couch? What was
Speaker 2: your key observation from round one?
Speaker 4: I think my key observation was fitness. All the players
Speaker 4: except sadly for the Stars three were fit and the
Speaker 4: one that exemplified it Karen Berger in the warm up
Speaker 4: going backwards and fords but and not breaking a She
Speaker 4: was doing the interview with Leslie Murdoch not even hesitating.
Speaker 4: I thought that was super impressive.
Speaker 2: And you were back on the mic covering the my
Speaker 2: six Stars game, not the start new coach Timmy Putter,
Speaker 2: baby was after decimated with injuries, three going down in
Speaker 2: the match. Yeah, that was just heart renting to watch.
Speaker 2: So disappointed for Bubby. But I think if any player,
Speaker 2: former player that is now a coach can can rally
Speaker 2: this side together.
Speaker 4: It's here and Leana.
Speaker 2: She knows what injuries can do and how it can
Speaker 2: really garner a team together. So let's hope the injuries
Speaker 2: aren't so bad. We're going to check to her later on.
Speaker 2: But also for the Mystics, I was very impressed with
Speaker 2: Danelle Wallam.
Speaker 3: You know, she's replaced Grace and Wiki.
Speaker 2: I think she will be doing a fair job at
Speaker 2: the back there with Toyava. So it was a great
Speaker 2: start for the Mystics. Yeah, disappointed with the Stars, but
Speaker 2: let's hope they can pull together for a round two. Yeah,
Speaker 2: tough start for the new coaching duror of Leanna and
Speaker 2: Timmy Putter. Yet, despite the busy week ahead, Bubby has
Speaker 2: kindly agreed to speak with us and talk us through
Speaker 2: the coaching trials and tribulations.
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Speaker 2: Welcome Bubby. So great that you could join us. Not
Speaker 2: the easiest of starts, though. It must have put it
Speaker 2: on the heart string seeing three of your players go
Speaker 2: down with injury.
Speaker 5: Oh my god.
Speaker 6: If I knew that was going to happen, maybe I
Speaker 6: wouldn't have taken the wrong Yeah, it was really disheartening actually,
Speaker 6: Like first, obviously Grea and then Katie and then Charlie
Speaker 6: at the end, so very disheartening, but as always the
Speaker 6: girls kind of just soldiered on and did the best
Speaker 6: that they could where her players pay out of position
Speaker 6: and looked down the bench one part and there was
Speaker 6: only Leana and Mitchell how and the coaches. So yeah, no,
Speaker 6: it was definitely an introduction to head coaching.
Speaker 2: In the Yangs and I guess people will will be
Speaker 2: wanting to know Bobby what the injury update or status
Speaker 2: is of those players and perhaps replacement player moving forward
Speaker 2: to round two.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so Katie has got a little tear in her
Speaker 6: planter Fasha, so she's probably well, I'm not sure when
Speaker 6: terms to the front time frame, but not that long
Speaker 6: because it heals itself. Apparently we're just waiting for confirmation
Speaker 6: around Grea, hoping it's positive. But as we saw when
Speaker 6: she foul, it didn't look that good. And you got
Speaker 6: Annie Uspisher, you you'll know that kind of stuff. I
Speaker 6: don't want to say it just in case it thinks
Speaker 6: if it's not, and then we're lucky with Charlie so
Speaker 6: she'll be all good for the weekend. She rolled her
Speaker 6: ankle and rolling her ankle I think her calf cramped from.
Speaker 5: The role and try to save it.
Speaker 6: Apparently that's what the physio said, so she she'll be
Speaker 6: good to go on Sunday.
Speaker 5: So just wanting for Grea and then in the meantime,
Speaker 5: we're Ma's Kayla Cullen to join us.
Speaker 2: Yes, she's stolen her from my Swish team. I would
Speaker 2: have we would have.
Speaker 3: Won last night with her. So you're in my bad books, Bobby.
Speaker 6: Well, if and when and hoping we'll win on Sunday, Danny,
Speaker 6: would that be enough?
Speaker 3: Maybe?
Speaker 2: Did only if you lead her come back for Tuesday
Speaker 2: normal fitness on Tuesday nights please.
Speaker 3: Bobby? Sometimes?
Speaker 4: Oh sorry, you continue. Sometimes adversity, you know, can bring
Speaker 4: a team closer together. How have the players got together
Speaker 4: and sorted it out?
Speaker 5: Oh? Yeah, really good.
Speaker 6: I don't I watched the game back and I saw
Speaker 6: just you know, off play there they were just like
Speaker 6: grabbing each other's hands and squeezing them and it definitely
Speaker 6: does bring them a lot tighter, and you're coming in
Speaker 6: and like getting them to My was really good at
Speaker 6: leading that space.
Speaker 5: In terms of you know, we've just got one thing
Speaker 5: to concentrate when we're on there.
Speaker 6: We're playing for our players off the court. Obviously once
Speaker 6: a game had finished, there are a lot of tears.
Speaker 6: I think a lot of emotion going around.
Speaker 5: And then it's the ability to.
Speaker 6: Deal with it and move on because we've got a
Speaker 6: season to go, and yeah, we use that as probably fire.
Speaker 5: And you know, enticement to do better again for them,
Speaker 5: for our.
Speaker 2: Players aside from those injuries, which has been a really
Speaker 2: tough start for you. How have you enjoyed we've been
Speaker 2: back home and having this new head coach role.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I think initially Diana, I was like, what am I
Speaker 6: doing when you're getting off the plane? It was raining
Speaker 6: coming from the Gold Post and obviously not having contact
Speaker 6: with our players.
Speaker 5: Until one of the new year. But now it's yeah,
Speaker 5: it's awesome.
Speaker 6: Love being in amongst the team environment, as you guys know,
Speaker 6: love that team environment, but also having family. All the
Speaker 6: grand kids are here and spending time with them all together,
Speaker 6: and obviously Dina as well because and Aaron's back at
Speaker 6: the same time, so having that family kind of connection
Speaker 6: there as well as been.
Speaker 2: Some Oh yes, we've been watching Aaron. He's doing very
Speaker 2: well with the Warriors. You spent a few years with
Speaker 2: the Gold Coast Titans, Bubby. When you look back, how
Speaker 2: much influences that had now on your coaching here in
Speaker 2: New Zealand would have been your biggest takeaways with your
Speaker 2: time in Australia.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think probably that was the best decision for
Speaker 5: me to move over there.
Speaker 6: I think I kind of went over there at the
Speaker 6: time before I left, Sorry, when I was here. I
Speaker 6: finally I think it was just going through the motion,
Speaker 6: so you know, I was Keay coach for the comments,
Speaker 6: and then doing some assistant stuff with the Stars and
Speaker 6: then just really really starting that high performance coaching space.
Speaker 6: Going over to Gold Coast. There was you know, there's
Speaker 6: no expectation. I think I was allowed to just do
Speaker 6: what I do and create a pathway in the Gold
Speaker 6: Coast for girls and boys going through it, but also.
Speaker 5: Get the opportunity to coach. And I think having that
Speaker 5: wide variety of opportunity and creating an environment from scratch
Speaker 5: was an awesome experience.
Speaker 6: Obviously learned a lot. I think the biggest takeouts from there.
Speaker 6: It's definitely made me understand that I can coach and
Speaker 6: I am Timmy Para.
Speaker 5: Because people used to me as Timmy Park who coached.
Speaker 6: And was a former former athlete, tim myfi the former
Speaker 6: athlete who coached, And now I can whole hardly say
Speaker 6: that I am Tim Emperor, the coach who was a
Speaker 6: former athlete.
Speaker 5: So it's giving me as the confidence and belief that
Speaker 5: you know, I'm.
Speaker 6: Not the same as other coaches, but I do believe
Speaker 6: in what I do. And making sure you're having the
Speaker 6: right people is a massive thing that I've learned.
Speaker 4: How far do your aspirations go? I mean, are we
Speaker 4: going to see you Timmy para silver Firm coach one day? Well?
Speaker 6: Gun, you know, as a player, you always want to
Speaker 6: be a Silver Pard and I think and it probably
Speaker 6: past two or three years, you kind of think of
Speaker 6: what's next, and you're obviously A and Z or you know,
Speaker 6: in the top level head coaching, you've got to do
Speaker 6: your time.
Speaker 5: It's like when we used to say as a player,
Speaker 5: you got to do your time.
Speaker 6: On the bench to actually appreciate the time in the game.
Speaker 6: So I that's what I'm doing. You know, obviously, if
Speaker 6: an opportunity comes up, I'll put my hand up, and
Speaker 6: I think that's an experience you've got to go through
Speaker 6: as well in terms of that. And if it's no
Speaker 6: at the other end. Then you just keep going. You know,
Speaker 6: you're very fortunate to be in a position to create
Speaker 6: an environment for girls to you're not only be the
Speaker 6: best on court, but also off the court. So I'm
Speaker 6: really enjoying it. I'm really enjoying it.
Speaker 2: What about the new rules, how are you enjoying those?
Speaker 2: And tactically what's the best way to use those timeouts?
Speaker 2: When should you be taking those two point shots? You know,
Speaker 2: what's your take on the on the tactics of these
Speaker 2: new rules?
Speaker 5: Yeah, the timeouts.
Speaker 6: Timeouts are interesting because they're really good to have, and
Speaker 6: we played those last year in the Gold Coast Queens
Speaker 6: and competition, and they're really good if you're you kind
Speaker 6: of have had a run on you for five or
Speaker 6: you know, you just need a timeout to get everyone
Speaker 6: to settle and then to regroup and go out.
Speaker 5: I haven't actually now those.
Speaker 6: You're trying all different scenarios for this grip, but I
Speaker 6: don't think i've now them. I think we used the
Speaker 6: two time mounts in the last game because we needed
Speaker 6: to emotionally reset and come together as a group because
Speaker 6: of what was happening. The two point shot I just depends,
Speaker 6: like I think, for our shooters. We just say to like,
Speaker 6: we do have a structure in terms of when you're
Speaker 6: going to go and when you're going to actually take
Speaker 6: the one point shot, but other than that, it's just
Speaker 6: about feel and if they're feeling like they're hot, then
Speaker 6: you go for it.
Speaker 5: And I think you saw in the last five minutes of.
Speaker 6: The last quarter we were just like, just have a
Speaker 6: go because we were down by about fifteen by that stage,
Speaker 6: and we probably wouldn't do that if we were a
Speaker 6: lot closer, we would you know, aim for the ones
Speaker 6: and try and get the ball back and go again.
Speaker 6: So yeah, so probably different circumstances, schools for different strategies.
Speaker 6: Just as long as we've got those strategies.
Speaker 2: Well, you were hot in the first quarter. I don't
Speaker 2: think that was missing.
Speaker 5: It's like, yeah, let's yeah.
Speaker 2: Anyway, you didn't use the coaches box though, did you.
Speaker 2: I didn't see out there strutting your stuff.
Speaker 6: I did, actually, but it was that it must have
Speaker 6: been when it was down the other court because the
Speaker 6: defenders needed some instructions about driving the ball down.
Speaker 5: I was going to get up there and go, okay,
Speaker 5: come here.
Speaker 2: You talk about now you feel like you've got that
Speaker 2: confidence to be timmy part of the coach. What do
Speaker 2: you think your strengths are, because I guess moving forward
Speaker 2: the adversity that you've started with with all these injuries,
Speaker 2: how much of a strength do you think it is
Speaker 2: the fact that you know you've been a former player,
Speaker 2: Leanne has been a former player to actually get these
Speaker 2: players through this difficult time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's it.
Speaker 6: Any I think being a former playing and being an
Speaker 6: environment where you're.
Speaker 5: Just with the players.
Speaker 6: You know, when you're a player, you have all these
Speaker 6: conversations and you kind of understand where they're coming from
Speaker 6: and the behaviors that they're showing coming out of an
Speaker 6: experience like that. I think that's the big thing. And
Speaker 6: I think too, I like to be someone that has
Speaker 6: an open door policy and that they can come to
Speaker 6: me and just start turn away and listen, listen to
Speaker 6: what they're actually talking about and understand them. Yeah, and
Speaker 6: I'd like to have a bit of fun as well,
Speaker 6: you know, when they're.
Speaker 3: I must have met though, and all the time outs.
Speaker 2: I thought what you were saying to your girls was
Speaker 2: very clear, very concise. You had great clarity. I thought
Speaker 2: you were awesome Bubby to listen to.
Speaker 3: It, Sandy, Yeah, you're doing.
Speaker 6: A great Oh, thank you, I think, And that's I
Speaker 6: think that's the joy of having some amazing coaches and
Speaker 6: not so amazing coaches. I think both both of them,
Speaker 6: like they're amazing and not so Amini has actually offered
Speaker 6: me something in my coaching space.
Speaker 5: And I know, as a player, when you kind of
Speaker 5: get waffle or keep going, it doesn't really mean much.
Speaker 4: Who who was one of the better coaches that you've had.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've had a couple, I think, and just in
Speaker 6: terms of where I was in my career or my
Speaker 6: pathway as a player, I think initially before twenty ones
Speaker 6: of Jen London and then Avon and then obviously going
Speaker 6: into Debt Buller, who's just thinks outside this.
Speaker 5: We're sometimes out the gate, which is worsome.
Speaker 6: And then obviously in the Boon space I had the
Speaker 6: opportunity with obviously Ruth White.
Speaker 5: And also Lynn Gunsoon. She was like that was at
Speaker 5: the end of my career.
Speaker 6: But just little things like the release point of the ball,
Speaker 6: kind of going over the Jamaicans, you.
Speaker 5: Know, and stuff that.
Speaker 6: Well, when you're I don't know how it was, but
Speaker 6: towards the end you think you thought you kind.
Speaker 5: Of knew everything, but you died and then she brings
Speaker 5: that parlor. So yeah, so I was very lucky, very lucky.
Speaker 2: We won't hold you up too long. We'll get to
Speaker 2: our fast five in a second. But one last question.
Speaker 2: We had our predictions last week about who were the
Speaker 2: teens we thought perhaps would make the top three at
Speaker 2: the end of the season.
Speaker 4: Who's you know?
Speaker 3: Yea, so glad to hear you listen though, well done you.
Speaker 2: But if you were going to choose a team, who's
Speaker 2: looking most dangerous after watching that first round, just we
Speaker 2: won't make your name all three, But which team and
Speaker 2: why scares you the most?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I think after watching the teams in the round, I
Speaker 6: think pols are like standouts.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I think with the amount of changing that they had
Speaker 6: to have had all players out preseason, they kind of
Speaker 6: look like it's like just ran smoothly right throughout. And
Speaker 6: the connections they have on defense and the belief they
Speaker 6: have in each other, I think they're probably a stand
Speaker 6: up for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we will want to redo our picks now. Yes,
Speaker 2: we both had pulses. We didn't you didn't.
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Speaker 3: Five kick things off.
Speaker 2: And if you could compete in any other sport, and
Speaker 2: this can be back in the day or now, what
Speaker 2: would it be and why?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I think I would have loved to rug the semonsd
Speaker 6: just that the creativity I mean, obviously I would have
Speaker 6: liked fitness, like because you know what I don't like
Speaker 6: fitness The creativity that they have in that game.
Speaker 5: And they also get to trouble to some really cool
Speaker 5: places as well.
Speaker 2: You would have been good on the tackle, tough on
Speaker 2: the tackle too, Bubby, Who in your Stars team is
Speaker 2: most likely to A get you into trouble and then
Speaker 2: b get you out of trouble? So who would get
Speaker 2: you into trouble? In the Stars side?
Speaker 5: Who would get me into trouble? Probably?
Speaker 3: You would get everyone in trouble. You can't forgive anyone
Speaker 3: because it's you. And therefore, who would get you get
Speaker 3: you out of trouble? Bubbs?
Speaker 5: Who would get me out of trouble? Oh gosh, who.
Speaker 3: Would get Probably?
Speaker 5: Yes she would, though.
Speaker 3: She has a bit sneaky.
Speaker 4: Okay, So who which three athletes would you invite to dinner?
Speaker 4: Dead or alive? Any sport?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 5: Watch three athletes. Oh, I think I remember what I
Speaker 5: said in this.
Speaker 6: I would have loved to like sit down with Lisa
Speaker 6: Carrington and have a conversation with her.
Speaker 5: Who else would that be? Tiny Jemison?
Speaker 6: Actually, I would have loved to have a conversation with her,
Speaker 6: just with regards to.
Speaker 5: What was and how it will happen. Obviously there's been
Speaker 5: meta about what it was.
Speaker 6: Like, but really like understanding like her trips over where
Speaker 6: if she went and stuff, so Tiny Jemison. And then
Speaker 6: a coach I'd love to have a conversation with is
Speaker 6: Wayne Bennett. You know, he's been around for so long
Speaker 6: and just have done some amazing things. But the way
Speaker 6: he gets boys up to.
Speaker 5: The game is just amazing.
Speaker 6: And even the troublesome ones he probably would have been
Speaker 6: the good for me, aren't they?
Speaker 5: What would be?
Speaker 3: What would be your last supper meal?
Speaker 2: And please no disrespect to Patina Simon, please don't let
Speaker 2: it be Taco Bell again, Each to their own bad
Speaker 2: there was one last meal you're having on earth?
Speaker 3: What would it be? What's he go to?
Speaker 5: Yeah? I would I would have my mum's snitchell yum
Speaker 5: yum yum.
Speaker 2: And last one best piece of advice anyone has given you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the best piece of advice was Sandra
Speaker 6: Edge was my kind of idol coming through and I
Speaker 6: got the opportunity to play with her at club and
Speaker 6: I said to Jen London, who was my coach, I said,
Speaker 6: oh my god, I just want to be with her,
Speaker 6: be like her.
Speaker 5: Sorry, I'll be with you.
Speaker 4: Like her.
Speaker 5: That's not a new phase of my life.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just want to be like her. And she goes,
Speaker 6: she set me down, and she goes, why don't you
Speaker 6: be like someone who wants to be like you? So
Speaker 6: why don't you be the person someone else wants to be?
Speaker 6: And I got, yeah, that makes sense. I'll just steal
Speaker 6: all loose trade and try to do them myself, and
Speaker 6: then we'll have other people being a role model for
Speaker 6: other people. So I think that's probably the biggest advice
Speaker 6: I've got. And I was pretty young and you gave
Speaker 6: that to me as well.
Speaker 3: You're getting deep in your old age.
Speaker 4: Very wide.
Speaker 6: The girls welcomed us and when we first came and
Speaker 6: we had the coaches, they.
Speaker 5: Sung a song. I was crying.
Speaker 6: Said, oh yeah, no, crying's good because when we cried
Speaker 6: with the silver ferns we want.
Speaker 2: Love it, love it and love it that you've made
Speaker 2: the time to join us and chat on Inside Netball.
Speaker 2: All the best for Sunday's match against the Technics. Thank
Speaker 2: you very much.
Speaker 3: Thanks so.
Speaker 5: It's a pleasure to seeing your guys and spending time
Speaker 5: with you guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah awesome, See you later. Bye.
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Speaker 2: How mature as Timmy Putter Bailey, Oh man, she has
Speaker 2: come back.
Speaker 4: I don't know what they did to her over there,
Speaker 4: but a different person and I mean my little heart
Speaker 4: was singing when she was implying that she'd put a
Speaker 4: hand up for the silver Fern's job.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just love the fact that she's at a stage
Speaker 2: of her life now where she says that she is
Speaker 2: Timmy Parter Bailey the coach, not the player and pressed.
Speaker 3: Evolving and you know, good on here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was awesome, awesome to hear. Look, before we
Speaker 2: get into round two and the match that the Stars
Speaker 2: are going to be playing against the Tactics, let's cast
Speaker 2: our minds back over the weekend and have a look
Speaker 2: at those results. The first game, it was the Pulse
Speaker 2: versus the Magic on Saturday Parmestan North, the Pulse against
Speaker 2: all of our predictions, came away with the win fifty
Speaker 2: seven forty four.
Speaker 3: But to be fair, jin we were led down the garden.
Speaker 2: Path and we were under the impression that the Pulse
Speaker 2: would not have their full strength squad.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, But then I think, well, how much should we
Speaker 4: read into it? But here's a thing. You can't put
Speaker 4: out a usually stated May the first ahead of a
Speaker 4: game on May the tenth and think that it would
Speaker 4: bear any resemblance to what's going out. But the Pulse
Speaker 4: were I can't think of an area where they were
Speaker 4: you know, no good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were superb because they had Meddi, Gordon and
Speaker 2: Whitney sooner is running that engine room in the middle
Speaker 2: and where you had all predicted that they weren't going
Speaker 2: to be playing. So yes, I think we all picked
Speaker 2: the Magic to win that one.
