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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks at B.

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Speaker 2: David Wenham is Australian acting royalty. You'll know him from

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Speaker 2: the likes of Lord of the Rings, Van Helsing and Lyon.

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Speaker 2: But back in two thousand and three, David played the

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Speaker 2: hilarious side character and an Aussie film that had a

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Speaker 2: modest release but went on to be an absolute cult classic.

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Speaker 2: That film was called Getting Square, and his character, Johnny Spitteri,

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Speaker 2: a goonish small town criminal, is back in his very

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Speaker 2: own spin off, which is simply titled Spit.

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Speaker 1: John Francis Spetier who lock him up?

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Speaker 3: This is Australia.

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Speaker 2: It's still a free country, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Oh mate, there's used a tragic case of mistaken identity partners.

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Speaker 2: This is your driver's license.

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Speaker 3: No, he's got squinty eyes. I don't have squinty eyes.

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Speaker 3: You're run for a restaurant.

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Speaker 1: Why are you in jail?

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Speaker 3: I'm going to get out of you. When I do,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to look out there and aloe.

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Speaker 1: John Francis Battiri has been located alive.

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Speaker 2: Disaster John Francis SPATII is played by David Winhem and

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Speaker 2: David's Withathers this morning.

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Speaker 3: Calder, good morning, Good to be with you, Jack.

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Speaker 2: It's so good to be speaking with you. Now, tell

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Speaker 2: me about your position with all of this. You have

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Speaker 2: worked in massive name Hollywood blockbusters, major franchises. What drew

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Speaker 2: you to Spett?

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Speaker 3: Back to spit Because Speaker was a character that was

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Speaker 3: in a movie twenty three years ago or twenty two

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Speaker 3: years ago called Getting Square. None of us involved in

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Speaker 3: that film ever thought that we'd be revisiting that world again.

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Speaker 3: It was just it started from a conversation about eleven

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Speaker 3: years ago I had with a good friend of mine

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Speaker 3: who's a filmmaker, Robert Connolly, and we were talking about

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Speaker 3: the fact Robert's known me for a long time, the

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Speaker 3: fact that one of my strongest suits is comedy and

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Speaker 3: I never get the opportunity to exist that very often.

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Speaker 3: And he brought up the character of Johnny's Pateria from

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Speaker 3: Getting Square, and I started a riff on a whole

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Speaker 3: heap of scenarios that you could drop Johnny in and

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Speaker 3: then you know, potential hilarity may ensue. And he said,

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Speaker 3: So I rang Chris Nice, who wrote Getting Square, and

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Speaker 3: he said, well, your timing is interesting because he'd been

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Speaker 3: working on the film centered around Spit with the director

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Speaker 3: Jonathan Taplitsky for some time and he said, you want

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Speaker 3: me to send it over to you. I said, yeah, sure,

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Speaker 3: and I read it the very first draft about eleven

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Speaker 3: years ago. Ten eleven years ago, I thought was absolutely inspired.

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Speaker 3: Because none of us wanted to do Getting Square two.

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Speaker 3: There had to be a reason for Spit to come back,

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Speaker 3: and it had to be solid enough that, you know,

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Speaker 3: the audience would be completely engaged for you know, ninety

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Speaker 3: to one hundred minutes. And he nailed it pretty much

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Speaker 3: straight off the bat, and then that obviously the hardest

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Speaker 3: part then was to get the film up and that's

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Speaker 3: another story. But we did and now it's finally reaching

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Speaker 3: the cinema, which is great.

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Speaker 2: So what is it For people who haven't seen Getting Square?

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Speaker 2: What do you think it is about Johnny Spatiri's character

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Speaker 2: that made him such good fodder for a stand alone film.

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Speaker 3: It's funny, actually, because he's the most unlikely sort of

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Speaker 3: original film Getting Square, it was a comedy crime caper

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Speaker 3: and the character of Johnny's batteria is a really he's

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Speaker 3: an outsider. You know, he's in getting squeed. He's a junkie.

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Speaker 3: He's a small time criminal with a lot of quirks

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Speaker 3: and idiosyncrasies. Christinized the writers said, you're not sure if

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Speaker 2: Because he's interrupting, he's sort of he's sort of he's

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Speaker 2: sort of dumb in some respects, but incredibly cunning as well.

