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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Heather

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Speaker 1: Duper c Ellen Drive with one New Zealand coverage like

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Speaker 1: no one else news talks.

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Speaker 2: That'd be.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon, Welcome to the show. Coming up today, we're going

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Speaker 3: to talk to Acacia O'Connor, the protester who was outside

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Speaker 3: She's going to be with us after five New Zealand

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Speaker 3: post on the news that they're dropping yet another delivery

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Speaker 3: he's joined the Auckland Business Chamber to help out the

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Speaker 3: pacifica economy together do to c Ellen, can I suggest

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Speaker 3: to you that the Greens need to step up here

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Speaker 3: and tell their activist mates to call off the protests

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Speaker 3: outside Winston's home. I'm pleased to see that Chloe Swarbrick

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Speaker 3: has at least condemned the attack where Winston's window was

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Speaker 3: that's about as far as she's gone. She still thinks

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Speaker 3: the protests themselves are okay, given that they are and

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Speaker 3: I am quoting her here entirely legal, well, I mean yeah,

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Speaker 3: sure they are legal, but I don't think that any

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Speaker 3: at night, they are sometimes as late as ten with

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Speaker 3: And sure, maybe she didn't organize them, but yesterday she

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Speaker 3: woman who revealed Winston Peter's address on social media. And

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Speaker 3: Chloe already knew that there had been protests at Winston's

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Speaker 3: this is the party of Rikardo men Endez March, who

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Speaker 3: wrote a letter supporting a lawyer who threw flake fake

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Speaker 3: blood on MP's electorate officers. Now the Greens are the

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Speaker 3: first to complain when they are being targeted, aren't they

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Speaker 3: about bussy getting the online threats about how their female

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Speaker 3: is intimidating another party's lead at his house at night,

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Speaker 3: on how they would feel if it wasn't Winston's house,

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Speaker 3: And it's also not okay that it's happening outside Winston's

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Speaker 3: Is the text number. Standard text fees apply. Now. Good news.

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Speaker 3: Police are backing off a planned staffing restructure following public backlash.

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Speaker 3: Under the plan, you'll remember this, one rural police officer

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Speaker 3: Now they say the more than one thousand people submittive

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Speaker 3: feedback on the changes. Tony Hill is the Canterbury District

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Speaker 3: Commander superintendent and us Hi, Tony, Hi, how are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm very well say, I know you're dying to say it,

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Speaker 3: so just get it over and done with.

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Speaker 4: But you owe me a coffee.

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Speaker 3: I do owe you a coffee because I bet you

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Speaker 3: you weren't going to change your mind and you changed it.

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Speaker 4: Well, you were quite convinced we were going to steam

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sorry, Tony, I was far too certain of myself.

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Speaker 3: Now why did you reverse it?

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Speaker 4: Well, it had me reflecting on the you know, one

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Speaker 4: for review the feedback and there was eight hundred that

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Speaker 4: things that we were trying to address we just organizationally

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Speaker 4: we had improved on and particularly from the district our staff,

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Speaker 4: we're doing a great job and improving in some of

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Speaker 4: those places. Took around managing our demand, which brought into

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Speaker 4: I started the question the relevant and you know, we're

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Speaker 4: sort of disrupting people and upsetting communities by achieving this,

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Speaker 3: I mean part of the problem that you was it

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Speaker 3: that you were trying to make sure that Jura and Rolliston,

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Speaker 4: Well, We've still think we've got some positions that we've

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Speaker 4: already got in place out there that aren't affected by

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Speaker 4: the restructure. We're going to get together as a team

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Speaker 4: tomorrow and see one of the things we've got in

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Speaker 4: place now that aren't actually impact will require restructure to

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Speaker 4: mindful and monitoring out how much we demand we have

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Speaker 4: we are doing very well. And I think actually it's

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Speaker 3: Is this a case where you think you can actually

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Speaker 3: cover on Urda and Rolliston properly or are you going

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Speaker 4: No, we're definitely not going to need a or resource.

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Speaker 4: And what we have seen throughout this is that we

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Speaker 4: know that we've got enough numbers to manage the demanders

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Speaker 4: in the right places. But what we've seen from our

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Speaker 3: Fair enough, Okay, so when are we doing the coffee?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 4: I might hold that one over you for next time.

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Speaker 3: Mate, Why not make sure we get an easy interview

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Speaker 3: next time Tony? Thanks very much. My best of luck

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Speaker 3: with Tony Hill. Canterbury District Command is Superintendent. Look, I'm

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Speaker 3: all about declaring bias and making sure that people understand

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Speaker 3: and you think I'm going too soft, it's because of

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Speaker 3: what just happens. Because I owe a m coffee. Now

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Speaker 3: New Zealand Post listen, this has come out today not

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Speaker 3: They are going to drop delivery days. They're going to

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Speaker 3: please don't check something cool on my mailbox. Now I'm worried.

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Speaker 3: I'm worried about what I'm going to find in there.

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Speaker 6: Now I'm putting the idea in your head as well,

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Speaker 6: I genuinely don't think most of us are going to

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Speaker 3: But you cannot be surprised by this. And also I

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Speaker 3: reckon it's not that far away where if you're living

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Speaker 3: we'll talk to the CEO of New Zealand Post. He's

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Speaker 3: Heather, do you think when he's going to start shoplifting

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Speaker 3: now that he's been traumatized? I hope not. No, No,

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Speaker 3: hosters with that's all it does. Hello, Heather, who's going

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Speaker 3: to take over from Dame Knowles Well?

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Speaker 7: Avett's got at the moment whether she wants to carry

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Speaker 7: on full time? Who knows well, isn't she.

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Speaker 3: She and her husband are running what's the Catholic boys' school.

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Speaker 7: Since Stevens Since Stevens. Yeah, yeah, and they've got that

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Speaker 7: up and running again. When she came to help Netborne,

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Speaker 7: and her husband said you do it, and she just

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Speaker 7: wants to help. That's what she says. I'm looking to

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Speaker 7: get her on tonight talk more about that. I'm interested

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Speaker 7: in a number of things because plainly none of us

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Speaker 7: We don't know who made the accusations. We don't know

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Speaker 7: what the offer was the Neckbull New Zealand from Dame

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Speaker 7: Nolean and her group to carry on playing. We don't

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Speaker 7: know if Neckbull New Zealand want to even keep Dame

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Speaker 7: Nolen toto. There are so many and this has gone

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Speaker 7: on for how long now, either a few weeks. There

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Speaker 7: are loose ends everywhere. See More's the point is Nipple

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Speaker 7: New Zealand. Are they actually capable of naming a new

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Speaker 3: I know, right? Does he a question for you? We

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Speaker 3: don't know what Dame Noles has been accused of. No,

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Speaker 3: does Dame Noles know what she's been accused of?

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Speaker 7: No, from what I can gather, she doesn't.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm hearing as well.

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Speaker 7: And not only did she not know, she don't know,

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Speaker 7: she doesn't know, don't know, she doesn't know who accused her.

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Speaker 3: So they've called her and so so what we're hearing,

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Speaker 3: piece this together, right, So there's no official confirmation from that.

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Speaker 7: This is a Frankenstein monster of an opinion.

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Speaker 3: But what we're hearing is that she's been called in

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Speaker 3: and she's been told that players have made anonymous complaints.

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Speaker 3: Will not name the.

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Speaker 7: Behalf of other players, behalf of us.

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Speaker 3: Will not name the players, and will not tell her

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Speaker 3: what the complaint is because that would be naming the players.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, how do you do?

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Speaker 3: What is wrong with Netbarre, New Zealand? How can you

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Speaker 3: This is not natural justice?

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Speaker 7: I tell you what. The media of Sir Carry Manders

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Speaker 7: is fantastic carry. So I believe that event will be

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Speaker 7: joining us tonight because she's been one that you can

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Speaker 7: rely on. It's awful. It's awful for the team, it's

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Speaker 7: awful for the fans, it's awful for the younger fans

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Speaker 7: who idolize these players. And you've got to look to

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Speaker 7: Grace Wicker who basically said this and had it go

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Speaker 7: It is so good. Whether they can get the same

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Speaker 7: This is supposed to be like this is it? This

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Speaker 3: I appreciate your time.

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Speaker 7: Thank you. I really like processing sport for you.

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Speaker 1: Cutting through the noise to get the facts. It's Heather

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Speaker 3: They'd be four twenty five. So this is what Chloe

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Speaker 10: New Zealanders are incredibly angry and frustrated. They want somewhere

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Trouble with that is that then that night somebody went

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Speaker 3: no disrespect to Adrian All, who is a very intelligent man,

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Speaker 1: Owning digging deeper into the day's headlines. It's Heather Duplicylan

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Speaker 2: They'd be.

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Speaker 3: It's just a reminder that after five o'clock we're going

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Speaker 3: They've done everything in the twenty eight list from quarter

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Speaker 3: it's twenty three away from five.

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Speaker 2: It's the world wires on news dogs.

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Speaker 3: They'd be drive so. French President Emmanuel mccron is under

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Speaker 1: Being prime minister is a difficult task, undoubtedly even a

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Speaker 3: He's the third French prime minister to leave since December,

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Speaker 3: the Senate has failed for a fifth time to reopen

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Speaker 3: Whoopi Goldberg has suggested that people confuse the immigration agent's

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Speaker 14: Everybody, get a little color butter set in the sun,

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Speaker 15: She can tell who.

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Speaker 1: Is international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of

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Speaker 3: He is telling them to do some cultural appropriation and

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Speaker 16: He has sixty year old man Temios mints Us in

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Speaker 16: So this guy's gone bang bang bang for nearly two hours.

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Speaker 16: one guy sitid in hospital. Sixteen others were treated for

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Speaker 16: flying glass mass.

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Speaker 3: What is the graffiti that's been sprayed in Melbourne?

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Speaker 16: It says glory to Hummaus in dirty, great big letters

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Speaker 16: that cannot be missed from the street. And of course

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Speaker 16: it today is the second anniversary of the Hummas attack

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Speaker 16: in Israel. Twelve hundred dead, two hundred and fifty taken hostage,

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Speaker 16: So it's the last thing anyone wants to see over here.

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Speaker 16: Some idiots are out and about discussing and condemned by

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Speaker 16: the government, by the opposition. Everybody who's got half a

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Speaker 16: brain will condemn that sort of that sort of graffiti,

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Speaker 16: you know, And we're not immune here in Sydney. I

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Speaker 16: mean that was down in Melbourne tonight. In Sydney there's

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Speaker 16: a Glory to our Martyrs demonstration been organized out for

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Speaker 16: the western suburbs at or Southwest Sydney Bankstown. The Premier

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Speaker 16: Chris men said, terrible timing. Come on use any other

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Speaker 16: of the three hundred and sixty four days of the year,

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Speaker 16: and this afternoon New South Wales police in the Supreme

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Speaker 16: Court trying to block a march this Sunday that's proposed

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Speaker 16: to start from the center of town and end up

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Speaker 16: at the Sydney Opera House. Police are on public safety

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Speaker 16: grounds and simply can't be allowed to happen. A busy

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Speaker 16: Sunday afternoon, lovely Sunday afternoon spring in Sydney. The Opera

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Speaker 16: House has got ticketed events, it's got that lovely opera

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Speaker 16: bar there. You'll have people having lunch. They don't want

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Speaker 16: ten thousand lunatics descending on the place and you know

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Speaker 16: and making a ruckus. Police salers sort out some other

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Speaker 16: end point for your march and will facilitate that, but

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Speaker 16: the opera house must be off limits for public safety.

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Speaker 3: Interesting muzz, Thank you as always appreciate talking to you.

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Speaker 3: Murray Old's Australia.

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Speaker 2: Correspondent Heather due to see Ellen.

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Speaker 3: Heither stop bagging the list at least at least the

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Speaker 3: slot gets stuff done. Naha, listen, no, no, no, listen,

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Speaker 3: it's legit to bag the list. I mean it's like

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Speaker 3: because it's boring, and still I still think that they

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Speaker 3: should do it, because look, I did this. I did

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Speaker 3: study political management at university and I do understand that

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Speaker 3: what they're doing is like this is very good political

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Speaker 3: but it is boring. I mean, it's like me going

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Speaker 3: through my list with you for what I need to

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Speaker 3: do tonight. Tonight I have to consider what meat I

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Speaker 3: should retrieve from the freezer for tomorrow night's dinner. I

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Speaker 3: need to also consider reviewing where the baby is at

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Speaker 3: in terms of progressing her through the toddler food. And

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Speaker 3: then I may need to at some stage, if it's

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Speaker 3: still daylight when I get home, recheck the SPA for

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Speaker 3: the leak that I thought was there this morning. Like

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Speaker 3: that's dull. You don't need to know that stuff, do you,

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Speaker 3: It's like telling someone your dreams, isn't it. It's boring anyway. Still,

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Speaker 3: having said that, I still think they need to do it. Now, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm rarely disappointed. I'm going to tell you why I'm disappointed.

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Speaker 3: So you can pre order right now the Jasinda the

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Speaker 3: Untold Stories book, which is written by David Cohen. Now,

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Speaker 3: there is a part of me that really wants this

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Speaker 3: book to do well because I'm interviewed for it, as

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Speaker 3: is Mike. So you know, you're going to get a

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Speaker 3: different perspective from what I've read in Grant's book and

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Speaker 3: just say this book, You're gonna it's gonna be a

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Speaker 3: little more balanced, isn't it. So I'm here for this book.

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Speaker 3: And also, David is a very is well known, he

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Speaker 3: writes well, he's done a lot of books, knows what

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Speaker 3: he's doing, right, So I'm into this and I'm into

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Speaker 3: just a little bit more. I'm into the just in

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Speaker 3: the story kind of being fleshed out and being a

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Speaker 3: little bit more honest. But unfortunately, now that I see it,

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Speaker 3: so you can now I've realized who's publishing, and it's

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Speaker 3: the Centrist. Now I don't have a problem with the

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Speaker 3: Centrist whatever. I'd like, to be completely honest with you,

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Speaker 3: I don't think I've read very I think I might

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Speaker 3: have read one article that the c interest, and I

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Speaker 3: suspect it might have been actually on the carbon emissions

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Speaker 3: the carbon cost per ton of the green bins in Auckland.

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Speaker 3: So it's a very good piece that they did. But

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Speaker 3: the problem is the Centrist does have something of a

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Speaker 3: kind of perception issue and that it is considered to

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Speaker 3: be from the right. So if you're going to get

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Speaker 3: a book like this about Justinda In and then it's

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Speaker 3: published by people who are considered to be from the right,

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Speaker 3: you go, you know, like, I feel like it's already

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Speaker 3: I just yeah, I think you get my point very

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Speaker 3: So as next.

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Speaker 1: Quarter to politics with Centrics, credit check your customers and

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Speaker 1: get payments certainty.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I've got a tip for your fighting parking tickets

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Speaker 3: which you might find helpful. Thirteen away from we'll get

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Speaker 3: to that. Thirteen away from five barries so per senior

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Speaker 3: political correspondence with us Alo Barry afternoon.

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Speaker 7: Hither I hope we do get to it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh no, and we will. In fact, I'm going

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Speaker 3: to cut you shorts to be able to talk about it. Okay,

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Speaker 3: tell me about this debate on the Middle East.

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Speaker 17: Well, it was Whinston Peters came into the house and

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Speaker 17: as a minister's able to do, said he wanted to

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Speaker 17: make a statement on the Middle East, which means other

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Speaker 17: parties can reply to it. So he was marking the

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Speaker 17: occasion of two years ago today was Hummers invaded at

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Speaker 17: Israel and twelve hundred people were killed and others taken hostage,

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Speaker 17: and the likes was terrible. And I remember at the

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Speaker 17: time saying, I hope they get rid of Hummits, but

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Speaker 17: not to the extent that the Israelis have gone to

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Speaker 17: to get rid of Hummers. But anyway, Peter's faced off

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Speaker 17: against labor as foreign A fear spokesman Penny henare here.

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Speaker 17: He is followed by Henar.

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Speaker 18: One irony here they will not be lost on many

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Speaker 18: news illness is that the very protesters and their supporters

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Speaker 18: who believe we must break off diplomatic relations with Israel

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Speaker 18: are receiving consular assistance precisely because we did not do that,

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Speaker 18: and they wish to break off dipomatic relations with Israel. Nevertheless,

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Speaker 18: another irony is that three private individuals freely chose to

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Speaker 18: place themselves in a dangerous situation, but now expect their

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Speaker 18: government to bail them out. We'll do exactly that, not

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Speaker 18: least because the government feels a sense of responsibility even

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Speaker 18: for those who act utterly irresponsibly.

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Speaker 19: When history calls, a true leader will answer. On Palestine,

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Speaker 19: the Prime Minister has let the call go unanswered. The

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Speaker 19: decisiveness that has been demonstrated by other countries only reinforces.

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Speaker 19: That is, the expectation that the peace plans proposed by

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Speaker 19: the United States must be fully implemented before this government

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Speaker 19: will recognize Palestine as a state.

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Speaker 18: There are fundamental things here that other countries might have

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Speaker 18: changed because of enormous pressure back home. So what happened

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Speaker 18: tomorrow after you make that decision?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 7: What changes?

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Speaker 18: And so we make this speech in that nation? Were

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Speaker 18: all this recognition changed? Nothing until Trump, alongside Saudi Arabia

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Speaker 18: and others got together a peace plan and we hope

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Speaker 18: it works.

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Speaker 17: I think we can all agree with that, Heather. But yeah,

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Speaker 17: it was an interesting debate because it traversed the whole

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Speaker 17: of the thing. And of course the beginning of that

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Speaker 17: was all about the flotilla. And I see another two

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Speaker 17: New Zealanders are on their way here as well. But

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Speaker 17: I heard Winston say earlier. He didn't say it in

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Speaker 17: the speech, but the three that have been taken in

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Speaker 17: by the Israelis will be transported to Jordan, and it

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Speaker 17: sounds as though they might be on their own there

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Speaker 17: to get back to this country.

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Speaker 3: That's very much I like that. Yeah, Look, I don't

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Speaker 3: think the Greens come out of this Winston Peter's protest

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Speaker 3: situation at his house looking very good.

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Speaker 17: No, they don't, and you know, to demonstrate the way

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Speaker 17: they have.

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Speaker 7: I mean, it's not the first time.

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Speaker 17: Winston Peter's place has been attacked by protesters. I can't remember,

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Speaker 17: We're not was, but there was red paint splashed all

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Speaker 17: over the place and stickers put up that Winston had

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Speaker 17: to take down. And for MPs to be targeted like

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Speaker 17: this or any publicly elected official is to me just

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Speaker 17: totally unacceptable. So the protest outside elected officials home that

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Speaker 17: that legislation is due back before Parliament shortly, and the

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Speaker 17: Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith has called on other parties to

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Speaker 17: support it.

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Speaker 15: To Speaker, everybody should be able to enjoy their privacy

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Speaker 15: at home and be free from unreasonable interference with it.

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Speaker 15: We don't think it's acceptable for people to bang pots

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Speaker 15: and pans all through the night, or to create an

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Speaker 15: environment of fear and intimidation for individuals, their families and neighbors.

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Speaker 15: Mister Speaker, Intimidation has no place in our democracy and

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Speaker 15: I call upon all members, all parties in Parliament, particularly

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Speaker 15: the Greens but also Labor to join the government to

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Speaker 15: defend that principle.

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Speaker 17: And you know, the outrages from peace is I think understandable.

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Speaker 17: And you remember just a few years back James Shaw,

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Speaker 17: the former co leader of the Greens was attacked on

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Speaker 17: Wellington Street. Well, there was no party lines then. Everybody

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Speaker 17: was upset at that and rightly so.

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Speaker 3: On the Marti Party wasn't already kiper is supposed to

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Speaker 3: be sworn in today.

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Speaker 17: She was supposed to be sworn and John Tammerherry was

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Speaker 17: at Parliament today saying that concentration should be made on that.

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Speaker 7: Well, if the.

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Speaker 17: Party's concentration was on the swearing end of the new

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Speaker 17: MP it didn't happen today.

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Speaker 12: From the Electoral Commission a RITZ declaring al any co

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Speaker 12: partter to be elected at the by election for the

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Speaker 12: Tamaki Makoto electoral district I've also received from the Electoral

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Speaker 12: Commission a return declaring Michael John Davidson to be elected

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Speaker 12: a Member of Parliament to fill the vacancy list vacancy

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Speaker 12: created by the resignation of Benjamin Doyle. Both those members

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Speaker 12: have elected to be sworn in on a different day.

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Speaker 2: It's incredible.

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Speaker 17: Why, well, I've never heard of it. Well, no explanation

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Speaker 17: was offered. I don't know why decided both. This is

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Speaker 17: the Greens and of course the Blast.

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Speaker 3: The Maori Party is going to have a bit of

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Speaker 3: a distinct time when they finally actually start answering questions.

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Speaker 8: I don't know, I mean, it's the burning question.

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Speaker 3: Actually, Okay, Barry, thank you very much. Barry Sober, senior

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Speaker 3: political correspondent. Away from five.

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Speaker 1: Hard Talk, Bold Takes Big stories. It's the Mic Hosking breakfast.

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Speaker 20: So the government's going to pay for your vaping now, yes,

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Speaker 20: that's right. In three flavors. Doctor Kelly Burrows is the

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Speaker 20: lead researcher're in vaping for the Auckland University Bioengineering Instituting.

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Speaker 21: I'm glad that you are laughing about it as well.

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Speaker 8: Well, what else can we do?

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Speaker 20: I mean, for goodness sake, what's the state of vaping as.

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Speaker 8: You understand it in this country. Are we winning?

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Speaker 21: I do not think we're are winning In New Zealand.

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Speaker 21: We've got some of the highest vaping rates in the

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Speaker 21: world and it's very much because the government and now

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Speaker 21: New Zealand are really promoting vaping and there are approved

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Speaker 21: methods that are safe to help people get off smoking.

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Speaker 21: So I have the dons already sending the wrong message

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Speaker 21: by supporting this product.

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Speaker 20: Back tomorrow at six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 20: the Land Driver, Defend and Us.

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Speaker 3: Talk zb Heather, what is the MP for Auckland Central

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Speaker 3: doing to support her constituent, Winston Peters and his harrissment

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Speaker 3: and his own own home? keV, you ask a very

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Speaker 3: good question. The one who's been doing the harrising is

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Speaker 3: of course a Caasha O'Connor, who was the one who

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Speaker 3: just by the way, she just had her contract. She's

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Speaker 3: a what update? How have I not told you this one?

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Speaker 3: New Zealand. You know how they've got those campaign They've

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Speaker 3: got the new ads with the two of the kids

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Speaker 3: are lying and staring up at the sky and stars

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Speaker 3: and stuff and it's your mum, Well that's her that's

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Speaker 3: a casia. She one New Zealand just cut her contract.

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Speaker 3: Looks like the whole campaign has to be ditch now. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: we'll talk to her next alfter five. Now, did you

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Speaker 3: know it's four away from five? Did you know that

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Speaker 3: if you get a parking ticket in your car which

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Speaker 3: is registered to your name, but you're not the one

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Speaker 3: who was driving the car, did you know you don't

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Speaker 3: have to pay the parking ticket. Now we know this

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Speaker 3: because of a couple of cases that have gone to

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Speaker 3: the dispute tribunal. One of them was a guy who

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Speaker 3: lent his car to his daughter. She went to the

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Speaker 3: vape store, but she parked in the laundromat car park.

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Speaker 3: The parking company got a debt collected to send a

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Speaker 3: demand for it was ridiculous. It was like four hundred

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Speaker 3: and sixty dollars and they wanted fifty four dollars in

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Speaker 3: interest on top, and blah blah blah. The tribunal said

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Speaker 3: the man didn't have to pay the ticket, his daughter

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Speaker 3: had to pay the ticket. The daughter's liable. Also, they

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Speaker 3: could only charge ninety five dollars, not the like four

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Speaker 3: hundred something plus because that's what the signage on the

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Speaker 3: car park said there was another case where a woman

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Speaker 3: lent her car to her son. He parked in a

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Speaker 3: space owned by a laundromat. They wanted to ticket the

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Speaker 3: woman five hundred and fourteen dollars for thirteen dollars. She

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Speaker 3: said she was not the driver, so the car parking

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Speaker 3: company then wrote to her and said, if you were

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Speaker 3: not the driver, please complete a statutory declaration so you

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Speaker 3: can transfer liability to the driver. And the woman said, nah,

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Speaker 3: I don't have to do that. I'm under no obligation

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Speaker 3: to complete a statutory declaration, and the tribunal found she

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Speaker 3: didn't have to. So Number one, if you're not driving

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Speaker 3: the car, don't pay the ticket. Number two, if they're

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Speaker 3: making you transfer liability to your husband or your wife

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Speaker 3: or your child, don't do it. Just helping you fight

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Speaker 3: the good far against the car parking people. You're welcome

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Speaker 3: News Talk Zippy, you said my heart.

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Speaker 12: From the.

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Speaker 2: Only drive show.

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Speaker 1: You can try to ask the questions, get the answers,

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Speaker 1: find a fact.

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Speaker 2: And give the analysis.

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Speaker 1: Here the duplicy Ellen Drive with One New Zealand and

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Speaker 1: the power of satellite mobile News Talk Zippi Afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Telco One New Zealand has cut its contract with an

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Speaker 3: actor in its most recent campaign over the protests outside

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Speaker 3: Winston Peter's house. Now the actor is Acacia O'Connor, who

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Speaker 3: shared Winston Peter's address online and who stood next to

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Speaker 3: Chloe Swarbrick of the Greens at a press conference yesterday.

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Speaker 3: One of the windows on the Foreign Minister's property was

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Speaker 3: smashed last night. So let's talk to Akesha O'Connor High,

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Speaker 3: Acacia Tarquere Heaver, do you know the person who broke

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Speaker 3: Winston's window?

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Speaker 11: No, no, I've seen a photo and none of our

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Speaker 11: group seems to know who he is.

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Speaker 3: So not connected to your to your your gaza protest,

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Speaker 3: not connected at all. Okay, do you think, given what

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Speaker 3: has now happened, but just you know the fact of

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Speaker 3: protesting outside his house, that you were wrong to protest

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Speaker 3: outside his house and share his address.

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 11: I actually no, I don't think so. So it is

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Speaker 11: New Zealander's legal right to protest. And yeah, there was

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Speaker 11: a bill that was went through yesterday to try to

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Speaker 11: change that, of course, to be able to protest in

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Speaker 11: residential areas. But at this point, when we when we

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Speaker 11: were there on the day that our friends were illegally

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Speaker 11: kidnapped by Israel. It was it was perfectly legal. The

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Speaker 11: cops were there and they were very actually quite supportive

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Speaker 11: of us, and I got sharing. Yeah, oh yeah, I

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Speaker 11: was just get into that. But yes, I was just saying, yes,

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Speaker 11: I shared that the street that we were on to

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Speaker 11: come and join us for a peaceful protest.

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Speaker 3: So, yeah, taking you guys at your word, what has

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Speaker 3: happened is you've you've shared his address out there and

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Speaker 3: and we now have somebody who's crowbarred his window, right,

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Speaker 3: So was that a wise idea?

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Speaker 11: I was really I was really sorry to hear about that.

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Speaker 11: I was really sorry to hear about that, for sure.

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Speaker 3: How many times have you been outside his house protesting?

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Speaker 11: That was the first time I've been down there.

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Speaker 3: Actually, what about other protesters?

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Speaker 11: There's been other protests outside Winston's house over the last

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Speaker 11: few years at various things. When Ruffia was first invaded,

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Speaker 11: there was a protest outside his house as well as

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Speaker 11: other kind of significant dates that people were were saying,

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Speaker 11: is this how many times do you? I don't know,

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Speaker 11: Actually I couldn't. I couldn't give you a number.

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Speaker 3: What's the late have any of them been? After dark? Probably?

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Speaker 11: I would say, so I in winter, I would imagine, So.

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Speaker 3: What's the latest?

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Speaker 11: So we were there from six thirty ish till ten.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that's appropriate mine?

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Speaker 11: Well, as we said to the cops, and they agreed

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Speaker 11: with us that it's the We were aware of school

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Speaker 11: holidays because we have children, and we had some children

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Speaker 11: with us as well, and we were singing and we

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Speaker 11: were chanting and the noise control. When the noise control

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Speaker 11: asked us to quiet down, we quiet and down and

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Speaker 11: we left it ten, which they said was a reasonable

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Speaker 11: time for you, because you realize.

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Speaker 3: That there will be some occasions. And I know for

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Speaker 3: a fact there have been some occasions with you guys,

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Speaker 3: not just you obviously, but the group have been outside

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Speaker 3: his house and the only person inside his house is

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Speaker 3: his partner, who is a woman by herself. Can you

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Speaker 3: imagine how intimidating that is?

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Speaker 11: I really can, and I am just hoping that he

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Speaker 11: can also. This is our last resort.

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Speaker 22: Do you know?

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Speaker 11: We have tried to email and call and do the

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Speaker 11: protests in public spaces.

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Speaker 3: And tell me, tell me you're thinking here, Acacia, you've

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Speaker 3: got a woman in her what I don't know, late sixties,

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Speaker 3: early mid seventies, who is by herself in the house,

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Speaker 3: who's going to do what? Call her partner and be like, oh, listen,

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Speaker 3: these guys want you to, you know, take a diplomamatic

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Speaker 3: standard like that's illogical. You're just scaring a woman.

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Speaker 11: I don't see it that way. We were not being

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Speaker 11: threatening and.

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Speaker 3: You don't think so. You don't think there have been

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Speaker 3: occasions where paint has been poured on their patio. You

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Speaker 3: don't think that that's scary.

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Speaker 11: Well, I actually have been more involved with the global

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Speaker 11: movement to Gaza, which has been a newer and newer

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Speaker 11: I've been a newer joining of all of this, So

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Speaker 11: I actually haven't I don't know about about these occasions.

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Speaker 3: But what about like what about the other kids at school,

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Speaker 3: holidays or not? Kids go to bed, you know yourself,

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Speaker 3: if they are under the age of flip, I mean nine,

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Speaker 3: they're going to bed at seven at night. So for

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Speaker 3: three hours, you're disrupting neighborhood kids.

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Speaker 11: Yeah. We, as I said before, we were singing, and

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Speaker 11: we did keep the noise to a to a level

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Speaker 11: that we was deemed appropriate by the cops and Hale Control.

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Speaker 11: And at the very beginning we had loud haile A's

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Speaker 11: while the sun was still us as you said before,

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Speaker 11: and then we changed it to to singing and to

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Speaker 11: to we even the mood was full of love and love.

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Speaker 3: Love love is clearly bloody subjective in this case. I

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Speaker 3: don't think the jan on the inside is going to

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Speaker 3: feel like there's love coming at her. Tell me that

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Speaker 3: this is the last time it's going to happen.

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Speaker 11: Acacia, Well, I don't. I am not an authority on that,

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Speaker 11: but the Global Movement to Gaza we are a peaceful,

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Speaker 11: a peaceful group and we.

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Speaker 3: Well, just so that you understand what it looks like

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Speaker 3: from the other side, you do not look peaceful. You

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Speaker 3: look like you're trying to scare people.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, and where maybe you guys need to go and

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Speaker 11: taking for peace? Where fighting for Winston Peter's house. I'm

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Speaker 11: so sorry to hear that it had a stone go

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Speaker 11: through it. But we're here trying to ask him to

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Speaker 11: extend the right of a safe home to Palestinians whose

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Speaker 11: homes are being bombed every day indiscriminately not appropriate.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't make it appropriate, man, just because there are

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Speaker 3: some crime going on the other side of the world,

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Speaker 3: which absolutely is upsetting. So many of us who are mums.

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Speaker 3: Does not make it appropriate for you to start harassing

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Speaker 3: people in this country now. So I'm taking it from

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Speaker 3: what you've said. It's not going to be the last time?

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Speaker 2: Is that right?

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Speaker 11: I imagine? I imagine not. But like I said, I

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Speaker 11: don't have anything to do with you.

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Speaker 3: You realize that you are going to force the opposition

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Speaker 3: in Parliament to vote for that piece of legislation that

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Speaker 3: you don't want because they're going to.

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Speaker 7: Have to vote for it.

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Speaker 11: Now, Cletely, well, I feel I can see that they

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Speaker 11: are trying to take the rights of protesters away.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think I'm okay with that in this case.

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Speaker 3: Do you not think most people will be okay with that?

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Speaker 11: I don't know. I don't know about most people, but

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Speaker 11: I'm at the point where I'd be willing to beg

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Speaker 11: to sit at Winston Pea his feet and beg for

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Speaker 11: him to take a stand for Palestine vacationion.

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Speaker 3: Nobody, Akasha, nobody is gonna, Nobody is gonna is going

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Speaker 3: to criticize you for your position on Gaza. We most

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Speaker 3: of us feel like that it's the way that you're

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Speaker 3: doing it. Listen very quickly, have you had to hear

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Speaker 3: that most of you feel that way. Just pull you

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Speaker 3: hidden on this action. Man, it's inappropriate. Quick quickly tell

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Speaker 3: me have you heard from One New Zealand about cutting

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Speaker 3: you out of the ads?

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Speaker 7: Yes?

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Speaker 11: I have, Yes, I have?

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Speaker 3: And what do they cut the contract? Have they?

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Speaker 11: Yes? The contract has been cut. Yeah, as they are

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Speaker 11: choosing profit over people.

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Speaker 3: All right, okaysha, thanks very much. I really appreciate your time.

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Speaker 3: Acacia O'Connor, Gaza activist and protester who shared Winston Peter's

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Speaker 3: address online.

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Speaker 2: Five Heather do for see Ellen.

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Speaker 3: Heather, New Zealand says, stop to Acacia Heather. One New

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Speaker 3: Zealand has definitely done the right thing by dumping this

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Speaker 3: woman from their ad campaigns. In the text goo on,

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Speaker 3: we'll get back to some of them, and just to

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Speaker 3: take at seventeen past five. Now, let's say that they're

851
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Speaker 3: facing emotion blackmail from customers who don't want to pay

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Speaker 3: their bills. They are complaining of a riz and nasty behavior.

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Speaker 3: Kevin Bryant is chief executive of the New Zealand Veterinary

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Speaker 3: Association and with us Hi Kevin, yeah, hi here, how

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Speaker 3: are you good? Thank you? What kind of emotional abuse

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Speaker 3: are you guys going through.

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Speaker 23: Well, it's really a case of, you know, we've got

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Speaker 23: a situation in the country where everyone's struggling a little

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Speaker 23: bit with hard times, and what our vet clinics are

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Speaker 23: seen sometimes all too frequently is situations where clients are

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Speaker 23: coming in with an animal needing treatment, and when it

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Speaker 23: comes to sorting out the bill, they hit with the well,

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Speaker 23: we can't afford to pay that, and you shouldn't be

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Speaker 23: charging us. You're too expensive, and you know you should

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Speaker 23: just look after our animals for free.

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Speaker 3: Do you think it's an expectation that because if you

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Speaker 3: take yourself to ED, your treatment is free, Therefore if

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Speaker 3: you take your beloved animal it should be free too.

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Speaker 24: Well.

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Speaker 23: I think there's a huge amount of infusion in the

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00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 23: public arena between the fact that we have a heavily

872
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:10,720
Speaker 23: subsidized human health system and a totally unsubsidized animal health system,

873
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 23: and I think that's definitely part of it, and people,

874
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 23: I think drawing comparisons between the two.

875
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 3: Are people surprised at how much it costs to get

876
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 3: an animal seen to.

877
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 9: Yes is the short answer.

878
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 23: And I guess if they had the real information in

879
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,439
Speaker 23: front of them about what similar treatments might cost them

880
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 23: in the human field, if it wasn't subsidized, they probably

881
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 23: would think it's a really good deal.

882
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 3: Now this is only going to get more expensive, isn't it,

883
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 3: because there is a huge number of vets who are

884
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 3: going to drop out of it.

885
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 23: Well, we've got a shortage of veterinarians and vet nurses.

886
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 23: We've always had a shortage, but that hasn't gone away.

887
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 23: And we also have an aging workforce, so there is

888
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 23: Whilst we've got an increase in the number of people

889
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 23: who have been trained in MASSY, which is great, we

890
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 23: are also seeing people exiting the exiting the industry for

891
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 23: a lot of retiring and unfortunately some are leaving because

892
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 23: of the stress caused by some of these interactions with

893
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 23: the public and they leave clinical practice. Some more often

894
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 23: than not turn up working for somewhere else in the industry,

895
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 23: supporting the veterinarians, but not in clinical practice.

896
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 3: Okay, Kevin, listen, thanks very much for talking us through.

897
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 3: That's Kevin Bryant, chief executive of the New Zealand Veterinary Association.

898
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 3: It's twenty past five, Heather, do for see Allen, Heather

899
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 3: is a case. You're happy that this may stop her

900
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 3: ever getting another job. Heather Winston is fricking eighty and

901
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,760
Speaker 3: done so much for New Zealand. I'm angry on his behalf.

902
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 3: Here the police send me that woman's address. I'd like

903
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 3: to pop around with a loudhailer and a number of

904
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 3: noisy mates with drums to make it even better. Listen. Obviously, obviously,

905
00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 3: as tempting as that may be, this is not what

906
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 3: we want, right, None of us think. I don't think

907
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,720
Speaker 3: that we think it's appropriate to Harris Winston in his house,

908
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 3: or Acasia in her house, or Chloe in her house.

909
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 3: And this is where I really get quite cross about

910
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 3: this is that nobody plays the victim like the people

911
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 3: of the Greens.

912
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 22: Ah.

913
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 3: They were like bussy. People were mean to Bossy on

914
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 3: social media. Ah, people are so mean to Tory on

915
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 3: social media. People are mean to our lady MP's on

916
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 3: social media. But then the minute it's in real life,

917
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 3: around outside somebody else's house, justifiable because it's lawful. Well,

918
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 3: actually a lot of what's going on in social media

919
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 3: is also lawful, not nice, lawful, but your moan about

920
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 3: it like crazy. So how about we have good behavior

921
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 3: for everybody? You know what I mean anyway, listen, just

922
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 3: got to tell you there's a supermoon tonight. So I've

923
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 3: got your plans for seven thirty sorted. Now. A supermoon

924
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 3: is what the tin says. It's closer to the Earth,

925
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 3: so it looks bigger, like super bigger. So what you

926
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 3: want to do is you want to go out during sunset,

927
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 3: which is around seven thirty this evening, and you want

928
00:44:59,280 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 3: to look at the settings.

929
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: Right.

930
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 3: I think it's ok I think it's okay to look

931
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 3: at it when it's setting, as opposed when Donald Trump

932
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 3: looks at it, which is in full glare. So you know,

933
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 3: you go and google it yourself and see if it's okay.

934
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 3: But that's where best viewing time is at the setting point.

935
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 3: And if you miss it tonight you can still because

936
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 3: of bad weather, you can still do it tomorrow night.

937
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 3: Five to twenty one, The.

938
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: Day's newsmakers talk to Heather First, Heather Duplicy, Ellen Drive

939
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: with One New Zealand and the power of satellite mobile

940
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: news talks.

941
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 3: That'd be the post is getting reduced. We're going to

942
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 3: talk about that in about ten minutes after the news

943
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 3: five twenty four, Listen, we need to talk about why

944
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 3: we're persisting with having so many local body politicians. We

945
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 3: clearly have too many positions, don't we. I mean, just

946
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 3: look at how many people are winning their seats at

947
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 3: the moment the elections are this weekend. Look at how

948
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 3: many people are winning their seats without any elections, without

949
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 3: any without anybody standing against them in the elections, with

950
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 3: more than two hundred, that's one in every seven council races.

951
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 3: So Hodanui already has its mayor even though the elections

952
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 3: are this weekend. It's Marie Black, no one's standing against her.

953
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 3: One o we two already has its mayor, Michael Ford,

954
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 3: no one standing against him. There are more than eighty

955
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 3: councilors who are already elected across the country. There are

956
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 3: several on the Southland Regional Council already elected Lower Hut

957
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 3: Southland or Taranga, Buller, Stratford, Marlborough councils. Two of Auckland's

958
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 3: councils already elected unopposed, three of Christ churches. There are

959
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 3: also empty seats that no one wants to fill in

960
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 3: community boards in the Routrua Lakes, New Plymouth, kaituk Air, Clifton,

961
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 3: as well rural Hastings, Hand, Miss Springs, Twizel, and Matoda.

962
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 3: What that tells you is you have more positions to

963
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 3: fill than you have people who want to fill those positions. Now,

964
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 3: just have a look at your voting will please have

965
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 3: a look at your voting papers and vote if you can.

966
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 3: I voted in Auckland already, right. I had one vote

967
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 3: for mayor, I had one vote for council, and then

968
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 3: I had up to seven votes for my local board.

969
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 3: I didn't vote seven times for my local I didn't

970
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 3: know who all of those people were. I knew about

971
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 3: five of them, and at least two of them I

972
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 3: knew for bad reasons. I don't want to vote for them.

973
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 3: So you know, I think we're asking We clearly are

974
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 3: asking too much. And by the way, in Auckland, we

975
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 3: have one hundred and seventy two local board politicians by

976
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 3: the end of this process, and I'm not even counting

977
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 3: the local licensing Board. The Licensing Trust members one hundred

978
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 3: and seventy two, the most junior of which, which is

979
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 3: the ward counselors, get paid more than fifty four thousand

980
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 3: dollars each. Now, I think, looking at all of this,

981
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 3: we are well overdue tipping all of this up and

982
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 3: changing it and massively reducing the number of people that

983
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 3: we're paying to do probably not.

984
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 2: A lot, Heather duplusy Ellen.

985
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 3: So Michael and the news team crunched the numbers for

986
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 3: me because I was like, this is outrageous. So we

987
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 3: had a look at it. Right, In Auckland, one hundred

988
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 3: and seventy two elected members for one point eight million people.

989
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 3: That means for every ten and a half thousand people

990
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 3: in Auckland, we've got a politician in one politician for

991
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 3: every ten and a half thousand of us. In Southland

992
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 3: they have one hundred and fourteen elected members for one

993
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 3: hundred and four thousand people. That means they have one

994
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 3: politician for every nine hundred and ten people. That is ridiculous.

