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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Heather

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Speaker 1: Duplicy Ellen drive with One New Zealand to coverage like

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Speaker 1: no one else News Talks that.

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Speaker 2: Be Afternoon, Welcome to the show. Coming up today. Twenty

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Speaker 2: daggage handlers have been arrested for allegedly smuggling the drugs

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Speaker 2: at Auckland Airport. Will get you across that Auckland City

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Speaker 2: rail link, you know, the train underground that's now only

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Speaker 2: going to open in the latter half of next year.

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Speaker 2: And Consumer New Zealand has found a few flat Friday

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Speaker 2: deals that are actually more expensive today than they have

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Speaker 2: been on other days.

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Speaker 3: Heather Duplicy Ellen, right, I've.

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Speaker 2: Reached the conclusion that when it comes to the banks

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Speaker 2: and mortgage rates, the only option you've got leftist to hustle.

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Speaker 2: You're on your own hair. It has been two days

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Speaker 2: since the Reserve Bank cut the official cash rate. And

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Speaker 2: by how much do you think the big banks have

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Speaker 2: cut their fixed rates? Not a job, not not a

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Speaker 2: single basis point. Absolutely nothing has come off their fixed rates.

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Speaker 2: As not particularly helpful from the banks, because you know,

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Speaker 2: we're trying to get the country out of recession and

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Speaker 2: the point of cutting the OCR is that the mortgage

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Speaker 2: rates come down, and then when you refix, you've got

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Speaker 2: more disposable cash, and the more cash you have, the

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Speaker 2: more you're going to spend in the faster we're going

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Speaker 2: to get out of this recession. So thumbs up and

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Speaker 2: thanks very much to the big banks for not helping.

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Speaker 2: Obviously it's smart business from them. They need to make

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Speaker 2: as much money as they can. The prediction is they

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Speaker 2: will eventually cut the OC cut their mortgage rates, but

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Speaker 2: it'll be next year. It won't be the side of Christmas,

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Speaker 2: and no one's going to be able to force them.

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Speaker 2: Everybody has fired all their bullets at the stage. The

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Speaker 2: Reserve Banks cut as much out of the ocr as

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Speaker 2: it can. The critics have written their columns, have given

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Speaker 2: their interviews. Nothing's happened. The government's accepted all the recommendations

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Speaker 2: know that that's a damp square and to be honest,

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Speaker 2: when it comes to the government, for them to do

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Speaker 2: anything meaningful to the banks, it would have to be

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Speaker 2: something as massive as breaking up A and Z and ASB,

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Speaker 2: and the horror that that would send through the investment

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Speaker 2: in mortgage interest rates at the moment. So the only

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Speaker 2: conclusion you're going to reaches that you're on your own.

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Speaker 2: No one is coming to save you from the banks.

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Speaker 2: No one's going to force them to pass on the

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Speaker 2: to hustle. So when you refix demand a better rate,

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Speaker 2: look at what the advertised rate is and then tell

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Speaker 2: them to shave fifty bases points off and if they

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Speaker 2: don't cross the road to another bank that will that

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Speaker 3: Heither dup c Allen.

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Speaker 2: Nineteen is the text number. Standard text fees apply now.

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Speaker 2: Aucklanders have no surprise whatsoever, flat out rejected the council's

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Speaker 2: idea of trialing fortnightly rubbish pickups and select cities as

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Speaker 2: suburbs around the city. It was places like the tatter

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Speaker 2: Too Peninsula and pan Mure and Clinton Park, whatever about

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Speaker 2: three different suburbs we're going to be subject to this.

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Speaker 2: They've got over five thousand submissions from these suburbs. Seventy

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Speaker 2: eight percent of them said they're against the idea. Justine

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Speaker 2: Habes is the general manager of waste Solutions at Auckland

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Speaker 2: Council hijusing Hi there, please tell me you're not going

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Speaker 2: to go ahead with this now.

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Speaker 4: That decision has not been made yet. That is a

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Speaker 4: decision for the Policy Planning and Development Committee in December.

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Speaker 2: Would you guys do something even though you have opposition

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Speaker 2: at almost eighty percent? Would you still go ahead with something?

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Speaker 4: As I say, that hasn't been decided yet, so elected

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Speaker 4: members will weigh up the consultation feedback alongside other information

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Speaker 4: as part of our advice in December and then we'll

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Speaker 4: make a decision about it.

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Speaker 2: This actually goes to the councilors sitting around the council table,

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Speaker 2: does it Yes?

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Speaker 4: It does yes in December.

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Speaker 2: But based on your advice.

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Speaker 4: So our advice is being developed for their decision in December.

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Speaker 2: Would your advice ever be to do something that eighty

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Speaker 4: We are developing that advice at the moment. I think

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Speaker 2: Okay, Can I suggest that if you're going to recommend

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Speaker 2: doing this, which sounds very much like you are, that

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Speaker 2: you well, first of all, obviously don't do it, but

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Speaker 2: if you absolutely must do it, that you pay people

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Speaker 2: a little bit more for it, because twenty eight bucks

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So thank you for pointing out that is for

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Speaker 4: six months. So obviously the equivalent rates for mission on

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Speaker 2: That at six stars. Once again, not a lot.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So that is again one of the things that

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Speaker 4: the trial would help us test. So until we move

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Speaker 2: The actual problem that you're trying to fix here?

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Speaker 4: So we currently send one and a half million tons

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Speaker 4: from other councils around New Zealand who've already introduced fortnightly

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Speaker 4: seeking to trial through.

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Speaker 2: This because proposal honestly justin you can accuse me of

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Speaker 2: being too cynical, and you wouldn't be the first, but

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Speaker 2: I looked at it and thought, nah, this is you

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Speaker 2: people trying to save money here, because then you only

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Speaker 2: every week, and that is more likely the royal reason.

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Speaker 4: No, So it is about achieving our waste minimization targets

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Speaker 4: for Auckland, and similar initiatives have been introduced by eighteen

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Speaker 4: other councils around New Zealand. This has been part of

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Speaker 2: When you saw the feedback come back so overwhelmingly against it,

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Speaker 4: I really really appreciate the feedback of Auckland is and

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Speaker 4: as I say, the nature of the feedback super important

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Speaker 4: Were you surprised, No, I wasn't surprised because we have

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Speaker 2: Justine, thank you very much. I really appreciate it. Justine

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Speaker 2: has the general manager of Waste Solutions at Auckland Council.

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Speaker 2: Hither our floating rate with A and Z still has

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Speaker 2: not dropped. Our floating rate with A and Z still

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Speaker 2: hasn't dropped. That's from Megan. Meghan, I think that you

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Speaker 2: might need to go to another bank that maybe has

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Speaker 2: dropped it. Listen, you know those you know you drive

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Speaker 2: They sit on a gantrea. But the digital signs and

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Speaker 2: they can change what it says. In all Clint today

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Speaker 2: on the Northwestern Motorway, the digital sign says IKEA opening

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Speaker 2: Thursday four December. Plan your journey now. Okay, look there

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Speaker 2: is a part of me that understands we are excited

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Speaker 2: about our Ikea. It's our first Ikea, and we are,

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Speaker 2: nip over the border to I don't know, Germany and

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Speaker 2: also understand that it is smart from the transport planners

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Speaker 2: to be like, hey, guys, it's going to be mental

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Speaker 2: the tiniest part of you that is like slightly embarrassed

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Speaker 2: that we are this intense about Come on, guys, like really,

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Speaker 2: it's turned in like the opening of a Swedish meat

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Speaker 2: event in this country. That is embarrassing, isn't it? Like

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Speaker 2: Heather, it sounds to me very much like Auckland Council's

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Speaker 2: going to do what they want to their death to

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Speaker 2: One will text I have to read you on that

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Speaker 2: me right now, Hi Piney, Hello Heather, Now what's going

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Speaker 2: on with Liam Lawson?

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Speaker 5: Well, he must be wondering right when he is going

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Speaker 6: Really.

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Speaker 5: They have to let them know at some stage. But

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Speaker 5: interesting development in the last couple of days. Yuki Sonoda,

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Speaker 5: let it slip in a media interview that he's out,

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Speaker 5: he's gone. He won't be in the stable next year,

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Speaker 5: which means that it's looking very good for Liam Lawson.

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Speaker 5: Sounds like Isaac Hadjar will move from Racing Balls up

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Speaker 5: to Red Bull. Liam Lawson will keep his seat in

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Speaker 5: the Racing Bulls car and be joined by this young prospect,

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Speaker 5: Avid Linn Blat. Apparently confirmation is coming early next week

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Speaker 5: after the Cutter Grand Prix. Heather, but I'll believe it

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Speaker 2: Okay, he now, Piney, what you've explained to me is

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Speaker 2: what we all thought was going to happen anyway. So

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Speaker 2: why are they Why are they not just front footing

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Speaker 2: it and saying it? What's the Why do they have

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Speaker 2: to hold on to it for every other week?

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Speaker 7: Heather?

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Speaker 5: You're just you're exactly like me. I have no idea.

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Speaker 5: Why wouldn't they just say if this has been the plan,

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Speaker 5: I mean, it must be terrible for on least I've

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Speaker 5: Yuki for a while, I mean believe that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, But business.

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Speaker 2: They've got Liam and Lawson doing all the publicity shops

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Speaker 2: and stuff like that, so he must know, right, So

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Speaker 2: is the is the explanation that all they're trying to

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Speaker 2: do is create drama for us in order to kind of, like,

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Speaker 2: you know, for us to be into the storyline here.

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Speaker 8: Maybe I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Maybe I mean, you think that the other ways of

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Speaker 2: to them about that here. The Ikea is international thing.

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Speaker 3: Cutting through the to get the facts.

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Speaker 1: It's Heather Do for Clan Drive with one New Zealand

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Speaker 3: There'd be Heather.

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Speaker 2: I moved to New Zealand over twenty years ago and

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Speaker 2: I've been waiting ever since for an Ikea. It is

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Speaker 2: just like the Australian version of Ikea, isn't it and fantastic?

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Speaker 2: Love them. In fact, I might. I might boycott Ikea,

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Speaker 2: It seems to be the Brotherhood MC gang. Never heard

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Speaker 2: including the president. Now, if you know, if you follow

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Speaker 2: may remember that the Ministerial Group for Organized Crime warned

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Speaker 2: After five o'clock beause it's reasonably significant for Auckland. I've

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Speaker 3: The world wires on news talks. They'd be drive so over.

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Speaker 2: In the States, one of the National Guard members shot

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Speaker 2: in Washington, d C. Has died his President Trump.

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Speaker 12: Sarah Backstrom of West Virginia, one of the guards men

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Speaker 3: Outstanding in every way. She's just passed away.

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Speaker 2: The suspected shooter is an Afghan national who helped US

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Speaker 9: Having an afternoons.

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Speaker 2: If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Two prisoners have

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of Mind

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Curzley, US correspondent, Hi Jonathan, Hello, he and.

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Speaker 13: A happy American Thanksgiving, you and your New Zealand whistlers

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Speaker 2: Friday sales already. Listen. I really sad news, although not

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Speaker 13: Yeah, this is awfully sad. Twenty year old Sarah Bextrom,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Now Steve Whitkopf is off to Russia.

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Speaker 13: Russia and Ukraine. Look, there's still significant points to move

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Speaker 13: on this, I think because Donald Trump has said he's

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Speaker 13: not going to meet with voladimi' Zelensky until there is

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Speaker 13: essentially a deal in place. Now clearly it is far

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Speaker 13: from being a deal in place. There are a number

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Speaker 13: of issues to be ironed out. Russia is essentially still

444
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Speaker 13: pursuing lines it wanted back when this war started, and

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Speaker 13: that is that Ukraine does not pursue membership of NATO,

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Speaker 13: that is that Ukraine reduces its army, and that is

447
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Speaker 13: that Russia gets the territory it has plus a little

448
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Speaker 13: bit more. Now that particular aspect would need to go

449
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Speaker 13: through to a Ukrainian parliament and pass in the Ukrainian parliament.

450
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Speaker 13: That is highly unlikely. So I think there's a number

451
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Speaker 13: of steps to go through yet before we get to

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Speaker 13: any sort of arrangement of any peace deal being in

453
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Speaker 13: place whatsoever. We've heard Vladimir Putin say, you know that

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Speaker 13: this can be done essentially if Ukraine agrees to X,

455
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Speaker 13: Y and Z deals. Now, whether Ukraine agrees to those deals,

456
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Speaker 13: while that remains to be seen, and the deal that's

457
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Speaker 13: on the table, well that remains unlikely. So I think

458
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Speaker 13: what you're seeing is is Steve Wikoff is going to

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Speaker 13: go to Russia to try and seek a middle ground,

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Speaker 13: try and find a way to bring this conflict to

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Speaker 13: a close. We saw the leak tapes from him earlier

462
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Speaker 13: in the week where he was heard and detail and

463
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Speaker 13: transcripts released of him trying to talk to the Russians

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Speaker 13: about how to deal with President Trump when it comes

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Speaker 13: to this deal. So I think he may well be

466
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Speaker 13: finding himself on the back foot a little bit in

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Speaker 13: the wake of those conversations. Now it's how do they

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Speaker 13: move forward? How does he deal with the current situation

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Speaker 13: and get to a point where Russia and Ukraine can

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Speaker 13: actually come to the same table, sit in the same room,

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Speaker 13: and agree to sign the same bit of paper, Because

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Speaker 13: right now as it stands, that still seems some way off.

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Speaker 2: Jonathan tell me, you got the turkey on the menu.

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Speaker 13: Turkey absolutely on the menu. It is a Thanksgiving here

475
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Speaker 13: in the United States of America, a holiday that is

476
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Speaker 13: celebrated just wakes out from Christmas. Now, those in the

477
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Speaker 13: Southern hemisphere may be well unaccustomed to the tradition that

478
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Speaker 13: is Thanksgiving here in the United States. It is a

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Speaker 13: tribute to the pilgrims. It's a chance to say thanks

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Speaker 13: it's a chance for the family to sit around the table.

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Speaker 13: And people may all be wondering, well, why do Americans

482
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Speaker 13: sit around the table and have turkey now and then

483
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Speaker 13: have turkey at Christmas. Well, you know that's a question

484
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Speaker 13: that's perplexed many from the Southern hemisphere for many, many years.

