1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,733 Speaker 1: from News Talks at B. 3 00:00:13,813 --> 00:00:14,013 Speaker 2: Night. 4 00:00:14,093 --> 00:00:18,093 Speaker 3: Your weekend off the right way. Saturday Morning with Jackdaine, 5 00:00:18,333 --> 00:00:19,293 Speaker 3: News Talks at. 6 00:00:19,173 --> 00:00:45,813 Speaker 4: B Good morning, Welcome to News talk Ed V. Jack 7 00:00:45,893 --> 00:00:47,933 Speaker 4: tam with you three to midday Today. I had my 8 00:00:48,013 --> 00:00:50,773 Speaker 4: first proper summary day of the summer. By that, I 9 00:00:50,773 --> 00:00:54,133 Speaker 4: don't mean that the that the weather was summary, orthough 10 00:00:54,173 --> 00:00:56,533 Speaker 4: obviously it's very summary. No, what I mean is that 11 00:00:56,573 --> 00:00:59,573 Speaker 4: I went to the beach, I had an ocean swim, 12 00:00:59,853 --> 00:01:01,973 Speaker 4: I came home and had a barbecue. So like the 13 00:01:02,053 --> 00:01:05,533 Speaker 4: ultimate kind of Kiwi summary day, everything was perfect. Everything 14 00:01:05,613 --> 00:01:10,093 Speaker 4: was amazing. The water was surprisingly warm. I took the 15 00:01:10,133 --> 00:01:12,253 Speaker 4: ten months old and we sat in the shallows as 16 00:01:12,253 --> 00:01:16,093 Speaker 4: the waves kind of rolled over him, and it was great. 17 00:01:16,093 --> 00:01:18,053 Speaker 4: This time I didn't manage to splash him in the 18 00:01:18,093 --> 00:01:20,973 Speaker 4: face like it the first time I took him to 19 00:01:21,013 --> 00:01:23,853 Speaker 4: the beach, so his mum was very pleased as well, 20 00:01:24,253 --> 00:01:27,453 Speaker 4: and it was superb. I did a butterfly leg lamb 21 00:01:27,493 --> 00:01:29,813 Speaker 4: on the barbecue as well, slightly overcooked. It would be 22 00:01:29,813 --> 00:01:31,733 Speaker 4: my only complaint on that. And good news for me 23 00:01:31,933 --> 00:01:34,213 Speaker 4: is that before ten o'clock this morning, our cook is 24 00:01:34,213 --> 00:01:38,253 Speaker 4: in with her top tips on absolutely nailing a slow 25 00:01:38,333 --> 00:01:42,973 Speaker 4: cooked butterfly lamb leg this summer. It's one of those 26 00:01:43,373 --> 00:01:47,333 Speaker 4: amazing cuts that, when done well, is absolutely delicious and 27 00:01:47,933 --> 00:01:51,773 Speaker 4: I feel like it's more impressive that than it actually looks, 28 00:01:51,813 --> 00:01:53,453 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like the amount of effort 29 00:01:53,493 --> 00:01:57,733 Speaker 4: that goes into it versus the end result is. You know, 30 00:01:57,813 --> 00:02:02,013 Speaker 4: everyone's really impressed when you nail it, unlike me, but 31 00:02:02,053 --> 00:02:04,493 Speaker 4: it really doesn't require you to be Nigella, you know. 32 00:02:04,733 --> 00:02:06,893 Speaker 4: So before ten o'clock we've got that recip for you 33 00:02:06,973 --> 00:02:08,973 Speaker 4: as well as that I'm going to tell you about 34 00:02:08,973 --> 00:02:12,373 Speaker 4: a new movie with George Clooney and Adam Sandler. And 35 00:02:12,413 --> 00:02:16,653 Speaker 4: then after ten cannot wait for this our feature interview 36 00:02:16,693 --> 00:02:20,213 Speaker 4: this morning is the star of Jonathan Creek, the star 37 00:02:20,573 --> 00:02:25,253 Speaker 4: of Qi. Alan Davis is headed to New Zealand. He's 38 00:02:25,333 --> 00:02:28,493 Speaker 4: doing his first stand up to it in Yonks. He's 39 00:02:28,493 --> 00:02:31,773 Speaker 4: one of those brilliant British wits, so really looking forward 40 00:02:31,773 --> 00:02:34,013 Speaker 4: to chatting with him after ten o'clock this morning. Right now, 41 00:02:34,053 --> 00:02:36,133 Speaker 4: it is nine minutes past nine. 42 00:02:36,093 --> 00:02:37,133 Speaker 5: Jack Team. 43 00:02:38,373 --> 00:02:42,813 Speaker 4: It's funny how becoming a parent instantly makes you care 44 00:02:42,893 --> 00:02:47,213 Speaker 4: more about stuff. There's a hot take if every there 45 00:02:47,293 --> 00:02:51,013 Speaker 4: was one, right, But it's funny as a like as 46 00:02:51,013 --> 00:02:52,813 Speaker 4: a kid. As a child, I used to find it 47 00:02:53,173 --> 00:02:58,173 Speaker 4: super embarrassing when my dad would yell out at cars 48 00:02:58,253 --> 00:03:01,413 Speaker 4: that were driving too fast. So, you know, we'd be 49 00:03:01,453 --> 00:03:03,173 Speaker 4: standing on the side of the street or walking to 50 00:03:03,213 --> 00:03:05,413 Speaker 4: school or something and someone would speed past and Dad 51 00:03:05,413 --> 00:03:07,213 Speaker 4: would call out to them, and I would think, oh, 52 00:03:07,293 --> 00:03:11,893 Speaker 4: my goodness, shame. But now I'm that guy. Right, every 53 00:03:11,933 --> 00:03:14,653 Speaker 4: time a car hoons up our street, I want to 54 00:03:14,693 --> 00:03:17,653 Speaker 4: scream at the driver, and sometimes I do. There are 55 00:03:17,733 --> 00:03:24,413 Speaker 4: kids here, you tosser. My values in education have very 56 00:03:24,493 --> 00:03:29,173 Speaker 4: much sharpened since becoming a parent. My views on kids 57 00:03:29,253 --> 00:03:34,493 Speaker 4: and smartphones have only intensified. And as Australia's world leading 58 00:03:34,653 --> 00:03:37,973 Speaker 4: ban on social media for under sixteens comes into effect, 59 00:03:38,453 --> 00:03:42,613 Speaker 4: I am fascinated to see what's going to happen. For 60 00:03:42,653 --> 00:03:48,653 Speaker 4: the record, I really really dislike social media. I think 61 00:03:48,693 --> 00:03:51,533 Speaker 4: what was initially sold to the world as a way 62 00:03:51,613 --> 00:03:56,013 Speaker 4: for people to connect has morphed into something far more 63 00:03:56,293 --> 00:04:01,813 Speaker 4: cynical and sinister. Honestly, the likes of Facebook know that 64 00:04:01,893 --> 00:04:06,333 Speaker 4: they maximize their profits by keeping people scrolling, and while 65 00:04:06,373 --> 00:04:08,973 Speaker 4: once upon a time when you were on Facebook or Instagram, 66 00:04:09,013 --> 00:04:11,173 Speaker 4: you would mainly just be seeing pictures of your mates. 67 00:04:11,973 --> 00:04:15,613 Speaker 4: The various platforms have all worked out that nothing keeps 68 00:04:15,653 --> 00:04:20,333 Speaker 4: people scrolling for longer than making them really, really angry. 69 00:04:21,213 --> 00:04:24,693 Speaker 4: For all of the relatively harmless accounts and cat videos 70 00:04:24,773 --> 00:04:28,693 Speaker 4: or people making creative and funny content, the net effect, 71 00:04:28,773 --> 00:04:32,013 Speaker 4: I think has been poisonous. The platforms that were meant 72 00:04:32,093 --> 00:04:35,133 Speaker 4: to connect us have done the opposite. They have isolated us, 73 00:04:35,173 --> 00:04:38,893 Speaker 4: They've divided us. I said last year on the show 74 00:04:39,133 --> 00:04:43,773 Speaker 4: that social media platforms should be subject to better regulation, 75 00:04:43,893 --> 00:04:48,333 Speaker 4: not to mention better or proper taxation, and at the 76 00:04:48,493 --> 00:04:54,053 Speaker 4: very least we should be considering something like Australia's social 77 00:04:54,133 --> 00:04:57,413 Speaker 4: media stance. But for those of us who nerd out 78 00:04:57,453 --> 00:05:02,413 Speaker 4: on public policy, the actual design of the Australian legislation 79 00:05:02,533 --> 00:05:06,253 Speaker 4: I think has underscored why this is such a trick, 80 00:05:06,413 --> 00:05:11,733 Speaker 4: key issue to legislate and regulate. And it comes down, 81 00:05:12,293 --> 00:05:18,493 Speaker 4: I think, to the definition what is social media? Even 82 00:05:18,533 --> 00:05:21,693 Speaker 4: though they can try and work to a common set 83 00:05:21,733 --> 00:05:26,853 Speaker 4: of standards, ultimately someone needs to make a judgment call right. 84 00:05:26,893 --> 00:05:29,653 Speaker 4: That's how the Australian law works. They've got a list 85 00:05:29,653 --> 00:05:32,213 Speaker 4: of ten platforms that are subject to the ban. So 86 00:05:32,333 --> 00:05:37,173 Speaker 4: while Instagram, Facebook, and TikTok have been banned, Discord doesn't 87 00:05:37,213 --> 00:05:41,053 Speaker 4: yet face the same restrictions. There are thousands of different 88 00:05:41,053 --> 00:05:44,733 Speaker 4: platforms nay hundreds of thousands, millions maybe on the Internet 89 00:05:44,973 --> 00:05:49,893 Speaker 4: where young people can still post and interact. YouTube has 90 00:05:49,973 --> 00:05:52,133 Speaker 4: argued that it isn't social media at all. You can 91 00:05:52,173 --> 00:05:55,653 Speaker 4: still access many videos without an account and read It 92 00:05:55,773 --> 00:05:59,493 Speaker 4: is taking legal action arguing that its platform is totally 93 00:05:59,533 --> 00:06:04,013 Speaker 4: different than many of the others. All of us appreciate 94 00:06:04,133 --> 00:06:08,173 Speaker 4: that teenagers are in right. You can try and play 95 00:06:08,213 --> 00:06:11,533 Speaker 4: whack a mole and ban every new platform that pops up, 96 00:06:11,573 --> 00:06:14,413 Speaker 4: but obviously some of them are going to find ways 97 00:06:14,453 --> 00:06:17,573 Speaker 4: around the law, just as anyone who got their hands 98 00:06:17,613 --> 00:06:21,253 Speaker 4: on alcohol or cigarettes before their eighteenth birthday will attest. 99 00:06:22,133 --> 00:06:24,693 Speaker 4: But supporters of the law say, actually, that is a 100 00:06:24,733 --> 00:06:28,733 Speaker 4: pretty good analogy. No one is suggesting that the ban 101 00:06:28,933 --> 00:06:33,573 Speaker 4: is going to stop every last kid from accessing social media, 102 00:06:34,133 --> 00:06:38,933 Speaker 4: but it generally makes it more difficult with the most 103 00:06:39,053 --> 00:06:45,853 Speaker 4: popular platforms. Truthfully, I don't know how effective this law 104 00:06:45,933 --> 00:06:49,693 Speaker 4: is going to be. I don't know. I understand the 105 00:06:49,733 --> 00:06:53,013 Speaker 4: impulse to want to protect children. I was a big 106 00:06:53,053 --> 00:06:57,373 Speaker 4: supporter of banning phones and schools. I think that unregulated 107 00:06:57,373 --> 00:07:02,533 Speaker 4: social media has been disastrous, but this is super, super complex. 108 00:07:03,653 --> 00:07:05,493 Speaker 4: I think the sensible thing for New Zealand to do 109 00:07:05,773 --> 00:07:11,413 Speaker 4: is to wait, not forever, but just take six months, 110 00:07:11,613 --> 00:07:17,053 Speaker 4: take a year, learn from the Australians, observe closely the 111 00:07:17,173 --> 00:07:20,133 Speaker 4: unintended impacts of the law, what works well and what doesn't, 112 00:07:20,653 --> 00:07:24,333 Speaker 4: and then make a call. And even if we do 113 00:07:24,493 --> 00:07:30,093 Speaker 4: act in the future, just as with booze or with cigarettes, truthfully, 114 00:07:30,173 --> 00:07:33,293 Speaker 4: the state can only do so much. And look, it's 115 00:07:33,293 --> 00:07:35,253 Speaker 4: easy to say this now, perhaps come back to me 116 00:07:35,453 --> 00:07:38,173 Speaker 4: in five or ten years or when my kids are 117 00:07:38,213 --> 00:07:42,733 Speaker 4: a bit older, But the primary responsibility for keeping kids 118 00:07:42,733 --> 00:07:47,533 Speaker 4: safe in the digital age cannot fall to governments or legislators. 119 00:07:48,213 --> 00:07:54,293 Speaker 4: The responsibility is with us parents. Jack Team ninety two. 120 00:07:54,373 --> 00:07:56,493 Speaker 4: Ninety two is the text number if you want to 121 00:07:56,653 --> 00:07:59,053 Speaker 4: send me a message this morning. Don't forget the standard 122 00:07:59,053 --> 00:08:00,893 Speaker 4: text costs supply you can email me as well. If 123 00:08:00,933 --> 00:08:03,013 Speaker 4: you like Jacket, Newstalk, zb dot co, do on his head, 124 00:08:03,133 --> 00:08:07,653 Speaker 4: hit me up on Facebook, go on TikTok, Instagram. No, no, no, 125 00:08:07,693 --> 00:08:10,173 Speaker 4: I'm just kidding. We're gonna catch up with our sparto 126 00:08:10,733 --> 00:08:13,653 Speaker 4: very shortly. It's a shame really that well, it's great 127 00:08:13,693 --> 00:08:15,293 Speaker 4: that the black Cats won, but I would have loved 128 00:08:15,333 --> 00:08:18,053 Speaker 4: to see the second test, the last test of the 129 00:08:18,053 --> 00:08:21,653 Speaker 4: New Zealand summer stretch beyond three days. But big As chooses. 130 00:08:21,653 --> 00:08:23,453 Speaker 4: I suppose we'll get his thoughts on that very soon. 131 00:08:23,613 --> 00:08:25,493 Speaker 4: Kevin Melons here to kick us off for our Saturday 132 00:08:25,493 --> 00:08:28,013 Speaker 4: Morning together next. Right now, it is quarter past nine, 133 00:08:28,053 --> 00:08:30,773 Speaker 4: it is Saturday morning. I'm Jack Tame and this is 134 00:08:30,853 --> 00:08:31,373 Speaker 4: News Talks. 135 00:08:31,373 --> 00:08:34,893 Speaker 3: He'd be no better way to kick off your weekend. 136 00:08:35,173 --> 00:08:38,813 Speaker 3: Then quit with Jack. Saturday Morning with Jack. 137 00:08:38,893 --> 00:08:40,293 Speaker 5: Team News Talk said, be. 138 00:08:42,853 --> 00:08:45,293 Speaker 4: Thank you for your messages. Ben says, Jack, leave free 139 00:08:45,373 --> 00:08:48,013 Speaker 4: speech alone. If my son wants to use Facebook, he can. 140 00:08:48,093 --> 00:08:51,333 Speaker 4: It's called being a parent keeping an eye on your kids. Jack. 141 00:08:51,373 --> 00:08:55,093 Speaker 4: What social media does is replace connection with communication. People 142 00:08:55,173 --> 00:08:58,253 Speaker 4: forget that what people really want is connection, and you 143 00:08:58,333 --> 00:09:01,653 Speaker 4: don't get that on social media. And Jack. While I'm 144 00:09:01,693 --> 00:09:04,413 Speaker 4: thrilled with the Aussies and the stance that they're taking 145 00:09:04,413 --> 00:09:07,133 Speaker 4: on social media, I worry their focus fall short of 146 00:09:07,173 --> 00:09:11,173 Speaker 4: platforms such as four Chan and discord. The issue is 147 00:09:11,213 --> 00:09:14,293 Speaker 4: that parents are sometimes unaware of what their kids are 148 00:09:14,293 --> 00:09:18,133 Speaker 4: doing online and when they're unsupervised with gaming apps like roadblocks, 149 00:09:18,213 --> 00:09:21,533 Speaker 4: file sharing and communication platforms like Discord. That is where 150 00:09:21,573 --> 00:09:26,453 Speaker 4: the real dangers lie, with things like coercion and violent manipulation. 151 00:09:26,933 --> 00:09:29,973 Speaker 4: You are one hundred percent correct, though, says Ray. Parents 152 00:09:30,013 --> 00:09:33,253 Speaker 4: have a major role to play here. Ninety two. Ninety 153 00:09:33,253 --> 00:09:34,693 Speaker 4: two is the text number. If you want to see 154 00:09:34,693 --> 00:09:36,213 Speaker 4: me a message, you can email me as well. You 155 00:09:36,213 --> 00:09:39,133 Speaker 4: know the deal. Eighteen past nine and Kevin Milne is 156 00:09:39,133 --> 00:09:41,693 Speaker 4: with us this morning for the penultimate time in twenty 157 00:09:41,693 --> 00:09:43,453 Speaker 4: twenty five. Kyoto, Kevin, Good. 158 00:09:43,293 --> 00:09:45,173 Speaker 2: Morning, Kyoda Jack. 159 00:09:45,413 --> 00:09:48,053 Speaker 6: Did you see Ja Cinder on Graham Lawton last night? 160 00:09:48,093 --> 00:09:50,733 Speaker 4: I did? Yeah, yeah. What did you think of her? 161 00:09:50,973 --> 00:09:53,733 Speaker 4: Of her performance? It's very good in those sorts of things. 162 00:09:53,933 --> 00:09:54,973 Speaker 2: I thought it's just really good. 163 00:09:55,013 --> 00:09:57,933 Speaker 6: Actually, But did you leave the whole world thinking that 164 00:09:57,973 --> 00:10:00,973 Speaker 6: most New Zealanders can ride a horse bare back? 165 00:10:02,813 --> 00:10:03,173 Speaker 7: I did that? 166 00:10:03,293 --> 00:10:07,413 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, hopefully not everyone's expecting that of us. Well, 167 00:10:07,453 --> 00:10:09,413 Speaker 4: I don't know about you, Kevin. I'm not sure what 168 00:10:09,453 --> 00:10:12,653 Speaker 4: you've been up to in your spare time. Maybe that's 169 00:10:12,693 --> 00:10:15,253 Speaker 4: one of the many talents that you can test having. 170 00:10:15,973 --> 00:10:19,333 Speaker 6: Yes, yes, yes, she was saying, wasn't she She applied 171 00:10:19,333 --> 00:10:22,173 Speaker 6: for a job when she was young as a as 172 00:10:22,213 --> 00:10:22,653 Speaker 6: a hobbit. 173 00:10:22,893 --> 00:10:23,173 Speaker 4: Yes. 174 00:10:23,253 --> 00:10:26,973 Speaker 6: And they asked her two questions, can you ride bareback? 175 00:10:27,053 --> 00:10:30,853 Speaker 6: And she said, well, yes, I mean your zealand I 176 00:10:30,893 --> 00:10:35,253 Speaker 6: was thinking what no. And then the other question was 177 00:10:35,253 --> 00:10:36,093 Speaker 6: could you joust? 178 00:10:36,493 --> 00:10:36,653 Speaker 2: Yes? 179 00:10:36,773 --> 00:10:38,453 Speaker 6: I thought it was an extraordinary question. 180 00:10:38,533 --> 00:10:41,533 Speaker 2: Really, Oh, yes, yes, yes I joust. 181 00:10:41,613 --> 00:10:45,533 Speaker 6: If you askedternoon on Saturday, Yeah, ridiculous. 182 00:10:45,253 --> 00:10:47,373 Speaker 4: You know, every time I watch it, though, every time 183 00:10:47,373 --> 00:10:51,013 Speaker 4: I watched Graham Norton, and obviously, you know, just Doing 184 00:10:51,093 --> 00:10:53,893 Speaker 4: is a very strong communicator, regardless of what one thinks 185 00:10:53,933 --> 00:10:56,333 Speaker 4: of her politics, and she's a very very strong communicator. 186 00:10:57,813 --> 00:11:00,373 Speaker 4: Whenever I watched Graham Norton, I'm just an ore of 187 00:11:00,453 --> 00:11:03,573 Speaker 4: him as a broadcaster. I think he is an incredible 188 00:11:03,613 --> 00:11:07,933 Speaker 4: broadcaster because his amazing talent is that when he has 189 00:11:08,413 --> 00:11:11,133 Speaker 4: people who are really good communicators and really good speakers, 190 00:11:11,653 --> 00:11:15,573 Speaker 4: he lets them run the show. He gives them all 191 00:11:15,613 --> 00:11:18,373 Speaker 4: the space in the world. But the moment that someone 192 00:11:18,493 --> 00:11:20,533 Speaker 4: is a little bit hesitant or a little bit nervous, 193 00:11:20,613 --> 00:11:22,773 Speaker 4: or isn't quite as strong, he leaps in there and 194 00:11:22,853 --> 00:11:24,893 Speaker 4: is able to make jokes and kind of weave together 195 00:11:24,933 --> 00:11:27,573 Speaker 4: different people's stories and experiences. I just think he's I 196 00:11:27,613 --> 00:11:31,013 Speaker 4: think he's like a truly unique generational talent. 197 00:11:32,253 --> 00:11:34,893 Speaker 6: Yeah, anyway, I was thinking, I was thinking to myself 198 00:11:35,213 --> 00:11:37,973 Speaker 6: last night, actually, how would I cope with being in 199 00:11:38,013 --> 00:11:42,133 Speaker 6: that group? I mean that had some very very strong people, 200 00:11:42,653 --> 00:11:47,453 Speaker 6: and it'd be quite nerve wracking, wouldn't it. Wondering in there? 201 00:11:48,053 --> 00:11:51,013 Speaker 4: I think I suspect that they're they're very well produced, 202 00:11:51,493 --> 00:11:53,653 Speaker 4: so they all know roughly what they're going to say, 203 00:11:53,693 --> 00:11:55,653 Speaker 4: and they all know they kind of they have a 204 00:11:55,693 --> 00:11:58,453 Speaker 4: couple of anecdotes prepared and that sort of thing. You know, 205 00:11:58,493 --> 00:12:00,493 Speaker 4: There's there's a little bit of spontaneity in there, but 206 00:12:00,533 --> 00:12:03,693 Speaker 4: I suspect that there's quite there's a lot of organization 207 00:12:03,813 --> 00:12:06,333 Speaker 4: that goes into making it look so casual and relax 208 00:12:06,533 --> 00:12:09,933 Speaker 4: on TV. Yeah, anyway, you want to talk today about 209 00:12:10,013 --> 00:12:11,373 Speaker 4: Christmas messages, Kevin. 210 00:12:11,933 --> 00:12:13,853 Speaker 6: Yeah, I want to thank you for your Christmas card 211 00:12:13,893 --> 00:12:17,213 Speaker 6: earlier in the week. I particularly like getting it for 212 00:12:17,333 --> 00:12:21,653 Speaker 6: three reasons. One because it's the only Christmas card we've 213 00:12:21,653 --> 00:12:27,013 Speaker 6: got this year. Not even any real estate agent to 214 00:12:27,933 --> 00:12:30,453 Speaker 6: collector has sent us one no. 215 00:12:31,013 --> 00:12:31,253 Speaker 8: Two. 216 00:12:31,853 --> 00:12:35,253 Speaker 6: Second reason, we got the card on Tuesday, so I 217 00:12:35,253 --> 00:12:37,013 Speaker 6: went out that you must have sent it to a 218 00:12:37,133 --> 00:12:40,013 Speaker 6: three days earlier. That would have been when you're in 219 00:12:40,093 --> 00:12:46,973 Speaker 6: the thick of preparing for an astonishingly demanding, research intensive, 220 00:12:47,653 --> 00:12:52,213 Speaker 6: even physically taxing, one hour interview with police former police 221 00:12:52,253 --> 00:12:55,893 Speaker 6: Commissioner Andrew Costa. That interview broke a lot of new 222 00:12:55,933 --> 00:12:58,933 Speaker 6: ground and led to headlines all over the country and 223 00:12:59,093 --> 00:13:02,373 Speaker 6: somewhere around all that you took the time to send 224 00:13:02,453 --> 00:13:07,013 Speaker 6: Linda and I a Christmas card. How chuffed we and 225 00:13:07,053 --> 00:13:11,093 Speaker 6: by the way, congratulations on an interview of the highest quality. 226 00:13:12,053 --> 00:13:16,053 Speaker 6: The third reason I like getting a Christmas card. It 227 00:13:16,173 --> 00:13:21,333 Speaker 6: was handwritten, specifically written for us, and didn't have the 228 00:13:21,373 --> 00:13:25,573 Speaker 6: slightest whiff of AI about it. I rail at the 229 00:13:25,613 --> 00:13:29,653 Speaker 6: thought of using AI to send someone a personal message. 230 00:13:29,773 --> 00:13:32,493 Speaker 6: I'm not against AI, I use all the time when 231 00:13:32,733 --> 00:13:37,373 Speaker 6: writing columns to find precisely the right word that I need, 232 00:13:37,413 --> 00:13:40,973 Speaker 6: for example, But the thought of allowing AI to convey 233 00:13:41,013 --> 00:13:45,013 Speaker 6: a Christmas west to a friend for me, I find 234 00:13:45,013 --> 00:13:49,373 Speaker 6: it awful fake friendship. I was recently sent an E 235 00:13:49,493 --> 00:13:53,293 Speaker 6: card inviting me to add my Birthday message to a friend. 236 00:13:54,053 --> 00:13:57,973 Speaker 6: AI offered to help me make my message more original, 237 00:13:59,013 --> 00:14:02,293 Speaker 6: or even having them write the entire message for me. 238 00:14:03,133 --> 00:14:04,373 Speaker 8: You are joking? 239 00:14:04,933 --> 00:14:08,893 Speaker 6: Are you urged listeners ever to take AI up on 240 00:14:08,973 --> 00:14:13,173 Speaker 6: such an offer. A simple message from you is always 241 00:14:13,213 --> 00:14:16,053 Speaker 6: going to be far better than a limp line or 242 00:14:16,053 --> 00:14:19,573 Speaker 6: two from AI, which is one of the reasons Lindra 243 00:14:19,613 --> 00:14:24,173 Speaker 6: and I so much appreciated your handwritten Christmas card Jack. 244 00:14:24,813 --> 00:14:26,893 Speaker 4: I think that the most generous thing about your comment 245 00:14:26,973 --> 00:14:29,093 Speaker 4: this morning, Kevin is that you have neglected to mention 246 00:14:29,213 --> 00:14:32,453 Speaker 4: my handwriting. I'm a place you could even tell it 247 00:14:32,533 --> 00:14:36,333 Speaker 4: was from me. I just I have appalling handwriting. That 248 00:14:36,493 --> 00:14:39,613 Speaker 4: the handwriting of a sort of a child who's I 249 00:14:39,613 --> 00:14:42,293 Speaker 4: don't know, but yeah, you know, it's just sort of 250 00:14:42,293 --> 00:14:45,573 Speaker 4: sliding off the page. It's barely legible to me. I 251 00:14:45,613 --> 00:14:47,333 Speaker 4: don't understand how anyone can read it. 252 00:14:47,933 --> 00:14:48,133 Speaker 9: Yeah. 253 00:14:48,173 --> 00:14:51,373 Speaker 6: What interested that is that you still print rather than 254 00:14:51,493 --> 00:14:58,333 Speaker 6: naturally use cursive writing? Yeah, yeah, exactly is that because 255 00:14:58,373 --> 00:15:00,813 Speaker 6: your cursor writing is totally illegible. 256 00:15:00,933 --> 00:15:04,253 Speaker 4: It's totally illegible, totally eligible. I can be writing notes 257 00:15:04,293 --> 00:15:06,493 Speaker 4: on a notepad of work and then go and look 258 00:15:06,533 --> 00:15:09,093 Speaker 4: at them half an hour later, and I think, oh, 259 00:15:09,293 --> 00:15:11,533 Speaker 4: that could be, that could be about seven different words. 260 00:15:11,533 --> 00:15:14,293 Speaker 4: That one could be. You know, it's it's it's terribly tricky. 261 00:15:14,373 --> 00:15:15,373 Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah. 262 00:15:15,573 --> 00:15:18,573 Speaker 6: Well, we didn't care what the writing was, what style 263 00:15:18,653 --> 00:15:22,293 Speaker 6: of writing you adopted. It was getting the card and 264 00:15:22,373 --> 00:15:25,893 Speaker 6: your your warm wishes. We thought it was just great. 265 00:15:26,013 --> 00:15:28,293 Speaker 6: And when I when I thought of that, the wheat 266 00:15:28,373 --> 00:15:35,853 Speaker 6: you've had, I mean phenomenal, that one hour interview terrific 267 00:15:36,173 --> 00:15:40,533 Speaker 6: and to have somehow another in that time thought of 268 00:15:40,613 --> 00:15:41,613 Speaker 6: us and got. 269 00:15:41,413 --> 00:15:43,093 Speaker 2: A card away to us, just. 270 00:15:44,813 --> 00:15:46,133 Speaker 6: Very very flattering. 271 00:15:46,933 --> 00:15:50,413 Speaker 4: No, no, no, I'm grateful you received it, and grateful 272 00:15:50,453 --> 00:15:53,093 Speaker 4: for everything you do for us on Saturday mornings, Kevin, 273 00:15:53,133 --> 00:15:55,213 Speaker 4: and have done for so many years. So I'm pleased 274 00:15:55,213 --> 00:15:57,533 Speaker 4: to hear it. And when it comes to AI, you know, 275 00:15:57,893 --> 00:16:00,253 Speaker 4: I think we all agree with you. There should be 276 00:16:00,293 --> 00:16:03,333 Speaker 4: a There should be a ban on AI Christmas messages 277 00:16:03,453 --> 00:16:07,493 Speaker 4: and AI best man speeches. It's my other one. I 278 00:16:07,533 --> 00:16:10,213 Speaker 4: think like there's the moment you go to one of 279 00:16:09,973 --> 00:16:12,973 Speaker 4: the chat GPTs or GEM and I or anything and 280 00:16:12,973 --> 00:16:14,773 Speaker 4: you say, I'm the best man and I need to 281 00:16:14,773 --> 00:16:17,813 Speaker 4: make a heartfelt switch for my friend. It should immediately 282 00:16:17,813 --> 00:16:21,333 Speaker 4: say Ping Mingming, do not sorry that that is beyond 283 00:16:21,733 --> 00:16:23,413 Speaker 4: the realms of what we can help you with. 284 00:16:23,613 --> 00:16:27,773 Speaker 6: That just ye moment and then and then contact the 285 00:16:27,813 --> 00:16:31,773 Speaker 6: groom exactly you you're. 286 00:16:31,613 --> 00:16:38,493 Speaker 4: Getting exactly, yeah, exactly. Oh dear all right, Kevin, Hey, 287 00:16:38,493 --> 00:16:40,693 Speaker 4: thanks so much. Have a great weekend, and I'm really 288 00:16:40,733 --> 00:16:42,373 Speaker 4: pleased the car got there in the en. Thank you 289 00:16:42,453 --> 00:16:44,893 Speaker 4: for your feedback, Kelly, says Jack. The under sixteen social 290 00:16:44,933 --> 00:16:48,373 Speaker 4: media band could be achieved by only letting under sixteen's 291 00:16:48,413 --> 00:16:51,013 Speaker 4: have phones that can simply make calls and allow texts. 292 00:16:51,093 --> 00:16:54,013 Speaker 4: A phone still exists, so so basically non smartphones are 293 00:16:54,053 --> 00:16:58,013 Speaker 4: dumb phone from under sixteens. That way, social media would 294 00:16:58,013 --> 00:17:01,413 Speaker 4: potentially only be accessed at home on other devices, potentially 295 00:17:01,493 --> 00:17:04,893 Speaker 4: under parental supervision. Thank you for that. We'll catch up 296 00:17:04,893 --> 00:17:06,933 Speaker 4: with our sporto in a couple of minutes and before 297 00:17:06,973 --> 00:17:09,453 Speaker 4: ten o'clock. On news talks, he'd be that beautiful slow 298 00:17:09,493 --> 00:17:12,653 Speaker 4: cook butterfly LAMB League recipe for you, twenty six past. 299 00:17:12,493 --> 00:17:20,933 Speaker 1: Nine getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack team. 300 00:17:21,053 --> 00:17:22,293 Speaker 1: On news talks, he'd. 301 00:17:22,133 --> 00:17:24,533 Speaker 4: Be twenty nine past nine on news Talks, he'd be 302 00:17:24,653 --> 00:17:27,853 Speaker 4: massive win for Hayden Wild, especially given the season he 303 00:17:27,893 --> 00:17:31,173 Speaker 4: has had. In the World Triathlon Champs this morning, so 304 00:17:31,253 --> 00:17:34,453 Speaker 4: he has won the World T one hundred title and 305 00:17:34,613 --> 00:17:36,213 Speaker 4: as long as getting as well as getting the title 306 00:17:36,253 --> 00:17:39,093 Speaker 4: he gets a three hundred and fifty thousand dollars bonus, 307 00:17:39,133 --> 00:17:42,653 Speaker 4: which is fantastic in this sport of triathlon, our sporto. 308 00:17:42,813 --> 00:17:46,413 Speaker 4: Andrew Saville is here this morning, and given that accident 309 00:17:46,693 --> 00:17:49,813 Speaker 4: that Hayden Wild suffered just just what six months ago, 310 00:17:49,853 --> 00:17:52,653 Speaker 4: it was about six months ago, it was in May year. Yeah, 311 00:17:52,733 --> 00:17:55,813 Speaker 4: it is just incredible the strength with which he has 312 00:17:55,853 --> 00:17:56,333 Speaker 4: come back. 313 00:17:57,213 --> 00:18:00,053 Speaker 2: Let's not forget jack morning to you. He rode his 314 00:18:00,093 --> 00:18:02,853 Speaker 2: bike into the back of a garbage truck in Japan. 315 00:18:02,973 --> 00:18:05,853 Speaker 2: I think it was he broke four ribs of shoulder 316 00:18:05,893 --> 00:18:09,733 Speaker 2: blades for lung damage. Then he is back in triathlon 317 00:18:09,893 --> 00:18:13,093 Speaker 2: less than three months later, an incredible comeback, and then 318 00:18:13,133 --> 00:18:16,733 Speaker 2: he just has kept winning everything pretty much. He won 319 00:18:16,773 --> 00:18:22,333 Speaker 2: in London, France, Spain, Woollongong, and then this the World 320 00:18:22,413 --> 00:18:26,733 Speaker 2: Championship final race this morning in the Middle East. He 321 00:18:26,773 --> 00:18:28,533 Speaker 2: missed out and do buy a few weeks ago. I 322 00:18:28,533 --> 00:18:31,533 Speaker 2: think you remember that where they messed up they messed 323 00:18:31,573 --> 00:18:34,573 Speaker 2: up the number of laps year he'd run nor biked, 324 00:18:34,813 --> 00:18:39,133 Speaker 2: and he probably would have won that as well. Quite 325 00:18:39,173 --> 00:18:43,413 Speaker 2: a lucrative series. It's quite a new series. Twenty five thousand. 326 00:18:43,493 --> 00:18:46,093 Speaker 2: I think us per win and then two hundred k 327 00:18:46,173 --> 00:18:49,693 Speaker 2: as you mentioned us for winning the title, so he's 328 00:18:49,733 --> 00:18:53,773 Speaker 2: done well this year, totally, totally, thoroughly deserved too. The 329 00:18:53,813 --> 00:18:55,693 Speaker 2: t one hundred of In case you're not aware, it's 330 00:18:55,733 --> 00:18:59,013 Speaker 2: a two k swim, right, most of us wouldn't even 331 00:18:59,013 --> 00:19:02,493 Speaker 2: be able to do that, right Ye. An eighty k 332 00:19:02,613 --> 00:19:05,653 Speaker 2: bike ride in an eighteen k run, and these guys 333 00:19:05,733 --> 00:19:09,293 Speaker 2: and women do it at an amazing clip too. They 334 00:19:09,333 --> 00:19:12,493 Speaker 2: are sprinting the whole way in the run, They're riding 335 00:19:12,733 --> 00:19:15,013 Speaker 2: full out on the bike and then swimming fast too, 336 00:19:15,053 --> 00:19:17,773 Speaker 2: So that's one hundred k overall. It's pretty much like 337 00:19:17,773 --> 00:19:20,453 Speaker 2: a half iron Man. And Wild made a point after 338 00:19:20,493 --> 00:19:24,693 Speaker 2: Paris that he would do longer series and longer races 339 00:19:24,693 --> 00:19:28,293 Speaker 2: before la in the Olympics in twenty twenty eight. I 340 00:19:28,293 --> 00:19:29,973 Speaker 2: don't know if you've ever met Haye and Wild, but 341 00:19:30,013 --> 00:19:32,253 Speaker 2: I actually thought I've only ever seen him on screen. 342 00:19:32,293 --> 00:19:33,853 Speaker 2: I thought he was a big cookie. Then I met 343 00:19:33,933 --> 00:19:35,253 Speaker 2: him after Paris. 344 00:19:35,413 --> 00:19:36,933 Speaker 4: No, no, no, and he's tiny. 345 00:19:37,213 --> 00:19:40,373 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's tiny. I could almost see through him. 346 00:19:40,653 --> 00:19:40,973 Speaker 10: Yeah. 347 00:19:41,133 --> 00:19:44,813 Speaker 4: I think it's a power to wait component that makes 348 00:19:44,813 --> 00:19:45,533 Speaker 4: you got to try. 349 00:19:45,373 --> 00:19:45,653 Speaker 8: It for. 350 00:19:47,973 --> 00:19:50,533 Speaker 2: I felt ashamed what he puts his body through. Jack, 351 00:19:51,773 --> 00:19:54,693 Speaker 2: and there's not many weeks break between these T one 352 00:19:54,773 --> 00:19:58,613 Speaker 2: hundred races. What he puts his body through every third 353 00:19:58,653 --> 00:20:01,093 Speaker 2: or fourth weekend and training obviously as well, it's just 354 00:20:01,373 --> 00:20:04,853 Speaker 2: it's just incredible. He would have to be arguably the 355 00:20:04,853 --> 00:20:09,133 Speaker 2: world's best try athlete at the moment across the Olympic distance, 356 00:20:09,173 --> 00:20:12,493 Speaker 2: across half iron Man or T one hundred and even 357 00:20:12,533 --> 00:20:15,693 Speaker 2: iron Man distance, he would have to be right up 358 00:20:15,733 --> 00:20:18,973 Speaker 2: there and on the globe. So well done to Hayden 359 00:20:19,013 --> 00:20:22,133 Speaker 2: Wild and again considering what he's come back from, it's 360 00:20:22,173 --> 00:20:23,853 Speaker 2: been it's been quite the incredible year. 361 00:20:24,173 --> 00:20:27,173 Speaker 4: The black CAFs one and up three days for the 362 00:20:27,213 --> 00:20:27,813 Speaker 4: second Test. 363 00:20:29,013 --> 00:20:31,293 Speaker 2: Everyone on Wellington was looking forward to a nice, nice 364 00:20:32,133 --> 00:20:34,333 Speaker 2: Saturday Sunday on the on the grass banks of the 365 00:20:34,333 --> 00:20:40,853 Speaker 2: beautiful Basin Gone. I think the black Caps bowlers did 366 00:20:41,173 --> 00:20:45,133 Speaker 2: fantastically well considering they've had so many injuries. And then 367 00:20:45,173 --> 00:20:48,773 Speaker 2: Bleared Ticner goes and blows his shoulder fielding the other day. 368 00:20:50,253 --> 00:20:52,253 Speaker 2: Such a shame because he was he was starting to 369 00:20:52,253 --> 00:20:56,293 Speaker 2: get into his rhythm. I really like watching Jack Jacob Duffy. 370 00:20:56,693 --> 00:21:02,973 Speaker 2: He he is an unlikely looking international cricketer. He not 371 00:21:03,013 --> 00:21:06,533 Speaker 2: an unlikely fast bowler. With his build, but he he's 372 00:21:06,533 --> 00:21:10,653 Speaker 2: a Southlander. He looks like he's just wandered off the farm. 373 00:21:10,693 --> 00:21:13,413 Speaker 2: But he's clearly strong. He bowls at a decent clip 374 00:21:13,533 --> 00:21:17,573 Speaker 2: and he took five wickets in the West Indies second innings. 375 00:21:17,613 --> 00:21:20,813 Speaker 2: He took a five in the first Test. So while 376 00:21:20,893 --> 00:21:23,253 Speaker 2: under Jacob Duffy, he's now after just a few Test 377 00:21:23,293 --> 00:21:27,053 Speaker 2: matches the senior member. Yeah, pretty much of this bowling attack. 378 00:21:27,253 --> 00:21:29,173 Speaker 4: Yeah, and chasing the Fox last night. It's so good 379 00:21:29,173 --> 00:21:30,293 Speaker 4: to see Michael Campbell out there. 380 00:21:30,293 --> 00:21:33,973 Speaker 2: Ah, that was fantastic ye and his shot I think 381 00:21:33,973 --> 00:21:36,773 Speaker 2: it was on the last hole he in the past 382 00:21:36,773 --> 00:21:39,013 Speaker 2: three He almost got a hole on one, as did 383 00:21:39,133 --> 00:21:43,173 Speaker 2: Eric Murray, our old mate. Yeah, he almost sunk it 384 00:21:43,613 --> 00:21:48,413 Speaker 2: with a huge audience watching on TV and a big 385 00:21:48,453 --> 00:21:52,733 Speaker 2: audience at Royal Auckland. That's that's that's that's nerve wracking 386 00:21:52,773 --> 00:21:55,493 Speaker 2: stuff for a lot of these non pro golfers. But 387 00:21:55,613 --> 00:21:57,573 Speaker 2: Eric Murray did very well. Yeah, great to see Michael 388 00:21:57,653 --> 00:22:00,133 Speaker 2: Campbell back in the country. Never loses his touch. And 389 00:22:00,173 --> 00:22:03,653 Speaker 2: I thought Ryan Fox and Daniel Hillier, who've had great years, 390 00:22:03,693 --> 00:22:07,133 Speaker 2: they played well as well. Look not you know, not 391 00:22:07,173 --> 00:22:09,693 Speaker 2: everybody's cover of tea and I'm sure. I'm sure some 392 00:22:09,813 --> 00:22:16,533 Speaker 2: older golfers might look down the It's like the Black Clash. 393 00:22:16,573 --> 00:22:18,333 Speaker 2: I love I love watching the Black Clash and this 394 00:22:18,413 --> 00:22:23,493 Speaker 2: is a similar vein a great, a great evening raising 395 00:22:23,533 --> 00:22:26,373 Speaker 2: money for charity. And it's great to have Ryan Fox 396 00:22:26,413 --> 00:22:28,733 Speaker 2: and his mates back in town, that's for sure. 397 00:22:28,853 --> 00:22:31,853 Speaker 4: David Nika is in the ring in Queensland tonight. 398 00:22:31,933 --> 00:22:32,093 Speaker 5: Right. 399 00:22:33,573 --> 00:22:36,253 Speaker 2: Yeah, he had another step towards us come back to 400 00:22:36,613 --> 00:22:39,493 Speaker 2: getting back into world title contention. He lost in January 401 00:22:39,573 --> 00:22:43,693 Speaker 2: against this Aussie superstar Jai Opataire who's become one of 402 00:22:43,693 --> 00:22:48,493 Speaker 2: the best boxes in the world. So certainly not disgrace 403 00:22:48,573 --> 00:22:51,173 Speaker 2: and winning and losing to to offer tire, but he's 404 00:22:51,253 --> 00:22:53,853 Speaker 2: he's fighting in his adopted hometown, Jack. This is amazing 405 00:22:54,053 --> 00:22:57,053 Speaker 2: now wester of Brisbane, little country town called Gatton. I 406 00:22:57,093 --> 00:23:00,213 Speaker 2: think the population's four thousand. I spoke to him yesterday. 407 00:23:00,253 --> 00:23:03,133 Speaker 2: He said he'll know every face in the crowd. Uh 408 00:23:04,653 --> 00:23:07,173 Speaker 2: later tonight. It's on It's on Tea he too actually 409 00:23:07,173 --> 00:23:09,813 Speaker 2: and on TVNZ Plus if you want to tune in 410 00:23:09,813 --> 00:23:13,653 Speaker 2: and watch them boxing for free. David Niek is such 411 00:23:13,653 --> 00:23:16,893 Speaker 2: a likable bloke and in the background or the forefront 412 00:23:16,933 --> 00:23:19,453 Speaker 2: of his mind, as well as that his fiance was 413 00:23:19,493 --> 00:23:21,733 Speaker 2: diagnosed about a month ago with head and neck cancer. 414 00:23:22,093 --> 00:23:24,693 Speaker 2: So they're going through some real battles at the moment. 415 00:23:25,013 --> 00:23:27,733 Speaker 2: But she wanted him, LEKSI wanted him to continue with 416 00:23:27,813 --> 00:23:30,613 Speaker 2: this fight and then they carry on their own fight 417 00:23:31,133 --> 00:23:35,493 Speaker 2: after tonight in the Queensland town of Gatton. Yeah. 418 00:23:35,573 --> 00:23:38,093 Speaker 4: No, good luck to them. Thanks, sav have a great weekend. 419 00:23:38,333 --> 00:23:41,053 Speaker 4: Catch again very soon, Andrew savil Our Sporto this morning. 420 00:23:41,053 --> 00:23:41,893 Speaker 4: Thank you for your messages. 421 00:23:41,973 --> 00:23:42,133 Speaker 2: Jack. 422 00:23:42,173 --> 00:23:43,853 Speaker 4: A good start when it comes to the social media 423 00:23:43,853 --> 00:23:47,893 Speaker 4: regulation would be to abolish anonymous posting, get rid of 424 00:23:47,973 --> 00:23:50,693 Speaker 4: keyboard warriors, says Scott. I mean, I love that idea 425 00:23:50,733 --> 00:23:53,093 Speaker 4: in theory, Scott. I think it's going to be extremely 426 00:23:53,173 --> 00:23:56,373 Speaker 4: difficult to enforce, but I absolutely love that idea in theory. 427 00:23:56,413 --> 00:23:57,693 Speaker 4: And there are some people who think that you should 428 00:23:57,733 --> 00:24:01,053 Speaker 4: have this kind of regardless of what country you're in, 429 00:24:01,093 --> 00:24:04,173 Speaker 4: you should have a kind of a universal Internet ID 430 00:24:05,133 --> 00:24:08,133 Speaker 4: so that you can always be identified on the Internet. 431 00:24:08,133 --> 00:24:10,173 Speaker 4: I mean, I think some of the some of the 432 00:24:10,173 --> 00:24:14,413 Speaker 4: purists on the Internet would say that that kind of 433 00:24:14,413 --> 00:24:16,613 Speaker 4: flies in the face with the founding principles of the 434 00:24:16,733 --> 00:24:19,493 Speaker 4: entire thing. But that's an interesting idea. Nevertheless, ninety two 435 00:24:19,573 --> 00:24:21,093 Speaker 4: ninety two. If you want to send us a message 436 00:24:21,093 --> 00:24:23,453 Speaker 4: like Scott did, that's our text number this morning. I 437 00:24:23,533 --> 00:24:25,493 Speaker 4: have more of your feedback very shortly. Next up, your 438 00:24:25,533 --> 00:24:28,013 Speaker 4: film picks for this weekend, including a brand new movie 439 00:24:28,093 --> 00:24:31,813 Speaker 4: starring George Clooney and Adam Sandler twenty four to ten. 440 00:24:33,373 --> 00:24:37,413 Speaker 11: It's the most beautiful, some of the Lights, further stress, 441 00:24:37,373 --> 00:24:38,573 Speaker 11: spreading so much. 442 00:24:38,413 --> 00:24:44,373 Speaker 7: To passion, playing in the winter, the under the mission, So. 443 00:24:45,213 --> 00:24:49,453 Speaker 4: I don't twenty two minutes to ten on news sok'. B, 444 00:24:49,613 --> 00:24:52,933 Speaker 4: yes Your spotify algorithm is probably fledding you a whole 445 00:24:52,933 --> 00:24:54,973 Speaker 4: lot of this sort of stuff at the. Moment Your netflix, 446 00:24:55,013 --> 00:24:58,293 Speaker 4: algorithm YOUR tv AND z plus algorithm probably doing the same, 447 00:24:58,333 --> 00:25:00,413 Speaker 4: thing all The christmas movies every. Week time to get 448 00:25:00,413 --> 00:25:03,373 Speaker 4: your film picks for this week, though And Francesca, rudkin 449 00:25:03,453 --> 00:25:07,573 Speaker 4: our movie, reviewer is. Here good morning. Morning are you 450 00:25:07,733 --> 00:25:10,133 Speaker 4: into The christmas? Films is that your sort of? 451 00:25:10,133 --> 00:25:12,173 Speaker 7: THING i, CAN'T i can't do. 452 00:25:12,293 --> 00:25:14,213 Speaker 4: Them, YEAH i, LOOK i know. 453 00:25:14,373 --> 00:25:17,093 Speaker 12: That, yeah LOOK i, might But i've got quite a 454 00:25:17,133 --> 00:25:19,493 Speaker 12: lot of other really good stuff to watch. It because 455 00:25:19,493 --> 00:25:22,613 Speaker 12: we're heading Into Oscar Territory january with there's all these 456 00:25:22,653 --> 00:25:24,573 Speaker 12: amazing films being, released And i'm in the process of 457 00:25:24,653 --> 00:25:27,253 Speaker 12: watching All low's at the, moment AND i can't watch 458 00:25:27,293 --> 00:25:28,813 Speaker 12: the Same christmas film. 459 00:25:28,653 --> 00:25:30,813 Speaker 7: Year after year after year after. Year and then Swimming 460 00:25:30,853 --> 00:25:31,853 Speaker 7: services is just filled with. 461 00:25:32,413 --> 00:25:34,373 Speaker 4: Nonsense well they've sort of worked, out haven't, they that 462 00:25:34,413 --> 00:25:38,333 Speaker 4: there is a market for the, ridiculous like low, budget 463 00:25:38,493 --> 00:25:40,813 Speaker 4: totally silly leads for. Itself if you. 464 00:25:40,893 --> 00:25:41,733 Speaker 7: Love, them go for. 465 00:25:41,773 --> 00:25:43,453 Speaker 12: IT i have a friend who starts at the end 466 00:25:43,453 --> 00:25:45,493 Speaker 12: Of november and every night her and her family watch 467 00:25:45,493 --> 00:25:45,973 Speaker 12: A christmas. 468 00:25:45,973 --> 00:25:46,893 Speaker 5: Movie, wow she. 469 00:25:46,813 --> 00:25:47,893 Speaker 7: Loves, Them so go for. 470 00:25:47,933 --> 00:25:48,333 Speaker 8: It that's what. 471 00:25:48,453 --> 00:25:48,893 Speaker 7: Thing go for? 472 00:25:48,893 --> 00:25:51,413 Speaker 4: It all, right two Non christmasy films for us this, 473 00:25:51,493 --> 00:25:53,893 Speaker 4: morning and let's begin With Jay, Kelly. 474 00:25:53,973 --> 00:25:57,293 Speaker 3: Jay, Kelly So, handsome the last of the old. 475 00:25:57,333 --> 00:26:01,893 Speaker 4: Movies i'm down. Here i'm believe you have A saturday For. 476 00:26:01,973 --> 00:26:03,293 Speaker 7: Paris this is your last. 477 00:26:03,333 --> 00:26:06,093 Speaker 8: Summer it will be so lonely here without. 478 00:26:06,093 --> 00:26:07,333 Speaker 7: You now you're an hour. 479 00:26:07,413 --> 00:26:11,173 Speaker 5: Alone, REALLY i Think i'm always. Alone thanks of. 480 00:26:11,213 --> 00:26:14,493 Speaker 4: One new, one all, Right George clooney And Adam sandler 481 00:26:14,693 --> 00:26:15,413 Speaker 4: see me up on this. 482 00:26:15,413 --> 00:26:18,173 Speaker 12: One, yeah, yeah, Yeah so this Is Noah bomback And 483 00:26:18,253 --> 00:26:22,613 Speaker 12: Emily mortamer have written this, Film noah also. Directs He's 484 00:26:22,653 --> 00:26:25,333 Speaker 12: got To gerberg's. Partner they Wrote barbie And. Things emily 485 00:26:25,373 --> 00:26:26,813 Speaker 12: has a small role in the film as, well But 486 00:26:26,893 --> 00:26:29,893 Speaker 12: George clooney stars and he is pretty much playing. 487 00:26:29,973 --> 00:26:31,333 Speaker 7: Himself he's AN a list. 488 00:26:31,533 --> 00:26:36,413 Speaker 12: Star he's had a remarkable, career and in this film 489 00:26:36,453 --> 00:26:39,853 Speaker 12: he takes a moment to reflect on that career and 490 00:26:39,933 --> 00:26:43,413 Speaker 12: his life and the fact that you know what it 491 00:26:43,453 --> 00:26:46,133 Speaker 12: took to make, it but then just not even make 492 00:26:46,173 --> 00:26:50,133 Speaker 12: it stay there as, well and what he realizes is that, 493 00:26:51,093 --> 00:26:53,573 Speaker 12: yes that's been a huge success and he's done very, 494 00:26:53,573 --> 00:26:55,733 Speaker 12: well but he's kind of lost everything else in his 495 00:26:55,813 --> 00:26:59,653 Speaker 12: life along the. Way he has sort of nothing solid 496 00:26:59,733 --> 00:27:02,333 Speaker 12: left in his personal. Life he's quite a hollowed out. 497 00:27:02,413 --> 00:27:08,733 Speaker 12: Man and he he's got a couple of daughters who 498 00:27:08,733 --> 00:27:10,773 Speaker 12: are now sort of. Adults one is about to head 499 00:27:10,773 --> 00:27:13,893 Speaker 12: off to. College and that's what kind of the empty 500 00:27:13,973 --> 00:27:18,053 Speaker 12: nest is what kind of instigates this self. Reflection he 501 00:27:18,093 --> 00:27:21,493 Speaker 12: always thought he wanted to be a good. Parent he 502 00:27:21,573 --> 00:27:23,853 Speaker 12: thought he could postpone his parenting a bit, though because 503 00:27:23,853 --> 00:27:25,853 Speaker 12: he was always away on, films making films and. Things 504 00:27:26,373 --> 00:27:28,333 Speaker 12: and when it comes round to him, GOING i really 505 00:27:28,373 --> 00:27:31,173 Speaker 12: want to reconnect with my two. Daughters, unfortunately he realizes 506 00:27:31,213 --> 00:27:33,493 Speaker 12: that they don't need him anymore and they don't necessarily 507 00:27:34,133 --> 00:27:36,693 Speaker 12: have the time for him and. Things Adam sandler plays his, 508 00:27:36,773 --> 00:27:39,973 Speaker 12: manager and in a sense he is a very similar 509 00:27:40,013 --> 00:27:43,773 Speaker 12: character in the sense that he is also realizing that 510 00:27:43,893 --> 00:27:48,213 Speaker 12: he has given up his life and a sacrificing time 511 00:27:48,253 --> 00:27:50,773 Speaker 12: with his family all to cater to the whims of one, 512 00:27:50,813 --> 00:27:51,693 Speaker 12: man his, Client. 513 00:27:51,853 --> 00:27:53,933 Speaker 7: Jay so the towil them are kind of in the same. 514 00:27:53,933 --> 00:27:55,933 Speaker 12: Boat and then it's kind of an insider you, know 515 00:27:56,373 --> 00:27:59,253 Speaker 12: in sort of A hollywood insider, film whereby it's that 516 00:27:59,373 --> 00:28:01,693 Speaker 12: question if your manager has been with you and help 517 00:28:01,733 --> 00:28:03,173 Speaker 12: you get to where you want to go for twenty five, 518 00:28:03,253 --> 00:28:05,213 Speaker 12: years are you friends or do you have a working? 519 00:28:05,213 --> 00:28:07,333 Speaker 12: Relationship because you take the ten percent of their? Income 520 00:28:07,493 --> 00:28:10,293 Speaker 12: where the where do the lines? Lie so, look this is. 521 00:28:10,333 --> 00:28:12,773 Speaker 12: Great Both Adam sandler And George clooney are very good 522 00:28:12,773 --> 00:28:16,453 Speaker 12: in this. Film it's beautifully. Shot this is a nice 523 00:28:16,453 --> 00:28:17,493 Speaker 12: little distraction On. 524 00:28:17,533 --> 00:28:20,453 Speaker 4: Netflix yeah, Nice, okay. Cool so that Is Jay. Kelly 525 00:28:20,893 --> 00:28:23,093 Speaker 4: next up is a film showing in. Cinemas it's a. 526 00:28:23,093 --> 00:28:26,413 Speaker 4: Documentary this Is beat The, lotto and. 527 00:28:26,453 --> 00:28:28,773 Speaker 6: We have the man who is the author of this, 528 00:28:28,853 --> 00:28:31,453 Speaker 6: book which is Called win The. 529 00:28:31,573 --> 00:28:34,133 Speaker 4: Lotto you're in the syndicate, yourself aren't? 530 00:28:34,133 --> 00:28:34,213 Speaker 5: You? 531 00:28:34,493 --> 00:28:34,693 Speaker 6: Yes? 532 00:28:34,693 --> 00:28:36,573 Speaker 4: Indeed and how many times did you win the? 533 00:28:36,653 --> 00:28:39,253 Speaker 9: Jackpot, well we haven't won the. 534 00:28:39,293 --> 00:28:41,373 Speaker 4: JACKPOPS i do you want anything? Yet, no. 535 00:28:43,053 --> 00:28:43,933 Speaker 2: Let's just say down. 536 00:28:43,813 --> 00:28:46,013 Speaker 5: In cork everything is possible and of. 537 00:28:45,933 --> 00:28:46,653 Speaker 2: Course the rest is. 538 00:28:46,693 --> 00:28:48,213 Speaker 4: History all, right let's beat the. 539 00:28:48,253 --> 00:28:48,533 Speaker 2: Lotto. 540 00:28:48,933 --> 00:28:52,293 Speaker 12: Okay so this is a rather crazy documentary that tells 541 00:28:52,293 --> 00:28:54,733 Speaker 12: the far fetch story of a syndicate who tried to 542 00:28:54,733 --> 00:28:58,013 Speaker 12: take on the establishment And Game island's national lottery in 543 00:28:58,133 --> 00:29:01,493 Speaker 12: nineteen ninety. Two so when the lotto, began it's a 544 00:29:01,493 --> 00:29:03,533 Speaker 12: bit like us here In New. Zealand Jet it's always 545 00:29:03,533 --> 00:29:08,093 Speaker 12: pitched as anyone could. Win it's the, dream, Right it's 546 00:29:08,133 --> 00:29:11,173 Speaker 12: this big, dream anyone could win it and, things and 547 00:29:11,253 --> 00:29:13,693 Speaker 12: the small time accountant he comes up with this idea 548 00:29:13,733 --> 00:29:15,933 Speaker 12: that he worked out it would cost just under one 549 00:29:16,013 --> 00:29:19,333 Speaker 12: million dollars to buy ticket for every possible combination of 550 00:29:19,333 --> 00:29:20,533 Speaker 12: the six numbers. 551 00:29:20,173 --> 00:29:20,613 Speaker 7: In the lotto. 552 00:29:20,693 --> 00:29:23,493 Speaker 12: Game it was a legal, plan perfectly, legal but it 553 00:29:23,493 --> 00:29:25,093 Speaker 12: would only work if they managed to get all the 554 00:29:25,133 --> 00:29:27,213 Speaker 12: tickets they. Needed and so he convinced this group of 555 00:29:27,333 --> 00:29:29,293 Speaker 12: entrepreneurs and professional gamblers to get on. 556 00:29:29,333 --> 00:29:30,453 Speaker 7: Board and it took them. 557 00:29:30,413 --> 00:29:34,613 Speaker 12: Ten months and eleven million ticks to fill out all 558 00:29:34,653 --> 00:29:35,293 Speaker 12: the lotto. 559 00:29:35,093 --> 00:29:36,333 Speaker 7: Slips you, know to take all the. 560 00:29:36,333 --> 00:29:38,693 Speaker 12: Slips and then they sent all these people off around 561 00:29:38,733 --> 00:29:41,653 Speaker 12: the countryside to try and with these wands of tickets 562 00:29:41,653 --> 00:29:44,253 Speaker 12: to buy the actual lott of tickets and, things and 563 00:29:44,293 --> 00:29:46,333 Speaker 12: so the lottery then go, oh someone's trying to gain 564 00:29:46,373 --> 00:29:47,693 Speaker 12: the system and they're on it and they're, like this is, 565 00:29:47,773 --> 00:29:50,253 Speaker 12: unfair so they try and they shut down terminals in the. 566 00:29:50,253 --> 00:29:54,013 Speaker 12: Base oh and, anyway it's all about it's a really clever, 567 00:29:54,093 --> 00:29:57,533 Speaker 12: plan but had they thought it through? Thoroughly the mass was, 568 00:29:57,573 --> 00:30:00,693 Speaker 12: good but was the execution? Perfect and this is where 569 00:30:00,693 --> 00:30:02,813 Speaker 12: the fun. Begins so this is a film By Ross, 570 00:30:02,813 --> 00:30:05,693 Speaker 12: whitaker and it's filled with a lot of the characters 571 00:30:05,693 --> 00:30:08,213 Speaker 12: who were part of The celeborate, scam as well as 572 00:30:08,293 --> 00:30:10,533 Speaker 12: journalists who covered the story and, things and it just 573 00:30:10,573 --> 00:30:12,813 Speaker 12: takes you back to be very much a particular time and. 574 00:30:12,933 --> 00:30:15,853 Speaker 12: Place and it also made me sort of reminiss about our. Lotto, 575 00:30:16,053 --> 00:30:17,413 Speaker 12: yes how we feel about it as. 576 00:30:17,413 --> 00:30:19,213 Speaker 4: Well it's a good, fun no, nice, okay? Cool so 577 00:30:19,253 --> 00:30:21,653 Speaker 4: that's beat the. Lotto that's a documentary at showing and 578 00:30:21,733 --> 00:30:25,213 Speaker 4: cinemas at the. Moment francesca's first, Film Jay, kelly is 579 00:30:25,213 --> 00:30:27,573 Speaker 4: the one With George clooney And Adam sandler that is 580 00:30:27,613 --> 00:30:29,933 Speaker 4: screening On, netflix and both of those films will of 581 00:30:29,973 --> 00:30:33,533 Speaker 4: course be on The News TALKS heb Website saturday. 