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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Teine podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks at B. Start your weekend off in style.

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Speaker 2: News Talks at B.

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Speaker 3: Good Morning, New Zealand. Welcome to News Talks eDV. Jack

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Speaker 3: Taine with you through it in the day today and

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Speaker 3: what a weekend we have. We've got the derby, the

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Speaker 3: third derby in the A League between Auckland FC and

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Speaker 3: the Phoenix kicking off and Tarmaqa Makoto Auckland this evening

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Speaker 3: five o'clock. Cannot wait for that Electric cab in today

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Speaker 3: two in christ Church. That is it's really morphed into

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Speaker 3: like an incredible concert slash festival experience. Hey, I mean

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Speaker 3: just look at the lineup this year, The Prodigy, the Kooks,

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Speaker 3: astonishing for the three. So we're going to take you

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Speaker 3: live to christ Church as Electric av continues in our

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Speaker 3: feature interview after ten o'clock this morning. I'm really excited

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Speaker 3: about this. One Groove Armada, four time Glastonbury headliners are

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Speaker 3: going to be with us. They'll be with us right

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Speaker 3: after ten o'clock. Right now, though it is eight minutes

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Speaker 3: past nine Jack And in the end it was just

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Speaker 3: over an hour, just over an hour between being asleep

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Speaker 3: on the floor of Auckland Hospital to standing bewildered under

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Speaker 3: the delivery sweet lights helping to dress my newborn son.

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Speaker 3: Marva had been induced on Sunday. The scans had suggested

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Speaker 3: that all was okay, but that our baby was a

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Speaker 3: wee bit small for his gestational age, and we spent

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Speaker 3: an oddly serene day waiting for the induction medication to

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Speaker 3: kick in. You know, they give you like a dose

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Speaker 3: of the stuff every day two hours until you go

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Speaker 3: into labor, but sometimes it takes a few hours to work,

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Speaker 3: and sometimes it can take days. It was actually, it

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Speaker 3: was weird. It was kind of lovely in a way.

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Speaker 3: Marv and I just had a really chill day. We

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Speaker 3: both read for hours in between the doses. We went

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Speaker 3: for coffee, we went for a stroll in the domain.

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Speaker 3: Marv constantly assessing babies every shift and every hint of

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Speaker 3: a contraction. My goodness, though when it happened, it happened

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Speaker 3: zero to one hundred a blur. I won't, I won't labor,

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Speaker 3: you sing with all the details, but well, it's become

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Speaker 3: clear to me that there was a reason every parent

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Speaker 3: It felt like a week's worth of crazy experiences happened

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Speaker 3: in the space of about fifteen minutes. It was beautiful,

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Speaker 3: it was it was violent, it was it was wild,

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Speaker 3: was all all these different things. Marvel was incredible, She

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying that calmness was a good response. Honestly,

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Speaker 3: I was probably just a bit stunned. And it turned

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Speaker 3: out that our son was too. When he came out,

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Speaker 3: they had to hurry him off and chuck him on

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Speaker 3: amazing midwife and from the other hospital staff who were

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Speaker 3: I didn't either. The scans were right. Our son was

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Speaker 3: small for his gestational age, about five and a half pounds,

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Speaker 3: can be no doubt he has inherited my skin tone,

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Speaker 3: longest that I've been away from him in his life,

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Speaker 3: isn't it amazing how instinct works out of the womb,

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Speaker 3: I've got a few random takeaways from the week. Number

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Speaker 3: one the placenta. Wow, I mean that thing could feed

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Speaker 3: and if our experience of the New Zealand healthcare system

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Speaker 3: done it all, having done everything, to immediately switch to

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Speaker 3: nourishing him day and night, hour after hour after hour.

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Speaker 3: What can I tell you about our son? Well, I

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Speaker 3: think he's got his mum's eyes. He sucks his thumb.

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Speaker 3: His first music was the Coln Concert and he made

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Speaker 3: sure to stay up to watch Will Young and Tom

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Speaker 3: Latham score centuries against Pakistan. His name is going to

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Speaker 3: he's got a long list of visitors waiting to meet

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Speaker 3: him too. After five nights away yesterday, I put our

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Speaker 3: running on caffeine, sugar and love. We sat there together

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Speaker 3: a family and it was perfect. Jack dam ninety two.

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Speaker 3: get in touch. This morning, Jack at Newstalk ZEDB dot

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Speaker 3: co dot Nz. We are heading into Oscar season, and

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Speaker 3: so this morning our film reviewer is doing something a

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Speaker 3: in her reviews this week, so we'll share those with

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Speaker 3: next right now, it's fourteen minutes past nine. I'm Jack Tame.

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Speaker 2: Of way to kick off your weekend.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations Jack, Are you getting much sleep? Ha ha ha ha.

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Speaker 3: We all know, we all know the answer to that. Yeah. Look,

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Speaker 3: it's fair to say that our sun seems more focused

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Speaker 3: on feeding and sleeping at the moment, and that's absolutely

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Speaker 4: Morning sir, and congratulations Jack to you and Marba. Your

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Speaker 4: life's changed forever of course, and and and your peace

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Speaker 4: was just superb Thanksgiving. Yeah, yeah, it's.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I just feel like all the cliches are

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Speaker 4: Take it that your lovely baby boy doesn't have those

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Speaker 3: But anyway, Kevin, you want to talk about baby names

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Speaker 4: Well, I thought, saying that we waited for the official

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Speaker 5: The curse that is cast.

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Speaker 4: As Bob Dnnan had put it, no one is going

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Speaker 4: away with saying nothing. In my opinion, there's only one

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Speaker 4: way to react when parents announce the name of their baby.

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Speaker 4: It is fabulous love it. I think it's reasonable to

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Speaker 4: how babies' names come under intense scrutiny, jack, isn't it

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Speaker 4: when they're announced. I remember when our daughter was born

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Speaker 4: and we called her Tommy. People would look puzzled and say,

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Speaker 4: When people said to me, but Tommy's a boy's name.

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Speaker 4: I've found that some simple just to say it isn't anymore.

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Speaker 4: Look forward to hearing, Yeah, in good time, the wonderful name.

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Speaker 5: Good morning, sir, Morning Jack, big congrats, Thank you to

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Speaker 6: Killedo oh, good morning Jack, And just like everybody else,

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Speaker 6: I just wors like congratulations to you. It's very exciting

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Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you. It's very kind. Yep, And I'm

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Speaker 3: so let's have a listen to the first one. This

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Speaker 3: is no other Land tho thousand Palestinians beast one of

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Speaker 3: the single biggest expulsion decisions. Sinceny is really occupation of

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Speaker 3: the Paradlanian territories began. Okay, that's no other land. And yes,

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Speaker 3: as the trailer suggests, this is fairly topical at the moment,

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Speaker 3: it is.

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Speaker 6: And look, it's no surprise that this film has ended

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Speaker 6: up on the Oscarists nominated for Best Documentary. It has

433
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Speaker 6: been winning awards all around the world at all the

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Speaker 6: major film festivals. It cannot for probably political reasons, get

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Speaker 6: a distributor distributor in the US, but I think that

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Speaker 6: that will probably change soon. This is a film made

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Speaker 6: by a Palestinian Israeli collective. So it's led by Palestinian

438
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Speaker 6: filmmaker Basil Adra and he's from the West Bank. He's

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Speaker 6: an activist and he's also a lawyer. He's young, he's

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Speaker 6: about twenty eight years old now, but he has been

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Speaker 6: filming what has been happening in his area, for in

442
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Speaker 6: Masafa Yata since he was a young boy, since he

443
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Speaker 6: was a teenager. His parents were also activists. He is

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Speaker 6: joined by an Israeli journalist, Yuval Abraham, and then there's

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Speaker 6: a couple of other people involved. But these two are

446
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Speaker 6: not only kind of directing and producing this film, they

447
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Speaker 6: also are kind of they star in it as well.

448
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Speaker 6: We follow them on their journey and it captures the

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Speaker 6: slow distraction of the occupied West Bank area region of

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Speaker 6: Musafa Yatta. And look, they have been fighting since the

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Speaker 6: nineteen eighties to remain on the land, the Palestinians who

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Speaker 6: live there. The Israelis want to turn it into a

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Speaker 6: military training zone, and they've been able to sort of

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Speaker 6: go to the courts and prevent things happening and things.

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Speaker 6: But then pretty much since twenty twenty, the Israeli authorities

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Speaker 6: argued that the Palestinian communities had not been permanent residents

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Speaker 6: to the area and they didn't have the right to

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Speaker 6: live there. So they then began sort of in twenty

459
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Speaker 6: twenty two, going in and just destroying people's bulldozing people's homes,

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Speaker 6: cutting off the water, the electricity, and so you see

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Speaker 6: these people, you see this all happening. So it's an

462
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Speaker 6: emotional film without trying to be emotionally manipulative, if you mean,

463
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Speaker 6: because they're literally just standing their film with what happens

464
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Speaker 6: and how it's all unfolding, and the way everybody's treated

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Speaker 6: and the ankst and the emotion around it. It is

466
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Speaker 6: really heartbreaking because there doesn't seem to be any solution

467
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Speaker 6: or any hope, and that's what you really get from

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Speaker 6: these two filmmakers, and as they they capture all this

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Speaker 6: in real time. And yeah, what's also really interesting is

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Speaker 6: the relationship between the two of them, which also gives

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Speaker 6: you a bit of an understanding about this area and

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Speaker 6: what it is like to live there. So of course

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Speaker 6: Buzzil he is from this area. He went to university

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Speaker 6: he got a law degree. There are no jobs in

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Speaker 6: the West Bank. He can only work in construction. He

476
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Speaker 6: can't leave the area. He is under military law. Whereas

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Speaker 6: Val who comes from Jerusalem to film and write stories

478
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Speaker 6: and work with him on this project, he is free

479
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Speaker 6: to go wherever he wants. He's civilian law. So there's

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Speaker 6: this really great contrast between the two of them. There's

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Speaker 6: two young men about the same age, and the different

482
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Speaker 6: lives that they're able and not able to live is

483
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Speaker 6: also kind of made quite transparent in the story.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that sounds really interesting and like you said,

485
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Speaker 3: really confronting as well. But yeah, it's going to be

486
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Speaker 3: interesting to see, given the kind of politics around it,

487
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Speaker 3: how that does at the OSCARS. Given it can't even

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Speaker 3: get a distributor in the US, so that's no other land.

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Speaker 3: And next up another documentary nominated for an oscar. In

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Speaker 3: a couple of weeks time, let's you listen to Black

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Speaker 3: Box Diaries.

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Speaker 6: I have tell s about what happens.

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Speaker 7: Scared, but all I want to do is talk about

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Speaker 7: the truth.

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Speaker 8: Many people already witness what kind of negative reaction I've got.

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Speaker 9: Or just a systems not origin.

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Speaker 6: Without these recordings, no one would believe what I heard.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's black Box Diaries tell us about it. Francisco.

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Speaker 6: Yes, So this is also a documentary which has sort

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Speaker 6: of been years in the making as well. This is

501
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Speaker 6: a story of the Japanese journalist who investigates her own

502
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Speaker 6: sexual assault and an attempt to sort of modernize some

503
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Speaker 6: quite antiquated sexual assault laws in Japan. She already Ito

504
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Speaker 6: it directs and is the face of this film. Is

505
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Speaker 6: this journalist and she was raped in two thousand fifteen,

506
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Speaker 6: and the beginning of the film shows us this particular incident.

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Speaker 6: So a very senior journalist, she was applying for a job,

508
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Speaker 6: she went to meet him. Turns out it was a

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Speaker 6: dinner she claims to have been drugged, and then on

510
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Speaker 6: the taxi on the way home, the journalist takes me

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Speaker 6: back to the hotel, even though she claims that she

512
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Speaker 6: wanted to be let off at a station. And then

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Speaker 6: and then she's taken into the hotel and the assault happens,

514
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Speaker 6: and the film this is sort of announced to us

515
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Speaker 6: at the beginning of the film with a conversation with

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Speaker 6: her taxi driver, and then you see the footage of

517
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Speaker 6: her being dragged out of the taxi at the hotel,

518
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Speaker 6: clearly dragged and sort of taken into this hotel. So

519
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Speaker 6: it's quite a harrowing start to this story, but it's

520
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Speaker 6: basically we follow her as she then decides to come

521
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Speaker 6: forward and requests a civil yet sorry, criminal needs to

522
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Speaker 6: be brought and only about four percent of sexual assaults

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Speaker 6: reported in Japan. It's not something people want to do

524
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Speaker 6: and they very rarely put their faces out there, and

525
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Speaker 6: she's actually decided, I have to do this. This is ridiculous.

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Speaker 6: I have to do this. I have to we have

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Speaker 6: to try and change these laws in our and our

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Speaker 6: attitude towards sexual assault. And this causes a bit of

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Speaker 6: a fraction, you know, causes a bit of friction with

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Speaker 6: her family. And then we follow her on this journey

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Speaker 6: and she loses the criminal case, but she then brings

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Speaker 6: a civil case, which she need wins, and she writes

533
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Speaker 6: a book about it, and she's sort of documented this

534
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Speaker 6: in this film the whole way through once again. And

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Speaker 6: then of course in the middle of all this, me

536
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Speaker 6: too happens and finally people go, hang on, this is

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Speaker 6: really big, quite scandalous case. Because the journalist also who

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Speaker 6: was involved was a close friend of the prime minister's

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Speaker 6: So there was a lot of scandal here but no

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Speaker 6: one picked up on it, which just and she got

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Speaker 6: a lot of abuse and she you know, life was

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Speaker 6: very very difficult for her for about eight years. But

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Speaker 6: you know she's she's stuck to her guns and has

544
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Speaker 6: had quite an impact when it comes to talking about

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Speaker 6: sexual abuse in Japan.

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Speaker 3: So it's amazing. Y. Yeah, so that's black Box Diaries.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I was thinking our Oscar nominated documentaries ever very uplifting,

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Speaker 3: and then I remember my Octopus teacher won Oscar, didn't it,

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Speaker 3: and that was that was cool. I don't know if

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Speaker 3: it was uplifting, but it was, you know, it was

552
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Speaker 3: as gritty as these ones. Anyway, they do sound like

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Speaker 3: amazing bits of storytelling. So thank you very much, Fantasica

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Speaker 3: black Box Diaries and no Other Land her film picks

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Speaker 3: for this week. Both of those are nominated for an

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Speaker 3: Oscar which is on March third, I think New Zealand time,

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Speaker 3: and we'll have all the details for them on the

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Speaker 3: news talk he'd be website. Thank you very much for

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Speaker 3: feedback this morning. Jack. Congratulations. I have tears streaming down

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Speaker 3: my face this morning, says HJ. Thank you Jack, regarding

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Speaker 3: names and naming babies. As far as I'm concerned, he's

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Speaker 3: just going to remember that they're going to have that

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Speaker 3: name for life. That other people have to know how

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Speaker 3: to say it or spell it. I'm in the police.

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Speaker 3: You should see what names I hear. Sometimes I think

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Speaker 3: parents might a bit drunk when they give a name. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Jackie did right. You don't want to name a child

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Speaker 3: before you actually meet them. You never know how meeting

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Speaker 3: them and seeing them for the first time might change

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Speaker 3: your opinion. Ninety two ninety two is our text number

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Speaker 3: if you want to send us a message that peach

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Speaker 3: and blueberry Frangi Panny Tart recipe.

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Speaker 1: Next Saturday mornings with jack Day keeping the conversation going

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Speaker 3: Twelve minutes to ten on News Talks edb our cook

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Speaker 3: Nicki Wis is here with her recipe for us this morning.

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Speaker 10: Hey, hey, congratulations, thank you, thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: We've done a lot of feeding for all of us

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Speaker 3: in our house over the last few days. Yeah well yes, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: the yeah, and people will.

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Speaker 10: Start dropping your meals off now, so shall be that

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Speaker 10: while at last.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I could say, hey, you've got a delicious Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you've got a delicious recipe for us this morning, a

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Speaker 3: peach and blueberry frang of panny tart. And the yellow

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Speaker 3: peaches are just sort of like, you're perfect right now.

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Speaker 3: The white peaches are maybe just past it, but the

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Speaker 3: yellow peaches are on points, I think.

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Speaker 10: So yeah, and the Golden queens, and I just wanted

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Speaker 10: to slip this little recipe and now at this sort

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Speaker 10: of end of feed because to be honest, peaches and blueberries,

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Speaker 10: you know, they won't be around forever people, so we're

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Speaker 10: really going to get into them now, I reckon. So, yeah,

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Speaker 10: this is a beautiful franchi of pony tat and it's

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Speaker 10: super easy. You can make it even easier for yourself

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Speaker 10: by buying the sweet short pastry that kind of goes

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Speaker 10: on the base. And then we have this beautiful frang

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Speaker 10: of poney filling that is studded with the fruit. So

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Speaker 10: I'll run your street and it's super easy. Heat your oven.

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Speaker 10: It does it is it a bit of a hot

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Speaker 10: heat two hundred degrees celsius. That's not fan bake. If

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Speaker 10: you want to go fan bake you're more like one ninety.

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Speaker 10: Place the tray in there to heat up as well,

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Speaker 10: because we're going to put our tart on there, and

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Speaker 10: I think the great thing is that sort of helps.

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Speaker 11: The pastry cook.

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Speaker 10: I've used a twenty five centimeter loose spottom tart and

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Speaker 10: that's sort of fluted around the edges, so that's kind

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Speaker 10: of like a kish tin something like that, but not ceramic.

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Speaker 11: You want it in here.

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Speaker 10: Put the sweet roll, your sweet short pastry out so

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Speaker 10: that it fits and comes up the sides. The great

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Speaker 10: thing about short pastry jack is it falls apart easily,

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Speaker 10: but it's easy to do a patch up job. It

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Speaker 10: doesn't have to be perfect because it's going to get

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Speaker 10: smothered with a whole lot of other yummy stuff.

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Speaker 11: So if you you know, if it tears a little bit,

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Speaker 11: just patch it up and no problem.

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Speaker 10: Prick it all over with the fork and then pop

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Speaker 10: that in the freezer and chill it while you make

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Speaker 10: your french. A parney filling. French party filling is ground almonds.

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Speaker 10: A ground almond filling. I like it, though it doesn't

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Speaker 10: have the taint of sort of almond essence or mars

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Speaker 10: a pen or anything like that it's just that beautiful

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Speaker 10: filling nut of the nuts. You cream some butter and

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Speaker 10: two hundred grams of soft butter, and I love this

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Speaker 10: time of the year because if you leave the butter out,

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Speaker 10: it's that perfect consistency for creaming it with sugar one

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Speaker 10: hundred and fifty grams of kast of sugar and then

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Speaker 10: just beat that and it'll go really light and creamy.

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Speaker 10: You want to add in three eggs, but I do

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Speaker 10: that one at a time, sort of beating kind of

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Speaker 10: for about twenty minutes twenty seconds in between each one,

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Speaker 10: and then stir in two hundred grams of ground flow

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Speaker 10: of ground almonds and four tablespoons of plain flour. You

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Speaker 10: could use gluten free flour for that and be no

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Speaker 10: problem mix it until it's just combined. I don't worry

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Speaker 10: with vanilla escnce or anything with this jat because I

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Speaker 10: think it just we just want the pure, beautiful flavor

641
00:34:30,133 --> 00:34:33,173
Speaker 10: of the peaches and the blueberries to come through. So

642
00:34:33,213 --> 00:34:36,333
Speaker 10: then we spoon this filling over onto our chilled pastry

643
00:34:36,333 --> 00:34:39,173
Speaker 10: and spread it nice and evenly, and then stud it

644
00:34:39,293 --> 00:34:43,813
Speaker 10: with the four fresh peaches peeled and quart it and

645
00:34:43,853 --> 00:34:47,133
Speaker 10: one hundred and fifty grams of blueberries and just throw

646
00:34:47,173 --> 00:34:49,813
Speaker 10: that on top. The sort of the fringe of pani

647
00:34:49,893 --> 00:34:51,893
Speaker 10: will actually rise up around the.

648
00:34:51,813 --> 00:34:53,053
Speaker 11: Fruit a little bit as well.

649
00:34:53,733 --> 00:34:55,373
Speaker 10: Put it on that heat to tray cook it for

650
00:34:55,413 --> 00:34:58,613
Speaker 10: about thirty five minutes or until the filling is ready set,

651
00:34:58,653 --> 00:35:01,493
Speaker 10: and it's kind of a beautiful golden brown cool it.

652
00:35:01,533 --> 00:35:06,253
Speaker 10: I think it's much better eaten cold, this tart, although

653
00:35:06,413 --> 00:35:08,693
Speaker 10: what I should say is you can also brush the

654
00:35:08,693 --> 00:35:11,933
Speaker 10: top of it with some warmedhummet honey or maple syrup

655
00:35:12,933 --> 00:35:15,413
Speaker 10: and it just gives it that gloss, you know, which

656
00:35:15,453 --> 00:35:17,453
Speaker 10: I think is really what we're after, and serve it

657
00:35:17,493 --> 00:35:21,693
Speaker 10: with some beautiful whipped cream and it's just beautiful. It's

658
00:35:21,773 --> 00:35:24,813
Speaker 10: such a gorgeous tart for dessert or just snacking on.

659
00:35:25,893 --> 00:35:29,733
Speaker 3: The thing is the franchi panny. Just like ground almonds.

660
00:35:30,373 --> 00:35:33,613
Speaker 3: There's something magic. It's the fat content, like it really

661
00:35:33,693 --> 00:35:36,653
Speaker 3: just give it's the fat content. It really gives it

662
00:35:36,773 --> 00:35:37,693
Speaker 3: something special.

663
00:35:37,733 --> 00:35:37,893
Speaker 12: Eh.

664
00:35:38,373 --> 00:35:40,053
Speaker 11: It's so rich and beautiful.

665
00:35:40,093 --> 00:35:42,373
Speaker 10: You've got three eggs to enriches, so there's actually lots

666
00:35:42,373 --> 00:35:45,453
Speaker 10: of protein this tart, so it's quite filling. You're not

667
00:35:45,453 --> 00:35:47,933
Speaker 10: going to find yourself going back for more and more

668
00:35:47,973 --> 00:35:51,413
Speaker 10: because it's just bubblegum. You know, you really are quite

669
00:35:51,453 --> 00:35:54,893
Speaker 10: satisfied eating this. I just absolutely love it. Can I

670
00:35:55,013 --> 00:35:57,373
Speaker 10: just say that you've caught me this morning. I've just

671
00:35:57,373 --> 00:36:00,253
Speaker 10: stepped out of a judging panel where I'm helping to

672
00:36:00,333 --> 00:36:02,093
Speaker 10: judge the Outstanding.

673
00:36:01,453 --> 00:36:03,333
Speaker 11: Food Producers Awards for New Zealand.

674
00:36:03,733 --> 00:36:06,573
Speaker 10: Yesterday I was on seafood this morning, Jack Paul me,

675
00:36:07,053 --> 00:36:08,173
Speaker 10: I've been on gelato.

676
00:36:09,573 --> 00:36:11,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just see, if you just work yourself into

677
00:36:11,973 --> 00:36:14,413
Speaker 3: these positions, I love that. Can I just say you

678
00:36:14,733 --> 00:36:16,493
Speaker 3: can just say and all of us are just going

679
00:36:16,493 --> 00:36:18,533
Speaker 3: to feel nice and.

680
00:36:19,533 --> 00:36:21,013
Speaker 11: For the results coming.

681
00:36:20,853 --> 00:36:23,933
Speaker 10: Up, because I mean I just imagine some beautiful gelato

682
00:36:24,053 --> 00:36:25,853
Speaker 10: or ice cream to go with this tartan.

683
00:36:26,053 --> 00:36:27,653
Speaker 11: Yeah, it would be pretty fantastic.

684
00:36:27,653 --> 00:36:30,813
Speaker 3: It would be just just oh, sorry, you go.

685
00:36:32,173 --> 00:36:35,013
Speaker 10: I was just going to say, I've also included online

686
00:36:35,093 --> 00:36:37,493
Speaker 10: and the faced pastry. Miss if you want to make it,

687
00:36:37,813 --> 00:36:40,733
Speaker 10: you know, making it yourself, but you know you can

688
00:36:40,773 --> 00:36:42,933
Speaker 10: make it easier by just giving some strawboard And.

689
00:36:42,893 --> 00:36:43,973
Speaker 11: Sorry, what were you going to say?

690
00:36:44,133 --> 00:36:45,413
Speaker 3: I was just going to say, make sure you pick

691
00:36:45,413 --> 00:36:47,653
Speaker 3: a gelato that's nice and elastic. That's what I like

692
00:36:47,693 --> 00:36:53,373
Speaker 3: about my rich It's nice and striches superb Okay, well,

693
00:36:53,373 --> 00:36:55,093
Speaker 3: look we'll put that recipe up on the news talks.

694
00:36:55,093 --> 00:36:57,893
Speaker 3: He'd be website. Thank you so much, Nikky, and you're

695
00:36:57,973 --> 00:37:00,253
Speaker 3: your very tough gig and we will catch again soon.

696
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701
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Speaker 3: That's crazy. One of the most successful electronic dance artists

702
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Speaker 3: or duos certainly of all time. They are making their

703
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704
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705
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Speaker 3: their tour, tell us about how electronic music is changing,

706
00:37:47,213 --> 00:37:49,013
Speaker 3: and tell us about some of the other things in

707
00:37:49,053 --> 00:37:53,133
Speaker 3: their lives. There cannot be many electronic music artists who

708
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Speaker 3: are passionate regenerative farming enthusiasts, for example. So yeah, really

709
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Speaker 3: looking forward to catching up with the boys as well

710
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712
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716
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717
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Speaker 3: Ah So Good. Groov Ar Mada are legends of dance

723
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Speaker 3: and electronic music. Tom Finlay and Andy Cato make up

724
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Speaker 3: the duo and have been pumping out tracks for more

725
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Speaker 3: than a quarter of a century, now building a reputation

726
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Speaker 3: as one of the very best. They've captured the magic.

727
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Speaker 3: They've reached iconic status. They've had to cancel gigs because

728
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Speaker 3: they were scared that too many people would turn up. Yes,

729
00:39:38,293 --> 00:39:40,373
Speaker 3: that's the thing, and now they're coming back to New

730
00:39:40,453 --> 00:39:43,573
Speaker 3: Zealand to round off our summer with a bang. Tom

731
00:39:43,573 --> 00:39:45,933
Speaker 3: and Andy of Groove Armada are with us this morning.

732
00:39:46,013 --> 00:39:47,373
Speaker 3: Kioto guys, welcome to the show.

733
00:39:48,613 --> 00:39:49,693
Speaker 2: You very much. Tom.

734
00:39:49,733 --> 00:39:51,693
Speaker 3: Maybe we can start with you. I don't want to

735
00:39:51,693 --> 00:39:54,573
Speaker 3: make either of you feel old, but I'm all too

736
00:39:54,613 --> 00:39:57,733
Speaker 3: aware it is almost what thirty years since you guys

737
00:39:57,733 --> 00:40:01,493
Speaker 3: started playing music together. Is the rush that you get

738
00:40:01,613 --> 00:40:05,173
Speaker 3: from being on stage, whether it's djaying or as part

739
00:40:05,213 --> 00:40:08,573
Speaker 3: of a live performance, is the rush the same today

740
00:40:08,853 --> 00:40:09,653
Speaker 3: as it's always been.

741
00:40:11,613 --> 00:40:14,853
Speaker 14: It's it's different, but like it's still there, you know,

742
00:40:14,853 --> 00:40:17,613
Speaker 14: it's still really exciting. It's like, in some ways it's

743
00:40:17,613 --> 00:40:20,093
Speaker 14: like it's quite intense because of that sense of like,

744
00:40:20,453 --> 00:40:22,853
Speaker 14: you know, we're probably near the near the twilight of

745
00:40:22,853 --> 00:40:24,853
Speaker 14: our crib and the dawn, so you're kind of conscious

746
00:40:24,893 --> 00:40:27,653
Speaker 14: that you need to kind of, you know, really kind

747
00:40:27,653 --> 00:40:30,813
Speaker 14: of savor these moments. You know, I guess we've got

748
00:40:30,813 --> 00:40:33,653
Speaker 14: a little bit more experience and they haven't got that

749
00:40:33,813 --> 00:40:36,053
Speaker 14: kind of that you know, first night nerve stuff is

750
00:40:36,093 --> 00:40:38,053
Speaker 14: probably a little less intense to me than it used

751
00:40:38,093 --> 00:40:38,293
Speaker 14: to be.

752
00:40:38,413 --> 00:40:40,453
Speaker 15: But yeah, no, it's always really exciting.

753
00:40:40,493 --> 00:40:41,933
Speaker 14: It's always sort of trying to come to a new

754
00:40:41,933 --> 00:40:44,493
Speaker 14: space and assess the vibe and try to make the

755
00:40:44,573 --> 00:40:46,093
Speaker 14: right decisions in the heat of the moment.

756
00:40:46,133 --> 00:40:47,813
Speaker 15: That's still as complicated as ever been.

757
00:40:47,853 --> 00:40:49,693
Speaker 3: You know, Am I right in thinking that you guys

758
00:40:49,693 --> 00:40:55,453
Speaker 3: have supposedly retired three times? I don't believe the rumors.

759
00:40:56,013 --> 00:40:57,733
Speaker 16: It was to do with the it was to do

760
00:40:57,853 --> 00:41:01,333
Speaker 16: with the live shows, and we called it. We called

761
00:41:01,373 --> 00:41:03,813
Speaker 16: it a day with the live shows a couple of

762
00:41:03,853 --> 00:41:08,293
Speaker 16: times and then made very joyful comebacks. But the dejailing

763
00:41:08,293 --> 00:41:10,493
Speaker 16: has always been there since the beginning. It's always been

764
00:41:10,533 --> 00:41:13,653
Speaker 16: a kind of unchanging backbone of the whole group of

765
00:41:13,653 --> 00:41:14,493
Speaker 16: marketing experience.

766
00:41:14,733 --> 00:41:16,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that makes it. So what is it that

767
00:41:17,133 --> 00:41:20,053
Speaker 3: keeps you hanging on? What what keeps you in, you know,

768
00:41:21,653 --> 00:41:24,373
Speaker 3: savoring the kind of experience that you always have.

769
00:41:26,373 --> 00:41:27,813
Speaker 14: I mean it's just, you know, like it's done for

770
00:41:28,213 --> 00:41:29,853
Speaker 14: It's just a really love to be able to do

771
00:41:29,933 --> 00:41:31,733
Speaker 14: for a living, you know, like it's like we still

772
00:41:32,093 --> 00:41:35,213
Speaker 14: love music, you know where music file files sort first

773
00:41:35,253 --> 00:41:37,773
Speaker 14: and foremost and so and then partly it's just that

774
00:41:37,813 --> 00:41:40,333
Speaker 14: sort of I think we grew up, like I said

775
00:41:40,373 --> 00:41:41,893
Speaker 14: one did, but for us in that kind of the

776
00:41:41,933 --> 00:41:44,133
Speaker 14: weekend was such a key part of our experience.

777
00:41:44,173 --> 00:41:44,333
Speaker 7: You know.

778
00:41:44,453 --> 00:41:46,773
Speaker 14: Peteng used to say welcome to the weekend on a Friday,

779
00:41:46,773 --> 00:41:48,813
Speaker 14: and that was just like what everything was about. And

780
00:41:48,853 --> 00:41:51,373
Speaker 14: I still feel like I live in that rhythm a bit.

781
00:41:51,413 --> 00:41:54,173
Speaker 14: You know, I can't quite imagine not having the odd

782
00:41:54,173 --> 00:41:56,333
Speaker 14: adventure on a weekend. So this this is a great

783
00:41:56,333 --> 00:41:58,173
Speaker 14: way of doing that and getting paid for as well.

784
00:41:58,213 --> 00:41:58,893
Speaker 15: So it's perfect.

785
00:41:59,213 --> 00:42:01,493
Speaker 3: It's amazing how much music has changed in the last

786
00:42:01,693 --> 00:42:03,893
Speaker 3: you know, in the last few decades. Obviously, with the

787
00:42:04,213 --> 00:42:07,813
Speaker 3: digital revolution, the tools that are available to artists and

788
00:42:07,933 --> 00:42:12,773
Speaker 3: musicians have massively expanded. How do you, guys reflect on

789
00:42:12,893 --> 00:42:15,333
Speaker 3: the music that you were making in those early years

790
00:42:15,613 --> 00:42:18,813
Speaker 3: with the kind of tools that are accessible for artists

791
00:42:18,853 --> 00:42:21,173
Speaker 3: these days, Well.

792
00:42:21,093 --> 00:42:23,613
Speaker 16: It has completely changed, what you're saying, And like all things,

793
00:42:23,693 --> 00:42:26,413
Speaker 16: there are good bits and bad bits, you know. So

794
00:42:26,533 --> 00:42:28,813
Speaker 16: the idea that you can make a sort of professionally

795
00:42:28,853 --> 00:42:32,373
Speaker 16: rendered recording without out leaving your bedroom or actually without

796
00:42:32,413 --> 00:42:34,293
Speaker 16: leaving your bed in a lot of instances, is kind

797
00:42:34,293 --> 00:42:37,893
Speaker 16: of amazing and liberating. On the other hand, looking back

798
00:42:37,933 --> 00:42:41,253
Speaker 16: on some of the early music we made, restriction on

799
00:42:41,413 --> 00:42:45,493
Speaker 16: options is a very creative force, and I think making

800
00:42:45,613 --> 00:42:49,573
Speaker 16: music in the world where everything is unlimited choice is

801
00:42:49,693 --> 00:42:50,693
Speaker 16: quite challenging.

802
00:42:50,773 --> 00:42:50,933
Speaker 2: You know.

803
00:42:51,133 --> 00:42:54,093
Speaker 16: I watched my son do it, and we wrestle with

804
00:42:54,133 --> 00:42:55,813
Speaker 16: it a little bit now as well, though we haven't

805
00:42:55,853 --> 00:42:58,933
Speaker 16: quite got all the plugins that he has. But yeah,

806
00:42:58,933 --> 00:43:01,573
Speaker 16: it's not always more, is not always better?

807
00:43:01,693 --> 00:43:04,653
Speaker 3: Can you explain that to me, explain the restrictions sometimes

808
00:43:04,693 --> 00:43:07,773
Speaker 3: being creatively beneficial thing.

809
00:43:08,653 --> 00:43:11,413
Speaker 16: Well, like you take out the river for example, we're

810
00:43:11,493 --> 00:43:15,893
Speaker 16: defining tune for us. So that happened because we'd gone

811
00:43:15,933 --> 00:43:17,893
Speaker 16: off to the middle of nowhere to get some piece

812
00:43:17,933 --> 00:43:19,653
Speaker 16: and quiet to write a few tunes to promote some

813
00:43:19,733 --> 00:43:23,373
Speaker 16: London parties. And we went down the shop to buy

814
00:43:23,373 --> 00:43:25,493
Speaker 16: some beers and potato waffles, which was our kind of

815
00:43:25,613 --> 00:43:28,893
Speaker 16: daily Russian, and on the counter was a CD that

816
00:43:29,013 --> 00:43:31,773
Speaker 16: was Sounds of the fifties Americana, and we threw that

817
00:43:31,853 --> 00:43:35,053
Speaker 16: in the heap on the on the sort of off

818
00:43:35,133 --> 00:43:38,293
Speaker 16: chance there might be some samples on there, and they

819
00:43:38,333 --> 00:43:40,653
Speaker 16: had this song by Patty Page called Old Cape cod

820
00:43:40,693 --> 00:43:43,453
Speaker 16: really lovely tune, really nice cards. I had my trombone

821
00:43:43,453 --> 00:43:44,853
Speaker 16: with me because I was still making a living at

822
00:43:44,893 --> 00:43:47,213
Speaker 16: the time from playing jazzkig, so I needed to practice,

823
00:43:47,613 --> 00:43:51,093
Speaker 16: so we copied the cords. I was practicing the trombone, thought, oh,

824
00:43:51,133 --> 00:43:53,013
Speaker 16: you know, that sounds quite nice. How can we remember

825
00:43:53,013 --> 00:43:55,653
Speaker 16: that we had no microphone, but there were some speakers

826
00:43:55,653 --> 00:43:57,653
Speaker 16: in the cottage and if you flip the wires on

827
00:43:57,653 --> 00:44:00,693
Speaker 16: the speaker, it becomes a microphone. So we take those two.

828
00:44:00,733 --> 00:44:04,133
Speaker 16: A guitar lead managed to record the trombone and then

829
00:44:04,813 --> 00:44:07,453
Speaker 16: on the sample at the time computer at that point,

830
00:44:08,013 --> 00:44:09,733
Speaker 16: so you have a tiny amount of memories. You can

831
00:44:09,813 --> 00:44:12,173
Speaker 16: only only use little snippets of the vocal, so you've

832
00:44:12,173 --> 00:44:17,293
Speaker 16: got celloitate microphones, snippets of vocal, two string noises to

833
00:44:17,373 --> 00:44:20,013
Speaker 16: choose from, on the synthesizer, on one bass sound. The

834
00:44:20,053 --> 00:44:22,533
Speaker 16: whole thing's done in forty five minutes, and so I

835
00:44:22,533 --> 00:44:24,853
Speaker 16: think it means that you focus on the idea rather

836
00:44:24,933 --> 00:44:27,013
Speaker 16: than the sounds, rather than getting obsessed with the sounds

837
00:44:27,053 --> 00:44:28,453
Speaker 16: when you haven't got a great idea.

838
00:44:28,573 --> 00:44:33,133
Speaker 3: It's the it's the classic Keith Jarrett Coln concert dichotomy.

839
00:44:33,173 --> 00:44:35,293
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if you guys are familiar with that story,

840
00:44:35,373 --> 00:44:40,533
Speaker 3: but Keith Jarrett, playing improvisational jazz on a piano, played

841
00:44:40,573 --> 00:44:44,253
Speaker 3: perhaps his greatest ever gig on a piano that wasn't

842
00:44:44,293 --> 00:44:46,773
Speaker 3: tuned properly and the top keys and the low keys

843
00:44:46,813 --> 00:44:49,053
Speaker 3: had to be absolutely smashed to get any noise out

844
00:44:49,053 --> 00:44:52,253
Speaker 3: of it. And consequently, by having to think outside the square,

845
00:44:52,293 --> 00:44:55,173
Speaker 3: it kind of sparked a creativity that might not have

846
00:44:55,213 --> 00:44:58,213
Speaker 3: otherwise been sparked, which is amazing. Yeah, that is quite

847
00:44:58,213 --> 00:45:01,893
Speaker 3: remarkable that the human creativity can work in that way.

848
00:45:02,093 --> 00:45:05,853
Speaker 3: Do you think that that electronic music and that dance

849
00:45:05,933 --> 00:45:13,893
Speaker 3: music is particularly susceptible to AI and the changes that

850
00:45:13,893 --> 00:45:16,453
Speaker 3: that technology is going to mean for our societies.

851
00:45:18,213 --> 00:45:19,693
Speaker 15: I think, to some extent it might be.

852
00:45:19,933 --> 00:45:22,693
Speaker 14: But I also think that sort of you know, great

853
00:45:22,773 --> 00:45:25,213
Speaker 14: dance music, like any form of music, will always out,

854
00:45:25,293 --> 00:45:27,653
Speaker 14: you know, the stuff that really deserves to be that

855
00:45:27,733 --> 00:45:28,813
Speaker 14: sounds distinct.

856
00:45:28,493 --> 00:45:31,013
Speaker 15: And brilliant, Like, you know, AI is not going to.

857
00:45:31,053 --> 00:45:31,813
Speaker 2: Take the half punk.

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Speaker 14: You know that A is probably not going to create

859
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Speaker 14: ology either, like these kind of really unusual collisions of sound.

860
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Speaker 14: I still think that'll be fine, But yeah, there probably

861
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Speaker 14: is a kind of dirge of wish wash kind of

862
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Speaker 14: you know, cocktail lounges dance music at one nineteen beats

863
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Speaker 14: a minute that AI is going to knock out pretty successfully.

864
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Speaker 15: But now that's going to change the world.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, at least there's like a frision or a magic

866
00:45:54,813 --> 00:45:58,733
Speaker 3: that maybe still comes from the human element or the types.

867
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Speaker 3: At the very least you're listen to Newstalks, did the

868
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Speaker 3: Jack Taim speaking with Tom and Andy who makeup Groove

869
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Speaker 3: Our Mader The March shows How important are collaborations for

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Speaker 3: you guys from a creative perspective in particular, how has

871
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Speaker 3: that helped to maintain the magic that you get from

872
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Speaker 3: creating music.

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Speaker 16: I think it's been been critical, you know, I mean

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Speaker 16: the and just an amazing privilege to spend time, you know,

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Speaker 16: in studios sometimes tour buses on stage with people like

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Speaker 16: Candy Staton, Richie Richie Haven's, Nana Cherry and a whole

877
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Speaker 16: host of other people, and you know, there's just something

878
00:46:38,693 --> 00:46:41,453
Speaker 16: about that. It's just such an exciting moment when you're

879
00:46:41,493 --> 00:46:45,213
Speaker 16: making music and you and you come up with with

880
00:46:45,213 --> 00:46:48,293
Speaker 16: with a lovely kind of sonic pad, and then you

881
00:46:48,333 --> 00:46:50,613
Speaker 16: send that off to someone, or you work with someone

882
00:46:50,653 --> 00:46:53,453
Speaker 16: in the studio and guide them a little bit and

883
00:46:53,533 --> 00:46:55,813
Speaker 16: you and you get a load of vocal ideas, and

884
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Speaker 16: in amongst it all, I think what we've always been

885
00:46:58,133 --> 00:47:00,693
Speaker 16: quite good at is having the antennae to say that

886
00:47:00,813 --> 00:47:03,573
Speaker 16: bit there, and that moment where you hear the bit

887
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Speaker 16: in the vocal with those particular chord changes and just

888
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Speaker 16: the hairs go up on the back of your neck

889
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Speaker 16: and you build it all around that. You know, that's

890
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Speaker 16: that's a magical thing. So getting that input from people

891
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Speaker 16: of that caliber to work with has been amazing.

892
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Speaker 3: Is it just a case of trusting your gap?

893
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Speaker 2: What else is there?

894
00:47:22,253 --> 00:47:22,533
Speaker 3: Really?

895
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Speaker 16: I mean, it's like either you feel it or you

896
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Speaker 16: don't feel I think one of the lovely things about

897
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Speaker 16: Tom and I work it together so long is that

898
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Speaker 16: it will be completely unspoken and we're working on a

899
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Speaker 16: tune and it's gone a bit too far my way

900
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Speaker 16: or Tom's way, and we won't even have to say

901
00:47:40,773 --> 00:47:45,653
Speaker 16: it directly, but there'll be a mainly unspoken exchange that

902
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Speaker 16: goes on there until eventually it ends up in the

903
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Speaker 16: groove Armada lane. It's a pretty wide lane, but it's

904
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Speaker 16: also it's a very distinctive blend of where both of

905
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Speaker 16: us are happy.

906
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Speaker 3: How do you distinguish between each of those respective ways

907
00:47:59,133 --> 00:48:00,853
Speaker 3: your weigh and Tom's way?

908
00:48:02,013 --> 00:48:04,293
Speaker 16: These are things that you just can't really put into words,

909
00:48:04,533 --> 00:48:07,053
Speaker 16: you know, But but you know when whenever we go

910
00:48:07,133 --> 00:48:12,173
Speaker 16: into these situations, like I'm already knowing what Tom's feeling

911
00:48:12,213 --> 00:48:15,293
Speaker 16: about it, and the same will be true the other

912
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Speaker 16: way around. And it's these unspoken trade offs, I think,

913
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Speaker 16: which mean that despite having wildly eclectic styles across the albums,

914
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Speaker 16: there's something about it all, which says groove Im.

915
00:48:26,293 --> 00:48:28,973
Speaker 3: Tom, You're trying to be a CBT therapist, right to

916
00:48:28,973 --> 00:48:29,653
Speaker 3: tell us about that?

917
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Speaker 14: Well, yeah, I'm doing I'm practicing as a CBT therapist now,

918
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Speaker 14: so well I'm more of a counselor now. But I

919
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Speaker 14: work at a university in London called King's College London,

920
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Speaker 14: so I do that, yeah, three days a week and

921
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Speaker 14: it works really well. Actually it's like I just came

922
00:48:46,333 --> 00:48:49,173
Speaker 14: back from work today and it was really lovely day

923
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Speaker 14: actually what with students and had some really interesting conversations

924
00:48:52,613 --> 00:48:55,853
Speaker 14: and then but they're really supportive of me, and you know,

925
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Speaker 14: like when I tell them I'm going off to Australian

926
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Speaker 14: New Zealand.

927
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Speaker 15: To do some dates, they're always really behind it. So

928
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Speaker 15: it's that perfect.

929
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Speaker 14: But it's been a really lovely thing to do, and

930
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Speaker 14: I particularly love this population now.

931
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Speaker 15: Originally in the NHS, you.

932
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Speaker 14: Know, the National Health Service, which was which was good,

933
00:49:11,253 --> 00:49:13,893
Speaker 14: but I started doing time then during the pandemic so

934
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Speaker 14: it was kind of pretty stressful for lots of different reasons.

935
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Speaker 14: But now I'm sort of you know, working with students,

936
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Speaker 14: a really interesting group of people, and no one got

937
00:49:22,453 --> 00:49:24,573
Speaker 14: any clue what I do for a side hustle.

938
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Speaker 15: It's really nice.

939
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Speaker 3: Yeah, what was the attraction about about CBT therapy in particular,

940
00:49:30,773 --> 00:49:32,853
Speaker 3: because it seems, I mean, it seems like a fascinating

941
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Speaker 3: thing to be involved with.

942
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Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean there's there's you know, like I think

943
00:49:38,933 --> 00:49:41,373
Speaker 14: I struggled with my mental health. I was quite depressed

944
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Speaker 14: about fifteen years ago, and I think at that time

945
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Speaker 14: there wasn't the kind of conversations going on about about

946
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Speaker 14: mental health, particularly in the music industry. There are now,

947
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Speaker 14: and I really think they're great, and people are much

948
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Speaker 14: more open about talking about that.

949
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Speaker 15: So I I am just personally, CBT was quite effective

950
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Speaker 15: for me.

951
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Speaker 7: You know.

952
00:49:58,173 --> 00:50:01,453
Speaker 14: It's about kind of essentially saying that your thoughts or

953
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Speaker 14: opinions they're not facts, you know, in finding more adaptive,

954
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Speaker 14: healthy way to relate to your thoughts, you know.

955
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Speaker 15: And I found that was really useful for me.

956
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Speaker 14: Actually these days I do a bit more than just CBT,

957
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Speaker 14: but it.

958
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Speaker 15: Really spoke to me and it was usually helpful for me.

959
00:50:17,213 --> 00:50:19,573
Speaker 14: Luckily, I've been really good since then, you know, and

960
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Speaker 14: actually a lot of techniques I've taken from that are

961
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Speaker 14: really helpful when I'm out on the road and I'm

962
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Speaker 14: under probably a bit more stress and I would be normally.

963
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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh that's fantastic. And Andy, we've seen you with

964
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Speaker 3: mister Clarkson and hopefully when you're in New Zealand you

965
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Speaker 3: might even have a bit of an opportunity to tour

966
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Speaker 3: around here. But tell us about your involvement with regenerative farming,

967
00:50:39,173 --> 00:50:43,933
Speaker 3: because yeah, I know that's an area that many of

968
00:50:43,973 --> 00:50:47,533
Speaker 3: our listeners are increasingly interested and it's quite remarkable.

969
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Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean it started on the way back from

970
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Speaker 16: a gig when I read an article about the environmental

971
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Speaker 16: consequences of food production. I hadn't thought about it much

972
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Speaker 16: of the time, but it had a line in there

973
00:50:59,333 --> 00:51:01,653
Speaker 16: which said, if you don't like the system, don't depend

974
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Speaker 16: on it.

975
00:51:02,453 --> 00:51:03,733
Speaker 2: So I began and all this.

976
00:51:03,653 --> 00:51:05,213
Speaker 16: You know, coming in cold of a plant of the

977
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Speaker 16: seed in my life, trying to grow some vegetables for

978
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Speaker 16: the family, and you can only really describe it as

979
00:51:09,653 --> 00:51:13,933
Speaker 16: a spectacular sized rabbit hole. That led to me selling

980
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Speaker 16: my publishing rights to finance a farm in France, getting

981
00:51:17,093 --> 00:51:20,933
Speaker 16: a very humbling lesson in how hard it is to

982
00:51:20,973 --> 00:51:23,133
Speaker 16: be a farm and the range of skills required, how

983
00:51:23,173 --> 00:51:26,413
Speaker 16: hard it is to replace a system that we've developed,

984
00:51:26,413 --> 00:51:29,133
Speaker 16: you know, for good reason originally, but a food production

985
00:51:29,253 --> 00:51:32,933
Speaker 16: based on chemistry the suppressors nature with one based on

986
00:51:33,013 --> 00:51:36,773
Speaker 16: biology that collaborates with nature. But also that when we

987
00:51:36,813 --> 00:51:39,933
Speaker 16: do do that, you know, the solutions to our health,

988
00:51:39,973 --> 00:51:45,013
Speaker 16: bio diversity, climate crisis they're all there. And having seen that,

989
00:51:45,333 --> 00:51:47,573
Speaker 16: it became a mission that I couldn't let go of.

990
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Speaker 16: So now in the UK, under the name Wild Farmed,

991
00:51:51,173 --> 00:51:52,773
Speaker 16: we have a business that works with one hundred and

992
00:51:52,813 --> 00:51:55,573
Speaker 16: fifty farmers and trying to get food from these farming

993
00:51:55,573 --> 00:51:58,493
Speaker 16: systems onto the high street so that every day people

994
00:51:58,533 --> 00:52:00,853
Speaker 16: can make these choices and feel empowered to do so.

995
00:52:01,533 --> 00:52:04,013
Speaker 3: Well, gentlemen, it is a real pleasure to speak. We

996
00:52:04,133 --> 00:52:06,973
Speaker 3: very much appreciate you giving us your time. Cannot wait

997
00:52:07,013 --> 00:52:08,773
Speaker 3: to have you in New Zealand. Thank you so much,

998
00:52:08,853 --> 00:52:09,573
Speaker 3: Tom and Andy.

999
00:52:10,053 --> 00:52:12,053
Speaker 15: Thanks hello, Jach So you soon, catch you.

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Speaker 3: Soon, catch you very soon. In fact, Groove Armada are

1001
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Speaker 3: in New Zealand for a four date tour, so they're

1002
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Speaker 3: going to be at Gardens Music Festival in Auckland's Domain

1003
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Speaker 3: next weekend. They're then going to Queenstown, christ Church and Wellington.

1004
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Speaker 3: So all of the details for Groove Armada's shows are

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Speaker 3: going to be on the news Talks he'db website News

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Speaker 3: talks heb dot co dot zed Ford slash Jack is

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Speaker 3: the best place to go for everything from our show

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Speaker 3: before eleven o'clock on news Talks heedb our Man and

1009
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Speaker 3: the Garden has some tips for helping to breed monarch butterflies.

1010
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Speaker 3: And next up, we've got your screen time picks for

1011
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Speaker 3: this weekend, including the brand new season of White Lotus.

1012
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Speaker 3: Right now, it's twenty one minutes past ten.

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Speaker 1: Start your weekend off in style. Saturday Mornings with Jack

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Speaker 2: Use talks edb hey.

1017
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Speaker 3: So texts and emails this morning, including this one, Jack,

1018
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Speaker 3: congratulations on the new baby. When you're thinking of baby names,

1019
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Speaker 3: might I suggest Damien. Damien is a great name. This

1020
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Speaker 3: is probably going to come as a great surprise that

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Speaker 3: that was sent to us by Damien. Jack. Nicknames are

1022
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Speaker 3: for character, but proper names have meaning. If Archibald has

1023
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Speaker 3: no character, he will never be Billy Bob. Yeah, but

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Speaker 3: a wisdom and that ninety two ninety two. If you

1025
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Speaker 3: want to send us a message this morning twenty four

1026
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Speaker 3: past ten, which means it's screen time time on Newstalks.

1027
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Speaker 3: Zedb Tara awards our screen Time Expert every time every week.

1028
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Speaker 3: At this time, she has for us her three shows

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Speaker 3: to recommend for watching or streaming at home.

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Speaker 9: More in Natara, More in a Jet, and congratulations on

1031
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Speaker 9: the birth of your baby. That's such lovely news. And

1032
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Speaker 9: I hope you've got lots of good TV shows lined

1033
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Speaker 9: up to keep you going through this late night early

1034
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Speaker 9: morning sessions.

1035
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, we've already done a few bit of watching,

1036
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Speaker 3: although my wife was concerned that he was less than

1037
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Speaker 3: seventy two hours old and seemed to be watching an

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Speaker 3: awful amount of cricket. She thought relative to relative to

1039
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Speaker 3: go on exactly exactly. Anyway, three shows that we might

1040
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Speaker 3: be able to watch a stream at home over the

1041
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Speaker 3: next few weeks. Let's start off with the show streaming

1042
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Speaker 3: on Netflix. Tell us about Robert de Niro in Zero

1043
00:54:17,133 --> 00:54:18,893
Speaker 3: Day Here.

1044
00:54:18,933 --> 00:54:22,053
Speaker 9: This is a big new political thriller series that's just

1045
00:54:22,053 --> 00:54:24,253
Speaker 9: come to Netflix, and it stars Robert de Niro in

1046
00:54:24,293 --> 00:54:28,213
Speaker 9: his first major TV role, and he's going straight to

1047
00:54:28,253 --> 00:54:31,613
Speaker 9: the top. He's playing an American president who is hauled

1048
00:54:31,613 --> 00:54:34,853
Speaker 9: out of retirement after a major cyber attack on America

1049
00:54:35,053 --> 00:54:38,893
Speaker 9: leads to thousands of deaths and the country is thrown

1050
00:54:38,933 --> 00:54:42,053
Speaker 9: into chaos. And Robert De Niro's character has given these

1051
00:54:42,173 --> 00:54:45,853
Speaker 9: huge powers to lead the investigation into what happened. But

1052
00:54:46,533 --> 00:54:49,533
Speaker 9: the deeper he digs, the more lies and cover up

1053
00:54:49,653 --> 00:54:53,093
Speaker 9: he finds, and the question comes is he actually the

1054
00:54:53,213 --> 00:54:55,413
Speaker 9: right man for the job or is he being set

1055
00:54:55,493 --> 00:54:58,213
Speaker 9: up to fail? You know, who can he trust as

1056
00:54:58,253 --> 00:55:00,973
Speaker 9: America falls apart in front of him? Now, this series

1057
00:55:01,053 --> 00:55:04,613
Speaker 9: was made before Trump became president again, but there's no

1058
00:55:04,653 --> 00:55:06,813
Speaker 9: doubt that it does feel quite timely in terms of

1059
00:55:07,173 --> 00:55:11,533
Speaker 9: misinformation and people not trusting the government and conspiracy theories.

1060
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Speaker 9: But I don't want to overeg it. This is very

1061
00:55:14,293 --> 00:55:19,093
Speaker 9: much a bingeable Netflix conspiracy thriller. Probably a lot more

1062
00:55:19,133 --> 00:55:22,013
Speaker 9: talking in this than it is a big action, fast

1063
00:55:22,013 --> 00:55:25,213
Speaker 9: paced drama. You know, it is a bit formulaic, a

1064
00:55:25,213 --> 00:55:28,613
Speaker 9: bit predictable, but I think there's more than enough happen

1065
00:55:28,693 --> 00:55:32,013
Speaker 9: here to keep you watching for all six episodes. Denero

1066
00:55:32,133 --> 00:55:36,253
Speaker 9: is great and surrounded by actors like Jesse Plemons, Angela Bassett,

1067
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Speaker 9: Joan Allen, Connie Britton is an amazing cast in that

1068
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Speaker 9: you know, it's a blockbuster kind of conspiracy thriller and

1069
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Speaker 9: you won't have to think too hard about it. It's

1070
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Speaker 9: great for a weekend watch.

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Speaker 3: Nice. Okay, cool, that sounds really good. That's Zero Day.

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Speaker 3: That's on Netflix, starring Robert de Niro. Next up on

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Speaker 3: Disney Plus tell Us about a Thousand Blows.

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Speaker 9: This is a new historical drama about boxing and it's

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00:55:59,333 --> 00:56:02,733
Speaker 9: been created by Stephen Knight, who made the show Peaky Blinders.

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Speaker 9: So if you love the sense of time and place

1077
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Speaker 9: that peaky his hands mixed in with some gritty, colorful drama,

1078
00:56:09,973 --> 00:56:12,373
Speaker 9: then this is the show for you. It's set in

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Speaker 9: London in the East End in the eighteen eighties, and

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Speaker 9: it centers around an illegal boxing ring in the back

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Speaker 9: of a pub and walks to young friends who have

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Speaker 9: just arrived that day from Jamaica and they get pulled

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Speaker 9: into this underground boxing world where there are no rules

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00:56:27,853 --> 00:56:30,653
Speaker 9: and everyone is just trying to survive, and so you

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00:56:30,813 --> 00:56:33,693
Speaker 9: see the city through their eyes. But there's a lot

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00:56:33,733 --> 00:56:36,293
Speaker 9: going on in this show. You've also got this all

1087
00:56:36,493 --> 00:56:39,853
Speaker 9: female bunch of pickpockets who work the town, and you've

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Speaker 9: got the owner of the pub, a guy called Henry Sugar,

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00:56:42,333 --> 00:56:46,253
Speaker 9: who is a bare knuckle boxing champion. He's a pretty

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Speaker 9: terrifying kind of guy and played by Stephen Graham, who

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00:56:49,973 --> 00:56:52,933
Speaker 9: never does a bad TV show in my opinion. So

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Speaker 9: this show grabbed me right from the start. I came

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00:56:55,053 --> 00:56:57,293
Speaker 9: to this thinking, you know, boxing drama. I don't know

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00:56:57,333 --> 00:57:01,253
Speaker 9: about this, but it pulled me in straightaway. Beautiful costumes,

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00:57:01,333 --> 00:57:06,373
Speaker 9: big energy, intriguing characters. It's inspired by real life people

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00:57:06,533 --> 00:57:08,613
Speaker 9: and experiences, and then just kind of takes that and

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Speaker 9: runs with it. The boxing scenes can get quite brutal,

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Speaker 9: but there's just so much else here going on to

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Speaker 9: love as well.

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Speaker 3: Oh fantastic. Okay, that's a thousand blows from the maker

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00:57:18,053 --> 00:57:21,253
Speaker 3: of Peaky Blinders. So that's on Disney Plus. And finally,

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Speaker 3: this is the very controversial new music behind White Lotus.

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00:57:33,373 --> 00:57:36,773
Speaker 3: White Lotus in the first two seasons had that amazing

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00:57:36,893 --> 00:57:39,093
Speaker 3: theme song that was kind of just a little bit

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Speaker 3: like unsettling or off putting. There was something about it,

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00:57:42,413 --> 00:57:44,933
Speaker 3: just some little kind of chordal difference that made things

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00:57:44,933 --> 00:57:47,413
Speaker 3: there's a little bit different and kind of distinguished it

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Speaker 3: from lots of shows. So anyway, White Lotus season three

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Speaker 3: has a new theme song and a new location. It's

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Speaker 3: out streaming on Neon now tell us about it.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, a lot of people sort of split about the

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00:58:00,013 --> 00:58:02,053
Speaker 9: new theme song, whether you know, they were sort of

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00:58:02,093 --> 00:58:05,933
Speaker 9: expecting that offset version but then got this very new

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Speaker 9: quite di one.

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Speaker 7: But yeah.

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Speaker 9: This is the third season of HBO's The White Lotus,

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00:58:11,573 --> 00:58:14,093
Speaker 9: which is a dark satire. It's been created and written

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Speaker 9: by Mike White, who has always been very interested in

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Speaker 9: the intricacies and layers of human behavior. And each season

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Speaker 9: of The White Lotus is set in a five star

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Speaker 9: luxury resort. This season it's in Thailand, and it's about

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Speaker 9: a group of wealthy people who stay at the hotel

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Speaker 9: and the staff who have to cater to their every

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Speaker 9: whim and it kind of skewers all the terrible behavior

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Speaker 9: of the rich and the privileged and the power and

1126
00:58:40,413 --> 00:58:43,453
Speaker 9: class systems that it's all built on. And every season

1127
00:58:43,453 --> 00:58:45,333
Speaker 9: starts with a murder, and then we go back in

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Speaker 9: time and try and work out which one of these

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00:58:47,613 --> 00:58:51,253
Speaker 9: characters has been murdered and why, And they're all pretty awful,

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Speaker 9: but it's a brilliant drama. I must admit I don't

1131
00:58:54,653 --> 00:58:57,013
Speaker 9: always know what's going on in The White Lotus. I

1132
00:58:57,093 --> 00:58:58,573
Speaker 9: kind of go along for the ride a lot of

1133
00:58:58,573 --> 00:59:01,773
Speaker 9: the time, but it's very sharp, very clever and beautifully

1134
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Speaker 9: made as well. And this season, New Zealand actor Wilgana

1135
00:59:04,733 --> 00:59:07,493
Speaker 9: O'Reilly is starring in the show, which is huge to

1136
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Speaker 9: be part of such an award winning show with this

1137
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Speaker 9: big international cast and she was fantastic in the first episode.

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Speaker 9: So I love White Lotus. It said's so great to.

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Speaker 12: Have it back.

1140
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I really cannot wait to watch that. Thank

1141
00:59:18,333 --> 00:59:20,613
Speaker 3: you so much, Tara. Those shows for you once again.

1142
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Speaker 3: Zero Day is on Netflix, A Thousand Blows is on

1143
00:59:24,133 --> 00:59:27,613
Speaker 3: Disney Plus and White Lotus season three is streaming now

1144
00:59:27,813 --> 00:59:40,293
Speaker 3: on Neon. It has just gone ten thirty.

1145
00:59:36,453 --> 00:59:40,373
Speaker 1: Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack Team

1146
00:59:40,813 --> 00:59:41,653
Speaker 1: on News Talks.

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00:59:41,773 --> 00:59:48,653
Speaker 17: EDB know, sheinos, I'm not on luskin you're fulsing maybe

1148
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Speaker 17: or she still hopes to get me. I know, sheinos,

1149
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Speaker 17: I'm not on luscle you'reful seaming.

