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Speaker 1: the big issues, the big controversies and the big conversations.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Hi, there you, Good afternoon and welcome into Weekend

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Speaker 2: Sport on News Talks EDB. For Sunday, March eight, Happy

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Speaker 2: forty second birthday to Ross Taylor, our leading run scorer

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Speaker 2: in One Day Internationals, second only to Came Williamson for

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Speaker 2: hundred matches in all three formats, over four hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty games and more than eighteen thousand runs across those

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Speaker 2: formats for the Black Apps. One of our absolute cricketing greats,

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Speaker 2: Ross Taylor celebrating today. I think he might have gone

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Speaker 2: to India? Did I see that? For this T twenty

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Speaker 2: Cricket World Cup Final. I'm Jason Pine Show produced today

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Speaker 2: Mark Kelly. We are talking sport until three and speaking

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Speaker 2: of that game, the T twenty Cricket World Cup Final

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Speaker 2: just over. What are we fourteen hours away? Black Caps

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Speaker 2: be in the year two thirty tomorrow morning, New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Time going to get you inside the black Caps camp

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Speaker 2: with Rutch and Ravendra just after one o'clock this afternoon,

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Speaker 2: and Mike Lane from the Alternative Commentary Collective has made

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Speaker 2: a mercy dash to a Metabad to take in the final.

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Speaker 2: He's with us later on today as well, as we

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Speaker 2: set the scene for what could be a pretty special

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Speaker 2: early morning in New Zealand cricket. The season opening Australian

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Speaker 2: Formula One Grand Prix set to go at five o'clock

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Speaker 2: this afternoon as well. Liam Lawson going to start from

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Speaker 2: eighth on the grid. We'll get you to Melbourne Park

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Speaker 2: after two with Australian Formula One commentator James Baldwin leading

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Speaker 2: us off today. Though Dave Reddy the new All Blacks

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Speaker 2: given the fact he was sacked as Wallaby's coach in

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Speaker 2: later and he's got the All Blacks head coaching job.

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Speaker 2: Chair of Rugby Australia at the time that Dave Rennie

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Speaker 2: was exited was Hamish mcclennan. He's standing by the chat

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Speaker 2: to us. Can you hear your thoughts on what he

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Speaker 2: has to say? As well other matters around today. Super

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Speaker 2: Rugby Pacific Round four done all done, goodwin by the

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Speaker 2: Blues over the Crusaders last night at Eden Park. Get

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Speaker 2: you inside the Blues camp to cover that one off

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Speaker 2: big weekend of sport in Auckland. Auckland f C back

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Speaker 2: and a league football action this afternoon. They take on

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Speaker 2: Perth glory Go Media Stadium from three o'clock this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Striker Logan Rogerson on the show, going to wrap the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six Golden Shears with Jamie McKay James mcconey

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Speaker 2: in his regular Sunday slot as well Live Sport this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: The second ODII between the White Ferns and Zimbabwe underway

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Speaker 2: in Dunedin. As you heard Elliott tell us during the

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Speaker 2: Sports News it was Yes, there were some pretty grim

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Speaker 2: scenes with a with an injury to one of the players,

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Speaker 2: but hopefully that will all turn out. Okay Zimbabwe betting

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Speaker 2: okay actually forty eight for one and the fourteenth over

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Speaker 2: toss earlier on today and sent Zimbabwe and we'll keep

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Speaker 2: eyes on that, and also the Planket Shield match between

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Speaker 2: Vancouver Sevens. The Black Fern Sevens have romped to an

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Speaker 2: opening thirty five five went over Great Britain despite leading

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Speaker 2: by just two points at halftime. The All Black Sevens,

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Speaker 2: at about twenty five to two in their second pull match.

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Speaker 2: Will keep eyes on those. Please join the show if

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Speaker 2: to Jason at Newstalk SEDB, dot Co dot MZ. Just

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Speaker 1: of sport Weekend Sport with Jason Vine, News Talks.

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Speaker 2: dB Dave Rennie's rugby journey has taken a remarkable turn

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Speaker 2: just over three years after being sacked as Wallaby's coach.

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Speaker 2: He has now been appointed head coach of the All Blacks.

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Speaker 2: Dave Rennie dismissed by Rugby Australia in early twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 2: a decision made while Hamish mcclennan was chair of Rugby Australia.

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Speaker 3: I've always thought Dave was a good coach. I think

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Speaker 3: I had a master plan and never got to follow

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Speaker 3: I think his challenge will be how do I rally

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Speaker 3: a big part of me that feels sorry for what

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Speaker 2: Do you still stand by the call to replace Dave

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, the simple fact is that, I mean, Eddie,

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Speaker 3: Our structure hasn't change in one hundred and twenty years,

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Speaker 3: So you know, he had a little hand in keeping

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Speaker 3: Max Jorgenson in the game as a casing point. He

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Speaker 3: of South African Rugby, so under his watch he's won

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Speaker 3: two World Cubs said that. I mean his view, so

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Speaker 3: when he got sacked by England, he had a seventy

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Speaker 3: like I hate making these, you know, or being part

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Speaker 3: And I think Dave will do a good job. And

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Speaker 3: I think New Zealand's is very different from Australia. I

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Speaker 3: think you're into the real shot. But you know, it's

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Speaker 3: it's a risk worth taking. But life is full of risks.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't. But I think

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Speaker 2: There's a couple of your comments I already want to

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Speaker 2: pick up on Hamish. The first is about Dave. Were

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Speaker 3: I've never met Joe, but I suspect he didn't either.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you guys were it could have you know,

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Speaker 3: And then I think, you know, England, up until about

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Speaker 2: It's bizarre, always so interesting chatting to your Homish. Thanks

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Speaker 2: Luck to you Toosh Hamish McLean and their former chair

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Speaker 2: There'd be coming up twenty seven to one lines open

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Speaker 7: was no real authoritative answers there. That's why Australian rugby

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Speaker 7: is in the crap.

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Speaker 2: Do you think they were right to get rid of

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Speaker 2: Dave Rennie.

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Speaker 7: No, of course not.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 7: Look, yeah they lost to Italy thirty four percent. They

434
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Speaker 7: thought they weren't going to get out of the group.

435
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Speaker 7: They didn't get out of the pool at the World Cup.

436
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Speaker 7: It didn't matter what coach they had, it was the

437
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Speaker 7: cattle that they've got. And yeah, the guy might have

438
00:24:55,347 --> 00:24:57,667
Speaker 7: had a good point about you know that not understanding

439
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Speaker 7: the way of Australian rugby, but who does Queen Queensland's

440
00:25:03,867 --> 00:25:07,267
Speaker 7: got a different way of thinking to New South Wales. Well,

441
00:25:07,467 --> 00:25:13,267
Speaker 7: they don't have a presence in Melbourne anymore. Act the

442
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Speaker 7: Brumbies are the Brumbies and Western Reds are just the

443
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Speaker 7: Western Reds and it's just a bit of an oddity

444
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Speaker 7: over there. So there's no real identity as an we know,

445
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Speaker 7: if you're an all black, you're an all black. You've

446
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Speaker 7: got an identity. You know what it's like to wear

447
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Speaker 7: the shirt and we all want to aspire to be

448
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Speaker 7: an all black when we were kids. But there's nothing

449
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Speaker 7: like that in the Wallabies. I watched the I watched

450
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Speaker 7: a bit of James James Slipper last night and you know,

451
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Speaker 7: saying about that he really wanted to play for Queensland

452
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Speaker 7: when he was a young fella, but never once did

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Speaker 7: he say about the Wallaby jersey. And I just think

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Speaker 7: that they're just they're just a bit lost on the

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Speaker 7: actual identity of what it means to be a Wallaby.

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Speaker 7: I mean, you look at those great players that they

457
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Speaker 7: had back in ninety nine when they won the World Cup.

458
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Speaker 7: Far Jones and those guys. They spoke about being in Australia,

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Speaker 7: you know what it meant to be a Wallaby. You

460
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Speaker 7: don't hear that from the Wallabies.

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Speaker 2: Now, no, yeah, and you hear it all the time

462
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Speaker 2: from our guys and the South Arians as Yeah. Tr

463
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Speaker 2: actually true, that is true too. You're right, you do

464
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Speaker 2: hear it a lot from them, and it is a

465
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Speaker 2: crowded marketplace over there. Shame we all know that, you know,

466
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Speaker 2: with NRL and AFL and cricket obviously being massive at

467
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Speaker 2: other sports as well, now starting to get a bit

468
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Speaker 2: of a foothold. You're right, they're in a battle for

469
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Speaker 2: a lot of things, battle for eyeballs, battle for sponsorship

470
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Speaker 2: dollars and battle for players, and you're right, there just

471
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Speaker 2: doesn't seem to be that diet in the wall desire

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Speaker 2: among young Australian boys and girls to grow up to

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Speaker 2: play rugby for Australia. It just doesn't seem to be there.

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Speaker 7: The sports are that far professional now than what they

475
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Speaker 7: were in the seventies and eighties. So you know, rugby

476
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Speaker 7: league and AFL were professional back then as well, but

477
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Speaker 7: now you've got academies and those type of things, so

478
00:27:01,067 --> 00:27:04,587
Speaker 7: these these sports are picking these kids up a lot younger.

479
00:27:05,787 --> 00:27:08,307
Speaker 7: You remember when the one of the Oler brothers went

480
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Speaker 7: to rugby league or or we're going to go to

481
00:27:10,907 --> 00:27:12,827
Speaker 7: rugby league back in the eighties, it was an uproar,

482
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Speaker 7: absolutely uproar. But now these tids are getting picked up

483
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Speaker 7: at fourteen fifteen, sixteen seventeen before they actually play for

484
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Speaker 7: New South Wales or Act or Queensland, so you're not

485
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Speaker 7: hearing it anymore. They're getting picked up by the rugby

486
00:27:27,307 --> 00:27:30,907
Speaker 7: leagues or the AFLs and rugby unfortunately don't get a.

487
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Speaker 5: Look at.

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Speaker 2: Good points. Well I made Shane, good to chat to

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Speaker 2: you mate, Thanks indeed, call back anytime. Oh eight hundred

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Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty heaps throw on text as well

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Speaker 2: if you want to make your point eight hundred eighty

492
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Speaker 2: ten eighty spere line there for you to jump on.

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Speaker 2: Just looking at a couple of these texts here, I'll

494
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Speaker 2: read a couple out I just asked you before we do,

495
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Speaker 2: I just want to tell you what's happened in the

496
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Speaker 2: blanket shield at McLean Park in Napier. Sorry to jump

497
00:27:55,307 --> 00:28:01,747
Speaker 2: away from the rugby momentarily, but Brett Randall, the Central

498
00:28:01,747 --> 00:28:06,787
Speaker 2: District's paceman, has this morning taken five wickets in five balls,

499
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Speaker 2: bowling for CD against nd. Of the last ball of

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Speaker 2: his second over, which was the third over of Northern's innings,

501
00:28:20,787 --> 00:28:23,947
Speaker 2: he picked up the wicket of Henry Cooper and then

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Speaker 2: on the first four deliveries of his next over he

503
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Speaker 2: took the wickets of Jeet Reval, Joe Carter, Robbie O'Donnell

504
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Speaker 2: and Christian Clark. Five wickets in five balls. Now, I

505
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Speaker 2: don't want to have a can of worms by using

506
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Speaker 2: the wrong terminology. But that is called a triple hat trick.

507
00:28:50,187 --> 00:28:52,667
Speaker 2: Now you might say, well, it can't be a triple

508
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Speaker 2: hat trick. You'd have to get nine wickets for a

509
00:28:54,627 --> 00:28:59,467
Speaker 2: triple hat trick. But cricket terminology, like it or not,

510
00:29:00,867 --> 00:29:05,987
Speaker 2: is around three wickets from three balls. So what Brett

511
00:29:06,027 --> 00:29:09,467
Speaker 2: Randall has done here is referred to as a triple

512
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Speaker 2: hat trick. I don't actually like the term myself, I

513
00:29:12,307 --> 00:29:15,787
Speaker 2: must say, but he's taken He's taken wickets off three

514
00:29:15,827 --> 00:29:19,547
Speaker 2: consecutive balls, three times off balls one, two and three,

515
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Speaker 2: off balls two, three and four, and off balls three,

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Speaker 2: four and five. Therefore he is the owner of a

517
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Speaker 2: triple hat trick. Now, when he picked up those five

518
00:29:30,707 --> 00:29:36,827
Speaker 2: wickets off five balls, Northern were nine for the loss

519
00:29:36,827 --> 00:29:40,627
Speaker 2: of five. They've since gone through to forty seven for seven,

520
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Speaker 2: so in some ways I guess they have recovered pretty well.

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Speaker 2: But Brett Randall five wickets and five balls magnificent. Evan, Hello,

522
00:29:52,067 --> 00:29:52,547
Speaker 2: can you get it?

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Speaker 8: Jason? Hey Sisley, I've only been listening to you for

524
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Speaker 8: the last couple of days, but man, you've put on

525
00:29:56,867 --> 00:29:59,027
Speaker 8: a good show, a really good radio show mate, So

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00:29:59,027 --> 00:29:59,427
Speaker 8: well done.

527
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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: That's very kind.

529
00:30:02,187 --> 00:30:04,267
Speaker 8: Just about the regulars shamed that just strings resin.

530
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Speaker 5: Do you want you old man?

531
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Speaker 8: I've played rugby. I played rugby, were not any more

532
00:30:09,547 --> 00:30:12,227
Speaker 8: but for a number of years, and I'm sort involved

533
00:30:12,267 --> 00:30:14,547
Speaker 8: with rugby CD paying touch and stuff and the things

534
00:30:14,587 --> 00:30:16,947
Speaker 8: he was saying before about the Audie kids getting picked

535
00:30:16,987 --> 00:30:19,707
Speaker 8: up by league. Man, we need to be worried here.

536
00:30:20,267 --> 00:30:22,387
Speaker 8: We have to be worried about them. We worry about ourselves.

537
00:30:22,507 --> 00:30:25,027
Speaker 8: We're getting absolutely pillaged.

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Speaker 2: You're saying it happening, and you're saying it happening in

539
00:30:27,987 --> 00:30:28,747
Speaker 2: real time, are you.

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00:30:29,507 --> 00:30:29,707
Speaker 7: Yeah?

541
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Speaker 8: Yeah, Like I mean, I played for in Auckland, I

542
00:30:33,427 --> 00:30:36,107
Speaker 8: played for the cut Out West and a number of

543
00:30:36,147 --> 00:30:39,387
Speaker 8: teams that we've got that's just shrinking, even even things

544
00:30:39,427 --> 00:30:41,827
Speaker 8: like presidents and social grades. The social grades is just

545
00:30:41,867 --> 00:30:46,627
Speaker 8: appeared completely. President grade is skeleton and those are the

546
00:30:46,627 --> 00:30:49,707
Speaker 8: fun grades. And you know, I've yeah, junior numbers seem

547
00:30:49,707 --> 00:30:51,267
Speaker 8: really good, but it's keeping the kids in it. And

548
00:30:51,867 --> 00:30:54,387
Speaker 8: also you've got the league. He's coming over raiding the academies,

549
00:30:54,427 --> 00:30:59,507
Speaker 8: reading reading the junior high school stocks. They're going, I mean,

550
00:30:59,547 --> 00:31:01,187
Speaker 8: look at the he said, there was that guy McDonald

551
00:31:01,187 --> 00:31:03,667
Speaker 8: that played for Storm on Tuesday Night. He's an Aucklander.

552
00:31:03,747 --> 00:31:05,187
Speaker 8: I'm pretty sure he came from Rugby.

553
00:31:05,627 --> 00:31:05,987
Speaker 7: Yeah.

554
00:31:06,067 --> 00:31:09,147
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I don't think it's just just Rugby League either, Evan.

555
00:31:09,187 --> 00:31:11,947
Speaker 2: I think there are a lot of options available. And

556
00:31:12,427 --> 00:31:13,947
Speaker 2: we did a piece on the show a couple of

557
00:31:13,987 --> 00:31:16,507
Speaker 2: weeks ago about the options now available to young female

558
00:31:16,547 --> 00:31:18,387
Speaker 2: athletes and you know, it used to be netball or

559
00:31:18,427 --> 00:31:20,667
Speaker 2: nothing for them. Now there's all sorts of things. Same

560
00:31:20,667 --> 00:31:22,147
Speaker 2: with the same with our young boys.

561
00:31:22,187 --> 00:31:22,307
Speaker 9: Man.

562
00:31:22,347 --> 00:31:25,787
Speaker 2: They can play basketball, they can do combat sports, snow sports,

563
00:31:25,827 --> 00:31:28,307
Speaker 2: all sorts of different things. No, you're right, even we

564
00:31:28,587 --> 00:31:30,827
Speaker 2: do need to be you know, rather than look across

565
00:31:30,827 --> 00:31:32,587
Speaker 2: the ditch and say, ah, look at you having your

566
00:31:32,587 --> 00:31:35,067
Speaker 2: sport pillaged. You're right, we do need to be aware

567
00:31:35,107 --> 00:31:35,907
Speaker 2: of what's happening here.

568
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Speaker 8: And now the NFL are here too, mates. They've got

569
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Speaker 8: a base apparently they've got to base it up on

570
00:31:40,467 --> 00:31:43,627
Speaker 8: the Gold Coast. And you know, the NFL is going

571
00:31:43,667 --> 00:31:45,747
Speaker 8: to start taking a lot of talented kids at a

572
00:31:45,787 --> 00:31:47,507
Speaker 8: younger age and putting them into those academies.

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00:31:48,907 --> 00:31:51,707
Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting times, Evan. Hey, thanks for calling mate, callback anytime.

574
00:31:52,147 --> 00:31:53,867
Speaker 2: Good to chat to you. Oh eight hundred and eighty

575
00:31:53,947 --> 00:31:55,267
Speaker 2: ten eighty is our and now we're going to get

576
00:31:55,267 --> 00:31:56,667
Speaker 2: to the Golden Shares before one.

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Speaker 10: Dallas Hello mate, yeah, pie me yeah, sever I always

578
00:32:00,787 --> 00:32:03,067
Speaker 10: love your shows too, keep up the.

579
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Speaker 11: Good work, fantastic, Thank you, Elis.

580
00:32:05,027 --> 00:32:06,667
Speaker 7: And I'll and I enjoy of that.

581
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Speaker 11: Interview with that that Australian.

582
00:32:09,827 --> 00:32:11,187
Speaker 7: Rugby guy I thought he was.

583
00:32:11,707 --> 00:32:14,427
Speaker 11: He made a lot of good points, especially about South

584
00:32:14,507 --> 00:32:17,307
Speaker 11: Africans been able to field two teams could win the

585
00:32:17,307 --> 00:32:17,867
Speaker 11: World Cup.

586
00:32:18,467 --> 00:32:19,387
Speaker 5: That was pretty scary.

587
00:32:19,787 --> 00:32:26,707
Speaker 11: Yeah, but I think rugby league here is on the

588
00:32:27,067 --> 00:32:32,867
Speaker 11: increase too. In rugby units has problems here in this country,

589
00:32:32,947 --> 00:32:37,027
Speaker 11: so I think the whole thing is changing here as well.

590
00:32:37,187 --> 00:32:40,947
Speaker 11: That if the Warriors have a good year, competitive like

591
00:32:41,027 --> 00:32:45,307
Speaker 11: the other night, then yeah, I can see league gradually

592
00:32:45,307 --> 00:32:48,027
Speaker 11: supplanting rugby union in this country as well.

593
00:32:49,227 --> 00:32:51,227
Speaker 12: But who knows.

594
00:32:51,787 --> 00:32:54,827
Speaker 11: But meanwhile, we've got a chance tomorrow morning if of

595
00:32:55,067 --> 00:32:57,347
Speaker 11: a World Cup victory in India.

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00:32:57,787 --> 00:33:00,547
Speaker 2: I know, I know, I'm getting nervous even talking about it,

597
00:33:00,547 --> 00:33:02,307
Speaker 2: and I'm actually quite quite pleased to got the radio

598
00:33:02,347 --> 00:33:04,547
Speaker 2: show the past a few hours Roche and Revender is

599
00:33:04,587 --> 00:33:06,667
Speaker 2: on the show after one incidentally, But yeah, I'm quite

600
00:33:06,667 --> 00:33:08,387
Speaker 2: nervous about this. How are you feeling about it?

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Speaker 10: Well, anything can happen in t twenty. You just have

602
00:33:12,427 --> 00:33:16,307
Speaker 10: someone luck for now and come off and we have

603
00:33:16,507 --> 00:33:20,827
Speaker 10: good batting debts. The bowlers are kind of a worry

604
00:33:22,067 --> 00:33:25,587
Speaker 10: leaking too many, but I think we'll be competitive and

605
00:33:26,027 --> 00:33:28,667
Speaker 10: who knows, there might be pressure India in front of

606
00:33:28,667 --> 00:33:30,227
Speaker 10: one hundred and twenty thousand.

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00:33:30,027 --> 00:33:34,227
Speaker 2: Ten exactly, Dallas exactly. I wouldn't want to turn up

608
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Speaker 2: and disappoint them. I'd feel the weight of that pressure.

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00:33:37,107 --> 00:33:39,267
Speaker 2: Good on you, mate, thanks for calling. Oh eight hundred

610
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Speaker 2: and eighty ten, righty Steve, Hi mate.

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Speaker 9: There's it going good?

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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00:33:44,707 --> 00:33:44,907
Speaker 7: Yeah.

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00:33:45,267 --> 00:33:47,227
Speaker 9: My point on rugby as i'm'ving around the block a

615
00:33:47,227 --> 00:33:49,307
Speaker 9: bit with rugby's done't been of couching and cg and

616
00:33:49,747 --> 00:33:52,067
Speaker 9: follow the game and canseling and still watch club games

617
00:33:52,107 --> 00:33:54,707
Speaker 9: and in PC and blah blah blah all blacks and

618
00:33:55,307 --> 00:33:59,627
Speaker 9: live and diebler. People won't like this, but I think

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Speaker 9: league in particular is the biggest scam code in the world.

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00:34:02,787 --> 00:34:04,947
Speaker 9: There would be no other sport in the world where,

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Speaker 9: in particular code rates and collagers another coach like league

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00:34:09,147 --> 00:34:11,987
Speaker 9: has done to rugby. My theory on it should be

623
00:34:12,467 --> 00:34:16,427
Speaker 9: as rugby players, even young at forteen, sign a contract

624
00:34:16,507 --> 00:34:20,667
Speaker 9: saying any money that's been invested in you through scholarships

625
00:34:20,707 --> 00:34:24,067
Speaker 9: and coaching and all that, when the NRAL scouts come over,

626
00:34:24,067 --> 00:34:27,107
Speaker 9: which they can't stop, they have to fund that money

627
00:34:27,147 --> 00:34:31,027
Speaker 9: back to rugby before the contract physically starts at that point.

628
00:34:31,307 --> 00:34:31,867
Speaker 2: Does that why?

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Speaker 13: What?

630
00:34:32,707 --> 00:34:34,547
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, makes sense? But why.

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Speaker 9: Well, on the grounds of that rugby player who he

632
00:34:38,427 --> 00:34:41,547
Speaker 9: or she has been coached, developed and money invested in

633
00:34:41,587 --> 00:34:44,347
Speaker 9: them to be the rugby player they may or may

634
00:34:44,387 --> 00:34:44,907
Speaker 9: not turn.

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00:34:44,787 --> 00:34:45,667
Speaker 7: Into in the future.

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00:34:46,907 --> 00:34:52,947
Speaker 2: So at fourteen, at fourteen years old, all the.

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Speaker 9: People that are getting paid at first thing level and

638
00:34:55,427 --> 00:34:58,587
Speaker 9: maybe fifteen they're paying two hundred thousand dollars for coaches

639
00:34:58,947 --> 00:35:01,507
Speaker 9: in perse fifteen and rugby, they're throwing a lot of

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00:35:01,507 --> 00:35:05,307
Speaker 9: money into those players through scholarships and gym work and

641
00:35:05,347 --> 00:35:08,467
Speaker 9: all that. Two you've become professional acut player and then

642
00:35:08,547 --> 00:35:10,387
Speaker 9: someone comes along with taps them on the shoulder and

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00:35:10,387 --> 00:35:13,507
Speaker 9: buy the finnished product. So I'm sure I don't have

644
00:35:13,547 --> 00:35:16,187
Speaker 9: football with You're more into that well than I am.

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Speaker 9: Surely the person that's coach developed that code where even

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Speaker 9: if it's anything to get return the investment, So that's

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Speaker 9: all it is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Steve, I understand where you're coming from. I do,

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Speaker 2: But I think it's incumbent on the code to make

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Speaker 2: that code attractive for the players to stay in. At thirteen, fourteen,

651
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Speaker 2: fifteen years old, these kids still have a lot of options.

652
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Speaker 2: They have a lot of choice. The talented ones are

653
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Speaker 2: often good at more than one thing, and I think

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Speaker 2: it's incumbent on the sport to keep them interested, to

655
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Speaker 2: keep them in the game, rather than a sport coming

656
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Speaker 2: in saying hey, come over here and we'll do this,

657
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Speaker 2: that and the other thing. I'm not sure that you

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Speaker 2: have to have to, you know, pay any compensation to

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Speaker 2: the sports that that person had previously played. What if

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Speaker 2: they'd been a good basketball player, what if they played

661
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Speaker 2: a bit of AFL cricket? Do those sports get compensated

662
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Speaker 2: as well. I know what you're saying, Steve. I understand

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Speaker 2: what you're saying. I just think it's it's got a

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Speaker 2: few little fishooks in it. Accord it to One News Talks,

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Speaker 2: he'd be back in a.

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Speaker 1: Moment where the weekend's biggest calls for me Weekend Sport

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Speaker 1: with Jason Paine and GJ. Gardner Homes New Zealand's most

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Speaker 1: trusted home Builder News Talks.

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Speaker 2: That'd be coming up eleven to one room for maybe

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Speaker 2: one more call if you'd like to make a comment

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Speaker 2: on anything you've heard this out eight hundred and eighty

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Speaker 2: ten eighty Well, I get to Golden Shares a bit

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Speaker 2: later on in the afternoon. I do want to cover

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Speaker 2: it off though it's an iconic event held in Masterton

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Speaker 2: and some good key. We success there last night, so

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Speaker 2: we will cover the off. Paul says, let's be clear, Piney,

677
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Speaker 2: there's no raping and pillaging going on. It's called kids

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Speaker 2: making a choice. And if it's Disneyland rather than Rainbow's end,

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Speaker 2: so be it. I think we all understand the analogy

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Speaker 2: you're drawing their Paul.

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Speaker 13: Thanks.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, hamis McLennan approven operator and the catalyst to the

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Speaker 2: turn around of Australian rugby, although with some controversy, David

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Speaker 2: Kirk is just superior all round, as is currently being demonstrated.

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Speaker 2: Having worked at a senior level in Australia, I share

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Speaker 2: the view Australians certainly have a different psyche, not better,

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Speaker 2: just different, like I think anybody, and I'm sure many

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Speaker 2: of you have dealt in business with people from across

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Speaker 2: the Tasman and much as we do share a lot

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Speaker 2: of the same character traits, we are also in subtle

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Speaker 2: and not so subtle ways different. Another text here, the

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Speaker 2: Ossies aren't just hard nosed in sport, Jason, they're hard

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Speaker 2: nosed in business too. I hope we show them up

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Speaker 2: at the World Cup to prove that being hard nosed

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Speaker 2: isn't always the formula for winning, and therein lies the

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Speaker 2: beauty of this whole discussion, the fact that there's no

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Speaker 2: right or wrong here. If the Australian way of approaching rugby,

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Speaker 2: or approaching sport and general was the best way, then

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Speaker 2: why haven't they won a Rugby World Cup since nineteen

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Speaker 2: ninety nine. Why haven't they had the Bledisloe Cups in

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Speaker 2: two thousand and three. In the latest T twenty Cricket

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Speaker 2: World Cup, why do they get knocked out in the

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Speaker 2: group stages. There's no right or wrong here. There are

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Speaker 2: just different approaches to things. Brett Randall, this is outstanding

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Speaker 2: from Brett Randall. Not only has he taken five wickets

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Speaker 2: and five balls, he's also taken seven wickets today seven

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Speaker 2: he has seven for seventeen. Crazy Northern have actually sort

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Speaker 2: of put a bit of a rearguard action in here.

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Speaker 2: They were at one stage fifteen for the loss of seven.

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Speaker 2: Brett Randall had all seven. He could do the oldne

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Speaker 2: all ten wickets because they're still only seven down. Northern.

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Speaker 2: They have though, started to claw their way back in

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Speaker 2: Baratt Popli, who had to watch all of these wickets

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Speaker 2: pretty much fall from the other end is thirteen not out.

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Speaker 2: Tim Pringle, batting at number nine, is unbeaten on twenty one.

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Speaker 2: He's decided I'm not going to muck about. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to take it to the likes of Brett Randall and

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Speaker 2: the other CD bowlers. So he's twenty one not out,

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Speaker 2: fifty four for seven. They're chasing Central's three seventy three,

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Speaker 2: so still a long long way away from even even

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Speaker 2: avoiding the follow on. I just hope Brett Randal gets

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Speaker 2: all ten. I hope he gives it the Ageazz Patel

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Speaker 2: from Dunedin where the White Ferns are playing Zimbabwe in

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Speaker 2: the second of their One Day internationals. Seventy four for

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Speaker 2: seven Zimbabwe, and they've had a batter retire hurt, or

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Speaker 2: rather a rather grim set of circumstances that saw they're

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Speaker 2: opening batter retire hurt. So they're effectively eight down seventy

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Speaker 2: four for seven on the scoreboard. Melly Kerr not quite

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Speaker 2: Brett Randall numbers, but six overs four for sixteen. Molly

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Speaker 2: Penfold has three for seventeen. Pinty national coach as a

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Speaker 2: man managers, says Jordan managing Kiwi teams is buying into

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Speaker 2: our rich and diverse Moldi and Pacific culture and the

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Speaker 2: pride we put in the jerseys. Being coaches of Australian

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Speaker 2: teams not rich on culture for whatever reason, they rely

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Speaker 2: on technical coaching. Kiwi coaches have never worked over there,

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Speaker 2: even in the NRL. Thanks Jordan seven to one News

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Speaker 2: Stalks EDB.

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Speaker 1: The biggest names in sport are here Weekend Sport with

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Speaker 1: Jason Vine News Talks.

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Speaker 2: EDB News Talks HEB four to one. Our New Zealand

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Speaker 2: cricket statistician Francis Payne has confirmed Brett Randall as the

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Speaker 2: first player in New Zealand first class history to take

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Speaker 2: five wickets in five balls, the first ever in New

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Speaker 2: Zealand first class cricket. He also took six wickets and

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Speaker 2: eight balls, the first guy ever to do that as well.

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Speaker 2: John says Jason. The issue with Dave Rennie at Australia

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Speaker 2: they expected a fast food result. Dave's a craftsman of

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Speaker 2: the game. He builds depth and a deep squad, as

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Speaker 2: he did with the Chiefs. My concern as Dave Rennie

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Speaker 2: will again be expected to deliver a happy meal with

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Speaker 2: the All Blacks so close to a World Cup. Nice analogy. John,

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Speaker 2: Let's hope not. Francis says, will you be talking about

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Speaker 2: last night's game Blues Crusaders keen to hear such a

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Speaker 2: great win, Yes, Francis. Actually Paul Tental going to join

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Speaker 2: us after one o'clock to talk about that. But first

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Speaker 2: up after the one o'clock news to India, we go

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Speaker 2: Rachen Ravendra after the news.

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Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on.

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Speaker 2: A head off the field.

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Speaker 3: You've got a score enough.

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Speaker 1: It's all on Weekend Sports with Jason Vine on your

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Speaker 1: home of sports News.

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Speaker 2: Talks at ME one seven on News Talks every this

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Speaker 2: weekend Sport. I'm Jason Pine. Mark Kelly is here as well.

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Speaker 2: I said before one that Brett Randall's five wickets and

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Speaker 2: five balls was the best in New Zealand first class

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Speaker 2: cricket history. That is true, but it is also the

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Speaker 2: time anybody in the entire history of first class cricket

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Speaker 2: globally has taken five wickets and five balls. Think about

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Speaker 2: how long first class cricket has been played around the world,

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Speaker 2: how many first class matches there have been. Goodness only

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Speaker 2: knows what that number is. No one before today had

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Speaker 2: ever taken five wickets in five balls. Brett Randall with

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Speaker 2: a wonderful slice of history. Congratulations to him to get

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Speaker 2: him on the show. Eight past one. Speaking of cricket,

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Speaker 2: the Black Caps are on the brink of more history

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Speaker 2: as they prepare to face India in the final of

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Speaker 2: the ICC Men's T twenty World Cup tomorrow morning two thirty.

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Speaker 2: New Zealand time. One of the key figures in New

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Speaker 2: Zealand's run to the final or Rounder Rutch and Ravendra.

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Speaker 14: That should be another for Revendra All his third Finelum

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Speaker 14: with the catch. The all round are doing the job

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Speaker 14: with the ball going up. It's going up, Mitchell getting in,

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Speaker 14: getting in big hands safety underneath that Revenger.

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Speaker 2: Has got four Ruch and Revendeer. It joins us now

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Speaker 2: out of India. Rutch and thanks for your time. A

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Speaker 2: World Cup final whatevery young cricketer dreams about. I'm sure,

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Speaker 2: how are you feeling in the lead up to such

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Speaker 2: a massive occasion.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, for sure, obviously it's something your dreamail as.

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Speaker 6: A kid and to see yourself play on this we

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Speaker 6: have the opportunity to play on the stage is pretty special.

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Speaker 6: And playing India in their home conditions in front of

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Speaker 6: you know, one hundred and twenty hundred and thirty thousand people.

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Speaker 15: In the stadium is going to be truly incredible.

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Speaker 6: Obviously that the nerves and stuff are always there and

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Speaker 6: the lead up for training and stuff, but no, it's

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Speaker 6: it would be good fun.

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Speaker 2: The semi final win over South Africa by nine wickets

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Speaker 2: utterly emphatic. What did that performance do for the confidence

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Speaker 2: of the team heading into the final?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I think it's massive.

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Speaker 6: I mean, when you're in tournament cricket, you sort of

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Speaker 6: get on a roll and end up playing, you know,

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Speaker 6: a bit of good cricket and each game you take

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Speaker 6: it a little bit of comfort. I think something that

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Speaker 6: fat and fatic, the way Siphan ben chase that down

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Speaker 6: was incredible and I think leave us a good said

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Speaker 6: for the final.

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Speaker 2: I just want to take you back to the batting innings.

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Speaker 2: You came in to join Finellen at one hundred and

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Speaker 2: seventeen for one, you're chasing one seventy. You get through

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Speaker 2: to one thirty seven for one after ten overs. You

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Speaker 2: take a single off the third ball of the eleventh

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Speaker 2: over that takes New Zealand to one thirty eight for one.

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Speaker 2: Finellen then goes four six one to keep the strike

817
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Speaker 2: four four six six four. You have won by nine

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Speaker 2: wickets with seven overs to spare. He's gone from fifty

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Speaker 2: eight to one hundred not out in eleven balls. What

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Speaker 2: was it like watching that innings from the other end.

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Speaker 6: It's honestly undelabed by I think you look at our

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Speaker 6: two openers and you see the way they go about it.

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Speaker 15: For me, it's honestly unfathomable. Sometimes the power and the hitting,

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Speaker 15: it's it's.

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Speaker 6: Almost a different game, you know, And it's it's awesome

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Speaker 6: to have that power at the top of the order.

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Speaker 15: I mean when I walked.

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Speaker 6: Out about I sort of had an inkling fin was

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Speaker 6: going to get there because it was just the rhythm

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Speaker 6: and timing.

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Speaker 15: Everything he was showing was incredible.

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Speaker 2: It was outstanding. I spoke to Fin Allen last week

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Speaker 2: on the radio. Actually he was frustrated, he said, by

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Speaker 2: getting twenties and thirties and not going on with them.

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Speaker 2: Did you sense a real desire in Finaleen to convert

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Speaker 2: a big one in such a big game?

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Speaker 10: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: It's always an interesting one in betting, and finally not

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Speaker 6: it's like it's sort of the harder you try to

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Speaker 6: push on after starts, the worse it gets because all

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Speaker 6: of a sudden, you know, sort of milk a little

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Speaker 6: bit or not for the team first.

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Speaker 15: And I think that's Finn one of his biggest strengths.

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Speaker 6: He sort of always takes the game on in his

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Speaker 6: own way, and sometimes it comes off and like an

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Speaker 6: amazing not ote hundred the other day, But even if

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Speaker 6: he gets twenty or thirty, he gets us off to

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Speaker 6: an amazing start. So either way, you know, whatever he's doing,

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Speaker 6: it's contributing to our team.

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Speaker 2: Your bowling role, right, and at this tournament's been fascinating

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Speaker 2: to watch your bowl eleven wickets, a terrific economy rate.

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Speaker 2: What's been the key to finding success with the ball

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Speaker 2: in these conditions?

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Speaker 15: I guess just trying to use my skill and ability.

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Speaker 6: I think obviously it's amazing to have Santana next to

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Speaker 6: me and being able to chat to them about a

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Speaker 6: few things, but just trying to spin the ball hard

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Speaker 6: and keep it, you know, the life hard for the

859
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Speaker 6: batter is I guess for me being a vestment primarily

860
00:46:24,627 --> 00:46:27,707
Speaker 6: it's quite handy because I get to think like about it,

861
00:46:27,707 --> 00:46:29,387
Speaker 6: you know what I mean? So I can hopefully be

862
00:46:29,387 --> 00:46:31,147
Speaker 6: a bit defensive when I feel like they're coming or

863
00:46:31,347 --> 00:46:33,427
Speaker 6: keeping out of the ark and stuff. So just trying

864
00:46:33,427 --> 00:46:35,787
Speaker 6: to stay one step ahead of the game. Obviously that

865
00:46:35,827 --> 00:46:38,347
Speaker 6: the wickets and street ankle are quite conducive for spin bowling,

866
00:46:38,347 --> 00:46:39,907
Speaker 6: but you know, you get back over to here to

867
00:46:39,987 --> 00:46:41,867
Speaker 6: India and it's sitting there a bit flatter. So it's

868
00:46:41,867 --> 00:46:43,987
Speaker 6: always always an adaptation piece in our game.

869
00:46:44,147 --> 00:46:47,187
Speaker 2: I've seen you've spoken about varying your pace, your ceam,

870
00:46:47,187 --> 00:46:49,427
Speaker 2: angle lines, lenks, that sort of thing to make things

871
00:46:49,427 --> 00:46:53,907
Speaker 2: difficult for opposition batters. You're only bowling twenty four deliveries, max,

872
00:46:53,947 --> 00:46:56,467
Speaker 2: aren't you in any one game? How much planning actually

873
00:46:56,507 --> 00:46:59,827
Speaker 2: goes into each spell in a T twenty game?

874
00:47:01,307 --> 00:47:05,027
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's It's always interesting because I probably plan a

875
00:47:05,027 --> 00:47:06,747
Speaker 6: bit more with a bat than the ball. I sort

876
00:47:06,787 --> 00:47:08,947
Speaker 6: of not necessarily just rock up, but it's a bit

877
00:47:08,947 --> 00:47:12,787
Speaker 6: more of natural craft for me in terms of my preparation.

878
00:47:13,307 --> 00:47:15,627
Speaker 6: I guess we talk a lot as a spin group, though,

879
00:47:15,667 --> 00:47:18,267
Speaker 6: and we talk about each batter and what lines we

880
00:47:18,307 --> 00:47:20,187
Speaker 6: can bolt to them and how to shut them down

881
00:47:20,187 --> 00:47:20,827
Speaker 6: and fields.

882
00:47:20,587 --> 00:47:20,987
Speaker 15: Et cetera.

883
00:47:21,067 --> 00:47:23,867
Speaker 6: So that that goes quite That makes the difference in

884
00:47:23,907 --> 00:47:27,427
Speaker 6: terms of what we plan for, and I mean a

885
00:47:27,427 --> 00:47:29,307
Speaker 6: lot of the time it's instinct, right, you get a

886
00:47:29,307 --> 00:47:31,187
Speaker 6: feeling you want to bowl this ball more than not.

887
00:47:31,627 --> 00:47:35,147
Speaker 6: You trust your gut and hopefully execute because it can

888
00:47:35,147 --> 00:47:36,467
Speaker 6: get quite complicated out there.

889
00:47:36,667 --> 00:47:39,627
Speaker 2: So India's batting lineup stacked with power and a lot

890
00:47:39,627 --> 00:47:41,987
Speaker 2: of left handers as well. How tricky a challenge does

891
00:47:42,027 --> 00:47:44,627
Speaker 2: that present for you as a left arm spinner.

892
00:47:45,467 --> 00:47:47,827
Speaker 6: Yeah, sure, I mean the matchup's not really quite there

893
00:47:47,987 --> 00:47:51,067
Speaker 6: left up spin to left handers in today's T twenty game,

894
00:47:51,147 --> 00:47:53,147
Speaker 6: it's you're always going to be a little bit under

895
00:47:53,147 --> 00:47:54,467
Speaker 6: the put because they're gonna want to take you down.

896
00:47:54,507 --> 00:47:56,987
Speaker 6: But I think that's that's quite an exciting opportunity. You know,

897
00:47:57,067 --> 00:48:01,067
Speaker 6: you potentially a chance for a wicket, and you know,

898
00:48:01,107 --> 00:48:02,947
Speaker 6: you feel like you're in the game. And obviously it's

899
00:48:03,267 --> 00:48:04,667
Speaker 6: you know you can get it for a few bombs,

900
00:48:04,707 --> 00:48:08,987
Speaker 6: but that's part of the game. But I think for us,

901
00:48:08,987 --> 00:48:11,667
Speaker 6: it's just understanding who you're bowling to, what your role

902
00:48:11,747 --> 00:48:13,987
Speaker 6: is at that time. Obviously, it's nice having Satin at

903
00:48:13,987 --> 00:48:16,307
Speaker 6: the other end because I don't score too much of him,

904
00:48:16,347 --> 00:48:18,827
Speaker 6: so they always try to take me down a little bit.

905
00:48:19,787 --> 00:48:21,787
Speaker 15: But Yeah, the matchup game would be huge.

906
00:48:21,827 --> 00:48:24,187
Speaker 6: And the cool thing is we've got spin that spins

907
00:48:24,187 --> 00:48:26,187
Speaker 6: able both ways in terms of a couple off spinners

908
00:48:26,187 --> 00:48:29,267
Speaker 6: and a couple left dump office, so we've got bases covered,

909
00:48:29,267 --> 00:48:29,987
Speaker 6: which is quite nice.

910
00:48:30,027 --> 00:48:33,587
Speaker 2: Indeed. So a final in India against India at this

911
00:48:34,267 --> 00:48:37,347
Speaker 2: massive stadium, a huge home crowd, a lot of noise,

912
00:48:38,027 --> 00:48:40,067
Speaker 2: how do you block that out, ruch and and focus

913
00:48:40,107 --> 00:48:41,547
Speaker 2: on the job at hand when you're out there in

914
00:48:41,587 --> 00:48:41,947
Speaker 2: the middle.

915
00:48:42,787 --> 00:48:44,627
Speaker 15: Yeah, it's always an interesting one. I guess.

916
00:48:44,387 --> 00:48:46,627
Speaker 6: The whole thing about blocking it like it's going to

917
00:48:46,707 --> 00:48:49,947
Speaker 6: be there, I think first of all, accepting almost the

918
00:48:49,987 --> 00:48:52,747
Speaker 6: pressure and what it's going to feel like, because you

919
00:48:52,787 --> 00:48:55,107
Speaker 6: know you're going up against the billion plus people who

920
00:48:55,627 --> 00:48:58,267
Speaker 6: are obviously going to be behind India, and the noise

921
00:48:58,587 --> 00:49:00,827
Speaker 6: at that grand the met A bed is crazy. So

922
00:49:02,307 --> 00:49:04,267
Speaker 6: for us, it's just keeping it simple, I think, and

923
00:49:04,827 --> 00:49:07,307
Speaker 6: being as present as possible that and focusing on the

924
00:49:07,347 --> 00:49:09,907
Speaker 6: next play, you know, the next ball, whatever is that,

925
00:49:09,947 --> 00:49:12,787
Speaker 6: whatever that importance is. Because in finals it's so easy

926
00:49:12,787 --> 00:49:14,667
Speaker 6: to get hit yourself, it's so easy to look at

927
00:49:15,107 --> 00:49:17,387
Speaker 6: the winning and losing of it. But there's a reason

928
00:49:17,387 --> 00:49:19,267
Speaker 6: why we got there, and I think that's by you know,

929
00:49:19,347 --> 00:49:22,587
Speaker 6: playing each moment. So and I think there's no real

930
00:49:22,587 --> 00:49:24,507
Speaker 6: way to completely block out the crowd. I mean, they're

931
00:49:24,507 --> 00:49:26,387
Speaker 6: always going to be there, but we're not bad. I

932
00:49:26,427 --> 00:49:29,787
Speaker 6: don't really hear it. So hopefully I combat for some time.

933
00:49:30,267 --> 00:49:33,347
Speaker 2: So the black Caps I mean close and global tournaments

934
00:49:33,387 --> 00:49:36,107
Speaker 2: a number of times in recent years. What would it

935
00:49:36,147 --> 00:49:39,187
Speaker 2: mean to this group to finally win a World Cup?

936
00:49:40,307 --> 00:49:44,667
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's been awesome, you know, the black Caps team

937
00:49:44,707 --> 00:49:46,747
Speaker 6: over the last you know, ten or so years has

938
00:49:46,747 --> 00:49:49,627
Speaker 6: been amazing and we've we've made a lot of world

939
00:49:49,627 --> 00:49:52,107
Speaker 6: events and we've had a you know fiarshear of heartbreak

940
00:49:52,307 --> 00:49:55,947
Speaker 6: and the time being as well. So look, it's obviously

941
00:49:56,387 --> 00:49:58,787
Speaker 6: if we go opportunity it'll be as it will be fantastic.

942
00:49:58,827 --> 00:50:01,307
Speaker 6: But either way, I'm proud of the group and how

943
00:50:01,387 --> 00:50:04,787
Speaker 6: we've evolved and developed as a T twenty team, and

944
00:50:04,867 --> 00:50:07,787
Speaker 6: super proud of the results. And hopefully we're inspiring evone

945
00:50:07,827 --> 00:50:10,427
Speaker 6: back home, because that's really what's important here.

946
00:50:10,547 --> 00:50:13,107
Speaker 2: You're certainly doing that. So just to finish, when the

947
00:50:13,147 --> 00:50:16,147
Speaker 2: anthems are all done and you look around that stadium

948
00:50:16,147 --> 00:50:17,987
Speaker 2: before the first ball, whether you're out there in the

949
00:50:17,987 --> 00:50:20,227
Speaker 2: field or you're sitting there with your pads on watching

950
00:50:20,787 --> 00:50:23,667
Speaker 2: Finalen and Tim Seifer get ready to face the first ball.

951
00:50:23,867 --> 00:50:26,347
Speaker 2: What do you want the mindset of the black Caps

952
00:50:26,707 --> 00:50:27,947
Speaker 2: to be in that moment?

953
00:50:29,747 --> 00:50:30,627
Speaker 15: I guess come.

954
00:50:31,987 --> 00:50:34,187
Speaker 6: The thing is with these games, there's always a lot

955
00:50:34,187 --> 00:50:36,627
Speaker 6: of distractions, a lot of chaos around, right, So for

956
00:50:36,747 --> 00:50:41,107
Speaker 6: give me calm and shell and understand what the task.

957
00:50:40,867 --> 00:50:42,667
Speaker 15: At hand is. I think that will go a long way.

958
00:50:42,667 --> 00:50:46,147
Speaker 6: But also playing our way, but also not you know,

959
00:50:46,187 --> 00:50:49,507
Speaker 6: fearing the big moments and taking them on, because that's

960
00:50:49,547 --> 00:50:50,307
Speaker 6: T twenty credit.

961
00:50:50,347 --> 00:50:50,507
Speaker 5: You know.

962
00:50:50,587 --> 00:50:53,667
Speaker 6: It's if you take a step back you find out,

963
00:50:53,787 --> 00:50:54,947
Speaker 6: you know, you're one or two balls of that, you

964
00:50:55,027 --> 00:50:55,787
Speaker 6: end up losing the game.

965
00:50:55,787 --> 00:50:59,027
Speaker 15: It's such fine margins. So it's taking the game on

966
00:50:59,187 --> 00:51:00,507
Speaker 15: and do it in that way.

967
00:51:00,867 --> 00:51:04,027
Speaker 2: Well, I can tell you Rach and this won't surprise you.

968
00:51:04,067 --> 00:51:06,547
Speaker 2: Many thousands of people are sitting there alarms for just

969
00:51:06,587 --> 00:51:08,747
Speaker 2: before two thirty tomorrow morning to get up and watch

970
00:51:08,787 --> 00:51:11,867
Speaker 2: your take on India in this T twenty final. Very

971
00:51:11,867 --> 00:51:14,467
Speaker 2: exciting times back here, very exciting for you as well.

972
00:51:14,467 --> 00:51:17,227
Speaker 2: Congrats on your part in getting New Zealand to the final.

973
00:51:17,307 --> 00:51:19,307
Speaker 2: All the best and thanks as always for the chat.

974
00:51:19,427 --> 00:51:20,827
Speaker 15: That stress. Yes, party appreciate it.

975
00:51:20,827 --> 00:51:22,747
Speaker 2: No, I appreciate you joining us right and thanks indeed,

976
00:51:22,827 --> 00:51:25,027
Speaker 2: Ruch and Ravendra there ahead of the T twenty World

977
00:51:25,027 --> 00:51:27,747
Speaker 2: Cup final. You look at his numbers in this T

978
00:51:27,747 --> 00:51:30,827
Speaker 2: twenty World Cup, eleven wickets at an average of just

979
00:51:30,907 --> 00:51:34,547
Speaker 2: ten point six four and an economy of six point

980
00:51:34,547 --> 00:51:37,347
Speaker 2: eight eight. Look anything under seven runs and over in

981
00:51:37,427 --> 00:51:40,747
Speaker 2: T twenty cricket. We know how good that is. Mitchell

982
00:51:40,827 --> 00:51:45,267
Speaker 2: Santna is another with superb economy at this tournament. He's

983
00:51:45,307 --> 00:51:48,427
Speaker 2: only taken two wickets across the tournament, but his runs

984
00:51:48,467 --> 00:51:53,227
Speaker 2: parover just six point three three runs parover. Ready good economy.

985
00:51:53,267 --> 00:51:56,467
Speaker 2: And Matt Henry is the other one who has combined

986
00:51:56,507 --> 00:51:59,667
Speaker 2: wickets with economy and in amongst all of this as

987
00:51:59,667 --> 00:52:04,427
Speaker 2: well a flight back home to be here for the

988
00:52:04,427 --> 00:52:08,747
Speaker 2: birth of his latest child and then back to India

989
00:52:09,987 --> 00:52:12,507
Speaker 2: like around trip in the space of about four or

990
00:52:12,547 --> 00:52:15,547
Speaker 2: five days, nine wickets for one hundred and eighty six

991
00:52:15,627 --> 00:52:18,427
Speaker 2: runs and average of about twenty his economy seven point

992
00:52:18,547 --> 00:52:22,787
Speaker 2: sixty five runs per over. So the economy of New

993
00:52:22,907 --> 00:52:26,947
Speaker 2: Zealand's bowlers has been rarely really integral to their success.

994
00:52:28,147 --> 00:52:30,627
Speaker 2: And then you look at the batting and you can't

995
00:52:30,667 --> 00:52:33,827
Speaker 2: go past these two at the top. What an inspired

996
00:52:33,947 --> 00:52:39,227
Speaker 2: decision to select both Tim Seiford and Fin Allen for

997
00:52:39,307 --> 00:52:42,707
Speaker 2: this tournament outside of central contracts for the Black Apps,

998
00:52:43,747 --> 00:52:46,387
Speaker 2: guys who make their living traveling the world and playing

999
00:52:46,867 --> 00:52:52,467
Speaker 2: franchise cricket. Seifered two hundred and seventy four runs at

1000
00:52:52,467 --> 00:52:54,347
Speaker 2: an average of forty five and a strike rate of

1001
00:52:54,347 --> 00:52:58,267
Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty one. Finellen one hundred, two hundred

1002
00:52:58,267 --> 00:53:00,547
Speaker 2: and eighty nine runs and an average of fifty seven,

1003
00:53:00,747 --> 00:53:04,547
Speaker 2: striking it over two hundred, including that absolutely remarkable one

1004
00:53:04,667 --> 00:53:07,827
Speaker 2: hundred last time out. Need to show of hands. We

1005
00:53:07,867 --> 00:53:10,867
Speaker 2: can do it by text. Who's getting up for this? Look?

1006
00:53:10,907 --> 00:53:13,067
Speaker 2: I know that you don't have to. You can watch it,

1007
00:53:13,467 --> 00:53:15,267
Speaker 2: you know on delay. You can get up a bit

1008
00:53:15,347 --> 00:53:18,507
Speaker 2: later and watch it on delay and avoid the score

1009
00:53:18,627 --> 00:53:20,147
Speaker 2: or Whatever'll get up in the morning and just check

1010
00:53:20,187 --> 00:53:22,667
Speaker 2: the score, that sort of thing. But I feel like

1011
00:53:22,747 --> 00:53:24,347
Speaker 2: this is one you've got to get up live for.

1012
00:53:25,667 --> 00:53:28,947
Speaker 2: And here's here's what I would encourage you to do.

1013
00:53:29,747 --> 00:53:34,787
Speaker 2: Set your alarm for two twenty two tomorrow morning. Nathan

1014
00:53:34,827 --> 00:53:39,227
Speaker 2: asht all time two twenty two. The game is set

1015
00:53:39,267 --> 00:53:41,987
Speaker 2: to begin at about two thirty, so unless you want

1016
00:53:41,987 --> 00:53:44,067
Speaker 2: to watch the build up, which is always good to watch,

1017
00:53:44,067 --> 00:53:47,347
Speaker 2: but to twenty two is when I've set my alarm

1018
00:53:47,387 --> 00:53:49,747
Speaker 2: for I encourage you to do the same, Mark, will

1019
00:53:49,787 --> 00:53:50,307
Speaker 2: you join me?

1020
00:53:52,147 --> 00:53:57,027
Speaker 16: I am definitely joining. Yeah, it's going to be it's

1021
00:53:57,067 --> 00:53:59,347
Speaker 16: going to be a push. It's not going to be

1022
00:53:59,427 --> 00:54:01,587
Speaker 16: it's going to be messy. Looks lext face it. I

1023
00:54:01,587 --> 00:54:03,747
Speaker 16: think thirty six hours later it's going to be pretty

1024
00:54:03,827 --> 00:54:05,547
Speaker 16: ugly on Tuesday night.

1025
00:54:06,707 --> 00:54:09,947
Speaker 7: Not be great, but I'm prepared.

1026
00:54:09,387 --> 00:54:09,827
Speaker 2: To do it.

1027
00:54:09,867 --> 00:54:13,227
Speaker 16: But look when you see about the Randolph performance, I

1028
00:54:13,307 --> 00:54:20,107
Speaker 16: just jumped online and rewounds the YouTube and look, twelve balls,

1029
00:54:20,547 --> 00:54:26,587
Speaker 16: seven wickets, last ball of the second over over the

1030
00:54:26,587 --> 00:54:30,667
Speaker 16: work at bowls Cooper top of off. Then first ball

1031
00:54:30,747 --> 00:54:34,467
Speaker 16: of the second off the stirred over round the wicket

1032
00:54:34,827 --> 00:54:39,187
Speaker 16: bowls Jeep Raval top of off. These are great balls

1033
00:54:39,227 --> 00:54:42,227
Speaker 16: when you see them. There's no bunny stuff going on

1034
00:54:42,347 --> 00:54:46,747
Speaker 16: in terms of what he accomplishes. Then he knicks Carter

1035
00:54:47,307 --> 00:54:52,387
Speaker 16: Joe Carter behind to the keeper, really impressive. Then he

1036
00:54:52,827 --> 00:54:55,787
Speaker 16: Robbie o'donald nexts them to about fourth slip.

1037
00:54:55,867 --> 00:54:57,387
Speaker 5: You can't see, but it's pretty.

1038
00:54:57,147 --> 00:55:03,707
Speaker 16: Square the way it goes then Clark, Christian Clark plays

1039
00:55:03,707 --> 00:55:07,707
Speaker 16: the ball down and behind himself. It bounces off and

1040
00:55:07,747 --> 00:55:10,907
Speaker 16: it bounces up and down onto the bail and takes

1041
00:55:10,947 --> 00:55:16,867
Speaker 16: the bail off. That's the only bunny Pomari's league before.

1042
00:55:17,267 --> 00:55:20,587
Speaker 5: Like that's straight, it's just plum.

1043
00:55:20,787 --> 00:55:24,907
Speaker 16: And then kugar line, which is he's caught at mid

1044
00:55:25,027 --> 00:55:29,307
Speaker 16: on after three after honest fourth ball, and that's just

1045
00:55:29,427 --> 00:55:33,747
Speaker 16: seven and it's just wild to watch. It really is

1046
00:55:34,467 --> 00:55:37,307
Speaker 16: very impressive. I don't even know who this guy is.

1047
00:55:37,347 --> 00:55:38,107
Speaker 5: Who is Rander?

1048
00:55:38,627 --> 00:55:40,667
Speaker 2: I thought you were a brother. I thought you were

1049
00:55:40,667 --> 00:55:42,907
Speaker 2: his brother the way you've outlined it, or Mark I thought.

1050
00:55:43,787 --> 00:55:47,387
Speaker 2: I mean, this is just outstanding commentary from you, going

1051
00:55:47,427 --> 00:55:49,987
Speaker 2: through all seven of us wickets. You know, Brenda's been

1052
00:55:49,987 --> 00:55:51,787
Speaker 2: around for a while as a you know, he's been

1053
00:55:51,987 --> 00:55:56,587
Speaker 2: a very very handy domestic bowler for CD for a while.

1054
00:55:56,987 --> 00:55:59,827
Speaker 2: I think sometimes it's just your day. And as you say,

1055
00:55:59,867 --> 00:56:01,987
Speaker 2: these aren't caught on the boundary, these are you know,

1056
00:56:02,187 --> 00:56:04,547
Speaker 2: as you say, two or three of them bold and

1057
00:56:04,707 --> 00:56:07,027
Speaker 2: lb w court behind caught the what's called on This

1058
00:56:07,067 --> 00:56:08,147
Speaker 2: is a superb skirl.

1059
00:56:08,267 --> 00:56:11,147
Speaker 16: What you want a roundly good bowling, really good bowling.

1060
00:56:11,307 --> 00:56:12,987
Speaker 2: You want to get the other three. Now, yeah, you

1061
00:56:12,987 --> 00:56:15,027
Speaker 2: wanted to get the other three, you wanted to get ten?

1062
00:56:16,547 --> 00:56:16,867
Speaker 3: You do.

1063
00:56:17,227 --> 00:56:20,587
Speaker 16: Popley and Pringle, I will say they've sort of dug in.

1064
00:56:20,787 --> 00:56:24,467
Speaker 16: I'll give them their due at the moment they're popularly

1065
00:56:24,547 --> 00:56:28,427
Speaker 16: sturdying from off forty four and Pringles twenty one off

1066
00:56:28,467 --> 00:56:34,947
Speaker 16: forty seven. So the best more than more than three

1067
00:56:35,027 --> 00:56:40,147
Speaker 16: fits of the runs. There's hope if you're if you're

1068
00:56:40,147 --> 00:56:43,707
Speaker 16: an MD fan, if you're not, come on Randall.

1069
00:56:43,827 --> 00:56:45,667
Speaker 2: Come on Random, good on your mark. Great to hear

1070
00:56:45,707 --> 00:56:47,787
Speaker 2: you call now you'll be interested to know also that

1071
00:56:47,827 --> 00:56:50,427
Speaker 2: Brett Randall isn't the only one to have taken seven

1072
00:56:50,467 --> 00:56:55,147
Speaker 2: wickets today. Mellly Kerr has just taken the final Zimbabwe

1073
00:56:55,187 --> 00:56:57,787
Speaker 2: wicket to bowl them out for one hundred and two.

1074
00:56:58,467 --> 00:57:02,027
Speaker 2: Merely Kerr nine point one overs one maiden seven for

1075
00:57:02,147 --> 00:57:06,067
Speaker 2: thirty four, seven for thirty four for Merely Kerr by

1076
00:57:06,067 --> 00:57:10,427
Speaker 2: far her best One Day International figures. So seven wickets

1077
00:57:10,427 --> 00:57:15,147
Speaker 2: the order of the day, domestically and internationally terrific. One

1078
00:57:15,107 --> 00:57:17,187
Speaker 2: twenty two. When we come back inside the Blues camp

1079
00:57:17,227 --> 00:57:19,627
Speaker 2: will go they've beaten the Crusaders for the first time,

1080
00:57:20,067 --> 00:57:21,587
Speaker 2: not the first time in a while, but certainly it

1081
00:57:21,627 --> 00:57:24,027
Speaker 2: doesn't happen very often. They did it last night at

1082
00:57:24,187 --> 00:57:26,547
Speaker 2: Eden Park. Paul Tito, assistant coach of the Blues.

1083
00:57:26,587 --> 00:57:30,667
Speaker 1: After this, no TMO, no DRS, just your call on

1084
00:57:30,947 --> 00:57:34,347
Speaker 1: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Weekend Sport with Jason

1085
00:57:34,427 --> 00:57:38,107
Speaker 1: Paine and GJ. Gardner Holmes, New Zealand's most trusted home

1086
00:57:38,147 --> 00:57:39,987
Speaker 1: builder News talks'd be one.

1087
00:57:40,067 --> 00:57:42,667
Speaker 2: Twenty five Round four of SUPERABI Pacific's all done. The

1088
00:57:42,707 --> 00:57:44,987
Speaker 2: Brumby is still on top despite a thirty four to

1089
00:57:45,027 --> 00:57:47,147
Speaker 2: thirty one loss at home in Canberra to the Reds.

1090
00:57:47,147 --> 00:57:49,707
Speaker 2: The Highlander is digging deep to beat the Western four

1091
00:57:49,867 --> 00:57:52,467
Speaker 2: thirty nine thirty one in Dunedin and the Blues into

1092
00:57:52,467 --> 00:57:55,587
Speaker 2: the top four a twenty nine to thirteen win over

1093
00:57:55,587 --> 00:57:57,667
Speaker 2: the Crusaders at Eden Park last night.

1094
00:57:58,027 --> 00:58:01,147
Speaker 17: There's the siren Funaki kicks it into touch and the

1095
00:58:01,147 --> 00:58:04,027
Speaker 17: Blues saint don't forget about us. We are back on

1096
00:58:04,147 --> 00:58:07,507
Speaker 17: track in Super Rugby twenty twenty seven with a statement

1097
00:58:07,587 --> 00:58:11,627
Speaker 17: win over the defending champions twenty ninth thirteen and Eden.

1098
00:58:11,547 --> 00:58:15,067
Speaker 2: Park Blues assistant coach Paul Tittel is whetheres that looked

1099
00:58:15,267 --> 00:58:18,627
Speaker 2: like one of the Blues' most complete performances of the season. No, no,

1100
00:58:18,667 --> 00:58:20,867
Speaker 2: it's only early, Paul, But how pleased were you and

1101
00:58:20,907 --> 00:58:22,707
Speaker 2: the rest of the coaching staff with last night?

1102
00:58:23,347 --> 00:58:25,507
Speaker 18: Yeah, you know, just to get the win against the

1103
00:58:25,827 --> 00:58:29,787
Speaker 18: Crusader's team has been not easy to come by for

1104
00:58:29,827 --> 00:58:33,067
Speaker 18: the Blues in the last few years. Obviously, Dults played

1105
00:58:33,067 --> 00:58:36,227
Speaker 18: ae hundredth game last weekend and that was his third win,

1106
00:58:36,427 --> 00:58:41,307
Speaker 18: So you know, we've struggled to beat them, but I

1107
00:58:41,347 --> 00:58:43,547
Speaker 18: feel that, you know, throughout the season we've been building

1108
00:58:43,627 --> 00:58:47,467
Speaker 18: quite nicely and potentially hadn't been getting the results that

1109
00:58:47,827 --> 00:58:51,667
Speaker 18: that came our way, but you know, we've been trusting

1110
00:58:51,707 --> 00:58:56,587
Speaker 18: the process and enjoying each other's company and building together

1111
00:58:56,667 --> 00:58:59,907
Speaker 18: something nice and special. And you know, I think hopefully

1112
00:58:59,907 --> 00:59:02,147
Speaker 18: there was a start of something from that result last night.

1113
00:59:02,707 --> 00:59:05,387
Speaker 2: After conceding late to lose to the Brumbies last week,

1114
00:59:05,427 --> 00:59:07,867
Speaker 2: did you sense a the playing group that a response

1115
00:59:07,987 --> 00:59:10,707
Speaker 2: was coming from that?

1116
00:59:10,707 --> 00:59:12,947
Speaker 18: That's what it felt like at training all week. You know,

1117
00:59:13,027 --> 00:59:16,467
Speaker 18: we're just slowly building and putting those blocks in place,

1118
00:59:16,507 --> 00:59:20,867
Speaker 18: and even last night we went perfect by any means,

1119
00:59:20,987 --> 00:59:24,227
Speaker 18: but I feel we're building, which has been pleasing.

1120
00:59:24,507 --> 00:59:27,347
Speaker 2: The Crusaders didn't score a single point in the second half.

1121
00:59:27,707 --> 00:59:30,987
Speaker 2: How satisfied were you with the defense, of attitude and

1122
00:59:31,027 --> 00:59:32,547
Speaker 2: the organization after halftime.

1123
00:59:35,067 --> 00:59:37,227
Speaker 18: Yeah, it's important, you know. I mean, you know, the

1124
00:59:37,307 --> 00:59:40,547
Speaker 18: Cannabury teams, Crusader teams that you play, you know, they

1125
00:59:40,587 --> 00:59:44,267
Speaker 18: normally score just before halftime and just after halftime. They

1126
00:59:44,267 --> 00:59:47,067
Speaker 18: put a lot of pressure on you by doing so.

1127
00:59:47,067 --> 00:59:50,507
Speaker 18: So for us to start well in that second half

1128
00:59:50,547 --> 00:59:53,347
Speaker 18: and take control of the game was pleasing. A massive

1129
00:59:54,667 --> 00:59:59,187
Speaker 18: cutos to Craig McGrath and the defense group that are

1130
00:59:59,267 --> 01:00:01,987
Speaker 18: leading the space. And you know, I thought we saw

1131
01:00:02,027 --> 01:00:05,067
Speaker 18: some real growth in our defense last night. And then

1132
01:00:05,067 --> 01:00:06,907
Speaker 18: we're a willingness to work hard for each other.

1133
01:00:07,267 --> 01:00:09,667
Speaker 2: Interesting you say that about the times the Crusaders are

1134
01:00:09,707 --> 01:00:12,667
Speaker 2: most dangerous. They did score a couple of tries before

1135
01:00:12,707 --> 01:00:15,987
Speaker 2: halftime when Caleb Clark was in the bin from nineteen

1136
01:00:16,067 --> 01:00:20,427
Speaker 2: three to nineteen thirteen. Any worry lines at that point.

1137
01:00:21,867 --> 01:00:24,787
Speaker 18: Yeah, potentially, just a couple of week moments that we had,

1138
01:00:24,827 --> 01:00:28,867
Speaker 18: you know, a lost line out which was a miscall,

1139
01:00:29,027 --> 01:00:31,627
Speaker 18: you know, I mean, just those those little things that

1140
01:00:31,707 --> 01:00:35,227
Speaker 18: become big things and we just give them opportunity and

1141
01:00:35,347 --> 01:00:37,707
Speaker 18: we know how good they are. If you give these

1142
01:00:37,747 --> 01:00:41,107
Speaker 18: themes a sniff or an opportunity, you know, they're more

1143
01:00:41,147 --> 01:00:46,387
Speaker 18: than capable of scoring points. And they look pretty easy

1144
01:00:46,427 --> 01:00:49,187
Speaker 18: when they did that. So yep, no, it's something that

1145
01:00:49,227 --> 01:00:51,667
Speaker 18: we need to work on. And obviously playing with fifteen

1146
01:00:51,707 --> 01:00:52,827
Speaker 18: men all help us.

1147
01:00:53,227 --> 01:00:56,067
Speaker 2: Bona. Barrett was a late inclusion into the starting fifteen

1148
01:00:56,107 --> 01:00:58,707
Speaker 2: here was event initially slated to come off the bench.

1149
01:00:59,707 --> 01:01:05,467
Speaker 2: How late a call was that? And a Stephen petifecta, Okay.

1150
01:01:04,947 --> 01:01:09,307
Speaker 18: Yes, Stee, he's sustaining another injuries, which is which is

1151
01:01:09,307 --> 01:01:11,627
Speaker 18: disappointing for him. You know, he's but hard to get

1152
01:01:11,667 --> 01:01:14,907
Speaker 18: back and you know, hopefully won't be on the sideline

1153
01:01:14,947 --> 01:01:17,907
Speaker 18: too long. But I don't know what the prognosis is

1154
01:01:18,027 --> 01:01:20,987
Speaker 18: on that, but you know he's he's been he's been

1155
01:01:21,027 --> 01:01:22,667
Speaker 18: good for us, Stevie, and we're going to need him

1156
01:01:22,667 --> 01:01:25,467
Speaker 18: throughout the year, so we you know, we'll get him

1157
01:01:25,467 --> 01:01:26,187
Speaker 18: back at some stage.

1158
01:01:26,227 --> 01:01:28,267
Speaker 2: Scene not a bad guy to have coming in. It

1159
01:01:28,347 --> 01:01:29,827
Speaker 2: looked like he hadn't been away boating.

1160
01:01:29,867 --> 01:01:30,227
Speaker 5: Barrett.

1161
01:01:31,547 --> 01:01:34,787
Speaker 18: Yeah, I actually spoke to him after the game and

1162
01:01:34,907 --> 01:01:36,987
Speaker 18: he his legs were a bit heavy and his legs

1163
01:01:37,027 --> 01:01:38,907
Speaker 18: are burning theres they always are, you know, it doesn't

1164
01:01:38,907 --> 01:01:42,267
Speaker 18: actually matter how much work you've done in the preseason.

1165
01:01:42,987 --> 01:01:45,987
Speaker 18: You know, that first game always hurts, So it was

1166
01:01:46,027 --> 01:01:47,507
Speaker 18: good to have him back out there, and you know,

1167
01:01:47,587 --> 01:01:49,987
Speaker 18: he controlled the game well and you know I'll be happy,

1168
01:01:50,027 --> 01:01:51,347
Speaker 18: He'll be happy without any minutes.

1169
01:01:51,547 --> 01:01:53,427
Speaker 2: At the other end of the experienced scar, we're seeing

1170
01:01:53,467 --> 01:01:56,587
Speaker 2: some younger Blues players really grow into their time in

1171
01:01:56,667 --> 01:01:59,427
Speaker 2: the Jersey, the likes of Tory and Barnes, Shay Clark,

1172
01:01:59,467 --> 01:02:02,267
Speaker 2: Cody Vai. How encouraged are you by the depth that

1173
01:02:02,387 --> 01:02:03,467
Speaker 2: you're building in the Blues.

1174
01:02:05,587 --> 01:02:07,907
Speaker 18: It's exciting and you know, I do bet most of you.

1175
01:02:08,027 --> 01:02:10,787
Speaker 18: We look at our development team to team tie. They've

1176
01:02:10,827 --> 01:02:13,747
Speaker 18: been going really well and performing and it's putting pressure

1177
01:02:13,787 --> 01:02:16,947
Speaker 18: on the coaches to get the selection right.

1178
01:02:17,187 --> 01:02:19,347
Speaker 3: So it's a good headache to have.

1179
01:02:19,507 --> 01:02:21,787
Speaker 18: Obviously, we've we've been getting a few things and there's

1180
01:02:21,827 --> 01:02:25,227
Speaker 18: other guys getting opportunities. You know, you named Torrian Barnes

1181
01:02:25,307 --> 01:02:29,027
Speaker 18: and Cody Vaile. I thought was outstanding last night. You know,

1182
01:02:29,107 --> 01:02:31,907
Speaker 18: I put Josh Berry in that bracket too, Like he's

1183
01:02:32,027 --> 01:02:35,387
Speaker 18: really leading the charge for our foods this year. His

1184
01:02:35,507 --> 01:02:38,427
Speaker 18: stats are high and his work rates massive, and we're

1185
01:02:38,467 --> 01:02:41,587
Speaker 18: really enjoying this growth from this, the younger generation that

1186
01:02:41,627 --> 01:02:42,547
Speaker 18: are coming through the Blues.

1187
01:02:42,987 --> 01:02:45,387
Speaker 2: I heard Caleb Clark afterwards talk about Dot and Papale

1188
01:02:45,467 --> 01:02:48,347
Speaker 2: He's one hundredth, which you referenced before, and while he

1189
01:02:48,427 --> 01:02:50,267
Speaker 2: brought it up a week ago, it was kind of celebrated.

1190
01:02:50,307 --> 01:02:53,027
Speaker 2: I guess on home stow there last night. How how

1191
01:02:53,107 --> 01:02:56,427
Speaker 2: much do you mark milestones like that? Internally?

1192
01:02:58,547 --> 01:03:00,067
Speaker 18: Yeah, it's a big thing at the Blues. You know,

1193
01:03:00,267 --> 01:03:03,627
Speaker 18: to play one hundred games of Super rugby is as

1194
01:03:03,667 --> 01:03:08,187
Speaker 18: a massive achievement. Doubts as a speak man, and you

1195
01:03:08,227 --> 01:03:10,307
Speaker 18: know we surely missed when he when he leaves after

1196
01:03:10,347 --> 01:03:13,067
Speaker 18: this year, but I know that he's you know he's

1197
01:03:13,107 --> 01:03:16,107
Speaker 18: really he's really leading away and rulling the troops a

1198
01:03:16,187 --> 01:03:17,987
Speaker 18: share to make sure he goes out with a bang,

1199
01:03:18,107 --> 01:03:22,187
Speaker 18: and you know where he's a he's a highly respected

1200
01:03:22,227 --> 01:03:23,947
Speaker 18: man in our group on and off the field. He's

1201
01:03:23,987 --> 01:03:26,787
Speaker 18: a great leader and you know we love him to bits.

1202
01:03:26,867 --> 01:03:30,187
Speaker 18: And you know, whatever has happened, and you know at

1203
01:03:30,227 --> 01:03:34,027
Speaker 18: the higher at the higher teams for the last couple

1204
01:03:34,067 --> 01:03:35,867
Speaker 18: of years, it's it's bloody sad to see him go.

1205
01:03:36,467 --> 01:03:39,507
Speaker 2: Indeed, one of Pacific a up next for you someday

1206
01:03:39,507 --> 01:03:41,587
Speaker 2: afternoons a week today back at Eton Park. They've had

1207
01:03:41,587 --> 01:03:43,627
Speaker 2: a challenging season, haven't they. Will there be a chance

1208
01:03:44,187 --> 01:03:46,027
Speaker 2: to rest some guys, maybe give some other guys a

1209
01:03:46,067 --> 01:03:46,547
Speaker 2: few minutes.

1210
01:03:48,427 --> 01:03:51,227
Speaker 18: I think the key will be our willingness to you know,

1211
01:03:51,427 --> 01:03:54,067
Speaker 18: just get out there and put the Blues d NA

1212
01:03:54,227 --> 01:03:57,187
Speaker 18: L and on the park. You know, I'm sure there

1213
01:03:57,187 --> 01:03:59,547
Speaker 18: will be a couple of changes, but you know, we

1214
01:03:59,707 --> 01:04:02,587
Speaker 18: know what it's like and with my honor, you know,

1215
01:04:02,747 --> 01:04:06,187
Speaker 18: they they tipped us up last year, so we're under

1216
01:04:06,347 --> 01:04:08,347
Speaker 18: our loss. How tough the game will be and we're

1217
01:04:08,347 --> 01:04:09,707
Speaker 18: going to have to be on our game, and we

1218
01:04:09,827 --> 01:04:12,187
Speaker 18: want to keep growing what we've done the last couple

1219
01:04:12,227 --> 01:04:13,747
Speaker 18: of weeks. We know we don't want to be going

1220
01:04:14,227 --> 01:04:16,227
Speaker 18: two steps forward to one back, so we need to

1221
01:04:16,347 --> 01:04:20,427
Speaker 18: keep growing what we're doing and become better every week.

1222
01:04:20,587 --> 01:04:23,107
Speaker 18: So you know, I mean, I'm sure there'll be a

1223
01:04:23,147 --> 01:04:25,707
Speaker 18: couple but hopefully, you know, we just got to keep going,

1224
01:04:25,747 --> 01:04:26,067
Speaker 18: all right.

1225
01:04:26,147 --> 01:04:28,067
Speaker 2: Hey, thanks Paul, appreciate you taking the time to chat

1226
01:04:28,107 --> 01:04:30,987
Speaker 2: to us. Paul Tentel, assistant coach of the Blues after

1227
01:04:31,027 --> 01:04:33,667
Speaker 2: their win at Eden Park last night over the Crusaderes

1228
01:04:33,667 --> 01:04:37,787
Speaker 2: twenty nine points to thirteen. So after four completed rounds,

1229
01:04:37,827 --> 01:04:40,827
Speaker 2: the Brumbies are top fifteen points, then the Chiefs on thirteen,

1230
01:04:40,867 --> 01:04:43,307
Speaker 2: the Hurricanes eleven, the Blues and the war Tars both

1231
01:04:43,787 --> 01:04:44,987
Speaker 2: on ten points.

1232
01:04:45,627 --> 01:04:46,027
Speaker 5: What are we?

1233
01:04:46,147 --> 01:04:49,147
Speaker 2: One thirty three. New Zealand have won five of six

1234
01:04:49,347 --> 01:04:53,547
Speaker 2: titles at the Golden Shares World Sharing and Wall Handling

1235
01:04:53,667 --> 01:04:59,067
Speaker 2: Championships in Masterton. Roland Smith and Joel Hannaday among the stars. Now,

1236
01:04:59,147 --> 01:05:03,027
Speaker 2: speaking of stars, what a de light to welcome into

1237
01:05:03,067 --> 01:05:05,667
Speaker 2: the studio on his way home after this iconic event.

1238
01:05:06,027 --> 01:05:08,707
Speaker 2: Host the country, Jamie McKay. I feel like I should

1239
01:05:08,707 --> 01:05:11,787
Speaker 2: have rolled the red carpet out, Jamie. Lovely to see you.

1240
01:05:12,347 --> 01:05:15,427
Speaker 19: Well lovely to see you Piney. You can't beat Wellington

1241
01:05:15,467 --> 01:05:18,587
Speaker 19: on a good day, and this is not a good day.

1242
01:05:18,627 --> 01:05:20,907
Speaker 19: It was beautifully fine and sunny when I left the

1243
01:05:20,947 --> 01:05:21,547
Speaker 19: Wira Rapper.

1244
01:05:21,867 --> 01:05:24,227
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe a good day will be along shortly. We

1245
01:05:24,307 --> 01:05:26,747
Speaker 2: can never count on it. Here in the Capitol. Golden

1246
01:05:26,787 --> 01:05:30,467
Speaker 2: Shares twenty twenty six is all done. Tell us about

1247
01:05:30,507 --> 01:05:32,827
Speaker 2: some of the highlights and the success for the Kiwi sharers.

1248
01:05:32,907 --> 01:05:34,787
Speaker 19: Yeah, look, it was a great weekend for the Kiwi

1249
01:05:34,867 --> 01:05:38,627
Speaker 19: sharers and wool handlers. Of course, this year coincided with

1250
01:05:38,747 --> 01:05:41,987
Speaker 19: the World Sharing and wall Handling championships as well, and

1251
01:05:42,187 --> 01:05:45,547
Speaker 19: you honestly couldn't have scripted a better finish. Roland Smith's

1252
01:05:45,747 --> 01:05:47,827
Speaker 19: a bit of a friend of the country. The radio

1253
01:05:47,907 --> 01:05:49,907
Speaker 19: show that I run doesn't rate as well as yours,

1254
01:05:49,987 --> 01:05:53,587
Speaker 19: piney I, but I try him my best and it

1255
01:05:53,707 --> 01:05:56,067
Speaker 19: was so good. This is a guy who's effectively come

1256
01:05:56,147 --> 01:05:59,747
Speaker 19: out of retirement. Look, he's won eight Golden Shares titles,

1257
01:05:59,787 --> 01:06:03,147
Speaker 19: he's won one previous world title. These days, he likes

1258
01:06:03,227 --> 01:06:05,987
Speaker 19: diggers and tractors, he's got a big contracting business, he's

1259
01:06:06,067 --> 01:06:09,027
Speaker 19: running a farm, he was running a sharing gang, and

1260
01:06:09,147 --> 01:06:11,387
Speaker 19: he's just he barely gets any time to get on

1261
01:06:11,467 --> 01:06:14,907
Speaker 19: the hand piece himself. He's just a magnificent athlete. And

1262
01:06:15,067 --> 01:06:17,947
Speaker 19: he was able to come back and win that world

1263
01:06:18,227 --> 01:06:21,587
Speaker 19: title last night, and that's what he was after. He

1264
01:06:21,707 --> 01:06:24,107
Speaker 19: had to go at the double obviously the Golden Shares

1265
01:06:24,187 --> 01:06:26,507
Speaker 19: Open title as well, but that I think he just

1266
01:06:26,627 --> 01:06:28,347
Speaker 19: ran out of juice in the end because he's not

1267
01:06:28,507 --> 01:06:33,027
Speaker 19: probably fit for competitive sharing, but he's just so good.

1268
01:06:33,147 --> 01:06:35,347
Speaker 19: His quality is so good. He was able to pip

1269
01:06:35,907 --> 01:06:38,907
Speaker 19: Toer Henderson. So it was fantastic. You know, those two

1270
01:06:38,987 --> 01:06:43,147
Speaker 19: guys won the world title on the Friday Tower retained

1271
01:06:43,227 --> 01:06:46,707
Speaker 19: the Golden Shares Open as we said, and Roland won

1272
01:06:46,787 --> 01:06:50,027
Speaker 19: the World Championships. Joel Nra cleaning up in the wall

1273
01:06:50,067 --> 01:06:52,347
Speaker 19: handling great weekend for the kiwis.

1274
01:06:52,067 --> 01:06:54,947
Speaker 2: Absolutely and it's still a massive event, isn't it. Masterden

1275
01:06:55,067 --> 01:06:58,027
Speaker 2: just comes alive. I remember my very first radio job,

1276
01:06:58,147 --> 01:07:01,747
Speaker 2: was it Radio whited Upper in nineteen ninety two into

1277
01:07:01,827 --> 01:07:07,027
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety three, and the Golden Shears was enormous. Then say, now.

1278
01:07:07,227 --> 01:07:10,387
Speaker 19: Did you have like a hot jock music voice back

1279
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Speaker 19: in those days? Pony Well, Hi, I'm Jason pine Well.

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Speaker 2: I must say I do remember that I had to

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Speaker 2: MC the Golden Shears karaoke competition that year. Was there

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01:07:22,107 --> 01:07:25,187
Speaker 2: a karaoke competition last night or across the weekend?

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01:07:25,267 --> 01:07:28,267
Speaker 19: No, there wasn't a karaoke competition, but interestingly we could

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Speaker 19: have done with one because Rowena Duncan you know Rowena,

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Speaker 19: my former offsider, was one of the EMC's. They've got

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01:07:33,627 --> 01:07:36,147
Speaker 19: very good mcs and commentators there, but they had a

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Speaker 19: bit of a balls up if I can use those words.

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Speaker 19: On your show, Piney with the Sheep, someone mixed them

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Speaker 19: up and we had like a forty minute wait before

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Speaker 19: we could get onto the World Machine Sharing title that

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Speaker 19: Roland Smith eventually won. So poor old Rowena and the

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01:07:52,307 --> 01:07:55,667
Speaker 19: other EMCs were padding for time. They were wandering around

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Speaker 19: the audience talking to all and Sundry Chippy was there

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Speaker 19: with Karen MacNulty. Kieren obviously has a lot of big

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Speaker 19: connection with the Golden Shares, a former bookie, so he's

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Speaker 19: right on the money there. So we could have done

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Speaker 19: with the karaoke competition to kill a bit of time.

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Speaker 19: And because in the good old days they had miss

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Speaker 19: Golden Shares, that's no longer politically correct, no, but I

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Speaker 19: sort of.

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Speaker 2: Feel as though if you were organizing the Golden Shares

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Speaker 2: logistically you make sure the sheep are right, you know.

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01:08:24,067 --> 01:08:26,027
Speaker 2: Was it just an unfortunate mix up?

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Speaker 19: Well, someone's head or roll Eventually it was a bit

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01:08:28,947 --> 01:08:31,307
Speaker 19: of an unfortunate mix up. They would call it a

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01:08:31,387 --> 01:08:35,027
Speaker 19: ball's up or a boxing up the sheep and to

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Speaker 19: use farming terms. But see for that World Sharing title,

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01:08:39,827 --> 01:08:42,707
Speaker 19: the one that roll in one. They had three different

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Speaker 19: types of sheep, so they had four pirindale, six crossbred

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Speaker 19: long wall that's a four fleece and then ten second share,

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Speaker 19: a big, big two tooth young sheep. That a second share.

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Speaker 19: So there's three different types of sheep and three different

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Speaker 19: wall types. So yeah, someone left the gate open somewhere

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Speaker 19: and anyhow we got there.

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Speaker 5: In the end.

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Speaker 19: It was a bit of a late finish, but it

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Speaker 19: was a fairy tale finish.

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Speaker 2: Roland.

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Speaker 19: This will be it for him. He was out there

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Speaker 19: to get that world title.

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Speaker 5: He got it.

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Speaker 19: Now Joel Henery now has I think twelve or thirteen

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Speaker 19: open titles in the wall handling at the Golden Shares.

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Speaker 19: Rumor is that he's going to go hunting Sir David

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Speaker 19: Fagan's sixteen open titles in the machine sharing to maybe

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Speaker 19: be the greatest competitor at the Golden Shares.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he will be.

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Speaker 19: All due respect to Joel, because David, Sir David Fagan

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Speaker 19: is an absolute legend. But no, look what wonderful occasion

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Speaker 19: the War Memorial Stadium. It's called there. The heat's well

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Speaker 19: and truly on, and it was on last night, and

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Speaker 19: you know we count down now three years. I think

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Speaker 19: in the World Champs are going to be in Australia.

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Speaker 2: The physical demands of sharing, Jamie, you just give us

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01:09:53,747 --> 01:09:57,947
Speaker 2: an idea of just how tough it is on bodies

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Speaker 2: to do this.

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Speaker 19: Well, I know a weave it about it, pininey, because

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Speaker 19: in a past life I was like a farmer sharer,

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Speaker 19: not I did enough sharing to know it's this is

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Speaker 19: just too hard a job, you know, like I could

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Speaker 19: knock out two hundred a day. These guys will do

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Speaker 19: six hundred a day, or some of the world records

1343
01:10:14,907 --> 01:10:16,987
Speaker 19: are eight hundred a day. That puts it sort of

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Speaker 19: into perspective. But it is that they are super athletes.

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Speaker 19: These guys. They not only share all day the Toller

1346
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Speaker 19: Henderson's and these guys are training in the gym all

1347
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Speaker 19: the time. They're superb athletes. They say that a full

1348
01:10:30,027 --> 01:10:33,667
Speaker 19: day sharing like a world record attempt, is the equivalent

1349
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Speaker 19: of running two Olympic class marathons end on end. So

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Speaker 19: it involves amazing fitness and amazing coordination. I mean that

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Speaker 19: these guys, a lot of them, would have been top

1352
01:10:48,947 --> 01:10:51,787
Speaker 19: sports people had they chosen to go down another field.

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Speaker 19: They're just genetically better than the rest of us.

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Speaker 2: Another great weekend, No doubt you'll cover it off on

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Speaker 2: your supremely popular country show. You talk about ratings. Most

1356
01:11:02,187 --> 01:11:04,147
Speaker 2: of us can only dream of the ratings that you

1357
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Speaker 2: pull and Jamie, so look, I thank you for much

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Speaker 2: for the boost you.

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Speaker 19: Give A week one got a studio with my face

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Speaker 19: plas that over it like yours? Did you get sick

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Speaker 19: of looking at yourself?

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Speaker 3: Tell I do it?

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01:11:14,107 --> 01:11:15,947
Speaker 2: But they need to change that screen, don't they.

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Speaker 19: We've got a big tractor at our studio.

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Speaker 2: I think I'd forfe one of those. Yeah, I'd rather

1366
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Speaker 2: than a screen with my face on it. Jamie, great

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Speaker 2: to see you, mate, Thanks for stopping.

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Speaker 19: And thank you Piney.

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Speaker 2: Great to be here, Jamie McKay. Hear him on the

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Speaker 2: country across the ZIB network weekdays between twelve and one.

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Speaker 2: On Golden Shears twenty twenty six, Well are we twenty

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Speaker 2: one away from two? Let's take a break. James mcconey

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Speaker 2: on the other side.

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Speaker 1: Hard tackles, Harder opinions, Weekend Sport with Jason five and GJ.

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Speaker 2: Talks He Been Weekend Sports seventeen to two. James mcconey

1378
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Speaker 2: is always on a Sunday Hello mate, Hello.

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Speaker 5: Piney, I'm caught in a bit of boat show traffic

1380
01:12:01,827 --> 01:12:05,107
Speaker 5: in Auckland. So I'm on the road to the breakdown

1381
01:12:05,187 --> 01:12:08,067
Speaker 5: on sky tonight. So much talk about in the rugby world.

1382
01:12:08,067 --> 01:12:09,627
Speaker 5: There's a lot going on, piny.

1383
01:12:09,707 --> 01:12:12,107
Speaker 2: A lot going on. What about it? Tilly beating England?

1384
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Speaker 2: How good was that?

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Speaker 5: Magnificent? It was unbelievable the scenes and just the way

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01:12:19,907 --> 01:12:22,507
Speaker 5: it played out. Yes, there was a dodgy French ref.

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Speaker 5: Yes there were two yellow cards to England. But hey,

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Speaker 5: you cannot take it away from Italy. They've been doing

1389
01:12:28,147 --> 01:12:33,187
Speaker 5: such good things under their Argentinian coach Felipe Continpomi side note,

1390
01:12:33,307 --> 01:12:37,187
Speaker 5: very good Mateive Razors and he's been just kicking goals

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Speaker 5: and scoring tries since he's been in charge of the Italians.

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01:12:40,747 --> 01:12:45,427
Speaker 5: And they've actually unearthed a superstar in Tomaso Minicello. I

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01:12:45,467 --> 01:12:47,587
Speaker 5: don't know if he's related to Anthony, but he definitely

1394
01:12:47,627 --> 01:12:49,987
Speaker 5: looks like him. He looks like the count from Sesame Street.

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Speaker 2: See, I'll have to check him out. Did you see

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Speaker 2: the score between Scotland and France. It was fifty forty.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and Idris Gostmate said that's their best performance in

1398
01:13:00,907 --> 01:13:03,787
Speaker 5: a long long time. Even though they conceded forty points,

1399
01:13:03,867 --> 01:13:06,867
Speaker 5: they were pumped. So that's what I happen after we've

1400
01:13:06,867 --> 01:13:08,907
Speaker 5: had a few whiskeys after the game, because he sent

1401
01:13:08,987 --> 01:13:12,827
Speaker 5: me the at probably midnight local time and the game

1402
01:13:12,987 --> 01:13:18,187
Speaker 5: finished at five thirty. So look, I think Scotland are

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01:13:18,267 --> 01:13:20,067
Speaker 5: a real threat in the World Cup. I think as

1404
01:13:20,107 --> 01:13:23,507
Speaker 5: long as they got Finn Russell and they're operating on

1405
01:13:24,627 --> 01:13:27,427
Speaker 5: all sort of twelve cylinders of fifteen cylinders, if you're

1406
01:13:27,507 --> 01:13:31,187
Speaker 5: like I think they can upset anybody.

1407
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Speaker 2: Now Super Rugby, which I know you'll feature on the

1408
01:13:33,947 --> 01:13:37,267
Speaker 2: breakdown tonight as well. I saw Damien McKenzie come back

1409
01:13:37,267 --> 01:13:39,267
Speaker 2: into the Chief side like he'd never been away, and

1410
01:13:39,307 --> 01:13:42,067
Speaker 2: then last night I saw Bowden Barrett come back into

1411
01:13:42,107 --> 01:13:44,027
Speaker 2: the Blue side like he'd never been away. Is this

1412
01:13:44,147 --> 01:13:47,107
Speaker 2: what happens to high quality first five? So it doesn't

1413
01:13:47,147 --> 01:13:49,427
Speaker 2: actually matter how much time you have off, you just

1414
01:13:49,507 --> 01:13:50,907
Speaker 2: come back like you've never been away.

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Speaker 5: Exactly, bring back Grant Fox right. The thing is I

1416
01:13:56,307 --> 01:14:01,507
Speaker 5: reckon that it's that class's permanent argument. Right, they can

1417
01:14:01,627 --> 01:14:04,507
Speaker 5: just slot in anywhere. And even good to see Dmac

1418
01:14:05,107 --> 01:14:09,947
Speaker 5: running around like a blueast fly if you can say that,

1419
01:14:10,547 --> 01:14:13,907
Speaker 5: and just setting something up. And now we felt like

1420
01:14:14,067 --> 01:14:17,747
Speaker 5: old d Mac, you know, old Damien McKenzie. But we've

1421
01:14:17,827 --> 01:14:20,027
Speaker 5: got this embarrassment of riches. But it's all coming to

1422
01:14:20,067 --> 01:14:22,187
Speaker 5: a head because Richie mu Wong is coming back soon

1423
01:14:22,667 --> 01:14:24,667
Speaker 5: and that's a big decision to make. But I like

1424
01:14:24,747 --> 01:14:27,667
Speaker 5: the fact that there's been so much class shown the

1425
01:14:27,787 --> 01:14:33,507
Speaker 5: Hurricanes over in Sydney. Hatrick's galore really properly, Roy Carda,

1426
01:14:34,067 --> 01:14:37,227
Speaker 5: Caleb Clark. I mean this is really good to see

1427
01:14:37,387 --> 01:14:40,147
Speaker 5: because I think, you know, the class of those players

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01:14:40,387 --> 01:14:42,547
Speaker 5: should shine through. They are our best of the best.

1429
01:14:43,707 --> 01:14:45,787
Speaker 2: I think Caleb Tunguetow is going to be in All

1430
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Speaker 2: Black this year. I know it's not a particularly bold claim,

1431
01:14:48,827 --> 01:14:50,107
Speaker 2: but do you agree.

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01:14:50,707 --> 01:14:51,387
Speaker 5: One hundred percent?

1433
01:14:51,467 --> 01:14:51,747
Speaker 3: Agree?

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01:14:52,147 --> 01:14:54,987
Speaker 5: I think like it's almost like who else comes in?

1435
01:14:55,107 --> 01:14:57,787
Speaker 5: But we're really you know, SEMy Reese has gone, Mark

1436
01:14:57,827 --> 01:15:01,067
Speaker 5: Talia left last year. They haven't really filled that void.

1437
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Speaker 5: I think it is it is a spot for Tongueytowl.

1438
01:15:05,907 --> 01:15:09,067
Speaker 5: I just under whether will Dave Anny want to play

1439
01:15:09,347 --> 01:15:13,347
Speaker 5: someone like McKenzie at fullback and move Will Jordan to

1440
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Speaker 5: the wing. I mean, why didn't Will Jordan play last night?

1441
01:15:16,267 --> 01:15:18,947
Speaker 5: I don't understand it. Come on, it's a derby game.

1442
01:15:19,307 --> 01:15:21,827
Speaker 5: You've got to have the best players playing and that,

1443
01:15:22,107 --> 01:15:24,267
Speaker 5: so it would have been lovely to see because he's

1444
01:15:24,307 --> 01:15:28,147
Speaker 5: so influential to that Crusader's team. But yes, to Caleb Tongueytowl,

1445
01:15:29,267 --> 01:15:30,827
Speaker 5: he's on a fast track to the abs.

1446
01:15:31,187 --> 01:15:33,667
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was weird last night, wasn't it. No Will Jordan,

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01:15:33,707 --> 01:15:37,387
Speaker 2: I'd never really I didn't hear an actual explanation. I

1448
01:15:37,427 --> 01:15:40,107
Speaker 2: don't think he's injured. They were just saying I think

1449
01:15:40,307 --> 01:15:42,827
Speaker 2: Rob Penny just they kind of almost sort of danced

1450
01:15:42,827 --> 01:15:44,787
Speaker 2: around it. Do you know why he didn't play?

1451
01:15:46,867 --> 01:15:48,907
Speaker 5: I know they kind of said that he'd been a

1452
01:15:48,947 --> 01:15:51,467
Speaker 5: bit banged up for maybe, but he's not on an

1453
01:15:51,507 --> 01:15:55,907
Speaker 5: injury report, so I figure, like you know, a lot

1454
01:15:55,947 --> 01:15:59,267
Speaker 5: of old rugby players will be out there going well,

1455
01:15:59,307 --> 01:16:02,227
Speaker 5: I got banged up all the time, played any minutes

1456
01:16:02,307 --> 01:16:05,747
Speaker 5: every week, so we live in a different times, piny,

1457
01:16:05,867 --> 01:16:08,227
Speaker 5: But what a shame that they couldn't put out someone

1458
01:16:08,267 --> 01:16:12,747
Speaker 5: who is a genuine global superstar on that stage last night.

1459
01:16:13,307 --> 01:16:15,827
Speaker 2: I've just actually had a text from a media colleague

1460
01:16:15,827 --> 01:16:17,427
Speaker 2: of ours. I'm not going to name him, but you

1461
01:16:17,587 --> 01:16:20,907
Speaker 2: know who it is, who tells me that Will Jordan

1462
01:16:20,987 --> 01:16:24,267
Speaker 2: had his brother's wedding this weekend, So maybe that was

1463
01:16:24,307 --> 01:16:26,307
Speaker 2: the red and I think you have to choose your

1464
01:16:26,307 --> 01:16:29,347
Speaker 2: brother's wedding over a round robin game of Super Rugby.

1465
01:16:29,427 --> 01:16:29,627
Speaker 15: Do do?

1466
01:16:29,707 --> 01:16:34,387
Speaker 2: It is catastrophic scheduling by Will Jordan's brother, But I

1467
01:16:34,507 --> 01:16:35,507
Speaker 2: get that, I get it.

