1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: Vincent mcavanie is our UK correspondent, Vincent good morning, Good afternoon. 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: Why is Kios Starmer so prickly about Elon Musk saying 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: that civil war is inevitable? Well, what we've seen on 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: social media, particularly on x formerly Twitter, is a lot 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: of unverified video flying about, but also a lot of 6 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: far right accounts who have been trying to encourage people 7 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: to take to the streets to conduct this violent thuggery 8 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: that has been going on across the UK, and Starma 9 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: obviously is trying to get a grip on this. He's 10 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: a new prime minister. Elon Musk has been reacting though 11 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: to directly to accounts, one in particular europe Invasion, which 12 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: is a far right European website that spreads disinformation very 13 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: clearly does so along as some other far right accounts, 14 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: and he also posted a comment saying that civil war 15 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: is inevitable under a video of violent rights in Liverpool. Now, 16 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: understandably Kiirs Starmer is not happy with this kind of commentary. 17 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: We are far from civil war in this country, to 18 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: be fair to Kiirstarma, but as spokesperson for the Prime 19 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: Minister said that the violence had come from a small 20 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: minority of people who do not speak for Britain, and 21 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: the Prime Minister did not share the sentiments of the billionaire. 22 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: So this is I think something we're going to see 23 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: in the next few days. Actually, this might be sort 24 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: of Elon must trying to pick a fight before he 25 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: knows one is coming, because we're likely to have the 26 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: heads of social media companies, whether it's Twitter, whether it's Meta, 27 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: being hauled into Downing Street to be asked about what 28 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: they're doing, because it is a crime in this country 29 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: to incite racial hatred, both online and in person, and 30 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: so I think they're going to be asked about how 31 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: they've operated in the last week since this tragedy in Southport. 32 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: Are you guys expecting it to continue for another day? Well, 33 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: we had had a quiet a day on Monday, but 34 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: overnight there has been rioting or sort of this kind 35 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: of violence again in Plymouth that's spread there for the 36 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: first time, and then it's also been taking place in 37 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: Belfast and Darlington. The intelligence the police had was that 38 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: there was set to be a spike on Wednesday, but 39 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: we will see. What is starting to happen now is 40 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: people have been in court for the first time making 41 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: their first appearance in magistrates court. Some of them have 42 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 1: been slightly shocked that they are not being granted any 43 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 1: form of bail, that they are having to be remanded 44 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: in custody. And I think maybe if word gets out 45 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 1: that not only are people being remanded in custody until 46 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: hearings until trials, which in this country have a huge 47 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: backlog because of what's going on in our justice system, 48 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: and they're also looking at facing the toughest of sentencings 49 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: because that's what's happened recently to climate protesters. That just 50 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: stop oil people getting maximum prescribed sentences. And I think 51 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: that is the message coming out from the government that 52 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 1: they want to see as much as possible tough sentencing. Listen, 53 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: I see that the government with you guys, has told 54 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: the citizens to leave lib On. How many of them 55 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: are there, Yeah, I mean there is a couple a 56 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: couple of hundreds of British citizens we think in Lebanon, 57 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: and that is the word from the UK government. That 58 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: is what others have said now the US as well Ireland, 59 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: all in anticipation of potentially a widening conflict between Israel 60 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: and Hesbala and Iran. We know back in April Iran struck, 61 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: but the US and a coalition of the UK, France 62 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: and others managed to sort of effectively thwart entire attack. 63 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: The US, behind the scenes diplomatically, is trying to rebuild 64 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: that coalition somewhat and as moving more defense assets into 65 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: the region. But it does seem like we might not 66 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: get the same kind of warnings that we got of 67 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: that strike from Iran and from sources, and so the 68 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: UK sort of following others now and saying that really, 69 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: if you don't need to be in that country, it's 70 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: time to get out because the situation is too unpredictable. 71 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: What do you make this news? It's pretty good actually, 72 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: it's appeared in West London. It's sort of the end 73 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: of a property. He seems to quite like doing things 74 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,839 Speaker 1: at the moment, a sort of gable ends of properties 75 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 1: that's been as modus recently. I think they're slightly harder 76 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 1: to remove perhaps, And so there is a sort of 77 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: support struck that juts out from the building somewhat, and 78 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: then on top of it he has posted he's sort 79 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: of done his spray painting of what looks to be 80 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: a sort of a billy goat, you know, teetering on 81 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,239 Speaker 1: it with some rocks falling off, and he'd also pointed 82 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: a CCTV camera which was there. He pointed it up 83 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: towards the goat. We understand that's now been pointed back 84 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: down to the owner as to where it needs to 85 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: point at. But yeah, it's pretty good. It's by q 86 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: Bridge in Richmond, and you know, he's sort of done 87 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: a lot of political stuff recently, but this just seems 88 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: to be sort of a quite a classic thanks he 89 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: which is just sort of a little bit of an 90 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: animal humor. Vincent's so good to talk to. You really 91 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: appreciate about. That's Vincent Megavinny, our UK correspondents this evening. 92 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 93 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 1: news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 94 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio