1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Now to PAPA is going to start charging a thirty 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: five dollars entry fee for international tourists starting next month. 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: The National Museum says it's because rising energy costs and 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: insurance and staff costs all becoming a little bit expensive 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: and they think this will bring in an additional five 6 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: to ten million dollars per year. To PAPA spokesperson there's 7 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: Kate campaign cap he curly Heather, Kate, why is it 8 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: taking you so long? 9 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 2: Well, it's something we've thought about over the years quite 10 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: a few times, and I think maybe it's just an idea. 11 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: Thats time has come. You know, I think, like a 12 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 2: lot of places in New Zealand, we're facing rising costs 13 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: and we are probably really lucky in that we have 14 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 2: this option that we can take, which we think is 15 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 2: going to work for our international visitors, because we know 16 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 2: the first thing most of them ask when they rock 17 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 2: up to the door is where do I pay? 18 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: How did you decide on thirty five bucks? 19 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: We benchmarked around different places. You know, you've got forty 20 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:53,959 Speaker 2: two to go at the sky Tower, it's thirty two 21 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 2: at all from museum. It's twenty six to go into 22 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: the Zeelandia Sanctuary. Here in Wellington, So we looked around 23 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 2: at those benss and we took to our friends and 24 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 2: tourism industry and wanted to set it. It's something that 25 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 2: reflects the value that people get when they visit to Papa. 26 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: Our international visitors spend on average two hours at to Papa, 27 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: so you know they're investing a bit of time there, 28 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 2: and yeah, we think it'll be good value for money 29 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 2: for them. 30 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: I'm a little bit worried about your honesty box system 31 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: that you're running here. Are you sure that you should 32 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 1: be leaving it up to them to self identify as 33 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: tourists and then go buy a ticket. 34 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean our biggest priority was, you know, to 35 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 2: Papa's free for New Zealanders, always has been, always will be. 36 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 2: And our number one priority was to make this easy 37 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 2: for New Zealanders. So we wanted them to not have 38 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: any barriers when they arrived. So that was what drove 39 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 2: that decision. Of course, it's going to be a little 40 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: bit of an experiment and we'll see how that works. 41 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: But I think that you know, most people who travel 42 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: to New Zealand, they've come a long way, They've invested 43 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: a lot of time and money to get here and 44 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: most of them are looking for where they pay when 45 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 2: they arrived. So I'm sure a few backpackers will claim 46 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: their firm jobs of Ville where it's next through. 47 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: But listen to it. Have you ever been to Auckland Museum. 48 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, it was there just the other day. 49 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: Right, and they do this right. They've got the thing 50 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: where it's very clearly free for Auckland, a's donation from 51 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: anybody else in the country. And then the international guys 52 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: charge and they have a little ticketing booth, don't they. 53 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't know the last time you're 54 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 2: at to Papa where. Of course, our building is quite unique. 55 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 2: We've got high volumes of people coming through that ground 56 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 2: level and then we've got you know, it's quite a 57 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 2: small area, and then we've got stairs in a lift 58 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 2: leading up to that upstairs. So for us, it's a 59 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 2: combination of making it easy for the Kiwi visitors but 60 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 2: also the practicalities of our building. And look, if we 61 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 2: find it's not working, we can tweak it. You know. 62 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 2: Obviously we've never done it before, but this is where 63 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 2: we wanted to start off. Anyway. 64 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: Sometimes you guys have got some exhibitions where everybody has 65 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 1: to pay. Are you going to make the tour? So 66 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: if I have to go and see Monet and pay 67 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: twenty bucks, are you going to make them pay thirty 68 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: five bucks plus twenty bucks. 69 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 2: Yeah. So the entry charge for internationals is for entry 70 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 2: to the New and then there's other things they might 71 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 2: add on top of that. They might add a tour, 72 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 2: they might add a special exhibition, what have you. I 73 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 2: mean again, our international visitors when they're in New Zealand, 74 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 2: they usually hear for a good few weeks and they're 75 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 2: really pushing the boat out in a lot of cases. 76 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 2: So the advice we've had from other friends in the 77 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: sector is that international visitors are often looking to do more, 78 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: to spend more, to have that once in the lifetime experience. 79 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: Kate, thank you so much. I appreciate it. Kate camp 80 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: to Papa spokesperson. 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