1468
01:16:36,427 --> 01:16:38,587
Speaker 5: Oh, it's totally fine. You've got to go to your

1469
01:16:38,627 --> 01:16:41,227
Speaker 5: brother's wedding. I'd say Will Jordan can come to my

1470
01:16:41,347 --> 01:16:44,307
Speaker 5: wedding if it ever happens, pony and he can be

1471
01:16:44,507 --> 01:16:47,627
Speaker 5: MC I'm happy, or even best man. But the thing

1472
01:16:47,827 --> 01:16:51,507
Speaker 5: is that's totally fine. Family first, that that's the era

1473
01:16:51,667 --> 01:16:53,267
Speaker 5: we live, and I'm glad that we do. I mean,

1474
01:16:53,347 --> 01:16:55,867
Speaker 5: I think we had Matt Henry fly home mid World Cup.

1475
01:16:56,587 --> 01:16:58,307
Speaker 5: Fair play one hundred percent should.

1476
01:16:58,067 --> 01:17:00,867
Speaker 2: Happen, absolutely right. Family first, Well, if you could shared

1477
01:17:00,907 --> 01:17:03,427
Speaker 2: your wedding for the day the Crusaders play the Hurricanes,

1478
01:17:03,467 --> 01:17:05,427
Speaker 2: that'd be good. If Will Jordan wasn't going to be there,

1479
01:17:05,707 --> 01:17:08,227
Speaker 2: that would be very helpful. Now, before Dave Reny decides

1480
01:17:08,267 --> 01:17:10,387
Speaker 2: on positions in the All Blacks, he has to come

1481
01:17:10,467 --> 01:17:13,667
Speaker 2: up with his assistant coaching team. What are you hearing here?

1482
01:17:14,827 --> 01:17:17,107
Speaker 5: Well, I'm hearing probably what you were hearing, and the

1483
01:17:17,227 --> 01:17:21,067
Speaker 5: names Neil Barnes Andrew Strawbridge, tana Umanga have come up.

1484
01:17:21,187 --> 01:17:24,347
Speaker 5: Mike Blair, the ex Scottish halfback who worked with him

1485
01:17:24,387 --> 01:17:29,147
Speaker 5: at Glasgow's currently working with him at Kobe. Tom Commentary's

1486
01:17:29,147 --> 01:17:31,867
Speaker 5: another name. I don't think it's going to be too

1487
01:17:31,947 --> 01:17:38,067
Speaker 5: far outside those trusted advisors and assistant coaches. The one

1488
01:17:38,187 --> 01:17:41,707
Speaker 5: interesting point I guess about Andrew Strawbridge is he really

1489
01:17:41,867 --> 01:17:44,227
Speaker 5: is a bit like a Tony Brown in the sense

1490
01:17:44,267 --> 01:17:47,307
Speaker 5: that he's an innovator. He went to England and pretty

1491
01:17:47,387 --> 01:17:50,507
Speaker 5: much made them great again. He got them winning and

1492
01:17:50,627 --> 01:17:54,347
Speaker 5: look he left late last year and now look at them.

1493
01:17:54,827 --> 01:17:57,947
Speaker 5: So that's what you put on your CV. Look how

1494
01:17:57,987 --> 01:18:00,467
Speaker 5: they're doing without me. It's like an M and M song.

1495
01:18:01,747 --> 01:18:06,587
Speaker 2: Exactly right. Hey, I've set my alarm tomorrow morning for

1496
01:18:06,747 --> 01:18:10,747
Speaker 2: two twenty two. The game, the T twenty World Cup Final,

1497
01:18:10,827 --> 01:18:14,907
Speaker 2: starts at two thirty two twenty two. Nathan Astall's famous score,

1498
01:18:15,027 --> 01:18:17,467
Speaker 2: of course, will you join me in getting up at

1499
01:18:17,507 --> 01:18:18,307
Speaker 2: two twenty two?

1500
01:18:19,787 --> 01:18:19,947
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1501
01:18:20,147 --> 01:18:23,827
Speaker 5: Two for twenty two with your Veno time, I'll be there, Pony.

1502
01:18:25,307 --> 01:18:25,827
Speaker 7: What a match?

1503
01:18:26,787 --> 01:18:29,867
Speaker 5: I actually think it's it should be compulsory. At some

1504
01:18:30,027 --> 01:18:32,147
Speaker 5: point of the game, you should be watching it. I

1505
01:18:32,187 --> 01:18:33,707
Speaker 5: don't blame you. If you only get up for the

1506
01:18:33,787 --> 01:18:38,027
Speaker 5: last fifteen overs, that's fine, but it must be watched live.

1507
01:18:38,547 --> 01:18:40,267
Speaker 5: I'm going to be up watching it on Sky. I'm

1508
01:18:40,267 --> 01:18:43,187
Speaker 5: going to be hoping that we're bowling first, because if

1509
01:18:43,187 --> 01:18:46,187
Speaker 5: there's any juice in that pitch, we need to use it.

1510
01:18:46,347 --> 01:18:47,907
Speaker 5: And I think it all comes down to it. I

1511
01:18:47,987 --> 01:18:50,947
Speaker 5: hate to say it, but fin Allen's work it. If

1512
01:18:50,947 --> 01:18:54,867
Speaker 5: they get it cheaply, we're in trouble. For Goes Berserk,

1513
01:18:55,347 --> 01:18:55,667
Speaker 5: gome On.

1514
01:18:56,507 --> 01:18:59,507
Speaker 2: It's that inning's the other day. I'm still trying to process.

1515
01:18:59,547 --> 01:19:01,747
Speaker 2: And he went from fifty eight to one hundred and

1516
01:19:01,867 --> 01:19:06,027
Speaker 2: eleven balls. He got forty two runs an eleven balls.

1517
01:19:06,387 --> 01:19:10,187
Speaker 2: Stood there and he got cramp. He was cramping up

1518
01:19:10,467 --> 01:19:11,427
Speaker 2: in the middle of all of that.

1519
01:19:12,427 --> 01:19:14,747
Speaker 5: You know that's a good lesson there, poney, because he

1520
01:19:14,827 --> 01:19:16,467
Speaker 5: got a few singles at the start. And you know,

1521
01:19:16,507 --> 01:19:18,707
Speaker 5: when you're playing T T twenty cricket and you makes

1522
01:19:18,707 --> 01:19:21,227
Speaker 5: you yelling out hurry up, they get on with it.

1523
01:19:22,027 --> 01:19:24,627
Speaker 5: You can say, hey, even if Allen got a few

1524
01:19:24,707 --> 01:19:27,667
Speaker 5: singles in a bloody lead by here and there, like

1525
01:19:28,107 --> 01:19:29,987
Speaker 5: just chill out until the wait till I get the

1526
01:19:30,027 --> 01:19:31,947
Speaker 5: fifty eight and you'll see some fireworks. Mate.

1527
01:19:34,307 --> 01:19:35,787
Speaker 2: He kind of missed around for too long because he

1528
01:19:35,827 --> 01:19:37,947
Speaker 2: got there was fifty of nineteen, didn't he, But you're right,

1529
01:19:37,987 --> 01:19:39,667
Speaker 2: he kind of scratched around. There was another game I

1530
01:19:39,707 --> 01:19:41,987
Speaker 2: can't remember. It was again Swen the first over and

1531
01:19:42,067 --> 01:19:44,547
Speaker 2: here's Alan and ciphered out there. The first over was

1532
01:19:44,587 --> 01:19:48,987
Speaker 2: a maiden, a maiden and T twenty cricket. It's so rare,

1533
01:19:49,067 --> 01:19:50,347
Speaker 2: but it didn't matter. They went on and bought on

1534
01:19:50,387 --> 01:19:51,787
Speaker 2: a few and I think we might have won that game.

1535
01:19:52,387 --> 01:19:54,827
Speaker 5: Yeah, if your coach tells you to swing from ball one,

1536
01:19:55,347 --> 01:20:00,267
Speaker 5: tell him to go jump in the lake because you're

1537
01:20:00,307 --> 01:20:02,147
Speaker 5: going to get your eye in first and then you're

1538
01:20:02,187 --> 01:20:04,387
Speaker 5: going to blaze away and go nuts. So just tell on.

1539
01:20:05,187 --> 01:20:07,787
Speaker 5: It's not quite mainland. These good things take time. But

1540
01:20:08,267 --> 01:20:10,347
Speaker 5: just give me a couple of sights and then I'll

1541
01:20:10,467 --> 01:20:13,147
Speaker 5: do that. I'll go to the game plan of swinging wildly.

1542
01:20:13,627 --> 01:20:15,707
Speaker 2: Do you think the black Caps do what social cricketers

1543
01:20:15,747 --> 01:20:19,067
Speaker 2: do and if somebody's somebody is messing about and scratching

1544
01:20:19,067 --> 01:20:21,067
Speaker 2: about and not getting any runs, they give them the

1545
01:20:21,187 --> 01:20:23,747
Speaker 2: slow handclap. Do you think the black Caps do that.

1546
01:20:24,987 --> 01:20:27,507
Speaker 5: They've got their own version of it. I'm sure it'll be.

1547
01:20:27,627 --> 01:20:29,947
Speaker 5: He's solely leading it, and he feels like he's the

1548
01:20:30,067 --> 01:20:32,587
Speaker 5: guy that would do that kind of thing. But no,

1549
01:20:32,747 --> 01:20:35,907
Speaker 5: I think it's it's awesome that they're there. I just

1550
01:20:36,107 --> 01:20:37,947
Speaker 5: like the balance of our team. I think we've got

1551
01:20:38,427 --> 01:20:42,427
Speaker 5: enough heading to scare teams and to trouble people. Boommeras

1552
01:20:42,507 --> 01:20:45,067
Speaker 5: Yorkers are a big concern for me. But hey, you

1553
01:20:45,147 --> 01:20:48,267
Speaker 5: can only bolt fall over for others. So let's see

1554
01:20:48,307 --> 01:20:48,827
Speaker 5: how he goes.

1555
01:20:49,627 --> 01:20:52,147
Speaker 2: I'll message you at two twenty three to make sure

1556
01:20:52,187 --> 01:20:52,547
Speaker 2: you're up.

1557
01:20:53,507 --> 01:20:55,587
Speaker 5: Thanks, Pine. I look forward to it, mate, FaceTime there

1558
01:20:55,587 --> 01:20:55,987
Speaker 5: if you like.

1559
01:20:56,587 --> 01:20:58,627
Speaker 2: I don't think i'll do that. You don't want to

1560
01:20:58,627 --> 01:21:01,267
Speaker 2: see me at two twenty three, I can assure you

1561
01:21:01,427 --> 01:21:03,747
Speaker 2: of that, James, but I will be in touch. Thanks mate,

1562
01:21:03,787 --> 01:21:06,227
Speaker 2: Always good to chat, James mccony. Big part of our

1563
01:21:06,787 --> 01:21:08,627
Speaker 2: eight away from two News Talks NB.

1564
01:21:09,707 --> 01:21:14,027
Speaker 1: Analyzing the plays and getting the inside Weekend Sport with

1565
01:21:14,347 --> 01:21:16,307
Speaker 1: Jason Vie News Talks MB.

1566
01:21:17,027 --> 01:21:19,507
Speaker 2: Five to two from Peter on text Hi Jason. Massa

1567
01:21:19,627 --> 01:21:22,547
Speaker 2: University did the numbers on how much energy a sharer

1568
01:21:22,627 --> 01:21:25,267
Speaker 2: puts out. They found that once they were doing more

1569
01:21:25,307 --> 01:21:28,307
Speaker 2: than two hundred in a day, it was equivalent to

1570
01:21:28,387 --> 01:21:31,547
Speaker 2: running two marathons in a day. The big thing is

1571
01:21:31,907 --> 01:21:34,867
Speaker 2: that they do that on Monday, then again on Tuesday,

1572
01:21:35,307 --> 01:21:37,707
Speaker 2: then Wednesday, five days a week and when there's been

1573
01:21:37,747 --> 01:21:41,147
Speaker 2: a wet spell, sometimes seven days a week for a

1574
01:21:41,267 --> 01:21:44,587
Speaker 2: month to catch up. It makes getting up at two

1575
01:21:44,627 --> 01:21:48,427
Speaker 2: twenty two in the morning a bit of a breeze. Thanks, Peter,

1576
01:21:48,507 --> 01:21:51,507
Speaker 2: you're dead right. I feel a bit inadequate after hearing

1577
01:21:51,587 --> 01:21:55,987
Speaker 2: those numbers. Incredible stuff after two o'clock a bumper edition

1578
01:21:56,347 --> 01:21:58,507
Speaker 2: of In Case You Missed It. There's been so much

1579
01:21:58,547 --> 01:22:02,107
Speaker 2: sport on and we don't have any possible way of

1580
01:22:02,227 --> 01:22:04,387
Speaker 2: covering it all for you in depth on weekend sport

1581
01:22:04,387 --> 01:22:05,827
Speaker 2: where we do our best though, So when Case You

1582
01:22:05,867 --> 01:22:07,827
Speaker 2: missed It our two to catch you up on a

1583
01:22:07,867 --> 01:22:09,747
Speaker 2: bunch of stuff that's happened in the last twenty four

1584
01:22:09,787 --> 01:22:12,427
Speaker 2: hours or so. And then we're off to Melbourne where

1585
01:22:12,427 --> 01:22:16,147
Speaker 2: the Australian Formula One Grand Prix is around three hours away.

1586
01:22:16,667 --> 01:22:20,147
Speaker 2: Liam Lawson will start from eighth on the grid after

1587
01:22:20,267 --> 01:22:22,667
Speaker 2: qualifying last night. The big story of course, Max for

1588
01:22:22,787 --> 01:22:27,227
Speaker 2: Stapping crashing early in qualifying, so he'll start from right

1589
01:22:27,347 --> 01:22:30,827
Speaker 2: at the back of the grid. The Mercedes won two

1590
01:22:31,107 --> 01:22:33,987
Speaker 2: at the front, so what are prospects like for the race.

1591
01:22:34,187 --> 01:22:38,787
Speaker 2: Australian Formula One Grand Prix broadcaster James Baldwin is going

1592
01:22:38,867 --> 01:22:41,227
Speaker 2: to join us. We're into the Auckland FC camp. They

1593
01:22:41,347 --> 01:22:44,067
Speaker 2: take on Perth Glory this afternoon. That game at three o'clock.

1594
01:22:44,107 --> 01:22:46,867
Speaker 2: Go Media Logan Rogerson is in for a chat and

1595
01:22:46,947 --> 01:22:50,427
Speaker 2: we're off to India. Mike Lane from the Alternative Commentary Collective.

1596
01:22:51,707 --> 01:22:55,507
Speaker 1: The only place for the big names, the big issues,

1597
01:22:55,867 --> 01:23:00,667
Speaker 1: the big controversies and the big conversations. It's all on

1598
01:23:00,867 --> 01:23:04,707
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Vine on your home of Sport

1599
01:23:05,027 --> 01:23:05,907
Speaker 1: News Talks.

1600
01:23:05,707 --> 01:23:09,787
Speaker 2: MB coming up to seven. Welcome back, Welcome in, whatever

1601
01:23:09,827 --> 01:23:11,827
Speaker 2: the case may be. This is Weekend Sport on News Talk.

1602
01:23:11,907 --> 01:23:13,987
Speaker 2: Said b I'm Jason Pine with Mark Kelly running the

1603
01:23:14,067 --> 01:23:18,387
Speaker 2: Cutter today. Richard says Piney regarding sharers, I think you're

1604
01:23:18,387 --> 01:23:21,787
Speaker 2: getting a bit carried away with your two marathon a

1605
01:23:21,947 --> 01:23:24,587
Speaker 2: day claim. I don't think anyone would be able to

1606
01:23:24,707 --> 01:23:28,067
Speaker 2: run two marathons a day every day. Do you seriously?

1607
01:23:28,427 --> 01:23:30,227
Speaker 2: Come on, Piney? I think you may have been getting

1608
01:23:30,267 --> 01:23:33,907
Speaker 2: a bit excited, Richard. I'm only going off the research

1609
01:23:34,027 --> 01:23:36,627
Speaker 2: that Peter sent through and I can only look. I

1610
01:23:36,667 --> 01:23:40,027
Speaker 2: don't want to cast dispersions on Pete's research. It sounded

1611
01:23:40,107 --> 01:23:45,187
Speaker 2: pretty authentic. You're right, I think it was the equivalent,

1612
01:23:45,387 --> 01:23:47,427
Speaker 2: wasn't it of running the two marathons a day. I

1613
01:23:47,467 --> 01:23:49,747
Speaker 2: think you're right. I can't I can't imagine that a

1614
01:23:49,827 --> 01:23:53,947
Speaker 2: human being could run physically run two marathons a day

1615
01:23:54,107 --> 01:23:57,867
Speaker 2: for seven days. That would be asking a lot. But

1616
01:23:58,427 --> 01:24:02,027
Speaker 2: in terms of the equivalent energy produced, I think that

1617
01:24:02,187 --> 01:24:07,187
Speaker 2: was what the comparison was. So look, I I look,

1618
01:24:07,787 --> 01:24:10,107
Speaker 2: I'm going to believe it until I hear, until I

1619
01:24:10,227 --> 01:24:14,347
Speaker 2: hear evidence to the contrary. Appreciate your text, though, Richard.

1620
01:24:14,387 --> 01:24:17,107
Speaker 2: I appreciate all your correspondence. Oh eight hundred and eighty

1621
01:24:17,187 --> 01:24:19,787
Speaker 2: ten eighties our phone number nine two nine to two

1622
01:24:19,947 --> 01:24:23,347
Speaker 2: for your text messages. Now, Brett Randall's not going to

1623
01:24:23,347 --> 01:24:26,667
Speaker 2: be able to get all ten wickets unfortunately, because his

1624
01:24:26,827 --> 01:24:30,947
Speaker 2: teammate Ray Tall has picked up the eighth Northern District's wicket.

1625
01:24:31,227 --> 01:24:33,627
Speaker 2: They are seventy two for eight that after Brett Randall

1626
01:24:33,667 --> 01:24:35,547
Speaker 2: had picked up the first seven. So it's not going

1627
01:24:35,587 --> 01:24:39,027
Speaker 2: to be a ten for for Brett Randall unfortunately, merely

1628
01:24:39,107 --> 01:24:41,747
Speaker 2: Kerr having taken seven wickets for the White Ferns. Again,

1629
01:24:41,867 --> 01:24:45,867
Speaker 2: Zimbabwe has opened the batting and alongside is He Gaze,

1630
01:24:46,427 --> 01:24:49,227
Speaker 2: they have negotiated their way through to thirty two without loss.

1631
01:24:49,267 --> 01:24:51,467
Speaker 2: On the sixth over chasing one hundred and three to one,

1632
01:24:51,507 --> 01:24:55,347
Speaker 2: the second of three ODI's down in Dunedin. We're off

1633
01:24:55,427 --> 01:24:58,307
Speaker 2: to Melbourne very shortly. We're only three hours or so

1634
01:24:58,467 --> 01:25:02,387
Speaker 2: away from the Formula one Grand Prix season opener at

1635
01:25:02,627 --> 01:25:06,627
Speaker 2: Melbourne's Albert Park Circuit. Going to get a a low

1636
01:25:06,707 --> 01:25:09,947
Speaker 2: down on qualifying yesterday in prospects for the race today

1637
01:25:09,987 --> 01:25:13,147
Speaker 2: with the voice of Formula One in Australia, James Baldwin.

1638
01:25:13,587 --> 01:25:15,627
Speaker 2: We're also going to get inside the Auckland FC camp

1639
01:25:15,747 --> 01:25:17,867
Speaker 2: Logan Rogerson on the show ahead of their game against

1640
01:25:17,907 --> 01:25:20,707
Speaker 2: Perth Glory this afternoon. And we'll get to India again

1641
01:25:20,867 --> 01:25:23,507
Speaker 2: as well, where Mike Lane, the head of the Alternative

1642
01:25:23,547 --> 01:25:26,827
Speaker 2: Commentary Collective, has made a mad dash to get there

1643
01:25:26,907 --> 01:25:29,707
Speaker 2: in time for the T twenty Cricket World Cup Final.

1644
01:25:29,747 --> 01:25:32,307
Speaker 2: I understand he only arrived in about last hour or so.

1645
01:25:32,707 --> 01:25:34,747
Speaker 2: Goodness only knows what state he's in as far as

1646
01:25:35,147 --> 01:25:37,107
Speaker 2: jet lag and those sorts of things are concerned. But

1647
01:25:37,587 --> 01:25:39,387
Speaker 2: we'll get them on the air before three o'clock to

1648
01:25:40,147 --> 01:25:42,267
Speaker 2: get a bit of a gauge on how things are

1649
01:25:42,467 --> 01:25:45,627
Speaker 2: over in a metabat ahead of this T twenty Cricket

1650
01:25:45,667 --> 01:25:49,547
Speaker 2: World Cup Final which starts in just over twelve hours

1651
01:25:50,067 --> 01:25:52,867
Speaker 2: from now. But before we do any of those things,

1652
01:25:52,947 --> 01:25:55,587
Speaker 2: as we always do at around about this time on

1653
01:25:55,747 --> 01:25:59,227
Speaker 2: weekend sport, it's time to catch you up on some

1654
01:25:59,387 --> 01:26:01,027
Speaker 2: of the things you might have missed. And it has

1655
01:26:01,147 --> 01:26:03,947
Speaker 2: been as big as sporting weekend as I can remember

1656
01:26:04,027 --> 01:26:06,787
Speaker 2: in recent times. So much to catch you up on,

1657
01:26:06,947 --> 01:26:09,507
Speaker 2: so let's get into it. We start in the Six Nations,

1658
01:26:09,587 --> 01:26:14,027
Speaker 2: where Italy have created rugby history beating England for the

1659
01:26:14,107 --> 01:26:14,867
Speaker 2: first time ever.

1660
01:26:15,147 --> 01:26:19,947
Speaker 20: Thimes of Italia have slim flights.

1661
01:26:19,627 --> 01:26:22,467
Speaker 17: Fail at last, sad in suplets.

1662
01:26:22,787 --> 01:26:26,787
Speaker 2: I've cussed the rugby universe incredible, the Italians winning twenty

1663
01:26:26,907 --> 01:26:31,107
Speaker 2: three eighteen in Rome. Meantime, French hopes of the Six

1664
01:26:31,267 --> 01:26:36,667
Speaker 2: Nations Grand slammer gone and Scotland at the sets on France.

1665
01:26:37,507 --> 01:26:40,627
Speaker 14: It has been a Six Nations in concert for the

1666
01:26:40,707 --> 01:26:46,427
Speaker 14: ages in Scotland have been France by fifty points to forty.

1667
01:26:46,747 --> 01:26:49,667
Speaker 2: So what that means is Scotland, France and Ireland all

1668
01:26:49,907 --> 01:26:51,987
Speaker 2: have the chance to win the six Nations in the

1669
01:26:52,027 --> 01:26:55,067
Speaker 2: final round next weekend. Close to to home Round four

1670
01:26:55,147 --> 01:26:58,147
Speaker 2: of Super Rugby Pacificas in the books, the Highlanders running

1671
01:26:58,187 --> 01:27:01,507
Speaker 2: out thirty nine thirty one winners over the Western Force

1672
01:27:01,667 --> 01:27:04,667
Speaker 2: in Dunedin. Gonna our little cap away this time done

1673
01:27:04,707 --> 01:27:09,547
Speaker 2: to Reggie flaring across. There's tag out down, It's.

1674
01:27:09,267 --> 01:27:10,387
Speaker 3: Hanging down to try.

1675
01:27:11,187 --> 01:27:11,707
Speaker 5: Take a town.

1676
01:27:11,787 --> 01:27:15,707
Speaker 2: Gets an in the Chris Coloring Machine. The Blues shaking

1677
01:27:15,827 --> 01:27:18,947
Speaker 2: off a run of nine home losses from ten attempts

1678
01:27:18,987 --> 01:27:22,107
Speaker 2: against the Crusaders with a twenty nine to thirteen victory

1679
01:27:22,427 --> 01:27:25,787
Speaker 2: at Eden Park. I'm Barrett for vi left wing corner.

1680
01:27:26,387 --> 01:27:30,987
Speaker 17: It's three three for the Caleb Clark hat trick against

1681
01:27:31,027 --> 01:27:31,947
Speaker 17: the Crusaders.

1682
01:27:32,187 --> 01:27:35,707
Speaker 2: And the amazing game played out at Canberra, the Reds

1683
01:27:35,787 --> 01:27:39,427
Speaker 2: coming back from thirty one twenty down with a minute

1684
01:27:39,507 --> 01:27:43,147
Speaker 2: to go to beat the Brumbies. Fighting for the Reds

1685
01:27:43,667 --> 01:27:45,147
Speaker 2: the Gordon Good.

1686
01:27:47,147 --> 01:27:50,707
Speaker 15: Corner scores the Reds win from Stealer.

1687
01:27:51,147 --> 01:27:53,067
Speaker 3: It's a Samess.

1688
01:27:53,987 --> 01:27:57,347
Speaker 21: Saess win for less Kisses men.

1689
01:27:57,707 --> 01:28:01,747
Speaker 2: In camera staying in Australia. In the NRL, the Raiders

1690
01:28:01,907 --> 01:28:05,707
Speaker 2: and Manly went to Golden Point and a Lego left foot.

1691
01:28:05,547 --> 01:28:15,467
Speaker 21: Shot his day kid, then he's first has Cambry first

1692
01:28:15,587 --> 01:28:21,227
Speaker 21: choice broken the handle.

1693
01:28:20,107 --> 01:28:23,347
Speaker 2: Twenty nine twenty eight the final score. Meantime, the Sharks

1694
01:28:23,387 --> 01:28:25,227
Speaker 2: put fifty on the Titans.

1695
01:28:24,907 --> 01:28:28,467
Speaker 20: Wines dummy spins Nicico Heinz goes over.

1696
01:28:29,267 --> 01:28:32,667
Speaker 2: The points are flowing for Nico fifty points to ten

1697
01:28:32,987 --> 01:28:36,187
Speaker 2: at Shark Park. Back home and top seed Paul Cole

1698
01:28:36,667 --> 01:28:39,467
Speaker 2: through to this afternoon's final at the New Zealand Squash

1699
01:28:39,507 --> 01:28:40,467
Speaker 2: Open in christ Church.

1700
01:28:40,627 --> 01:28:44,307
Speaker 13: So there it goes seven to one. Incredibly short induration.

1701
01:28:44,467 --> 01:28:45,667
Speaker 15: All credit to Padders.

1702
01:28:45,747 --> 01:28:49,467
Speaker 22: Didn't quite have anything left in the tangry eleventh first tonight, but.

1703
01:28:49,467 --> 01:28:51,067
Speaker 15: It's been a brilliant event for him.

1704
01:28:51,427 --> 01:28:54,187
Speaker 2: Paul Cole though, just making sure that his home crow

1705
01:28:54,227 --> 01:28:56,067
Speaker 2: to Here, can get off to bed early and recover

1706
01:28:56,187 --> 01:28:58,827
Speaker 2: for tomorrow. Paul Cole will face two time Junior World

1707
01:28:58,947 --> 01:29:03,027
Speaker 2: champion Egyptian Mohammad Zakaria in the final later on today

1708
01:29:03,587 --> 01:29:06,587
Speaker 2: to Football Premier League leaders Arsenal through to the if

1709
01:29:06,667 --> 01:29:09,387
Speaker 2: A Cup quarter finals only just though a two to

1710
01:29:09,507 --> 01:29:16,067
Speaker 2: one win over third tier Mansfield Town. It's another sculpture

1711
01:29:17,147 --> 01:29:22,947
Speaker 2: fasten than front again after another minutes of magic. They

1712
01:29:22,987 --> 01:29:27,147
Speaker 2: have needed a couple of absolute crackers to get them

1713
01:29:27,187 --> 01:29:31,467
Speaker 2: in front. Here this afternoon the bear has as laffult

1714
01:29:31,547 --> 01:29:34,107
Speaker 2: this one in in the A League. The Newcastle Jet's

1715
01:29:34,147 --> 01:29:36,307
Speaker 2: still flying high at the top of the A League

1716
01:29:36,587 --> 01:29:39,027
Speaker 2: ladder after a two to one win over the Western

1717
01:29:39,067 --> 01:29:44,347
Speaker 2: Sydney Wanderers Fenced toasts.

1718
01:29:44,787 --> 01:29:48,187
Speaker 20: It's much Nata who takes new cars on in front

1719
01:29:49,267 --> 01:29:54,427
Speaker 20: the center back against his old sign excorsis first to

1720
01:29:54,547 --> 01:29:58,347
Speaker 20: this season and there could be no more.

1721
01:29:58,387 --> 01:30:02,467
Speaker 2: Vital time than this. Bortland FC can reduce that gap

1722
01:30:02,547 --> 01:30:05,947
Speaker 2: back to two points if they beat Perth Glory this afternoon. Meantime,

1723
01:30:05,987 --> 01:30:09,387
Speaker 2: Sydney EFC are a further two points back, coming back

1724
01:30:09,467 --> 01:30:11,467
Speaker 2: from two nil down to draw two to two with

1725
01:30:11,627 --> 01:30:12,587
Speaker 2: Melbourne victories.

1726
01:30:12,867 --> 01:30:15,107
Speaker 15: Time's got the visica.

1727
01:30:16,107 --> 01:30:16,947
Speaker 3: But that's two.

1728
01:30:19,347 --> 01:30:22,467
Speaker 15: Two goals in two minutes and sit down. See your

1729
01:30:22,507 --> 01:30:22,947
Speaker 15: bucket it.

1730
01:30:23,187 --> 01:30:26,267
Speaker 2: Middle distance running sensation Sam Ruth has won the New

1731
01:30:26,347 --> 01:30:30,987
Speaker 2: Zealand fifteen hundred meters National Championship, cruising home in three

1732
01:30:31,067 --> 01:30:34,027
Speaker 2: minutes forty one point four to three seconds last night.

1733
01:30:34,307 --> 01:30:38,507
Speaker 2: He sees them up, tell the home straight. He doesn't care.

1734
01:30:38,907 --> 01:30:41,827
Speaker 22: He knows he's the best, he knows how good he is,

1735
01:30:41,907 --> 01:30:42,707
Speaker 22: and he's shown it.

1736
01:30:42,747 --> 01:30:45,747
Speaker 2: Again in White Tucker eats a night's Sam Ruth National

1737
01:30:45,907 --> 01:30:51,147
Speaker 2: Champion and speaking of unbackable favorites and the NZB key,

1738
01:30:51,187 --> 01:30:54,987
Speaker 2: we had Alice Lee pre race favorite, well written, pushed

1739
01:30:55,227 --> 01:30:58,147
Speaker 2: all the way to the line. It's well written and froed.

1740
01:30:58,387 --> 01:31:01,467
Speaker 2: Belchavel's going to get very close. Well written.

1741
01:31:01,547 --> 01:31:03,667
Speaker 22: He's to post Belchavew's run.

1742
01:31:03,747 --> 01:31:05,387
Speaker 2: Jane payheaded.

1743
01:31:06,707 --> 01:31:10,107
Speaker 20: That's very clo spelt of ours head and almighty learns

1744
01:31:10,147 --> 01:31:11,667
Speaker 20: right on the line with well written.

1745
01:31:12,427 --> 01:31:13,347
Speaker 7: Let's have a look at it.

1746
01:31:14,987 --> 01:31:20,747
Speaker 2: It is very close. She's done it. She has held

1747
01:31:20,827 --> 01:31:26,347
Speaker 2: on well written by nostrils.

1748
01:31:27,307 --> 01:31:31,427
Speaker 1: The biggest names in sport are here. Weekend Sport with

1749
01:31:31,747 --> 01:31:34,507
Speaker 1: Jason Vine, News talks NB well.

1750
01:31:34,387 --> 01:31:37,147
Speaker 2: As I say, I can't remember our busiest sporting weekend.

1751
01:31:37,227 --> 01:31:39,387
Speaker 2: I hope we caught up, caught you up with most

1752
01:31:39,427 --> 01:31:41,627
Speaker 2: of it. I know this stuff we've missed already starting

1753
01:31:41,627 --> 01:31:43,427
Speaker 2: to get the texts and about the stuff we missed.

1754
01:31:43,467 --> 01:31:45,787
Speaker 2: But hopefully we gave you a bit of a flavor

1755
01:31:45,827 --> 01:31:48,627
Speaker 2: of the last little while. Let us two fifteen, the

1756
01:31:48,747 --> 01:31:52,787
Speaker 2: Australian Formula one Grand Prix, has delivered plenty of drama

1757
01:31:53,307 --> 01:31:57,267
Speaker 2: in qualifying at the albert Park circuit in Melbourne as

1758
01:31:57,347 --> 01:31:59,627
Speaker 2: the Formula One season roars into life.

1759
01:31:59,987 --> 01:32:04,467
Speaker 22: George Russeller's looks an absolute certainty for pol so far

1760
01:32:04,867 --> 01:32:09,307
Speaker 22: this Saturday here in albert Mister Saturday comes good and

1761
01:32:09,587 --> 01:32:13,507
Speaker 22: takes professional poll. It's a Mercedes want to with Kenny

1762
01:32:13,547 --> 01:32:14,987
Speaker 22: out Tonelli out the front row?

1763
01:32:15,147 --> 01:32:17,307
Speaker 2: Is Isaac Catcher still out there?

1764
01:32:17,667 --> 01:32:20,587
Speaker 22: This first race for Red Bull Where does he starts?

1765
01:32:21,187 --> 01:32:24,787
Speaker 22: Starts in Dirk place, ahead of the Ferrari, ahead of

1766
01:32:24,827 --> 01:32:25,907
Speaker 22: the McLaren.

1767
01:32:25,827 --> 01:32:28,827
Speaker 2: The surprises up and down the grid, Lots of storylines

1768
01:32:28,907 --> 01:32:31,667
Speaker 2: heading into today's race. Plenty of interest of course in

1769
01:32:31,987 --> 01:32:33,987
Speaker 2: New Zealand about how Liam Lawson is going to go

1770
01:32:34,587 --> 01:32:37,027
Speaker 2: for the season ahead. He will start eighth on the grid.

1771
01:32:37,107 --> 01:32:40,787
Speaker 2: George Russell and Kimmy Antonelli, the two Mercedes drivers at

1772
01:32:40,827 --> 01:32:44,667
Speaker 2: one and two, Isaac Hadger charl Leclair in the Ferrari,

1773
01:32:44,787 --> 01:32:47,827
Speaker 2: then Oscar Piastre and Lando Norris five and six, the

1774
01:32:47,907 --> 01:32:51,547
Speaker 2: two McLaren's, Lewis Hamilton and the Ferrari seventh on the grid,

1775
01:32:51,867 --> 01:32:55,267
Speaker 2: Liam Lawson eighth and his teammate Arvid Lindblad, the other

1776
01:32:55,387 --> 01:32:58,787
Speaker 2: Racing Bulls driver ninth on the grid. To break down

1777
01:32:58,867 --> 01:33:01,587
Speaker 2: qualifying and look ahead to the race itself. We're joined

1778
01:33:01,587 --> 01:33:04,747
Speaker 2: by Australian Formula one broadcaster, the voice of f one

1779
01:33:04,867 --> 01:33:08,187
Speaker 2: in Australia, James Baldwin. James, thanks for joining us. Let's

1780
01:33:08,187 --> 01:33:10,827
Speaker 2: start at the front. George Russell is on pole for

1781
01:33:10,947 --> 01:33:15,787
Speaker 2: Mercedes teammate Kimmi Antonelli alongside. Is that a sign that

1782
01:33:15,947 --> 01:33:17,827
Speaker 2: Mercedes just going to be the team to beat this

1783
01:33:18,027 --> 01:33:19,867
Speaker 2: year under the new regulations?

1784
01:33:20,787 --> 01:33:21,347
Speaker 7: Thanks Jason.

1785
01:33:21,427 --> 01:33:24,627
Speaker 13: Yeah, great to be with you and what a great

1786
01:33:24,907 --> 01:33:27,867
Speaker 13: time finally as a Formula One fans around the world

1787
01:33:28,027 --> 01:33:31,587
Speaker 13: can finally see the true pace of these twenty twenty

1788
01:33:31,627 --> 01:33:35,707
Speaker 13: six cars and the teams that may have been sandbagging

1789
01:33:35,867 --> 01:33:38,827
Speaker 13: a little bit in testing and free practice sessions ahead

1790
01:33:38,867 --> 01:33:43,467
Speaker 13: of qualifying yesterday. And I tell you what, Mercedes are

1791
01:33:43,667 --> 01:33:48,667
Speaker 13: looking exceptionally good. Oh he's totally surprised by that. Probably

1792
01:33:48,827 --> 01:33:52,507
Speaker 13: not really. I think the way that the team has

1793
01:33:52,587 --> 01:33:55,907
Speaker 13: been sort of aiming towards this new rule set change

1794
01:33:56,027 --> 01:33:58,667
Speaker 13: has been that they were trying to be as dominant

1795
01:33:58,707 --> 01:34:01,867
Speaker 13: as possible, as quickly as possible. The surprise, I think

1796
01:34:01,867 --> 01:34:05,107
Speaker 13: to many people is just that Ferrari haven't quite got

1797
01:34:05,547 --> 01:34:08,867
Speaker 13: enough pace at least yet in qualifying to get into

1798
01:34:08,947 --> 01:34:11,267
Speaker 13: that top podium position just yet.

1799
01:34:11,827 --> 01:34:14,427
Speaker 2: One of the book shocks Max for Stappen crashing out

1800
01:34:14,467 --> 01:34:17,387
Speaker 2: early and qualifying what happened and how much does that

1801
01:34:17,547 --> 01:34:19,387
Speaker 2: shake up the complexion of today's race.

1802
01:34:19,947 --> 01:34:23,387
Speaker 13: Yeah, that's a good question. And going down the main

1803
01:34:23,427 --> 01:34:27,307
Speaker 13: straight into turn one, he applied the brakes basically and

1804
01:34:27,427 --> 01:34:29,787
Speaker 13: then the rear axle locked up and you can see

1805
01:34:29,867 --> 01:34:31,667
Speaker 13: on the replay. If you haven't yet watched it, I

1806
01:34:31,827 --> 01:34:35,347
Speaker 13: encourage you to do so. He just lost control of

1807
01:34:35,707 --> 01:34:38,347
Speaker 13: the rear of the car as he prepped going to

1808
01:34:38,427 --> 01:34:41,667
Speaker 13: turn right into that first turn, and the car spun

1809
01:34:41,707 --> 01:34:44,587
Speaker 13: around on him entering the barriers. It looked like after

1810
01:34:44,787 --> 01:34:48,147
Speaker 13: the incident that may have hurt his hands or his wrists.

1811
01:34:48,627 --> 01:34:52,387
Speaker 13: The front axle collected the barriers there, but in true

1812
01:34:52,467 --> 01:34:55,307
Speaker 13: maxis Staffin's style, he sort of just brushed it off immediately.

1813
01:34:55,427 --> 01:34:59,347
Speaker 13: And I think for Red Bull, of course sad that

1814
01:34:59,507 --> 01:35:02,947
Speaker 13: they aren't towards the front for them, But if Max

1815
01:35:02,987 --> 01:35:05,147
Speaker 13: of Staffan drives anything like he has done for his

1816
01:35:05,267 --> 01:35:08,347
Speaker 13: Formula One career, he will not be remaining at the

1817
01:35:08,347 --> 01:35:09,547
Speaker 13: back of the pack for very long.

1818
01:35:09,667 --> 01:35:12,707
Speaker 2: All right, Well, Isaac hadgaw Is up and third on

1819
01:35:12,787 --> 01:35:15,667
Speaker 2: the grid, doesn't he. So it's not a I mean,

1820
01:35:15,867 --> 01:35:18,227
Speaker 2: obviously you don't want to lose your top driver or

1821
01:35:18,587 --> 01:35:19,987
Speaker 2: have them start at the back of the field, but

1822
01:35:20,107 --> 01:35:23,187
Speaker 2: not an absolutely catastrophic day for red Bull.

1823
01:35:23,947 --> 01:35:26,627
Speaker 13: No, that's certainly true, and I think if anything to

1824
01:35:26,747 --> 01:35:30,667
Speaker 13: take away from qualifying, specifically for Isaac Hadja, red Bull

1825
01:35:30,827 --> 01:35:34,547
Speaker 13: may have finally broken this curse so to speak, of

1826
01:35:34,707 --> 01:35:37,547
Speaker 13: trying to find a driver that can be comparable to

1827
01:35:37,627 --> 01:35:40,747
Speaker 13: maxis Staffin. Because up until the point of where Max

1828
01:35:41,227 --> 01:35:44,187
Speaker 13: had his issue in qualifying, all the way through the

1829
01:35:44,267 --> 01:35:47,587
Speaker 13: free practice sessions, Isaac Hajar was there or thereabouts or

1830
01:35:47,627 --> 01:35:52,107
Speaker 13: even ahead of Maxistaffen in timings, and certainly with the

1831
01:35:52,227 --> 01:35:55,227
Speaker 13: race simulations and the qualifying simulations that the team would

1832
01:35:55,227 --> 01:35:58,267
Speaker 13: have been running in those times, I think everyone would

1833
01:35:58,267 --> 01:36:02,987
Speaker 13: be quietly happy with his performance, especially compared to this

1834
01:36:03,107 --> 01:36:05,747
Speaker 13: time last year where he didn't even start the race.

1835
01:36:06,947 --> 01:36:10,027
Speaker 13: For him, he'll be wanting to sort of remedy that,

1836
01:36:10,107 --> 01:36:12,707
Speaker 13: I suppose and be looking to finish on the podium

1837
01:36:12,907 --> 01:36:14,347
Speaker 13: in his first race for Red Bull.

1838
01:36:14,547 --> 01:36:17,587
Speaker 2: The Australian crowd, of course, will be watching Oscar Piastri closely,

1839
01:36:17,707 --> 01:36:20,867
Speaker 2: starting fifth on the grid. What are his chances of

1840
01:36:21,227 --> 01:36:22,627
Speaker 2: fighting for a podium finish.

1841
01:36:23,187 --> 01:36:25,107
Speaker 13: I spoke with Oscar a couple of days ago and

1842
01:36:25,827 --> 01:36:27,947
Speaker 13: he is quietly confident.

1843
01:36:28,147 --> 01:36:28,507
Speaker 3: I think.

1844
01:36:28,587 --> 01:36:31,787
Speaker 13: I mean this is we haven't had an Australian driver

1845
01:36:31,947 --> 01:36:34,947
Speaker 13: successfully stand on the podium. We had Daniel Ricardo in

1846
01:36:34,987 --> 01:36:37,907
Speaker 13: twenty fourteen, but then he was disqualified through a fuel

1847
01:36:37,987 --> 01:36:42,467
Speaker 13: flow issue. So for us as Australians in that home

1848
01:36:42,587 --> 01:36:46,107
Speaker 13: crowd sense we're all behind Oscar. He's quietly confident. It

1849
01:36:46,227 --> 01:36:48,827
Speaker 13: looks like he's got a better understanding of this car

1850
01:36:48,907 --> 01:36:52,027
Speaker 13: than his teammate Lando Norris, who just wasn't able to

1851
01:36:52,107 --> 01:36:54,787
Speaker 13: get to grips with the way it was performing, certainly

1852
01:36:54,867 --> 01:36:58,627
Speaker 13: through the first sector of this track, whereas Oscar was

1853
01:36:59,187 --> 01:37:02,107
Speaker 13: getting faster and faster. So we're quietly confident. We don't

1854
01:37:02,107 --> 01:37:03,787
Speaker 13: want to put the mockers on him, of course, but

1855
01:37:04,427 --> 01:37:08,347
Speaker 13: he is probably hoping to try and remedy last year

1856
01:37:08,387 --> 01:37:11,667
Speaker 13: where the last couple of lapses the rain fell on

1857
01:37:11,827 --> 01:37:14,627
Speaker 13: turn thirteen, he's spun off onto the grass and so

1858
01:37:14,747 --> 01:37:16,867
Speaker 13: he'll be wanting to get one up on his teammate

1859
01:37:16,987 --> 01:37:18,027
Speaker 13: come race one today.

1860
01:37:18,147 --> 01:37:20,467
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about our man Liam Lawson. Eighth

1861
01:37:20,707 --> 01:37:23,827
Speaker 2: on the grid. How did you evaluate his qualifying performance.

1862
01:37:24,707 --> 01:37:27,907
Speaker 13: Liam is in a position that is sadly for him,

1863
01:37:28,267 --> 01:37:31,227
Speaker 13: probably well under the microscope, and it's not necessarily his

1864
01:37:31,547 --> 01:37:34,587
Speaker 13: driving that is doing that. It's the young rookie from

1865
01:37:35,347 --> 01:37:38,867
Speaker 13: Great Britain, Avid Lynnblad, who is the only rookie this

1866
01:37:38,987 --> 01:37:41,787
Speaker 13: season in twenty twenty six, but is also his teammate.

1867
01:37:42,467 --> 01:37:45,547
Speaker 13: And Arvid all the way through the weekend was exceptionally

1868
01:37:45,827 --> 01:37:49,267
Speaker 13: impressive and in the qualifying in Q one rather he

1869
01:37:49,467 --> 01:37:53,587
Speaker 13: outqualified Liam. But for Liam to then outqualify Arvid, that's

1870
01:37:53,667 --> 01:37:57,947
Speaker 13: exceptionally important for his mental state and also for the

1871
01:37:58,067 --> 01:38:00,827
Speaker 13: team to realize who you know, the more senior driver

1872
01:38:00,987 --> 01:38:05,107
Speaker 13: is I suppose for this weekend. We all love Liam.

1873
01:38:05,227 --> 01:38:10,747
Speaker 13: He is an exceptional talent and although the quick trip

1874
01:38:10,827 --> 01:38:14,547
Speaker 13: to Red Bull Racing last year yielded him going back

1875
01:38:14,587 --> 01:38:17,147
Speaker 13: to racing Bulls, it may have well and truly saved

1876
01:38:17,187 --> 01:38:19,307
Speaker 13: his racing career because he does find himself in this

1877
01:38:19,427 --> 01:38:22,267
Speaker 13: race seat again this year. Whether or not Red Bull

1878
01:38:22,747 --> 01:38:25,067
Speaker 13: will take him back in the future is yet to

1879
01:38:25,147 --> 01:38:27,627
Speaker 13: be seen, but he's still a Formula one driver, He's

1880
01:38:27,627 --> 01:38:31,187
Speaker 13: still got exceptional pace and the way that the regulations

1881
01:38:31,227 --> 01:38:34,107
Speaker 13: are working this year Jason, there's more tactical and strategic

1882
01:38:34,227 --> 01:38:37,067
Speaker 13: things that drivers can do from the cockpit of their

1883
01:38:37,107 --> 01:38:40,747
Speaker 13: own car, including using straight line mode, which is changing

1884
01:38:40,827 --> 01:38:44,147
Speaker 13: the way that the wings both front and rear operate,

1885
01:38:44,387 --> 01:38:47,947
Speaker 13: and also an electrical boost mode too, and Liam's got

1886
01:38:48,227 --> 01:38:50,467
Speaker 13: a wise head on those shoulders, so it'll be interesting

1887
01:38:50,507 --> 01:38:52,947
Speaker 13: to see how he deploys those this weekend.

1888
01:38:52,787 --> 01:38:54,907
Speaker 2: If we just so mat a little bit James. In

1889
01:38:55,067 --> 01:38:58,107
Speaker 2: terms of the overall season, what does Liam Lawson need

1890
01:38:58,227 --> 01:39:00,947
Speaker 2: to show this year or do this year to really

1891
01:39:01,107 --> 01:39:04,787
Speaker 2: establish himself as a long term Formula One driver.

1892
01:39:06,027 --> 01:39:09,587
Speaker 13: The short answer is he needs to outperform Avid in

1893
01:39:09,667 --> 01:39:14,187
Speaker 13: almost every race, as Avid's a rookie for this season,

1894
01:39:14,587 --> 01:39:17,507
Speaker 13: but also because these cars are brand new, that might

1895
01:39:17,747 --> 01:39:21,947
Speaker 13: be more difficult than we think, certainly because Arvid doesn't

1896
01:39:22,027 --> 01:39:25,427
Speaker 13: have a reference point of last year's cars to get

1897
01:39:25,627 --> 01:39:28,267
Speaker 13: to groups with like the rest of the drivers do,

1898
01:39:28,347 --> 01:39:32,307
Speaker 13: including Liam. But if he is to remain in at

1899
01:39:32,387 --> 01:39:35,187
Speaker 13: least in Racing Bulls, he would need to outperform. But

1900
01:39:35,387 --> 01:39:38,267
Speaker 13: I would say if there's any opportunity for him to

1901
01:39:38,827 --> 01:39:41,867
Speaker 13: grab some top five finishes this year, and I would

1902
01:39:41,907 --> 01:39:46,307
Speaker 13: say probably Racing Bulls is probably the fifth fastest team

1903
01:39:46,387 --> 01:39:49,787
Speaker 13: that looks like at the moment after a Ferrari Red

1904
01:39:49,867 --> 01:39:53,987
Speaker 13: Bull McLaren Mercedes. So he'll be fighting sort of around

1905
01:39:54,547 --> 01:39:57,587
Speaker 13: that sixth seventh place. But if he can get fifth,

1906
01:39:57,627 --> 01:40:01,107
Speaker 13: and if you can send some overtakes, especially on some

1907
01:40:01,187 --> 01:40:03,227
Speaker 13: of those other top teams, then I think if he's

1908
01:40:03,227 --> 01:40:05,667
Speaker 13: starting to establish himself. But I think the confidence he

1909
01:40:05,747 --> 01:40:07,787
Speaker 13: has or ready, the fact that he's still in the

1910
01:40:07,867 --> 01:40:10,787
Speaker 13: sport is a big thing. It's a brand new year

1911
01:40:10,867 --> 01:40:13,307
Speaker 13: for him. We don't have to think about him being

1912
01:40:13,627 --> 01:40:17,027
Speaker 13: promoted and then demoted back to RB. He can just

1913
01:40:17,187 --> 01:40:20,227
Speaker 13: be a racing driver in this team and with any luck,

1914
01:40:20,787 --> 01:40:23,747
Speaker 13: maybe he gets a promotion at some point back to

1915
01:40:23,787 --> 01:40:27,387
Speaker 13: the team or he finds a home somewhere else in

1916
01:40:27,427 --> 01:40:28,307
Speaker 13: the next couple of years.

