1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: for New Zealand Business. Dan Thesimson, US correspondence with me. Now, 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: Hey Dan, Hey, Heather. What did you make of Kamala 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: Harris's speech? Did she give the voters what they need 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 1: to vote for her? 6 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 2: Oh? I think she basically gave something that looked very presidential, 7 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: you know in DC, like you just mentioned in the 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 2: World Wires, where former President Trump wanted to overturn the 9 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: will of the people, as she said, So, I mean 10 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 2: this is I mean, you know, to Paraphrasey Obamas, I 11 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 2: think she was trying to take the high road tonight, 12 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 2: and you know, she was looking at sounding and acting presidential. 13 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,959 Speaker 2: And remember, I mean this is fifty percent showbiz, right, 14 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 2: I mean, the setting, the crowd, the placement, the music. 15 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: It's a big production. It doesn't matter whether you're Kamala 16 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: Harris or Donald Trump. It's just I think she's a 17 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 2: little bit more on the message, whereas Donald Trump is 18 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: a little bit sort of you know, here and there 19 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: and hit and miss. 20 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: The thing is what she needs to do. It turns 21 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: out people in the States, voters in the States want 22 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: economic they want to talk about the economy, right, that's 23 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: the thing they care about. They care about the cost 24 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: of living crisis, They care about the economy. They do 25 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: not care as much about the threat that Trump poses 26 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: to democracy. So did she get them over the line 27 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: on that? 28 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: I think she did, But you know, I think anything 29 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: between now and the finish line a week from tonight, Heather, Honestly, 30 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 2: you're just talking to a wall, you know, these people 31 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 2: that they're talking about, these undecided voters. Honestly, with the 32 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 2: exception of maybe my eighteen year old son, who is 33 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 2: who does want to vote for one candidate or the other, 34 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 2: I haven't met an undecided voter. Everybody has made up 35 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 2: their mind right now at this point in time. So 36 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 2: I think you're preaching of the choir at this point. 37 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: You know, maybe there's a two or three percentage and 38 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 2: that could certainly swing an election in one of the 39 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: six or seven states at this point in time, but 40 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 2: I think everybody's mind is pretty well set. 41 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: Is I FK staying on some of the ballots? 42 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: Well, because basically the Supreme Court said he has to 43 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 2: in Wisconsin and Michigan, And then again, those are two 44 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: of the battleground states we keep talking about. So Kennedy 45 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: doesn't want to draw any votes away from former President 46 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 2: Trump A week from today. He endorsed Trump after stepping down, 47 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 2: and he argued that these deadlines that that he messed 48 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 2: are oun constitutional because they're different than the rules for 49 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 2: candidates running safe for Democrat or Republican, and of course 50 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: he was an independent. Lower courts rejected at say, hey, 51 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: you know what, you're too late. There's not enough time 52 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 2: to change the ballots. Voting is already underway, so he 53 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: may draw a miniscool, minischool amount of voters, but likely 54 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 2: those that do vote for him are those that might 55 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 2: vote for Donald Trump MM. 56 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: Or protest voting, right, I mean, yes, yes, you have 57 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: to be a little dumb not to realize he's off 58 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: the ballot. 59 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 2: Wouldn't you, Well you would, but I mean, you know, 60 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 2: there's always somebody that gets written in or somebody that 61 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 2: gets a half a percent of a vote out here. 62 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: I don't think you'll even get that that much though. 63 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: Okay, now you we say today has also decided it's 64 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: going to do the same thing as the Washington Post 65 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: and kill the endorsements. What's their reasoning for it? 66 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: Well, you know, this is really interesting because when you 67 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 2: think about it, these so called nonpartisan medias taking side 68 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: even on an editorial page. I mean, some people have 69 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 2: been questioning that for for some time. But what's interesting 70 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 2: is they're not going to publish any presidential endorsements between 71 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 2: now and November fifth. But what they're going to do 72 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 2: is allow their two hundred newspapers around the country to 73 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: endorse candidates at the state and local levels at their 74 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 2: own discretion. And this seems like a little bit of 75 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,839 Speaker 2: a gray area, I think, because if you're saying, well, 76 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 2: we're not doing this, but this is okay, I mean, 77 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 2: why draw the line right there? They're saying, well, you know, 78 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 2: we believe that that America's future has decided locally, one 79 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 2: race at a time, which to me seems kind of 80 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: like a strange response or maybe a non response in 81 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: this case, to do this it is quite Or you 82 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: could take the cynical road right which says nobody in 83 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: the media, which nobody in the media takes, and just 84 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 2: say they just don't want to get on the back 85 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 2: side of whoever wins this election. 86 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: Ah so, like the local races are not as important, 87 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: but you want to stay sweet with the president exactly. 88 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. 89 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is weird because if you're gonna have a 90 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: principlene to stick with it wholeheartedly. Hey Dan, thank you 91 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: very much, really appreciated. Dan Mitchison, you US correspondent. For 92 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to news 93 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: Talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the 94 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio