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Speaker 1: You're listening to a podcast from news Talk zed be

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Speaker 2: To what makes the Perfect pie? And are we oversaucing

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Speaker 2: Everything in this country? Well Wellington Trady turned influencer Cosmos.

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Speaker 2: He has built a following reviewing mint and cheese pies,

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Speaker 2: even eating one daily as he searches for the best

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand. He shared his simple rules for the

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Speaker 2: perfect pie, and Cosmos joins us, Now get a mates.

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Speaker 3: Hey, how are you going?

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Speaker 4: So what are those rules? Cosmo? Just run us through

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Speaker 4: them quickly.

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Speaker 5: Oh the rules, so you don't eat your pie with

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Speaker 5: a knife and fork and no tomato sauce.

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Speaker 4: So talk us through the tomato sauce because people just

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Speaker 4: absolutely cover pies with tomato sauce. To go into the survey,

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Speaker 4: you squeeze one of those little ones on their Why

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Speaker 4: no tomato sauce?

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Speaker 5: Well, for good pie, you don't need tomato sauce. But

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Speaker 5: that's why they probably put tomato sauce on a service

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Speaker 5: station pie.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, the sins because exactly because.

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Speaker 4: Pies in New Zealand used to be pretty rubbish, but

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Speaker 4: they've got so much better, what with you know, the

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Speaker 4: Supreme Pie Awards and stuff. So is it now just

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Speaker 4: you know, it was there to cover the crimes of

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Speaker 4: a servo pie, but now it's just disrespecting the art.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so, well that's what that's my rules anyways.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so mate, have you come across or at this stage?

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Speaker 2: And I know you're on a bit of a journey

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Speaker 2: up and down the country, but at this stage, what

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Speaker 2: is the single best mince and cheese pie you've had?

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Speaker 5: Well, the best one so far is Daily Bread Wife

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Speaker 5: or two. It's at the bottom of Winoi Hill before

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Speaker 5: you go over the Weinui Hill.

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Speaker 2: And what what made that a winner?

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Speaker 5: It's just the pastry, the mince and gravy ratio and

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Speaker 5: the amounts of cheese, right, And everyone knows I like

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Speaker 5: my cheese and the pies. So lots of bakeries are

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Speaker 5: doing mince and double cheese now, so it's trending.

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Speaker 4: So but you're you're speaking of the paste. You're a

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Speaker 4: fan of a soggy bottom, is that right?

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Speaker 3: No? Not soggy, but like softer bottom? Not so yeah,

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Speaker 3: not The top.

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Speaker 5: Needs to be nice and crisp and the bottom nice

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Speaker 5: soft bottom, I reckon.

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Speaker 2: And would you say, because you've been obviously up and

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Speaker 2: down the country, South Island, North Island. If you had

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Speaker 2: to pick an island, who does it best? Surely it's

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Speaker 2: a South Island No.

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Speaker 3: Way, no way.

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Speaker 5: Well I haven't tried enough pies in the South Island yet, right,

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Speaker 5: but I am going to head down there eventually, but

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Speaker 5: definitely North Island so far.

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Speaker 4: What are your feelings on pies that you know? You know,

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Speaker 4: innovative pies, you know, when you've got blue cheese, kumita,

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Speaker 4: you've got chicken canon beer. You know, you see a

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Speaker 4: pie and it's got a list of ten different ingredients.

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Speaker 4: Are you a fan of that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I like exotic pies. Saying different you know, of course,

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Speaker 5: there's nothing wrong with it.

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Speaker 2: We are speaking to Cosmos. He goes by his name online,

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Speaker 2: but his real name is Petree Aspas Talaka. So what

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Speaker 2: would you say is the most overrated pie you've had?

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Speaker 3: Overrated pie? Oh, that's a hard one. Overrated pie to

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Speaker 3: be honest. I was in.

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Speaker 5: Para Umu the other day and Pram and those pies

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Speaker 5: are overrated. Lots of people told me to go try them,

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Speaker 5: and yeah, they didn't hit the spot.

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Speaker 4: Just to take you back to another point on the

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Speaker 4: knife and fork. Why are you opposed to the knife

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Speaker 4: and fork with the with the pie, Cosmos, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of like eating a pizza with a knife

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Speaker 3: and fork. It just doesn't feel right eat it with

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Speaker 3: your hands, all right?

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Speaker 4: What about the family steak pie that you get, like

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Speaker 4: one of those. There are those big round pies that

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Speaker 4: you get out of there that you can knife and

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Speaker 4: fork those, can't you?

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Speaker 3: I guess so, yeah, I guess you have to on those.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what about And this is something I do often,

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Speaker 2: Cosmos my pies, I take off the top of the

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Speaker 2: pie the pastry, and then I leave that right to

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Speaker 2: the end. So I just I take off the top,

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Speaker 2: cool it down because I like it kind of lukewarm.

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Speaker 2: I don't like it too hot, and then start holing

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Speaker 2: it down and then just a little bit of sauce

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Speaker 2: right on the top of the pastry. And that's my

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Speaker 2: kind of dessert right at the end.

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Speaker 4: That's gross.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I think that's great too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I need some help. Yeah, I mean the beauty

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Speaker 4: of the pie is you can buy it, and you know,

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Speaker 4: that's that's why the sandwich was invented as well, so

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Speaker 4: you can just operate.

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Speaker 3: You don't take the top of it's self contained.

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Speaker 2: The engineering has already been done for me. You don't.

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Speaker 4: You don't need to do an autopsy on your pie.

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Speaker 4: Just shove it and you go all right.

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Speaker 5: Reminded me of my friend he used to eat the

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Speaker 5: He used to buy a burger, say from McDonald's. He

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Speaker 5: would eat the top one first, then I would eat

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Speaker 5: the petty and cheese, and then you would eat the

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Speaker 5: bottom button.

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Speaker 3: And I was like, I thought that was so weird.

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Speaker 2: I like your mate, Yeah, we good on.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I'm.

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Speaker 4: No fan of people that do worktopsies on their food.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Cosmos, thank you very much. Even a chat with us, mate,

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Speaker 2: and go well, you obviously got a heck of a

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Speaker 2: following online, so all the best with your journey.

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Speaker 3: And we'll catch us. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, when you find the ultimate pie in New Zealand,

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Speaker 2: we'll catch up again soon.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. That sounds good, perfect, Go well.

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Speaker 2: That is Cosmos. That's the name that he goes by online.

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Speaker 2: Real name Petre Posta locus In. Obviously a pie influencer.

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