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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Resident build Up podcast with Peter

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Speaker 1: wolf Camp from US Talk said be doing other house

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Speaker 1: Builder with Peter wolf Camp and light full Solar get

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Speaker 3: Yeah surecra so love goodie bird. This ride is so

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Speaker 4: Fallen of us, Well, very good morning and welcome along

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Speaker 4: to the Resident Builder on Sunday. You're with me Peak

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Speaker 4: wolf Camp right through till nine o'clock this morning, and

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Speaker 4: it's an opportunity for us to talk all things building

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Speaker 4: and construction. So if you have a project that's underway

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Speaker 4: that might not be quite going as you might have

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Speaker 4: up the wall, discovered that well, things are not quite

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Speaker 4: as expected inside there, and you'd like to investigate why

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Speaker 4: the framing might be a rotten or where the source

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Speaker 4: of that leak has come from. Then we can talk

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Speaker 4: about all things building and construction. It's been a fairly

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Speaker 4: topical week, or it's building in particular. Housing has been

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Speaker 4: a really topical issue politically this week. The announcement by

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Speaker 4: Chris Bishop earlier in the week to say, hey, look,

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Speaker 4: we're going to really open up the planning rules around

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Speaker 4: what you can build and where you can build it,

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Speaker 4: the density of housing, the size, the minimum standards, whether

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Speaker 4: or not they need a balcony or not. And driving

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Speaker 4: in I was listening to the replay of the interview

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Speaker 4: with Chris Luxon and Carrie Woodham here at Newstalks ed

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Speaker 4: B talking about it as well, and I have to say,

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Speaker 4: you know what struck me is the concision in which

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Speaker 4: he could explain why it is that we have house

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Speaker 4: prices where they are, or housing affordability rather where it

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Speaker 4: is in terms of constricting the amount of land it's

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Speaker 4: available for development, followed by the cost of building materials,

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Speaker 4: and I guess rules that make building smaller affordable homes possible. However,

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Speaker 4: there is something about when I was listening to Chris

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Speaker 4: able to build a twenty square meter apartment with no balcony, etcetera, etcetera.

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Speaker 4: And there's part of me that just goes gee, that

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Speaker 4: sounds like a recipe for a slum, doesn't it. And

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure that his response about well, it's better

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Speaker 4: genuine response on his part, but I think it ignores

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Speaker 4: a lot of other issues around why people have lack

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Speaker 4: of security in terms of housing. But we could talk

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Speaker 4: about that as well. But if you've got a practical

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Speaker 4: problem that you want solved, we can discuss that. Oh

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Speaker 4: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 4: The text machine is up and running. That's nine two

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Speaker 4: you'd like to send me an email, you are more

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Speaker 4: than welcome to do exactly that. It's Pete at newstalksb

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Speaker 4: dot co dot m Z. Job done this week, right,

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Speaker 4: And I this is I suppose an opportunity to talk

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Speaker 4: about something that's been a bit vexatious for people over

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Speaker 4: So there's a property that I look after that had

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Speaker 4: been almost healthy Homes compliant for a while, but deadlines

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Speaker 4: deadline in terms of healthy Homes compliance. And so we

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Speaker 4: little sixty square meter brick and tile, which over the years,

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Speaker 4: had accumulated old bits of timber, bits of rolls of metal,

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Speaker 4: out the vapor barrier, reinstalled any loose bits of insulation,

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Speaker 4: on of the work. So it's done. And what that

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Speaker 4: as tenants move in and out, you need to attach

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Speaker 4: a healthy Homes Compliance certificate to the tenancy agreement as well.

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Speaker 4: For those of you who are landlords, this is probably

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Speaker 4: who are listening to this, going, h that sounds interesting.

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Speaker 4: Not sure if I've done that, then maybe you should

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Speaker 4: go back and have a look at the current legislation

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Speaker 4: and if you're if you're a tenant and you're moving

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Speaker 4: into properties from now on, they should be now fully

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Speaker 4: healthy Homes compliant as of the first of July. So

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Speaker 4: something that we've talked about quite a bit is now

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Speaker 4: in fact in place eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

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Speaker 4: the number to call. Texts are off. This is interesting

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Speaker 4: and I'm more than happy to go political and have

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Speaker 4: a bit of a discussion. Pete. The government's new plan

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Speaker 4: is all about developers and their donors. It'll be slum villas,

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Speaker 4: disgraceful and no pushback from the right wing media. Like

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Speaker 4: News TALKSZB, this is your business, let's talk about it.

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Speaker 4: Give us a call, oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 1: Whether you're painting the ceiling, fixing the fence, or wondering

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Speaker 1: how to fix that hole in the wall, you give

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Speaker 1: Peter Wolf Cabin call on Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 1: The resident builder with light four solar, it flick the

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Speaker 1: switch to solar today, News Talks.

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Speaker 5: B the.

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Speaker 4: I'm just looking at the texts. Apparently the Prime Minister

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Speaker 4: is Christopher, not Chris, and in not saying Christopher, I'm

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Speaker 4: rude and lazy. Thank you for your text. Oh eight

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Speaker 4: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to

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Speaker 4: call if you have a question of a building nature,

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Speaker 4: we are here and ready to discuss it. So, like

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Speaker 4: I say, you know, a practical sort of undertaking this

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Speaker 4: so it is driven by legislation in the sense that

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Speaker 4: as one of the requirements that's now essential that you

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Speaker 4: can't not do this anymore is that there needs to

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Speaker 4: be a vapor barrier installed in an enclosed underfloor space

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Speaker 4: where it is practical to do so. So if if

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Speaker 4: if the subfloors is inaccessible or it's unsafe to go there,

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Speaker 4: then you don't need to. And if but where you can,

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Speaker 4: you must. If it's in closed, there's a I think

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Speaker 4: there's a part in the legislation that says if it's

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Speaker 4: particularly open as a subfloor area, then the requirement for

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Speaker 4: the ground. It's not on the underside of the suspended

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Speaker 4: moisture does evaporate, they reckon about I've heard as much

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Speaker 4: the ground and would sit in this underfloor space. Now,

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Speaker 4: given that this particular example, the space is surrounded by

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Speaker 4: of course, and this has always been that what irony

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Speaker 4: I guess if the Healthy Homes and legislation is that

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Speaker 4: obviously it only applies to rental properties. For our own

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Speaker 4: to worry about well, theoretically you should have proper spouting,

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Speaker 4: you'll have extraction, Ideally you'll have insulation. But as a

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Speaker 4: homeowner you can choose to live in a property without

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Speaker 4: any of those sorts of things. But obviously, as a

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Speaker 4: as a landlord, I've decided that I'm not going to

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Speaker 4: make my house compliant. Therefore it's going to sit empty,

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Speaker 4: and I'm going to go, hey, look, I'm just going

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Speaker 4: sixty percent of market rate. You can't opt out of

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Speaker 4: two willing people. I eight one hundred eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 4: I don't have any guests booked at all today on

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Speaker 4: the show. I really enjoyed spending time with Marlin from

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Speaker 4: Life Force Solar last week, just going back and kind

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Speaker 4: of looking over the whole solar install, the processes, a

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Speaker 4: looking at some of the practicalities of how do you

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Speaker 4: okay if you can put the panels up, how do

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Speaker 4: you get the power to the distribution board, What do

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Speaker 4: need to inform as in the line's companies, your electricity

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Speaker 4: So it was good to go through and look at

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Speaker 4: sort of a step by step install for a solo

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Speaker 4: if you were looking at that. But today on the program,

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Speaker 4: it is all up to you. So the lines are open.

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Speaker 4: The number to call eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Another

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Speaker 4: text that's come through. Is there a rule of thumb

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Speaker 4: ratio for the number of someone said guttering down pipes

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Speaker 4: to roof size? There is, and it's I thought it

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Speaker 4: was about fifty square meters. I think it's actually about

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Speaker 4: sixty square meters of roof per one eighty mill down pipe. So,

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Speaker 4: for example, if you had slightly bigger stand than standard spouting,

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Speaker 4: so standard spouting is about one hundred and twenty five

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Speaker 1: Or Squeaky Floor. Get the right advice from Peter Wolfcare,

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Speaker 4: It be your news, stalks be It is twenty six

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Speaker 6: How are you.

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Speaker 7: I'm still in the months of ninety three.

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Speaker 4: Oh it's fabulous. Oh good on you, good on you.

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Speaker 4: It's chili this morning, so why not stay in bed

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Speaker 7: Oh no, Climatically, I can't live where my family live.

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Speaker 7: when they were going to put the plumbing in, it

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Speaker 7: one insurance company does not fight mother, so why would

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Speaker 7: I have insurance? But that's not the problem. The problem

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Speaker 7: is I've got to do something about the carpets. And

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Speaker 7: I'm not going to live forever. But my father's sister

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Speaker 4: I guess you've got some time seeing that. The insurance

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Speaker 7: No, the tree can't be removed. It's I found out

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Speaker 7: about that. I'm a sandwich between an oak tree on

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Speaker 7: so those are protected trees and I can't do anything

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Speaker 4: It does seem crazy, doesn't it leone that you know?

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Speaker 4: I mean, and I'm all for protecting trees, but at

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Speaker 4: you know, to be blunt. It's not like you can't

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Speaker 7: No, there were two trees there, and my husband passed

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Speaker 7: now that the drivers all sunk and there was they

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Speaker 7: the tree out. And you're you could have gone right

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Speaker 4: Hollow, so that they know that was it was, you know,

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Speaker 4: What do you need to get done?

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Speaker 7: I have no idea?

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Speaker 6: Okay completely, yeah.

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Speaker 7: Okay, I've had a many stroke. It's here maybefore I

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Speaker 7: had the Manus stroke, I would talk sense to you.

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Speaker 4: You're doing very well. You're doing very well. I wonder

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Speaker 4: whether what what could be useful and look to be fair,

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Speaker 4: advocate for you. Right, so take over with you, dealing

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Speaker 4: whereabouts you in the country, leone, Uh, how wrong? Tow wrong? Okay, Well, look,

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Speaker 4: there's bound to be some good people there. I just

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Speaker 7: I am a member of Great Power, Well look, I actually.

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Speaker 4: Think that giving them a call and there might be

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Speaker 7: Yes, and I have a nice and why he is

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Speaker 7: computer savvy, yes, computer savvy, yes, and she does things

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Speaker 4: Look, that's a perfect combination. That's a perfect combination. I

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 7: Well, I have a vehicle in the garage that I

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Speaker 4: How so beautiful that.

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Speaker 4: Please let us please, that's fantastic, Leoni. Please let us

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Speaker 4: Good luck with all of that, leone. If you would

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Speaker 4: It's you know, for one, it's a eucalyptus, it's not

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Speaker 4: the end of the world. No, it's not not. You

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Speaker 4: You don't have to It doesn't take two years to

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Speaker 4: make a decision on that. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten

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Speaker 4: made for interesting reading. It's a good article. Oh eight

432
00:26:04,975 --> 00:26:07,575
Speaker 4: hundred and eighty ten eighty. You've got a question like leone,

433
00:26:07,935 --> 00:26:09,815
Speaker 4: or if you've got a general comment that you want

434
00:26:09,855 --> 00:26:12,295
Speaker 4: to make about building and construction, will take your call

435
00:26:12,415 --> 00:26:15,015
Speaker 4: right now. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

436
00:26:15,095 --> 00:26:15,895
Speaker 4: the number to call.

437
00:26:18,495 --> 00:26:22,455
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438
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439
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440
00:26:30,735 --> 00:26:32,815
Speaker 4: Just looking at this. A couple of texts have come through.

441
00:26:32,935 --> 00:26:35,455
Speaker 4: Hey Pete the healthy homes date. Let me see where

442
00:26:35,455 --> 00:26:36,535
Speaker 4: does that come through.

443
00:26:44,615 --> 00:26:45,215
Speaker 9: I'm just looking.

444
00:26:45,815 --> 00:26:50,455
Speaker 4: This is the discussion around in terms of rental properties, right.

445
00:26:50,495 --> 00:26:54,175
Speaker 4: The healthy Homes of the station has been in discussion,

446
00:26:54,415 --> 00:26:57,855
Speaker 4: well more than in discussion for since about twenty nineteen.

447
00:26:58,055 --> 00:27:00,415
Speaker 4: I think it first came out and then it said

448
00:27:00,495 --> 00:27:02,135
Speaker 4: this is what the rules are going to be, and

449
00:27:02,255 --> 00:27:08,375
Speaker 4: you have this long to comply and so my reading

450
00:27:08,455 --> 00:27:12,735
Speaker 4: of it was that any tenancy for the last year

451
00:27:12,815 --> 00:27:16,855
Speaker 4: in a bit, any new tenancy needed to have a

452
00:27:17,775 --> 00:27:22,895
Speaker 4: fully compliant house or fully compliant rental unit, so sitting tenants.

453
00:27:23,095 --> 00:27:25,255
Speaker 4: So let's say, and there are lots of landlords that

454
00:27:25,375 --> 00:27:28,735
Speaker 4: have tenants that stay for many, many years, so there's

455
00:27:28,815 --> 00:27:31,895
Speaker 4: not a renewal of a tenancy agreement. It just rolls over,

456
00:27:32,055 --> 00:27:35,495
Speaker 4: rolls over. And so if you're a landlord that has

457
00:27:35,535 --> 00:27:38,335
Speaker 4: a property with a sitting tenant, you didn't need to

458
00:27:38,455 --> 00:27:42,295
Speaker 4: comply with the legislation until a certain date or until

459
00:27:43,135 --> 00:27:45,735
Speaker 4: that tenant might move out and a new tenancy agreement

460
00:27:45,775 --> 00:27:51,215
Speaker 4: with a new tenant was in place. So John has

461
00:27:51,255 --> 00:27:53,575
Speaker 4: just text men said, actually, the Healthy Homes final date

462
00:27:53,695 --> 00:27:58,655
Speaker 4: is the first of July twenty twenty five. Interestingly enough,

463
00:27:58,695 --> 00:28:00,615
Speaker 4: he then goes on to say, I have given my

464
00:28:00,775 --> 00:28:03,495
Speaker 4: tenants notice that they will have to leave by then.

465
00:28:03,615 --> 00:28:06,535
Speaker 4: I will then leave the flats empty till I sell them.

466
00:28:08,535 --> 00:28:12,335
Speaker 4: And that goes to my point earlier about situations like

467
00:28:12,415 --> 00:28:15,375
Speaker 4: this where let's say a landlord has a property which,

468
00:28:15,455 --> 00:28:18,535
Speaker 4: for whatever reason they've decided they're not going to upgrade

469
00:28:18,895 --> 00:28:24,175
Speaker 4: to healthy home standards. They can't opt out of legislation.

470
00:28:24,335 --> 00:28:26,895
Speaker 4: So in this case, here it seems that John is

471
00:28:27,015 --> 00:28:30,575
Speaker 4: well within his rights to go. Actually, I've decided I can't.

472
00:28:30,975 --> 00:28:34,935
Speaker 4: I don't want to, for whatever number of reasons, upgrade

473
00:28:35,015 --> 00:28:38,615
Speaker 4: my property to healthy home standards. So essentially, I'm going

474
00:28:38,655 --> 00:28:39,775
Speaker 4: to give you notice.

475
00:28:39,655 --> 00:28:39,855
Speaker 1: I e.

476
00:28:40,055 --> 00:28:42,735
Speaker 4: I'm going to evict you on that day and leave

477
00:28:42,855 --> 00:28:45,575
Speaker 4: the property empty. I would like to challenge you, John,

478
00:28:45,655 --> 00:28:49,935
Speaker 4: and go. You know, realistically, how much work is they're

479
00:28:50,015 --> 00:28:53,255
Speaker 4: involved in getting that property up to healthy homes standards?

480
00:28:54,335 --> 00:28:56,655
Speaker 4: And yeah, in some cases, I mean, if you had

481
00:28:56,695 --> 00:28:59,855
Speaker 4: a property that had that was in genuinely poor condition,

482
00:29:00,095 --> 00:29:03,095
Speaker 4: let's say, and it had poor spouting, it didn't have

483
00:29:03,135 --> 00:29:05,695
Speaker 4: any insulation, it didn't have a fixed form of heating,

484
00:29:06,415 --> 00:29:08,815
Speaker 4: didn't have a vapor barrier if it did require one,

485
00:29:09,015 --> 00:29:12,815
Speaker 4: didn't have any extraction anywhere in the building. Doing all

486
00:29:12,895 --> 00:29:16,255
Speaker 4: of those things would be a significant cost, Like it

487
00:29:16,295 --> 00:29:20,695
Speaker 4: would be ten to twenty thousand dollars I would imagine to.

488
00:29:20,735 --> 00:29:21,215
Speaker 10: Do all of that.

489
00:29:21,855 --> 00:29:25,695
Speaker 4: However, most houses have most of those things. So maybe

490
00:29:25,735 --> 00:29:27,735
Speaker 4: there's some insulation that might need a bit of a

491
00:29:27,815 --> 00:29:30,175
Speaker 4: top up, Maybe there is a fixed form of heating

492
00:29:30,335 --> 00:29:32,855
Speaker 4: that's already there. Maybe you've already got arrange hood. Maybe

493
00:29:32,855 --> 00:29:35,775
Speaker 4: you've already got extraction in the bathroom, in which case

494
00:29:36,015 --> 00:29:38,775
Speaker 4: getting those last little bits and pieces sorted to get

495
00:29:38,815 --> 00:29:42,775
Speaker 4: it to healthy homes compliance surely isn't that much of

496
00:29:42,855 --> 00:29:47,055
Speaker 4: a cost, but maybe it is, and that's where you're

497
00:29:47,095 --> 00:29:49,535
Speaker 4: making your decision on. Much appreciated. Thanks for your text,

498
00:29:49,615 --> 00:29:51,055
Speaker 4: John oh w eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

499
00:29:51,095 --> 00:29:53,175
Speaker 4: Someone else we were talking with Leoni just before the

500
00:29:53,215 --> 00:29:57,535
Speaker 4: break around this the problem with this tree. Someone has

501
00:29:57,615 --> 00:29:59,575
Speaker 4: text through. Hey, I thought you could do with tree

502
00:30:00,455 --> 00:30:03,095
Speaker 4: what sorry? I thought you could do what you want

503
00:30:03,175 --> 00:30:05,775
Speaker 4: with trees on your property. Dunedin Council told me the

504
00:30:05,855 --> 00:30:09,375
Speaker 4: same problem. Not mine, although I did have a couple

505
00:30:09,415 --> 00:30:11,335
Speaker 4: of silver birchers that were of poor so I cut

506
00:30:11,375 --> 00:30:16,255
Speaker 4: them down or I could prune them. However, see, blanket

507
00:30:16,335 --> 00:30:19,855
Speaker 4: tree protection is gone, I'm pretty sure for almost every

508
00:30:20,775 --> 00:30:25,335
Speaker 4: council across the country. So unless a tree is actually

509
00:30:25,455 --> 00:30:29,375
Speaker 4: specifically noted on a council file as being protected, it

510
00:30:29,535 --> 00:30:31,975
Speaker 4: is no longer. It no longer had that blanket protection.

511
00:30:32,055 --> 00:30:34,175
Speaker 4: And the old protection used to be if it was

512
00:30:34,215 --> 00:30:36,335
Speaker 4: a native tree over six meters tall, and I think

513
00:30:36,375 --> 00:30:39,775
Speaker 4: if it was a non native tree over about nine

514
00:30:39,815 --> 00:30:42,535
Speaker 4: meters tall, or it had a certain girth at the

515
00:30:42,655 --> 00:30:45,495
Speaker 4: trunk at a I think it was nine hundred millimeters

516
00:30:45,535 --> 00:30:48,415
Speaker 4: above the ground. Then they all had blanket protection and

517
00:30:48,495 --> 00:30:50,855
Speaker 4: that got removed some time ago. And to be fair,

518
00:30:50,935 --> 00:30:52,655
Speaker 4: you kind of when that came in you sort of went, oh,

519
00:30:52,655 --> 00:30:55,975
Speaker 4: I can imagine people will be out with chainsaws knocking

520
00:30:56,015 --> 00:30:59,215
Speaker 4: down trees left, right and center. Hasn't actually been the case.

521
00:31:00,055 --> 00:31:03,095
Speaker 4: It's not like our cities are denuded of trees right now,

522
00:31:03,135 --> 00:31:07,255
Speaker 4: which is good. So I think in case, you know,

523
00:31:07,495 --> 00:31:10,335
Speaker 4: having a tree, unless it's a tree on the council reserve.

524
00:31:10,415 --> 00:31:13,095
Speaker 4: But then I would have said, well, under property law,

525
00:31:13,175 --> 00:31:15,215
Speaker 4: you could get counsel to remove the tree because it

526
00:31:15,335 --> 00:31:18,295
Speaker 4: is causing a nuisance to your own property. But that's

527
00:31:18,295 --> 00:31:20,335
Speaker 4: where she might need someone to sort of walk alongside

528
00:31:20,415 --> 00:31:23,015
Speaker 4: her and deal with this. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty

529
00:31:23,135 --> 00:31:24,575
Speaker 4: is the number to call. If you've got a comment

530
00:31:24,855 --> 00:31:28,735
Speaker 4: about building, about practicality around getting stuff done, or a

531
00:31:28,815 --> 00:31:33,135
Speaker 4: project perhaps that you've you've got into but it might

532
00:31:33,335 --> 00:31:35,535
Speaker 4: not be going that well, then you can call eight

533
00:31:35,655 --> 00:31:38,735
Speaker 4: hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call. A

534
00:31:38,815 --> 00:31:41,735
Speaker 4: Couple of other texts just with regard to Leone's situation,

535
00:31:43,175 --> 00:31:45,935
Speaker 4: she needs to get a lawyer involved. Pete, like I said,

536
00:31:46,015 --> 00:31:49,975
Speaker 4: she goes down the road of like I said, goes

537
00:31:50,015 --> 00:31:52,975
Speaker 4: down the road two houses, oh down the road from

538
00:31:53,055 --> 00:31:57,815
Speaker 4: this particular texture, two houses destroyed by plane trees, plane

539
00:31:57,855 --> 00:32:03,215
Speaker 4: trees or flame trees, and the council were interested once

540
00:32:03,295 --> 00:32:07,135
Speaker 4: the lawyers got involved under section three three three, so

541
00:32:07,295 --> 00:32:09,575
Speaker 4: triple three. I'll have a look at what section triple

542
00:32:09,615 --> 00:32:13,855
Speaker 4: three actually is in the insurer and other text has

543
00:32:13,935 --> 00:32:17,495
Speaker 4: suggested the insurer one sure sort of slow creep councilor

544
00:32:17,575 --> 00:32:20,815
Speaker 4: is being sued on Herald Island and have cut out

545
00:32:20,815 --> 00:32:23,415
Speaker 4: a couple of plane trees that have destroyed two houses.

546
00:32:23,495 --> 00:32:26,935
Speaker 4: It's on council land in extremely difficult. It's on council

547
00:32:27,015 --> 00:32:29,455
Speaker 4: and extremely difficult to deal with. This is that thing around,

548
00:32:29,735 --> 00:32:32,575
Speaker 4: you know, going making what seems like a reasonable request

549
00:32:32,735 --> 00:32:36,375
Speaker 4: to council for some action and finding that the decision

550
00:32:36,455 --> 00:32:40,215
Speaker 4: making process is long and tortuous, and in the meantime

551
00:32:40,415 --> 00:32:43,135
Speaker 4: damage can occur, which is exactly what happened in Meadowbank

552
00:32:43,855 --> 00:32:46,695
Speaker 4: within the last couple of months eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

553
00:32:46,695 --> 00:32:50,375
Speaker 4: If you've got a question the number to call is

554
00:32:50,655 --> 00:32:52,855
Speaker 4: eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Loving your text as well,

555
00:32:52,935 --> 00:32:55,575
Speaker 4: but your calls are better eight hundred eighty ten eighty

556
00:32:55,735 --> 00:32:59,615
Speaker 4: on the for the calls trees causing damage to houses

557
00:32:59,615 --> 00:33:02,055
Speaker 4: plane trees, tell that to the Augland Council for those

558
00:33:02,135 --> 00:33:06,775
Speaker 4: Franklin Road properties. Funny, I my brother lives not that street,

559
00:33:06,815 --> 00:33:10,335
Speaker 4: but in that area, and the plane trees are delightful

560
00:33:10,495 --> 00:33:12,495
Speaker 4: until they start. And I was out in Mount Eden

561
00:33:12,535 --> 00:33:15,055
Speaker 4: the other day. Until you're out sort of somewhere where

562
00:33:15,615 --> 00:33:18,255
Speaker 4: they all of the leaves drop as they do in autumn,

563
00:33:18,295 --> 00:33:20,775
Speaker 4: and then there's massive piles and the gutters. And I

564
00:33:20,855 --> 00:33:22,535
Speaker 4: was actually, I was driving around the other day and

565
00:33:22,575 --> 00:33:26,335
Speaker 4: I thought, maybe, given that it seems like we enjoy

566
00:33:26,415 --> 00:33:29,655
Speaker 4: having the trees, but we don't enjoy cleaning up, should

567
00:33:29,695 --> 00:33:34,175
Speaker 4: all roadside trees be removed to allow drainage to be

568
00:33:34,415 --> 00:33:39,295
Speaker 4: more functional? Because if there's a foot of decaying leaves

569
00:33:39,375 --> 00:33:42,335
Speaker 4: in the gutter and no, none of that stormwater can

570
00:33:42,415 --> 00:33:46,015
Speaker 4: reach the catch pit because the grate is completely blocked

571
00:33:46,055 --> 00:33:49,655
Speaker 4: by tree leaves, and hey, surprise, surprise, it happens every year.

