1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast 2 00:00:10,613 --> 00:00:11,693 Speaker 1: from News Talks AB. 3 00:00:13,973 --> 00:00:15,933 Speaker 2: It's this time on Saturdays that we catch up with 4 00:00:15,973 --> 00:00:19,453 Speaker 2: doctor Brian Betty to talk health. In this morning, we 5 00:00:19,493 --> 00:00:22,413 Speaker 2: are looking at abdominal hernias. Go to Brian. Good to 6 00:00:22,453 --> 00:00:23,373 Speaker 2: have you with us. 7 00:00:23,653 --> 00:00:25,173 Speaker 3: Oh cure, Jack gave to be here. 8 00:00:25,253 --> 00:00:28,093 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's start off with the basics. So what exactly 9 00:00:28,253 --> 00:00:29,893 Speaker 2: is an abdominal hernia. 10 00:00:31,133 --> 00:00:35,933 Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, it's where the abdominal cavity, which is where 11 00:00:35,973 --> 00:00:39,533 Speaker 3: the stomach or the tummy sits. It's an internal part 12 00:00:39,533 --> 00:00:41,973 Speaker 3: of the body which pushes through a weak part of 13 00:00:42,013 --> 00:00:45,053 Speaker 3: your abdominal muscle wall. So usually in a bit of 14 00:00:45,093 --> 00:00:48,413 Speaker 3: the intestine just pokes through where the muscle wall at 15 00:00:48,453 --> 00:00:51,013 Speaker 3: the front of your stomach becomes a bit weak. Now, 16 00:00:51,053 --> 00:00:54,213 Speaker 3: this creates a lump that you can often feel. Now, 17 00:00:54,213 --> 00:00:57,293 Speaker 3: they're really really common, very common in men. We think 18 00:00:57,373 --> 00:00:59,293 Speaker 3: up to twenty to twenty five percent a minute at 19 00:00:59,293 --> 00:01:01,573 Speaker 3: some point in their lives may have one. And they 20 00:01:01,613 --> 00:01:03,853 Speaker 3: can occur at any age, from sort of baby to 21 00:01:03,933 --> 00:01:09,533 Speaker 3: our adults and elderly. Now, there's several different kinds. There's 22 00:01:09,653 --> 00:01:11,653 Speaker 3: ones that are at the lower part of the abdomen. 23 00:01:11,733 --> 00:01:14,173 Speaker 3: They poke into the groin. So then testine pokes into 24 00:01:14,173 --> 00:01:16,613 Speaker 3: the groin and we call that an angwine or hernia, 25 00:01:16,733 --> 00:01:20,213 Speaker 3: and sometimes that actually pokes into the scrotum and it 26 00:01:20,253 --> 00:01:23,253 Speaker 3: can cause a lump. They can poke into the top 27 00:01:23,293 --> 00:01:26,173 Speaker 3: of the leg. We call that ephemeral or the front 28 00:01:26,213 --> 00:01:29,413 Speaker 3: of the abdomen or the stomach, and around the umbilical 29 00:01:29,693 --> 00:01:33,773 Speaker 3: umbilical or the belly button in particular, and we call 30 00:01:33,813 --> 00:01:35,693 Speaker 3: that a ventral hernia. So you will find a little 31 00:01:35,733 --> 00:01:38,693 Speaker 3: lump that starts to poke out there. So they really 32 00:01:38,693 --> 00:01:41,773 Speaker 3: really common occur around the abdomen and they cause these 33 00:01:41,813 --> 00:01:43,333 Speaker 3: little lumps of people start to. 34 00:01:43,293 --> 00:01:47,453 Speaker 2: Notice, Yeah, they sound really uncomfortable. Unfortunately, not of experience. 35 00:01:47,493 --> 00:01:50,893 Speaker 2: Fun I know plenty of people who have over the years. 36 00:01:50,893 --> 00:01:51,893 Speaker 2: What causes them? 37 00:01:51,973 --> 00:01:56,133 Speaker 3: Right, yeah, look, so lots of different things. So, look, 38 00:01:56,133 --> 00:01:58,893 Speaker 3: if you're carrying a bit of extra weight and you're overweight, 39 00:01:58,973 --> 00:02:02,253 Speaker 3: that tends to put extra pressure on the muscles around 40 00:02:02,293 --> 00:02:04,373 Speaker 3: the abdomen and that can weaken them and cause a 41 00:02:04,413 --> 00:02:08,373 Speaker 3: hernia to call call occur. You know, if you cough 42 00:02:08,453 --> 00:02:10,333 Speaker 3: or sneeze a lot again, that puts pressure on the 43 00:02:10,373 --> 00:02:14,773 Speaker 3: abdomin and can