582 00:30:33,133 --> 00:30:36,573 Speaker 3: Morning With jack dam keeping the conversation going through the 583 00:30:36,613 --> 00:30:38,013 Speaker 3: weekend The News talks AT. 584 00:30:38,053 --> 00:30:41,053 Speaker 4: B i know it's looking like a pretty good weekend 585 00:30:41,213 --> 00:30:43,373 Speaker 4: for much of the, country but if you are just 586 00:30:43,413 --> 00:30:45,253 Speaker 4: feeling like you want to put your feed, up you 587 00:30:45,373 --> 00:30:47,773 Speaker 4: just want to veg out on the. Couch after ten 588 00:30:47,813 --> 00:30:50,373 Speaker 4: we have our screen time segment where we recommend three 589 00:30:50,373 --> 00:30:52,253 Speaker 4: shows for watching or streaming at, home and we've got 590 00:30:52,293 --> 00:30:55,053 Speaker 4: a new series Of fisk to tell you. About if 591 00:30:55,053 --> 00:30:58,453 Speaker 4: you haven't Seen, Fisk it's so. Good ozzie's really Some 592 00:30:58,613 --> 00:31:01,773 Speaker 4: australian comedy can just be so so. Good it's An 593 00:31:01,773 --> 00:31:07,053 Speaker 4: aussie comedy about a corporate lawyer, who because of very professional, 594 00:31:07,133 --> 00:31:10,853 Speaker 4: things ends up going and joining a kind of suburban law, 595 00:31:10,933 --> 00:31:15,013 Speaker 4: practice doing conveyancing and that kind of. THING i won't 596 00:31:15,013 --> 00:31:16,373 Speaker 4: give too much, away but we'll tell you about the 597 00:31:16,413 --> 00:31:18,413 Speaker 4: new season Of first after ten o'clock in our screen 598 00:31:18,453 --> 00:31:20,493 Speaker 4: time segment this. Morning got another couple of shows to 599 00:31:20,533 --> 00:31:23,013 Speaker 4: recommend as. Well right, now, though time to catch up 600 00:31:23,053 --> 00:31:25,813 Speaker 4: with our, Cook Nicky wex is here this, morning killed, 601 00:31:25,813 --> 00:31:27,413 Speaker 4: her killed. 602 00:31:27,413 --> 00:31:28,213 Speaker 8: Her i'm all About. 603 00:31:28,253 --> 00:31:31,653 Speaker 4: Christmas, Yes, Well SO i made A Butterfly league lamb 604 00:31:31,693 --> 00:31:34,253 Speaker 4: on the barbecue the other. DAY i slightly overcooked. IT 605 00:31:34,533 --> 00:31:36,453 Speaker 4: i did it one of THOSE i, know it's just 606 00:31:36,453 --> 00:31:37,653 Speaker 4: one of those things WHERE i was, like you know, 607 00:31:37,693 --> 00:31:40,373 Speaker 4: what this could have just number two minutes least time 608 00:31:40,413 --> 00:31:42,693 Speaker 4: on you, know JUST i mean it was a bit. 609 00:31:42,733 --> 00:31:45,853 Speaker 4: Tough it wasn't too, tough BUT i just it wasn't 610 00:31:45,893 --> 00:31:48,533 Speaker 4: quite as juicy as it could have been BECAUSE i think. 611 00:31:48,573 --> 00:31:50,973 Speaker 4: IT i, KNOW i know it was really. Frustrating BUT i, 612 00:31:50,973 --> 00:31:54,573 Speaker 4: mean no one explaining about. Myself, yes but the point 613 00:31:54,613 --> 00:31:56,813 Speaker 4: is that A Butterfly league, lamb when done, well is 614 00:31:56,933 --> 00:32:00,853 Speaker 4: so so, good and truth be, told it's actually usually 615 00:32:00,853 --> 00:32:01,613 Speaker 4: pretty easy to do. 616 00:32:01,693 --> 00:32:05,453 Speaker 13: Well it's so easy to do. Well it's so easy 617 00:32:05,493 --> 00:32:07,853 Speaker 13: to get tons of labor into. IT i, MEAN i 618 00:32:07,933 --> 00:32:11,573 Speaker 13: love bone and cooking because that's one. Thing but once 619 00:32:11,573 --> 00:32:13,173 Speaker 13: you take the bone out and then you've got all 620 00:32:13,213 --> 00:32:16,253 Speaker 13: that surface area that you can just jams some flavor 621 00:32:16,293 --> 00:32:19,573 Speaker 13: INTO i love. That so and if you slow cook 622 00:32:19,613 --> 00:32:21,413 Speaker 13: a butterfly leg of, lamb you sort of can't go 623 00:32:21,453 --> 00:32:24,693 Speaker 13: wrong because you're kind of after it really falling, apart because, 624 00:32:24,853 --> 00:32:27,773 Speaker 13: yeah on the, barbecue it can toughen up meat a 625 00:32:27,773 --> 00:32:30,933 Speaker 13: little bit and it's easy to. Overdo about Three christmases, 626 00:32:30,933 --> 00:32:33,733 Speaker 13: AGO i had all these beautiful racks of lamb THAT 627 00:32:33,813 --> 00:32:35,733 Speaker 13: i cooked for my, Family like we were just drowning 628 00:32:35,733 --> 00:32:37,813 Speaker 13: in racks of lamb Because i've given, them which was, 629 00:32:37,853 --> 00:32:42,173 Speaker 13: fantastic AND i undercooked them and so they were just 630 00:32:42,213 --> 00:32:45,293 Speaker 13: a little bit pink and a little bit, chewy and 631 00:32:45,333 --> 00:32:47,453 Speaker 13: it was it was opposite to what you. Need two 632 00:32:47,493 --> 00:32:49,493 Speaker 13: more minutes and we would have been, going this is 633 00:32:49,533 --> 00:32:52,373 Speaker 13: the best thing. Ever so here's my slow cooked lamb. 634 00:32:52,573 --> 00:32:55,693 Speaker 13: Leg it's butterfly and it's. Beautiful you could just use 635 00:32:55,733 --> 00:32:58,013 Speaker 13: the whole bone in if you, like but get your 636 00:32:58,053 --> 00:33:01,333 Speaker 13: butcher to take the bone. Out What i'm also going 637 00:33:01,373 --> 00:33:03,173 Speaker 13: to say to our listeners is lamb is a. Price 638 00:33:03,213 --> 00:33:05,653 Speaker 13: at the, Moment oh my, goodness it's a, price but 639 00:33:05,693 --> 00:33:08,253 Speaker 13: it Is. Christmas this is you, know for Your christmas 640 00:33:08,373 --> 00:33:11,493 Speaker 13: you could use A butterfli chicken for. This i'm also 641 00:33:11,533 --> 00:33:13,893 Speaker 13: going to suggest that you could use three or four 642 00:33:13,933 --> 00:33:16,453 Speaker 13: eggplants if you're going the vegetarian, way And i'll give 643 00:33:16,493 --> 00:33:18,413 Speaker 13: you a few little tips and tricks along the way for. 644 00:33:18,453 --> 00:33:20,933 Speaker 13: Those SO i lay my lamb leg out and make 645 00:33:21,013 --> 00:33:24,653 Speaker 13: some small little slits in. It this extra little step is, 646 00:33:24,653 --> 00:33:27,213 Speaker 13: great AND i wanted you to slip in little slivers 647 00:33:27,533 --> 00:33:30,653 Speaker 13: of garlic in to. There it's a tiny bit of extra, 648 00:33:30,693 --> 00:33:34,453 Speaker 13: effort but the flavor award is absolutely. Enormous and then 649 00:33:34,533 --> 00:33:36,573 Speaker 13: in a small, bowl you're gonna whisp feed all these 650 00:33:36,613 --> 00:33:38,133 Speaker 13: flavors zest. 651 00:33:37,893 --> 00:33:39,573 Speaker 3: And juice of one, orange. 652 00:33:39,333 --> 00:33:43,653 Speaker 13: Two tablespoons of olive, oil two tablespoons of, honey one big, 653 00:33:43,693 --> 00:33:47,373 Speaker 13: teaspoon a tablespoon Of dijon, mustard and then a teaspoon 654 00:33:47,453 --> 00:33:52,013 Speaker 13: each jack of ground, cumin ground, coriander and Smoked paprikas 655 00:33:52,053 --> 00:33:54,813 Speaker 13: you've got these beautiful flavors going, on and a good 656 00:33:54,853 --> 00:33:58,013 Speaker 13: heaped teaspoon of flaky sea salt is a great, idea 657 00:33:58,133 --> 00:34:02,133 Speaker 13: and some freshly ground black black. PEPPER i throw in 658 00:34:02,173 --> 00:34:03,933 Speaker 13: a little bit of rosemy there as a sort of 659 00:34:03,933 --> 00:34:06,773 Speaker 13: an ode to our lamb as, well BECAUSE i can't, 660 00:34:06,773 --> 00:34:08,893 Speaker 13: Resist and so pour that all over the land and 661 00:34:08,933 --> 00:34:11,533 Speaker 13: give it a really good message into every kind of 662 00:34:11,573 --> 00:34:14,013 Speaker 13: nook and cranny that you. Can if you've got time 663 00:34:14,053 --> 00:34:16,413 Speaker 13: to marinate it, overnight great or for a few, hours. 664 00:34:16,493 --> 00:34:20,213 Speaker 13: Fantastic if you, haven't, well them's the. Brakes so oven 665 00:34:20,253 --> 00:34:24,093 Speaker 13: goes on about one sixty one seventy nestle lamb into 666 00:34:24,093 --> 00:34:26,053 Speaker 13: a roasting, dish and THEN i pour over any of 667 00:34:26,053 --> 00:34:29,213 Speaker 13: that left over, marinate and then add in about it 668 00:34:29,293 --> 00:34:31,853 Speaker 13: one cup of stock and half a cup of white. 669 00:34:31,933 --> 00:34:34,133 Speaker 13: Wine you could delete the wine if you like and 670 00:34:34,213 --> 00:34:36,173 Speaker 13: use a little bit more. Stock and then what you 671 00:34:36,213 --> 00:34:38,973 Speaker 13: want to do is put a double laugh oiel over 672 00:34:39,013 --> 00:34:42,453 Speaker 13: this so it's really really, tight so nothing's escaping out of, 673 00:34:42,453 --> 00:34:44,973 Speaker 13: there no steam or. Anything this is the trick to 674 00:34:45,013 --> 00:34:48,893 Speaker 13: getting it really meltingly. Tender slide it into the oven 675 00:34:49,413 --> 00:34:52,293 Speaker 13: and braise it for about two and a half. HOURS i, 676 00:34:52,373 --> 00:34:54,533 Speaker 13: know hot summer's day In New, zealand but why. Not 677 00:34:54,893 --> 00:34:57,333 Speaker 13: if you're using a, chicken you can do everything That 678 00:34:57,373 --> 00:34:59,613 Speaker 13: i've just told, You but maybe we're looking at one 679 00:34:59,653 --> 00:35:02,773 Speaker 13: and a half, hours and if you're using, Eggplant i'd 680 00:35:02,773 --> 00:35:04,573 Speaker 13: probably go one and a half hours as, well ex 681 00:35:04,893 --> 00:35:08,533 Speaker 13: because we want that melting all, right check it halfway 682 00:35:08,533 --> 00:35:10,653 Speaker 13: through possibly see if you need to sneak the stink 683 00:35:10,693 --> 00:35:12,973 Speaker 13: in a little bit more liquid into the. Base USUALLY i. 684 00:35:13,013 --> 00:35:16,533 Speaker 13: Don't and then once it's soft and, lovely remove that 685 00:35:16,973 --> 00:35:19,853 Speaker 13: and remove the. Foil drain off some of the. Juices 686 00:35:19,853 --> 00:35:21,973 Speaker 13: you're going to use those in a. Minute increase the 687 00:35:22,013 --> 00:35:25,733 Speaker 13: oven temperature to about two hundred degrees, celsius and then 688 00:35:25,773 --> 00:35:27,453 Speaker 13: return the dish in, there because you want it a 689 00:35:27,453 --> 00:35:30,373 Speaker 13: bit brown and crispy on the. Edges that's kind of 690 00:35:30,373 --> 00:35:32,893 Speaker 13: what we're. After and then here's the gig that turns 691 00:35:32,933 --> 00:35:35,013 Speaker 13: it into The christmas. Thing you're going to pull it 692 00:35:35,013 --> 00:35:38,053 Speaker 13: apart into big, chunks slice it if you, can but you, 693 00:35:38,053 --> 00:35:40,493 Speaker 13: know really we're just looking at a big pull apart. 694 00:35:40,533 --> 00:35:44,413 Speaker 13: Here put those pan juices into a roasting into the roasting, 695 00:35:44,453 --> 00:35:49,573 Speaker 13: dish good, heat tablespoon of flour in there with some soft, 696 00:35:49,653 --> 00:35:52,573 Speaker 13: butter and then just make that into a little. Gravy 697 00:35:52,693 --> 00:35:55,093 Speaker 13: it's just similar away until it's all. Thickened and then 698 00:35:55,133 --> 00:35:57,653 Speaker 13: to serve, it we're piling it onto a. Platter we're 699 00:35:57,693 --> 00:36:01,413 Speaker 13: scattering over either some cherry tomatoes or some pomegranate. 700 00:36:01,493 --> 00:36:02,653 Speaker 8: Seeds we want some red in. 701 00:36:02,693 --> 00:36:06,013 Speaker 13: There, hello It's. Christmas lots of mint, leaves lots of chopped, 702 00:36:06,053 --> 00:36:10,573 Speaker 13: parts a final grade of orange zest in, there serve 703 00:36:10,613 --> 00:36:12,973 Speaker 13: the gravy on the, side and the colors in the 704 00:36:12,973 --> 00:36:15,973 Speaker 13: flavor Of this is Just christmas all, round and AS i, 705 00:36:16,013 --> 00:36:19,613 Speaker 13: say it will look and taste just as. Delicious if 706 00:36:19,813 --> 00:36:23,693 Speaker 13: lamb is beyond you'll reach this summer This. Christmas then 707 00:36:23,733 --> 00:36:26,373 Speaker 13: you can use a beautiful butterfly. Chicken or you could 708 00:36:26,413 --> 00:36:30,613 Speaker 13: take three or four, eggplants slice them length ways, down 709 00:36:30,693 --> 00:36:32,613 Speaker 13: leaving them attached at one end and sort of fan 710 00:36:32,773 --> 00:36:34,973 Speaker 13: them out and that way you get all that marinate in. 711 00:36:35,013 --> 00:36:35,573 Speaker 14: There so there you. 712 00:36:35,613 --> 00:36:38,533 Speaker 13: GO i think this is going to be a centerpiece 713 00:36:38,573 --> 00:36:41,973 Speaker 13: For christmas that you'll. Love, yeah and so to under 714 00:36:42,093 --> 00:36:44,133 Speaker 13: or overcook it like you AND i approach you. 715 00:36:44,213 --> 00:36:48,733 Speaker 4: OBVIOUSLY i don't want to give too much. Away but next, 716 00:36:48,773 --> 00:36:51,053 Speaker 4: week you think if our Final saturday morning to. 717 00:36:52,933 --> 00:36:55,013 Speaker 13: It Is and, look next week we're going to do 718 00:36:55,053 --> 00:36:56,133 Speaker 13: the grand, finale the. 719 00:36:56,133 --> 00:36:59,933 Speaker 4: Desserts and if. 720 00:36:59,813 --> 00:37:01,653 Speaker 13: Anyone wants to have a look at the canvas in 721 00:37:01,693 --> 00:37:04,453 Speaker 13: The herald, TODAY i have got a trifle in, there 722 00:37:04,933 --> 00:37:07,173 Speaker 13: AND i have got a. Pavlover i've got something different 723 00:37:07,213 --> 00:37:09,613 Speaker 13: for you obviously next, week but that'll get. You that'll 724 00:37:09,613 --> 00:37:10,733 Speaker 13: get your started to this. 725 00:37:10,813 --> 00:37:11,853 Speaker 8: Week so there you. 726 00:37:11,933 --> 00:37:14,373 Speaker 4: Go oh so, Good thank, You. NICK i Love christmas. 727 00:37:14,453 --> 00:37:17,173 Speaker 4: Dinners yeah, Yeah i'll look forward to next week to 728 00:37:17,293 --> 00:37:18,973 Speaker 4: that sounds. Amazing thank. You we're going to make sure 729 00:37:19,013 --> 00:37:22,173 Speaker 4: that recipe for the slow cook butterfly lamb legs slash 730 00:37:22,253 --> 00:37:25,013 Speaker 4: chicken slash eggplant is up on The News talks He'd 731 00:37:25,013 --> 00:37:27,173 Speaker 4: be website so you can cook along at home as. 732 00:37:27,173 --> 00:37:28,773 Speaker 4: Well right, now it's seven to, ten. 733 00:37:29,733 --> 00:37:32,733 Speaker 3: Giving you the inside scoop on all you need to 734 00:37:32,773 --> 00:37:36,613 Speaker 3: Know Saturday morning With Jack Team News talks D Be. 735 00:37:39,093 --> 00:37:41,973 Speaker 4: Jack Says Kevin Merry. CHRISTMAS i think the government is 736 00:37:42,013 --> 00:37:44,413 Speaker 4: going a step too far and sticking their noses into 737 00:37:44,453 --> 00:37:46,893 Speaker 4: what should be parents'. Jobs when it comes to social. 738 00:37:46,933 --> 00:37:50,173 Speaker 4: Media parents, job a pearents job is to look after 739 00:37:50,213 --> 00:37:53,493 Speaker 4: their own. Kids what kids can watch or do should 740 00:37:53,533 --> 00:37:56,453 Speaker 4: be up to parents. Alone i'm seventy five years, old seven, 741 00:37:56,533 --> 00:37:59,653 Speaker 4: daughters nineteen, grandkids an ever increasing number of, greats AND 742 00:37:59,693 --> 00:38:02,693 Speaker 4: i will take full responsibility for their. Upbringing thank you very, 743 00:38:02,773 --> 00:38:05,533 Speaker 4: much not a bunch of clowns and. Legislators thank you for, That. 744 00:38:05,613 --> 00:38:09,373 Speaker 4: Kevin regarding the social media band so, read it is 745 00:38:09,413 --> 00:38:11,613 Speaker 4: one of the ten sites In australia that has been, 746 00:38:11,613 --> 00:38:14,533 Speaker 4: banned also ten platforms In australia that's been. Banned it's 747 00:38:14,533 --> 00:38:16,013 Speaker 4: one THAT i use and WHEN i saw that it 748 00:38:16,053 --> 00:38:18,733 Speaker 4: was on the initial, LIST i did think this sort 749 00:38:18,733 --> 00:38:21,413 Speaker 4: of doesn't feel like some of the. Others so we're 750 00:38:21,413 --> 00:38:22,893 Speaker 4: going to tell you a bit more after ten o'clock 751 00:38:22,933 --> 00:38:26,493 Speaker 4: about the arguments read it is bringing to try and 752 00:38:26,533 --> 00:38:29,493 Speaker 4: get its ban. Overturned our textber it's going to be 753 00:38:29,493 --> 00:38:32,493 Speaker 4: with us as well as that our feature interview right 754 00:38:32,573 --> 00:38:36,013 Speaker 4: after the ten o'clock. News, Ah i'm really looking forward to. 755 00:38:36,093 --> 00:38:38,773 Speaker 4: This he is the star Of Jonathan, creek that's sort 756 00:38:38,773 --> 00:38:42,613 Speaker 4: of hit where he his first big mainstream international. Break 757 00:38:43,053 --> 00:38:46,733 Speaker 4: you'll know him from many series OF qi in THE 758 00:38:46,813 --> 00:38:49,453 Speaker 4: uk as. Well Alan davis is going to be with. 759 00:38:49,533 --> 00:38:52,373 Speaker 4: Us he is about to Tour australia And New zealand 760 00:38:52,493 --> 00:38:54,733 Speaker 4: with his first stand up show in, years so he'll 761 00:38:54,773 --> 00:38:56,773 Speaker 4: be with us. Shortly news is next though it is 762 00:38:56,813 --> 00:38:59,373 Speaker 4: almost ten o'clock This saturday. Morning I'm Jack. Tayman this 763 00:38:59,693 --> 00:39:04,053 Speaker 4: Is news tog Zedby Cowbarleam, Cowboy how. 764 00:39:05,573 --> 00:39:10,573 Speaker 3: Oh craig start Your Saturday saturday morning With Jack Tame Youth. 765 00:39:10,613 --> 00:39:37,293 Speaker 4: Talks that'd Be, yoda you were A jackdame On, newstalks 766 00:39:37,333 --> 00:39:41,013 Speaker 4: that'd Be This Saturday, morning our second to Last Saturday 767 00:39:41,053 --> 00:39:45,493 Speaker 4: morning together of twenty twenty. Five Comedian Alan davis is 768 00:39:45,613 --> 00:39:48,253 Speaker 4: known for his No one and BELOVED i should say 769 00:39:48,253 --> 00:39:53,573 Speaker 4: No one in beloved for his, natural relatable storytelling style 770 00:39:53,733 --> 00:39:57,853 Speaker 4: and skills on all sorts of different FORMATS, tv on 771 00:39:58,053 --> 00:40:00,933 Speaker 4: the page and on. Stage and while he's always been 772 00:40:00,973 --> 00:40:04,373 Speaker 4: a bit of a staple Of british television shows LIKE 773 00:40:05,093 --> 00:40:08,013 Speaker 4: qi And Jonathan, greek it's been more than a decade 774 00:40:08,093 --> 00:40:11,413 Speaker 4: Since ellen last did a stand up comedy, tour that 775 00:40:11,573 --> 00:40:15,453 Speaker 4: is until, now and While New zealand didn't make the 776 00:40:15,493 --> 00:40:18,653 Speaker 4: first cut of tour, Dates ellen has decided that actually 777 00:40:18,693 --> 00:40:21,053 Speaker 4: he just cannot stay away from our. Shows he is 778 00:40:21,093 --> 00:40:23,373 Speaker 4: going to bring his show Down under and he's with 779 00:40:23,453 --> 00:40:25,853 Speaker 4: us this. Morning held a good. Morning. 780 00:40:26,773 --> 00:40:27,973 Speaker 5: Hello how are you. 781 00:40:28,013 --> 00:40:30,853 Speaker 4: Doing i'm very very, well thank, you delighted to be 782 00:40:30,893 --> 00:40:34,733 Speaker 4: speaking with, you longtime. FAN i feel LIKE i grew 783 00:40:34,853 --> 00:40:37,613 Speaker 4: up with the sounds Of Jonathan creek just kind of 784 00:40:38,453 --> 00:40:43,093 Speaker 4: emanating throughout my, household and moved from that on TO 785 00:40:43,213 --> 00:40:45,533 Speaker 4: qi and various other. Things so it is a great 786 00:40:45,573 --> 00:40:46,533 Speaker 4: pleasure to be speaking with. 787 00:40:46,573 --> 00:40:49,733 Speaker 5: You thank. You could be, worse could be worse Than Jonathan. 788 00:40:49,773 --> 00:40:54,253 Speaker 5: Creek you know the theme tune mate The san, Songs Dance. 789 00:40:54,373 --> 00:40:57,013 Speaker 5: Macabroo there's kind of a version of. It it's such 790 00:40:57,013 --> 00:41:01,053 Speaker 5: a brilliant theme, tune and PEOPLE i know have often 791 00:41:01,093 --> 00:41:02,613 Speaker 5: said to, me Oh god as soon as the music, 792 00:41:02,613 --> 00:41:06,333 Speaker 5: starts you. Know BUT i did once catch myself humming 793 00:41:06,813 --> 00:41:08,933 Speaker 5: the theme tune AS i was walking down the street 794 00:41:08,933 --> 00:41:11,693 Speaker 5: and wandering into the, shop AND i had to kind 795 00:41:11,693 --> 00:41:18,013 Speaker 5: of stop, myself realizing that people were turning, heads probably, thinking, 796 00:41:18,293 --> 00:41:21,333 Speaker 5: oh look at this idiot just advertising his. 797 00:41:21,453 --> 00:41:26,453 Speaker 4: Presence he thinks he thinks it's his theme music rather 798 00:41:26,533 --> 00:41:27,853 Speaker 4: than the theme music for the show. 799 00:41:27,893 --> 00:41:30,653 Speaker 5: Itself it's the star of his own, life and he 800 00:41:30,773 --> 00:41:33,373 Speaker 5: Is Jonathan. Creek but, yeah there are worse things you 801 00:41:33,373 --> 00:41:34,493 Speaker 5: could have emanating through your. 802 00:41:34,493 --> 00:41:37,053 Speaker 4: Half it's not not only a great, song it's a 803 00:41:37,093 --> 00:41:39,253 Speaker 4: Great don't you think it's a great name for a 804 00:41:39,293 --> 00:41:41,773 Speaker 4: piece like would dance My car would be as good 805 00:41:41,773 --> 00:41:43,733 Speaker 4: if it wasn't Called Dance? MACABRA i don't. 806 00:41:43,733 --> 00:41:48,253 Speaker 5: Know, well, yeah it's it needs an animated. 807 00:41:48,333 --> 00:41:52,173 Speaker 4: Video it's ten years ellen since your last. TOUR i, 808 00:41:52,173 --> 00:41:54,333 Speaker 4: know you were a you're a busy, man but, well 809 00:41:54,413 --> 00:41:57,653 Speaker 4: why was now the right time to get back on 810 00:41:57,813 --> 00:42:00,493 Speaker 4: stage and tour with a Special. 811 00:42:01,293 --> 00:42:04,173 Speaker 5: Well i'm glad to report it has turned out to 812 00:42:04,173 --> 00:42:07,253 Speaker 5: be the right time because the show's been pretty. Well 813 00:42:08,733 --> 00:42:10,893 Speaker 5: it had been so long with it was feeling beginning 814 00:42:10,893 --> 00:42:13,773 Speaker 5: to feel like a. GAMBLE i don't really. KNOW i 815 00:42:13,813 --> 00:42:15,773 Speaker 5: wrote a book a few years. Ago we had a 816 00:42:15,813 --> 00:42:20,013 Speaker 5: third child in twenty, fifteen there was a. Pandemic there 817 00:42:20,013 --> 00:42:24,013 Speaker 5: were a few things that, combined BUT i think REALLY 818 00:42:24,133 --> 00:42:31,573 Speaker 5: i spent some time unpacking stuff from my childhood writing about, 819 00:42:31,613 --> 00:42:36,893 Speaker 5: it and that process took a while and changed a 820 00:42:36,893 --> 00:42:40,213 Speaker 5: lot of HOW i viewed myself and WHAT i wanted 821 00:42:40,213 --> 00:42:45,253 Speaker 5: to do and WHAT i wanted to. Say and this recent, 822 00:42:45,333 --> 00:42:49,373 Speaker 5: Show Think, ahead it was kind of created around the 823 00:42:49,413 --> 00:42:52,173 Speaker 5: same time AS i was writing another volume of memoir 824 00:42:52,213 --> 00:42:54,693 Speaker 5: Called White Male Stand, up which is about dealing with 825 00:42:55,173 --> 00:42:57,693 Speaker 5: issues from my childhood in my career and in my 826 00:42:57,733 --> 00:43:01,453 Speaker 5: adult life or not dealing with, them and so some 827 00:43:01,533 --> 00:43:03,653 Speaker 5: of it draws on some of that. Stuff so though 828 00:43:03,653 --> 00:43:09,093 Speaker 5: it's maybe difficult, material BUT i Feel i'm able to 829 00:43:09,213 --> 00:43:13,773 Speaker 5: access it and created the. Show at all my stand 830 00:43:13,813 --> 00:43:17,573 Speaker 5: up shows have created conjunction with audiences working on material 831 00:43:17,653 --> 00:43:20,493 Speaker 5: in that, way And i've got to a place now 832 00:43:20,533 --> 00:43:22,453 Speaker 5: WHERE i think the show is really Quite so it's 833 00:43:22,453 --> 00:43:25,413 Speaker 5: a bit richer and deeper and better than Stuff i've done, 834 00:43:25,413 --> 00:43:29,693 Speaker 5: before and it's quite, relatable and So i'm really sort 835 00:43:29,733 --> 00:43:32,173 Speaker 5: of proud of. It i'm Not i've always been pleased 836 00:43:32,173 --> 00:43:35,533 Speaker 5: to make people, laugh BUT i haven't really previously looked 837 00:43:35,533 --> 00:43:38,053 Speaker 5: at my material, thinking, Oh i'm really proud of that's 838 00:43:38,053 --> 00:43:41,373 Speaker 5: tasking hutch, routine you. Know but NOW i feel Like 839 00:43:41,413 --> 00:43:44,693 Speaker 5: i'm in a better place to you, know have something 840 00:43:44,773 --> 00:43:48,213 Speaker 5: to say and have a reason to be up. There so. 841 00:43:49,933 --> 00:43:53,893 Speaker 4: Do you feel that you are as well as as 842 00:43:53,893 --> 00:43:56,613 Speaker 4: well as entertaining audiences and making people, laugh do you 843 00:43:56,653 --> 00:43:59,733 Speaker 4: feel like there is a kind of deeper driving purpose 844 00:44:00,173 --> 00:44:03,213 Speaker 4: behind the show and that you have something to, say 845 00:44:03,213 --> 00:44:05,933 Speaker 4: there is a message you want to. Give, YEAH i think. 846 00:44:06,013 --> 00:44:09,253 Speaker 5: SO i mean the goal is still ultimately is to 847 00:44:09,253 --> 00:44:11,493 Speaker 5: make people laugh as much AS i possibly, can AND 848 00:44:11,533 --> 00:44:13,893 Speaker 5: i think of that as my job as a. COMEDIAN 849 00:44:14,853 --> 00:44:16,893 Speaker 5: i don't just want to be. ENGAGING i want to be, 850 00:44:16,973 --> 00:44:20,933 Speaker 5: hilarious and that's WHY i set out to. Do and you, 851 00:44:20,973 --> 00:44:26,133 Speaker 5: know there are some good bits it is. Nice after the, 852 00:44:26,173 --> 00:44:29,413 Speaker 5: SHOW i quite often take the chance to sign a 853 00:44:29,413 --> 00:44:34,733 Speaker 5: few books and meet some of the audiencing people are, saying, 854 00:44:34,933 --> 00:44:37,133 Speaker 5: oh and the stuff you're talking, about by the, way 855 00:44:37,453 --> 00:44:39,533 Speaker 5: similar thing happened to, me or something happened to a 856 00:44:39,533 --> 00:44:42,293 Speaker 5: friend of, mine or it's you, know it's good that 857 00:44:42,773 --> 00:44:47,493 Speaker 5: this stuff can be aired and you, know let's not you, 858 00:44:47,533 --> 00:44:51,013 Speaker 5: know carry the shame forever kind of. Thing so the 859 00:44:51,053 --> 00:44:54,533 Speaker 5: feedback is really, GOOD feedbackx really positive both on content 860 00:44:54,653 --> 00:44:57,613 Speaker 5: and on laugh. Strike so it's kind of right. 