1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,547 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,907 Speaker 1: from News Talks EDB. 3 00:00:13,227 --> 00:00:15,987 Speaker 2: Because the third and final One day International black Caps 4 00:00:16,027 --> 00:00:19,307 Speaker 2: be Sri Lanka Eden Park starts at two o'clock this afternoon. 5 00:00:19,307 --> 00:00:22,827 Speaker 2: Black Caps batsman Mark Chapman has had a very good series. 6 00:00:23,227 --> 00:00:25,187 Speaker 2: Twenty nine not out in the first game at the basin, 7 00:00:25,467 --> 00:00:29,107 Speaker 2: seventy nine off sixty three balls. In game two in Hamilton. 8 00:00:30,227 --> 00:00:34,107 Speaker 3: Picked up and. 9 00:00:32,707 --> 00:00:36,707 Speaker 4: All away for sex they both bring up fifties with six's. 10 00:00:36,787 --> 00:00:41,507 Speaker 4: These two, well, they're in control out there and that's 11 00:00:41,547 --> 00:00:43,907 Speaker 4: also the one hundred partnership between these two. 12 00:00:44,147 --> 00:00:46,667 Speaker 2: Mark Chapman with us on Weekend Sport. Thanks for taking 13 00:00:46,707 --> 00:00:48,987 Speaker 2: the time, Mark. You've already won the series two Nils, 14 00:00:49,067 --> 00:00:51,827 Speaker 2: so this is effectively a dead rubber. So how do 15 00:00:51,867 --> 00:00:55,187 Speaker 2: you keep your standards high ahead of game three this afternoon? 16 00:00:56,347 --> 00:00:59,187 Speaker 3: Yeah, good head, Jason. Yeah, I mean it's been a 17 00:00:59,187 --> 00:01:01,787 Speaker 3: great white balls series, both at TEA twenty and the 18 00:01:01,787 --> 00:01:04,827 Speaker 3: one days. Obviously we've played some really good cricket so far, 19 00:01:04,947 --> 00:01:07,227 Speaker 3: and you know, I guess for us it's about maintaining 20 00:01:07,227 --> 00:01:10,147 Speaker 3: our standards and basically the boys are pretty fired up 21 00:01:11,427 --> 00:01:15,067 Speaker 3: for another game today and hopefully we can put it 22 00:01:15,107 --> 00:01:16,067 Speaker 3: up another good performance. 23 00:01:16,347 --> 00:01:18,667 Speaker 2: You've featured prominently in the first two games with the 24 00:01:18,707 --> 00:01:21,907 Speaker 2: bad good partnerships with both Opener's actually eighty seven unbeaten 25 00:01:21,947 --> 00:01:23,547 Speaker 2: with Will Young at the base in one hundred and 26 00:01:23,547 --> 00:01:27,227 Speaker 2: twelve with Rich and Ravendra in Hamilton. Interested to know 27 00:01:27,267 --> 00:01:30,827 Speaker 2: how similar or different those two are as batting partners. 28 00:01:32,507 --> 00:01:36,907 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's been awesome to be at 29 00:01:36,907 --> 00:01:40,907 Speaker 3: the top and be amongst some runs with Young and Rich, 30 00:01:40,947 --> 00:01:44,707 Speaker 3: and obviously both of them are beating beautifully. But yeah, 31 00:01:44,787 --> 00:01:48,067 Speaker 3: I mean, I guess, I guess both have their different styles. 32 00:01:48,107 --> 00:01:51,227 Speaker 3: Obviously one's left handed, ones right handed, But I mean 33 00:01:51,267 --> 00:01:52,947 Speaker 3: it's a pleasure to beat with both. Both are very 34 00:01:52,947 --> 00:01:55,187 Speaker 3: relaxed at the crease, and you know, it's just about 35 00:01:55,187 --> 00:01:58,027 Speaker 3: going out there and just enjoying ourselves. Really, do you. 36 00:01:58,027 --> 00:02:01,107 Speaker 2: Find personally that the T twenty and fifty over games 37 00:02:01,507 --> 00:02:03,707 Speaker 2: complement each other in terms of the way that you 38 00:02:04,067 --> 00:02:05,627 Speaker 2: go about building an innings? 39 00:02:07,507 --> 00:02:09,987 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I guess I've always been probably more 40 00:02:10,107 --> 00:02:13,587 Speaker 3: more attacking, an attacking style of players are probably lean 41 00:02:13,827 --> 00:02:16,907 Speaker 3: more towards the white Bull formats, But you know, I 42 00:02:16,947 --> 00:02:20,507 Speaker 3: still enjoy playing my Red Bull too, So yeah, it's 43 00:02:20,547 --> 00:02:23,027 Speaker 3: been nice to have been included in some Red Bull squads. 44 00:02:22,707 --> 00:02:25,547 Speaker 2: Recently, and in terms of the white ball when you 45 00:02:25,627 --> 00:02:28,027 Speaker 2: had to move so quickly and do have to domestically 46 00:02:28,027 --> 00:02:30,867 Speaker 2: as well. Between twenty over cricket T twenty cricket and 47 00:02:30,907 --> 00:02:34,987 Speaker 2: fifty over games, is it other two quite complementary? Do 48 00:02:35,027 --> 00:02:38,027 Speaker 2: you find yourself doing things differently in the fifty over game, 49 00:02:38,067 --> 00:02:39,667 Speaker 2: for example, as opposed to T twenty. 50 00:02:40,667 --> 00:02:43,467 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you know, it's sort of as time's 51 00:02:43,507 --> 00:02:47,867 Speaker 3: gone on, there's actually it's these formats actually become quite 52 00:02:47,867 --> 00:02:50,627 Speaker 3: different in the sense that you know, fifty overs is 53 00:02:50,667 --> 00:02:52,947 Speaker 3: two and a half times as long as a T twenty, 54 00:02:52,987 --> 00:02:55,267 Speaker 3: so you've actually got a lot more time than you think. 55 00:02:56,267 --> 00:02:58,907 Speaker 3: So I mean that takes a little bit of adjusting 56 00:02:58,947 --> 00:03:01,107 Speaker 3: to it, and you know, you probably just don't need 57 00:03:01,147 --> 00:03:03,827 Speaker 3: to take as many risks as early as you think, 58 00:03:04,027 --> 00:03:05,267 Speaker 3: just because there is so much time. 59 00:03:05,627 --> 00:03:07,587 Speaker 2: Do you still feel though you need to be striking 60 00:03:07,587 --> 00:03:10,147 Speaker 2: at one hundred plus even in the fifty over stuff? 61 00:03:10,147 --> 00:03:12,107 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously you do in T twenty, but I 62 00:03:12,107 --> 00:03:14,187 Speaker 2: mean your numbers are up over one hundred striking and 63 00:03:14,227 --> 00:03:16,467 Speaker 2: fifty over cricket as well. Is that kinda do you 64 00:03:16,467 --> 00:03:18,387 Speaker 2: feel that it's important that you're going to run a 65 00:03:18,387 --> 00:03:19,027 Speaker 2: ball at least. 66 00:03:19,787 --> 00:03:22,747 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think these days, I think being 67 00:03:22,747 --> 00:03:25,587 Speaker 3: around one hundred strike rate is probably becoming more of 68 00:03:25,627 --> 00:03:28,907 Speaker 3: the norm, if anything. And I think you know there's 69 00:03:28,947 --> 00:03:31,187 Speaker 3: slight differences in terms of one day cricket. You've got 70 00:03:31,187 --> 00:03:33,867 Speaker 3: an extra fielder in the circle, so you always feel 71 00:03:33,907 --> 00:03:36,667 Speaker 3: like you've got a boundary option as well, so you 72 00:03:36,707 --> 00:03:40,587 Speaker 3: know when it comes time to push the accelerator pedal, 73 00:03:40,587 --> 00:03:42,707 Speaker 3: you've always got options to find boundaries too, which is 74 00:03:42,707 --> 00:03:43,347 Speaker 3: pretty helpful. 