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Speaker 3: Is that Yeah, that's right, Yeah, that's right, Yeah, street smart.

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Speaker 3: And the other thing about him is and I think

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Speaker 3: Chris would describe in the ride, he describes me as

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Speaker 3: And you know, a couple of decades later, I still

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Speaker 3: and giving so much, so much laughter, but with this

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Speaker 3: and people get a little bit more than they think

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Speaker 3: they're going to get in this There's added extras in

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Speaker 3: this film which has made it much more rich for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it takes on some as well as

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Speaker 2: being very funny and very entertaining, it takes on some,

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Speaker 2: you know, some pretty pressing social kind of issues and

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Speaker 2: even even the scenario in which Spit finds himself he said,

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Speaker 2: you needed to have a good reason to bring him back,

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Speaker 2: And I mean it's literally bringing him back to Australia

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is these are these are you know,

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Speaker 3: They are they are you know, it isn't a political film.

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Speaker 3: It is out now the comedy. Having said that, though

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Speaker 3: basically at the end of the film it's a film.

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Speaker 3: It's a film full of hope. It's a film that

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Speaker 3: brings people together. It's a film that celebrates the best

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Speaker 3: As you say, yes does find himself in immigration detention,

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Speaker 3: and the characters in those scenes are actually all real

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Speaker 3: refugees or they're offspring refugees. And the one thing that

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Speaker 3: reason was that it was funny. It was a comedy.

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Speaker 3: They said, for the first time, we get to see ourselves,

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Speaker 3: defined as refugees. They said, look, we're the same as

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Speaker 3: everybody else. Some of us are really smart, some of

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Speaker 3: it's a really great opportunity to show people that, you know,

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Speaker 3: we have a full range of characteristics, just like everybody else.

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Speaker 3: But they love the fact that it was a comedy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So how does a production like this compere like

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Speaker 2: this is this is a like true blue fear di

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Speaker 2: to some of those massive, big blockbusters that you've worked on.

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Speaker 2: I mean, presumably people are drawn to spit for the

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Speaker 3: Well, completely we have there's a number of returning characters

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Speaker 3: and I don't I can't think of any film in

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Speaker 3: We have the same writer, we have the same director,

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Speaker 3: we have the same cinematographer, head of design, head of makeup.

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Speaker 3: Like every key creative has come back because they want

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Speaker 3: to be part of this because it's really special. They

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Speaker 3: read the script and go, oh my god, this is

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Speaker 3: actually really unique. Tessnatoli, who did my hair and makeup

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Speaker 3: She turned down, as did other crew members, opportunities to

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Speaker 3: our dates kept slipping, but didn't worry. No, I'm going

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Speaker 3: to do it. I'm going to do it. There was

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Speaker 3: a love and a passion to tell stories from our

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Speaker 3: We have you know, we haven't a unique sense of

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Speaker 3: there's nothing better than sitting in a cinema that's full

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Speaker 3: of a whole heap of people laughing as one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 2: I think, you know, I think about I think about

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Speaker 2: some of those at Alien comedy cult classics from across

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Speaker 2: the years, and there is something about the Australian sense

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Speaker 2: of humor, whether it's Kenny or whether it's you know,

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Speaker 2: the Kerigan family from the Castle. Yeah, there's something about

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Speaker 2: audiences will will absolutely love. But it's amazing. So Gettin

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Speaker 2: Square was two thousand and three, right, and that the

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Speaker 2: environment into which that was released was profoundly different from

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Speaker 2: the streaming era in which we now live. And the

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Speaker 2: thing about Getting Square was that it did super well

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Speaker 2: in the sort of VHS DVD department, right, So I

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Speaker 2: sort of got a cult following through those sales. Do

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Speaker 2: you think we can make cult films anymore in this

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Speaker 3: Well, those polp films are things that people find over

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Speaker 3: time and that's whay they become a cult. The thing

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Speaker 3: nature of the film as well. We wanted to we

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Speaker 3: thing of being within your community and laughing together and

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Speaker 3: different levels. The laughter is like it is, yeah, it's

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Speaker 3: It really touches people. And we've had people really quite

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Speaker 3: profoundly affected in the fact that they find that this

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Speaker 2: There must be so rewarding to see that, to see

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Speaker 3: I gotta say it's extraordinary. It's like the very first

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Speaker 3: And we screened it and afterwards I did a question

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Speaker 3: answer session. I talked about the wardrobe, the fact that

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Speaker 3: I saurce my wardrobe from a second hand shop in

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Speaker 3: gold less as Egyptians do it better. And as I

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I'm just so overwhelmed with this movie because

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Speaker 3: finally I actually get to see some of my people.

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Speaker 3: We're Australians here and for the first time, I feel

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Speaker 3: Not that it's you know, as I said, there is

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Speaker 3: no politics in the film. It's just a comedy that

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Speaker 3: brings people together. And that reaction from different parts of

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Speaker 3: a story about the fact that which which people quite enjoy. Actually,

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Speaker 3: I also bought a pair of jeans over there that

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Speaker 3: there's no way I'm going to get into those, But

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Speaker 3: the lady who was working the shop wasn't looking. So

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Speaker 3: I pulled down my dacks and tried to get into

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Speaker 3: these women's gens and I got into them and they

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Speaker 3: fit me perfectly, and I thought, oh my god, yes,

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Speaker 3: these are Johnny's Batries jeans that looks as though they're

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Speaker 3: and she didn't say anything for quite some time, and

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Speaker 3: then finally she just looked up at me, sheepishly, and

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Speaker 3: she said, you do know their maternity jeans, don't you.

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Speaker 1: Do?

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Speaker 2: You know that was what's quisten for you, was going

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Speaker 2: to be How on earth did you get into those genes?

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Speaker 2: I wonder if the costume department had had to sow

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Speaker 3: Now, you know, there's certainly a lot of give in

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Speaker 3: those genes, especially around the belly ridge I'm glad.

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Speaker 2: I thought you might be having some sort of a

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Speaker 2: medical event trying to get yourself into those. Yeah yeah, yeah, no.

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Speaker 3: Very difficult otherwise. Yeah, so I bought those a year

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Speaker 3: before we did the film, and yeah, yeah, kept them.

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Speaker 3: And because a year before the film, Jonathan Puplitski, the director,

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Speaker 3: Spateria a little bit, So we put him in the

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Speaker 3: streets of London for one day and Jonathan just ran

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Speaker 3: after Spateri with an iPhone, just capturing footage. It's not

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Speaker 3: in the film, and you know, one day we might

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Speaker 3: release some of it online. But it was so brilliant

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Speaker 3: because I hadn't were worn as we call them thongs

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Speaker 3: and as you call them jandles. I hadn't worn them

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Speaker 3: in twenty two years. But as soon as I put

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Speaker 3: them back on, the character came back pretty much instantly,

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Speaker 3: and I felt the way that Johnny walks and he moves,

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Speaker 3: he spoke, and it was it was such a creative

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Speaker 3: then we got kicked out of the portrait gallery.

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Speaker 2: Why did you get kicked out for filming?

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Speaker 3: Or Jonathan was filming Butteria was looking at a rather

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Speaker 3: big portrait of the Queen and god, yeah, looking at

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Speaker 3: that whatever. And there was a lady with who had

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Speaker 3: like a large tour group, a French lady, and for

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Speaker 3: some strange reasons, she thought Jonathan was filming them. And

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Speaker 3: Jonathan was saying, I don't know why'd be interested in

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Speaker 3: the Queen and that's who I'm filming, but she she

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Speaker 3: didn't quite believe it, so you yeah, to leave.

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Speaker 2: I'm so glad you have gone to you know, to

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Speaker 2: such not extreme, but you know you you you have

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Speaker 2: gone to great lengths to bring this character back. And

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Speaker 2: I'm so glad you have because Spitt is so much fun.

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Speaker 2: He is an amazing character. It's a wonderful moving story,

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Speaker 2: as you say, And David, congratulations to you and the team.

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Speaker 3: It really is brilliant, oh fabulous. Has been great chatting

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Speaker 3: with you, Jack, Thank you so much.

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