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Speaker 1: The Supreme Court has today quashed the convictions of David

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Speaker 1: Talmaheri for murdering two Swedish tourists, after he's fought against

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Speaker 1: his convictions for decades. The Supreme Court has found it

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Speaker 1: was wrong of the Court of Appeal a couple of

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Speaker 1: years ago to find him guilty. New Zealand Herald reporter

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Speaker 1: David Fisher has followed the case for years and joins

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Speaker 1: us now High Fish.

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Speaker 2: Hi here, how are you.

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Speaker 1: Doing very well? Thank you? Were you surprised by this?

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Speaker 2: No, I'm surprised it's taken so long. Actually, the key

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Speaker 2: points that the Supreme Court focused on have been a

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Speaker 2: point of focus for about thirty years.

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Speaker 1: So this ultimately comes down to the jail house snitch,

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Speaker 1: doesn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, largely it is the jail house snitch. There's also

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Speaker 2: the issues that were thrown up when varn Holtin's body

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Speaker 2: was found, and that very much threw out the crowd

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Speaker 2: narrative of what was almost an entirely circumstantial case.

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Speaker 1: Is this the original claim from Conchie Harris the snitch

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Speaker 1: that the body was dumped in the water, in the

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Speaker 1: sea somewhere and in the and it was actually found

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Speaker 1: somewhere in the corimandal.

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Speaker 2: There were a number of number of things that Roberto

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Speaker 2: Conchi Harris had talked about, and certainly the location was

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Speaker 2: one of those things. He had talked about the body

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Speaker 2: being dumped in the sea or the body's being dumped

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Speaker 2: in the sea, but he had also given evidence about

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Speaker 2: how Vun Hoggen was killed and when about Hogman's body

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Speaker 2: was found. It was clearly a different end that he

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Speaker 2: had suffered. And yeah, so there were a number of

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Speaker 2: issues with his evidence and issues I think which were

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Speaker 2: fairly known since well he told Paul Holmes about it

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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety six.

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Speaker 1: Do you think they're going to go for another trial

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Speaker 1: because the Supreme Court says there should be a retrial,

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Speaker 1: but is up to the Crown.

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Speaker 2: Look, that's a real toss of the coin one here,

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Speaker 2: because there have been cases where the crowd has been

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Speaker 2: in this position and decided not to pursue it, and

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Speaker 2: then cases such as David Bain where the crowd did

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Speaker 2: pursue it. The case has taken some serious, serious knocks

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Speaker 2: over the years, and it sounds it sounds like from

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Speaker 2: Tommy Heady's point of view, that he has been gathering

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Speaker 2: information which would make his defense even stronger it would be.

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Speaker 2: I would think police would need to have a few

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Speaker 2: cards up their sleeve, so to speak, before they were

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Speaker 2: bold enough to take this one on.

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Speaker 1: Why is David tomahead and as lawyer not talking today

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Speaker 1: because up to now they've been pretty vocal.

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Speaker 2: Well, they've got to a point now where he is

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Speaker 2: defendant before the court or conceivably could be a defendant

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Speaker 2: before the court. I would imagine that now that he's

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Speaker 2: got to a position that he's been trying to get

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Speaker 2: to for well thirty five years, he wouldn't want to

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Speaker 2: upset the apple cut.

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Speaker 1: Does this have to go to retrial in order for

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Speaker 1: him to get compo or can he get compo? Just

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Speaker 1: as it is right.

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Speaker 2: Now, there is capacity for compensation to be granted. It

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Speaker 2: doesn't need to go back through a full trial, and

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Speaker 2: there's probably well, there are some reasonable questions to be

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Speaker 2: asked about whether or not it's a case that would

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Speaker 2: even sustain a full trial, such as the damage that

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Speaker 2: has been done to it over the years, But compensation,

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Speaker 2: if police aren't going to go again, I would think

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Speaker 2: compensation would be a pretty hard argument to beat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, David, thank you very much appreciated. David Fisher Senior

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Speaker 1: Herald reporter.

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