1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about this debate that Halen Clark has 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: set off about where the New Zealand should be condemning 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: the US air strikes on Iran. Now you'll have noticed 4 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: this New Zealand hasn't condemned the air strikes. In fact, 5 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: in a radio interview this morning, the Prime Minister said 6 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: that our position is the same as the Australian position, 7 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: and the Australian position is that they support the strikes. 8 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: So therefore logical conclusion we actually support the strikes, even 9 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: if we aren't saying it out loud ourselves. Now that level, 10 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: or that lack of condemnation has upset Helen Clark because 11 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: the air strikes are illegal under international law, and she's 12 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: right about that. But can anyone argue that the strikes 13 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: should not have happened, because let's consider the counterfactual. The 14 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: counterfactual is that the strikes didn't happen over the weekend. 15 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: Ayatollahamany is still alive. He's continuing to kill tens of 16 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: thousands of Iranians for protesting, continues to fund Hamas to 17 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: attack Israel, continues to fund and support the Hohoties to 18 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: cause trouble in the Middle East, continues to fund and 19 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: support Hezbollah to create more trouble in the Middle East, 20 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: continues to call trouble is close to home as Australia, 21 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: where Iran apparently directed the fire bombing of a synagogue 22 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: in Melbourne just a few months ago. It is exactly 23 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: the same situation that the world found itself as with 24 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 1: Venezuela and the capturing of Maduro. Shouldn't have happened, broke 25 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: the rules, but no one said that. Someone did break 26 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: the rules and do the thing that needed to be done. Now, 27 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: obviously this doesn't mean that it's going to be a success. 28 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: Bombing a country to false regime change rarely works. What 29 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: comes next might be worse. The disruption to the Middle 30 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: East might be more than it's worth, but all of 31 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: those are unknowns at this stage. What is known at 32 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: this stage is that the Iranian regime was murdering its 33 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: own people, was disrupting the region, and was trying to 34 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: disrupt even further afield. So, yes, what happened over the 35 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: weekend broke the rules, but tell me if you're upset 36 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: that that has been done. For more from Heather Duplessy 37 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: Allen Drive, Listen live to news talk sai'd be from 38 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio