1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's international realty, unparalleled reach 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: and results on. 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 2: The Huddle this evening, Tim Wilson from the Maxim Institute 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 2: and Alie Jones from red PR Kelder Kordawa get a. 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 2: Let's start off with the US and Ali. Donald Trump 6 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 2: has picked JD. Vance as his running mate and confirmed 7 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 2: as Republican candidate the Republican National Convention. Had you heard 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 2: of J. D. Varance before today? 9 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 3: No, I hadn't, and I didn't really want to know 10 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 3: much about him, but I felt that it would have 11 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 3: been remissive me not to at least done. You know, 12 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 3: I have done a little bit of research. I was frightened. 13 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 3: I was frightened before this news, and now I'm petrified. 14 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 3: This guy is really scary. I mean he not only 15 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 3: echoes Trump's position on a number of key issues. He's louder, 16 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,919 Speaker 3: he's harder, he's more revolting in his positions. Right, so 17 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 3: he doesn't want any supporter helps go to Ukraine. And women, well, 18 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 3: we all know where Trump sits on women. That came 19 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 3: out wrong and on the issue Vansas said that women 20 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,559 Speaker 3: should not have abortions even if the pregnancy has result 21 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 3: of in sayest or rape. I mean, this guy is 22 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 3: just revolting. And you know, it's interesting that he has 23 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 3: spoken so negatively of Trump and the past. And I 24 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 3: wonder if it's a way to say to people, Hey, 25 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 3: this guy didn't like me. Now he likes me, and 26 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 3: I really like him. This could work for you too, 27 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 3: I mean, is that part of the plan. 28 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: It's a very interesting character. So for those who aren't 29 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 2: aware of his background, he was a best selling author 30 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 2: who wrote Hillbilly Allergy. He's had some pretty high profile 31 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: corporate gigs over the years. Being a literary man. You 32 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 2: would have read He'llbilly Allergy, haven't You've done? 33 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 4: I do know that it was well reviewed by the 34 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 4: New York Times. She isn't typically accustomed to reviewing the 35 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 4: books written by Republicans agreeably. Hey look, Elly, I respect you. 36 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 4: I think you're amazing. But I could not disagree more 37 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 4: with you, particularly, you know, as the My birth mother 38 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 4: conceived me at fourteen, had me at four and I 39 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 4: have a very different view on abortion to you. Now. 40 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 4: I don't see how the circumstances of my conception were 41 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,839 Speaker 4: not my fault. I don't see why I should be ever, 42 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 4: blamed for it, and that's just sorry I had to 43 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 4: go there. I think jd Vance is a fascinating character. 44 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 4: He's had more lives than almost any of us. I mean, 45 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 4: what is a raised port in Appalachia. He was a 46 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 4: marine and Araq went to law school, a venture capitalist, 47 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 4: a senator, and yes, a well reviewed author. We need 48 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 4: politicians who had previous lives. He's had tons go for it. 49 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 2: My position term is that I think he certainly reinforces 50 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: the base. Right, there's no one who wasn't going to 51 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 2: vote for Donald Trump who, now seeing that he has 52 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 2: jd Vance as vice presidential pack, is now going to 53 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 2: be brought on to support Donald Trump. But the thing is, 54 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 2: he knows, he knows the Midwest, he knows the Rash Belt, 55 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: he knows the kind of people in the kind of 56 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: communities that are ultimately going to decide the election, the 57 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 2: likes of Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin where this R and C 58 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 2: is being held. So in a way, do you think 59 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 2: jd Vance's peck is just a just an opportunity to 60 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 2: kind of excite the base rather than expand it. 61 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 4: Tim, Yeah, I think yeah, I think I think you're 62 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 4: right there. I think also, but it does add a 63 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 4: deepening to whatever you might call Trump's you know, Trump's platforms, 64 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 4: and one of the things, you know, to his to 65 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 4: his change of heart on Trump. He despised Trump in 66 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 4: twenty sixteen. He called them cultural heroism, heroine, part of me, 67 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 4: cultural heroine America's Hitler, Yeah, yeah, exactly. His view was 68 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 4: that this populism doesn't have any policy base. But then 69 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 4: he saw what Trump did policy wise, and he said, 70 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 4: I changed my mind. And I admire people who changed 71 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 4: their minds when they've got the evidence. 72 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 3: Jacob, The issue here is, and look, I take Tim's 73 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 3: point about, you know, abortion, and that's going to be 74 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 3: a personal decision and position, and you know, I would 75 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 3: never force that on anyone, but this guy, both of 76 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 3: them are forcing this on women talking about the abortion issue, 77 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 3: and it's hugely polarizing. But what's frightening I think about 78 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 3: Varance especially, and I've looked at some video of him, 79 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 3: is that he's charismatic. He's articulate. You don't stick him 80 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 3: in the lunatic box as easily as you do Trump, 81 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 3: and I think that's what makes him really frightening. He 82 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 3: can write, he's well known, he appeals to that Ross belt, 83 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 3: and I think that and he's young, he's energetic, you know, 84 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 3: and I think that's why I'm finding it really frightening 85 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 3: that the sky is going to be there sort of 86 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 3: shadow shadowing and supporting Trump in his lunacy. 87 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 2: Tell you what, it's going to be an amazing couple 88 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 2: of days watching the events in Milwaukee. So they tend 89 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: to drip feed these things out. So it was day 90 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 2: one today. We'll expect Jadie Vance to make a big 91 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 2: speech in the next couple of days, and then of 92 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 2: course Donald Trump will be doing the same thing, and 93 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 2: you can only imagine what that's going to be like. 94 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 2: He says he's changed his speech from his original plans 95 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 2: and the wake of that attempt at assassination. But yeah, 96 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: pretty remarkable to see his entrance today in Milwaukee. We'll 97 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 2: be back with the Huddle Allie Jones and Tim Wilson 98 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 2: in a couple of minutes. 99 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southerby's International Realty Exceptional Marketing 100 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: for every Property. 101 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,119 Speaker 2: Really sad news today. Norm hewittt, former All Black Dancing 102 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 2: with the Stars champion public health advocate, has died at 103 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 2: the age of fifty five. Tim I know you're not 104 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 2: a big Rugby fan, but you must have been the 105 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 2: Dancing Bit of Stars fan, weren't you. 106 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 4: Oh well, you know, I waited for the call. It 107 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 4: never came, unfortunately. That's okay, and it's said. And when 108 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 4: I heard when I heard the age, I mean fifty five, 109 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 4: I'm fifty eight, and that just it just seems so 110 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 4: so very young. But what I admired about him, and 111 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 4: it was great to hear Laurie Mains throwing that in 112 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 4: the mix as well, was his character in the sense that, 113 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 4: you know, what is it He broke into a hotel 114 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 4: room after getting on the rastaz that wasn't his own, 115 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 4: and he sort of reformed to himself. And he had 116 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 4: a great, great mentor to young men who need mentoring, 117 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 4: as saying, your current circumstances don't define your future, and 118 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,119 Speaker 4: that's a message people need to hear, particularly young guys. 119 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, Allie, how do you remember norm Heart? 120 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? Look, I've got nothing to add to that, because 121 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 3: I think Tim summed it up absolutely beautifully. I didn't 122 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 3: follow the Rugby closely. I certainly didn't follow Dancing with 123 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 3: the Stars either, but didn't you know that age? 124 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 2: It was huge that was the first season. Oh no, 125 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 2: it was all go. 126 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: That was it. 127 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 2: It was all go. There was twenty years ago. 128 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: Years. 129 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll tell you what, Ellie, Ellie Jack Coloney of 130 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 4: the videotapes, he's still got The thing is. 131 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 2: He was born was well, no, the thing is the 132 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,799 Speaker 2: norm here because he was a big early rugby player. 133 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 2: But he was so kind of dainty and nimble, you know, 134 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 2: and he had a really good sense of balance. So 135 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 2: it was really amazing. 136 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, I might try and look at it 137 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 3: a little bit later at the point that Tim made 138 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 3: about him being fifty five. You know, I'm fifty six 139 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 3: or fifty seven. I can never work it out. And 140 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 3: it's you know, it's the same for me too. You go, 141 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 3: oh my goddad is so young. But condola to the family, 142 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 3: I mean, moting your own helpful Yeah. 143 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: It really is. 144 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 3: Ellie. 145 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 2: What do you think about having warning sides for speed cameras. 146 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 3: I think it's brilliant. I do like to have the 147 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 3: opportunity to not get a big fat ticket. I mean 148 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 3: who doesn't, right, So there is not one speed camera 149 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 3: in christ such well there wasn't six months ago, not 150 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 3: a single one, right, So this is very new to us, 151 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 3: and so I'm very happy to be driving along and 152 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 3: see a little sign that goes hi. You might be 153 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 3: going a little fast, but you know, slow down because 154 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 3: then you won't get a ticket or you know, I'm 155 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,239 Speaker 3: very happy to get a warning. And if people slow 156 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 3: down and there's not actually a speed camera there, then 157 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 3: that's working. I don't have a problem with it, Jack Tim. 158 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, look, I liked your comments just before the news, 159 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 4: which is the issue here at safety. Those signs will 160 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 4: produce that. I mean, look, can we extend us a 161 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 4: little bit warning signs without the speed cameras, move them around, 162 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 4: keep people just a little on the back floot think 163 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 4: I'm all for it. Yeah. 164 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 2: Well, another situation we've had on the text is that 165 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 2: if police really need to make a few extra bucks 166 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 2: just to plump up the government coffers or the state 167 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 2: coffers at the moment, maybe they could have the mobile 168 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: speed cameras just past the permanent speed cameras. So if 169 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 2: anyone does go through, slows down just in time for 170 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 2: the permanent camera gets through, speeds up again, bam, they'll 171 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 2: be pinged. So that way you get them both ways. 172 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time, guys, Allie Jones 173 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 2: from red PR, Tim Wilson from the Maximum Institute, Our 174 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 2: huddle this evening. 175 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen live to 176 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 177 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:38,719 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio