1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,453 Speaker 1: from News Talks. 3 00:00:11,453 --> 00:00:16,493 Speaker 2: That'd be Kevin Milne is here with us this Saturday. Hey, Kevin, 4 00:00:17,293 --> 00:00:17,813 Speaker 2: how are you? 5 00:00:18,093 --> 00:00:21,693 Speaker 3: I'd be interested in the daily sleep score at least 6 00:00:21,693 --> 00:00:24,453 Speaker 3: for a few weeks, because I think that there's a 7 00:00:24,533 --> 00:00:27,893 Speaker 3: difference between how much sleep we think we've had in 8 00:00:27,933 --> 00:00:30,733 Speaker 3: the night and how much we actually get. Of course, 9 00:00:30,773 --> 00:00:33,333 Speaker 3: it's hell hard to tell that unless you've got a 10 00:00:33,373 --> 00:00:36,573 Speaker 3: reliable phone that can tell you. My wife's got one, 11 00:00:36,653 --> 00:00:39,733 Speaker 3: and she promises to tell me what it is, but 12 00:00:39,813 --> 00:00:41,453 Speaker 3: she sets it for herself all the time. 13 00:00:41,573 --> 00:00:44,573 Speaker 2: Okay, do you do that? Do you do the activity 14 00:00:44,653 --> 00:00:47,613 Speaker 2: rings or you know that step count or anything like that? 15 00:00:47,973 --> 00:00:50,533 Speaker 3: No, I no, I don't do any of those things. 16 00:00:50,733 --> 00:00:54,933 Speaker 3: I'm just fascinated by sleep really because sometimes I think 17 00:00:55,053 --> 00:00:58,333 Speaker 3: I've gone almost right through the night in his sleep, Yeah, 18 00:00:58,373 --> 00:01:01,613 Speaker 3: but then something will crop up, little c you were 19 00:01:01,653 --> 00:01:04,293 Speaker 3: storing last night, and I'm thinking, well, I can have been, 20 00:01:04,533 --> 00:01:08,173 Speaker 3: but I was. So That's what I've been said in 21 00:01:08,213 --> 00:01:11,013 Speaker 3: the sleep score for how much sleep do are we 22 00:01:11,053 --> 00:01:12,693 Speaker 3: actually getting without realizing it? 23 00:01:13,053 --> 00:01:16,613 Speaker 2: There are also some part of those monitors and apps 24 00:01:16,613 --> 00:01:18,973 Speaker 2: and things I think you can get a snore score, Kevin, 25 00:01:19,013 --> 00:01:20,333 Speaker 2: So that could be an option for you as well. 26 00:01:20,373 --> 00:01:22,013 Speaker 2: Maybe that's a way to start with Linda instead of 27 00:01:22,053 --> 00:01:24,013 Speaker 2: saying just a sleep get a snore score as well. 28 00:01:24,293 --> 00:01:26,573 Speaker 2: But anyway, you want to raise a tricky issue about 29 00:01:26,613 --> 00:01:27,813 Speaker 2: ambulances this morning. 30 00:01:28,013 --> 00:01:30,573 Speaker 3: Yeah, we know you don't we to call an ambulance 31 00:01:30,653 --> 00:01:35,053 Speaker 3: straight away with stroke, a heart attack or meningitas if 32 00:01:35,093 --> 00:01:38,613 Speaker 3: we pick that up, But what about other stuff? A 33 00:01:38,653 --> 00:01:42,973 Speaker 3: little drama On Wednesday night, I got into bed, tried sleeping, 34 00:01:43,293 --> 00:01:45,213 Speaker 3: then tried to get up for a glass of water. 35 00:01:45,573 --> 00:01:48,373 Speaker 3: Couldn't When I tried to lift my head off the pillow, 36 00:01:48,773 --> 00:01:54,173 Speaker 3: excruciating pain in my neck. Tried again again shut nerve 37 00:01:54,253 --> 00:01:57,413 Speaker 3: pain in my neck. My yelps woke Linda up, who 38 00:01:57,453 --> 00:02:00,013 Speaker 3: saw that I was in distress. I told her the problem. 39 00:02:00,213 --> 00:02:02,253 Speaker 3: She tried to help me out of bed, but it 40 00:02:02,293 --> 00:02:05,653 Speaker 3: was too painful. I couldn't get out. Linda checks her 41 00:02:05,653 --> 00:02:09,333 Speaker 3: phone under nerve pain and neck. Turn out it could 42 00:02:09,413 --> 00:02:16,653 Speaker 3: be arthritis, herniated disc, stiff neck, even meningosihs Her thoughts, 43 00:02:16,933 --> 00:02:19,293 Speaker 3: if you can't stand up in your in real pain, 44 00:02:19,613 --> 00:02:23,973 Speaker 3: we'd better call an ambulance. No, no, I said, no, No, 45 00:02:24,133 --> 00:02:27,653 Speaker 3: let's wait, it might come right, but it didn't, and 46 00:02:27,733 --> 00:02:31,453 Speaker 3: Linda suggests we call an ambulance immediately rather than wait, 47 00:02:31,773 --> 00:02:35,453 Speaker 3: which is always the advice. I protest. There'd be a 48 00:02:35,493 --> 00:02:37,893 Speaker 3: hoo ha, the neighbors would be thinking I'd had a 49 00:02:37,933 --> 00:02:40,733 Speaker 3: heart attack, and if I'm tagging into the hospital, we're 50 00:02:40,773 --> 00:02:44,253 Speaker 3: in for a huge disruption to our lives for all 51 00:02:44,253 --> 00:02:48,333 Speaker 3: the wrong reasons. I convinced Linda not to call an 52 00:02:48,373 --> 00:02:53,693 Speaker 3: ambulance straight away. After a painful, sleepless night, in the morning, 53 00:02:53,733 --> 00:02:56,493 Speaker 3: I managed to get on my feet and called my 54 00:02:56,653 --> 00:02:59,613 Speaker 3: health center. I told the nurse and a symptoms. She 55 00:02:59,733 --> 00:03:04,653 Speaker 3: told me I likely had a stiff neck, but take 56 00:03:04,733 --> 00:03:09,293 Speaker 3: some canadle, do some stretchers and it'll come right, which 57 00:03:09,493 --> 00:03:13,413 Speaker 3: it did, and once again I was left to consider 58 00:03:13,493 --> 00:03:17,853 Speaker 3: that advice. If you're worried there's something serious, don't back around. 