861 00:44:58,173 --> 00:45:00,453 Speaker 4: Just to be totally, clear And i'm not going to 862 00:45:00,453 --> 00:45:02,133 Speaker 4: ask you to go into all of the details, now 863 00:45:02,173 --> 00:45:06,333 Speaker 4: but you're, right, really you, KNOW i think really move 864 00:45:06,693 --> 00:45:10,293 Speaker 4: about it your experiences in your memoir about your experiences 865 00:45:10,373 --> 00:45:15,813 Speaker 4: of childhood, abuse and it's the same content that you 866 00:45:15,893 --> 00:45:19,973 Speaker 4: are touching on at times during your during your. Special 867 00:45:20,213 --> 00:45:22,213 Speaker 4: but how do you think about that kind of narrative. 868 00:45:22,293 --> 00:45:25,613 Speaker 4: Weave is there is there a risk for one of 869 00:45:25,653 --> 00:45:28,933 Speaker 4: a better, word when you're talking about that kind of material, 870 00:45:28,973 --> 00:45:31,853 Speaker 4: publicly that it's very hard to get the audience back 871 00:45:31,893 --> 00:45:32,893 Speaker 4: in a laughing frame of. 872 00:45:32,933 --> 00:45:38,773 Speaker 5: Mind well that's the. Test there's sort of challenge for. 873 00:45:38,893 --> 00:45:42,533 Speaker 5: Me and you, know WHEN i say to the audience 874 00:45:42,893 --> 00:45:45,213 Speaker 5: WHEN i had talked to them about having my father 875 00:45:45,533 --> 00:45:50,213 Speaker 5: arrested for historical sexual, ABUSE i, Said i've never talked 876 00:45:50,213 --> 00:45:52,613 Speaker 5: about this on stage before BECAUSE i was always afraid 877 00:45:52,613 --> 00:45:56,413 Speaker 5: of exactly this, silence because there's always you can guarantee 878 00:45:56,773 --> 00:46:00,253 Speaker 5: a pin drop silence at that which comes as a 879 00:46:00,413 --> 00:46:03,293 Speaker 5: total revelation to the majority of the people in the. 880 00:46:03,533 --> 00:46:07,293 Speaker 5: Room and THEN i talked to them about perhaps feeling 881 00:46:07,333 --> 00:46:09,373 Speaker 5: less like an audience and more like they're in a hostage, 882 00:46:09,413 --> 00:46:13,853 Speaker 5: situation but not to, fear not here to make you, 883 00:46:14,013 --> 00:46:17,493 Speaker 5: uncomfortable here to just we're going to spend a bit 884 00:46:17,533 --> 00:46:22,093 Speaker 5: of time on this. Area the response has been really. 885 00:46:22,093 --> 00:46:27,413 Speaker 5: Good people have just engaged and people my experience of comedy. 886 00:46:27,453 --> 00:46:30,013 Speaker 5: Aunts and then these people aren't, idiots you. Know these 887 00:46:30,053 --> 00:46:33,213 Speaker 5: people have got lives of their, own experiences of their. 888 00:46:33,253 --> 00:46:35,773 Speaker 5: Own either they've been through things, themselves or they have 889 00:46:35,813 --> 00:46:39,533 Speaker 5: friends who have or partners or. Spouses this stuff's in the, 890 00:46:39,573 --> 00:46:43,293 Speaker 5: world and just the same as parenting, is or illness 891 00:46:44,133 --> 00:46:46,693 Speaker 5: or lean heavily on this and the second half of 892 00:46:46,733 --> 00:46:50,533 Speaker 5: the show erectile. Dysfunction these are all the issues of our. 893 00:46:50,613 --> 00:46:57,773 Speaker 4: Time, YEAH i was taken aback a little bit by 894 00:46:57,813 --> 00:47:00,573 Speaker 4: your dates of your, tour, right SO i noticed something 895 00:47:00,613 --> 00:47:02,933 Speaker 4: and the tour dates this, Year, ellen and that you 896 00:47:03,053 --> 00:47:05,813 Speaker 4: are Touring australia over the summer and then you've got 897 00:47:05,813 --> 00:47:07,333 Speaker 4: a little bit of a break and you're coming back 898 00:47:07,373 --> 00:47:10,293 Speaker 4: To New zealand in the middle of next. Year AND 899 00:47:10,333 --> 00:47:12,493 Speaker 4: i did think it was a curious coincident that your 900 00:47:12,613 --> 00:47:15,573 Speaker 4: dates In australia seemed to coincide rather. NEATLY i, thought 901 00:47:15,613 --> 00:47:17,853 Speaker 4: with The, ashes are you a cricket are you a 902 00:47:17,853 --> 00:47:18,933 Speaker 4: cricket fan? Manager at? 903 00:47:19,613 --> 00:47:21,853 Speaker 5: WELL i think that was very. FORTUNATE i, mean what 904 00:47:21,893 --> 00:47:23,293 Speaker 5: a happy accident. 905 00:47:27,173 --> 00:47:27,253 Speaker 13: Is? 906 00:47:27,253 --> 00:47:28,533 Speaker 4: That is that part of the Plan. 907 00:47:28,933 --> 00:47:31,293 Speaker 5: I'm going to take in a couple of, days a 908 00:47:31,373 --> 00:47:33,333 Speaker 5: couple of Day i've got a day of the j. 909 00:47:34,453 --> 00:47:37,333 Speaker 4: Booked oh how special for the boxing. 910 00:47:37,133 --> 00:47:41,133 Speaker 5: Day for the twenty. EIGHTH i think it, is oh. 911 00:47:41,173 --> 00:47:44,933 Speaker 5: Wow BUT i tried to go to The ashes In 912 00:47:44,973 --> 00:47:48,333 Speaker 5: melbourne years ago AND i booked tickets for day four 913 00:47:48,813 --> 00:47:53,773 Speaker 5: And england had been done buy an innings in three 914 00:47:53,853 --> 00:47:58,373 Speaker 5: days and so this TIME i booked for day. Three 915 00:47:58,613 --> 00:47:59,533 Speaker 5: i'm hoping for some. 916 00:47:59,613 --> 00:48:04,733 Speaker 4: Cricket how do you feel about, bearsball because we feel 917 00:48:04,733 --> 00:48:07,493 Speaker 4: a sort of In New. Zealand we feel a connection 918 00:48:07,613 --> 00:48:10,453 Speaker 4: to The english style of game at the. Moment and 919 00:48:10,493 --> 00:48:15,093 Speaker 4: then Obviously brendan McCallum as the. Coach Tim Southy New 920 00:48:15,213 --> 00:48:18,693 Speaker 4: Zealand great is also offering his. Assistance there are various 921 00:48:18,733 --> 00:48:22,533 Speaker 4: Other New, zealanders all sort of plotting throughout the team's coaching. 922 00:48:22,613 --> 00:48:26,013 Speaker 4: Organization how do you feel About bears ball and, Principle. 923 00:48:28,333 --> 00:48:32,933 Speaker 5: WELL i find it fascinating. REALLY i remember Hearing Andy 924 00:48:33,013 --> 00:48:35,893 Speaker 5: murray talk about playing, tennis and he said when he was, 925 00:48:35,973 --> 00:48:39,133 Speaker 5: young if you just get the ball in, play we 926 00:48:39,293 --> 00:48:42,493 Speaker 5: wait for the other guy to make a. Mistake usually you. 927 00:48:42,573 --> 00:48:46,093 Speaker 5: Win you make less mistakes than the other. Player usually you, 928 00:48:46,133 --> 00:48:47,973 Speaker 5: win and then you get into the top one hundred 929 00:48:48,053 --> 00:48:51,573 Speaker 5: or the top, fifty and the other guy doesn't make any. Mistakes, 930 00:48:51,773 --> 00:48:54,693 Speaker 5: yeah and if you want to beat, him you've got 931 00:48:54,733 --> 00:48:57,293 Speaker 5: to go for your. Shots you've got to, play you've 932 00:48:57,333 --> 00:49:00,053 Speaker 5: got to show what you've. Got who's the better? Player, 933 00:49:00,093 --> 00:49:03,893 Speaker 5: Actually and that's WHY i, feel you, Know Ben stokes 934 00:49:03,933 --> 00:49:07,053 Speaker 5: is leading a team that has a bit of that about. Them, 935 00:49:07,093 --> 00:49:10,893 Speaker 5: Okay i'm going To i'm going to hit you as 936 00:49:10,893 --> 00:49:14,413 Speaker 5: hard AS i, can often be, afraid and it's about 937 00:49:14,493 --> 00:49:17,493 Speaker 5: getting getting on the front foot and being. Aggressive and 938 00:49:17,533 --> 00:49:20,653 Speaker 5: it's when it goes wrong when you lose your, wicket 939 00:49:21,613 --> 00:49:23,773 Speaker 5: when you've gone after a ball and lost your wicket 940 00:49:23,853 --> 00:49:26,613 Speaker 5: cheap and you can only be out. Once it's cricket 941 00:49:26,653 --> 00:49:30,053 Speaker 5: remains the. Same don't get out is a very important 942 00:49:30,333 --> 00:49:33,893 Speaker 5: part of. It but the principle behind it about getting 943 00:49:33,893 --> 00:49:38,093 Speaker 5: on the front, foot scoring, quickly being. Aggressive it's filling, 944 00:49:38,213 --> 00:49:44,053 Speaker 5: stadiums it's getting people, watching and you, KNOW i love watching. 945 00:49:44,053 --> 00:49:48,613 Speaker 5: Them stokes of course is it's a superstar of, sport 946 00:49:48,733 --> 00:49:51,933 Speaker 5: not just. Cricket AND i really really hope he's fit 947 00:49:52,013 --> 00:49:56,093 Speaker 5: because you, know he breaks quite. Often it's like a 948 00:49:56,213 --> 00:49:59,893 Speaker 5: kind of A formula one. Car everything's so, fragile it's 949 00:49:59,893 --> 00:50:01,253 Speaker 5: so highly tuned. 950 00:50:04,253 --> 00:50:04,493 Speaker 4: As a. 951 00:50:04,533 --> 00:50:08,293 Speaker 5: Part it's not this is not a Land. Rover this 952 00:50:08,333 --> 00:50:12,973 Speaker 5: is a high performance. Machine but, Yeah i'm looking forward 953 00:50:12,973 --> 00:50:16,133 Speaker 5: to the ashes and AND i like the. COLOR i 954 00:50:16,213 --> 00:50:17,853 Speaker 5: like the way he just sits on the balcony with 955 00:50:17,893 --> 00:50:20,093 Speaker 5: his feet up in his shades. On there's something very 956 00:50:21,253 --> 00:50:23,333 Speaker 5: self assured about. HIM i think when they look at, 957 00:50:23,413 --> 00:50:26,253 Speaker 5: him they must, think, well he doesn't seem. Bothered maybe 958 00:50:26,293 --> 00:50:26,853 Speaker 5: we're Doing. 959 00:50:27,093 --> 00:50:30,413 Speaker 4: Yeah he certainly has a swagger about. Him there's no doubting. That, 960 00:50:30,933 --> 00:50:35,693 Speaker 4: hey why do you, think why do you think panel 961 00:50:35,733 --> 00:50:40,213 Speaker 4: shows are so beloved and successful in THE uk but 962 00:50:40,373 --> 00:50:41,333 Speaker 4: barely exists in THE. 963 00:50:41,413 --> 00:50:45,893 Speaker 5: Us, WELL i think the origin of a lot of 964 00:50:45,893 --> 00:50:51,333 Speaker 5: them in THE uk is. RADIO Bbc Light Entertainment Radio 965 00:50:51,413 --> 00:50:53,413 Speaker 5: department is the origin for a lot of panel. 966 00:50:53,413 --> 00:50:57,933 Speaker 4: Shows whether It's The goons Or My word or something like. 967 00:50:57,973 --> 00:51:00,973 Speaker 5: That, well le's less The goons because they were on 968 00:51:01,013 --> 00:51:04,813 Speaker 5: their feet doing silly. Voices but there's a long tradition 969 00:51:05,093 --> 00:51:09,413 Speaker 5: and some panel shows started there and stay. There you. 970 00:51:09,453 --> 00:51:12,293 Speaker 5: Know there's a show That David mitchell has Called The Unbelievable. 971 00:51:12,293 --> 00:51:15,533 Speaker 5: Truth you just sit around a panel and you give 972 00:51:15,613 --> 00:51:17,653 Speaker 5: us talk and you've got to smuggle things that are 973 00:51:17,653 --> 00:51:20,053 Speaker 5: true amongst a blizzard of. Lies it's a really good. 974 00:51:20,053 --> 00:51:23,213 Speaker 5: Format it's never transferred TO. Tv they've done about twenty 975 00:51:23,293 --> 00:51:25,773 Speaker 5: series of. It everyone goes on, it everyone loves doing. 976 00:51:25,813 --> 00:51:29,653 Speaker 5: It and On radio four AND Bbc radio we have 977 00:51:29,893 --> 00:51:33,813 Speaker 5: this And i'm sure you could get to it somewhere 978 00:51:33,853 --> 00:51:36,093 Speaker 5: on the. Internet you've got all this resource and so 979 00:51:36,533 --> 00:51:41,213 Speaker 5: transferring those kinds of formats onto. Television four or five 980 00:51:41,213 --> 00:51:44,013 Speaker 5: people sat behind a table as if they were recording 981 00:51:44,053 --> 00:51:47,533 Speaker 5: a radio. SHOW i don't think they have that in The. 982 00:51:47,573 --> 00:51:50,293 Speaker 5: States they don't have the radio that we. Have THE 983 00:51:50,333 --> 00:51:56,733 Speaker 5: bbc is often under, attack but because it's, subsidized really 984 00:51:56,773 --> 00:52:00,013 Speaker 5: it doesn't have to compete in the marketplace and in 985 00:52:00,093 --> 00:52:04,653 Speaker 5: the other broadcasters and. Newspapers they hate, That they would 986 00:52:04,733 --> 00:52:07,573 Speaker 5: rather it wasn't. There but for those of us who 987 00:52:07,733 --> 00:52:11,253 Speaker 5: listen or to it or work for, it oh Please 988 00:52:11,333 --> 00:52:16,613 Speaker 5: god preserve it because, well think of what you, lose you, 989 00:52:16,653 --> 00:52:20,613 Speaker 5: know and shows LIKE qi are a good example of 990 00:52:20,653 --> 00:52:24,773 Speaker 5: that because they it. Originates you, Know John lloyd had 991 00:52:24,773 --> 00:52:27,533 Speaker 5: created it was A bbc radio. Producer he created a 992 00:52:27,573 --> 00:52:30,733 Speaker 5: show Called The News, quiz which is a radio panel, 993 00:52:30,773 --> 00:52:34,373 Speaker 5: show quiz show based on the. News it's been running 994 00:52:34,373 --> 00:52:37,173 Speaker 5: for fifty. Years, yeah he created it in his. Twenties 995 00:52:38,333 --> 00:52:41,213 Speaker 5: and without THE, bbc there's No News, quiz there's NO. 996 00:52:41,293 --> 00:52:44,133 Speaker 5: Qi there's there's a lot of. Nothing. 997 00:52:45,653 --> 00:52:49,773 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, SO i MEAN i think THAT'S i think 998 00:52:49,773 --> 00:52:52,053 Speaker 4: it's a great. Point AND i can only imagine that 999 00:52:52,093 --> 00:52:55,293 Speaker 4: after your years ON, qi you were the most valued 1000 00:52:55,333 --> 00:52:57,373 Speaker 4: member and any pub quiz, Team now are. 1001 00:52:57,413 --> 00:53:02,813 Speaker 5: You i'm. Useless i'm useless BECAUSE i can't retain. Anything 1002 00:53:03,373 --> 00:53:07,013 Speaker 5: and IF i WATCHED, qi WHICH i don't often because 1003 00:53:07,013 --> 00:53:08,973 Speaker 5: Obviously i've got a wife and children and how COULD 1004 00:53:09,013 --> 00:53:10,853 Speaker 5: i do it to? Them but if it comes, ON 1005 00:53:12,453 --> 00:53:14,813 Speaker 5: i can't remember any of the. RECORDINGS i, Said, OH 1006 00:53:14,813 --> 00:53:17,693 Speaker 5: i don't remember that person being, On and then the 1007 00:53:17,693 --> 00:53:20,213 Speaker 5: conversation will start and someone will say, something And i'll 1008 00:53:20,213 --> 00:53:22,373 Speaker 5: sit on myself at home and think of something THAT 1009 00:53:22,453 --> 00:53:24,893 Speaker 5: i would say at that, point and then the me 1010 00:53:25,213 --> 00:53:29,813 Speaker 5: on screen actually says. It so my brain is quite 1011 00:53:29,893 --> 00:53:32,413 Speaker 5: limited on this sort Of i'm a bit like a 1012 00:53:32,493 --> 00:53:35,333 Speaker 5: rat that only goes down certain alleyways in your. Garden 1013 00:53:35,573 --> 00:53:39,653 Speaker 5: i've Just i've become entirely predictable to the scriptwriters and 1014 00:53:39,653 --> 00:53:41,733 Speaker 5: the people who do the. Questions they could trip me, 1015 00:53:41,813 --> 00:53:43,453 Speaker 5: up but that the first thing they do is get 1016 00:53:43,493 --> 00:53:45,613 Speaker 5: up in the morning and write five things that that 1017 00:53:45,693 --> 00:53:47,773 Speaker 5: idiot will get, wrong and then they could take the day. 1018 00:53:47,813 --> 00:53:52,053 Speaker 4: Off, well, look we are we are delighted that you're 1019 00:53:52,053 --> 00:53:54,973 Speaker 4: coming To New zealand next. Year we really. Are congratulations 1020 00:53:55,013 --> 00:53:57,173 Speaker 4: On Think ahead and the success that you've hit with 1021 00:53:57,213 --> 00:53:59,093 Speaker 4: the show so, far and we look forward to seeing 1022 00:53:59,093 --> 00:53:59,453 Speaker 4: you very. 1023 00:53:59,493 --> 00:54:01,773 Speaker 5: Soon OH i can't. Wait thank. 1024 00:54:01,813 --> 00:54:04,973 Speaker 4: You that Is Ellen. Davis take it To ellen's tour 1025 00:54:05,213 --> 00:54:09,973 Speaker 4: and more information is available At Live nation dot co dot. 1026 00:54:10,093 --> 00:54:11,853 Speaker 4: Nz we'll wait for the link to that on The News. 1027 00:54:11,853 --> 00:54:14,453 Speaker 4: Talks he'd be website as. Well before eleven, o'clock we're 1028 00:54:14,493 --> 00:54:17,573 Speaker 4: in the garden with tips on getting everything just right 1029 00:54:17,613 --> 00:54:19,533 Speaker 4: for your summer in the. Garden as well as that 1030 00:54:19,733 --> 00:54:23,013 Speaker 4: some advice from our recentent doctor about staying, safe some 1031 00:54:23,533 --> 00:54:27,653 Speaker 4: very simple things to focus on and to avoid over 1032 00:54:27,693 --> 00:54:30,213 Speaker 4: the silly. Season help you with us very. Soon next, 1033 00:54:30,253 --> 00:54:32,333 Speaker 4: up we've got your screen time picks for this. Weekend right, 1034 00:54:32,373 --> 00:54:33,333 Speaker 4: now it's twenty two past. 1035 00:54:33,373 --> 00:54:38,373 Speaker 3: Ten start your weekend off the right Way saturday morning 1036 00:54:38,453 --> 00:54:39,853 Speaker 3: With Jacktam News. 1037 00:54:39,893 --> 00:54:42,093 Speaker 8: Talks if Fee jack. 1038 00:54:41,933 --> 00:54:44,933 Speaker 4: Says peter absolutely Love Allen. Davis thank you so much 1039 00:54:44,973 --> 00:54:48,053 Speaker 4: for the. Interview fantastic to hear that he's coming To New. Zealand, 1040 00:54:48,133 --> 00:54:50,293 Speaker 4: Yeah i'm a big fan from wayback as. WELL qi 1041 00:54:50,573 --> 00:54:53,773 Speaker 4: so GOOD A Jonathan creek so good underrated SHOW i 1042 00:54:53,813 --> 00:54:56,813 Speaker 4: Reckon Jonathan craig ninety ninety two is our text number 1043 00:54:56,813 --> 00:54:58,573 Speaker 4: if you want to send us a message this. Morning 1044 00:54:58,653 --> 00:55:02,693 Speaker 4: speaking of FANTASTIC tv. Shows now it's time for your 1045 00:55:02,733 --> 00:55:05,013 Speaker 4: screen time picks for this. Week Tara reward is our 1046 00:55:05,053 --> 00:55:08,333 Speaker 4: screen time. Experts she's got three recommendations for. Us Good. 1047 00:55:08,333 --> 00:55:12,373 Speaker 4: Atara good Morning. Lee let's begin this morning With The 1048 00:55:12,493 --> 00:55:14,053 Speaker 4: abandons On. Netflix. 1049 00:55:14,973 --> 00:55:18,053 Speaker 15: Yeah this is a New American western series that just 1050 00:55:18,093 --> 00:55:21,253 Speaker 15: began On. Netflix it Stars Gillian anderson And Lena heady 1051 00:55:21,333 --> 00:55:25,093 Speaker 15: and it's made By Kurt, sutter who created shows Like 1052 00:55:25,413 --> 00:55:28,293 Speaker 15: sons Of anarchy And The, shield and those are both 1053 00:55:28,333 --> 00:55:31,173 Speaker 15: quite dark and gritty, shows and has bought that kind 1054 00:55:31,173 --> 00:55:35,133 Speaker 15: of sensibility to this New western. Series this is set 1055 00:55:35,173 --> 00:55:38,333 Speaker 15: In washington in the eighteen, fifties and it's about two 1056 00:55:38,333 --> 00:55:41,533 Speaker 15: women who are each the matriarch of their family and 1057 00:55:41,613 --> 00:55:45,133 Speaker 15: their battle over some land That Jillian anderson's character wants 1058 00:55:45,173 --> 00:55:48,533 Speaker 15: to mind for. Silver and it's about how far each 1059 00:55:48,573 --> 00:55:51,053 Speaker 15: woman will go to get what they want and what 1060 00:55:51,093 --> 00:55:53,813 Speaker 15: they'll do to protect their. Family and it's about love 1061 00:55:53,933 --> 00:55:58,173 Speaker 15: and revenge and greed and survival as. WELL A western 1062 00:55:58,253 --> 00:56:00,213 Speaker 15: with two women calling the shots is quite a modern 1063 00:56:00,293 --> 00:56:02,293 Speaker 15: take on this. Era BUT i think you're watching this 1064 00:56:02,493 --> 00:56:05,573 Speaker 15: for a bit of escapism and a show that you 1065 00:56:05,613 --> 00:56:07,973 Speaker 15: won't have to think too hard, about because this sort 1066 00:56:07,973 --> 00:56:10,293 Speaker 15: of embraces all the cliches you would expect in A. 1067 00:56:10,293 --> 00:56:13,053 Speaker 15: Western the gun slinging and the cattle stealing and the 1068 00:56:13,053 --> 00:56:15,613 Speaker 15: tough town in the middle of. Nowhere it's a bit 1069 00:56:15,813 --> 00:56:18,933 Speaker 15: Like sons Of anarchy mixed in With, yellowstone Like i've 1070 00:56:18,973 --> 00:56:21,693 Speaker 15: got horses instead of, motorbikes and you, know it is 1071 00:56:21,733 --> 00:56:24,573 Speaker 15: a bit. Formulaic there's a few soapy love stories in 1072 00:56:24,613 --> 00:56:27,733 Speaker 15: here as. Well BUT i would watch this just For Gillian, 1073 00:56:27,773 --> 00:56:31,093 Speaker 15: anderson WHO i always think is so, good so, compelling 1074 00:56:31,453 --> 00:56:36,613 Speaker 15: and here she's playing this, mean ruthless matriarch who has 1075 00:56:36,733 --> 00:56:38,853 Speaker 15: not going to back down, easily and she just holds 1076 00:56:38,893 --> 00:56:39,493 Speaker 15: this whole show. 1077 00:56:39,533 --> 00:56:40,133 Speaker 5: Together oh. 1078 00:56:40,173 --> 00:56:43,933 Speaker 4: Fantastic. Cool, okay that's The abandons is On, netflix ON 1079 00:56:44,013 --> 00:56:47,493 Speaker 4: tv AND z. Plus the Tense british drama Trigger. 1080 00:56:47,533 --> 00:56:51,333 Speaker 15: Point, yeah there's a new season of Trigger point which 1081 00:56:51,333 --> 00:56:54,413 Speaker 15: starts tomorrow on TVN Z. Plus and Trigger point is 1082 00:56:54,453 --> 00:56:57,573 Speaker 15: one of those shows that you, know it's completely over 1083 00:56:57,613 --> 00:56:59,533 Speaker 15: the top and this stuff would never happen in real, 1084 00:56:59,573 --> 00:57:02,533 Speaker 15: life but it doesn't. Matter this is fun and fast 1085 00:57:02,693 --> 00:57:07,253 Speaker 15: and reliably great. Television this is A british police. Drama 1086 00:57:07,293 --> 00:57:10,493 Speaker 15: it's made BY. Jd, mccurio who of course created brilliant 1087 00:57:10,493 --> 00:57:13,853 Speaker 15: shows Like line Of duty And. Bodyguard and it's about 1088 00:57:13,893 --> 00:57:17,853 Speaker 15: a bomb disposal officer Named Lana, washington who as a 1089 00:57:17,893 --> 00:57:20,853 Speaker 15: war veteran and as now the go to expert for 1090 00:57:21,053 --> 00:57:25,813 Speaker 15: diffusing bombs under extreme pressure and basically in every episode 1091 00:57:25,893 --> 00:57:30,613 Speaker 15: she uses her unique set of skills to prevent terrorist 1092 00:57:30,653 --> 00:57:34,653 Speaker 15: attacks involving explosives and. Hostages she's protecting the city Of 1093 00:57:34,693 --> 00:57:38,893 Speaker 15: london while also trying to find out the identity. 1094 00:57:38,413 --> 00:57:40,413 Speaker 7: Of these terrorist serial. 1095 00:57:40,493 --> 00:57:44,173 Speaker 15: Killers that's great. Stuff lana is played By vicky, McClure 1096 00:57:44,213 --> 00:57:46,573 Speaker 15: who start in line of. Duty she knows how to 1097 00:57:46,653 --> 00:57:51,533 Speaker 15: deliver in these twisty police. Dramas you, know it's, slick 1098 00:57:51,933 --> 00:57:55,213 Speaker 15: lots of, cliffhangers, intension AND i think if you just 1099 00:57:55,373 --> 00:57:58,053 Speaker 15: embrace the ridiculousness of it all and don't worry too 1100 00:57:58,133 --> 00:58:01,133 Speaker 15: much about the odd plot hole or how far fetched 1101 00:58:01,133 --> 00:58:03,693 Speaker 15: it might, seem then you can just really enjoy this 1102 00:58:03,773 --> 00:58:06,813 Speaker 15: for what it, is which is just. Entertainment season three 1103 00:58:06,853 --> 00:58:09,733 Speaker 15: drops tomorrow, morning but seasons one and two are already 1104 00:58:10,293 --> 00:58:10,933 Speaker 15: up ON tvnz. 1105 00:58:11,013 --> 00:58:13,773 Speaker 4: Plus, now, okay, cool so that is trigger. Point it's 1106 00:58:13,773 --> 00:58:15,933 Speaker 4: ON tvnz plus and On. Netflix. 1107 00:58:16,453 --> 00:58:20,693 Speaker 15: Fisc, Yeah fisk is one of my favorite comedies and 1108 00:58:20,733 --> 00:58:23,373 Speaker 15: the third season has just dropped On. Netflix this is 1109 00:58:23,373 --> 00:58:27,533 Speaker 15: a really Dry australian. Comedy it Stars Kitty, flanagan who 1110 00:58:27,573 --> 00:58:30,933 Speaker 15: also co created and wrote the, show and she Plays 1111 00:58:30,973 --> 00:58:34,653 Speaker 15: Helen Tudor, fisk who is a corporate lawyer who goes 1112 00:58:34,693 --> 00:58:38,693 Speaker 15: through a very, bad humiliating divorce and loses everything and 1113 00:58:39,373 --> 00:58:41,573 Speaker 15: has to move in with her elderly father and his, 1114 00:58:41,693 --> 00:58:44,413 Speaker 15: boyfriend and she has to take a job in a, 1115 00:58:44,453 --> 00:58:48,013 Speaker 15: small run down suburban law firm that deals with wills 1116 00:58:48,013 --> 00:58:52,213 Speaker 15: and estates and fisc is quite socially. Awkward she never 1117 00:58:52,253 --> 00:58:55,373 Speaker 15: says the right, thing she doesn't suffer, Fools she's not 1118 00:58:55,493 --> 00:58:58,293 Speaker 15: really a people, person and the humor here is in 1119 00:58:58,733 --> 00:59:02,893 Speaker 15: her daily interactions with her colleagues and her clients and 1120 00:59:02,933 --> 00:59:06,173 Speaker 15: all the local. Idiots it's such a delightful, show very 1121 00:59:06,213 --> 00:59:10,053 Speaker 15: sharp and, witty but also quite warm and, gentle and 1122 00:59:10,213 --> 00:59:14,013 Speaker 15: the characters are quirky but very. Lovable if you like 1123 00:59:14,093 --> 00:59:17,533 Speaker 15: other comedies Like utopia Or colin From accounts or Even 1124 00:59:17,573 --> 00:59:20,213 Speaker 15: Frontline Going Way, BACK i think you'll love us as. 1125 00:59:20,213 --> 00:59:23,013 Speaker 4: Well, yeah it's so. GOOD i really really enjoyed First so, 1126 00:59:23,093 --> 00:59:26,173 Speaker 4: yeah total call that. Recommendation fisk is On. Netflix, tara 1127 00:59:26,213 --> 00:59:28,053 Speaker 4: did you ever Watch Jonathan creek back in the? 1128 00:59:28,133 --> 00:59:31,693 Speaker 15: DAY i was just thinking in the Intro Jonathan creek 1129 00:59:31,773 --> 00:59:34,973 Speaker 15: is such an underrated. Show, yeah it was great and 1130 00:59:35,373 --> 00:59:38,413 Speaker 15: of course ON qi as. Well Alan davis love him ON. 1131 00:59:38,493 --> 00:59:40,093 Speaker 15: Qi he just plays that role. 1132 00:59:39,933 --> 00:59:40,133 Speaker 5: Of the. 1133 00:59:41,653 --> 00:59:41,933 Speaker 16: Dance. 1134 00:59:42,333 --> 00:59:43,853 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah it's so. 1135 00:59:43,973 --> 00:59:46,173 Speaker 4: Great, yeah he's very. Good, now thank you so. Much 1136 00:59:46,213 --> 00:59:49,773 Speaker 4: we'll make Sure tara's recommendations for this week's screen time 1137 00:59:49,813 --> 00:59:51,733 Speaker 4: picks her up on the news talk he'd b. Website 1138 00:59:51,773 --> 00:59:54,253 Speaker 4: So The abandons is the one With Gillian anderson that's On. 1139 00:59:54,293 --> 00:59:57,773 Speaker 4: Netflix fisk is The australian comedy that's On netflix as. 1140 00:59:57,773 --> 01:00:00,973 Speaker 4: Well Trigger point is The british drama with the bomb 1141 01:00:01,733 --> 01:00:06,533 Speaker 4: bomb Disposal expert that's ON tv AND Z. Plus thanks your. 1142 01:00:06,573 --> 01:00:09,133 Speaker 4: Messages jake has took me a. Note So, JACK i 1143 01:00:09,133 --> 01:00:11,373 Speaker 4: can't get The Jonathan creek theme music out of my. Head. 1144 01:00:11,413 --> 01:00:13,253 Speaker 4: Now i'm from THE, uk SO i watched it all 1145 01:00:13,293 --> 01:00:16,133 Speaker 4: those years ago and you cannot forget the. Music it 1146 01:00:16,213 --> 01:00:23,413 Speaker 4: is so. GOOD a dance card obviously doing a terrible 1147 01:00:23,453 --> 01:00:25,333 Speaker 4: job of, that but you know the one if you 1148 01:00:25,333 --> 01:00:27,973 Speaker 4: want to send this. Message ninety two is the text. 1149 01:00:28,013 --> 01:00:29,373 Speaker 4: Number it's just gone ten. 1150 01:00:29,293 --> 01:00:29,773 Speaker 5: Thirty. 1151 01:00:33,173 --> 01:00:34,373 Speaker 7: Getting your weekends. 1152 01:00:34,373 --> 01:00:38,333 Speaker 1: Started It's Saturday morning With Jack team on News talks 1153 01:00:38,533 --> 01:00:51,613 Speaker 1: By La. 1154 01:01:00,853 --> 01:01:06,933 Speaker 4: So back In, july The australian Outfit King gizzard and 1155 01:01:06,973 --> 01:01:11,573 Speaker 4: The Lizard wizard pulled their entire discography From spotify because 1156 01:01:11,613 --> 01:01:15,733 Speaker 4: of the streamer's investment IN ai powered military. Software and 1157 01:01:15,813 --> 01:01:19,093 Speaker 4: this track might sound kind of. Familiar it sounds like 1158 01:01:19,133 --> 01:01:21,933 Speaker 4: it could Be King gizzard and The Lizard, wizard but 1159 01:01:22,173 --> 01:01:27,613 Speaker 4: it is. Not it is AN ai doppelganger Named King Lizard, 1160 01:01:27,653 --> 01:01:32,333 Speaker 4: wizard which appeared on the music streaming service in the 1161 01:01:32,333 --> 01:01:37,013 Speaker 4: absence of the original band, titles, lyrics, structures maladies of 1162 01:01:37,093 --> 01:01:40,853 Speaker 4: THE ai slop songs have been derived directly from the 1163 01:01:40,893 --> 01:01:43,493 Speaker 4: real bands of music and. Creations and to top it, 1164 01:01:43,493 --> 01:01:47,053 Speaker 4: Off spotify pushed THE ai impersonator within its algorithm so 1165 01:01:47,093 --> 01:01:50,133 Speaker 4: that the fake versions of real songs reached tens of 1166 01:01:50,173 --> 01:01:53,453 Speaker 4: thousands of listeners before anyone was able to meaningfully raise. 1167 01:01:53,533 --> 01:01:58,933 Speaker 4: Concern fascinating ay and a real cautionary tale SEE ai 1168 01:01:59,093 --> 01:02:00,893 Speaker 4: is just one of the many things that music fans 1169 01:02:00,933 --> 01:02:02,533 Speaker 4: have had to try and wrap their heads around this. 1170 01:02:02,613 --> 01:02:04,413 Speaker 4: Year our music reviewer is going to be with this 1171 01:02:04,493 --> 01:02:07,213 Speaker 4: performance day with his thoughts on what else has made 1172 01:02:07,213 --> 01:02:09,853 Speaker 4: the list of the worst things about me being a 1173 01:02:09,893 --> 01:02:12,253 Speaker 4: music fan in twenty twenty. FIVE i know that at 1174 01:02:12,253 --> 01:02:14,213 Speaker 4: this time of year we usually do best, of but 1175 01:02:14,253 --> 01:02:17,053 Speaker 4: now we're going we're going to round our hut twenty 1176 01:02:17,093 --> 01:02:19,893 Speaker 4: twenty five with the worst of when it comes to 1177 01:02:19,933 --> 01:02:23,413 Speaker 4: trends in. Music before mid day, today before eleven, o'clock 1178 01:02:23,413 --> 01:02:25,533 Speaker 4: we're in the. Garden next, up, though our texpert is 1179 01:02:25,573 --> 01:02:28,773 Speaker 4: here with his thoughts on one of the curious points 1180 01:02:28,773 --> 01:02:31,733 Speaker 4: of opposition To australia's social media, band. 1181 01:02:33,093 --> 01:02:34,853 Speaker 5: The headlines and The Hard. 1182 01:02:34,973 --> 01:02:38,013 Speaker 1: Questions it's the mic asking Breakfast. 1183 01:02:37,413 --> 01:02:40,493 Speaker 11: Timary principle's payoffer has been. Rejected Robin brown is the 1184 01:02:40,493 --> 01:02:43,933 Speaker 11: principle Of Birtuville school and a member of THE nzdi negotiating. 1185 01:02:43,933 --> 01:02:46,933 Speaker 11: Team you've been offered up to twenty one thousand dollars 1186 01:02:46,973 --> 01:02:49,173 Speaker 11: plus four point six, percent but you still want another 1187 01:02:49,213 --> 01:02:50,013 Speaker 11: fifteen on top of. 1188 01:02:50,013 --> 01:02:50,773 Speaker 15: That what we. 1189 01:02:50,653 --> 01:02:54,773 Speaker 16: Want is recognition for all of the unsustainable workload and curriculum. 1190 01:02:54,853 --> 01:02:56,893 Speaker 11: Upheable if they say to you we give you fifteen thousand, 1191 01:02:56,933 --> 01:02:57,733 Speaker 11: dollars we will take the. 1192 01:02:57,733 --> 01:03:00,453 Speaker 16: Offer we will take that offer out to our principles 1193 01:03:00,493 --> 01:03:01,733 Speaker 16: and see whether they would take that. 1194 01:03:01,773 --> 01:03:03,093 Speaker 4: Off, robin that's a lot of. 1195 01:03:03,133 --> 01:03:05,733 Speaker 11: Money you guys are basically asking for an increase of 1196 01:03:05,853 --> 01:03:08,293 Speaker 11: thirty six two thousand dollars class four point six. 1197 01:03:08,333 --> 01:03:09,653 Speaker 7: Percent no one else gets. 1198 01:03:09,413 --> 01:03:09,773 Speaker 4: That kind of. 1199 01:03:09,813 --> 01:03:13,373 Speaker 1: Money heather Duplusy ellen on The Mic Hosking Breakfast Back 1200 01:03:13,493 --> 01:03:17,253 Speaker 1: monday from six am with A Vida Retirement communities On 1201 01:03:17,373 --> 01:03:19,333 Speaker 1: News talks deadb twenty. 1202 01:03:19,013 --> 01:03:21,053 Speaker 4: Two to eleven On News. Talks, yeah but we started 1203 01:03:21,053 --> 01:03:23,693 Speaker 4: the show this morning by talking about The Australian Social 1204 01:03:23,733 --> 01:03:25,773 Speaker 4: Media band which has just come in to effect for 1205 01:03:25,973 --> 01:03:28,293 Speaker 4: under sixteen year Old so you remember there are ten 1206 01:03:28,453 --> 01:03:34,253 Speaker 4: platforms or sites or apps that are currently banned under 1207 01:03:34,253 --> 01:03:38,373 Speaker 4: The australian, legislation but one of, Them, reddit has decided 1208 01:03:38,413 --> 01:03:42,413 Speaker 4: to Take australia to. Court Our Textbert Paul steenhouses here 1209 01:03:42,413 --> 01:03:44,653 Speaker 4: with the. Details good, Morning. Paul what Does reddit have 1210 01:03:44,733 --> 01:03:45,093 Speaker 4: to say for? 1211 01:03:45,133 --> 01:03:49,333 Speaker 14: Itself, Yeah i'm Backing reddit on this. ONE i, think, Actually, 1212 01:03:49,453 --> 01:03:52,653 Speaker 14: jack it's making two. ARGUMENTS i think one of them 1213 01:03:52,733 --> 01:03:54,853 Speaker 14: is better than the. Other so the first one is 1214 01:03:54,893 --> 01:03:58,333 Speaker 14: that it says that the law limits the free political 1215 01:03:58,413 --> 01:04:01,773 Speaker 14: discourse of. Children NOW i would probably say if you 1216 01:04:01,773 --> 01:04:04,133 Speaker 14: can't vote until you're, eighteen that one feels a little bit, 1217 01:04:04,133 --> 01:04:04,773 Speaker 14: Weak BUT. 1218 01:04:04,773 --> 01:04:05,653 Speaker 10: I like its second. 1219 01:04:05,773 --> 01:04:10,133 Speaker 14: Argument, okay now read it is a website where you 1220 01:04:10,213 --> 01:04:12,333 Speaker 14: effectively it's like one of the. 1221 01:04:12,293 --> 01:04:13,293 Speaker 4: Almost old school. 1222 01:04:13,373 --> 01:04:18,053 Speaker 14: Forums you talk about topics and you post questions and 1223 01:04:18,093 --> 01:04:22,173 Speaker 14: you get, answers and you post interesting links and discuss. 1224 01:04:22,253 --> 01:04:26,693 Speaker 14: Them it's not really about, people. Okay and So reddit 1225 01:04:26,893 --> 01:04:29,813 Speaker 14: has called itself from front of The courts a collection 1226 01:04:29,933 --> 01:04:33,693 Speaker 14: of public fora arranged by, subject WHICH i kind of. 1227 01:04:33,813 --> 01:04:36,533 Speaker 14: Liked whoever wrote that kind of needs a needs a 1228 01:04:36,573 --> 01:04:39,373 Speaker 14: little check mak beside their. Name but what it's saying 1229 01:04:39,493 --> 01:04:43,413 Speaker 14: is that because you don't typically follow people like you 1230 01:04:43,493 --> 01:04:46,893 Speaker 14: do on other social platforms like your, facebooks like your, 1231 01:04:46,933 --> 01:04:51,333 Speaker 14: instagrams they believe that they should be. Immune they, say 1232 01:04:51,373 --> 01:04:55,773 Speaker 14: you follow, subjects and of course they. Don't they don't 1233 01:04:55,813 --> 01:04:58,853 Speaker 14: don't lie about the fact they. Don't you move away 1234 01:04:58,853 --> 01:05:02,413 Speaker 14: from the fact that there are interactions between, people but 1235 01:05:02,493 --> 01:05:06,853 Speaker 14: it's not really about person to person. Communication read it 1236 01:05:07,253 --> 01:05:10,173 Speaker 14: and they, say is part of the case that you 1237 01:05:10,213 --> 01:05:12,853 Speaker 14: know you're basically discouraging knowledge. 1238 01:05:12,853 --> 01:05:18,173 Speaker 4: Sharing, yeah, SEE i am quite an Enthusiastic reddit. User 1239 01:05:18,853 --> 01:05:21,333 Speaker 4: if we are to call it social media, Broadly, YEAH 1240 01:05:21,373 --> 01:05:23,973 Speaker 4: i think it's really, good and SO i follow a few. 1241 01:05:23,973 --> 01:05:27,293 Speaker 4: Things kind of resonate with me in that. Argument So 1242 01:05:27,333 --> 01:05:29,453 Speaker 4: first of, all you don't follow, people so you follow 1243 01:05:29,733 --> 01:05:32,733 Speaker 4: subject matter that's interesting to. YOU i THINK i. FOLLOW 1244 01:05:34,293 --> 01:05:42,733 Speaker 4: i follow various geography related, subreddits various political. SUBREDDITS i 1245 01:05:42,853 --> 01:05:48,613 Speaker 4: follow a submarine enthusiasts, subreddit things like, that, Right New 1246 01:05:48,693 --> 01:05:53,813 Speaker 4: zealand gardening, subreddits personal finance, subreddits stuff like. That BUT 1247 01:05:53,933 --> 01:05:54,533 Speaker 4: i find it's. 1248 01:05:54,413 --> 01:05:57,053 Speaker 14: Funny when people start to say what THEY'RE i. 1249 01:05:57,053 --> 01:05:59,733 Speaker 4: KNOW i, know are you honestly surprised that at submarines 1250 01:05:59,733 --> 01:06:01,653 Speaker 4: and geography and that it took me so long to find? 1251 01:06:01,653 --> 01:06:05,493 Speaker 14: It it's, nerdy is, everything which is the. Problem, yes 1252 01:06:06,533 --> 01:06:10,053 Speaker 14: deepest darkest thoughts are kind of revealed. Accidentally but that's 1253 01:06:10,053 --> 01:06:12,013 Speaker 14: why people never want to share their user name On. 1254 01:06:12,053 --> 01:06:14,293 Speaker 4: Reddit that's exactly What i'm about to say. Next so 1255 01:06:14,613 --> 01:06:17,253 Speaker 4: people don't use their don't use their, names and don't 1256 01:06:17,293 --> 01:06:20,253 Speaker 4: really post as, themselves right they post you just kind 1257 01:06:20,253 --> 01:06:23,093 Speaker 4: of have anonymous. Names but also the culture Of, reddit 1258 01:06:23,093 --> 01:06:25,173 Speaker 4: and maybe this comes down to the subreddits THAT i. 1259 01:06:25,173 --> 01:06:28,573 Speaker 4: Follow it's not very. Nasty it's often quite, Helpful like 1260 01:06:28,813 --> 01:06:31,373 Speaker 4: you can, post you, know SOMETIMES i post things and say, 1261 01:06:31,533 --> 01:06:33,053 Speaker 4: yeah AND i, say, oh this Is i'm having a 1262 01:06:33,093 --> 01:06:34,453 Speaker 4: problem with, This like SOMETIMES i do it in The 1263 01:06:34,453 --> 01:06:37,333 Speaker 4: New zealand gardening. ONE i, say, oh what's wrong with this? 1264 01:06:37,493 --> 01:06:39,213 Speaker 4: Plant and people, say, oh give it a bit of. 1265 01:06:39,253 --> 01:06:44,213 Speaker 4: THIS i, KNOW i KNOW i use, both so, Yeah 1266 01:06:44,253 --> 01:06:46,893 Speaker 4: I'm i'm sort of supportive Of. Reddit what do you think, 1267 01:06:46,933 --> 01:06:51,653 Speaker 4: though as as someone who you know thinks deeply about 1268 01:06:51,893 --> 01:06:54,253 Speaker 4: the impact that social media and digital platforms are having 1269 01:06:54,293 --> 01:06:58,373 Speaker 4: on our, lives do you think that The australian law 1270 01:06:58,573 --> 01:07:02,293 Speaker 4: is net positive or net? Negative what do you? Think? 1271 01:07:03,773 --> 01:07:07,733 Speaker 14: Oh, BOY i like it in CONCANT i just don't 1272 01:07:07,773 --> 01:07:10,693 Speaker 14: know how you really enforce it. RIGHT i don't know 1273 01:07:10,733 --> 01:07:14,213 Speaker 14: what mechanisms s theyre using to actually make sure the 1274 01:07:14,293 --> 01:07:16,253 Speaker 14: kids are staying off of. It BUT i, mean, LOOK 1275 01:07:16,253 --> 01:07:18,613 Speaker 14: i think it will probably introduce a whole generation of 1276 01:07:18,693 --> 01:07:21,293 Speaker 14: kids to. VPNs, yes maybe it'll make them a little 1277 01:07:21,293 --> 01:07:26,333 Speaker 14: more tech. Savvy, look DO i think that kids need 1278 01:07:26,373 --> 01:07:26,773 Speaker 14: to be on? 1279 01:07:26,813 --> 01:07:26,973 Speaker 8: It? 1280 01:07:27,213 --> 01:07:32,853 Speaker 14: No DO i envy parents of teenagers or tweens or 1281 01:07:32,893 --> 01:07:35,213 Speaker 14: WHATEVER i called, Like absolutely. NOT i think making those 1282 01:07:35,253 --> 01:07:39,013 Speaker 14: decisions about when they go on these types of services is, tough. 1283 01:07:39,453 --> 01:07:40,613 Speaker 10: Right the peer pressure is. 1284 01:07:40,653 --> 01:07:44,373 Speaker 14: Real but, YEAH i hate to be that person to 1285 01:07:44,373 --> 01:07:45,853 Speaker 14: say it's going to be a wait and, see BUT 1286 01:07:46,253 --> 01:07:48,773 Speaker 14: i do THINK i was away a couple of weeks 1287 01:07:48,773 --> 01:07:52,013 Speaker 14: ago In Hamilton island In australia in The Great barrier. 1288 01:07:52,053 --> 01:07:54,493 Speaker 14: Reef and this is going to sound a little bit, 1289 01:07:54,533 --> 01:07:56,973 Speaker 14: crazy but the, town the little island felt like it 1290 01:07:57,013 --> 01:07:58,813 Speaker 14: was kind of stuck in time AND i was on, 1291 01:07:58,853 --> 01:08:01,013 Speaker 14: holiday SO i wasn't really on my, phone wasn't on my, 1292 01:08:01,093 --> 01:08:04,493 Speaker 14: laptop and, BOY i did think it feels like a 1293 01:08:04,533 --> 01:08:05,973 Speaker 14: simpler life when you don't have your. 1294 01:08:05,853 --> 01:08:09,333 Speaker 4: Device one hundred. Percent, no, no, NO i think for that. Reason, 1295 01:08:10,413 --> 01:08:11,253 Speaker 4: YEAH i think for that. 1296 01:08:11,333 --> 01:08:13,653 Speaker 14: Reason it's LIKE i THINK i can see Where australia is, 1297 01:08:13,693 --> 01:08:16,013 Speaker 14: going and it made big headlines over here in THE ui. 1298 01:08:15,933 --> 01:08:18,813 Speaker 4: Is no everywhere in the, world all the, yeah all. 1299 01:08:18,693 --> 01:08:20,573 Speaker 14: The big networks were covered. IT i think a lot 1300 01:08:20,613 --> 01:08:23,013 Speaker 14: of the sentiments is when it's, when when Will america 1301 01:08:23,093 --> 01:08:23,413 Speaker 14: be bold? 1302 01:08:23,493 --> 01:08:23,773 Speaker 5: Enough? 1303 01:08:24,253 --> 01:08:26,533 Speaker 4: Yeah, YEAH i tend to agree with. That it's going 1304 01:08:26,613 --> 01:08:28,813 Speaker 4: to be very interesting to see if other countries are 1305 01:08:28,893 --> 01:08:31,053 Speaker 4: quick to. Follow thank you so, Much. Paul that's our, 1306 01:08:31,133 --> 01:08:35,533 Speaker 4: Textbook Paul. Stenhouse Doctor Brian betty's here next with tips 1307 01:08:35,533 --> 01:08:37,973 Speaker 4: on how to stay safe over summer seventeen to. Eleven 1308 01:08:39,773 --> 01:08:40,653 Speaker 4: no better. 1309 01:08:40,413 --> 01:08:44,893 Speaker 3: Way to kick off your weekend than With Jack saturday 1310 01:08:44,893 --> 01:08:45,333 Speaker 3: morning With. 1311 01:08:45,613 --> 01:08:48,853 Speaker 1: Jack Team News talk, said be go to. 1312 01:08:48,933 --> 01:08:52,813 Speaker 4: Eleven how resident Doctor Brian betty is. Here good, Morning 1313 01:08:53,373 --> 01:08:53,893 Speaker 4: oh Cure. 1314 01:08:54,053 --> 01:08:55,573 Speaker 8: Jack nice to be here, Here nice. 1315 01:08:55,373 --> 01:08:56,773 Speaker 4: To be chanting you to see you for the final 1316 01:08:56,773 --> 01:08:57,773 Speaker 4: time in twenty twenty. 1317 01:08:57,773 --> 01:08:59,693 Speaker 16: Five it's hard to, believe isn't. 1318 01:08:59,693 --> 01:09:03,653 Speaker 4: It, yeah, yeah, YEAH i know we say this every, 1319 01:09:03,773 --> 01:09:07,853 Speaker 4: Year but some THINGS i will think a cliches for good, 1320 01:09:07,853 --> 01:09:11,973 Speaker 4: reason you, know and this is one of. THEM i, Reckon, 1321 01:09:12,293 --> 01:09:15,733 Speaker 4: hey it has already been a stinking hot start to. 1322 01:09:15,733 --> 01:09:17,813 Speaker 4: SUMMER i think we. HAVE i Think november was the 1323 01:09:18,013 --> 01:09:21,653 Speaker 4: Hottest november we've had on, record and you've got some 1324 01:09:21,733 --> 01:09:25,293 Speaker 4: tips this morning about staying safe over. Summer and the 1325 01:09:25,333 --> 01:09:26,453 Speaker 4: heat is front of. 1326 01:09:26,413 --> 01:09:30,693 Speaker 16: Mind absolutely, absolutely and the sun in, particular and you 1327 01:09:30,813 --> 01:09:32,973 Speaker 16: just say the Hottest november we've had and that's probably 1328 01:09:32,973 --> 01:09:36,253 Speaker 16: going to continue Through. December so, LOOK i think with the, 1329 01:09:36,253 --> 01:09:40,333 Speaker 16: sun the sun is, fantastic makes us feel, Better VITAMIN 1330 01:09:40,413 --> 01:09:42,613 Speaker 16: d to the, skin which which actually helps all our, 1331 01:09:42,653 --> 01:09:45,773 Speaker 16: bones and lots of positive. Benefits we do need to 1332 01:09:45,773 --> 01:09:47,733 Speaker 16: be careful and we do need to think about the 1333 01:09:47,773 --> 01:09:50,773 Speaker 16: basics when it comes to the sun, now in particular, 1334 01:09:51,013 --> 01:09:55,493 Speaker 16: sunburn and we need to be especially careful during the 1335 01:09:55,573 --> 01:09:58,573 Speaker 16: day between those hours of ten am and four, pm 1336 01:09:58,613 --> 01:10:02,693 Speaker 16: when THOSE uv rays are very very sort of, intense 1337 01:10:03,213 --> 01:10:07,693 Speaker 16: especially over summer now in particular children children have very 1338 01:10:07,973 --> 01:10:11,053 Speaker 16: very sensitive skin and they get burnt. Easily and it's 1339 01:10:11,133 --> 01:10:13,213 Speaker 16: one of the commonest THINGS i see in the clinic 1340 01:10:13,653 --> 01:10:15,613 Speaker 16: and at the after hours WHEN i do after, hours 1341 01:10:15,973 --> 01:10:18,693 Speaker 16: as parents bringing their children. In they've just been outside 1342 01:10:18,733 --> 01:10:20,453 Speaker 16: for a bit too long and they come in with 1343 01:10:20,533 --> 01:10:25,213 Speaker 16: this quite severe at times. Sunburn so, look think about using, 1344 01:10:25,293 --> 01:10:27,973 Speaker 16: sunscreen you, know every two to three, hours and after, 1345 01:10:27,973 --> 01:10:32,253 Speaker 16: swimming we're, hats sunglasses and protective. Clothing think about those, 1346 01:10:32,293 --> 01:10:37,693 Speaker 16: basics especially with your. Kids really really, important really important. 1347 01:10:37,733 --> 01:10:40,773 Speaker 4: Advice it is the season of course for mosquitos and 1348 01:10:40,813 --> 01:10:41,973 Speaker 4: other various biting. 1349 01:10:42,173 --> 01:10:46,893 Speaker 16: Insects, yeah, yeah absolutely, so, yeah we get. Bitten so, 1350 01:10:47,053 --> 01:10:50,253 Speaker 16: look you, know we've got sandflies and mosquitos are probably 1351 01:10:50,253 --> 01:10:53,253 Speaker 16: the two biggest thing to note is mosquitos tend to 1352 01:10:53,293 --> 01:10:56,053 Speaker 16: come out in the dawn or early hours or in 1353 01:10:56,093 --> 01:10:58,693 Speaker 16: the early, evening whereas sand flies tend to be all. 1354 01:10:58,773 --> 01:11:01,413 Speaker 16: Day and we tend to get sand flies around running 1355 01:11:01,413 --> 01:11:04,853 Speaker 16: water or, rivers whereas mosquitos tend to be around sort 1356 01:11:04,853 --> 01:11:06,973 Speaker 16: of still water and that's where they and to. Breed, 1357 01:11:07,573 --> 01:11:10,853 Speaker 16: however you know if they bite, you they're little bits 1358 01:11:10,893 --> 01:11:13,013 Speaker 16: of saliva that goes into the skin can cause an 1359 01:11:13,053 --> 01:11:16,893 Speaker 16: allergic reaction and a really really itchy. Bite you, know 1360 01:11:16,973 --> 01:11:20,533 Speaker 16: sandfly bites and notorious mosquitos are the same and they 1361 01:11:20,573 --> 01:11:23,373 Speaker 16: can just drive your. Nuts so, look avoid getting bitten 1362 01:11:23,493 --> 01:11:26,333 Speaker 16: is really really important if we go into those sand 1363 01:11:26,413 --> 01:11:31,693 Speaker 16: flow or moscato type. Areas so, again wearing insect repellent 1364 01:11:31,933 --> 01:11:35,813 Speaker 16: really important if you like natural products and lavender or 1365 01:11:35,893 --> 01:11:38,933 Speaker 16: tea tree oil are the ones you want to. Use and, 1366 01:11:38,973 --> 01:11:42,253 Speaker 16: again wearing long clothes at those times where we might 1367 01:11:42,293 --> 01:11:45,893 Speaker 16: be exposed to sand flies or mosquitos is really really. 1368 01:11:45,933 --> 01:11:49,173 Speaker 16: Important sometimes you can get quite an allergic. Reaction you 1369 01:11:49,213 --> 01:11:53,573 Speaker 16: get these very, red itchy welts that come. Up, look 1370 01:11:53,693 --> 01:11:57,013 Speaker 16: itch cream from the pharmacy is really. Good calamine lotion works. 1371 01:11:57,053 --> 01:12:00,853 Speaker 16: Well if it is really quite an intense, reaction then 1372 01:12:00,893 --> 01:12:02,573 Speaker 16: you may need to see your doctor and have a 1373 01:12:02,653 --> 01:12:05,213 Speaker 16: chat about. It we use steroid creams and other things 1374 01:12:05,253 --> 01:12:09,413 Speaker 16: and anti estamines try and control. That but avoid getting 1375 01:12:09,413 --> 01:12:10,493 Speaker 16: bitten is probably the big. 1376 01:12:10,533 --> 01:12:13,133 Speaker 4: One, yeah that is a big. One so too is 1377 01:12:14,293 --> 01:12:17,093 Speaker 4: the message on alcohol and moderation at this time of, 1378 01:12:17,173 --> 01:12:19,293 Speaker 4: year one that many of US i think it can 1379 01:12:19,373 --> 01:12:20,613 Speaker 4: benefit from being reminded. 1380 01:12:20,653 --> 01:12:23,653 Speaker 16: Of, yeah, look look alcohol is that. ONE i think 1381 01:12:23,693 --> 01:12:27,453 Speaker 16: all things in moderation and alcohol in. Particular so what 1382 01:12:27,493 --> 01:12:31,333 Speaker 16: we do know is alcohol can exacerbate worse and, dehydration 1383 01:12:31,693 --> 01:12:33,973 Speaker 16: especially in the. Heat so, look one of the little 1384 01:12:34,013 --> 01:12:38,333 Speaker 16: tips is if you are, drinking alternate between an alcoholic 1385 01:12:38,373 --> 01:12:41,173 Speaker 16: beverage and a glass of. Water it just keeps your 1386 01:12:41,213 --> 01:12:45,333 Speaker 16: fluids up and can actually help keep your. Hydrated, obviously 1387 01:12:45,453 --> 01:12:49,493 Speaker 16: the big thing with alcohol it reduces our. Inhibition it 1388 01:12:49,533 --> 01:12:54,293 Speaker 16: reduces our checks or our, inhibitions and so we need 1389 01:12:54,333 --> 01:12:57,493 Speaker 16: to avoid things like swimming in particular with alcohol is. 1390 01:12:57,573 --> 01:13:01,093 Speaker 16: Dangerous so people are into trouble all the, time jumping 1391 01:13:01,093 --> 01:13:04,453 Speaker 16: into the water after they've been. Drinking boating or driving 1392 01:13:04,493 --> 01:13:06,933 Speaker 16: under the influence obviously are things that we eat to 1393 01:13:06,973 --> 01:13:09,333 Speaker 16: watch out for because of that impaired judgment that can 1394 01:13:09,373 --> 01:13:12,813 Speaker 16: actually have. Occurred the other thing that's always good with, 1395 01:13:12,893 --> 01:13:18,213 Speaker 16: alcohol eat before you, Drink, okay so it just slows 1396 01:13:18,213 --> 01:13:21,253 Speaker 16: that absorption of alcohol can be really really use. Useful 1397 01:13:21,453 --> 01:13:24,173 Speaker 16: and watch out for heat and olcohol, again it can 1398 01:13:24,493 --> 01:13:30,053 Speaker 16: it can really exacerbate heat exhaustion or the symptoms of heat. 1399 01:13:30,053 --> 01:13:32,013 Speaker 16: Stroke so so, yeah our cohol is just one of 1400 01:13:32,053 --> 01:13:34,573 Speaker 16: those things you do have to watch out. For stay, 1401 01:13:34,653 --> 01:13:37,133 Speaker 16: hydrated eat if you're, drinking and all things. 1402 01:13:37,213 --> 01:13:39,893 Speaker 4: Moderation love your, Work, brian thank you so much for 1403 01:13:39,973 --> 01:13:42,373 Speaker 4: everything this. Year we really appreciate. It have a wonderful, 1404 01:13:42,373 --> 01:13:42,933 Speaker 4: summer won't. 1405 01:13:42,973 --> 01:13:45,173 Speaker 16: You, yeah same with, You, jack and, look thanks very. 1406 01:13:45,253 --> 01:13:47,133 Speaker 16: Much i've really enjoyed this. Year so. 1407 01:13:47,213 --> 01:13:49,333 Speaker 4: Good that's Doctor Brian betty with us for the final 1408 01:13:49,413 --> 01:13:52,213 Speaker 4: time in twenty twenty. Five ten to eleven non news. 1409 01:13:52,253 --> 01:13:52,813 Speaker 4: Dogs y'd be. 1410 01:13:55,733 --> 01:13:59,093 Speaker 1: Gardening With Still shop yet dollars off loads of selected 1411 01:13:59,173 --> 01:14:00,373 Speaker 1: still tools. 1412 01:14:00,733 --> 01:14:03,373 Speaker 4: Through five passes our man in the. Garden good, Morning 1413 01:14:04,413 --> 01:14:05,093 Speaker 4: good Morning. 1414 01:14:05,173 --> 01:14:08,933 Speaker 9: JACK i LOVE i love this morning's program with with 1415 01:14:09,093 --> 01:14:11,213 Speaker 9: everything you did on the first, LOT i loved. 1416 01:14:11,253 --> 01:14:11,613 Speaker 6: It it was. 1417 01:14:11,653 --> 01:14:14,453 Speaker 9: Great and thank you for your card to thank. 1418 01:14:14,493 --> 01:14:16,933 Speaker 4: You, yeah they're a very Good now it's on the 1419 01:14:17,173 --> 01:14:19,053 Speaker 4: private place and the mental place at our. PLACE i 1420 01:14:19,053 --> 01:14:20,813 Speaker 4: thank you very, much And julie same. 1421 01:14:20,893 --> 01:14:21,213 Speaker 5: Here May. 1422 01:14:21,613 --> 01:14:24,973 Speaker 4: Hey things are heating up obviously and there are a 1423 01:14:24,973 --> 01:14:27,213 Speaker 4: few that's not officially what summer for another week or, 1424 01:14:27,213 --> 01:14:28,333 Speaker 4: so is? It according to the. 1425 01:14:28,293 --> 01:14:31,773 Speaker 9: Route twenty second Of december four. Three, yeah of. 1426 01:14:31,773 --> 01:14:36,413 Speaker 4: Course, yeah it's on my calendar as. Well but there 1427 01:14:36,413 --> 01:14:38,733 Speaker 4: are a few summary bits and bobs you're noticing around 1428 01:14:38,733 --> 01:14:39,013 Speaker 4: the garden. 1429 01:14:39,053 --> 01:14:42,013 Speaker 9: Already, well this is the, Place this is the time 1430 01:14:42,053 --> 01:14:44,133 Speaker 9: WHEN i really love to be outside like an. 1431 01:14:44,213 --> 01:14:44,493 Speaker 5: Sister. 1432 01:14:44,733 --> 01:14:47,213 Speaker 9: Serious gazella is a is A i. Love the name 1433 01:14:47,613 --> 01:14:49,853 Speaker 9: is a potter wasp that came out of out Of 1434 01:14:49,893 --> 01:14:53,373 Speaker 9: europe and it's a beautiful, thing little little thing that 1435 01:14:53,373 --> 01:14:57,413 Speaker 9: that basically is always around in your garden and does 1436 01:14:57,573 --> 01:15:00,933 Speaker 9: quite a bit of, pollenateing which is really. Cool i'll 1437 01:15:01,013 --> 01:15:02,853 Speaker 9: leave it at. That you can see the picture on 1438 01:15:02,933 --> 01:15:06,573 Speaker 9: the thing that we sent To, libby so it's be the. 1439 01:15:06,613 --> 01:15:09,413 Speaker 9: Website the second thing is the problem that you get 1440 01:15:09,453 --> 01:15:12,453 Speaker 9: with with with the. Gardeners, SAY i don't get enough 1441 01:15:12,853 --> 01:15:16,213 Speaker 9: cukurbets growing at the moment that there's, cucumbers melons and 1442 01:15:16,253 --> 01:15:19,773 Speaker 9: things like, that and it's probably because the plant. Thinks 1443 01:15:20,733 --> 01:15:24,453 Speaker 9: the plant thinks you realize that there isn't enough pollen. 1444 01:15:24,493 --> 01:15:27,933 Speaker 9: Here but the truth, is of, course that there is 1445 01:15:28,173 --> 01:15:32,093 Speaker 9: not enough pollinators there to make the plant think there is. 1446 01:15:32,253 --> 01:15:34,573 Speaker 9: Enough not enough Pollen da da da. Da so what 1447 01:15:34,693 --> 01:15:38,773 Speaker 9: you do is get a lot of pollen growing around 1448 01:15:38,813 --> 01:15:42,173 Speaker 9: your kuk. Kuberts And i've got this wonderful plant called 1449 01:15:42,253 --> 01:15:46,413 Speaker 9: origin and the blue. Dwarf it's a really beautiful. Thing 1450 01:15:47,173 --> 01:15:50,853 Speaker 9: as you can, see that would attract so many pollinators 1451 01:15:50,893 --> 01:15:55,613 Speaker 9: that then there will make a lot of female flowers 1452 01:15:55,653 --> 01:15:57,333 Speaker 9: going and that means you're getting. 1453 01:15:57,453 --> 01:16:00,613 Speaker 4: Fruit, simple, right a Simple, okay that's. 1454 01:16:00,653 --> 01:16:03,013 Speaker 9: It and then, finally and that is something for the 1455 01:16:03,093 --> 01:16:06,253 Speaker 9: kids to look, at especially if they're a bit, older you, know, 1456 01:16:06,733 --> 01:16:12,813 Speaker 9: anyway is the old wooll card to bee that fights 1457 01:16:13,013 --> 01:16:17,493 Speaker 9: for its. Pollen and it fights by literally attacking bees 1458 01:16:17,573 --> 01:16:20,733 Speaker 9: which are a lot larger than these things and, bumblebees 1459 01:16:20,973 --> 01:16:25,733 Speaker 9: and they squeeze them literally and bringing them dive bombing 1460 01:16:25,773 --> 01:16:29,693 Speaker 9: them and bringing them down to. Earth that is an unbelievable. 1461 01:16:29,773 --> 01:16:32,373 Speaker 9: Site you should see. That it's better than WATCHING. TV 1462 01:16:32,613 --> 01:16:38,533 Speaker 9: i bet you it's. Brilliant, well they dive on by 1463 01:16:38,533 --> 01:16:41,853 Speaker 9: going really fast on a, bee then squeeze with the 1464 01:16:42,333 --> 01:16:46,133 Speaker 9: with their, abdomen squeeze the bee in two places and 1465 01:16:46,173 --> 01:16:48,933 Speaker 9: the bee suddenly gets a smack that it can't fly 1466 01:16:49,013 --> 01:16:49,893 Speaker 9: anymore and goes you. 1467 01:16:50,173 --> 01:16:52,133 Speaker 5: Boom it's it's. 1468 01:16:52,253 --> 01:16:55,493 Speaker 9: Amazing so there you, go and they go for lambs 1469 01:16:55,533 --> 01:16:57,693 Speaker 9: here they go for all sorts of stuff that they, like, 1470 01:16:58,773 --> 01:17:01,933 Speaker 9: lavender et, cetera et. Cetera but they are the most 1471 01:17:02,053 --> 01:17:03,653 Speaker 9: beautiful fighters on. 1472 01:17:03,813 --> 01:17:04,693 Speaker 5: AIR i love. 1473 01:17:04,733 --> 01:17:04,773 Speaker 16: It. 1474 01:17:05,333 --> 01:17:08,333 Speaker 4: Nice, Hey i'm growing kokerberts for the first time at 1475 01:17:08,373 --> 01:17:12,533 Speaker 4: my place this. Summer But I'M i Think i've got 1476 01:17:12,573 --> 01:17:16,013 Speaker 4: them slightly too close to the to the, tomatoes because 1477 01:17:16,013 --> 01:17:18,493 Speaker 4: they're obviously just, well they're just reaching for each other 1478 01:17:18,533 --> 01:17:21,293 Speaker 4: the whole. Time they want to be best. Mates, oh you, know. 1479 01:17:21,333 --> 01:17:23,933 Speaker 9: But that should, know that shouldn't be too. Problematic as 1480 01:17:23,933 --> 01:17:27,093 Speaker 9: long as they're pollinators in the area you will Have 1481 01:17:27,213 --> 01:17:28,213 Speaker 9: you'll be fine with the ku. 1482 01:17:28,293 --> 01:17:31,293 Speaker 4: Kurbets, Okay so my cucumbers and my it doesn't matter 1483 01:17:31,293 --> 01:17:33,533 Speaker 4: if my cucumber plant and my tomato plant ends up 1484 01:17:33,573 --> 01:17:35,733 Speaker 4: sort of making friends with each other and the vines 1485 01:17:35,773 --> 01:17:36,973 Speaker 4: wrap around each other and the hold. 1486 01:17:37,053 --> 01:17:40,093 Speaker 9: Hand okay Till marthas will be high enough to let it. 1487 01:17:40,173 --> 01:17:42,573 Speaker 4: Go, yeah oh very. Good, Okay, hey thank you so. 1488 01:17:42,693 --> 01:17:45,613 Speaker 4: Much ruthe catching in next. WEEK i passed in the 1489 01:17:45,613 --> 01:17:48,093 Speaker 4: garden for us this morning after eleven o'clock on news. 1490 01:17:48,093 --> 01:17:51,973 Speaker 4: Talks he'd be our travel correspondents taking us To dairy 1491 01:17:52,013 --> 01:17:55,013 Speaker 4: Slash London. Dairy this place has got a dual name. 1492 01:17:55,053 --> 01:17:58,573 Speaker 4: Now of, course as well as, that our book reviewer 1493 01:17:58,613 --> 01:18:00,613 Speaker 4: has her picks for this, week a couple of great 1494 01:18:00,653 --> 01:18:04,933 Speaker 4: reads for the keen reader in your. Household heating Into. 1495 01:18:04,973 --> 01:18:08,613 Speaker 4: Christmas it's almost eleven. O'clock news is Next Saturday. Morning 1496 01:18:08,813 --> 01:18:10,893 Speaker 4: I'm Jack. Tame this Is News. Talks he'd Be. 1497 01:18:14,333 --> 01:18:18,173 Speaker 3: Saturday morning With Jack, team keeping the, conversation going through 1498 01:18:18,173 --> 01:18:19,173 Speaker 3: the weekend News. 1499 01:18:19,253 --> 01:18:19,813 Speaker 8: Talks he'd Be. 1500 01:18:44,093 --> 01:18:47,333 Speaker 4: Jode if you are just joining us this, morning it's 1501 01:18:47,333 --> 01:18:50,133 Speaker 4: so good to have You Jack tame with you through 1502 01:18:50,173 --> 01:18:52,733 Speaker 4: the midday On News. Talks he'd Be big day in 1503 01:18:52,773 --> 01:18:56,173 Speaker 4: the capital, Today big day for Welly. Wood so the 1504 01:18:56,293 --> 01:19:00,733 Speaker 4: timing For, Avatar fire And ash is that everything sort 1505 01:19:00,773 --> 01:19:04,373 Speaker 4: of kicks off late, afternoon early. EVENING i think about 1506 01:19:04,373 --> 01:19:06,813 Speaker 4: four pm they're starting to have some of the red carpet. 1507 01:19:06,933 --> 01:19:09,213 Speaker 4: Rivals it's a bit of a warm up for the. 1508 01:19:09,213 --> 01:19:14,133 Speaker 4: Crowd five pm maybe the maybe the actual guests start 1509 01:19:14,213 --> 01:19:16,493 Speaker 4: arriving a little bit after, that like six quarter past 1510 01:19:16,533 --> 01:19:18,853 Speaker 4: six this. Evening but JUST i mean it's the first 1511 01:19:18,893 --> 01:19:21,493 Speaker 4: BIG premi yere they've had In wellington for ten. YEARS i, 1512 01:19:21,493 --> 01:19:23,933 Speaker 4: think so, yeah it's going to be really good to see. 1513 01:19:23,933 --> 01:19:26,453 Speaker 4: That you got that In, Wellington christmas in The park 1514 01:19:26,493 --> 01:19:29,253 Speaker 4: and the Nine. Tonight so lots of bits and pieces 1515 01:19:29,253 --> 01:19:32,493 Speaker 4: happening around the country. Today now before a day on 1516 01:19:32,613 --> 01:19:34,813 Speaker 4: News STALKS, creb we're going to catch up with our music. 1517 01:19:34,853 --> 01:19:36,893 Speaker 4: REVIEWER i, know at this time of year we're usually 1518 01:19:36,893 --> 01:19:40,413 Speaker 4: doing lists of everything the big you, know the top 1519 01:19:40,493 --> 01:19:42,813 Speaker 4: ten songs of the, year Your spotify list of the, 1520 01:19:42,893 --> 01:19:44,773 Speaker 4: year the best films of the, year et, cetera et. 1521 01:19:44,853 --> 01:19:49,613 Speaker 4: Cetera he's chosen the worst things for music fans in 1522 01:19:49,653 --> 01:19:51,973 Speaker 4: twenty twenty. Five he's not been too grinchy about it, 1523 01:19:52,013 --> 01:19:54,373 Speaker 4: all but he's he's got a few different bits and 1524 01:19:54,373 --> 01:19:58,373 Speaker 4: pieces because when you break it, down there are several 1525 01:19:58,573 --> 01:20:01,973 Speaker 4: phenomena in twenty twenty five that have been kind of 1526 01:20:02,013 --> 01:20:04,133 Speaker 4: rubbish for music. Fans so he's going to talk through 1527 01:20:04,213 --> 01:20:07,053 Speaker 4: that very. Shortly our travel correspondent will be in soon 1528 01:20:08,293 --> 01:20:11,533 Speaker 4: with his favorite bits of dairy Slash london dairy In 1529 01:20:11,733 --> 01:20:14,693 Speaker 4: ireland Now i've got a duel, name of, course so 1530 01:20:14,733 --> 01:20:17,933 Speaker 4: he'll give us a bit of detail about. That and 1531 01:20:18,173 --> 01:20:21,013 Speaker 4: we've got your book picks this weekend as, well Including 1532 01:20:21,093 --> 01:20:24,133 Speaker 4: quantum Of, menace which sounds like a fantastic read for 1533 01:20:25,013 --> 01:20:28,013 Speaker 4: any Big James bond fans in your. Family, right it's 1534 01:20:28,293 --> 01:20:31,813 Speaker 4: nine past eleven in time to catch up with our 1535 01:20:31,853 --> 01:20:35,933 Speaker 4: sustainability Correspondent Kate hall is here with us this. MORNING 1536 01:20:36,413 --> 01:20:39,533 Speaker 4: a good. Morning what are you counting down the days To? 1537 01:20:39,613 --> 01:20:41,013 Speaker 4: Christmas are you into it in a big? 1538 01:20:41,053 --> 01:20:45,013 Speaker 17: Way i'm into in an a medium, Way i'd call. 1539 01:20:45,053 --> 01:20:49,373 Speaker 4: IT i would have thought any excuse for unfettered consumption 1540 01:20:49,573 --> 01:20:50,773 Speaker 4: would be right up the, Rally. 1541 01:20:50,853 --> 01:20:56,213 Speaker 17: Kate christmas mixed feelings because you can do an Awesome 1542 01:20:56,253 --> 01:20:59,053 Speaker 17: christmas that has great impact and do some, fun sustainable 1543 01:20:59,133 --> 01:21:01,773 Speaker 17: da why, Things but just looking at all the, sales 1544 01:21:01,773 --> 01:21:05,173 Speaker 17: EVEN i get bombarded with pop up it just makes 1545 01:21:05,173 --> 01:21:05,933 Speaker 17: you feel it sick. 1546 01:21:06,013 --> 01:21:08,933 Speaker 4: Sometimes, yeah as your First christmas with your daughter, though 1547 01:21:09,053 --> 01:21:10,933 Speaker 4: that'll be. Cool, yes, YEAH i mean, SURE i have 1548 01:21:11,013 --> 01:21:15,813 Speaker 4: absolutely no idea what's going, on but that's not the. Point. Yeah, Anyway, 1549 01:21:16,013 --> 01:21:19,893 Speaker 4: hey you've got some really useful little tips for us 1550 01:21:19,893 --> 01:21:22,813 Speaker 4: this morning on sustainable activities to do over the summer 1551 01:21:22,893 --> 01:21:26,293 Speaker 4: break and as well as you know a bit of 1552 01:21:26,333 --> 01:21:28,693 Speaker 4: a time to kind of relax and, disconnect and also 1553 01:21:28,773 --> 01:21:30,493 Speaker 4: with those hours in the, day there's a bit of 1554 01:21:30,493 --> 01:21:33,213 Speaker 4: opportunity to go and do some things that you, know 1555 01:21:33,373 --> 01:21:36,173 Speaker 4: can can push sustainability forward a little. Bit so let's 1556 01:21:36,173 --> 01:21:37,573 Speaker 4: begin with a waste. 1557 01:21:37,693 --> 01:21:40,493 Speaker 17: Audit, yes this is one that takes a bit of 1558 01:21:40,533 --> 01:21:42,213 Speaker 17: time and a bit of, thought so it's a great 1559 01:21:42,253 --> 01:21:45,133 Speaker 17: one to do over the summer. Break so a waste 1560 01:21:45,133 --> 01:21:48,053 Speaker 17: audit generally it can look like how big or smaller 1561 01:21:48,133 --> 01:21:51,653 Speaker 17: you want it, to BUT i advise looking through a 1562 01:21:51,653 --> 01:21:54,813 Speaker 17: week's worth of your, waist so keep it. Asize and 1563 01:21:54,853 --> 01:21:57,013 Speaker 17: then when you look through and you can find kind 1564 01:21:57,053 --> 01:22:00,893 Speaker 17: of the lowest thing for the main waste. Culprits it may, 1565 01:22:00,893 --> 01:22:03,653 Speaker 17: be you, know a plastic bread, bag and so you may, Go, 1566 01:22:03,813 --> 01:22:06,693 Speaker 17: okay how CAN i do this more low. Waste i'm 1567 01:22:06,693 --> 01:22:08,573 Speaker 17: going to go to my local. Bakery i'm going to 1568 01:22:08,573 --> 01:22:10,933 Speaker 17: bring my favorite bread bag and that's What i'm going 1569 01:22:10,973 --> 01:22:13,213 Speaker 17: to do in the new. Year or you could find 1570 01:22:13,213 --> 01:22:17,413 Speaker 17: a bread, recipe anything that kind of the main waste 1571 01:22:18,213 --> 01:22:20,613 Speaker 17: kind of culprits are really good to start with first 1572 01:22:20,613 --> 01:22:23,133 Speaker 17: because you're reducing a lot of your waste all at. 1573 01:22:23,173 --> 01:22:25,693 Speaker 17: Once so, yeah a waste or it can you, know 1574 01:22:26,013 --> 01:22:29,053 Speaker 17: can sound a little, messy and if it is, messy 1575 01:22:29,093 --> 01:22:31,813 Speaker 17: that's probably a big sign you need to start composting 1576 01:22:32,293 --> 01:22:36,293 Speaker 17: and dealing worth your organic waste because your rubbish bin 1577 01:22:36,373 --> 01:22:38,933 Speaker 17: should actually not really smell or be messy if you're 1578 01:22:39,053 --> 01:22:41,253 Speaker 17: dealing with organic waste. Properly and that's another great one 1579 01:22:41,293 --> 01:22:42,373 Speaker 17: to do is start a. 1580 01:22:42,333 --> 01:22:46,053 Speaker 4: Compost nice oh yeah, true, okay, yeah even at the 1581 01:22:46,093 --> 01:22:47,693 Speaker 4: time of. YEAR i mean stuff's going to be composting 1582 01:22:47,693 --> 01:22:50,533 Speaker 4: pretty quickly in the heat a, yes, yep, yeah it's very. 1583 01:22:50,573 --> 01:22:52,413 Speaker 17: REWARDING i mean it can be a little bit more 1584 01:22:52,693 --> 01:22:55,133 Speaker 17: stinky if you don't have enough brown. Matter so that's 1585 01:22:55,173 --> 01:22:58,253 Speaker 17: your toilet rolls and paper that's really need to add 1586 01:22:58,253 --> 01:23:01,053 Speaker 17: a lot of that over, summer otherwise the slides and 1587 01:23:01,093 --> 01:23:03,613 Speaker 17: things can can get a bit too. Much but, yeah 1588 01:23:03,653 --> 01:23:07,693 Speaker 17: starting a compost is a really good. Idea composts the 1589 01:23:07,773 --> 01:23:10,973 Speaker 17: cashi worm. Farm, again when you have the extra time over, 1590 01:23:10,973 --> 01:23:13,693 Speaker 17: summer this is you, know the opportunity to do. 1591 01:23:13,733 --> 01:23:15,693 Speaker 4: It and if you're in the, garden you might as 1592 01:23:15,733 --> 01:23:16,533 Speaker 4: well do some. 1593 01:23:16,573 --> 01:23:20,653 Speaker 17: Gardening, yes, yes that's. Small if you have never grown 1594 01:23:20,693 --> 01:23:23,653 Speaker 17: anything in your life that with you, know you may 1595 01:23:23,693 --> 01:23:26,813 Speaker 17: sat with some. Herbs you, know even if you're in an, 1596 01:23:26,813 --> 01:23:29,853 Speaker 17: apartment you can have space maybe on your windowsill for 1597 01:23:29,973 --> 01:23:34,013 Speaker 17: a few just get stuck into, yeah growing something that 1598 01:23:34,053 --> 01:23:35,133 Speaker 17: you don't have to buy at the. 1599 01:23:35,173 --> 01:23:39,053 Speaker 4: Supermarket it's basically impossible not to just grow an enormous 1600 01:23:39,373 --> 01:23:43,133 Speaker 4: tomato plant right, Now like it's almost. IMPOSSIBLE i just 1601 01:23:43,173 --> 01:23:46,413 Speaker 4: cannot believe how quickly tomatoes grow every. YEAR i, think you, 1602 01:23:46,453 --> 01:23:49,213 Speaker 4: know you, know you like, go you water the plants 1603 01:23:49,213 --> 01:23:51,173 Speaker 4: at like eight thirty at, night you come out at 1604 01:23:51,213 --> 01:23:53,053 Speaker 4: six o'clock the next, morning you're, like, oh it's just 1605 01:23:53,133 --> 01:23:54,613 Speaker 4: it's growing a, foot, okay. 1606 01:23:54,893 --> 01:24:00,213 Speaker 17: Totally. Yeah my favorite is compost, tomatoes the kind of, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1607 01:24:00,893 --> 01:24:03,253 Speaker 17: Yeah i've got a few, that, yeah grow out through 1608 01:24:03,333 --> 01:24:06,573 Speaker 17: kind of the little vents and so it's just a, 1609 01:24:06,773 --> 01:24:07,613 Speaker 17: yeah free tomato. 1610 01:24:07,693 --> 01:24:08,213 Speaker 2: Plants yeah. 1611 01:24:08,333 --> 01:24:12,613 Speaker 4: Nice so, okay if you have your compost set, up 1612 01:24:12,613 --> 01:24:14,453 Speaker 4: you're doing a bit of. Gardening but you want to 1613 01:24:14,493 --> 01:24:16,173 Speaker 4: go even, further you could be picking your own. 1614 01:24:16,213 --> 01:24:16,493 Speaker 2: Fruit. 1615 01:24:17,133 --> 01:24:19,333 Speaker 17: YES i think this is a fun one that everyone 1616 01:24:19,573 --> 01:24:22,213 Speaker 17: seems to do at some point during the, summer is 1617 01:24:22,333 --> 01:24:25,973 Speaker 17: go to a strawberry field and put your own. FRUIT 1618 01:24:26,093 --> 01:24:28,853 Speaker 17: i do this in quite a full on way BECAUSE 1619 01:24:29,053 --> 01:24:31,853 Speaker 17: i try to bring as many buckets as possible and 1620 01:24:32,373 --> 01:24:34,493 Speaker 17: get a whole lot THAT i can freeze them SO 1621 01:24:34,533 --> 01:24:37,333 Speaker 17: i don't have to buy berries and packaging and a 1622 01:24:37,333 --> 01:24:39,893 Speaker 17: lot of the ones that we have at the supermarket 1623 01:24:39,893 --> 01:24:42,093 Speaker 17: and the frozen section that we get. 1624 01:24:41,933 --> 01:24:42,493 Speaker 6: You, know all year. 1625 01:24:42,493 --> 01:24:45,373 Speaker 17: Around for, us moodies and stuff are actually from, overseas 1626 01:24:45,853 --> 01:24:48,733 Speaker 17: so it's a great opportunity to make them. Yourself even 1627 01:24:48,773 --> 01:24:52,013 Speaker 17: if you're into, preserving you could preserve the berries and 1628 01:24:52,093 --> 01:24:54,893 Speaker 17: just kind of stuck up for winter stores so you 1629 01:24:54,933 --> 01:24:56,173 Speaker 17: can still enjoy summer. 1630 01:24:56,213 --> 01:25:00,053 Speaker 4: Fruits all of us love going to the beach over, 1631 01:25:00,093 --> 01:25:02,253 Speaker 4: summer and you, reckon there's a really simple way for 1632 01:25:02,333 --> 01:25:03,333 Speaker 4: us to give back a little. 1633 01:25:03,373 --> 01:25:07,773 Speaker 17: Bit, yes there's often beach plain apps that are organized 1634 01:25:07,773 --> 01:25:10,533 Speaker 17: by your local, groups but you can also just do 1635 01:25:10,533 --> 01:25:12,733 Speaker 17: a diy. ONE i, think you, know we spend so 1636 01:25:12,773 --> 01:25:15,573 Speaker 17: much time at the beach and it's nice when it is. 1637 01:25:15,653 --> 01:25:19,613 Speaker 17: CLEAN i, Know i've seen some pretty horrific waiste and 1638 01:25:19,733 --> 01:25:21,973 Speaker 17: mess left behind from people who think they can enjoy 1639 01:25:21,973 --> 01:25:24,773 Speaker 17: your day at the beach and leave their, rubbish which 1640 01:25:24,773 --> 01:25:27,613 Speaker 17: is really. Unfortunate BUT i think if we're enjoying, something 1641 01:25:27,773 --> 01:25:30,933 Speaker 17: it's only fair that we give. Back and it may sound, 1642 01:25:31,093 --> 01:25:34,013 Speaker 17: like you, know it's my, Holidays, Kate i'm, off you, 1643 01:25:34,053 --> 01:25:36,573 Speaker 17: know but this is our country and we need to 1644 01:25:36,613 --> 01:25:38,493 Speaker 17: be proud of. It and we need to look after 1645 01:25:38,573 --> 01:25:42,853 Speaker 17: their natural, environment especially when it's so. Busy so, yeah 1646 01:25:42,973 --> 01:25:44,933 Speaker 17: just do a diy dex clean. Up if you don't 1647 01:25:44,933 --> 01:25:47,573 Speaker 17: want to get to an organized, one just take a 1648 01:25:47,653 --> 01:25:50,813 Speaker 17: rubbish bag and when you're out there next just you, 1649 01:25:50,813 --> 01:25:55,173 Speaker 17: know allocate thirty, minutes even even ten. Minutes anything is 1650 01:25:55,733 --> 01:25:56,133 Speaker 17: better than. 1651 01:25:56,173 --> 01:25:59,933 Speaker 4: Nothing and if you're in summer barbecues over the next few, Weeks, 1652 01:25:59,973 --> 01:26:00,733 Speaker 4: kate what are you going to be. 1653 01:26:00,733 --> 01:26:07,893 Speaker 17: Doing i'm going to be starting polite and positive conversation about. 1654 01:26:07,933 --> 01:26:12,253 Speaker 17: Sustainability SO i, think you, know THERE'S i think sometimes 1655 01:26:12,253 --> 01:26:16,013 Speaker 17: at These christmas, events you, know conversation status that helpful 1656 01:26:16,173 --> 01:26:19,613 Speaker 17: with your family. Members you may not talk too so. 1657 01:26:19,653 --> 01:26:22,813 Speaker 17: Often So i'm just throwing a. Conversation start out to 1658 01:26:23,293 --> 01:26:26,253 Speaker 17: everyone who's, listening to talk about you, know one sustainable 1659 01:26:26,293 --> 01:26:28,533 Speaker 17: thing that you've done this, year or you know a 1660 01:26:28,613 --> 01:26:31,413 Speaker 17: random sustainable thing you Heard jack And kate talk about on. 1661 01:26:31,893 --> 01:26:34,693 Speaker 17: Air just start the conversation and see where it. Goes 1662 01:26:35,893 --> 01:26:39,573 Speaker 17: that's how culture, changes you, know to be more sustainable and, 1663 01:26:39,613 --> 01:26:41,173 Speaker 17: aware we need to keep talking about. 1664 01:26:41,173 --> 01:26:43,253 Speaker 4: It good on, you, Kay, hey thank you so much 1665 01:26:43,333 --> 01:26:45,613 Speaker 4: for everything this. Year have a wonderful, summer won't you, 1666 01:26:46,133 --> 01:26:48,933 Speaker 4: yeah you, too and yeah really look forward to talking 1667 01:26:48,973 --> 01:26:51,333 Speaker 4: again really. Soon Kate. Haule you can find her on 1668 01:26:51,413 --> 01:26:54,453 Speaker 4: the social media platforms by searching Ethically. Kate all of 1669 01:26:54,493 --> 01:26:57,013 Speaker 4: her tips for a more sustainable summer will be up 1670 01:26:57,013 --> 01:26:58,733 Speaker 4: on the news talks he'd be. Websites And i've got 1671 01:26:58,773 --> 01:27:02,013 Speaker 4: to say that point around the beach clean apps is 1672 01:27:02,133 --> 01:27:05,933 Speaker 4: so so. Accurate SO i MENTIONED i went my first 1673 01:27:05,973 --> 01:27:08,373 Speaker 4: proper ocean swim of twenty twenty five the other. Day 1674 01:27:08,373 --> 01:27:12,413 Speaker 4: we just popped it over to tuckupin a, beach and 1675 01:27:12,533 --> 01:27:15,653 Speaker 4: WHILE i was in the, water my wife just went 1676 01:27:16,013 --> 01:27:18,253 Speaker 4: up and down the, beach, honestly only over a stretch 1677 01:27:18,373 --> 01:27:22,933 Speaker 4: probably of about fifty meters of, sand and she was 1678 01:27:22,973 --> 01:27:26,213 Speaker 4: going back and forth for about ten minutes or fifteen 1679 01:27:26,253 --> 01:27:29,173 Speaker 4: minutes as the water was lapping. In so here's what she, 1680 01:27:29,253 --> 01:27:33,813 Speaker 4: found and she collected it. All five pairs of, sunglasses 1681 01:27:35,013 --> 01:27:41,773 Speaker 4: two pairs of, goggles AN, id a hop, card plastic disposable, 1682 01:27:41,893 --> 01:27:47,573 Speaker 4: vape a set of, headphones a, shoe and a small plastic. 1683 01:27:47,653 --> 01:27:52,493 Speaker 4: Doll that's. Crazy she found THAT i reckon, honestly in 1684 01:27:52,493 --> 01:27:55,213 Speaker 4: about fifteen or twenty minutes and she collected them. All 1685 01:27:55,253 --> 01:27:57,173 Speaker 4: and you know lifted them above the high tide line and. 1686 01:27:57,173 --> 01:28:00,933 Speaker 4: Stuff but, yeah just unbelievable how much trash there was 1687 01:28:00,973 --> 01:28:04,373 Speaker 4: even in you, know what is a pretty pretty beautiful, 1688 01:28:04,413 --> 01:28:06,373 Speaker 4: beach you, know and not a beach that we necessarily 1689 01:28:06,533 --> 01:28:09,693 Speaker 4: think of as being massively. Polluted but not so if 1690 01:28:09,733 --> 01:28:11,453 Speaker 4: you do have, time even when you're at the, BEACH 1691 01:28:11,493 --> 01:28:13,573 Speaker 4: i reckon doesn't even need to be a big formal cleanup. 1692 01:28:13,613 --> 01:28:15,173 Speaker 4: Thing if you go for a bit of a swim 1693 01:28:15,253 --> 01:28:17,813 Speaker 4: and you're just warming up afterwards walking along the, beach 1694 01:28:17,853 --> 01:28:19,373 Speaker 4: you're actually doing a bit of a cleanup as you 1695 01:28:19,413 --> 01:28:21,173 Speaker 4: go and as you warm up under the sun's. RAYS 1696 01:28:21,213 --> 01:28:23,853 Speaker 4: i think makes so much, sense. Right a couple of, 1697 01:28:23,853 --> 01:28:27,173 Speaker 4: minutes our travel correspondent is taking us To Dairy Slash 1698 01:28:27,213 --> 01:28:31,293 Speaker 4: London dairy seventeen past. Eleven you with jacktaim On NEWSTALK Zb. 1699 01:28:33,093 --> 01:28:34,373 Speaker 1: Travel With Windy Woo. 1700 01:28:34,453 --> 01:28:35,973 Speaker 5: Tours where the world. 