1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: Ay, good afternoon. Only one day to go in the 2 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: US election campaign, and both Karmala Harris and Donald Trump 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: are holding their final rallies right now at Kamala Harris's 4 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: rally for US as The Herald's deputy political editor, Thomas 5 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: Coglan Thomas, Hello, hello head, Oh mate, it's awfully quiet. 6 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: Is she not turned up yet? 7 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 2: Tell you what, it's a funny old event, this one. 8 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 2: So the Democrats are holding these massive rallies in various 9 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 2: swing states. It's a bit like Live Aid, that big 10 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: thing they did in the eighties for the raising money 11 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 2: for Africa. So Kamala Harris started off at the Philadelphia 12 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: I'm sorry that the Pittsburgh one. She was there maybe 13 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: two hours ago. And she is somewhere between Pittsburgh and Philadelphia, 14 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: which is where I am, which is where her last 15 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 2: address we made. But yeah, you're right, she has not 16 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: shown up yet. The crowd is getting a bit restless. 17 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: Lady Gaga is meant to come on and entertain us, 18 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: but she has showed up yet either. So yeah, it's 19 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: a wedding game, perhaps a harbinger of things to come. 20 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: Lord, you mean the election result, I'd imagine Apparently the 21 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: Democrats have been nauseously optimistic for a few days now, 22 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:07,279 Speaker 1: Is that what you're hearing? 23 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I mean they're doing their best to put 24 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 2: on a brave face. Kamala Harris is saying we're going 25 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 2: to win this everywhere that she can say that. But 26 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 2: but look of those those poles are tied. I mean, 27 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: the poles are not moving very much. But where they 28 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: are moving, they seem to be narrowing for Trump. So 29 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 2: his chance is certainly looking pretty good. But but but 30 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 2: to be fair, so hers. It's really a coin toss. 31 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 2: So I mean, to be honestly that no one knows 32 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 2: it's It could go anyway, and and the Poles could 33 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 2: be wrong. That they could be all wrong in the 34 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 2: wrong in the same direction. They could be wrong in 35 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 2: different directions in different states. It really is anyone's game, okay. 36 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: And how the how the Republicans feeling? Are they confident 37 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: or panicking? 38 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 2: No? 39 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 3: I think that confident as well. 40 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: And now you know that they're they're gearing up to 41 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 2: fight this in court of lyp and obviously you know 42 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 2: in Florida in two thousand they successfully have managed to 43 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 2: get a you know, the White House after after the 44 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: I think by five hundred votes in Florida when the 45 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 2: when they're hanging chips were litigated. So so you know 46 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 2: that the Republicans are gearing up for that fight and 47 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: if the ps are the Democrats as well. 48 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 3: I think there's something like three thousand different counties in 49 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 3: the United States, and each one of them counts the 50 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 3: votes in their own way, and so you can actually 51 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 3: you can actually expect to see many of those counties 52 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 3: are having having, you know, questions raised about the way 53 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 3: that that the voter is conductive. So so you know, 54 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 3: I think the Republicans are looking at that as well 55 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 3: as simply winning. 56 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: Now, now, Thomas, you mentioned before that this could be 57 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 1: a sign of things to come, the waiting game, right, 58 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: and I see Pennsylvania's Secretary General has already warned that 59 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: the state will not have a result tomorrow night. However, 60 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: this isn't on the assumption that everything is tight. If 61 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: it actually all of a sudden goes one way or 62 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: the other, will we have a result tomorrow, Like if 63 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: it's a clear win for Trump or a clear win 64 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: for Karmela, will we know tomorrow. 65 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 2: Yes, that is that that is a potential outcome, and 66 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 2: there is actually like there's not a bad probability of that. 67 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: Often when polls are wrong, they are often wrong in 68 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: the same direction. There are seven swing states, and if 69 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 2: all the poles are in the swing states, which are 70 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: currently basically tied, you know, if they're all wrong and 71 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 2: Trump is clearly winning and most of them, or if 72 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: they're all wrong and Harris is leaveing winning in most 73 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 2: of them, then we might actually not need Pennsylvania. And 74 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: so in that case you probably would have a result, 75 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 2: a pretty clear result tomorrow. But you know, at the moment, 76 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: it looks like all the races and all the swing 77 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 2: states will be so close that that tomorrow night will 78 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: be farly inconclusive. 79 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, Thomas, isn't best of luck waiting for her? 80 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: That's Thomas Colin and thank you, of course, the Herald's 81 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: deputy political editor in Pennsylvania. For us. 82 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 3: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 83 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 3: news talks. 84 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast 85 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio.