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Speaker 1: The New Zealand UBA drivers have won their cases. You

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Speaker 1: will aware on this appeals court. The appeals court agrees

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Speaker 1: with the employment court, which is where it started, that

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Speaker 1: Uber drivers should be employees, not contractors. Now, other courts

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Speaker 1: in other countries have broadly come down on the same lines,

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Speaker 1: but as I told you last week, not in California.

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Speaker 1: In California are the court their highest court there agreed

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Speaker 1: with the people, and the people had voted in a

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Speaker 1: proper proposition that drivers should be contractors because that's what

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Speaker 1: drivers signed up to. So you can ask the question,

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Speaker 1: I suppose, is democracy right as it in California? Or

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Speaker 1: is the court right asn't here? Now the court, he

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Speaker 1: has said, the critical point is we think that while

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Speaker 1: the driver is logged into the driver app, that driver

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Speaker 1: has no opportunity to establish any business goodwill of their own.

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Speaker 1: Now I guess that's true. I guess, but didn't make

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Speaker 1: any sense to me. In a pure gig model, you

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Speaker 1: get to choose right you work, you know work. It's

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Speaker 1: about flexibility the moment you're an employee, Yes, you get leave,

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Speaker 1: but you also lose some control. Despite what the court

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Speaker 1: and the four drivers think, some people actually like flexibility

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Speaker 1: in freedom drivers. The court said couldn't bargain with Uber,

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Speaker 1: and that is of course correct, but that's the whole

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Speaker 1: point of a gig deal. The gig deal is predicated

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Speaker 1: on the idea that if the deal is so bad,

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Speaker 1: no one's going to work for them. And the counter

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Speaker 1: to the no bargain and all the other lack of

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Speaker 1: overarching rules and regulations. Is it simple to take it

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Speaker 1: or leave it. That's what it is. It's a take

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Speaker 1: it or leave it proposition. If you find it too egregious,

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Speaker 1: don't take it. If you want a union and industrial

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Speaker 1: action and pay agreements and time and liew and stop

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Speaker 1: work meetings, be a teacher or a nurse. The tricky part, now,

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Speaker 1: apart from the fact Uber will take it to the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court, which they should, is that the government are

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Speaker 1: reviewing this workplace relations as we mentioned with Brook a

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Speaker 1: Marma ago, and given it's driven by Act I, suspect

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Speaker 1: it will be looking to free things up a bit.

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Speaker 1: And this court case and its decision may well be

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Speaker 1: a victim of what eventually gets past is law. No

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Speaker 1: we don't I get it. No, we don't want seven

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Speaker 1: year olds going down minds or up chimneys, hence we

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Speaker 1: need protections. But it's not Victorian England, it's New Zealand

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. And if you choose to be your

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Speaker 1: own person, all power to you, and the courts can

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