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Speaker 13: But look, today is what is regarded as Bird and

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Speaker 13: Football Day. And by bird I mean turkey and by

487
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Speaker 13: football I mean American football. So it's a great chance

488
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Speaker 13: for people to sit around the table, share some turkeys,

489
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Speaker 13: share some vegetables. For vegetables, obviously, for those health conscious,

490
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Speaker 13: they are crucially important because I can tell you now

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Speaker 13: that there is going to be plenty of pumpkin pie

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Speaker 13: served on the menu later on today, And that's not

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Speaker 13: exactly for those who are considering their waistlines, because I'm

494
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Speaker 13: looking at the pumpkin pies right now that are going

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Speaker 13: to be sitting across the table from me later. And well,

496
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Speaker 13: if I was considering my waistline, well I might only

497
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Speaker 13: be having one white or two. But I can tell

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Speaker 13: you I'll have a slice or two and we'll see

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Speaker 13: how those celebrations go later on. But look, this is

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Speaker 13: a huge day of celebration for America. It's a chance

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Speaker 13: to put everything that has happened over the rest of

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Speaker 13: the year aside, come together, sit down with those people

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Speaker 13: who are close to you, whether their family, whether their friends,

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Speaker 13: and celebrate is a day that is momentous on the

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Speaker 13: American calendar. We've sent them Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade earlier today.

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Speaker 13: Australia is Bluey making a wonderful appearance along the New

507
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Speaker 13: York streets earlier today. And now it's a chance to

508
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Speaker 13: sit down, enjoy a bit of turkey, enjoy a bit

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Speaker 13: of football, sit down, relax and enjoy well where I

510
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Speaker 13: am here the California sunshine before it disappears off into

511
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Speaker 13: the long winter.

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Speaker 2: Jonathan, enjoy it, look after yourself. Jonathan Kursley, US correspondent, here.

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Speaker 2: The Mocker furniture started in christ Church. It may have

514
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Speaker 2: been bought by an Australian company. I'm unsure of that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it did start in christ I'll probably go some way

516
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Speaker 2: to explaining what lock up. By the way, if you're like,

517
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Speaker 2: what are you talking about? MoCCA seems to be a

518
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Speaker 2: thing that you don't know anything about until you have children,

519
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Speaker 2: and then every single mother discovers it is like why

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Speaker 2: have I never had this in my life before?

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Speaker 8: Hey?

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Speaker 2: Can I just say on what? Jonathan was just talking

523
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Speaker 2: about their turkey turkeys over rat today? Like I feel,

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Speaker 2: I feel like turkey is an indication to you if

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Speaker 2: you try, If you tried turkey, it's rubbish. It's it's stringy,

526
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Speaker 2: it's dry, it's crap. It's like it's like a shite chicken,

527
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Speaker 2: you know, because why and also there's always too much

528
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Speaker 2: of it. You don't even enjoy it, and then you

529
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Speaker 2: end up with too much of it. The chicken is

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Speaker 2: the perfect size for a family. It's small and succulent

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Speaker 2: and young. You can eat the thing and then it's

532
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Speaker 2: gone right. But it also is such a common tree.

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Speaker 2: Don't you think on how crap Americans are with food?

534
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Speaker 2: That they obsess over something that is so dry you

535
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Speaker 2: have to like cover it in souls to make it work. Anyway,

536
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Speaker 2: let us hope that of all the things that have

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Speaker 2: caught on in this country from America, Valentine's Day, Halloween,

538
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Speaker 2: you know, Thanksgiving, the Black Friday, cells whatever, that the

539
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Speaker 2: turkey never catches on.

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Speaker 1: Quarter two politics with centric credit, check your customers and

541
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Speaker 1: get payments.

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Speaker 2: Certaindy, Heather, you've obviously never tried deep fried turkey. No,

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Speaker 2: I do care about my health. Thirteen away from five,

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Speaker 2: Thomas Coglan is with me. Hello, Thomas, Heather, good afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Shoud obviously say political editor at the Herald, you go

546
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Speaker 2: into the turkey.

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Speaker 8: Thomas, So sorry turkey for Thanksgiving?

548
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Speaker 6: You mean?

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Speaker 8: Well, I lived in America once for a year, did

550
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Speaker 8: in an exchange year over there, and I did the

551
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Speaker 8: whole Thanksgiving thing. It just feel it feels a wee

552
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Speaker 8: bit early for our holiday, like it sort of feels

553
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Speaker 8: like a fake Christmas. Yes, yes, and I don't really

554
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Speaker 8: like turkey, thank you.

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Speaker 2: That's what I was looking for right there. Turkey is sucky, Okay, now, Thomas,

556
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Speaker 2: the labor conference in Auckland this weekend, are we expecting anything,

557
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Speaker 2: out of it.

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Speaker 8: Ah, Yes, there is likely to be a policy announcement.

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Speaker 8: I wouldn't hold my breath for anything big. It sounds

560
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Speaker 8: like it's going to be a policy announcement that will

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Speaker 8: fill in some of the blanks or compliment what they've

562
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Speaker 8: already announced, which is the CGT plus the free GP

563
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Speaker 8: visits and the cervical screening policy. So I mean, look,

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Speaker 8: just this is just guesswork. So maybe they're putting something

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Speaker 8: else on their med card, which is you know, you're

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Speaker 8: going to get sick of seeing that medic card before.

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Speaker 3: The election next year.

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Speaker 8: But in the opportunity for Chrisippians to wave that card

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Speaker 8: of the camera, they will take So I'd imagine maybe

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Speaker 8: there'll be something they'll learn onto that.

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Speaker 2: What am I supposed to do with the medicard? What's

572
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Speaker 2: going to get me?

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Speaker 8: Well, well, if you're the Labor Party, it's going to

574
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Speaker 8: get you. Like this is this is part of an

575
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Speaker 8: industrial scale intellectual property theft from Australian political parties. I

576
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Speaker 8: think this is the Labor Party.

577
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Speaker 6: In New Zealand.

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Speaker 8: Stall this from Anthony Albanesi, who basically used the Australian

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Speaker 8: medic card s is Keita winning the Australian.

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Speaker 2: I remain confused about it other than the symbolism of it,

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Speaker 2: because I can go to the doctor now and get

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Speaker 2: all the stuff that I could get with regardless of

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Speaker 2: whether I had a little red card in my hand.

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Speaker 8: Yes, I think. I think it's just it's something that

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Speaker 8: they can give you so that you can tangibly hold

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Speaker 8: your It's.

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Speaker 16: A political thing.

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Speaker 8: It is something to say hither, that is your card,

589
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Speaker 8: and we the Labor government have given you this card

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Speaker 8: and given you these FREEZP visits, so remember remember us.

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Speaker 8: And you know, like like how many conversations have you

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Speaker 8: had about a super Gold card that that happened ended

593
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Speaker 8: in you know talking about Winston Peter's people will if

594
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Speaker 8: Labor does get it across the line, people will remember

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Speaker 8: it for a very very long time.

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Speaker 2: But the super Gold card at least has a value,

597
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Speaker 2: like you can you can go up to the thing

598
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Speaker 2: and flash your super Gold card and you get something

599
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Speaker 2: that other people without the card can't get. Do you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean?

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Speaker 8: Yes, I mean this card is going to have an

602
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Speaker 8: app which you can also use policies across the line.

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Speaker 13: It is.

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Speaker 8: I can see you can see that there would be

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Speaker 8: possible to do free GP visits without the card.

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Speaker 2: Yes, card. Everything about the card is at the stage universal. Therefore,

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Speaker 2: whether you have the card or not, you are entitled

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Speaker 2: to it. Though, so the card means nothing. So the

609
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Speaker 2: card's going straight in the bin, isn't it.

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Speaker 8: Well, I mean, if I don't know whether you do

611
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Speaker 8: need the card to get the policies in the future,

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Speaker 8: I think they're going to put them on an.

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Speaker 2: App Okay, But yes, yeh. Cards are very nineteen ninety five,

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Speaker 2: aren't they now. Takuza Ferris has been asking Labor for

615
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Speaker 2: restraint when it comes to running in the Maori seats.

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Speaker 2: What does he actually mean by that, Well, the.

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Speaker 8: Maori seats take a lot of votes listening and they

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Speaker 8: always they have been for a very long time. What

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Speaker 8: that means is that it's quite common to give the

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Speaker 8: Labor Party your party vote in the Maori seats and

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Speaker 8: then to vote for another candidate in the Malori seats

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Speaker 8: from a different party. He is basically saying, let's do

623
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Speaker 8: that again and vote for me for your candidate vote,

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Speaker 8: so I get in and give your party votes to

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Speaker 8: Labor if you want. What that would do is create

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Speaker 8: an overhang in parliament, so you get extra seats in

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Speaker 8: Parliament and that would give the left wing block, the

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Speaker 8: anti coalition block, and advantage when it comes to forming

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Speaker 8: a government. It's an interesting strategy. It's a sort of

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Speaker 8: two for one strategy. It's a bit of a dangerous game,

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Speaker 8: of course, because imagine, imagine if you get to election

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Speaker 8: night and you find that it is the overhang that

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Speaker 8: has caused the government to change. If this sort of

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Speaker 8: quirk of electoral law as the thing that determines the

635
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Speaker 8: government's changing or not changing, then of course it could

636
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Speaker 8: risk undermining the kind of mandate of the multi seats

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Speaker 8: to continue existing. Because we remember, you know Act in

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Speaker 8: New Zealand first are against national I think still as

639
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Speaker 8: a party is in favor of eventually facing them out.

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Speaker 8: So you probably wouldn't want to give those parties an

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Speaker 8: excuse to accelerate that policy to get rid of the

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Speaker 8: sects completely.

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Speaker 2: Hm. That's fair point, okay, Thomas listen, thanks very much well.

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Speaker 2: Rad the Political Week that was with you later about

645
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Speaker 2: quarter pass. Like Thomas Coglin, the Herald's political editor, Heather,

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Speaker 2: what you want to do with the Turkey is you

647
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Speaker 2: want to kill it and pluck it and gust it

648
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Speaker 2: straight away and then cook it. So yeah, and apparently

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Speaker 2: according to Bob, if you do that, it will be

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Speaker 2: the best turkey that you've ever had, and probably better

651
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Speaker 2: than any other bird. Simple as we'll just you know,

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Speaker 2: just get the churkey out in the backyard, do it,

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Speaker 2: do it all in one go, and that'll solve the problem.

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Speaker 2: Eight away from five, five away from five. A and

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Speaker 2: Z was listening earlier, so do you remember the text

656
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Speaker 2: from Megan? Meghan, if you're still listening, you're going to

657
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Speaker 2: love it. Meghan text in and said that their floating

658
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Speaker 2: rate hasn't even moved yet, or we were talking about

659
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Speaker 2: the fixed rate, but not even the floating rate has moved.

660
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Speaker 2: A and Z heard it and emailed us and said

661
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Speaker 2: the changes A and Z announced to the floating home

662
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Speaker 2: loan rates late on Wednesday, which was after the ocr cut,

663
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Speaker 2: will be effective within four business days for existing customers,

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Speaker 2: so for existing loans on the second of December. So

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Speaker 2: there you go. You will get it in just a

666
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Speaker 2: few days time. Now it's Black Friday, obviously, yay woo

667
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Speaker 2: got the dice in air? Rap I did it? I look, honestly,

668
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Speaker 2: I'm more impressed with my own patience here than with

669
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Speaker 2: the deal I finally managed to get, because I have

670
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Speaker 2: wanted the bloody thing for about three weeks and so

671
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Speaker 2: even maybe even more, But regardless, I waited and I waited,

672
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Speaker 2: and I looked at the website every couple of days

673
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 2: and looked around the place, and was absolutely sure of

674
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Speaker 2: exactly what the prices are. Two hundred dollars off today?

675
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Speaker 2: How good is that? Well done?

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Speaker 12: Me?

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Speaker 2: Yes, seven hundred dollars down to five hundred dollars. And

678
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Speaker 2: we have another conversation on another day about why in

679
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Speaker 2: God's name anything with the dice in name attached to

680
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Speaker 2: it has to charge you like multiples of what anybody

681
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Speaker 2: else would price anyway, Consumer, though, consumer says that they

682
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 2: have had a look around and they've actually found some

683
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 2: bargains today that are not bargains at all, that in

684
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 2: fact are more expensive than they have been in previous days,

685
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Speaker 2: not necessarily in the you know, these things have gone

686
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Speaker 2: on sale in the last few weeks, a few weeks

687
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Speaker 2: at a price that is lower than the price that

688
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Speaker 2: is available today. So Consumer's going to talk us through

689
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Speaker 2: it when they're with us shortly. They'll be with us

690
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Speaker 2: just after five o'clock. But next up. Let's talk to

691
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Speaker 2: Steve Simon about this news that twenty baggage baggage handlers

692
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Speaker 2: have been arrested at Auckland Airport with the gang drug smuggling.

693
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Speaker 2: My question here is how do you stop them from

694
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Speaker 2: doing it? I mean, if somebody's coming around with a

695
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Speaker 2: shoe box full of two hundre one thousand dollars and

696
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 2: going bring the cocaine, mate, and you get this, how

697
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 2: how do you as those what the bad guys have

698
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 2: got to offer? What do we the good guys have

699
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Speaker 2: to offer that's going to make him go?

700
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Speaker 1: Now?

701
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Speaker 2: I don't want your money. Maybe he can answer that question.

702
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Speaker 2: The Storks b s.

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Speaker 8: Coming here.

704
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Speaker 1: The only drive show you can trust truck to ask

705
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Speaker 1: the question, get the answers, find a fag and give

706
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Speaker 1: the analysis. Here the duplicyl and drive with one New

707
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Speaker 1: Zealand and the power of satellite mobile news.

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Speaker 7: Doorgs be.

709
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Speaker 6: Good?

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Speaker 2: Afternoon? Twenty baggage handlers at Auckland Airport have been arrested

711
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Speaker 2: in what authorities are calling him you breakthrough in transnational

712
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Speaker 2: drug operations. The drug operation is linked to gangs. Eight

713
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Speaker 2: members of the twenty eight Brotherhood MC gang, including the president,

714
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Speaker 2: have also been rounded up. Steve Simon is the chair

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Speaker 2: of the Ministerial Advisory Group for Organized Crime in with US. Hi, Steve, Hey,

716
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Speaker 2: this is what you warned about, isn't it?