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Speaker 3: Ah watch. I was there. If there was a weekend

1151
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Speaker 3: not to be able to go to a music festival,

1152
01:00:10,933 --> 01:00:13,253
Speaker 3: this is probably it for me, unfortunately, but I'm missing

1153
01:00:13,333 --> 01:00:16,333
Speaker 3: out because it is the biggest party in Australasia. Electric

1154
01:00:16,333 --> 01:00:20,613
Speaker 3: av kicked off in the three Auto Tuhi christ Church yesterday.

1155
01:00:20,893 --> 01:00:23,973
Speaker 3: It's celebrating its tenth year and tens of thousands of

1156
01:00:24,013 --> 01:00:27,253
Speaker 3: people came together in the rain at Hackley Park yesterday

1157
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Speaker 3: with the same number expected today for day two. And

1158
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Speaker 3: when we say big, we mean big. At Electric AV

1159
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Speaker 3: they've got about sixty acts, five stages. It's like a

1160
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Speaker 3: seventeen hour music marathon. And some of the names they

1161
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Speaker 3: have attracted to Electric Avenue this year, My goodness, you

1162
01:00:42,973 --> 01:00:47,333
Speaker 3: got the Prodigy, Chasing Status, Empire of the Sun, lab Tas, Shultana,

1163
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Speaker 3: shape Shifter and Wilkinson amongst some of the big names

1164
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Speaker 3: including that included in that lineup these guys. Of course,

1165
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Speaker 3: the coops are playing there. Not bad quickview fun facts

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Speaker 3: for Electric AaB view. They've got one hundred and eighty

1167
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Speaker 3: thousand square meters for the Sight Era with those five stages,

1168
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Speaker 3: that's about twenty rugby pictures, six hundred porn loos in action,

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Speaker 3: more than five k's of fencing. They've spent four hundred

1170
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Speaker 3: grand on security, five million dollars on the artist fees

1171
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Speaker 3: and there are two hundred and thirty crew working Electric

1172
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Speaker 3: AV this weekend. Anyway, before midday, we're going to take

1173
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Speaker 3: your live to Electric Avenue and christ Chris Schultz is

1174
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Speaker 3: there for the weekend is partying along. He texted us

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Speaker 3: to say that yesterday alone he did thirty thousand steps

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Speaker 3: at Electric AV, so he's hopefully had a bit of

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Speaker 3: time to recharge for day two. Before eleven o'clock on

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Speaker 3: news doorg z'db though, we will be sharing with you

1179
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Speaker 3: some tips for bredy monarch butterflies in your backyard, and

1180
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Speaker 3: for everyone enjoying the moshpit at Electric AV. Doctor Brian

1181
01:01:49,333 --> 01:01:51,973
Speaker 3: Betty is here with his top tips on recovering from

1182
01:01:52,093 --> 01:01:55,733
Speaker 3: sprained ankles. Next up, though, our texperts in that's twenty

1183
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Speaker 3: five to eleven.

1184
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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers the MC asking Breakfast.

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Speaker 18: The troubles in New Zealand have been having played out

1186
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Speaker 18: in number form yesterday as a half years old release,

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Speaker 18: profits down eighteen percent to one hundred and six million

1188
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Speaker 18: in New Zealand's tub Executive Greek four and isbek whe

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Speaker 18: this's what's your biggest problem? The engines or the new

1190
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Speaker 18: planes you aren't getting?

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Speaker 12: Primarily, I would say the engines firs stuck. We're heading

1192
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Speaker 12: into a period mic where we're going to have eleven

1193
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Speaker 12: of our aircraft done available, it's going to be about

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Speaker 12: seven thousand seats a day. We have to cover that

1195
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Speaker 12: by bringing in leased aircraft because we just cannot get

1196
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Speaker 12: enough engines out of rolls.

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Speaker 18: Royce and Crawdon went back Monday from six am the

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Speaker 18: mic asking Breakfast with the rain driver bela news talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: Well, the US government had been investigating how crypto currencies

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Speaker 3: were traded, but the new president has meant for some

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01:02:48,653 --> 01:02:51,973
Speaker 3: big changes on the crypto front in the US. Our

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Speaker 3: expert Paul Stenhouse is here with the details. He's a

1203
01:02:54,773 --> 01:02:58,613
Speaker 3: big crypto guy at the best of times. But yeah, well,

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Speaker 3: I mean, if only you had been a big crypto guy, right,

1205
01:03:01,733 --> 01:03:04,613
Speaker 3: because it's a whole lot more today than it was

1206
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Speaker 3: three months ago.

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Speaker 13: I mean I did I did make a little bit

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Speaker 13: of money out.

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Speaker 3: Did you have a mean coin or did you just

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Speaker 3: go with bitcoin?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 13: Just bitcoin. I was just scared to do the others.

1213
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Speaker 13: But I do know people who have made like six

1214
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Speaker 13: figures bitcoin.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, it's pretty.

1216
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Speaker 3: Incredible, well like five grand don't laugh, I mean that's impressive. Yeah,

1217
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Speaker 3: probably a few people have lost money as well. To speak, Paul,

1218
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Speaker 3: but you don't hear about these stories anyway. Anyway.

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Speaker 13: No, So the people used typically is called Coinbase, and

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Speaker 13: Coinbase was the target of the SEC's investigations as the

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Speaker 13: sort of biggest player, and the SEC was sort of

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Speaker 13: looking at the crypto market and saying, this looks a

1223
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Speaker 13: lot like stocks, this looks a lot like bonds, and

1224
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Speaker 13: those types of things typically need to be registered with

1225
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Speaker 13: the FBC. There are very strict rules and regulations about

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Speaker 13: how you sell them, how you don't lock up periods,

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Speaker 13: about information and all sorts of things. And they went

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Speaker 13: pretty similar. And so there was this investigation taking place,

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Speaker 13: and now with President Trump, it seems that that has disappeared.

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Speaker 13: Jack the Coinbase CEO, said that the SEC says that

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Speaker 13: they're going to fully dismiss its investigation. No penalties are

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Speaker 13: applying to it, and it's basically case closed. Here's one

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Speaker 13: thing that's interesting to note. Though Coinbase gave seventy five

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Speaker 13: million dollars to pro crypto packs, they made a seven

1235
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Speaker 13: figure donation to Trump's inaugural committee, and the CEO gave

1236
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Speaker 13: about one point three million dollars in personal contributions.

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Speaker 3: Sure they're not those things aren't related at all, totally

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Speaker 3: independent series of fact. Speaking of the US government and

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Speaker 3: the big changes that are underway. Despite President Trump's close

1240
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Speaker 3: relationship with Elon Muski La Musk of course, being the

1241
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Speaker 3: founder of Tesla, the US government is turning off its

1242
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Speaker 3: EV charges.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, maybe it's because they don't have enough Tesla's and

1244
01:05:05,933 --> 01:05:09,493
Speaker 13: they've got other cars and who knows. But there's a

1245
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Speaker 13: government branch called the General Services Administration that's sort of

1246
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Speaker 13: like the ones who run all the facilities of the government,

1247
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Speaker 13: and they are now starting to shut down turn off

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Speaker 13: all of the EV charges they had started to put

1249
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Speaker 13: in because Biden was on a mission to basically try

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Speaker 13: to get over half a majority of the six hundred

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Speaker 13: and fifty thousand federal vehicles to be evs. And of

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Speaker 13: course if you have evs, you need charges, you need infrastructure.

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Speaker 13: They have basically now said that it is quote not

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Speaker 13: mission critical to be spending time, effort, money on these charges.

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Speaker 13: So instead of just turning them off or letting them

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Speaker 13: break and not fix them, they're actually working to remove

1257
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Speaker 13: those exact things they had already started putting them in.

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Speaker 13: They were talking about sort of eight thousand plugs that

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Speaker 13: were as across the federal government, and they've already started

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Speaker 13: to buy EV's Jack, they've already started to buy fifty

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Speaker 13: eight thousand as of March last year.

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Speaker 3: The late the number was, so.

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Speaker 13: What happens to the cars that they've audited?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 13: Are they going to be sold? Are they going to

1266
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Speaker 13: be put into storage? It seems like a little bit

1267
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Speaker 13: of a waste.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, a lot of changes on that

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Speaker 3: front at the moment. It's hard to keep up, so

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Speaker 3: thank you for bringing those to our attention. Paul, Paul

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Speaker 3: Stenhouse our texpert. There in a couple of minutes, doctor

1272
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Speaker 3: Brian Betti's in with his tips on recovering from sprained

1273
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Speaker 3: ankles and what distinguishes a sprained ankle from other injuries

1274
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Speaker 3: you might have in that department eighteen to eleven on

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Speaker 3: Newstalk ZEDB.

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Speaker 2: A little bit of way to kick off your weekend.

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Speaker 1: Then with Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack, taym and Vpuard

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much for the name suggestions this morning.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations Jack, Special baby boy. Call him John. My husband

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Speaker 3: was John. Whenever we had an argument, he would always say,

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Speaker 3: remember remember John is a gift from God, after all,

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Speaker 3: That's the meaning of the name. Well, you don't need

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01:07:00,893 --> 01:07:04,213
Speaker 3: to tell me, Jill. After all, Jack means John. John

1285
01:07:04,333 --> 01:07:07,093
Speaker 3: is my dad. John is also my grandad, and both

1286
01:07:07,133 --> 01:07:09,493
Speaker 3: of them love to remind me that John means gift

1287
01:07:09,533 --> 01:07:14,493
Speaker 3: of God, gift from God. Gift of God. Yeah, gift

1288
01:07:14,493 --> 01:07:16,893
Speaker 3: from God. I think you're right on that oneety two.

1289
01:07:16,933 --> 01:07:18,413
Speaker 3: If you want to send us a message, Doctor Brian

1290
01:07:18,453 --> 01:07:20,693
Speaker 3: Betty is here with us this morning. Killed de Brian.

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Speaker 19: Oh, cure ob Jack, and congratulations.

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01:07:23,813 --> 01:07:27,813
Speaker 3: Thank you. I was saying earlier. You know, I'm fortunate

1293
01:07:27,813 --> 01:07:29,853
Speaker 3: in life not to actually have heaps of interactions with

1294
01:07:29,853 --> 01:07:31,733
Speaker 3: the health system at the stage of life, you know,

1295
01:07:32,533 --> 01:07:34,493
Speaker 3: And so this is one of the one of the

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01:07:34,533 --> 01:07:37,453
Speaker 3: bigger ones I've had this week. And you know, I

1297
01:07:37,493 --> 01:07:39,933
Speaker 3: know the system is under huge pressure at the moment,

1298
01:07:39,933 --> 01:07:42,253
Speaker 3: but my goodness, it only underscored the kind of respect

1299
01:07:42,293 --> 01:07:46,093
Speaker 3: I have for your colleagues, the nurses, the midwives, the doctors.

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01:07:45,453 --> 01:07:47,573
Speaker 3: That is such a good job.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah, look, I think we've you know, I agree

1302
01:07:50,613 --> 01:07:53,213
Speaker 19: we're under pressure, but we actually have fundamentally a very

1303
01:07:53,213 --> 01:07:54,973
Speaker 19: good health system when it's needed.

1304
01:07:55,133 --> 01:07:55,613
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1305
01:07:55,693 --> 01:07:58,813
Speaker 19: Yeah, that's one of the things that we sometimes do. Forget.

1306
01:07:59,013 --> 01:08:00,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I would say, I had a really

1307
01:08:00,973 --> 01:08:03,533
Speaker 3: positive experience of the health of the Earthier system. Not

1308
01:08:03,573 --> 01:08:05,693
Speaker 3: to say, you know, like not to say, you know,

1309
01:08:05,733 --> 01:08:08,413
Speaker 3: everything was perfect, all the kind of facilities that they

1310
01:08:08,413 --> 01:08:11,013
Speaker 3: had available to the perfect or anything like that, but

1311
01:08:11,053 --> 01:08:12,613
Speaker 3: I just I thought that did such a good job.

1312
01:08:13,013 --> 01:08:16,013
Speaker 3: And my goodness, Like I you know, I knew that

1313
01:08:16,013 --> 01:08:18,933
Speaker 3: we had lots lots of migrant people working in the

1314
01:08:19,013 --> 01:08:22,773
Speaker 3: health care space, but my gosh, it was the people

1315
01:08:22,773 --> 01:08:24,133
Speaker 3: that was like, you know, it was like being in

1316
01:08:24,133 --> 01:08:28,373
Speaker 3: the United Nations. It was amazing. Yeah, and it really

1317
01:08:28,493 --> 01:08:30,693
Speaker 3: and again yeah, I felt we felt so cared for

1318
01:08:30,773 --> 01:08:32,533
Speaker 3: and yeah, it was actually just great to see.

1319
01:08:32,533 --> 01:08:34,853
Speaker 19: So it's really fantastic to hear.

1320
01:08:35,053 --> 01:08:35,293
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:08:35,493 --> 01:08:35,693
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1322
01:08:35,773 --> 01:08:39,053
Speaker 3: Anyway, this morning, we're focusing on sprained ankles, and they

1323
01:08:39,053 --> 01:08:41,733
Speaker 3: are one of the most common injuries that I'm sure

1324
01:08:41,813 --> 01:08:43,573
Speaker 3: you see. What what is a sprained ankle?

1325
01:08:44,413 --> 01:08:47,213
Speaker 19: Yeah, look, so look, it's an injury that occurs when

1326
01:08:47,253 --> 01:08:51,573
Speaker 19: you roll or turn your ankle in an awkward way. Now,

1327
01:08:51,613 --> 01:08:56,093
Speaker 19: the commonest injury we see is we're foot turned inwards

1328
01:08:56,213 --> 01:08:58,613
Speaker 19: and and it strains the outside of the ankle, and

1329
01:08:58,613 --> 01:09:02,733
Speaker 19: we call that an aversion inversion injury, and it damages

1330
01:09:02,773 --> 01:09:05,493
Speaker 19: the structures on the outside of the ankle. Now, the

1331
01:09:05,533 --> 01:09:09,293
Speaker 19: injury itself and you turn the ankle causes strains or

1332
01:09:09,453 --> 01:09:12,333
Speaker 19: tears in what we call the ligaments with the little

1333
01:09:12,453 --> 01:09:16,333
Speaker 19: fibrous ropes that hold the ankle together or tendons, which

1334
01:09:16,373 --> 01:09:20,213
Speaker 19: are again little fibrous sort of ropes that attach muscle

1335
01:09:20,373 --> 01:09:24,173
Speaker 19: two bone, so they staylize the ankle and they fold

1336
01:09:24,213 --> 01:09:26,533
Speaker 19: it in place. So when you when you roll the ankle,

1337
01:09:26,893 --> 01:09:31,053
Speaker 19: they get strained or they can tear, and it causes

1338
01:09:31,573 --> 01:09:33,173
Speaker 19: sometimes quite a bit of problem.

1339
01:09:33,573 --> 01:09:37,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean speak from personal experience here. Yeah, they

1340
01:09:37,453 --> 01:09:39,533
Speaker 3: can be they can be really really rough. So what

1341
01:09:39,933 --> 01:09:42,213
Speaker 3: are the risks of a sprained ankle and the main

1342
01:09:42,293 --> 01:09:43,333
Speaker 3: symptoms obviously a bit.

1343
01:09:43,213 --> 01:09:45,933
Speaker 2: Of swilling, yeah, look, look, looks.

1344
01:09:46,053 --> 01:09:51,253
Speaker 19: Obviously big risk is often sport, so rugby, soccer, hockey, tennis.

1345
01:09:51,493 --> 01:09:53,573
Speaker 19: That's where you get these rolled ankles. You know, someone

1346
01:09:53,573 --> 01:09:56,053
Speaker 19: in the tackle, they go over on the ankle and

1347
01:09:56,053 --> 01:09:59,053
Speaker 19: they have to limp off the field. So obviously sport

1348
01:09:59,093 --> 01:10:01,093
Speaker 19: is a big risk factor, but there's a couple of

1349
01:10:01,173 --> 01:10:05,573
Speaker 19: other hidden ones. So often walking on uneven surfaces, if

1350
01:10:05,573 --> 01:10:07,613
Speaker 19: you're not fit, you're at a greater risk of a

1351
01:10:07,653 --> 01:10:11,653
Speaker 19: sprained ankle. Wearing shoes that don't quite fit that can

1352
01:10:11,693 --> 01:10:14,253
Speaker 19: give you a risk, and if you land awkwardly, if

1353
01:10:14,253 --> 01:10:16,253
Speaker 19: you jump off a step or do something like that

1354
01:10:16,293 --> 01:10:18,853
Speaker 19: will actually cause it. And the other one, which is

1355
01:10:18,933 --> 01:10:22,013
Speaker 19: quite interesting is if you've had a previous sprained ankle,

1356
01:10:22,573 --> 01:10:24,773
Speaker 19: you are more at risk of another sprained ankle of

1357
01:10:24,893 --> 01:10:27,533
Speaker 19: caurim because it does weaken the joints slightly. So it's

1358
01:10:27,573 --> 01:10:29,973
Speaker 19: just something to be aware of now. As you said,

1359
01:10:30,013 --> 01:10:34,533
Speaker 19: the big, big symptom is pain, pain straight away after

1360
01:10:34,573 --> 01:10:37,893
Speaker 19: your roll the ankle, and that's how people can plan on.

1361
01:10:38,373 --> 01:10:41,333
Speaker 19: Often that's really painful to walk on the ankle, and

1362
01:10:41,373 --> 01:10:43,733
Speaker 19: they'll notice them swelling often on the outside of the

1363
01:10:43,733 --> 01:10:46,933
Speaker 19: ankle and bruising starting to develop, and it's very very

1364
01:10:46,973 --> 01:10:50,493
Speaker 19: painful to touch. So that restricted movies sometimes. The other

1365
01:10:50,533 --> 01:10:53,253
Speaker 19: thing that's quite interesting that people describe is a bit

1366
01:10:53,253 --> 01:10:56,573
Speaker 19: of a popping sound or a sensation of popping when

1367
01:10:56,573 --> 01:10:59,653
Speaker 19: they do it, and that's quite common as well.

1368
01:10:59,813 --> 01:11:03,493
Speaker 3: Yeah. I had a really rough sprained ankle about eighteen on,

1369
01:11:03,613 --> 01:11:06,613
Speaker 3: probably about a year ago. Actually I am playing football.

1370
01:11:06,733 --> 01:11:10,133
Speaker 3: I made a heroic tackle, of course, but it was funny.

1371
01:11:10,653 --> 01:11:12,293
Speaker 3: It was just just one of those things where I

1372
01:11:12,493 --> 01:11:14,813
Speaker 3: kind of came into contact with the other player, and

1373
01:11:15,293 --> 01:11:17,973
Speaker 3: I could tell, like I could tell my ankle was

1374
01:11:18,013 --> 01:11:24,013
Speaker 3: smashed before I hit the ground, you know, like you ye,

1375
01:11:24,733 --> 01:11:25,493
Speaker 3: So how do you treat them?

1376
01:11:26,733 --> 01:11:31,613
Speaker 19: Yeah? Look, the immediate treatment is something called rice r C. Now,

1377
01:11:31,693 --> 01:11:34,333
Speaker 19: that is rest, So you need to stay off the

1378
01:11:34,333 --> 01:11:38,053
Speaker 19: ankle for the first forty eight hours. Ice is really

1379
01:11:38,093 --> 01:11:41,173
Speaker 19: really important because ice reduces are swelling. So generally we

1380
01:11:41,253 --> 01:11:44,773
Speaker 19: advise getting some ice onto the sore part of the

1381
01:11:44,813 --> 01:11:48,013
Speaker 19: ankle for about twenty minutes every two hours, and you

1382
01:11:48,093 --> 01:11:50,533
Speaker 19: do that over a two day period. Now, you can

1383
01:11:50,973 --> 01:11:53,413
Speaker 19: use p's out of a freezer, it's fine, a pack

1384
01:11:53,453 --> 01:11:56,093
Speaker 19: of peas, an ice pack, whatever you got, just slap

1385
01:11:56,093 --> 01:11:57,973
Speaker 19: it on for twenty minutes for a couple of hours.

1386
01:11:58,653 --> 01:12:01,253
Speaker 19: Bandage around the ankle is really good because that compresses

1387
01:12:01,293 --> 01:12:03,653
Speaker 19: it because what you're trying to do is stop swelling

1388
01:12:03,693 --> 01:12:06,213
Speaker 19: in the ankle and to elevate and stay off it,

1389
01:12:06,573 --> 01:12:08,773
Speaker 19: keep the ankle up. So those four things are really

1390
01:12:08,773 --> 01:12:13,133
Speaker 19: really important. Plus you can use some paracetamol or panel

1391
01:12:13,413 --> 01:12:15,813
Speaker 19: just for the pain. Now, look, if it's generally, if

1392
01:12:15,853 --> 01:12:18,533
Speaker 19: it's not set or settling in the next fourt out hours,

1393
01:12:18,653 --> 01:12:21,653
Speaker 19: generally you need to see your doctor. We may order

1394
01:12:21,693 --> 01:12:25,173
Speaker 19: an X ray because sometimes you can get small fractures

1395
01:12:25,213 --> 01:12:27,053
Speaker 19: off the bone on the outside of the ankle. We

1396
01:12:27,093 --> 01:12:32,493
Speaker 19: call those abulsion fractures or something more significant. And sometimes

1397
01:12:32,533 --> 01:12:34,933
Speaker 19: we'll get obviously a physio involved because they can do

1398
01:12:35,093 --> 01:12:39,213
Speaker 19: exercises to strengthen the ankle, mobilize the ankle, and actually

1399
01:12:39,213 --> 01:12:42,933
Speaker 19: help with pain with some of the techniques they use. Now,

1400
01:12:43,093 --> 01:12:46,693
Speaker 19: be realistic. It takes up to six weeks to heal,

1401
01:12:46,893 --> 01:12:49,693
Speaker 19: so sometimes it can go on quite a long time,

1402
01:12:50,053 --> 01:12:51,653
Speaker 19: and you need to be realistic and the only other

1403
01:12:51,693 --> 01:12:55,053
Speaker 19: thing to know. If it's very severe, we may use

1404
01:12:55,053 --> 01:12:57,373
Speaker 19: what's called a moon boot, which is like a plastic

1405
01:12:57,453 --> 01:12:59,613
Speaker 19: cast that you can take off and on means you

1406
01:12:59,613 --> 01:13:02,293
Speaker 19: can walk a little bit, but keeps the ankle sort

1407
01:13:02,293 --> 01:13:04,533
Speaker 19: of in position and sort of acts like a cast

1408
01:13:04,773 --> 01:13:06,293
Speaker 19: and helps with the swelling and pain.

1409
01:13:06,413 --> 01:13:08,613
Speaker 3: And what about prevention? How do we stop getting a

1410
01:13:08,613 --> 01:13:09,733
Speaker 3: sprain nkele in the first place?

1411
01:13:12,333 --> 01:13:18,213
Speaker 19: Don't play rugby or soccer. Yeah, look really important before

1412
01:13:18,213 --> 01:13:21,893
Speaker 19: you play sport. Warm up. Okay, we know that actually

1413
01:13:21,893 --> 01:13:27,813
Speaker 19: reduces the risk of injury. Gooden shoes are important and yeah,

1414
01:13:27,853 --> 01:13:31,173
Speaker 19: you've actually mentioned stiletto so high heels are actually a

1415
01:13:31,253 --> 01:13:33,213
Speaker 19: risk for rolling the ankle, and we do see that.

1416
01:13:34,573 --> 01:13:38,733
Speaker 19: It looks staying fit and practicing balance and exercises so

1417
01:13:38,733 --> 01:13:41,173
Speaker 19: often as you get older, things like tye chen that

1418
01:13:41,213 --> 01:13:43,773
Speaker 19: are really really important because actually strengthen the ankle and

1419
01:13:43,813 --> 01:13:45,893
Speaker 19: they help with balance and that can reduce the risk

1420
01:13:45,973 --> 01:13:48,773
Speaker 19: of spraining or turned ankles. So yeah, there's a couple

1421
01:13:48,773 --> 01:13:52,013
Speaker 19: of basic things you can do to try and prevent them.

1422
01:13:52,133 --> 01:13:54,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, very good. Hey, thanks so much, Brian. We will

1423
01:13:54,093 --> 01:13:55,613
Speaker 3: catch you again in a couple of weeks. Stop to

1424
01:13:55,653 --> 01:13:58,173
Speaker 3: Brian Betty there with his tips for us. It's nine

1425
01:13:58,213 --> 01:14:00,293
Speaker 3: to eleven. We're in the garden next on New Storks.

1426
01:14:00,293 --> 01:14:04,053
Speaker 1: He'd be gunning with summer at steel Shaft where it's

1427
01:14:04,053 --> 01:14:05,933
Speaker 1: fall about the accessories to.

1428
01:14:05,853 --> 01:14:08,573
Speaker 3: Eleven on you be a man in the Gardener's Rude

1429
01:14:08,613 --> 01:14:11,453
Speaker 3: Climb Past. He's here today the Rude.

1430
01:14:12,093 --> 01:14:15,893
Speaker 20: Cure Jack and also congratulations on behalf of Julie and myself.

1431
01:14:16,173 --> 01:14:17,373
Speaker 2: It's absolutely beautiful.

1432
01:14:17,493 --> 01:14:19,653
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you. Well, yeah, well we've got a bit

1433
01:14:19,653 --> 01:14:23,733
Speaker 3: of a theme on the show this morning. Breeding is

1434
01:14:23,733 --> 01:14:29,093
Speaker 3: the theme and from the time Household to the Climb Past,

1435
01:14:29,133 --> 01:14:30,693
Speaker 3: garden and monarch butterflies.

1436
01:14:31,853 --> 01:14:33,613
Speaker 20: Yeah, and how they get born and all that.

1437
01:14:35,493 --> 01:14:35,933
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1438
01:14:36,013 --> 01:14:38,013
Speaker 20: I had this feeling this might come up one day

1439
01:14:38,013 --> 01:14:42,013
Speaker 20: and there it is. Yeah, you know, you know, we

1440
01:14:42,053 --> 01:14:44,013
Speaker 20: all know about the monic butterflies and all that sort

1441
01:14:44,053 --> 01:14:48,213
Speaker 20: of stuff, and they have all sorts of troubles when

1442
01:14:48,253 --> 01:14:51,013
Speaker 20: they're in your garden. I mean, sometimes you have not

1443
01:14:51,373 --> 01:14:54,493
Speaker 20: enough food. He's talking about food, you know what I mean.

1444
01:14:55,133 --> 01:14:57,933
Speaker 20: And you know, we we have these things growing as

1445
01:14:58,013 --> 01:15:01,773
Speaker 20: cutterpillars on swamp plants for instance, or a range of

1446
01:15:01,813 --> 01:15:06,093
Speaker 20: different Asclepias species, which are actually quite beautiful. But when

1447
01:15:06,133 --> 01:15:10,213
Speaker 20: they run out of food, that's when things get really tricky.

1448
01:15:10,533 --> 01:15:12,413
Speaker 20: So a lot of people ask what do you do

1449
01:15:12,453 --> 01:15:14,333
Speaker 20: when you haven't gotten a food? Well, first of all,

1450
01:15:14,533 --> 01:15:17,973
Speaker 20: make sure you don't get too many caterpillars, you know,

1451
01:15:18,213 --> 01:15:22,133
Speaker 20: avoid that sort of stuff, chick. And the way is

1452
01:15:22,173 --> 01:15:25,493
Speaker 20: that the female monic butterflies lay egg after egg after

1453
01:15:25,573 --> 01:15:28,933
Speaker 20: egg on one plant. And if you say, if a

1454
01:15:28,973 --> 01:15:31,653
Speaker 20: plant maybe a meter or so tall, that could have

1455
01:15:31,773 --> 01:15:35,453
Speaker 20: maybe only five caterpillars or six to make them go

1456
01:15:35,613 --> 01:15:36,813
Speaker 20: to the end of their life.

1457
01:15:36,653 --> 01:15:40,773
Speaker 3: Side, because they are of course the hungry, hungry caterpillars.

1458
01:15:41,413 --> 01:15:43,653
Speaker 20: Well, you think you've got a son that's hungry. You

1459
01:15:43,733 --> 01:15:45,453
Speaker 20: wait till he grows up as a boy.

1460
01:15:46,333 --> 01:15:48,213
Speaker 3: That works.

1461
01:15:48,373 --> 01:15:51,533
Speaker 20: But in order to avoid getting too many caterpillars on

1462
01:15:51,573 --> 01:15:55,093
Speaker 20: your plants, for instance, I keep my caterpillars inside the

1463
01:15:55,133 --> 01:15:58,733
Speaker 20: tunnel house so no female monarch can get in and

1464
01:15:58,813 --> 01:16:02,133
Speaker 20: lay more eggs on that particular plant. You know, I

1465
01:16:02,213 --> 01:16:05,093
Speaker 20: tell these females fly to Auckland and do something with

1466
01:16:05,173 --> 01:16:05,613
Speaker 20: your life.

1467
01:16:05,813 --> 01:16:09,453
Speaker 7: Await anyway, So.

1468
01:16:09,333 --> 01:16:11,613
Speaker 20: That's those are the sort of things. And the other

1469
01:16:11,693 --> 01:16:14,333
Speaker 20: thing that you can have you can have troubles with wasps.

1470
01:16:14,653 --> 01:16:16,853
Speaker 20: So if you got your plants outside with the caterpillars

1471
01:16:17,093 --> 01:16:20,293
Speaker 20: and you suddenly realize that the number of caterpillars are diminishing,

1472
01:16:20,973 --> 01:16:24,773
Speaker 20: check for wasps flying by the German wasp, common wasp,

1473
01:16:25,053 --> 01:16:28,973
Speaker 20: paper wasps on it. Because these guys are literally predators

1474
01:16:28,973 --> 01:16:33,013
Speaker 20: that knivores, and they will eat and destroy your your caterpillar.

1475
01:16:33,093 --> 01:16:36,093
Speaker 20: So be aware of that good trick. Here, grow them

1476
01:16:36,133 --> 01:16:38,893
Speaker 20: under netting so the wasps can't gather them or put

1477
01:16:39,013 --> 01:16:42,613
Speaker 20: them in big pot plants pots, and then you actually

1478
01:16:42,733 --> 01:16:46,333
Speaker 20: change their position around the house and then the GPS

1479
01:16:46,453 --> 01:16:49,133
Speaker 20: system of the wasp goes like, I know that was

1480
01:16:49,173 --> 01:16:52,013
Speaker 20: a caterpillar here where the hell is it and they

1481
01:16:52,053 --> 01:16:54,413
Speaker 20: can't find it. It takes weeks for them to find

1482
01:16:54,413 --> 01:16:54,813
Speaker 20: it again.

1483
01:16:54,973 --> 01:16:57,213
Speaker 3: Oh that's a very good tip. Oh thank you. Okay,

1484
01:16:57,213 --> 01:16:59,693
Speaker 3: that's a year. That's really really good advice. Lovely.

1485
01:17:00,933 --> 01:17:03,573
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yep, yep, that's the one.

1486
01:17:03,653 --> 01:17:06,133
Speaker 20: And then finally, and this is something that happens with

1487
01:17:06,173 --> 01:17:09,773
Speaker 20: the of the chrystalist to a of a caterpillar to

1488
01:17:09,813 --> 01:17:13,053
Speaker 20: a crystalist sometimes. Can you imagine that you have to

1489
01:17:13,093 --> 01:17:17,813
Speaker 20: take your skin off and then hook your your caterpillar

1490
01:17:18,173 --> 01:17:21,693
Speaker 20: toll if you like, into the silken bed. That is

1491
01:17:21,853 --> 01:17:25,413
Speaker 20: a really that is circu to so lay in your garden.

1492
01:17:25,693 --> 01:17:30,533
Speaker 3: Wow, give us some of the stuff. Yeah, I knew it.

1493
01:17:30,893 --> 01:17:33,413
Speaker 2: I knew it, and you know all about it though

1494
01:17:33,933 --> 01:17:34,173
Speaker 2: you are.

1495
01:17:34,333 --> 01:17:36,413
Speaker 20: So you read it on the stuff on the air

1496
01:17:36,413 --> 01:17:40,013
Speaker 20: website and you'll find out you can hang them back up, just.

1497
01:17:39,973 --> 01:17:43,573
Speaker 3: Like that superb excerpt catching your next week for compass

1498
01:17:43,693 --> 01:17:46,453
Speaker 3: in the garden for us after eleven o'clock. Stuff you

1499
01:17:46,493 --> 01:17:49,573
Speaker 3: didn't know you can compost. The compast that you can compast,

1500
01:17:49,773 --> 01:17:52,093
Speaker 3: we'll see it with you. A few surprising little items

1501
01:17:52,133 --> 01:17:54,453
Speaker 3: coming up very shortly. It's almost leaving a clock. Don't

1502
01:17:54,613 --> 01:17:55,933
Speaker 3: use time on us Dogs be.

1503
01:17:57,333 --> 01:18:03,893
Speaker 1: Yeah Saturday mornings with Jack Tay keeping the conversation going

1504
01:18:03,933 --> 01:18:08,533
Speaker 1: through the weekend with beepewt dot cot for high quality supplements,

1505
01:18:08,653 --> 01:18:09,053
Speaker 1: used talk.

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01:18:32,493 --> 01:18:35,933
Speaker 3: A couple of big places to be this weekend all

1507
01:18:35,933 --> 01:18:39,293
Speaker 3: around the country. Actually go Media Stadium five pm this evening.

1508
01:18:40,093 --> 01:18:43,893
Speaker 3: You've got Auckland FC versus the Wellington Phoenix, the third

1509
01:18:44,533 --> 01:18:46,813
Speaker 3: Kiwi Darby in the A League this year. Of course

1510
01:18:47,053 --> 01:18:48,533
Speaker 3: Auckland f C won the first two.

1511
01:18:48,693 --> 01:18:49,173
Speaker 7: I don't know.

1512
01:18:50,133 --> 01:18:52,693
Speaker 3: I'm obviously supporting orkand f C and this although I've

1513
01:18:52,693 --> 01:18:56,213
Speaker 3: always loved the Phoenix, but I don't know, it does

1514
01:18:56,253 --> 01:18:58,573
Speaker 3: feel like maybe this could be the Phoenix. Is this

1515
01:18:58,613 --> 01:19:01,013
Speaker 3: could be the day. Anyway. We'll catch up with Jason

1516
01:19:01,053 --> 01:19:03,733
Speaker 3: Pine before midday get his thoughts on that. The other

1517
01:19:03,773 --> 01:19:06,213
Speaker 3: place to be is the three Hagley Park and christ

1518
01:19:06,533 --> 01:19:10,413
Speaker 3: Day two of Electric Ev. The Prodigy playing this evening.

1519
01:19:10,453 --> 01:19:13,173
Speaker 3: You've got lots of bands, Crungbin, the Kook's playing, Rude

1520
01:19:13,213 --> 01:19:15,373
Speaker 3: of Mental, Fat Foot's drop. Anyway, We're going to take

1521
01:19:15,413 --> 01:19:18,213
Speaker 3: your life to Hagley Park here and Chris Schultz about

1522
01:19:18,213 --> 01:19:21,693
Speaker 3: how Electric Ev is being received there this afternoon. It

1523
01:19:21,773 --> 01:19:25,773
Speaker 3: is Australasia's biggest two day festival. So yeah, man, that

1524
01:19:25,933 --> 01:19:27,933
Speaker 3: is very much the place to be this weekend. Right

1525
01:19:27,933 --> 01:19:31,533
Speaker 3: now eight minutes past eleven, Jack, and time to catch

1526
01:19:31,613 --> 01:19:34,853
Speaker 3: up with our sustainability expert Kate Hall's with us this morning.

1527
01:19:34,853 --> 01:19:35,253
Speaker 3: More do you know?

1528
01:19:35,613 --> 01:19:36,493
Speaker 8: Hello, good mind?

1529
01:19:36,573 --> 01:19:36,773
Speaker 6: Jack?

1530
01:19:36,933 --> 01:19:39,813
Speaker 3: Hey, I think am I like a lot of people,

1531
01:19:39,933 --> 01:19:42,533
Speaker 3: and that when I think of composting, I just think

1532
01:19:42,533 --> 01:19:46,373
Speaker 3: about basic stuff, right Like I think about you know,

1533
01:19:46,533 --> 01:19:50,653
Speaker 3: like clippings from the garden and maybe a bit of

1534
01:19:50,773 --> 01:19:53,413
Speaker 3: you know, fruit and vegetable scraps, that kind of thing.

1535
01:19:53,813 --> 01:19:56,533
Speaker 3: But this morning, you've got some interesting bits and pieces

1536
01:19:56,533 --> 01:19:59,133
Speaker 3: that we can compost that many people will be surprised by.

1537
01:20:00,053 --> 01:20:02,413
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think pretty often thing has compost is just

1538
01:20:02,453 --> 01:20:04,773
Speaker 8: like a food waste disposal system.

1539
01:20:04,893 --> 01:20:05,133
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1540
01:20:05,293 --> 01:20:10,613
Speaker 8: But you know, like anything that is natural and you

1541
01:20:10,773 --> 01:20:14,093
Speaker 8: can break down, we can pretty much put it put

1542
01:20:14,173 --> 01:20:16,413
Speaker 8: in our compost and it's really good for our compost.

1543
01:20:17,013 --> 01:20:19,133
Speaker 8: And there is so much more that you know, we

1544
01:20:19,133 --> 01:20:21,733
Speaker 8: can put in there that isn't just our corn cold

1545
01:20:21,853 --> 01:20:22,573
Speaker 8: or banana appeal.

1546
01:20:22,693 --> 01:20:25,493
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going to start with the most disgusting one

1547
01:20:25,813 --> 01:20:26,933
Speaker 3: pet and human here.

1548
01:20:27,933 --> 01:20:30,813
Speaker 8: Yes, you can put it in there. I mean some

1549
01:20:30,853 --> 01:20:32,813
Speaker 8: people like to pick it up in their washing lines

1550
01:20:32,893 --> 01:20:35,053
Speaker 8: so that birds can then take it and use it.

1551
01:20:35,853 --> 01:20:36,453
Speaker 7: Who does that?

1552
01:20:37,813 --> 01:20:38,453
Speaker 8: Maybe it's just.

1553
01:20:38,453 --> 01:20:44,853
Speaker 3: Me, Oh.

1554
01:20:44,533 --> 01:20:46,173
Speaker 8: So lovely, you know.

1555
01:20:46,293 --> 01:20:51,053
Speaker 3: First see, okay, okay, what I'm imagining is, you know,

1556
01:20:51,093 --> 01:20:54,333
Speaker 3: the stuff that you get out of the drain, that's

1557
01:20:54,333 --> 01:20:57,133
Speaker 3: what I think you're going and putting that up all

1558
01:20:57,133 --> 01:20:59,053
Speaker 3: the neighbors appearing over the fence, going.

1559
01:21:00,013 --> 01:21:04,613
Speaker 8: To again now but human here and pit here. I mean,

1560
01:21:04,653 --> 01:21:07,613
Speaker 8: it does take quite a while to down in your composture.

1561
01:21:07,853 --> 01:21:10,053
Speaker 8: But you know, especially if you have one of those

1562
01:21:10,093 --> 01:21:13,813
Speaker 8: big classic black bins, it's you're not going to see it.

1563
01:21:13,973 --> 01:21:17,413
Speaker 8: You're going to just go through and yeah, keep breaking down.

1564
01:21:18,573 --> 01:21:20,973
Speaker 8: So yeah, that's great. Even because I'm traveling around at

1565
01:21:20,973 --> 01:21:24,173
Speaker 8: the moment, I try to kind of keep my hair

1566
01:21:24,693 --> 01:21:27,973
Speaker 8: and keep stuff as much as possible. And then you know,

1567
01:21:28,053 --> 01:21:30,733
Speaker 8: every every person's compost is different too, so I do

1568
01:21:31,013 --> 01:21:34,493
Speaker 8: if you're composting someone else's space, just ask for permission

1569
01:21:34,533 --> 01:21:36,173
Speaker 8: around what they want in their compost.

1570
01:21:36,333 --> 01:21:36,533
Speaker 20: Yeah.

1571
01:21:36,813 --> 01:21:39,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so you can do nail clippings as well,

1572
01:21:39,973 --> 01:21:42,373
Speaker 3: presumably because it's all kind of the same stuff, right,

1573
01:21:42,413 --> 01:21:43,373
Speaker 3: But what else?

1574
01:21:44,373 --> 01:21:48,493
Speaker 8: So your cardboard, toilet paper rolls and air castles, that's

1575
01:21:48,533 --> 01:21:51,853
Speaker 8: actually one that's not just that they can compost. It's

1576
01:21:51,893 --> 01:21:55,213
Speaker 8: actually really important for your compost. So the majority of

1577
01:21:55,213 --> 01:21:58,013
Speaker 8: people who come to me say, I tried composting, but

1578
01:21:58,213 --> 01:22:01,853
Speaker 8: unfortunately it just got too stinky and wet and messy

1579
01:22:01,933 --> 01:22:05,333
Speaker 8: and gross. And that's because they didn't put enough carbon

1580
01:22:05,493 --> 01:22:08,733
Speaker 8: the brown stuff, dry stuff. Yeah, and the composts been

1581
01:22:08,773 --> 01:22:12,133
Speaker 8: to balance out all of the green wet stuff.

1582
01:22:12,333 --> 01:22:12,533
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1583
01:22:12,693 --> 01:22:16,453
Speaker 8: So yeah, ripping up to your toilet paper rolls. When

1584
01:22:16,493 --> 01:22:18,213
Speaker 8: we hit a dog who was really good at wrapping

1585
01:22:18,293 --> 01:22:19,973
Speaker 8: up toilet paper rolls and then we could put it

1586
01:22:20,013 --> 01:22:22,573
Speaker 8: straight in the compost. So the smaller the better for

1587
01:22:22,693 --> 01:22:26,253
Speaker 8: anything in the compost or breakdown faster. So that's another

1588
01:22:26,373 --> 01:22:30,093
Speaker 8: great one. And also wine corks, so you know, just

1589
01:22:30,173 --> 01:22:33,213
Speaker 8: the ones, not the ones that are not the plasticky

1590
01:22:33,253 --> 01:22:36,493
Speaker 8: ones plastic, but again, chop them up and you can

1591
01:22:36,493 --> 01:22:37,293
Speaker 8: put them in your compost.

1592
01:22:37,333 --> 01:22:40,493
Speaker 3: Ah, very good. Okay, you can do paper towels and

1593
01:22:40,653 --> 01:22:43,613
Speaker 3: napkins even if they're used, but there's probably some stuff

1594
01:22:44,213 --> 01:22:46,453
Speaker 3: if they've been sucked in grease or that is something

1595
01:22:46,453 --> 01:22:47,773
Speaker 3: like that, they're probably not going to work.

1596
01:22:47,733 --> 01:22:51,373
Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, definitely, I mean depending on kind of what

1597
01:22:51,573 --> 01:22:54,693
Speaker 8: the grease is. You know, again, everyone has their own

1598
01:22:54,693 --> 01:22:58,413
Speaker 8: different compost etiquettes for their personal composts them. But like

1599
01:22:58,493 --> 01:23:02,613
Speaker 8: for us, if it's been used to wipe down some

1600
01:23:02,813 --> 01:23:06,333
Speaker 8: oil or butter or whatever, we put that in our compost.

1601
01:23:06,533 --> 01:23:07,813
Speaker 2: Sure, and it's fine.

1602
01:23:07,933 --> 01:23:11,213
Speaker 8: I mean, we try to use reusable paper tails and netkins,

1603
01:23:11,253 --> 01:23:14,813
Speaker 8: but eminently sometimes you have them around, so yeah, you

1604
01:23:14,853 --> 01:23:20,533
Speaker 8: can put those in. Sometimes there are different netkins that

1605
01:23:20,973 --> 01:23:24,413
Speaker 8: do contain a bit of plastic, which you can often see.

1606
01:23:24,413 --> 01:23:27,293
Speaker 8: You know, there's really really thick one that actually feel

1607
01:23:27,373 --> 01:23:31,293
Speaker 8: like a reusable one, So that's probably the ideal because

1608
01:23:31,453 --> 01:23:34,413
Speaker 8: you know you're popping a little bits of plastic through

1609
01:23:34,413 --> 01:23:37,533
Speaker 8: your compost. And same with tea bags. We often think, oh,

1610
01:23:37,533 --> 01:23:41,093
Speaker 8: you know, that's just paper, but only putting tea bags

1611
01:23:41,133 --> 01:23:44,493
Speaker 8: in your compost, then there are microplastic free. So often

1612
01:23:44,533 --> 01:23:47,653
Speaker 8: it will say on the box these days, or there's

1613
01:23:47,693 --> 01:23:50,853
Speaker 8: some good lists online that you can usually find. Watch brands,

1614
01:23:51,013 --> 01:23:53,173
Speaker 8: so don't put plastic in their tea bags.

1615
01:23:53,173 --> 01:23:55,213
Speaker 3: There's probably one of those ones. We assume that they

1616
01:23:55,253 --> 01:23:58,173
Speaker 3: do have microplastics unless they're advertising that they don't, right.

1617
01:23:58,573 --> 01:24:01,053
Speaker 8: Yes, yeah, it's just like with your recycling, if you

1618
01:24:01,213 --> 01:24:02,933
Speaker 8: don't know if it can be recycled put it in

1619
01:24:02,973 --> 01:24:05,293
Speaker 8: the den, you know, you don't want to contaminate. Yeah,

1620
01:24:05,333 --> 01:24:07,293
Speaker 8: the recycling then, or or a compost them.

1621
01:24:07,453 --> 01:24:10,613
Speaker 3: Yeah. Nice. The toothpicks and bamboo skews. This is a

1622
01:24:10,613 --> 01:24:13,253
Speaker 3: good one in barbecue season in particular, because often you

1623
01:24:13,293 --> 01:24:15,173
Speaker 3: get those skewers and that you don't really want to

1624
01:24:15,173 --> 01:24:16,733
Speaker 3: put them in the ben either, can again be a

1625
01:24:16,733 --> 01:24:17,373
Speaker 3: bit dangerous.

1626
01:24:17,813 --> 01:24:20,813
Speaker 8: Yeah, totally spike he again, cut them up into as

1627
01:24:20,893 --> 01:24:23,733
Speaker 8: many little pieces as you can bother with in your composts,

1628
01:24:23,773 --> 01:24:25,693
Speaker 8: and that will help break them down.

1629
01:24:26,293 --> 01:24:28,653
Speaker 3: I hadn't thought about this one. You can put old

1630
01:24:28,813 --> 01:24:31,493
Speaker 3: cotton socks in the compost.

1631
01:24:31,453 --> 01:24:35,773
Speaker 8: Yes, yeah, so something is completely cotton or completely wool.

1632
01:24:36,853 --> 01:24:39,733
Speaker 8: Sometimes they are lastain is you have to take off

1633
01:24:39,813 --> 01:24:42,573
Speaker 8: kind of trimmings or even a little tag if it's

1634
01:24:42,613 --> 01:24:45,493
Speaker 8: like a little tag on your cotton undies. Yeah, take

1635
01:24:45,533 --> 01:24:49,053
Speaker 8: those bits off because they won't break down. There are

1636
01:24:49,133 --> 01:24:52,933
Speaker 8: some alstones that are fully plant based, but they're very

1637
01:24:53,053 --> 01:24:56,733
Speaker 8: rare so lately that it won't be so yeah, cut

1638
01:24:56,773 --> 01:24:59,453
Speaker 8: those off. And then I mean you can cut your

1639
01:24:59,733 --> 01:25:02,093
Speaker 8: undies or socks up and put them in the compast.

1640
01:25:02,333 --> 01:25:04,933
Speaker 8: Or a fun experiment is just putting it straight in

1641
01:25:05,453 --> 01:25:07,213
Speaker 8: and then you could do it up later and you

1642
01:25:07,213 --> 01:25:09,853
Speaker 8: could see kind of how fast it's breaking down, because

1643
01:25:09,853 --> 01:25:12,213
Speaker 8: it does break down, and you can see it just

1644
01:25:12,293 --> 01:25:13,973
Speaker 8: kind of like slowly disappearing.

1645
01:25:14,053 --> 01:25:16,613
Speaker 3: Ah good, this is relevant for me. You can put

1646
01:25:16,653 --> 01:25:18,853
Speaker 3: dead house plants.

1647
01:25:20,173 --> 01:25:25,533
Speaker 8: You can, I mean, there's some different species that ideally

1648
01:25:25,533 --> 01:25:29,173
Speaker 8: shouldn't go in your compost because they can be invasive species.

1649
01:25:29,493 --> 01:25:36,053
Speaker 8: The classic purple long hang ones that yeah, to put out.

1650
01:25:36,933 --> 01:25:39,693
Speaker 3: They are the only one I can get alive. So yeah, yeah, yeah,

1651
01:25:39,733 --> 01:25:42,373
Speaker 3: basically I think it's actually going to be a good

1652
01:25:43,013 --> 01:25:45,453
Speaker 3: it'll be a good sorter. Basically, if I can keep

1653
01:25:45,493 --> 01:25:48,213
Speaker 3: it alive, then it's like species and it won't need

1654
01:25:48,253 --> 01:25:49,053
Speaker 3: to go to go fast.

1655
01:25:49,173 --> 01:25:49,813
Speaker 19: Okay, good.

1656
01:25:50,533 --> 01:25:53,613
Speaker 8: Yeah, but yeah you can put yeah, you know, hat

1657
01:25:53,693 --> 01:25:58,213
Speaker 8: flowers that you've been given a bunch of flowers or yeah,

1658
01:25:58,293 --> 01:26:02,933
Speaker 8: little bits of house plant, dried leaves, anything like that.

1659
01:26:03,173 --> 01:26:04,973
Speaker 3: And pencil shavings you can check in there.

1660
01:26:05,013 --> 01:26:05,133
Speaker 14: Two.

1661
01:26:05,933 --> 01:26:09,853
Speaker 8: Yes, yep, you can again some pencils. You know, every

1662
01:26:09,853 --> 01:26:15,173
Speaker 8: pencils made differently, that's predominantly. Yeah, it's just wood, and

1663
01:26:15,493 --> 01:26:16,933
Speaker 8: you can put that in your compost too.

1664
01:26:17,093 --> 01:26:19,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, very nice. Okay, we'll put the full list up

1665
01:26:19,333 --> 01:26:21,893
Speaker 3: on the news talks that'd be website, because it's one

1666
01:26:21,893 --> 01:26:24,293
Speaker 3: of those things you just if you can build that

1667
01:26:24,373 --> 01:26:26,533
Speaker 3: kind of consciousness into your routine when it comes to

1668
01:26:27,613 --> 01:26:29,493
Speaker 3: you know, when it comes to your compost, and so

1669
01:26:29,493 --> 01:26:33,053
Speaker 3: you're not automatically just putting things in the bin. Yeah

1670
01:26:33,133 --> 01:26:36,053
Speaker 3: you can. Actually you can have a much richer compost presumably.

1671
01:26:35,613 --> 01:26:39,493
Speaker 8: Yeah, totally, because again you're not just putting food based,

1672
01:26:39,533 --> 01:26:43,733
Speaker 8: which is kind of a lot of the same thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1673
01:26:43,773 --> 01:26:48,053
Speaker 8: a rich compost has a lot of different elements and yeah,

1674
01:26:48,093 --> 01:26:50,333
Speaker 8: it all kind of flows together. It's just like everything

1675
01:26:50,413 --> 01:26:54,053
Speaker 8: in nature. The more kind of diversity and differences there

1676
01:26:54,053 --> 01:26:55,853
Speaker 8: are likely the more it will flourish.

1677
01:26:56,173 --> 01:26:58,133
Speaker 3: Oh nice, hey, thank you so much, Kate. We will

1678
01:26:58,173 --> 01:27:00,733
Speaker 3: catchigin very soon, Kate. All you can find her of

1679
01:27:00,733 --> 01:27:04,253
Speaker 3: course on the social media platforms by searching ethically Kate.

1680
01:27:04,293 --> 01:27:06,253
Speaker 3: And like I say, all of those good things to

1681
01:27:06,493 --> 01:27:08,773
Speaker 3: possible be on the news Talk's he'd be website. Just

1682
01:27:08,813 --> 01:27:11,173
Speaker 3: so you know, before midday, we're going to get your

1683
01:27:11,213 --> 01:27:13,933
Speaker 3: book picks for this weekend, and one of them is

1684
01:27:13,973 --> 01:27:17,253
Speaker 3: this amazing new biography on Jackie Kennedy Nassas And I

1685
01:27:17,293 --> 01:27:19,093
Speaker 3: know what you think you probably thinking, come on. We've

1686
01:27:19,133 --> 01:27:21,213
Speaker 3: had the film, We've had, however, many books. She is

1687
01:27:21,213 --> 01:27:24,853
Speaker 3: one of the most documented people of the twentieth century. Yep,

1688
01:27:24,893 --> 01:27:27,933
Speaker 3: that's true. But the thing about this new biography is

1689
01:27:28,013 --> 01:27:32,093
Speaker 3: there are a whole series of details and facts and

1690
01:27:32,173 --> 01:27:35,613
Speaker 3: stories that had never been shared in public ever before.

1691
01:27:35,853 --> 01:27:37,453
Speaker 3: So we're going to tell you about some of those,

1692
01:27:37,613 --> 01:27:39,293
Speaker 3: and we'll save a couple as well, tell you about

1693
01:27:39,293 --> 01:27:41,933
Speaker 3: the new book about Jackie Kennedy and assas before midday.

1694
01:27:42,013 --> 01:27:46,453
Speaker 3: Right now, it has just gone seventeen minutes past eleven Travel.

1695
01:27:46,173 --> 01:27:49,293
Speaker 2: With Windy Woo Tours Where the world is Yours.

1696
01:27:49,053 --> 01:27:53,213
Speaker 3: For now eighteen past eleven on News Talks V Travel

1697
01:27:53,213 --> 01:27:55,013
Speaker 3: Correspondence Mike Yardley, and he's with us.

1698
01:27:55,013 --> 01:27:59,253
Speaker 7: Now, Hi, Mike, Good morning jack. Fantastic news about the baby.

1699
01:27:59,253 --> 01:28:02,533
Speaker 7: And I'm particularly impressed your son has been introduced to

1700
01:28:03,213 --> 01:28:06,253
Speaker 7: Champions Trophy cricket so early in his life. I hope

1701
01:28:06,373 --> 01:28:08,773
Speaker 7: he becomes the nation's good luck charm for the next

1702
01:28:08,853 --> 01:28:09,373
Speaker 7: few weeks.

1703
01:28:10,253 --> 01:28:12,413
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, this is It's funny you mentioned that, right,

1704
01:28:12,453 --> 01:28:15,733
Speaker 3: because obviously we are a big cricketing family. Certainly my

1705
01:28:15,893 --> 01:28:18,333
Speaker 3: side of the family are keen cricketing fans, and so

1706
01:28:19,093 --> 01:28:23,373
Speaker 3: it's funny because we were at or Concentral Hospital and

1707
01:28:23,413 --> 01:28:25,933
Speaker 3: then after you've been at Auckland Hospital you can be

1708
01:28:26,013 --> 01:28:28,933
Speaker 3: discharged to Birthcare and Parnell, which is just on the

1709
01:28:28,933 --> 01:28:31,093
Speaker 3: other side of the domain, if you know, the Central Auckland.

1710
01:28:31,533 --> 01:28:34,573
Speaker 3: And so the thing about the domain is they have

1711
01:28:34,693 --> 01:28:36,893
Speaker 3: lots of cricket pitches at this time of year. So

1712
01:28:37,493 --> 01:28:39,813
Speaker 3: once once we had been discharged, so we watched the

1713
01:28:39,853 --> 01:28:43,133
Speaker 3: Champions Trophy and then once we've been discharged, and the

1714
01:28:43,173 --> 01:28:44,973
Speaker 3: nurser said, oh, I feel free to take him outside

1715
01:28:45,013 --> 01:28:46,093
Speaker 3: for a bit of walk, get a little bit of

1716
01:28:46,133 --> 01:28:49,253
Speaker 3: sunshine on him. I said, okay, And I'm pleased to

1717
01:28:49,253 --> 01:28:52,533
Speaker 3: report that not only has he watched a Champions Trophy match,

1718
01:28:52,533 --> 01:28:54,573
Speaker 3: he's also spent an hour in the domain watching a

1719
01:28:54,573 --> 01:29:00,773
Speaker 3: bit of social cricket in person. So there you goots, Yes, exactly,

1720
01:29:00,893 --> 01:29:03,453
Speaker 3: very much, grassroots, very much, grassroots. He's gone and watch

1721
01:29:03,493 --> 01:29:05,373
Speaker 3: a bit of T twenty, but a social Tea twenty

1722
01:29:05,413 --> 01:29:08,333
Speaker 3: on Thursday night. That was that was a bit of fun.

1723
01:29:08,453 --> 01:29:08,933
Speaker 16: Yeah.

1724
01:29:09,093 --> 01:29:11,853
Speaker 7: Hey, anyway, don't rush, don't don't rush to get him

1725
01:29:11,893 --> 01:29:13,693
Speaker 7: to watch the Crusaders anytime.

1726
01:29:15,453 --> 01:29:17,533
Speaker 3: At the moment, as far as I'm concerned. At the

1727
01:29:17,573 --> 01:29:20,573
Speaker 3: very last Hey, we're focusing on Cannoby this morning though,

1728
01:29:20,693 --> 01:29:24,413
Speaker 3: and the hinterland treats in the Hurunui district, and so

1729
01:29:24,493 --> 01:29:27,693
Speaker 3: this is the sort of area in North Canterbury, kind

1730
01:29:27,693 --> 01:29:30,573
Speaker 3: of inland a little bit. And you've been jet boating

1731
01:29:30,693 --> 01:29:32,173
Speaker 3: on the Wyo River, Hagard.

1732
01:29:32,253 --> 01:29:36,733
Speaker 7: Was that absolutely superb jackets the first time I have

1733
01:29:36,813 --> 01:29:41,053
Speaker 7: taken a blast down that magnificent braided river. So this

1734
01:29:41,133 --> 01:29:43,933
Speaker 7: is the river that starts in Lewis, pass by the

1735
01:29:43,973 --> 01:29:48,773
Speaker 7: Spencer Mountains actually and then just charges across the Hurnui landscape.

1736
01:29:49,493 --> 01:29:52,973
Speaker 7: And in places that river, the rapids, man, they can

1737
01:29:53,053 --> 01:29:56,173
Speaker 7: be quite frisky. And I had this driver Karen, he

1738
01:29:56,333 --> 01:29:58,373
Speaker 7: was a wizard behind the wheel, even though he said

1739
01:29:58,373 --> 01:30:00,693
Speaker 7: to me this is only my second day on the job,

1740
01:30:00,773 --> 01:30:03,973
Speaker 7: which added a bit of a frizzon to the experience.

1741
01:30:04,453 --> 01:30:09,053
Speaker 7: But it's such a scenic thrilling ride because you go

1742
01:30:09,133 --> 01:30:13,773
Speaker 7: from narrow gorges to braided shallows. And last week when

1743
01:30:13,813 --> 01:30:16,653
Speaker 7: I was there, it was just the most beautifully sunny day,

1744
01:30:16,733 --> 01:30:20,493
Speaker 7: so that water it just shimmered like liquid jade. But

1745
01:30:20,573 --> 01:30:23,213
Speaker 7: aside from the thrills and the spells, it is such

1746
01:30:23,253 --> 01:30:27,213
Speaker 7: a novel advantage point to just soak up that landscape

1747
01:30:27,213 --> 01:30:31,093
Speaker 7: and all of its sort of layered richness in the area.

1748
01:30:31,173 --> 01:30:33,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, the rock formations are pretty impressive.

1749
01:30:33,613 --> 01:30:37,653
Speaker 7: A they are really impressive. So just south of the

1750
01:30:37,653 --> 01:30:41,053
Speaker 7: Wyo Fiery Bridge, which is that bridge leading you into

1751
01:30:41,133 --> 01:30:44,533
Speaker 7: hand the springs the gorge, the Wyo Gorge, it has

1752
01:30:44,573 --> 01:30:48,933
Speaker 7: these fascinating rock walls and the terraces particularly is where

1753
01:30:48,973 --> 01:30:54,733
Speaker 7: I really got my geological Jolly's Jack Marble Point is

1754
01:30:54,813 --> 01:30:59,253
Speaker 7: the highlight. So there are these limestone rock outcrops that

1755
01:30:59,333 --> 01:31:02,293
Speaker 7: sort of tumble across the countryside and then rising up

1756
01:31:02,333 --> 01:31:08,293
Speaker 7: from the river banks outcrops of red tinted crystallized limestone.

1757
01:31:08,693 --> 01:31:10,733
Speaker 7: So back in the day, apparently it was sold as

1758
01:31:10,813 --> 01:31:14,573
Speaker 7: Hemma marble. And then as you look at these rock terraces,

1759
01:31:14,653 --> 01:31:18,693
Speaker 7: you can also see the Hope fault line, and beneath

1760
01:31:18,813 --> 01:31:23,173
Speaker 7: that a fossil line imprinted in the rock, and that

1761
01:31:23,333 --> 01:31:27,333
Speaker 7: has unearthed all manner of ancient marine fossils dating back

1762
01:31:27,373 --> 01:31:31,773
Speaker 7: thirty million years when apparently the river was actually a beach.

1763
01:31:32,093 --> 01:31:34,413
Speaker 7: So that was all quite enough to blow my mind.

1764
01:31:34,533 --> 01:31:37,813
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's amazing. Are the hot pools cranking and

1765
01:31:38,013 --> 01:31:39,973
Speaker 3: hand mass springs at the moment or is it kind

1766
01:31:39,973 --> 01:31:40,733
Speaker 3: of too hot?

1767
01:31:42,133 --> 01:31:44,853
Speaker 7: Curious you ask, Jack, because when I was there last

1768
01:31:44,893 --> 01:31:47,773
Speaker 7: week the mercury was nudging thirty degrees, but there were

1769
01:31:47,853 --> 01:31:50,373
Speaker 7: hundreds of people quite happy to sizzle themselves in that

1770
01:31:50,413 --> 01:31:52,693
Speaker 7: piping hot water, which I thought was a bit weird.

1771
01:31:53,053 --> 01:31:55,253
Speaker 7: But then again you've got the cold pools there as

1772
01:31:55,253 --> 01:31:58,293
Speaker 7: well if you need to cool off, so twenty two

1773
01:31:58,413 --> 01:32:01,573
Speaker 7: poles at that complex to hop scotch your way through.

1774
01:32:01,933 --> 01:32:04,693
Speaker 7: Then you've got the water slides. It is such a

1775
01:32:04,853 --> 01:32:08,973
Speaker 7: perennial people tractor, the thermal polls and spa, but I

1776
01:32:09,013 --> 01:32:12,573
Speaker 7: reckon it's definitely best at night when the temperatures have dipped,

1777
01:32:13,013 --> 01:32:17,213
Speaker 7: or even better when you've got a bit of dappled

1778
01:32:17,293 --> 01:32:20,973
Speaker 7: snow on the mountain range. But it's just such a

1779
01:32:21,093 --> 01:32:23,053
Speaker 7: runaway hits that complex.

1780
01:32:22,653 --> 01:32:24,853
Speaker 3: And tell us about your spa experience.

1781
01:32:26,813 --> 01:32:29,493
Speaker 7: Well, the spa at Hanma Springs is one of New

1782
01:32:29,573 --> 01:32:33,093
Speaker 7: Zealand's busiest spas, so people go crazy there, put their

1783
01:32:33,173 --> 01:32:36,813
Speaker 7: facials into have a feet retreat apparently as a big

1784
01:32:36,853 --> 01:32:40,253
Speaker 7: thing Jacker feet retreat, or you can have the full

1785
01:32:40,293 --> 01:32:42,373
Speaker 7: body of fear. So I was booked in for this

1786
01:32:42,573 --> 01:32:47,173
Speaker 7: standard message right, a relaxation massage but as I chatted

1787
01:32:47,173 --> 01:32:50,493
Speaker 7: to my therapist, to Sophie, who was fantastic, I started

1788
01:32:50,533 --> 01:32:54,813
Speaker 7: listing off all of my various complaints and she switched

1789
01:32:54,853 --> 01:32:59,173
Speaker 7: it up into a deep tissue recovery massage, which was

1790
01:32:59,413 --> 01:33:05,333
Speaker 7: the most searing, transformative and most brutal body batting experience

1791
01:33:05,453 --> 01:33:08,893
Speaker 7: I've ever in counter it. But I felt so liberated

1792
01:33:08,933 --> 01:33:11,333
Speaker 7: an hour later and I just floated out of the

1793
01:33:11,413 --> 01:33:13,053
Speaker 7: joints like a happy little cloud.

1794
01:33:13,213 --> 01:33:16,813
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably because you, But no, that does sound sounds

1795
01:33:16,853 --> 01:33:18,933
Speaker 3: sounds good every once in a while. Sounds like a

1796
01:33:18,933 --> 01:33:21,613
Speaker 3: bit of me too, So we would use some good spots.

1797
01:33:21,613 --> 01:33:24,293
Speaker 3: What would be your recommendations for good kai in Haimna.

1798
01:33:25,013 --> 01:33:26,853
Speaker 7: Well, there is a place which is like a one

1799
01:33:26,893 --> 01:33:38,133
Speaker 7: stop shop for you Jack Fudge Gelato, So yeah, it's

1800
01:33:38,213 --> 01:33:41,293
Speaker 7: like a double dip fresh and premi fudge and gelato.

1801
01:33:42,053 --> 01:33:45,773
Speaker 7: But for top notch, definitely dying At number thirty one

1802
01:33:45,853 --> 01:33:50,733
Speaker 7: on the main street in Hannah, I tried the beetroot aranchini,

1803
01:33:51,013 --> 01:33:54,733
Speaker 7: which was absolutely stuffed with an almond and cheese filling.

1804
01:33:54,853 --> 01:33:59,493
Speaker 7: God there so good. The mains were dominated by locally

1805
01:33:59,493 --> 01:34:03,253
Speaker 7: sourced meats, but definitely leave room for dessert. The warm,

1806
01:34:03,293 --> 01:34:08,253
Speaker 7: sticky licorice pudding so good. And then the creative cocktail.

1807
01:34:08,333 --> 01:34:12,453
Speaker 7: So I tried a mushroom sour, which is like a

1808
01:34:12,493 --> 01:34:15,493
Speaker 7: modern take on a whisky sour, I know, and it's

1809
01:34:15,533 --> 01:34:19,093
Speaker 7: infused with mushroom powder. So the idea is you get

1810
01:34:19,133 --> 01:34:23,133
Speaker 7: like the earthy richness of the fungi with the classic

1811
01:34:23,213 --> 01:34:26,453
Speaker 7: blend of whiskey lemon and a creamy egg white froth.

1812
01:34:26,613 --> 01:34:29,973
Speaker 7: So it's savory and et centracy and it's really good.

1813
01:34:30,173 --> 01:34:34,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, okay, yeah, I do you know, mushrooms are

1814
01:34:34,053 --> 01:34:36,093
Speaker 3: one of the one of the few things I don't

1815
01:34:36,173 --> 01:34:37,093
Speaker 3: like eating.

1816
01:34:37,533 --> 01:34:39,933
Speaker 7: Seriously, I thought you'd be a mushroom.

1817
01:34:39,493 --> 01:34:43,773
Speaker 3: Man mushrooms and just never have been. I'm always like,

1818
01:34:43,813 --> 01:34:45,133
Speaker 3: why would you eat from us?

1819
01:34:45,253 --> 01:34:45,493
Speaker 9: You know?

1820
01:34:46,013 --> 01:34:47,773
Speaker 3: But then I suppose I like blue cheese, so I

1821
01:34:47,773 --> 01:34:50,293
Speaker 3: don't know anyway, So yeah, I'm not sure I'm going

1822
01:34:50,333 --> 01:34:51,773
Speaker 3: to leap at that option, but sounds that there'll be

1823
01:34:51,813 --> 01:34:53,973
Speaker 3: some other creative little options for me. And if you

1824
01:34:54,013 --> 01:34:58,533
Speaker 3: grow vineyards, what would be your recommendations for wineries in.

1825
01:34:59,213 --> 01:35:02,413
Speaker 7: Yes, indeed? Yeah, well the White Pit of Valley of course,

1826
01:35:02,613 --> 01:35:05,933
Speaker 7: big wine country, so lots of little boutique vineyards. I'm

1827
01:35:05,933 --> 01:35:08,613
Speaker 7: a big fan of George's Road Wines, particularly if you

1828
01:35:08,773 --> 01:35:12,133
Speaker 7: like Sarah or Peno Gree or Rose. Everyone seems to

1829
01:35:12,133 --> 01:35:14,933
Speaker 7: love Rose at this time of year. Another great winery

1830
01:35:14,973 --> 01:35:19,173
Speaker 7: stop is tall Less once again, very small boutique vineyard

1831
01:35:19,373 --> 01:35:23,573
Speaker 7: and data exceptional Rose. But I really like the Omahe

1832
01:35:23,733 --> 01:35:26,773
Speaker 7: Road pen and Wa, So if you're having a week tasting,

1833
01:35:27,093 --> 01:35:29,293
Speaker 7: add the pen and Wa to you to your list.

1834
01:35:29,333 --> 01:35:32,173
Speaker 7: It's all cherries and raspberries and plums. It's just a

1835
01:35:32,253 --> 01:35:33,333
Speaker 7: delicious pinot.

1836
01:35:33,413 --> 01:35:37,773
Speaker 3: Jack sounds fantastic. Hey, thank you. We will put all

1837
01:35:37,813 --> 01:35:41,253
Speaker 3: of those tips for exploring the hinterland treats in the

1838
01:35:41,293 --> 01:35:43,293
Speaker 3: hurda Nui district up on the Newstalks. He'd be, we

1839
01:35:43,373 --> 01:35:46,413
Speaker 3: have son catch you next week Mite, Thank you. Jack.

1840
01:35:46,853 --> 01:35:50,013
Speaker 3: Mikey Audley our travel correspondent there before midday on Newsborks

1841
01:35:50,053 --> 01:35:51,693
Speaker 3: he'd be, will take your live to the O three,

1842
01:35:51,733 --> 01:35:55,173
Speaker 3: just down the road from the Hurdanui Electric Avenue. Day

1843
01:35:55,213 --> 01:35:59,773
Speaker 3: two and Australasia's biggest festival, drawing tens of thousands to

1844
01:35:59,853 --> 01:36:02,733
Speaker 3: Hagley Park. Next up, though, we'll see what Jason Pie's

1845
01:36:02,733 --> 01:36:05,253
Speaker 3: planning for us this afternoon on weekend Sport, ahead of

1846
01:36:05,293 --> 01:36:07,853
Speaker 3: his beloved Phoenix taking on Auckland.

1847
01:36:07,413 --> 01:36:13,973
Speaker 2: DEFC Getting your weekends started.

1848
01:36:14,173 --> 01:36:18,973
Speaker 1: It's Saturday morning with Jack Team on News TALKSB.

1849
01:36:29,093 --> 01:36:30,733
Speaker 3: Do you know I think it's like twenty years since

1850
01:36:30,733 --> 01:36:34,093
Speaker 3: this album was released. Oh that makes me be old.

1851
01:36:35,653 --> 01:36:38,413
Speaker 3: The reason I know is because I played trombone in

1852
01:36:38,493 --> 01:36:41,373
Speaker 3: high school. And when I was in high school, my

1853
01:36:41,453 --> 01:36:46,093
Speaker 3: trombone teacher always said trombone is the most diverse in instrument.

1854
01:36:46,173 --> 01:36:50,093
Speaker 3: You can play it in the widest range of bands

1855
01:36:50,133 --> 01:36:52,693
Speaker 3: and playing with the widest range of musical styles. And

1856
01:36:52,693 --> 01:36:55,613
Speaker 3: I always thought, really, I was playing in orchestras and

1857
01:36:55,693 --> 01:36:57,773
Speaker 3: stage bands and jazz bands and that kind of thing.

1858
01:36:57,813 --> 01:37:00,733
Speaker 3: Absolutely love the trombone. But the year after I left

1859
01:37:00,813 --> 01:37:02,693
Speaker 3: high school, Fat Freddies came out and I was like,

1860
01:37:02,893 --> 01:37:05,173
Speaker 3: that's where I should have been playing trombone. I should

1861
01:37:05,173 --> 01:37:08,253
Speaker 3: have been playing trombone and the up group. Anyway, the

1862
01:37:08,293 --> 01:37:10,213
Speaker 3: reason we're playing you Fat Fridyes this morning is because

1863
01:37:10,213 --> 01:37:12,373
Speaker 3: they are one of the many great acts playing an

1864
01:37:12,373 --> 01:37:15,613
Speaker 3: electric av in christ Church Hadley Park this afternoon. Day

1865
01:37:15,613 --> 01:37:19,053
Speaker 3: two will take you there very live, very shortly. Then

1866
01:37:19,093 --> 01:37:23,253
Speaker 3: after mid day, Jason Pine is with us with Weekend Sport,

1867
01:37:23,453 --> 01:37:25,133
Speaker 3: a big weekend of sport in the Big Game this

1868
01:37:25,213 --> 01:37:27,333
Speaker 3: afternoon for your beloved Phoenix Piny.

1869
01:37:27,093 --> 01:37:29,093
Speaker 21: Indeed Colt A Jack. Yeah, look great to be here

1870
01:37:29,093 --> 01:37:31,933
Speaker 21: in Auckland for Darby three point zero this afternoon. Good

1871
01:37:32,013 --> 01:37:35,173
Speaker 21: day in prospect where the wives sell out in coming.

1872
01:37:35,253 --> 01:37:37,933
Speaker 21: They've even i think managed to squeeze some more seats

1873
01:37:37,933 --> 01:37:40,893
Speaker 21: out at at Go Media State in this afternoon.

1874
01:37:40,933 --> 01:37:42,813
Speaker 3: So well they've set up the little bank now the

1875
01:37:42,813 --> 01:37:44,253
Speaker 3: grass Bank, which is fantastic.

1876
01:37:44,573 --> 01:37:46,213
Speaker 21: Yeah, so you can fit some more in there and

1877
01:37:46,253 --> 01:37:49,173
Speaker 21: sell more tickets. Look, we're looking at twenty seven thousand

1878
01:37:49,213 --> 01:37:51,573
Speaker 21: turning up. I mean in your wildest dream, would you've

1879
01:37:51,613 --> 01:37:52,173
Speaker 21: imagined it?

1880
01:37:52,213 --> 01:37:54,493
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, yeah, it's just I mean, it is

1881
01:37:54,533 --> 01:37:57,013
Speaker 3: just amazing to see, you know, to see see football

1882
01:37:57,013 --> 01:37:58,893
Speaker 3: in the A League in New Zealand with this kind

1883
01:37:58,893 --> 01:38:00,973
Speaker 3: of following, and obviously that you know, the ORG and

1884
01:38:01,213 --> 01:38:04,893
Speaker 3: SEV nailed the promotions around the team have nailed the experience.

1885
01:38:04,973 --> 01:38:08,293
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, the the winning hasn't hurt as.

1886
01:38:08,173 --> 01:38:11,573
Speaker 21: Well, absolutely, and you have to congratulate all parts of

1887
01:38:11,613 --> 01:38:13,453
Speaker 21: that football club on and off the field for what

1888
01:38:13,493 --> 01:38:15,413
Speaker 21: they've done. And you're right, it does help when you're winning.

1889
01:38:16,173 --> 01:38:19,093
Speaker 21: But you know, they are very quickly engaged with a

1890
01:38:19,213 --> 01:38:20,733
Speaker 21: huge number of supporters here.

1891
01:38:20,853 --> 01:38:22,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, we get you know, we're trying to

1892
01:38:22,493 --> 01:38:25,653
Speaker 3: build the whole Derby thing into an intense rivalry and

1893
01:38:25,693 --> 01:38:27,173
Speaker 3: all of that. I mean, I've got to say I

1894
01:38:27,213 --> 01:38:28,933
Speaker 3: love the Phoenix still. I mean, I'll be backing all

1895
01:38:29,053 --> 01:38:31,013
Speaker 3: de seat this afternoon, but I absolutely love the Phoenix.

1896
01:38:31,053 --> 01:38:35,493
Speaker 3: I do. And I reckon, I reckon. This could be,

1897
01:38:35,733 --> 01:38:37,733
Speaker 3: this could go against the grain a little bit. Is

1898
01:38:37,773 --> 01:38:39,653
Speaker 3: that crazy for me, madam? I'm just sleept deprived at

1899
01:38:39,653 --> 01:38:41,373
Speaker 3: the moment. Well, I mean that could all. I mean,

1900
01:38:41,413 --> 01:38:45,813
Speaker 3: both things can be true. I get the feeling that

1901
01:38:46,093 --> 01:38:48,813
Speaker 3: it won't quite be the walkover that many would expect.

1902
01:38:48,813 --> 01:38:50,453
Speaker 3: If they, if they, if you dropped in from out

1903
01:38:50,453 --> 01:38:52,093
Speaker 3: of space and saw a team at the top of

1904
01:38:52,133 --> 01:38:54,813
Speaker 3: the league by five points and another time in the numbers,

1905
01:38:54,853 --> 01:38:57,093
Speaker 3: you say, okay, we'll walk second win the game. But

1906
01:38:57,573 --> 01:39:00,893
Speaker 3: the Derby just adds an extra layer. Funny things happen

1907
01:39:00,973 --> 01:39:04,653
Speaker 3: under pressure. You know, some players wilt, some players thrive

1908
01:39:04,693 --> 01:39:08,573
Speaker 3: in the spotlight. You know, moments and micro moments are magnified.

1909
01:39:09,853 --> 01:39:13,093
Speaker 3: It'll be it won't be a one v ten situation.

1910
01:39:13,253 --> 01:39:16,333
Speaker 3: This is an outlier. This is a one off occasion

1911
01:39:16,693 --> 01:39:22,693
Speaker 3: for momentum confidence all irrelevant this afternoon. Crusaders humbled last night.

1912
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Speaker 3: It wasn't like they played terribly against the Chiefs. But

1913
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Speaker 3: Clayton mcnaughan's team look really strong, don't they. Chiefs are good. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Chiefs are good.

1915
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Speaker 21: And he won't get carried away because they were good

1916
01:39:32,653 --> 01:39:35,133
Speaker 21: two years ago and last year made the Grand Final

1917
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Speaker 21: both times, lost both times. Maybe you've got to lose

1918
01:39:37,493 --> 01:39:39,693
Speaker 21: two to win one, Jack, I don't know, but they

1919
01:39:39,973 --> 01:39:42,013
Speaker 21: have never beaten the Crusaders in the entire history of

1920
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Speaker 21: the competition by as Biger margins last night twenty five

1921
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Speaker 21: points and the twenty minutes from about minute fifty to

1922
01:39:48,693 --> 01:39:51,933
Speaker 21: minutes seventeen just talk about putting the foot down and

1923
01:39:51,973 --> 01:39:54,853
Speaker 21: the Chiefs looked every injured team that will go deep again.

1924
01:39:55,013 --> 01:39:57,773
Speaker 21: So yeah, I mean for the Crusaders, obviously they got

1925
01:39:57,773 --> 01:40:00,293
Speaker 21: the win last weekend against the Hurricanes. They'll dust themselves

1926
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Speaker 21: off and get ready to go again. But yeah, Super

1927
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Speaker 21: Rugby continues to deliver under the roof tonight and Duneedan

1928
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Speaker 21: Highland is blue? Is that said to be another breaker?

1929
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll be. What's on the show this We're.

1930
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Speaker 21: Just after midday A Louis Vastrata and Kellen Elliott from

1931
01:40:12,133 --> 01:40:14,213
Speaker 21: what we've seen hopping into the studio for a chat.

1932
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Speaker 3: So we'll do the like I've just said, so good.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, player, what a player he is, Yes, he's he's

1934
01:40:21,973 --> 01:40:24,013
Speaker 21: going to be on to us. We'll talk rugby after

1935
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Speaker 21: one and Zoey Hobbs on the show after two o'clock

1936
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Speaker 21: as well. Looking forward to chatting to our fastest ever

1937
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Speaker 21: woman over one hundred minutes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, superb. Oh, that'll be so good. Looking forward to

1939
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Speaker 3: this afternoon, sir, Thanks Jack. Jason Pine behind the mic

1940
01:40:35,213 --> 01:40:37,613
Speaker 3: with Weekend Sport. He will be with us right after

1941
01:40:37,653 --> 01:40:39,613
Speaker 3: the midday news. Before midday, we're going to take you

1942
01:40:39,653 --> 01:40:42,413
Speaker 3: to Electric ev and christ Church. Your book picks for

1943
01:40:42,453 --> 01:40:44,413
Speaker 3: this weekend. If you're looking forward to a weekend on

1944
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Speaker 3: the Couch Snakes.

1945
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Speaker 1: Saturday Morning with Jack Team fulk Show podcast on iHeartRadio

1946
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Speaker 1: powered by News talks 'b.

1947
01:40:53,253 --> 01:40:55,493
Speaker 3: Twenty three to twelve on News talks, 'd be time

1948
01:40:55,533 --> 01:40:57,573
Speaker 3: to get your book picks for this weekend. We've got

1949
01:40:57,573 --> 01:41:00,893
Speaker 3: two non fiction reads and Katherine Rains our book reviewers

1950
01:41:00,893 --> 01:41:04,453
Speaker 3: here with them for us Killer Katherine. Okay, let's begin

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Speaker 3: with this new book about Jackie Kennedy and now it's

1952
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Speaker 3: called Jackie Public, Private Secret by Jay Randy Tarabelli.

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Speaker 22: So, as you say, there's been a lot of biographies

1954
01:41:15,493 --> 01:41:18,333
Speaker 22: written about Jackie, and this is the product of hundreds

1955
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Speaker 22: of interviews that a timporarly conducted over thirty years, as

1956
01:41:22,053 --> 01:41:25,093
Speaker 22: well as previously unresd material from the JFK library. And

1957
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Speaker 22: so you get this really interesting perspective of her quite personal,

1958
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Speaker 22: behind the scenes and not a bogger of biography that

1959
01:41:31,773 --> 01:41:34,373
Speaker 22: really reviews world events from her perspective, but it all

1960
01:41:34,453 --> 01:41:37,493
Speaker 22: studies the Kennedy presidency or those kind of things. But

1961
01:41:38,053 --> 01:41:41,133
Speaker 22: you get this portrait of what feels like the more

1962
01:41:41,133 --> 01:41:43,933
Speaker 22: elusive Jackie Kennedy and assis and her relationships with her

1963
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Speaker 22: parents and siblings and step siblings and friends and colleagues

1964
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Speaker 22: and all sorts of people. And it isn't told chronologically,

1965
01:41:50,453 --> 01:41:53,093
Speaker 22: but it's interconnected and you get these moments, and so

1966
01:41:53,173 --> 01:41:56,133
Speaker 22: this picture of Jackie in her life builds up like

1967
01:41:56,253 --> 01:41:58,653
Speaker 22: that insights to her relationship with her father and her

1968
01:41:58,733 --> 01:42:02,453
Speaker 22: very overbearing mother, and her relationship with her stepfather, and

1969
01:42:02,493 --> 01:42:05,733
Speaker 22: there's this always this undercurrent of tension and competition with

1970
01:42:05,773 --> 01:42:08,533
Speaker 22: her sister Lie and you know, talks about her marriage

1971
01:42:08,533 --> 01:42:12,213
Speaker 22: to JFK and his assassination and her marriage to Aristola Analysis,

1972
01:42:12,413 --> 01:42:15,373
Speaker 22: but also about her projects and her issues with feeling

1973
01:42:15,413 --> 01:42:18,213
Speaker 22: safe and secure and how she rebuilt her life and

1974
01:42:18,253 --> 01:42:21,213
Speaker 22: the publishing world and her editorial work and her relationships,

1975
01:42:21,213 --> 01:42:23,533
Speaker 22: and then with her cancer diagnosis and the events and

1976
01:42:23,573 --> 01:42:27,253
Speaker 22: her family. And she shows her as this very stubborn

1977
01:42:27,293 --> 01:42:30,093
Speaker 22: and elitis woman, but also very kind and caring and

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01:42:30,133 --> 01:42:32,653
Speaker 22: focused in her approach to life. And so it's not

1979
01:42:32,773 --> 01:42:36,373
Speaker 22: this scholarly intellectual biography of her, but an interesting read

1980
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Speaker 22: about her life all the same.

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Speaker 3: Nice. Okay, that's Jackie Public Private Secret by Jay Randy

1982
01:42:42,333 --> 01:42:45,053
Speaker 3: Tara Barelli. That's a great name, isn't it, Jay Randy.

1983
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Speaker 3: Next up tell us about the Let Them Theory by

1984
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Speaker 3: Mel Robbins.

1985
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Speaker 22: So I'm not usually a particularly massive self help book reader,

1986
01:42:56,213 --> 01:42:59,573
Speaker 22: but this one kept appearing everywhere I looked. And the

1987
01:42:59,613 --> 01:43:02,693
Speaker 22: start of this book talks about Mel Robinson. It focuses

1988
01:43:02,733 --> 01:43:05,013
Speaker 22: on her and how she ended up in that self

1989
01:43:05,013 --> 01:43:07,453
Speaker 22: help space in her podcast. And she was raised in

1990
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Speaker 22: Michigan and attended doubt Mouth and went to Boston College

1991
01:43:11,213 --> 01:43:14,853
Speaker 22: for law, and she worked practicing law and it's thirty one.

1992
01:43:14,933 --> 01:43:17,213
Speaker 22: She decided that she hated that, and she hired a

1993
01:43:17,253 --> 01:43:18,853
Speaker 22: life coach who actually told her that she'd make a

1994
01:43:18,933 --> 01:43:22,493
Speaker 22: good life coach. But actually the story kind of skips

1995
01:43:22,853 --> 01:43:24,733
Speaker 22: a little bit further and in her late thirties and

1996
01:43:24,773 --> 01:43:26,933
Speaker 22: she's pregnant with her third child and her husband, Chris,

1997
01:43:27,013 --> 01:43:28,773
Speaker 22: is laid off from his tech job, and he starts

1998
01:43:28,813 --> 01:43:31,533
Speaker 22: this pizza restaurant chain, which fails, and they go into

1999
01:43:31,533 --> 01:43:34,933
Speaker 22: this complete financial free form, and she begins drinking heavily

2000
01:43:35,013 --> 01:43:37,973
Speaker 22: and taking medication, and at forty seven becomes a real

2001
01:43:38,013 --> 01:43:40,733
Speaker 22: turning point for her. She receives a diagnosis of ADHD

2002
01:43:40,813 --> 01:43:43,493
Speaker 22: and dyslexia, and this is how she kind of ends

2003
01:43:43,573 --> 01:43:46,293
Speaker 22: up in this space. And the let Them theory focuses

2004
01:43:46,333 --> 01:43:49,333
Speaker 22: on how you think about relationships and control and your

2005
01:43:49,373 --> 01:43:52,733
Speaker 22: own personal perspective on things and how you want to

2006
01:43:52,733 --> 01:43:56,213
Speaker 22: advance things. It's the first half of it is about

2007
01:43:56,813 --> 01:43:59,293
Speaker 22: not trying to manage other people, and in the second

2008
01:43:59,373 --> 01:44:02,213
Speaker 22: half she turns to this other concept from them to

2009
01:44:02,293 --> 01:44:05,053
Speaker 22: let me and realizing that you cannot take control and

2010
01:44:05,093 --> 01:44:06,893
Speaker 22: you take responsibility for.

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Speaker 9: What happens next.

2012
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Speaker 22: And it's one of those self help books that either

2013
01:44:09,333 --> 01:44:12,253
Speaker 22: resonates with you, or it doesn't. It doesn't have massively

2014
01:44:12,293 --> 01:44:15,973
Speaker 22: earth shattering new information, but good reminder about real life

2015
01:44:16,053 --> 01:44:18,973
Speaker 22: challenges and insights on how to navigate change and the

2016
01:44:19,053 --> 01:44:21,813
Speaker 22: need for control, and reminds us that we're actually responsible

2017
01:44:21,853 --> 01:44:24,973
Speaker 22: for our own success and failures and our happiness and sadness.

2018
01:44:24,973 --> 01:44:27,533
Speaker 22: And you can't control other people's thoughts and feelings, but

2019
01:44:27,613 --> 01:44:28,013
Speaker 22: you can.

2020
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Speaker 11: Control your own.

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Speaker 22: And so, yeah, I found a very interesting perspective on

2022
01:44:31,333 --> 01:44:32,253
Speaker 22: what she talks about.

2023
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Speaker 3: That's good. That brought you around to self help books.

2024
01:44:34,973 --> 01:44:35,853
Speaker 3: Maybe or a few more.

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Speaker 22: I don't know then I quite go that far, but

2026
01:44:38,453 --> 01:44:39,933
Speaker 22: I did find this, and I listened to a couple

2027
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Speaker 22: of her podcasts and things and the things she talks

2028
01:44:41,573 --> 01:44:42,613
Speaker 22: to that's really interesting.

2029
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Speaker 3: Oh nice, we're not going to catch you reading ten

2030
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Speaker 3: Keys to Management success or something. Probably not. No, no,

2031
01:44:49,813 --> 01:44:52,133
Speaker 3: fair enough, No, it sounds good, it does. It sounds

2032
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Speaker 3: really interesting. Thank you, Kasin. So that's the let Them

2033
01:44:54,773 --> 01:44:57,333
Speaker 3: Theory by Mel Robbins and Catherine's first book, the one

2034
01:44:57,333 --> 01:45:02,253
Speaker 3: about Jackie Kennedy and Nassas, is called Jackie Public Private Secret.

2035
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Speaker 3: We'll put both of those books up on the website,

2036
01:45:05,573 --> 01:45:08,053
Speaker 3: and if you're looking for anything from our show. Honestly,

2037
01:45:08,253 --> 01:45:09,613
Speaker 3: the easiest thing to do is just to go to

2038
01:45:09,693 --> 01:45:13,373
Speaker 3: the website Newstalks EDB dot co dot nz Forward slash

2039
01:45:13,533 --> 01:45:16,093
Speaker 3: Jack That takes you straight through to our show page

2040
01:45:16,413 --> 01:45:18,613
Speaker 3: and just as soon as we've mentioned anything on the radio,

2041
01:45:18,893 --> 01:45:20,733
Speaker 3: the online team make sure where they go and put

2042
01:45:20,733 --> 01:45:23,053
Speaker 3: all the details for stuff up on the website so

2043
01:45:23,093 --> 01:45:26,813
Speaker 3: you can get Catherine's book picks, our film reviews, TV shows,

2044
01:45:26,853 --> 01:45:29,613
Speaker 3: from our screen time segment recipes, all that good stuff.

2045
01:45:29,733 --> 01:45:32,933
Speaker 3: It goes up on the website. Eighteen to twelve. You're Jacktame.

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Speaker 3: This is Newstalk's EDB.

2047
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Speaker 1: Giving you the inside scoop on all you need to

2048
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2049
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Speaker 1: For high quality supplements, use talks EDB, Running.

2050
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Speaker 3: Right here in part of the Sun and Walking on

2051
01:46:14,893 --> 01:46:17,853
Speaker 3: a Dream. They were one of the day one acts

2052
01:46:18,733 --> 01:46:24,013
Speaker 3: at Electric Avenue in christ Church. Hagley Park plays host

2053
01:46:24,093 --> 01:46:26,213
Speaker 3: now to the biggest two day festival in all of

2054
01:46:26,253 --> 01:46:29,813
Speaker 3: Australasia and Chris Schultz has the very difficult gig of

2055
01:46:29,893 --> 01:46:32,533
Speaker 3: going along to Electric. I have thirty thousand steps on

2056
01:46:32,653 --> 01:46:35,453
Speaker 3: day one Chris, that's very impressive. How are you feeling.

2057
01:46:36,693 --> 01:46:39,773
Speaker 23: Like I've been hit by a bus jack. I was

2058
01:46:39,853 --> 01:46:44,453
Speaker 23: not prepared for what I went through yesterday. I thought

2059
01:46:44,453 --> 01:46:47,013
Speaker 23: i'd stretched enough, I thought i'd drunk enough. I got

2060
01:46:47,053 --> 01:46:50,733
Speaker 23: plenty of sleep, but nothing really prepares you for like

2061
01:46:51,053 --> 01:46:53,773
Speaker 23: just a full festival day, you know, like running around

2062
01:46:53,773 --> 01:46:57,933
Speaker 23: a massive site like that. Hagley Park is huge. It's

2063
01:46:57,973 --> 01:47:01,573
Speaker 23: a really big place. They've got five stages set up

2064
01:47:01,653 --> 01:47:04,133
Speaker 23: in there, and yeah, I honestly don't think I've been

2065
01:47:04,133 --> 01:47:06,933
Speaker 23: to a festival of that scale since the days I

2066
01:47:07,013 --> 01:47:08,213
Speaker 23: used to go to Coachella.

2067
01:47:08,413 --> 01:47:09,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, those kind of.

2068
01:47:09,413 --> 01:47:14,053
Speaker 23: Big overseas events. It really is something. The city is

2069
01:47:14,733 --> 01:47:18,773
Speaker 23: maxed out. You can't get accommodation. There's cues for food

2070
01:47:19,053 --> 01:47:20,933
Speaker 23: places all over time. You can barely get a flat

2071
01:47:20,933 --> 01:47:24,013
Speaker 23: white at the moment. It's that busy down here.

2072
01:47:24,093 --> 01:47:26,453
Speaker 3: Oh it's great. I mean, christ is just thriving at

2073
01:47:26,453 --> 01:47:28,573
Speaker 3: the moment, so you just love to see it. You

2074
01:47:28,693 --> 01:47:31,893
Speaker 3: got five stages at Electric gave teens of thousands of attends.

2075
01:47:31,973 --> 01:47:35,333
Speaker 3: Talk us through your experience of day one.

2076
01:47:36,453 --> 01:47:39,693
Speaker 23: Just pumping from the moment I got there. This is

2077
01:47:39,733 --> 01:47:43,053
Speaker 23: thirty six thousand people on the site, So you're just

2078
01:47:43,133 --> 01:47:45,893
Speaker 23: kind of running around trying to like not get that

2079
01:47:45,933 --> 01:47:49,373
Speaker 23: feeling of fomo. You know, you want to catch everything

2080
01:47:49,973 --> 01:47:51,573
Speaker 23: you want to see, so you know, I saw a

2081
01:47:51,653 --> 01:47:54,693
Speaker 23: shape shifter playing with the christ Church Symphony Orchestra. They

2082
01:47:54,693 --> 01:47:59,373
Speaker 23: sounded meaty and grunty, local lads in the hangar. Actually,

2083
01:47:59,413 --> 01:48:02,093
Speaker 23: the biggest moment for me came in the evening, and

2084
01:48:02,373 --> 01:48:04,293
Speaker 23: for a lot of people it came.

2085
01:48:04,133 --> 01:48:04,853
Speaker 3: With The Dudes.

2086
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Speaker 23: Now, the Dudes are a band that nearly fifty. They

2087
01:48:07,733 --> 01:48:09,933
Speaker 23: turned fifty in a couple of years and their big

2088
01:48:09,973 --> 01:48:14,253
Speaker 23: anthem is Bless that's about forty five years old. I

2089
01:48:14,333 --> 01:48:18,053
Speaker 23: did not expect to see probably about twenty thousand people

2090
01:48:18,253 --> 01:48:22,053
Speaker 23: crammed into a stage area to see them hanging off

2091
01:48:22,053 --> 01:48:26,013
Speaker 23: their every word, going completely and utterly ballistic. It was

2092
01:48:26,053 --> 01:48:27,933
Speaker 23: just one of those kind of special moments where the

2093
01:48:27,973 --> 01:48:30,293
Speaker 23: sun was going down. I guess everyone had had a

2094
01:48:30,293 --> 01:48:33,973
Speaker 23: couple of drinks, so Bliss felt like the right song

2095
01:48:34,013 --> 01:48:36,653
Speaker 23: to plan that moment. But Peter Rulich could have not

2096
01:48:36,853 --> 01:48:39,893
Speaker 23: even believe it. He was sort of grinning on stage

2097
01:48:39,893 --> 01:48:41,653
Speaker 23: and at one point I think he said something like

2098
01:48:42,093 --> 01:48:46,293
Speaker 23: this feels Shakespearean because you know, it was just so ridiculous.

2099
01:48:46,333 --> 01:48:49,893
Speaker 23: He's a band, you know, at the age they are,

2100
01:48:50,373 --> 01:48:52,613
Speaker 23: with the career they've had, suddenly having this.

2101
01:48:52,853 --> 01:48:57,973
Speaker 7: Maybe possibly the biggest moment they've ever had. Yeah.

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Speaker 23: Electric, Electric is a great word for it.

2103
01:49:01,213 --> 01:49:01,413
Speaker 19: You know.

2104
01:49:01,453 --> 01:49:04,773
Speaker 23: It was a really well planned day that sort of

2105
01:49:04,773 --> 01:49:07,613
Speaker 23: started with a bit of reggae, but then they moved

2106
01:49:07,653 --> 01:49:11,413
Speaker 23: into some of the more summary acts. Tash Sultana as

2107
01:49:11,453 --> 01:49:15,773
Speaker 23: an Australian busker who plays all her own instruments on stage.

2108
01:49:16,613 --> 01:49:18,453
Speaker 23: She just kind of runs around doing the guitar and

2109
01:49:18,453 --> 01:49:22,333
Speaker 23: the drums and was really well timed for a sort

2110
01:49:22,373 --> 01:49:25,333
Speaker 23: of late afternoon set, and then it sort of moved

2111
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Speaker 23: into the more dancing acts for the evening that the

2112
01:49:27,853 --> 01:49:31,573
Speaker 23: drum and bass headliners Chasing Status put on a the

2113
01:49:31,653 --> 01:49:36,893
Speaker 23: kind of pounding, huge firework display that you'd expect at

2114
01:49:36,893 --> 01:49:39,173
Speaker 23: a festival of this scale. You know, you need someone

2115
01:49:39,213 --> 01:49:40,773
Speaker 23: to close it out like that, and they did a

2116
01:49:40,773 --> 01:49:41,493
Speaker 23: really good job at all.

2117
01:49:41,613 --> 01:49:44,653
Speaker 3: Yeah, and some amazing acts playing today. So you've got

2118
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Speaker 3: the Prodigy top of the list, But run us through

2119
01:49:47,533 --> 01:49:48,853
Speaker 3: what you're looking forward to today.

2120
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Speaker 23: Well, the Prodigy of the Big One. They were last

2121
01:49:51,573 --> 01:49:54,213
Speaker 23: here in twenty nineteen and I saw them in Auckland

2122
01:49:54,373 --> 01:49:56,653
Speaker 23: and that was the last show with Keith Flint. He

2123
01:49:56,733 --> 01:49:59,453
Speaker 23: died just a couple of months later, so that is

2124
01:49:59,493 --> 01:50:01,933
Speaker 23: going to be a special one. Apparently they do pay

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Speaker 23: tribute to him during a show, and the shows aras

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Speaker 23: Full On and Electric A, The Fat Freddy's in Lady six.

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Speaker 23: I think the local acts on my must see list today.

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Speaker 23: They're always great, especially in a festival atmosphere. I'm also

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Speaker 23: looking forward to seeing DJ Shadow. He's he made introducing

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Speaker 23: one of the great vinyl hip hop instrumental albums of

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Speaker 23: all time, and he always puts on a great show

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Speaker 23: with a really good visual display too, so he's definitely

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Speaker 23: on my list.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Nice, and I mean it's going to be massive today,

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Speaker 3: even bigger than yesterday, presumably given give us some of

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Speaker 3: the acts that are playing today. Yeah, are you going

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Speaker 3: to do thirty thousand steps?

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Speaker 11: Do you think.

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Speaker 23: I'm going to rest up? Well, I've got a couple

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Speaker 23: of hours before this thing's kicks off. I'm gonna put

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Speaker 23: my feet up, I'm gonna have some lunch and shell

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Speaker 23: and yeah, there are scooters. I'm going to try and

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Speaker 23: get around with scooters. I got an Ober the other

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Speaker 23: day and the guy said it's his busiest day of

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Speaker 23: the year Electric Avenue. Oh yeah, and it's almost impossible

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Speaker 23: to get a taxi or an ober. But they've got

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Speaker 23: these scooters around the so I think I'm going to

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Speaker 23: log and download the AP for one of those and

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Speaker 23: try and get around using that.

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Speaker 3: I think that's wise, Yeah, very wise. I always remember

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Speaker 3: my sister went to a big festival a couple of

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Speaker 3: years ago, and she was really looking forward to the

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Speaker 3: festival and to celebrate and to get ready for festival seasons.

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Speaker 3: She brought herself a brand new pair of Doc Martins.

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Speaker 3: And if there are any shoes you were going to

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Speaker 3: choose to wear to a festival where you're going to

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Speaker 3: be spending fourteen hours on your feet, I can tell

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Speaker 3: you right now that Doc Martins are not a good choice,

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Speaker 3: so long as you've got something a little bit more comfortable.

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Speaker 23: There were a lot of Doc Martins yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Well, if they're warning, it's not so bad. But if

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Speaker 3: there are a new pair of Doc Martins and the

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Speaker 3: leather is still a bit firm, yeah, not so much.

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Speaker 3: You'll be tending to those blisters and wounds for months afterwards.

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Speaker 5: I reckon absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, look a joy today, Chris really appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: You give us a call and yeah, we'll all be

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Speaker 3: enviously thinking of you and looking forward to hearing about

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Speaker 3: all the performances today, including the Prodigy Tonight Schultz in

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Speaker 3: christ Church for Electric av twenty twenty five, Australasia's biggest

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Speaker 3: two day festival. We'll pick one of those acts. How

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Speaker 3: about Crungbin. Crungbin playing today. They're friends of the show

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Speaker 3: We interviewed Crungbin, so they're playing today in christ Church.

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Speaker 3: We'll pick one of their tracks and play out in

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Speaker 3: a couple of minutes. Right now, it's nine to twelve

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Speaker 3: on news Talks.

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Speaker 1: Edb A cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday mornings

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Speaker 3: I've got a bit of a decision on my hands

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Speaker 3: this afternoon, so I have season tickets to talk and

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Speaker 3: DEFC got on the badwagon nice and early. Me and

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Speaker 3: roumy our boy have been going along to all the games.

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Speaker 3: He's been absolutely loving it so far. But I don't know.

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Speaker 3: When our baby sons just five days old, do I

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Speaker 3: really want to be spending another couple of hours away

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Speaker 3: from home? It's a tough one. I think. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I'll say to my wife this afternoon, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's in the we want to make sure that our

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Speaker 3: elder boy feels like he's included, feels like he's getting

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Speaker 3: plenty of attention.

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Speaker 14: You know.

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Speaker 3: It's a bit of a tough transition. Maybe it's an

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Speaker 3: a interest for me to take them along to the

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Speaker 3: game this afternoon. I can try that. We'll see how

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Speaker 3: we go. Anyway. Thank you so much for all of

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Speaker 3: your lovely messages all throughout the morning and congratulations. I

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Speaker 3: really do appreciate it, and I'm sure I'll be boring

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Speaker 3: you with lots of baby spam and you know, updates

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Speaker 3: over the next few weeks and months as I go

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Speaker 3: Thanks to my wonderful producer Libby for doing the tough

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Speaker 3: stuff for all the buttons and dials throughout the morning.

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Speaker 3: Jason Pine is going to count you down to the

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Speaker 3: Phoenix afc Kee Wee Dhabi in the A League this

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Speaker 3: afternoon when he kicks off weekend sport right after the

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Speaker 3: midday news. We're going to leave you though, with one

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Speaker 3: of the bands playing an Electric Avenue and christ Church

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Speaker 3: this afternoon. The band is crumbin this song as people everywhere.

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Speaker 3: I will see you next week.

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