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Speaker 1: Crack down on those. You're taken a bit easy on

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Speaker 1: the old job seekers arrived. You will now have to

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Speaker 1: do a work check in after six months to assess

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Speaker 1: how that search is going. Started yesterday. It's part of

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Speaker 1: the wider welfare reset. The former Winsbass Christine ranking is

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Speaker 1: whether it's Christine morning.

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Speaker 2: To you, good morning, MIKEE.

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Speaker 1: Is there subtlety and nuance in this under the current system?

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Speaker 1: Of course, the market's tightening up. There are fewer jobs

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Speaker 1: about when you go in and go look, I know

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Speaker 1: I've been unemployed for six months, but here are my qualifications,

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Speaker 1: here's what I've applied to. There are no jobs. Does

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Speaker 1: that get taken into account?

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Speaker 2: I think there'll be some kind of balance from there.

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Speaker 2: But most of the jobs that we are really talking

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Speaker 2: about our entry level jobs, and wherever you go there

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Speaker 2: is still a huge need. Like you're not expected to

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Speaker 2: get the job that you've normally had. Your responsibility is

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Speaker 2: to get a job that pays you more than a benefit,

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Speaker 2: and that is still not a hard thing to do.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of need out there in certain areas,

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Speaker 2: so I don't think that's done to what you're not

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Speaker 2: supposed to get the job you had before. Unless that

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Speaker 2: is easily available to you. Your benefit is a privilege,

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Speaker 2: not a right, and I think that's been confused over

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Speaker 2: the years, particularly with the last government.

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Speaker 1: So how much do you reckon of one hundred and

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Speaker 1: sixty seventy eighty thousand people on job seeker, what percentage

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Speaker 1: roughly do you believe are just trying it on?

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Speaker 2: Oh, easily thirty or forty.

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Speaker 1: Percent their big numbers. Now that's tens of thousands of people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. And you've got to remember, you get

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Speaker 2: on a benefit and a lot of things happened to

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Speaker 2: you. You lose any confidence you ever had. You become complacent.

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Speaker 2: It's not an easy life. But a lot of people

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Speaker 2: do other things to prop up their benefit and we've

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Speaker 2: never faced that in New Zealand either. Well we have

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Speaker 2: in the past. You know, we had benefit crime squads

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Speaker 2: which were seen as a terrible thing but detected huge

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Speaker 2: one hundred million dollars a year when I was there

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Speaker 2: twenty years ago. Tip of the Iceberg, Tip of the iceberg?

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Speaker 1: Do you think this will actually work?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I do. I think the program's going to get

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Speaker 2: more and more comprehensive. I was a bit worried to

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Speaker 2: hear that it's a six month check. I think that's

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Speaker 2: giving them a long time to get off of benefit.

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Speaker 2: But I'm sure that that will tighten up. This government

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Speaker 2: and this minister are really serious about this, and anyone

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Speaker 2: who thinks it's going to go away and the pressure

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Speaker 2: is going to come off, I'm absolutely sure they're.

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Speaker 1: Role good stuff. Christine good to catch up. Appreciated Christine

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Speaker 1: Rank and former When's Boss might touch on this with

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Speaker 1: chrispher Luxan in a couple of moments. Make the contract

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Speaker 1: to subcontractor should have public liability? Insurance sounds like another

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Speaker 1: example of no accountability, let's make excuses. That's I think

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Speaker 1: why they're doing yet another investigation into it to single

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Speaker 1: out just who exactly they're going to ping for this.

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Speaker 1: But it looks like insurance is going to be covering

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Speaker 1: it off in some way, shape or form. The question

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Speaker 1: will be just how much of it seven twenty. For

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