1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,759 Speaker 1: Here the excellent from Chris Luxon go the Prime Minister 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: with me right now? Is Barry Sober, the senior our 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: senior political correspondent. 4 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 2: I totally agree with that Texter that it was excellent. 5 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 2: I thought it was a great cell of New Zealand. 6 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 2: And imagine if Taylor and what's his name Travis comes here, 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: It'll be marvelous for New Zealand. You know, the world's 8 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: media would be focused on us and doesn't matter whether 9 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: it's a bit cringey. I mean shows you can sort 10 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 2: of get down with the real people. I like it. 11 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, look it continues a long tradition of New 12 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: Zealand Prime Minister is just being really cringey. Well the 13 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: world stage. 14 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: I wouldn't put it cringey. I just think it's them 15 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 2: just acting up a but no, I think it's jolly good. 16 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, absolutely, Why not do what you can to hustle? 17 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: We need it? Okay, what do you make? I like 18 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: the supermarket announcement. 19 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,319 Speaker 2: So do I And you know, of course we're all 20 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 2: wondering how they were going to pull it off, what 21 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: they were going to do, and I think particularly the 22 00:00:55,600 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 2: one stop shop for streamlining building con that's to me, 23 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: big deal, because you know it's taken so long to 24 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 2: get consent in this country, and that's the problem with 25 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 2: this country for any business wanting to start up here. 26 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 2: I mean, they sent out a request for information and 27 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: they got twenty four replies. Some were existing, some were 28 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 2: people that were looking at coming into this country. Costco 29 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: actually Nikola Willis met with Costco and they said, if 30 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 2: these regulations were relaxed, then we would certainly look at 31 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 2: opening more widely throughout the country. And it is competition 32 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: that's what drives the prices down. I'll tell you what 33 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: Nikola will Is I think captured precisely why there is 34 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: a lack of competition in this country. Have a listened. 35 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 3: They told us that the time and cost involved in 36 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 3: applying for resource and building consents for new supermarkets creates 37 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 3: uncertainty for any new development and makes New Zealand an 38 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 3: unattractive place to set up shop. We were told it 39 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 3: take up to four years to get permission for a 40 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 3: new supermarket and that reaching that point can cost millions 41 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 3: of dollars. Several potential competitors also raise concern that existing 42 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 3: players could potentially use predatory pricing to effectively stamp out 43 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 3: new operators. We will not put up with that, and 44 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 3: so the government has agreed to strengthen provisions in the 45 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 3: Commerce Act to prevent this conduct from happening. 46 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 2: In this legislation, they're not going to muck around. It'll 47 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,399 Speaker 2: be in the House by November and I would imagine 48 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 2: these issues would be resolved early next year. So hopefully 49 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 2: we'll have some interest in other people operating supermarkets in 50 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: this country rather than the two that do so at 51 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 2: the moment. 52 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: Good news. Now do you like the idea of acting 53 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: these ministries? 54 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 2: Well, I like old Brian Roach. I know Brian quite well, 55 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 2: and it's not for him to do it. It's not 56 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: for him to merge ministry. It would have to be 57 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: a cabinet decision. But you know he looked at ministries 58 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: the like you've already mentioned Women's Affairs and PACIFICA People's 59 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 2: Disabled ministries. Now, you know, we've got a large public 60 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: service and surely the jobs that are done by those 61 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: ministries can be absorbed. Not just for your information, Heather, 62 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 2: how to lock up? How many people work at these ministries? Currently? 63 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 2: The Women's Affairs Ministry has a staff of forty two. 64 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 2: The Pacific Ministry, It has a staff of one fifty six. 65 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 2: The CEO of the Women's Ministry has paid up to 66 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 2: two hundred and ninety thousand dollars a year and the 67 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: Pacifica Ministry has paid up to five hundred grand a year. Well, 68 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 2: you know, honestly, they could be working within a larger 69 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 2: ministry and do exactly the same job as if we 70 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 2: need a women ministry. 71 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: Anyway, Am I not wrong in thinking that the Ministry 72 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: for Disabled People was recently split out of the Ministry 73 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: for Social Development? Yes, it was, so we can just 74 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: go back to it and. 75 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 2: It can be absorbed by other bigger ministries. And don't 76 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 2: forget this was in fairness to David Seymour. This is 77 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 2: something that he's been banging the drama about for some 78 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 2: time as getting rid of these small ministries. And that's 79 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 2: what they should have done when they looked at the 80 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 2: public service, which is bloated, there's no doubt about it, 81 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 2: and it always has been, it always becomes that way 82 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 2: under a labor government. They really did need to cut 83 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: back and they really haven't done the job that they 84 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 2: should have done on the public service. 85 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: Hey, so is the capping rights idea popular? 86 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 2: Ah? Well comes to no surprise, does it really. I mean, 87 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 2: if you ask people, as the taxpayer's courier, pollsters did that. Basically, 88 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 2: they were asked, the government is planning to introduce a 89 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: law which would camp how much local councils can increase 90 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: rates by you. Do you support a repose the rates 91 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 2: being capped? Well, of course, most people I would think 92 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:12,119 Speaker 2: would support rates being capped, particularly those going to no. 93 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 3: No. 94 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 2: We like rates going up, So it comes as no surprise. 95 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: And I guess you know the government will be padding 96 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 2: itself on the back. It's making a policy that is 97 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 2: generally very well thought of in the country and people 98 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 2: will be paying hopefully less for their rates than the 99 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 2: coming years. 100 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: Well if it actually happen. If it happens, thank you 101 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: Barry Bears, over seeing your political correspondent. 102 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 103 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 2: news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 104 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:45,799 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.