995
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 3: As he said, could be run by one unitary council

996
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 3: with basically ten elected members. In Kaikoda District they have

997
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 3: eight elected members for four four hundred people. That means

998
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 3: they have one politician for every five hundred and fifty people.

999
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, I reckon, if we even had

1000
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 3: it would have too many anyway. I think there's a cost,

1001
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 3: do you know what I mean? If Nicholas on a

1002
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 3: cost saving drive. How about looking at local body and

1003
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 3: just going slash slash slash slash. You'd save heaps there,

1004
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 3: wouldn't you. Anyway, Let's talk talk about saving and slashing.

1005
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 3: Talk to post next.

1006
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 2: The name you trust to get the answers you need.

1007
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: It's Heather Duplicyl and drive with one New Zealand coverage

1008
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: like no one else used talk the birbiity.

1009
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 3: Hither why did you tell everyone to look at the

1010
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 3: setting sun to view the supermoon, Julie, that's a really

1011
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 3: good question. I don't know. I can't answer that question.

1012
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 3: I also I, oh, now I'm confused because I think

1013
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 3: they did say you need to look at what's it

1014
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 3: a sunsets in that I know the sunsets in the west, Laura,

1015
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 3: thank you the Germans. You know you know she is.

1016
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 3: She's like, I've got the facts anyway, with the point

1017
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 3: of the point of what she's trying to say is,

1018
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 3: I don't know whether you're now, I don't know if

1019
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 3: you're supposed to look east or west anyway. You know what,

1020
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 3: you've got eyes figure it out. If you've got two

1021
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,399
Speaker 3: hours to figure this out for yourself, and I'll figure

1022
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 3: it out as well, I let you know tomorrow. Jeez,

1023
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 3: that I set you off in the wrong direction. Hither.

1024
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 3: I just voted for a whole lot of people who

1025
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 3: I have no idea who they are or what they

1026
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 3: will do and whoever gets and I'll probably never hear

1027
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 3: about what they do, if anything. I think that's why

1028
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 3: there's not a lot of interest in voting. No one

1029
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 3: understands who the hell everyone is. Grant, you've hit the

1030
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 3: nail on the head. You look at all those people,

1031
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 3: you go, oh lord, there's a lot of reading in

1032
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 3: this booklet. Now, I can't be That's why people don't

1033
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 3: vote anyway. Maurice Williamson is one of our huddlers who's

1034
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 3: going to be us shortly, so we'll see if he's

1035
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 3: got any hot tips on how to deal with us.

1036
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 3: Now twenty four away from six and what will come

1037
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 3: as absolutely no surprise to anyone, New Zealand Post has

1038
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 3: decided to deliver mail less often because of declining male volumes. Now,

1039
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 3: if you live in town, your three delivery days are

1040
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 3: going to go down to two, and if you live

1041
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 3: rurally you'll five delivery days are down to three. David

1042
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:24,879
Speaker 3: Walsh is the CEO of New Zealand Post.

1043
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 24: Hi, David, I get a Heather, how are you well?

1044
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:29,879
Speaker 3: Thank you? This is probably over, do you don't you think?

1045
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 24: Yeah, Look, the announcement today is something that we've been

1046
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 24: aware of, really as a result of the way that

1047
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 24: the Ylanders have changed their communication and habits. So it's

1048
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 24: twenty thirteen since the last time we had a change,

1049
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 24: and this is reflective of what's going on now.

1050
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,280
Speaker 3: Twenty thirteen do you reckon?

1051
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 5: So?

1052
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 3: Do you reckon? It'll be twelve years before we have

1053
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:49,439
Speaker 3: another change down.

1054
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 24: Well, look it's been hard to pick really. Look where

1055
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 24: the Zealand Posts have been around for one hundred and

1056
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 24: eighty five years. And look, our role is to deliver

1057
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 24: the services that New Zealand need. We'll keep delivering our mail.

1058
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 24: We'll have to respond to you know, the circumstances we're facing,

1059
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 24: but you know that's our job. That's what we'll continue

1060
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 24: to do.

1061
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 3: Well, you'd get another review when male volumes dip below?

1062
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 3: Is it one twenty million?

1063
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 24: Yeah, Look, there is a trigger point there that just

1064
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 24: allows you know, if there's a reset of if the

1065
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 24: circumstances are needing to be revisited. But look, we're not

1066
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 24: jumping to any conclusion.

1067
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 3: Well, what's your male volume at the moment, so about

1068
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 3: one fifty million. You'll had one twenty million in the

1069
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 3: next three years, don't you reckon?

1070
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 24: Yeah, Look, we fully expect mail decline male reductions to continue.

1071
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 24: These Ylanders are getting their communications vary very differently, so

1072
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 24: it's really just a chance to reset. I wouldn't get

1073
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 24: too presumptuous about but David, I mean might care at

1074
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 24: that time.

1075
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 3: It's entirely feasible, isn't it that we've just gone to

1076
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,760
Speaker 3: two days to urban addresses, three days to rural addresses,

1077
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 3: and within the next three years it'll be one day

1078
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 3: urban addresses, two days rural addresses. That's possible, isn't it.

1079
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 24: Well, yeah, again, I wouldn't want to speculate on it.

1080
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 24: We've certainly talked David.

1081
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 3: It's your job to speculate. Well, not maybe to me,

1082
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 3: but it's your job to know where this is going

1083
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 3: because you're the CEO.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, well, tell me we have a mail based on

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Speaker 24: what New Zealanders require us to do. They've changed the

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Speaker 24: way that they communicate, will continue to respond to that change. Yeah,

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Speaker 24: but you know, we've we've got a very big delivery network.

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00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,240
Speaker 24: We were out there delivering parcels every day. We've signaled

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Speaker 24: to the long term strategy, might see our network deliver

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Speaker 24: mail in terms of what's left over. So yeah, there'll

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Speaker 24: be way too early for us to speculate what might

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Speaker 24: happen in a few years from here.

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Speaker 3: David, it sounds to me like you are bracing yourself

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Speaker 3: for negative reaction. I would have thought that most people,

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, call me naive, and maybe I am,

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Speaker 3: but I would have thought that most people like me

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Speaker 3: would understand this is where it's going and this is

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Speaker 3: probably not a bad thing.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, it's certainly about not being concerned about the public

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Speaker 24: reaction either. People have changed the way that they communicate.

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Speaker 24: You know, back in twenty thirteen, I think we delivered

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Speaker 24: six hundred and fifty million letter items. It's like six

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Speaker 24: or seven items per household per week. We're down to

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Speaker 24: one or two New Zealanders are changing the way they

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00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 24: want to receive information. But we will respond to whatever

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00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 24: is available to us. And I think you're right. Most

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00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 24: people see what comes through their mailboxes every day and

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00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 24: they are just accordingly. So that's our job and we'll

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Speaker 24: continue doing it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you do a great job. Thank you, David appreciated.

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Speaker 3: David Walsh, CEO of New Zealand Post heather Moon rise

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Speaker 3: Today is seven thirty seven this evening in the east.

1113
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Speaker 3: So when I said look at the sun, what you

1114
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,479
Speaker 3: want to do is turn around look the opposite way

1115
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 3: if you don't mind. Twenty away from six.

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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty. Find your

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00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: one of a kind on.

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Speaker 3: The Huddle of us this evening we have Rus Williamson

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00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 3: Auckland Councilor and Craig Rennie Ctut for Economistello you two,

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Speaker 3: good evening, fair enough, fair enough on the post a Morris, Oh.

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00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 9: Yeah, look the world's changed. I mean, who's still got

1122
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 9: a checkbook? Who's still got a landline? And post is

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00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 9: something that had its day and was incredibly useful and

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00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 9: everyone relied on the post. But I don't know whether

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Speaker 9: I've ever last.

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00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:25,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you think, Craig?

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00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 25: I think you're absolutely read. The poster is declining, physical

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Speaker 25: posters declining, but parcels are going up. We are sending

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00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 25: more parcels as more Internet shopping than it's ever happening before.

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Speaker 25: The key thing is how do we protect the workforce

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00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 25: because the post has been getting rid of postal workers

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Speaker 25: and in recruiting a lot more couriers who don't have

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Speaker 25: the same protections as the postal workers had. So it's

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Speaker 25: about making sure that we don't you know, a union, Craig,

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00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 25: it is indeed a union thing by bunds, and the

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Speaker 25: cost of that change on those workers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how long Morris, if you could take a punt,

1138
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 3: how long do you reckon it is before we finally

1139
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 3: get rid of postal days like delivery days all together,

1140
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 3: and we're just required to go and pick up whatever

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00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 3: mail we have every few months at a central location.

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Speaker 9: Well, I'm trying to think of whether there's any mail

1143
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 9: you need any more any rate. I mean, every one

1144
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 9: of our bills comes via internet. I've watched my wife

1145
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 9: go back to the to the letter box, pull the

1146
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 9: stuff out, walks over the yellow lidan and trow throw.

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00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 3: I mean, I think, Morris, you need to get your

1148
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 3: regio in the mail, but that can come via courier.

1149
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 3: Like everything that you really need in the mail, you

1150
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 3: just career it.

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Speaker 9: Yes, well, I think that may change to and be

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00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 9: actually be electronic. They're doing a whole lot of stuff

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00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 9: with new warrants and even the digital license. Yeah. Look,

1154
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 9: I just think you've got to accept that things have changed,

1155
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 9: and you imagine trying to tell people thirty years ago

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Speaker 9: to go without a checkbook.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: True, that's a very good point, Craig. How do you

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00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 3: feel about the protesters outside Winston's house? Do they need

1160
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 3: to call us off?

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Speaker 25: I really think they do. I'm a fully paired up

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00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 25: member of the Union for Politics and advisors and people

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Speaker 25: who work in Parliament. You can't protest that, say, people's

1164
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 25: homes this way. It's not the right thing to do.

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Speaker 25: It doesn't help the campaigns. I personally don't support this.

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Speaker 3: What about you, Morris?

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Speaker 9: Oh, it's an outrage, absolutely outrage. I don't think Winston

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Speaker 9: would have even been there because it was a cabinet day,

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Speaker 9: so his wife Jan who's just a lovely lady, she

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00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 9: would have been intimidated by a group of people out there.

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00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 9: They had a loud hailo blearing away and so on,

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Speaker 9: and I thought they went till some hour in the night,

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00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 9: which is it's just disgraceful. You want to go to approach,

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00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 9: go down to Victoria Park do your protest. You know,

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00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 9: what do you ever stand on the side of the

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Speaker 9: main road do it. I'm not going to try and

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Speaker 9: restrict anyone's right to protest, but doing outside of any

1178
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Speaker 9: politicians home is just wrong.

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Speaker 3: Craig, do you think the Labor Party is going to

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Speaker 3: support that legislation that makes this kind of thing unlawful?

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Speaker 25: No, because it's badly written, because it doesn't set out

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Speaker 25: what is a protected area. So there's the Kent Shepherd

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00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 25: Departments directly across the road from Parliament, which have as

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Speaker 25: some of their tenants and honors a number of politicians

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Speaker 25: that would then make any protest at Parliament illegal. And

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Speaker 25: it's it's as it's written, it doesn't work.

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Speaker 3: So would would the Labor Party create help in the

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Speaker 3: submissions process which is what we're going through at the moment,

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Speaker 3: and actually rewrite it so it is workable?

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Speaker 25: Well, I would. You'd have to ask the Ever Party enough.

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Speaker 25: My guess is that there will, But as it's currently

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Speaker 25: written it doesn't work.

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Speaker 9: What do you think, Marris, Well, if there's got some

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00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 9: problems in the in the fine detail, that can be

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00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 9: tiied up through select committee process and so on. But

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Speaker 9: I think the straight principle of it is, you know,

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Speaker 9: take me on when you want to do in public meetings,

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Speaker 9: take me on and public things at the Ata Square

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Speaker 9: or Victoria Park, but you just stay away from my home. Hither.

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Speaker 9: I was one of those INPCE who was threatened to

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Speaker 9: have my house and my family blown up. And after

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00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 9: a big investigation, the police caught the guy in Avondale.

1203
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 9: He had detonators dynamite in the lot and went to court.

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Speaker 9: He got five I got seven years jail in the end,

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00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 9: and my family were living on the edge because of that,

1206
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 9: because we first of all thought it was a pranky

1207
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 9: left voicemail message on the tape. Fortunately we kept the

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Speaker 9: tape and played it back and the police followed through

1209
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 9: and finally caught. And it's just wrong. If you disagree

1210
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 9: with me, fine and tell me I'm wrong and you

1211
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 9: disagree with but threatening that sort of stuff or just

1212
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 9: intimidation is just there's no room for it, no room

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00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 9: for it.

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Speaker 3: It's totally looney behavior. All right, you guys will take

1215
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 3: a break, come back. I want to talk about what

1216
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,959
Speaker 3: we're going to do about all these elections and local

1217
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 3: body politicians. We don't want Quarter two.

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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty the global

1219
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 1: leader in luxury real estate.

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Speaker 3: Right on the huddle we have Craig Rennie and Morris Williamson. Craig,

1221
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 3: when you are the Minister of Finance, will you scrap

1222
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 3: all of the local board politicians and the local body

1223
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 3: politicians we have and just go to a manageable number.

1224
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 25: In that fantastically hypothetical universe at now.

1225
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 3: Oh well, no, you don't have my vote, Bake, You've

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00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 3: just Why wouldn't you say yes just for the pular vote.

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00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 25: No, local democracy is really important and local representation is

1228
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 25: really important.

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Speaker 3: We've got too many, though, Morris, haven't We.

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00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 9: We got far too many. Auckland Council has way more

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00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 9: members elected than Parliament.

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00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 3: Count them up.

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00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 9: I think there's one hundred and seventy two for Auckland. Yes,

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00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 9: but there's more because we've got quite a big stack

1235
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:25,439
Speaker 9: of people who come from the independent MARI Statutory Board

1236
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 9: who get votes on the committees, so you can add

1237
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 9: all of them. I think there's a dozen or so

1238
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 9: of them as well, So you're one hundred and eighty

1239
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 9: four or whatever, and there's what one twenty members of Parliament.

1240
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 9: So for a city, we've got way more elected than

1241
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 9: the country.

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00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 3: You're not even to counter that. You're not even counting

1243
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 3: the licensing trust. Yes, carry on, please.

1244
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 9: No, no, no. What happened is that this would propose

1245
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 9: some increases during the process last year, and I just

1246
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,439
Speaker 9: was so objecting in my how it board out here

1247
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 9: we had nine local board members. The proposals will go

1248
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 9: to eleven. I voted against it. I voted against it,

1249
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 9: and I was one of about three and the whole

1250
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 9: the rest of the council voted to increase the number

1251
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 9: of people in our local board to have eleven local

1252
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 9: board members rather than nine. I just think it's insane

1253
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Speaker 9: and most people don't know their names to start with.

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Speaker 3: Craig, do you change your mind yet?

1255
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 5: No?

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01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 3: Come on, come on, how can you it's okay to

1257
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 3: have more people running Auckland than there is running the country.

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01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 25: Well I didn't I say that you can. You can

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01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 25: have as many. You can have an argument about whether

1260
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 25: or not there should be more or less, But to

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01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 25: not have them there's a different argument.

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Speaker 9: Oh no, no, it was reducing, not getting rid of them.

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01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, don't get rid of them all together.

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Speaker 3: But you don't need that many. I mean, for example,

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01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 3: look at this Craig Okay, So Kaikoda District has got

1266
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 3: eight elected members for four thy four hundred people, which

1267
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 3: means they've got one person for every five hundred and fifty.

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01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 3: That's silly.

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Speaker 25: That does seem to be quite a lot of counselors,

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Speaker 25: to be. I don't think a brook much argument from

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Speaker 25: me there to be.

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Speaker 3: I don't need to go through the example of Southland

1273
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 3: then we I.

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Speaker 25: Think, I think in terms of, you know, we undervalue

1275
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 25: local government and we get the local government that we

1276
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 25: get because we undervalue, you know, the expertise and the

1277
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 25: people that we should be looking to get onto these committees.

1278
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 25: And you know that possibly means giving them more power,

1279
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 25: but that probably means having fewer often.

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01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I suspect it.

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01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 9: Can I quickly can ie that two of your stories

1282
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 9: together postal.

1283
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Speaker 3: And local gostally connectors go.

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01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 9: It is absolutely insane that we vote using postal voting anymore.

1285
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 9: Most people get it from their letter box and they

1286
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 9: go straight on the rubbish bin. Most people have put

1287
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 9: them on the fridge and never see them again. And

1288
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 9: the participation rate right now, do you know how many

1289
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 9: people who voted in an organ and your chances of

1290
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 9: seeing it by mail closed off yesterday. Right now, seventeen

1291
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 9: percent of all voters have voted. Seventeen percent, So that

1292
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 9: just makes a mockery of the system. We've got to

1293
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 9: go to either a technology based and give you a

1294
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 9: you know, a secure code that you can use, or

1295
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 9: we've got to go back to go to a place

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Speaker 9: like you do for central government and go and vote there.

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Speaker 9: But postal voting is insane and that's so out of date.

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Speaker 9: And the fact that New Zealand posts have closed down

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Speaker 9: the whole lot of their operation today makes it even

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Speaker 9: more outrageous.

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Speaker 3: Craig, have we convinced you, I mean, at the very

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Speaker 3: least like it does need massive reform, doesn't it.

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Speaker 25: Craig, Oh, local government absolutely needs as performance government got there,

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Speaker 25: we got, I reckon, but local government financing particular, that

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Speaker 25: needs huge reform. Massive governments of being asked up, local

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Speaker 25: governments of being asked to do things that they simply

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Speaker 25: do not have the financial tools to do.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Craig, have you voted, I have voted. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: good and you Morris.

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Speaker 9: Oh, absolutely yes. I voted for a fantastic candidate. I

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Speaker 9: know him well.

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Speaker 3: Oh is it is it that that Williamson chap.

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Speaker 9: That's the Williams.

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Speaker 3: He's not bad.

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Speaker 9: Not went to school together.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got a text here. Morris Williamson makes so

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Speaker 3: much sense ex Matematic college champions. So I feel like

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Speaker 3: you're getting some votes anyway. Lads listens, good to talk

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Speaker 3: to you. Thank you very much, and I'm that we've

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Speaker 3: already set up the future Minister of Finance to do

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Speaker 3: our dirty work for us. Morris Williamson and Craig Rennie

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Speaker 3: our huddle this evening, eight away from six.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on my Art Radio, powered by News Talks.

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Speaker 9: It'd be.

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Speaker 3: The German has asked me to remind you that just

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Speaker 3: because you can't send you because this is so she's

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Speaker 3: so civically minded, you know how, like Europeans are into

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Speaker 3: this kind of stuff. So she wants you to know

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Speaker 3: that just because you can't send it in via letter,

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Speaker 3: via the post, you can still go in person and vote.

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Speaker 3: So you have until twelve noon on Saturday, and you

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Speaker 3: could go down to your supermarket or your train station

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Speaker 3: or your library or your bus station or whatever and

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Speaker 3: you could go and post. And please do do post

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Speaker 3: otherwise because these guys are in control of so much

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Speaker 3: of what goes on in our lives. You know, when

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Speaker 3: you know, when you drive down the street and you're like,

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Speaker 3: why are these idiot why have they changed the road layout?

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Speaker 3: That's your council. You know, when you're like, why have

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Speaker 3: they changed my bend to every fortnite? That's your counsel. Right,

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Speaker 3: So this is stuff that like totally affects your li

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Speaker 3: So please go and vote because otherwise you're gonna end

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Speaker 3: up with a bunch of numpties. Like look, imagine if

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Speaker 3: you ended up with Tory Farno running your city, right,

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Speaker 3: that would be your fault because you didn't vote. So

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Speaker 3: you have until twelve noon, and I'm sure you can

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Speaker 3: google it and find this stuff. Now, do you remember

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Speaker 3: the class action? We've talked about it a lot on

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Speaker 3: the show. Remember the class action that New Zealanders are

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Speaker 3: taking against the big Assie Banks. Well asb has just

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Speaker 3: settled this to the tune of one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 3: five million dollars. It's huge. We're going to talk to

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Speaker 3: the lawyer after six right now, it's five away from.

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Speaker 2: Six Heaver due for Ellen.

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Speaker 3: Hey, listen to that. This is quite funny. Okay, I

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Speaker 3: think that we have. I think possibly one News has

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Speaker 3: taken the trigger warning too far.

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Speaker 26: Okay, man, welcome back, Red Meat Processor Alliance Groups warning

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Speaker 26: shareholders the cooperative risks financial collapse.

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Speaker 3: Now just a warning.

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Speaker 26: This story includes footage of meat processing, so we.

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Speaker 3: Were like, what were they doing? How gnarly was this?

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Speaker 3: Like is this like meat processing with somebody's come with

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Speaker 3: a chainsaw and it's like us carcass hanging there and

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Speaker 3: it's like splattering. No, there's no splatters on the camera.

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Speaker 3: There's no like knit heads being chopped off and all

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Speaker 3: like anything. It's just a pig carcass being cut. Guys,

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Speaker 3: come on, is that really? Like, are we at the

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Speaker 3: point now where that we need to be trigger warned

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Speaker 3: because there's gonna be some meat on tally? Surely not

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Speaker 3: like some words to TV and Z. They're not listening

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Speaker 3: because they're busy putting their the busy writing their trigger

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Speaker 3: warning four six o'clock right now for god knows what

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Speaker 3: fruit and vegetables they're gonna put on television. But words

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Speaker 3: to TV and Z, you need to get out of

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Speaker 3: town a bit more because that's just normal. Now. Also, well,

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Speaker 3: quickly before we go talk about serious banking stuff. Did

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Speaker 3: you know that police dog's teeth are reinforced with metal

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Speaker 3: I didn't know this until and this is because they

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Speaker 3: but it's basically to allow them to tug and pull

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Speaker 3: without her like really get that tooth into the bad

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Speaker 3: guy and like pull at it without hurting themselves. I

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Speaker 3: didn't know this. But then the other day there was

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Speaker 3: a court case that was reported and involved a guy

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Speaker 3: who had been running away from a police dog. Police

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Speaker 3: dog caught up with him. Is a bad guy, and

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Speaker 3: he hit the police dog with quite a big torch

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Speaker 3: and it tore out one of the dog's teeth, and

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Speaker 3: the police said in court it must have been one

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Speaker 3: hell of a blow because the teeth of police dogs

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Speaker 3: were regularly reinforced with a metal alloy reinforcement. So anyway,

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Speaker 3: word to the wise is, yeah, they are like robodogs.

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Speaker 3: Don't try not to take them on if you can. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: the lawyer is with us.

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Speaker 1: Next quods up, bod's down? What with a major cause

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Speaker 1: and how will it affect the economy? The Big Business

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Speaker 1: Questions on the Business Hour with.

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Speaker 2: Heather Duplessy, Allen and Mass for.

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Speaker 1: Insurance Investments and Kueiy Saber you're in good hands, News.

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Speaker 2: Dog said be.

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Speaker 3: Even in coming up in the next hour. Former All

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Speaker 3: Black Millsmoory Aena has been hired by the Auckland Business

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Speaker 3: Chamber to help with the Pacific economy. He's with us.

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Speaker 3: After half past Hamish MacKaye on what the hold ups

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Speaker 3: with the India FDA are and we have Indebrady out

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Speaker 3: of the UK as well. Seven past six. ASB has

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Speaker 3: agreed to pay more than one hundred and thirty five

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Speaker 3: million dollars to settle a class action lawsuit. Now, this

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Speaker 3: is the legal action representing about one hundred and seventy

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Speaker 3: thousand kiwis which has been taken against ASB and A

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Speaker 3: and Z who've been accused of breaching responsible lending rules.

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Speaker 3: Scott Russell is the lawyer representing bank customers in the

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Speaker 3: class action and is with us. Hey, Scott, why do

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Speaker 3: you think ASB has agreed to settle?

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Speaker 9: Oh?

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Speaker 27: Look, it's a commercial resolution that concludes over four years

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Speaker 27: of litigation and really provides certainty for both parties.

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Speaker 3: How many customers of ASB have you got here?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 27: The action is an opt out action, which is, as

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Speaker 27: you probably know, a type of lawsuit where all individuals

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Speaker 27: who meet the criteria are automatically included as part of

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Speaker 27: the class. So it's actually going to be a matter

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Speaker 27: for courts to determine and approve in the coming weeks

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Speaker 27: what the number is.

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Speaker 3: Ah, okay, so you can't look at one thirty five

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Speaker 3: mil and then say, divided by x number customers, they

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Speaker 3: will get so much. We don't know any of that yet.

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Speaker 27: I can't that at that stage, this stage, know that

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Speaker 27: it'll be determined by the court in the coming weeks.

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Speaker 3: Why is A and Z not doing the same.

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Speaker 27: Well, that's a good question, and that's something we'll certainly

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Speaker 27: be reaching out and asking A and Z. But we

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Speaker 27: remain fully committed to our claim against A and Z,

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Speaker 27: continue to fight that. But A and Z customers deserve

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Speaker 27: a positive outcome here similar to that which has been

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Speaker 27: achieved for ASB Scott.

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Speaker 3: The Government cannot surely continue with its law change, can

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Speaker 3: it now that ASB has settled?

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Speaker 27: Well, The Sect Committee's due to report back to Parliament

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Speaker 27: on the twentieth of October, and am Z is now

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Speaker 27: the only known lender facing active litigation that would benefit

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Speaker 27: from this proposed respective law change. So it would be

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Speaker 27: very unclear why the government would intervene, reach back and

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Speaker 27: change the law to protect one large Australian owned bank.

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Speaker 3: I mean, particularly when you think that ASB has said, yep,

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Speaker 3: we have to sett all this, we have to settle this.

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Speaker 3: A and Z is there. So if the bank, sorry,

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Speaker 3: if the government was to change the law, they would

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Speaker 3: be looking at and still still making the argument that

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Speaker 3: A and Z alone has to be protected. That's essentially

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Speaker 3: the nut of it, isn't it.

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Speaker 27: Yeah, that's right. I mean the sentiment is still subject

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Speaker 27: to ort approval and it's made with no missions of

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Speaker 27: liability on the part of ASB. But yeah, subject to that.

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Speaker 3: You're correct, all right, Scott, Thanks very much, Scott Russell,

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Speaker 3: lawyer representing bank customers in the class action. None of

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Speaker 3: it or nub of it your choice now. ASB says

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Speaker 3: it has made no admission of liability or wrongdoing. Its

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Speaker 3: chief executive says the settlement provides certainty for the bank

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Speaker 3: and its customers. A and Z has sent us a

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Speaker 3: statement they say asb's decision to settle as a commercial

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Speaker 3: decision for them. A and Z New Zealand will continue

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Speaker 3: to defend its case. Our position hasn't changed. The potential

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Speaker 3: consequences under the current law are disproportionate, not aligned with

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Speaker 3: any actual harm caused in the risk posed by the

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Speaker 3: wording of the current legislation has been widely discussed from

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Speaker 3: a political perspective. I am fascinated and how Scott Simpson

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Speaker 3: is going to defend his position in changing the law retrospectively,

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Speaker 3: which is quite a wild thing to do. It doesn't

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Speaker 3: get done very often. How he can persist in doing

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Speaker 3: that for one Australian bank six to eleven.

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Speaker 2: Ever, due for see Ellen's Lord.

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Speaker 3: Twenty third of October is becoming quite the day. Senior

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Speaker 3: doctors and dentists have now confirmed that they are also

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Speaker 3: joining that big strike that's going to be happening on

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Speaker 3: twenty third October. So what this means is, on that

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Speaker 3: day you've got more than thirty six thousand nurses walking

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Speaker 3: off the job. You've got forty thousand teachers walking off

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Speaker 3: the job. You've got corrections nurses and health assistants, a

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Speaker 3: bunch of smaller other smaller work groups who are represented

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Speaker 3: by the PSA, and now you've got four thousand senior

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Speaker 3: doctors and dentists. So it's going to be a real

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Speaker 3: fun day. Six eleven.

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Speaker 1: It's the header Duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on my Heart Radio empowered by news dog Zebbie.

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Speaker 3: Listen. Tomorrow, of course is the OCR announcement. We just

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Speaker 3: had the last piece of data that the Reserve Bank

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Speaker 3: will be looking at before they settle down and make

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Speaker 3: that decision tomorrow, which is the business confidence. The ends

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Speaker 3: at IA's quarterly survey of Business Opinion. So there's a

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Speaker 3: drop in business confidence which has come through today A

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Speaker 3: net fifteen percent of firms expect the economy to get

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Speaker 3: better in the coming months. But while that looks okay,

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Speaker 3: actually just I think was a quarter ago it was

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Speaker 3: about twenty six percent, So it's stropped from twenty six

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Speaker 3: percent who thought the economy was going to get better

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Speaker 3: down to fifteen percent who thought the economy was going

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Speaker 3: to get better. And net fourteen percent of firms have

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Speaker 3: reported a decline in activity in their own business in

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Speaker 3: the September quarter. Nine percent of firms net nine percent

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Speaker 3: of firms expect improved demand in the next quarter. Firms

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Speaker 3: hiring and investment intentions have also reduced. So it's the

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Speaker 3: last piece of the puzzle and they can make their decision.

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Speaker 3: It's called a past.

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Speaker 2: The Rural Report on Heather Do for Ce Allen.

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Speaker 3: Drive, Amous mckaye hosting the Country while Jamie McKay is

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Speaker 3: away is with us.

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Speaker 22: Hello Hamish Heather, Hello, and how can I start really

1511
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 22: enjoying Julian Jamie you start on holiday for a bit longer.

1512
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 3: You're doing a fantastic job. So you know he should

1513
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 3: come back.

1514
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 22: Yeah, thank you. Well he does say don't do too well.

1515
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:25,679
Speaker 22: He's honest, James.

1516
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 3: That's what I mean.

1517
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 22: Go well, hamous, but don't go too well. So thank

1518
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 22: you for that. I'll keep I'll keep trying to sort

1519
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 22: of raise the bar.

1520
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 3: I feel like we need to find some space for

1521
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,040
Speaker 3: you on our show on the regular. So just just

1522
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 3: we'll just confer. Just you leave there with us and

1523
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 3: we'll find a place in your hamous.

1524
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 9: I'll stop talking.

1525
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 3: Love it but a dirty talk on the radio. We

1526
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 3: are enjoying it very much. Now listen on the onto

1527
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:48,640
Speaker 3: the Senior serious stuff. You had the trade minister on

1528
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 3: the show today. What are the hold ups in the

1529
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 3: trade deal with with India?

1530
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:55,839
Speaker 22: Well, yeah, that that is the well hopefully the billion

1531
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 22: dollar plus question. So he's had the third meeting, right,

1532
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:01,759
Speaker 22: he is confident on the radio today on the Country,

1533
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 22: saying that the fourth round of meetings will be the

1534
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 22: knockout punch and that will come. He believes that mister

1535
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 22: Moody and everybody that's you know who ultimately will sign

1536
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:15,680
Speaker 22: office at the table. We know what a behemoth it is.

1537
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 22: We just got to go, you know, right now we're

1538
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 22: exporting to them about you know, there's individuals with net

1539
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 22: worth much more than we export to India, which is

1540
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 22: kind of a you know, a pee in the ocean.

1541
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 22: Really we need to be you know, we need to

1542
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 22: we need to be in there.

1543
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 4: They're huge.

1544
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 22: So hopefully we can start to you know, next time around.

1545
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 22: His promised by I think by February March next year,

1546
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 22: we should have free trade TARA free agreement to get

1547
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 22: our land into into India. Would yeah, well, I think

1548
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 22: that's I'm sort of allowing for the sort of the

1549
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 22: sort of sign off period. I mean, I'm just trying

1550
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 22: to I'm trying to be super friendly here.

1551
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 3: It's not bad though, I mean Hamish we were talking about,

1552
01:13:57,320 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 3: I mean, I think everybody sort of had a bit

1553
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 3: of a snigger when they said they'd be able to

1554
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 3: do it in their first term. They'd be remarkable.

1555
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 9: Yeah, well yeah it would be, it would be.

1556
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:09,640
Speaker 22: But we need it. We need it, you know, I do.

1557
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 22: Just worrying me though, what it might do for the

1558
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:14,680
Speaker 22: local home consumer, who know the old day yard of

1559
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 22: the supermarket, a thirty dollars leg of lamb and whacking

1560
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:21,679
Speaker 22: it in the freezer and when the kids are home

1561
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:24,480
Speaker 22: from unions. I think that's gone unfortunately.

1562
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:29,599
Speaker 3: But yeap, what are you doing with your phone? Hamish?

1563
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:31,639
Speaker 3: Can Hamosh, we can't hear you. Can you just pull

1564
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:33,680
Speaker 3: your phone away from your face and look if the

1565
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:35,599
Speaker 3: mute buttons being pressed by your cheek? Please?

1566
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 22: Oh?

1567
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 3: Is that better? Did you do that better?

1568
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 12: Now?

1569
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1570
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 3: I can hear you.

1571
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 9: Now that was really well, well, I'm just getting carried away.

1572
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 3: I think I'm going to withdraw my invitation to come

1573
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 3: on the show now. Ha mus listen, talk to me

1574
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 3: about Beef and Lamb trying to get the farmers to

1575
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 3: use AI. What do they what do they expect the

1576
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 3: farmers to use AI for?

1577
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 22: So this thing that they've got is called asked Bella.

1578
01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 22: Bella's obviously you know, she is the thing you need

1579
01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 22: to get online with Beef and Lamb. It's the AI assistant.

1580
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 22: So you've got. You know how when you go in

1581
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 22: there and you search up and you get them, you

1582
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 22: get all the information, but you don't get the answers. Well,

1583
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 22: you know, Bella, Bella, I've got these fly struck lambs.

1584
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 9: What should I do?

1585
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 22: You should get the shares out and then apply X,

1586
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:24,640
Speaker 22: Y Z. It gives you the answers. Bello goes for

1587
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 22: the answers. So it's like having millions and millions of encyclopedia,

1588
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 22: you know, all that knowledge that probably exists in the

1589
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 22: Lincoln University College Library, but the answers come to you.

1590
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 22: So it's just good practical information when it is the

1591
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 22: best time to spray my Scotch thistles. You know, I mean,

1592
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:44,600
Speaker 22: I'm trying to sound like Bella, but you know what

1593
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 22: I mean. It seems like an incredibly practical tool to

1594
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 22: me and sensible. You know. It's you know, I think

1595
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:53,720
Speaker 22: it's I think it's a great thing that Beef and

1596
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:54,519
Speaker 22: Lamb have come up with.

1597
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 9: Here the old ask Bella.

1598
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, why not hams that they tell me Actually that

1599
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 3: you were on the Sports had on Friday when I

1600
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:04,719
Speaker 3: was away, So you've already started to the connection between

1601
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 3: ourselves and you was already started.

1602
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 22: The infiltration has begun.

1603
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 7: Love it?

1604
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hamish, thanks so much, look after yourself. Good luck

1605
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 3: making your phone work for you. That's Hamish mackay hosting

1606
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 3: the country while Jamie's away. Actually on what Hamish was

1607
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 3: talking about the next step with AI, because of course

1608
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:22,599
Speaker 3: you can ask AI already right with the large language

1609
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 3: model programs and stuff. You type all your questions in

1610
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 3: a whether it's Bala or olive with Willworth whatever they can.

1611
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 3: You can interact like that. But the next step seems

1612
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 3: to me that we need to be able to actually

1613
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 3: talk to AI in the way that you talk to Siri.

1614
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 3: Have you not? Have you thought this? Because look what

1615
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 3: happened was I was sitting in the spa last night.

1616
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 3: What a way to start a story. I was sitting

1617
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:46,600
Speaker 3: in the spar last night, and I don't have my

1618
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:48,639
Speaker 3: phone in the spa because I think it's very healthy

1619
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 3: to have time away from your phone. And so I

1620
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 3: thought to myself, I thought, oh, Jason's coming to see

1621
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 3: us this weekend. I know the kids will want to

1622
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:58,080
Speaker 3: get in the spa. I wonder what the weather's going

1623
01:16:58,120 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 3: to be like. And I thought at that point, wouldn't

1624
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:03,360
Speaker 3: be nice to just be able to say to AI, Hey,

1625
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:05,600
Speaker 3: whatever you've called your AI. In my case, obviously it

1626
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 3: would be Barry, So hey, Barry, what's the weather forecast

1627
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 3: for Saturday? And then the AI can just tell you

1628
01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:14,680
Speaker 3: and then you can put that one to bed and

1629
01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:16,760
Speaker 3: never mind, and that that's it done, right? Don't you

1630
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:18,680
Speaker 3: don't carry the mental load of having to remember, Oh,

1631
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 3: when I get out of the spar I've got to

1632
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:21,599
Speaker 3: go find my phone it because I forgot by the way.

1633
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 3: So now I've got a back in my brain. I've

1634
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 3: got to do the thing anyway. That is where AI

1635
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 3: has got to go. But the question, of course, is

1636
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:29,240
Speaker 3: then how do you get AI to have, like how

1637
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:31,519
Speaker 3: do you integrate it in your life so that it's

1638
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:33,720
Speaker 3: there prepared to answer your questions? Now I know that

1639
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 3: Jason Paris from One New Zealand, who was like nutty

1640
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 3: about AI, does drive with some sort of like hands

1641
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 3: free thing where he talks to his AI. Most of

1642
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 3: us can't, though, So what do you do do you?

1643
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 3: Is it a pin that sits on your lapel and

1644
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 3: you press the pin and you go a AI? The

1645
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:53,680
Speaker 3: question or is it those stupid glasses that Zuckerberg was

1646
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 3: trying the other day where you know, you talk to

1647
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 3: your glasses while it's looking at the menu for you.

1648
01:17:57,640 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 3: That is the next place this has got to go,

1649
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 3: because this is the limitation of AI, isn't it that

1650
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:04,759
Speaker 3: it's really cool, but you've got to sit there typing

1651
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 3: into your keyboard and somehow you have to make it

1652
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 3: integrated in our lives. So it really just does all

1653
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 3: the cool stuff for us. Anyway, that's the thing to

1654
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 3: think about it. If you'll sit in there going, I'm

1655
01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 3: very good at computers, Well, then can you solve this

1656
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 3: problem for us? Please? Six twenty one.

1657
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:22,560
Speaker 1: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

1658
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 1: The business hour where the head duplic Ellen and maz

1659
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 1: for insurance investments and Huey Safer and you're in good

1660
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 1: hands News Talks.

1661
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 3: B hither you can already have a full conversation with AI.

1662
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 3: Come on, says Juan. Mine is called Pete and it's

1663
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 3: totally interactive. On Juan, you're gonna have to send me

1664
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 3: more information. Can you just help me with my life

1665
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 3: and just send me how to do that? Thanks very much, Marori.

1666
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 3: Party drama, There is more internal drama. Mikey Schuman over

1667
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 3: at TV's that has done an interview with Maria Mano

1668
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:53,680
Speaker 3: Kappakini from the Mary Party. Now remember she's the MP

1669
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 3: who was the whip and they've taken the roll away

1670
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 3: from her. This is an exclusive interview. She sat down

1671
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:02,720
Speaker 3: with nobody else. Her son Eru Kapa King, who's the

1672
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 3: guy who's been running the protest, has said that the

1673
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:07,680
Speaker 3: Maori Party is dictatorial and a toxic environment. So she

1674
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 3: was asked that she agreed with that.

1675
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 5: There is it's time for change, is what I see, Mikey,

1676
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:16,240
Speaker 5: I think, and change is good for us.

1677
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 3: Now it's a bit of trouble for money. I'm in

1678
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 3: or here because there have been reports floating around today

1679
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:24,880
Speaker 3: on social media that she actually overspent on her parliamentary

1680
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 3: budget by about two hundred thousand dollars. Did you overspend

1681
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 3: on your budget this year?

1682
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:33,599
Speaker 5: There was an adjustment that I had to make and

1683
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 5: I did that with the full in line with budget

1684
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 5: rules spoken and with the Speaker's directions and with the speaker.

1685
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 3: But then she refused to say what that money was

1686
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 3: spent on.

1687
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:50,559
Speaker 5: You know, this privacy issues here.

1688
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 3: Her son Eru KAPPAKINGI and by the way, allegations about

1689
01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:57,920
Speaker 3: what that money has been spent on have also been

1690
01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 3: floating around on social media. Today. Son Edu Kappakingi has

1691
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 3: suggested the Maori party itself actually leaked his mother's their

1692
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:06,560
Speaker 3: own MP's budget details.

1693
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:11,520
Speaker 5: From what I can see, there's no other way that

1694
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 5: there would have been any attention to my budget or

1695
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:18,680
Speaker 5: anything about my spend, so I don't I don't know

1696
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:21,720
Speaker 5: where else that information could have come.

1697
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:24,640
Speaker 3: Friendly fire basically, And then of course John Palmerhead was

1698
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 3: door stopped and asked about it.

1699
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:27,880
Speaker 12: Look, the truth will come out in the full of

1700
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 12: the time.

1701
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:30,760
Speaker 24: Is that why she was simotion The truth will come

1702
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:31,679
Speaker 24: out the full of the time.

1703
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:33,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll keep an eye on this because this is

1704
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 3: getting This is getting quite interesting, isn't it. Six twenty six.

1705
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:43,479
Speaker 1: There's no business like show business.

1706
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:47,920
Speaker 3: Do you remember when Sabrina Carpenter released her album cover

1707
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 3: and the internet went wild because the picture on the

1708
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:52,000
Speaker 3: cover was her on her hands and knees with a

1709
01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:55,599
Speaker 3: man holding her hair like he's being treated, treating her

1710
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 3: like a dog. People call it tasteless, unfeminist. Everything under

1711
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:02,880
Speaker 3: the sun is how Sabrina responded to that, y'all need.

1712
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 21: To get out more.