572
00:33:52,175 --> 00:33:57,575
Speaker 4: Do we remove trees from council burms to help with drainage. Oh,

573
00:33:57,615 --> 00:33:59,415
Speaker 4: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty, then number to call,

574
00:33:59,495 --> 00:34:01,095
Speaker 4: just putting it out there, Frank, good morning to you.

575
00:34:02,175 --> 00:34:03,175
Speaker 10: Oh, good morning, Pete.

576
00:34:03,375 --> 00:34:04,615
Speaker 11: Yes, just anything a listen.

577
00:34:04,615 --> 00:34:06,975
Speaker 10: Don't get quite quite a fright when you said this

578
00:34:07,175 --> 00:34:08,015
Speaker 10: new vapor thing.

579
00:34:08,095 --> 00:34:12,175
Speaker 4: Look, it's not new, to be fair, it's not new.

580
00:34:12,255 --> 00:34:15,735
Speaker 10: Yeah, but okay, yeah, okays. But as a landlord, yeah,

581
00:34:15,815 --> 00:34:17,935
Speaker 10: those sort of things, how the hell do you keep

582
00:34:18,015 --> 00:34:20,015
Speaker 10: up on that? But other than listening to people like

583
00:34:20,135 --> 00:34:25,175
Speaker 10: you kaying as kying or all their houses the same.

584
00:34:25,215 --> 00:34:28,415
Speaker 4: No, yes, the hell do we have to do it?

585
00:34:28,695 --> 00:34:31,175
Speaker 4: And to be fair, that's been you know, And I

586
00:34:31,255 --> 00:34:33,935
Speaker 4: think anyone who's interested in this has wondered about this

587
00:34:34,095 --> 00:34:38,135
Speaker 4: for the last five years almost So this legislation all

588
00:34:38,415 --> 00:34:42,415
Speaker 4: started in about twenty nineteen. So if as a landlord,

589
00:34:42,495 --> 00:34:45,735
Speaker 4: you haven't heard about it, then I'm a little bit surprised,

590
00:34:45,815 --> 00:34:48,775
Speaker 4: quite genuinely. But at the same time, when all of

591
00:34:48,895 --> 00:34:53,095
Speaker 4: the dates were set, private landlords had to upgrade their

592
00:34:53,135 --> 00:34:57,575
Speaker 4: properties well in advance of the state housing right. So,

593
00:34:59,015 --> 00:35:01,535
Speaker 4: and I think a number of people who you know,

594
00:35:01,655 --> 00:35:03,735
Speaker 4: have commentated on this have said, well, how is it

595
00:35:03,815 --> 00:35:06,775
Speaker 4: that the government has so much more time to bring

596
00:35:06,895 --> 00:35:12,055
Speaker 4: up their properties to compliance than private landlords do. It

597
00:35:12,175 --> 00:35:14,575
Speaker 4: puts them at a a well, does it put them

598
00:35:14,615 --> 00:35:17,895
Speaker 4: at an unfair advantage not really competing for the same people,

599
00:35:18,015 --> 00:35:20,495
Speaker 4: but yeah, maybe it does. But yeah, either way, they

600
00:35:21,495 --> 00:35:24,855
Speaker 4: government does have and has given itself longer to comply

601
00:35:24,975 --> 00:35:27,855
Speaker 4: with Healthy Homes legislation than a private landlord.

602
00:35:28,735 --> 00:35:33,255
Speaker 10: Yeah, but I understand that. But surely Kangaura that those

603
00:35:33,375 --> 00:35:37,295
Speaker 10: houses need to been upgraded for the betterment of the tenants,

604
00:35:37,935 --> 00:35:40,255
Speaker 10: because we look for tenants ourselves.

605
00:35:40,615 --> 00:35:43,695
Speaker 4: Yeah, and look again, to be fair, I know that

606
00:35:43,975 --> 00:35:48,975
Speaker 4: KO has has got a real, pretty significant retro fit

607
00:35:49,135 --> 00:35:52,335
Speaker 4: and upgrade program which is underway now and has been

608
00:35:52,415 --> 00:35:55,255
Speaker 4: for a number of years. And I guess they're also

609
00:35:55,375 --> 00:35:57,855
Speaker 4: looking at a large part of their housing stock that's

610
00:35:58,295 --> 00:36:01,575
Speaker 4: no longer suitable, either because it doesn't have the density

611
00:36:01,895 --> 00:36:05,735
Speaker 4: or it's the wrong typography typology rather in the sense

612
00:36:05,775 --> 00:36:09,935
Speaker 4: that they've done their analysis now. And while traditionally state

613
00:36:10,015 --> 00:36:13,295
Speaker 4: homes have been three betties, in fact you look at

614
00:36:13,455 --> 00:36:16,455
Speaker 4: what is needed for that housing stock, In fact, it's

615
00:36:16,495 --> 00:36:19,215
Speaker 4: lots of either one or two bedroom places or lots

616
00:36:19,255 --> 00:36:22,255
Speaker 4: of four and five bedroom places. Three betties are kind

617
00:36:22,295 --> 00:36:28,175
Speaker 4: of an inefficient way of providing a service to your tenants.

618
00:36:28,695 --> 00:36:30,615
Speaker 4: So you know that's where you're seeing.

619
00:36:32,375 --> 00:36:36,135
Speaker 10: That doesn't change, That does not change the system that

620
00:36:36,255 --> 00:36:39,135
Speaker 10: they've got. If the government are going to legislate for

621
00:36:40,055 --> 00:36:42,935
Speaker 10: all the rest of ordinary to do stuff, then so

622
00:36:43,135 --> 00:36:44,655
Speaker 10: they should be compliant as well.

623
00:36:46,055 --> 00:36:48,735
Speaker 4: Part of me doesn't describe I guess I'm just looking

624
00:36:48,735 --> 00:36:50,775
Speaker 4: at it from a practical point of view, going I

625
00:36:50,855 --> 00:36:54,495
Speaker 4: think they have, what have they got almost seventy thousand

626
00:36:54,535 --> 00:36:56,815
Speaker 4: rental properties right now. A bunch of those will be

627
00:36:56,935 --> 00:37:01,295
Speaker 4: new because they've been building new properties recently. A bunch

628
00:37:01,375 --> 00:37:04,295
Speaker 4: of them are ones that they don't intend to upgrade

629
00:37:04,495 --> 00:37:10,455
Speaker 4: because they will develop those areas. And I know that

630
00:37:10,535 --> 00:37:12,495
Speaker 4: this can be a bit controversial as well. There's been

631
00:37:12,695 --> 00:37:16,695
Speaker 4: areas of Glenniness and parts of Henderson that sort of thing,

632
00:37:16,735 --> 00:37:20,535
Speaker 4: where whole streets of former state houses. The houses have

633
00:37:20,655 --> 00:37:23,215
Speaker 4: been removed and there'll be intensification there, and I actually

634
00:37:23,215 --> 00:37:26,255
Speaker 4: think that that's good long term planning. But in the meantime,

635
00:37:26,575 --> 00:37:29,855
Speaker 4: they've opted not to have those houses occupied because they

636
00:37:29,895 --> 00:37:32,655
Speaker 4: don't meet healthy home standards. And I would have gone, hey,

637
00:37:32,735 --> 00:37:35,615
Speaker 4: look again to Christiship's point the other day where his

638
00:37:35,815 --> 00:37:40,215
Speaker 4: response to let developers build a twenty square meter apartment

639
00:37:40,495 --> 00:37:42,775
Speaker 4: if that's what people want, because that's better than living

640
00:37:42,815 --> 00:37:45,375
Speaker 4: in a car. I would have thought, well, actually taking

641
00:37:45,415 --> 00:37:48,255
Speaker 4: a house that might not be particularly good, but you

642
00:37:48,415 --> 00:37:51,855
Speaker 4: keep it empty, or a landlord chooses not to upgrade

643
00:37:51,855 --> 00:37:54,215
Speaker 4: a property again, that property would still be better than

644
00:37:54,215 --> 00:37:55,855
Speaker 4: a car as well. So why don't we free up

645
00:37:55,895 --> 00:38:00,055
Speaker 4: that part of the legislation tricky area? Frank can I

646
00:38:00,135 --> 00:38:07,055
Speaker 4: ask are you? Are you a landlord yourself? Yeah, okay, I've.

647
00:38:07,575 --> 00:38:09,215
Speaker 10: Got one with an older house from one of the

648
00:38:09,255 --> 00:38:10,895
Speaker 10: concrete floor and I just.

649
00:38:10,935 --> 00:38:14,255
Speaker 4: Saw, you know, well, no concrete floor. There's no requirement

650
00:38:14,295 --> 00:38:17,575
Speaker 4: to do anything right, so you know, it's a practical thing.

651
00:38:18,535 --> 00:38:20,775
Speaker 10: I agree with that. But and I'll make the effort

652
00:38:20,815 --> 00:38:24,015
Speaker 10: to make sure that it's done starting tomorrow. But yeah,

653
00:38:25,615 --> 00:38:27,615
Speaker 10: but it just greats a bit when you know that

654
00:38:28,135 --> 00:38:31,295
Speaker 10: the taxes are being used by the government for these

655
00:38:31,535 --> 00:38:36,935
Speaker 10: bloody houses, for praying Aurora people, and and and we

656
00:38:37,095 --> 00:38:41,055
Speaker 10: have to comply before them. It's just it's not fair.

657
00:38:41,135 --> 00:38:41,335
Speaker 6: Really.

658
00:38:44,935 --> 00:38:45,175
Speaker 10: Yeah.

659
00:38:45,495 --> 00:38:47,215
Speaker 4: Look, I don't know whether i'd say it's not fair.

660
00:38:47,255 --> 00:38:50,695
Speaker 4: I suppose I'm a bit more practical maybe, And go, Look,

661
00:38:50,695 --> 00:38:53,135
Speaker 4: I understand that the government's got a pretty big job

662
00:38:53,255 --> 00:38:56,935
Speaker 4: to do in terms of getting their properties up to compliance.

663
00:38:57,775 --> 00:39:00,135
Speaker 4: And so the fact that they've given themselves and it's

664
00:39:00,175 --> 00:39:02,055
Speaker 4: not dis government, it's not even the previous one, it's

665
00:39:02,095 --> 00:39:05,535
Speaker 4: the one before that sort of thing, have given themselves

666
00:39:07,535 --> 00:39:09,735
Speaker 4: some time to do this.

667
00:39:10,535 --> 00:39:11,095
Speaker 12: I can't.

668
00:39:12,375 --> 00:39:15,135
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, you know, I kind of understand why they have,

669
00:39:15,335 --> 00:39:20,175
Speaker 4: but yeah, yeah, okay, nice to talk to you all

670
00:39:20,255 --> 00:39:23,135
Speaker 4: of this. So Frank oh By, then, great text with

671
00:39:23,255 --> 00:39:25,015
Speaker 4: regard to the leaves. I'm going to look this up

672
00:39:25,415 --> 00:39:28,775
Speaker 4: during the break, Hey, Pete, regarding the leaves dropping. Look

673
00:39:28,895 --> 00:39:32,015
Speaker 4: up the billy goat leaf vacuum. I bought one years

674
00:39:32,055 --> 00:39:34,375
Speaker 4: ago and it clears my fifty meter drive in ten

675
00:39:34,455 --> 00:39:36,895
Speaker 4: minutes and makes great compost or. I'm going to look

676
00:39:36,935 --> 00:39:39,655
Speaker 4: that up, the Billy goat leaf vacuum. We might be

677
00:39:39,735 --> 00:39:43,135
Speaker 4: onto something, folks. We'll talk all things building and construction

678
00:39:43,415 --> 00:39:46,335
Speaker 4: after news, sport and weather. Top of the hour at

679
00:39:46,375 --> 00:39:48,135
Speaker 4: seven o'clock. If you'd like to join us, the lines

680
00:39:48,135 --> 00:39:50,135
Speaker 4: are open. The number to call, oh, eight hundred and

681
00:39:50,215 --> 00:39:51,215
Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty.

682
00:40:06,455 --> 00:40:10,615
Speaker 3: Yes, you let them mother, And what I think about

683
00:40:10,775 --> 00:40:16,375
Speaker 3: its your boy, pat to the place. When I talk

684
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Speaker 3: to yourself to save.

685
00:40:20,015 --> 00:41:00,135
Speaker 13: I told you so. You be to the shatat step the.

686
00:41:05,615 --> 00:41:20,815
Speaker 1: Mistiness measure twice, got once, but maybe Collpete first. Peter

687
00:41:20,935 --> 00:41:24,415
Speaker 1: wolf Gamp, the resident builder with light four solar. It's

688
00:41:24,455 --> 00:41:27,215
Speaker 1: like the switch to solar today. Used talks, it'd be.

689
00:41:27,895 --> 00:41:30,095
Speaker 4: Your news talks. He'd been welcome back to the program. Oh,

690
00:41:30,175 --> 00:41:32,335
Speaker 4: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

691
00:41:32,375 --> 00:41:35,855
Speaker 4: We've got some spear lines now, all things building construction,

692
00:41:36,015 --> 00:41:40,255
Speaker 4: whether it's product material, you know, selections, what's the right

693
00:41:40,335 --> 00:41:42,895
Speaker 4: product to use for the right application. Actually, i'll tell

694
00:41:42,935 --> 00:41:45,815
Speaker 4: you what just on that. One of my little jobs

695
00:41:45,815 --> 00:41:47,975
Speaker 4: that I had on my list this week was a

696
00:41:48,055 --> 00:41:52,295
Speaker 4: situation where there was a small amount of flooring had

697
00:41:52,335 --> 00:41:56,655
Speaker 4: been added on to some existing tongue and groove flooring,

698
00:41:56,695 --> 00:42:00,135
Speaker 4: and whenever it was installed, no one hadnogged underneath to

699
00:42:00,215 --> 00:42:03,455
Speaker 4: support that gap, right, So it was kind of a

700
00:42:04,295 --> 00:42:07,375
Speaker 4: slightly ugly butt joint where they just butted some particle

701
00:42:07,415 --> 00:42:11,455
Speaker 4: board into the edge of the strip flooring the tongue

702
00:42:11,455 --> 00:42:14,935
Speaker 4: and groove flooring that was down there, and so inevitably

703
00:42:15,055 --> 00:42:17,975
Speaker 4: that join had got a little bit loose because there

704
00:42:18,055 --> 00:42:20,575
Speaker 4: was a gap in between the two surfaces. And there

705
00:42:20,695 --> 00:42:24,215
Speaker 4: was nothing supporting it from underneath. So underneath the floor,

706
00:42:25,255 --> 00:42:27,415
Speaker 4: cut a piece of timber, cut it slightly too long,

707
00:42:27,535 --> 00:42:31,735
Speaker 4: crawled back out, cut it slightly shorter back underneath the floor,

708
00:42:32,055 --> 00:42:35,495
Speaker 4: fix that into position. And then now that the jawing

709
00:42:35,855 --> 00:42:39,495
Speaker 4: was fully supported or more supported, I had to deal

710
00:42:39,575 --> 00:42:41,855
Speaker 4: with kind of this gap. And at one stage I thought, oh,

711
00:42:41,935 --> 00:42:44,215
Speaker 4: maybe I cut the whole board out, fixing a new

712
00:42:44,335 --> 00:42:47,535
Speaker 4: piece and then glue them together, or in this instance

713
00:42:47,615 --> 00:42:50,655
Speaker 4: where the join wasn't particularly wide, I ended up. And

714
00:42:50,735 --> 00:42:53,615
Speaker 4: I've often talked about this. It's a product called repair Care.

715
00:42:54,255 --> 00:42:59,895
Speaker 4: It's like a two part POxy and filler that you

716
00:42:59,975 --> 00:43:03,455
Speaker 4: can use up to quite large gaps. Actually, and given

717
00:43:03,535 --> 00:43:06,215
Speaker 4: that this gap wasn't particularly large, but it was undulating

718
00:43:06,415 --> 00:43:08,295
Speaker 4: and it was only ever a meter and a half

719
00:43:08,375 --> 00:43:12,215
Speaker 4: distance anyway, I got some of that at the Razine

720
00:43:12,255 --> 00:43:14,215
Speaker 4: Color Shop on my way to a meeting the other morning,

721
00:43:14,335 --> 00:43:17,735
Speaker 4: and then mixed that up, applied that actually took care

722
00:43:17,775 --> 00:43:20,655
Speaker 4: of it quite nicely. So that was one job. Then

723
00:43:20,695 --> 00:43:23,055
Speaker 4: the other job was sorting out the vapor barrier underneath

724
00:43:23,055 --> 00:43:26,895
Speaker 4: the property as well, which had not had that done

725
00:43:27,015 --> 00:43:29,655
Speaker 4: because it didn't need to be done for healthy Homes compliance.

726
00:43:29,735 --> 00:43:31,735
Speaker 4: But looking at the list, and I'm looking at the

727
00:43:32,255 --> 00:43:38,735
Speaker 4: tenancy dot gov dot NZ website right now. So from

728
00:43:38,815 --> 00:43:41,695
Speaker 4: the first of July twenty twenty four, all kind of

729
00:43:41,735 --> 00:43:45,255
Speaker 4: AURA formerly Housing New Zealand houses and registered community housing

730
00:43:45,295 --> 00:43:51,735
Speaker 4: providers must comply with the Healthy Home standards. From July first,

731
00:43:51,975 --> 00:43:56,415
Speaker 4: twenty twenty five, all private rentals must comply. Now, what

732
00:43:56,615 --> 00:43:58,455
Speaker 4: that's about and we had a text on that just

733
00:43:58,575 --> 00:44:01,975
Speaker 4: before the news was that. Someone said, no, the guy,

734
00:44:02,175 --> 00:44:05,415
Speaker 4: the rules are that it's from twenty twenty five. That's

735
00:44:05,455 --> 00:44:09,015
Speaker 4: only if you have had a renewed tenancy. So the

736
00:44:09,175 --> 00:44:11,335
Speaker 4: property that I was looking after this week, a new

737
00:44:11,415 --> 00:44:14,255
Speaker 4: tenant was moving in. That means a new tenancy agreement.

738
00:44:14,575 --> 00:44:18,015
Speaker 4: That means that the property must comply now. Whereas let's

739
00:44:18,015 --> 00:44:20,575
Speaker 4: say you've got an existing tenant and they're going to

740
00:44:20,655 --> 00:44:23,895
Speaker 4: be your tenant from the first of July twenty twenty five,

741
00:44:24,695 --> 00:44:28,655
Speaker 4: and the house is not Healthy Homes compliant because technically

742
00:44:28,695 --> 00:44:32,815
Speaker 4: it doesn't need to be right now then, regardless of

743
00:44:32,855 --> 00:44:35,255
Speaker 4: whether it's a sitting tenant or a renewed tenancy or

744
00:44:35,255 --> 00:44:39,095
Speaker 4: anything like that, by the first of July twenty twenty five,

745
00:44:39,295 --> 00:44:42,015
Speaker 4: it will need to be so that's another deadline for

746
00:44:42,495 --> 00:44:45,495
Speaker 4: landlords to comply with. OH eight one hundred and eighty

747
00:44:45,535 --> 00:44:48,255
Speaker 4: ten eighty is the number to call. And someone text

748
00:44:48,335 --> 00:44:51,135
Speaker 4: me we were talking about leaves and gutters and cleaning.

749
00:44:51,215 --> 00:44:52,015
Speaker 4: We all love trees.

750
00:44:52,175 --> 00:44:52,415
Speaker 11: I do.

751
00:44:53,775 --> 00:44:56,735
Speaker 4: I think some of those plane trees that are in

752
00:44:57,215 --> 00:45:01,175
Speaker 4: older established suburbs in Auckland are beautiful. In fact, I

753
00:45:01,295 --> 00:45:03,695
Speaker 4: quite like looking at the leaves when they fall onto

754
00:45:03,695 --> 00:45:06,495
Speaker 4: the ground, but from a practicality point of view, because

755
00:45:06,535 --> 00:45:10,175
Speaker 4: inevitably the leaves fall an autumn, no surprise is there.

756
00:45:10,295 --> 00:45:13,295
Speaker 4: Guess what happens in autumn too. Winter arrives and it

757
00:45:13,375 --> 00:45:16,775
Speaker 4: starts raining, and then suddenly rain water is not able

758
00:45:16,815 --> 00:45:20,775
Speaker 4: to get to the gutters, the curbs and the catch

759
00:45:20,855 --> 00:45:23,935
Speaker 4: pits because they're all blocked up with leaves. Anyway, some

760
00:45:24,095 --> 00:45:26,855
Speaker 4: text thro and went, hey, check out the old Billy

761
00:45:26,895 --> 00:45:29,135
Speaker 4: goat leaf vacuum bought one years ago at Clevean's. By

762
00:45:29,215 --> 00:45:31,695
Speaker 4: fifty meter drive in about ten minutes makes great compost.

763
00:45:31,775 --> 00:45:33,535
Speaker 4: I have to say they're an impressive piece of cat

764
00:45:34,335 --> 00:45:36,255
Speaker 4: that would wake the neighbors up on a Sunday morning,

765
00:45:36,895 --> 00:45:38,775
Speaker 4: especially if you took the muffler off. OH eight one

766
00:45:38,815 --> 00:45:41,175
Speaker 4: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call Barbara.

767
00:45:41,255 --> 00:45:42,255
Speaker 4: A very good morning to you.

768
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Speaker 14: Oh good morning, thank you for taking my call.

769
00:45:46,895 --> 00:45:47,215
Speaker 4: Measure.

770
00:45:47,455 --> 00:45:51,615
Speaker 14: I just want some advice. We are tenants coming up

771
00:45:51,735 --> 00:45:55,375
Speaker 14: three years now, yes, and we're in a property that

772
00:45:55,615 --> 00:45:59,575
Speaker 14: is down to drive away and it's a front properties

773
00:46:00,095 --> 00:46:05,215
Speaker 14: garage all right, so it's class is a two bedroom house,

774
00:46:05,295 --> 00:46:10,415
Speaker 14: but it's very dumb, very cold, and when you go

775
00:46:10,535 --> 00:46:15,735
Speaker 14: down the hallway the floor is sinking. And then I'm

776
00:46:15,775 --> 00:46:18,775
Speaker 14: walking down the hall when I go to the main

777
00:46:18,895 --> 00:46:22,815
Speaker 14: bedroom and the cat is all with damp. So I've

778
00:46:23,255 --> 00:46:25,535
Speaker 14: been having a bit of a running with the property

779
00:46:25,655 --> 00:46:29,455
Speaker 14: manager and he got us a dehumidifier and sent me

780
00:46:29,535 --> 00:46:32,135
Speaker 14: an email saying you have to use a du Ini

781
00:46:32,215 --> 00:46:36,415
Speaker 14: fire you have to pay the powerble. Now, the second bedroom,

782
00:46:37,015 --> 00:46:39,135
Speaker 14: I say classes a bedroom. You can't get a bed

783
00:46:39,215 --> 00:46:42,455
Speaker 14: in it. But it has a glass door that goes

784
00:46:42,495 --> 00:46:47,535
Speaker 14: into next door's garage and so every time they're working

785
00:46:47,615 --> 00:46:50,735
Speaker 14: in the garage with the fumes, if they're using lubricants,

786
00:46:50,775 --> 00:46:55,655
Speaker 14: spread painting or whatever. And I just wondered, am I

787
00:46:55,775 --> 00:46:58,735
Speaker 14: aloaded as a tenant to get somebody in to do

788
00:46:59,255 --> 00:47:02,815
Speaker 14: a healthy homes inspection for us? Because the only form

789
00:47:02,855 --> 00:47:05,415
Speaker 14: of heating we've got it is a heat pump, but

790
00:47:05,575 --> 00:47:09,375
Speaker 14: it glows straight onto the wall. It doesn't go through

791
00:47:09,455 --> 00:47:13,175
Speaker 14: the house. It's in a corner of the lounge and

792
00:47:13,375 --> 00:47:15,775
Speaker 14: so it just blows onto the wall. For the rest

793
00:47:15,815 --> 00:47:20,815
Speaker 14: of the house. It's freezing. Have mold on the ceiling

794
00:47:20,895 --> 00:47:23,295
Speaker 14: in the bedroom, and we have mold on the ceiling

795
00:47:23,375 --> 00:47:27,535
Speaker 14: of the bathroom. And she's saying, just clean it off.

796
00:47:28,015 --> 00:47:31,215
Speaker 14: And thought, that is normal, Ethos, that is normal. I said,

797
00:47:31,215 --> 00:47:33,175
Speaker 14: what do you mean it's normal? He said, that is

798
00:47:33,295 --> 00:47:36,575
Speaker 14: normal for the age of the house. And we don't

799
00:47:36,655 --> 00:47:37,175
Speaker 14: know what to do.

800
00:47:37,375 --> 00:47:40,695
Speaker 4: So you moved into the property three years.

801
00:47:40,535 --> 00:47:44,135
Speaker 14: Ago, coming up three years in December.

802
00:47:44,695 --> 00:47:44,775
Speaker 13: So.

803
00:47:46,375 --> 00:47:47,375
Speaker 4: Twenty twenty one.

804
00:47:48,695 --> 00:47:52,055
Speaker 14: Yeah, and so we've had three property managers up to now,

805
00:47:52,535 --> 00:47:56,935
Speaker 14: but they're always said and one acknowledged that the floor

806
00:47:57,655 --> 00:48:00,415
Speaker 14: was sinking in the bathroom in the hallway next to

807
00:48:00,495 --> 00:48:02,735
Speaker 14: the bathroom, and he said, oh, there must be a

808
00:48:02,855 --> 00:48:05,735
Speaker 14: slowly there or something. Oh yeah, I must get that done.

809
00:48:08,135 --> 00:48:11,415
Speaker 14: And every time you need something doing on our cost

810
00:48:11,495 --> 00:48:13,495
Speaker 14: too much, cost too much. And I eventually got to

811
00:48:13,575 --> 00:48:16,855
Speaker 14: go to the property manager that the honor does know

812
00:48:17,575 --> 00:48:20,335
Speaker 14: about the dumpness in the bedroom and I said, what

813
00:48:20,695 --> 00:48:22,695
Speaker 14: she knows and she didn't let us know when we,

814
00:48:22,895 --> 00:48:25,335
Speaker 14: you know, took over the property. And he goes, oh,

815
00:48:25,455 --> 00:48:30,695
Speaker 14: cost too much, cost too, that's it. So am I

816
00:48:30,855 --> 00:48:32,175
Speaker 14: allowed to get somebody in.

817
00:48:33,815 --> 00:48:36,015
Speaker 4: I don't see why you shouldn't be allowed to do that.

818
00:48:38,455 --> 00:48:40,815
Speaker 4: I tell you what just I was going to do this,

819
00:48:40,935 --> 00:48:44,575
Speaker 4: but you can. You can do it yourself as well.

820
00:48:45,055 --> 00:48:48,055
Speaker 4: So if you go to tenancy dot gov dot NZ

821
00:48:48,775 --> 00:48:53,815
Speaker 4: right and then search for healthy Homes. I'm looking at

822
00:48:53,855 --> 00:48:56,695
Speaker 4: a page right now which has like it's called a

823
00:48:56,815 --> 00:49:02,495
Speaker 4: decision tool. Yeah, okay, so you go compliance timeframes, decision tool,

824
00:49:03,175 --> 00:49:05,375
Speaker 4: and then as a tenant, it'll step you through a

825
00:49:05,495 --> 00:49:10,295
Speaker 4: process in terms of what needed to comply when it

826
00:49:10,375 --> 00:49:15,295
Speaker 4: needed to comply. So, for example, I know for a

827
00:49:15,375 --> 00:49:18,975
Speaker 4: property we're a new tenant moved in this week that

828
00:49:19,135 --> 00:49:22,815
Speaker 4: a healthy Homes compliance document had to be issued for

829
00:49:22,935 --> 00:49:25,055
Speaker 4: that renewed for that new tenancy.

830
00:49:25,215 --> 00:49:30,655
Speaker 14: Right, I did get one of dolls and just said

831
00:49:30,655 --> 00:49:34,655
Speaker 14: everything was fine and it awful, said that we are

832
00:49:34,695 --> 00:49:41,095
Speaker 14: the HRV unit. We don't we don't have that. We

833
00:49:41,775 --> 00:49:44,855
Speaker 14: don't have any heating, only the heat pump, as I said,

834
00:49:44,935 --> 00:49:47,815
Speaker 14: which is in the corner of the loan excuse me,

835
00:49:48,575 --> 00:49:51,095
Speaker 14: and just blows onto the wall and now we gets

836
00:49:51,175 --> 00:49:52,215
Speaker 14: through the host at all.

837
00:49:54,375 --> 00:49:58,975
Speaker 4: I mean in terms of the requirements a heat pump. Sorry,

838
00:49:59,015 --> 00:50:01,495
Speaker 4: I can hear that. You know, it's probably it doesn't

839
00:50:01,535 --> 00:50:03,335
Speaker 4: sound like a great place to be living in, and

840
00:50:04,575 --> 00:50:07,135
Speaker 4: I would imagine that in this ringto market it might

841
00:50:07,255 --> 00:50:09,855
Speaker 4: not be easy for you to find something that's affordable. Well,

842
00:50:10,055 --> 00:50:11,055
Speaker 4: that's a better country.

843
00:50:11,255 --> 00:50:15,535
Speaker 14: I formed Social Welfare. You have to show them that

844
00:50:15,695 --> 00:50:21,935
Speaker 14: you've applied for ten hoses, right, And then we wanted

845
00:50:21,935 --> 00:50:24,775
Speaker 14: to see if we could get into that housing thing

846
00:50:24,975 --> 00:50:28,055
Speaker 14: for the new citizens beginning at HAU. I think of

847
00:50:28,175 --> 00:50:31,255
Speaker 14: something and they said, no, you have to show that

848
00:50:32,015 --> 00:50:34,815
Speaker 14: you've applied for ten hoses, right, And I said, well,

849
00:50:34,855 --> 00:50:38,375
Speaker 14: there's not even ten hoses for rent area.

850
00:50:38,695 --> 00:50:41,055
Speaker 4: If you've got access to the to the web, just

851
00:50:41,175 --> 00:50:43,735
Speaker 4: go to tenancy dot gov dot nz a healthy Homes

852
00:50:43,775 --> 00:50:47,615
Speaker 4: and then it also steps you through a decision tool.

853
00:50:49,975 --> 00:50:54,375
Speaker 4: I'm wondering whether, as a technicality, your tenancy began before

854
00:50:54,455 --> 00:51:00,095
Speaker 4: the deadline for Healthy Homes compliance was there, and therefore

855
00:51:01,695 --> 00:51:05,575
Speaker 4: your landlord may not need to comply for a sitting

856
00:51:05,735 --> 00:51:09,495
Speaker 4: tenant until the first of July twenty twenty five, which

857
00:51:09,575 --> 00:51:14,295
Speaker 4: is obviously just over a year away, but also having

858
00:51:14,535 --> 00:51:19,335
Speaker 4: just completed a Healthy Homes compliance certificate. It shouldn't just

859
00:51:19,455 --> 00:51:23,335
Speaker 4: be one page saying everything's okay. There's actually quite a

860
00:51:23,415 --> 00:51:26,215
Speaker 4: lot of detail that's involved if you use the government

861
00:51:26,335 --> 00:51:29,815
Speaker 4: tool for doing it. So, for example, in terms of

862
00:51:29,895 --> 00:51:33,655
Speaker 4: the heating calculation, you need to go to the Government's

863
00:51:33,695 --> 00:51:36,855
Speaker 4: heating calculation formula. It asks you to tell you to

864
00:51:36,935 --> 00:51:40,175
Speaker 4: describe the type of walls, to calculate the space, to

865
00:51:40,375 --> 00:51:44,015
Speaker 4: determine the capacity of the heat pump, and then it

866
00:51:44,055 --> 00:51:46,455
Speaker 4: will tell you whether or not it complies. So just

867
00:51:46,575 --> 00:51:51,495
Speaker 4: a one page certificate saying it's fine might not actually

868
00:51:51,575 --> 00:51:54,255
Speaker 4: make it fine. And I would suspect from what you're

869
00:51:54,295 --> 00:51:58,975
Speaker 4: telling me that if an independent assessor came, they would

870
00:51:59,015 --> 00:52:01,975
Speaker 4: probably find that the house is not compliant. But then

871
00:52:02,415 --> 00:52:05,695
Speaker 4: that might not help you because your landlord may not

872
00:52:05,855 --> 00:52:08,455
Speaker 4: need to apply until the first of July. However, if

873
00:52:09,215 --> 00:52:11,655
Speaker 4: if you moved out and someone new moved in, they

874
00:52:11,695 --> 00:52:14,975
Speaker 4: would have to provide a new Healthy Homeless compliance statement,

875
00:52:15,495 --> 00:52:18,375
Speaker 4: and I suspect from what you're describing it would fail.

876
00:52:18,775 --> 00:52:21,375
Speaker 4: But have a look through that tendency services first, and

877
00:52:21,495 --> 00:52:24,895
Speaker 4: I think it'll use the tool, the compliance tool or

878
00:52:24,935 --> 00:52:28,575
Speaker 4: that it's compliance time frames, decision tool is what you're

879
00:52:28,615 --> 00:52:30,815
Speaker 4: looking for, and that will give you a good insight

880
00:52:30,895 --> 00:52:35,375
Speaker 4: as to whether or not the property that you're in

881
00:52:35,455 --> 00:52:39,255
Speaker 4: his compliant. If it's not compliant, then you can go

882
00:52:39,415 --> 00:52:44,335
Speaker 4: to tendancy services and seek redress, which might be compensation

883
00:52:44,655 --> 00:52:48,055
Speaker 4: or it might then force the landlord to make the

884
00:52:48,135 --> 00:52:51,655
Speaker 4: property better. And to be fair, it sounds like it's

885
00:52:51,775 --> 00:52:54,615
Speaker 4: not in great condition and it doesn't sound like it's

886
00:52:54,655 --> 00:52:57,575
Speaker 4: a particularly good place for you to be living. No,

887
00:52:57,935 --> 00:53:01,255
Speaker 4: not try that first. Okay, let us know how you

888
00:53:01,335 --> 00:53:04,575
Speaker 4: get on all of this. Barbara, take care and you too,

889
00:53:05,615 --> 00:53:10,495
Speaker 4: you and news talks. I mean, it's to be absolutely fair.

890
00:53:10,535 --> 00:53:12,615
Speaker 4: I don't have a lot of time for landlords that

891
00:53:12,815 --> 00:53:17,815
Speaker 4: don't make their houses healthy homes compliance. I don't feel

892
00:53:17,855 --> 00:53:22,055
Speaker 4: that the bar is particularly high. As I mentioned before

893
00:53:22,095 --> 00:53:24,135
Speaker 4: the break, if you've got a property that was a

894
00:53:24,335 --> 00:53:27,655
Speaker 4: long way from compliance, yes, you would have to invest

895
00:53:27,735 --> 00:53:30,775
Speaker 4: a significant amount of money into making it compliant. I

896
00:53:30,815 --> 00:53:33,695
Speaker 4: mean installing, for example, a heat pump or another fixed

897
00:53:33,735 --> 00:53:35,495
Speaker 4: form of heating. That's going to be a couple of

898
00:53:35,575 --> 00:53:39,335
Speaker 4: grand If you had to insulate an accessible roof and

899
00:53:39,575 --> 00:53:42,895
Speaker 4: underfloor space. That's going to be four or five six

900
00:53:42,975 --> 00:53:46,855
Speaker 4: thousand dollars probably if you had to install a vapor barrier,

901
00:53:47,135 --> 00:53:49,215
Speaker 4: that's going to cost you maybe a couple of grand

902
00:53:49,295 --> 00:53:51,735
Speaker 4: to do that. So you know, it would soon add

903
00:53:51,815 --> 00:53:57,295
Speaker 4: up adding extraction into kitchens, bathrooms, those sorts of things. Yep,

904
00:53:57,935 --> 00:54:00,735
Speaker 4: if there's nothing there at all, it's just I would

905
00:54:00,775 --> 00:54:03,295
Speaker 4: imagine that there wouldn't be that many houses where there

906
00:54:03,415 --> 00:54:05,135
Speaker 4: is none of those items there and you had to

907
00:54:05,215 --> 00:54:09,695
Speaker 4: do absolutely everything. But it's possible. I guess I eight

908
00:54:09,815 --> 00:54:12,175
Speaker 4: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call if

909
00:54:12,215 --> 00:54:15,375
Speaker 4: you on talk tenancies. And it's a hot topic at

910
00:54:15,415 --> 00:54:17,855
Speaker 4: the moment in terms of the new rules from Chris

911
00:54:17,975 --> 00:54:23,575
Speaker 4: Bishop around this proposal that there won't be any minimum

912
00:54:23,655 --> 00:54:26,895
Speaker 4: sizes that if a developer wants to build some apartments

913
00:54:26,975 --> 00:54:30,455
Speaker 4: in each of those apartments are twenty square meters, which

914
00:54:31,095 --> 00:54:33,255
Speaker 4: mark it out on the floor. Twenty square meters ain't

915
00:54:33,295 --> 00:54:37,975
Speaker 4: that big, and it may not need a balcony, then

916
00:54:38,735 --> 00:54:40,575
Speaker 4: maybe they'll be allowed to do that. What's it going

917
00:54:40,615 --> 00:54:43,415
Speaker 4: to look like going forward if that's what we build.

918
00:54:43,495 --> 00:54:45,575
Speaker 4: I suspect that there might be a few of them

919
00:54:45,615 --> 00:54:50,255
Speaker 4: built I don't think they'll become enormously popular. Do they

920
00:54:50,335 --> 00:54:53,175
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921
00:54:53,215 --> 00:54:55,295
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922
00:54:55,375 --> 00:54:58,055
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923
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924
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946
00:56:22,895 --> 00:56:26,375
Speaker 4: Zeb you and his talk ZB we're talking all things

947
00:56:26,455 --> 00:56:29,935
Speaker 4: building construction, and I'll be absolutely honest with you. I

948
00:56:30,055 --> 00:56:34,615
Speaker 4: have one I possibly two at times on the football

949
00:56:34,735 --> 00:56:40,175
Speaker 4: as well. Netherlands, who I am supporting, are playing against

950
00:56:40,255 --> 00:56:45,055
Speaker 4: Tuquai Turkey nil all at the stage England of course

951
00:56:45,175 --> 00:56:48,375
Speaker 4: scraped through by the skin of their teeth on penalties,

952
00:56:49,175 --> 00:56:51,095
Speaker 4: which will mean that whoever is the winner of this

953
00:56:51,295 --> 00:56:55,255
Speaker 4: team goes on to play England in the semi finals.

954
00:56:56,495 --> 00:56:59,055
Speaker 4: I also have a wager on this match in the

955
00:56:59,175 --> 00:57:02,455
Speaker 4: sense that myself and my good mate Tim who is

956
00:57:02,535 --> 00:57:06,215
Speaker 4: a mad keen English supporter, whichever team advances the further

957
00:57:06,535 --> 00:57:08,615
Speaker 4: the other one buys them breakfast. I'm looking for that

958
00:57:09,415 --> 00:57:10,895
Speaker 4: for to that, and I was saying to Bevan, my

959
00:57:10,975 --> 00:57:15,255
Speaker 4: producer this morning. One of my early ish memories is

960
00:57:15,335 --> 00:57:19,615
Speaker 4: getting woken up by Dad to go around to our

961
00:57:19,935 --> 00:57:23,855
Speaker 4: friend's place. Hoop Crane's a good old duchy who lived

962
00:57:23,855 --> 00:57:25,535
Speaker 4: around the corner from us. I presume he had a

963
00:57:25,535 --> 00:57:28,415
Speaker 4: color TV and maybe we didn't in nineteen seventy eight

964
00:57:28,895 --> 00:57:31,735
Speaker 4: to get up to watch the Netherlands play Argentina in

965
00:57:31,855 --> 00:57:34,495
Speaker 4: the World Cup final in nineteen seventy eight. I then

966
00:57:34,615 --> 00:57:37,975
Speaker 4: arrived at school as a nineteen seventy eight I was

967
00:57:38,135 --> 00:57:42,655
Speaker 4: a Form one student at De l Arcel College, arrived late.

968
00:57:42,975 --> 00:57:44,855
Speaker 4: When asked why I was late, I said I was

969
00:57:44,895 --> 00:57:47,935
Speaker 4: home watching the football with my dad and Hoop, and

970
00:57:48,095 --> 00:57:50,615
Speaker 4: then by that time news had spread and all the

971
00:57:50,695 --> 00:57:53,415
Speaker 4: boys started singing, don't cry for me Argentina. Anyway, I've

972
00:57:53,415 --> 00:57:55,535
Speaker 4: been watching football since seventy eight. I've been playing it

973
00:57:55,615 --> 00:57:57,455
Speaker 4: since then as well, to be fair back in the day.

974
00:57:58,215 --> 00:58:01,855
Speaker 4: So this is great to watch my beloved Netherlands play

975
00:58:02,095 --> 00:58:05,255
Speaker 4: in Turkey in the hope that they'll progress through as well.

976
00:58:05,375 --> 00:58:07,895
Speaker 4: So I'll keep I've done a little bit of decorating

977
00:58:07,975 --> 00:58:11,335
Speaker 4: in the studio just so that people were aware of

978
00:58:11,575 --> 00:58:15,695
Speaker 4: where my allegiances lie. You'll find pictures of that up

979
00:58:15,775 --> 00:58:17,935
Speaker 4: on social media as well, and if you want to,

980
00:58:18,055 --> 00:58:22,095
Speaker 4: if you want to feel good, check out the videos

981
00:58:22,175 --> 00:58:27,535
Speaker 4: and the footage of the Dutch fans in Germany going

982
00:58:27,615 --> 00:58:31,375
Speaker 4: to the game and celebrating after the games and so on. Seriously,

983
00:58:31,535 --> 00:58:34,455
Speaker 4: they are the best fans in the world. N res

984
00:58:34,615 --> 00:58:37,095
Speaker 4: No links and they're all just dancing en mass in

985
00:58:37,215 --> 00:58:40,015
Speaker 4: the streets. It is absolutely stunning. Right, let's get back

986
00:58:40,055 --> 00:58:42,655
Speaker 4: to the business of building. Ross. Good morning to you, sir,

987
00:58:43,775 --> 00:58:44,535
Speaker 4: No great.

988
00:58:44,455 --> 00:58:47,335
Speaker 11: Now I'm supporting the Netherlands too, because good mates that

989
00:58:47,455 --> 00:58:48,695
Speaker 11: live in Holland.

990
00:58:48,855 --> 00:58:52,135
Speaker 4: So it's a funny.

991
00:58:53,335 --> 00:58:53,535
Speaker 9: Yeah.

992
00:58:53,615 --> 00:58:55,055
Speaker 4: Anyway, how can we help Ross? What's up?

993
00:58:56,735 --> 00:58:59,495
Speaker 11: I've struck a problem. I'm digging under the house, so

994
00:58:59,695 --> 00:59:02,295
Speaker 11: extend that bring us like a workshop area and the

995
00:59:02,415 --> 00:59:05,015
Speaker 11: plans I've got. I've got to dig down well one

996
00:59:05,095 --> 00:59:08,895
Speaker 11: point eight meters, trying to small in diameter poles to

997
00:59:08,975 --> 00:59:10,855
Speaker 11: go up to support it. So I've got to take

998
00:59:10,895 --> 00:59:11,455
Speaker 11: bracing out.

999
00:59:11,735 --> 00:59:12,455
Speaker 15: Yes, and.

1000
00:59:14,535 --> 00:59:17,135
Speaker 11: I'm in Bonga Ray in the sort of volcanic area.

1001
00:59:17,975 --> 00:59:21,455
Speaker 11: There's two holes. I've got it gold. But the third

1002
00:59:21,535 --> 00:59:25,215
Speaker 11: one I've struck a big blue rock and you can't

1003
00:59:25,255 --> 00:59:27,735
Speaker 11: buy long jackemmer. But so I've got a Chinese jacketm

1004
00:59:27,735 --> 00:59:32,815
Speaker 11: it works actually quite well. But so I've welded. He's

1005
00:59:32,855 --> 00:59:33,495
Speaker 11: a crowd.

1006
00:59:35,255 --> 00:59:35,735
Speaker 1: To go down.

1007
00:59:35,775 --> 00:59:38,655
Speaker 11: One of my bits is about one six meters long.

1008
00:59:40,575 --> 00:59:44,575
Speaker 11: But I've struck this bloody hard blue rock which crashed

1009
00:59:44,575 --> 00:59:46,575
Speaker 11: to put on the road, and I can't get through it.

1010
00:59:46,895 --> 00:59:48,935
Speaker 11: Mate suggested draw a hole and put a half a

1011
00:59:48,975 --> 00:59:49,735
Speaker 11: stick of jelly in it.

1012
00:59:49,855 --> 00:59:51,935
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well that's a good way to get all

1013
00:59:51,975 --> 00:59:52,735
Speaker 4: the rest of your house.

1014
00:59:54,455 --> 00:59:56,295
Speaker 11: It's hard to buy it nowadays, I think jelly. I

1015
00:59:56,335 --> 00:59:58,255
Speaker 11: don't know. I haven't tried, but you don't see advertise

1016
00:59:58,335 --> 00:59:58,935
Speaker 11: on the internet to.

1017
00:59:58,975 --> 01:00:01,415
Speaker 4: You well, and I suspect if you put mad on

1018
01:00:01,495 --> 01:00:03,695
Speaker 4: the internet going, can I please buy some explodes? If

1019
01:00:03,735 --> 01:00:06,775
Speaker 4: you might have the police knocking on the door too, Okay,

1020
01:00:06,895 --> 01:00:10,095
Speaker 4: So can I ask a very personal question? Do you

1021
01:00:10,175 --> 01:00:11,655
Speaker 4: have a building consent for this work?

1022
01:00:13,215 --> 01:00:15,255
Speaker 11: Yep, I've got all the plans and the contents and

1023
01:00:15,295 --> 01:00:18,655
Speaker 11: every but I want to do it myself and I've

1024
01:00:18,655 --> 01:00:20,335
Speaker 11: got to do That's.

1025
01:00:19,895 --> 01:00:23,055
Speaker 4: Fine, No, that's absolutely fine. What I'm thinking is is

1026
01:00:23,135 --> 01:00:24,975
Speaker 4: that is the reason that you have to go that

1027
01:00:25,135 --> 01:00:28,415
Speaker 4: deep to provide bearing for a pile or is it

1028
01:00:28,615 --> 01:00:31,895
Speaker 4: bracing for the pile? Like do you need to remove that.

1029
01:00:34,135 --> 01:00:37,455
Speaker 11: Well, the idea is I put the turned small end

1030
01:00:37,575 --> 01:00:41,415
Speaker 11: diameter poles down one point. I've got to go under

1031
01:00:41,415 --> 01:00:44,495
Speaker 11: the bear. The bears are three hundred mills. I've got

1032
01:00:44,575 --> 01:00:49,175
Speaker 11: three of them under the house. But that's so it

1033
01:00:49,255 --> 01:00:52,255
Speaker 11: goes down so deep, even though it's going to hold

1034
01:00:52,615 --> 01:00:54,895
Speaker 11: if I don't go down that deep. But trouble is

1035
01:00:56,135 --> 01:00:58,695
Speaker 11: so because I've taken some of the internal cross bracing

1036
01:00:58,735 --> 01:01:01,975
Speaker 11: out to hold the house even though I'm in a

1037
01:01:02,015 --> 01:01:02,735
Speaker 11: low window area.

1038
01:01:03,975 --> 01:01:06,895
Speaker 4: I just wonder whether the most practical solution is going

1039
01:01:06,975 --> 01:01:10,535
Speaker 4: to be to go back to your engineer and go, look,

1040
01:01:11,335 --> 01:01:13,895
Speaker 4: I've come down to this point here, which is obviously

1041
01:01:13,975 --> 01:01:17,215
Speaker 4: incredibly solid, right, so we're not worried about bearing, And

1042
01:01:17,335 --> 01:01:20,295
Speaker 4: if the issue is I needed to go deep in

1043
01:01:20,455 --> 01:01:23,815
Speaker 4: order to provide bracing, can I stay where I am,

1044
01:01:24,055 --> 01:01:26,895
Speaker 4: put the pile on top of what's obviously a very

1045
01:01:26,975 --> 01:01:29,495
Speaker 4: solid piece of ground that's not going to move, and

1046
01:01:29,655 --> 01:01:34,335
Speaker 4: then deal with the bracing somewhere else. So, if you're

1047
01:01:34,455 --> 01:01:37,815
Speaker 4: essentially looking to solve there's two things you're looking to solve.

1048
01:01:37,855 --> 01:01:40,295
Speaker 4: One is bearing and the other is bracing. Right, So

1049
01:01:40,375 --> 01:01:42,575
Speaker 4: if you've solved the bearing, because you're on hard rock,

1050
01:01:42,935 --> 01:01:45,535
Speaker 4: then the only issue to deal with is bracing, and

1051
01:01:45,695 --> 01:01:49,375
Speaker 4: your engineer might provide you with an alternative solution, which

1052
01:01:49,455 --> 01:01:51,175
Speaker 4: means you don't have to try and dig down in

1053
01:01:51,335 --> 01:01:53,175
Speaker 4: order to provide bracing on that pile.

1054
01:01:54,535 --> 01:01:57,895
Speaker 11: Yeah, this one's on the wall. I've got one internal

1055
01:01:57,975 --> 01:02:01,415
Speaker 11: one that I've got to do. But yeah, but so

1056
01:02:01,695 --> 01:02:03,695
Speaker 11: you probably is. So I could put bracing on the side.

1057
01:02:03,775 --> 01:02:04,095
Speaker 11: Might be the.

1058
01:02:04,095 --> 01:02:07,375
Speaker 4: Simplest, absolutely, because trying to get through that and I

1059
01:02:07,455 --> 01:02:09,495
Speaker 4: mean I chuckled when you said you've welded a bit

1060
01:02:09,535 --> 01:02:12,615
Speaker 4: of pipe to you or your bit, because I had

1061
01:02:12,655 --> 01:02:16,895
Speaker 4: to drill through a it was like a stone sculpture thing, right,

1062
01:02:16,975 --> 01:02:18,615
Speaker 4: And someone said I want to make it into a

1063
01:02:18,695 --> 01:02:21,215
Speaker 4: water feature, And so I took one of my old

1064
01:02:21,295 --> 01:02:23,975
Speaker 4: masonry bits and I did exactly the same thing. I

1065
01:02:24,135 --> 01:02:26,335
Speaker 4: welded a bit of rod to it, and then it

1066
01:02:26,455 --> 01:02:29,655
Speaker 4: went from being three hundred millimeters long seven hundred milimeters

1067
01:02:29,695 --> 01:02:32,855
Speaker 4: long and I could drill through. So I you and

1068
01:02:32,975 --> 01:02:35,495
Speaker 4: I are on the same page in terms of slightly

1069
01:02:35,575 --> 01:02:37,775
Speaker 4: dodgy welding and a bit of creativity.

1070
01:02:37,855 --> 01:02:44,495
Speaker 11: But this crowbar, but I bought some cheap Mixican crowbars

1071
01:02:48,815 --> 01:02:55,935
Speaker 11: with rod about yeah, six mi rod three just ambraceable,

1072
01:02:56,335 --> 01:02:58,975
Speaker 11: but it will go for about half an hour then

1073
01:02:59,095 --> 01:02:59,895
Speaker 11: just shadd.

1074
01:03:01,255 --> 01:03:04,975
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, look Ross, I think go back to your

1075
01:03:05,575 --> 01:03:07,975
Speaker 4: engineer and and go This is where I'm at, and

1076
01:03:08,095 --> 01:03:10,335
Speaker 4: I'm sure that they'll come up with a practical solution

1077
01:03:10,535 --> 01:03:12,895
Speaker 4: for you. Good luck with that, and I love the creativity,

1078
01:03:13,455 --> 01:03:15,255
Speaker 4: and good on you for doing it yourself as well

1079
01:03:15,775 --> 01:03:17,895
Speaker 4: to my dear friends Susian Barry who are watching the

1080
01:03:18,015 --> 01:03:21,095
Speaker 4: football as well and keeps stopping and starting. I am

1081
01:03:21,175 --> 01:03:23,175
Speaker 4: watching and it's not stopping and starting here, so it

1082
01:03:23,255 --> 01:03:25,095
Speaker 4: might be something to do with the internet in Devenport.

1083
01:03:25,615 --> 01:03:29,695
Speaker 4: Good luck and go Holland right here, Leandra, good morning

1084
01:03:29,775 --> 01:03:29,935
Speaker 4: to you.

1085
01:03:30,815 --> 01:03:32,615
Speaker 16: Good morning, how are you well?

1086
01:03:32,695 --> 01:03:33,855
Speaker 17: Thank you, that's good.

1087
01:03:34,415 --> 01:03:37,495
Speaker 16: I just want to just briefly talk to you about

1088
01:03:37,895 --> 01:03:42,095
Speaker 16: the new changes to the housings, yes, and the feedback

1089
01:03:42,215 --> 01:03:47,135
Speaker 16: where people are talking about how small people can build.

1090
01:03:47,775 --> 01:03:47,935
Speaker 11: Now.

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01:03:48,175 --> 01:03:52,175
Speaker 16: I lived in Stockholm, in a right in central city

1092
01:03:52,215 --> 01:03:57,575
Speaker 16: of Stockholm in Sweden for several years, and that's the

1093
01:03:57,735 --> 01:04:03,255
Speaker 16: norm over there, so you can have twenty between twenty thirty,

1094
01:04:03,295 --> 01:04:05,175
Speaker 16: forty fifty and so on and so on and so

1095
01:04:05,295 --> 01:04:09,295
Speaker 16: on square. Now I went over to Stockholm and when

1096
01:04:09,295 --> 01:04:13,375
Speaker 16: I went looking for accommodation. I was looking at the

1097
01:04:13,935 --> 01:04:17,615
Speaker 16: thirty four, forty four or fifty four type without even

1098
01:04:17,695 --> 01:04:18,415
Speaker 16: blinking an eye.

1099
01:04:19,375 --> 01:04:20,495
Speaker 14: The way that they lay it.

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01:04:20,535 --> 01:04:26,775
Speaker 16: Out is quite well done. So I think that some

1101
01:04:26,935 --> 01:04:30,535
Speaker 16: people this is just my opinion, obviously, I think that

1102
01:04:30,935 --> 01:04:35,495
Speaker 16: sometimes some people weren't quite good with change. And I

1103
01:04:35,535 --> 01:04:38,975
Speaker 16: think in New Zealand we've been blessed with the larger housing.

1104
01:04:39,775 --> 01:04:43,535
Speaker 16: But I think once people try, and as you know,

1105
01:04:43,575 --> 01:04:45,015
Speaker 16: a lot of people are saying, you know, if you

1106
01:04:45,055 --> 01:04:47,175
Speaker 16: can't afford a twenty four meter square house or a

1107
01:04:47,255 --> 01:04:49,255
Speaker 16: thirty four meters square house, then probably you shouldn't be

1108
01:04:49,295 --> 01:04:50,015
Speaker 16: in the market yet.

1109
01:04:52,575 --> 01:04:57,015
Speaker 4: And look, I don't disagree with you. And always in

1110
01:04:57,055 --> 01:04:59,655
Speaker 4: the back of my mind is a concept that I

1111
01:04:59,735 --> 01:05:03,055
Speaker 4: was introduced to quite some years ago, almost when we

1112
01:05:03,135 --> 01:05:05,175
Speaker 4: started doing the show. Actually, I went to a seminar

1113
01:05:05,335 --> 01:05:09,215
Speaker 4: in the KA was talking about the housing continuum, right,

1114
01:05:09,775 --> 01:05:13,855
Speaker 4: so that our housing stock exists on a continuum, and

1115
01:05:14,015 --> 01:05:19,055
Speaker 4: the scale broadly speaking, is from full private to full

1116
01:05:19,335 --> 01:05:23,895
Speaker 4: public and a range of housing styles in between.

1117
01:05:23,975 --> 01:05:24,015
Speaker 1: That.

1118
01:05:24,215 --> 01:05:28,375
Speaker 4: So in the full private we've got the grand designs

1119
01:05:28,455 --> 01:05:31,815
Speaker 4: twenty million dollar yhiki beach house type thing, you know,

1120
01:05:32,055 --> 01:05:36,735
Speaker 4: beautiful architectural you know that sort of thing, and we

1121
01:05:36,895 --> 01:05:38,655
Speaker 4: love that. And then at the other end of the

1122
01:05:38,695 --> 01:05:42,455
Speaker 4: spectrum potentially, and this isn't a values judgment, is you know,

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01:05:43,095 --> 01:05:49,335
Speaker 4: small compact maybe state or community housing network type housing

1124
01:05:49,415 --> 01:05:53,335
Speaker 4: provisions for people that have desperate housing need right. And

1125
01:05:53,415 --> 01:05:58,975
Speaker 4: then beyond in between that continuum is things like you

1126
01:05:59,095 --> 01:06:02,255
Speaker 4: and I having a private property, and it might be

1127
01:06:02,495 --> 01:06:04,895
Speaker 4: on its own site, it might be semi detached, it

1128
01:06:05,055 --> 01:06:07,655
Speaker 4: might be an apartment, it might be a small apartment,

1129
01:06:07,695 --> 01:06:09,535
Speaker 4: it might be a large apartment, that sort of thing.

1130
01:06:09,575 --> 01:06:12,855
Speaker 4: But and so all of these types exist on this continuum,

1131
01:06:13,255 --> 01:06:15,655
Speaker 4: and I think what it is is that I think

1132
01:06:15,735 --> 01:06:17,535
Speaker 4: that all of these have a place so in the

1133
01:06:17,575 --> 01:06:21,015
Speaker 4: same way that your experience going to Stockholm is to go, actually,

1134
01:06:21,575 --> 01:06:23,615
Speaker 4: you know, I'm here, I'm here for a period of time.

1135
01:06:23,775 --> 01:06:26,695
Speaker 4: That might be just me living. I work a lot,

1136
01:06:26,815 --> 01:06:29,095
Speaker 4: I go to the gym, I've got an active social life,

1137
01:06:29,215 --> 01:06:31,495
Speaker 4: I go out to the beach on the weekend or

1138
01:06:31,535 --> 01:06:34,255
Speaker 4: something like that. Quite happy living in twenty square meters.

1139
01:06:35,895 --> 01:06:39,055
Speaker 4: But I think the counter to that might be that

1140
01:06:39,655 --> 01:06:43,295
Speaker 4: as long as that twenty square meters is of a

1141
01:06:43,455 --> 01:06:47,375
Speaker 4: reasonable quality, And I think most people's fear is that

1142
01:06:47,535 --> 01:06:51,695
Speaker 4: the twenty square meter will be literally a little shoe

1143
01:06:51,735 --> 01:06:57,415
Speaker 4: box of a thing, poorly ventilated, lack of light, feels

1144
01:06:57,495 --> 01:07:00,815
Speaker 4: like it's got no amenity. And so in that sense,

1145
01:07:00,895 --> 01:07:05,095
Speaker 4: like the Auckland urban design rules which stipulate ideal sizes

1146
01:07:05,255 --> 01:07:07,535
Speaker 4: like a bedroom shouldn't be and ten square meters, well,

1147
01:07:07,535 --> 01:07:09,295
Speaker 4: if you're building twenty square meters, you're not going to

1148
01:07:09,335 --> 01:07:10,775
Speaker 4: have a ten square meter bedroom, ay you.

1149
01:07:13,095 --> 01:07:17,095
Speaker 16: And I think it's a conscious decision by the builders

1150
01:07:17,415 --> 01:07:21,255
Speaker 16: or the construction companies to do that. But I will

1151
01:07:21,375 --> 01:07:24,415
Speaker 16: say that I had a friend over in Stockholm and

1152
01:07:24,695 --> 01:07:30,775
Speaker 16: she was able to buy a fifty fifty three square

1153
01:07:30,855 --> 01:07:35,495
Speaker 16: meter our apartment yep, and she now has one hundred

1154
01:07:35,495 --> 01:07:39,175
Speaker 16: and twenty five so it enabled her to get in

1155
01:07:39,255 --> 01:07:42,095
Speaker 16: the latter and it was gorgeous. So it was very well,

1156
01:07:42,415 --> 01:07:45,335
Speaker 16: very well set up. The Swedes were very well over there,

1157
01:07:45,335 --> 01:07:47,735
Speaker 16: and I think that you know, New Zealand going into

1158
01:07:47,815 --> 01:07:49,535
Speaker 16: this could take a lot of learning from them.

1159
01:07:50,415 --> 01:07:53,335
Speaker 4: Yeah, and look, I agree, and again it's that also

1160
01:07:53,495 --> 01:07:57,455
Speaker 4: part of that housing continuum is that we need different

1161
01:07:57,535 --> 01:07:59,975
Speaker 4: types of housing at different times in our lives. So

1162
01:08:00,095 --> 01:08:04,375
Speaker 4: I'm thinking about someone perhaps who you know, maybe mum

1163
01:08:04,455 --> 01:08:09,975
Speaker 4: and dad helped them get into an apartment. Oh exactly, Turkey,

1164
01:08:10,015 --> 01:08:15,175
Speaker 4: you just scored by the way. The well, not so

1165
01:08:15,295 --> 01:08:18,535
Speaker 4: much for me, to be fair, but anyway, so the

1166
01:08:20,095 --> 01:08:22,175
Speaker 4: you know, I'm thinking of a situation let's say where

1167
01:08:22,935 --> 01:08:27,295
Speaker 4: I mean, let's say you've finished your tertiary education, you're

1168
01:08:27,335 --> 01:08:30,055
Speaker 4: working in the city, you're working on your career, and

1169
01:08:30,495 --> 01:08:32,535
Speaker 4: literally all you do is work, hang out with your

1170
01:08:32,575 --> 01:08:34,735
Speaker 4: mates and that sort of thing. Then living in the

1171
01:08:34,815 --> 01:08:40,655
Speaker 4: city close to where you work, that could be a

1172
01:08:40,695 --> 01:08:43,375
Speaker 4: twenty or thirty square meter apartment for a couple of years,

1173
01:08:43,455 --> 01:08:47,695
Speaker 4: and then you continue to move onwards. And so in

1174
01:08:47,775 --> 01:08:50,015
Speaker 4: that sense, you know, you might find people that go, well, actually,

1175
01:08:50,055 --> 01:08:53,335
Speaker 4: I don't want to buy forty square meters because I've

1176
01:08:53,335 --> 01:08:56,495
Speaker 4: really only got enough money for twenty. But again, it

1177
01:08:56,615 --> 01:08:59,295
Speaker 4: always comes down to that as long as the quality

1178
01:08:59,415 --> 01:09:03,495
Speaker 4: is still and I think most people concern when they

1179
01:09:03,535 --> 01:09:06,055
Speaker 4: hear Chris Bishop go hey, look, twenty square meters is

1180
01:09:06,095 --> 01:09:09,255
Speaker 4: good because it's better than a car. Doesn't sound like

1181
01:09:09,375 --> 01:09:11,215
Speaker 4: he's aiming very high.

1182
01:09:12,695 --> 01:09:15,535
Speaker 16: No, yeah, no, I agree with that. I mean consciously,

1183
01:09:15,575 --> 01:09:19,415
Speaker 16: if I was building, you know, if I took an

1184
01:09:19,495 --> 01:09:22,655
Speaker 16: old building down central Hamilton, for example, there's a lot

1185
01:09:22,695 --> 01:09:25,575
Speaker 16: of dining and all that, and I wanted to convert

1186
01:09:25,615 --> 01:09:29,655
Speaker 16: it into lots of studio apartments. I consciously myself wouldn't

1187
01:09:29,695 --> 01:09:31,655
Speaker 16: build twenty square meters at all.

1188
01:09:33,655 --> 01:09:36,655
Speaker 4: But maybe what it does do is open up the possibility.

1189
01:09:36,735 --> 01:09:39,615
Speaker 4: Let's say if you were doing a change of use

1190
01:09:39,655 --> 01:09:42,135
Speaker 4: for an in a city building like that, and you

1191
01:09:42,295 --> 01:09:44,535
Speaker 4: ended up with a bunch of you know, forty to

1192
01:09:44,535 --> 01:09:46,775
Speaker 4: fifty square meter apartments, but you ended up with a

1193
01:09:46,815 --> 01:09:52,215
Speaker 4: piece of you know, the footprint of the building going Actually,

1194
01:09:52,295 --> 01:09:53,895
Speaker 4: you know what, I've ended up with a space that's

1195
01:09:53,895 --> 01:09:56,215
Speaker 4: about twenty square meters, but I can get a kitchen

1196
01:09:56,295 --> 01:09:58,615
Speaker 4: and a small bathroom in there. Then maybe you end

1197
01:09:58,735 --> 01:10:00,935
Speaker 4: up in that development with one or two of these.

1198
01:10:01,255 --> 01:10:04,455
Speaker 4: That doesn't I suppose most of us immediately think about,

1199
01:10:05,255 --> 01:10:08,695
Speaker 4: you know, a new par building going up four stories

1200
01:10:08,775 --> 01:10:11,255
Speaker 4: high or three stories high, and they're all twenty square meters,

1201
01:10:11,295 --> 01:10:14,135
Speaker 4: And suddenly, in a small patch of land down the

1202
01:10:14,175 --> 01:10:16,695
Speaker 4: back of a culder sack somewhere in a suburban street,

1203
01:10:16,735 --> 01:10:19,735
Speaker 4: you're going to get this block of fas all.

1204
01:10:19,735 --> 01:10:23,655
Speaker 18: I'm saying that if I were three hundred meters from

1205
01:10:23,655 --> 01:10:25,375
Speaker 18: my place, there's exactly one of those.

1206
01:10:26,455 --> 01:10:27,535
Speaker 12: You know, it's.

1207
01:10:29,255 --> 01:10:30,335
Speaker 4: So it's not like it's new.

1208
01:10:30,735 --> 01:10:34,095
Speaker 18: Yeah, hey, fascinating discussion. We've got to move on, Lovely

1209
01:10:34,175 --> 01:10:35,895
Speaker 18: to talk to you all the very best and.

1210
01:10:36,255 --> 01:10:38,575
Speaker 4: Just slightly envious of your time in Stockholm. Haven't been

1211
01:10:38,615 --> 01:10:40,215
Speaker 4: there yet. Went to Sweden a couple of years ago

1212
01:10:40,295 --> 01:10:42,895
Speaker 4: to stay with friends, but didn't make it all the

1213
01:10:42,935 --> 01:10:45,735
Speaker 4: way out to Stockholm. It is on my list, and

1214
01:10:45,815 --> 01:10:47,695
Speaker 4: that's a much nicer list than most of my to

1215
01:10:47,775 --> 01:10:51,095
Speaker 4: do lists, which involve things like fixing floorboards and stuff

1216
01:10:51,135 --> 01:10:54,895
Speaker 4: like that. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Yes, now,

1217
01:10:55,295 --> 01:10:57,575
Speaker 4: someone said I'm looking at sky I can't find the football.

1218
01:10:57,775 --> 01:11:00,015
Speaker 4: That's because it's on TV and Z Plus, so it's

1219
01:11:00,055 --> 01:11:02,855
Speaker 4: on the streaming service. And can I say, quite genuinely,

1220
01:11:03,655 --> 01:11:07,415
Speaker 4: I think that TVNZ Plus for this has been fantastic.

1221
01:11:07,775 --> 01:11:10,335
Speaker 4: The fact that, like yesterday, I got up at about

1222
01:11:10,455 --> 01:11:13,855
Speaker 4: five o'clock the game had started at four o'clock. This

1223
01:11:14,055 --> 01:11:17,815
Speaker 4: was the German Spain game, and I just started watching

1224
01:11:18,135 --> 01:11:20,735
Speaker 4: from the beginning of the game sort of on delay,

1225
01:11:20,815 --> 01:11:22,695
Speaker 4: which was great, or I could have watched it live,

1226
01:11:22,775 --> 01:11:26,895
Speaker 4: which was fantastic. Either way, it doesn't change the score

1227
01:11:26,975 --> 01:11:30,535
Speaker 4: right now, which is to care one Netherlands nil in

1228
01:11:30,655 --> 01:11:36,455
Speaker 4: the thirty eighth minute. Right, we'll take a break. I've

1229
01:11:36,455 --> 01:11:38,055
Speaker 4: got to process this information.

1230
01:11:38,975 --> 01:11:41,975
Speaker 1: Whether you're painting the ceiling, fixing the fence, or wondering

1231
01:11:42,055 --> 01:11:43,895
Speaker 1: how to fix that hole in the wall. You give

1232
01:11:43,975 --> 01:11:46,575
Speaker 1: Peter Wolf Cabin call on oh eight hundred eighty ten

1233
01:11:46,735 --> 01:11:50,095
Speaker 1: eighty the resident builder with light four solar flicked the

1234
01:11:50,095 --> 01:11:52,495
Speaker 1: switch to solar today, newstalks at B.

1235
01:11:53,535 --> 01:11:55,535
Speaker 4: You a new talk set B. We're taking your calls.

1236
01:11:55,575 --> 01:11:57,175
Speaker 4: And Andrea, a very good morning to you.

1237
01:11:58,335 --> 01:11:59,415
Speaker 19: Good morning, how are you morning?

1238
01:11:59,615 --> 01:12:00,295
Speaker 4: Very well? Thank you?

1239
01:12:01,935 --> 01:12:07,095
Speaker 19: Just wondering I built a sixty five square meter cottage

1240
01:12:07,535 --> 01:12:11,695
Speaker 19: and our products of the other eighteen months ago. Yep,

1241
01:12:13,815 --> 01:12:17,655
Speaker 19: it's a mono pitch house. And we've got a problem

1242
01:12:17,735 --> 01:12:18,855
Speaker 19: with weeping windows.

1243
01:12:19,815 --> 01:12:20,255
Speaker 4: Oh yep.

1244
01:12:21,215 --> 01:12:24,415
Speaker 19: So we didn't put any ventilation systems or anything, and

1245
01:12:24,535 --> 01:12:28,775
Speaker 19: that when we're Belta, yep, we believed that being double

1246
01:12:28,815 --> 01:12:30,935
Speaker 19: gazed and everything, you wouldn't have a problem with that

1247
01:12:31,095 --> 01:12:37,095
Speaker 19: sort of carry on anymore. Do you know any good

1248
01:12:37,215 --> 01:12:40,975
Speaker 19: ventilation systems that we could perhaps add to the property

1249
01:12:41,655 --> 01:12:42,535
Speaker 19: to prevent it?

1250
01:12:43,575 --> 01:12:48,655
Speaker 4: Yeah, Now, I mean sixty five square meters is not

1251
01:12:48,775 --> 01:12:51,775
Speaker 4: that small. I mean and good on you for doing

1252
01:12:51,855 --> 01:12:54,535
Speaker 4: something like that. Again, I've made reference a couple of

1253
01:12:54,575 --> 01:12:56,575
Speaker 4: times to a property that I've been working on this week,

1254
01:12:56,655 --> 01:12:59,815
Speaker 4: which is fifty square meter, so it's two bedrooms, it's

1255
01:12:59,855 --> 01:13:03,655
Speaker 4: got a small compact bathroom, you know, kitchen, living area

1256
01:13:03,655 --> 01:13:05,575
Speaker 4: and that sort of thing. So sixty and this, I

1257
01:13:05,615 --> 01:13:08,015
Speaker 4: suppose why we're all kind of focused on sixty square

1258
01:13:08,055 --> 01:13:12,215
Speaker 4: meters at the moment, is around again this proposal to

1259
01:13:13,135 --> 01:13:17,135
Speaker 4: allow people to build a granny flat and to do

1260
01:13:17,295 --> 01:13:20,975
Speaker 4: so without necessarily requiring a building consent. So for your

1261
01:13:21,095 --> 01:13:23,855
Speaker 4: sixty five square meter cottage that was built on this

1262
01:13:24,015 --> 01:13:26,815
Speaker 4: little patch of land, did it have a building consent?

1263
01:13:27,775 --> 01:13:27,895
Speaker 3: Oh?

1264
01:13:28,015 --> 01:13:28,175
Speaker 6: Yes?

1265
01:13:28,335 --> 01:13:28,615
Speaker 8: Okay?

1266
01:13:30,495 --> 01:13:33,535
Speaker 4: And in the building, so is there extraction, for example,

1267
01:13:33,615 --> 01:13:34,295
Speaker 4: in the bathroom?

1268
01:13:35,295 --> 01:13:35,495
Speaker 11: Yes?

1269
01:13:35,815 --> 01:13:38,415
Speaker 4: Okay, so there's an extract in the bathroom. What about

1270
01:13:38,455 --> 01:13:39,735
Speaker 4: in the laundry area.

1271
01:13:40,655 --> 01:13:45,255
Speaker 19: Well, the laundry in the bathroom, right, okay, there's no

1272
01:13:45,455 --> 01:13:46,815
Speaker 19: no dryer or anything in there.

1273
01:13:47,015 --> 01:13:47,215
Speaker 11: Yep.

1274
01:13:48,295 --> 01:13:49,655
Speaker 4: What sort of heating do you use?

1275
01:13:51,735 --> 01:13:52,695
Speaker 5: A heat pump?

1276
01:13:53,055 --> 01:13:56,415
Speaker 4: Okay? Now, some of the modern heat pumps have like

1277
01:13:56,535 --> 01:13:59,935
Speaker 4: a dehumidifier function on them as well, so you might

1278
01:14:00,015 --> 01:14:04,655
Speaker 4: need to try yeah, no, joy, okay, nice noice and

1279
01:14:04,735 --> 01:14:07,255
Speaker 4: I'm guessing that the when windows that you've got while

1280
01:14:07,255 --> 01:14:11,215
Speaker 4: they're the glazing is double glazed, is the aluminum thermally

1281
01:14:11,295 --> 01:14:16,335
Speaker 4: broken or standard aluminium frames that would it would be standard? Okay,

1282
01:14:17,175 --> 01:14:24,295
Speaker 4: that might be contributing in part to the condensation. Ventilation

1283
01:14:24,415 --> 01:14:26,775
Speaker 4: will be important. There are a couple of quite good

1284
01:14:28,535 --> 01:14:32,815
Speaker 4: in wall systems, so they're essentially like a trickle ventilation

1285
01:14:34,095 --> 01:14:36,095
Speaker 4: where you can have one at either end of the

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01:14:36,175 --> 01:14:39,135
Speaker 4: building and they are linked to each other. They can

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01:14:39,215 --> 01:14:42,735
Speaker 4: talk to each other so that allows airflow, so they

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01:14:42,855 --> 01:14:47,495
Speaker 4: monitor temperature inside and outside and regulate airflow as required.

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Speaker 4: Off the top of my head, if you search for

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01:14:55,255 --> 01:15:00,815
Speaker 4: in wall ventilation and through wall ventilation kits, you'll find

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01:15:00,855 --> 01:15:03,255
Speaker 4: some information there and that that will go a long

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01:15:03,335 --> 01:15:04,455
Speaker 4: way to helping you with that.

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01:15:05,775 --> 01:15:07,455
Speaker 19: Okay, Yeah, so are they quiet?

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01:15:08,855 --> 01:15:11,615
Speaker 4: Look, everything that's got a motor makes a noise, right,

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01:15:13,015 --> 01:15:17,295
Speaker 4: So yes, they're reasonably quiet, but you'll still have you'll

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01:15:17,375 --> 01:15:19,535
Speaker 4: know when it's on. I think I don't think it'll

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01:15:19,535 --> 01:15:21,735
Speaker 4: be distracting, but undoubtedly you'll know when it's on.

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Speaker 19: All right, that sounds good?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And yeah, ventilation will be the key there. If

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01:15:30,695 --> 01:15:33,015
Speaker 4: you've done a reasonable job of insulation in the walls,

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01:15:33,135 --> 01:15:35,455
Speaker 4: or if it's compliant with the building code as it

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01:15:35,615 --> 01:15:38,775
Speaker 4: was at the time. You've got the double glazing, which

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01:15:38,855 --> 01:15:42,735
Speaker 4: is great. It'll be about ventilation and do you keep like,

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01:15:43,095 --> 01:15:45,615
Speaker 4: do you allow the temperature in the room to drop

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01:15:45,735 --> 01:15:48,855
Speaker 4: overnight or do you maintain does your heat pump, let's say,

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01:15:48,935 --> 01:15:51,215
Speaker 4: keep the house at eighteen or nineteen degrees overnight?

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01:15:52,135 --> 01:15:55,135
Speaker 19: Well, we just have it run as an airbnb.

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Speaker 4: I see, Okay, so I think that's the problem.

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01:15:58,255 --> 01:15:59,895
Speaker 19: A lot of people will come and they'll put the

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01:15:59,975 --> 01:16:04,615
Speaker 19: heat pump on twenty five degrees and possibly leave it

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01:16:04,695 --> 01:16:08,615
Speaker 19: on all night and not really yep, and then when

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01:16:08,655 --> 01:16:12,135
Speaker 19: they move out in the morning, the house saturated.

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01:16:12,335 --> 01:16:12,535
Speaker 11: Yeah.

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01:16:13,175 --> 01:16:15,855
Speaker 4: Yeah, it'll be about and in that sense, putting in

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01:16:15,895 --> 01:16:20,695
Speaker 4: a ventilation system that doesn't require input from the occupant

1316
01:16:20,815 --> 01:16:23,695
Speaker 4: is quite good, you know what I mean that it's

1317
01:16:23,735 --> 01:16:25,295
Speaker 4: a sort of set and forget and you just tell

1318
01:16:25,375 --> 01:16:29,415
Speaker 4: people I've programmed it all. You don't change anything that

1319
01:16:29,455 --> 01:16:31,655
Speaker 4: will help. And you're right, you know. One of the

1320
01:16:31,735 --> 01:16:33,855
Speaker 4: issues with their houses is we don't often open them

1321
01:16:33,935 --> 01:16:36,215
Speaker 4: up during the day. So again, if it's locked up,

1322
01:16:36,375 --> 01:16:39,935
Speaker 4: then yes, all of that moisture will be trapped inside, right,

1323
01:16:41,095 --> 01:16:44,935
Speaker 4: You might also find, because it's a relatively new build,

1324
01:16:45,375 --> 01:16:48,455
Speaker 4: there is a thing where houses are often quite saturated

1325
01:16:48,535 --> 01:16:53,055
Speaker 4: with moisture as they're constructed, and for a period of

1326
01:16:53,135 --> 01:16:58,135
Speaker 4: time afterwards, the actual building itself, you know, the materials

1327
01:16:58,215 --> 01:17:00,175
Speaker 4: inside it, the timber, framing and that sort of thing

1328
01:17:00,615 --> 01:17:05,775
Speaker 4: will be releasing moisture. So you might find that even

1329
01:17:05,855 --> 01:17:09,895
Speaker 4: without the intervention the problem will diminish over time. But

1330
01:17:10,055 --> 01:17:12,055
Speaker 4: at the same time, having some inflation would be a

1331
01:17:12,095 --> 01:17:12,695
Speaker 4: great idea.

1332
01:17:13,455 --> 01:17:17,895
Speaker 19: Yeah, because demid a fire and there recently when there's

1333
01:17:17,935 --> 01:17:19,415
Speaker 19: nobody there and there's no water.

1334
01:17:20,295 --> 01:17:24,655
Speaker 4: Okay, Oh that's good to here. Yes, that's purely from occupants.

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01:17:25,615 --> 01:17:27,495
Speaker 14: Yeah, good luck with that.

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01:17:27,895 --> 01:17:30,015
Speaker 4: All the very best you Andrew, You take care. Glennus.

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01:17:30,055 --> 01:17:32,375
Speaker 5: Hello there, how are you going to bother?

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01:17:32,455 --> 01:17:32,495
Speaker 20: You?

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01:17:34,095 --> 01:17:35,135
Speaker 5: Just turn my head off.

1340
01:17:36,455 --> 01:17:36,735
Speaker 11: It's it.

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01:17:37,495 --> 01:17:39,855
Speaker 5: I'm living in one of the old style houses those

1342
01:17:39,895 --> 01:17:42,335
Speaker 5: once I used to build and build in nineteen fifty,

1343
01:17:42,415 --> 01:17:47,495
Speaker 5: the old prefab type. Ye put drapes and only come

1344
01:17:47,575 --> 01:17:51,295
Speaker 5: to the window sill. Yes, a concrete floor in the

1345
01:17:51,375 --> 01:17:55,495
Speaker 5: lounge which is open planned cull it, carpet, nothing underneath

1346
01:17:55,535 --> 01:18:02,335
Speaker 5: it cold. At the moment, I'm sort of shaking. Nothing

1347
01:18:02,375 --> 01:18:05,215
Speaker 5: in the walls. The house is built on the ground,

1348
01:18:05,295 --> 01:18:07,295
Speaker 5: but you can't go under the house because it's built

1349
01:18:07,375 --> 01:18:10,175
Speaker 5: on the ground on the garden right to the bottom

1350
01:18:10,215 --> 01:18:16,255
Speaker 5: of the garden. Yep, heat pump, it's pretty a conditioner

1351
01:18:16,375 --> 01:18:20,015
Speaker 5: on it, and it's right by the front door, so

1352
01:18:20,135 --> 01:18:21,935
Speaker 5: when you open the door to get fresh air, you

1353
01:18:22,055 --> 01:18:24,015
Speaker 5: can't have a heat pump and the front door open.

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01:18:26,415 --> 01:18:32,975
Speaker 5: It's like living in a tunnel here. I've told them, oh, nothing, nothing, nothing.

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01:18:33,855 --> 01:18:37,895
Speaker 5: Then the powder was two hundred and eighty five. It's

1356
01:18:37,935 --> 01:18:40,135
Speaker 5: a lot of and I feel the cold because I've

1357
01:18:40,135 --> 01:18:43,655
Speaker 5: got skin cancer as well. And I said to them,

1358
01:18:43,775 --> 01:18:47,495
Speaker 5: can they put insulation in the ceiling? But I don't know.

1359
01:18:47,615 --> 01:18:49,935
Speaker 5: The house is just still cold. It could be the

1360
01:18:50,335 --> 01:18:52,295
Speaker 5: even with the heater going, it's still cold.

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01:18:53,975 --> 01:18:54,175
Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 4: Man at this time of year where you know, currently

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01:18:56,695 --> 01:19:00,615
Speaker 4: it's about four degrees yeah, five and a half degrees outside.

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01:19:00,655 --> 01:19:03,295
Speaker 4: It probably would have dropped down to about four degrees overnight.

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01:19:05,175 --> 01:19:10,215
Speaker 5: Sorry, I've got wool carpet which is warmer upstairs, but

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01:19:10,455 --> 01:19:14,855
Speaker 5: having this acrylic carpet it's cold. Yeah, because it's just

1367
01:19:14,935 --> 01:19:16,055
Speaker 5: sitting on the concrete.

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01:19:16,335 --> 01:19:19,615
Speaker 4: That's right. And given the age of construction, it won't

1369
01:19:19,655 --> 01:19:22,175
Speaker 4: have a vapor barrier underneath the concrete, I think.

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01:19:22,255 --> 01:19:24,095
Speaker 5: So, you know, I'm going to take them to court

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01:19:24,135 --> 01:19:26,215
Speaker 5: and I'm going to say get this house fix within

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01:19:26,335 --> 01:19:29,135
Speaker 5: fourteen days as would take it to a courthouse.

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01:19:29,615 --> 01:19:32,015
Speaker 4: To be fair, they don't need to, right, So if

1374
01:19:32,095 --> 01:19:35,655
Speaker 4: you're renting it, there is no there is requirements to

1375
01:19:35,735 --> 01:19:40,455
Speaker 4: comply with the Healthy Homes legislation. But for example, concrete slab,

1376
01:19:41,775 --> 01:19:44,855
Speaker 4: it's not it's not practical to insulate a concrete slab

1377
01:19:44,935 --> 01:19:48,375
Speaker 4: that's already there, so no, and there is no requirement

1378
01:19:48,415 --> 01:19:53,255
Speaker 4: within the Healthy Homes legislation to retrofit insulation into steering walls.

1379
01:19:53,815 --> 01:19:56,095
Speaker 5: So get another carpet on top of this one and

1380
01:19:56,175 --> 01:19:58,495
Speaker 5: buying one myself, and just get another rug, you know,

1381
01:19:58,815 --> 01:20:04,055
Speaker 5: something like that, and have thick raps, the thick of

1382
01:20:04,135 --> 01:20:05,495
Speaker 5: the floor, the warmer the floor.

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01:20:06,495 --> 01:20:08,855
Speaker 4: Look, that would help. And you know, if you were

1384
01:20:08,855 --> 01:20:10,975
Speaker 4: the owner occupy, there'd be a bunch of things that

1385
01:20:11,055 --> 01:20:12,855
Speaker 4: you might be able to do. But if you're a

1386
01:20:13,295 --> 01:20:17,775
Speaker 4: sitting tenant in an existing rental, and I presume do

1387
01:20:17,935 --> 01:20:20,095
Speaker 4: you have a healthy home certificate for the property?

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01:20:20,175 --> 01:20:20,215
Speaker 13: No?

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01:20:20,495 --> 01:20:24,335
Speaker 4: No, nothing, Okay, again, that will be something that you

1390
01:20:24,415 --> 01:20:27,535
Speaker 4: will probably your landlord will need to provide but only

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01:20:27,735 --> 01:20:30,735
Speaker 4: from next year as of right. But if you renewed

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01:20:30,775 --> 01:20:34,655
Speaker 4: the tenancy even that you won't need one right now. Look,

1393
01:20:34,735 --> 01:20:37,055
Speaker 4: you can try tendancy services, but I think that the

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01:20:37,135 --> 01:20:40,935
Speaker 4: property probably complies. Unfortunately as it is. Good luck with

1395
01:20:41,015 --> 01:20:43,455
Speaker 4: that glenness Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty give us

1396
01:20:43,495 --> 01:20:43,735
Speaker 4: a call.

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01:20:44,935 --> 01:20:48,815
Speaker 1: Squeaky door or squeaky floor, get the right advice from

1398
01:20:48,935 --> 01:20:52,775
Speaker 1: Peter Wolfcare the resident builder with light fource, solar, save

1399
01:20:52,895 --> 01:20:55,975
Speaker 1: on solar and earn airpoints dollars used. Talk ZEDB.

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01:20:56,655 --> 01:20:58,695
Speaker 4: Your news talk is z B. If you've got a

1401
01:20:58,775 --> 01:21:00,855
Speaker 4: question of a building nature, we can take your calls

1402
01:21:00,935 --> 01:21:02,615
Speaker 4: right now. We can take the calls now and we'll

1403
01:21:02,655 --> 01:21:09,095
Speaker 4: talk immediately after the break. Fascinating looking at the text

1404
01:21:09,175 --> 01:21:13,615
Speaker 4: as well with regard to the rentals, and I guess

1405
01:21:15,015 --> 01:21:18,895
Speaker 4: what's reflective is that it is actually a vastly complex

1406
01:21:19,095 --> 01:21:22,895
Speaker 4: issue in terms of you know, we've got houses where

1407
01:21:23,015 --> 01:21:25,655
Speaker 4: landlords potentially are going I don't want to comply with

1408
01:21:25,735 --> 01:21:28,295
Speaker 4: the healthy Homes legislation. The house isn't that bad. I

1409
01:21:28,415 --> 01:21:31,375
Speaker 4: just can't be bothered putting in a heat pump, for example,

1410
01:21:32,015 --> 01:21:34,215
Speaker 4: or another fixed form of heating or I'm not going

1411
01:21:34,255 --> 01:21:36,535
Speaker 4: to do the insulation on the underfloor, so technically I'm

1412
01:21:36,575 --> 01:21:39,615
Speaker 4: non compliant, and so I'm going to leave the house

1413
01:21:39,655 --> 01:21:44,335
Speaker 4: empty at a time when we need more housing. Should

1414
01:21:44,375 --> 01:21:46,855
Speaker 4: there be an opportunity for landlords to go Actually, you know,

1415
01:21:47,495 --> 01:21:49,535
Speaker 4: if I found a tenant who's quite happy to live

1416
01:21:49,575 --> 01:21:52,415
Speaker 4: in a property that's not compliant, why shouldn't we come

1417
01:21:52,455 --> 01:21:56,095
Speaker 4: to our own agreement and arrangement and let the market decide.

1418
01:21:57,055 --> 01:21:58,895
Speaker 4: Flip side of that is listening to people who are

1419
01:21:58,935 --> 01:22:03,295
Speaker 4: in rental properties that are cold, poorly insulated, poorly heated,

1420
01:22:03,815 --> 01:22:07,855
Speaker 4: and unhealthy spaces to live in. A couple of texts

1421
01:22:07,895 --> 01:22:10,175
Speaker 4: on that as well. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty

1422
01:22:10,295 --> 01:22:11,895
Speaker 4: is the number to call if you've got a question

1423
01:22:11,935 --> 01:22:13,775
Speaker 4: of the building nature. Gives a call, we'll get things

1424
01:22:13,815 --> 01:22:16,855
Speaker 4: set up. We'll talk straight after the news, which will

1425
01:22:16,895 --> 01:22:20,095
Speaker 4: also be the second half of the Netherlands MTK match

1426
01:22:20,295 --> 01:22:21,855
Speaker 4: where two he is leading one nill.

1427
01:22:21,975 --> 01:22:24,615
Speaker 1: Right now, I need to go and get us out

1428
01:22:25,895 --> 01:22:29,815
Speaker 1: helping you get those DIY projects done right the resident

1429
01:22:29,895 --> 01:22:33,455
Speaker 1: builder with Peter Wolfcap and light Force Solar get your

1430
01:22:33,575 --> 01:22:35,815
Speaker 1: solar saver pack now news talks.

1431
01:22:35,855 --> 01:22:39,095
Speaker 4: It'd be right o, folks, welcome back. We're into it.

1432
01:22:39,375 --> 01:22:43,535
Speaker 4: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty. We're talking all things building, construction, housing,

1433
01:22:44,175 --> 01:22:48,055
Speaker 4: a little bit of discussion around on the political front,

1434
01:22:48,135 --> 01:22:51,655
Speaker 4: let's say, around announcements by the Housing Minister, which is

1435
01:22:52,335 --> 01:22:55,935
Speaker 4: Chris Bishop. I'm presume it's okay to call them Chris Bishop.

1436
01:22:55,935 --> 01:22:58,735
Speaker 4: I don't need to call them Christopher Bishop. I'm guessing. Uh,

1437
01:22:59,615 --> 01:23:01,375
Speaker 4: that's an old joke. Sorry. It goes back to something

1438
01:23:01,375 --> 01:23:04,695
Speaker 4: at the beginning of the show. So Chris Bishop started

1439
01:23:04,735 --> 01:23:08,135
Speaker 4: to talk about changes to planninglegilation, which would mean, for example,

1440
01:23:08,215 --> 01:23:11,775
Speaker 4: that there's no minimum sizes. If a developer wants to

1441
01:23:11,895 --> 01:23:16,255
Speaker 4: create some apartments that are twenty square meters, then theoretically

1442
01:23:16,975 --> 01:23:20,055
Speaker 4: that will be possible. I did have a brief discussion

1443
01:23:20,175 --> 01:23:22,895
Speaker 4: via email with Hamish Firth, who's a planner who's been

1444
01:23:22,935 --> 01:23:26,295
Speaker 4: on this program quite a bit. We'll probably get him

1445
01:23:26,335 --> 01:23:27,775
Speaker 4: on next week. He wanted to come on this week

1446
01:23:27,855 --> 01:23:29,215
Speaker 4: and I said, look, to be fair, I'm going to

1447
01:23:29,255 --> 01:23:31,295
Speaker 4: be a little bit distracted watching the football. Let's talk

1448
01:23:31,295 --> 01:23:33,975
Speaker 4: about it next week. And I am just vaguely distracted

1449
01:23:34,015 --> 01:23:37,015
Speaker 4: by the football because my beloved Netherlands are trailing to

1450
01:23:37,175 --> 01:23:40,415
Speaker 4: Kaya at the stage just one nill. It's just the

1451
01:23:40,535 --> 01:23:45,415
Speaker 4: beginning of the second half, right, I'll keep an eye

1452
01:23:45,495 --> 01:23:49,655
Speaker 4: on that. Speaking of Dutchman, the Great Red Client Pass

1453
01:23:49,695 --> 01:23:51,855
Speaker 4: will join us and we'll get into the garden at

1454
01:23:51,975 --> 01:23:54,295
Speaker 4: eight point thirty this morning as well. So if you've

1455
01:23:54,295 --> 01:23:57,855
Speaker 4: got some gardening questions, hold fire. We'll get rid up

1456
01:23:57,975 --> 01:24:00,095
Speaker 4: at around eight thirty this morning. But right now it

1457
01:24:00,215 --> 01:24:04,055
Speaker 4: is building questions. So we've been talking about bearing and bracing.

1458
01:24:04,135 --> 01:24:07,775
Speaker 4: We've been talking about the homes. We've been talking about

1459
01:24:08,095 --> 01:24:11,295
Speaker 4: the impact I guess of trees as well. Interestingly enough,

1460
01:24:11,575 --> 01:24:15,415
Speaker 4: in one case, it was our first caller, Leoni, who

1461
01:24:15,495 --> 01:24:18,055
Speaker 4: was saying, the tree is there and it's actually moving

1462
01:24:18,255 --> 01:24:20,255
Speaker 4: the house. What can I do about that? And it

1463
01:24:20,375 --> 01:24:23,015
Speaker 4: seems that she was reluctant to have the tree cut

1464
01:24:23,055 --> 01:24:25,055
Speaker 4: down or felt that it was protected or that it

1465
01:24:25,135 --> 01:24:27,135
Speaker 4: was on a council reserve. So that's got to be

1466
01:24:27,175 --> 01:24:28,935
Speaker 4: part of that process that've got to be able to

1467
01:24:28,935 --> 01:24:32,055
Speaker 4: get rid of that. We've also been talking about sort

1468
01:24:32,055 --> 01:24:35,215
Speaker 4: of international models for housing as well, living overseas and

1469
01:24:35,295 --> 01:24:37,775
Speaker 4: many of us, many of you, I haven't actually lived

1470
01:24:37,935 --> 01:24:41,655
Speaker 4: that long overseas at all, but compact apartments, inner city

1471
01:24:41,695 --> 01:24:44,935
Speaker 4: apartments are part of the way of life, part of

1472
01:24:44,975 --> 01:24:50,535
Speaker 4: the hustle and bustle for living in large cosmopolitan centers

1473
01:24:50,575 --> 01:24:53,455
Speaker 4: around the world. Can we replicate the sort of the

1474
01:24:53,575 --> 01:24:57,415
Speaker 4: same thing here. You may care to offer up a

1475
01:24:57,455 --> 01:24:59,455
Speaker 4: comment or an opinion on that. Oh, eight hundred and

1476
01:24:59,535 --> 01:25:03,015
Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Someone's just

1477
01:25:03,175 --> 01:25:06,975
Speaker 4: text through Jill Hey Pete. Cold, damp, mold homes also

1478
01:25:07,055 --> 01:25:09,175
Speaker 4: put pressure on our health system and contribute to sick

1479
01:25:09,255 --> 01:25:13,015
Speaker 4: days from employers and load productivity. I one hundred percent

1480
01:25:13,055 --> 01:25:15,095
Speaker 4: agree with you, and I think that's where we need

1481
01:25:15,175 --> 01:25:20,135
Speaker 4: to understand where the drive for better quality housing is

1482
01:25:20,175 --> 01:25:23,615
Speaker 4: coming from. And ultimately it's twofold, isn't it. One is

1483
01:25:23,775 --> 01:25:27,775
Speaker 4: around health because we know that poor living conditions contribute

1484
01:25:27,895 --> 01:25:34,815
Speaker 4: massively to health costs. In fact, gosh, it would have

1485
01:25:34,855 --> 01:25:39,335
Speaker 4: been fifteen odd years ago there used to be much

1486
01:25:39,575 --> 01:25:43,535
Speaker 4: wider subsidies for the retrofitting of insulation to existing properties.

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01:25:43,735 --> 01:25:46,575
Speaker 4: So for a period of time it wasn't means tested

1488
01:25:46,735 --> 01:25:50,335
Speaker 4: at all, So anyone could apply for a subsidy for insulation,

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01:25:51,015 --> 01:25:54,135
Speaker 4: and one of the metrics for determining is this a

1490
01:25:54,215 --> 01:25:57,575
Speaker 4: good investment of If the government's going to subsidize anyone

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01:25:57,735 --> 01:26:00,535
Speaker 4: to put insulation in their property. What's the benefit for

1492
01:26:00,695 --> 01:26:03,135
Speaker 4: the government. Well, it seems like for every dollar that

1493
01:26:03,295 --> 01:26:07,015
Speaker 4: was spent on insulation, like increasing the warmth of properties,

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01:26:08,535 --> 01:26:12,575
Speaker 4: there was a net seven dollars benefit in terms of

1495
01:26:12,695 --> 01:26:18,335
Speaker 4: reduced healthcare. So why wouldn't you promote inslation? In fact,

1496
01:26:18,375 --> 01:26:22,015
Speaker 4: talking with ECA, the number of completely uninsulated houses in

1497
01:26:22,055 --> 01:26:25,735
Speaker 4: New Zealand has in fact dropped quite considerably over the years,

1498
01:26:25,815 --> 01:26:28,775
Speaker 4: partly as a result of that subsidy, partly as a

1499
01:26:28,815 --> 01:26:32,055
Speaker 4: renewal of housing stock, maybe partly because of the introduction

1500
01:26:32,335 --> 01:26:36,375
Speaker 4: of healthy home standards for rental properties, et cetera, et cetera.

1501
01:26:36,655 --> 01:26:38,255
Speaker 4: You may have a comment on that, Oh, eight hundred

1502
01:26:38,295 --> 01:26:40,935
Speaker 4: and eighty ten eighty is that number to call? We're

1503
01:26:40,975 --> 01:26:46,055
Speaker 4: talking all things building, construction, new ideas, new products. Will

1504
01:26:46,095 --> 01:26:48,335
Speaker 4: that also become part of the government. Well, it has

1505
01:26:48,455 --> 01:26:51,215
Speaker 4: become part of the government's initiative, is to say. And

1506
01:26:51,335 --> 01:26:56,735
Speaker 4: I was listening to Christopher Luxen talking with here on

1507
01:26:56,815 --> 01:27:00,095
Speaker 4: zb during the week with Kerry Woodham the interview talking about, Look,

1508
01:27:00,135 --> 01:27:03,255
Speaker 4: it's expensive to build in New Zealand. Our building products

1509
01:27:03,295 --> 01:27:08,655
Speaker 4: themselves are expensive, So will we allow the importation of

1510
01:27:09,255 --> 01:27:14,615
Speaker 4: building products from similar jurisdictions to ours, Western Europe or

1511
01:27:14,695 --> 01:27:17,935
Speaker 4: most of Europe, let's say Australia, the United States and

1512
01:27:17,975 --> 01:27:20,295
Speaker 4: so on. Where if a building product has already been

1513
01:27:20,375 --> 01:27:23,935
Speaker 4: tested for use there, why do we need to retest

1514
01:27:24,015 --> 01:27:26,175
Speaker 4: it for use in New Zealand. So that will open

1515
01:27:26,295 --> 01:27:29,615
Speaker 4: up some competition for building products and hopefully drive down

1516
01:27:29,695 --> 01:27:32,095
Speaker 4: the cost of housing as well. Whether it does or not,

1517
01:27:32,255 --> 01:27:34,415
Speaker 4: I'm not absolutely sure, but at least it's a step

1518
01:27:34,455 --> 01:27:37,415
Speaker 4: in the right direction. Your comments. Eight hundred eighty ten

1519
01:27:37,455 --> 01:27:39,255
Speaker 4: eighty is the number to call if you've got a

1520
01:27:39,495 --> 01:27:41,815
Speaker 4: question of a building nature. The lines are open for

1521
01:27:41,935 --> 01:27:44,535
Speaker 4: you right now. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

1522
01:27:44,615 --> 01:27:45,215
Speaker 4: the number to call.

1523
01:27:45,655 --> 01:27:50,655
Speaker 1: Measure twice, god once, but maybe Collpete first. Peter wolf Camp,

1524
01:27:50,815 --> 01:27:53,855
Speaker 1: the resident builder with light four solar, It flick the

1525
01:27:53,895 --> 01:27:56,375
Speaker 1: switch to solar today used TALKS'B.

1526
01:27:57,575 --> 01:27:59,895
Speaker 4: You're with News Talks B Peop wolf Camp with you

1527
01:28:00,055 --> 01:28:03,535
Speaker 4: this morning talking all things building construction. Remember at around

1528
01:28:03,575 --> 01:28:05,255
Speaker 4: eight point thirty will jump into the garden with a

1529
01:28:05,615 --> 01:28:08,535
Speaker 4: cline past as well, So if you've got some gardening

1530
01:28:08,615 --> 01:28:12,175
Speaker 4: or entomological questions then you can reach out to Rid

1531
01:28:12,415 --> 01:28:14,895
Speaker 4: From eight point thirty this morning. Oh eight hundred and

1532
01:28:14,935 --> 01:28:17,735
Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty, though, is the number to call a

1533
01:28:17,815 --> 01:28:21,695
Speaker 4: lot of discussion, and it does. It kind of becomes

1534
01:28:21,735 --> 01:28:25,855
Speaker 4: a political and social issue, doesn't it around housing Someone's

1535
01:28:26,575 --> 01:28:31,615
Speaker 4: text through Pete. I've noticed my children and grandchildren always

1536
01:28:31,695 --> 01:28:34,455
Speaker 4: have colts. They live in new homes which are always warm.

1537
01:28:34,535 --> 01:28:37,255
Speaker 4: I live in a nineteen sixties home. I open my

1538
01:28:37,335 --> 01:28:40,335
Speaker 4: windows instead of a ventilation system. I burn a wood

1539
01:28:40,415 --> 01:28:41,935
Speaker 4: fire instead of a heat pump, and I wear a

1540
01:28:42,015 --> 01:28:45,095
Speaker 4: jersey and I never get sick too much mamby pamby

1541
01:28:45,135 --> 01:28:47,135
Speaker 4: stuff these days. And it doesn't seem to make people

1542
01:28:47,255 --> 01:28:51,095
Speaker 4: healthier from what I see, and look, I get where

1543
01:28:51,135 --> 01:28:55,935
Speaker 4: you're coming from, which I really genuinely do. But all

1544
01:28:56,015 --> 01:28:59,815
Speaker 4: of the evidence, and we're talking longitudinal studies done by,

1545
01:29:00,095 --> 01:29:04,815
Speaker 4: for example, the Otaga Medical School based out of Victoria University,

1546
01:29:05,455 --> 01:29:09,895
Speaker 4: is there, and it's it's data driven. People that live

1547
01:29:09,975 --> 01:29:13,655
Speaker 4: in cold, damp homes have worse health outcomes than people

1548
01:29:13,695 --> 01:29:19,015
Speaker 4: that live in well ventilated, warm, dry, comfortable homes. And

1549
01:29:19,295 --> 01:29:21,655
Speaker 4: I'm going to go with the science. Oh eight hundred

1550
01:29:21,735 --> 01:29:23,615
Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Helga. Good

1551
01:29:23,655 --> 01:29:24,135
Speaker 4: morning to you.

1552
01:29:25,095 --> 01:29:26,055
Speaker 15: Oh hi, how are you.

1553
01:29:27,575 --> 01:29:27,775
Speaker 6: Good?

1554
01:29:27,895 --> 01:29:28,095
Speaker 16: Good?

1555
01:29:28,335 --> 01:29:32,455
Speaker 15: Just a suggestion for the lady with the heat pump. Yeah,

1556
01:29:33,175 --> 01:29:36,975
Speaker 15: moisture in the house. We've built a brand new house,

1557
01:29:37,375 --> 01:29:38,055
Speaker 15: double glaze.

1558
01:29:38,135 --> 01:29:39,055
Speaker 6: It was four years old.

1559
01:29:39,135 --> 01:29:42,575
Speaker 15: We've golden now. And I used to have that problem

1560
01:29:43,175 --> 01:29:46,535
Speaker 15: with condensation on the window. And then I read online

1561
01:29:46,615 --> 01:29:48,855
Speaker 15: when you get up in the morning, open every window

1562
01:29:48,935 --> 01:29:51,215
Speaker 15: in the house for about ten minutes. So I did

1563
01:29:51,295 --> 01:29:51,655
Speaker 15: that when I.

1564
01:29:51,695 --> 01:29:52,175
Speaker 11: Got up.

1565
01:29:54,055 --> 01:29:54,975
Speaker 4: And did that help.

1566
01:29:55,895 --> 01:29:58,735
Speaker 15: Yeah, But I would suggest to her, don't have it

1567
01:29:58,855 --> 01:30:02,295
Speaker 15: on all night, have it set so she it can

1568
01:30:02,375 --> 01:30:04,575
Speaker 15: be put on, say an hour or half an hour

1569
01:30:04,615 --> 01:30:11,535
Speaker 15: before she gets up, right, yep, yeah, yeah, it's.

1570
01:30:11,495 --> 01:30:12,255
Speaker 5: Just a suggestion.

1571
01:30:12,655 --> 01:30:15,055
Speaker 4: Yeah, And look, I think ventilation is really key to

1572
01:30:15,175 --> 01:30:17,535
Speaker 4: how our houses perform, and it's it's certainly one of

1573
01:30:17,615 --> 01:30:20,495
Speaker 4: the challenges now as our as modern houses get more

1574
01:30:20,535 --> 01:30:23,255
Speaker 4: and more air tight, which is a good thing, by

1575
01:30:23,295 --> 01:30:26,095
Speaker 4: the way, then we also need to make sure that

1576
01:30:26,175 --> 01:30:30,055
Speaker 4: there's ventilation. But yeah, kind of. I mean, actually, I

1577
01:30:30,135 --> 01:30:33,175
Speaker 4: was working on another property this week and noticed a

1578
01:30:33,775 --> 01:30:37,255
Speaker 4: unit where you know, it was just like dripping wet

1579
01:30:37,455 --> 01:30:40,495
Speaker 4: down the windows in the morning, and I was thinking, gosh,

1580
01:30:40,575 --> 01:30:44,815
Speaker 4: that can't be a great environment to live in. So

1581
01:30:45,215 --> 01:30:46,095
Speaker 4: might if to ever look.

1582
01:30:45,935 --> 01:30:48,895
Speaker 15: At that one as well, and she could wipe it

1583
01:30:49,055 --> 01:30:52,535
Speaker 15: down if there's any moisture around. Just wiped them down

1584
01:30:53,695 --> 01:30:56,535
Speaker 15: in the bathroom. That like if I had a shower

1585
01:30:56,575 --> 01:30:59,455
Speaker 15: at night and up the extract fan, it took out

1586
01:30:59,495 --> 01:31:02,615
Speaker 15: so much I'd wipe the windows or in the thing down.

1587
01:31:03,295 --> 01:31:06,695
Speaker 4: So just a suggestion, Yeah, absolutely love it. Thank you

1588
01:31:06,815 --> 01:31:09,055
Speaker 4: very much. You have a great day. Take care. Eight

1589
01:31:09,135 --> 01:31:11,095
Speaker 4: hundred eighty ten eighty. If you've got a building question

1590
01:31:11,255 --> 01:31:13,415
Speaker 4: or a comment, John, a very good morning to you.

1591
01:31:15,215 --> 01:31:18,615
Speaker 6: Morning. I've got a situation where I've got a timber

1592
01:31:18,775 --> 01:31:23,975
Speaker 6: floor five meters by one point eight meters and the

1593
01:31:24,095 --> 01:31:27,375
Speaker 6: distance between the dirt underneath and the bottom of the

1594
01:31:27,495 --> 01:31:33,095
Speaker 6: one twenty floor joists was only about one fifty and

1595
01:31:33,455 --> 01:31:37,255
Speaker 6: I've cut a hole on the floor and I've dug

1596
01:31:37,335 --> 01:31:41,215
Speaker 6: out about four meters so that the distance is now

1597
01:31:41,335 --> 01:31:47,055
Speaker 6: between five hundred and six hundred. I've installed under floor

1598
01:31:47,175 --> 01:31:51,695
Speaker 6: bats two point suits and put strapping up to make

1599
01:31:51,735 --> 01:31:53,255
Speaker 6: sure they don't down.

1600
01:31:53,615 --> 01:31:54,135
Speaker 4: Fantastic.

1601
01:31:55,175 --> 01:31:59,375
Speaker 6: I'm looking at putting pole of theene down two hundred

1602
01:31:59,695 --> 01:32:05,855
Speaker 6: EMU I think it is, and I've bought a roll

1603
01:32:05,935 --> 01:32:07,855
Speaker 6: of it. Of course, it was a hell cheaper to

1604
01:32:07,895 --> 01:32:10,175
Speaker 6: buy it by the roll than to buy it by

1605
01:32:11,255 --> 01:32:17,695
Speaker 6: just buying the dimension I need. I intend to put

1606
01:32:17,775 --> 01:32:22,615
Speaker 6: in a strip that will come up about three hundred

1607
01:32:22,615 --> 01:32:27,215
Speaker 6: and four hundred along a concrete wall. One of the

1608
01:32:27,295 --> 01:32:30,935
Speaker 6: concrete walls hasn't got anything on it, the other on

1609
01:32:31,095 --> 01:32:32,975
Speaker 6: one side, this is on the long side. The other

1610
01:32:33,095 --> 01:32:37,535
Speaker 6: side has got some polythene up that was back in

1611
01:32:37,655 --> 01:32:40,375
Speaker 6: the days in the seventies you put I think it

1612
01:32:40,495 --> 01:32:41,575
Speaker 6: was moles sealed.

1613
01:32:41,455 --> 01:32:43,895
Speaker 4: Is what we Yeah, but.

1614
01:32:46,335 --> 01:32:49,135
Speaker 6: Protect it and then there was builders mixed put in behind.

1615
01:32:49,735 --> 01:32:54,415
Speaker 6: Now my question is with regard to putting in the

1616
01:32:54,495 --> 01:33:00,375
Speaker 6: polythene down, I intend to put it as a continuous sheet,

1617
01:33:00,495 --> 01:33:03,695
Speaker 6: which maybe a bit of an issue trying to get

1618
01:33:03,775 --> 01:33:07,175
Speaker 6: it in there, but what it's the best way to

1619
01:33:07,375 --> 01:33:11,615
Speaker 6: seal the edges against the bear concrete and then against

1620
01:33:11,735 --> 01:33:16,615
Speaker 6: the other side which has the where it's got the

1621
01:33:16,695 --> 01:33:20,415
Speaker 6: moles seal, and then parting on it and the timber

1622
01:33:20,495 --> 01:33:26,015
Speaker 6: on top of that for the floor, Joys rest On, I.

1623
01:33:26,095 --> 01:33:29,455
Speaker 4: Don't know that you need to be overly concerned about

1624
01:33:29,535 --> 01:33:32,735
Speaker 4: sealing that. And I'm saying that after having done one

1625
01:33:32,895 --> 01:33:36,495
Speaker 4: this week, right, so not a lot more space than

1626
01:33:36,575 --> 01:33:40,495
Speaker 4: what you've got, Although you've created the space, and so

1627
01:33:40,775 --> 01:33:43,855
Speaker 4: we laid the vapor barrier down onto the ground, onto

1628
01:33:43,895 --> 01:33:49,255
Speaker 4: the exposed ground, just butted it against the block ring

1629
01:33:49,535 --> 01:33:52,735
Speaker 4: foundation that goes up to the other side of the bearer,

1630
01:33:53,935 --> 01:33:56,615
Speaker 4: and then didn't try to seal it at all, because

1631
01:33:56,615 --> 01:34:00,375
Speaker 4: you're right, tap won't necessarily stick particularly well to concrete,

1632
01:34:01,815 --> 01:34:03,935
Speaker 4: but we've just butted it in. We did where we

1633
01:34:04,055 --> 01:34:07,375
Speaker 4: came up to the individual piles, this had a concrete

1634
01:34:07,415 --> 01:34:10,215
Speaker 4: block with a timberjackstut on top of it, so cut

1635
01:34:10,335 --> 01:34:13,935
Speaker 4: neatly around those and actually tape that just to stop

1636
01:34:14,015 --> 01:34:14,775
Speaker 4: them moving around.

1637
01:34:16,775 --> 01:34:16,935
Speaker 1: You know.

1638
01:34:17,055 --> 01:34:20,775
Speaker 4: So what we're the intent of having the vapor barrier

1639
01:34:21,055 --> 01:34:24,055
Speaker 4: is that it prevents most of the moisture that's in

1640
01:34:24,135 --> 01:34:28,975
Speaker 4: the ground from rising and making that subfloor space damp. Right,

1641
01:34:29,535 --> 01:34:32,255
Speaker 4: So a little bit of it that might migrate around

1642
01:34:32,295 --> 01:34:37,255
Speaker 4: the perimeter is not going to have a massively detrimental

1643
01:34:37,415 --> 01:34:42,175
Speaker 4: impact on the overall performance of the vapor barrier. So

1644
01:34:42,695 --> 01:34:47,495
Speaker 4: get it down. One of the things you said was

1645
01:34:47,775 --> 01:34:51,775
Speaker 4: in terms of sorry, yeah, you could tuck it up

1646
01:34:51,815 --> 01:34:54,495
Speaker 4: the wall let's say fifty millimeters and look if you

1647
01:34:54,575 --> 01:34:56,415
Speaker 4: can find a tape, and I'm sure there's tapes there

1648
01:34:56,775 --> 01:34:59,495
Speaker 4: that will stick to concrete. Then yeah, that's a great idea.

1649
01:34:59,615 --> 01:35:01,935
Speaker 4: Is just just sort of butted and run it or

1650
01:35:02,255 --> 01:35:04,295
Speaker 4: let it roll up fifty mil and then put a

1651
01:35:04,375 --> 01:35:07,735
Speaker 4: bead of put some tape there. I mean, I'm sure

1652
01:35:07,775 --> 01:35:09,655
Speaker 4: if you really wanted to go to town, you could

1653
01:35:09,695 --> 01:35:14,535
Speaker 4: find like a bead and fix that with a masonry

1654
01:35:14,655 --> 01:35:18,215
Speaker 4: nail to hold it in place. But I think if

1655
01:35:18,295 --> 01:35:23,215
Speaker 4: you butted in neat and tidy, that's you've gone far

1656
01:35:23,375 --> 01:35:25,695
Speaker 4: enough to make an appreciable difference.

1657
01:35:26,695 --> 01:35:30,695
Speaker 6: So the moisture is just convence something underside.

1658
01:35:30,215 --> 01:35:33,935
Speaker 4: And exactly that, exactly that, and just stay in the ground.

1659
01:35:33,975 --> 01:35:36,935
Speaker 4: And that's that's what it's about. And I know I've

1660
01:35:37,015 --> 01:35:40,135
Speaker 4: heard people say, well, look, it just makes the ground damper,

1661
01:35:40,215 --> 01:35:42,015
Speaker 4: and it means my piles are going to move and

1662
01:35:42,055 --> 01:35:46,015
Speaker 4: a whole lot of other things. I've not seen any

1663
01:35:46,095 --> 01:35:47,615
Speaker 4: real evidence that that's the case.

1664
01:35:49,215 --> 01:35:51,975
Speaker 6: Yeah, well it's a area I've got no piles to

1665
01:35:52,575 --> 01:35:54,015
Speaker 6: worry about, just the ring wall.

1666
01:35:55,455 --> 01:35:57,575
Speaker 4: Yeah that's right. Oh well, in that case, do it.

1667
01:35:57,895 --> 01:36:00,495
Speaker 4: The other thing that you mentioned, you were talking about

1668
01:36:00,535 --> 01:36:05,055
Speaker 4: the backfill behind the retaining wall being builders mixed. That's

1669
01:36:05,095 --> 01:36:09,855
Speaker 4: a really terrible form of drainage. Material because it won't

1670
01:36:09,935 --> 01:36:14,015
Speaker 4: allowed when it was. So you know, look if you

1671
01:36:14,055 --> 01:36:15,735
Speaker 4: wanted to do some more work, if you were to

1672
01:36:15,815 --> 01:36:18,855
Speaker 4: excavate that out and put in some free draining scoria,

1673
01:36:20,215 --> 01:36:22,535
Speaker 4: that would make a big difference too to how that works,

1674
01:36:22,535 --> 01:36:25,375
Speaker 4: because it won't work particularly well with builders mixing there

1675
01:36:25,415 --> 01:36:26,055
Speaker 4: as Phil.

1676
01:36:27,815 --> 01:36:31,735
Speaker 6: Well, there's a lot of building and running up the hill,

1677
01:36:32,455 --> 01:36:37,495
Speaker 6: so the water coming down is pretty limited out at

1678
01:36:37,575 --> 01:36:42,135
Speaker 6: one end. I dug down one year with a postal

1679
01:36:42,495 --> 01:36:45,815
Speaker 6: or right in to where the drainers. It was one

1680
01:36:45,855 --> 01:36:49,335
Speaker 6: of those really thick piloting ones. It was only about

1681
01:36:50,255 --> 01:36:54,175
Speaker 6: probably seventy five diameter with the slits in it, and

1682
01:36:54,255 --> 01:36:56,175
Speaker 6: I put it drill on a long pole and I

1683
01:36:56,335 --> 01:36:59,535
Speaker 6: drilled holes into it, and then I put another one

1684
01:36:59,575 --> 01:37:02,935
Speaker 6: of these were about one hundred and fifty those cops

1685
01:37:02,975 --> 01:37:06,095
Speaker 6: Atena type ones, Yes, with a sleeve around it. You know,

1686
01:37:06,295 --> 01:37:09,375
Speaker 6: we all suck on the outside. And then I filled

1687
01:37:09,415 --> 01:37:10,295
Speaker 6: that up with chip.

1688
01:37:11,055 --> 01:37:13,335
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yep, that'll like it's.

1689
01:37:13,255 --> 01:37:17,215
Speaker 6: So called the ground water on the top down into

1690
01:37:17,375 --> 01:37:21,095
Speaker 6: that drain system and I managed to poke a hose

1691
01:37:21,175 --> 01:37:25,255
Speaker 6: up and wash it all out. Yeah great, And it

1692
01:37:25,375 --> 01:37:28,135
Speaker 6: goes around the building so you could see it the

1693
01:37:28,255 --> 01:37:32,615
Speaker 6: water coming with the hose. I pushed and turned on

1694
01:37:32,815 --> 01:37:34,775
Speaker 6: full and the water coming out the other end of

1695
01:37:34,815 --> 01:37:37,255
Speaker 6: the pipe, so that gave it a good clean out.

1696
01:37:38,215 --> 01:37:41,575
Speaker 4: I think it's often when we don't look at you know,

1697
01:37:41,695 --> 01:37:45,135
Speaker 4: effective drainage actually works really really well. That's why it's effective,

1698
01:37:45,135 --> 01:37:49,015
Speaker 4: I suppose, but we don't often sort of observe what

1699
01:37:49,415 --> 01:37:52,975
Speaker 4: happens with our drainage, particularly subsoil drainage and drainage behind

1700
01:37:53,055 --> 01:37:56,775
Speaker 4: retaining walls and that. But yeah, done well, it's effective,

1701
01:37:56,895 --> 01:37:59,895
Speaker 4: done poorly, and we've got lots of problems and I've

1702
01:37:59,935 --> 01:38:02,735
Speaker 4: siddenly spent plenty of time trying to sort those out. John,

1703
01:38:02,775 --> 01:38:04,975
Speaker 4: thanks very much for your call. Before we jump into

1704
01:38:04,975 --> 01:38:07,535
Speaker 4: the garden with it, let's to Jeremy. Good morning to you.

1705
01:38:08,895 --> 01:38:14,535
Speaker 21: Big money Jeremy. Today, Uh, I bought a unit and

1706
01:38:14,655 --> 01:38:18,015
Speaker 21: then but before that, the inspector came and said that

1707
01:38:18,175 --> 01:38:19,735
Speaker 21: the deck wasn't.

1708
01:38:19,615 --> 01:38:23,135
Speaker 4: What to proved properly and things like that, right, so so.