75 00:03:43,827 --> 00:03:46,027 Speaker 2: And betting at three you've betted there in both the 76 00:03:46,067 --> 00:03:48,307 Speaker 2: t twenty n one days against Sri Lanka. Is that 77 00:03:48,307 --> 00:03:50,867 Speaker 2: your absolute preference is that we you feel most at home. 78 00:03:52,667 --> 00:03:54,547 Speaker 3: I mean, to be honest, I've probably betted more in 79 00:03:54,587 --> 00:03:58,467 Speaker 3: the middle for Zien and domestic, but to be fair, 80 00:03:58,507 --> 00:04:01,627 Speaker 3: domestically and internationally, I've betted up and down the order 81 00:04:01,667 --> 00:04:03,947 Speaker 3: for both Auckland Anti's in and so I mean, I 82 00:04:03,987 --> 00:04:07,027 Speaker 3: see myself as someone who's reasonably vers tile and able 83 00:04:07,067 --> 00:04:10,867 Speaker 3: to adapt to different positions. And I guess sometimes internationally 84 00:04:10,907 --> 00:04:13,627 Speaker 3: it's just about where the gap opens up and trying 85 00:04:13,627 --> 00:04:15,347 Speaker 3: to take a chance in certain positions. 86 00:04:15,707 --> 00:04:17,387 Speaker 2: And I know we're here to talk about the white 87 00:04:17,387 --> 00:04:19,707 Speaker 2: ball series, but can I ask you about your innings 88 00:04:19,707 --> 00:04:23,707 Speaker 2: and the planket shield for Aalkland against Canterbury two seven six. 89 00:04:23,747 --> 00:04:25,507 Speaker 2: What an innings, man, How do you reflect on that? 90 00:04:26,987 --> 00:04:30,987 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I guess it was. Yeah, Yeah, I hadn't 91 00:04:31,027 --> 00:04:33,947 Speaker 3: played red ball in a while, and you know, obviously 92 00:04:33,947 --> 00:04:37,067 Speaker 3: took some confidence of being included in the Test squad 93 00:04:37,107 --> 00:04:39,147 Speaker 3: and to be honest, I just sort of just came 94 00:04:39,227 --> 00:04:42,027 Speaker 3: back without much expectation and just try to play quite 95 00:04:42,067 --> 00:04:44,787 Speaker 3: sort of freely, and thankfully we're on a pretty good 96 00:04:44,827 --> 00:04:48,227 Speaker 3: in park surface, which always helps them. But yeahs about 97 00:04:48,227 --> 00:04:51,387 Speaker 3: that period of time as yes, something I haven't done 98 00:04:51,427 --> 00:04:53,267 Speaker 3: that much, but you know, it's sort of one of 99 00:04:53,307 --> 00:04:55,067 Speaker 3: those things that sort of was by in the moment 100 00:04:55,147 --> 00:04:57,187 Speaker 3: you're reflecting, you go, wow, that was you know, it's 101 00:04:57,187 --> 00:04:57,707 Speaker 3: pretty cool. 102 00:04:57,987 --> 00:05:00,387 Speaker 2: Did you at any stage you know, I don't know 103 00:05:00,427 --> 00:05:01,707 Speaker 2: what this is like, but when you get to two 104 00:05:01,787 --> 00:05:03,907 Speaker 2: forty two fifty to you start thinking about three hundred. 105 00:05:06,507 --> 00:05:08,427 Speaker 3: Yeah, A few people ask me that, to be honest, 106 00:05:08,427 --> 00:05:11,427 Speaker 3: that in the moment when you're sort of you've been 107 00:05:11,467 --> 00:05:13,627 Speaker 3: out there for that long, you're sort of feeling a 108 00:05:13,667 --> 00:05:16,627 Speaker 3: little bit worse aware, so you're sort of to be honesty, 109 00:05:16,787 --> 00:05:19,107 Speaker 3: by the end of it, they're almost got everyone on 110 00:05:19,147 --> 00:05:20,947 Speaker 3: the boundary, so it's just trying to hit every It 111 00:05:20,987 --> 00:05:22,347 Speaker 3: was almost at the end it was trying to play 112 00:05:22,347 --> 00:05:23,827 Speaker 3: a T twenty. It was trying to hit every ball 113 00:05:23,867 --> 00:05:26,067 Speaker 3: for six and you're thinking about declaration all that sort 114 00:05:26,107 --> 00:05:29,427 Speaker 3: of stuff. So yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean three 115 00:05:29,507 --> 00:05:31,467 Speaker 3: hundred would have been amazing, but to be honest, I'm 116 00:05:31,467 --> 00:05:33,347 Speaker 3: not complaining with two seventy six now, I. 117 00:05:33,307 --> 00:05:36,187 Speaker 2: Wouldn't imagine so, And just on the red bull stuff, 118 00:05:36,187 --> 00:05:39,867 Speaker 2: assa included in test squads you know recently. Do you 119 00:05:39,947 --> 00:05:42,667 Speaker 2: have strong red ball ambitions for New Zealand? 