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Speaker 1: From the old cart before the horse department. Two setbacks

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Speaker 1: for ideas we thought were going to work, or perhaps

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Speaker 1: we hoped we're going to work, but sadly I can

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Speaker 1: report this morning they are not. Idea Number one, we

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Speaker 1: get big tech to pay for locally produced news. That's

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Speaker 1: Google paying a company like nz Me for news that

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Speaker 1: ends up on their news feed. Deals to a degree

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Speaker 1: have been done specifically between some of the companies, but

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Speaker 1: the government had the idea that as part of their

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Speaker 1: supporting of the troubled Media plan, they could drag big

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Speaker 1: tech to the table to cough up. Turns out they couldn't,

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Speaker 1: they can't and they won't. See. Australia had the same idea.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump got window that told them that these were

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Speaker 1: American companies. If you tax them, he will whack tariffs

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Speaker 1: all over the place. We were waiting in the wings

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Speaker 1: to see how it all went in Australia before we

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Speaker 1: gave it the full crack. Here, neither of us will

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Speaker 1: be cracking anything. Idea Number two banning social media for

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Speaker 1: kids one of those almost universally agreed upon feel good

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Speaker 1: ideas that was never going anywhere. Nice thought, just not real.

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Speaker 1: Australia had to crack at that too, and like Idea

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Speaker 1: number one, where sitting waiting and watching to see what

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Speaker 1: they do. Their ban comes in in December. It will

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Speaker 1: not work. Why because we have a landmark national studying

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Speaker 1: this week and it's found it's impossible. The Age Assurance

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Speaker 1: Technology Trials, what they called it, It was commissioned by the

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Speaker 1: Australian government, looked at everything. Their conclusion, no single solution exists.

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Speaker 1: Can you fiddle? Can you poke? Can your produce? You can?

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Speaker 1: We found I quote them, we found a plethora of

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Speaker 1: approaches that fit use cases in different ways, but we

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Speaker 1: did not find a single ubiquitous solution that would suit

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Speaker 1: all use cases. Nor did we find solutions that were

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Speaker 1: guaranteed to be effective. And this is where bandwagons come in.

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Speaker 1: We all like to hate on social media, we all

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Speaker 1: like to protect kids. We all want to be seen

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Speaker 1: to be doing the right thing, and governments are not

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Speaker 1: devoid of that particular weakness. But the problem with governments

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Speaker 1: is they shouldn't promise what they can't deliver, and they

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Speaker 1: were never going to be able to deliver either Ideas

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Speaker 1: one or two. Not Australia, not us for more from

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