717
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Speaker 12: It is?

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Speaker 17: It is I feel like a fortune teller at a

719
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Speaker 17: school ground fair. We talked about this back when we

720
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Speaker 17: were first starting our reports in March, that this would

721
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Speaker 17: be a thing, and here we are.

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Speaker 2: Do you reckon twenty is everything?

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Speaker 8: No?

724
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Speaker 7: How?

725
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Speaker 17: But I think the police have done policing customs have

726
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Speaker 17: done an incredible job to root out that many. But

727
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Speaker 17: I suspect either there are more or if there's not,

728
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Speaker 17: they will be replaced, much like they were in the

729
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Speaker 17: earlier stages of Matata, where the police did arrests and

730
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Speaker 17: then they were those baggage handlers.

731
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Speaker 8: Were replaced by others.

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Speaker 17: This is a problem not just for New Zealand but

733
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Speaker 17: other places in the world and is kind of a

734
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Speaker 17: scheme that is used by organized crime.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so how does this actually work? Is it that

736
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Speaker 2: they when the twenty allegedly bad baggage handlers are taken out,

737
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Speaker 2: twenty more bad baggage handlers come in, or do good

738
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Speaker 2: baggage handlers come in? And then they're flipped on the job.

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Speaker 17: A bit of everything. A big part of what organized

740
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Speaker 17: crime does is it looks for people and those vulnerable workforces.

741
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Speaker 17: So baggage handlers is an obvious one. You've got people

742
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Speaker 17: in those roles, not earning a large amount of money, vulnerable,

743
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Speaker 17: often having family or social connections that might link them

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Speaker 17: to organized crime, and through that they're being corrupted.

745
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Speaker 2: How is it though if some of okay, some of

746
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Speaker 2: it is the corruption on the job, but some of

747
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Speaker 2: it is already corrupted and taking the job in order

748
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Speaker 2: to carry out the task that is necessary has been

749
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Speaker 2: asked to carry out. Can't you when you're hiring the

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Speaker 2: person see the red flags?

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Speaker 6: Yes and no.

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Speaker 17: Yes, well, first of all, you have to have a

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Speaker 17: system to properly vet people so that you can pick

754
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Speaker 17: up those who have some obvious links. Others, though, will

755
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Speaker 17: be friends of friends from school, and this being New

756
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 17: Zealand's you know, we're two degrees of separation, and so

757
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Speaker 17: often the baggage chandelers might not have a history, but

758
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Speaker 17: might have a connection to someone who does, and that's

759
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Speaker 17: how they've brought in the problem is that New Zealand

760
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Speaker 17: is too small and too friendly an environment, and it

761
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Speaker 17: makes it vulnerable for people we pulled into these types

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Speaker 17: of schemes.

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Speaker 2: So they get pulled in apparently by shoe boxes of

764
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Speaker 2: cash with about two hundred thousand dollars stuffed into them.

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Speaker 2: And if that is the incentive, that's the lure. What

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Speaker 2: have we got to offer to stop them taking it?

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Speaker 17: I think part of it is, first of all, we've

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Speaker 17: got to target the drugs that are coming here. We've

769
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Speaker 17: got to attack that as much as we can. And

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Speaker 17: what is good to see is the police here have

771
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Speaker 17: been also targeting the facilitators, the people been trying to

772
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Speaker 17: make this happen. I think we need to do a

773
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Speaker 17: lot more of that, but we also need to remove

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Speaker 17: the temptation. So the point you're making about the vetting

775
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Speaker 17: that we can do, but we also looked at setting

776
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Speaker 17: up systems in these vulnerable places of the monitoring and

777
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Speaker 17: the checks and balances and relation to baggage handlers of

778
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Speaker 17: going to planes and taking the luggage off planes which

779
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Speaker 17: has not come through the usual mechanism of going through

780
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Speaker 17: like your bags or my bags that have gone through

781
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Speaker 17: the usual way. Because this is a known scheme that

782
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Speaker 17: is used around the world to move drugs and so

783
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Speaker 17: it's something that we could target. We could target the process.

784
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Speaker 17: And also there's the education piece of getting in working

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Speaker 17: with these young people going into these roles, explaining to

786
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Speaker 17: them the risks, explaining to their families the risks, and

787
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Speaker 17: so that are aware of it, and we can start

788
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Speaker 17: using some of that grassroots you know, Kiwi. We're all

789
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Speaker 17: in this toget, the team approach to say, well, look,

790
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Speaker 17: we collectively want to fight this and so this is

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Speaker 17: something I want to tackle.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, Yeah, listen, thank you very much. Steve has always

793
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Speaker 2: appreciated Steve Simon, chair of the Ministerial Advisory Group for

794
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Speaker 2: Organized Crime.

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Speaker 3: Ever do for c Ellen five eleven.

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Speaker 2: Now, it's a couple of bits of big news for Auckland.

797
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Speaker 2: Number One, the government has announced the plan to clean

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Speaker 2: up the city. Number two, the CRL, the train set

799
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Speaker 2: underneath the city, has now confirmed is opening at the

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Speaker 2: end of next year. Viv Beck is the heart of

801
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Speaker 2: the city CEO and with us. Now, hey, Viv hello,

802
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Speaker 2: is end of next year? What we were expecting?

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Speaker 18: Oh gosh, well we were. We always hoped it would

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Speaker 18: be earlier. I had sort of come to a view

805
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Speaker 18: that it was going to be around I hoped around

806
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Speaker 18: the midyear. The biggest issue is the uncertainty for these

807
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Speaker 18: poor businesses that have been affected for a decade, and

808
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Speaker 18: that's a very long time still for them to carry on.

809
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Speaker 18: And obviously we want to get moving so people can

810
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Speaker 18: get in here easier and faster. So on the one hand,

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Speaker 18: it's good to have some sort of dedication of when

812
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Speaker 18: it's going to be, but I think there'll be people

813
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Speaker 18: pretty disappointed it so far away.

814
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Speaker 2: Okay on this tidy up of the city, What is

815
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Speaker 2: actually going to happen here if we haven't got you know,

816
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Speaker 2: move on orders or anything, what's actually changing.

817
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Speaker 18: Well, many of the things we've been asking for have

818
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Speaker 18: come to pass here. So we've wanted to have a

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Speaker 18: cross agency approach to deal with both the social issues

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Speaker 18: and sort of the economic issues. And we've wanted it

821
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Speaker 18: to be at a very senior level, recognizing the importance

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Speaker 18: coming out of this decade of disruption that we really

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Speaker 18: need to move into twenty twenty six in a very

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Speaker 18: good place. And I think we've got that. It is

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Speaker 18: a sort of multifaceted thing. It picks up on the

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Speaker 18: social needs, the people crying out for laws and by

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Speaker 18: laws to be enforced. They want to see a focus

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Speaker 18: on cleaning and presentation, so it actually picks up quite

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Speaker 18: a lot of the things that we've been asking for

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Speaker 18: and that businesses crying out for. The proof will be

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Speaker 18: in the pudding, But there is a determination. We've definitely

832
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Speaker 18: got the point across that we need to have This

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Speaker 18: has to be a game changer. We've got to have

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Speaker 18: change this side of Christmas so that we go into

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Speaker 18: the opening of the Convention Center in a good place.

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Speaker 2: Viv thanks very much, look after yourself of Beck Heart

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Speaker 2: of the City CEO Heather Dooper c L good Night

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Speaker 2: for TV and Z. Tonight is Simon Dello's final news shift.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't they're not going hard, they're not going large

840
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Speaker 2: on this. He's just going to do his shift and

841
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Speaker 2: they're going to do a special tribute at the end

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Speaker 2: of the news. Apparently there are going to be some

843
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Speaker 2: fair some well known faces to sort of say goodbye

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Speaker 2: to him, and he will thank viewers and then he

845
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Speaker 2: will leave the desk for the final time, and then

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Speaker 2: he's going to celebrate with friends and colleagues and the

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Speaker 2: TVNS newsroom. Which I don't know about you, but just

848
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Speaker 2: sounds to me like a couple of plastic gallic glasses

849
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Speaker 2: of bubs, maybe a few crackers, you know, bits of

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Speaker 2: bits of salmon, a few nuts, chippies, chippies with lots

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Speaker 2: of chippies. It's a little I don't want to be

852
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Speaker 2: stink about it, but I think that it feels a

853
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Speaker 2: little underwhelming, doesn't it to you? Because I mean, this

854
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Speaker 2: is a guy who's been reading the news for twenty years.

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Speaker 2: Or what I would have I don't know, I mean,

856
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Speaker 2: what do you do? I think I would have made

857
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Speaker 2: a big deal about it. If Buyer was TVNZ, I

858
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Speaker 2: would have had billboards. I know this, this sounds ridiculous,

859
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Speaker 2: like they don't have this kind of money, but you know,

860
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Speaker 2: get those digital billboards around Auckland and New Zealand. Whoever's

861
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Speaker 2: got the digital bill buy Simon put a nice picture

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Speaker 2: of them, say, by Simon, thanks for your twenty years.

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Speaker 2: Then I would have given interviews to all the radio

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Speaker 2: stations that I made a really big deal with an

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Speaker 2: awesome guy. He wasn't sent got everybody around the Telly

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Speaker 2: News tonight. Most most people don't even know it's happening. They're'

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Speaker 2: not ever gonna watch, just gonna carry on with their

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Speaker 2: after work. Drink. He's their own sad little chips quarter

869
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Speaker 2: past all right, hands up hose another desperate golfer trying

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Speaker 2: simply fantastic. I've actually got a seat of these clubs

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Speaker 2: and I swear by them. They are super lightweight, that

874
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 2: beautifully made. They're engineered in Japan, incredible precision there. They're

875
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 2: the e bike basically of golf clubs. They do the

876
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 2: work so you don't have to do the work yourself.

877
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 2: If you need more speed, more hype, more consistency, Zexio

878
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 2: is the answer. And Golf Warehouse is having a really

879
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 2: big sale right now, twenty to sixty percent off across

880
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 2: the store, and it gets better. They are so confident that,

881
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 2: like me, you're going to love the Zxio that they

882
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 2: offer you a one hundred percent seven day money back guarantee.

883
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 2: No one else does that. These clubs are good. That's

884
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 2: why tens of thousands of Kiwis already play with Zexio.

885
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 2: They absolutely love them. So go and see for yourself

886
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 2: and get the best deals in golf in store or

887
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 2: online at Golfwarehouse.

888
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 3: Dot m Z Heather duplaslhither you know.

889
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 2: Damn well that's spent. That would be spending ten thousand

890
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 2: dollars on the billboards and the flash stuff, and it

891
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 2: be a public outcry and you'd be leading a well,

892
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be leading it, but you're probably right. Pro

893
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 2: people would flip out about it, wouldn't people flip out

894
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 2: about a lot of things nowadays? Nineteen past five, Now

895
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 2: it's Black Friday speaking and spending the dollars. If you're

896
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 2: like me, you've already got yourself a good deal, waited

897
00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 2: for it and then nabbed it. But there are all

898
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 2: so some halves out there. What a surprise. Consumer has

899
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 2: been keeping an eye out for US. Jimma Rasmussen is

900
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 2: the head of Research and Advocacy and with US High Jemma, Hello, okay,

901
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 2: what are the bad deals that are not really deals?

902
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 19: Well, we looked at pricing over about three months because

903
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 19: we wanted to get a sense of are the deals genuine?

904
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 19: And what we found was that about half of the

905
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 19: products that are supposedly on sale today, shoppers could have

906
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 19: found them for about the same price or a lower

907
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 19: price at some point in the last three months, so

908
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 19: it really kind of shows that there's so much hype

909
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 19: around Black Friday.

910
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,720
Speaker 20: But the deals are a little dubious.

911
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 19: There are some to be had, there are some in there,

912
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 19: but a lot it's a bit of pottier.

913
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 2: Have you found any ones that are not that have

914
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 2: been cheaper in the last while than they actually are today?

915
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 19: So we have found that there are some deals, like,

916
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 19: there are some deals to be had. One thing that

917
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 19: we found so Harvey Norman and Farmers, they had stick

918
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 19: back that was priced at one and ninety nine dollars,

919
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 19: So that was for nine out of fourteen weeks for

920
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 19: Harvy Norman, and for every week with Farmers and with

921
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 19: Black Friday it is five hundred and ninety nine dollars.

922
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 19: So this is genuinely cheaper. There are a few others though,

923
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 19: where they're actually just like a dollar or two cheaper

924
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 19: and the savings are not really as meaningful. So that's

925
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 19: a little bit tricky. You could say, yeah, it's.

926
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 2: Cheaper, but and apparently for Hosking who loves the dice

927
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 2: and stick vacuum, that's actually a proper bargain today, isn't it.

928
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 19: It is a proper bargain. So I think that's kind

929
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 19: of what we want to be saying to people is

930
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 19: really it's about doing your research. There's websites like priced

931
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 19: buy or price me where you can put the product

932
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 19: in and it's going to give you all of the

933
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,439
Speaker 19: historical pricing data. And we kind of feel the proof

934
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 19: is in the pricing, not in the marketing height that

935
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 19: you know, stop Clara out big sale. If you can

936
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 19: look at that data, then there's absolutely deals to be had,

937
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 19: but it's it's just about being a little bit conscientious

938
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 19: about where you put your money.

939
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 2: Good stuff. Jemalisten, thanks very much, look after yourself. Jim Rasmussen,

940
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 2: who is with Consumer New Zealand. Jim, I didn't want

941
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 2: to tell you the deals, did you? I asked her twice.

942
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 2: Shouldn't want to tell you the ones that I've got them?

943
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 2: So I will tell you shortly the ones that you

944
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 2: could have bought for cheaper and now they're more expensive.

945
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 2: On Black Fridaday. Here the where did you get your

946
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 2: deal for the dice and air rap? I've been hanging

947
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 2: out for one mate. Thanks for asking Farmers. So Farmers

948
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 2: is going to give you off the original one with

949
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 2: just like three attach massinone and you're not going to go.

950
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 2: It's not the big attachment thing. You don't need. What

951
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 2: I don't need that is with a bag and a

952
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 2: little kind of crap. You don't need that. I don't

953
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 2: need that. So you can get two hundred dollars off

954
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 2: at Farmers and if I remember correctly, you can also

955
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 2: get two hundred dollars off at heath Coats one hundred

956
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 2: percent electrical whatever that that quite good. I quite like

957
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 2: that brand, and I think maybe Dyson as well, dot.

958
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 8: Co dot in Z.

959
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 2: Remember what the deal is on the show. If I

960
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 2: get you free money, you owe me ten percent.

961
00:44:59,800 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 3: Two.

962
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 1: Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Heather Dupliclan Drive

963
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: with one New Zealand coverage like no one else.

964
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 3: News Talk said Behither.

965
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 2: On the baggage handler is the thing that we have

966
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 2: to offer them for smuggling and drugs as long term

967
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 2: jail sentences. Baz. I tend to agree with him. Five

968
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 2: twenty five. Now, listen, let's talk about the Auckland rubbish collection. Okay,

969
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 2: clearly Auckland Council and by this I mean the unelected

970
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 2: staffers at Auckland Council not. The elected politicians are going

971
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 2: to try to force the fortnightly rubbish collection trial on

972
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 2: the three suburbs Tiata Tudo Peninsula, Panma and Clindon Park

973
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 2: in Auckland. And this is despite those three suburbs explicitly

974
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 2: telling the council in the feedback. When I say feedback,

975
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 2: I'm in consultation that they didn't want it. Seventy nine

976
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 2: percent of people and Tiatitude Peninsula said no, eighty percent

977
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 2: of people and Panmor said no. Eighty two percent of

978
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 2: people in Clinton Park said no. But the council's staffers

979
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 2: are treating this not like an actual no, more like

980
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 2: a feedback.

981
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 4: We've received a great response from Aucklanders who have expressed

982
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 4: the reasons for their concern in a trial, and the

983
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 4: key thing to consider is whether we are able to

984
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 4: mitigate those concerns through the trial design.

985
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 2: Will far be it from me to offer such bright

986
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 2: sparks any feedback of my own, but I would suggest

987
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 2: to them that they might want to listen to the

988
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 2: people and understand that as they say about consent, nowadays,

989
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 2: no means no. Now I've observed over the course of

990
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 2: years that council stuff all over the country have a

991
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 2: habit of treating consultation like a magic eight ball. They

992
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 2: ask it a question and they shake it. Then they

993
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 2: ignore it if they don't like the answer, and just

994
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 2: do whatever anyway. What I've also observed is that this

995
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 2: makes rate pays very angry. And there are a few

996
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 2: things that make rate payers more angry than the subject

997
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 2: of rubbish, given that rubbish does feel like one of

998
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 2: the core things that we pay thousands in rates for

999
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 2: every single year. But there is one thing that makes

1000
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 2: rate payers even more angry than that, and that's having

1001
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 2: a service taken away from them at the same time

1002
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 2: as the council yet again ratchets It's up the rates

1003
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 2: by in my case, five hundred dollars next year five

1004
00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 2: hundred dollars and you want to take my bit away?

1005
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 2: No thanks mate. Good luck to the unelected staffers at

1006
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 2: Auckland Council forcing this on the suburbs next year. Hopefully

1007
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 2: the elected politicians who sit around the council table who

1008
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 2: actually will have the final say, will be better at

1009
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 2: listening to the people and will kill the idea.

1010
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 3: Together do for see Allen.

1011
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 2: Alrighty, here we go. This is what Consumer found Brisco's

1012
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 2: at Brisco's. Today you can buy the Kenwood chef mixer

1013
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 2: for four hundred and ninety dollars, but if you did

1014
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 2: go in Thursday last week, you would have got it

1015
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 2: for four hundred and fifty dollars, so that's cheaper. The

1016
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 2: Brevil four sliced toaster today is one hundred and twenty

1017
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 2: six dollars, but if you did go in in September,

1018
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,240
Speaker 2: you would have got it for one hundred and five dollars,

1019
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 2: so that's not so Black Friday, nol Leaming. The Russell

1020
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 2: Hobbs kettle is fifty dollars on the promotion label today.

1021
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 2: It was nineteen dollars in September, which is a hell

1022
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 2: of a lot cheaper. The Russell Hobbs air fryer is

1023
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty nine dollars at nol Lemming today,

1024
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 2: but you could have bought it for one hundred and

1025
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 2: forty seven dollars in early November. And the list goes

1026
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 2: on and on and on. What have we got here?

1027
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 2: The Neutral bullet, Oh, this is at Farmers. The Neutral

1028
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 2: bullet is ninety was one hundred dollars. It's rounded up.

1029
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 2: It's one hundred dollars today, but in September it was

1030
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 2: seventy dollars and in October was seventy five. It just

1031
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 2: gets worse, doesn't it. The Russell Hobbs Satis fry, which

1032
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 2: does not sound very good for you, was one hundred

1033
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 2: and seventy dollars today and it was one hundred and

1034
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 2: sixty dollars in October. Anyway, the lesson there is you

1035
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 2: have to you have to hustle. You have to do

1036
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 2: what I did with my dice in air app. You

1037
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:30,879
Speaker 2: have to track it for like a month or more,

1038
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 2: and then you know that when you're buying it for

1039
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 2: two hundrey off, it really is two hundry off sports Hudles.

1040
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: Next year, the day's newspakers talked to Heather first, Heather

1041
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,720
Speaker 1: Duplicy Ellen drive with one New Zealand and the power

1042
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: of satellite mobile. New Saw said, be only want you.

1043
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 2: Hither You've got one. The Council thanks asking for submissions

1044
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 2: on their ideas as a mere formality and not at

1045
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 2: all binding. It's a waste of time submitting, given the

1046
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 2: amount of thought that goes into making one. It's thanks,

1047
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 2: but no, we have already decided absolutely right. I'm getting

1048
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 2: a lot of texts along the lines of hey, we

1049
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 2: already do this. I don't really know what the trouble

1050
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 2: is like. Ah, here's one from Hamilton. They already do fortnightly.

1051
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 2: Takapuna already does it, apparently, Heather, regarding the proposed two

1052
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 2: weekly rubbish backup in Auckland, We'll be doing it in

1053
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 2: christ Church for years and for a family of four,

1054
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 2: we don't fit the bins, don't fill the bin, so

1055
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what's different up there. I do agree

1056
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 2: with your sentiment about council consultation though, but in this

1057
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 2: case they're right, Andrew, thank you. Trouble with them being writers,

1058
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 2: that's not how you win the argument. It's democracy, isn't it.

1059
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 2: But then again, it's not binding, is it. Twenty three

1060
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 2: away from six.

1061
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: The Friday Sports titled with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty

1062
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 1: a name you can trust locally and globally.

1063
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 15: I owe something that I can't share obviously with you guys,

1064
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 15: but probably most like most of the people on nose

1065
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 15: it actually I'm a similar understanding with you guys.

1066
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 2: I don't know what's gonna happen, so yeah, let's see.

1067
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,280
Speaker 21: But it's starting to move to India a dominating everything

1068
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 21: because they can afford to.

1069
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 5: Buy into it and purchase teams as opposed to players.

1070
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 10: It's always great to be able to see the English

1071
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 10: having to take a few good looks at themselves in

1072
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 10: the mirrors at the moment after getting flogged.

1073
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 2: In two days. Right on the sports tuddle, that's this evening,

1074
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 2: we have Nicky Styrras sports journalist and Darcy water Grave

1075
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 2: sports talk host. How are you too?

1076
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 21: Hello?

1077
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 10: Are you one?

1078
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 20: Good Eay?

1079
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,439
Speaker 2: This is so lame, Nicky every time, very lame. Yeah,

1080
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 2: Dad jokes all day.

1081
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:48,919
Speaker 8: I'm a dad.

1082
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 2: No, that's yeah, that's that's fine. Hey, what's going on

1083
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 2: at New Zealand Cricket, Darcy?

1084
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 21: What's going on? Yeah, no one knows. It's chaos from

1085
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 21: the looks of it. There's a lot of very unhappy

1086
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 21: provincial people who don't believe that Scott weeningk who is

1087
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 21: the CEO currently quite has a handle on what's going on.

1088
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 21: It doesn't want to run too fast at something new

1089
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 21: and fangle in the T twenty space. On the defensive

1090
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 21: side of Scott Weening, I'm reasonably interested in someone who

1091
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 21: chooses caution over throwing everything at a new event. Straight away.

1092
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 21: I think that is the CEO of a major organization

1093
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 21: like cricket, part and parcel of your job is to

1094
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 21: show caution, maybe slightly too much. But we've seen other

1095
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 21: organizations climb into things like still Relate, for example, And

1096
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 21: I don't know if that's particularly guarantee it.

1097
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 2: But it sounds like he's on his own here, Darcy.

1098
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 2: Is he going to lose his job over this? So

1099
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 2: they're trying to get rid of him.

1100
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 21: This room was around a week ago two. We thought

1101
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 21: in the last AGM this information would come out that

1102
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 21: he's been dropped kicked. Have you even't got the support

1103
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 21: of all your organizations? It's very very hard to keep

1104
00:51:58,200 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 21: on going. Now we don't we're not on the weed

1105
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 21: to this. We don't know what the detail are because

1106
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 21: everyone's being very tight lipped around who said what and

1107
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 21: where and why. But I still look to a CEO,

1108
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 21: everyone's got to just take a breath, and I'm sure

1109
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 21: the best interests of cricket are with him and he

1110
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 21: doesn't want to jump into something it might be long

1111
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 21: term costly for the country.

1112
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 2: So what it is, Nikki, is that everybody else is

1113
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 2: loving the idea of this tea twenty, which seems to

1114
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 2: be backed by Indian money, are being set up here

1115
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 2: in New Zealand in January and he's not keen on it.

1116
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 2: So where do you sit on it? Do you like

1117
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 2: the idea of the T twenty setting up in New Zealand?

1118
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 2: Would you prefer to have teams out us trying to

1119
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 2: get our teams into the big Bash in Australia.

1120
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 20: I actually have quite a strong view on the set.

1121
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 20: There's a surprise Heather. Basically, look, look, I can understand

1122
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 20: Scott Wenning being a little bit concerned because the setup

1123
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 20: of this league technically, you know, it's threatening New Zealand

1124
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 20: Crickets control of the game in this country. Okay, so

1125
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 20: New Zealand Cricket would have no say in how it

1126
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 20: is and they would to guard against that. And I

1127
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 20: guess you know that is fair enough. But let's just

1128
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 20: take a little closer look at it. I mean, if

1129
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,879
Speaker 20: we went with this n Z twenty league, first of all,

1130
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 20: it would keep a lot of the top players here

1131
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 20: to ply their T twenty trade where currently they are

1132
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 20: all running off shore and earning a lot of money.

1133
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 20: And we haven't even seen King Williamson this year. Foreign

1134
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 20: ownership brings in money, it brings an investment, it brings

1135
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 20: in professionalism. It would also help the development and funding

1136
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 20: of the next wave of New Zealand players with that

1137
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 20: level of you know, professionalism in the country. Here's probably

1138
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:37,280
Speaker 20: the reason why that the major unions like it because

1139
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 20: twenty five percent of the league ownership would go to

1140
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 20: the major cricket unions. Now that's huge. It means that

1141
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 20: New Zealand cricket don't have to fund it. They can

1142
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 20: then spend their money on other areas of development. So

1143
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 20: you know, it's been trialed in the West Indies, it's

1144
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 20: been trialed in South Africa. We're not just trial but

1145
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 20: just going ahead. And actually it's taken the control away

1146
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 20: from the governing body and the middle they've turned a profit.

1147
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 20: So I guess it's a sort of a double edged

1148
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 20: sword here. You know, you are taking on something that

1149
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 20: could help your organization, but also you are relinquishing a

1150
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 20: degree of control.

1151
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 21: It's a financial sugar effects, isn't it. And that's what

1152
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 21: we're going to be worried about, Nikki. So when you

1153
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 21: look at whether leenex right or wrong, I think just

1154
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 21: easy now and playing caution because you look at the

1155
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 21: New Zealand.

1156
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,399
Speaker 2: Rugby they're like, we want silver, like because we get

1157
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:25,879
Speaker 2: a whole lot.

1158
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 21: Of money and what do they do with it? They

1159
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 21: blew it all and there's nothing left.

1160
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 20: So there's that so black, that's not not you know,

1161
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 20: your whole domestic competition. I think the other thing to

1162
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 20: look at is the alternative, and the alternative is that

1163
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 20: New Zealand. But you know, enter a team into the

1164
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 20: Big Bash. Well that's only a good idea when you

1165
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 20: don't have a strong domestic competition. When the Warriors and

1166
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 20: the Phoenix and the Breakers all went in the old competition,

1167
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 20: they didn't have a strong domestic competition.

1168
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 2: Do we increase that competition, you know Nikki who watches it, Yes,

1169
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 2: we do.

1170
00:54:55,719 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 20: But this technically, if we started this league, sorry, if

1171
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 20: we went into the Big Bash, it would absolutely ruin

1172
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 20: it because all the best players would then want to

1173
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 20: play in the Big Bash and the local comp would

1174
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 20: get diluted. So that's not the answer either, unless say

1175
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 20: you could have say three New Zealand teams in a

1176
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 20: Big Bash, but Australia would never go. I mean, is

1177
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 20: it not possible, actually, Darcy, that you have to pick

1178
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 20: the lesser of the Evils and there are three evils

1179
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 20: and actually carrying on the way we are with it,

1180
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 20: the status quote is not working either.

1181
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 21: And just going back to you said four, Niki, was

1182
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 21: the provincial unions over the All Blacks that wanted more

1183
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 21: money and control and it's kind of similar to what

1184
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 21: happens with these provincial teams it. I think that what

1185
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,959
Speaker 21: we've seen in New Zealand has send in the Zealand

1186
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 21: cricket of recent times is the preparedness of players to

1187
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 21: get straight into international cricket even though they've had a

1188
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:52,760
Speaker 21: diet of provincial cricket and they've had the Super Smash

1189
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 21: that they've been involved in. And it's actually worked out

1190
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 21: quite well, Nikki, because we've got a lot of these

1191
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,919
Speaker 21: players who are now they're getting packed older in their career,

1192
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 21: later in the twenty six, twenty seven. They know their game,

1193
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 21: they know what they can do. It's almost seamless, and

1194
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 21: I think that helps when you've got a structure like

1195
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 21: we've got, right.

1196
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 2: Nikki, Listen, you mean sorry, Darcy, there was a question

1197
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 2: for you the sum You.

1198
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,280
Speaker 21: Mean, yeah, they're super smash.

1199
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1200
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 20: I think the only problem with that, Dars is that

1201
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 20: when Sky get the rights back to the cricket not

1202
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 20: this season, but next season. They are not televising the

1203
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 20: Super Smash.

1204
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, so.

1205
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 20: That's not good.

1206
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 2: Well, there you go. Who watches the cheap seats and

1207
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 2: fire hot takes of people? We have to make these decisions,

1208
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 2: all right, we take a break, thankfully, We'll take a break.

1209
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 2: Come back very shortly with the Sports Huddle sixteen away

1210
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 2: from six.

1211
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 1: The Friday Sports hitdle with New Zealand Southby's international.

1212
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 3: Real team, the only truly global brand.

1213
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,800
Speaker 2: Back on the Sport Huddle. Nickystyrras, Darcy Watergrave, Nikki, do

1214
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 2: you think the International Judo Federation is doing the right

1215
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 2: thing letting the Russians back in with their flag and

1216
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:58,760
Speaker 2: their anthem and the whole shebang.

1217
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1218
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 20: Look, look, I do call me simplistic, but I still

1219
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 20: feel that sport needs to remain neutral, independent and free

1220
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,879
Speaker 20: from political influence. And it just really saddens me when

1221
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 20: I see it infiltrate the likes of the Olympics. Now,

1222
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 20: you know, I know that this is just one thing,

1223
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 20: but taking the flag away has sort of maybe accomplished

1224
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 20: a few things. Depending on which lends you looking through,

1225
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 20: I guess it's center political signal, and you know it

1226
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 20: has mattered in that regard, but really a tool to

1227
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 20: change the way that the Kremlin actually do their policy,

1228
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 20: I would suggest it's been largely symbolic. And you know

1229
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 20: the other thing that really doesn't sit well with me

1230
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 20: is why is the Ukraine Russia conflict any different to

1231
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 20: the Israel Palestine conflict with regards to if you want

1232
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 20: to infiltrate sport, why you're not imposing the same sanctions?

1233
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 20: And then who would you impose them on? Which impose

1234
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 20: them on Israel? Would you pose them on palestinean? What

1235
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 20: a mess? Just stay out of it.

1236
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 2: I love that rule. I love that rule. Does they

1237
00:57:58,120 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 2: have said it to you so many times? Politics stay

1238
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 2: out sports needs to start a politics.

1239
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 21: It can't happen. Well, it doesn't happen tootally you look

1240
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 21: at it, sporting politicians and twined they always have been

1241
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 21: no as will be. I think it's a very simplistic

1242
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 21: concept to say stay out, you can't do it. And

1243
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 21: in a perfect world, I get it. I'll be all

1244
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 21: over there. You know what I think about politics. So

1245
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 21: that's why I don't do your show. I love it,

1246
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 21: but unfortunately it is and these power games are played,

1247
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 21: and I look at Juda and I look back at

1248
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 21: the relationship between International Judo and Putin and what happens there,

1249
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 21: And I'm thinking, okay, are we going to follow the

1250
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,959
Speaker 21: money trail? What's actually happening here? Why has he made

1251
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 21: that decision? I don't think it came from nowhere. It's

1252
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 21: an interesting judo I think he does.

1253
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, he does.

1254
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 2: He loves to know. I think so nicky. He gets

1255
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 2: gets us top off and then he wrestles.

1256
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 21: And then he gets on a horse and yeah, gallop

1257
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 21: through it. For international Judo, it's an interesting hill to die.

1258
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 21: It's one not I wouldn't choose. But look, it's their federation.

1259
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 21: They can do what they will. I wonder what pushback

1260
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 21: they'll get from this at all level where maybe Ukraine

1261
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 21: fighters go, well, you know what, I'm not fighting him,

1262
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 21: and then it really starts, well what.

1263
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 2: You want to do is fighting this is for the

1264
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 2: for the crimea bang. Listen, now, do you have any

1265
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 2: theory for me saying as you're coming in hot Nikki

1266
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 2: today on why it is that the f one is

1267
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 2: dragging out the Liam Lawson confirmation that we all know

1268
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 2: is going to happen. They make it this a weird

1269
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 2: about this look.

1270
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 20: I think they're just trying to concentrate on the Constructors' Championship.

1271
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 20: Maybe they haven't made up their minds, but well, I

1272
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 20: know to me, to me, it's obvious he's fighting for

1273
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 20: that one seat in the Racing bulls team. You know

1274
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 20: it's him. It's a more sonoda and you know, I

1275
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 20: guess on record you have to say that sort of

1276
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 20: Liam holds a trump card, but not taking anything for

1277
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 20: granted and modort wort is not my area of expertise,

1278
00:59:58,000 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 20: but even I get a feeling that he's going to

1279
00:59:59,920 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 20: have a seat next year, whether it's with Racing Balls

1280
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 20: or potentially another you know, middle order team like Pass

1281
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 20: or Williams or something like that.

1282
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, do you think does do you

1283
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 2: think that the English are going to sort themselves out?

1284
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 2: Are they going to still suck at the Ashes?

1285
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 21: Highly likely? I'm going to Glenn mcgrare it's going to

1286
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 21: be five nil. Is awful what they're doing and what

1287
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 21: they've done. But in saying that, the Australians are not

1288
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 21: without blame. If you look at that, just to Trevor's

1289
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 21: head innings, he could have been out on a number

1290
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 21: of occasions he was just as reckless and irresponsible as

1291
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 21: the middle Order of England. So when you've got essentially

1292
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 21: what was it, it was a series of T twenties

1293
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 21: masquerading as a Test match. Do you think that's going

1294
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 21: to change come next Thursday when it's when it's a

1295
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 21: pink ball test and Bristoe it's going to be even

1296
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 21: more scandalous or outrageous.

1297
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 20: Or Look, Bears is stuck between a rock and a

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Speaker 20: hard place here. You can't that's your strategy, and you

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Speaker 20: know he's gone on record to say that that's how

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Speaker 20: they're going to play, and you've got to trust the process.

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Speaker 20: Then you can't just suddenly go, oh, we've had one

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Speaker 20: loss and now we're going to change tech completely because

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Speaker 20: it undermines your your authority and your leadership. So he

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Speaker 20: kind of has to stick with it, and Stokes is

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Speaker 20: a big fan of that type of play too. But

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Speaker 20: you're damn right Brisbane under the lights with a pink

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Speaker 20: ball and a bouncy pitch, it's going to make great

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Speaker 20: viewing anyway.

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Speaker 21: He's the cricket in God's punishing all those New Zealanders

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Speaker 21: for going to play for England.

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Speaker 3: How did did you.

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Speaker 2: Read that passport? Did you read the article about Jeff

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Speaker 2: Lawson and witnessing David Boone sink fifty two tenneyes on

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Speaker 2: the flight before the ashes.

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Speaker 21: I had a cricket team in christ and we used

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Speaker 21: to wear a beige that was way back in the day.

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Speaker 21: I had them designed for us and we were called

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Speaker 21: Team Boone to celebrate Boone, and our cats cry for

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Speaker 21: dedication was fifty two boys, fifty two boys, Let's get

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Speaker 21: on there. So I love that that story coming.

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Speaker 2: Back and producer ants is lamenting the fact that we

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Speaker 2: don't get behind the scenes yarns like this anymore, and

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Speaker 2: I feel it as a passage, isn't it.

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Speaker 20: Oh look, yeah, there's some goodies. But the problem with

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Speaker 20: these days is that you've got social media everywhere, and

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Speaker 20: you know, people like him would have been video doing it.

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Speaker 20: It would have been a catastrophe. I'm sure there's still

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Speaker 20: elements of it's still happening, but also we live in

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Speaker 20: a much more professional sports environment, yeah, a little more tempered.

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Speaker 21: Just a word on McCallum. There's a good story from

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Speaker 21: early days and he's really young, it's like a teenager

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Speaker 21: and he came in and he played Cracke at a

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Speaker 21: top level and he went out just trying to flog

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Speaker 21: the ball all over the boundary and try to smash

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Speaker 21: it there and there. And they're like, bro, you're gonna

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Speaker 21: just like you know, calm down all the older guys

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Speaker 21: and goes, this is how I play, and I'm not

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Speaker 21: going to stop and.

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Speaker 3: Look and he walked off the pitch and that's so

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Speaker 3: he's true to form.

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Speaker 2: Yep, at least he at least he's authentic. Hey guys,

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Speaker 2: it's lovely to shat you enjoy your weekend day. That's start.

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Speaker 2: Nick Oh lovely, Oh you're so lovely, You're weirdo, Darcy

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Speaker 2: water Graves, Nicky Styrs. Sports Huddle seven from six.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on my Art Radio powered by News Talk ZBI.

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Speaker 2: I'm getting a lot of texts from people saying the

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Speaker 2: reason that the Russian athletes we kept out of Judo

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Speaker 2: was actually because of the drug cheating and not the

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Speaker 2: Ukraine invasion. That's what I thought as well, but no,

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Speaker 2: apparently was the Ukraine invasion. They had a neutral status

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Speaker 2: on them from the Judo International Federation or whatever, the

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01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 2: governing body is called it had a neutral status and

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Speaker 2: then following the invasion of Ukraine three and a half

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Speaker 2: almost four years ago, then it was shifted to now

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01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 2: you can't compete under your flag. So it is actually

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01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 2: about politics. So Royce's is reporting this Hong Kong fire

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01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 2: poses test for China's grip on the city. Now, if

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Speaker 2: you remember Peter Lewis, who joins us every Friday after

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Speaker 2: half past six, actually is in Hong Kong, so he's

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Speaker 2: going to talk us through that when he's with us.

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Speaker 2: Shortly three schools this year have had one hundred pass

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Speaker 2: rates for NCEEA Level three. The three schools are to

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Speaker 2: Kuta Ko Papa Maori or the Faro Tahi in christ Church,

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Speaker 2: Saint Dominic's College, a private school, and Monecow Christian School

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Speaker 2: which is also a private school. Now, the reason it

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Speaker 2: is the same reason that all three have because I mean,

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent pass rate is pretty outstanding, right, But

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Speaker 2: the reason all three have managed to achieve that is

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Speaker 2: because they have very very they're very small schools. So

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Speaker 2: Takuta down in christ Church fourteen school leavers, Sint Dominic's

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Speaker 2: ten school leavers in Manicow Christian School twelve school leavers.

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Speaker 2: So that's the reason why the team here have taken

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Speaker 2: no end of pleasure in going going and have a

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Speaker 2: looking at my old alma mater. To call my school

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Speaker 2: my alma mater is definitely to make it seem much

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Speaker 2: leafier than it actually was. And I'm happy to report

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Speaker 2: to you that it is something of a miracle that

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Speaker 2: I have managed to graduate in CEA level three, although

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Speaker 2: this will go some way to explaining why basic maths

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Speaker 2: is beyond me. From time to time, there were more

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Speaker 2: kids who left without in CEA three this year at

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01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 2: Tuakou College then kids who did leave with NCAA level three.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's that's my story for you right there.

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01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 2: But look, hey, I'm one that got away with NCEEA

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Speaker 2: level three. Yeah, for me, something's happening after six. I

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Speaker 2: can't tell you about what's exciting. If you like water

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01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 2: and if you like warm water, so stand by.

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Speaker 3: What's up? What's down? What were the major calls and

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Speaker 3: how will it affect the economy?

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Speaker 1: The big business questions on the Business hour, We've had

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Speaker 1: the duplicy Allen and Mass motor vehicle insurance.

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Speaker 3: Your futures had good hands us, talks'd be.

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Speaker 2: Even in coming up in the next hour. Peter Lewis

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Speaker 2: on the Hong Kong fire and the implications for China's

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Speaker 2: We're going to rap the political week that was, and

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Speaker 2: Gavin Gray is with us out of the UK of

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Speaker 2: course at seven past six. Now, after years of being mothballed,

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Speaker 2: Why Where the Thermal Springs are going to get a

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Speaker 2: huge do up. The investor, a new investor other is

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01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 2: set to buy the site and is planning a fifty

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01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 2: million dollar of development to develop the area into a

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Speaker 2: world class wellness destination, and the development is expected to

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Speaker 2: bring three hundred million dollars worth of economic activity in

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Speaker 2: the first five years of operation. Brandon Batttergoal is the

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Speaker 2: director of Why We're to Therm's Thermal Springs and is

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Speaker 2: with us now.

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Speaker 7: Hi Brandon, Hello Heather, Thanks for having us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, mate, very very good to talk to you. On

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Speaker 2: a scale of one to ten, how excited are you?

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Speaker 22: Well, I've just left the community consultation that we put

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Speaker 22: on an event here at Sugar Loaf.

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Speaker 7: We've put flyers out.

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Speaker 22: We expected, well, we didn't know what to expect, but

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Speaker 22: it looks like the whole community turned up. I've just

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Speaker 22: walked out of there, and completely overwhelmed with the support

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Speaker 22: that we had from everyone in the community. So I'm buzzing.

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Speaker 7: It's incredible.

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Speaker 2: What am I right in thinking that the old site

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Speaker 2: was completely demolished. You've got basically nothing there and you

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Speaker 2: can start all over again.

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Speaker 22: There's absolutely nothing that I'm looking at it now and

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01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 22: it's just a vacant site with some big piles of

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01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 22: crushed concrete, completely completely nothing. So you know, what we're

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01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 22: proposing is to We'll be putting our resource content application

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Speaker 22: of Council on Monday, and what we're proposing is twenty

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Speaker 22: eight pools on the site, plus a whole range of

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Speaker 22: wellness activities. Of those twenty eight pools, there all be

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Speaker 22: various different temperatures, different shapes, different sizes, and everyone has

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Speaker 22: access to everything.

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Speaker 7: It's a very inclusive experience of wellness.

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Speaker 22: You leave your city life, the busy life, come here

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Speaker 22: for a moment of calm, to connect with yourself, connect

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Speaker 22: with each other, connect with nature.

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Speaker 7: As I said, we just talked to the community about that.

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Speaker 22: We unveiled our plans, we showed them images, and it

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Speaker 22: was zero controversy.

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Speaker 7: We were just fully embraced by them.

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Speaker 2: I'm told by people who've seen the pictures of what

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Speaker 2: you're planning. There are no slides.

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Speaker 7: There are no slides. This is the new why we're okay?

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Speaker 7: So is it slides?

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Speaker 2: What I take from that is this is not for

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Speaker 2: the children.

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Speaker 21: This is fair.

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Speaker 2: You've got a bit of money and you want to

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01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,919
Speaker 2: treat yourself and have a spa. Is that type of vibe?

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01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 7: No, that is not it at all. Actually we're really

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Speaker 7: we're very, very inclusive, so we welcome families. Yeah.

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Speaker 22: Look, the development team here is really experienced, so you

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01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 22: can probably hear my Australian accent, but the full team

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01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 22: between us, we have a New Zealand partner as well.

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01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:22,600
Speaker 22: Between us, we have more than a decade experience of

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Speaker 22: running thermal springs and hot springs.

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01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:27,639
Speaker 7: We have operated and owned well.

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Speaker 22: I'm actually an owner and a shareholder and executive chairman

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01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 22: of Muija Hot Springs on the South Island between Nelson

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01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 22: and christ Church and Lewis Pass, but also have been

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01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 22: involved with Peninsula Hot Springs, which is ninety minutes out

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Speaker 22: of Melbourne, has five hundred and fifteen thousand to six

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01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 22: hundred thousand visitors. So we know what we're doing and

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Speaker 22: that's a lot of families. You can go with your parents,

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01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 22: you go with your children, you go with your partner,

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01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:54,799
Speaker 22: you go with your friends. It really is an inclusive experience.

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Speaker 22: You know, it has to be inclusive, and the price

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Speaker 22: point has to reflect that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know it's obviously a little bit

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Speaker 2: out of the way nowadays. So it's going to be

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Speaker 2: a destination, isn't It's it's going to be something that

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Speaker 2: people are going to go to special especially well.

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Speaker 22: I just I mean I've driven here a lot in

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Speaker 22: the last two years, as it's been two years in

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01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 22: the planning to come here today. It's just forty minutes

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Speaker 22: from the CBD along the motorway, But as soon as

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Speaker 22: you get off the motorway, you're you just suddenly can breathe,

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01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 22: and then you drive into way. We're are forty minutes

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Speaker 22: after leaving the CBD and and it's like you've just

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01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 22: left the city and your busy life and the hectic life,

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Speaker 22: and you come here to slow down, to relax and

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Speaker 22: to connect.

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Speaker 7: It's going to be incredible.

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Speaker 2: Brandon, thank you, mate, appreciate Brandon Badagold, the director of

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Speaker 2: Why We're to Thermal Springs six to eleven.

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Speaker 3: Ever, du c Ellen hither.

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01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 2: I've heard the why we're to redevelopment story every five

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01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 2: years since nineteen eighty five. Don't hold your breath, do

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01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 2: you go? Like I know, look, I know I'm going

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01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 2: to ask you this question, and you're immediately going to

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01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 2: pig me as Oh yep, didn't actually pass INTOA level

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01:09:57,640 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 2: three at two ocour College. But is the thermal hot

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01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 2: springs you go to in the winter? Is it something

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01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 2: you can go to in the winter time as well

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01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 2: as the summertime? When I was going to to Aco College,

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01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 2: I had one down the road, Miranda Hot Springs, and

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01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 2: I can't remember, like I kind of gave up going

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01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 2: to the hot springs. It became very unfashionable to go

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01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 2: to the hot springs because the hot springs were all

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01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 2: kind of done at the same time, and by the

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01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 2: time I was going to school, they looked really cruddy,

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01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? Like even and that's

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01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 2: even when I was going to school, and we're talking

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01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:32,560
Speaker 2: like twenty thirty thirty left, Shall we be honest about this?

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01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:35,560
Speaker 2: Thirty years ago when I would have been going to

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01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 2: the hot springs, it was going cruddy. So it was

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01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 2: already like dilapidated and shite, so I stopped going to

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01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:42,120
Speaker 2: it as you do, so I can't remember if this

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01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 2: is something that you go to in the winter or

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01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 2: if it's something you go to in the summer. So

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Speaker 2: it hit me with that nine two niney two, because

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Speaker 2: this is an interesting thing that's happening in Hamilton this week,

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Speaker 2: and so if you if you see a lot of

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Speaker 2: people hanging about in Hamilton, if you're down there, what's

1514
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Speaker 2: going on is the new Mardy Queen is hosting a

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Speaker 2: global business summit tomorrow and the aim of this thing

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Speaker 2: is to basically untether the Maori economy from the New

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Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy different people. They are indigenous business

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Speaker 2: global leaders from across New Zealand, across the world, and

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Speaker 2: Used talks right seventeen pass. So let's wrap the political

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Speaker 2: week that was with Thomas Coglan the Herald's Political Edit

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Speaker 2: to welcome back Thomas.

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Speaker 16: Good afternoon.

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01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:09,599
Speaker 2: So it feels to me like the idea of scrapping

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01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:11,560
Speaker 2: the councilors on the regional councils has proved to be

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Speaker 2: quite popular.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, and I'm not surprised. Everyone around the country, and

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Speaker 16: I mean all of the political parties can see that

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01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 16: local government had some big issues and some big problems

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Speaker 16: and that some streamlining is required. Obviously there's a massive

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Speaker 16: amount of disagreement over what the streamlining is and the

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Speaker 16: plans for it. I guess the real question is what

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Speaker 16: these new mere panels of meors, the panels that are

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Speaker 16: replacing the regional councilors. The real question is what they

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Speaker 16: decide to do going forward. I mean, the regional councilors

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Speaker 16: are going to be gone for a couple of years

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Speaker 16: and that's sort of interesting. But the real question hanging

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01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:52,559
Speaker 16: over the way that local government works is will these

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Speaker 16: meors decide, hey, look, we just don't have enough money

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01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 16: to go forward as we are. Let's do some massive

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01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:03,680
Speaker 16: amalgamation and basically end up with eleven more Auckland style supersities.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now I think the number is going to be slightly more,

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Speaker 2: and I'll tell you why, because I was talking to

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Speaker 2: a farmer about this, and the farmer said, you can't

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01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 2: possibly amalgamate the wy Cato Regional Council area into one

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01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:19,679
Speaker 2: big regional council because the farmers don't want the townies.

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01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 2: They don't want to be way Cato's rural areas plus

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01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 2: Hamilton because they don't want the town's telling them what

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Speaker 2: to do. So you have to split up some of

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01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 2: these some of these areas have to be split up

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01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 2: a little smaller, right, yes.

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Speaker 16: And I why like that is one of them. And

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Speaker 16: I also think that Stay Walks Bay area Canterbury. Yeah,

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Speaker 16: and Canterbury is a real forty one because christ Church

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01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 16: is so large in Canterbury that it would basically be

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01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 16: christ Church and getting it say over basically everything. The

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01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 16: population is just so dominant, so those I mean, and

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Speaker 16: that's Wheree's where it gets quite interesting because those councils

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Speaker 16: have the ability to amalgamate a lot of stuff, to amalgamate,

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Speaker 16: you know, rubbish collection maybe, or a lot a lot

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Speaker 16: more transport. Obviously water is getting amalgamated anyway across a

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01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 16: lot of country. So you amalgamate some things, but you

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01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 16: keep the councils seemi independent. So I think I think

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01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 16: we're going to see lots of amalgamation. I guess eventually Wellington.

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Speaker 6: Is going to do it.

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Speaker 16: But I also think you're going to see some councils

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Speaker 16: stay independent, but they'll be forced to amalgamate a lot

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Speaker 16: of services. I think there's the other thing here that's

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Speaker 16: still working in the background is that the government is

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Speaker 16: standing behind these councils with a big stick saying well,

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Speaker 16: you have to present your plans, but we're the ones

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Speaker 16: who are going to be marking your homework. You know,

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Speaker 16: the local government ministers is going to be the one

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Speaker 16: who says whether the plans that these mayors submit are

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Speaker 16: sufficient to what the government wants. And so if the

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01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 16: councils come back and say, hey, look we want to

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Speaker 16: stay independent, and the local government minister has the ability

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01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 16: to say, I'm sorry, you know, you're the plane you've

1619
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:53,800
Speaker 16: submitted is not is 'tenough to scratch, you know, go

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Speaker 16: back again and do it again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, sounds to me like the coup is off.

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01:15:58,080 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 2: Bishop didn't have enough numbers.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, that's that's that's my understanding as well. It's sort

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Speaker 16: of the shadow coup where I think someone was flying

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01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 16: a kite to say, hey, look if this coup, if

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Speaker 16: there were to be a change of leadership, you know,

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Speaker 16: what do you think about that national caucus? And it

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01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 16: sounds like not enough people to use. And it also

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01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 16: sounds like a lot of yewy senior national MPs, very

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01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 16: various senior right at the top of the party. They've

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01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 16: got memories of what happened in twenty twenty when there

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01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 16: was a bit of a was it when there was

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Speaker 16: a lot of destabilization and they don't want to revisit

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01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:32,720
Speaker 16: that period so rightly wrongly, those MP's have decided that

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01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 16: that's not going to happen. So the sort of shadow

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01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 16: coup that was a maybe coup is the willy won't

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01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 16: be be a cop. It sounds like there was very

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01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:41,639
Speaker 16: much off the table at the moment.

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01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:44,800
Speaker 2: How do you feel, how do you reckon Winston's feeling

1640
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 2: at the moment with both sides flourishing at him with

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01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 2: the repeal of the Regulatory Standards Act.

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01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:53,800
Speaker 16: Yeah, it's interesting, like so you've got obviously off the

1643
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 16: whole opposition all the way down to Party Maori. That's

1644
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:58,560
Speaker 16: something that New zealand'sers and to Party Maurray agree on.

1645
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:01,680
Speaker 16: And then obviously you've no he's on National saying yep,

1646
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 16: we could very well campaign on repealing the Regulatory Standard

1647
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:07,679
Speaker 16: Ack as well. I wonder how David seam was feeling

1648
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 16: about that, because it's pretty lonely. It's pretty lonely in

1649
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 16: support of that of that legislation. Interestingly, today Seemaur put

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01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 16: out a press release discussing the hundreds of millions of

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01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:20,360
Speaker 16: dollars of benefits that is coming from his regulatory sort

1652
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:23,679
Speaker 16: of focus. So he believes, for I think about twenty

1653
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:28,800
Speaker 16: million dollars worth of taxpayer investment, I've seen a massive

1654
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:32,080
Speaker 16: return on investment in terms of the regulations that what

1655
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 16: their regulations have. Declaring away of regulations, I should say,

1656
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 16: has done for the economy. But it's a pretty lonely

1657
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:39,880
Speaker 16: position for it because everyone else wants to get rid

1658
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:40,800
Speaker 16: of the regular story standard.

1659
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 13: Ack.

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Speaker 8: And you've seen today news that Alex Master's former Winston

1661
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 8: Peters press secretary is going to be joining the Labor

1662
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 8: Party as Labor's chief press secretary going off the election.

1663
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 8: So you know, Labor's even poaching, even poaching Winston's old staff.

1664
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:56,320
Speaker 16: It's all on.

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01:17:57,439 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 7: It is all on.

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01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 2: Hey, thank you very much, Thomas, appreciate it. Thomas Coglin,

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01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:03,600
Speaker 2: the Herald's political edits a wrapping the political week. That was,

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01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 2: by the way, I got a text earlier saying wins

1669
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 2: Barry back. Barry actually finished his book. He finished it yesterday,

1670
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 2: he sent it to the publisher. But then you know,

1671
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 2: had he actually he was planning a nice lunch with

1672
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 2: a mate today, but then childcare was sick. So he's

1673
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:20,720
Speaker 2: done babysitting today. Anyhow, he is going to be back

1674
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:23,920
Speaker 2: on Monday. I've got an answer on the hot pools

1675
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 2: stand by Sex twenty two.

1676
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:29,080
Speaker 3: Whether it's macro micro or just plain economics.

1677
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 1: It's all on the Business Hour with Heather d for

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Speaker 1: CILA and MAS Motor Vehicle Insurance.

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Speaker 3: Your futures in good hands us talks.

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Speaker 2: That'd be Heather a wellness center for kids. They're not

1681
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 2: going to be interested without the slides.

1682
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 8: No.

1683
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 2: Look, I've looked at the pictures now and this is

1684
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:47,840
Speaker 2: not a kid friendly place. This is and you don't

1685
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 2: want to take your kids to it because there are

1686
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 2: no slides, and you don't want other people to bring

1687
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 2: their kids because you're trying to relax and it's flash.

1688
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 2: It's way too boogie for the children. Very happy to

1689
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:58,720
Speaker 2: report to you, Yes, you can go to the hot

1690
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 2: the thermal pools in the Wes to What I'm trying

1691
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:03,600
Speaker 2: to establish is are they actually warm enough to be

1692
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 2: in them in the winter? And Ants tells me the

1693
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 2: elephant pool was so hot that you could do wash

1694
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:09,640
Speaker 2: in it.

1695
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 11: You could boil noodles in the elephant pool. I never

1696
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 11: understood the elephant pool at why we're not only was

1697
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:17,679
Speaker 11: it really really shallow, but the I mean, it's hot pools.

1698
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:19,720
Speaker 11: I get that, But there's hot pools and then there's this.

1699
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 11: I could never sit in it for more than five

1700
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 11: minutes without feeling like I was going to start getting schooled.

1701
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 11: Like the death pool people who are like SPA enthusiasts,

1702
01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 11: I don't understand them. I don't get them.