120 00:05:43,707 --> 00:05:43,867 Speaker 1: Yeah? 121 00:05:43,867 --> 00:05:47,507 Speaker 3: Absolutely. I mean I've played first class cricket my whole career. 122 00:05:48,427 --> 00:05:50,707 Speaker 3: You know, I feel like of, you know, put some 123 00:05:50,787 --> 00:05:53,547 Speaker 3: decent performances up over the years, and I guess it's 124 00:05:53,587 --> 00:05:55,747 Speaker 3: sort of just been one of those things where I 125 00:05:55,747 --> 00:05:58,347 Speaker 3: hadn't played as much red bull cricket as some other guys, 126 00:05:58,387 --> 00:06:00,907 Speaker 3: potentially just because I've been away with the white ball 127 00:06:00,907 --> 00:06:05,027 Speaker 3: teams quite often. So yeah, certainly, certainly something I'm still 128 00:06:05,027 --> 00:06:07,227 Speaker 3: pushing for at this stage. Absolutely, And just back to. 129 00:06:07,227 --> 00:06:08,387 Speaker 2: The one days, I mean, you've had to be a 130 00:06:08,387 --> 00:06:10,947 Speaker 2: bit patient there as well. You know T twenties, You know, 131 00:06:10,947 --> 00:06:13,067 Speaker 2: you're up in near eighty odd games now for New Zealand, 132 00:06:13,107 --> 00:06:15,987 Speaker 2: but no one day is your debud. What twenty fifteen 133 00:06:16,027 --> 00:06:19,027 Speaker 2: got one hundred on debut. But the opportunities haven't always 134 00:06:19,067 --> 00:06:20,867 Speaker 2: been as frequent as they have been in T twenties. 135 00:06:20,867 --> 00:06:23,027 Speaker 2: Has it been challenging at all to be patient in 136 00:06:23,067 --> 00:06:23,987 Speaker 2: the fifty over stuff? 137 00:06:25,507 --> 00:06:27,467 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's just been one of those things where, 138 00:06:27,507 --> 00:06:29,347 Speaker 3: you know, similar to the Test squad, the team has 139 00:06:29,347 --> 00:06:32,107 Speaker 3: been so settled for such a long period of time 140 00:06:32,187 --> 00:06:34,227 Speaker 3: and you know, had a lot of success as well. 141 00:06:34,347 --> 00:06:37,107 Speaker 3: So I mean I'm not the only one that's had 142 00:06:37,107 --> 00:06:40,107 Speaker 3: to wait a while, you know, weiit in the wings. 143 00:06:40,107 --> 00:06:42,147 Speaker 3: You know, you look at Matt Henry, someone who spent 144 00:06:42,187 --> 00:06:44,347 Speaker 3: a lot of time on the bench, and also Will 145 00:06:44,427 --> 00:06:47,667 Speaker 3: Young and I guess you're seeing those guys are starting 146 00:06:47,707 --> 00:06:50,827 Speaker 3: to show their skills on the international stage. So yeah, 147 00:06:51,147 --> 00:06:52,947 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I guess you have to be patient, 148 00:06:52,947 --> 00:06:54,707 Speaker 3: but everyone has to be patient at some stage in 149 00:06:54,787 --> 00:06:56,907 Speaker 3: their careers. So yeah, just grateful that I'm out there 150 00:06:56,907 --> 00:06:57,347 Speaker 3: at the moment. 151 00:06:57,467 --> 00:06:59,747 Speaker 2: And do you feel like, especially in the white ball stuff, 152 00:06:59,747 --> 00:07:01,707 Speaker 2: and probably more so in the T twenty that there 153 00:07:01,787 --> 00:07:03,907 Speaker 2: is a bit of a do enough changing of the 154 00:07:03,947 --> 00:07:06,227 Speaker 2: guards the right word, but a bit of a transitional stage. 155 00:07:06,467 --> 00:07:08,747 Speaker 2: You know, the squad that plays for Lanka, Tim Robinson 156 00:07:08,907 --> 00:07:11,627 Speaker 2: is in there, Mitch Hayes, Zack Folks and others. You know, 157 00:07:11,707 --> 00:07:13,547 Speaker 2: Jacob Duffy getting a decent run. Now, does it feel 158 00:07:13,547 --> 00:07:14,707 Speaker 2: look a bit of a changing of the guard? 159 00:07:16,027 --> 00:07:19,867 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd say so. I think you know, you look 160 00:07:19,907 --> 00:07:22,227 Speaker 3: at the team now and you know there's there's no 161 00:07:22,267 --> 00:07:24,347 Speaker 3: Willims and there's no sound, that there's no Bolt, and 162 00:07:24,907 --> 00:07:27,387 Speaker 3: you know, those guys feel pretty iconic when you think 163 00:07:27,427 --> 00:07:29,627 Speaker 3: of New Zealand cricket and you know now it's the 164 00:07:29,707 --> 00:07:33,587 Speaker 3: Revender as the Santa, there's the Nathan Smith of the 165 00:07:33,627 --> 00:07:35,947 Speaker 3: world that are now coming to the fore. And I think, 166 00:07:36,507 --> 00:07:39,387 Speaker 3: you know, what's really encouraging is that, you know, there's 167 00:07:39,387 --> 00:07:42,107 Speaker 3: been some amazing performances as well from from a lot 168 00:07:42,147 --> 00:07:44,067 Speaker 3: of those guys that are stepping into those roles. So 169 00:07:44,547 --> 00:07:46,867 Speaker 3: I mean there's always going to be some some periods 170 00:07:46,867 --> 00:07:48,827 Speaker 3: where you go through a bit of change and you're 171 00:07:48,867 --> 00:07:52,507 Speaker 3: finding finding the combinations that work. But on the whole, 172 00:07:52,587 --> 00:07:54,707 Speaker 3: I think it's it's been awesome to see the way 173 00:07:54,747 --> 00:07:56,907 Speaker 3: that the different places have stepped into the team. 174 00:07:56,947 --> 00:07:59,107 Speaker 2: And then well, did you bet Nathan Smith to take 175 00:07:59,147 --> 00:08:01,547 Speaker 2: that catch the other night? Did you always feel confident 176 00:08:02,507 --> 00:08:02,907 Speaker 2: pouch it? 177 00:08:03,587 --> 00:08:05,507 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a good mover, he's a he's a good 178 00:08:05,547 --> 00:08:07,747 Speaker 3: mover in the field, he's pretty agile, he's got a 179 00:08:07,747 --> 00:08:09,347 Speaker 3: good arm. So yeah, we backed them all the way. 180 00:08:09,467 --> 00:08:12,067 Speaker 2: Good stuff, all right, and after this obviously Champions Trophy 181 00:08:12,107 --> 00:08:15,947 Speaker 2: squad named on Sunday. Keen to be involved, obviously and 182 00:08:15,987 --> 00:08:17,507 Speaker 2: what should be a very exciting tournament. 183 00:08:18,307 --> 00:08:23,667 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, yeah, yeah selected, Yeah, becomeing my best 184 00:08:23,747 --> 00:08:26,067 Speaker 3: forward and you know, I think we'll have a pretty strong. 185 00:08:25,867 --> 00:08:28,227 Speaker 2: Team, absolutely right. I was going well for you at 186 00:08:28,227 --> 00:08:29,867 Speaker 2: the moment. Mark, thanks indeed for chatting to us. All 187 00:08:29,867 --> 00:08:31,067 Speaker 2: the best and ODI three this. 188 00:08:30,987 --> 00:08:34,027 Speaker 3: Afternoon brilliant, Thanks Jason, Thank you, Mark. 189 00:08:33,867 --> 00:08:37,347 Speaker 2: Mark Chapman. Then ahead of ODI three two o'clock this afternoon, 190 00:08:37,507 --> 00:08:39,147 Speaker 2: Eden Park. By the sounds of it, the weather's good. 191 00:08:39,707 --> 00:08:42,907 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live 192 00:08:42,987 --> 00:08:46,267 Speaker 1: to news Talk zed B weekends from midday, or follow 193 00:08:46,307 --> 00:08:47,947 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.