1701 01:28:35,813 --> 01:28:36,533 Speaker 12: Is yours for? 1702 01:28:36,813 --> 01:28:41,893 Speaker 4: Now My yardley's our travel Corresponding good, Morning good. 1703 01:28:41,653 --> 01:28:44,373 Speaker 8: Morning, Jack thank you so much for the splendid. Card 1704 01:28:44,573 --> 01:28:47,293 Speaker 8: by the, way Did Erica stanford have anything to do 1705 01:28:47,373 --> 01:28:48,413 Speaker 8: in its? Construction? 1706 01:28:49,533 --> 01:28:49,693 Speaker 2: Ah? 1707 01:28:50,853 --> 01:28:51,933 Speaker 4: No why why do you? 1708 01:28:51,973 --> 01:28:57,133 Speaker 8: Ask, Well i've been wondering BECAUSE i know you best 1709 01:28:57,173 --> 01:29:00,813 Speaker 8: yourself up about your appalling handwriting. Standards, yeah BUT i 1710 01:29:00,853 --> 01:29:03,813 Speaker 8: think there's been a dramatic increase in your. Standards. Jack 1711 01:29:03,893 --> 01:29:07,773 Speaker 8: i've actually Done i've done a lie by line audit 1712 01:29:08,133 --> 01:29:11,813 Speaker 8: of your. CARD i have run the ruler over your 1713 01:29:11,853 --> 01:29:14,253 Speaker 8: card this, morning AND, i without a word OF i 1714 01:29:14,293 --> 01:29:18,413 Speaker 8: can assure you that every single line could not be. 1715 01:29:18,613 --> 01:29:19,813 Speaker 8: Straighter oh that's. 1716 01:29:19,813 --> 01:29:22,253 Speaker 4: Good that's. Good i'm pleased that the lines are. Straight 1717 01:29:22,293 --> 01:29:25,853 Speaker 4: but as for the actual outlines of the, letters it's 1718 01:29:25,933 --> 01:29:27,053 Speaker 4: a bit different. 1719 01:29:27,093 --> 01:29:29,933 Speaker 8: Story, YEAH i think it AS i think it is 1720 01:29:30,013 --> 01:29:30,373 Speaker 8: top of the. 1721 01:29:30,373 --> 01:29:31,253 Speaker 5: CLASS i really. 1722 01:29:31,253 --> 01:29:33,213 Speaker 8: DO i could not fault. 1723 01:29:33,253 --> 01:29:37,213 Speaker 4: It, Okay, LOOK i will. GLADLY i will gladly accept that, 1724 01:29:37,333 --> 01:29:41,773 Speaker 4: praise but knowing that deep, down IF i can't read 1725 01:29:41,813 --> 01:29:45,293 Speaker 4: my own, handwriting THEN i it's fear fear that very 1726 01:29:45,293 --> 01:29:47,013 Speaker 4: few others are going to be able. To But i'm 1727 01:29:47,053 --> 01:29:49,373 Speaker 4: pleased that you could on this, occasion and given how 1728 01:29:49,453 --> 01:29:53,093 Speaker 4: much you Love, Christmas, MIKE i always ensure. THIS i, 1729 01:29:53,173 --> 01:29:55,533 Speaker 4: try and you, know do my very best to slowly 1730 01:29:55,653 --> 01:29:59,093 Speaker 4: spell things out and make it as legible as. Possible, 1731 01:29:59,453 --> 01:30:03,173 Speaker 4: hey we're focusing on dairy Slash London derry this. Morning 1732 01:30:03,773 --> 01:30:08,133 Speaker 4: is that dual name status for The irish border town 1733 01:30:08,213 --> 01:30:10,053 Speaker 4: is that widely, embraced. 1734 01:30:11,533 --> 01:30:14,493 Speaker 8: Well as the Character Aaron says And Dairy Girls, JACK 1735 01:30:14,813 --> 01:30:17,773 Speaker 8: i come from a place Called dairy Or London, dairy 1736 01:30:17,893 --> 01:30:21,853 Speaker 8: depending on your. Persuasion and it was interesting, actually AS 1737 01:30:21,853 --> 01:30:24,973 Speaker 8: i drove towards the city about six weeks, AGO i 1738 01:30:25,053 --> 01:30:29,493 Speaker 8: noticed most highway signs have had The londondery name scratched 1739 01:30:29,493 --> 01:30:33,293 Speaker 8: out or painted, over and even WHILE i was in, 1740 01:30:33,373 --> 01:30:37,733 Speaker 8: town most LOCALS i spoke to resolutely called the city Simply. 1741 01:30:38,013 --> 01:30:42,413 Speaker 8: Dairy but either, way it's a legendary. 1742 01:30:42,493 --> 01:30:48,213 Speaker 4: Place, yes, yes a Legend London dairy. Place so what 1743 01:30:48,733 --> 01:30:53,093 Speaker 4: has what has made it such a such a booming visitor. 1744 01:30:53,133 --> 01:30:57,133 Speaker 8: Destination, yeah it's certainly having a, moment AND i think 1745 01:30:57,133 --> 01:31:01,173 Speaker 8: it's partly fueled by popular culture LIKE tv Shows The Dairy. 1746 01:31:01,213 --> 01:31:05,093 Speaker 8: Girls but then of course it's history's long, shadow just 1747 01:31:05,333 --> 01:31:09,693 Speaker 8: so much potent. History in a city that is about 1748 01:31:09,733 --> 01:31:13,813 Speaker 8: the size Of New. Plymouth it is slashed by this enormous, 1749 01:31:13,893 --> 01:31:16,973 Speaker 8: river The River, foil and one of the great symbols 1750 01:31:16,973 --> 01:31:20,933 Speaker 8: of reconciliation in the city is THE eu Funded Peace 1751 01:31:21,013 --> 01:31:27,653 Speaker 8: bridge across The. Foil it's this really, striking s shaped pedestrian, 1752 01:31:27,693 --> 01:31:30,813 Speaker 8: bridge and it very much bonds both sides of the city. 1753 01:31:30,853 --> 01:31:33,493 Speaker 8: Together and WHAT i love about it is it actually 1754 01:31:33,573 --> 01:31:38,613 Speaker 8: spills out Into Ebrington, square which is now this, magnificent 1755 01:31:38,853 --> 01:31:42,973 Speaker 8: magnificent public. Space it was formerly a formidable. Place it 1756 01:31:43,053 --> 01:31:46,613 Speaker 8: was The British army, barracks but it's all been repurposed 1757 01:31:46,653 --> 01:31:50,533 Speaker 8: for public. Use and, yeah it's just a very tangible 1758 01:31:50,573 --> 01:31:50,933 Speaker 8: sign of. 1759 01:31:50,973 --> 01:31:54,013 Speaker 4: Progress, yeah oh, nice it's, Yeah i'd like you, say 1760 01:31:54,013 --> 01:31:57,413 Speaker 4: there's so much kind of incredible history there and it's 1761 01:31:57,453 --> 01:32:00,293 Speaker 4: one Of europe's most impressive walled, cities right. 1762 01:32:01,533 --> 01:32:05,053 Speaker 8: Totally, YEAH a huge draw is to walk those walls 1763 01:32:05,093 --> 01:32:08,173 Speaker 8: that lessu the old. City they were built by The 1764 01:32:08,173 --> 01:32:10,773 Speaker 8: british after they send the locals packing back in the sixteen, 1765 01:32:10,853 --> 01:32:14,053 Speaker 8: hundreds and then The brits flooded the area With protestant 1766 01:32:14,133 --> 01:32:17,213 Speaker 8: settlers and then built this formidable wall around the old. 1767 01:32:17,293 --> 01:32:20,773 Speaker 8: Town the. Cannons that's what really struck, Me, jack WHEN 1768 01:32:20,773 --> 01:32:24,133 Speaker 8: i was walking around the. Walls the cannons still stand 1769 01:32:24,573 --> 01:32:29,773 Speaker 8: sentinel on those, walls Including Roaring, meg which was the 1770 01:32:29,813 --> 01:32:33,453 Speaker 8: pride Of, britain renowned for the fury of its firing 1771 01:32:34,013 --> 01:32:37,813 Speaker 8: And Roaring meg was the canon that was very much 1772 01:32:37,853 --> 01:32:42,173 Speaker 8: instrumental in repelling all attempts By Irish catholics to lay 1773 01:32:42,693 --> 01:32:45,213 Speaker 8: siege to the walled. City so, yeah you can see 1774 01:32:45,253 --> 01:32:48,293 Speaker 8: all of these nuggets of history around that walled. 1775 01:32:48,733 --> 01:32:52,253 Speaker 4: Walk did the first catwalk originating dairy. 1776 01:32:53,333 --> 01:32:56,613 Speaker 8: Well Amazing. JACK i took a walk around the walls 1777 01:32:56,653 --> 01:33:00,933 Speaker 8: with the most commanding, Guide martin. McCrossin so he's been 1778 01:33:02,013 --> 01:33:05,093 Speaker 8: slinging dairy stories with the world from these walls for. 1779 01:33:05,213 --> 01:33:09,173 Speaker 8: Decades but, yeah he was such such the most consummate 1780 01:33:09,293 --> 01:33:13,813 Speaker 8: storyteller and beyond all the talk of the, battles he 1781 01:33:14,013 --> 01:33:17,333 Speaker 8: just prized open so many curious nuggets for, me including 1782 01:33:18,013 --> 01:33:21,733 Speaker 8: this catwalk. Story so there is this big sweep of 1783 01:33:21,853 --> 01:33:25,293 Speaker 8: the walls that they call The Grand. Parade so go 1784 01:33:25,493 --> 01:33:28,413 Speaker 8: back to like The victorian era and you can imagine 1785 01:33:28,533 --> 01:33:32,173 Speaker 8: that The Grand parade was the place where you came 1786 01:33:32,293 --> 01:33:36,453 Speaker 8: to be. Seen and according To, martin the story goes 1787 01:33:36,533 --> 01:33:39,933 Speaker 8: that there was this visiting newspaper writer From london and 1788 01:33:40,133 --> 01:33:44,333 Speaker 8: he noted that people walked like cats on this part 1789 01:33:44,413 --> 01:33:48,493 Speaker 8: of the, walls dressed in their finest garb as they paraded. 1790 01:33:48,533 --> 01:33:52,613 Speaker 8: Themselves and that claim is that that is how the 1791 01:33:52,773 --> 01:33:57,813 Speaker 8: term catwalk was. Coined so funnily, enough WHEN i was 1792 01:33:57,893 --> 01:34:00,493 Speaker 8: there six weeks, ago you had a whod of young 1793 01:34:00,613 --> 01:34:04,493 Speaker 8: selfie seekers on The Grand, parade, posing pouting and flauncing, 1794 01:34:04,573 --> 01:34:08,373 Speaker 8: themselves probably more flesh than in The victorian. Era BUT i, 1795 01:34:08,413 --> 01:34:10,933 Speaker 8: thought you, know not a lot's actually changed on those. 1796 01:34:11,133 --> 01:34:12,493 Speaker 8: Walls it's still the. 1797 01:34:12,613 --> 01:34:15,573 Speaker 4: Catwalk that's, great what a great little. Story one of 1798 01:34:15,613 --> 01:34:20,173 Speaker 4: those things is never entirely possible to prove as, well that's. True, 1799 01:34:20,573 --> 01:34:23,853 Speaker 4: yes how absolving is the is the Bog side. 1800 01:34:23,893 --> 01:34:28,573 Speaker 8: Neighborhood ah so, Sobering, JACK i was thinking in bed this. 1801 01:34:28,653 --> 01:34:32,373 Speaker 8: Morning Sarah jevo was probably the most affect in CITY 1802 01:34:32,573 --> 01:34:36,893 Speaker 8: i visited last. Year Bog side And DAIRY i think 1803 01:34:36,933 --> 01:34:40,133 Speaker 8: would get that gong this. Year bogside was the tinder 1804 01:34:40,253 --> 01:34:44,293 Speaker 8: box of the, troubles most notably the Bloody sunday in. Massacre, 1805 01:34:44,733 --> 01:34:47,813 Speaker 8: yes AND i went to that, site that site of 1806 01:34:47,933 --> 01:34:51,893 Speaker 8: so much, outrage and that when you stand there and 1807 01:34:52,013 --> 01:34:55,373 Speaker 8: you read the stories of who was mowed down by The, 1808 01:34:55,413 --> 01:35:00,613 Speaker 8: british it just it just leaves you. Cold and then 1809 01:35:00,733 --> 01:35:05,493 Speaker 8: strolling through This catholic, neighborhood it's the enormous political murals 1810 01:35:06,013 --> 01:35:09,893 Speaker 8: that just span the side of tenement blocks from tip to, 1811 01:35:10,013 --> 01:35:13,493 Speaker 8: toe you, know maybe five six stories. High, yeah they 1812 01:35:13,533 --> 01:35:17,853 Speaker 8: are just so. Transfixing they like wounds that will not stop. 1813 01:35:17,933 --> 01:35:22,253 Speaker 8: Weeping so as much as there is definitely a sense of, 1814 01:35:22,973 --> 01:35:28,053 Speaker 8: peace prosperity And, dairy what can't be denied is that 1815 01:35:28,373 --> 01:35:32,453 Speaker 8: so many locals still staunchly Oppose british rule in these, 1816 01:35:32,493 --> 01:35:35,973 Speaker 8: parts even though both sides agree that an eye for 1817 01:35:36,013 --> 01:35:40,213 Speaker 8: an eye leaves everyone. Blind, yeah it really leaves you 1818 01:35:40,373 --> 01:35:42,333 Speaker 8: thinking for quite some time after a. 1819 01:35:42,413 --> 01:35:45,253 Speaker 4: Visit, yeah and you were there For, halloween, Right so 1820 01:35:45,533 --> 01:35:46,653 Speaker 4: how wild was? 1821 01:35:46,733 --> 01:35:50,173 Speaker 8: That, well it was quite a head clearer after the bog. Side, 1822 01:35:50,413 --> 01:35:56,613 Speaker 8: YES i never appreciate Why Dairy londondery is regarded as 1823 01:35:56,693 --> 01:36:00,733 Speaker 8: one of the world's Greatest halloween. Destinations it just absolutely 1824 01:36:01,253 --> 01:36:06,053 Speaker 8: bursts into life and after, life deep into the. Night and, 1825 01:36:06,453 --> 01:36:09,653 Speaker 8: yes it's all because of the Ancient celtic festival Of, 1826 01:36:09,813 --> 01:36:12,333 Speaker 8: sellwyn which was held On october thirty. One that was 1827 01:36:12,413 --> 01:36:15,933 Speaker 8: the last night of The celtic. Calendar so The celts 1828 01:36:15,973 --> 01:36:19,493 Speaker 8: believed that on that day that's when the worlds of 1829 01:36:19,573 --> 01:36:21,933 Speaker 8: the living and the dead were at their closest and 1830 01:36:22,013 --> 01:36:25,293 Speaker 8: the spirits could move between, them and they would wear 1831 01:36:25,333 --> 01:36:28,893 Speaker 8: disguises back in the day the Ancient, celts which of 1832 01:36:29,013 --> 01:36:32,613 Speaker 8: course has very much similarities To halloween. Costumes so fast 1833 01:36:32,613 --> 01:36:37,693 Speaker 8: forward today And dairy stages the most fantastical. Parade the 1834 01:36:37,733 --> 01:36:41,253 Speaker 8: whole city seems to be consumed in a sea of 1835 01:36:41,333 --> 01:36:45,093 Speaker 8: the most staggering. Costumes AND i just could not believe 1836 01:36:45,213 --> 01:36:48,133 Speaker 8: the lengths people would go to to get dressed up 1837 01:36:48,253 --> 01:36:51,493 Speaker 8: and made. Up it was like it was like A hollywood. Blockbuster, 1838 01:36:51,773 --> 01:36:55,133 Speaker 8: yeah you, know it's like a bigger bash Than. Christmas 1839 01:36:55,213 --> 01:36:58,413 Speaker 8: it's the big Show, halloween AND i reckon they'd give 1840 01:36:58,453 --> 01:37:00,613 Speaker 8: The Mexicans day of The dead to run for their money. 1841 01:37:00,693 --> 01:37:04,533 Speaker 4: Jackets it's funny because you don't you obviously think Of 1842 01:37:04,613 --> 01:37:08,373 Speaker 4: halloween as Being. American, yeah you, know and then it's 1843 01:37:08,693 --> 01:37:12,453 Speaker 4: just huge And. Derry yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah very. Good 1844 01:37:12,493 --> 01:37:14,573 Speaker 4: it sounds like a great. Place i'm really. ENVIOUS i 1845 01:37:14,573 --> 01:37:16,613 Speaker 4: would love to go, there would love to go. There, 1846 01:37:16,693 --> 01:37:20,013 Speaker 4: Yeah you've only whet my appetite more this. Morning thank 1847 01:37:20,013 --> 01:37:23,533 Speaker 4: you so, Much. Mike we will catch you again Next saturday. 1848 01:37:23,613 --> 01:37:25,653 Speaker 4: Morning and for all Of mike's tips on tripping Through 1849 01:37:25,733 --> 01:37:28,333 Speaker 4: Dairy London, derry you can go To News, TALKS heb 1850 01:37:28,533 --> 01:37:32,773 Speaker 4: dot co dot M z before, midday our music reviewer 1851 01:37:32,933 --> 01:37:35,733 Speaker 4: with the worst things for music fans in twenty twenty. 1852 01:37:35,813 --> 01:37:37,573 Speaker 4: Five we've got your book picks for this week as, 1853 01:37:37,613 --> 01:37:40,293 Speaker 4: well but next. Up Jason pine is here counting down 1854 01:37:40,293 --> 01:37:42,253 Speaker 4: To Weekend sport this, afternoon. 1855 01:37:45,573 --> 01:37:46,733 Speaker 5: Getting your weekends. 1856 01:37:46,813 --> 01:37:50,773 Speaker 1: Started It's saturday morning With Jack team On News TALKS 1857 01:37:50,893 --> 01:38:02,053 Speaker 1: edbis in. 1858 01:38:02,053 --> 01:38:04,693 Speaker 8: The Grieb Months News TALK. 1859 01:38:04,973 --> 01:38:07,653 Speaker 4: V you're probably wondering what that's. All that's. Okay we 1860 01:38:07,773 --> 01:38:09,293 Speaker 4: are playing you a bit Of Snoop dogg for good 1861 01:38:09,293 --> 01:38:12,253 Speaker 4: reason this. Morning because after his stellar presence for THE 1862 01:38:12,413 --> 01:38:14,973 Speaker 4: us at The Summer olympics In, paris last Year's Snoop 1863 01:38:15,053 --> 01:38:18,973 Speaker 4: dogg has been named an honorary coach For TEAM usa 1864 01:38:19,093 --> 01:38:21,773 Speaker 4: at next Year's Winter. Olympics So snoop was a special 1865 01:38:22,333 --> 01:38:27,253 Speaker 4: correspondent FOR nbc In. Paris he performed at the handover 1866 01:38:27,373 --> 01:38:31,693 Speaker 4: ceremony FOR la twenty twenty, eight but his honorary role 1867 01:38:31,893 --> 01:38:35,733 Speaker 4: will be celebrating and supporting The american athletes off the 1868 01:38:35,853 --> 01:38:41,413 Speaker 4: field of play next Year's Football World. Cup, Right Jason 1869 01:38:41,453 --> 01:38:43,853 Speaker 4: pine is taking us through the afternoon With Weekends sport 1870 01:38:43,933 --> 01:38:45,573 Speaker 4: and pineyer we should have had test cricket at the 1871 01:38:45,573 --> 01:38:49,013 Speaker 4: basin this. Afternoon but The Black, caps despite their injury, 1872 01:38:49,173 --> 01:38:51,493 Speaker 4: woes wrapped things up in three days they. 1873 01:38:51,613 --> 01:38:53,853 Speaker 10: Did, Indeed jacket's a beautiful day here in The. Capitol 1874 01:38:53,853 --> 01:38:55,933 Speaker 10: today would have been a nice day for lazing and 1875 01:38:56,053 --> 01:38:58,453 Speaker 10: lounging on the bank at the. Basin but, yeah, LOOK 1876 01:38:58,533 --> 01:39:01,053 Speaker 10: i did not expect This test to be over in three. 1877 01:39:01,173 --> 01:39:04,453 Speaker 10: Days WHEN i saw The West indies in Christ church 1878 01:39:04,533 --> 01:39:08,653 Speaker 10: show such incredible resilience backbone to you, know to fend 1879 01:39:08,733 --> 01:39:11,813 Speaker 10: off and albeit a depleted bowling attack on that last, 1880 01:39:11,893 --> 01:39:14,053 Speaker 10: DAY i, thought, right This West indies team's got a 1881 01:39:14,093 --> 01:39:16,213 Speaker 10: bit about. Them they can dig, in they can you, 1882 01:39:16,293 --> 01:39:19,413 Speaker 10: know they can make you, know make, us you, know 1883 01:39:19,573 --> 01:39:23,653 Speaker 10: perhaps reconsider our diffidence towards them as far As test 1884 01:39:23,733 --> 01:39:26,213 Speaker 10: matches are. Concerned but, no not at. All in the 1885 01:39:26,253 --> 01:39:28,693 Speaker 10: second innings In wellington they only batted for forty seven 1886 01:39:28,773 --> 01:39:32,653 Speaker 10: overs against again a depleted. Attack Blair tickner was the 1887 01:39:32,813 --> 01:39:35,853 Speaker 10: most experienced seamer in the side with Four, tests and 1888 01:39:35,973 --> 01:39:37,733 Speaker 10: of course he was ruled out with that shoulder injury 1889 01:39:37,773 --> 01:39:40,093 Speaker 10: in the first, inning so to be able to only 1890 01:39:40,173 --> 01:39:43,693 Speaker 10: bat for forty seven overs against a very Inexperienced test 1891 01:39:43,693 --> 01:39:46,573 Speaker 10: bowling ATTACK i think was quite disappointing. 1892 01:39:46,053 --> 01:39:46,493 Speaker 4: By The West. 1893 01:39:46,493 --> 01:39:49,173 Speaker 10: Indies flip it, though and we're starting to build a 1894 01:39:49,213 --> 01:39:51,693 Speaker 10: bit of, depth aren't we in our seam bowling. Ranks 1895 01:39:51,773 --> 01:39:53,693 Speaker 10: you look at the likes Of Jacob, duffy who you, 1896 01:39:53,733 --> 01:39:55,893 Speaker 10: know hadn't played A test match, before you, know the 1897 01:39:55,973 --> 01:39:57,973 Speaker 10: middle of this, year which seen him of the white ball, 1898 01:39:58,013 --> 01:40:01,373 Speaker 10: stuff but you know he's quickly become a pretty decent 1899 01:40:01,493 --> 01:40:04,853 Speaker 10: red ball. Bowler Michael ray on, debut charging in and 1900 01:40:04,933 --> 01:40:07,453 Speaker 10: picking up six, Wickets Zach folks check me. In Even 1901 01:40:07,493 --> 01:40:09,373 Speaker 10: Blair tickner in the first, innings who was our best, 1902 01:40:09,453 --> 01:40:11,453 Speaker 10: bowler you, know having only played. 1903 01:40:11,613 --> 01:40:14,573 Speaker 4: Seven test matches. PREVIOUSLY i think we're starting to build some. 1904 01:40:14,733 --> 01:40:15,333 Speaker 4: Depth you. 1905 01:40:15,413 --> 01:40:17,933 Speaker 10: Know we we get a bit misty eyed about the 1906 01:40:18,013 --> 01:40:20,333 Speaker 10: sow the Bolt wagoner, days don't, we and how how 1907 01:40:20,413 --> 01:40:23,093 Speaker 10: great they, were and they, were but it was always going, 1908 01:40:23,173 --> 01:40:25,573 Speaker 10: to you, know, Move we're always going to move on from, 1909 01:40:25,613 --> 01:40:29,293 Speaker 10: that and NOW i think we're building a reasonably decent 1910 01:40:29,453 --> 01:40:31,813 Speaker 10: list Of i've seen bowling options across all of our. 1911 01:40:31,853 --> 01:40:35,493 Speaker 4: Formats, YEAH i totally. AGREE i mean every cloud right it, 1912 01:40:35,653 --> 01:40:37,773 Speaker 4: was you, know and when we saw that injury the other, 1913 01:40:37,853 --> 01:40:39,253 Speaker 4: DAY i, thought, Oh this is going to be a 1914 01:40:39,453 --> 01:40:43,093 Speaker 4: very very tricky second, innings BUT i think things obviously 1915 01:40:43,533 --> 01:40:46,493 Speaker 4: turned out okay for them and then which is very. 1916 01:40:46,573 --> 01:40:47,853 Speaker 4: Pleasing so you're going to be looking at that this. 1917 01:40:47,933 --> 01:40:51,173 Speaker 10: Afternoon, yeah looking forward to chatting actually To Gavin, larson 1918 01:40:51,173 --> 01:40:53,453 Speaker 10: who's back for a second instance as, selector and so 1919 01:40:53,573 --> 01:40:55,653 Speaker 10: he's the one who has to go into plunket. SHIELD i, 1920 01:40:55,693 --> 01:40:57,973 Speaker 10: mean how did they land On Michael ray for? Example you, 1921 01:40:58,053 --> 01:41:00,133 Speaker 10: know a guy who's been in and around the domestic 1922 01:41:00,173 --> 01:41:02,733 Speaker 10: scene for over a. Decade how did they land on 1923 01:41:02,853 --> 01:41:04,533 Speaker 10: him as the guy to bring up rather than maybe 1924 01:41:04,573 --> 01:41:07,413 Speaker 10: another young player or. Whatever so and you, know and 1925 01:41:07,773 --> 01:41:10,013 Speaker 10: the other interesting one around the Black caps at the, Moment, 1926 01:41:10,493 --> 01:41:13,213 Speaker 10: jack is what we do around the wicket keeper batsman. 1927 01:41:13,253 --> 01:41:16,213 Speaker 10: Position Tom blundell pulling a hammy in Christ, Church Mitch 1928 01:41:16,253 --> 01:41:20,013 Speaker 10: hay comes, in keeps, well scores sixty on. Debut what 1929 01:41:20,213 --> 01:41:22,853 Speaker 10: do they do When Tom blundle's, fit which by the 1930 01:41:22,893 --> 01:41:24,173 Speaker 10: sounds of, it he will be for the Third? 1931 01:41:24,213 --> 01:41:25,093 Speaker 4: Test how do they make that? 1932 01:41:25,173 --> 01:41:27,333 Speaker 10: Decision do they go back to what they had before 1933 01:41:27,653 --> 01:41:29,973 Speaker 10: because it was an injury rather than being, dropped or 1934 01:41:30,093 --> 01:41:32,493 Speaker 10: do they Reward Mitch hay for a pretty decent day 1935 01:41:32,573 --> 01:41:35,653 Speaker 10: boo and give him another go In Mount. Monganuit SO 1936 01:41:35,693 --> 01:41:37,333 Speaker 10: i guess we'll find that. Out so those are other 1937 01:41:37,413 --> 01:41:39,973 Speaker 10: questions For Gavin larsen after, midday and then Sever reese 1938 01:41:40,173 --> 01:41:42,453 Speaker 10: is with you this. Afternoon, yeah looking forward to chatty 1939 01:41:42,493 --> 01:41:44,413 Speaker 10: to Sever. Reese he's made a decision to head off 1940 01:41:44,493 --> 01:41:46,293 Speaker 10: share AND i think a lot of people expected. This 1941 01:41:46,413 --> 01:41:47,853 Speaker 10: he was kind of on the fringes of The All 1942 01:41:47,853 --> 01:41:50,333 Speaker 10: black side this year but has decided to go and 1943 01:41:50,373 --> 01:41:52,453 Speaker 10: play In france for the next Three he'll play one 1944 01:41:52,493 --> 01:41:54,653 Speaker 10: More SUPER rugb season with The, crusaders and at the 1945 01:41:54,733 --> 01:41:56,333 Speaker 10: end of those three years as, Well jack he'll be 1946 01:41:56,413 --> 01:41:59,213 Speaker 10: eligible to play FOR, figi which of course is where 1947 01:41:59,253 --> 01:42:01,173 Speaker 10: he was born and grew. Up SO i think it 1948 01:42:01,253 --> 01:42:02,813 Speaker 10: might be the end of end of the line for 1949 01:42:03,013 --> 01:42:04,853 Speaker 10: Sever reese as An All, black but it might not 1950 01:42:04,933 --> 01:42:06,613 Speaker 10: be the end of the line of him as an 1951 01:42:06,613 --> 01:42:09,493 Speaker 10: international rugby plass here looking forward to chatting to Several 1952 01:42:09,533 --> 01:42:10,533 Speaker 10: reefs about his career after. 1953 01:42:10,573 --> 01:42:13,333 Speaker 4: One it's, amazing isn't it how this is often the 1954 01:42:13,373 --> 01:42:16,213 Speaker 4: case for. WINGERS i, mean he is as a rugby, 1955 01:42:16,253 --> 01:42:19,693 Speaker 4: player you, know at his explosive. Best my, gosh he 1956 01:42:19,853 --> 01:42:22,693 Speaker 4: was an incredibly impressed rugby, boss and he, was you, 1957 01:42:22,773 --> 01:42:25,293 Speaker 4: know the kind of toast of the town until maybe 1958 01:42:25,333 --> 01:42:28,453 Speaker 4: a season. Ago when things that start to, slip especially for, 1959 01:42:28,533 --> 01:42:31,373 Speaker 4: wingers it feels like they're sort of you, know they're 1960 01:42:31,453 --> 01:42:33,973 Speaker 4: right there and thereabouts one minute and but as soon 1961 01:42:34,053 --> 01:42:37,973 Speaker 4: as you, know someone slightly faster or fresh company comes 1962 01:42:38,013 --> 01:42:40,093 Speaker 4: in and that's. It they see their opportunities. 1963 01:42:40,133 --> 01:42:42,213 Speaker 10: Slip always the hot, hand it's the hot. Hand Severy 1964 01:42:42,293 --> 01:42:45,093 Speaker 10: reese was exactly that in twenty. Nineteen he came in 1965 01:42:45,133 --> 01:42:47,853 Speaker 10: as the hot hand With George. Bridge, look it's impossible 1966 01:42:47,893 --> 01:42:50,573 Speaker 10: to predict our starting wingers for the twenty twenty Seven 1967 01:42:50,653 --> 01:42:53,773 Speaker 10: Rugby World. Cup we're two years. Away it'll probably excuse. 