Speaker 3: Magic for me just a little disjointed.
Speaker 2: I think if you look at the stats, the Magic
Speaker 2: and the Steal Out of the two teams put up
Speaker 2: the most two point shots, Magic had the one of
Speaker 2: the lowest stats with the two point shots. So I
Speaker 2: think strategy wise, round two for the Magic it will
Speaker 2: be to get more one point shots in because I
Speaker 2: think they got it in the goal circle, so I
Speaker 2: think they will get better.
Speaker 4: Well, I think Savior too. He just got played out
Speaker 4: of the game by Kelly Jackson. You know, she was
Speaker 4: taken off and given a bit of a talking to
Speaker 4: and then came back. So look, let's hope things improve
Speaker 4: for the Magic.
Speaker 2: Do you know what I really enjoyed was Ahmadrangi Mulliseller
Speaker 2: coming on and she would play those last five.
Speaker 3: Minutes in each game, and I love the hype that
Speaker 3: she brought.
Speaker 2: You know, again, I keep comparing things Surpass well, normally
Speaker 2: if you get a long shot, you know you kind
Speaker 2: of signal I got a three. She was right in
Speaker 2: there amongst it with her two, and I love I
Speaker 2: love that character. It really added to the game for me.
Speaker 2: And how fitting was it though that the first person
Speaker 2: to shoot the super shot in this competition Emilia and
Speaker 2: Econasio Jet.
Speaker 4: Yeah, bit of a nightmare in other ways, but oh,
Speaker 4: I mean she's who was The commentator was just you know,
Speaker 4: lauding all over her. But the style of the shot,
Speaker 4: the height and the down and the it's beautiful. But
Speaker 4: I just wonder what else The Magic would have been
Speaker 4: working on this week, because I think they've got a
Speaker 4: lot to work on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she was the most accurate echinasio seventy one
Speaker 2: point four percent. You look at a lot of those
Speaker 2: two point shots. Most of them were missed. But that's
Speaker 2: where the magic will keep getting better because they've got
Speaker 2: Ecnasi on their team. Let's talk about the suspension you Annie,
Speaker 2: how unlucky is this player being she must have the
Speaker 2: most suspensions of any player in this league who's along
Speaker 2: with Alia Dunn's I thought were.
Speaker 3: Actually quite ready rough. They were rough. G you screen
Speaker 3: your face up. Tell me why?
Speaker 4: Well you know, okay, y, I don't you know, couldn't
Speaker 4: really tell. But the Done one, I replayed it and
Speaker 4: replayed it and replayed it. There was light between Done
Speaker 4: and the tactics defender. So you know, I just think
Speaker 4: perhaps the umpires just have to pull back a little bit.
Speaker 2: I think so they have to confer as well, because
Speaker 2: they talked about that, and I saw one of the
Speaker 2: stories they did about actually speaking more to each other
Speaker 2: and actually appealing to the other umpire. Should that almost
Speaker 2: be compulsory on a suspension, that you have to appeal
Speaker 2: to the other umpire and confer on a suspension? Was
Speaker 2: the angle we got with was the televised angle right
Speaker 2: called it was the other side, and so it potentially
Speaker 2: would have looked worse. So when you did replay it,
Speaker 2: Berger got the intercept. She had two hands on the
Speaker 2: ball and done looked like she kind of moved her
Speaker 2: upper body to get away from from Burger, but she
Speaker 2: didn't move her feet, and so that's where she would
Speaker 2: have got pulled because you have to give the play
Speaker 2: a landing room.
Speaker 3: Right, a stretch, it's still a stretch.
Speaker 4: Should not have been suspense, No, I mean talking to
Speaker 4: Leslie Murdoch afterwards, she was mystified and there was a
Speaker 4: lot of questions being going to be answered. I think,
Speaker 4: and I think they should earn. If they're going to
Speaker 4: ear they should earn on the on the side of caution,
Speaker 4: not blow anything.
Speaker 2: Well, let's jump ahead to that match. It was the
Speaker 2: Tactics versus the Stair. It was on Sunday. It was
Speaker 2: the last match of around fifty seven fifty to the Tactics.
Speaker 2: It was the inaugural Hutton Family Trophy. I thought that
Speaker 2: was awesome, a memory of the late Kelly Hutton who
Speaker 2: passed away in twenty twenty three from ovarian cancer. So
Speaker 2: that was exceptionally special. Kate Heaven and another one though
Speaker 2: she was ruled out injury late. And then we saw
Speaker 2: the return of Leanda Liota and she got caught time gen.
Speaker 3: Yes, well I think of that.
Speaker 4: I just I'm sorry, and I mean I love Leanna Liota,
Speaker 4: but she's a coach now. And you know, it was
Speaker 4: interesting just listening to what Timmy Potter was just saying,
Speaker 4: you're a coach, You're not a player. You're playing. Days
Speaker 4: are done. You can't tell me that they haven't got
Speaker 4: players that they could have put on. You would have.
Speaker 4: I mean, they wouldn't necessarily have been as good, But
Speaker 4: I just I don't particularly like this place where old
Speaker 4: players come on. And I say, old ex players come on.
Speaker 4: Forty yeah, forty playing wing attack five kids. She did
Speaker 4: pretty good when she came on, but I think Kate
Speaker 4: was a very late scratching. But still you could find
Speaker 4: a player as opposed to a coach. I was actually
Speaker 4: quite impressed with the Steel. I did not think they
Speaker 4: would get within seven of the tactics.