1917
01:40:28,507 --> 01:40:30,667
Speaker 2: All right, let's circle back to the race today. To

1918
01:40:30,747 --> 01:40:33,827
Speaker 2: financi Albert Park can be very tricky for overtaking. How

1919
01:40:33,907 --> 01:40:35,787
Speaker 2: much of this race is going to be dictated by

1920
01:40:35,867 --> 01:40:37,507
Speaker 2: grit position and by the start.

1921
01:40:38,747 --> 01:40:40,867
Speaker 13: It's a great question, to be honest, Jason and I

1922
01:40:41,147 --> 01:40:43,867
Speaker 13: just don't know, because these cars are brand new and

1923
01:40:43,947 --> 01:40:47,747
Speaker 13: we've never seen them in a racing format. Track position

1924
01:40:47,827 --> 01:40:51,547
Speaker 13: is always incredibly important, so those sort of towards the

1925
01:40:51,667 --> 01:40:54,147
Speaker 13: top ten will be having a much better time. Of course,

1926
01:40:54,227 --> 01:40:56,427
Speaker 13: Cadillac is brand new this year, so we've got an

1927
01:40:56,467 --> 01:40:59,627
Speaker 13: eleventh team and two extra cars, so twenty two cars

1928
01:40:59,707 --> 01:41:03,907
Speaker 13: now will be circulating the Albert Park circuit. What will

1929
01:41:03,907 --> 01:41:06,027
Speaker 13: be interesting in my mind is whether or not we

1930
01:41:06,107 --> 01:41:10,307
Speaker 13: see one or a two stop strategy for tires come

1931
01:41:10,907 --> 01:41:13,947
Speaker 13: the race this afternoon, and from my mind, I think

1932
01:41:13,987 --> 01:41:17,467
Speaker 13: we're probably going to be looking at an interesting way

1933
01:41:17,587 --> 01:41:21,707
Speaker 13: of this battery usage and how we regenerate the battery

1934
01:41:21,867 --> 01:41:25,427
Speaker 13: for the drivers to use this boost mode. So from

1935
01:41:25,427 --> 01:41:28,227
Speaker 13: my mind, who knows which is exciting in its own way?

1936
01:41:28,267 --> 01:41:30,547
Speaker 13: You can be honest, because Formula one has been you know,

1937
01:41:31,027 --> 01:41:33,867
Speaker 13: a little bit samey for the last sort of six

1938
01:41:34,027 --> 01:41:37,347
Speaker 13: years especially, but to go racing with these brand new

1939
01:41:37,387 --> 01:41:39,827
Speaker 13: set of regulations with one new driver on the grid,

1940
01:41:39,947 --> 01:41:42,947
Speaker 13: but the return of two other drivers and a whole

1941
01:41:43,027 --> 01:41:45,507
Speaker 13: team is simply just exciting.

1942
01:41:45,707 --> 01:41:47,267
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't wait to see how it plays out.

1943
01:41:47,307 --> 01:41:50,227
Speaker 2: Great to get your analysis and your expertise. James, thanks

1944
01:41:50,227 --> 01:41:52,187
Speaker 2: so much for joining us. Good on you mate, Thank you, No,

1945
01:41:52,307 --> 01:41:54,467
Speaker 2: thank you, James, James Baldwin. They're the voice of F

1946
01:41:54,507 --> 01:41:59,667
Speaker 2: one in Australia. So the year begins with the Australian

1947
01:41:59,707 --> 01:42:02,227
Speaker 2: Formula One Grand Prix five o'clock this afternoon around the

1948
01:42:02,267 --> 01:42:05,507
Speaker 2: Old Park circuit and Melbourne. Getting a lot of photos

1949
01:42:05,547 --> 01:42:08,267
Speaker 2: sent from three means who have made the trip over there.

1950
01:42:08,387 --> 01:42:11,627
Speaker 2: It looks like a terrific atmosphere as per usual. George

1951
01:42:11,707 --> 01:42:14,147
Speaker 2: Russell and Kimmy Antonelli on the front road of the

1952
01:42:14,387 --> 01:42:17,827
Speaker 2: front row of the grid, the Mercedes drivers both of them.

1953
01:42:17,867 --> 01:42:20,667
Speaker 2: Then Isaac hadjar in the red ball Max for stapp

1954
01:42:20,707 --> 01:42:22,507
Speaker 2: and will start from the back of the field after

1955
01:42:22,587 --> 01:42:26,947
Speaker 2: crashing and qualifying. Charlie Clair Is at fourth on the grid.

1956
01:42:27,267 --> 01:42:30,627
Speaker 2: Then Oscar Piastri and Lando Norris, the reigning world champion

1957
01:42:30,707 --> 01:42:33,267
Speaker 2: of course, the two McClaren's at five and sex Lewis

1958
01:42:33,307 --> 01:42:37,227
Speaker 2: Hamilton and the second Ferrari seventh on the grid alongside

1959
01:42:37,347 --> 01:42:41,587
Speaker 2: Liam Lawson Racing Bulls and Arvid line Blood ninth on

1960
01:42:41,667 --> 01:42:45,027
Speaker 2: the grid. The other Racing Bulls driver. Just can't wait

1961
01:42:45,147 --> 01:42:48,147
Speaker 2: to see what plays out around the Albert Park circuit.

1962
01:42:48,187 --> 01:42:50,787
Speaker 2: A bit later on this afternoon, just updating you on

1963
01:42:50,987 --> 01:42:54,227
Speaker 2: some live sport from Dunedin where the White Fans have

1964
01:42:54,307 --> 01:42:58,107
Speaker 2: lost their first wicket Izzie Gaze has been dismissed for twenty.

1965
01:42:58,507 --> 01:43:01,307
Speaker 2: The White Fan's only chasing one hundred and three to

1966
01:43:01,387 --> 01:43:03,747
Speaker 2: beat some Babwe there forty nine for one. Mellikur is

1967
01:43:03,827 --> 01:43:06,387
Speaker 2: unbeaten on twenty. She's been joined by Maddi Great and

1968
01:43:06,387 --> 01:43:08,747
Speaker 2: who's got a couple of runs in New Zealand forty

1969
01:43:08,827 --> 01:43:11,147
Speaker 2: nine for one in the tenth over as they look

1970
01:43:11,187 --> 01:43:14,027
Speaker 2: to chase downs and Babwe's very modest one hundred and

1971
01:43:14,107 --> 01:43:16,947
Speaker 2: two all outs and in the Planket Shield. We were

1972
01:43:17,027 --> 01:43:19,867
Speaker 2: keeping eyes on this because Brett Randall had taken the

1973
01:43:19,947 --> 01:43:24,147
Speaker 2: first seven Northern Districts wickets and if you are just

1974
01:43:24,267 --> 01:43:27,147
Speaker 2: joining us this afternoon, he's become the first player in

1975
01:43:27,267 --> 01:43:31,107
Speaker 2: the history of first class cricket anywhere in the world

1976
01:43:31,547 --> 01:43:34,347
Speaker 2: to take five wickets and five balls. He did that

1977
01:43:34,507 --> 01:43:38,067
Speaker 2: and had the first seven wickets for his site Central

1978
01:43:38,107 --> 01:43:40,827
Speaker 2: against Northern. Northern have been bowled out for eighty two

1979
01:43:41,547 --> 01:43:44,267
Speaker 2: and Brett Randal hasn't got any more wickets. Ray Toll's

1980
01:43:44,267 --> 01:43:46,947
Speaker 2: got a wicket, Toby Findley's got a wicket and Jayden

1981
01:43:47,067 --> 01:43:51,067
Speaker 2: Lennox has one as well. Northern all out for eighty two.

1982
01:43:51,307 --> 01:43:54,507
Speaker 2: They trail by two hundred and ninety one runs. We

1983
01:43:54,667 --> 01:43:56,627
Speaker 2: wait to see whether the follow one is enforced. You'd

1984
01:43:56,667 --> 01:43:59,307
Speaker 2: have to think that it will be by by Central Districts.

1985
01:43:59,467 --> 01:44:01,707
Speaker 2: Who's their captain? Jayden Lennox to see the captain of

1986
01:44:02,347 --> 01:44:04,747
Speaker 2: Central Districts, I think he is. I can't imagine no,

1987
01:44:04,867 --> 01:44:06,787
Speaker 2: Tom Bruce. Of course, I can't imagine that it would

1988
01:44:06,787 --> 01:44:08,747
Speaker 2: be too much of a decision to chuck them back

1989
01:44:08,787 --> 01:44:11,267
Speaker 2: in there. Wouldn't you try and bowl them out again? Anyway,

1990
01:44:11,347 --> 01:44:14,467
Speaker 2: We'll keep we'll keep eyes on that for you as well.

1991
01:44:17,027 --> 01:44:19,627
Speaker 2: Take a break, come back, head off to Auckland FC

1992
01:44:19,787 --> 01:44:22,987
Speaker 2: where they take on Perth Glory this afternoon, Go Media Stadium.

1993
01:44:23,027 --> 01:44:24,987
Speaker 2: They need to win to get the heat on Newcastle

1994
01:44:25,147 --> 01:44:28,307
Speaker 2: at the top. Logan Rogerson going to join us after this,

1995
01:44:29,107 --> 01:44:30,587
Speaker 2: call us how you see it on.

1996
01:44:32,467 --> 01:44:36,587
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Paine and GJ. Gardner Holmes, New

1997
01:44:36,667 --> 01:44:39,427
Speaker 1: Zealand's most trusted home builder News talks that'd be.

1998
01:44:39,827 --> 01:44:42,747
Speaker 2: Coming up twenty nine away from three. On Texta's twice

1999
01:44:42,747 --> 01:44:45,507
Speaker 2: you've listed the top nine starting position, not mentioning at

2000
01:44:45,547 --> 01:44:47,467
Speaker 2: Audi at ten and eleven on the grid. I can

2001
01:44:47,467 --> 01:44:49,787
Speaker 2: imagine you're listing the top ten and missing eleven but

2002
01:44:49,867 --> 01:44:52,227
Speaker 2: come on, make out e tenth and eleventh. Yes, you're right.

2003
01:44:52,547 --> 01:44:54,067
Speaker 2: I should have mentioned that I only went down to

2004
01:44:54,227 --> 01:44:56,347
Speaker 2: nine because we've got to Liam at eight and then

2005
01:44:56,387 --> 01:44:59,347
Speaker 2: his teammatee arvid Lundband at nine. But you're right. Tenth

2006
01:44:59,427 --> 01:45:03,027
Speaker 2: on the grid in the Audi Gabrielle bortdaletto and Nico

2007
01:45:03,267 --> 01:45:06,507
Speaker 2: Holkenberg eleventh on the grid as well. Thank thank you

2008
01:45:06,547 --> 01:45:09,107
Speaker 2: very much indeed for pointing that out. Have also had

2009
01:45:09,227 --> 01:45:14,987
Speaker 2: emailed to me some information about the comparison with sharing

2010
01:45:15,707 --> 01:45:19,267
Speaker 2: and marathon running. Thank you Dom for sending that through.

2011
01:45:19,347 --> 01:45:20,827
Speaker 2: Haven't had the chance to click on the link you

2012
01:45:20,907 --> 01:45:22,867
Speaker 2: sent yet, but I know that when I do, it

2013
01:45:22,907 --> 01:45:24,947
Speaker 2: will give me a lot of information which I look

2014
01:45:25,027 --> 01:45:28,987
Speaker 2: forward to reading. Thanks indeed, the comparison made earlier, that's

2015
01:45:29,027 --> 01:45:32,627
Speaker 2: sharing two hundred odd cheaper days like running two marathons

2016
01:45:32,667 --> 01:45:34,027
Speaker 2: in a day and then doing it back to back

2017
01:45:34,107 --> 01:45:38,427
Speaker 2: to back to back. So sharers obviously amazing physical specimens

2018
01:45:38,547 --> 01:45:44,947
Speaker 2: and incredible athletes comparable to marathon runners. Auckland FC are

2019
01:45:44,987 --> 01:45:47,027
Speaker 2: back in a league action this afternoon. They take on

2020
01:45:47,187 --> 01:45:50,747
Speaker 2: Perth glory Go Media Stadium three o'clock this afternoon. They

2021
01:45:50,827 --> 01:45:53,267
Speaker 2: come in off the back of a three nil win

2022
01:45:53,787 --> 01:45:57,067
Speaker 2: against Melbourne City last time out and among the goalscorers

2023
01:45:57,427 --> 01:46:07,187
Speaker 2: Logan Rogerson my with a chance to cross Ken who

2024
01:46:07,307 --> 01:46:08,827
Speaker 2: has claimed their goal.

2025
01:46:08,667 --> 01:46:11,707
Speaker 17: Of season seventeen games without one.

2026
01:46:12,427 --> 01:46:15,267
Speaker 2: Fuddy hits over the open their hair and Tetrick features

2027
01:46:15,387 --> 01:46:18,547
Speaker 2: finally Fiature also the DC finally hit just before the

2028
01:46:19,107 --> 01:46:22,187
Speaker 2: Logan Rogerson joins us on Weekend Sport. Thanks for taking

2029
01:46:22,187 --> 01:46:25,347
Speaker 2: the time, Logan. February was really really good for Auckland FC.

2030
01:46:25,587 --> 01:46:28,227
Speaker 2: Three wins in a draw in the calendar month after

2031
01:46:28,307 --> 01:46:32,307
Speaker 2: a difficult January? Were you won just one of your

2032
01:46:32,507 --> 01:46:37,067
Speaker 2: six matches in January? So did anything change markedly in February?

2033
01:46:38,187 --> 01:46:41,667
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess, you know, I think we specially for

2034
01:46:42,467 --> 01:46:46,387
Speaker 4: we changed the formation a little bit, the GASA made

2035
01:46:46,387 --> 01:46:51,507
Speaker 4: a few changes. Obviously we had Cozy suspended, so we

2036
01:46:51,627 --> 01:46:54,067
Speaker 4: had to change things a little bit for the derby.

2037
01:46:54,147 --> 01:46:57,307
Speaker 4: But I think it worked out quite well actually for us.

2038
01:46:57,387 --> 01:47:00,587
Speaker 4: And you know we kid the same team again City

2039
01:47:02,227 --> 01:47:05,467
Speaker 4: and yeah, I think, yeah, I thinks, yeah, we're working

2040
01:47:05,507 --> 01:47:07,347
Speaker 4: on these last two years quite nicely.

2041
01:47:07,587 --> 01:47:09,987
Speaker 2: Absolutely they did. Was there always the thought that that

2042
01:47:10,067 --> 01:47:12,707
Speaker 2: would happen, even though as I say, January there was

2043
01:47:12,787 --> 01:47:15,067
Speaker 2: just a one win during that calendar month and a

2044
01:47:15,107 --> 01:47:17,347
Speaker 2: couple of results that didn't go your way. Was there

2045
01:47:17,387 --> 01:47:19,427
Speaker 2: always the faith and the belief in the squad that

2046
01:47:19,907 --> 01:47:21,867
Speaker 2: it was just a blip and things would come right.

2047
01:47:23,187 --> 01:47:23,787
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think so.

2048
01:47:23,987 --> 01:47:27,067
Speaker 4: Like in my opinion, I think we've got the best

2049
01:47:27,507 --> 01:47:29,427
Speaker 4: depths or the best squad or one of the best

2050
01:47:29,427 --> 01:47:33,427
Speaker 4: squads in the league anyway, So yeah, and all the

2051
01:47:33,467 --> 01:47:35,707
Speaker 4: boys felt that that we just needed, you know, to

2052
01:47:35,747 --> 01:47:37,667
Speaker 4: get get a good result and you know things will

2053
01:47:37,707 --> 01:47:38,427
Speaker 4: start moving along.

2054
01:47:38,547 --> 01:47:42,307
Speaker 2: Lastly, again fantastic. Well I've certainly done that. So seven

2055
01:47:42,347 --> 01:47:44,187
Speaker 2: games to go in the regular season, you're well and

2056
01:47:44,307 --> 01:47:46,707
Speaker 2: truly in and around the top of the table. How

2057
01:47:46,787 --> 01:47:49,507
Speaker 2: well placed do you feel for a run at the

2058
01:47:49,547 --> 01:47:52,067
Speaker 2: Premier's plate again over the next couple of months.

2059
01:47:54,267 --> 01:47:56,147
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so. I think we're in a good position.

2060
01:47:56,867 --> 01:48:00,107
Speaker 4: You know, obviously only two points of Newcastle, so we're

2061
01:48:00,187 --> 01:48:03,267
Speaker 4: hunting them down and you know, I think for us,

2062
01:48:03,307 --> 01:48:05,867
Speaker 4: we obviously just did a focus on our game in

2063
01:48:05,907 --> 01:48:08,467
Speaker 4: the game that we have to play. But you know,

2064
01:48:08,667 --> 01:48:10,627
Speaker 4: I think at the moment we're putting a lot of

2065
01:48:10,747 --> 01:48:13,907
Speaker 4: a lot of pressure on Newcastle. Were playing everal well at.

2066
01:48:13,787 --> 01:48:16,467
Speaker 2: The moment you scored your first goal of the season

2067
01:48:16,587 --> 01:48:19,027
Speaker 2: against Melbourne City last weekend. How good did it feel

2068
01:48:19,027 --> 01:48:20,347
Speaker 2: when that ht the back of the net.

2069
01:48:21,907 --> 01:48:26,027
Speaker 4: Honestly, it was a good feeling. I waited quite a

2070
01:48:26,107 --> 01:48:27,947
Speaker 4: long time, longer then and then I wanted to wait

2071
01:48:28,187 --> 01:48:30,547
Speaker 4: to score my first goal. But you know, like you said,

2072
01:48:30,547 --> 01:48:34,707
Speaker 4: a massive weight just come off my shoulders. And yeah,

2073
01:48:34,867 --> 01:48:37,867
Speaker 4: you know, it's one of those things where I was

2074
01:48:37,907 --> 01:48:40,627
Speaker 4: getting chance in the game. But you know, because I

2075
01:48:40,707 --> 01:48:42,907
Speaker 4: hadn't scored, maybe I'm feeling I don't know, a little

2076
01:48:42,907 --> 01:48:45,187
Speaker 4: bit more tense in some of these moments, so that

2077
01:48:45,547 --> 01:48:47,707
Speaker 4: you know, I was unable to execute, you know, some

2078
01:48:47,827 --> 01:48:50,107
Speaker 4: of the chances how I would have liked to. So,

2079
01:48:50,987 --> 01:48:53,147
Speaker 4: you know, now getting the first one out of the way, hopefully,

2080
01:48:53,547 --> 01:48:56,467
Speaker 4: you know, in those goal scoring opportunities, I'm a little

2081
01:48:56,467 --> 01:48:57,507
Speaker 4: bit more freer in the mind.

2082
01:48:57,587 --> 01:48:59,547
Speaker 2: I guess we'll often say, I don't know, I've heard

2083
01:48:59,547 --> 01:49:01,987
Speaker 2: strikers say a lot. You know that once one goal comes,

2084
01:49:02,627 --> 01:49:05,387
Speaker 2: others will follow. This is probably a silly question, but

2085
01:49:05,507 --> 01:49:07,427
Speaker 2: do you feel that might be the case with you?

2086
01:49:09,267 --> 01:49:13,587
Speaker 4: Well, I hope, so, I hope that's the case. You know,

2087
01:49:13,747 --> 01:49:15,987
Speaker 4: I think last season I was quite lucky, you know,

2088
01:49:16,027 --> 01:49:18,467
Speaker 4: I scored in the opening game of the season, which

2089
01:49:18,827 --> 01:49:22,467
Speaker 4: you know made a lot easier for me. But yeah,

2090
01:49:22,547 --> 01:49:24,667
Speaker 4: I've scored. I've scored now last weekend, so hopefully I

2091
01:49:24,787 --> 01:49:27,507
Speaker 4: can get a few more and help the team pushing

2092
01:49:27,587 --> 01:49:30,227
Speaker 4: on to win the league and then pushing on to

2093
01:49:30,307 --> 01:49:31,187
Speaker 4: the finals as well.

2094
01:49:31,827 --> 01:49:33,747
Speaker 2: Was it starting to play on your mind more than,

2095
01:49:33,947 --> 01:49:36,467
Speaker 2: you know, more than than was ideal? Will you start

2096
01:49:36,507 --> 01:49:38,107
Speaker 2: to think about it a bit much during the week

2097
01:49:38,147 --> 01:49:39,147
Speaker 2: for example.

2098
01:49:41,667 --> 01:49:45,587
Speaker 4: Yeah, it does play on your mind a lot, you know,

2099
01:49:45,707 --> 01:49:49,627
Speaker 4: not scoring, especially after last season I contributed quite a bit.

2100
01:49:50,987 --> 01:49:53,867
Speaker 4: But yeah, it does eat away at you as a

2101
01:49:53,907 --> 01:49:57,427
Speaker 4: striker because you know, people always look at you know,

2102
01:49:57,587 --> 01:49:59,907
Speaker 4: goals and assists and that that's how you get judged

2103
01:49:59,907 --> 01:50:02,547
Speaker 4: as an attacking player. And you know, people kind of

2104
01:50:03,107 --> 01:50:05,787
Speaker 4: you know, forget, you can play a good game but

2105
01:50:05,907 --> 01:50:08,227
Speaker 4: don't score and you know, or you could play an

2106
01:50:08,267 --> 01:50:09,987
Speaker 4: average game of score and people think you've had an

2107
01:50:10,107 --> 01:50:13,507
Speaker 4: amazing game. That's just a nature of being being an attacker.

2108
01:50:13,667 --> 01:50:16,867
Speaker 4: So yeah, it did play my mind quite a bit,

2109
01:50:17,107 --> 01:50:17,627
Speaker 4: to be honest.

2110
01:50:18,307 --> 01:50:20,667
Speaker 2: But what about your teammates and the coaching staff, what

2111
01:50:20,827 --> 01:50:23,347
Speaker 2: what sort of things were they were they reinforcing to you?

2112
01:50:23,507 --> 01:50:26,027
Speaker 2: To you know, to keep your confidence high during during

2113
01:50:26,067 --> 01:50:26,427
Speaker 2: that time.

2114
01:50:29,107 --> 01:50:32,827
Speaker 4: Yeah, to be honest, Steve would always remind me before

2115
01:50:33,067 --> 01:50:35,707
Speaker 4: before every game, He's like, I think it's about that

2116
01:50:35,827 --> 01:50:40,347
Speaker 4: if you score so yeah, and I would get a

2117
01:50:40,347 --> 01:50:42,107
Speaker 4: bit of stick from the boys, you know, a bit

2118
01:50:42,147 --> 01:50:47,467
Speaker 4: of friendly banter. But yeah, obviously you know it's guildy.

2119
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Speaker 4: We spent a lot of time with Guilty and the

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01:50:49,587 --> 01:50:53,267
Speaker 4: strikers working on finishing and you know, he just said,

2121
01:50:53,307 --> 01:50:55,587
Speaker 4: you know, you're just trying and stay calm in these situations.

2122
01:50:55,667 --> 01:50:59,427
Speaker 4: And Lake said, well, once you score one, then you

2123
01:50:59,507 --> 01:51:00,227
Speaker 4: know more will come.

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01:51:00,947 --> 01:51:03,307
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I'm I'm certain that's the case. And you're

2125
01:51:03,347 --> 01:51:05,387
Speaker 2: so right, you know, like you can have an absolute

2126
01:51:05,467 --> 01:51:07,147
Speaker 2: blind that can't you And there's nothing to show for

2127
01:51:07,267 --> 01:51:08,427
Speaker 2: it at the end of it in terms of a

2128
01:51:08,707 --> 01:51:10,667
Speaker 2: in terms of a stat a goal or an assistant

2129
01:51:10,707 --> 01:51:11,907
Speaker 2: as you thought you might get one and off your

2130
01:51:11,987 --> 01:51:13,787
Speaker 2: knee from a yard and all of a sudden he's

2131
01:51:13,787 --> 01:51:15,467
Speaker 2: a goal scorer. Must have had a terrific game. It's

2132
01:51:15,467 --> 01:51:20,667
Speaker 2: a funny old game football. You've alternated between starting and

2133
01:51:20,907 --> 01:51:23,347
Speaker 2: an impact role this season. Last year you were mainly

2134
01:51:23,587 --> 01:51:25,467
Speaker 2: used from the start. How big an adjustment has that

2135
01:51:25,587 --> 01:51:26,027
Speaker 2: been for you.