1713
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:08,240
Speaker 7: I think I was actually shocked because I think between

1714
01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:09,880
Speaker 7: me and my friends and my family and the people

1715
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:12,519
Speaker 7: that I always share my music and my artwork. First

1716
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 7: it just wasn't even a conversation.

1717
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 12: It was just like it's perfect.

1718
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 3: Now here's where it gets really interesting is she might

1719
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 3: actually win a Grammy for this Because of a category change,

1720
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 3: the Grammy's are reinstating an old category that hasn't been

1721
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 3: around since nineteen seventy three, Best Album Cover. Best Album

1722
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:30,599
Speaker 3: Cover Grammy will return next year. She's the front runner

1723
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:33,719
Speaker 3: to get the nomination. Also rumored to get a Knob

1724
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 3: is Perfumed, Genius, Deftones, Lincoln Park, and Lady Gaga's new

1725
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:40,720
Speaker 3: album Mayhem. The Hollywood Reporter has compiled a list of

1726
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 3: albums that came out after the category was retired that

1727
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 3: should have won the award. They reckoned Duran Durand's Rio

1728
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:49,439
Speaker 3: from eighty two to one, Pink Floyd's iconic Dark Side

1729
01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:52,480
Speaker 3: of the Moon, and last year's Brat by Charlie XCX,

1730
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:55,479
Speaker 3: which turned into a cultural moment that everyone wanted to

1731
01:21:55,560 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 3: identify with. And that interesting. Hey, Mells, you know it's

1732
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 3: supposed to be controversial album covers, aren't they anyway? Mills

1733
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:06,760
Speaker 3: mully Allina is with us straight after the news news storks.

1734
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 1: By crunching the numbers and getting the results. It's hither

1735
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:24,840
Speaker 1: Dupi c Allen with the Business Hour and MAS for insurance.

1736
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 2: Investments and Kiwi Saber. You're in good hands news talks.

1737
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:29,640
Speaker 8: That'd be thank you.

1738
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:34,640
Speaker 3: Weenka one has text me back on the AI, so

1739
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:36,160
Speaker 3: I'm going to get to that. Also, got to run

1740
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:38,839
Speaker 3: you through how we're going get the workers going, getting

1741
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 3: the workers back into the office. Got some numbers for you.

1742
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:43,679
Speaker 3: It's twenty five away from seven now form all blacks

1743
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 3: legend Mills mully Diana is now playing a different game,

1744
01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 3: which is business. He's just been hired by the Auckland

1745
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:51,720
Speaker 3: Business Chamber Board as the first PACIFICA director in there

1746
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:53,840
Speaker 3: one hundred and sixty nine year history. And he's with

1747
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:54,160
Speaker 3: us now.

1748
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:56,600
Speaker 8: Hoy mels hey here that how are you.

1749
01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 3: I'm very well, thank you, congrats on the role.

1750
01:22:59,200 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 8: Oh thank you verymma.

1751
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:03,200
Speaker 28: Yeah, it's come a bit of a surprise, but I've

1752
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 28: known for a wee while, so it's yeah, look for

1753
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 28: a set.

1754
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:07,519
Speaker 8: It's just it is.

1755
01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:10,719
Speaker 28: It's a significant opportunity for me. I suppose to provide

1756
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 28: a voice for the communities and especially the Pacific community,

1757
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:17,759
Speaker 28: and you know, on finance, insurance, and I suppose economic matters,

1758
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 28: so I'm pretty toughed.

1759
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 21: Yeah.

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01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:21,439
Speaker 3: I mean it might surprise a few people to hear

1761
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 3: that you've you've popped up in business, but you are

1762
01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:25,759
Speaker 3: you a mortgage advisor in real life?

1763
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, I am.

1764
01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:30,000
Speaker 28: I'm coming up eight years being a qualified financial advisor.

1765
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:32,640
Speaker 28: So you know, most people want to seen me on

1766
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:35,160
Speaker 28: the screens, probably thinking I'm just there has been an

1767
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:37,840
Speaker 28: X rugby player that's sort of bitching and maaning about

1768
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:40,799
Speaker 28: the about the orbeex But no, I've been in business.

1769
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:44,400
Speaker 28: I've got a small sum that i've that I started

1770
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:49,439
Speaker 28: in twenty nineteen, and we do mortgages, insurance essets in

1771
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 28: our investments. I'm almost qualified in the investment space. It's

1772
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:55,719
Speaker 28: just taking me a bit longer to do this last paper.

1773
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 3: Oh brilliant stuff. So what's your job here in terms

1774
01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 3: of the Pacific economy.

1775
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:04,640
Speaker 28: I just think it's just that it's just, you know,

1776
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 28: it's it's being that voice you know.

1777
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 8: What we what what treasuries sort.

1778
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 28: Of mention it's and it's it's it's awesome the fact

1779
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 28: that you know the largest population population is in Auckland

1780
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:19,160
Speaker 28: and the drivest majority of the Pacific activities, you know,

1781
01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:22,519
Speaker 28: where it's in business, social enterprise, employment, in an even

1782
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 28: you know, in formal volunteering, the volunteering sector.

1783
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:29,840
Speaker 8: So my my role really is to you know, be

1784
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 8: that voice.

1785
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 16: You know.

1786
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 28: Josury mentioned the fact that the Pacific communities contribute eight

1787
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 28: billion annually towards the economy, so that's pretty significant. And

1788
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:43,640
Speaker 28: being a voice on on and having a seat on

1789
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:46,599
Speaker 28: that chamber really just you know, working through that sort

1790
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:49,799
Speaker 28: of sort of stuff, and I suppose working through the challenges,

1791
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 28: but also you know, it is a very challenging time,

1792
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 28: but also you know, celebrating also the success that it.

1793
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 8: Brings with it.

1794
01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:59,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get the feeling that the pacifica economy, you know,

1795
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 3: maybe overlooked, like I suspect many people will not realize

1796
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:04,920
Speaker 3: how big it is and therefore it will not actually

1797
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 3: have been developed as much as we could.

1798
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 5: No.

1799
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:10,800
Speaker 28: I mean, and that's the thing that there's not a

1800
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:14,479
Speaker 28: lot has known about the Pacific business sector and more

1801
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 28: work does need to be to be done, not only

1802
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 28: just to celebrate it, but to bring awareness to it,

1803
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 28: you know, but you know, a comprehensive you know, collective

1804
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 28: sort of collect data on Pacific businesses and activities that

1805
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:30,160
Speaker 28: that needs to happen, and it hasn't.

1806
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:32,880
Speaker 8: And I suppose it's finding out.

1807
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 28: More and more about that and sort of how we

1808
01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 28: can sort of grow that in sort of some of

1809
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 28: the areas. I mean, we are resilient and that the

1810
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:42,320
Speaker 28: pacifica community is resilient, but they tend to also stay

1811
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 28: within themselves and not sort of you know, HiPE up

1812
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 28: the fact that they're doing really well.

1813
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:48,040
Speaker 8: You know what's not widely known.

1814
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 28: Is there's a high proportion of business business that are

1815
01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 28: owned by Pacific women.

1816
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:54,040
Speaker 8: And that's awesome.

1817
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 28: And even in sectors like you know, agriculture and also aquaculture,

1818
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:02,439
Speaker 28: you know, and that's that's something that's sort of unheard of,

1819
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:05,640
Speaker 28: but they don't celebrate it. They keep to themselves, you know,

1820
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:09,479
Speaker 28: small to medium enterprises with you know, wonder five sort

1821
01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 28: of staff and there's a lot of that going around. But

1822
01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 28: you know, eight billion a year that they contribute will

1823
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 28: Pacific people contribute to to the economy is it's quite significant.

1824
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:21,160
Speaker 8: It should be celebrated.

1825
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 3: Now, tell me what do you reckon is the best

1826
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 3: rate to lock in at the moment?

1827
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 8: Well, the ocr's out tomorrow.

1828
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:30,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty five or fifty.

1829
01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 28: I'm hoping it's I'm hoping it's well, it's everyone we're

1830
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:37,040
Speaker 28: hoping it's fifty. But another drop will be fantastic. One

1831
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:39,200
Speaker 28: thing we've got to consider as the bank's already have moved,

1832
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:41,760
Speaker 28: and sometimes when they move early, it gives them the

1833
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:44,679
Speaker 28: reason to say, hey, well we've already moved. But there's

1834
01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 28: no doubt there is a little bit of consumer confidence

1835
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:50,040
Speaker 28: now with the rates coming down, hopefully in another porstion.

1836
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 28: We've got to and you know, especially to the end

1837
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 28: of the year when people tend to spend a lot,

1838
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 28: you know, during that Christmas period. But I'm hoping for

1839
01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 28: a fifty, but I'll be more than happy for a

1840
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:02,759
Speaker 28: twenty five here.

1841
01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:04,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, what are you locking in? What do you reckon?

1842
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:04,639
Speaker 3: One year?

1843
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:10,160
Speaker 28: Well, mine's coming up, so I'll definitely be looking at

1844
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:11,800
Speaker 28: one year. I think it's four point four nine at

1845
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 28: the moment, and hopefully another drop, but there won't thing

1846
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:16,800
Speaker 28: that happens till hopefully next week.

1847
01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:18,640
Speaker 8: But the one year is looking pretty good.

1848
01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 28: Eighteen months as similar, and that's great. It's great for

1849
01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:25,519
Speaker 28: you know, it gives people a little bit of hope,

1850
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 28: but also, as I mentioned before, a little bit of

1851
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:30,560
Speaker 28: consumer confidence leading into the summer.

1852
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 3: Break good stuff bills. Thanks very much man, and good

1853
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:34,800
Speaker 3: luck with the Auckland Business Chamber. That's Mills, Millas and

1854
01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:40,320
Speaker 3: New pacifica director on the ABC. Isn't it nice? I

1855
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:42,640
Speaker 3: always love it when a rugby player turns out to

1856
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 3: be not only awesome at running and passing a ball,

1857
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:47,639
Speaker 3: which is like a thing to be awesome at obviously,

1858
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:50,920
Speaker 3: but also has brains. That's just fantastic. I love that.

1859
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:55,559
Speaker 3: Nineteen away from seven Heather Doopers the l Heather. It's

1860
01:27:55,600 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 3: one here from Progenic pro Jeannette Progenic. Oh lord, I've

1861
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:03,280
Speaker 3: totally stuffed it up in ni Juan Progenic dot co

1862
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 3: dot and said, if you have chat gpt pro, then

1863
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 3: what you want to do is press the icon to

1864
01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:09,000
Speaker 3: the left of the microphone button. Then you will have

1865
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:11,559
Speaker 3: a live AI and I talk to Pete et cetera,

1866
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 3: et cetera. Anyway, Look, I take that because this is

1867
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:16,719
Speaker 3: what this is what Jason powis from when New Zealand

1868
01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:18,360
Speaker 3: does with his phone as he presses that button and

1869
01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 3: then chats to his chat TPT And you should have

1870
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:22,599
Speaker 3: seen me before, like a total boomer, Like I pressed

1871
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:24,880
Speaker 3: the button and I was like chat GPT, like I'm

1872
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:27,600
Speaker 3: talking to Siri. They chat GPT knows I'm talking to it.

1873
01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 3: I don't need to address it, but its full name. Anyway,

1874
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:32,600
Speaker 3: That's not what I'm meaning. And I totally take your

1875
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:34,720
Speaker 3: point that you can chat to it, but what it

1876
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:37,720
Speaker 3: needs to be somehow integrated in your life where you

1877
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:40,000
Speaker 3: don't have to open the phone, Like open the phone,

1878
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:42,760
Speaker 3: get the face ID, then go to the chat GPT app,

1879
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:44,439
Speaker 3: then press the button, then talk to it. Right, it

1880
01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:46,439
Speaker 3: needs to be somewhere where you just tap tap on

1881
01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:49,560
Speaker 3: your watch or tap tap on your on a lapalpen

1882
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:52,000
Speaker 3: or something like that, where you can talk to it anyway.

1883
01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:54,120
Speaker 3: That's the thing that's going to I reckon, that's the

1884
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:55,840
Speaker 3: thing that makes it just take off in terms of

1885
01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 3: everyday use for people. Listen. As you will know, I'm

1886
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 3: well obsessed with getting workers back into the office, and

1887
01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 3: there's new data from CBII that suggests we're not actually

1888
01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 3: doing too badly with this. And this is all relative, right,

1889
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:10,680
Speaker 3: because I reckon, five days in the office is what

1890
01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:12,599
Speaker 3: you need to do. But I realize not everybody does.

1891
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:14,200
Speaker 3: So we'll take the wins where we can get them.

1892
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:17,679
Speaker 3: The national average for a full time workers time which

1893
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:19,920
Speaker 3: are spent in the office in New Zealand sits at

1894
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:23,519
Speaker 3: three point three days. Now that's better than it was

1895
01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:26,000
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago at three point two days,

1896
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:28,160
Speaker 3: so we'll take that win. It's going up three point

1897
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:31,679
Speaker 3: three days. In Australia it's only two point eight days.

1898
01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:34,040
Speaker 3: In the UK it's only two point nine days. So

1899
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:37,360
Speaker 3: we are doing okay when you compare ourselves to countries

1900
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:39,800
Speaker 3: we would commonly compare ourselves to, and by the way,

1901
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:42,840
Speaker 3: the employers in places like the UK and Australia do

1902
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 3: have aspirations of where they want to get to, and

1903
01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:48,439
Speaker 3: even their aspirations for you know, where they're aiming are

1904
01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:50,240
Speaker 3: not as high as where we already are, which is

1905
01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:53,439
Speaker 3: three point three christ Church, you'll pulling your weight three

1906
01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:56,400
Speaker 3: point eight days on average spent in the office. Aucklanders

1907
01:29:56,439 --> 01:29:59,000
Speaker 3: are in for average three point one days, and no surprise,

1908
01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:03,559
Speaker 3: Wellingtonians are below average at three days. Office utilizations going up,

1909
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:05,800
Speaker 3: the percentage of which is the percentage of office space

1910
01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:08,719
Speaker 3: which is occupied doing it during a typical work week.

