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Speaker 1: This Nitball miss drags into another week. Nitball New Zealand

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Speaker 1: Dame nol In Taru are then headed apparently for some

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Speaker 1: sort of legal showdown if you can believe this after

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Speaker 1: a week of the Lord knows how many hours of meetings.

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Speaker 1: Evon Willering's with us on this eyvone morning.

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Speaker 2: Yes, good morning.

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Speaker 1: Can you explain, you know, from your experience? And I mean,

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Speaker 1: how is this thing dragged on as long as it has?

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Speaker 2: Oh exactly? You know. And it was interesting because after

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Speaker 2: sort of Grayson Wicky spoke out at the end of

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Speaker 2: the Tiny Jameson sy series, I thought, okay, this is

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Speaker 2: now going to force Netle MW Zealand to have some

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Speaker 2: honest conversations and basically work to resolve this whole issue.

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Speaker 2: And with a situation now who knows. I mean initially

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Speaker 2: we were at the Netble community was disappointed. I think

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Speaker 2: the Netborle community now is quite angry about how it's

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Speaker 2: all come out. And now Dave nol in Taru has

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Speaker 2: been suspended for a made of twenty twenty five and

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Speaker 2: it's gone from a high performance program and environment problem

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Speaker 2: and it's now become an employment issue. And you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm going why has this not been resolved? And I

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Speaker 2: think it started off reasonably small and it is really

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Speaker 2: fested and now it's become a major.

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Speaker 1: So does this sit with the leadership of netball it's

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Speaker 1: on them to do something.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's all parties involved, you know, and you alluded

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Speaker 2: to it. You know, they had mediation and it was

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Speaker 2: hours and hours, so you know you're looking at that

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Speaker 2: and going someone make a decision as to what's happening.

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Speaker 2: And for a while there I was sort of saying,

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Speaker 2: you know, all the wrong people are coming out in

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Speaker 2: the media rather than the actual people involved. And yes,

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Speaker 2: I know lawyers are involved and you've got to be careful,

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Speaker 2: but you know, finally, finally the Players Association have provided

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Speaker 2: a statement and I looked at them and and I

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Speaker 2: was critical of them and the fact that I was

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Speaker 2: saying they needed to look after all the players, not

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Speaker 2: just the ones that had had the grievances and had

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Speaker 2: taken that to net On New Zealand. But they're now

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Speaker 2: coming out saying it's an employment matter, so it actually

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Speaker 2: doesn't involve the Players Association. So yeah, I think that really, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's now been foled off into something else and it's

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Speaker 2: just sad that really all the talk is about Dame

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Speaker 2: do nol in ta Rua and the environment that's being created. Well,

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Speaker 2: I look at this and I'm going there's lots of

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Speaker 2: other people on board nowadays. It isn't just about a

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Speaker 2: coach and a manager. You know, they had three coaches,

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Speaker 2: they had a high performance manager, they had a manager

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Speaker 2: as well. Surely any potential toxic situation should have been

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Speaker 2: avoided or at least dealt with internally. And it's so

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Speaker 2: sad that this is now out in the public arena

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Speaker 2: and we're all having a say about it.

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Speaker 1: What would you do?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, yeah, yeah, I just think the wrong people

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Speaker 2: are now sitting in there having discussions. And I find

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Speaker 2: it very sad that it's got to the stage that

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Speaker 2: obviously it's totally about lawyer's involvement, and you know, it's

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Speaker 2: all very well, say, you know the players, you know

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Speaker 2: how they're going to carry on. No, no, they're still

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Speaker 2: going to step out of silver ferns the moment they

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Speaker 2: put the black dress on. That's their responsibility. But you

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Speaker 2: still look at that and you go, where is their accountability?

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Speaker 2: And you know, Dame Noling Tarua is sitting at home.

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Speaker 2: You know, basically weaving a garden and I'm going, you know,

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Speaker 2: somewhere along the line. It's just it's a situation whereby

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Speaker 2: who is responsible for what for what? And I don't

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Speaker 2: know at the moment. I think they didn't expect the

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Speaker 2: reaction from Dame Nolan Tarua that they got. I think

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Speaker 2: that they thought she was just going to toe the line,

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Speaker 2: make the adjustments and move on with it. But she

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Speaker 2: has strong beliefs in her style of coaching and you

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Speaker 2: know it's worked in the past, and suddenly she's been

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Speaker 2: questioned on it. But why just her? And I just

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Speaker 2: don't get it. And none of us actually know exactly

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Speaker 2: what the situation is behind the scenes, and we're all

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Speaker 2: speculating right now exactly.

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Speaker 1: Nice to talk to you, ifon Willering. So you got

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Speaker 1: two parts, haven't you got? Which camp are you in?

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Speaker 1: In the players camp or the coaches camp? And how

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Speaker 1: much player power is there and how much coaching power

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Speaker 1: is there? That's one part of the argument. The other

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Speaker 1: part of the argument is how come they can lead

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Speaker 1: an organization so abysmally and not make a decision and

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Speaker 1: allow us to drag on for more from the mic

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