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01:51:28,147 --> 01:51:33,067
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's you know, it's a big change. It's it's

2137
01:51:33,307 --> 01:51:35,627
Speaker 4: you know, it's quite difficult. I don't think a lot

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01:51:35,667 --> 01:51:39,067
Speaker 4: of people understand coming into the game when you know,

2139
01:51:39,227 --> 01:51:42,587
Speaker 4: the intensity is you know, quite high as well, you

2140
01:51:42,667 --> 01:51:45,947
Speaker 4: don't really have time to adjust to the speed. And

2141
01:51:46,667 --> 01:51:49,347
Speaker 4: you know, especially these last you know, last thirty thirty

2142
01:51:49,387 --> 01:51:51,187
Speaker 4: minutes of a game, either you're trying to protect the

2143
01:51:51,307 --> 01:51:54,587
Speaker 4: lead or you're trying to go out there and win games. Yeah,

2144
01:51:54,627 --> 01:51:59,507
Speaker 4: it's not easy, but you know, it's what I've had

2145
01:51:59,547 --> 01:52:02,667
Speaker 4: to do this season. You know, it's it's the job

2146
01:52:02,787 --> 01:52:06,747
Speaker 4: that Steve you know, has given me. And yeah, I'm

2147
01:52:06,787 --> 01:52:08,827
Speaker 4: happy to be you know, back in the starting or edit.

2148
01:52:09,027 --> 01:52:12,107
Speaker 4: But yeah, there is a big difference, to be honest.

2149
01:52:14,027 --> 01:52:16,787
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think that's it, doesn't it. People expect

2150
01:52:16,827 --> 01:52:19,107
Speaker 2: you to come on with fresh legs and immediately just

2151
01:52:19,267 --> 01:52:21,907
Speaker 2: change the game. But does it actually take a bit

2152
01:52:21,947 --> 01:52:24,187
Speaker 2: of time to get into the speed of the game

2153
01:52:24,267 --> 01:52:25,587
Speaker 2: once you arrive off the bench.

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01:52:26,987 --> 01:52:30,667
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, correct, Like you know, sometimes you come into

2155
01:52:30,747 --> 01:52:33,267
Speaker 4: games and you'll make one of the foot sprints and

2156
01:52:33,587 --> 01:52:37,307
Speaker 4: you know you're absolutely shattered, you know, because like you say,

2157
01:52:37,347 --> 01:52:39,427
Speaker 4: the games it's such as it's almost like a different

2158
01:52:39,507 --> 01:52:42,667
Speaker 4: type of fitness almost like well like you're using like

2159
01:52:42,787 --> 01:52:46,267
Speaker 4: anaerobic systems rather than your aerobic it's just go, go go.

2160
01:52:46,587 --> 01:52:49,427
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's, like I say, it is tough.

2161
01:52:49,907 --> 01:52:53,787
Speaker 2: Good explanation. So, Perth, you've already played them Monster season

2162
01:52:53,907 --> 01:52:57,107
Speaker 2: over there where they came from behind to beat you

2163
01:52:57,227 --> 01:52:59,427
Speaker 2: two to one. Do you talk about revenge? Is that

2164
01:52:59,587 --> 01:53:02,387
Speaker 2: part of the motivation at all? Or is it really okay?

2165
01:53:02,427 --> 01:53:04,387
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter who we're playing, We're just we just

2166
01:53:04,427 --> 01:53:05,227
Speaker 2: want to win each week.

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01:53:06,827 --> 01:53:08,547
Speaker 4: No, I think, you know, the gaff it does remind

2168
01:53:08,667 --> 01:53:13,307
Speaker 4: us we had a similar a similar kind of situation

2169
01:53:13,507 --> 01:53:17,147
Speaker 4: last year where we lost the way and then you know,

2170
01:53:17,227 --> 01:53:20,547
Speaker 4: we had to play them at home, So the gaff

2171
01:53:20,547 --> 01:53:22,947
Speaker 4: it does remind us that, you know, last time, you know,

2172
01:53:23,027 --> 01:53:25,867
Speaker 4: they stole points of us, so you know, we need

2173
01:53:25,907 --> 01:53:28,347
Speaker 4: to make sure, especially at home, that you know, we

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01:53:28,547 --> 01:53:32,027
Speaker 4: take the three points. So it's like any team that

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01:53:32,187 --> 01:53:35,147
Speaker 4: beats us. Really, the gaffer kind of reminds us, you know,

2176
01:53:35,267 --> 01:53:37,427
Speaker 4: before the game, you know that last time we played

2177
01:53:37,467 --> 01:53:39,187
Speaker 4: them this happened, so we need to make sure it

2178
01:53:39,267 --> 01:53:43,187
Speaker 4: doesn't happen again, you know, Steve, it's almost like a

2179
01:53:43,267 --> 01:53:46,107
Speaker 4: prize thing for Steve. He doesn't like to be beaaten,

2180
01:53:46,187 --> 01:53:49,147
Speaker 4: which no coach wants to be, but you know he does.

2181
01:53:49,427 --> 01:53:51,027
Speaker 4: He does remind us well quite often.

2182
01:53:51,587 --> 01:53:54,227
Speaker 2: And we learned this week that your captain Hiroki Saki

2183
01:53:54,307 --> 01:53:56,227
Speaker 2: a seat for another stunt on the sidelines with a

2184
01:53:56,227 --> 01:53:58,467
Speaker 2: bit of a niggling hamstring that he count seem to shake.

2185
01:53:59,267 --> 01:54:01,507
Speaker 2: How big a blow was it for you not to

2186
01:54:01,627 --> 01:54:02,347
Speaker 2: have him out there?

2187
01:54:04,187 --> 01:54:04,387
Speaker 8: Yeah?

2188
01:54:04,507 --> 01:54:07,987
Speaker 4: I think it's a massive loss for the team obviously.

2189
01:54:08,267 --> 01:54:12,307
Speaker 4: You know, Hierochi brings so much experience and you know,

2190
01:54:12,627 --> 01:54:17,027
Speaker 4: it's crazy it is his age. You know how well

2191
01:54:17,107 --> 01:54:21,547
Speaker 4: he performs and how explosive he still is on the field.

2192
01:54:21,627 --> 01:54:23,227
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's going to be a big loss. But

2193
01:54:23,827 --> 01:54:26,587
Speaker 4: you know, to be honest that every time that Hiroki's

2194
01:54:26,587 --> 01:54:28,747
Speaker 4: had a little bit of a nkel talent's come in

2195
01:54:28,827 --> 01:54:31,307
Speaker 4: and done an excellent job. You know, Kellen's played a

2196
01:54:31,307 --> 01:54:33,547
Speaker 4: lot of a lot of Bailey games, he's played the

2197
01:54:33,667 --> 01:54:36,787
Speaker 4: national team and you know, in my opinion, I think

2198
01:54:36,867 --> 01:54:39,147
Speaker 4: how it's done, you know, an exceptional job when he

2199
01:54:39,307 --> 01:54:41,307
Speaker 4: when he's had to come in and sell it.

2200
01:54:41,827 --> 01:54:43,907
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's that's true across the field as well.

2201
01:54:43,987 --> 01:54:46,227
Speaker 2: Isn't it, Because as you say, I mean Sam Cosgrove

2202
01:54:46,347 --> 01:54:48,747
Speaker 2: was suspended. You know, you just you just may do.

2203
01:54:48,867 --> 01:54:51,147
Speaker 2: Luivistrada's missed the last couple of games and you know

2204
01:54:51,267 --> 01:54:53,667
Speaker 2: Cam Howison stepped in there, Guy gos is playing well.

2205
01:54:54,027 --> 01:54:56,227
Speaker 2: It must feel like quite a cool squad, even though

2206
01:54:56,227 --> 01:54:58,307
Speaker 2: there's a lot of competition for places. But to know

2207
01:54:58,387 --> 01:55:00,387
Speaker 2: when you do lose important players that there is the

2208
01:55:00,467 --> 01:55:03,347
Speaker 2: depth to cover with, you know, the other guys who

2209
01:55:03,507 --> 01:55:04,947
Speaker 2: just you know, take the next step up.

2210
01:55:06,547 --> 01:55:10,427
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, exactly. It's funny. You know, times when I've

2211
01:55:10,467 --> 01:55:12,547
Speaker 4: sat on the bench and you know, I look at

2212
01:55:12,587 --> 01:55:15,107
Speaker 4: the five guys that are sitting next to me, you

2213
01:55:15,187 --> 01:55:17,467
Speaker 4: know either play for the national team or you know,

2214
01:55:17,587 --> 01:55:20,827
Speaker 4: could easy be playing in any other a league team.

2215
01:55:20,907 --> 01:55:24,507
Speaker 4: So you know it's you know, when you do the

2216
01:55:24,547 --> 01:55:27,587
Speaker 4: speech and their injuries, you know, the boys, you know

2217
01:55:27,707 --> 01:55:29,787
Speaker 4: that no one's ever worried because you know that the

2218
01:55:29,827 --> 01:55:31,707
Speaker 4: guy that's coming in is you know, going to be

2219
01:55:31,747 --> 01:55:35,987
Speaker 4: a very good player or yeah, as the top player.

2220
01:55:36,147 --> 01:55:39,107
Speaker 4: So yeah, you know, it's good. It's good. It's nice

2221
01:55:39,147 --> 01:55:41,507
Speaker 4: to be fair. Maybe some other teams, you know, don't

2222
01:55:41,547 --> 01:55:43,987
Speaker 4: have this luxury of having you know, two or three

2223
01:55:44,067 --> 01:55:45,907
Speaker 4: guys for every position they could come in and do

2224
01:55:46,787 --> 01:55:47,587
Speaker 4: an excellent job.

2225
01:55:48,707 --> 01:55:50,707
Speaker 2: Well, it's an exciting two months ahead. You put yourself

2226
01:55:50,707 --> 01:55:52,187
Speaker 2: in a great position to make another run at the

2227
01:55:52,187 --> 01:55:55,107
Speaker 2: Premier's Play. Congrats on the first goal last weekend, Logan.

2228
01:55:55,547 --> 01:55:57,587
Speaker 2: I'm positive it's going to lead to a flood of

2229
01:55:57,627 --> 01:55:59,667
Speaker 2: them from now for you. Thanks for chatting to us today.

2230
01:55:59,747 --> 01:56:01,467
Speaker 4: Man's funny.

2231
01:56:01,507 --> 01:56:03,587
Speaker 2: Thank you, No, thank you, Logan, Logan Rogerson out of

2232
01:56:03,627 --> 01:56:05,867
Speaker 2: Auckland f C. They take on Perth Glory this afternoon

2233
01:56:05,947 --> 01:56:08,547
Speaker 2: at Going Media Stadium eighteen to three. When we come

2234
01:56:08,627 --> 01:56:11,467
Speaker 2: back off to India, Mike Lane out of the Alternative

2235
01:56:11,507 --> 01:56:14,067
Speaker 2: Commentary Collective on the ground over there.

2236
01:56:14,147 --> 01:56:14,867
Speaker 5: What's it like?

2237
01:56:15,027 --> 01:56:16,307
Speaker 2: We'll find out when we come back.

2238
01:56:16,987 --> 01:56:20,907
Speaker 1: Kevin matters in Sport. It matters here Weekend Sport with

2239
01:56:21,147 --> 01:56:25,427
Speaker 1: Jason Paine and GJ. Gudnomes, New Zealand's most trusted home

2240
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Speaker 1: builder News Talks.

2241
01:56:26,547 --> 01:56:29,427
Speaker 2: There'd be fourteen away from three. Well, in an attempt

2242
01:56:29,467 --> 01:56:31,427
Speaker 2: to boost the ratings of the show, I've gone to

2243
01:56:31,507 --> 01:56:35,707
Speaker 2: the Alternative Commentary Collective, the head of the ACC Mike Lane,

2244
01:56:35,787 --> 01:56:40,507
Speaker 2: who has gone to India to watch the final remarkable dedication.

2245
01:56:40,827 --> 01:56:41,707
Speaker 2: When did you arrive.

2246
01:56:43,067 --> 01:56:47,147
Speaker 12: I actually arrived in Underbard at about twelve hours ago plenty,

2247
01:56:47,507 --> 01:56:51,547
Speaker 12: I must admit, given current geopolitical issues going on elsewhere

2248
01:56:51,587 --> 01:56:53,387
Speaker 12: in the world, it's been quite hard to get here

2249
01:56:53,547 --> 01:56:56,947
Speaker 12: given the two biggest kind of ports to go through

2250
01:56:56,987 --> 01:57:00,027
Speaker 12: as Doha in Dubai. So I had to get a

2251
01:57:00,347 --> 01:57:04,507
Speaker 12: little bit creative. Went through Singapore, Singapore, then over to India.

2252
01:57:04,667 --> 01:57:08,027
Speaker 12: Got their eventually, but a little bit weary. But it's

2253
01:57:08,187 --> 01:57:10,347
Speaker 12: it's final, say mate, it's all go here. They're pretty

2254
01:57:10,347 --> 01:57:12,867
Speaker 12: pumped here, I can tell you that. And one hundred

2255
01:57:12,867 --> 01:57:15,107
Speaker 12: and thirty thousand people are going to be rammed into

2256
01:57:15,147 --> 01:57:17,307
Speaker 12: the stadium. I actually don't know what to expect, to

2257
01:57:17,347 --> 01:57:21,067
Speaker 12: be honest, that is one massive humanity.

2258
01:57:21,187 --> 01:57:24,707
Speaker 2: That absolutely is. It's an enormous venue and as you say,

2259
01:57:25,187 --> 01:57:27,827
Speaker 2: ninety nine point nine of them are going to be

2260
01:57:27,867 --> 01:57:28,387
Speaker 2: wanting India.

2261
01:57:28,467 --> 01:57:29,627
Speaker 22: Do you have you got it?

2262
01:57:29,747 --> 01:57:31,507
Speaker 2: Have you got a ticket or at least a media

2263
01:57:31,667 --> 01:57:32,707
Speaker 2: pass of some sort.

2264
01:57:34,427 --> 01:57:37,467
Speaker 12: Look, I've left everything very late, pony, I must My

2265
01:57:37,587 --> 01:57:40,067
Speaker 12: visa came through an hour before I got on the plane,

2266
01:57:41,147 --> 01:57:42,987
Speaker 12: so that was that was cutting it fine.

2267
01:57:43,027 --> 01:57:43,907
Speaker 5: Managed to get a ticket.

2268
01:57:44,547 --> 01:57:45,907
Speaker 12: I did manage to get to take get no media

2269
01:57:45,947 --> 01:57:48,707
Speaker 12: pass though, I mean myself in the ICC, I've got

2270
01:57:48,747 --> 01:57:49,987
Speaker 12: a bit of history, pony.

2271
01:57:50,027 --> 01:57:50,307
Speaker 7: I don't know.

2272
01:57:50,307 --> 01:57:52,467
Speaker 12: I won't go into it now, but I don't imagine

2273
01:57:52,507 --> 01:57:55,427
Speaker 12: they'll be giving me an acreditation anytime soon. So I'm

2274
01:57:55,507 --> 01:57:58,947
Speaker 12: just going I'm just going in with the with the punters. Jeez,

2275
01:57:59,027 --> 01:58:00,827
Speaker 12: I don't I actually don't, Like I said, I don't

2276
01:58:00,827 --> 01:58:03,387
Speaker 12: know what to expect. This is the biggest sports stadium

2277
01:58:03,587 --> 01:58:05,107
Speaker 12: in the world, which I just read. I was like,

2278
01:58:05,187 --> 01:58:07,707
Speaker 12: oh my god, So I don't know how early to

2279
01:58:07,747 --> 01:58:10,547
Speaker 12: get there. Ricky Martin's playing tonight in the closing ceremony,

2280
01:58:11,147 --> 01:58:12,947
Speaker 12: so that's something to look forward to forever.

2281
01:58:15,027 --> 01:58:19,307
Speaker 2: Sure, it'll be absolutely absolutely Can you even find you?

2282
01:58:19,427 --> 01:58:21,187
Speaker 2: Have you even find your seat at one hundred and

2283
01:58:21,227 --> 01:58:23,347
Speaker 2: thirty thousand seats stadium? I don't even know what gates

2284
01:58:23,387 --> 01:58:26,467
Speaker 2: are going, for goodness sake, I mean, all.

2285
01:58:26,427 --> 01:58:29,427
Speaker 12: These things are stretching me out, piny fat. And the

2286
01:58:29,547 --> 01:58:32,627
Speaker 12: fact that good is a dry state as well, that

2287
01:58:32,827 --> 01:58:34,867
Speaker 12: is stretching me out too, because any stress I can't

2288
01:58:34,907 --> 01:58:38,587
Speaker 12: relieve by just having my usual stress reliever. So that's

2289
01:58:38,627 --> 01:58:40,987
Speaker 12: going to be interesting as well. Have man's just smuggling

2290
01:58:41,027 --> 01:58:42,707
Speaker 12: a BoNT of gin. I just need now to find

2291
01:58:43,107 --> 01:58:45,507
Speaker 12: basically some tonic and some ice that's not going to

2292
01:58:45,587 --> 01:58:47,307
Speaker 12: make me go out the eye of a needle at

2293
01:58:47,307 --> 01:58:47,747
Speaker 12: some stage.

2294
01:58:47,827 --> 01:58:49,187
Speaker 4: So I don't know.

2295
01:58:49,387 --> 01:58:50,907
Speaker 12: I'll let you know. We're going to get back piny

2296
01:58:50,947 --> 01:58:53,387
Speaker 12: about what happens. But it's all new to me.

2297
01:58:54,027 --> 01:58:55,467
Speaker 2: How are you feeling about our chances?

2298
01:58:56,547 --> 01:59:00,787
Speaker 12: Oh, look, I reckon, it's good. We I'm quietly confident. Look,

2299
01:59:00,787 --> 01:59:02,667
Speaker 12: I've got a reputation a little bit, piny, I done.

2300
01:59:02,707 --> 01:59:05,707
Speaker 12: If you know, I've been to three Cricket World Cups

2301
01:59:05,707 --> 01:59:08,387
Speaker 12: and I've watched his and lose all three. So I

2302
01:59:08,507 --> 01:59:11,427
Speaker 12: need one. I need one here. And I think India

2303
01:59:11,627 --> 01:59:14,027
Speaker 12: is the team that we that we want to play

2304
01:59:14,147 --> 01:59:16,187
Speaker 12: because it's you didn't really want to World Cup until

2305
01:59:16,187 --> 01:59:19,987
Speaker 12: you've beaten India in the final and they don't have

2306
01:59:20,147 --> 01:59:22,907
Speaker 12: our measure. A lot of teams are intimidated by India.

2307
01:59:23,427 --> 01:59:25,347
Speaker 12: We seem to be the one one team that's not.

2308
01:59:25,547 --> 01:59:28,187
Speaker 12: We tip them up in a lot of competitions where

2309
01:59:28,227 --> 01:59:31,947
Speaker 12: their bogey team. Pull Forward from the VC podcast describes

2310
01:59:31,987 --> 01:59:34,947
Speaker 12: it quite well, where master is masters of the underdoggery.

2311
01:59:35,747 --> 01:59:38,227
Speaker 12: We go, we take that underdog tag and we use

2312
01:59:38,307 --> 01:59:41,387
Speaker 12: it to our best abilities. And I think if we

2313
01:59:41,627 --> 01:59:44,547
Speaker 12: win the toss bold first and then get them out

2314
01:59:44,547 --> 01:59:48,267
Speaker 12: for under two hundred, Game on, pony, absolutely, game on,

2315
01:59:48,707 --> 01:59:49,907
Speaker 12: game on, and if.

2316
01:59:49,987 --> 01:59:52,507
Speaker 2: If the stuck of yours was to be broken and

2317
01:59:53,027 --> 01:59:55,947
Speaker 2: the black Caps do when the t twenty Cricket World

2318
01:59:55,987 --> 01:59:58,427
Speaker 2: come sometime in the next fifteen sixteen hours or so,

2319
01:59:59,107 --> 02:00:01,347
Speaker 2: surely you'll be invited along as one of the very

2320
02:00:01,387 --> 02:00:04,587
Speaker 2: few kiwis on the ground there to celebrate with the team.

2321
02:00:05,467 --> 02:00:08,747
Speaker 12: Well, yeah, we'll hopefully I didn't cover myself in glory

2322
02:00:08,867 --> 02:00:11,627
Speaker 12: back in twenty fifteen in Melbourne at a team after function.

2323
02:00:11,667 --> 02:00:13,027
Speaker 12: I'll talk about it. You lad to find your cap.

2324
02:00:13,187 --> 02:00:16,147
Speaker 12: Talk about that on a here that involves them, That

2325
02:00:16,267 --> 02:00:18,427
Speaker 12: involves from Savory's been thrown around a room and one

2326
02:00:18,507 --> 02:00:20,867
Speaker 12: certain member of the New Zealand board got hat. Anyway,

2327
02:00:20,947 --> 02:00:23,547
Speaker 12: that's another story for another time. There is a few

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Speaker 12: key he's over here, bumped into a few on the plane,

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Speaker 12: so there's a there's a small contingent. When I say

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Speaker 12: small contingent, I don't think it'll break three figures. But

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Speaker 12: there's throughout the kind of kind of Southeast Asia and Singapore,

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Speaker 12: I saw loads of people kind of get desperately get

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Speaker 12: last minute visas and get over here, so hopefully we

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Speaker 12: can break that dark And interestingly, if we win this

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Speaker 12: T twenty World Cup, we're going to have basically our

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Speaker 12: women's and men's team will be T twenty World Cup

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Speaker 12: champions and potentially neither of them will be at the

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Speaker 12: Olympics next.

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Speaker 7: Year in La.

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Speaker 12: So think about that for a bit.

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Speaker 8: I am.

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Speaker 2: I am going to think about it. But also if

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Speaker 2: I look, if I had to seen any one of

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Speaker 2: our five and a half million over there to be

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Speaker 2: to get in the faces of the one point four

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Speaker 2: billion Indians who are going to be buying for our blood,

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Speaker 2: I would choose, well, I think I would choose you.

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Speaker 2: You cently me in my top three anyway.

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Speaker 12: Oh thanks pony. That means that means a lot. I'll

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Speaker 12: let you. I'll let you know if I perform up

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Speaker 12: to my abilities come Monday. But I'm definitely looking forward

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Speaker 12: to it, and I'm looking forward to catch up with

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Speaker 12: all the other TV's out here that have made the effort,

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Speaker 12: because it certainly is an effort. Even getting out of

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Speaker 12: here is proving quite an issue because ICC obviously sponsored

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Speaker 12: by Emirates and they all go via Dubai. Obviously that

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Speaker 12: corridor is pretty much shut off, so everyone's going back

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Speaker 12: by Singapore for getting getting home as that is shoe

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Speaker 12: I got here getting home might be in a shoe,

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Speaker 12: all right.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's good to know that the Weekend Sport and

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Speaker 2: ACC audience is intersect because there's a text here. Who

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Speaker 2: the hell let Glane go to the final man? He

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Speaker 2: is the worst luck ever. It's time to break the duck.

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Speaker 2: It's time to break the duck.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I am known as grim Lane to a few

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Speaker 12: of the ACC audience, but I need I need to

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Speaker 12: break it Piney. Any way I can do it is

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Speaker 12: by watching us barnstorm to victory in the early hours

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Speaker 12: of tomorrow morning and bringing home the Teacherny World Cup.

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Speaker 2: Love it, mate, love it. Thanks so much for joining us, Mike,

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Speaker 2: Mike Lane. There Alternative Commentary Collective. They're hosting a watch along.

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Speaker 2: Just search for them on socials you'll find it. It's

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Speaker 2: going to be an absolute cracker. Two thirty Tomorrow morning,

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Speaker 2: Black Ops the India T twenty Cricket World Cup Final

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Speaker 2: eight to three News Talks HEADB.

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Speaker 1: When there's Aline call, It's your call. Weekend Sport with

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Speaker 1: Jason Vine News Talks V five.

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Speaker 2: To three and that is pretty much US four Weekend

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Speaker 2: Sport for Today. The White Ferns have beaten Zimbabwe easily

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Speaker 2: by eight wickets in the second of their three One

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Speaker 2: Day internationals and toned an unassailable to no lead in

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Speaker 2: that series of good omen perhaps for what's going to

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Speaker 2: happen tomorrow morning at Metabaug. Great to get to Mike

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Speaker 2: Lane on the show Live from India two thirty tomorrow morning.

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Speaker 2: As I said earlier on in the show, I invite

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Speaker 2: you to set your alarm for Astall t I'm too

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Speaker 2: twenty two and get up and watch a better history

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Speaker 2: we hope being made over there in India. Tim Beverage

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Speaker 2: on your radio after three o'clock with the Weekend Collective.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for listening and huge thanks to Mark Kelly

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Speaker 2: for producing across the weekend. Brilliant to have you alongside, mate.

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Speaker 2: Thanks indeed, exit song today had to be a cricket song.

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Speaker 2: How's that? See tomorrow night on Sports Talk I'm the

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Speaker 2: black Caps. Get back for more from Weekends Sport with

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Speaker 2: Jason Fine.

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Speaker 1: Listen live to News Talks b Weekends from midday, or

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