Speaker 3: There's only one going into the last quarter.
Speaker 4: Oh yes, I was glued.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think, yeah, with obviously POI and done
Speaker 2: and they're both from the Tactics. They've had the relationship
Speaker 2: from the Tactics last year. I think that was really
Speaker 2: a good, good connection. And then of course I thought
Speaker 2: Stife picked up some good ball down the defense end,
Speaker 2: which I think could be a good could be a
Speaker 2: good season for her, you know, just bring out some
Speaker 2: experience at the back and leadership for her. And Karis
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Speaker 3: Karis Stife was our goalkeep.
Speaker 2: There was no Stars in that team, unfortunately, but there
Speaker 2: was players representing from all the other matches. Then if
Speaker 2: we skip back again, Mystic Stars, Annie, you were on
Speaker 2: this one. It was the Mystics that came away with
Speaker 2: the win seventy one to fifty five, completely hampered by
Speaker 2: those injuries. But Meila Rulu Buchanan, she was back. She
Speaker 2: was on manage minutes, but she was looking good.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was getting a bit nervous when they did turn
Speaker 2: to the bench when they had no one else because
Speaker 2: she's on return to play protocols as well, but she'll
Speaker 2: be a strength in that mid court. I was really
Speaker 2: impressed with Charlie bow. She put up some good ball,
Speaker 2: I think thirty nine from forty one or something. Her
Speaker 2: steps were very good, big tall shooter at the back,
Speaker 2: and I've never been a massive fan of Mya Wilson
Speaker 2: at goal attack, but you know what she actually did
Speaker 2: all right, Maybe I'm like swinging to that she could
Speaker 2: actually play there the odd time. I mean, she did
Speaker 2: have some time on the bench to have a little
Speaker 2: rest and then she came back on. I just think
Speaker 2: perhaps defensively they still haven't quite nailed it. But obviously
Speaker 2: with Kate going down and then Grea, that was just
Speaker 2: yeah's heart ranging.
Speaker 4: For heartbreaking here. I well, Adean and I went down
Speaker 4: to that game, and yes we were fans in the crowd,
Speaker 4: and when we arrived, we were a bit late and
Speaker 4: the stars were up, you know, and I thought, oh no,
Speaker 4: this is not what I expected. But sitting where I
Speaker 4: was sitting at the end of the court, I was
Speaker 4: able to the sheer magic of Petter Oh. I mean,
Speaker 4: because you're watching it as a commentator, but you're only
Speaker 4: going where the camera's going you know, you're following, not
Speaker 4: just going.
Speaker 3: All off the ball stuff.
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness me and she is a magician, and
Speaker 4: I just thought, wow, wow.
Speaker 3: And it was a bit squeaky today if you leave
Speaker 3: the jacket. Last week it was doors and the toilet.
Speaker 4: This week, I'll take it off.
Speaker 2: The big test for the mystics was going to be,
Speaker 2: you know, that whole connection with Wallom and toy Ava,
Speaker 2: and it was very seamless. It looked like they've been
Speaker 2: playing together for a long time. I mean, at one time,
Speaker 2: I think the comment the cameras were on Peter and
Speaker 2: Tea was saying something and it was just like Peter
Speaker 2: looked pretty grumpy, and it was just like, oh, you
Speaker 2: would not want to get on the wrong side of
Speaker 2: Peter Toyava. She shot fifty two from fifty seven, the
Speaker 2: prolific shooter in that round. We also saw a whole
Speaker 2: lot of two point shots, but only in the first
Speaker 2: quarter and then it went quiet.
Speaker 3: So you know, we actually we actually had a caller
Speaker 3: or a listener, not a caller. That would be good
Speaker 3: if we could take a life all a bit of
Speaker 3: a talk back, but we had a listener. Katiev, thank you.
Speaker 3: Very much.
Speaker 2: She actually brought a conungrum to our attention. In the
Speaker 2: English Super League, there was a controversy around the two
Speaker 2: point shot. It was the Leads Rhinos versus the Panthers.
Speaker 2: The Rhinos super shot should have been two points. It
Speaker 2: was only counted as one and this is what we
Speaker 2: may see in our competition at some point and meant
Speaker 2: they went into extra time and ended up losing in
Speaker 2: extra time. Rhinos are now calling for a VAR system,
Speaker 2: So a replay system, Jen, what do you think of that.
Speaker 2: I know we've had a lot of innovations already. It
Speaker 2: could slow things down even further.
Speaker 4: Exactly, and that's why that's the only reason I'm not
Speaker 4: keen on this VAR. And in fact, the shooter was
Speaker 4: Joyce and Vuller, who you know from Malawi, used to
Speaker 4: be we had a season down here with the pulse.
Speaker 4: I don't know about that, but honestly, and we've seen
Speaker 4: a similar thing in Australia when something was miscounted. I
Speaker 4: just think, you know, the scorers have got to be better.
Speaker 4: But it's all very well saying that we all make mistakes,
Speaker 4: but I just I just don't think VAR will cut
Speaker 4: the mustard here.
Speaker 3: I'm all for it. I'm all for it.