1709
01:38:23,295 --> 01:38:26,695
Speaker 21: I'm trying to remedy the deck. So the builder came

1710
01:38:26,895 --> 01:38:30,215
Speaker 21: and then he's trying to decide what to do because

1711
01:38:30,255 --> 01:38:33,775
Speaker 21: he doesn't know what actually how the board, how that

1712
01:38:34,015 --> 01:38:38,295
Speaker 21: was built. So he suggest opened up the underneath and

1713
01:38:38,375 --> 01:38:42,055
Speaker 21: then and underneath the deck the would and then to

1714
01:38:42,215 --> 01:38:46,695
Speaker 21: uncover what's what, what's what was inside But then they

1715
01:38:46,895 --> 01:38:51,095
Speaker 21: and then he found the rotten rotten wood that goes

1716
01:38:51,175 --> 01:38:55,535
Speaker 21: inside the deck, wood that goes inside the building underneath

1717
01:38:55,575 --> 01:38:59,335
Speaker 21: my uh, goes up on the upper unit and there's

1718
01:38:59,335 --> 01:39:03,135
Speaker 21: a unit below. So this deck would goes up, goes

1719
01:39:03,335 --> 01:39:07,455
Speaker 21: into the in between the union and as part of

1720
01:39:07,535 --> 01:39:13,095
Speaker 21: it is on each site is rotten yep. So according

1721
01:39:13,135 --> 01:39:16,215
Speaker 21: to Dan, and they also fow that this would also

1722
01:39:16,415 --> 01:39:17,895
Speaker 21: is part of the structure.

1723
01:39:19,295 --> 01:39:19,495
Speaker 4: Yep.

1724
01:39:20,895 --> 01:39:27,055
Speaker 21: So I just wonder how to go about remedy to deck.

1725
01:39:27,935 --> 01:39:31,695
Speaker 4: Oh look, you have literally, and I don't mean to

1726
01:39:31,775 --> 01:39:35,775
Speaker 4: be flippant about this, opened up a can of worms, right,

1727
01:39:36,335 --> 01:39:39,495
Speaker 4: So you know, all of what you're talking about is

1728
01:39:39,855 --> 01:39:42,335
Speaker 4: stuff that I've either seen or been involved with. And

1729
01:39:42,455 --> 01:39:47,615
Speaker 4: it is enormously distressing for you as a homeowner. So

1730
01:39:48,455 --> 01:39:51,735
Speaker 4: now that you've purchased the property, and you did so

1731
01:39:52,095 --> 01:39:55,215
Speaker 4: it seems knowing that there might be some potential issues

1732
01:39:55,335 --> 01:39:58,535
Speaker 4: with the weather tightness of the deck, the waterproofing of

1733
01:39:58,575 --> 01:40:01,135
Speaker 4: the deck. And then now that they've uncovered that they've

1734
01:40:01,175 --> 01:40:06,255
Speaker 4: found in fact that there's structural decay to the timber

1735
01:40:06,535 --> 01:40:08,855
Speaker 4: that's supporting the deck, and obviously the fact that it's

1736
01:40:08,975 --> 01:40:13,375
Speaker 4: adjoined to another habitable property, you're going to have to

1737
01:40:13,455 --> 01:40:17,175
Speaker 4: go and get that fixed, right. That becomes your responsibility

1738
01:40:17,255 --> 01:40:22,935
Speaker 4: now and the scope of that project. One of the

1739
01:40:23,055 --> 01:40:25,935
Speaker 4: challenges with some of the remedial work for weather tightness

1740
01:40:26,135 --> 01:40:30,135
Speaker 4: repair is that the scope of it just keeps on expanding. Right,

1741
01:40:30,655 --> 01:40:32,855
Speaker 4: So you think, oh, it's a problem with the waterproofing,

1742
01:40:32,935 --> 01:40:36,135
Speaker 4: I'll change the waterproofing. Then you notice that the substrate

1743
01:40:36,335 --> 01:40:39,255
Speaker 4: is slightly rotten, so I'll take the substraight out. Now

1744
01:40:39,295 --> 01:40:41,935
Speaker 4: I've noticed that the structure below it is rotten, so

1745
01:40:41,975 --> 01:40:44,135
Speaker 4: I've got to take that out. But that's connected to

1746
01:40:44,215 --> 01:40:46,535
Speaker 4: another building. So now I've got to approach the neighbor

1747
01:40:46,575 --> 01:40:49,215
Speaker 4: and say, hey, I might have to pull down your

1748
01:40:49,295 --> 01:40:52,535
Speaker 4: ceiling in order to work on the structure above it.

1749
01:40:54,255 --> 01:41:00,015
Speaker 4: What I would suggest is that you know it could

1750
01:41:00,095 --> 01:41:03,175
Speaker 4: be valuable to you to employ the services, for example,

1751
01:41:03,215 --> 01:41:06,855
Speaker 4: of a building survey to give you some advice guidance

1752
01:41:06,935 --> 01:41:12,175
Speaker 4: as to how extensive the repair has to be. Chances are,

1753
01:41:12,255 --> 01:41:16,935
Speaker 4: if it's weather tightness then that repair might also require

1754
01:41:16,975 --> 01:41:20,255
Speaker 4: a building consent, so you'd want to get some advice

1755
01:41:20,535 --> 01:41:23,295
Speaker 4: on that, and then you really have to make sure

1756
01:41:23,295 --> 01:41:26,895
Speaker 4: that you're working with contractors who are familiar and experienced

1757
01:41:27,015 --> 01:41:30,415
Speaker 4: with this type of weather tightness repair as well, because

1758
01:41:30,455 --> 01:41:35,615
Speaker 4: this is going to become quite a big job. My

1759
01:41:35,735 --> 01:41:36,455
Speaker 4: feeling to.

1760
01:41:38,935 --> 01:41:39,775
Speaker 21: Building severe.

1761
01:41:40,775 --> 01:41:42,975
Speaker 4: I think it would be good, you know, if you're

1762
01:41:43,015 --> 01:41:45,455
Speaker 4: not familiar with all of the ins and outs of

1763
01:41:45,535 --> 01:41:48,295
Speaker 4: the building code and the building requirements and what might

1764
01:41:48,415 --> 01:41:51,255
Speaker 4: be involved, to get some professional advice would be good.

1765
01:41:51,695 --> 01:41:54,215
Speaker 4: And one way to ensure that you're getting professional advice

1766
01:41:54,335 --> 01:41:56,775
Speaker 4: is to get someone who is a building survey, a

1767
01:41:56,895 --> 01:41:59,975
Speaker 4: registered building survey to come and give you some advice

1768
01:42:00,055 --> 01:42:02,855
Speaker 4: on that. And they should also be able to be

1769
01:42:03,015 --> 01:42:06,215
Speaker 4: independent and they might be able to offer some oversight

1770
01:42:06,415 --> 01:42:08,455
Speaker 4: to the contractors who are doing the work, and they'll

1771
01:42:08,495 --> 01:42:11,015
Speaker 4: be able to steer you through the building consent process

1772
01:42:11,015 --> 01:42:14,415
Speaker 4: as well. So if you just search online for building surveys,

1773
01:42:14,535 --> 01:42:19,375
Speaker 4: you'll find New Zealand independent building Surveys Sorry New Zealand.

1774
01:42:20,215 --> 01:42:23,215
Speaker 4: New Zealand Institute of Building Surveys have their own website

1775
01:42:23,255 --> 01:42:25,695
Speaker 4: and then you can go down through that and find

1776
01:42:25,775 --> 01:42:28,735
Speaker 4: building surveyors who work in that area, in your area,

1777
01:42:29,295 --> 01:42:30,895
Speaker 4: and then you can reach out to a couple of

1778
01:42:30,975 --> 01:42:35,415
Speaker 4: them to get someone to give you some advice, because

1779
01:42:35,695 --> 01:42:38,055
Speaker 4: you're going to need good advice and this is going

1780
01:42:38,135 --> 01:42:40,895
Speaker 4: to be, by the sound of it, a very big

1781
01:42:41,335 --> 01:42:44,575
Speaker 4: problem to fix. So I'm afraid I don't have any

1782
01:42:44,615 --> 01:42:47,135
Speaker 4: good news and there's no simple fixes for this. Jeremy,

1783
01:42:47,935 --> 01:42:50,135
Speaker 4: I wish you all the best. Please please let us

1784
01:42:50,215 --> 01:42:52,855
Speaker 4: know how you get on with that process as well.

1785
01:42:54,255 --> 01:42:56,535
Speaker 4: But yeah, there's a lot of work to do in

1786
01:42:56,575 --> 01:43:00,375
Speaker 4: that one. Right he let us jump into the garden

1787
01:43:01,335 --> 01:43:05,655
Speaker 4: and it must be an omen because just as Road's

1788
01:43:05,655 --> 01:43:08,615
Speaker 4: about to arrive, the Dutch have leveled the match as

1789
01:43:08,655 --> 01:43:11,655
Speaker 4: well with a beautiful header, so it's one one in

1790
01:43:11,815 --> 01:43:16,455
Speaker 4: Berlin at the moment Netherlands took care it is one one,

1791
01:43:16,575 --> 01:43:20,495
Speaker 4: so they've evened it up in the seventieth minute. Hallelujah

1792
01:43:21,015 --> 01:43:22,775
Speaker 4: is all I can say. Right, let's talk to the

1793
01:43:22,855 --> 01:43:24,775
Speaker 4: Dutchman ridd along after.

1794
01:43:24,615 --> 01:43:29,175
Speaker 1: The break gardening with still sharp free accessories this winter

1795
01:43:29,415 --> 01:43:33,975
Speaker 1: at steel shop doing other house sorting the garden, asked

1796
01:43:34,015 --> 01:43:37,175
Speaker 1: Pete for a hand the resident builder with Peter Wolfcamp

1797
01:43:37,255 --> 01:43:40,455
Speaker 1: and light Forced Solar. Get your solar savor peg now

1798
01:43:40,975 --> 01:43:43,895
Speaker 1: call eight hundred eighty News talks'd be.

1799
01:43:44,855 --> 01:43:47,575
Speaker 4: Right own New Zealand's favorite Dutchman a red climb pass.

1800
01:43:47,615 --> 01:43:48,415
Speaker 4: Good morning, sir.

1801
01:43:48,935 --> 01:43:51,815
Speaker 9: Yeah, I turned the sound down, Peter, so I can

1802
01:43:51,855 --> 01:43:56,535
Speaker 9: still watch need long echo. Yeah, so oh wait under

1803
01:43:56,655 --> 01:44:00,295
Speaker 9: eighty d Nfi answered, they're still They're still in.

1804
01:44:00,335 --> 01:44:04,015
Speaker 4: The Yeah, that's right. Well it's not all you know,

1805
01:44:04,215 --> 01:44:06,015
Speaker 4: I know, it gives us a chance, it gives us

1806
01:44:06,015 --> 01:44:06,615
Speaker 4: a aunts.

1807
01:44:06,735 --> 01:44:09,375
Speaker 9: Well it's well no, but then there's this, isn't that

1808
01:44:09,495 --> 01:44:11,575
Speaker 9: thirty minutes of extra time?

1809
01:44:12,935 --> 01:44:15,015
Speaker 4: But look there will be another glorious skull in a

1810
01:44:15,095 --> 01:44:15,735
Speaker 4: minute and then.

1811
01:44:15,815 --> 01:44:19,815
Speaker 9: Yeah, well you hope. So yeah, just just just saying

1812
01:44:19,935 --> 01:44:23,335
Speaker 9: one thing. Jacob Anderson is a wonderful old friend of

1813
01:44:23,375 --> 01:44:26,215
Speaker 9: mine from Blake. It's his birthday today, so I want

1814
01:44:26,255 --> 01:44:29,335
Speaker 9: to say get and I know he's in America. I

1815
01:44:29,455 --> 01:44:31,975
Speaker 9: know he's there because he's actually helping Trump doing his

1816
01:44:32,815 --> 01:44:40,855
Speaker 9: sustainability thing and and and and carbon nonsense and stuff

1817
01:44:40,975 --> 01:44:43,495
Speaker 9: like that. But I thought it would be nice because

1818
01:44:43,495 --> 01:44:50,135
Speaker 9: I'll send him the link. Anyway. There you are's.

1819
01:44:49,375 --> 01:44:50,255
Speaker 4: Isn't it No?

1820
01:44:51,055 --> 01:44:51,695
Speaker 11: No not yet?

1821
01:44:51,815 --> 01:44:54,255
Speaker 9: No, no, yes, yes it is it is one.

1822
01:44:54,655 --> 01:44:56,735
Speaker 4: Yes it is oh brilliant.

1823
01:44:57,015 --> 01:44:59,895
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, this is you're now getting live soccer here

1824
01:44:59,935 --> 01:45:00,695
Speaker 9: from news talks.

1825
01:45:01,015 --> 01:45:03,975
Speaker 4: Have I have I shown you what the studio looks like. No,

1826
01:45:04,655 --> 01:45:07,415
Speaker 4: I'll send you a photo I'll send yeah you. Hey,

1827
01:45:07,495 --> 01:45:15,815
Speaker 4: let's let's talk gardening. Let's talk gardening. Bolman Hello, Margaret.

1828
01:45:16,615 --> 01:45:19,015
Speaker 22: Hello, Hello Rude.

1829
01:45:19,495 --> 01:45:20,815
Speaker 14: My problem is.

1830
01:45:23,655 --> 01:45:24,855
Speaker 19: That has weavils.

1831
01:45:25,735 --> 01:45:29,215
Speaker 22: Now it belongs to my son who lives in England

1832
01:45:29,335 --> 01:45:33,655
Speaker 22: and he thinks his mother knows absolutely everything. So all

1833
01:45:33,735 --> 01:45:40,335
Speaker 22: I want to know is if a New Zealand had weavils,

1834
01:45:40,535 --> 01:45:43,495
Speaker 22: what would you treat it with so that I can

1835
01:45:43,615 --> 01:45:47,055
Speaker 22: relate it to him so that he can some idea

1836
01:45:47,095 --> 01:45:47,575
Speaker 22: of what to do?

1837
01:45:48,455 --> 01:45:53,015
Speaker 9: And who identified those weavils? Margaret? Because I want you

1838
01:45:53,095 --> 01:45:55,015
Speaker 9: to get I want to give you a way out

1839
01:45:55,055 --> 01:46:00,055
Speaker 9: as well that in case it doesn't work, he identified

1840
01:46:00,375 --> 01:46:01,895
Speaker 9: the weavil? Do you know what I mean?

1841
01:46:02,935 --> 01:46:06,775
Speaker 22: Yes, apparently I've been to all the nurseries that tried

1842
01:46:07,575 --> 01:46:10,535
Speaker 22: slugs them and anything that I could come up with,

1843
01:46:11,375 --> 01:46:16,535
Speaker 22: and I've looked through my gardening books that's got remedies

1844
01:46:16,615 --> 01:46:19,175
Speaker 22: for everything else except weavels.

1845
01:46:20,375 --> 01:46:23,135
Speaker 9: What have you seen that thing? Has he sent you

1846
01:46:23,215 --> 01:46:23,855
Speaker 9: photos of it?

1847
01:46:24,855 --> 01:46:24,895
Speaker 13: No?

1848
01:46:25,575 --> 01:46:29,895
Speaker 22: But his his nurseless pejalla and it's got one flower

1849
01:46:29,975 --> 01:46:36,135
Speaker 22: on it and yeah, he's had he has mentioned weavels

1850
01:46:36,215 --> 01:46:36,935
Speaker 22: before and.

1851
01:46:38,815 --> 01:46:41,615
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, but there's a word, you know, And in

1852
01:46:41,775 --> 01:46:44,695
Speaker 9: terms of entomology, you need to actually know what you're

1853
01:46:44,775 --> 01:46:50,615
Speaker 9: dealing with before I can give you a reasonably good

1854
01:46:50,975 --> 01:46:54,495
Speaker 9: insecticide which is not too harmful, et cetera, et cetera,

1855
01:46:55,015 --> 01:46:58,055
Speaker 9: that you can use on the plant. Now, a general

1856
01:46:58,175 --> 01:47:04,335
Speaker 9: insecticide that you could use is something called a piriethrum

1857
01:47:04,615 --> 01:47:10,255
Speaker 9: or a permethrone, which are materials that are not that

1858
01:47:10,495 --> 01:47:13,775
Speaker 9: toxic and they will last for a couple of days,

1859
01:47:13,855 --> 01:47:17,135
Speaker 9: especially the permethrin. And if the weavil, if it is

1860
01:47:17,175 --> 01:47:20,055
Speaker 9: a weavil, for instance, eats the leaves, it will literally

1861
01:47:20,175 --> 01:47:22,735
Speaker 9: get that poison inside it and it's not going to

1862
01:47:22,775 --> 01:47:28,535
Speaker 9: be good for that particular creature. So so so try

1863
01:47:28,735 --> 01:47:33,295
Speaker 9: try something that is contains permethrin. I'll spell it out

1864
01:47:33,375 --> 01:47:33,535
Speaker 9: for you.

1865
01:47:34,295 --> 01:47:35,215
Speaker 2: P E R.

1866
01:47:36,695 --> 01:47:39,015
Speaker 11: Yep M E T h.

1867
01:47:40,895 --> 01:47:42,335
Speaker 2: R I N.

1868
01:47:44,455 --> 01:47:46,895
Speaker 22: I will send that to him and good luck on

1869
01:47:47,615 --> 01:47:50,095
Speaker 22: your Dutch team.

1870
01:47:50,255 --> 01:47:53,975
Speaker 9: Oh you know, I don't care about the Dutch three

1871
01:47:54,055 --> 01:47:56,375
Speaker 9: quite I find these bugs far more interesting.

1872
01:47:58,855 --> 01:48:00,295
Speaker 22: Thank you for your advice.

1873
01:48:00,855 --> 01:48:02,095
Speaker 9: There you go, Margot.

1874
01:48:03,775 --> 01:48:11,855
Speaker 4: Lovely, take care. Can we cut our citrus down? Text

1875
01:48:11,895 --> 01:48:15,135
Speaker 4: message from someone in Auckland, Tanya in Auckland. Not my sister,

1876
01:48:15,215 --> 01:48:16,215
Speaker 4: but Tanya, I think.

1877
01:48:16,775 --> 01:48:19,375
Speaker 9: Not your sister, but my sister. Can we cut.

1878
01:48:20,935 --> 01:48:21,295
Speaker 4: CRUs?

1879
01:48:21,495 --> 01:48:21,535
Speaker 13: No?

1880
01:48:21,615 --> 01:48:24,135
Speaker 4: No, no, can we cut our citrus? Now? I presume pruning?

1881
01:48:24,255 --> 01:48:27,215
Speaker 9: Oh, pruning it? Yes, you can. This is a good time,

1882
01:48:27,335 --> 01:48:30,535
Speaker 9: especially as the only problem at the moment is, of

1883
01:48:30,615 --> 01:48:33,615
Speaker 9: course citrus flowers at this time of the year and

1884
01:48:33,855 --> 01:48:38,575
Speaker 9: starts to a bit earlier and starts to actually make fruit.

1885
01:48:38,695 --> 01:48:40,215
Speaker 9: So you've got to be careful how much fruit you

1886
01:48:40,295 --> 01:48:43,055
Speaker 9: want to keep on the tree, you know, on the shrub.

1887
01:48:43,375 --> 01:48:45,895
Speaker 9: That's number one. Number two is the good thing is

1888
01:48:46,015 --> 01:48:48,655
Speaker 9: that there is no lemon tree borer at the moment

1889
01:48:48,735 --> 01:48:52,615
Speaker 9: that would go into the cut patches that you leave behind,

1890
01:48:52,735 --> 01:48:54,175
Speaker 9: because that's where they lay their eggs.

1891
01:48:55,095 --> 01:48:55,255
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1892
01:48:55,335 --> 01:48:57,735
Speaker 4: No, that's quite good. Because we did one as part

1893
01:48:57,775 --> 01:49:00,895
Speaker 4: of a sort of garden maintenance thing the other day

1894
01:49:01,175 --> 01:49:04,135
Speaker 4: and because we needed to reduce the canopy, you know,

1895
01:49:04,455 --> 01:49:07,015
Speaker 4: it was just getting too tall and too much shade

1896
01:49:07,055 --> 01:49:09,975
Speaker 4: and that sort of thing. So but treated now, do

1897
01:49:10,055 --> 01:49:11,415
Speaker 4: you still treat all your cuts?

1898
01:49:12,575 --> 01:49:12,615
Speaker 13: No?

1899
01:49:12,895 --> 01:49:13,695
Speaker 9: I don't anymore.

1900
01:49:13,935 --> 01:49:15,135
Speaker 4: Really, I'm not at all for that.

1901
01:49:15,295 --> 01:49:17,295
Speaker 9: No, not at all. Not if you do it at

1902
01:49:17,335 --> 01:49:20,175
Speaker 9: this time of the year, right, or say in autumn

1903
01:49:20,215 --> 01:49:23,535
Speaker 9: time when things dry out quicker. If there are trees

1904
01:49:23,615 --> 01:49:28,175
Speaker 9: that are sensitive to infections on the cuts, and I

1905
01:49:28,455 --> 01:49:32,175
Speaker 9: am thinking which ones would that be. I think there

1906
01:49:32,255 --> 01:49:37,095
Speaker 9: might be some some magnolias that do that, for instance,

1907
01:49:37,615 --> 01:49:39,455
Speaker 9: then it pays to do that, or if you do

1908
01:49:39,575 --> 01:49:43,175
Speaker 9: it outside of the cutting time. But generally speaking, no,

1909
01:49:43,415 --> 01:49:46,095
Speaker 9: if a branch falls off a tree, you know, nobody's

1910
01:49:46,175 --> 01:49:48,815
Speaker 9: put anything on it in the past, you know, sure,

1911
01:49:48,855 --> 01:49:49,495
Speaker 9: that's the way it is.

1912
01:49:49,775 --> 01:49:51,695
Speaker 4: Right, yeh, let's talk to John. How are you there, John?

1913
01:49:51,775 --> 01:49:52,095
Speaker 4: How are you?

1914
01:49:53,575 --> 01:49:53,775
Speaker 12: Yeah?

1915
01:49:53,895 --> 01:49:54,055
Speaker 9: Good?

1916
01:49:54,135 --> 01:50:00,295
Speaker 20: Thanks good. I've had some yackus cut down and they

1917
01:50:01,095 --> 01:50:05,535
Speaker 20: put some green paste on the stumps. Yeah, but it

1918
01:50:05,655 --> 01:50:08,895
Speaker 20: hasn't what what can I put on it?

1919
01:50:09,455 --> 01:50:09,535
Speaker 7: Oh?

1920
01:50:09,615 --> 01:50:11,815
Speaker 9: What pasce? Did you put on it? Then you're trying

1921
01:50:11,855 --> 01:50:13,375
Speaker 9: to get rid of the yuckers? Is that what I

1922
01:50:13,495 --> 01:50:13,735
Speaker 9: get it?

1923
01:50:14,895 --> 01:50:15,095
Speaker 16: Yes?

1924
01:50:15,375 --> 01:50:19,215
Speaker 20: Yeah, okay, Well I had an amorous guy coming and

1925
01:50:19,335 --> 01:50:23,535
Speaker 20: he dammers. Yeah, but I don't know what the paste

1926
01:50:23,735 --> 01:50:24,615
Speaker 20: was did he put on it?

1927
01:50:25,455 --> 01:50:26,375
Speaker 9: Is it regrowing?

1928
01:50:26,535 --> 01:50:26,695
Speaker 5: Is it?

1929
01:50:27,935 --> 01:50:28,135
Speaker 20: Yes?

1930
01:50:28,815 --> 01:50:33,255
Speaker 9: So it's it's sprouting up again. Oh k yeah, so yeah,

1931
01:50:33,295 --> 01:50:35,815
Speaker 9: I know what you mean that is? Ah, give me

1932
01:50:35,935 --> 01:50:39,055
Speaker 9: a ticky I think I've got something here. What did

1933
01:50:39,135 --> 01:50:39,735
Speaker 9: I have here?

1934
01:50:39,855 --> 01:50:42,335
Speaker 4: On my little note, I've got this lovely I cut

1935
01:50:42,455 --> 01:50:44,615
Speaker 4: one down at the school a couple of years ago,

1936
01:50:44,895 --> 01:50:47,095
Speaker 4: quite a big one, right, and that was right up

1937
01:50:47,135 --> 01:50:49,055
Speaker 4: against the building. Da da da, So cut it down

1938
01:50:49,095 --> 01:50:50,775
Speaker 4: and then I thought, I'm not cutting the stump out

1939
01:50:51,455 --> 01:50:53,975
Speaker 4: because it's just so much work. So I just carved

1940
01:50:54,095 --> 01:50:57,015
Speaker 4: a seat into the stump for the kids to sit on.