cause a weakness to develop, constipation, interestingly 44 00:02:14,933 --> 00:02:17,293 Speaker 3: enough can cause it. So if you're straining to pass 45 00:02:17,373 --> 00:02:21,333 Speaker 3: bowel motions, that can cause the stomach wall weakness. And 46 00:02:21,413 --> 00:02:24,293 Speaker 3: actually pregnancy is the other one. So look, if you're 47 00:02:24,333 --> 00:02:26,813 Speaker 3: pregnanty carrying baby, that puts a lot of pressure on 48 00:02:26,813 --> 00:02:30,533 Speaker 3: the abdomen. Now, the other big, big one is actually work, 49 00:02:30,933 --> 00:02:34,093 Speaker 3: so lifting the wrong way. So you suddenly lift something, 50 00:02:34,213 --> 00:02:37,773 Speaker 3: you suddenly tear the muscle wall and the hernia develops. 51 00:02:38,253 --> 00:02:40,533 Speaker 3: And that's a really very common way of these occurring. 52 00:02:40,573 --> 00:02:43,973 Speaker 3: And in those cases it's actually covered by accd AT treatments. 53 00:02:44,093 --> 00:02:47,093 Speaker 3: So lifting heavy things in the wrong way can be 54 00:02:47,133 --> 00:02:49,573 Speaker 3: a real real problem with hernia's developing. 55 00:02:50,613 --> 00:02:52,813 Speaker 2: I don't expect you to know this. This is a 56 00:02:52,893 --> 00:02:55,413 Speaker 2: random question, but I was watching have some weightlifting the 57 00:02:55,453 --> 00:02:58,013 Speaker 2: other day. You know how the weightlifters put on those 58 00:02:58,053 --> 00:03:00,413 Speaker 2: belts when they're about to lift a really heavy weight. 59 00:03:00,493 --> 00:03:01,373 Speaker 2: Is it for hernias? 60 00:03:02,053 --> 00:03:03,693 Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's one of the reasons I do it. 61 00:03:03,773 --> 00:03:06,813 Speaker 3: So I give you extra protection around the walls things, 62 00:03:06,853 --> 00:03:11,853 Speaker 3: so that you know you're not really you're not pressuring yeah. Yeah, 63 00:03:11,893 --> 00:03:13,973 Speaker 3: otherwise it pressure builds up and can pop out, and 64 00:03:14,253 --> 00:03:15,973 Speaker 3: that's a real problem for weightlifters. 65 00:03:16,133 --> 00:03:20,013 Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, they're good. Sorry, little digression there, Look out, 66 00:03:21,173 --> 00:03:23,253 Speaker 2: and I mean are they serious? 67 00:03:24,293 --> 00:03:27,093 Speaker 3: Look? Look known most of them aren't serious. And the 68 00:03:27,133 --> 00:03:29,613 Speaker 3: commonest thing I say, we see this commonly in general 69 00:03:29,653 --> 00:03:32,733 Speaker 3: practice as GPS, and people will often come in and say, look, 70 00:03:32,933 --> 00:03:35,213 Speaker 3: I've just noticed this little lump in my stomach, and 71 00:03:35,253 --> 00:03:37,853 Speaker 3: I'll point to where it is, or the other thing 72 00:03:37,893 --> 00:03:41,333 Speaker 3: they complain of is, look, I've just noticed this uncomfortable 73 00:03:41,373 --> 00:03:44,773 Speaker 3: feeling or the slight pain, especially when I bend over 74 00:03:44,973 --> 00:03:47,813 Speaker 3: or sort of lift things. And again people can point 75 00:03:47,853 --> 00:03:51,293 Speaker 3: to where exactly it is. And so so generally we 76 00:03:51,573 --> 00:03:54,213 Speaker 3: have a look for them. And they're very small, and 77 00:03:54,333 --> 00:03:56,533 Speaker 3: if you can feel the lump, they often pop out 78 00:03:56,573 --> 00:03:58,293 Speaker 3: and you can push them back in so they can 79 00:03:58,333 --> 00:04:00,413 Speaker 3: come out. They call reducible they come out and then 80 00:04:00,493 --> 00:04:03,293 Speaker 3: but you can feel where they actually are. Now, over 81 00:04:03,413 --> 00:04:06,733 Speaker 3: time they can become bigger, and they can call more 82 00:04:06,733 --> 00:04:09,253 Speaker 3: discomfort and they can cause more pain, and in those 83 00:04:09,293 --> 00:04:13,653 Speaker 3: situations we need to get them treated. And very the 84 00:04:13,693 --> 00:04:16,653 