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Speaker 1: Police are appealing to the public after a man died

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Speaker 1: on Auckland's Southwestern Motorway overnight. The victim was struck by

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Speaker 1: three separate vehicles that all failed to stop. Police are

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Speaker 1: asking for drivers passing through the area between one thirty

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Speaker 1: am and two am to come forward, especially those with

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Speaker 1: dash cam footage. Lance Burdette is a former senior police

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Speaker 1: detective and he is with me now. Good evening, Lance,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for your time. What is your reaction

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Speaker 1: to three vehicles failing to stop?

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Speaker 2: It's quite unusual to me, to be frank, I have

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Speaker 2: been involved in the investigations where one vehicle is hit,

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Speaker 2: but not three. And basically I got it down to a

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Speaker 2: panic of those drivers that have that have struck some

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Speaker 2: when you don't expect it on the motorway, but when

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Speaker 2: it happens, we are bound to stop. However, in the

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Speaker 2: heat at the moment when fight or flight kicks in,

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Speaker 2: so flight will click and if we feel somebody's is

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Speaker 2: threatening us, but if we do something then fly it

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Speaker 2: tends to kicking and we panic and obviously run away.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's a pretty serious offense failing to stop,

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Speaker 1: isn't it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is, and people in the head of the

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Speaker 2: moment don't stop about to see the consequences. And again

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Speaker 2: going back to previous interviews I've done with with you know,

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Speaker 2: not so much here, but certainly with criminals, they don't

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Speaker 2: see the consequences of their actions. It's just the excitement

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Speaker 2: of the of the actual hunt, if you like, of

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Speaker 2: doing it, the challenge of doing it, so they don't

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Speaker 2: think about, you know, I could go to jail for this,

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Speaker 2: or or you know, oh goodness me, there's somebody you know,

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Speaker 2: it's a tragedy. Can only guess it's to remind us

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Speaker 2: of why the person was on the motorway. It's hasn't

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Speaker 2: been found, so it can't appear the persons come from

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Speaker 2: a breakdown of a vehicle.

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Speaker 1: Dance is three there? If the police know that three

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Speaker 1: vehicles hit the pedestrian, would they have video footage of

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Speaker 1: that from a camera or are they able to tell

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Speaker 1: that from the victim?

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Speaker 2: There would be a number of other forensics would be yet. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I'm victims down on the vehicle for a start, But

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Speaker 2: there are a massive cameras on all of the motorways

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Speaker 2: and they are high definition cameras, so I'm quite confident

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Speaker 2: that at least one or two or all three will

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Speaker 2: be soon discovered those vehicles, because yeah, it is good,

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Speaker 2: high quality footage they've got.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's good to hear people becoming more Brasian vehicles.

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Speaker 1: Do you think is our tolerance intolerance on the road troubling.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's a phenomenon. It's been global and it's been

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Speaker 2: going on for about two and a half years. It's

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Speaker 2: it comes to believe it, out of lockdown. Vehicles have

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Speaker 2: been used as weapons, as we can say in the police,

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Speaker 2: to assault police and you know Heaven provision. We've seen

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Speaker 2: it to kill police, driving vehicles into crowds at pedestrians.

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Speaker 2: It's it's what those phenomena that's it's going global, and

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm not sure how we're going to combat it.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a tougher penalty might go some way.

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Speaker 2: But as I say, in the heat of the moment,

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Speaker 2: when things happen, people don't stop to think about the

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Speaker 2: consequences of their actions. So I think just a bit

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Speaker 2: more understanding of when you're driving that you are driving

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Speaker 2: a vehicle and you've got a responsibility.

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Speaker 1: But a lot of people would stop lance you know,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people, even in shock and horror what

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Speaker 1: might have happened and what has a lot of.

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Speaker 2: People absolutely that's a freeze, right, So if it's something

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Speaker 2: that really horrible happens to us, we go into freeze

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Speaker 2: and we will stop. But if we have some sort

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Speaker 2: of again, I can only go off the work I

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Speaker 2: do now. And also people I've interviewed, if it's absolute

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Speaker 2: shock and horror, we will stop, and the brain basically

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Speaker 2: shuts down and says, I don't know, just stop. And

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Speaker 2: that's that freeze part that we don't talk about often.

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Speaker 2: But if they're in some sort of cognizance of I've

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Speaker 2: had a person, what's going to happen to me? I

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Speaker 2: don't know? Flee? And again, how are apart with these

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Speaker 2: vehicles where they all together? But it's a horrific thing

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Speaker 2: to think that you wouldn't stop. I can't understand it myself,

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Speaker 2: but I'm only trying to explain this best I can.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that because I think many of us are

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Speaker 1: absolutely appalled by this news, and of course our thoughts

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Speaker 1: with the victim's family and friends and things. I think

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Speaker 1: a lot of us have been horrified by this story.

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Speaker 1: So thank you Lance for trying to put it into

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Speaker 1: some perspective for us. Lance Burdette is a former senior

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Speaker 1: police detective. Thank you very much for your text as well.

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Speaker 1: Someone has suggested it could be a truck and trailer

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Speaker 1: that made it appear like three separate vehicles. Another person said,

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Speaker 1: I think I would know if I hit something on

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Speaker 1: the road with my car. I think the person should

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Speaker 1: have contacted the police if they did it or not

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Speaker 1: the person was hit by three vehicles. If the driver

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Speaker 1: was on the motorway at that time of the morning,

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Speaker 1: then you should ring in because you were in the

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Speaker 1: area and chances are that it wasn't even you. You know,

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Speaker 1: assist the police do the right thing. Thank you for

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