Speaker 2: If it means the calls are going to be corrected
Speaker 2: and are the right ones, why not you would just
Speaker 2: simply go move to the bench, the bench, go No,
Speaker 2: that was a two point, as long as it's quick,
Speaker 2: as long as it's a quick position.
Speaker 4: But look what happens in basketball. You're stopping all the time,
Speaker 4: and you're going across and the refs are chatting and
Speaker 4: waiting for the footage to be you know, play this
Speaker 4: is NBA.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it to be that. It would have to be
Speaker 2: a yeah with a name, a limit, there might be
Speaker 2: only so many challenges. But I think I'm not even
Speaker 2: sure for this example. If you need a v again,
Speaker 2: you're using that basketball example, you know, as a manager
Speaker 2: there and you take a running sheet of the score,
Speaker 2: because in basketball, you're looking to see if it's been
Speaker 2: signaled as a three or a two, and if there's
Speaker 2: a discrepancy, you have to either tell the coach straight
Speaker 2: away who can approach the bench, or you have to
Speaker 2: wait for a break and play. So maybe that's what
Speaker 2: managers have to do now they have and some of them.
Speaker 4: Already do good enough to do.
Speaker 2: But that's just part of your job right, and that's
Speaker 2: pretty important, having the school right. So you need to
Speaker 2: be watching if they've signaled too and if it isn't
Speaker 2: match what you've got on your school sheet, what's on
Speaker 2: the board, you need a challenge it and you need
Speaker 2: to do it straight away.
Speaker 3: And maybe that's when you call that technical timeout.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but I think that's a way of
Speaker 2: solving that without having to go to that bet.
Speaker 4: That's what happened in Australia, I think, and I think
Speaker 4: it was the I can't remember which team it was,
Speaker 4: but they were, you know, saying they didn't stop, and
Speaker 4: they didn't stop.
Speaker 3: They've got to.
Speaker 2: Correct it then in there. I think it's got to
Speaker 2: be then and there if it goes too far. It's
Speaker 2: the only other thing about the new rules, if we're
Speaker 2: just sticking on those. We saw the technical timeouts. I
Speaker 2: felt ninety seconds was too long. Lot of the players
Speaker 2: seemed to be back in position after sixty, so, I mean,
Speaker 2: no one knew until you try these things out that
Speaker 2: My initial impression was perhaps sixty. I did like the
Speaker 2: fact that they could take the technical time out, so Annie, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: And for some of them, the coaches actually weren't saying much.
Speaker 2: It was just a time I think the tactics called
Speaker 2: one and it was just half half of it. They
Speaker 2: were just breathing and just actually having a moment just
Speaker 2: to regroup. Other times we saw the coaches getting in there.
Speaker 2: And actually, you know, when I took just chatting to
Speaker 2: Bubby before, I was really impressed with a lot of
Speaker 2: the coaches.
Speaker 3: During those times out timeouts.
Speaker 2: You know, Donner I thought, got in there and you know,
Speaker 2: she gets her eyes going and she gets really fiery Donnor.
Speaker 2: So she's going to be the fiery coach that's going
Speaker 2: to you know, be great for TV. Bubby I thought
Speaker 2: was very clear and concise and had that real clarity
Speaker 2: with what.
Speaker 4: She was saying.
Speaker 2: And then yeah, Anna Andrews tasol a very good as well.
Speaker 2: So I think the coaches used it well and it
Speaker 2: didn't have to be all about them, you know, saying things.
Speaker 2: It was giving the players a chance just to actually
Speaker 2: breathe can get back out.
Speaker 4: Do you have to use it?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: No, no, no.
Speaker 3: Definitely not.
Speaker 2: All right, let's jump ahead. Now let's look at round
Speaker 2: two matches. First up Saturday Myssedtics v.
Speaker 3: Pulse. It's in Auckland. For me, it's a game of
Speaker 3: the round.
Speaker 2: These two teams were both very successful in round one.
Speaker 2: When you look at the stats, it's pretty even. They've
Speaker 2: played a lot of matches and it's pretty even who's
Speaker 2: had the win loss record. Jen, what do you reckon?
Speaker 2: Who's your early pick for this one?
Speaker 4: And why I'm looking at the wrong round? Mystix Pulse?
Speaker 3: Yeahs six Pulse.
Speaker 4: Well, I I'm annoyed with the Pulse, but.
Speaker 3: We know that here we're thinking they've got a full
Speaker 3: squad this week, quite right.
Speaker 4: I think it'll be a great game. Actually, I mean
Speaker 4: my mind just goes back to that final last year,
Speaker 4: which I thought was just superb.
Speaker 3: One goal in it, one goal.
Speaker 4: So no, I'm going to stick with the Pulse there
Speaker 4: at home. I think we know really what I think.
Speaker 4: I think it'll just be It'll be a tremendous game.
Speaker 2: I think it's the Mystics at home, isn't it? Trust
Speaker 2: Mystics at home? Yeah, so you're going to go pulse Mystics.
Speaker 2: Are you going to get mistics? Yes, Okay, I'm going
Speaker 2: to go Pulse. I think they were just too sharp
Speaker 2: throughout the court in their first round. I thought the
Speaker 2: Mystics defensively, they could struggle a little bit against the
Speaker 2: pulse pulse attack and the mid court is just going
Speaker 2: to be too strong in the pulse and pulse. They've
Speaker 2: got Paris Mason. How good was she? She may also
Speaker 2: be in our Pack of the Week Team of the
Speaker 2: Weeks check it out. She will play on her fiftieth
Speaker 2: A and Z Premiership match in round her she takes
Speaker 2: a court against the Mystics, and don't forget we've also
Speaker 2: got Kelly Jackson lining up against Wollum, so you know
Speaker 2: she is very good at that high bare or Jenny's.
Speaker 4: Going, no, I agree with you, because we're.
Speaker 3: Convincing you that maybe it's themestic.
Speaker 4: No, well, I just think the mixer, the mixing the
Speaker 4: Mystics of a unit I think are a different kettle
Speaker 4: of fish to the Magic. But you see, I'm contradicting
Speaker 4: myself because it's okay, we're all over the place. But
Speaker 4: I just I will be looking forward very much to
Speaker 4: that Wallumn Jackson clash because I'm just trying to think
Speaker 4: of they know they haven't played against each other on
Speaker 4: an international level, have they?
Speaker 2: Maybe, well, she's actually only played sex test kits and
Speaker 2: she while I'm for Australia so she hasn't played much
Speaker 2: or to be one for Pulse your pulse mystics, what
Speaker 2: are you?
Speaker 3: I'm Pulse, I was.
Speaker 2: I was advocating for the Pulses and I had to think, Okay,
Speaker 2: we haven't had too many.
Speaker 3: Brain fades this week. Actually, I've also got a little
Speaker 3: shout out.
Speaker 2: I've got to go to Alex b who kindly reminded
Speaker 2: me when I was having my brains week it was
Speaker 2: Australian Diamond Nat Evelyna.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Mat, that's.
Speaker 2: So obviously remember at the very Yes, it's good to
Speaker 2: know people were listening. Okay, Stars tactics for me, Oh,
Speaker 2: I'm again that face. I was thinking tactics. You know, Stars,
Speaker 2: they're going to be without the potentially though we've just
Speaker 2: heard going to have Kayla Cullen, which is brilliant, but
Speaker 2: I think the Taxes will be too strong. Cut and
Speaker 2: Burger Jane Watson, they are a class act.
Speaker 3: I think the Tactics will take this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so do I And I thought it was interesting
Speaker 4: how in the final quarter of that match against the Steel,
Speaker 4: Burger and Watson just came into their you know, they
Speaker 4: really got their groove on also Miela Royally Buchanan's one
Speaker 4: hundredth game for the Tactics, so there's a little bright
Speaker 4: bright light.
Speaker 2: Yeah then, and even though these injuries might galvanize this
Speaker 2: Stars side, I think it's just going to be probably
Speaker 2: too tough for them. And yeah, Tactics too strong, So
Speaker 2: I'm going to go Tactics as well. And the last
Speaker 2: game to round out Round two, it's on a Monday night.
Speaker 2: It's Magic and Steel, it's Hamilton, Annie, you're going to
Speaker 2: be there.
Speaker 3: Neither have had a win yet. Who's going to get
Speaker 3: your first win?
Speaker 2: And I think I'm still going to go Magic for
Speaker 2: this one because they're at home. Both of those sides
Speaker 2: put up the most two point shots, so it could
Speaker 2: be a two point fiester. I think it'll be a
Speaker 2: good tussle in that goal circle with the echinaccio and
Speaker 2: the height of steife. But I think, yeah, Magic will
Speaker 2: be too strong.
Speaker 4: Yes, I pondered over this. I'll tell you what. One
Speaker 4: Steel player that really impressed me was that Serena down
Speaker 4: a Cummercummer, Yes, because we last I saw her. You know,
Speaker 4: she was plucked from nowhere and got moved south and
Speaker 4: all the rest of it, and she was handy. But
Speaker 4: I thought she was really good the other day in
Speaker 4: that match against.
Speaker 3: The tax Excer.
Speaker 4: So but having said that, I will still stay with
Speaker 4: the Magic. I think I think they're too good. I
Speaker 4: don't think Savior too We will have another game like that.
Speaker 4: I just think when you look at I think, you know,
Speaker 4: two points shot Echinasio has it, and you know that
Speaker 4: will get them out of trouble all the teams.
Speaker 2: I think after round one they've got to strategize more
Speaker 2: with these two points shot. You know, they've got to
Speaker 2: pick and choose when do they go for them when
Speaker 2: they're ahead or when they're not.
Speaker 3: Do you do you just secure it with that?
Speaker 2: When you're ahead of the game, do you just get
Speaker 2: the ones in and maybe put the pressure on the
Speaker 2: other team to miss the twos? Then you get the
Speaker 2: rebounds and unless you're feeling it, like Barbi said, you know,
Speaker 2: sometimes the shooters are feeling hot and then you want
Speaker 2: them to go for it. But I agree to me
Speaker 2: in that Magic game last round, when they were down
Speaker 2: by lot, they keep going for one. You're like, you're
Speaker 2: down by twelve, shoot the two because you've got nothing
Speaker 2: to lose. To catch up that many in the last quarter.
Speaker 2: It's doable, but it's tough. But look, I think they're
Speaker 2: going to be a brilliant round. I'm really looking forward
Speaker 2: to that Mystic's Pulse match in particular. But that's about
Speaker 2: all the time we've got today, Bubby. She keep wanting
Speaker 2: to chat about ten minutes and we didn't want to
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