1911
01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:11,400
Speaker 3: That's sixty four percent that's gone up from sixty two

1912
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:15,000
Speaker 3: percent last year. And what is also important, and probably

1913
01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:18,240
Speaker 3: more important than anything here, is that the ones now

1914
01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:21,240
Speaker 3: making the decisions about whether you're in the office or

1915
01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:24,439
Speaker 3: not are the bosses, the big bosses, not you, not

1916
01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:27,519
Speaker 3: your team leader, and not you. So senior leadership and

1917
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:30,879
Speaker 3: HR are now making the call around hybrid work policies,

1918
01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:34,800
Speaker 3: and fifty six percent of cases and individuals and individual

1919
01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:38,879
Speaker 3: employees are only making the decision in about six percent

1920
01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:42,559
Speaker 3: last year it was sixteen percent. So it could do better,

1921
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:45,400
Speaker 3: like we could do better, and it could look better,

1922
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:47,640
Speaker 3: but at least we're headed in the right direction and

1923
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:49,559
Speaker 3: the right people are making the calls now, aren't They

1924
01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:52,480
Speaker 3: head off to the UK next sixteen away from seven.

1925
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:56,280
Speaker 1: Whether it's the macro MicroB or just playing economics, it's

1926
01:30:56,360 --> 01:31:00,400
Speaker 1: all on the Business Hour with Heather Dupicllen and Yes

1927
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:02,160
Speaker 1: for insurance investments.

1928
01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:06,040
Speaker 2: Hello, Ka, if you're in good heads, please talk spy either.

1929
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:07,960
Speaker 3: I don't even touch my phone, I just say grok.

1930
01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:09,200
Speaker 3: What's the weather tomorrow?

1931
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:09,840
Speaker 9: Do you go?

1932
01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:13,720
Speaker 3: Fourteen away from seven? Indo Brady UK corresponding Hello, Inda.

1933
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:16,160
Speaker 29: Hey, Heather, I can tell you it's raining here in

1934
01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:19,280
Speaker 29: Istanbul today. If anyone's interested you.

1935
01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:21,080
Speaker 3: In a stambul because you're working in a stambul.

1936
01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:24,479
Speaker 29: I am this week. Yeah, I'm filming my TV show

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Speaker 29: here and yeah it's it was beautiful yesterday twenty two

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Speaker 29: Celsius and sunny and I've just been there for a

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Speaker 29: little jog this morning here and it is.

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Speaker 3: Lashing rain when you're there. Do you just drink all

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Speaker 3: of the apple tea?

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Speaker 29: Oh my god, they can make tea of anything here

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Speaker 29: is absolutely stunning. The food, the spices. If anyone has

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Speaker 29: planning a big trip in twenty twenty six, put his

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Speaker 29: Stanbul on your list.

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Speaker 8: It is stunning.

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Speaker 3: Good place to go. Now, listen, how big was that

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Speaker 3: phone smuggling gang?

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Speaker 29: Yeah? This an extraordinary story in the papers this morning.

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Speaker 29: So back in London we know mobile phone theft has

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Speaker 29: been off the.

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Speaker 8: Charts for about two years.

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Speaker 29: Metropolitan Police have made a series of arrests. They haven't

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Speaker 29: put out the names of who's been arrested. There will

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Speaker 29: be trials in due course, but they're letting everyone know

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Speaker 29: that this one gang that they've now dismantled was responsible

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Speaker 29: for about forty percent forty percent of all mobile phone

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Speaker 29: theft and crime in the Capitol last year. In the

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Speaker 29: past twelve months, police estimate this gang had stolen, packaged,

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Speaker 29: and shipped forty thousand, mostly iPhones to China, a multi

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Speaker 29: million dollar industry. So the thieves on motorbikes around the

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Speaker 29: ballet lavas and these souped up scooters. They were getting

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Speaker 29: about six hundred dollars per device stolen. Police tracked down

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Speaker 29: two guys who they believed were the ring leaders of

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Speaker 29: the gangs. They put some surveillance on them and they

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Speaker 29: observed them buying two kilometers of tinfoil. So your phone

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Speaker 29: gets stolen, they're wrapped in tinfoil so it can't be traced,

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Speaker 29: and then they're packaging it up and then it's put

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Speaker 29: on a plane and it's off to China. So police

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Speaker 29: very very confident. Look, my concern is that this is

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Speaker 29: like a many headed Medusa. These two guys that have

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Speaker 29: been arrested, there will be more snakes will pop up.

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Speaker 29: But forty thousand devices they had shipped to China in

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Speaker 29: the past twelve months, it's quite.

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Speaker 3: Something, isn't it now. Jilly Cooper has obviously died. Was

1976
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Speaker 3: Camilla a friend of his.

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Speaker 29: Huge friend, lifelong friend and a big fan, and they'd

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Speaker 29: been together recently at a very special Queen's Reading Room Festival.

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Speaker 29: It was called I think just huge shock, because well

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Speaker 29: she wasn't ill. We know she died in a fall,

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Speaker 29: but she'd had quite a resurgence in the last twelve

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Speaker 29: to eighteen months because one of her books was made

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Speaker 29: into a TV series called Rivals. And I have to say,

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Speaker 29: hand on heart, if I swear if I was in prison,

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Speaker 29: in solitary confinement and someone said there's a Jilly Cooper novel,

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Speaker 29: I probably wouldn't have picked it up. I'm just being

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Speaker 29: honest here. Rivals came on the TV and I read

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Speaker 29: a couple of the reviews and everyone's saying, you have

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Speaker 29: to watch this. It was glorious, it was fun, it

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Speaker 29: was brilliant. And I got to the stage when I

1991
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Speaker 29: was running out of episodes to watch, I thought, am

1992
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Speaker 29: I Am I the kind of man who's going to

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Speaker 29: end up buying a Jilly Cooper novel. I thought it

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Speaker 29: was brilliant, So.

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Speaker 8: Good on her.

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Speaker 29: I think she sold eleven million novels in the UK

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Speaker 29: in her lifetime.

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Speaker 8: Great character.

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Speaker 29: And I love the tribute from Camilla, which ended with

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Speaker 29: the words she said, may her hereafter be full of

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Speaker 29: impossibly handsome men and devoted dogs. What a nice line.

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Speaker 3: That is a lovely line. Now, yeah, this is really

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01:34:29,160 --> 01:34:30,599
Speaker 3: said about Lewis Moody, isn't it.

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Speaker 29: Yeah, Morton, You're on a diagnosis yesterday, out of the blue,

2005
01:34:35,960 --> 01:34:37,839
Speaker 29: and he's known about it for a couple of weeks.

2006
01:34:38,280 --> 01:34:41,479
Speaker 29: He let everyone know yesterday. I mean England rugby legend

2007
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:44,599
Speaker 29: and from everyone I speak to in the rugby journalism world,

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01:34:44,680 --> 01:34:46,680
Speaker 29: one of the good guys. Just what you see is

2009
01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:49,320
Speaker 29: what you get. And the one picture that jumps out

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01:34:49,320 --> 01:34:51,680
Speaker 29: from all the English newspapers today it was taking that

2011
01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:54,600
Speaker 29: glorious trip two thousand and three when England won the

2012
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Speaker 29: World Cup beating Australia in their own backyard. The England

2013
01:34:57,840 --> 01:34:59,639
Speaker 29: boys had a day off. They were on the Gold

2014
01:34:59,680 --> 01:35:02,479
Speaker 29: Coast and they went to an amusement park and there's

2015
01:35:02,479 --> 01:35:05,519
Speaker 29: a picture of Lewis Moody going down a water slide

2016
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Speaker 29: with one of the England boys holding on to him

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Speaker 29: and they just looked like well it was the time

2018
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Speaker 29: of their lives. And just so many positive words of

2019
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Speaker 29: encouragement to Lewis Moody today, But yet another rugby star

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Speaker 29: with malta and neuron disease.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately I end of Thanks so much man, We'll talk

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Speaker 3: to you again in a couple of days. It's into Brady,

2023
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:28,120
Speaker 3: our UK correspondent staying in the UK, Taylor Swift. The

2024
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:31,280
Speaker 3: sales of her album means that she is breaking her

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Speaker 3: own records at the moment. So it was released on Friday,

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Speaker 3: as you know. Since then she has sold just in

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Speaker 3: the UK three hundred and four thousand copies. Now, honestly,

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01:35:40,520 --> 01:35:46,120
Speaker 3: I woe even is buying her album in the age

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Speaker 3: of Spotify, but these are the stats. Three hundred and

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Speaker 3: four thousand copies have been sold since Friday. This beats

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01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:54,559
Speaker 3: the sales of her last studio albums. Her last two

2032
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Speaker 3: of them twenty twenty four was The Tortured Poets Department

2033
01:35:57,200 --> 01:35:59,760
Speaker 3: only two hundred and seventy thousand copies. Twenty twenty two's

2034
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Speaker 3: mid Nights two hundred and four thousand copies. So she's

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Speaker 3: at three h four right now. What she wants to

2036
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Speaker 3: do is beat what you want to look at as

2037
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Speaker 3: the full week's sales, right the first week sales. She

2038
01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:13,200
Speaker 3: needs to beat each ed Shearon He Is Divide is

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Speaker 3: the highest selling by the looks of things. Twenty seventeen

2040
01:36:16,160 --> 01:36:20,919
Speaker 3: sold six hundred and seventy two thousand copies in three days.

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Speaker 3: She's halfway there. She's on track to have the biggest

2042
01:36:24,479 --> 01:36:27,120
Speaker 3: selling album of the year overall. The current title holder

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Speaker 3: is Sabrina Carpenter. Sabrina Carpenter sold Shortened Sweet. This is

2044
01:36:32,160 --> 01:36:34,680
Speaker 3: for this album. Her Shortened Sweet album has shifted four

2045
01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:39,800
Speaker 3: hundred and forty four thousand copies since January in three days. Right,

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Speaker 3: four one hundred and forty four thousand copies since January

2047
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:46,080
Speaker 3: in three days. How much is Taylor's old three hundred

2048
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Speaker 3: and four? I think she's taking that title this year.

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Speaker 3: Eight away from seven.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Tooper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio powered by Newstalk ZB.

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Speaker 3: By the way, how we talk to Akasha at five

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Speaker 3: Acacia being the bird who was outside Winston's house protesting

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Speaker 3: and then told everybody where he lives. And I mentioned

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Speaker 3: to you the fact that one New Zealand had cut

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Speaker 3: her contract. It's for the SAD.

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Speaker 11: I can see the Southern Cross and just to the

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Speaker 11: west that's Alvi Centuri.

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Speaker 3: That's a Casia just below Beta Centauri.

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Speaker 2: I can see a new satellite later with.

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Speaker 26: Our new one, new Zealand satellite network. You can now

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Speaker 26: text in the middle of nowhere, One New Zealand, Let's

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Speaker 26: get connected.

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Speaker 3: Now I've only seen that ad, but from what I understand,

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Speaker 3: it's an entire campaign. So thought some prayers to One

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01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:37,600
Speaker 3: New Zealand because that's annoying and look, normally, what a

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Speaker 3: waste of money. But normally I wouldn't be like, I

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Speaker 3: don't love, I don't love all of a sudden just abandoning.

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Speaker 3: But if I get it from One New Zealand' perspective, right,

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Speaker 3: if they if they hadn't taken action here, they would

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Speaker 3: have been seen to be potentially endorsing what a Casha

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Speaker 3: had been up to. So they were kind of this

2073
01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:56,640
Speaker 3: is really Okaysia has Acasia has brought this upon herself. Unfortunately,

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01:37:56,960 --> 01:38:00,920
Speaker 3: now the Nobel Committee is trying to hold of someone,

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Speaker 3: and someone is one of the guys who won this

2076
01:38:03,560 --> 01:38:07,120
Speaker 3: year's prize for medicine, Fred Fred Ramsdell. He won it

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Speaker 3: with two other ladies for their discoveries related to the

2078
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Speaker 3: functioning of the immune system, and they won it on Monday.

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Speaker 3: But Fred does not know this yet because they can't

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01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:18,439
Speaker 3: get hold of Fred because he is apparently living his

2081
01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:22,519
Speaker 3: best life at the moment, hiking off grid. So can

2082
01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:25,120
Speaker 3: you imagine? I mean, obviously, how funny is that that

2083
01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:27,960
Speaker 3: not even the nobel people could get hold of somebody

2084
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:29,880
Speaker 3: if they don't want to be got hold of. But

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Speaker 3: also when he finally turns his phone on, how awesome

2086
01:38:33,920 --> 01:38:35,200
Speaker 3: is that going to be? Libby?

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Speaker 26: Pretty awesome for him?

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01:38:38,040 --> 01:38:40,720
Speaker 3: I think, so, yes, I don't get when I turn

2089
01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:42,519
Speaker 3: my phone on, I don't get that kind of thing.

2090
01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:45,320
Speaker 3: I just get like, have your landed that yet? Do

2091
01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:47,240
Speaker 3: you want to be picked up? That's about the extent

2092
01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:48,840
Speaker 3: of it. So anyway, good for him.

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Speaker 24: Not a tax Ti've received.

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Speaker 11: I'm taking us out on some Taddy Swims tonight, who

2095
01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:55,080
Speaker 11: is in the country and playing his first concert in

2096
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Speaker 11: christ Church this evening.

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Speaker 3: I do know him? Do I know any other songs

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01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:02,400
Speaker 3: or just this one?

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Speaker 24: I don't know.

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01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:07,519
Speaker 3: Do you know any other songs Libby or just this one?

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01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:10,120
Speaker 3: Not really? This one's a radio hit, though, isn't it? Yes?

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Speaker 1: It is?

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Speaker 3: Are you going to his concert?

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Speaker 26: I'm not going?

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Speaker 3: Okay, so there you go, but you want to be.

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Speaker 11: He'll be in crash hurt Auckland and then heads over

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Speaker 11: to Ozzie for a whole bunch of stuff.

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Speaker 3: Don't worry about it because Libby is our as our

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Speaker 3: local cool person. And if Libby doesn't think it's cool

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Speaker 3: enough to go to You're You're okay, We'll see you tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: You talks it b.

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Speaker 26: Ah boo.

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Speaker 2: When you're not, he'll win me.

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Speaker 8: I'm falling off, falling and fun.

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Speaker 5: Can you.

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Speaker 3: You're talking on.

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Speaker 1: Regular Baby. Listen for more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive,

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