1941
01:50:57,775 --> 01:50:59,815
Speaker 4: And but I went back a couple of years later,

1942
01:50:59,895 --> 01:51:01,735
Speaker 4: and of course it's all sprouted. So now you've got

1943
01:51:01,775 --> 01:51:03,455
Speaker 4: this little garden throwne with these.

1944
01:51:03,495 --> 01:51:08,655
Speaker 9: Huge side yeah yeah, okay, seats And okay, here is

1945
01:51:08,695 --> 01:51:10,855
Speaker 9: a material that you can use as a cut and

1946
01:51:11,135 --> 01:51:16,655
Speaker 9: paste really well, by the way, John, it's called pilorum piccloram,

1947
01:51:16,735 --> 01:51:20,575
Speaker 9: and I'll spell that for you p I C l

1948
01:51:21,015 --> 01:51:27,895
Speaker 9: O R A M picchlorum weed to gel picchlorum. There

1949
01:51:27,935 --> 01:51:30,335
Speaker 9: you go. That is a cut and paste for privet,

1950
01:51:30,775 --> 01:51:34,975
Speaker 9: buck thorn, barbery, all the buggers really while ginger for instance.

1951
01:51:35,375 --> 01:51:39,215
Speaker 9: And I reckon it will do that too on your yaka.

1952
01:51:39,375 --> 01:51:42,415
Speaker 20: Okay, So where do I Where do I get that

1953
01:51:42,575 --> 01:51:43,455
Speaker 20: from a garden shop?

1954
01:51:44,095 --> 01:51:47,495
Speaker 9: I if you can't get it at your garden shop,

1955
01:51:47,615 --> 01:51:52,055
Speaker 9: try something like pg Wright Sense, you know what I mean,

1956
01:51:53,055 --> 01:51:56,055
Speaker 9: or Ravens Down or New Farm all that sort of stuff.

1957
01:51:56,375 --> 01:52:00,695
Speaker 9: So there are all these these these typical shops that

1958
01:52:00,855 --> 01:52:05,175
Speaker 9: work for for people that professional gardeners and professional whatever.

1959
01:52:05,335 --> 01:52:06,175
Speaker 9: Yeah there you go.

1960
01:52:06,655 --> 01:52:08,695
Speaker 20: Okay, thank you for that.

1961
01:52:09,135 --> 01:52:11,735
Speaker 4: My pleasure or our pleasure and Dreid's pleasure as well.

1962
01:52:11,895 --> 01:52:15,895
Speaker 9: Yeah my pleasure. Yeah nice title, John, So okay, a

1963
01:52:15,975 --> 01:52:18,335
Speaker 9: lovely text here that says that lady's son that was,

1964
01:52:18,375 --> 01:52:22,655
Speaker 9: of course, sir Margaret. And if Joe might have weavil

1965
01:52:22,775 --> 01:52:28,255
Speaker 9: canievil that jumped from one other. I like that one.

1966
01:52:28,575 --> 01:52:35,855
Speaker 4: That's quite good. Actually, that's quite good. And someone texts

1967
01:52:35,895 --> 01:52:38,495
Speaker 4: me to ask me the phone number to ring Rude.

1968
01:52:38,615 --> 01:52:40,735
Speaker 4: It's like eight one hundred eighty ten eighty. It always

1969
01:52:40,775 --> 01:52:44,015
Speaker 4: has been, it probably always will be. Uh we I

1970
01:52:44,175 --> 01:52:46,375
Speaker 4: need to to just take a moment to calm down,

1971
01:52:46,575 --> 01:52:49,215
Speaker 4: and so we're gonna take a break. But by the way,

1972
01:52:49,255 --> 01:52:52,295
Speaker 4: it's still too yeah, yeah, right back in a moment

1973
01:52:52,335 --> 01:52:53,535
Speaker 4: with Colleen ring.

1974
01:52:54,855 --> 01:52:57,455
Speaker 1: Whill are you fainting the ceiling, fixing the fence, or

1975
01:52:57,535 --> 01:52:59,775
Speaker 1: wondering how to fix that hole in the wall. Give

1976
01:52:59,855 --> 01:53:02,495
Speaker 1: Peter Wolf Cabin call on Oh eight hundred eighty ten

1977
01:53:02,615 --> 01:53:05,855
Speaker 1: eighty the resident builder with light four solar. It flick

1978
01:53:05,895 --> 01:53:08,415
Speaker 1: the switch to Sola Today news talks.

1979
01:53:09,935 --> 01:53:12,655
Speaker 4: Right, A bunch of calls waiting, let's rip into it. Colin,

1980
01:53:12,735 --> 01:53:14,935
Speaker 4: Hello there, Hi, dear.

1981
01:53:15,535 --> 01:53:19,695
Speaker 17: Wrote, I've got a problem with my rosemary hedge. It's

1982
01:53:20,015 --> 01:53:23,575
Speaker 17: having died back quite regularly and petches. It's looking very motley.

1983
01:53:24,615 --> 01:53:25,815
Speaker 23: Oh what can I do about it?

1984
01:53:26,375 --> 01:53:30,015
Speaker 9: I don't know what. Does it feel like something is

1985
01:53:30,095 --> 01:53:32,215
Speaker 9: eating it? Or is there a fungal thing?

1986
01:53:32,375 --> 01:53:32,415
Speaker 1: What?

1987
01:53:32,615 --> 01:53:33,335
Speaker 9: What do you think?

1988
01:53:33,455 --> 01:53:38,215
Speaker 17: Well, it just looks it's quite gone, quite a dullish green.

1989
01:53:38,335 --> 01:53:41,455
Speaker 17: It's not the intense green that my other rosemary huge

1990
01:53:41,535 --> 01:53:43,295
Speaker 17: is looking at the other.

1991
01:53:43,335 --> 01:53:44,055
Speaker 16: Side of the house.

1992
01:53:44,135 --> 01:53:47,775
Speaker 17: It looks quite good, but it's just it doesn't look

1993
01:53:47,855 --> 01:53:50,975
Speaker 17: like this any and sick. That just looks very sad.

1994
01:53:52,335 --> 01:53:56,335
Speaker 9: Yeah, And what I get it from you is that

1995
01:53:56,455 --> 01:53:58,015
Speaker 9: it's only one plant.

1996
01:53:57,735 --> 01:54:01,295
Speaker 17: In the row that does that well at a time. Yes,

1997
01:54:01,455 --> 01:54:03,855
Speaker 17: And I will cut that back and it does sort

1998
01:54:03,895 --> 01:54:06,215
Speaker 17: of come up like there'll be a plant that's got

1999
01:54:06,375 --> 01:54:08,735
Speaker 17: lots of green on and then I'll have this big

2000
01:54:08,855 --> 01:54:11,655
Speaker 17: deed pet. So I cut that out and the keeps going.

2001
01:54:11,735 --> 01:54:14,695
Speaker 17: It still just looks duller though than my other hedge.

2002
01:54:14,735 --> 01:54:17,455
Speaker 17: It's not thriving the same conditions.

2003
01:54:19,015 --> 01:54:21,295
Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, same condition, same amount of light and all

2004
01:54:21,335 --> 01:54:22,055
Speaker 9: that sort of stuff.

2005
01:54:23,135 --> 01:54:23,375
Speaker 13: Yeah.

2006
01:54:23,615 --> 01:54:25,975
Speaker 17: Yeah, they're not getting too much water. Well it does

2007
01:54:26,055 --> 01:54:27,695
Speaker 17: time of the year, they're getting more water than usual.

2008
01:54:27,735 --> 01:54:33,055
Speaker 17: But yes, well drained soil it's got. It has plenty

2009
01:54:33,095 --> 01:54:35,135
Speaker 17: of sun when the sun shining, you know, they're in

2010
01:54:35,255 --> 01:54:36,695
Speaker 17: a good and a good spot.

2011
01:54:36,895 --> 01:54:41,215
Speaker 9: But just then, you just you just mentioned the two things,

2012
01:54:41,655 --> 01:54:43,575
Speaker 9: the fact that it's if it's you know I said

2013
01:54:43,615 --> 01:54:46,015
Speaker 9: about you know, the light, if it's too dark, it

2014
01:54:46,135 --> 01:54:49,375
Speaker 9: does that sometimes, and when it's too wet it does

2015
01:54:49,495 --> 01:54:51,615
Speaker 9: that too, right.

2016
01:54:52,215 --> 01:54:55,175
Speaker 17: So, but it's a good well drained soil like it's not.

2017
01:54:56,015 --> 01:54:58,775
Speaker 17: I don't know. It's just very depressing actually to look

2018
01:54:58,775 --> 01:55:00,695
Speaker 17: at it at the moment. My friend told me just to.

2019
01:55:00,775 --> 01:55:03,695
Speaker 9: Rip it out and get another one. No, no, you

2020
01:55:03,855 --> 01:55:06,415
Speaker 9: get another one that is of the same variety and

2021
01:55:06,495 --> 01:55:10,055
Speaker 9: then get that to catch up. I suppose that would

2022
01:55:10,255 --> 01:55:12,455
Speaker 9: would have been my idea too, if it really doesn't

2023
01:55:12,455 --> 01:55:12,895
Speaker 9: want to work.

2024
01:55:13,175 --> 01:55:15,455
Speaker 4: And I'm just a bit curious, Colleen, when you say

2025
01:55:15,575 --> 01:55:19,735
Speaker 4: rosemary hedge, is it rosemary as in standard herbs or

2026
01:55:19,855 --> 01:55:21,335
Speaker 4: is it a specific skin.

2027
01:55:21,295 --> 01:55:24,735
Speaker 17: Blue, which they say is the best sort for rosemary.

2028
01:55:25,735 --> 01:55:27,015
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm intrigued.

2029
01:55:27,495 --> 01:55:31,375
Speaker 17: Yeah, exactly what it was.

2030
01:55:31,615 --> 01:55:34,255
Speaker 9: No, I don't, no, I don't. We don't have that

2031
01:55:34,375 --> 01:55:36,735
Speaker 9: at our place at the moment, so I don't know.

2032
01:55:36,855 --> 01:55:42,375
Speaker 17: Okay, because it doesn't okay. They say rosemary doesn't want

2033
01:55:42,415 --> 01:55:44,615
Speaker 17: a lot of manure because they're used to growing and

2034
01:55:45,135 --> 01:55:48,935
Speaker 17: pour a soil. So I don't feed it. But there's

2035
01:55:48,975 --> 01:55:51,975
Speaker 17: a new garden, and so it's got plenty, it's had

2036
01:55:52,015 --> 01:55:54,495
Speaker 17: plenty of you know, all the good stuff to start one.

2037
01:55:54,615 --> 01:55:56,455
Speaker 9: Maybe maybe it is an idea to give it a

2038
01:55:56,495 --> 01:55:59,615
Speaker 9: little bit of general fertilizer in springtime, just see what happens.

2039
01:56:00,695 --> 01:56:02,095
Speaker 4: Good luck with that. I'm going to look that up

2040
01:56:02,095 --> 01:56:05,015
Speaker 4: because I quite like the sound of a Rosemary hedge. Right,

2041
01:56:07,415 --> 01:56:08,255
Speaker 4: hello ground, ye.

2042
01:56:09,055 --> 01:56:09,575
Speaker 10: Yeah, oh right.

2043
01:56:09,695 --> 01:56:12,095
Speaker 23: I just listened to your show. Somebody you rang up

2044
01:56:12,095 --> 01:56:16,935
Speaker 23: a little while ago with an issue with yackers. Yeah yeah,

2045
01:56:17,135 --> 01:56:19,295
Speaker 23: I had an issue with yackers too, but I fixed it.

2046
01:56:20,735 --> 01:56:23,135
Speaker 23: All theories about using bleach and everything else. But now

2047
01:56:23,215 --> 01:56:26,415
Speaker 23: what I do is I cut stumps of really close

2048
01:56:26,455 --> 01:56:27,455
Speaker 23: to the ground ground.

2049
01:56:27,535 --> 01:56:29,335
Speaker 20: Yeah yeah, still a few holes on.

2050
01:56:29,375 --> 01:56:33,095
Speaker 23: The top of them. HEV what YEA and so and

2051
01:56:33,215 --> 01:56:39,175
Speaker 23: get a bit of associate associated and a few grenules

2052
01:56:39,215 --> 01:56:41,415
Speaker 23: down each hole and you can put a cap over

2053
01:56:41,455 --> 01:56:43,095
Speaker 23: you want to the animals and you can't get in there.

2054
01:56:43,975 --> 01:56:47,175
Speaker 23: And like watching Paint Driver, if you go and check

2055
01:56:47,215 --> 01:56:49,415
Speaker 23: the stump three months now, lady, you should find they

2056
01:56:49,495 --> 01:56:53,895
Speaker 23: did it is yes, trees yackers, it works every time

2057
01:56:53,975 --> 01:56:54,775
Speaker 23: they associate.

2058
01:56:55,455 --> 01:56:57,895
Speaker 9: I love I like that metal for on. It's it's

2059
01:56:57,935 --> 01:57:00,495
Speaker 9: a good material for gorse and broom, blackberries, all that

2060
01:57:00,535 --> 01:57:00,775
Speaker 9: sort of.

2061
01:57:00,855 --> 01:57:03,095
Speaker 23: Yeah, that's what I had it for. But the thing is,

2062
01:57:03,135 --> 01:57:05,295
Speaker 23: that's quite an affordable braskelar too. If you use it

2063
01:57:05,895 --> 01:57:08,975
Speaker 23: sparing that you'll kill. Buy a bottle of that for

2064
01:57:09,015 --> 01:57:11,215
Speaker 23: about seventy bucks. And your wife had about one hundred

2065
01:57:11,255 --> 01:57:13,095
Speaker 23: yarcas and possibly still have a bit left over.

2066
01:57:13,615 --> 01:57:16,775
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm sure you No, you're absolutely right. Good point.

2067
01:57:16,855 --> 01:57:19,055
Speaker 9: And and the stuff that I mentioned was a weed

2068
01:57:19,215 --> 01:57:21,815
Speaker 9: gel which is a cut and paste from and it's

2069
01:57:21,815 --> 01:57:26,015
Speaker 9: called picloramic. Some people asked what it was called picloram

2070
01:57:26,495 --> 01:57:28,655
Speaker 9: And the one that you were just mentioning was metsal

2071
01:57:28,775 --> 01:57:34,735
Speaker 9: food on may field. Also, that's no, those are those

2072
01:57:34,775 --> 01:57:37,415
Speaker 9: are the those are the active ingredients I suppose in

2073
01:57:37,535 --> 01:57:39,175
Speaker 9: the material yeah, there you are.

2074
01:57:39,495 --> 01:57:41,815
Speaker 4: Hey, thanks for that much preciate grants all the very

2075
01:57:41,855 --> 01:57:43,055
Speaker 4: bus to you and hullo Linda.

2076
01:57:44,095 --> 01:57:47,815
Speaker 8: Hello, I had a film mistake and it's got meybie bug.

2077
01:57:47,895 --> 01:57:51,615
Speaker 8: We've had it for about I had to had that

2078
01:57:51,735 --> 01:57:54,935
Speaker 8: tree for a while and endorse fut tell me that

2079
01:57:55,215 --> 01:57:58,855
Speaker 8: the maye bug started about twelve months ago and we've

2080
01:57:58,895 --> 01:58:01,375
Speaker 8: been trying to treat it with dish washing water. The

2081
01:58:01,455 --> 01:58:04,135
Speaker 8: neighbor gave me some spray that she uses on her

2082
01:58:04,215 --> 01:58:10,095
Speaker 8: roses that actually whilst we've managed to get some of

2083
01:58:10,175 --> 01:58:13,575
Speaker 8: it off and are still going and unfortunately the milli

2084
01:58:13,655 --> 01:58:16,495
Speaker 8: baggers going down the tree. So it's about one, two,

2085
01:58:16,535 --> 01:58:21,055
Speaker 8: three or five beg leaves down now and almost halfway down.

2086
01:58:22,455 --> 01:58:23,215
Speaker 11: And what is what?

2087
01:58:23,815 --> 01:58:23,855
Speaker 13: What?

2088
01:58:24,215 --> 01:58:28,695
Speaker 9: What plant is it? What plant is? Okay fig? So

2089
01:58:28,735 --> 01:58:32,655
Speaker 9: it's an internal fig and in indoor fig. Oh here

2090
01:58:32,735 --> 01:58:32,895
Speaker 9: you go.

2091
01:58:33,735 --> 01:58:33,895
Speaker 2: Uh.

2092
01:58:34,095 --> 01:58:36,575
Speaker 9: There's a very good, nice little product that I'm using

2093
01:58:36,655 --> 01:58:39,895
Speaker 9: quite a bit, not on food plants, not on on

2094
01:58:40,135 --> 01:58:43,295
Speaker 9: crops if you like, but on ornamentals. And it's called

2095
01:58:43,815 --> 01:58:48,975
Speaker 9: grow Ventive g R o v E n t i

2096
01:58:49,655 --> 01:58:56,135
Speaker 9: v E grow vents yes, and spray that on according

2097
01:58:56,175 --> 01:58:58,455
Speaker 9: to the label and do it maybe three or four time,

2098
01:58:58,615 --> 01:59:02,655
Speaker 9: say a couple of weeks apart, three weeks apart, and

2099
01:59:03,255 --> 01:59:06,015
Speaker 9: those mellie bugs do not like that stuff. I've noticed

2100
01:59:06,055 --> 01:59:07,455
Speaker 9: a protest a lot.

2101
01:59:08,695 --> 01:59:09,015
Speaker 11: Awesome.

2102
01:59:09,215 --> 01:59:10,095
Speaker 8: That's my kind of guy.

2103
01:59:10,175 --> 01:59:11,215
Speaker 16: Thank you very much to Day.

2104
01:59:11,815 --> 01:59:14,655
Speaker 4: Thank you all the bestie Linda, you take care, uh

2105
01:59:14,935 --> 01:59:18,215
Speaker 4: and Sheryl, greetings to you. Hi.

2106
01:59:19,935 --> 01:59:24,615
Speaker 24: I've got a question about my white diamonds grape vine.

2107
01:59:25,175 --> 01:59:28,935
Speaker 24: About two years ago, my main grape vine at the

2108
01:59:29,015 --> 01:59:31,015
Speaker 24: beach put down sort of like a sucker or whatever,

2109
01:59:31,095 --> 01:59:35,695
Speaker 24: and it's made a new grape vine's transplanted onto another fence.

2110
01:59:37,175 --> 01:59:39,135
Speaker 24: Last year was its first year you'd had a decent.

2111
01:59:39,015 --> 01:59:39,415
Speaker 11: Crop on it.

2112
01:59:39,495 --> 01:59:41,535
Speaker 24: So it's you know, it's a decent size. But I

2113
01:59:41,695 --> 01:59:44,415
Speaker 24: want to transplant that one, and I want to take

2114
01:59:44,455 --> 01:59:46,975
Speaker 24: it home to my main house from my big house.

2115
01:59:47,815 --> 01:59:50,575
Speaker 24: So what how do I go about transplanting it? Because

2116
01:59:50,575 --> 01:59:52,055
Speaker 24: it's sort of a decent size.

2117
01:59:53,175 --> 01:59:55,735
Speaker 9: The right time to move this down, This is the

2118
01:59:55,895 --> 01:59:58,655
Speaker 9: right time to do it and get it and keep

2119
01:59:58,695 --> 02:00:01,055
Speaker 9: as many roots on if you can. I get it

2120
02:00:01,175 --> 02:00:03,335
Speaker 9: that It ran away a bit like runner, did it?

2121
02:00:05,415 --> 02:00:05,615
Speaker 11: Yeah?

2122
02:00:06,055 --> 02:00:07,535
Speaker 15: Yeah, sort of shot up from the.

2123
02:00:09,455 --> 02:00:11,415
Speaker 24: Main steam the bottom of the stem of the main

2124
02:00:11,535 --> 02:00:13,695
Speaker 24: one type.

2125
02:00:14,495 --> 02:00:14,895
Speaker 9: Oh is it?

2126
02:00:15,015 --> 02:00:15,855
Speaker 16: But is it?

2127
02:00:16,015 --> 02:00:19,015
Speaker 9: It's it's coming out of the soil though. Yeah.

2128
02:00:19,055 --> 02:00:21,855
Speaker 24: I cut it off two years ago and transplanted there

2129
02:00:21,895 --> 02:00:23,775
Speaker 24: to another place to see how it would go, and

2130
02:00:23,895 --> 02:00:26,055
Speaker 24: last year ahead of an equal clock, so I thought, okay,

2131
02:00:26,175 --> 02:00:26,895
Speaker 24: I want to move there.

2132
02:00:26,935 --> 02:00:29,455
Speaker 9: Hard, to take it away for the take as much

2133
02:00:29,575 --> 02:00:31,575
Speaker 9: roots with you as you can. And I think that

2134
02:00:31,695 --> 02:00:33,775
Speaker 9: was the right exactly the right time to do this.

2135
02:00:34,015 --> 02:00:34,815
Speaker 9: July bingo.

2136
02:00:35,775 --> 02:00:38,575
Speaker 24: Okay, Well it's alastallants and leaves. So do I cut

2137
02:00:38,615 --> 02:00:41,895
Speaker 24: the trunk vector half the leap or once you can

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Speaker 24: cut you can do that.

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Speaker 9: You can do that if you want to. But if

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Speaker 9: you if the point is that it depends entirely on

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Speaker 9: how large it is, How big is it? How tall?

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Speaker 2: How tall?

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Speaker 24: Probably well, when all the leaves dropped off and I

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Speaker 24: cut it right back, you know, all the side shoots off,

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Speaker 24: I would say it goes. It's a meter tour and

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Speaker 24: know sort of what's the word.

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Speaker 9: Is spelly, yes, espellier. I love that French word. Good. No, look,

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Speaker 9: take take it, take it as it is. And if

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Speaker 9: it's a bit too tall to transport, take the tops off.

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Speaker 9: It doesn't matter, it'll come back. But do it with

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Speaker 9: as much roots as you can. That's really the that's

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Speaker 9: really the guts.

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Speaker 4: The bigger the roup, all the better.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, they or not necessarily, but it could be. It

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Speaker 9: could go on for me. It could it could go

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Speaker 9: on for me this. But you'll have to do you

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Speaker 9: have this to trim it then if that's the case.

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Speaker 9: But as I said, as much as you can take

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Speaker 9: with you go all right, and a very.

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Speaker 4: Quick call from your ability to round us out. It'll

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Speaker 4: take us to full time.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: Well, hydrangers are struggling. They're in pots and they basically

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Speaker 12: haven't moved an instance, and bore them and put them

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Speaker 12: in there a couple of years ago. Just wondering if

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Speaker 12: you had any thoughts on that.

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Speaker 9: Maybe put them in the soil. Can you have you

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Speaker 9: got some plants space in the garden?

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Speaker 11: Yep, yep, we do.

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Speaker 12: Are they not suitable for pots?

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Speaker 9: I think it's I think they're much better in a

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Speaker 9: garden with nice, well drained soil, you know that wonderful

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Speaker 9: top soil with a bit of compost. Mix it in

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Speaker 9: in the top and eye rangers will love you for it,

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Speaker 9: and they can go as big as you like, and

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Speaker 9: you can control them. At this time of the year

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Speaker 9: with pruning as much as you like.

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Speaker 12: Okay, all right, now that might be the answer to

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Speaker 12: give up.

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Speaker 9: On Yeah, otherwise you're literally peeing into the wind and

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Speaker 9: it can't go anywhere.

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Speaker 1: We don't want that.

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Speaker 4: You take care. They've done it, they've done it.

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Speaker 9: They're always I know.

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Speaker 4: I like rhyme very it's awesome. Right, I'm off to

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Speaker 4: see me mum.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you better go say hi.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I will mate, all right, you take care. See.

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Speaker 18: Oh that's fabulous, that's fabulous. Check out the photos on

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Speaker 18: the social page. I've decorated the studio. It's all been

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Speaker 18: for a good cause. So the Netherlands are through to

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Speaker 18: face England. I can't wait.

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Speaker 4: Be back with you next Sunday. We'll talk some real

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Speaker 4: building next week. All right, have a great week, folks.

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Speaker 4: Take care and hop polland hop

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