1703
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1704
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:31,160
Speaker 2: How do you understand the people who get into ice

1705
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 2: baths for five minutes and then come out and like

1706
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 2: reverberate with all their energy.

1707
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 11: Well, actually I know because I've done that before. I've

1708
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:39,680
Speaker 11: gone and had a cold shower and then jumped in

1709
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:41,240
Speaker 11: the sauna and then jumped out and had a cold

1710
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 11: shower and stuff like.

1711
01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 2: You know, you do get a little bit of a

1712
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:43,840
Speaker 2: buzz from them.

1713
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 11: I just feel like that when you're getting in the

1714
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:46,759
Speaker 11: hot pool, I want to get in like a warm

1715
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 11: pool rather than something that's thirty whatever degrees.

1716
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 2: Well, no, thirty watering for degrees is okay. When you're

1717
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:54,719
Speaker 2: talking about at the noodle stage is like that's extreme.

1718
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 11: Yeah, you're right, actually right, don't plot on noodles.

1719
01:19:56,479 --> 01:20:00,799
Speaker 2: And so anyway, he's he this being ants is starting

1720
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 2: to bring back the elephant pool thing six twenty six.

1721
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 3: There's no business like show business genis now.

1722
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 2: When you think of wedding singer, you probably don't think

1723
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Speaker 2: of someone at the peak of their career. You think

1724
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:14,800
Speaker 2: of somebody doing the low Renk covers and your drunk

1725
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:16,519
Speaker 2: ants is the only person on the dance floor. But

1726
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 2: it actually turns out some of the world's most popular

1727
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:22,479
Speaker 2: musicians are actually making a good buck of performing at weddings.

1728
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:25,560
Speaker 2: J Loo Jennifer Lopez, performed at the wedding of the

1729
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:29,679
Speaker 2: Indian pharmaceutical eras Netra Midtena and the tech entrepreneur Varmi

1730
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 2: Guddy Raju last weekend and for her trouble she got

1731
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 2: paid three point three million dollars and she went all out.

1732
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 2: She had the costume changes and the multiple hits and

1733
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:39,679
Speaker 2: even a Champagne toast to the couple.

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Speaker 3: You don't.

1735
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:53,519
Speaker 2: They're celebrated. How good J Loo is actually cheap by

1736
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 2: the way, So if you're thinking about an A list

1737
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:56,800
Speaker 2: performer and you've got lots of money, you could go

1738
01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 2: Beyoncey nearly seven million dollars when she did the perform

1739
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 2: and said the Indian billionaire wedding wedding. She did forty

1740
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 2: five minutes. By the way, Rihanna, that's fifteen point seven

1741
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:08,800
Speaker 2: million New Zealand dollars, so you're very loaded for that.

1742
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:12,160
Speaker 2: Christina Aguilera is going to set you back about five mil.

1743
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 2: She's going to perform only three songs. Alternative as you

1744
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 2: could just get the pub band and back in the

1745
01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:21,240
Speaker 2: day could have gone to Wywad to Pools as well,

1746
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:24,240
Speaker 2: couldn't you. Peter Lewis with us next out of Hong Kong.

1747
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 1: For you everything from SMEs to the big corporates, the

1748
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Speaker 1: Business Hour with the head of Duper c Allen and

1749
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:41,679
Speaker 1: Mass Motor Vehicle Insurance. Your futures in good hands. Used

1750
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Speaker 1: talks'd be.

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Speaker 2: Heather Read the regional council's dissolvement. What happens to the

1752
01:21:56,320 --> 01:22:00,280
Speaker 2: Hawks Bay Regional Council's fifty five percent ownership of Napier Port. Well,

1753
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 2: the regional councils are not being dissolved. I'm sorry to

1754
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 2: break this news to you. The regional councils are not

1755
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:10,840
Speaker 2: being dissolved just yet. It's the councilors that sit around

1756
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 2: the table who are being the other ones, you know,

1757
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 2: doing that. We're doing the old head off with them.

1758
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:20,120
Speaker 2: The councils actually remain. The function remains. So all those

1759
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 2: dudes who sit there going I'm making all the plans,

1760
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 2: you know, all they're like the gray bureaucrats, they still stay.

1761
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 2: And then what happened, So the ownership is unchanged, because

1762
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:31,840
Speaker 2: the owner, because the entity remains. Therefore the ownership remains.

1763
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:33,880
Speaker 2: But then what's going to happen if you follow this

1764
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:36,519
Speaker 2: and read my column at the weekend, Actually this we'll

1765
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:38,679
Speaker 2: explain it to you. I I personally think rather nicely.

1766
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:42,760
Speaker 2: What then happens next is that, hopefully, as Thomas has

1767
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 2: explained to us, these these existing councils, which still exist,

1768
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:48,679
Speaker 2: then hover up everything else and suck up the little

1769
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 2: city council, suck up the little district councils, kind of

1770
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 2: like what happened with Auckland Council and turning into the supercity.

1771
01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:56,679
Speaker 2: We used to remember, we used to have Manekow City Council,

1772
01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 2: Franklin District Council, all of that stuff, and then Nick

1773
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:00,960
Speaker 2: and Auckland City can and then all just got sucked

1774
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 2: up an Auckland Regional Council. All got sucked up into

1775
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 2: one council. That's what we're hoping to do. Listen. The

1776
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 2: publishers of the unauthorized Jacinda Biography want you to know

1777
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:12,759
Speaker 2: because they keep telling us this every week. It's doing

1778
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:15,680
Speaker 2: really well, like people are really buying it. They put

1779
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:18,519
Speaker 2: out another press release today. They've almost completely sold out

1780
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 2: of seven thousand copies, which basically makes it very close

1781
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:23,880
Speaker 2: to a double best seller. The third print run has

1782
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:26,519
Speaker 2: now been delivered. It's become one of the country's fastest

1783
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:29,320
Speaker 2: moving political books of the year. It's number four in

1784
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:32,160
Speaker 2: the New Zealand best seller List brackets New Zealand non

1785
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:34,720
Speaker 2: Fiction in its second week. It's actually and I have

1786
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 2: to say, did did quite enjoy this? It's actually overtaken

1787
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 2: Jasin Dardun's own memoir. According to the Nielson IQ Book

1788
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:46,760
Speaker 2: Data New Zealand Data, Auckland Council Libraries now have over

1789
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:50,320
Speaker 2: three hundred and twenty holds on the book. Multiple booksellers

1790
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 2: have sold through their initial allocations. So there you go.

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Speaker 2: If you're thinking, I don't know what am I going

1792
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:59,400
Speaker 2: to buy the husband this Christmas? I mean, could you

1793
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:03,439
Speaker 2: go wrong? Could you do worse than buying him a

1794
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:08,479
Speaker 2: book about just Sinder? Could you do worse than that?

1795
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:11,920
Speaker 2: He'd open it up on Christmas Day and immediately the

1796
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:14,760
Speaker 2: day would be ruined. Maybe don't do it for Christmas Day,

1797
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:17,599
Speaker 2: Maybe just to have it like I don't know, maybe

1798
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:21,320
Speaker 2: Valentine's Day or something like that. Twenty two away from seven.

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Speaker 2: Peter lewis our Asia Business correspondence with us right now, Hi, Peter,

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Speaker 2: Hello there, Heather. Okay, the fire in Hong Kong. I mean,

1801
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Speaker 2: you know every day that the number gets worse in

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01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 2: terms of the death tollon's very bloody close to one

1803
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 2: hundred now is the problem from the sounds of things,

1804
01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:40,679
Speaker 2: the scaffolding and the cladding around it for the renovations.

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Speaker 6: That seems to be one of the issues. As you

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01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 6: probably know. I mean, bamboo scaffolding around buildings, high rise

1807
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:53,720
Speaker 6: buildings in Hong Kong is a pretty iconic sight. It's

1808
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:56,479
Speaker 6: one of the things that you see almost every day

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Speaker 6: in the city and it's been used since the nineteen

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Speaker 6: sixty when the first economic boom really started in Hong

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Speaker 6: Kong and there was a lot of need to put

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Speaker 6: up high rise blocks very quickly, and bamboo is very

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Speaker 6: very plentiful. It's been used in China for a thousand years,

1814
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:18,519
Speaker 6: so it's very light, very portable, very easy to cut

1815
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Speaker 6: into the right sort of lengths, and the city employs

1816
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Speaker 6: thousands of people who are experts at putting up this

1817
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Speaker 6: bamboo scaffolding tig in altogether. And it's quite a sight

1818
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 6: because they can have a whole building covered in about

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Speaker 6: a day in the scaffolding. So it's sort of almost

1820
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Speaker 6: part of sort of Hong Kong's infrastructure. But the problem

1821
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:45,040
Speaker 6: is it is flammable, and as we saw in this

1822
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Speaker 6: particular fire, there are eight residential blocks in the estate

1823
01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 6: in Typo, seven of them caught fire, and it's clearly

1824
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:57,080
Speaker 6: because of the flammable materials around all the buildings, spreading

1825
01:25:57,200 --> 01:26:02,160
Speaker 6: very quickly from one to So that's definitely one aspect

1826
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:05,519
Speaker 6: of this that's going to be focused on in the

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Speaker 6: aftermath of this tragedy. The other one is just how

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Speaker 6: poorly Hong Kong enforces it's building regulations, it's health and

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Speaker 6: safety regulations. I mean, we hear all the time in

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Speaker 6: Hong Kong of construction workers being killed on construction sites,

1831
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:28,719
Speaker 6: window cleaners falling off of high rise buildings, of people

1832
01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:32,680
Speaker 6: workers falling off this scaffolding, and it seems, you know,

1833
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:35,519
Speaker 6: there has been an issue for a long time with

1834
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Speaker 6: the regulations. Not that the regulations don't exist, they're just

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Speaker 6: not enforced very well. And it appears that in this

1836
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:47,759
Speaker 6: particular case, the regulators have issued several fire hazard warnings

1837
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Speaker 6: about these buildings which have been under renovation now since

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01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 6: twenty twenty four, and nothing was done about it. So

1839
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:58,719
Speaker 6: this clearly is going to be a big focus after

1840
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 6: the event and once we know the final toll from

1841
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:05,559
Speaker 6: this terrible tragedy. But it's almost certain to become Hong

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Speaker 6: Kong's worst fire. The one so far. There's a fire

1843
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:13,120
Speaker 6: in nineteen forty eight that killed one hundred and seventy

1844
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:17,679
Speaker 6: six people. But you know, these units in Taypo housed

1845
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:20,519
Speaker 6: over four and a half thousand people and there's still

1846
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:24,960
Speaker 6: several hundred people unaccounted for, So this really could easily

1847
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Speaker 6: turn into Hong Kong's deadliest fire.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, incredibly said, Listen, what's going on with China and

1849
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Speaker 2: depends new prime minister? Why is it so heated?

1850
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Speaker 6: Well, it's a bit of a mystery as to why

1851
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:42,639
Speaker 6: Takichi has done this, she says. She's just stated there's

1852
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Speaker 6: no change in Japan's policy towards China and its position

1853
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:52,759
Speaker 6: over Taiwan, and she was just stating when it's always

1854
01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 6: been and that you know, she was just responding to

1855
01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 6: a question in parliament. So it begs the question, if

1856
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:02,800
Speaker 6: you're just staydating what is already known, why state it

1857
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:05,680
Speaker 6: at all, why even mention it? Because she must have

1858
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:08,759
Speaker 6: known that this was going to be a red flag

1859
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 6: to the ball when it comes to China. China is

1860
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:15,120
Speaker 6: very very sensitive to these issues. Now there's certainly a

1861
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:19,519
Speaker 6: feeling that maybe China itself is rather overreacting to this,

1862
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:23,800
Speaker 6: but nevertheless, there are also question marks over what Takij's

1863
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:27,599
Speaker 6: agenda is. But it appears she's been told by President

1864
01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:29,560
Speaker 6: Trump to calm it down a little bit and to

1865
01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 6: not escalate the tensions. He got involved earlier in the

1866
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Speaker 6: week with a call, took a call from Jiji Ping

1867
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 6: about this, and he in turn call Takiji and according

1868
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:47,759
Speaker 6: to reports, he asked her diplomatically not to escalate things

1869
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:52,000
Speaker 6: now as true, that alone tells you a couple of things.

1870
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Speaker 6: First of all, it's unusual for Jiji Ping to initiate

1871
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Speaker 6: a call to Donald Trump, so it really shows that

1872
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 6: he is looking for help and support on this issue,

1873
01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:05,960
Speaker 6: and for Taiwan's and for their position on Taiwan. He

1874
01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 6: was quoting the post World War II order, which he

1875
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 6: says both China and the US help to create because

1876
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:17,240
Speaker 6: they both thought to click together in the Second World War.

1877
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Speaker 6: So he's really raising ratcheting up the odds sort of here,

1878
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:24,040
Speaker 6: And in turn, it sort of seems to suggest as

1879
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:27,679
Speaker 6: well that Donald Trump doesn't want to have anything that's

1880
01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:31,479
Speaker 6: going to potentially disrupt his chances of a trade deal

1881
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:37,000
Speaker 6: with China, and that includes Taiwan, and that includes Japan's

1882
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 6: sort of escalation of this matter, even though he told

1883
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:43,479
Speaker 6: Takiji when he was in Japan just a few weeks

1884
01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:46,680
Speaker 6: ago that they were best friends. All she had to

1885
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:49,680
Speaker 6: do was call him and he will provide anything that

1886
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 6: Japan needed. So clearly there's a lot of angles to

1887
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 6: this incident and this diplomatic spat.

1888
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Speaker 2: Peter, thanks very much, look after yourself. We'll talk to

1889
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Speaker 2: you next week. That's Peter. What was our Asia business correspondent?

1890
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Speaker 12: Now?

1891
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:05,599
Speaker 2: I don't really want to wind you up this late

1892
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 2: on a Friday afternoon, but you might want to hear

1893
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:11,200
Speaker 2: about what some consultants are charging, because it's who it's

1894
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:13,360
Speaker 2: good money. I'll tell you about a shortly sixteen away

1895
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:13,840
Speaker 2: from seven.

1896
01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:17,519
Speaker 3: Well, if it's to do with money, it matters to you.

1897
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Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Heather Duplicy Allen and Mayre's Motor

1898
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Speaker 1: Vehicle Insurance Your futures in good hands used talks it'd.