Speaker 3: one serious thing which is quite uncommon, which can occur, 85 00:04:16,773 --> 00:04:19,933 Speaker 3: the intestine pops out and you suddenly can't push it 86 00:04:19,973 --> 00:04:23,333 Speaker 3: back in, and it becomes what we call irreducible Now, 87 00:04:23,373 --> 00:04:27,093 Speaker 3: in those situations, the vowel can twist of it suddenly 88 00:04:27,133 --> 00:04:32,013 Speaker 3: become very painful, can develop a temperature, and very tender 89 00:04:32,053 --> 00:04:34,893 Speaker 3: to touch. And in those situations you do need to 90 00:04:34,893 --> 00:04:37,373 Speaker 3: see a doctor straight away to get urgent treatment. So 91 00:04:37,453 --> 00:04:41,213 Speaker 3: that's the one complication that we do watch out for them. 92 00:04:41,413 --> 00:04:44,213 Speaker 2: And what do you do about Yeah. 93 00:04:44,133 --> 00:04:47,093 Speaker 3: So, look, if someone comes in to see me the surgery, Look, 94 00:04:47,133 --> 00:04:50,173 Speaker 3: we take a history and examination, We examine the patient, 95 00:04:50,213 --> 00:04:54,133 Speaker 3: look for the hernia. Occasionally we'll order an ultrasound which 96 00:04:54,693 --> 00:04:56,853 Speaker 3: shows up the hernia. It's like a little test we 97 00:04:56,893 --> 00:04:59,613 Speaker 3: do to see that it's there. Now, Look, if it's 98 00:04:59,733 --> 00:05:02,253 Speaker 3: very small and not causing any problems, we just watch 99 00:05:02,253 --> 00:05:04,293 Speaker 3: and wait. There's no point in doing anything if it's 100 00:05:04,333 --> 00:05:07,813 Speaker 3: not causing problems. However, if I over time it becomes bigger, 101 00:05:08,053 --> 00:05:10,893 Speaker 3: cause a bit more discomfort, a bit more pain, we 102 00:05:10,933 --> 00:05:13,813 Speaker 3: refer you to a general surgeon to get an operation. Now, 103 00:05:13,813 --> 00:05:17,293 Speaker 3: the operations are red good these days. They're often done 104 00:05:17,293 --> 00:05:20,493 Speaker 3: through keyholes, little laparoscopes, and they put in a number 105 00:05:20,493 --> 00:05:23,573 Speaker 3: of stitches to seal the muscle wall, or they put 106 00:05:23,613 --> 00:05:26,173 Speaker 3: in what we call a mesh to go over the 107 00:05:26,213 --> 00:05:29,493 Speaker 3: hern your and stop it happening, So look very easy 108 00:05:29,533 --> 00:05:32,253 Speaker 3: to ficture general surgery. Day surgery. You're in and out, 109 00:05:32,373 --> 00:05:35,813 Speaker 3: the problems fixed. I suppose. The other thing is if 110 00:05:35,853 --> 00:05:38,493 Speaker 3: they are there. We often advise people things like, look, 111 00:05:38,573 --> 00:05:42,293 Speaker 3: don't become constipated. Increases your risk. Try to keep the 112 00:05:42,333 --> 00:05:45,173 Speaker 3: weight off because that increases the risk. And actually be 113 00:05:45,333 --> 00:05:49,613 Speaker 3: really really careful with lifting heavy weights like a weightlifter. Yeah, real, carefully, 114 00:05:49,733 --> 00:05:51,253 Speaker 3: bend with your knees, not with your back. 115 00:05:51,373 --> 00:05:53,533 Speaker 2: Okay, Hey, thank you very much, Brian. I appreciate that, 116 00:05:53,613 --> 00:05:56,893 Speaker 2: as always, doctor Brian Betting. Jack weightlifters also use the 117 00:05:56,893 --> 00:05:59,573 Speaker 2: belt so they can embrace their abdominal muscles against something 118 00:05:59,653 --> 00:06:02,173 Speaker 2: like pushing out. You can tell that I don't do 119 00:06:02,173 --> 00:06:05,813 Speaker 2: a lot of weightlifting. I guess you've never bumped into 120 00:06:05,853 --> 00:06:07,013 Speaker 2: me on the street. There's not going to have a 121 00:06:07,213 --> 00:06:07,853 Speaker 2: huge surprise. 122 00:06:08,533 --> 00:06:11,653 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 123 00:06:11,733 --> 00:06:14,573 Speaker 1: to News Talks ed B from nine am Saturday, or 124 00:06:14,653 --> 00:06:16,533 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.