59 00:03:18,133 --> 00:03:22,093 Speaker 3: Call an ambulance straight away. Had I done that, I'd 60 00:03:22,133 --> 00:03:25,173 Speaker 3: have been fronting up at the emergency department in Wellington 61 00:03:25,533 --> 00:03:30,453 Speaker 3: with nothing more than a stiff neck. Embarrassing. It's a 62 00:03:30,533 --> 00:03:34,733 Speaker 3: really tricky thing that jack knowing when or not to 63 00:03:34,853 --> 00:03:35,773 Speaker 3: call an ambulance. 64 00:03:36,853 --> 00:03:41,213 Speaker 2: Yes, and I think if there's any sintilla of a 65 00:03:41,333 --> 00:03:44,893 Speaker 2: chance that you might be wrong. Your best to err 66 00:03:44,933 --> 00:03:47,413 Speaker 2: on the side of calling it, aren't you, like, if 67 00:03:48,733 --> 00:03:51,093 Speaker 2: this should be all right? But if they just think, oh, 68 00:03:51,613 --> 00:03:54,133 Speaker 2: maybe not, then you really want to be making that call. 69 00:03:55,013 --> 00:03:58,013 Speaker 3: Yes, I guess so, you know. But if you're wrong 70 00:03:58,733 --> 00:04:00,373 Speaker 3: and you go into town. 71 00:04:02,493 --> 00:04:05,533 Speaker 2: Been embarrassing, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're awkward and. 72 00:04:05,493 --> 00:04:10,293 Speaker 3: You're in Wellington without a car, if they suddenly say, look, 73 00:04:10,373 --> 00:04:12,853 Speaker 3: it looks like you got the stuff neck give old boy. Yeah, 74 00:04:13,173 --> 00:04:15,453 Speaker 3: you like, I've had stuff next all my life, but 75 00:04:15,813 --> 00:04:17,693 Speaker 3: never like the one I had the other night. 76 00:04:18,493 --> 00:04:20,013 Speaker 2: What do you think do you think caused it? It 77 00:04:20,093 --> 00:04:21,293 Speaker 2: was just a just a bad slop. 78 00:04:21,373 --> 00:04:23,533 Speaker 3: I think probably just sleeping in the wrong way. 79 00:04:23,453 --> 00:04:29,133 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got the product for you. Oh, dear, well, look, 80 00:04:29,213 --> 00:04:32,133 Speaker 2: I'm I'm glad that I'm glad that you turned out 81 00:04:32,173 --> 00:04:34,573 Speaker 2: okay in the end, because you know, sometimes people when 82 00:04:34,613 --> 00:04:37,013 Speaker 2: they've done their back, they really do need an ambulance 83 00:04:37,013 --> 00:04:39,133 Speaker 2: and they need assistance being lifted and all that kind 84 00:04:39,173 --> 00:04:40,453 Speaker 2: of thing. So I'm glad that things. 85 00:04:40,293 --> 00:04:43,293 Speaker 3: Would being You should say, yeah, interesting, you should say 86 00:04:43,293 --> 00:04:45,853 Speaker 3: about it back because it felt just like lower back 87 00:04:45,893 --> 00:04:47,213 Speaker 3: pain than your neck. 88 00:04:47,373 --> 00:04:50,893 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, hey, very quickly before we let you roll off. 89 00:04:50,893 --> 00:04:52,933 Speaker 2: I just want to be double sure you're not going 90 00:04:52,933 --> 00:04:54,013 Speaker 2: to the rugby tonight. 91 00:04:53,773 --> 00:04:57,333 Speaker 3: Are you. No, that's a great relief. Yeah, that's a 92 00:04:57,373 --> 00:04:59,853 Speaker 3: great Now I'm in the wrong town for that. 93 00:04:59,933 --> 00:05:02,733 Speaker 2: Well no, but I mean, given given the result against 94 00:05:02,733 --> 00:05:05,933 Speaker 2: the spring Box two weeks ago, that's probably good that 95 00:05:05,933 --> 00:05:07,253 Speaker 2: you're actually choosing to say. 96 00:05:07,253 --> 00:05:08,973 Speaker 3: I see what you mean. Yeah, yeah, I see what 97 00:05:08,973 --> 00:05:11,213 Speaker 3: you mean. Now stay well away. Thanks. In fact, I'm 98 00:05:11,253 --> 00:05:14,653 Speaker 3: not sure that I've attended the game in recent years 99 00:05:15,053 --> 00:05:17,853 Speaker 3: where I got the result of bonded of any type. 100 00:05:18,893 --> 00:05:22,773 Speaker 2: Anyway, staying far away then this evening, Thank you, sir. 101 00:05:22,853 --> 00:05:24,773 Speaker 2: We're all catching him very soon. That is Kevin mel 102 00:05:25,093 --> 00:05:26,133 Speaker 2: with us this Morning Thing. 103 00:05:26,693 --> 00:05:29,813 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 104 00:05:29,893 --> 00:05:32,733 Speaker 1: to News Talks d B from nine am Saturday, or 105 00:05:32,773 --> 00:05:34,693 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.