1899
01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:30,200
Speaker 2: Be Kevin Gray UK corresponds with us. Now, hey, Gevini

1900
01:30:30,439 --> 01:30:32,160
Speaker 2: had ah but of a U turn from the government.

1901
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:36,200
Speaker 14: Nah, screeching U turn. This one one of the big

1902
01:30:36,280 --> 01:30:39,759
Speaker 14: planks of their manifesto was talking of basically a worker's

1903
01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:42,720
Speaker 14: rights document and they were really going to rip up

1904
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:46,519
Speaker 14: the existing legislation and introduce things which were much much

1905
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:51,280
Speaker 14: friendlier to the employee, not the employer, and that included

1906
01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:55,559
Speaker 14: a right to unfair dismissal claims from the very first

1907
01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:59,840
Speaker 14: day in their job. Now, this had been very controversial

1908
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:02,680
Speaker 14: many big companies saying it is going to make us

1909
01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:05,960
Speaker 14: very reluctant to hire people knowing that they could turn

1910
01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:08,760
Speaker 14: up on the first day and then say, oh right,

1911
01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:13,400
Speaker 14: I didn't like this, so yeah, that's not good, and

1912
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:15,800
Speaker 14: you then dismiss them and then they go away and

1913
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:19,000
Speaker 14: claim on an industrial tribunal that you've done something wrong.

1914
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:22,400
Speaker 14: And indeed, the House of Lords, the Second Chamber here

1915
01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:26,640
Speaker 14: had already begun to express a bit of opposition to it.

1916
01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:30,960
Speaker 14: So the government's climbed down on this and other new

1917
01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:34,439
Speaker 14: day one rights are to sick pay and paternity leave.

1918
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Speaker 3: They will still go ahead.

1919
01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:39,759
Speaker 14: They are very controversial, but it looks like the biggest

1920
01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:42,719
Speaker 14: one that people were worried about, employers were worried about,

1921
01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:46,840
Speaker 14: was this idea of unfair dismissal on day one. Currently,

1922
01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:49,800
Speaker 14: employers face additional legal hurdles if they want to sack

1923
01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 14: employees who've been in the role for more than two years,

1924
01:31:53,840 --> 01:31:56,479
Speaker 14: they've got to identify a fair reason for dismissal, like

1925
01:31:56,600 --> 01:32:01,320
Speaker 14: conduct or capability, and show that they acted reason following

1926
01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 14: a sort of fair process that the government labored plan

1927
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:09,840
Speaker 14: to abolish that alongside new legal probationary periods likely to

1928
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:12,439
Speaker 14: have been nine months, So a real big climb down.

1929
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Speaker 14: Most of the unions saying okay, though Unite Union, one

1930
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Speaker 14: of the big ones that works throughout the NHS, that

1931
01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:21,600
Speaker 14: the uturn would damage worker's confidence.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Now, what do you make of the fact that

1933
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Speaker 2: the knit migration's fallen back so far.

1934
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Speaker 14: I think it's a really interesting one for the government.

1935
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Speaker 14: There's plenty there that they might have been tempted to celebrate,

1936
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Speaker 14: but here's the.

1937
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Speaker 3: Bad news for them.

1938
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Speaker 14: First of all, experts are saying the drop from two

1939
01:32:38,439 --> 01:32:41,680
Speaker 14: hundred and four thousand in this September twenty four to

1940
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Speaker 14: September twenty five period is significantly down from six hundred

1941
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:49,840
Speaker 14: and forty nine thousand, so dropped by two thirds in

1942
01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:55,240
Speaker 14: the previous year in comparison. But many experts are saying

1943
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:58,320
Speaker 14: the reason for that is fewer people arriving for work

1944
01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:00,719
Speaker 14: and study and the re and there are a fewer

1945
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:03,360
Speaker 14: people arriving for worker study is because of a bit

1946
01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:07,880
Speaker 14: of legislation that the previous government introduced just before they

1947
01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:09,519
Speaker 14: got the boot at the general election.

1948
01:33:09,960 --> 01:33:12,599
Speaker 3: And that previous bit of legislation was really.

1949
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:18,000
Speaker 14: Massively increasing the minimum wage that an asylum that somebody

1950
01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:20,960
Speaker 14: coming over to work had to be guaranteed by their

1951
01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:23,880
Speaker 14: employer if they were going to be able to come

1952
01:33:23,960 --> 01:33:26,599
Speaker 14: into the UK and work here. And that big hike

1953
01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:29,920
Speaker 14: simply put lots of people off offering those jobs out

1954
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Speaker 14: and meant it became very very specialist, and that put

1955
01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:35,559
Speaker 14: a lot of people off, and that's what is behind

1956
01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:37,720
Speaker 14: the drop. But it's not all good news either for

1957
01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:41,559
Speaker 14: this government because I'm afraid. It's also been announced at

1958
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:46,479
Speaker 14: the time of a huge increase in the amount of

1959
01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:49,920
Speaker 14: people are seeking asylum, up to a high of one

1960
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:54,080
Speaker 14: hundred and ten thousand, and the numbers in hotels that

1961
01:33:54,120 --> 01:33:57,439
Speaker 14: we've talked about before, that's increased by two percent. And

1962
01:33:57,600 --> 01:34:01,320
Speaker 14: here's one statistic for you, Heather. All these people claiming

1963
01:34:01,360 --> 01:34:03,599
Speaker 14: aside of one hundred and ten thousand, no wonder they're

1964
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:07,320
Speaker 14: coming across because in the last year almost half were

1965
01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:11,640
Speaker 14: granted asylum at the initial decision and that is a

1966
01:34:11,720 --> 01:34:14,559
Speaker 14: staggering thing to suggest that modern half have a good case.

1967
01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:16,960
Speaker 14: So I think that's the one of the big draws

1968
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:19,080
Speaker 14: that they're talking about for people to come to the UK.

1969
01:34:19,439 --> 01:34:20,800
Speaker 2: I think it might be on to something Kevin has

1970
01:34:20,800 --> 01:34:24,360
Speaker 2: always appreciated. Gavin Gray, UK Correspondent. Okay, here we go.

1971
01:34:24,479 --> 01:34:26,720
Speaker 2: What about this for the gravy trainer. Can you know

1972
01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:29,280
Speaker 2: there was that plan We've been talking about this since

1973
01:34:29,320 --> 01:34:32,320
Speaker 2: probably about two thousand and eight to simplify public transport

1974
01:34:32,360 --> 01:34:34,080
Speaker 2: all over New Zealand, so that you have one card

1975
01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:36,040
Speaker 2: and then you can jump on public transport anywhere and

1976
01:34:36,120 --> 01:34:38,320
Speaker 2: it will basically pay for your public transport. So jump

1977
01:34:38,360 --> 01:34:40,559
Speaker 2: on a train in Wellington, you use the card, jump

1978
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:42,679
Speaker 2: on a bus in Auckland you use the card, jump

1979
01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:44,200
Speaker 2: on a theory into need and you use the card.

1980
01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:46,719
Speaker 2: You don't have to have different cards fit like Oyster

1981
01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:49,400
Speaker 2: cards and Hopper cards and snap cards whatever they call it.

1982
01:34:49,400 --> 01:34:52,680
Speaker 2: I don't even know anyway. So that thing that we

1983
01:34:52,760 --> 01:34:54,720
Speaker 2: started talking about in two thousand and eight we were

1984
01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:57,920
Speaker 2: supposed to have I think next year, and I think

1985
01:34:57,920 --> 01:35:00,200
Speaker 2: it's been pushed back. But regardless, whatever the story, we

1986
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:03,479
Speaker 2: don't have it right. It's well overdue. Now we find

1987
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:06,479
Speaker 2: out what NZTA is paying people. And the whole thing,

1988
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:08,120
Speaker 2: by the way, has cost let me just get you

1989
01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:10,880
Speaker 2: that number. Yeah, two hundred and one million dollars so far.

1990
01:35:11,120 --> 01:35:13,840
Speaker 2: So that's a lot of money. The reason it's costing

1991
01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:15,960
Speaker 2: so much money is because they've got people working on

1992
01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:18,599
Speaker 2: this project charging as much as five hundred and thirty

1993
01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:22,200
Speaker 2: five dollars an hour. Five hundred and thirty five dollars

1994
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:24,120
Speaker 2: an hour, that is what one of the consultants is charging.

1995
01:35:24,200 --> 01:35:26,719
Speaker 2: This consultant has been doing it for three years.

1996
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Speaker 7: Now.

1997
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Speaker 2: You work that out, right, If you did that forty

1998
01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:33,439
Speaker 2: hours a week, you'd be earning twenty one thousand dollars

1999
01:35:33,439 --> 01:35:36,720
Speaker 2: a week. Pretty good money. You do that forty eight

2000
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:39,920
Speaker 2: weeks a year, you're earning a million dollars a year. Now,

2001
01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:42,080
Speaker 2: I'm very happy to tell you this consultant's only doing

2002
01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:45,720
Speaker 2: part time, so maybe only five hundred thousand dollars a year,

2003
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:48,120
Speaker 2: but anyway, it's a lot of money. Eight away from

2004
01:35:48,160 --> 01:35:49,920
Speaker 2: seven it's the.

2005
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:53,000
Speaker 1: Heather two for c Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

2006
01:35:53,240 --> 01:35:55,719
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2007
01:35:56,920 --> 01:35:58,880
Speaker 2: It's five away from seven news. Just out from the

2008
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:01,880
Speaker 2: US is that Trump says he's going to permanently pause

2009
01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:04,880
Speaker 2: migration from third world countries after the shooting of the

2010
01:36:05,000 --> 01:36:08,040
Speaker 2: National Guard because of course some person who came with

2011
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:10,240
Speaker 2: an Afghan national Now, there was a piece in the

2012
01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:14,000
Speaker 2: Herald today about Auckland sightseeing bus. I see this thing

2013
01:36:14,040 --> 01:36:16,559
Speaker 2: around the place and I often look at it and think,

2014
01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:19,320
Speaker 2: I wonder what you get when you jump on the

2015
01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:21,280
Speaker 2: sight seeing bus. Well I don't have to wonder about

2016
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:23,479
Speaker 2: it anymore because KEM Knight from the Herald has jumped

2017
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:26,080
Speaker 2: on the sight seeing bus and done a gigantic peace

2018
01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:28,280
Speaker 2: on it. And I think the most interesting thing, but

2019
01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:31,599
Speaker 2: this is exactly what you would expect, right, the sight

2020
01:36:31,680 --> 01:36:34,240
Speaker 2: seeing bus picks you up on Hobson Street in Auckland

2021
01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:37,680
Speaker 2: outside of strip club outside Hush hush. It's a nice

2022
01:36:37,680 --> 01:36:40,320
Speaker 2: strip club, but it's a strip club nonetheless. Then you

2023
01:36:40,439 --> 01:36:42,439
Speaker 2: go and you visit a bunch of places where construction

2024
01:36:42,600 --> 01:36:46,080
Speaker 2: is happening. You go to the museum, constructions happening. You

2025
01:36:46,160 --> 01:36:47,760
Speaker 2: go to the zoo, construction has happening. You go to

2026
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:50,479
Speaker 2: basti Endpoint, construction is happening, and then the entire city

2027
01:36:50,479 --> 01:36:54,360
Speaker 2: because the city rail link is underway, construction's happening. And

2028
01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:57,880
Speaker 2: then you go to New Market. You go so basically

2029
01:36:57,920 --> 01:36:59,679
Speaker 2: you go to strip club, then you go to New Market,

2030
01:36:59,720 --> 01:37:01,320
Speaker 2: then you go to Bastian Point, then you go to

2031
01:37:01,360 --> 01:37:04,160
Speaker 2: Mount Eden. You climbate, then you go to Mount Eden

2032
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Speaker 2: Prison and then you're on the motorway. So that's exciting,

2033
01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:11,080
Speaker 2: isn't that eighty dollars for two days? Ants?

2034
01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:13,439
Speaker 11: I don't know if the prison is exactly what I

2035
01:37:13,479 --> 01:37:16,240
Speaker 11: would like point to like the fifty things you must. Absolutely,

2036
01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:18,000
Speaker 11: I suppose it's historic, isn't it?

2037
01:37:18,120 --> 01:37:20,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, but what else would you go and look at?

2038
01:37:20,040 --> 01:37:20,639
Speaker 2: It's Auckland.

2039
01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:22,720
Speaker 11: Yeah, well, Mount I think last Gian Point has the

2040
01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:25,760
Speaker 11: nice like mausoleum of Michael Joseph Savage and stuff there,

2041
01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:28,160
Speaker 11: you know, like yeah, I'd send them there before prison.

2042
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:31,479
Speaker 11: Music is better by Rufus Dussoul to play us out tonight,

2043
01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:34,200
Speaker 11: the Aussie synthpop group playing in the first New Zealand

2044
01:37:34,200 --> 01:37:36,920
Speaker 11: show in quite a while tomorrow. They're playing at Western

2045
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:38,679
Speaker 11: Springs Stadium in Auckland.

2046
01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:43,439
Speaker 2: They're doing a piece right now on One News with

2047
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:47,360
Speaker 2: Simon Dello, like a like a historical stuff thing. I

2048
01:37:47,439 --> 01:37:49,599
Speaker 2: didn't realize he had a hideous goh toy for a while,

2049
01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:50,880
Speaker 2: a like that.

2050
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:52,960
Speaker 11: Was, yeah, I don't remember gohoi here that I thought.

2051
01:37:53,080 --> 01:37:55,200
Speaker 2: I thought TV's it was like the Navy or the

2052
01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:57,200
Speaker 2: army where they had control over your facial hair. But

2053
01:37:57,240 --> 01:37:57,760
Speaker 2: evidently not.

2054
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Speaker 11: I'm loving all the old Olympics coverage logos, TV two

2055
01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:02,400
Speaker 11: logos and stuff I'm seeing pop up as well.

2056
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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh well there is that's individual Simon. Yet well done, Simon.

2057
01:38:07,160 --> 01:38:09,519
Speaker 2: Also on shaving your face, that's an imp that's that

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Speaker 2: is an improvement. See you on Monday news Talks dB.

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