1968 01:42:53,813 --> 01:42:55,493 Speaker 10: Me one of them will probably not have played for 1969 01:42:55,533 --> 01:42:57,813 Speaker 10: The All blacks BEFORE i could, say, so, yeah we'll, 1970 01:42:57,853 --> 01:42:59,493 Speaker 10: see but, Yeah i'm looking forward to chating with it 1971 01:43:00,173 --> 01:43:00,693 Speaker 10: after one. 1972 01:43:00,653 --> 01:43:02,733 Speaker 4: Nice, well looking forward to, it thanks. Sir Book this, 1973 01:43:02,813 --> 01:43:06,373 Speaker 4: Afternoon Jason pye in For Weekend sport right after the Midy. 1974 01:43:06,533 --> 01:43:08,093 Speaker 4: News next, up we've got your book picks for the, 1975 01:43:08,133 --> 01:43:12,533 Speaker 4: week Including quantum Of MENACE q is out of six 1976 01:43:12,893 --> 01:43:15,133 Speaker 4: and then over his Head DA da will give you 1977 01:43:15,213 --> 01:43:16,333 Speaker 4: the details on that in a couple of. 1978 01:43:16,373 --> 01:43:22,053 Speaker 1: Minutes Saturday morning With Jack Team Full show podcast On 1979 01:43:22,333 --> 01:43:24,933 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio powered By News TALKS edb. 1980 01:43:25,933 --> 01:43:28,653 Speaker 4: Twenty one to twelve On News TALKS, edb it's time 1981 01:43:28,693 --> 01:43:31,853 Speaker 4: to get your book picks for the. Weekend Katherine rains 1982 01:43:31,933 --> 01:43:34,253 Speaker 4: is our book, reviewer so we're going to track it 1983 01:43:34,293 --> 01:43:36,813 Speaker 4: down in a couple of. Minutes he's got a good 1984 01:43:36,893 --> 01:43:39,613 Speaker 4: couple of options for anyone who's looking for a bit 1985 01:43:39,653 --> 01:43:41,613 Speaker 4: of fiction over the. SUMMER i don't know about, you 1986 01:43:41,733 --> 01:43:45,013 Speaker 4: but as someone who is forever reading, nonfiction it's the 1987 01:43:45,093 --> 01:43:47,453 Speaker 4: one time of year When i'm able to disconnect and 1988 01:43:47,573 --> 01:43:49,693 Speaker 4: actually enjoy a bit of fiction as. Well and So 1989 01:43:49,853 --> 01:43:53,813 Speaker 4: katherine's first book Is quantum Of menace By Vassin. Kahan 1990 01:43:53,853 --> 01:43:55,053 Speaker 4: goe To catherine tell us about it. 1991 01:43:55,853 --> 01:43:58,653 Speaker 18: Morning so this is a different look at the world 1992 01:43:58,733 --> 01:44:02,773 Speaker 18: Of James, bond and it explores that world From q's. 1993 01:44:02,853 --> 01:44:05,493 Speaker 18: Perspective and so you meet him in his time and 1994 01:44:05,893 --> 01:44:08,893 Speaker 18: six is up and he's been thrown out of his 1995 01:44:09,053 --> 01:44:10,213 Speaker 18: role in favor of a NEW. 1996 01:44:10,333 --> 01:44:11,853 Speaker 4: Q when this new m. 1997 01:44:12,133 --> 01:44:14,213 Speaker 18: Takes, charge and he's really at a loss what to, 1998 01:44:14,333 --> 01:44:16,893 Speaker 18: do and he receives the very sad news that his 1999 01:44:17,053 --> 01:44:20,533 Speaker 18: childhood Friend Pete, napier who's this cutting edge computer science 2000 01:44:20,613 --> 01:44:23,773 Speaker 18: and you, know well deep in that world has has, 2001 01:44:24,293 --> 01:44:27,573 Speaker 18: died and just before his, Death peter had written to 2002 01:44:27,693 --> 01:44:30,853 Speaker 18: him suggesting that his life might be in. Danger and 2003 01:44:30,933 --> 01:44:32,973 Speaker 18: then the coroner's report comes out and the police are 2004 01:44:33,013 --> 01:44:35,973 Speaker 18: in investigation and agreement that it was death by, misadventure 2005 01:44:36,253 --> 01:44:40,573 Speaker 18: That q's not. Convinced and then another letter arrives and 2006 01:44:40,773 --> 01:44:44,013 Speaker 18: he begins his own, investigation and after having spent his 2007 01:44:44,253 --> 01:44:47,093 Speaker 18: entire career in The James bond world hidden in a, 2008 01:44:47,173 --> 01:44:49,253 Speaker 18: lab he takes to the field to try and work 2009 01:44:49,293 --> 01:44:51,173 Speaker 18: out what happened to his, friend and he ends up 2010 01:44:51,173 --> 01:44:54,053 Speaker 18: back in his childhood village Of wickstone On, water has 2011 01:44:54,093 --> 01:44:55,613 Speaker 18: to confront a lot of ghost of the, past and 2012 01:44:55,653 --> 01:44:57,333 Speaker 18: you find a lot out about him as. Well and 2013 01:44:57,413 --> 01:44:59,893 Speaker 18: the more he, investigates the more evident it becomes that 2014 01:45:00,013 --> 01:45:02,373 Speaker 18: someone is onto him and wants to stop. Him and 2015 01:45:02,453 --> 01:45:04,773 Speaker 18: so you get lots of One Crime fair and modern 2016 01:45:05,013 --> 01:45:07,293 Speaker 18: war and crime and life thanks to the stories with 2017 01:45:07,573 --> 01:45:11,653 Speaker 18: the crime families and quantum, computing and Although James bond 2018 01:45:11,693 --> 01:45:13,933 Speaker 18: isn't the hero of the, story there's lots of flashbacks 2019 01:45:13,973 --> 01:45:15,813 Speaker 18: to the interactions WITH q and lots of the other 2020 01:45:15,973 --> 01:45:18,413 Speaker 18: characters that people will be familiar, with and the story 2021 01:45:18,493 --> 01:45:20,733 Speaker 18: is really. Good it keeps you guessing and if you're 2022 01:45:20,773 --> 01:45:23,133 Speaker 18: A bond, fan this is a perfect mystery for. You 2023 01:45:23,253 --> 01:45:25,133 Speaker 18: AND i think That bond fans will really enjoy this. 2024 01:45:25,213 --> 01:45:28,893 Speaker 4: Book superb okay. Cool so That's quantum Of menace By 2025 01:45:29,053 --> 01:45:32,893 Speaker 4: us And. Kahn next, Up The hawk Is dead By Peter. 2026 01:45:33,093 --> 01:45:38,533 Speaker 18: James so this series features a detective and superintendent Are Roy, 2027 01:45:38,613 --> 01:45:41,133 Speaker 18: Grace and this one can be read as a real standalone, 2028 01:45:41,173 --> 01:45:44,093 Speaker 18: Novel and it starts when you're on, board when The 2029 01:45:44,213 --> 01:45:47,733 Speaker 18: queen's actually on board The royal train heading For, sussex 2030 01:45:47,893 --> 01:45:51,893 Speaker 18: and there's a drailment in the tunnel and everybody's forced 2031 01:45:51,933 --> 01:45:53,733 Speaker 18: to hop off the train and walk back through the, 2032 01:45:53,773 --> 01:45:56,173 Speaker 18: tunnel and there's a train about to, arrive so there's 2033 01:45:56,173 --> 01:45:58,453 Speaker 18: lots of pressure and people to really get to move 2034 01:45:58,493 --> 01:46:01,053 Speaker 18: on and get out of the. Way and then chaos 2035 01:46:01,213 --> 01:46:03,613 Speaker 18: ensues as one of her aides is shot dead by 2036 01:46:03,693 --> 01:46:07,173 Speaker 18: what appears to be a sniper and railment looks like 2037 01:46:07,333 --> 01:46:09,653 Speaker 18: it's the work of. Protesters as the story moves, on 2038 01:46:09,853 --> 01:46:12,533 Speaker 18: and it looks like The queen's just survived an assassination, 2039 01:46:12,693 --> 01:46:16,133 Speaker 18: attempt and the police have their, answer but Actually roy 2040 01:46:16,653 --> 01:46:19,573 Speaker 18: has a very different, opinion and he thinks The queen 2041 01:46:19,693 --> 01:46:22,653 Speaker 18: wasn't the intended target and actually they may have got 2042 01:46:22,733 --> 01:46:25,253 Speaker 18: who they intended to, be and so he ends up 2043 01:46:25,333 --> 01:46:27,653 Speaker 18: on the palace and you, know the wealth and the 2044 01:46:28,173 --> 01:46:29,813 Speaker 18: meeting The king and The queen and all of the 2045 01:46:29,933 --> 01:46:31,693 Speaker 18: kind of things that go on at the palace and the, 2046 01:46:31,813 --> 01:46:35,293 Speaker 18: issues and there's police politics and the politics of the royal. 2047 01:46:35,333 --> 01:46:38,173 Speaker 18: Household and it's a really unpredictable book and hard to 2048 01:46:38,253 --> 01:46:40,613 Speaker 18: guess where it's actually, going and it's quite twisting and, 2049 01:46:40,693 --> 01:46:43,973 Speaker 18: intense and there's lots of secrets and surprises and political 2050 01:46:44,013 --> 01:46:47,533 Speaker 18: intrigue and it's a good read with an interesting kind 2051 01:46:47,533 --> 01:46:50,253 Speaker 18: of real life characters thrown in there in the mix as. 2052 01:46:50,293 --> 01:46:53,133 Speaker 4: Well yeah, right, okay. Cool That's The Hawk Is dead 2053 01:46:53,373 --> 01:46:57,253 Speaker 4: By Peter. James catherine's first Book quantum Of menace By Vasim, 2054 01:46:57,373 --> 01:46:59,093 Speaker 4: Kahn and we'll make sure both of those are on the. 2055 01:46:59,133 --> 01:47:02,053 Speaker 4: Website Thanks, CATHERINE i have a Great, saturday and we 2056 01:47:02,093 --> 01:47:04,853 Speaker 4: will catch you again for our Final Saturday morning together 2057 01:47:04,893 --> 01:47:07,693 Speaker 4: of twenty twenty five next. Week can in a couple of, 2058 01:47:07,773 --> 01:47:10,933 Speaker 4: minutes our music reviewer with the worst things about being 2059 01:47:11,013 --> 01:47:14,013 Speaker 4: a music fan this year seventeen to twelve On News, 2060 01:47:14,093 --> 01:47:14,653 Speaker 4: talks he'd. 2061 01:47:14,533 --> 01:47:17,813 Speaker 3: Be giving you the inside scope on The all You 2062 01:47:17,933 --> 01:47:21,413 Speaker 3: need To know This saturday morning With Jack Dame Youth. 2063 01:47:21,493 --> 01:47:22,093 Speaker 5: Talks it'd be. 2064 01:47:24,213 --> 01:47:24,573 Speaker 8: Scored a. 2065 01:47:24,653 --> 01:47:53,533 Speaker 4: Twelve, well that Is shanghai By King gizzard and The Lizard. 2066 01:47:53,573 --> 01:47:56,013 Speaker 4: Wizard that's the real version of the. Song and there 2067 01:47:56,093 --> 01:47:58,733 Speaker 4: is a good reason we are playing that slightly peculiar 2068 01:47:58,853 --> 01:48:01,213 Speaker 4: sounding music for you this. Morning Chris, shultz our music, 2069 01:48:01,293 --> 01:48:04,893 Speaker 4: reviewer is here with the. Details And King gizzard and 2070 01:48:05,053 --> 01:48:09,773 Speaker 4: The Lizard wizard were subject to some craziness INVOLVING ai 2071 01:48:10,613 --> 01:48:14,453 Speaker 4: and streaming services this. Year, chris they really. 2072 01:48:14,573 --> 01:48:14,733 Speaker 16: Were. 2073 01:48:15,493 --> 01:48:18,413 Speaker 19: Yeah so this is An australian kind of psych rock. 2074 01:48:18,573 --> 01:48:21,533 Speaker 19: Band they've they've made a lot of albums and a 2075 01:48:21,573 --> 01:48:23,373 Speaker 19: lot of different. Genres, yeah and. 2076 01:48:24,573 --> 01:48:27,773 Speaker 4: Before they are very they're very unusual but quite cool Late, 2077 01:48:28,533 --> 01:48:29,453 Speaker 4: yeah and a really. 2078 01:48:29,253 --> 01:48:32,013 Speaker 19: Cool live experience. Too they've they've Toured New zealand and 2079 01:48:32,453 --> 01:48:34,813 Speaker 19: they toured the world that. That, yeah they've made a 2080 01:48:34,893 --> 01:48:36,733 Speaker 19: lot of. Music though they're known for releasing four or 2081 01:48:36,773 --> 01:48:40,053 Speaker 19: five albums a, year all of that until recently was 2082 01:48:40,213 --> 01:48:42,933 Speaker 19: all On. Spotify and then they joined this kind of 2083 01:48:43,813 --> 01:48:46,533 Speaker 19: mass exodus if you. Like you, know these artists who 2084 01:48:46,613 --> 01:48:49,853 Speaker 19: have pulled off their music because they're unhappy with the 2085 01:48:49,893 --> 01:48:52,693 Speaker 19: way the streaming service is being. Run massive attack have 2086 01:48:52,813 --> 01:48:55,653 Speaker 19: done it, locally The bats And tikitane have done that. 2087 01:48:55,893 --> 01:49:01,773 Speaker 19: Too and then what happened was is that some some 2088 01:49:02,133 --> 01:49:04,093 Speaker 19: someone with a big idea went out there and ASKED 2089 01:49:04,133 --> 01:49:07,893 Speaker 19: ai to recreate their, music uploaded that and that made 2090 01:49:07,933 --> 01:49:11,573 Speaker 19: it to some of the, playlists the, bigger more popular 2091 01:49:11,613 --> 01:49:16,133 Speaker 19: playlist On. Spotify and so that's one of the weird 2092 01:49:16,293 --> 01:49:19,253 Speaker 19: things that have happened or that we've had to navigate 2093 01:49:19,373 --> 01:49:21,773 Speaker 19: as music fans this. YEAR i think this is the 2094 01:49:21,893 --> 01:49:24,253 Speaker 19: first year that we've had to sort of, say you, 2095 01:49:24,293 --> 01:49:26,893 Speaker 19: know we've had to ask a, question is this music 2096 01:49:27,013 --> 01:49:29,213 Speaker 19: made by humans or is it made by? 2097 01:49:29,853 --> 01:49:30,333 Speaker 2: Robots? 2098 01:49:30,413 --> 01:49:33,293 Speaker 19: Yeah, sometimes you, know that line's beginning to. Blur we've 2099 01:49:33,333 --> 01:49:38,173 Speaker 19: seen The grammys struggling with. It they are trying to 2100 01:49:38,253 --> 01:49:41,453 Speaker 19: work out the. Rules do we allow artists who admit 2101 01:49:41,533 --> 01:49:45,933 Speaker 19: they're USING ai to enter their songs and give them. Awards, 2102 01:49:47,213 --> 01:49:49,653 Speaker 19: yeah it's a murky it's a murky. 2103 01:49:49,733 --> 01:49:53,213 Speaker 4: World, yeah it really. Is it really. Is, SO i 2104 01:49:53,293 --> 01:49:56,653 Speaker 4: mean that's a prime example of one of the worst 2105 01:49:56,693 --> 01:49:58,773 Speaker 4: things about being a music fan in twenty twenty, five 2106 01:49:58,893 --> 01:50:02,253 Speaker 4: especially if you're A King gizzard. Fan so you went On, 2107 01:50:02,333 --> 01:50:04,773 Speaker 4: spotify you were handed something, else but they came up 2108 01:50:04,813 --> 01:50:06,933 Speaker 4: with a different, name, right Like King lizard and The 2109 01:50:06,973 --> 01:50:11,093 Speaker 4: Wizard gizzard or. Something this is, slightly slightly it's a slight, variation, right, 2110 01:50:11,333 --> 01:50:12,173 Speaker 4: yeah slight. 2111 01:50:12,333 --> 01:50:13,373 Speaker 8: Variation yeah. 2112 01:50:13,493 --> 01:50:16,613 Speaker 19: Yeah so, look this is leading to this trend right 2113 01:50:16,693 --> 01:50:19,333 Speaker 19: where Where spotify is just just getting a bit. Weird 2114 01:50:20,493 --> 01:50:24,013 Speaker 19: it does feel like this year things are beginning to 2115 01:50:24,133 --> 01:50:24,453 Speaker 19: turn a. 2116 01:50:24,493 --> 01:50:24,853 Speaker 4: Bit you. 2117 01:50:24,893 --> 01:50:26,773 Speaker 19: Know i've spoken to a lot of my friends and 2118 01:50:26,853 --> 01:50:30,413 Speaker 19: family who have left the platform because they're not okay with. 2119 01:50:30,533 --> 01:50:33,413 Speaker 19: That but they're also not okay with things like iesads 2120 01:50:33,493 --> 01:50:36,893 Speaker 19: but hitting their streaming. Feeds they're not okay with the 2121 01:50:36,973 --> 01:50:40,333 Speaker 19: kind of constant price. Raises and of, course the co, Founder, 2122 01:50:40,373 --> 01:50:45,013 Speaker 19: danuek was found to have invested some of his proceeds 2123 01:50:45,053 --> 01:50:48,133 Speaker 19: Of spotify Into, wartech which it seems to have been 2124 01:50:48,133 --> 01:50:49,573 Speaker 19: the big. One that seems to be why a lot 2125 01:50:49,613 --> 01:50:52,053 Speaker 19: of the artists are pulling In. Spotify SO i do 2126 01:50:52,133 --> 01:50:54,453 Speaker 19: wonder if we're heading next year into a bit of 2127 01:50:54,533 --> 01:50:57,733 Speaker 19: a world where where things sort of turn Where spotify 2128 01:50:58,733 --> 01:51:00,693 Speaker 19: just just gets to the point where people don't kind 2129 01:51:00,733 --> 01:51:02,653 Speaker 19: of want to use. It if your favorite music's not on, 2130 01:51:02,773 --> 01:51:05,933 Speaker 19: there then why would you subscribe to. It if you're 2131 01:51:05,933 --> 01:51:07,773 Speaker 19: a mess with tag fan and you can't listen to, 2132 01:51:07,893 --> 01:51:09,133 Speaker 19: it why would you pay for? 2133 01:51:09,213 --> 01:51:09,253 Speaker 8: That? 2134 01:51:09,413 --> 01:51:13,693 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Right let's walk through the other little points 2135 01:51:13,733 --> 01:51:16,053 Speaker 4: you've raised on the worst things about being a music 2136 01:51:16,133 --> 01:51:19,293 Speaker 4: fan in twenty twenty, five and rising concert ticket prices 2137 01:51:19,373 --> 01:51:19,813 Speaker 4: is right up. 2138 01:51:19,813 --> 01:51:23,093 Speaker 19: There, well when you couple that too with the fact 2139 01:51:23,133 --> 01:51:25,093 Speaker 19: that a lot of our the, biggest the world's biggest 2140 01:51:25,133 --> 01:51:28,293 Speaker 19: acts aren't coming To New zealand, anymore that touring exclusively To, 2141 01:51:28,413 --> 01:51:30,973 Speaker 19: australia then, yes those those concert ticket prices are up. 2142 01:51:31,013 --> 01:51:33,173 Speaker 19: There i've paid up to three hundred and fifty dollars 2143 01:51:33,253 --> 01:51:37,093 Speaker 19: for a concert ticket this Year. Pips when you add 2144 01:51:37,133 --> 01:51:40,533 Speaker 19: in flights and accommodation and everything else that's traveling To australia, 2145 01:51:41,573 --> 01:51:45,213 Speaker 19: entails then those costs really do get up. THERE i 2146 01:51:45,573 --> 01:51:48,173 Speaker 19: just got back On wednesday from going to See Kendrick 2147 01:51:48,213 --> 01:51:50,413 Speaker 19: lamar And Lady gaga and the plane was full Of 2148 01:51:50,893 --> 01:51:52,973 Speaker 19: New zealanders had been. Over we were all talking about. 2149 01:51:52,973 --> 01:51:54,933 Speaker 19: It someone had been To Lady. Gaga someone had been 2150 01:51:54,973 --> 01:51:57,773 Speaker 19: to The Spilt Milk festival and was wearing the. Hoodie 2151 01:51:57,853 --> 01:51:59,493 Speaker 19: they sat next to me and we were talking about. 2152 01:51:59,493 --> 01:52:03,693 Speaker 19: That we're having to eat that at the. Moment and 2153 01:52:03,773 --> 01:52:06,253 Speaker 19: there are changes on the way the governments and v 2154 01:52:06,533 --> 01:52:10,093 Speaker 19: and introduced this major events boost to try and tast 2155 01:52:10,133 --> 01:52:11,573 Speaker 19: those artist. Back that's going to take a bit of. 2156 01:52:11,653 --> 01:52:15,213 Speaker 19: Time so that is something we've just had to wear. 2157 01:52:15,453 --> 01:52:19,533 Speaker 4: Unfortunately, okay, YEAH i mean we've talked about this. Before 2158 01:52:19,813 --> 01:52:21,933 Speaker 4: hopefully we're about to see a bit of progress on that, 2159 01:52:22,053 --> 01:52:24,533 Speaker 4: front but it's certainly been a big punish for a 2160 01:52:24,573 --> 01:52:26,733 Speaker 4: lot Of New zealand music fans have had to spend 2161 01:52:26,893 --> 01:52:28,973 Speaker 4: so much money if they want to go and see 2162 01:52:29,013 --> 01:52:31,173 Speaker 4: some of their favorite acts on these big world. Tours 2163 01:52:31,653 --> 01:52:34,893 Speaker 4: what is the worst view obstruction in your, View, chris 2164 01:52:35,013 --> 01:52:37,293 Speaker 4: given you've been given a hard time for being. Tall 2165 01:52:37,813 --> 01:52:41,653 Speaker 4: is it tall people or is it a sea of smart? Phones? Oh, 2166 01:52:41,933 --> 01:52:42,373 Speaker 4: no it's the. 2167 01:52:42,493 --> 01:52:45,613 Speaker 19: Phones it's definitely the phones for, me because those you, 2168 01:52:45,693 --> 01:52:47,253 Speaker 19: know when you add your arms up there, there you're 2169 01:52:47,253 --> 01:52:49,773 Speaker 19: getting up above seven, foot so you, Know i'm six foot. 2170 01:52:49,813 --> 01:52:52,173 Speaker 19: Four if someone's holding up a phone and that's sort 2171 01:52:52,173 --> 01:52:54,773 Speaker 19: of just under six. Foot that's right on my, siteline 2172 01:52:54,853 --> 01:53:00,133 Speaker 19: JACK i Perc the phones drive me. Crazy so that's 2173 01:53:00,613 --> 01:53:02,813 Speaker 19: WHY i really loved a recent show actually At Spark, 2174 01:53:02,853 --> 01:53:05,013 Speaker 19: Arena tool played and they banned all the. Phones they 2175 01:53:05,133 --> 01:53:08,373 Speaker 19: threatened to throw people, out and no one used. Them 2176 01:53:08,453 --> 01:53:10,693 Speaker 19: everyone stuck to these rules and it created this really 2177 01:53:10,773 --> 01:53:14,693 Speaker 19: magic atmosphere WHICH i hadn't experienced probably since back in 2178 01:53:14,853 --> 01:53:17,813 Speaker 19: like twenty ten before everyone had a smartphone in their 2179 01:53:17,853 --> 01:53:18,853 Speaker 19: pocket and were filming all the. 2180 01:53:18,933 --> 01:53:19,573 Speaker 8: Shows is that? 2181 01:53:19,733 --> 01:53:22,413 Speaker 4: Right, yeah they just said don't do, it and people 2182 01:53:22,453 --> 01:53:22,773 Speaker 4: didn't do. 2183 01:53:22,853 --> 01:53:26,613 Speaker 19: It they were pretty threatening about. It they did bring 2184 01:53:26,693 --> 01:53:29,013 Speaker 19: a voice over over the loudspeaker, beforehand and they did 2185 01:53:29,133 --> 01:53:32,693 Speaker 19: say explicitly you will be instantly. Expelled they didn't do 2186 01:53:32,773 --> 01:53:34,493 Speaker 19: that the first, night and they didn't do it at 2187 01:53:34,493 --> 01:53:37,213 Speaker 19: the festival THAT i saw them play In australia. Either 2188 01:53:37,253 --> 01:53:40,893 Speaker 19: it was specifically that show, interesting and they did have 2189 01:53:41,013 --> 01:53:42,493 Speaker 19: this rule where you could bring them out for the 2190 01:53:42,573 --> 01:53:45,813 Speaker 19: last song and film and take. Photos Then i'd love 2191 01:53:45,893 --> 01:53:48,493 Speaker 19: to see more artists do that in twenty SIX i 2192 01:53:48,573 --> 01:53:51,773 Speaker 19: think that's. Great Like, plan you're just straddling that. Line 2193 01:53:51,973 --> 01:53:53,133 Speaker 19: you're giving people the best of both. 2194 01:53:53,173 --> 01:53:55,533 Speaker 4: Works So i've been to two. THINGS i. THINK i 2195 01:53:55,613 --> 01:53:58,853 Speaker 4: went to A Childish gambino show, once AND i went 2196 01:53:58,973 --> 01:54:02,333 Speaker 4: to A Dave chappelle show at The comedian in which 2197 01:54:02,533 --> 01:54:04,133 Speaker 4: they when you came, in you had to put your 2198 01:54:04,173 --> 01:54:05,973 Speaker 4: phone in a little bag and they took it away, 2199 01:54:06,013 --> 01:54:07,773 Speaker 4: basically you, know and, no you were sealed. Up you 2200 01:54:07,893 --> 01:54:09,573 Speaker 4: held onto, it but you couldn't get it out until the, 2201 01:54:09,693 --> 01:54:12,173 Speaker 4: end you. Know AND i loved. IT i was all about, It, 2202 01:54:12,453 --> 01:54:14,973 Speaker 4: like surely the reason you go to live to experience 2203 01:54:15,013 --> 01:54:18,733 Speaker 4: live music is to be present in the. Moment and 2204 01:54:18,853 --> 01:54:21,253 Speaker 4: yet and, yet the moment the artist comes, out everyone 2205 01:54:21,333 --> 01:54:23,533 Speaker 4: pulls out the. Phone it's, like, guys that's the whole 2206 01:54:23,573 --> 01:54:26,493 Speaker 4: reason we're, here like to get away from Those, okay 2207 01:54:26,573 --> 01:54:28,373 Speaker 4: hey give us Your we're not going to play it 2208 01:54:28,613 --> 01:54:30,653 Speaker 4: BECAUSE i think it's got too many swear words according 2209 01:54:30,693 --> 01:54:33,293 Speaker 4: To Libby libby the. Prob but what's your what's your 2210 01:54:33,813 --> 01:54:36,453 Speaker 4: worst song of twenty twenty? Five just to round out 2211 01:54:36,493 --> 01:54:37,013 Speaker 4: your worst of? 2212 01:54:37,173 --> 01:54:40,213 Speaker 19: List go and if you have to go and listen to, 2213 01:54:40,253 --> 01:54:42,693 Speaker 19: it go and listen to The willsmith song. Girls it 2214 01:54:42,853 --> 01:54:46,093 Speaker 19: is just the shambles Of, OH i don't even know 2215 01:54:46,213 --> 01:54:46,733 Speaker 19: what it. 2216 01:54:46,853 --> 01:54:51,333 Speaker 4: Is, Terrible it is. Terrible, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah 2217 01:54:51,493 --> 01:54:54,013 Speaker 4: go and hate listen to that. One we're not going 2218 01:54:54,093 --> 01:54:56,653 Speaker 4: to play. That we'll pick something that's maybe slightly less 2219 01:54:56,653 --> 01:54:59,293 Speaker 4: controversial this. Morning but thank you so Much. Chris Chris. 2220 01:54:59,333 --> 01:55:02,253 Speaker 4: Schultz you can find him on his. Substack of, course 2221 01:55:02,293 --> 01:55:05,133 Speaker 4: it's called Boiler room seven to twelve on. Newsbooks he'd be. 2222 01:55:07,413 --> 01:55:11,173 Speaker 3: Cracking way to start Your Saturday saturday morning With Jack 2223 01:55:11,253 --> 01:55:14,293 Speaker 3: team news talks have been two. 2224 01:55:14,653 --> 01:55:17,973 Speaker 4: Big interviews on weekend support this, Afternoon jason pine is 2225 01:55:18,093 --> 01:55:20,413 Speaker 4: behind the mic in the hot seat for. Weekends what 2226 01:55:20,533 --> 01:55:23,813 Speaker 4: he's going to catch up With Gavin, larsen the Black caps, 2227 01:55:23,973 --> 01:55:27,213 Speaker 4: selector talk about well some of the injury challenges the 2228 01:55:27,253 --> 01:55:30,613 Speaker 4: Black caps have faced over their first two tests against 2229 01:55:30,693 --> 01:55:34,453 Speaker 4: The West, indies but also maybe a bit more depth 2230 01:55:34,733 --> 01:55:37,373 Speaker 4: in the side that many of Us black, fans Black 2231 01:55:37,413 --> 01:55:41,133 Speaker 4: caps fans hadn't quite. Appreciated so he's going to be 2232 01:55:41,173 --> 01:55:43,653 Speaker 4: in very. Shortly as well as that Sebu reese is 2233 01:55:43,773 --> 01:55:46,293 Speaker 4: headed For, france The allbacks winger will be With piney 2234 01:55:46,573 --> 01:55:49,093 Speaker 4: to talk through his decision as. Well that is us 2235 01:55:49,173 --> 01:55:52,253 Speaker 4: though for our an ultimate show of twenty twenty. Five 2236 01:55:52,333 --> 01:55:54,213 Speaker 4: thank you very much for joining us this morning and 2237 01:55:54,333 --> 01:55:59,293 Speaker 4: for all of your text and emails and communications news. 2238 01:55:59,293 --> 01:56:02,693 Speaker 4: Talks he'db dot co dot Mz ford Slash jack is 2239 01:56:02,773 --> 01:56:05,173 Speaker 4: the best place to go for everything from our. Show 2240 01:56:05,373 --> 01:56:08,933 Speaker 4: you can find us On facebook if you still love 2241 01:56:09,013 --> 01:56:11,453 Speaker 4: the social media as. Well thanks to my wonderful Producer 2242 01:56:11,613 --> 01:56:17,093 Speaker 4: libby for organizing, everything getting everyone up on the telephone 2243 01:56:17,093 --> 01:56:19,413 Speaker 4: when we needed them this. Morning we're back with you 2244 01:56:19,533 --> 01:56:22,813 Speaker 4: Next saturday morning for our final show of the. Year until, 2245 01:56:22,933 --> 01:56:25,453 Speaker 4: then we are going to leave you With she of 2246 01:56:28,733 --> 01:56:33,773 Speaker 4: enormous global tours and, stardom but no longer the most 2247 01:56:34,173 --> 01:56:38,013 Speaker 4: streamed artist of twenty twenty. Five Bad bunny is Actually 2248 01:56:38,093 --> 01:56:40,813 Speaker 4: Pipped Taylor. Swift she, has, however just released her new 2249 01:56:40,853 --> 01:56:42,333 Speaker 4: doco AND i suppose there are a couple of weeks 2250 01:56:42,373 --> 01:56:44,733 Speaker 4: left from twenty twenty, five so if the new doco 2251 01:56:44,853 --> 01:56:49,573 Speaker 4: drums up a little bit of Extra swifty, support maybe 2252 01:56:49,653 --> 01:56:52,173 Speaker 4: she will Pip Bad. Bunny we're back with the Next Saturday. 2253 01:56:52,213 --> 01:56:53,493 Speaker 4: Morning till, then have a good, one. 2254 01:57:02,253 --> 01:57:15,013 Speaker 1: Guys for more From Saturday morning With Jack, tame listen 2255 01:57:15,133 --> 01:57:17,893 Speaker 1: live To News talks AT b from nine Am, saturday 2256 01:57:18,173 --> 01:57:20,173 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast On. iHeartRadio