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Speaker 1: International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind

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Speaker 1: for New Zealand Business. Murray Olds out of Australia. Murray,

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Speaker 1: good afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Hi there, Ryans, good afternoon.

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Speaker 1: Now you've a former pilot who was convicted of murdering

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Speaker 1: an elderly woman. He's had the conviction overturned. What's happening here, Well, this.

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Speaker 2: Is a very celebrated case over here. Twenty twenty. There

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Speaker 2: were two There was a couple, apparently they were lovers

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Speaker 2: and they were camping together unbeknownst to their families. They

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Speaker 2: were camping up at the high country of Victoria, and

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Speaker 2: they're out in the books with their tent and their

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Speaker 2: campvan and so on, and along comes a guy called

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Speaker 2: Greg Lynn. One thing led to another and the other.

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Speaker 2: The two older people die, the man and the woman.

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Speaker 2: Now Greg Lynn tracked down by police and he went

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Speaker 2: to trial accused of murdering both of the people. He

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Speaker 2: was found guilty after a seven day jury deliberation. They

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Speaker 2: found him guilty of murdering the woman she was aged

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Speaker 2: seventy three, and not guilty. He was clear of murdering

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Speaker 2: her partner seventy four. Now he denied the charge. He

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Speaker 2: said both of the people died accidentally and he had panicked.

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Speaker 2: He'd panicked after their argument. They both died accidentally, and

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Speaker 2: he put the bodies into the back of his trailer,

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Speaker 2: hit their remains in the bush before returning later and

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Speaker 2: he burnt them. Now, you know, you'd think, okay, we've

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Speaker 2: got your bank to rights. But he went to the

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Speaker 2: Court of Appeal, which is the highest court in Victoria,

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Speaker 2: and the three justices agreed there were serious irregularities in

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Speaker 2: the trial that could not be remedied and in fact

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Speaker 2: the conduct of the trial, the way the prosecution conducted itself,

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Speaker 2: may have resulted in the very serious injustice. So those

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Speaker 2: that murder conviction has been quashed. And now he's back

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Speaker 2: and court in the new year. Yes, a stand trial again,

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Speaker 2: the new trial ordered but very celebrated case of Victoria.

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Speaker 2: More twists to.

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Speaker 1: Come now, it sounds very twisty now, the social media

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Speaker 1: history thing with the US. If you're a tourist and

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Speaker 1: you want to go over there, how are the Aussies

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Speaker 1: taking it?

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Speaker 2: Well, look it hasn't really come bursting of the surface yet,

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Speaker 2: but suffice to say more than a million Aussies went

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Speaker 2: to the United States last year, almost all of them

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Speaker 2: used this visa waiver program that allows US New Zealand,

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Speaker 2: Britain and a bunch of countries about forty countries to

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Speaker 2: go to the US for ninety days without needing a visa,

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Speaker 2: which is expensive and which is bloody time consuming. So

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Speaker 2: as I mean this is it's just burst on Australia overnight,

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Speaker 2: the same as New Zealand that okay, you have to

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Speaker 2: go back. We're my notes here, Okay, here we go.

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Speaker 2: Authorities in the United States have planning to collect very

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Speaker 2: detailed information, including five years of telephone numbers right, ten

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Speaker 2: years of email addresses. Here have you've written to? And

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Speaker 2: you know, twenty six IP addresses, metadata from photographs, biometrics,

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Speaker 2: information about your family members. I mean, it's just ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: It is. So I'm not sure that Australiers are going

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Speaker 2: to be that happy with this. You, given that there

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Speaker 2: are so many who go to the United States. With

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Speaker 2: the second Trump presidency, I should say it's well down,

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Speaker 2: about six percent down in terms of traveled to the

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Speaker 2: United States this year by Aussies. So look, it remains

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Speaker 2: to be seen. But what a pain in the backside

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Speaker 2: to try and do this just to go to the

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Speaker 2: land where you can get shot by a bloke who's eighteen.

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Speaker 2: You can buy a gun from Walmart, but he can't

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Speaker 2: get it be Italy twenty one.

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Speaker 3: That makes sense, doesn't Yeah, muzz I think that's the point,

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Speaker 3: and it's going to be too hard basket if you

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Speaker 3: have to go there your work conference or I don't know, funeral, fine,

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Speaker 3: But if you're tossing up between London, New York, London.

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Speaker 2: You know about Italy. I love Italy.

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Speaker 1: It is lovely had very quickly on social media, has

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Speaker 1: your band going right?

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Speaker 2: Twenty four hours in and a lot of young people

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Speaker 2: are saying, oh, elbow, get up my page, get out

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Speaker 2: that elbow. For his point saying, listen, this is a

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Speaker 2: very tough decision, but it's necessary, he gave us some

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Speaker 2: quotes this morning. Seventy percent of the kids have been

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Speaker 2: exposed to harmful content online. One and three say their

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Speaker 2: most recent experience of cyber bullying occurred on a social

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Speaker 2: media platform. Three in five kids ryan say they've been

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Speaker 2: groomed online. Alban Easy says this is the new rule.

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Speaker 2: No way we're going back, and ninety nine pairents are

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Speaker 2: saying you beauty.

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Speaker 1: Mark appreciate your time. Marie Olds are Australia correspondent. For

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